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Speaker 5: Last, Oh Joe.
Speaker 2: As we mentioned earlier, the Bills defeated the forty nine
Speaker 2: ers thirty five to ten. Buffalo improved the ten and
Speaker 2: two stranglehold on the afced.
Speaker 5: Well. Right now, the number their number.
Speaker 2: They're the second seed because Kansas City is number one
Speaker 2: because Kansas City on has one loss, but if Kansas
Speaker 2: City were to get a second loss, Buffalo would vault
Speaker 2: to the number one seed since they beat Kansas City
Speaker 2: head to head. Josh Allen threw for two touchdowns, rushed
Speaker 2: for another, and also recorded a receiving touchdown when Omari
Speaker 2: Cooper lattered him the football following his own pass James
Speaker 2: Cook out of one hundred and twenty yards of total offense,
Speaker 2: over one hundred of your those yards, Ojo was rushing
Speaker 2: and a sixty five yard touchdown run really put Buffalo
Speaker 2: in control of this ball game, and they didn't look
Speaker 2: back from that point, Ojo. As you watched this game,
Speaker 2: as you watch the Bills, what impressed you about this game?
Speaker 3: Shit?
Speaker 1: From start to finish, Hunk. They won the game before
Speaker 1: the game even started, from start to finish. In all
Speaker 1: three phases of the game, whether it be offense, whether
Speaker 1: it be defense. They dominated the game and the conditions.
Speaker 1: You can't use the conditions as a reasoning because yeah.
Speaker 5: Buffalo with it. Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: I was getting ready say the same thing. They were
Speaker 1: able to run their offense, they were able to play defense,
Speaker 1: they were able to do what they needed to do
Speaker 1: on special teams as well.
Speaker 3: They Listen, they dominated the game from start to finish.
Speaker 1: Josh Allen looks completely different than he did last year.
Speaker 1: Obviously they did have a winning season, but he's been
Speaker 1: superb and superior with protecting the football. Now, yeah, thro't
Speaker 1: get interceptions, but nothing to the point and what he
Speaker 1: did last.
Speaker 5: Year, nothing because what got him in trouble.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it got him in trouble, especially late in
Speaker 1: the season like this, and obviously once he got once,
Speaker 1: he also got into the playoffs. But listen, the way
Speaker 1: they're playing right now is I wouldn't be surprised.
Speaker 3: Obviously into also tonight. I want I want to also
Speaker 3: mention that they did when the AFC East, with tonight's win,
Speaker 3: they did when the East that.
Speaker 5: Were five, We used to go there already, chaps.
Speaker 1: Huh, Yeah, Listen, I think obviously, I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 1: toot my own horn for my team. I think if too,
Speaker 1: it doesn't go down. I think the Dolphins give them
Speaker 1: a uh a run for their money. But but obviously
Speaker 1: that didn't happen with two of being out for four
Speaker 1: or five games, whatever it may have been. But but
Speaker 1: congratulating to the Buffalo Bills and Josh Allen.
Speaker 3: They look good.
Speaker 1: I want to see what they do in the playoffs, though.
Speaker 1: I want to see that that's all in that. I
Speaker 1: want to see that if they can, if they can
Speaker 1: play this way in the postseason, there's a good chance
Speaker 1: we see the guy. Damn Buffalo Bills will represent the
Speaker 1: A and got Dan New Orleans.
Speaker 2: I think the thing is oho is that Josh Allen
Speaker 2: has solidified himself as a top five quarterback because year
Speaker 2: in and year out, he has his team in the
Speaker 2: playoffs and for the most part, unless they're running the
Speaker 2: Kansas City, they go far.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they go far. I mean it's really that simple.
Speaker 2: They lost to Kansas City in the divisional round, they
Speaker 2: lost to him in the AFC Championship round, and they
Speaker 2: lost to him again in the divisional round. But he's
Speaker 2: been there every year, and he's forgreed. He's gotten better.
Speaker 2: He finished what second I think last year or maybe
Speaker 2: a couple maybe last year he finished second in the
Speaker 2: MVP voting. If everything stayed according to plan, he'll he'll
Speaker 2: probably win it this year. Ohoe, unless Saquan Goes goes
Speaker 2: over the twenty breaks that record, and then that might
Speaker 2: have something to say about it. And if he can
Speaker 2: somehow finago that number one seed away from the Lions.
Speaker 2: But right now, Josh Allen looks extremely well and he's
Speaker 2: not turning the football over, so he's not you know,
Speaker 2: helping his team and also helping the other team as well,
Speaker 2: because he was giving his team twenty one points, but
Speaker 2: he was giving the other team fourteen points with his turnovers.
Speaker 2: But he's done a better job of taking care of
Speaker 2: the football. I think McDermott. And what's the what's this
Speaker 2: coordinator's name? He came on last year because they fired
Speaker 2: I think Alex van Pel they fired him. This guy
Speaker 2: took over and with a whole year of this, Josh
Speaker 2: Allen looks different. He looks he's still Josh Allen. He's
Speaker 2: still an effect to be still can throw the football,
Speaker 2: he still can run, but what he's doing now, Ojo,
Speaker 2: He's giving you that same kind of offensive production.
Speaker 5: Minus the turnovers.
Speaker 2: Joe Brady, Joe Brady has done an unbelievable job. This
Speaker 2: looks like this looks like the Josh Allen that Brian
Speaker 2: daveall had. But even when they even when Dams had it,
Speaker 2: he was turning the ball over a lot more than
Speaker 2: what he should have.
Speaker 5: Now Joe Brady has it, and I don't know what
Speaker 5: he's saying.
Speaker 2: Look, Son, we can go really far, but you got
Speaker 2: to do a better job of taking care of the football,
Speaker 2: especially turning the ball over into Redson. Joe, he was
Speaker 2: throwing the intercept at the hands on they're about to
Speaker 2: go in for a touchdown, he's fumbling the ball.
Speaker 5: Go ahead.
Speaker 1: You know you know what he was like. You know
Speaker 1: what it remind me of. I'm sure you remember, and
Speaker 1: the people in the chat that are watching. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure how much you paid attention to Brett Favre, who
Speaker 1: used to take so many chances because his armstring.
Speaker 3: He was a gun san.
Speaker 1: Yes, so he felt there were certain times he could
Speaker 1: take a chance and he would try to win with
Speaker 1: his arm, and more times than not he would lose.
Speaker 1: Those occasions, you know, yes, but yes, Josh Allen, I
Speaker 1: see Josh Allen in that light a little bit. But
Speaker 1: this year, like you said, Joe Brady, I'm not sure
Speaker 1: what they told Josh Allen. He's still superman, but he's
Speaker 1: not being superman with his arm. He's doing it in
Speaker 1: other areas and other faces of his game as well,
Speaker 1: which is why they're playing so well and they've only
Speaker 1: lost two games this year.
Speaker 3: He is the unquestioned leader of that offense.
Speaker 2: And this is not to take a shot at anybody,
Speaker 2: but oh, show you know a quarterback. When you young
Speaker 2: like that and you got a veteran guy in front
Speaker 2: of you, sometimes you tend to like, Okay, I got
Speaker 2: to make sure I get him the ball. None of
Speaker 2: these guys, Marik Cooper is not a guy. He doesn't
Speaker 2: strike me as the guy. He's very quiet. He's not
Speaker 2: going to demand the demand of football like the other
Speaker 2: receivers would have in the past. And you look at
Speaker 2: your care and you look at what's the name, Holloway
Speaker 2: guy Hollands Holland he showed him to the game bread
Speaker 2: foot o shoe. Did you see him always?
Speaker 5: Hey?
Speaker 3: Don't he walked?
Speaker 2: He walked into the stadium barefooted. I ain't tried to
Speaker 2: catch the new Mona to prove no pot nobody but anyway.
Speaker 2: But I think the thing is with Josh Allen, he's
Speaker 2: really comfortable in this leadership role.
