WEBVTT - Five Things About the 2024 PGA Championship with Kyle Porter 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.520 I miss a green, for example, I'm already upset. 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:04.920 When I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset. 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:06.320 And when I find my ball. 0:00:06.120 --> 0:00:09.319 In a Frida Egg Friday egg, the dreaded Friday Friday 0:00:09.560 --> 0:00:12.639 fridagg Frida Egg Bride Egg, Lie, I'm about ready to 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:37.320 run off of the Welcome back to another edition of 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:41.120 the Frida Egg Golf Podcast. I am your host, Andy Johnson, 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:45.320 and another major championship is upon us. It is the 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:49.320 PGA Championship week. Uh. We are gonna be heading to Valhalla. 0:00:49.440 --> 0:00:52.159 I'm actually not gonna be head into Valhalla, but the 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:55.320 world of professional golf is heading to Valhalla. Kyle Porter, 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:58.959 You're not heading to Valhalla, but we're gonna go there 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:02.240 in our minds today, get ready for the PGA Championship 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:06.040 with our typical five Things preview Kyle Porter of CBS 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:10.039 Sports as well as the normal Sporter a newsletter that's 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:14.520 well worth your subscription. And you know, my favorite thing 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:17.280 about having a free newsletter is telling people if they 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:21.160 don't like it, I'll refund them. But Kyle, welcome on 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:24.400 and thank you for joining me and chatting about the 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:27.480 PGA Championship. Are you ready for the second major of 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:27.840 the year. 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:31.000 I am. I actually am going to Valhalla, but I'm 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:33.320 going I'm going a little bit later. I'm going I 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:37.199 won't be there until Wednesday week of so just later 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:41.040 than the normal. I'm doing great. I'm very excited about 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:42.720 the second major of the year. I feel bad for 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:48.880 you because you had for your first five things about 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:52.279 the majors this year, a Master's champion, a former PGA 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:54.080 Tour winner, and now you have to deal with me 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:56.800 for the second one. So I apologize for that. 0:01:57.200 --> 0:02:00.760 Well, listen, I'm going for variety, different for you know, 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:03.320 people that excel at different things. You know, we could, 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:05.440 we could have a little bit more fun than than 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:08.400 the lead analysts that CBS can have on the pod. 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:11.079 You know, you're that's true. You're trying to You're trying 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:13.959 to make the variance between the handicaps of people that 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:16.919 you're having on as wide as as as humanly possible. 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:19.959 Well, I always enjoy our conversations. I don't for you know, 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:24.079 you know, there's this noomaclas, this uh, this belief that 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:27.520 you have to be so accomplished to talk about any sport. 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:30.400 You know, I don't think that's necessarily a true statement. 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:33.760 I think that no matter what your skill level on 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:36.200 the golf course, you know, it's it's fair if you 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:38.120 put the work in. And I think you know, one 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:40.079 of the things I respect about you, Kyle, is you 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:44.399 put in so much work in terms of preparation, research, 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:47.080 and you know, like I always like seeing your tweets. 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:50.679 I'm like, God, he's grinding on this stuff. So I 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:53.359 think if you, if you are a professional, which I 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:56.320 would say that you are very much a professional, uh, 0:02:56.720 --> 0:02:59.680 you know, in terms of a golf media personality, then 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:02.120 it doesn't matter how you play golf, it actually probably 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:05.480 helps you if you If you uh, if you aren't 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:07.880 as good, sometimes you think about things differently. 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:11.760 Yeah, no, I appreciate that. I think I think it 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:14.480 does help to be to come from outside of that 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:18.200 sort of world. It gives you a different viewpoint. I think, 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:20.760 what do you think about when we'll get into the 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:23.639 I know the five things here real quick, But what 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:26.239 do you think about when players, whether it's golfers or 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:28.400 you see this. I feel like in basketball and football 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:33.600 a lot where players complain about what media sometimes say 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:35.800 or write about them. They're like, oh, well, you never 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:38.520 you never did this, you never played you don't understand 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:42.480 like what do you have you noticed that? And like 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:43.360 what do you think about that? 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:46.880 I do think there is some of that in golf. 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:55.720 I you know, I think like we're seeing a buddy 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:57.640 of mine that I used to play pick up basketball 0:03:57.840 --> 0:04:02.520 with just wrote this book about out D three basketball 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:08.600 players who are are basically like running the NBA. There's 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:11.839 like a way was this a thread, Ben Catherine, Yeah, 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:15.280 Ben Cathlin, that was amazing. Yeah, But so he wrote 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:19.039 this book and it's like all about D three basketball 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:23.440 players that are now like there's this like huge amount 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:28.760 of people that are running the game of basketball that 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:34.479 didn't play professional basketball. And I think there's an aspect 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:39.960 of when you listen, like in golf, you're never going 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:42.440 to understand what it feels like to have a putt 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:45.880 for three million dollars or you know, a major championship. 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:49.280 But when you're short on skill, you know what that 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:54.800 usually usually makes people do. It makes them think work 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:59.600 harder and think more about how they can get somewhere right. Like, 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:03.960 So I think that's the flip side of that argument 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:08.320 where you need to have felt that well, like you 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:11.440 probably haven't thought about the sport as much as somebody 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:15.240 who played D three golf who was always wondering why 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:19.880 they weren't as good as you know, the phenom, and 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:23.000 because for the phenom, it's it's kind of like simple. 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.920 It's like what what DJ says about fades. It's like 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:28.200 you want to fade it. Make sure you fade it, 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:31.800 you know. For for someone not as skilled, they have 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:34.280 to really think about like the technical aspects of how 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:36.400 they're trying to hit a fade. They can't just naturally 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:40.120 do it. So I think there is like a I 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:44.360 think we're seeing it in across sports is that you know, 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:48.880 being a great player doesn't mean that you're a great 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:52.080 executive or a great analyst or a great mind. And 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:55.080 I think, you know, we're seeing it come. I mean, like, no, 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:58.720 laying Up's doing the simulcast this week. That's I think 0:05:58.760 --> 0:05:59.800 that's a huge step for. 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:05.120 Yeah. I think the thing that gets lost sometimes in 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:08.120 a lot of like not just golf, but basketball or 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:11.679 baseball or whatever, is those of us who are talking 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:15.159 or writing or thinking about the game for a living, 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:19.160 we're obviously not comparing you to uh, Like we're not 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:23.920 comparing I'm not comparing uh been like uh let's say, 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:27.280 let's just say Ben Griffin. Yeah, I'm not comparing his 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:31.600 game to mine, like obviously he's like five standard deviations 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:34.280 better than I am at golf, I'm comparing you to 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:39.520 Rory and more Cowa and Brooks, right, because that's like 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:44.360 I'm talking about this subset of of of people, not 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:48.560 like I think sometimes as analysts, and this happens on 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:53.200 TV a lot, you're like, like analysts or or broadcasters say, oh, 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:55.200 these guys are all so good. It's like we have 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:59.440 obviously like compared to you and I, they're unbelievable. But 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:02.360 that's not the game that we're playing. We're comparing them 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:04.720 to each other. And I think when you when you 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:07.159 look at it through that context and through that lens, 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:11.320 as long as you're fair and you're backing up. I 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:14.560 was talking to a caddy one time. It was like, hey, Brandle, 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:18.280 you know what, he says some crazy stuff sometimes, but 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:21.360 he also does a ton of research and I kind 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:24.840 of respect that. Like I I I think, as long 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:28.360 as you're fair and you're and people understand you're comparing players, 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:30.560 whether it's in the NBA or golf to each other, 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:34.120 I just I don't buy into the whole way. You 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:36.200 you've never been in this position. It's like, yeah, of 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:38.280 course that's why I'm sitting here writing about it instead 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:43.640 of playing. I uh yeah, exactly. I mean, like nobody 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:46.480 would choose to be writing or talking about a sport 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:50.240 versus being the athlete and the arena doing it right. 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:53.560 So there's always and that's what happens with the retired players. 