Speaker 1: I miss a green, for example, I'm already upset.
Speaker 2: When I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset.
Speaker 2: And when I find my ball.
Speaker 1: In a Frida Egg Friday egg, the dreaded Friday Friday
Speaker 1: fridagg Frida Egg Bride Egg, Lie, I'm about ready to
Speaker 1: run off of the Welcome back to another edition of
Speaker 1: the Frida Egg Golf Podcast. I am your host, Andy Johnson,
Speaker 1: and another major championship is upon us. It is the
Speaker 1: PGA Championship week. Uh. We are gonna be heading to Valhalla.
Speaker 1: I'm actually not gonna be head into Valhalla, but the
Speaker 1: world of professional golf is heading to Valhalla. Kyle Porter,
Speaker 1: You're not heading to Valhalla, but we're gonna go there
Speaker 1: in our minds today, get ready for the PGA Championship
Speaker 1: with our typical five Things preview Kyle Porter of CBS
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Speaker 1: well worth your subscription. And you know, my favorite thing
Speaker 1: about having a free newsletter is telling people if they
Speaker 1: don't like it, I'll refund them. But Kyle, welcome on
Speaker 1: and thank you for joining me and chatting about the
Speaker 1: PGA Championship. Are you ready for the second major of
Speaker 1: the year.
Speaker 2: I am. I actually am going to Valhalla, but I'm
Speaker 2: going I'm going a little bit later. I'm going I
Speaker 2: won't be there until Wednesday week of so just later
Speaker 2: than the normal. I'm doing great. I'm very excited about
Speaker 2: the second major of the year. I feel bad for
Speaker 2: you because you had for your first five things about
Speaker 2: the majors this year, a Master's champion, a former PGA
Speaker 2: Tour winner, and now you have to deal with me
Speaker 2: for the second one. So I apologize for that.
Speaker 1: Well, listen, I'm going for variety, different for you know,
Speaker 1: people that excel at different things. You know, we could,
Speaker 1: we could have a little bit more fun than than
Speaker 1: the lead analysts that CBS can have on the pod.
Speaker 2: You know, you're that's true. You're trying to You're trying
Speaker 2: to make the variance between the handicaps of people that
Speaker 2: you're having on as wide as as as humanly possible.
Speaker 1: Well, I always enjoy our conversations. I don't for you know,
Speaker 1: you know, there's this noomaclas, this uh, this belief that
Speaker 1: you have to be so accomplished to talk about any sport.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think that's necessarily a true statement.
Speaker 1: I think that no matter what your skill level on
Speaker 1: the golf course, you know, it's it's fair if you
Speaker 1: put the work in. And I think you know, one
Speaker 1: of the things I respect about you, Kyle, is you
Speaker 1: put in so much work in terms of preparation, research,
Speaker 1: and you know, like I always like seeing your tweets.
Speaker 1: I'm like, God, he's grinding on this stuff. So I
Speaker 1: think if you, if you are a professional, which I
Speaker 1: would say that you are very much a professional, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, in terms of a golf media personality, then
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter how you play golf, it actually probably
Speaker 1: helps you if you If you uh, if you aren't
Speaker 1: as good, sometimes you think about things differently.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I appreciate that. I think I think it
Speaker 2: does help to be to come from outside of that
Speaker 2: sort of world. It gives you a different viewpoint. I think,
Speaker 2: what do you think about when we'll get into the
Speaker 2: I know the five things here real quick, But what
Speaker 2: do you think about when players, whether it's golfers or
Speaker 2: you see this. I feel like in basketball and football
Speaker 2: a lot where players complain about what media sometimes say
Speaker 2: or write about them. They're like, oh, well, you never
Speaker 2: you never did this, you never played you don't understand
Speaker 2: like what do you have you noticed that? And like
Speaker 2: what do you think about that?
Speaker 1: I do think there is some of that in golf.
Speaker 1: I you know, I think like we're seeing a buddy
Speaker 1: of mine that I used to play pick up basketball
Speaker 1: with just wrote this book about out D three basketball
Speaker 1: players who are are basically like running the NBA. There's
Speaker 1: like a way was this a thread, Ben Catherine, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Ben Cathlin, that was amazing. Yeah, But so he wrote
Speaker 1: this book and it's like all about D three basketball
Speaker 1: players that are now like there's this like huge amount
Speaker 1: of people that are running the game of basketball that
Speaker 1: didn't play professional basketball. And I think there's an aspect
Speaker 1: of when you listen, like in golf, you're never going
Speaker 1: to understand what it feels like to have a putt
Speaker 1: for three million dollars or you know, a major championship.
Speaker 1: But when you're short on skill, you know what that
Speaker 1: usually usually makes people do. It makes them think work
Speaker 1: harder and think more about how they can get somewhere right. Like,
Speaker 1: So I think that's the flip side of that argument
Speaker 1: where you need to have felt that well, like you
Speaker 1: probably haven't thought about the sport as much as somebody
Speaker 1: who played D three golf who was always wondering why
Speaker 1: they weren't as good as you know, the phenom, and
Speaker 1: because for the phenom, it's it's kind of like simple.
Speaker 1: It's like what what DJ says about fades. It's like
Speaker 1: you want to fade it. Make sure you fade it,
Speaker 1: you know. For for someone not as skilled, they have
Speaker 1: to really think about like the technical aspects of how
Speaker 1: they're trying to hit a fade. They can't just naturally
Speaker 1: do it. So I think there is like a I
Speaker 1: think we're seeing it in across sports is that you know,
Speaker 1: being a great player doesn't mean that you're a great
Speaker 1: executive or a great analyst or a great mind. And
Speaker 1: I think, you know, we're seeing it come. I mean, like, no,
Speaker 1: laying Up's doing the simulcast this week. That's I think
Speaker 1: that's a huge step for.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the thing that gets lost sometimes in
Speaker 2: a lot of like not just golf, but basketball or
Speaker 2: baseball or whatever, is those of us who are talking
Speaker 2: or writing or thinking about the game for a living,
Speaker 2: we're obviously not comparing you to uh, Like we're not
Speaker 2: comparing I'm not comparing uh been like uh let's say,
Speaker 2: let's just say Ben Griffin. Yeah, I'm not comparing his
Speaker 2: game to mine, like obviously he's like five standard deviations
Speaker 2: better than I am at golf, I'm comparing you to
Speaker 2: Rory and more Cowa and Brooks, right, because that's like
Speaker 2: I'm talking about this subset of of of people, not
Speaker 2: like I think sometimes as analysts, and this happens on
Speaker 2: TV a lot, you're like, like analysts or or broadcasters say, oh,
Speaker 2: these guys are all so good. It's like we have
Speaker 2: obviously like compared to you and I, they're unbelievable. But
Speaker 2: that's not the game that we're playing. We're comparing them
Speaker 2: to each other. And I think when you when you
Speaker 2: look at it through that context and through that lens,
Speaker 2: as long as you're fair and you're backing up. I
Speaker 2: was talking to a caddy one time. It was like, hey, Brandle,
Speaker 2: you know what, he says some crazy stuff sometimes, but
Speaker 2: he also does a ton of research and I kind
Speaker 2: of respect that. Like I I I think, as long
Speaker 2: as you're fair and you're and people understand you're comparing players,
Speaker 2: whether it's in the NBA or golf to each other,
Speaker 2: I just I don't buy into the whole way. You
Speaker 2: you've never been in this position. It's like, yeah, of
Speaker 2: course that's why I'm sitting here writing about it instead
Speaker 2: of playing. I uh yeah, exactly. I mean, like nobody
Speaker 2: would choose to be writing or talking about a sport
Speaker 2: versus being the athlete and the arena doing it right.
Speaker 2: So there's always and that's what happens with the retired players.
Speaker 2: I think like there's always that there's kind of that
Speaker 2: friction between you know, like the friction with Shack and
Speaker 2: what Charles Barkley, how they just let it, let it fly.
Speaker 1: In the modern players, you know, like just say I
Speaker 1: mean they just they just let it go. But it's
Speaker 1: like there are different areas like of their lives, right,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I want to be clear though I
Speaker 1: said this. I met just said a tweet out about this.
Speaker 1: I think you're the you're the ultimate member guest partner. Nope,
Speaker 1: I've never played with the player of your skill level
Speaker 1: that has the sheer power and the explosiveness that you have.
Speaker 1: I mean, if if you're if you're an uncapped member
Speaker 1: guest situation where you don't have the handicapped just uh discrepancy,
Speaker 1: you want to win bring Kyle Porter because you're got
Speaker 1: you got a guy that's got three thirty in the back.
Speaker 1: We we uh, we can put my address in the
Speaker 1: in the in the show show people people can send
Speaker 1: me their their club and I'm well, ope will travel,
Speaker 1: I will.
Speaker 2: Will get an RV. We'll just take the family on
Speaker 2: the country and just hit hit up some clubs this summer.
Speaker 1: That would actually be a great book idea. It's like
Speaker 1: I hit the member guest circuit with my entire family
Speaker 1: in an RV and I played all these all these
Speaker 1: you know, all these different clubs memver guests.
Speaker 2: That'd be amazing. Yeah, that would be insane. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm very very available.
Speaker 1: All right. That's that's you know what the PGAF l
Speaker 1: Halla gets. It gets an intro in about you know,
Speaker 1: golf media and everything. Just a couple of housekeepings. The
Speaker 1: last hosted twenty fourteen. Obviously, that was Rory's last major.