Speaker 5: As the unquestioned leader. He can go out there and focus.
Speaker 2: He doesn't have to worry about trying to force the
Speaker 2: football sometimes, Ojo. Every quarterback, great quarterback takes risk with
Speaker 2: their calculated.
Speaker 3: Risks at the right time, he was taking unnecessary risk.
Speaker 2: There's a difference between the two mathematic calculation and just
Speaker 2: just arbitrarily throwing the spraying the football over the field.
Speaker 5: That's what got him in trouble.
Speaker 2: That's what got the Bills is in trouble since he's
Speaker 2: done a better job of taking care of the football.
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody that.
Speaker 2: Watches the game casually or analytically can say this is
Speaker 2: not the best Josh Allen that we've seen, because it
Speaker 2: absolutely is. Absolutely He's still is effective running the football,
Speaker 2: he's still effective throwing the football. Minuster turnovers. So think
Speaker 2: about it. He give you the he'd give you the
Speaker 2: production on the ground with his leg. They seem that
Speaker 2: they can run it a little better. This year with
Speaker 2: James Cooks and Davis that they have in the past,
Speaker 2: and now he's still giving those productions. That production through
Speaker 2: the air minuster turnovers, so everything is increased, the turnovers
Speaker 2: has decreased. They look really good defensively. I was anxious
Speaker 2: to see because they like, look, they let Michael Hoie go,
Speaker 2: they let poor Jego to Davis White, win Von Miller.
Speaker 2: You know, he was coming back off of that injury.
Speaker 2: He had a little hiccup, you know, had to go
Speaker 2: sit down for four games. Matt Milano got injured, he returned,
Speaker 2: and so I was I was anxious to see how
Speaker 2: they were gonna look defensively because look, everybody's like, man,
Speaker 2: they're gonna take a step back. Officially, they lose Gave David,
Speaker 2: they lose steff On, and I'm like they might. But
Speaker 2: knowing the quarterbacks, because we saw Patrick Mahomes how he stood.
Speaker 5: He won two Super Bowls and an MVP.
Speaker 2: When Tyreek want to the most dangerous, if not the
Speaker 2: most dangerous receiver in football left. If Josh Allen is
Speaker 2: what we thought he was and what we think he
Speaker 2: is O Joe, he should be able to overcome back.
Speaker 2: Now he might not throw for forty touchdowns, close to
Speaker 2: forty touchdowns. But I believe he'll be a better quarterback.
Speaker 3: For that right man, he looks just go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 3: I'm going ready to tell you, despite what he did lose,
Speaker 3: because we put him in that upper echelon of quarterbacks,
Speaker 3: he's been able to overcome not having those number one target,
Speaker 3: number one target. But what you delating your team. Elevated
Speaker 3: the team by himself with his plate.
Speaker 2: That's what we asked the great quarterbacks to do. You
Speaker 2: are a rising tide. You're supposed to lift not just
Speaker 2: the mega y'all. You're supposed to lift the row boats,
Speaker 2: also the bass boat. It does not matter. It does
Speaker 2: not matter over kayak. If you are what we say
Speaker 2: you and present you to be, you should be able
Speaker 2: to lift those guys. And he's done that this year.
Speaker 2: But you know, defensively, they can get after. You got
Speaker 2: ed Oliver, you got Rousseau et Panessa, you got vond
Speaker 2: They've done a great job of getting after the quarterback.
Speaker 2: But the thing is, O Joe, and I don't know
Speaker 2: how much you played in the snow, but you can't
Speaker 2: have your normal gait. You have to understand. You try
Speaker 2: to take off like you Yeah, you got to chop. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm seeing the forty nine are slipping all over the place.
Speaker 1: Bro, you can't stride your normal stride pattern.
Speaker 3: You can't stop like you normally could. So, Bro, I
Speaker 3: don't know why.
Speaker 2: I just don't get it. Ojoe, I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think the guys have played enough in inclement weather.
Speaker 2: You have to change. When it's raining. You can't do
Speaker 2: your same stride pattern, right, you know what, try to
Speaker 2: stop on the Dame. I'm glad you said that. This
Speaker 2: is why I prefer playing on turf fields.
Speaker 1: Many players don't like turf fields like the feeling Chicago,
Speaker 1: I mean Chicago, like the feeling Cincinnati. Even if it
Speaker 1: was raining, you could run full sleet and stop because
Speaker 1: of the way the turf was made.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Now, when it's a much snow on the field, that
Speaker 1: much snow, or if you're playing on grass like you
Speaker 1: did in Denver, everything changes. You got to saying that,
Speaker 1: for one, before the game start, you need to get
Speaker 1: out there and test your cleats.
Speaker 3: Put them got nine nine studs right now, studs, several studs.
Speaker 3: Put them got damn seven studs on and learn how
Speaker 3: to chop your god damn feet. Yes you you can't.
Speaker 1: Like you said, your gate has to change and everything
Speaker 1: has to be short and quick. Short and quick is
Speaker 1: the only way you're going to be able to get
Speaker 1: out your break.
Speaker 2: And it's even harder, not o cho, because now the
Speaker 2: film the field it can't want it's not It can't
Speaker 2: melt the snow as fast as it's piling up, and
Speaker 2: they can't throw it off. So now you have to
Speaker 2: change it even more because your cleat has to go
Speaker 2: down through the snow. So now you got a layer
Speaker 2: between you and the field. So your situation, your gate
Speaker 2: has to be even have to be even better. Now
Speaker 2: some of this was the terrible angle that Brown took
Speaker 2: the safety bro I don't know what the.
Speaker 5: Hell you were going.
Speaker 2: That's your gap, Okay, they blocked down, they kickout, that's
Speaker 2: you and took Where the hell were you going on
Speaker 2: the first touchdown ward?
Speaker 1: You have fourth, you have contained. You can't let him outside.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, you're in.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's at rule number one. That's rule number one.
Speaker 1: At times, at times, I think at times sometimes they
Speaker 1: want to blame the weather, and then at times I
Speaker 1: want to I want to bame people making business decisions. Yes,
Speaker 1: I want to say people are making business decisions at
Speaker 1: that point. James Cook. I love James Cook, but he's
Speaker 1: not an imposing figure at the running back position. There
Speaker 1: should be no reason why you don't want to feel
Speaker 1: that hole. There should be no reason why you don't
Speaker 1: want to feel that gap. You know who you're supposed
Speaker 1: to be yet.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe. But here's the thing. The weather doesn't change
Speaker 2: your responsibility. See, that's the thing that people need to
Speaker 2: get through the head. If my responsibility is forced to contained,
Speaker 2: I don't give a damnage for it's raining. I don't
Speaker 2: care if it's eighty I don't care if it's seventy below.
Speaker 2: I still got contained. The condition doesn't change my responsibilities.
Speaker 2: Now it might. Now the weather might change how I
Speaker 2: go about it. But if you take a horrible angle,
Speaker 2: if you take a horrible angle and bad conditions, is
Speaker 2: gonna make even worse because you're gonna slip, slip and
Speaker 2: slide trying to recover.
Speaker 3: If you take a bad if you take a bad
Speaker 3: angle in.
Speaker 2: Ideal conditions, you still not gonna make the play. You
Speaker 2: have to understand your launch point. Where he is the
Speaker 2: rate he's coming towards you. I'm like, bro, what are
Speaker 2: y'all doing. It's almost like, oh Joe is like they go,
Speaker 2: They're just like I'm looking at him.
Speaker 5: I'm like, bro, I saw when he took up.
Speaker 2: I said, you got no if he's signs step, you
Speaker 2: got no change.
Speaker 1: At all at all. For one, you got to listen.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not a defender, but I do understand.
Speaker 1: You got to put yourself in position. You got to
Speaker 1: put your body in position. So even if he even
Speaker 1: if he does.
Speaker 3: Have a two way go, you have a chance to
Speaker 3: react the angle you takeing. I already knew one. James
Speaker 3: could make one move.