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:57.160 I think like there's always that there's kind of that 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:00.480 friction between you know, like the friction with Shack and 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:03.280 what Charles Barkley, how they just let it, let it fly. 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:07.200 In the modern players, you know, like just say I 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:09.560 mean they just they just let it go. But it's 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:12.720 like there are different areas like of their lives, right, 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:17.520 I don't know. I want to be clear though I 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.200 said this. I met just said a tweet out about this. 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:24.520 I think you're the you're the ultimate member guest partner. Nope, 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:28.000 I've never played with the player of your skill level 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:32.000 that has the sheer power and the explosiveness that you have. 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:36.240 I mean, if if you're if you're an uncapped member 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:40.880 guest situation where you don't have the handicapped just uh discrepancy, 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:43.840 you want to win bring Kyle Porter because you're got 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:46.160 you got a guy that's got three thirty in the back. 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:50.079 We we uh, we can put my address in the 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:53.360 in the in the show show people people can send 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:57.160 me their their club and I'm well, ope will travel, 0:08:57.320 --> 0:08:57.720 I will. 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:00.120 Will get an RV. We'll just take the family on 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:03.120 the country and just hit hit up some clubs this summer. 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:06.360 That would actually be a great book idea. It's like 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:09.360 I hit the member guest circuit with my entire family 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:14.439 in an RV and I played all these all these 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:17.319 you know, all these different clubs memver guests. 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:24.760 That'd be amazing. Yeah, that would be insane. But yeah, 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:27.640 I'm I'm very very available. 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:31.520 All right. That's that's you know what the PGAF l 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:34.520 Halla gets. It gets an intro in about you know, 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:39.559 golf media and everything. Just a couple of housekeepings. The 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:44.360 last hosted twenty fourteen. Obviously, that was Rory's last major. 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:48.160 Rory beats Phil Ricky, Hendrik Stenson's on that leader board. 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:51.520 Other major championships it's hosted. It hosted the ninety six 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:57.040 PGA Mark Brooks beat Kenny Perry, the infamous two thousand 0:09:57.160 --> 0:10:01.800 PGA where Tiger and Bob May had their Showdown duel, 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:05.560 one of the most memorable tournaments in I mean forever, 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:10.520 that iconic moments. So golf course wise, not a ton 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:12.959 to be excited about. But we've seen this with the 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:17.520 PGA countless times. You know, golf course, you know, can 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:20.679 certainly help lift a championship, but is not dependent on 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:25.520 a championship. So, Kyle, we're doing our five things about 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:29.199 the PGA. What is your first thing or anything. It 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:30.880 doesn't have to be an order. None of mine are 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:33.200 in order. I got about seven or eight written down. 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:35.679 I'm gonna I'm gonna riff off yours here. 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:39.760 Yeah, I've got I've got six written down. I'm gonna 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:43.920 start actually with uh, I'm gonna start with the Live Boys, 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:47.000 all right, and this is one of mine. I think 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:53.520 that you know, we're at an interesting This shouldn't be 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:56.760 that big of a deal because I think the PGA 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:59.760 of America has done a good job of putting a 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:01.720 good field together. I think one thing that gets lost. 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:03.559 I was talking about this with somebody the other day. 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:06.360 A lot of these guys that got invited got these 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:10.040 special exemptions from the PJA of America into the event 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:12.559 that are on live. They were in the tournament last 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:16.360 year too, and you could argue, like, well they still 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:19.800 had they were still top hundred and OWGR back then. 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:22.640 It's like, well, yeah, but they were also like Taylor 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:25.760 Gooch got into the field, got an exempt, got invited 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:28.080 into the field last year, just like he did this year. 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:31.520 So I don't know that it's this grand statement by 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:34.679 the PGA of America, but I do think because of 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:39.480 what Gooch has sort of said, there's this weird spotlight 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:43.880 on the sort of middle to lower tier of live player, 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:48.079 the guys that aren't Brooks and Rom and Cam Smith, 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:51.079 who have all played well at this tournament in the 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:55.080 past couple of years. There's a spotlight on the Patrick Reids, 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:59.520 on the Taylor Gooches, and and I just I think 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:03.200 that's I don't know if it's fair, but it's brought 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:07.480 about because they talk a lot of trash about you know, 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:10.160 we need to be in the field where we're this 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:12.320 should be a thing, and it's like, well, okay, let's 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:15.199 see how we do, and in the first made kind 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:19.080 of the first really open big field major of twenty 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:19.640 twenty four. 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:23.679 Yeah, I agree with this. I think it's actually like 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:27.440 a moment for the other majors, whether it's the US Open, 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:30.400 the Open Championship, they get a chance to kind of 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:33.679 sit back and see what happens, and they get to 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:36.559 make their decisions. And I don't think it's necessarily like 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:39.439 a smart practice to react off of you know, what 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:42.360 happens one week of the year. But you know, there's 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:45.320 only four of these majors, so there isn't like an 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:49.520 opportunity to have like a wide ranging sample size to 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:54.800 to really like make a decision off of. But like 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:59.640 in the terms of like Burmester Gooch, you know, people 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:04.640 that you know don't technically qualify if they play well, 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:08.800 I have to think it will help their case for 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:12.480 other exemptions into whether it's the Open or the US Open, 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:16.040 if they play poorly. I don't know if it'll happen 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:21.560 negative impact, but I think it will be a like thing. 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:25.559 It's like, you know, hey, they didn't play well. We 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:28.920 still have this problem where it's like a top heavy 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:33.240 competition over there, the bottom of lives really bad. I mean, 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:35.719 I don't think Anthony Kim is helping the bottom of Live. 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:41.280 That being said, she want Kim be the worst player 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:44.600 and Live history. Maybe cut it. Last year's PGA. 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:49.400 The worst player and live history. What a statement. 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:53.520 I don't know. James Piatt I saw, I meant to 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:57.160 post this on Instagram. I saw James piot was like 0:13:57.280 --> 0:13:59.719 duking it and out on the Minor League Tour the 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:01.960 other day, and I just thought, man from the High 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:06.240 Flyers Phil Mickelson's team to minor league Tour in less 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:08.839 than a year, that's that's tough. That's got to be 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:13.040 a tough transition doing one day South Florida events against 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:15.599 many tour pros after you were you know, playing for 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:19.720 twenty million dollars a tournament with fifty four guys or whatever. 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:23.680 Yeah, it's it's that's brutal, you know. I think the 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:28.280 PGA Championship is also sort of uniquely positioned to invite 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:31.440 some of these live guys, right because the Masters is 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:36.640 obviously very small and has very specific and unique criteria 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:40.560 that opens. Are they set aside and right they set 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:44.600 aside like half the field right for qualifying in, and 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:48.480 the PGA is is like the one that the bottom 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:51.640 what fifth of the field fourth of the field is 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:54.440 kind of just I don't want to say filled in 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:58.560 guys randomly, but it's just it's just like kind of 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:02.720 filled in with whatever they decide. Remember at Kiola when 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:06.160 Ricky Ricky Fowler hadn't qualified and he got a special exemption, 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:12.360 and you're like, well, that felt like a sponsor exemption 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:16.000 almost right where where it's it's it was almost like 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:18.840 a tour event where you get these sponsored exemptions, which 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:23.920 I've come to really dislike. Specifically it's a signature events. 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:27.920 I think they're I think it's just not a great thing. 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:29.600 That's a whole different conversation. 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:33.000 But the PGA Championship is very should we talk about 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:33.920 signature events? 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:36.880 No, No, I do not want to. Uh. The PGA 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:39.720 Championship is very uniquely positioned to kind of have the 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:43.640 loudest voice in some ways on the live debate. And 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:47.840 I think they've I think they've handled it like fine, 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:50.400 I think they've I don't. I don't think they've invited 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:53.400 anybody egregious. And I think who they've invited has been like, yeah, 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:56.160 if if this was everybody was still together, these are 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:57.880 probably the players that would be in anyway. 