Speaker 1: Rory beats Phil Ricky, Hendrik Stenson's on that leader board.
Speaker 1: Other major championships it's hosted. It hosted the ninety six
Speaker 1: PGA Mark Brooks beat Kenny Perry, the infamous two thousand
Speaker 1: PGA where Tiger and Bob May had their Showdown duel,
Speaker 1: one of the most memorable tournaments in I mean forever,
Speaker 1: that iconic moments. So golf course wise, not a ton
Speaker 1: to be excited about. But we've seen this with the
Speaker 1: PGA countless times. You know, golf course, you know, can
Speaker 1: certainly help lift a championship, but is not dependent on
Speaker 1: a championship. So, Kyle, we're doing our five things about
Speaker 1: the PGA. What is your first thing or anything. It
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be an order. None of mine are
Speaker 1: in order. I got about seven or eight written down.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna riff off yours here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got I've got six written down. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: start actually with uh, I'm gonna start with the Live Boys,
Speaker 2: all right, and this is one of mine. I think
Speaker 2: that you know, we're at an interesting This shouldn't be
Speaker 2: that big of a deal because I think the PGA
Speaker 2: of America has done a good job of putting a
Speaker 2: good field together. I think one thing that gets lost.
Speaker 2: I was talking about this with somebody the other day.
Speaker 2: A lot of these guys that got invited got these
Speaker 2: special exemptions from the PJA of America into the event
Speaker 2: that are on live. They were in the tournament last
Speaker 2: year too, and you could argue, like, well they still
Speaker 2: had they were still top hundred and OWGR back then.
Speaker 2: It's like, well, yeah, but they were also like Taylor
Speaker 2: Gooch got into the field, got an exempt, got invited
Speaker 2: into the field last year, just like he did this year.
Speaker 2: So I don't know that it's this grand statement by
Speaker 2: the PGA of America, but I do think because of
Speaker 2: what Gooch has sort of said, there's this weird spotlight
Speaker 2: on the sort of middle to lower tier of live player,
Speaker 2: the guys that aren't Brooks and Rom and Cam Smith,
Speaker 2: who have all played well at this tournament in the
Speaker 2: past couple of years. There's a spotlight on the Patrick Reids,
Speaker 2: on the Taylor Gooches, and and I just I think
Speaker 2: that's I don't know if it's fair, but it's brought
Speaker 2: about because they talk a lot of trash about you know,
Speaker 2: we need to be in the field where we're this
Speaker 2: should be a thing, and it's like, well, okay, let's
Speaker 2: see how we do, and in the first made kind
Speaker 2: of the first really open big field major of twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with this. I think it's actually like
Speaker 1: a moment for the other majors, whether it's the US Open,
Speaker 1: the Open Championship, they get a chance to kind of
Speaker 1: sit back and see what happens, and they get to
Speaker 1: make their decisions. And I don't think it's necessarily like
Speaker 1: a smart practice to react off of you know, what
Speaker 1: happens one week of the year. But you know, there's
Speaker 1: only four of these majors, so there isn't like an
Speaker 1: opportunity to have like a wide ranging sample size to
Speaker 1: to really like make a decision off of. But like
Speaker 1: in the terms of like Burmester Gooch, you know, people
Speaker 1: that you know don't technically qualify if they play well,
Speaker 1: I have to think it will help their case for
Speaker 1: other exemptions into whether it's the Open or the US Open,
Speaker 1: if they play poorly. I don't know if it'll happen
Speaker 1: negative impact, but I think it will be a like thing.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, hey, they didn't play well. We
Speaker 1: still have this problem where it's like a top heavy
Speaker 1: competition over there, the bottom of lives really bad. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't think Anthony Kim is helping the bottom of Live.
Speaker 1: That being said, she want Kim be the worst player
Speaker 1: and Live history. Maybe cut it. Last year's PGA.
Speaker 2: The worst player and live history. What a statement.
Speaker 1: I don't know. James Piatt I saw, I meant to
Speaker 1: post this on Instagram. I saw James piot was like
Speaker 1: duking it and out on the Minor League Tour the
Speaker 1: other day, and I just thought, man from the High
Speaker 1: Flyers Phil Mickelson's team to minor league Tour in less
Speaker 1: than a year, that's that's tough. That's got to be
Speaker 1: a tough transition doing one day South Florida events against
Speaker 1: many tour pros after you were you know, playing for
Speaker 1: twenty million dollars a tournament with fifty four guys or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's that's brutal, you know. I think the
Speaker 2: PGA Championship is also sort of uniquely positioned to invite
Speaker 2: some of these live guys, right because the Masters is
Speaker 2: obviously very small and has very specific and unique criteria
Speaker 2: that opens. Are they set aside and right they set
Speaker 2: aside like half the field right for qualifying in, and
Speaker 2: the PGA is is like the one that the bottom
Speaker 2: what fifth of the field fourth of the field is
Speaker 2: kind of just I don't want to say filled in
Speaker 2: guys randomly, but it's just it's just like kind of
Speaker 2: filled in with whatever they decide. Remember at Kiola when
Speaker 2: Ricky Ricky Fowler hadn't qualified and he got a special exemption,
Speaker 2: and you're like, well, that felt like a sponsor exemption
Speaker 2: almost right where where it's it's it was almost like
Speaker 2: a tour event where you get these sponsored exemptions, which
Speaker 2: I've come to really dislike. Specifically it's a signature events.
Speaker 2: I think they're I think it's just not a great thing.
Speaker 2: That's a whole different conversation.
Speaker 1: But the PGA Championship is very should we talk about
Speaker 1: signature events?
Speaker 2: No, No, I do not want to. Uh. The PGA
Speaker 2: Championship is very uniquely positioned to kind of have the
Speaker 2: loudest voice in some ways on the live debate. And
Speaker 2: I think they've I think they've handled it like fine,
Speaker 2: I think they've I don't. I don't think they've invited
Speaker 2: anybody egregious. And I think who they've invited has been like, yeah,
Speaker 2: if if this was everybody was still together, these are
Speaker 2: probably the players that would be in anyway.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I think there is like, uh, I mean,
Speaker 1: these guys deserve to be in the field. Yeah, A
Speaker 1: lot of them. I mean it's and I think we
Speaker 1: need to like we've gotten to a point with professional
Speaker 1: golf where you know, it's so turned up on side
Speaker 1: upside down a lot of times. What the reasoning behind
Speaker 1: anything it should be is does this make sense? And
Speaker 1: I think this does make sense? So I think that
Speaker 1: we've gotten too far down like the does this work?
Speaker 1: Does this work?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: And it should be? Hey, like this is this is
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Speaker 1: Kyle Porter. All right, First, my first thing I alluded
Speaker 1: to it to earlier. We're not quite at ten years
Speaker 1: of major championships. We're too short of ten years just
Speaker 1: because of the change of the schedule, but we are
Speaker 1: ten years removed from Rory's last major win and it
Speaker 1: happened at this exact tournament, Valhalla, the PGA. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is just a crazy story. I mean, if you
Speaker 1: go back ten years, like, who would imagine that I
Speaker 1: prepared a couple things from twenty fourteen, you're ready for
Speaker 1: ready to get in the time machine and go back
Speaker 1: to twenty four I.
Speaker 2: Don't know if I that feels like I mean, personally,
Speaker 2: it just feels like a lifetime. I mean I only
Speaker 2: had like two kids then.
Speaker 1: All right, So a couple things from twenty fourteen. It
Speaker 1: was like the it was really when Instagram started to
Speaker 1: pop up as like a real thing. So Instagram was
Speaker 1: really taking hold in society, and you know how you
Speaker 1: know that Instagram was taking hold of what was happening then,
Speaker 1: of the filters, the ice Bucket Challenge. Oh gosh, do
Speaker 1: you remember the ice Bucket Challenge?
Speaker 2: Yeah? That was the that was the Rory and what's
Speaker 2: her name? Uh, Megan, Megan Markle? Oh Yeah you remember that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do, I do. I didn't even put that
Speaker 1: in there. Unbelievable, So yeah, Ice Bucket Challenge twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1: Other thing Hunger Games was really big in twenty fourteen. Wow,
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift's nineteen eighty nine album came out One Direction
Speaker 1: was a big thing. Still.
Speaker 2: Then, I think Nile Horn's on tour more than some
Speaker 2: guys that have their card or on tour. He's everywhere.
Speaker 2: Bill Cosby happened in twenty fourteen. Wow.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think this is obviously outside of You've
Speaker 1: got Scottie. I think this is the big story, right.
Speaker 1: You got this guy that was seemingly headed to ten
Speaker 1: and yep, I don't think it's crazy to see him
Speaker 1: get to six, seven, eight, possibly, you know, he ripped
Speaker 1: off four so quickly and in I think he's a
Speaker 1: better player now than he was then. But to have
Speaker 1: him ten years removed, is it's to be the number
Speaker 1: one thing to watch here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's I think there's three primary storylines
Speaker 2: at this event. You mentioned two of them at Scotti, Rory,
Speaker 2: and then I think Brooks going for six is I
Speaker 2: would throw in there as well. But the Rory thing,
Speaker 2: you know, I think the thing you know don't come
Speaker 2: to you and I for like objective Rory takes, but
Speaker 2: I think the thing that is worthy of critique for
Speaker 2: him is not It's not the last couple of years.