Speaker 1: It's over and you're not going to turn to catch.
Speaker 1: Nobody at a turn to catch who is in the NFL. Shit, No, no, absolutely.
Speaker 2: No, No, he's got a head of steam. But uh,
Speaker 2: but Buffalo look good. Buffalo has looked good.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: When Josh Allen takes care of the football, they look
Speaker 2: damn near unbeatable. Now they seem to be playing their
Speaker 2: best football at the right time. Oh Joe, this is
Speaker 2: one you want to playing great football. You want to
Speaker 2: be heading in the December member playing your best football,
Speaker 2: heading into January, playing your best football, and they look
Speaker 2: like they're playing that, and they're like, look, I understand,
Speaker 2: we understand the road to the Super Bowl in the
Speaker 2: AMC still go through Kansas City. But I sure, with
Speaker 2: like a crack at them, I sure, I just want
Speaker 2: my opportunity. Yeah, I know we've had several, but I
Speaker 2: wanted one more time and something tell me if they
Speaker 2: get it.
Speaker 1: If they get it this year, I got a feeling
Speaker 1: with the way they look and Josh Allen's understanding that
Speaker 1: if I can protect the ball and give my team
Speaker 1: a chance. With the way our defense is playing, obviously
Speaker 1: Milano's back, God Damn von Miller is playing good. I
Speaker 1: think they got a chance on and the way the
Speaker 1: Chiefs look right now, where they're barely scraping by with
Speaker 1: these wins and Nelly staring.
Speaker 2: By, their defense doesn't look as formidable as it did early,
Speaker 2: like it did last year, like it did at the
Speaker 2: beginning of the season, because we're starting to see team
Speaker 2: that we don't like hold on. Carolina got twenty seven
Speaker 2: against Oh yeah, Aidan O'Connor through for over three hundred yards,
Speaker 2: and if it wasn't for the mistake, Look, mistakes happened
Speaker 2: in the game. But I believe the teams that they're
Speaker 2: going to face are better offensively than some of the
Speaker 2: teams that they've struggled with. The question is, can you
Speaker 2: take care of the football? Can you put them in
Speaker 2: a situation because you got to protect the football. You've
Speaker 2: got to protect the football. If you protect the football,
Speaker 2: you give yourself a chance. If you don't, you play
Speaker 2: double once to play off here. Oh yeah, you pay,
Speaker 2: you pay a premium for turning the football over o Jo.
Speaker 5: How much better does Josh look without step On?
Speaker 1: He looks really good. I think the fact that he
Speaker 1: doesn't have to force the ball to anyone. He's not
Speaker 1: thinking about getting Steph the ball. I think not having,
Speaker 1: not having not having to worry about okay, it's Steph, Okay.
Speaker 1: It's hard. It's hard to say. He just looks better.
Speaker 1: I think the fact that he doesn't have that alpha.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have that alpha though he has to worry
Speaker 1: about feeding the ball and making sure he's okay. You know,
Speaker 1: at times when you have someone like that, that's an alpha,
Speaker 1: that's an outlet that you know you can go to
Speaker 1: and you can count on. That is a great thing.
Speaker 1: Having a dominant number one receiver like that. But yeah,
Speaker 1: times because Josh Allen is so good and he can
Speaker 1: overcome with his play and arm and legs without having
Speaker 1: an alpha alpha receiver like that, I think he's been Okay.
Speaker 1: Now many quarterbacks can overcome that. Josh Allen is in
Speaker 1: the class of his own. There may be four, maybe five,
Speaker 1: maybe five quarterbacks where you can take away they number one,
Speaker 1: they number one receivers or they're alpha receivers and they
Speaker 1: can still function and elevate that offense that they're that
Speaker 1: they're in control of.
Speaker 2: I think the thing that you have to have if
Speaker 2: you're dealing with a dominant personality like a number one receiver,
Speaker 2: because they normally have dominant personality. Oh yeah, sometimes they don't,
Speaker 2: but a lot of times they do. You need to
Speaker 2: be the veteran quarterback. You see, Montana was already established.
Speaker 2: He had already won two Super Bowls and a two
Speaker 2: Super Bowl MVP by the time Rice landed. And you
Speaker 2: have Marino so Duper, Mark Clayton, and Mark Duper ain't
Speaker 2: gonna trump him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: Jim Kelly, you're not gonna trump him.
Speaker 2: So you get guys that are already established and even
Speaker 2: though you have dominant personalities. I look and Tom says, Look,
Speaker 2: what I try to do is that I always tried
Speaker 2: to get Randon the ball early. And if I couldn't
Speaker 2: get him the ball earlier, I would go to him
Speaker 2: and tell him, Bro, we tried.
Speaker 5: Now we're gonna get you Rock. Just stay with me,
Speaker 5: Stay with me.
Speaker 2: I got to keep him in a positive mind frame
Speaker 2: because the last thing I.
Speaker 5: Want to do is lose it.
Speaker 2: Because and the teams need to understand, Bro, how you
Speaker 2: won't be to hit the game winning shot when you
Speaker 2: haven't thrown me the ball the entire game?
Speaker 5: Who hit?
Speaker 3: Who?
Speaker 5: You can't ask?
Speaker 2: Steph Curry looks, step Hey, we want you to feed Clay,
Speaker 2: want you to feed Draymond, want you to feed all
Speaker 2: these other guys.
Speaker 3: Oh we down too, Hey, Steph?
Speaker 5: You ready?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 5: Hello? The whole night, right?
Speaker 2: I think I think that's what a receiver said, if
Speaker 2: you give it to a guy earlier. O, Joe, you
Speaker 2: know this. You and I both caught the ball for
Speaker 2: a living good. Give it to me early. You got
Speaker 2: me late?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just need to feel it. I just need
Speaker 5: to feel it a couple of times.
Speaker 1: Okay, hey, listen now lay in the ball game. We're good,
Speaker 1: don't I don't need it much. I don't need it much.
Speaker 1: Throw me a smoke, throw your screen, throw me a slam. Yes,
Speaker 1: let me touch the ball, let me get myself into
Speaker 1: a rhythm of the game. I'm not gonna force the issue.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna allow the game come to me. I'm allowed
Speaker 1: the game to come to me. I'm just saying when
Speaker 1: I was, when I was with Carson, coach Barbara Krowsky,
Speaker 1: I never figured coach Barbara Crowsey was the officer coordinator.
Speaker 1: My receiver coach at the time was Hugh Jackson. I
Speaker 1: tell Hugh before the game started, I tell Carson, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna bother you.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say nothing to you.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 1: What I will do at times is I'll come out
Speaker 1: of the huddle where I feel the floor of the
Speaker 1: game is not going to my favor or going in
Speaker 1: my direction.
Speaker 3: I'll let you know. I never ate as voicious and
Speaker 3: then as flamboyant as I was.
Speaker 1: I have a ball that Carson during the game. But
Speaker 1: what I would do is when he had called a
Speaker 1: play and before I lead a huddle, you know what
Speaker 1: I do. I tap his hip. I tap his hip,
Speaker 1: just alert him. I'm not gonna say nothing to you.
Speaker 1: Just know in the back of your mind. Then I
Speaker 1: get to the last scrimmage, right and he making this
Speaker 1: call and I see something, well, I know I can
Speaker 1: take advantage based on the play that was called. I
Speaker 1: do my famous thing. He hat that's it. You get
Speaker 1: that bitch Calloway out outside the stadium. So he come on, now,
Speaker 1: come on seeing things and not go on my way.
Speaker 1: Just let me touch it, let me feel it. But
Speaker 1: I didn't want to use my voice at all because
Speaker 1: you hear it.
Speaker 3: Take that one. I'm not trumping him. I'm not trumping
Speaker 3: him no matter what I've done.