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:03.440 Yeah. Yeah, I think there is like, uh, I mean, 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:06.440 these guys deserve to be in the field. Yeah, A 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:09.760 lot of them. I mean it's and I think we 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:12.160 need to like we've gotten to a point with professional 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:15.360 golf where you know, it's so turned up on side 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:19.520 upside down a lot of times. What the reasoning behind 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:23.160 anything it should be is does this make sense? And 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:26.720 I think this does make sense? 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I mean, if you 0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:58.359 go back ten years, like, who would imagine that I 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:01.159 prepared a couple things from twenty fourteen, you're ready for 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:03.640 ready to get in the time machine and go back 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:04.359 to twenty four I. 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:07.240 Don't know if I that feels like I mean, personally, 0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:09.760 it just feels like a lifetime. I mean I only 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:11.159 had like two kids then. 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:16.600 All right, So a couple things from twenty fourteen. It 0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:20.200 was like the it was really when Instagram started to 0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:24.560 pop up as like a real thing. So Instagram was 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:28.520 really taking hold in society, and you know how you 0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:31.760 know that Instagram was taking hold of what was happening then, 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:38.600 of the filters, the ice Bucket Challenge. Oh gosh, do 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:40.840 you remember the ice Bucket Challenge? 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:45.480 Yeah? That was the that was the Rory and what's 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:52.000 her name? Uh, Megan, Megan Markle? Oh Yeah you remember that? 0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:54.840 Yeah, I do, I do. I didn't even put that 0:19:55.000 --> 0:20:02.080 in there. Unbelievable, So yeah, Ice Bucket Challenge twenty fourteen. 0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:06.119 Other thing Hunger Games was really big in twenty fourteen. Wow, 0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:11.040 Taylor Swift's nineteen eighty nine album came out One Direction 0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:12.440 was a big thing. Still. 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:16.399 Then, I think Nile Horn's on tour more than some 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:19.360 guys that have their card or on tour. He's everywhere. 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:23.160 Bill Cosby happened in twenty fourteen. Wow. 0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:28.680 So yeah, I think this is obviously outside of You've 0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:32.840 got Scottie. I think this is the big story, right. 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:37.560 You got this guy that was seemingly headed to ten 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:41.840 and yep, I don't think it's crazy to see him 0:20:41.880 --> 0:20:46.639 get to six, seven, eight, possibly, you know, he ripped 0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:51.280 off four so quickly and in I think he's a 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:54.560 better player now than he was then. But to have 0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:58.160 him ten years removed, is it's to be the number 0:20:58.200 --> 0:20:59.120 one thing to watch here. 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:04.159 Yeah, I think there's I think there's three primary storylines 0:21:04.200 --> 0:21:06.520 at this event. You mentioned two of them at Scotti, Rory, 0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:08.680 and then I think Brooks going for six is I 0:21:08.720 --> 0:21:11.840 would throw in there as well. But the Rory thing, 0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:16.040 you know, I think the thing you know don't come 0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:20.359 to you and I for like objective Rory takes, but 0:21:20.600 --> 0:21:25.680 I think the thing that is worthy of critique for 0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:28.640 him is not It's not the last couple of years. 0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:31.560 I think people looked at at St Andrews and they 0:21:31.640 --> 0:21:34.560 looked at Lacc and they're like, dude, can't close. And 0:21:35.280 --> 0:21:38.320 that's not the takeaway. The takeaway from that is that 0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:41.639 from twenty fifteen to twenty twenty one, he gave himself 0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:45.960 so so so few chances to win major championships, and 0:21:46.080 --> 0:21:48.880 that that was like his age. I think twenty six 0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:56.240 to thirty two major run, man, that's your like major 0:21:56.320 --> 0:22:01.920 winning Historically, that's like a really great time maybe toward 0:22:01.960 --> 0:22:05.120 the like into your early thirties, to win major championships, 0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:08.399 and he gave himself almost no chances to do so. 0:22:08.560 --> 0:22:11.439 Twenty eighteen Masters kind of there might have been one 0:22:11.520 --> 0:22:13.680 or two others that were sort of in there, but 0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:19.680 I think that has been the real disappointment for him 0:22:19.760 --> 0:22:22.440 of the last ten years. Is that twenty fifteen to 0:22:22.520 --> 0:22:23.480 twenty twenty one run. 0:22:23.960 --> 0:22:26.040 You hear it in is when he talks about it, 0:22:26.480 --> 0:22:29.040 you know, like I'm giving myself so many more chances now. 0:22:30.640 --> 0:22:34.200 I think, like the thing that's challenging with Rory you 0:22:34.400 --> 0:22:37.760 when you look at this is I think a lot 0:22:37.800 --> 0:22:41.240 of people and it's another one that I think is 0:22:41.280 --> 0:22:43.960 a storyline here. But you look at someone like Jordan 0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:47.040 Speith and you're like, maybe he just played his best 0:22:47.119 --> 0:22:52.200 golf at age twenty three, you know, twenty two that 0:22:53.200 --> 0:22:55.720 I don't think you could look at Rory and the 0:22:55.840 --> 0:22:59.040 player he is now, the way he can play a 0:22:59.160 --> 0:23:03.239 lot of different yep, And I don't think you can 0:23:03.359 --> 0:23:06.119 look at it and say, like, you know what, he 0:23:06.280 --> 0:23:08.880 was just way better then, because I think he's better now. 0:23:09.040 --> 0:23:12.560 Which is the weird thing about this whole ten year drought, 0:23:13.160 --> 0:23:15.080 is that he has improved as a player. It's not 0:23:15.560 --> 0:23:18.080 It's not the typical golf story of like, oh, he 0:23:18.200 --> 0:23:21.840 had it then and he doesn't have it now. And 0:23:21.960 --> 0:23:27.439 I think I think there's like a one of the things, 0:23:27.520 --> 0:23:32.520 if I really I think he's giving himself more chances now, 0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:38.000 but by he is missing a little bit of the 0:23:38.160 --> 0:23:41.159 old Rory that put the gas pedal down and just 0:23:41.320 --> 0:23:42.560 went yeah. 0:23:42.880 --> 0:23:45.680 Fall Hall is a great example of that, right. It 0:23:45.800 --> 0:23:51.000 was Phil and Ricky fistbumping and Rory's pissed and Sean 0:23:51.200 --> 0:23:53.680 Sean Zaki is the tern. The other day he was 0:23:53.720 --> 0:23:56.520 so addicted to club toworreling that he would that he 0:23:56.560 --> 0:23:58.840 even Club torel bad shots and you're like, yeah, that 0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:01.800 was that was who he was. And he's talked about that, 0:24:02.119 --> 0:24:04.960 like he said, I think he did a Q and 0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:07.679 A with Jeff Shackelford that was really good for the quad. 0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:11.840 Yeah that was a Yeah, it was excellent. He said 0:24:12.520 --> 0:24:14.920 that was golf was my life, Like that was that 0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:18.760 was it. And he's like that's not true anymore, which 0:24:18.800 --> 0:24:23.360 I think is something that I've always it's hard to reconcile, 0:24:23.520 --> 0:24:25.959 right because I admire that about him as a person, 0:24:26.640 --> 0:24:31.040 that that's not his entire existence like some of these guys, 0:24:31.400 --> 0:24:37.280 but I think it can maybe prohibit him from you know, 0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:40.040 being what he was at Kiwa and what he was 0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:44.440 at you know, Congressional like some of these like six 0:24:44.560 --> 0:24:48.960 seven shot major championship wins. What's crazy? And you you've 0:24:49.000 --> 0:24:52.800 talked about this a lot elsewhere. The idea of being 0:24:53.040 --> 0:24:55.720 that good for that long that you could that you 0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:58.680 would even be a favorite to win majors ten years 0:24:58.720 --> 0:25:02.320 apart is really crazy. And I think if he's able 0:25:02.400 --> 0:25:04.639 to do it, like let's say he gets just six 0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:09.240 or seven even that's one of the I don't know 0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:13.000 if it's feel good in terms of his Phil Micholson 0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:15.440 good in terms of the longevity and the endurance there, 0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:19.000 But to me, it's it's kind of in the ballpark 0:25:19.080 --> 0:25:21.800 of something like that, where it's it's so hard to 0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:24.320 be that good for that long, and I think that's 0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:27.280 been a pretty underrated part of his career so far. 0:25:28.240 --> 0:25:33.440 The longevity is unbelievable, especially in this era where yeah, 0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:36.800 I was playing with I was playing golf with someone 0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:40.600 who's probably going to be on PGA Tour next year yesterday, 0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:44.440 and they were talking about, like listen, like everybody just 0:25:44.600 --> 0:25:47.879 wants to make money and be done, you know, and 0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:52.159 I think, like to have that long career now it 0:25:52.359 --> 0:25:54.119 used to be so much like, well, I'm going to 0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:57.440 keep making money because I want to retire to this lifestyle, 0:25:57.560 --> 0:26:00.240 like especially right now in pro golf. Like you see, 0:26:00.440 --> 0:26:02.640 like the money these guys, I mean, Victor Hovlin made 0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:04.400 what fifty million dollars or something. 0:26:04.520 --> 0:26:06.360 He twenty six, He could be done. 0:26:06.760 --> 0:26:10.920 Yeah, like that used to be an extraordinary career he 0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:11.800 did in a year. 0:26:13.119 --> 0:26:13.320 You know. 0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:19.280 The with the money that's there, it's not. Longevity now 0:26:19.480 --> 0:26:26.040 is a combination of competitiveness, passion for the game, and talent, 0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:30.480 which it's never been that because you know, when Hogan 0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:33.480 or Nicholas was playing, you were playing no matter what 0:26:33.640 --> 0:26:37.320 as long as you could to maximize those earnings. Right, Like, 0:26:37.480 --> 0:26:41.639 these guys are getting to retirement sums of money so 0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:45.440 early in their career, like retire and live life exactly 0:26:45.520 --> 0:26:48.240 how you want to live life. Yeah, sums of money. 0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:52.440 It's so early that, like the longevity thing, it's it's 0:26:52.600 --> 0:26:54.880 more impressive now than it's ever been. 0:26:55.720 --> 0:26:58.040 I agree. I mean I used to say this about 0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:03.399 so I used to cover college basketball college football, and 0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:05.959 people used to say, like, oh, those college kids, they 0:27:06.040 --> 0:27:10.080 just love the game. And it's like, no that, I mean, 0:27:10.520 --> 0:27:12.879 maybe they do. The guy that really loves such a 0:27:13.000 --> 0:27:15.920 cliche for sure. But the guy that really loves the 0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:19.200 game is Kevin Durant, is Steph Curry, is Lebron who 0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:23.640 have made a collective seven hundred and eighty million dollars 0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:26.639 just on the court or whatever the number is, and 0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:30.240 are still grinding and playing and getting after it. Like, 0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:32.000 those are the guys that really love the game. And 0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:35.400 I think I think that Rory is one of those 0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:39.080 types of guys that really does. I mean, his his 0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:43.520 like what he values is different now at thirty five 0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:46.320 than at twenty five. But I think his love for 0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:50.240 the game is even greater if that, I think those 0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:52.440 two things can coexist, and I think that they do 0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:53.000 with him. 0:27:54.040 --> 0:27:56.359 Yeah, yeah, all right, what's the next one of your list? 0:27:57.119 --> 0:28:02.920 So I've got is Wyndham Clark for real? And so 0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:04.639 I think there's a couple of things here. One of 0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:06.639 cars the number three player in the world, and I 0:28:06.720 --> 0:28:07.320 don't know that. 0:28:08.400 --> 0:28:11.760 I don't know if people can we just adjust that 0:28:11.960 --> 0:28:15.920 down to four for the just for the live community 0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:17.600 that will yell about John Rahm. 0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:25.400 Okay, four, he's a top five player. And I don't 0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:27.240 know how many of the live community is listening to 0:28:27.560 --> 0:28:29.320 Andy Johnson, co Ar or Friday. 