Speaker 2: I think people looked at at St Andrews and they
Speaker 2: looked at Lacc and they're like, dude, can't close. And
Speaker 2: that's not the takeaway. The takeaway from that is that
Speaker 2: from twenty fifteen to twenty twenty one, he gave himself
Speaker 2: so so so few chances to win major championships, and
Speaker 2: that that was like his age. I think twenty six
Speaker 2: to thirty two major run, man, that's your like major
Speaker 2: winning Historically, that's like a really great time maybe toward
Speaker 2: the like into your early thirties, to win major championships,
Speaker 2: and he gave himself almost no chances to do so.
Speaker 2: Twenty eighteen Masters kind of there might have been one
Speaker 2: or two others that were sort of in there, but
Speaker 2: I think that has been the real disappointment for him
Speaker 2: of the last ten years. Is that twenty fifteen to
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one run.
Speaker 1: You hear it in is when he talks about it,
Speaker 1: you know, like I'm giving myself so many more chances now.
Speaker 1: I think, like the thing that's challenging with Rory you
Speaker 1: when you look at this is I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people and it's another one that I think is
Speaker 1: a storyline here. But you look at someone like Jordan
Speaker 1: Speith and you're like, maybe he just played his best
Speaker 1: golf at age twenty three, you know, twenty two that
Speaker 1: I don't think you could look at Rory and the
Speaker 1: player he is now, the way he can play a
Speaker 1: lot of different yep, And I don't think you can
Speaker 1: look at it and say, like, you know what, he
Speaker 1: was just way better then, because I think he's better now.
Speaker 1: Which is the weird thing about this whole ten year drought,
Speaker 1: is that he has improved as a player. It's not
Speaker 1: It's not the typical golf story of like, oh, he
Speaker 1: had it then and he doesn't have it now. And
Speaker 1: I think I think there's like a one of the things,
Speaker 1: if I really I think he's giving himself more chances now,
Speaker 1: but by he is missing a little bit of the
Speaker 1: old Rory that put the gas pedal down and just
Speaker 1: went yeah.
Speaker 2: Fall Hall is a great example of that, right. It
Speaker 2: was Phil and Ricky fistbumping and Rory's pissed and Sean
Speaker 2: Sean Zaki is the tern. The other day he was
Speaker 2: so addicted to club toworreling that he would that he
Speaker 2: even Club torel bad shots and you're like, yeah, that
Speaker 2: was that was who he was. And he's talked about that,
Speaker 2: like he said, I think he did a Q and
Speaker 2: A with Jeff Shackelford that was really good for the quad.
Speaker 2: Yeah that was a Yeah, it was excellent. He said
Speaker 2: that was golf was my life, Like that was that
Speaker 2: was it. And he's like that's not true anymore, which
Speaker 2: I think is something that I've always it's hard to reconcile,
Speaker 2: right because I admire that about him as a person,
Speaker 2: that that's not his entire existence like some of these guys,
Speaker 2: but I think it can maybe prohibit him from you know,
Speaker 2: being what he was at Kiwa and what he was
Speaker 2: at you know, Congressional like some of these like six
Speaker 2: seven shot major championship wins. What's crazy? And you you've
Speaker 2: talked about this a lot elsewhere. The idea of being
Speaker 2: that good for that long that you could that you
Speaker 2: would even be a favorite to win majors ten years
Speaker 2: apart is really crazy. And I think if he's able
Speaker 2: to do it, like let's say he gets just six
Speaker 2: or seven even that's one of the I don't know
Speaker 2: if it's feel good in terms of his Phil Micholson
Speaker 2: good in terms of the longevity and the endurance there,
Speaker 2: But to me, it's it's kind of in the ballpark
Speaker 2: of something like that, where it's it's so hard to
Speaker 2: be that good for that long, and I think that's
Speaker 2: been a pretty underrated part of his career so far.
Speaker 1: The longevity is unbelievable, especially in this era where yeah,
Speaker 1: I was playing with I was playing golf with someone
Speaker 1: who's probably going to be on PGA Tour next year yesterday,
Speaker 1: and they were talking about, like listen, like everybody just
Speaker 1: wants to make money and be done, you know, and
Speaker 1: I think, like to have that long career now it
Speaker 1: used to be so much like, well, I'm going to
Speaker 1: keep making money because I want to retire to this lifestyle,
Speaker 1: like especially right now in pro golf. Like you see,
Speaker 1: like the money these guys, I mean, Victor Hovlin made
Speaker 1: what fifty million dollars or something.
Speaker 2: He twenty six, He could be done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that used to be an extraordinary career he
Speaker 1: did in a year.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: The with the money that's there, it's not. Longevity now
Speaker 1: is a combination of competitiveness, passion for the game, and talent,
Speaker 1: which it's never been that because you know, when Hogan
Speaker 1: or Nicholas was playing, you were playing no matter what
Speaker 1: as long as you could to maximize those earnings. Right, Like,
Speaker 1: these guys are getting to retirement sums of money so
Speaker 1: early in their career, like retire and live life exactly
Speaker 1: how you want to live life. Yeah, sums of money.
Speaker 1: It's so early that, like the longevity thing, it's it's
Speaker 1: more impressive now than it's ever been.
Speaker 2: I agree. I mean I used to say this about
Speaker 2: so I used to cover college basketball college football, and
Speaker 2: people used to say, like, oh, those college kids, they
Speaker 2: just love the game. And it's like, no that, I mean,
Speaker 2: maybe they do. The guy that really loves such a
Speaker 2: cliche for sure. But the guy that really loves the
Speaker 2: game is Kevin Durant, is Steph Curry, is Lebron who
Speaker 2: have made a collective seven hundred and eighty million dollars
Speaker 2: just on the court or whatever the number is, and
Speaker 2: are still grinding and playing and getting after it. Like,
Speaker 2: those are the guys that really love the game. And
Speaker 2: I think I think that Rory is one of those
Speaker 2: types of guys that really does. I mean, his his
Speaker 2: like what he values is different now at thirty five
Speaker 2: than at twenty five. But I think his love for
Speaker 2: the game is even greater if that, I think those
Speaker 2: two things can coexist, and I think that they do
Speaker 2: with him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, what's the next one of your list?
Speaker 2: So I've got is Wyndham Clark for real? And so
Speaker 2: I think there's a couple of things here. One of
Speaker 2: cars the number three player in the world, and I
Speaker 2: don't know that.
Speaker 1: I don't know if people can we just adjust that
Speaker 1: down to four for the just for the live community
Speaker 1: that will yell about John Rahm.
Speaker 2: Okay, four, he's a top five player. And I don't
Speaker 2: know how many of the live community is listening to
Speaker 2: Andy Johnson, co Ar or Friday.
Speaker 1: Probably a lot of them. Hater's hate is a is
Speaker 1: a wonderful listening mechanism for sure.
Speaker 2: Hate listen. Uh. Wyndham Clark has had I mean, if
Speaker 2: not for Scotty Scheffler, he could have four wins this year, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I think that you guys talked about this a
Speaker 2: little bit off and on, Like if you look at
Speaker 2: the last eighteen months, like you go back to the
Speaker 2: beginning of twenty twenty three, he's been one of like
Speaker 2: unequival one of the three or four best guys in
Speaker 2: the world from not only the consistency but also the
Speaker 2: play at major championships. And I think that, you know,
Speaker 2: people don't love him for whatever reason, whether they think
Speaker 2: that he's I don't know. There are several reasons maybe
Speaker 2: to not like him. But I think we're kind of
Speaker 2: underrating what he is or could be. And this is
Speaker 2: the type of this is actually the type of setup
Speaker 2: Andy at a PGA that I think fits him better
Speaker 2: than like a US Open, which he wont at lacc I.
Speaker 2: He's so his his I was looking at the numbers
Speaker 2: the other day. He averages like one eighty six ball
Speaker 2: speed off the tee or one eighty five. Maybe it's
Speaker 2: something insane, and at a big ballpark like Balhalla, it
Speaker 2: just seems like that's the type of thing that plays
Speaker 2: into his hands very well. If he can keep driver
Speaker 2: on the planet, I think that's the one thing where
Speaker 2: it's like, okay, lic is maybe a little bit more open,
Speaker 2: so maybe that helps him out. But I just I
Speaker 2: think he's in the middle, potentially in the middle of
Speaker 2: a run that we'll look back on and say, man,
Speaker 2: that was that was really impressive. And it got overshadowed
Speaker 2: a little bit by all the LIVEPGA tour stuff and
Speaker 2: by Scotti Schufflor.
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Speaker 1: Let's get back to Kyle Porter. Now, do you think
Speaker 1: that people aren't Wyndham people? And I think this goes
Speaker 1: with Scotty Shuffler too, because those guys are just not
Speaker 1: Rory McElroy or Jordan Speith. Do you think or even
Speaker 1: I think even like John Rahm, Like, do you think
Speaker 1: that is the more the the precipice of like, why
Speaker 1: people aren't that into them is because it's just they
Speaker 1: aren't the guys that they really want to win.
Speaker 2: Possibly by that, do you mean they weren't prodigies like
Speaker 2: because because yeah, Wyndham and Scotty were both very very
Speaker 2: good amateurs, but they weren't like Rory was a prodigy, right.
Speaker 1: And Speed was a prodigy.
Speaker 2: Rom was up there too, and so it's almost like
Speaker 2: they they they've come in a little bit later, even
Speaker 2: though it's still early by most PGA, by most professional
Speaker 2: golf career standards, and people are like, wait a second,
Speaker 2: who are you again? Is that like is that what
Speaker 2: you're getting a.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I just think that there's there's like
Speaker 1: five golfers that people are fans of. It's like Tiger
Speaker 1: phil Ry, Jordan Speeth, Yeah, John Daly, I think is
Speaker 1: he playing? Is he? Is he still in this?