Speaker 2: What he And that's the thing. I just say, give
Speaker 2: me a look, say he just give me a look
Speaker 2: right right. You block it on this one, I said,
Speaker 2: I'm a leak late. If you get in trouble, hey,
Speaker 2: you right, I'll block it. I'll block it on that
Speaker 2: without Joe. But if you get in trouble out, leak
Speaker 2: out right there. Give a place to go with the ball.
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying, Oh, Joe, Kyle Shanahan said. Christian
Speaker 2: McCaffrey suffered the potentially seasoned ending pc L injury.
Speaker 1: Ah, wait, that was non contact or was the previously
Speaker 1: when he got tripped up?
Speaker 3: Do you think it happened?
Speaker 2: They showed They showed that play, but you knew as
Speaker 2: soon as like that knee buckle when he took off,
Speaker 2: you could see that knee buckle and then he like
Speaker 2: gave himself up, so you knew something.
Speaker 5: I was like, damn, did it? Is it the key leads?
Speaker 5: Did the calv go?
Speaker 2: But Kyle Shanahan just said this press conference kissed Christian
Speaker 2: McCaffrey sofered a potentially seasoned ending.
Speaker 5: It's over. It don't make any sense. Is he missing?
Speaker 3: Was it the same leg? Was it the same leg
Speaker 3: that he just I think I think it was his
Speaker 3: right one the plan. I think it was his right
Speaker 3: what do you call it? Planet fat Fasciit.
Speaker 2: No, he had a he had a calf injury that
Speaker 2: led into his aki lees and and to think, oh, Joe,
Speaker 2: and you know the thing is is that I say
Speaker 2: all the time, if you limp into the.
Speaker 3: Season, don't get healthy during the season. Impossible. It's impossible.
Speaker 2: The number one thing when anybody have surgery or anybody
Speaker 2: have an injury, what did they tell you. The most
Speaker 2: important thing on your rest rest, how you get rest.
Speaker 2: He's working the dog crap out of you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm simple, listen.
Speaker 1: They can only they can only protect you so much
Speaker 1: because in order to get you back to the playing
Speaker 1: speed and get you acclimated to game tempo, you got
Speaker 1: the work, some type of work you got to once
Speaker 1: they put you out there with the bullets of firing
Speaker 1: them boys.
Speaker 3: The boys are moving. Damn.
Speaker 1: I'm sad. I'm sad for him, man, I'm sad for man.
Speaker 1: Prayers up the lash.
Speaker 2: Buffalo clinch the fifth straight AFC title, setting a new
Speaker 2: franchise record. Buffalo had previously won four AFC titles consecutive
Speaker 2: eighty eight through ninety one. That was also the years
Speaker 2: that they you know, they ended up going to the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. When where they went to Super Bowl ninety
Speaker 2: ninety one, ninety two, ninety three. But Buffalo played extremely
Speaker 2: well tonight. They got it done. It wasn't that San
Speaker 2: Francisco play. They turned the ball over old show. But
Speaker 2: they had some opportunities and they got into the red
Speaker 2: zone and they had to settle for field goals, use
Speaker 2: chick fumble, butchercockend to let the ball slip out of
Speaker 2: his hand, party debo fumble to kickoff.
Speaker 5: They had some opportunities.
Speaker 2: When you're on the road and you're playing against a
Speaker 2: team that seemingly got it going, you have to cash
Speaker 2: in on all your opportunities as well. The game of
Speaker 2: the day, the Eagles defeated the Ravens twenty four to nineteen.
Speaker 2: Justin Tucker has lost multiple games this season and left
Speaker 2: seven points off the board tonight. He continued this season
Speaker 2: long struggles by missing two field goals and a pat
Speaker 2: one from forty seven, one from forty three. His two
Speaker 2: fail the field goals came in the third when Baltimore
Speaker 2: trailed fourteen to twelve. If this is the first time
Speaker 2: that he's missed three kicks in the game, and he
Speaker 2: put Major Dann the AFC in the Ravens opportunity to
Speaker 2: win the North. Tucker has missed eight field goals, but
Speaker 2: he's missed ten kicks if I'm not mistaken, eight field
Speaker 2: goals and two PAHs this season, which is a single
Speaker 2: season high. Harbard is sticking with Tucker. We saw him
Speaker 2: go to them on the sideline say we believe in you.
Speaker 2: You hugged him. If you're asking me are we going
Speaker 2: to move on from Justin Tucker. I'm not really planning
Speaker 2: doing that right now.
Speaker 3: I don't think that would be wise. WHOA did you
Speaker 3: hear the keywords you just said? I don't like that.
Speaker 3: I don't like that. Did he say right now or
Speaker 3: did you just add that in here?
Speaker 5: No, he said that right now. I don't plan on
Speaker 5: doing that right now.
Speaker 2: I don't I'm not really planning on doing that right now.
Speaker 5: I don't think that be wise.
Speaker 3: I don't like that.
Speaker 1: Listen, let me let me tell you something. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you something. Talk to us also also the chat chat,
Speaker 1: y'all listen to me.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: I know I player around a lot, you know when
Speaker 1: it comes to saying some of the things that I've done,
Speaker 1: but all of you know my history and my resume
Speaker 1: as a kicker, especially in the NFL.
Speaker 3: I know what that feels like.
Speaker 1: I understand the pressures that go into what Justin Tucker
Speaker 1: is going through right now. I understand the pressures of
Speaker 1: already having the moniker being the greatest kicker of all
Speaker 1: time based on what you did in the past.
Speaker 3: But what you've done in the past when it comes
Speaker 3: to the NFL is always now. Yeah, I ain't got
Speaker 3: nothing doing. Now, what have you done for me lately?
Speaker 3: Right now?
Speaker 1: I don't watch much baseball, but I can tell what
Speaker 1: Justin is in. He's in a slump. Yeah, he's in
Speaker 1: a slump. Sometimes he got the yips right now, you
Speaker 1: got you got the yips right now? Justin Tucker is
Speaker 1: in a slump. And you know what happened when players
Speaker 1: in a slump, it gets to you here. You have
Speaker 1: to be mentally strong here for one and know what
Speaker 1: to get back into rhythm, to get back to what
Speaker 1: you were doing in the past. Being the Justin Tucker
Speaker 1: that we're used to seeing. You got to envision that
Speaker 1: motherfucker up here right now is get into it.
Speaker 3: He can think about missing the kicks before he even
Speaker 3: kicked the ball, which is why he's missing the kicks.
Speaker 2: And it's always and they seem to be always very
Speaker 2: into the left. They're always very if you look at him,
Speaker 2: they're bearing into the left.
Speaker 3: That's kind of like, that's all mechanics, baby, that's all mechanics.
Speaker 3: That's all mechanics.
Speaker 1: On your follow through, on your swing, you gotta stop
Speaker 1: your leg at a certain point if it's always veering
Speaker 1: to the left. If anything adjust, adjust your split, adjust
Speaker 1: your linement, face the ball up a different way because
Speaker 1: everything's happening and reoccur in the same way kickers watch film.
Speaker 3: I'm a kicker. I'm telling you. I know some of
Speaker 3: you might laugh at me. I'm serious, I know, I
Speaker 3: know what it is.
Speaker 1: I know what Justin Tucker's going through. He's going to
Speaker 1: be all right. I don't like the words that Harpall said,
Speaker 1: if he's going to be alright this year, Yeah, I do.
Speaker 3: I don't like that. I don't like that. You don't know,
Speaker 3: he don't do the best kicker in the world like
Speaker 3: that just because he's going through a slump, because you
Speaker 3: have quarterbacks. Quarterback go through slump too.
Speaker 1: Sometimes even the best go through a bad season or
Speaker 1: a bad stringer game where they just can't get themselves
Speaker 1: out of a punk.
Speaker 3: But at some point they turn it around.
Speaker 1: Especially at the addition, once he gets it here, you
Speaker 1: got the visualize it here.
Speaker 3: Once you visualize it here and get that confidence back,
Speaker 3: he'll be fine.