0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:33.680 Probably a lot of them. Hater's hate is a is 0:28:33.760 --> 0:28:37.000 a wonderful listening mechanism for sure. 0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:41.880 Hate listen. Uh. Wyndham Clark has had I mean, if 0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:45.400 not for Scotty Scheffler, he could have four wins this year, right, Yeah. 0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:48.960 And I think that you guys talked about this a 0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:51.000 little bit off and on, Like if you look at 0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:53.920 the last eighteen months, like you go back to the 0:28:53.960 --> 0:28:58.840 beginning of twenty twenty three, he's been one of like 0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:01.600 unequival one of the three or four best guys in 0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:05.440 the world from not only the consistency but also the 0:29:05.520 --> 0:29:08.680 play at major championships. And I think that, you know, 0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:12.400 people don't love him for whatever reason, whether they think 0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:15.960 that he's I don't know. There are several reasons maybe 0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:20.640 to not like him. But I think we're kind of 0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:25.040 underrating what he is or could be. And this is 0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:28.400 the type of this is actually the type of setup 0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:31.640 Andy at a PGA that I think fits him better 0:29:32.320 --> 0:29:35.800 than like a US Open, which he wont at lacc I. 0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:39.520 He's so his his I was looking at the numbers 0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:41.640 the other day. He averages like one eighty six ball 0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:44.640 speed off the tee or one eighty five. Maybe it's 0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:48.120 something insane, and at a big ballpark like Balhalla, it 0:29:48.240 --> 0:29:50.960 just seems like that's the type of thing that plays 0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:56.960 into his hands very well. If he can keep driver 0:29:57.480 --> 0:29:59.240 on the planet, I think that's the one thing where 0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:01.760 it's like, okay, lic is maybe a little bit more open, 0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:05.040 so maybe that helps him out. But I just I 0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:08.120 think he's in the middle, potentially in the middle of 0:30:08.160 --> 0:30:09.800 a run that we'll look back on and say, man, 0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:13.240 that was that was really impressive. And it got overshadowed 0:30:13.240 --> 0:30:16.120 a little bit by all the LIVEPGA tour stuff and 0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:17.120 by Scotti Schufflor. 0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:29.400 All right, let's take a quick break to talk about 0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:34.040 our partner, Goodwalk Coffee. 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Do you think or even 0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:15.720 I think even like John Rahm, Like, do you think 0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:19.920 that is the more the the precipice of like, why 0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:23.920 people aren't that into them is because it's just they 0:33:23.960 --> 0:33:26.280 aren't the guys that they really want to win. 0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:32.920 Possibly by that, do you mean they weren't prodigies like 0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:37.120 because because yeah, Wyndham and Scotty were both very very 0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:41.280 good amateurs, but they weren't like Rory was a prodigy, right. 0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:42.560 And Speed was a prodigy. 0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:45.600 Rom was up there too, and so it's almost like 0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:49.800 they they they've come in a little bit later, even 0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:53.840 though it's still early by most PGA, by most professional 0:33:53.920 --> 0:33:57.440 golf career standards, and people are like, wait a second, 0:33:57.440 --> 0:33:59.240 who are you again? Is that like is that what 0:33:59.320 --> 0:33:59.840 you're getting a. 0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:05.880 Yeah, I think I just think that there's there's like 0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:09.280 five golfers that people are fans of. It's like Tiger 0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:15.960 phil Ry, Jordan Speeth, Yeah, John Daly, I think is 0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:18.040 he playing? Is he? Is he still in this? 0:34:18.680 --> 0:34:24.200 I think so, I don't know. I I look up 0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:27.759 the field, but. 0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:31.320 Yeah, there's there's only a handful of players that have 0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:36.120 real fans. Yeah, so I think when anyone outside of 0:34:36.200 --> 0:34:41.800 those people win, it's like I like, I don't like 0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:46.440 this guy, yeah, or like nobody cares about him. I 0:34:46.520 --> 0:34:49.640 think it'd be a hard thing to be one of 0:34:49.680 --> 0:34:52.279 the ten best players in the world at something and 0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:55.120 realize that like the greater interests of the sport doesn't 0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:55.960 really care about you. 0:34:57.239 --> 0:34:59.200 Well, I mean, this was such a thing in tennis 0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:01.600 for so long, right where you could have been the 0:35:01.680 --> 0:35:05.440 fifth best guy and people are like what who you 0:35:05.520 --> 0:35:06.080 don't even know? 0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:08.640 Like it was like Andy Murray and who else was 0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:10.160 the you know outside it was. 0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:14.279 Like it was like stan Lavrinka, I can't ever say 0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:19.759 his last name, Uh yeah, the Potrow, Martin del Potrow, right, 0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:24.560 and just guys. Then you're like, this guy's literally like 0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:28.160 one of the best that's ever done this, and. 0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:32.600 People are like, where's he from again, because the other 0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:34.800 three are such larger than life figures. 0:35:35.239 --> 0:35:37.360 Yeah, I think there's I think there's for sure some 0:35:37.480 --> 0:35:39.640 of that. I think. I don't know, man, I think 0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:42.240 about I think a lot about why do I actually 0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:45.880 think about this question of why do people? Why do 0:35:46.080 --> 0:35:49.799 fans like a specific person more than another? I think 0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:52.600 about that idea a lot, and I think there's some 0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:56.680 intangibles there that you just like, a like almost like 0:35:56.719 --> 0:35:59.719 an aura or a presence. I'm reading this this Mickey 0:35:59.800 --> 0:36:02.520 Man biography right now, that's very good by this woman 0:36:02.600 --> 0:36:05.520 named Jane Levy. I hope I'm pronouncing that right. But 0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:08.640 there's a great quote in there where one of his 0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:12.680 teammates said his aura had an aura, and I think 0:36:12.719 --> 0:36:14.640 that's true with some of these guys. It's like, well, 0:36:14.680 --> 0:36:17.960 what like Jordan Speed, there's nothing special about you know. 0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:20.200 You look at Jordan Speith and you don't think like, 0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:23.479 you know, you look at Tiger and you're kind of like, okay, 0:36:23.600 --> 0:36:30.040 I get it, Like he like from breaking some race barriers, 0:36:30.160 --> 0:36:33.240 from being like a let like all this stuff. Speed 0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:35.200 is just like a normal looking white dude that's really 0:36:35.280 --> 0:36:37.040 that was really good at golf at a young age. 0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:41.800 But there's some there's something intangible there that's impossible to 0:36:41.880 --> 0:36:45.680 explain that I feel like plays into the way that 0:36:45.800 --> 0:36:48.560 we think, root for and and talk about some of 0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:49.040 these guys. 0:36:50.560 --> 0:36:54.520 Yeah, I I would agree with that. And then you know, 0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:59.200 to your greater Windham point, I mean, the guy's been incredible, 0:36:59.840 --> 0:37:02.480 and I agree that this is a great fit for him. 0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:05.960 And if you're you know, I always like to like, 0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:08.239 it's like the back of the napkin. If you just 0:37:08.280 --> 0:37:11.280 wrote down your favorites here, I think it would go Scheffler. 0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:14.759 And then in that number two spot, like it's not 0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:19.040 crazy to have Wyndham there, which is you know, sixteen 0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:22.319 months ago if you said this to you, is if 0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:27.120 I said this to you, you'd be like, that's absolutely bananas. Yes, yeah, 0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:30.680 So I think this is a great spot for him. 0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:34.840 I think really like I mean what you said is like, 0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:37.839 without Scottie around, this guy would be the guy might 0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:42.520 be number one in the world. I know, all right, 0:37:43.560 --> 0:37:47.200 we've talked about him. He's going for the career Grand Slam. 0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:50.879 I did not have this on my list. I don't 0:37:50.920 --> 0:37:52.120 think it's worthy of being a. 0:37:52.280 --> 0:37:54.120 This is a little I just have it because this 0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:56.759 is are we at the lowest buzz moment ever for 0:37:56.920 --> 0:37:59.920 a career Grand Slam? Like is Phil at the u 0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:02.600 US Open at Pinehurst's gonna have more buzz for a 0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:03.880 career Grand Slam than this? 0:38:04.480 --> 0:38:07.080 Well, there was one I think it was Beth Page 0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:11.440 where it was like, yeah, there's there's and then that 0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:14.080 he actually finished like T three, T three. I have 0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:14.759 that in here. 0:38:15.800 --> 0:38:18.120 I mean he had so he had the whistling straight second, 0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:20.640 which was like a duel him and Jason. That was 0:38:21.080 --> 0:38:25.520 Rockham epic, epic tournament, and that was speed at the 0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:29.440 height of his powers, and probably you know and Jason 0:38:29.520 --> 0:38:31.239 Day really at the height of his power. That was 0:38:31.320 --> 0:38:34.359 it was a great, great tournament. And then you got 0:38:34.400 --> 0:38:38.919 the completely non competitive Beth Page. I think he led 0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:41.640 this the field in like strokes game, putting by like 0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:45.200 an absurd number and finished like seven shot shots back. 0:38:45.360 --> 0:38:47.240 I think that might have been like the very start 0:38:47.280 --> 0:38:48.480 of my justin guy take. 0:38:48.719 --> 0:38:52.880 I remember, I think he played with I think he 0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:55.960 played with Brooks on Saturday because they I think he 0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:58.080 somehow got into the final pair and I don't think 0:38:58.160 --> 0:39:01.040 I think he was like T two and I remember 0:39:01.120 --> 0:39:03.839 following them thinking like, this guy doesn't even know where 0:39:03.880 --> 0:39:06.080 the center of the club face. He is much less 0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:08.880 like is he able to find it? I mean it 0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:12.560 was shocking how bad he hit it and how good 0:39:12.680 --> 0:39:17.640 he scored. So yeah, I think there have been other 0:39:19.640 --> 0:39:22.719 events that he's PGA's that he's entered with a lack 0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:24.680 of buzz, but this is down there, I think with 0:39:25.680 --> 0:39:26.200 all of them. 0:39:26.920 --> 0:39:30.480 Last four PGAs T seventy one, T thirty, T thirty four, 0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:35.520 T twenty nine, So pretty lackluster since that Beth Page 0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:38.040 kind of rab it out of the hat. But just 0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:42.759 in general, I for a big name player going for 0:39:42.880 --> 0:39:47.840 the career Grand Slam, yeah nothing, Phil have more buzz 0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:48.800 at Pinehurst. 