Speaker 2: I think so, I don't know. I I look up
Speaker 2: the field, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's only a handful of players that have
Speaker 1: real fans. Yeah, so I think when anyone outside of
Speaker 1: those people win, it's like I like, I don't like
Speaker 1: this guy, yeah, or like nobody cares about him. I
Speaker 1: think it'd be a hard thing to be one of
Speaker 1: the ten best players in the world at something and
Speaker 1: realize that like the greater interests of the sport doesn't
Speaker 1: really care about you.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, this was such a thing in tennis
Speaker 2: for so long, right where you could have been the
Speaker 2: fifth best guy and people are like what who you
Speaker 2: don't even know?
Speaker 1: Like it was like Andy Murray and who else was
Speaker 1: the you know outside it was.
Speaker 2: Like it was like stan Lavrinka, I can't ever say
Speaker 2: his last name, Uh yeah, the Potrow, Martin del Potrow, right,
Speaker 2: and just guys. Then you're like, this guy's literally like
Speaker 2: one of the best that's ever done this, and.
Speaker 1: People are like, where's he from again, because the other
Speaker 1: three are such larger than life figures.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's I think there's for sure some
Speaker 2: of that. I think. I don't know, man, I think
Speaker 2: about I think a lot about why do I actually
Speaker 2: think about this question of why do people? Why do
Speaker 2: fans like a specific person more than another? I think
Speaker 2: about that idea a lot, and I think there's some
Speaker 2: intangibles there that you just like, a like almost like
Speaker 2: an aura or a presence. I'm reading this this Mickey
Speaker 2: Man biography right now, that's very good by this woman
Speaker 2: named Jane Levy. I hope I'm pronouncing that right. But
Speaker 2: there's a great quote in there where one of his
Speaker 2: teammates said his aura had an aura, and I think
Speaker 2: that's true with some of these guys. It's like, well,
Speaker 2: what like Jordan Speed, there's nothing special about you know.
Speaker 2: You look at Jordan Speith and you don't think like,
Speaker 2: you know, you look at Tiger and you're kind of like, okay,
Speaker 2: I get it, Like he like from breaking some race barriers,
Speaker 2: from being like a let like all this stuff. Speed
Speaker 2: is just like a normal looking white dude that's really
Speaker 2: that was really good at golf at a young age.
Speaker 2: But there's some there's something intangible there that's impossible to
Speaker 2: explain that I feel like plays into the way that
Speaker 2: we think, root for and and talk about some of
Speaker 2: these guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I would agree with that. And then you know,
Speaker 1: to your greater Windham point, I mean, the guy's been incredible,
Speaker 1: and I agree that this is a great fit for him.
Speaker 1: And if you're you know, I always like to like,
Speaker 1: it's like the back of the napkin. If you just
Speaker 1: wrote down your favorites here, I think it would go Scheffler.
Speaker 1: And then in that number two spot, like it's not
Speaker 1: crazy to have Wyndham there, which is you know, sixteen
Speaker 1: months ago if you said this to you, is if
Speaker 1: I said this to you, you'd be like, that's absolutely bananas. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: So I think this is a great spot for him.
Speaker 1: I think really like I mean what you said is like,
Speaker 1: without Scottie around, this guy would be the guy might
Speaker 1: be number one in the world. I know, all right,
Speaker 1: we've talked about him. He's going for the career Grand Slam.
Speaker 2: I did not have this on my list. I don't
Speaker 2: think it's worthy of being a.
Speaker 1: This is a little I just have it because this
Speaker 1: is are we at the lowest buzz moment ever for
Speaker 1: a career Grand Slam? Like is Phil at the u
Speaker 1: US Open at Pinehurst's gonna have more buzz for a
Speaker 1: career Grand Slam than this?
Speaker 2: Well, there was one I think it was Beth Page
Speaker 2: where it was like, yeah, there's there's and then that
Speaker 2: he actually finished like T three, T three. I have
Speaker 2: that in here.
Speaker 1: I mean he had so he had the whistling straight second,
Speaker 1: which was like a duel him and Jason. That was
Speaker 1: Rockham epic, epic tournament, and that was speed at the
Speaker 1: height of his powers, and probably you know and Jason
Speaker 1: Day really at the height of his power. That was
Speaker 1: it was a great, great tournament. And then you got
Speaker 1: the completely non competitive Beth Page. I think he led
Speaker 1: this the field in like strokes game, putting by like
Speaker 1: an absurd number and finished like seven shot shots back.
Speaker 1: I think that might have been like the very start
Speaker 1: of my justin guy take.
Speaker 2: I remember, I think he played with I think he
Speaker 2: played with Brooks on Saturday because they I think he
Speaker 2: somehow got into the final pair and I don't think
Speaker 2: I think he was like T two and I remember
Speaker 2: following them thinking like, this guy doesn't even know where
Speaker 2: the center of the club face. He is much less
Speaker 2: like is he able to find it? I mean it
Speaker 2: was shocking how bad he hit it and how good
Speaker 2: he scored. So yeah, I think there have been other
Speaker 2: events that he's PGA's that he's entered with a lack
Speaker 2: of buzz, but this is down there, I think with
Speaker 2: all of them.
Speaker 1: Last four PGAs T seventy one, T thirty, T thirty four,
Speaker 1: T twenty nine, So pretty lackluster since that Beth Page
Speaker 1: kind of rab it out of the hat. But just
Speaker 1: in general, I for a big name player going for
Speaker 1: the career Grand Slam, yeah nothing, Phil have more buzz
Speaker 1: at Pinehurst.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I just I I'll go ahead and mention
Speaker 2: my next one, this is this is my third one,
Speaker 2: because I think it plays into what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: I think PGAs have become a very like the PGA
Speaker 2: of America has a type if if if we want
Speaker 2: to say it like that, and what I mean by
Speaker 2: that is is golf course. You know, they've started going
Speaker 2: to these like big, brawny, beefy, you know, built up
Speaker 2: rough golf courses, and that's not great for Jordan Speth,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: It pretty narrows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it lessens the the I think the number of
Speaker 2: guys that could potentially win the tournament, which I think
Speaker 2: can be actually good for your brand overall for the
Speaker 2: casual fan because they want to see the Brooks and
Speaker 2: the Hovelin and the Shuffler and the Rory. But it's
Speaker 2: it's I don't know that it's great for the game specifically,
Speaker 2: and I and I definitely don't think it's good for
Speaker 2: Jordan Speith and his You know, we haven't talked about
Speaker 2: it a ton. I know it's been talked about behind
Speaker 2: the scenes, but I think the risk thing is not
Speaker 2: nothing and to and to be at a at a
Speaker 2: tournament like this where Rough grown up and you're just
Speaker 2: kind of hacking. Sometimes I don't maybe they won't grow
Speaker 2: it up like they did at Oak Hill. I haven't
Speaker 2: seen any we haven't gotten our first rough video yet,
Speaker 2: but come out. I just got right around the corner.
Speaker 2: It might might be out before this is released. I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't see this as being a very good fit
Speaker 2: for Jordan.
Speaker 1: Sped Yeah, I I don't. I don't see it being
Speaker 1: a good fit. I just and I do think I
Speaker 1: do agree with your your take care about the about
Speaker 1: the type. I mean, there's there's some golf course similarities,
Speaker 1: but you know, I think it's the Carry Hague era
Speaker 1: of setup. And I think he gets a lot of
Speaker 1: credit for the championships he produces and the the fairness
Speaker 1: and you know all that. But I will say that
Speaker 1: like there is no evolution. It's it's kind of the
Speaker 1: same playbook you're in year out. And I think like
Speaker 1: side of like I think you put like Kyowa kind
Speaker 1: of in its own box and Southern Hills. I thought
Speaker 1: Southern Hills was great too in terms of like variety
Speaker 1: of golf courses, but now we're heading into this this
Speaker 1: murderer's row here of Valhalla and Quail Hollow, where you know,
Speaker 1: you know what you're gonna get. And and I think
Speaker 1: the PGA, in a sense, like you have your it's
Speaker 1: like a souped up PGA Tour event, right, it kind
Speaker 1: of feels like what the Players wants to be, you know,
Speaker 1: a major that's really just a bigger PGA Tour event.
Speaker 2: But I would argue that the Players has more going
Speaker 2: for it in terms like from that standpoint than the
Speaker 2: PGA because it's got I think.
Speaker 1: It's the recognizability of the course.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think TPC Sawgrass can offer more variety
Speaker 2: than some sometimes not than Kiowa or Southern Hills. I
Speaker 2: agree with you on those. But you go Oakhill, Valhalla
Speaker 2: and kual Holla right in a row, and it's like,
Speaker 2: is that kind of just all the same golf course
Speaker 2: in different locations? You know that that can be what
Speaker 2: it what it feels like at times. What about Harding Park,
Speaker 2: I'm not as deep.