Speaker 2: The question is is he gonna get it back this year,
Speaker 2: because it doesn't matter if he gets it back next
Speaker 2: year because they're trying to make the playoffs this year
Speaker 2: and how many times have the Ravens. He kicked the
Speaker 2: Ravens to the Super Bowl as a rookie, as an
Speaker 2: undrafted rookie, he went to Denver and made the game
Speaker 2: winning kicked and that launched him. That put him on
Speaker 2: his way. We've seen guys. You mentioned the sport of
Speaker 2: you go back to look at golf. You look at
Speaker 2: David dub Duval, You look at Ian Baker Finch, they
Speaker 2: had the yips.
Speaker 5: You mentioned baseball.
Speaker 2: Look at Chuck knock Block, Look at Rick and kell
Speaker 2: Rick am Kell had to move to the outfield because
Speaker 2: he couldn't get the ball over home plate. Chuck knod
Speaker 2: Block could not throw the ball. He's a second basement.
Speaker 2: He could not throw it to the first basement. Steve
Speaker 2: sat a similar situation.
Speaker 3: It's half.
Speaker 1: We've seen guys do it, and they David Duval left,
Speaker 1: Ian Baker Fitch didn't end up leaving because they couldn't
Speaker 1: punt right. Freakaing Kill moved to the outfield because he
Speaker 1: could not throw the ball over the plate.
Speaker 2: But it's it's and it's it's, it's, it's it's tough.
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson did not play a good game today. Oho U,
Speaker 2: he really never found this rhythm. Had most multiple fumbles,
Speaker 2: but he recovered those. Had a lot of overthrows he had.
Speaker 2: He had likely he could have hit likely on that play.
Speaker 2: I think it was in the second quarter. Shot the corner,
Speaker 2: out the corner ut. Yeah, he shot him a little bit.
Speaker 5: Yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yo shot.
Speaker 2: Likely stop running like, well, he gotta be throwing that
Speaker 2: to somebody else, because hey, he running, he saw where
Speaker 2: the ball going, so he just stopped me like with
Speaker 2: somebody out of the front of me, and then he
Speaker 2: come back and then defumbled the ball.
Speaker 1: He was six and fifteen on third down. The touchdown
Speaker 1: that they got.
Speaker 2: Oo, that was late in the game because if they
Speaker 2: don't get that touchdown the shutout in the second hall.
Speaker 2: Lamar said his mother cursed him out after the game
Speaker 2: for not running more and not hitting the running lades.
Speaker 2: The Ravens finished two of five in the red zone.
Speaker 2: He didn't play well today. You know, on a day
Speaker 2: in which the defense they held they held, they held
Speaker 2: at Hell and they was needing Lamar to be Lamar.
Speaker 2: It didn't happen for him today.
Speaker 3: You know what. One of the things that watched the
Speaker 3: night I love Lamar.
Speaker 1: I love that Lamar has proved that, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm not just a run of the ball. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: show you I can pass. I'm gonna show you I
Speaker 1: can pass. Listen, I know you could pass the ball,
Speaker 1: young bull. But I need you to be special. You know,
Speaker 1: on nights like to night and games like to night,
Speaker 1: I need you to be special of what makes you you.
Speaker 1: I need you to do what you was doing at
Speaker 1: Boyd and Beach High School when I used to go
Speaker 1: watch you out there when you was a legit. Take
Speaker 1: off with the ball, baby, if it ain't there. Sometimes
Speaker 1: you got to go through progression one, two, and three.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you can look at one.
Speaker 3: If one ain't there, man, take off and go with
Speaker 3: that thing. Bright. Sometimes you got to go off script.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you got the go off.
Speaker 1: Script and do what makes you you your specially your
Speaker 1: two time MVP.
Speaker 3: For a reason, I would have loved to see the
Speaker 3: Ravens win the game tonight. I would have loved for it.
Speaker 3: Especially when your kicker is not playing as well as
Speaker 3: he should be. Who has to.
Speaker 1: Overcome that Lamar eight When Lamar is the one that
Speaker 1: has to overcome justin Tucker not playing as good as
Speaker 1: he should be so.
Speaker 3: Those points you're missing.
Speaker 1: That puts the pressure to on is back on the
Speaker 1: quarterback to overcome the kickers woes. Yeah, sometimes you don't
Speaker 1: funk that being the pass of ship boy, drop back
Speaker 1: of that shit and there man, take off of that bitch.
Speaker 3: Sometimes I person, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. God
Speaker 3: forgive me.
Speaker 2: I do I do think sometimes Lamar tries to prove
Speaker 2: that he's a thrower of the football.
Speaker 1: He is ready, he's ready, So why is his mom
Speaker 1: cussing him out? So?
Speaker 5: What was the difference today?
Speaker 3: Hey, you heard what she said? Right?
Speaker 1: Well? Yeah, when you see the running lanes, what take
Speaker 1: off and do what you do?
Speaker 3: What you mean? You dangerous, Jesse Davis?
Speaker 5: Aw you are.
Speaker 1: You've already shown us you're just as dangerous with your
Speaker 1: arm as you are with your legs. But tonight is
Speaker 1: the night where we needed your legs, not your arm.
Speaker 2: But we had this conversation in the AFC Championship game.
Speaker 2: You asked after the game, why did Lamar run more?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 2: Why do we keep having these conversations in these big,
Speaker 2: meaningful games where we keep saying, Lamar, why aren't you
Speaker 2: running the football more?
Speaker 5: Why are we continuously having these conversations, O Joe.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know, baby, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't know who to what, because what are you
Speaker 5: trying to prove? Who can?
Speaker 2: You've proved that you've led the league in touchdown passes.
Speaker 2: You got twenty nine touchdown passes. It's gonna be you
Speaker 2: and bur Joe Burrow probably lead the league in touchdown
Speaker 2: passes this year. At this point in time, the only
Speaker 2: thing left for you to prove, Lamar, is that you
Speaker 2: can get to in Winnsop Bowl.
Speaker 3: That's it. The only thing that's left for you to
Speaker 3: prove only that, by any means necessary.
Speaker 1: Yes on throwing it, running it, crawling it, wheel chair.
Speaker 3: I don't care. I don't care how you got to
Speaker 3: get there, God damn, and just get there so we
Speaker 3: can get these motherfuckers off your back.
Speaker 2: That's there will come a time, by any means, there
Speaker 2: will come a time that he will need to Like
Speaker 2: I'm going to force Lamar Jackson to throw the football.
Speaker 2: I'm a firm believer that I would rather. I know
Speaker 2: he can kill me with his leg. I just can't
Speaker 2: let him outside the pocket. I can't let him. I
Speaker 2: can't let him outside the pocket, Ojo, because he's too
Speaker 2: dangerous side there and he can throw the ball over
Speaker 2: my head.
Speaker 5: So I got to keep him in. I gotta keep
Speaker 5: him in the box.
Speaker 2: Now, I'm gonna try to make sure that I got
Speaker 2: a spy to entice him, like, okay, I got somebody's spying,
Speaker 2: and I won't him. I want to trick him into thinking, yeah,
Speaker 2: go ahead, throw from the pocket. But you're playing into
Speaker 2: my hands, because that's really why I want you anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's why I want you.
Speaker 1: But listen this, this is a good thing about it.
Speaker 1: This is a good thing about the evolution of Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: This is about how good he's gotten even as a
Speaker 1: pocket passer.
Speaker 3: Okay, you want to put a spy.
Speaker 1: Okay back okay, boom, you want to hear your DNS,
Speaker 1: rush your field and keep contained. But I can beat
Speaker 1: you from the pocket. I prove that I can beat
Speaker 1: you from the pocket and be a throw of the ball.
Speaker 1: I then shows you I.
Speaker 3: Can drop back, I can be a shotgun, I can
Speaker 3: r PO. I could I play action faith and read
Speaker 3: through my progressions for one to three.