0:39:49.840 --> 0:39:53.000 Yeah, well I just I I'll go ahead and mention 0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:55.560 my next one, this is this is my third one, 0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:57.560 because I think it plays into what you're talking about. 0:39:58.680 --> 0:40:02.520 I think PGAs have become a very like the PGA 0:40:02.560 --> 0:40:05.279 of America has a type if if if we want 0:40:05.280 --> 0:40:06.719 to say it like that, and what I mean by 0:40:06.760 --> 0:40:11.640 that is is golf course. You know, they've started going 0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:16.440 to these like big, brawny, beefy, you know, built up 0:40:16.600 --> 0:40:21.280 rough golf courses, and that's not great for Jordan Speth, 0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:21.920 you know. 0:40:22.000 --> 0:40:23.720 It pretty narrows. 0:40:24.360 --> 0:40:27.080 Yeah, it lessens the the I think the number of 0:40:27.160 --> 0:40:30.200 guys that could potentially win the tournament, which I think 0:40:30.280 --> 0:40:34.360 can be actually good for your brand overall for the 0:40:34.440 --> 0:40:36.800 casual fan because they want to see the Brooks and 0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:40.960 the Hovelin and the Shuffler and the Rory. But it's 0:40:41.239 --> 0:40:44.560 it's I don't know that it's great for the game specifically, 0:40:44.680 --> 0:40:46.480 and I and I definitely don't think it's good for 0:40:46.600 --> 0:40:50.239 Jordan Speith and his You know, we haven't talked about 0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:52.160 it a ton. I know it's been talked about behind 0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:54.480 the scenes, but I think the risk thing is not 0:40:54.680 --> 0:40:57.560 nothing and to and to be at a at a 0:40:57.880 --> 0:41:01.040 tournament like this where Rough grown up and you're just 0:41:01.160 --> 0:41:04.359 kind of hacking. Sometimes I don't maybe they won't grow 0:41:04.400 --> 0:41:05.719 it up like they did at Oak Hill. I haven't 0:41:05.719 --> 0:41:08.040 seen any we haven't gotten our first rough video yet, 0:41:08.200 --> 0:41:11.120 but come out. I just got right around the corner. 0:41:11.200 --> 0:41:15.319 It might might be out before this is released. I don't. 0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:18.040 I don't see this as being a very good fit 0:41:18.120 --> 0:41:18.800 for Jordan. 0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:22.960 Sped Yeah, I I don't. I don't see it being 0:41:23.000 --> 0:41:25.920 a good fit. I just and I do think I 0:41:26.000 --> 0:41:29.640 do agree with your your take care about the about 0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:34.000 the type. I mean, there's there's some golf course similarities, 0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:38.520 but you know, I think it's the Carry Hague era 0:41:38.680 --> 0:41:40.840 of setup. And I think he gets a lot of 0:41:40.960 --> 0:41:47.040 credit for the championships he produces and the the fairness 0:41:47.360 --> 0:41:51.520 and you know all that. But I will say that 0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:55.920 like there is no evolution. It's it's kind of the 0:41:56.000 --> 0:41:59.680 same playbook you're in year out. And I think like 0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:02.719 side of like I think you put like Kyowa kind 0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:05.680 of in its own box and Southern Hills. I thought 0:42:05.760 --> 0:42:09.400 Southern Hills was great too in terms of like variety 0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:12.200 of golf courses, but now we're heading into this this 0:42:12.760 --> 0:42:17.279 murderer's row here of Valhalla and Quail Hollow, where you know, 0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:20.759 you know what you're gonna get. And and I think 0:42:20.840 --> 0:42:24.239 the PGA, in a sense, like you have your it's 0:42:24.360 --> 0:42:27.960 like a souped up PGA Tour event, right, it kind 0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:31.360 of feels like what the Players wants to be, you know, 0:42:31.880 --> 0:42:36.479 a major that's really just a bigger PGA Tour event. 0:42:37.400 --> 0:42:41.160 But I would argue that the Players has more going 0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:44.000 for it in terms like from that standpoint than the 0:42:44.080 --> 0:42:47.000 PGA because it's got I think. 0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:51.880 It's the recognizability of the course. 0:42:52.400 --> 0:42:55.720 Yeah, and I think TPC Sawgrass can offer more variety 0:42:55.840 --> 0:42:58.880 than some sometimes not than Kiowa or Southern Hills. I 0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:01.680 agree with you on those. But you go Oakhill, Valhalla 0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:04.040 and kual Holla right in a row, and it's like, 0:43:04.640 --> 0:43:06.439 is that kind of just all the same golf course 0:43:06.520 --> 0:43:10.719 in different locations? You know that that can be what 0:43:10.880 --> 0:43:14.560 it what it feels like at times. What about Harding Park, 0:43:14.800 --> 0:43:16.000 I'm not as deep. 0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:19.160 On Harding Park. I think Harding Park would fill a 0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:23.520 file under this type of golf course. Okay, Valhalla very 0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:27.400 you know, like from an architectural features thing like Harding 0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:32.520 Parks like about rough its rough and heavy air. Yeah, 0:43:32.920 --> 0:43:37.560 and you know I think like here you've got you know, 0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:40.839 some hazards, some bunkers, but it's going to be it's 0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:44.319 an execution tournament. And I think that's you know, I'll 0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:46.600 go to go to one of mine. Here we're just 0:43:46.800 --> 0:43:48.880 knocking these down. That's the thing when you when you 0:43:48.920 --> 0:43:51.520 don't have, when you're not you know, Trevor, you know 0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:55.640 he's we're just flowing going one to one. You know, 0:43:55.960 --> 0:43:58.200 you brought up Trevor and this is this is what 0:43:58.360 --> 0:44:02.439 media for. We're two media pros here. We're just going 0:44:02.520 --> 0:44:07.120 knocking down down things here. But the uh, I'll say, 0:44:07.239 --> 0:44:10.000 like this is you know, the Brooks Kopka right when 0:44:10.040 --> 0:44:12.840 we when we start to zoom out of like the 0:44:12.920 --> 0:44:17.800 Brooks Kopka archetype is he's got the chance to go 0:44:17.920 --> 0:44:20.960 down as the greatest PGA player of all time, which 0:44:21.040 --> 0:44:23.080 I don't know what that means at the grand scheme 0:44:23.120 --> 0:44:25.360 of things. I think I think anybody would want to 0:44:25.400 --> 0:44:29.160 be the best Masters player, the best Open Championship player, 0:44:30.000 --> 0:44:32.320 But like you know, he's got three of these things. 0:44:32.960 --> 0:44:35.359 It feels like a really good chance for number four, 0:44:35.600 --> 0:44:39.400 with him winning the live event last week and seemingly 0:44:39.719 --> 0:44:42.960 turning some turning some corners with this form, I think 0:44:43.040 --> 0:44:45.560 he's got to be in your your first five favorites, 0:44:45.600 --> 0:44:49.319 first three favorites really and like you start to look 0:44:49.360 --> 0:44:51.719 at it. If he gets another one, it's Jack with five, 0:44:51.880 --> 0:44:54.840 Walter Hagen with five, which Walter Hagen was playing in 0:44:55.080 --> 0:44:58.120 when there's match play, and then you got Tiger with four, 0:44:58.239 --> 0:45:00.800 and Brooks is right there, like you know, this is 0:45:01.520 --> 0:45:05.200 this is an insane thing. He's going for the sixth major. 0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:09.360 He's doing it in a completely different way than anybody 0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:12.120 we've ever seen. We've never seen somebody with such low 0:45:12.280 --> 0:45:16.640 volume of winds was such a high volume of major winds, right, 0:45:17.239 --> 0:45:20.880 And I just think these the one of the things 0:45:21.000 --> 0:45:23.400 like we could zoom out twenty years from now and 0:45:23.520 --> 0:45:27.440 be like, you know what, like Carrie Haig just you know, 0:45:27.640 --> 0:45:32.400 his setup philosophy was just Taylor made for Brooks Koepka. 0:45:32.600 --> 0:45:35.400 And I think there's also some intangibles there with Brooks, 0:45:35.440 --> 0:45:40.440 his demeanor, his his attitude, his and a lot of 0:45:40.520 --> 0:45:45.080 it his talent. But these tournaments just like I mean, 0:45:45.200 --> 0:45:48.799 this one just seems to be just absolutely perfect for him. 0:45:49.400 --> 0:45:55.160 Yeah, for sure, carry Haig Brooks, the Brooks whisperer. Seriously, 0:45:55.760 --> 0:45:59.480 I think the oh you mentioned the three guys that 0:45:59.560 --> 0:46:03.360 have won four or more PGAs Tiger, Jack and Walter Hagen, 0:46:03.960 --> 0:46:06.640 I've got another number for you here. Since nineteen eighty 0:46:07.600 --> 0:46:10.839 so that's what last forty almost forty five years, only 0:46:10.920 --> 0:46:13.279 one golfer has won six majors by age thirty four, 0:46:15.160 --> 0:46:19.319 and obviously that's Tiger and Brooks just turned thirty four. 0:46:21.239 --> 0:46:22.640 You know the thing that I wrote about Hm last 0:46:22.680 --> 0:46:26.120 year after you wanted okill was you know he joined. 0:46:26.680 --> 0:46:29.160 I think it's a group of twenty guys that had 0:46:29.160 --> 0:46:32.160 won five majors, and twenty is just you know, I wrote, 0:46:32.200 --> 0:46:34.680 five majors is so many and twenty guys is so few. 0:46:34.880 --> 0:46:38.800 Like it's just so like every level now is a 0:46:39.000 --> 0:46:45.080 different I mean, he's he's a couple away from Arnold Palmer, which. 0:46:44.920 --> 0:46:45.319 Is just. 0:46:47.040 --> 0:46:49.480 Crazy at his age. I mean, this is the age 0:46:49.520 --> 0:46:53.160 that Phil started winning majors and Phil got to six. 0:46:53.280 --> 0:46:55.080 Now do I think Brooks is going to have the 0:46:55.480 --> 0:46:59.239 career longevity of Phil. I don't. But I think he 0:46:59.320 --> 0:47:02.560 said something after heone lived Singapore, Indy, and that was 0:47:03.880 --> 0:47:06.399 he talked about. He gave this quote about how I'm 0:47:06.440 --> 0:47:08.520 willing to go to a place that not a lot 0:47:08.560 --> 0:47:11.480 of other guys are willing to go. And that can 0:47:11.560 --> 0:47:14.760 come off a little bit as you know, just Brooks 0:47:14.800 --> 0:47:17.680 being Brooks and saying his cocky stuff and whatever. But 0:47:17.760 --> 0:47:24.120 I do think that his willingness to enter a mentality 0:47:24.160 --> 0:47:27.960 of committedness and discipline to each shot at the majors 0:47:28.800 --> 0:47:32.160 is really admirable. And I kind of theorize the other day, 0:47:32.920 --> 0:47:36.840 does his willingness does the energy he expends on committing 0:47:36.880 --> 0:47:39.480 to every shot and being that focused at major championships 0:47:39.760 --> 0:47:42.719 almost take away from like he's just unwilling to go 0:47:42.800 --> 0:47:45.279 to that place at other tournaments, which is why he 0:47:45.440 --> 0:47:49.520 doesn't win as much. And I think that might be 0:47:49.640 --> 0:47:51.920 the case. Like I think he's just unwilling to expend 0:47:51.960 --> 0:47:54.759 that energy, mental or emotional or whatever it is at 0:47:54.840 --> 0:47:59.440 majors at a random well, formerly a random PGA Tour 0:47:59.480 --> 0:48:00.560 event and now live event. 0:48:01.160 --> 0:48:03.800 It's it's similar to like what we see with playoff 0:48:03.960 --> 0:48:08.400 basketball and playoff hockey, right, Like everybody like, oh, playoff 0:48:08.440 --> 0:48:13.160 hockey is the best. Nobody could play playoff hockey like 0:48:13.320 --> 0:48:18.080 this for an entire season, correct, And maybe that's that's 0:48:18.480 --> 0:48:21.319 just the way it is. Same with playoff baseball, same 0:48:21.400 --> 0:48:25.560 with I mean the NBA, Like just the the attention 0:48:25.719 --> 0:48:30.239 to detail, possession to possession that these guys have in 0:48:30.360 --> 0:48:33.279 the NBA playoffs is just at a whole different level. 0:48:33.520 --> 0:48:37.120 And the intensity is I think that's that's the thing. 0:48:37.200 --> 0:48:39.920 And I think there's like there's also an aspect of 0:48:40.040 --> 0:48:42.359 golf is that there are there are people that when 0:48:42.400 --> 0:48:46.279 that intensity ramps up, do turtle a little bit. And 0:48:46.400 --> 0:48:50.440 there's also the as the intensity raps ramps up in golf. 0:48:50.560 --> 0:48:52.960 One of the things that I always appreciate is that 0:48:53.080 --> 0:48:58.279 it always always shows the weaknesses of players, and I 0:48:58.320 --> 0:49:03.440 think when you look at Brooks, he's extraordinarily well rounded. 