Speaker 1: On Harding Park. I think Harding Park would fill a
Speaker 1: file under this type of golf course. Okay, Valhalla very
Speaker 1: you know, like from an architectural features thing like Harding
Speaker 1: Parks like about rough its rough and heavy air. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know I think like here you've got you know,
Speaker 1: some hazards, some bunkers, but it's going to be it's
Speaker 1: an execution tournament. And I think that's you know, I'll
Speaker 1: go to go to one of mine. Here we're just
Speaker 1: knocking these down. That's the thing when you when you
Speaker 1: don't have, when you're not you know, Trevor, you know
Speaker 1: he's we're just flowing going one to one. You know,
Speaker 1: you brought up Trevor and this is this is what
Speaker 1: media for. We're two media pros here. We're just going
Speaker 1: knocking down down things here. But the uh, I'll say,
Speaker 1: like this is you know, the Brooks Kopka right when
Speaker 1: we when we start to zoom out of like the
Speaker 1: Brooks Kopka archetype is he's got the chance to go
Speaker 1: down as the greatest PGA player of all time, which
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means at the grand scheme
Speaker 1: of things. I think I think anybody would want to
Speaker 1: be the best Masters player, the best Open Championship player,
Speaker 1: But like you know, he's got three of these things.
Speaker 1: It feels like a really good chance for number four,
Speaker 1: with him winning the live event last week and seemingly
Speaker 1: turning some turning some corners with this form, I think
Speaker 1: he's got to be in your your first five favorites,
Speaker 1: first three favorites really and like you start to look
Speaker 1: at it. If he gets another one, it's Jack with five,
Speaker 1: Walter Hagen with five, which Walter Hagen was playing in
Speaker 1: when there's match play, and then you got Tiger with four,
Speaker 1: and Brooks is right there, like you know, this is
Speaker 1: this is an insane thing. He's going for the sixth major.
Speaker 1: He's doing it in a completely different way than anybody
Speaker 1: we've ever seen. We've never seen somebody with such low
Speaker 1: volume of winds was such a high volume of major winds, right,
Speaker 1: And I just think these the one of the things
Speaker 1: like we could zoom out twenty years from now and
Speaker 1: be like, you know what, like Carrie Haig just you know,
Speaker 1: his setup philosophy was just Taylor made for Brooks Koepka.
Speaker 1: And I think there's also some intangibles there with Brooks,
Speaker 1: his demeanor, his his attitude, his and a lot of
Speaker 1: it his talent. But these tournaments just like I mean,
Speaker 1: this one just seems to be just absolutely perfect for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, carry Haig Brooks, the Brooks whisperer. Seriously,
Speaker 2: I think the oh you mentioned the three guys that
Speaker 2: have won four or more PGAs Tiger, Jack and Walter Hagen,
Speaker 2: I've got another number for you here. Since nineteen eighty
Speaker 2: so that's what last forty almost forty five years, only
Speaker 2: one golfer has won six majors by age thirty four,
Speaker 2: and obviously that's Tiger and Brooks just turned thirty four.
Speaker 2: You know the thing that I wrote about Hm last
Speaker 2: year after you wanted okill was you know he joined.
Speaker 2: I think it's a group of twenty guys that had
Speaker 2: won five majors, and twenty is just you know, I wrote,
Speaker 2: five majors is so many and twenty guys is so few.
Speaker 2: Like it's just so like every level now is a
Speaker 2: different I mean, he's he's a couple away from Arnold Palmer, which.
Speaker 1: Is just.
Speaker 2: Crazy at his age. I mean, this is the age
Speaker 2: that Phil started winning majors and Phil got to six.
Speaker 2: Now do I think Brooks is going to have the
Speaker 2: career longevity of Phil. I don't. But I think he
Speaker 2: said something after heone lived Singapore, Indy, and that was
Speaker 2: he talked about. He gave this quote about how I'm
Speaker 2: willing to go to a place that not a lot
Speaker 2: of other guys are willing to go. And that can
Speaker 2: come off a little bit as you know, just Brooks
Speaker 2: being Brooks and saying his cocky stuff and whatever. But
Speaker 2: I do think that his willingness to enter a mentality
Speaker 2: of committedness and discipline to each shot at the majors
Speaker 2: is really admirable. And I kind of theorize the other day,
Speaker 2: does his willingness does the energy he expends on committing
Speaker 2: to every shot and being that focused at major championships
Speaker 2: almost take away from like he's just unwilling to go
Speaker 2: to that place at other tournaments, which is why he
Speaker 2: doesn't win as much. And I think that might be
Speaker 2: the case. Like I think he's just unwilling to expend
Speaker 2: that energy, mental or emotional or whatever it is at
Speaker 2: majors at a random well, formerly a random PGA Tour
Speaker 2: event and now live event.
Speaker 1: It's it's similar to like what we see with playoff
Speaker 1: basketball and playoff hockey, right, Like everybody like, oh, playoff
Speaker 1: hockey is the best. Nobody could play playoff hockey like
Speaker 1: this for an entire season, correct, And maybe that's that's
Speaker 1: just the way it is. Same with playoff baseball, same
Speaker 1: with I mean the NBA, Like just the the attention
Speaker 1: to detail, possession to possession that these guys have in
Speaker 1: the NBA playoffs is just at a whole different level.
Speaker 1: And the intensity is I think that's that's the thing.
Speaker 1: And I think there's like there's also an aspect of
Speaker 1: golf is that there are there are people that when
Speaker 1: that intensity ramps up, do turtle a little bit. And
Speaker 1: there's also the as the intensity raps ramps up in golf.
Speaker 1: One of the things that I always appreciate is that
Speaker 1: it always always shows the weaknesses of players, and I
Speaker 1: think when you look at Brooks, he's extraordinarily well rounded.
Speaker 1: He might not be the best driver of the golf ball,
Speaker 1: the best iron player, the best short game player, or
Speaker 1: the best putter, but when it comes to putting all three,
Speaker 1: all four of those aspects of the game together, there
Speaker 1: are very few people that have as few. You know,
Speaker 1: there's no holes. You know, the putter was an issue
Speaker 1: when he couldn't practice or crouch down to read putts,
Speaker 1: But like I mean, like when he gets going on
Speaker 1: in a major run, the putter is just it's one
Speaker 1: of the best things he has. Is that that like
Speaker 1: he just he failed. He always he just never gives
Speaker 1: stuff away when he's going and and it's just that
Speaker 1: all around talent. You see it with Scotti too, is
Speaker 1: that like if you do everything really well, it's hard
Speaker 1: to play poorly when especially when the when the level
Speaker 1: of setup and and competition goes up. So I think
Speaker 1: with Brooks, like he always talks about how he's an athlete,
Speaker 1: maybe his approach to golf is just that like I'm
Speaker 1: not going to expend all my energy winning this event
Speaker 1: that I don't really care about because I know I
Speaker 1: need in the long run, I need to save it
Speaker 1: for the majors.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's I mean, I've tried to come
Speaker 2: up with ways to explain it because it's historically inexplicable.
Speaker 2: It just doesn't. It doesn't if you win this many majors,
Speaker 2: you win at a clip like Rory, which is twenty
Speaker 2: five times on the PGA Tour. Right, and do you
Speaker 2: remember a Kioa when I compared him to Eddie Tobbense
Speaker 2: when he was spotting down catching reading putts. And then
Speaker 2: Eddie Tobbinsey's wife reached out to me on Twitter. She did, Yeah,
Speaker 2: she said, she said, hey, Eddie's she tweeted this. It
Speaker 2: was extraordinary, one of my favorite Twitter moments ever. She said, Hey,
Speaker 2: my husband's not on Twitter, but he just he appreciates
Speaker 2: that somebody remembers his career. He's out. All he does
Speaker 2: is fish now. So I'll tell him that you said.
Speaker 1: That amazing what had been saying moment, Eddie Savinsky It
Speaker 1: So if he wins this, he joins Trevino. If he
Speaker 1: wins another major, he joins Trevino, Faldo, Mickelson. At six,
Speaker 1: he'll be one of sixteen players. And I think the
Speaker 1: other aspect of this that you have to bring up
Speaker 1: six today feels a lot bigger than six in nineteen ninety. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's gonna get some people bothered, but.
Speaker 2: I think that's right at It's hard to look at
Speaker 2: an industry historically where you infuse this much more money
Speaker 2: and it didn't eventually become more competitive. And I think
Speaker 2: with with Tiger's entrance twenty five years ago, you're seeing
Speaker 2: the real like and when money started flowing in, you're
Speaker 2: seeing the realation of that, of that competitiveness. It's just more.
Speaker 2: There's just more good. I don't know that there's more
Speaker 2: great elite like generational players, but there's more really really
Speaker 2: good players, I think, And it's more competitive now than ever,
Speaker 2: I don't you know. I think that the other thing
Speaker 2: is is the Brooks versus Rory thing. I think right now,
Speaker 2: even though Brooks has more majors, you would say Rory's
Speaker 2: had a better career because he's won more types of
Speaker 2: majors and he's just one more worldwide, and it's longer,
Speaker 2: but you start to get two or three ahead in majors,
Speaker 2: and that that becomes a different conversation and you have
Speaker 2: to say, like you have to look at is Brooks
Speaker 2: the best player of you know, like the last well,
Speaker 2: the post Tiger time, and then you know Scotty enters
Speaker 2: that at some point as well.
Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about Scotty?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think what has the base be come yet? I
Speaker 1: don't it's Friday afternoon. I don't love delving into like
Speaker 1: personal life, gestational.
Speaker 2: Periods or anything like that. But wasn't she do like
Speaker 2: at the end of April.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think this is the whole thing,
Speaker 1: And I think Scotti was pretty gunshy to like kind
Speaker 1: of talk about it at the Masters, because like I
Speaker 1: had heard, it was three weeks out at the Masters,
Speaker 1: it was like a late Masters. So we're probably like
Speaker 1: right in the window.