Speaker 1: I can't even come back the one that I got
Speaker 1: enough time. I can buy myself time, I can go
Speaker 1: off script, I can do all these different things from
Speaker 1: the pocket. So now that makes me that much more
Speaker 1: dangerous and multi dimensional from the quarterback position. I just
Speaker 1: don't like the fact that to me, it seems like
Speaker 1: sometimes Lamar wants to prove, especially tonight. Yes, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: show you I can beat you with my arm. Yes,
Speaker 1: when we know how to push you all with your legs.
Speaker 1: It's the reason God gave you that gift. Boy, I
Speaker 1: need you again. I know, I know mar gonna see
Speaker 1: this too. I know you're gonna see this well. I
Speaker 1: need you like you did when he was at Boy
Speaker 1: and Beach. Huh, stop playing now, come on, oh matter
Speaker 1: of fact, Oh wait, wait, wait the Ravens last night.
Speaker 1: Can you please tell me how many carried Derrick Henry
Speaker 1: had d Henry had nineteen for eighty two.
Speaker 3: Ah, so he was over he was over the sixteen
Speaker 3: yard mark.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was thirty two.
Speaker 2: They had They had thirty two rush attempts for one
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty six yards, which ain't bad.
Speaker 5: You can live with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Lamar was twenty three or thirty six, two thirty seven.
Speaker 5: He got sacked three times. I thought.
Speaker 2: I thought the Eagles d line did an unbelievable job
Speaker 2: of getting at there. Yeah, Jalen Carter as a monster. Yeah,
Speaker 2: this is what I this is what Jalen Carter was
Speaker 2: supposed to be a top five pick. I'm not so
Speaker 2: sure he was had he not had all those off
Speaker 2: the field transgressions while he was in college. He a
Speaker 2: top He's a top three talent. He could rush the
Speaker 2: path and he could stop the run. He's relentless. He's
Speaker 2: starting to see just how good he can beat. He's
Speaker 2: the guy that you start circling. But I thought their
Speaker 2: defensive line did an unbelievable job of rushing containing Lamar. Lamar, Look, Lamar,
Speaker 2: you can't jump. You can't run up the field on
Speaker 2: him now because you're gonna jump out the window.
Speaker 5: Yeah, be gone.
Speaker 2: I thought sweat, And I thought some of those other
Speaker 2: guys did an unbelievable job for they got that Bron.
Speaker 5: That's Zach Bron that minute fifty three.
Speaker 6: Yeah boy, he nice boy, Well he nice boy?
Speaker 5: Hey and No.
Speaker 2: Number thirty three, Oh disc old discount Jason seehorn John, Yeah, man, he.
Speaker 3: Gets hold on which one black and ship.
Speaker 5: Thirty three The fans kid from over the corner.
Speaker 3: What's his name?
Speaker 1: Man Blankenship thirty two, Hey coop with the JOHNO.
Speaker 3: With John Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: He's nice, he's nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Man. They did a great job.
Speaker 2: But you think about it, think about the great catcher,
Speaker 2: because Lamar was a lot.
Speaker 1: He was high all day long. It was Mark Andrews
Speaker 1: made some unbelievab that that's down catch an end zone.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, he called he caught one in the
Speaker 3: field like that. That's what you call a billion quarterback out. Yes, hey,
Speaker 3: mayor your quarterback out.
Speaker 5: The raven was two or five in the red zone.
Speaker 2: And I think the thing is ojo is that look
Speaker 2: in a situation like that, when your kicker is struggling,
Speaker 2: you got a hey guys, he's struggling today. Guys, Hey,
Speaker 2: we got to do a better job. We got to
Speaker 2: get this ball in the end zone. We gotta make
Speaker 2: it pats. Now, he hooked one of those, but I
Speaker 2: would pay at least we got six because when we
Speaker 2: put it on his foot, we might not get anything.
Speaker 2: Because it was fourteen to twelve and he missed two
Speaker 2: kicks that could have made it eighteen fourteen.
Speaker 5: But damn, I don't. I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't like what I'm seeing from the Ravens, O Joe,
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't because they don't look like the
Speaker 2: team you remember, like the first say, nine weeks of
Speaker 2: the season. How good they look running the football with
Speaker 2: them and Lamar throwing it, excuse me, d Henry running it?
Speaker 3: Very good.
Speaker 5: They looked really really good. Good.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at this team right now, Oh Joe, I
Speaker 2: don't see the same I don't see the same team.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And and defensive they played a little better today. They
Speaker 2: didn't give up the big they didn't give up the
Speaker 2: big players throw at the football. The jaylen Hurst was
Speaker 2: oh Joe, yes, sir. They had two hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: two yards of total offense. They was leven of nineteen.
Speaker 2: Jayalen Hurst was leven of nineteen, one hundred and eighteen
Speaker 2: yards of a touchdown.
Speaker 3: They ran the ball thirty three times for one.
Speaker 1: Listen. It was a good showing, though. It was a
Speaker 1: good showing I mean for the for the raven defensively,
Speaker 1: especially obviously they hold their their secondary.
Speaker 3: Uh they might they did last bro.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're not. They cannot do it.
Speaker 1: They got damn dead last, and they did very well
Speaker 1: trying to contain Sequan. We didn't see Saquan hit his
Speaker 1: head off the goalpost going for sixty and seventy yards.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had a twenty five yard of that that
Speaker 2: touchdown run, it was twenty five yards.
Speaker 5: He ended up with twenty three cares for one oh seven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So he's a I think he's at fourteen ninety
Speaker 2: nine currently right now, because he's at thirteen ninety two,
Speaker 2: so I think he's at fourteen ninety nine.
Speaker 5: He still has a chance.
Speaker 2: He has five games left, yeah, to get to average
Speaker 2: like one hundred and twenty yards to get two thousand.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean he's gonna really have to pick up the
Speaker 2: pace to get twenty one oh five. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: but they say he's on pace to get twenty one
Speaker 2: to twenty one. What's he on pace to get now?
Speaker 2: As is he on pace to break the record?
Speaker 3: Oh? Hey, put it up here. What's who they got next?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: If he plays in all seventeen games, he has a chance.
Speaker 5: He's on pace to get twenty one twenty three.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 5: He also caught two passes for ten yards.
Speaker 2: The NFL record is set by ed twenty one o
Speaker 2: five in nineteen eighty four. But EDI didn't think about it.
Speaker 2: EDI didn't win the MVP that season, Damn Marino did
Speaker 2: because that was what your dandy threw for forty forty
Speaker 2: eight touchdowns and five thousand yards.
Speaker 3: I mean, to throw for five thousand yards in that era?
Speaker 2: Do you understand how good that that wash?
Speaker 5: With all the holding, with.
Speaker 2: All the physicality, the quarterback knocking your I mean the
Speaker 2: d line, the defense knocking your quarterback out, they're killing
Speaker 2: your receivers, and he threw for five thousand.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's due. That was duper. And Clayton.
Speaker 2: Now, I wonder who the tight end was then? I
Speaker 2: think they had Crash Jenson. Jim Jensen might have been
Speaker 2: one of the tight ends.
Speaker 3: What about who is the running back?
Speaker 5: You think? If I'm not mistaken, I think it was
Speaker 5: Tony Nathan.
Speaker 3: Tony Nathan throwback.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh that's dope, man, that's dope.
Speaker 2: And Jim Jensen Dan Johnson, Dan Johnson, Uh yeah.
Speaker 5: Oh man.
Speaker 2: Look, I mean if somebody would have told me that
Speaker 2: jayalen Hurst would only throw for one hundred and eighteen
Speaker 2: yards or a touchdown and they would only have two
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty two yards I'll say, well, the Raven's
Speaker 2: gonna win. Yeah, Well, I said the Ravens gonna win
Speaker 2: a game.
Speaker 1: But they could have won the game. They could win
Speaker 1: the game. Obviously, there were some kicks that would miss.