0:49:03.840 --> 0:49:05.919 He might not be the best driver of the golf ball, 0:49:06.160 --> 0:49:09.680 the best iron player, the best short game player, or 0:49:09.760 --> 0:49:13.680 the best putter, but when it comes to putting all three, 0:49:13.840 --> 0:49:16.759 all four of those aspects of the game together, there 0:49:16.800 --> 0:49:19.880 are very few people that have as few. You know, 0:49:20.080 --> 0:49:23.160 there's no holes. You know, the putter was an issue 0:49:23.239 --> 0:49:26.800 when he couldn't practice or crouch down to read putts, 0:49:26.840 --> 0:49:29.640 But like I mean, like when he gets going on 0:49:29.960 --> 0:49:33.239 in a major run, the putter is just it's one 0:49:33.280 --> 0:49:35.279 of the best things he has. Is that that like 0:49:35.400 --> 0:49:38.759 he just he failed. He always he just never gives 0:49:38.840 --> 0:49:42.719 stuff away when he's going and and it's just that 0:49:42.880 --> 0:49:45.759 all around talent. You see it with Scotti too, is 0:49:46.120 --> 0:49:49.279 that like if you do everything really well, it's hard 0:49:49.320 --> 0:49:53.440 to play poorly when especially when the when the level 0:49:53.640 --> 0:49:59.040 of setup and and competition goes up. So I think 0:49:59.120 --> 0:50:04.040 with Brooks, like he always talks about how he's an athlete, 0:50:04.200 --> 0:50:07.319 maybe his approach to golf is just that like I'm 0:50:07.360 --> 0:50:11.359 not going to expend all my energy winning this event 0:50:11.440 --> 0:50:13.480 that I don't really care about because I know I 0:50:13.600 --> 0:50:15.360 need in the long run, I need to save it 0:50:15.440 --> 0:50:16.200 for the majors. 0:50:16.600 --> 0:50:18.600 Yeah, I think that's I mean, I've tried to come 0:50:18.680 --> 0:50:23.080 up with ways to explain it because it's historically inexplicable. 0:50:23.120 --> 0:50:25.680 It just doesn't. It doesn't if you win this many majors, 0:50:25.960 --> 0:50:29.000 you win at a clip like Rory, which is twenty 0:50:29.040 --> 0:50:31.600 five times on the PGA Tour. Right, and do you 0:50:31.680 --> 0:50:34.960 remember a Kioa when I compared him to Eddie Tobbense 0:50:35.160 --> 0:50:38.200 when he was spotting down catching reading putts. And then 0:50:38.360 --> 0:50:42.839 Eddie Tobbinsey's wife reached out to me on Twitter. She did, Yeah, 0:50:42.960 --> 0:50:47.600 she said, she said, hey, Eddie's she tweeted this. It 0:50:47.760 --> 0:50:51.440 was extraordinary, one of my favorite Twitter moments ever. She said, Hey, 0:50:51.719 --> 0:50:54.320 my husband's not on Twitter, but he just he appreciates 0:50:54.360 --> 0:50:56.920 that somebody remembers his career. He's out. All he does 0:50:57.040 --> 0:50:58.920 is fish now. So I'll tell him that you said. 0:50:58.760 --> 0:51:08.719 That amazing what had been saying moment, Eddie Savinsky It 0:51:09.840 --> 0:51:13.200 So if he wins this, he joins Trevino. If he 0:51:13.320 --> 0:51:17.360 wins another major, he joins Trevino, Faldo, Mickelson. At six, 0:51:20.239 --> 0:51:24.719 he'll be one of sixteen players. And I think the 0:51:24.800 --> 0:51:27.160 other aspect of this that you have to bring up 0:51:28.640 --> 0:51:37.799 six today feels a lot bigger than six in nineteen ninety. Yeah, 0:51:38.520 --> 0:51:40.560 that's gonna get some people bothered, but. 0:51:42.280 --> 0:51:44.960 I think that's right at It's hard to look at 0:51:45.000 --> 0:51:48.600 an industry historically where you infuse this much more money 0:51:49.040 --> 0:51:51.879 and it didn't eventually become more competitive. And I think 0:51:52.000 --> 0:51:56.640 with with Tiger's entrance twenty five years ago, you're seeing 0:51:56.719 --> 0:51:59.440 the real like and when money started flowing in, you're 0:51:59.480 --> 0:52:03.640 seeing the realation of that, of that competitiveness. It's just more. 0:52:03.960 --> 0:52:06.839 There's just more good. I don't know that there's more 0:52:07.000 --> 0:52:10.680 great elite like generational players, but there's more really really 0:52:10.760 --> 0:52:15.080 good players, I think, And it's more competitive now than ever, 0:52:17.280 --> 0:52:20.680 I don't you know. I think that the other thing 0:52:20.840 --> 0:52:23.759 is is the Brooks versus Rory thing. I think right now, 0:52:24.200 --> 0:52:26.680 even though Brooks has more majors, you would say Rory's 0:52:26.680 --> 0:52:29.719 had a better career because he's won more types of 0:52:29.840 --> 0:52:35.000 majors and he's just one more worldwide, and it's longer, 0:52:35.080 --> 0:52:38.280 but you start to get two or three ahead in majors, 0:52:38.480 --> 0:52:41.000 and that that becomes a different conversation and you have 0:52:41.120 --> 0:52:44.280 to say, like you have to look at is Brooks 0:52:44.280 --> 0:52:48.879 the best player of you know, like the last well, 0:52:50.239 --> 0:52:53.480 the post Tiger time, and then you know Scotty enters 0:52:53.520 --> 0:52:54.520 that at some point as well. 0:52:55.239 --> 0:52:56.520 Do you want to talk about Scotty? 0:52:56.920 --> 0:52:57.120 Yeah? 0:52:57.360 --> 0:53:02.759 I think what has the base be come yet? I 0:53:02.840 --> 0:53:08.520 don't it's Friday afternoon. I don't love delving into like 0:53:09.640 --> 0:53:12.120 personal life, gestational. 0:53:11.520 --> 0:53:17.320 Periods or anything like that. But wasn't she do like 0:53:17.440 --> 0:53:18.320 at the end of April. 0:53:21.000 --> 0:53:23.560 I don't know. I think this is the whole thing, 0:53:23.680 --> 0:53:26.160 And I think Scotti was pretty gunshy to like kind 0:53:26.200 --> 0:53:29.759 of talk about it at the Masters, because like I 0:53:29.840 --> 0:53:32.200 had heard, it was three weeks out at the Masters, 0:53:32.280 --> 0:53:35.360 it was like a late Masters. So we're probably like 0:53:35.520 --> 0:53:36.400 right in the window. 0:53:37.800 --> 0:53:38.160 But like. 0:53:39.840 --> 0:53:42.760 I mean, I think we're actually getting to the point 0:53:43.000 --> 0:53:46.799 where it's beneficial that it's way it's been this long, 0:53:48.480 --> 0:53:51.680 because if he gets it like right after, if if 0:53:51.960 --> 0:53:55.040 if he was two weeks into parenthood, I think it 0:53:55.080 --> 0:53:57.360 would be harder than if it's like the baby comes 0:53:59.040 --> 0:54:01.839 and it's like, you know what, I got this major championship. 0:54:03.040 --> 0:54:05.839 I was here for the for the birth, and now 0:54:05.880 --> 0:54:08.480 I'm going to do my thing. Then if you're I, 0:54:08.800 --> 0:54:12.920 you know I I think we talk a lot about this, 0:54:13.080 --> 0:54:15.560 but like golf is such a mental game that like 0:54:15.760 --> 0:54:18.960 changes in life do matter with how you process, how 0:54:19.000 --> 0:54:22.560 you think. It's just such a it's not real. It's 0:54:22.600 --> 0:54:26.719 not a reactionary sports. It's not it's not basketball where 0:54:27.040 --> 0:54:29.799 you know you're making split second decisions and it's all 0:54:30.120 --> 0:54:36.280 instinctually based, like their thought in having a kid changes 0:54:36.360 --> 0:54:39.000 the fabric of a person. And everybody likes to use 0:54:39.200 --> 0:54:43.640 perspective and what it does to you know, perspective can 0:54:43.719 --> 0:54:46.680 hurt you too. It's like what what I always go 0:54:46.800 --> 0:54:50.600 back to the Cotric quote about experiences and all, like 0:54:50.800 --> 0:54:53.920 it's cracked up to. Perspective can also it can make 0:54:54.000 --> 0:54:56.800 you worry more, It can make you you know, it 0:54:56.880 --> 0:55:00.480 can make you think about things differently, and for golfer 0:55:00.719 --> 0:55:04.480 that stuff like really really matters. But like the longer 0:55:04.600 --> 0:55:08.080 this baby takes, I think, the better it is for Scottie. 0:55:08.200 --> 0:55:10.920 Like I think it's like it's it's fitting like I 0:55:10.960 --> 0:55:14.640 think it was. If there was any negative potential of 0:55:14.800 --> 0:55:18.160 having a kid impacting Scotty is if the kid came 0:55:18.600 --> 0:55:22.200 two weeks ago and he's like into three week three 0:55:22.840 --> 0:55:25.320 of being a parent, and you're just head spinning, like 0:55:25.640 --> 0:55:28.200 this is crazy. I'm getting up at you know, I'm 0:55:28.239 --> 0:55:30.680 sure they'll have a night nurse, but like I'm getting 0:55:30.719 --> 0:55:33.240 up at three in the morning and having these problems. 0:55:33.239 --> 0:55:35.280 I haven't slept through the night for two weeks. 0:55:35.400 --> 0:55:38.520 You know, Yeah, I do think you know, just the 0:55:38.640 --> 0:55:43.879 euphoria of having a child, like you could almost like yeah, 0:55:44.600 --> 0:55:46.280 I agree with you. Like you go to the PGA 0:55:46.360 --> 0:55:48.520 and you're like, oh, this is an amazing life experience. 0:55:48.560 --> 0:55:50.960 I want to go win the It almost it almost 0:55:51.480 --> 0:55:53.400 like this sounds weird, but it almost frees you up 0:55:53.400 --> 0:55:56.200 a little bit to go to go play. 0:55:57.880 --> 0:56:00.320 I remember I played. I played around a golf like 0:56:00.640 --> 0:56:07.080 right before my daughter's birth, and my head was like 0:56:08.000 --> 0:56:11.800 the only we had a we had an induction, so 0:56:12.040 --> 0:56:14.520 like I had that the date was ere a C section. 0:56:15.040 --> 0:56:18.680 We had like the date like you know set and 0:56:18.800 --> 0:56:22.000 I was playing like golf like maybe the day or 0:56:22.120 --> 0:56:25.560 two days before, and I mean my head was in 0:56:25.680 --> 0:56:28.560 a blender. I was so far away from the golf 0:56:28.640 --> 0:56:30.880 course and I'm not comparing playing a major to that. 0:56:31.880 --> 0:56:35.560 But but I remember the round after it was like, oh, 0:56:35.760 --> 0:56:38.759 I'm playing like I was so much more free. So 0:56:38.880 --> 0:56:41.480 I think if this this kid come. I hate that 0:56:41.560 --> 0:56:44.000 we're analyzing it to this and not just talking about 0:56:44.040 --> 0:56:46.879 this year, but like, you know, like from like from 0:56:46.960 --> 0:56:50.480 the golf perspective, like he's the best player in the 0:56:50.520 --> 0:56:53.000 world right now. It's without a doubt, and it would 0:56:53.000 --> 0:56:55.840 be it would be crazy if he's not in contention. 0:56:56.400 --> 0:57:00.200 But you know, you know, you don't know the kid 0:57:00.280 --> 0:57:00.880 dynamic is. 0:57:00.920 --> 0:57:03.240 Going to be. It would be funny if if Taylor 0:57:03.280 --> 0:57:04.759 Gooch got in the field but there was still an 0:57:04.760 --> 0:57:07.120 asterisk on this major because Scotty didn't play. 0:57:07.520 --> 0:57:10.040 Yeah, I mean, does that at this point? 0:57:10.200 --> 0:57:10.320 Is it? 0:57:10.480 --> 0:57:11.480 Is it out of the question. 0:57:12.480 --> 0:57:14.920 I just I literally just got a text from some 0:57:15.800 --> 0:57:19.680 different people that they they think that it did that 0:57:20.560 --> 0:57:24.600 this has happened. Now, Okay, this is a couple people removed. 0:57:24.680 --> 0:57:26.760 So I don't I don't know, but you're on the plex, 0:57:27.000 --> 0:57:29.400 You're you're right there. Yeah, I need to just I 0:57:29.480 --> 0:57:34.400 need to start dialing into some you know, generating some 0:57:34.520 --> 0:57:37.280 hippo violations. Just see what s what's see what's going 0:57:37.360 --> 0:57:40.880 on in the in the Metroplex. I think, listen, I 0:57:40.920 --> 0:57:44.920 think the story with Scotty we've already discussed. I think 0:57:45.000 --> 0:57:47.000 one half of it, which is like where is he 0:57:47.080 --> 0:57:48.960 going to be at mentally? Is he even going to 0:57:49.000 --> 0:57:51.960 play all that? I think the second half is I 0:57:52.360 --> 0:57:55.480 genuinely think that the Grand Slam is in play, and 0:57:57.000 --> 0:58:00.440 that sounds crazy. I think it's almost impossible to win 0:58:00.520 --> 0:58:03.320 the Grand Slam in the modern I mean, nobody's ever 0:58:03.400 --> 0:58:05.520 done it right, and especially in this era which we 0:58:05.560 --> 0:58:08.120 talked about, I think is probably more competitive than ever, 0:58:09.840 --> 0:58:14.440 and it's so it's extraordinarily difficult. But he is playing 0:58:14.560 --> 0:58:16.960 at a level that I think people are not. And 0:58:17.280 --> 0:58:19.160 he was doing this last year. Andy, he did this 0:58:19.280 --> 0:58:22.040 last summer and the putter wasn't there. But it made me. 0:58:22.320 --> 0:58:23.960 It made me go back and look at some of 0:58:24.080 --> 0:58:25.880 Tiger's years and I compared it to I think it 0:58:26.000 --> 0:58:29.360 was six Tiger, where he won like his last six 0:58:29.440 --> 0:58:32.320 events of six and they were playing at the exact 0:58:32.360 --> 0:58:35.520 same level. Tea green Tiger was just started putting better. 0:58:35.640 --> 0:58:38.280 And now Scotty's hit that run where he's putting it 0:58:38.720 --> 0:58:41.439 better than he was. Still not great, but good enough 0:58:41.560 --> 0:58:44.720 and much better than he was and he's won four 0:58:44.840 --> 0:58:47.919 or five and you know, if Speith can get within 0:58:48.120 --> 0:58:50.120 what do you get within four guys of winning the 0:58:50.160 --> 0:58:52.960 Slam In twenty fifteen he lost to four guys that year, 0:58:53.440 --> 0:58:57.000 three at the Open and Jason Day. I don't think 0:58:57.080 --> 0:58:59.560 it's crazy. I don't think it's inconceivable to think that 0:58:59.600 --> 0:59:03.120 Scotty could take it to Pinehurst, which would be it'd 0:59:03.160 --> 0:59:05.560 be a really really cool story to have the Slam 0:59:05.640 --> 0:59:08.440 alive going to Pinehurst for the major of the year. 0:59:08.800 --> 0:59:12.040 I mean, when you talk about course fit, I think 0:59:12.160 --> 0:59:14.880 this one is. It's every course is a great fit 0:59:14.960 --> 0:59:19.240 for Scotty, but this one might throttle back a little. 0:59:19.640 --> 0:59:22.000 Like in terms of spectrum, if I was going to 0:59:22.040 --> 0:59:24.520 build a golf course for Scotty, it's like Augustin at 0:59:24.640 --> 0:59:29.160 I think Pinehurst number two is like an extraordinary fit 0:59:29.360 --> 0:59:33.520 because that's going to be such a ball striking you know, 0:59:33.800 --> 0:59:37.000 It's it's gonna be about getting up and down and 0:59:37.240 --> 0:59:40.880 hitting really good iron shots. And I don't know anybody 0:59:41.040 --> 0:59:44.440 that's that's better at those two things. It's like Scotty 0:59:44.800 --> 0:59:48.160 camp Smith, Like if camp Smith's playing really, really on 0:59:48.320 --> 0:59:53.160 his game, like that Pinehurst setup is going to be 0:59:54.160 --> 0:59:56.720 really dynamite for him, and then you go to Troon like, 0:59:57.360 --> 1:00:01.320 I definitely think it's like one of those years. If 1:00:01.360 --> 1:00:04.400 I was if I offered you a bet double digit 1:00:04.880 --> 1:00:09.440 players beat Scottie Scheffler in majors, like and if somebody 1:00:09.480 --> 1:00:13.280 beats him twice accounts as two you know, yeah, right, 1:00:14.440 --> 1:00:18.440 double digit players beat Scotti Schefflers in all four majors 1:00:18.520 --> 1:00:21.320 this year? Would you take that over or under of that? 1:00:21.880 --> 1:00:25.800 I would take under because we've seen it happen, not 1:00:26.000 --> 1:00:30.480 just with Speth Brooks. Did it recently or it was close? 