Speaker 2: But like.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we're actually getting to the point
Speaker 1: where it's beneficial that it's way it's been this long,
Speaker 1: because if he gets it like right after, if if
Speaker 1: if he was two weeks into parenthood, I think it
Speaker 1: would be harder than if it's like the baby comes
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know what, I got this major championship.
Speaker 1: I was here for the for the birth, and now
Speaker 1: I'm going to do my thing. Then if you're I,
Speaker 1: you know I I think we talk a lot about this,
Speaker 1: but like golf is such a mental game that like
Speaker 1: changes in life do matter with how you process, how
Speaker 1: you think. It's just such a it's not real. It's
Speaker 1: not a reactionary sports. It's not it's not basketball where
Speaker 1: you know you're making split second decisions and it's all
Speaker 1: instinctually based, like their thought in having a kid changes
Speaker 1: the fabric of a person. And everybody likes to use
Speaker 1: perspective and what it does to you know, perspective can
Speaker 1: hurt you too. It's like what what I always go
Speaker 1: back to the Cotric quote about experiences and all, like
Speaker 1: it's cracked up to. Perspective can also it can make
Speaker 1: you worry more, It can make you you know, it
Speaker 1: can make you think about things differently, and for golfer
Speaker 1: that stuff like really really matters. But like the longer
Speaker 1: this baby takes, I think, the better it is for Scottie.
Speaker 1: Like I think it's like it's it's fitting like I
Speaker 1: think it was. If there was any negative potential of
Speaker 1: having a kid impacting Scotty is if the kid came
Speaker 1: two weeks ago and he's like into three week three
Speaker 1: of being a parent, and you're just head spinning, like
Speaker 1: this is crazy. I'm getting up at you know, I'm
Speaker 1: sure they'll have a night nurse, but like I'm getting
Speaker 1: up at three in the morning and having these problems.
Speaker 1: I haven't slept through the night for two weeks.
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, I do think you know, just the
Speaker 2: euphoria of having a child, like you could almost like yeah,
Speaker 2: I agree with you. Like you go to the PGA
Speaker 2: and you're like, oh, this is an amazing life experience.
Speaker 2: I want to go win the It almost it almost
Speaker 2: like this sounds weird, but it almost frees you up
Speaker 2: a little bit to go to go play.
Speaker 1: I remember I played. I played around a golf like
Speaker 1: right before my daughter's birth, and my head was like
Speaker 1: the only we had a we had an induction, so
Speaker 1: like I had that the date was ere a C section.
Speaker 1: We had like the date like you know set and
Speaker 1: I was playing like golf like maybe the day or
Speaker 1: two days before, and I mean my head was in
Speaker 1: a blender. I was so far away from the golf
Speaker 1: course and I'm not comparing playing a major to that.
Speaker 1: But but I remember the round after it was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm playing like I was so much more free. So
Speaker 1: I think if this this kid come. I hate that
Speaker 1: we're analyzing it to this and not just talking about
Speaker 1: this year, but like, you know, like from like from
Speaker 1: the golf perspective, like he's the best player in the
Speaker 1: world right now. It's without a doubt, and it would
Speaker 1: be it would be crazy if he's not in contention.
Speaker 1: But you know, you know, you don't know the kid
Speaker 1: dynamic is.
Speaker 2: Going to be. It would be funny if if Taylor
Speaker 2: Gooch got in the field but there was still an
Speaker 2: asterisk on this major because Scotty didn't play.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, does that at this point?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 1: Is it out of the question.
Speaker 2: I just I literally just got a text from some
Speaker 2: different people that they they think that it did that
Speaker 2: this has happened. Now, Okay, this is a couple people removed.
Speaker 2: So I don't I don't know, but you're on the plex,
Speaker 2: You're you're right there. Yeah, I need to just I
Speaker 2: need to start dialing into some you know, generating some
Speaker 2: hippo violations. Just see what s what's see what's going
Speaker 2: on in the in the Metroplex. I think, listen, I
Speaker 2: think the story with Scotty we've already discussed. I think
Speaker 2: one half of it, which is like where is he
Speaker 2: going to be at mentally? Is he even going to
Speaker 2: play all that? I think the second half is I
Speaker 2: genuinely think that the Grand Slam is in play, and
Speaker 2: that sounds crazy. I think it's almost impossible to win
Speaker 2: the Grand Slam in the modern I mean, nobody's ever
Speaker 2: done it right, and especially in this era which we
Speaker 2: talked about, I think is probably more competitive than ever,
Speaker 2: and it's so it's extraordinarily difficult. But he is playing
Speaker 2: at a level that I think people are not. And
Speaker 2: he was doing this last year. Andy, he did this
Speaker 2: last summer and the putter wasn't there. But it made me.
Speaker 2: It made me go back and look at some of
Speaker 2: Tiger's years and I compared it to I think it
Speaker 2: was six Tiger, where he won like his last six
Speaker 2: events of six and they were playing at the exact
Speaker 2: same level. Tea green Tiger was just started putting better.
Speaker 2: And now Scotty's hit that run where he's putting it
Speaker 2: better than he was. Still not great, but good enough
Speaker 2: and much better than he was and he's won four
Speaker 2: or five and you know, if Speith can get within
Speaker 2: what do you get within four guys of winning the
Speaker 2: Slam In twenty fifteen he lost to four guys that year,
Speaker 2: three at the Open and Jason Day. I don't think
Speaker 2: it's crazy. I don't think it's inconceivable to think that
Speaker 2: Scotty could take it to Pinehurst, which would be it'd
Speaker 2: be a really really cool story to have the Slam
Speaker 2: alive going to Pinehurst for the major of the year.
Speaker 1: I mean, when you talk about course fit, I think
Speaker 1: this one is. It's every course is a great fit
Speaker 1: for Scotty, but this one might throttle back a little.
Speaker 1: Like in terms of spectrum, if I was going to
Speaker 1: build a golf course for Scotty, it's like Augustin at
Speaker 1: I think Pinehurst number two is like an extraordinary fit
Speaker 1: because that's going to be such a ball striking you know,
Speaker 1: It's it's gonna be about getting up and down and
Speaker 1: hitting really good iron shots. And I don't know anybody
Speaker 1: that's that's better at those two things. It's like Scotty
Speaker 1: camp Smith, Like if camp Smith's playing really, really on
Speaker 1: his game, like that Pinehurst setup is going to be
Speaker 1: really dynamite for him, and then you go to Troon like,
Speaker 1: I definitely think it's like one of those years. If
Speaker 1: I was if I offered you a bet double digit
Speaker 1: players beat Scottie Scheffler in majors, like and if somebody
Speaker 1: beats him twice accounts as two you know, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: double digit players beat Scotti Schefflers in all four majors
Speaker 1: this year? Would you take that over or under of that?
Speaker 2: I would take under because we've seen it happen, not
Speaker 2: just with Speth Brooks. Did it recently or it was close?
Speaker 2: It was like right around eight nine ten, and Rory
Speaker 2: did at recent Roy did it in it was again,
Speaker 2: it was close. It was twenty twenty two. He finished
Speaker 2: second at the Masters, third at the Open, and he
Speaker 2: was like top seven I think in the PGA and
Speaker 2: the US Open as well. So we've had a bunch
Speaker 2: of guys that are close and he's already. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: would take the under, honestly, Which is that seems insane?
Speaker 1: Like that seems like a insane thing to think about,
Speaker 1: Like I played these four the four hardest golf tournaments
Speaker 1: with the best players in the world, and only five
Speaker 1: guys beat me all year.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that it's and it's not for me.
Speaker 2: It's not just about this year necessarily. If you go
Speaker 2: back to I've got the numbers right, if you go
Speaker 2: back to twenty twenty at the Majors, So the start
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty, he missed the US Open that year.
Speaker 2: I think he had COVID. But he is about a
Speaker 2: half stroke better from tee to green at the Majors
Speaker 2: than the next best guy. He's He's two point seven
Speaker 2: to two from tee to green. Zala, Taurus and Rory
Speaker 2: are two point twenty six tea green. That's two point
Speaker 2: twenty six strokes game per round. So he is, what
Speaker 2: is that two strokes per tournament better than the second
Speaker 2: best guy from tea green over the last four years.
Speaker 2: That's that's an enormous difference. And yeah, I mean a
Speaker 2: million people said it, but the putter is good enough
Speaker 2: right now that And I think mentally, he said this
Speaker 2: after RBC Heritage, he said, mentally, I'm just in the
Speaker 2: best place I've ever mentally and emotionally, I'm in the
Speaker 2: best place I've ever been in. And I think you
Speaker 2: can you can see that he just looks so much
Speaker 2: freer than he did even earlier this year when he
Speaker 2: was like, I remember Bayhill, he missed a couple of
Speaker 2: putts early and he was like, just it's uh, it's
Speaker 2: super super frustrating, and he just looks like he's playing
Speaker 2: incredibly free golf right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's uh, he's in the best place. It's
Speaker 1: it's what you always say about golf. When you get
Speaker 1: it going, it feels like you're never gonna lose it,
Speaker 1: and when you lose it, you feel like you're never
Speaker 1: gonna be get it back. And he's at the stage
Speaker 1: where it's like it's inconceivable. I'd be surprised, honestly. Would
Speaker 1: you be surprised, be more surprised if he won, or
Speaker 1: more surprised if he shot a round over seventy one
Speaker 1: next week?
Speaker 2: For sure, more surprised if he shot a round over
Speaker 2: seventy one.