Speaker 1: There's some other things that didn't go in their way,
Speaker 1: didn't go in their favor. I think if we got
Speaker 1: the Lamar Jackson that were used to seeing that would
Speaker 1: be able to back and overcome the kickers roes. I
Speaker 1: think the raven will win that game. They have to
Speaker 1: play better. Lamar has to play better. He knows that
Speaker 1: he's going to go back and look at film and say, well, god, damn,
Speaker 1: this one here, this is a chance why I should
Speaker 1: have took that bitch down and god, dog is stop cursing, man,
Speaker 1: I should have took the ball down and ran with
Speaker 1: and't do it. I do best, And stop trying to
Speaker 1: sit in the park and buy time and buy time
Speaker 1: trying to be off script, waiting on somebody to pop open.
Speaker 2: Well, they're running out of time because uh the Steelers. Yeah,
Speaker 2: uh say quality is on pace the challenge, but get
Speaker 2: the record. Uh he's on pace now for twenty five
Speaker 2: hundred and one yards, the record for most total yards
Speaker 2: of the season is twenty five oh nine by Chris Johnson.
Speaker 2: Philly win the eighth straight and leaves the Eagles ten
Speaker 2: and one, one game behind the Lions for the top
Speaker 2: seed in the NFC. The Eagles are two and a
Speaker 2: half games up onas on the for the East lead
Speaker 2: over the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 3: Oh choe yo. Whatever.
Speaker 1: The Steelers defeats the Bengals, say, say that for last man,
Speaker 1: say that for last.
Speaker 5: No, no, we gotta get this one right now.
Speaker 2: The Steelers defeated the Bengals forty four to thirty eight shootout.
Speaker 2: Not only did the defense off excuse me, the offense
Speaker 2: moved the ball it will, but the Steelers defense forced
Speaker 2: three turnovers, including a fourth quarter scoop and score by
Speaker 2: Peyton Wilson. Pickings led to Steelers with seventy four yards
Speaker 2: receiving or three catches with a touchdown, but drew a
Speaker 2: fifty but drew fifteen yard penoties after two of its catches.
Speaker 2: After the game, Pikins said there was anything he needed
Speaker 2: to do differently in those situations. Tomlin said he just
Speaker 2: got to grow up. This is an emotional game. These
Speaker 2: divisional games are big. He got a target on his
Speaker 2: back because he's George. He understands that. But he's got
Speaker 2: to grow up. He's just got to grow up in hurry. Yeah,
Speaker 2: gotta cost your game in the playoff for yo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean George Georgia. Listen, I'm an hit young bull,
Speaker 1: I got I got Georgie number. I'm gonna talk to him. Listen.
Speaker 3: Take some of that, Take some of that fun, you know,
Speaker 3: some of that energy that you display, that is that
Speaker 3: you're being penalized for, and turn that into entertainment. Turn
Speaker 3: it into entertainment. It's okay to be the villain. Enjoy
Speaker 3: being the villain.
Speaker 1: Embrace being a villain, but do it in a way
Speaker 1: where it's organized chaos within the game of football. Have
Speaker 1: fun within the game of football without having to get
Speaker 1: those penoties. I'm telling is gonna pay dividends in the
Speaker 1: long run. He has to understand that, you know, the
Speaker 1: gun gesture, you know in the end zone, you know after.
Speaker 3: Oh, but but you know you can't do that.
Speaker 2: And I know Chad fans, I know their guns and
Speaker 2: bullets don't kill anybody.
Speaker 3: But the NFL said, we don't walk fast.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: If your boss tell you cannot come to work, with
Speaker 2: Kathy Khakis. Don't bring your hands to work with Kaki.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't get it.
Speaker 5: Oyo. We knew, oh yo.
Speaker 2: If we wren socks a certain height, the NFL said,
Speaker 2: we want you to pull we want your knees covered.
Speaker 2: I expected to get a fine if I meant more
Speaker 2: than two players and I didn't pull my socks up.
Speaker 3: But you can't say, well, what did the sauce?
Speaker 2: And I said, and I used to ask all the time,
Speaker 2: what is my soce got to do? They say, Shannon,
Speaker 2: we want uniformity, They said, Shannon, if we let you
Speaker 2: do yours and then somebody gonna come out there with footies,
Speaker 2: and then somebody gonna come out here, and then everybody
Speaker 2: gonna start to looking like an all tournament team. They said,
Speaker 2: we want to We say we want everybody. We want
Speaker 2: every We want uniformity. Shanna, We're the National Football League
Speaker 2: and we're trying to set example. I say, okay, but
Speaker 2: oh show they you remember they cut that out before
Speaker 2: you got to the league, the throat slashing gesture.
Speaker 3: They cut that out. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, expects you to.
Speaker 5: But Johnson would do.
Speaker 2: Cut that out anything anything violent or sexual in nature.
Speaker 2: Air humping. Ain't got nothing to do. Ain't nobody ever
Speaker 2: got pregned by air humping. Dry drive, no dry hunter.
Speaker 3: But they cut it out. They cut it out, but
Speaker 3: they cut it out. So Pete fans please stop saying.
Speaker 1: Because you know the rule, George knows the rules, you
Speaker 1: can't do that. You know what, and especially outside of
Speaker 1: knowing the rules, you got to understand and to remember
Speaker 1: those rules when you engaged in war, at the time
Speaker 1: of war, when you plan, you got to remember that.
Speaker 3: All they need to do. I'm telling you, uncle, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna talk to him. I'm gonna talk to him. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna hit it tomorrow. I'm bruh. You need to take
Speaker 3: that same energy and the stuff you want to do
Speaker 3: and turn it into something else in a fun entertainment
Speaker 3: type of way where it's it's engaging for us and
Speaker 3: for those watching, where it doesn't cost your team. There's
Speaker 3: a way to do it. I'm massive that ship. You
Speaker 3: know that's a way to do it.
Speaker 1: You know, yes, as far as your player is concerned, man,
Speaker 1: you good keep on playing ball. But I don't want
Speaker 1: this is what I don't want, because the young, because
Speaker 1: the young. So coach Tomin has to be careful. But
Speaker 1: what he say, because you don't want to lose a
Speaker 1: player like that up here, up here, You don't want
Speaker 1: to take too much.
Speaker 3: You don't want to pull the reins back too much
Speaker 3: for the herd because you're gonna lose what makes George
Speaker 3: picking George pickings. But you can't hurt your team like that.
Speaker 3: Though you can't thank you, you can't. We just saw
Speaker 3: this on Thursday with Jamison with Williams. We just saw
Speaker 3: it Thursday. He threw the ball in the guy's face.
Speaker 3: Remember a sideline. We just saw it.
Speaker 1: O jo.
Speaker 2: If if even if I'm speeding, if I'm going eight
Speaker 2: in the school zone, I.
Speaker 5: Can't tell them fool.
Speaker 3: Ain't no kids in school?
Speaker 1: You can't go hate in the school and the schools
Speaker 1: on bro It's still a school.
Speaker 3: Zone, whether the kids are in school or not.
Speaker 1: You can't make that gesture even if you have no gun,
Speaker 1: even if there is no bullet.
Speaker 2: You can't make a sexual gesture. You can't make a
Speaker 2: violent gesture. So please chat, please, people stay off the
Speaker 2: internet talking about eight no guns. Ain't nobody elver been
Speaker 2: killed by that? Because you can't do it. The league says,
Speaker 2: we're going to penalize you. But it's not the league
Speaker 2: penalizing you. You're penalizing your team now.
Speaker 3: And it hurts you today, but it catch it when
Speaker 3: it matters most.
Speaker 2: Now you expected you get an unspontable conduct penalty, and
Speaker 2: now what was a field goal? They back you up
Speaker 2: because a lot of times, O Joe, that's after the fact.
Speaker 2: Now they back you up. What happens if it's second
Speaker 2: down and you get one of those the down counts
Speaker 2: so and now instead of being second and five, its
Speaker 2: second and twenty, or it's third and five, third and twenty,
Speaker 2: it's third and fifteen. You see, it's things like that
Speaker 2: you have to think about in real time.