1:00:30.560 --> 1:00:33.240 It was like right around eight nine ten, and Rory 1:00:33.320 --> 1:00:37.400 did at recent Roy did it in it was again, 1:00:37.480 --> 1:00:39.840 it was close. It was twenty twenty two. He finished 1:00:39.840 --> 1:00:43.840 second at the Masters, third at the Open, and he 1:00:44.000 --> 1:00:46.320 was like top seven I think in the PGA and 1:00:46.560 --> 1:00:48.800 the US Open as well. So we've had a bunch 1:00:48.840 --> 1:00:50.840 of guys that are close and he's already. Yeah, I 1:00:50.880 --> 1:00:54.320 would take the under, honestly, Which is that seems insane? 1:00:54.480 --> 1:00:57.760 Like that seems like a insane thing to think about, 1:00:57.960 --> 1:01:01.280 Like I played these four the four hardest golf tournaments 1:01:01.320 --> 1:01:05.919 with the best players in the world, and only five 1:01:06.000 --> 1:01:07.040 guys beat me all year. 1:01:08.680 --> 1:01:11.200 Well, I think that it's and it's not for me. 1:01:11.560 --> 1:01:15.640 It's not just about this year necessarily. If you go 1:01:15.720 --> 1:01:17.200 back to I've got the numbers right, if you go 1:01:17.280 --> 1:01:22.680 back to twenty twenty at the Majors, So the start 1:01:22.720 --> 1:01:25.480 of twenty twenty, he missed the US Open that year. 1:01:25.480 --> 1:01:29.560 I think he had COVID. But he is about a 1:01:29.720 --> 1:01:32.400 half stroke better from tee to green at the Majors 1:01:32.520 --> 1:01:36.760 than the next best guy. He's He's two point seven 1:01:36.760 --> 1:01:39.720 to two from tee to green. Zala, Taurus and Rory 1:01:39.720 --> 1:01:42.200 are two point twenty six tea green. That's two point 1:01:42.240 --> 1:01:44.960 twenty six strokes game per round. So he is, what 1:01:45.160 --> 1:01:49.400 is that two strokes per tournament better than the second 1:01:49.480 --> 1:01:52.000 best guy from tea green over the last four years. 1:01:53.200 --> 1:01:59.240 That's that's an enormous difference. And yeah, I mean a 1:01:59.320 --> 1:02:01.960 million people said it, but the putter is good enough 1:02:02.080 --> 1:02:04.520 right now that And I think mentally, he said this 1:02:04.560 --> 1:02:08.240 after RBC Heritage, he said, mentally, I'm just in the 1:02:08.280 --> 1:02:10.400 best place I've ever mentally and emotionally, I'm in the 1:02:10.440 --> 1:02:12.040 best place I've ever been in. And I think you 1:02:12.120 --> 1:02:14.200 can you can see that he just looks so much 1:02:14.320 --> 1:02:17.120 freer than he did even earlier this year when he 1:02:17.280 --> 1:02:19.840 was like, I remember Bayhill, he missed a couple of 1:02:19.880 --> 1:02:23.600 putts early and he was like, just it's uh, it's 1:02:23.720 --> 1:02:27.120 super super frustrating, and he just looks like he's playing 1:02:27.720 --> 1:02:29.400 incredibly free golf right now. 1:02:30.760 --> 1:02:35.160 Yeah, yeah, it's uh, he's in the best place. It's 1:02:35.320 --> 1:02:37.560 it's what you always say about golf. When you get 1:02:37.600 --> 1:02:39.920 it going, it feels like you're never gonna lose it, 1:02:40.240 --> 1:02:42.160 and when you lose it, you feel like you're never 1:02:42.280 --> 1:02:45.040 gonna be get it back. And he's at the stage 1:02:45.040 --> 1:02:52.919 where it's like it's inconceivable. I'd be surprised, honestly. Would 1:02:52.960 --> 1:02:58.240 you be surprised, be more surprised if he won, or 1:02:58.320 --> 1:03:01.800 more surprised if he shot a round over seventy one 1:03:02.160 --> 1:03:02.640 next week? 1:03:07.280 --> 1:03:09.520 For sure, more surprised if he shot a round over 1:03:09.600 --> 1:03:10.160 seventy one. 1:03:11.800 --> 1:03:14.240 I think these are the types of questions that like 1:03:14.360 --> 1:03:16.480 get to where we're at with Scotty. 1:03:16.360 --> 1:03:19.720 Right, yeah, yeah, he's done. He's only done it, I 1:03:19.800 --> 1:03:22.320 think three times this year now. I maybe I Valhalla 1:03:22.400 --> 1:03:25.040 is set up crazy and I don't you know, I 1:03:25.160 --> 1:03:28.000 might change that answer next Wednesday, but I don't. 1:03:27.840 --> 1:03:31.680 Think it's I mean these PGAs are usually you know, 1:03:32.080 --> 1:03:35.160 eight to eight to fourteen under right. 1:03:35.200 --> 1:03:39.480 Yeah, John Daly is in the field, by the way, 1:03:43.240 --> 1:03:47.320 insane is your Do you can I talk about my 1:03:47.400 --> 1:03:59.040 number one story? Yeah, Blockey, No, Scotty was my number 1:03:59.080 --> 1:04:00.840 one I did. I did want to give a mention. 1:04:00.920 --> 1:04:02.240 I don't know how many I've done, but I did 1:04:02.360 --> 1:04:06.560 want to give one quick mention because I think this 1:04:06.760 --> 1:04:10.360 guy is kind of in a good spot right now. 1:04:10.720 --> 1:04:15.160 And that's that's the old thick boy, the newly the 1:04:15.240 --> 1:04:21.160 newly slim boy. Bryson played really good at the Masters. 1:04:21.360 --> 1:04:24.480 He played very good at o'kill last year. That was okaill. 1:04:24.560 --> 1:04:27.280 Last year was kind of the beginning of this new 1:04:28.160 --> 1:04:32.160 whatever version nine of him. I don't know what version 1:04:32.240 --> 1:04:37.120 were on, but you know he is. I've called him 1:04:37.120 --> 1:04:38.880 the high King of Content, which he is. 1:04:40.000 --> 1:04:40.160 Uh. 1:04:40.440 --> 1:04:41.960 It's not enough for him to win the Masters. He 1:04:42.000 --> 1:04:43.680 has to win him. He has to win the Masters 1:04:43.720 --> 1:04:47.360 with three d golf clubs, which is outrageous, but he 1:04:47.600 --> 1:04:49.720 You know, this is when I say, hey, there's like 1:04:49.800 --> 1:04:53.080 six guys, it feels like they could win it. I 1:04:53.600 --> 1:04:56.000 would actually throw Bryson in there. I think he is 1:04:56.960 --> 1:05:00.280 just so well set up for for PJA Championships at 1:05:00.360 --> 1:05:03.320 courses like this, and I'm fascinated to see how he plays. 1:05:04.360 --> 1:05:07.800 I yeah, I agree. I think like I was talking 1:05:07.840 --> 1:05:10.720 to somebody yesterday about this, It's like, do I do 1:05:10.840 --> 1:05:14.360 I love Bryson? Now? Do I really love him for 1:05:14.480 --> 1:05:16.800 my job? Yes? And I think like when you think 1:05:16.800 --> 1:05:22.800 about Bryson, like life is Life's hard. The way he 1:05:23.080 --> 1:05:26.840 was entered into the game, it was with like all 1:05:26.920 --> 1:05:32.160 these high expectations and most importantly brand pushing this idea 1:05:32.240 --> 1:05:35.200 that he's changing golf. He's this innovator, he's all this, 1:05:35.520 --> 1:05:38.320 and you know, it was met with a lot of skepticism, 1:05:38.400 --> 1:05:41.280 a lot of hate. And you know, I certainly was, 1:05:42.040 --> 1:05:45.480 you know, one person that was pretty you know, outspoken, 1:05:45.600 --> 1:05:48.880 calling bullshit on some of the stuff that was being purported. 1:05:49.440 --> 1:05:54.040 But the I think, like you're seeing Bryson as he 1:05:54.280 --> 1:05:58.560 enters this, I think he's late twenties and that's when 1:05:58.640 --> 1:06:01.440 you is a person's start to figure out who you are. 1:06:02.960 --> 1:06:05.840 I mean, I didn't know who I was until like 1:06:06.040 --> 1:06:10.560 late twenties, early thirties. I was not like really sure 1:06:10.720 --> 1:06:12.920 what I was going to do with my life, what 1:06:13.040 --> 1:06:16.080 I was going to do, Like how I was socially, 1:06:16.200 --> 1:06:19.040 like who how I fit in you know everything? And 1:06:19.120 --> 1:06:23.120 I think that like when you talk about like, I 1:06:23.160 --> 1:06:25.160 don't think it get and I think like mental health. 1:06:25.840 --> 1:06:29.200 Obviously it's gotten a lot of run lately in sports, 1:06:30.040 --> 1:06:33.160 but there is this idea of like, I think one 1:06:33.200 --> 1:06:35.320 of the hardest things about being an athlete is like 1:06:35.600 --> 1:06:40.080 you're expected to be this person and every move you 1:06:40.240 --> 1:06:43.360 make is under a microscope at an age when you're 1:06:43.440 --> 1:06:46.880 still trying to figure out what life is and who 1:06:46.960 --> 1:06:50.000 you are. And I think with Bryson, like, I think 1:06:52.000 --> 1:06:58.040 I think the live thing honestly, like he took a 1:06:58.080 --> 1:07:01.520 big bag bag of money, got ostracized for it, and 1:07:01.600 --> 1:07:04.360 I think he was like shocked at that. But I think, 1:07:04.520 --> 1:07:08.160 like from and I'm guessing that, like, I just think 1:07:08.240 --> 1:07:10.920 that Bryson wants to be loved. I think that's like 1:07:11.320 --> 1:07:14.720 what at his core, he like wants people to like him, 1:07:15.720 --> 1:07:19.680 I believe, and you could you probably would remember. Wasn't 1:07:19.680 --> 1:07:21.280 there a quote one time where he was like, I 1:07:21.440 --> 1:07:23.959 was kind of shocked at the reaction of me going 1:07:24.080 --> 1:07:28.040 what happened? Was that him that said that, Uh yeah, I. 1:07:28.080 --> 1:07:31.840 Think it was on a I want to say it 1:07:31.960 --> 1:07:36.000 was on like a conference call or something. I do 1:07:36.200 --> 1:07:38.520 remember what you're talking about. I don't remember where when 1:07:38.560 --> 1:07:39.320 it was, though. 1:07:39.720 --> 1:07:44.040 But you think about that and and I you know, 1:07:44.160 --> 1:07:46.520 you grow the most as a person when you have 1:07:47.360 --> 1:07:52.080 these low moments, and for for professional athletes, especially at 1:07:52.120 --> 1:07:56.000 golfers that had our phenoms like Bryson, like, there aren't 1:07:56.000 --> 1:07:58.680 a lot of low moments in your life. And I think, like, 1:07:59.720 --> 1:08:02.640 I think think we're seeing the best version of Bryson. Like, 1:08:02.800 --> 1:08:05.600 am I going like do I want to hang out 1:08:05.640 --> 1:08:08.880 with him? Probably not? Would I like to talk to 1:08:09.000 --> 1:08:12.520 him about golf? Yeah, Like he's a very interesting person, 1:08:12.640 --> 1:08:15.000 but like I think you're starting to see the best 1:08:15.200 --> 1:08:18.839 version of him as a golfer, also the most aware 1:08:19.240 --> 1:08:22.960 as a person, and he's becoming himself. He's becoming comfortable 1:08:23.439 --> 1:08:27.799 being himself, and I think that is a really powerful 1:08:27.880 --> 1:08:32.000 thing for your golf game, when you are comfortable in 1:08:32.120 --> 1:08:36.479 your own skin, especially playing at majors championships. And I 1:08:36.680 --> 1:08:43.519 just think, like, you know, like for Bryson, like we 1:08:43.680 --> 1:08:49.760 could he has had an amazing career already. We we 1:08:49.880 --> 1:08:52.599 might look back and say, like the next five years 1:08:52.720 --> 1:08:55.560 might be the best part of his career, And I 1:08:55.640 --> 1:08:58.200 think that's not off the table. I think he's playing. 1:08:58.360 --> 1:09:00.360 I think from in terms of like who we as 1:09:00.400 --> 1:09:04.280 a golfer, he is a better player now than he 1:09:04.560 --> 1:09:08.719 was a while ago. Like even when he was winning, 1:09:09.040 --> 1:09:11.759 you know, even that US Open where he just bludgeoned, 1:09:11.800 --> 1:09:13.559 I think he was pretty one dimensional. I think he's 1:09:13.720 --> 1:09:16.280 got I think the YouTube stuff's really making him a 1:09:16.320 --> 1:09:16.880 better player. 1:09:19.240 --> 1:09:24.000 We've talked about YouTube improving your game, gestational periods, we've 1:09:24.080 --> 1:09:26.720 covered the we've run the game here. I think you're 1:09:26.800 --> 1:09:30.759 right about Bryson. I you know, I think it's actually 1:09:32.280 --> 1:09:34.080 I think you can make the case that it's more 1:09:34.240 --> 1:09:37.680 rare for a player of him in the type of 1:09:37.720 --> 1:09:41.360 spotlight that he was in to mature at a Rory 1:09:41.479 --> 1:09:46.439 or Speeth rate, and it's actually more common to mature, 1:09:46.840 --> 1:09:49.280 like to mature at a Bryson rate. Now. I think 1:09:49.320 --> 1:09:52.280 the thing that hurt him more than maybe some other 1:09:52.360 --> 1:09:55.439 guy like Tiger didn't mature really when he was that age. 1:09:55.840 --> 1:09:59.160 He just had people around him that protected him from 1:09:59.200 --> 1:10:02.160 the right things are from the wrong whatever however you 1:10:02.200 --> 1:10:06.000 want to say that. And Bryson, I don't know that 1:10:06.080 --> 1:10:10.479 he's had those people around him, and so he has 1:10:10.720 --> 1:10:13.920 just looked a lot worse and he's yeah, not self 1:10:13.960 --> 1:10:16.680 aware and all those different things. But I think it's 1:10:16.880 --> 1:10:22.519 very insightful for you to say, like, yeah, it's very 1:10:22.640 --> 1:10:25.320 hard to mature into who you're going to become, and 1:10:25.400 --> 1:10:28.080 even more so when you're in the spotlight, and even 1:10:28.160 --> 1:10:30.760 more so when you don't surround yourself with people that 1:10:30.920 --> 1:10:32.200 kind of save you from yourself. 1:10:33.080 --> 1:10:37.599 Yeah. Yeah, I think like I when as I zoom 1:10:37.680 --> 1:10:40.519 out on Bryson's career, and I think we've gotten to 1:10:40.600 --> 1:10:42.760 the stage where it's possible and we've seen kind of 1:10:42.800 --> 1:10:46.920 different versions. Like the failing of Bryson early in his 1:10:47.080 --> 1:10:49.920 career were the brands and the people that were around 1:10:50.000 --> 1:10:53.599 him that didn't protect him from the brands and in himself. 1:10:54.160 --> 1:10:54.320 Right. 