Speaker 1: I think these are the types of questions that like
Speaker 1: get to where we're at with Scotty.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, yeah, he's done. He's only done it, I
Speaker 2: think three times this year now. I maybe I Valhalla
Speaker 2: is set up crazy and I don't you know, I
Speaker 2: might change that answer next Wednesday, but I don't.
Speaker 1: Think it's I mean these PGAs are usually you know,
Speaker 1: eight to eight to fourteen under right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, John Daly is in the field, by the way,
Speaker 2: insane is your Do you can I talk about my
Speaker 2: number one story? Yeah, Blockey, No, Scotty was my number
Speaker 2: one I did. I did want to give a mention.
Speaker 2: I don't know how many I've done, but I did
Speaker 2: want to give one quick mention because I think this
Speaker 2: guy is kind of in a good spot right now.
Speaker 2: And that's that's the old thick boy, the newly the
Speaker 2: newly slim boy. Bryson played really good at the Masters.
Speaker 2: He played very good at o'kill last year. That was okaill.
Speaker 2: Last year was kind of the beginning of this new
Speaker 2: whatever version nine of him. I don't know what version
Speaker 2: were on, but you know he is. I've called him
Speaker 2: the high King of Content, which he is.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: It's not enough for him to win the Masters. He
Speaker 2: has to win him. He has to win the Masters
Speaker 2: with three d golf clubs, which is outrageous, but he
Speaker 2: You know, this is when I say, hey, there's like
Speaker 2: six guys, it feels like they could win it. I
Speaker 2: would actually throw Bryson in there. I think he is
Speaker 2: just so well set up for for PJA Championships at
Speaker 2: courses like this, and I'm fascinated to see how he plays.
Speaker 1: I yeah, I agree. I think like I was talking
Speaker 1: to somebody yesterday about this, It's like, do I do
Speaker 1: I love Bryson? Now? Do I really love him for
Speaker 1: my job? Yes? And I think like when you think
Speaker 1: about Bryson, like life is Life's hard. The way he
Speaker 1: was entered into the game, it was with like all
Speaker 1: these high expectations and most importantly brand pushing this idea
Speaker 1: that he's changing golf. He's this innovator, he's all this,
Speaker 1: and you know, it was met with a lot of skepticism,
Speaker 1: a lot of hate. And you know, I certainly was,
Speaker 1: you know, one person that was pretty you know, outspoken,
Speaker 1: calling bullshit on some of the stuff that was being purported.
Speaker 1: But the I think, like you're seeing Bryson as he
Speaker 1: enters this, I think he's late twenties and that's when
Speaker 1: you is a person's start to figure out who you are.
Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't know who I was until like
Speaker 1: late twenties, early thirties. I was not like really sure
Speaker 1: what I was going to do with my life, what
Speaker 1: I was going to do, Like how I was socially,
Speaker 1: like who how I fit in you know everything? And
Speaker 1: I think that like when you talk about like, I
Speaker 1: don't think it get and I think like mental health.
Speaker 1: Obviously it's gotten a lot of run lately in sports,
Speaker 1: but there is this idea of like, I think one
Speaker 1: of the hardest things about being an athlete is like
Speaker 1: you're expected to be this person and every move you
Speaker 1: make is under a microscope at an age when you're
Speaker 1: still trying to figure out what life is and who
Speaker 1: you are. And I think with Bryson, like, I think
Speaker 1: I think the live thing honestly, like he took a
Speaker 1: big bag bag of money, got ostracized for it, and
Speaker 1: I think he was like shocked at that. But I think,
Speaker 1: like from and I'm guessing that, like, I just think
Speaker 1: that Bryson wants to be loved. I think that's like
Speaker 1: what at his core, he like wants people to like him,
Speaker 1: I believe, and you could you probably would remember. Wasn't
Speaker 1: there a quote one time where he was like, I
Speaker 1: was kind of shocked at the reaction of me going
Speaker 1: what happened? Was that him that said that, Uh yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Think it was on a I want to say it
Speaker 2: was on like a conference call or something. I do
Speaker 2: remember what you're talking about. I don't remember where when
Speaker 2: it was, though.
Speaker 1: But you think about that and and I you know,
Speaker 1: you grow the most as a person when you have
Speaker 1: these low moments, and for for professional athletes, especially at
Speaker 1: golfers that had our phenoms like Bryson, like, there aren't
Speaker 1: a lot of low moments in your life. And I think, like,
Speaker 1: I think think we're seeing the best version of Bryson. Like,
Speaker 1: am I going like do I want to hang out
Speaker 1: with him? Probably not? Would I like to talk to
Speaker 1: him about golf? Yeah, Like he's a very interesting person,
Speaker 1: but like I think you're starting to see the best
Speaker 1: version of him as a golfer, also the most aware
Speaker 1: as a person, and he's becoming himself. He's becoming comfortable
Speaker 1: being himself, and I think that is a really powerful
Speaker 1: thing for your golf game, when you are comfortable in
Speaker 1: your own skin, especially playing at majors championships. And I
Speaker 1: just think, like, you know, like for Bryson, like we
Speaker 1: could he has had an amazing career already. We we
Speaker 1: might look back and say, like the next five years
Speaker 1: might be the best part of his career, And I
Speaker 1: think that's not off the table. I think he's playing.
Speaker 1: I think from in terms of like who we as
Speaker 1: a golfer, he is a better player now than he
Speaker 1: was a while ago. Like even when he was winning,
Speaker 1: you know, even that US Open where he just bludgeoned,
Speaker 1: I think he was pretty one dimensional. I think he's
Speaker 1: got I think the YouTube stuff's really making him a
Speaker 1: better player.
Speaker 2: We've talked about YouTube improving your game, gestational periods, we've
Speaker 2: covered the we've run the game here. I think you're
Speaker 2: right about Bryson. I you know, I think it's actually
Speaker 2: I think you can make the case that it's more
Speaker 2: rare for a player of him in the type of
Speaker 2: spotlight that he was in to mature at a Rory
Speaker 2: or Speeth rate, and it's actually more common to mature,
Speaker 2: like to mature at a Bryson rate. Now. I think
Speaker 2: the thing that hurt him more than maybe some other
Speaker 2: guy like Tiger didn't mature really when he was that age.
Speaker 2: He just had people around him that protected him from
Speaker 2: the right things are from the wrong whatever however you
Speaker 2: want to say that. And Bryson, I don't know that
Speaker 2: he's had those people around him, and so he has
Speaker 2: just looked a lot worse and he's yeah, not self
Speaker 2: aware and all those different things. But I think it's
Speaker 2: very insightful for you to say, like, yeah, it's very
Speaker 2: hard to mature into who you're going to become, and
Speaker 2: even more so when you're in the spotlight, and even
Speaker 2: more so when you don't surround yourself with people that
Speaker 2: kind of save you from yourself.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I think like I when as I zoom
Speaker 1: out on Bryson's career, and I think we've gotten to
Speaker 1: the stage where it's possible and we've seen kind of
Speaker 1: different versions. Like the failing of Bryson early in his
Speaker 1: career were the brands and the people that were around
Speaker 1: him that didn't protect him from the brands and in himself.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: I think that's the thing is like when you you
Speaker 1: look back on every base career, there are elements and
Speaker 1: time where there are you know, you're going to have
Speaker 1: regrets on different things and they didn't handle things the
Speaker 1: right way, you know, And for Bryson it's going to
Speaker 1: be there was a period of time where like you
Speaker 1: didn't have the right people in his ear or he
Speaker 1: lost sight. I think like you have to blame him too.
Speaker 1: He lost sight of who the right people are because obviously,
Speaker 1: like he's rededicated to what got him there the last
Speaker 1: year and a half, and he talked about that a
Speaker 1: lot at last year's PGA Championship. One last thing, I
Speaker 1: think like we got to this point where it was
Speaker 1: like kind of everybody we felt like should have won
Speaker 1: a major, had won a major. I feel like this
Speaker 1: is like a constant ebb and flow with majors, where
Speaker 1: like people start to get one and it's like oh yeah,
Speaker 1: Like like when Sergio won, it's like, yeah, he deserved
Speaker 1: a major, right, yeah, you know, and it's like oh,
Speaker 1: Scotty got one, like well he belongs. And we've had
Speaker 1: like this run of different guys. But like, I feel
Speaker 1: like we've got the pen is starting to fill bad
Speaker 1: with people that haven't won majors, and you've got Hovelin,
Speaker 1: Xander can't lay, and I think it's way too early
Speaker 1: to put Ludwig in there, but he's going to naturally
Speaker 1: go in there just because of the talent level. You
Speaker 1: got Max Homa, who's playing really really great golf. Fee
Speaker 1: now yeah, So I think that's just one thing I
Speaker 1: have in mind is that I think that lately and
Speaker 1: and very well deserved. The focus of majors has been
Speaker 1: around a couple guys, and we haven't even mentioned John Rahm,
Speaker 1: who can't be happy you first mentioned a minute whatever
Speaker 1: sixty of this pod. There's sixty something of this pod,
Speaker 1: but we've kind of refilled the tank of guys that
Speaker 1: are are you know, really talented players without major championships.
Speaker 1: And I think that that's a you know, we I
Speaker 1: think first time major winners, when they're really well deserved
Speaker 1: first time major winners, there is always a fun story.
Speaker 2: Who is that? Is it Xander that's the most deserving
Speaker 2: major winner?
Speaker 1: I think, So what do you think? I mean, Hoblin
Speaker 1: was so good last year, but Xander's been so good
Speaker 1: for five years.
Speaker 2: Wellander, Xander, statistically, I think is the most deserving. I
Speaker 2: think if you actually watch golf, it's Hoblin's up there,
Speaker 2: Fleetwood's probably up there. Just in terms of like major play,
Speaker 2: like Xander's. I mean, we've talked about we've joked about
Speaker 2: it a bunch, but you know, he's got all these
Speaker 2: top tens at major's. But like when did have you
Speaker 2: ever thought, Oh, Xander's gonna win this major championship?
Speaker 1: Maybe the Open? Uh, Molinari's Open at seventeen eight eight eight.
Speaker 1: That was because Tiger Kissner Molinari.
Speaker 2: That's when Speed got the haircut. Yeah, I think and
Speaker 2: Xander were in. I think they were in the.
Speaker 1: Last Yeah, and he had that wasn't that it didn't
Speaker 1: he have the baby cry when he had that? Right?
Speaker 1: Remember that?
Speaker 2: I think that's right. And so he was in that one.
Speaker 2: That was actually one that Rory could have won. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he was with us four holes left.
Speaker 1: Rory has a million. He could have won if he
Speaker 1: went out in twenty seven.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I did love Joel Beel's sweet at the
Speaker 2: Master's happy if Rory goes out in twenty nine to
Speaker 2: all who celebrate day.
Speaker 1: So yeah, but yeah, I think Xander maybe, I I mean,
Speaker 1: Hoblin is recent, but I don't feel good about where
Speaker 1: he's at right now with his golf game. Seems like
Speaker 1: he's lost in the woods. I heard he moved back
Speaker 1: to Stillwater, did he?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he left the swamp.
Speaker 1: I think he's Oh, I did my so.
Speaker 2: My parents live in Stillwater and my dad said he
Speaker 2: saw him the other day at his at the place
Speaker 2: that he plays.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's back. I think he's back in
Speaker 1: still water. Okay, it was a short lived swamp experiment,
Speaker 1: just a tour. Do you know you know where he
Speaker 1: was staying in the swamp do you know? No? So
Speaker 1: you know, this guy made fifty million dollars, he decides
Speaker 1: decides to move to the to Jupiter and he was
Speaker 1: renting a room from Chris Ventura, really former teammate, former
Speaker 1: teammate player on the Corn Ferry tour. So this guy
Speaker 1: guy takes fifty million dollars last year and he's renting
Speaker 1: a room off his college.
Speaker 2: That's when that's what like Quhen Ricky and Cam Trngalli
Speaker 2: used to room together. Yeah, I think they used to
Speaker 2: live together in Florida.
Speaker 1: But did Ricky own the house? I mean, like I
Speaker 1: don't know, yeah, probably you would think that it would
Speaker 1: be the opposite that Chris Ventura's renting from.
Speaker 2: Vaders was Baby's trying to help him out. Maybe he
Speaker 2: was overpaying him or something.
Speaker 1: It's just an amazing It's just there's so many great
Speaker 1: Like Victor's just a normal dude stories, but a story.
Speaker 1: But like the idea that like anybody that's got you know,
Speaker 1: i mean, his net worth with sponsorships and everything's gotta
Speaker 1: be through the roof right now, and he moved. He
Speaker 1: decides he's moving somewhere and he moves in with his
Speaker 1: his former teammates and rents a room.
Speaker 2: There are there are. I was just thinking about still Water.
Speaker 2: He could buy like six hundred acres in still Water.
Speaker 2: He could buy like half the town. I did laugh.
Speaker 2: I forgot. I think it was Shargunstar where you guys
Speaker 2: talked about how Victor should have at the at the
Speaker 2: wrong club.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, down in the swamp.
Speaker 2: That's incredible.
Speaker 1: I love the idea of the other club president, the
Speaker 1: that just being like getting like a call and being
Speaker 1: like Victor Hoblin's here to beat with you, and being like, okay,
Speaker 1: sweet talk. I know basis of why he was there.
Speaker 2: I am bummed he's he is. I've talked to this
Speaker 2: a couple of people that it just feels like he's
Speaker 2: the lost boy right now. And that's a bummer. He
Speaker 2: was so I mean, I think you think back to
Speaker 2: a year ago he kind of stared Keopka in the
Speaker 2: eye and hit one bad shot, you know, on sixteen on.
Speaker 1: He kept waiting for him to fall apart, and he
Speaker 1: just never did until.
Speaker 2: The Yeah, yeah, yeah, that the getting out of the
Speaker 2: bunker on the fairway bunker on sixteen. He I thought
Speaker 2: he was really impressive, and it made me think, like, man,
Speaker 2: this guy's gonna win a major in the next two years.
Speaker 2: And then he just he went and tore everything down
Speaker 2: and he and his reasoning was insane. He was like, well,
Speaker 2: I just he almost He basically said I was playing
Speaker 2: too good. I didn't think that was sustainable. And you're like, well,
Speaker 2: that seems kind of fatalistic.
Speaker 1: Isn't this the isn't this why Scotty seems so sustainable?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Is that like when when you when somebody asks Scotty
Speaker 1: what he's working on, He's like, the same thing as always,
Speaker 1: same thing I've been working on for years, grip set up.
Speaker 1: It's like nothing can go wrong if you're if that's
Speaker 1: your mentality, if you know what you're working on, and
Speaker 1: it's all fundamental based like the idea of playing the
Speaker 1: best golf of your life. Like and this happens all
Speaker 1: the time in golf. It like there's there's dozens of
Speaker 1: these stories. It's like, I mean Tiger is an example
Speaker 1: of this. You get you're the greatest player in the
Speaker 1: world that it's not even closed and you decide to
Speaker 1: just like reinvent your golf swing. Yeah, I think, like
Speaker 1: this is a crazy phenomenon. You know, it's just speaks
Speaker 1: to the the you know, every I always get these.
Speaker 1: You always get the people that like, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not any good at golf. It's like, well, here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Victor Hoblin was probably the best player in the world
Speaker 1: in August, and he didn't think he was any good
Speaker 1: at golf and decided to reinvent himself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think this is actually a Scotty Like
Speaker 2: I think there's a point to be made about Scotty
Speaker 2: here where the footwork it looks crazy and you're like
Speaker 2: that he can't keep doing this, But it's actually the
Speaker 2: other way around. It actually keeps him from trying something
Speaker 2: else because it's so it's so like he owns it
Speaker 2: so much that he would be probably bad if he
Speaker 2: tried anything. It's almost like Jim Furick right where, Yeah,
Speaker 2: the swing is so wonky that he can't do anything
Speaker 2: like this is it? Like this is what it is.
Speaker 2: And I think you get these guys that are so
Speaker 2: obsessed with becoming better and so confident in their own
Speaker 2: ability to do so that they go down pass that
Speaker 2: they shouldn't be going down. We've seen it a million
Speaker 2: times and it helped. It helps guys like Scotty that
Speaker 2: they have this weird trait, this weird thing that they do,
Speaker 2: because it keeps them from those paths.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, yeah, it's uh, it's wild. All right,
Speaker 1: are you all out of things?
Speaker 2: I'm yeah, I emptied, the emptied the notebook.
Speaker 1: What who's your pick to win?
Speaker 2: Scotty?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna take Brooks just for variety's sake, very brave.
Speaker 2: The five time major winner.
Speaker 1: I do think it's a good Rory week. He's coming
Speaker 1: in playing well, it's always a good rory week.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, Either any of those three would be very
Speaker 2: historically cool. You know, like I think, if you, if you,
Speaker 2: if you're one of if you're us, you're in the media,
Speaker 2: you want something that's historically relevant and fun to write
Speaker 2: about and talk about and think about. And any of
Speaker 2: those three, whether it's the slam Rory getting finally getting
Speaker 2: his fifth or or Brooks getting too six, is is
Speaker 2: like really crazy. Any one of those storylines.
Speaker 1: The who would who's your worst carre scenario? Real legitimate
Speaker 1: worst case.
Speaker 2: Scenario, legitimate worst case scenario.
Speaker 1: Uh, Blockie, I think I mean, if Blockie, are you
Speaker 1: betting Blockie to make the cut or miss the cut? No?
Speaker 2: Miss miss miss h I think it is is it
Speaker 2: is it like a well, how legitimate does it have
Speaker 2: to be? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know that it's just a throwaway question.
Speaker 2: Like I think I think a Nick Taylor.
Speaker 1: That's there's no way.
Speaker 2: He's I mean he's he's really good.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't like, like, like is is
Speaker 1: tier there's like six guys that can win in this tournament?
Speaker 2: I agree, I mean that's what I've been saying.
Speaker 1: I think it's like Scottie, Rory Wyndham, Rom Ludwig Brooks,
Speaker 1: Bryson Bryson and then maybe Xander, like I Cam Young
Speaker 1: seems like he could win this thing too, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but like there aren't. I don't think there's a lot
Speaker 1: of people that can actually win. Yeah, and maybe I'm wrong,
Speaker 1: but like it's the old thing with Brooks what he
Speaker 1: used to say, which I think he got a lot
Speaker 1: of heat for it, But it's like the exact way
Speaker 1: that someone who's really good at golf thinks about golf tournaments. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so all right, Kyle, people read your people can read
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll we'll have a setout there with Rick Caymen
Speaker 2: and Joe Musso, who's our host. We'll be doing some
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Speaker 2: dump all the crazy, ridiculous fun stuff and I really
Speaker 2: enjoyed kind of the creativity that can happen there.
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