1:10:54.840 --> 1:10:58.160 I think that's the thing is like when you you 1:10:58.240 --> 1:11:00.439 look back on every base career, there are elements and 1:11:00.560 --> 1:11:02.760 time where there are you know, you're going to have 1:11:03.040 --> 1:11:06.000 regrets on different things and they didn't handle things the 1:11:06.120 --> 1:11:10.600 right way, you know, And for Bryson it's going to 1:11:10.640 --> 1:11:13.400 be there was a period of time where like you 1:11:13.479 --> 1:11:15.400 didn't have the right people in his ear or he 1:11:15.520 --> 1:11:17.599 lost sight. I think like you have to blame him too. 1:11:17.720 --> 1:11:20.559 He lost sight of who the right people are because obviously, 1:11:20.640 --> 1:11:24.479 like he's rededicated to what got him there the last 1:11:24.880 --> 1:11:27.320 year and a half, and he talked about that a 1:11:27.400 --> 1:11:32.600 lot at last year's PGA Championship. One last thing, I 1:11:32.680 --> 1:11:35.200 think like we got to this point where it was 1:11:35.280 --> 1:11:37.920 like kind of everybody we felt like should have won 1:11:37.960 --> 1:11:39.920 a major, had won a major. I feel like this 1:11:40.120 --> 1:11:42.880 is like a constant ebb and flow with majors, where 1:11:43.400 --> 1:11:45.840 like people start to get one and it's like oh yeah, 1:11:45.960 --> 1:11:48.519 Like like when Sergio won, it's like, yeah, he deserved 1:11:48.560 --> 1:11:51.160 a major, right, yeah, you know, and it's like oh, 1:11:51.240 --> 1:11:54.160 Scotty got one, like well he belongs. And we've had 1:11:54.240 --> 1:11:57.479 like this run of different guys. But like, I feel 1:11:57.520 --> 1:11:59.960 like we've got the pen is starting to fill bad 1:12:00.400 --> 1:12:03.400 with people that haven't won majors, and you've got Hovelin, 1:12:03.560 --> 1:12:06.560 Xander can't lay, and I think it's way too early 1:12:06.640 --> 1:12:08.639 to put Ludwig in there, but he's going to naturally 1:12:08.720 --> 1:12:10.760 go in there just because of the talent level. You 1:12:10.880 --> 1:12:14.680 got Max Homa, who's playing really really great golf. Fee 1:12:14.720 --> 1:12:17.200 now yeah, So I think that's just one thing I 1:12:17.280 --> 1:12:22.040 have in mind is that I think that lately and 1:12:22.520 --> 1:12:27.400 and very well deserved. The focus of majors has been 1:12:27.479 --> 1:12:30.320 around a couple guys, and we haven't even mentioned John Rahm, 1:12:30.680 --> 1:12:35.240 who can't be happy you first mentioned a minute whatever 1:12:35.360 --> 1:12:38.280 sixty of this pod. There's sixty something of this pod, 1:12:38.720 --> 1:12:44.200 but we've kind of refilled the tank of guys that 1:12:44.360 --> 1:12:49.440 are are you know, really talented players without major championships. 1:12:49.600 --> 1:12:52.800 And I think that that's a you know, we I 1:12:52.880 --> 1:12:55.599 think first time major winners, when they're really well deserved 1:12:55.640 --> 1:12:58.040 first time major winners, there is always a fun story. 1:13:00.000 --> 1:13:02.519 Who is that? Is it Xander that's the most deserving 1:13:02.920 --> 1:13:03.519 major winner? 1:13:05.240 --> 1:13:07.839 I think, So what do you think? I mean, Hoblin 1:13:07.960 --> 1:13:10.000 was so good last year, but Xander's been so good 1:13:10.080 --> 1:13:10.800 for five years. 1:13:11.640 --> 1:13:15.640 Wellander, Xander, statistically, I think is the most deserving. I 1:13:15.720 --> 1:13:19.720 think if you actually watch golf, it's Hoblin's up there, 1:13:20.200 --> 1:13:24.760 Fleetwood's probably up there. Just in terms of like major play, 1:13:25.160 --> 1:13:29.000 like Xander's. I mean, we've talked about we've joked about 1:13:29.000 --> 1:13:30.960 it a bunch, but you know, he's got all these 1:13:31.000 --> 1:13:33.519 top tens at major's. But like when did have you 1:13:33.600 --> 1:13:36.200 ever thought, Oh, Xander's gonna win this major championship? 1:13:36.479 --> 1:13:43.680 Maybe the Open? Uh, Molinari's Open at seventeen eight eight eight. 1:13:43.880 --> 1:13:46.360 That was because Tiger Kissner Molinari. 1:13:46.760 --> 1:13:51.519 That's when Speed got the haircut. Yeah, I think and 1:13:51.720 --> 1:13:53.160 Xander were in. I think they were in the. 1:13:53.200 --> 1:13:57.719 Last Yeah, and he had that wasn't that it didn't 1:13:57.760 --> 1:14:01.640 he have the baby cry when he had that? Right? 1:14:02.280 --> 1:14:02.760 Remember that? 1:14:03.320 --> 1:14:07.000 I think that's right. And so he was in that one. 1:14:07.120 --> 1:14:09.880 That was actually one that Rory could have won. Yeah, 1:14:10.479 --> 1:14:12.760 he was with us four holes left. 1:14:13.800 --> 1:14:17.040 Rory has a million. He could have won if he 1:14:17.120 --> 1:14:18.479 went out in twenty seven. 1:14:18.760 --> 1:14:23.000 Well, yeah, I did love Joel Beel's sweet at the 1:14:23.040 --> 1:14:25.680 Master's happy if Rory goes out in twenty nine to 1:14:25.760 --> 1:14:26.960 all who celebrate day. 1:14:30.680 --> 1:14:36.519 So yeah, but yeah, I think Xander maybe, I I mean, 1:14:36.600 --> 1:14:39.720 Hoblin is recent, but I don't feel good about where 1:14:39.800 --> 1:14:43.240 he's at right now with his golf game. Seems like 1:14:43.320 --> 1:14:45.680 he's lost in the woods. I heard he moved back 1:14:45.720 --> 1:14:48.240 to Stillwater, did he? 1:14:49.120 --> 1:14:50.320 Yeah, he left the swamp. 1:14:50.600 --> 1:14:53.640 I think he's Oh, I did my so. 1:14:53.800 --> 1:14:56.280 My parents live in Stillwater and my dad said he 1:14:56.320 --> 1:14:58.639 saw him the other day at his at the place 1:14:58.720 --> 1:14:59.280 that he plays. 1:15:00.080 --> 1:15:02.120 Yeah, I think he's back. I think he's back in 1:15:02.439 --> 1:15:06.880 still water. Okay, it was a short lived swamp experiment, 1:15:07.880 --> 1:15:11.120 just a tour. Do you know you know where he 1:15:11.240 --> 1:15:15.920 was staying in the swamp do you know? No? So 1:15:16.400 --> 1:15:19.559 you know, this guy made fifty million dollars, he decides 1:15:20.120 --> 1:15:23.680 decides to move to the to Jupiter and he was 1:15:23.800 --> 1:15:31.519 renting a room from Chris Ventura, really former teammate, former 1:15:31.680 --> 1:15:35.479 teammate player on the Corn Ferry tour. So this guy 1:15:35.840 --> 1:15:41.240 guy takes fifty million dollars last year and he's renting 1:15:41.320 --> 1:15:43.320 a room off his college. 1:15:43.360 --> 1:15:47.400 That's when that's what like Quhen Ricky and Cam Trngalli 1:15:47.520 --> 1:15:50.360 used to room together. Yeah, I think they used to 1:15:50.439 --> 1:15:51.439 live together in Florida. 1:15:52.000 --> 1:15:54.840 But did Ricky own the house? I mean, like I 1:15:55.280 --> 1:15:58.880 don't know, yeah, probably you would think that it would 1:15:58.880 --> 1:16:02.200 be the opposite that Chris Ventura's renting from. 1:16:02.200 --> 1:16:06.040 Vaders was Baby's trying to help him out. Maybe he 1:16:06.120 --> 1:16:07.639 was overpaying him or something. 1:16:08.760 --> 1:16:11.599 It's just an amazing It's just there's so many great 1:16:11.840 --> 1:16:14.880 Like Victor's just a normal dude stories, but a story. 1:16:14.960 --> 1:16:18.240 But like the idea that like anybody that's got you know, 1:16:18.520 --> 1:16:22.120 i mean, his net worth with sponsorships and everything's gotta 1:16:22.200 --> 1:16:25.439 be through the roof right now, and he moved. He 1:16:25.560 --> 1:16:27.840 decides he's moving somewhere and he moves in with his 1:16:28.200 --> 1:16:30.240 his former teammates and rents a room. 1:16:30.960 --> 1:16:33.400 There are there are. I was just thinking about still Water. 1:16:33.520 --> 1:16:37.720 He could buy like six hundred acres in still Water. 1:16:38.920 --> 1:16:42.000 He could buy like half the town. I did laugh. 1:16:42.200 --> 1:16:44.639 I forgot. I think it was Shargunstar where you guys 1:16:44.680 --> 1:16:47.560 talked about how Victor should have at the at the 1:16:47.640 --> 1:16:48.280 wrong club. 1:16:49.479 --> 1:16:52.000 Yeah yeah, down in the swamp. 1:16:52.520 --> 1:16:54.760 That's incredible. 1:16:55.680 --> 1:16:59.479 I love the idea of the other club president, the 1:17:00.200 --> 1:17:02.880 that just being like getting like a call and being 1:17:02.920 --> 1:17:06.759 like Victor Hoblin's here to beat with you, and being like, okay, 1:17:07.160 --> 1:17:14.760 sweet talk. I know basis of why he was there. 1:17:15.640 --> 1:17:19.720 I am bummed he's he is. I've talked to this 1:17:20.200 --> 1:17:22.200 a couple of people that it just feels like he's 1:17:22.320 --> 1:17:26.560 the lost boy right now. And that's a bummer. He 1:17:26.760 --> 1:17:28.720 was so I mean, I think you think back to 1:17:28.800 --> 1:17:32.120 a year ago he kind of stared Keopka in the 1:17:32.200 --> 1:17:35.680 eye and hit one bad shot, you know, on sixteen on. 1:17:35.960 --> 1:17:38.240 He kept waiting for him to fall apart, and he 1:17:38.400 --> 1:17:39.599 just never did until. 1:17:39.400 --> 1:17:42.080 The Yeah, yeah, yeah, that the getting out of the 1:17:42.120 --> 1:17:45.120 bunker on the fairway bunker on sixteen. He I thought 1:17:45.120 --> 1:17:47.519 he was really impressive, and it made me think, like, man, 1:17:47.600 --> 1:17:49.479 this guy's gonna win a major in the next two years. 1:17:49.520 --> 1:17:52.160 And then he just he went and tore everything down 1:17:52.280 --> 1:17:55.000 and he and his reasoning was insane. He was like, well, 1:17:55.080 --> 1:17:57.840 I just he almost He basically said I was playing 1:17:57.880 --> 1:18:01.559 too good. I didn't think that was sustainable. And you're like, well, 1:18:01.960 --> 1:18:04.639 that seems kind of fatalistic. 1:18:04.439 --> 1:18:08.600 Isn't this the isn't this why Scotty seems so sustainable? 1:18:09.080 --> 1:18:09.240 Yes? 1:18:09.600 --> 1:18:12.920 Is that like when when you when somebody asks Scotty 1:18:13.000 --> 1:18:15.240 what he's working on, He's like, the same thing as always, 1:18:15.560 --> 1:18:18.680 same thing I've been working on for years, grip set up. 1:18:19.120 --> 1:18:22.080 It's like nothing can go wrong if you're if that's 1:18:22.120 --> 1:18:24.800 your mentality, if you know what you're working on, and 1:18:24.920 --> 1:18:28.800 it's all fundamental based like the idea of playing the 1:18:28.880 --> 1:18:31.439 best golf of your life. Like and this happens all 1:18:31.520 --> 1:18:34.800 the time in golf. It like there's there's dozens of 1:18:34.880 --> 1:18:37.919 these stories. It's like, I mean Tiger is an example 1:18:38.000 --> 1:18:40.000 of this. You get you're the greatest player in the 1:18:40.080 --> 1:18:42.760 world that it's not even closed and you decide to 1:18:42.920 --> 1:18:46.519 just like reinvent your golf swing. Yeah, I think, like 1:18:46.800 --> 1:18:50.599 this is a crazy phenomenon. You know, it's just speaks 1:18:50.600 --> 1:18:53.680 to the the you know, every I always get these. 1:18:53.840 --> 1:18:56.360 You always get the people that like, you know, I'm 1:18:56.439 --> 1:18:59.120 not any good at golf. It's like, well, here's the thing. 1:19:00.280 --> 1:19:02.599 Victor Hoblin was probably the best player in the world 1:19:02.720 --> 1:19:05.680 in August, and he didn't think he was any good 1:19:05.680 --> 1:19:07.759 at golf and decided to reinvent himself. 1:19:08.160 --> 1:19:11.320 Yeah, and I think this is actually a Scotty Like 1:19:11.439 --> 1:19:13.200 I think there's a point to be made about Scotty 1:19:13.240 --> 1:19:17.400 here where the footwork it looks crazy and you're like 1:19:17.520 --> 1:19:20.360 that he can't keep doing this, But it's actually the 1:19:20.439 --> 1:19:23.559 other way around. It actually keeps him from trying something 1:19:23.600 --> 1:19:28.400 else because it's so it's so like he owns it 1:19:28.560 --> 1:19:31.800 so much that he would be probably bad if he 1:19:31.880 --> 1:19:35.400 tried anything. It's almost like Jim Furick right where, Yeah, 1:19:35.479 --> 1:19:38.599 the swing is so wonky that he can't do anything 1:19:38.680 --> 1:19:40.600 like this is it? Like this is what it is. 1:19:41.400 --> 1:19:43.200 And I think you get these guys that are so 1:19:43.760 --> 1:19:46.639 obsessed with becoming better and so confident in their own 1:19:46.680 --> 1:19:50.600 ability to do so that they go down pass that 1:19:50.680 --> 1:19:53.200 they shouldn't be going down. We've seen it a million 1:19:53.360 --> 1:19:55.960 times and it helped. It helps guys like Scotty that 1:19:56.040 --> 1:19:59.400 they have this weird trait, this weird thing that they do, 1:19:59.600 --> 1:20:01.400 because it keeps them from those paths. 1:20:01.479 --> 1:20:05.960 I think, yeah, yeah, it's uh, it's wild. All right, 1:20:06.160 --> 1:20:07.360 are you all out of things? 1:20:08.160 --> 1:20:10.920 I'm yeah, I emptied, the emptied the notebook. 1:20:11.760 --> 1:20:13.400 What who's your pick to win? 1:20:14.720 --> 1:20:15.160 Scotty? 1:20:17.520 --> 1:20:24.240 Yeah, I'm gonna take Brooks just for variety's sake, very brave. 1:20:24.120 --> 1:20:25.439 The five time major winner. 1:20:28.520 --> 1:20:30.880 I do think it's a good Rory week. He's coming 1:20:30.960 --> 1:20:33.240 in playing well, it's always a good rory week. 1:20:33.680 --> 1:20:38.680 Yeah. Oh, Either any of those three would be very 1:20:38.880 --> 1:20:43.720 historically cool. You know, like I think, if you, if you, 1:20:44.479 --> 1:20:46.599 if you're one of if you're us, you're in the media, 1:20:46.680 --> 1:20:49.719 you want something that's historically relevant and fun to write 1:20:49.720 --> 1:20:52.479 about and talk about and think about. And any of 1:20:52.560 --> 1:20:56.240 those three, whether it's the slam Rory getting finally getting 1:20:56.280 --> 1:20:59.800 his fifth or or Brooks getting too six, is is 1:21:01.240 --> 1:21:04.960 like really crazy. Any one of those storylines. 1:21:05.479 --> 1:21:10.400 The who would who's your worst carre scenario? Real legitimate 1:21:10.479 --> 1:21:11.120 worst case. 1:21:11.000 --> 1:21:13.960 Scenario, legitimate worst case scenario. 1:21:15.200 --> 1:21:26.240 Uh, Blockie, I think I mean, if Blockie, are you 1:21:26.320 --> 1:21:29.040 betting Blockie to make the cut or miss the cut? No? 1:21:29.320 --> 1:21:35.400 Miss miss miss h I think it is is it 1:21:35.680 --> 1:21:39.439 is it like a well, how legitimate does it have 1:21:39.560 --> 1:21:40.920 to be? I don't know. 1:21:41.280 --> 1:21:43.599 I don't know that it's just a throwaway question. 1:21:43.920 --> 1:21:46.160 Like I think I think a Nick Taylor. 1:21:46.920 --> 1:21:48.160 That's there's no way. 1:21:50.200 --> 1:21:52.120 He's I mean he's he's really good. 1:21:54.400 --> 1:21:57.160 I don't know. I don't like, like, like is is 1:21:57.880 --> 1:22:00.719 tier there's like six guys that can win in this tournament? 1:22:00.920 --> 1:22:03.400 I agree, I mean that's what I've been saying. 1:22:03.520 --> 1:22:09.320 I think it's like Scottie, Rory Wyndham, Rom Ludwig Brooks, 1:22:11.040 --> 1:22:16.559 Bryson Bryson and then maybe Xander, like I Cam Young 1:22:16.680 --> 1:22:19.760 seems like he could win this thing too, right, Yeah, 1:22:20.680 --> 1:22:23.400 but like there aren't. I don't think there's a lot 1:22:23.439 --> 1:22:27.160 of people that can actually win. Yeah, and maybe I'm wrong, 1:22:27.280 --> 1:22:29.840 but like it's the old thing with Brooks what he 1:22:29.960 --> 1:22:32.439 used to say, which I think he got a lot 1:22:32.479 --> 1:22:34.559 of heat for it, But it's like the exact way 1:22:34.640 --> 1:22:38.479 that someone who's really good at golf thinks about golf tournaments. Yeah, 1:22:39.960 --> 1:22:43.880 so all right, Kyle, people read your people can read 1:22:43.880 --> 1:22:47.160 your stuff. With CBS Sports, they can, they can listen 1:22:47.200 --> 1:22:50.800 to you, they can read. I think everybody should sign 1:22:50.880 --> 1:22:54.360 up for the normal Sporter. You got anything else going on, 1:22:54.640 --> 1:22:57.200 You're gonna be doing the video too for CBS Sports, 1:22:57.200 --> 1:22:58.000 I assume next week. 1:22:58.160 --> 1:23:01.160 Yeah, we'll we'll have a setout there with Rick Caymen 1:23:01.240 --> 1:23:04.479 and Joe Musso, who's our host. 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