Speaker 1: O Jo.
Speaker 2: It's too late for you and not to have this conversation, said,
Speaker 2: Oh Joe. We try to tell him it's too late. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's too late.
Speaker 3: So just learn.
Speaker 2: From others from that have made those mistakes, so you
Speaker 2: don't have to be a footnote got a cost of penalty?
Speaker 2: I don't, oh Joe, But I try to tell you now.
Speaker 2: Now people will tell you Joe Burrow played great. O Jo,
Speaker 2: might come out here and tell you Joe Barro played great.
Speaker 2: His defense If your defense is bad, ojo as an offense.
Speaker 2: What can't you do if your defense is bad?
Speaker 3: You can't turn the ball over?
Speaker 5: Uncle, Tell the people at home, how many turn over.
Speaker 3: With Joe Burrow had? Joe Burrow had three turnovers? But bunk,
Speaker 3: before you say that.
Speaker 2: How many did they lead? How many points did they
Speaker 2: lead to to the Steelers?
Speaker 3: Uh? Fourteen or twenty one or seventeen?
Speaker 5: How much?
Speaker 2: How many they got a scooping score and they got
Speaker 2: a field go right before the half? Right, that's ten points?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's ten. I can I say something real quick?
Speaker 1: Yes, for the chat, for better contact, let me get
Speaker 1: let me get energized real quick. You know, it's hard
Speaker 1: for me to defend my bangles. It's hard for me
Speaker 1: to defend my bangles. But for better contexts in those turnovers, now,
Speaker 1: one was a tip Cam Hayward tipped it, boom, pick
Speaker 1: scoop and score boom running with the ball.
Speaker 3: TJ.
Speaker 1: Watt, great play. And I think it was a high smith.
Speaker 1: Is a high smith that beat Orlando Brown off the edge?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Came right all they was high.
Speaker 2: It might have been the other guy, the other guy,
Speaker 2: I think it was like it might have been. It
Speaker 2: might have been fifty one Wilson, he might have called
Speaker 2: the sac and scoop.
Speaker 3: Hey, all right, scooping score.
Speaker 1: Listen, but one in that scenario, Orlando Brown, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure what the Bengals are doing. There's no reason why
Speaker 1: Leo Brown should be on the field if he can't walk.
Speaker 1: If he can't if you can't walk, that means you can't.
Speaker 3: Play left tackle. There's no reason to be on the field.
Speaker 1: But if you are on the on the field, then
Speaker 1: that's the onus is on the offensive line or the
Speaker 1: goddamn offensive coordinator.
Speaker 3: Hell, let's slide protection that way because he's not fully healthy.
Speaker 5: Obviously they can't. We saw you gonna find a protection
Speaker 5: away from TJ.
Speaker 3: Watt.
Speaker 1: Listen, mean, got no choice. We gotta leave mems over there.
Speaker 1: We gotta leave men by itself one on one, Yes.
Speaker 5: TJ, TJ? Why about to break the NFL records?
Speaker 3: Thomas Gates, I know what you mean, but you got
Speaker 3: to because look what happened.
Speaker 1: Look what happened that cost us, that cost Yes, if
Speaker 1: he's heard, goddamn flyer protection to the left, put the
Speaker 1: runner back up there, and goddamn chip got put the
Speaker 1: tight end over there, and Chip you got to do
Speaker 1: something to help him.
Speaker 3: If you have a play out there that is heard offensively,
Speaker 3: that was a true score.
Speaker 1: But your guy has got to take care of the football.
Speaker 5: Ho yoe.
Speaker 2: You know if your defense, if your defense you have
Speaker 2: one to get two or three worst defensive football, you
Speaker 2: can't turn it over.
Speaker 1: Right, You're right, there's nothing listen, there's there's nothing gonna
Speaker 1: say about that. But it is it blindside though, that
Speaker 1: that is his blindside. He has no idea that two
Speaker 1: seconds after the snap that somebody's barreling down and knocking
Speaker 1: the ball out his hands. Again, you got listened. I'm
Speaker 1: not making no excuses. You got to have two hands
Speaker 1: on the ball.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you do that.
Speaker 2: Hello, So I can make that case for Daniel Jones,
Speaker 2: all them sacks that ain't on Daniel Jones, all those turnovers,
Speaker 2: every quarterback that turned the ball over, because what they're
Speaker 2: doing is that you're making excuses for joy b because
Speaker 2: he had three hunder yard passing three touchdowns.
Speaker 1: WHOA, I was just giving you better context on how
Speaker 1: the fumbles happen.
Speaker 5: So who cares? Did he have the ball in his hand?
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, So all those fumbles and interceptions, that what
Speaker 2: you call him. We see we saw Patrick Mahomes two
Speaker 2: years ago. How many karms that he has? Seven interceptions
Speaker 2: and like three or four pick sixes that went through
Speaker 2: the receiver's hands. Yeah, when you funnel the ball and
Speaker 2: your defense is bad. All I know is this, Patrick
Speaker 2: Mahomes got to the Super Bowl with the second with
Speaker 2: the second or third worst defense in the NFL.
Speaker 3: That is the bargains because what has happened.
Speaker 2: Is that we've allowed Joe Burrow, and he's a really
Speaker 2: good he's a great quarterback, but we've allowed that one
Speaker 2: year run to tain us because we feel he can
Speaker 2: do no wrong because every year he's ranked above Lamar.
Speaker 2: Lamar is more accomplished than Joe Burrow. We rank him
Speaker 2: ahead of Josh Allen. He throws a beautiful ball, he
Speaker 2: puts up big numbers, But at what point in time
Speaker 2: do we hold him accountable like we have all the
Speaker 2: other great quarterbacks that haven't fulfilled the promise of what
Speaker 2: we expected them to be because we make excuse me,
Speaker 2: we like, well his blind side.
Speaker 1: Look at mahomes offensive line. If Mahold's offensive line any
Speaker 1: worth to Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: At him to title him two tackles bad tackles bad.
Speaker 3: One team got eleven to one, no disrespect.
Speaker 2: Yeah and so, And that's the thing when you just look,
Speaker 2: if you OJO, if you just looked at the stats,
Speaker 2: you're like, this man threw for three h nine and
Speaker 2: three touchdowns, but he had a he had a scooping
Speaker 2: score that the ball was in his hand that gave
Speaker 2: him that gave him seven points, and then he had
Speaker 2: another former that gave him ten points. So now if
Speaker 2: I take those ten points off the board, how many
Speaker 2: points did they? They scored forty four. If I take
Speaker 2: those teens, Cincinnati scored thirty eight. They win the game
Speaker 2: thirty eight thirty four.
Speaker 3: A uh, yeah, you're right, You're right.
Speaker 1: Listen, listen, I'm already hurting right now as it is.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't need you to continue to to
Speaker 1: pour salt my wounds. I know, I know because I'll
Speaker 1: be talking about it, jumping on my soapbox all season long.
Speaker 1: And I've been continued to let down. I've been continued
Speaker 1: let down or get.
Speaker 3: Your ass off out. Huh, get your ass off that box.
Speaker 3: I'm off of it right now.
Speaker 1: I'm off of it because you know, you know, the
Speaker 1: higher you up, you are to eat you easy.
Speaker 5: To target you to hit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's what.
Speaker 2: When sniper's shooting at what are they try to do? See,
Speaker 2: when snipers are shooting, they at a higher elevation. But
Speaker 2: when you show your head, that's where they could put
Speaker 2: that thing on you. Yeah, you better get load to
Speaker 2: the ground, get off the box. Say hey, god, hey man,
Speaker 2: I thought my bingals gonna be better this year. It's
Speaker 2: over for y'all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought I thought it was gonna be better.
Speaker 1: I thought, matter of fact, and listen, I would listening
Speaker 1: to the Joe. Joe said we could win seven of
Speaker 1: the last nine. There's a possibility. So when he said
Speaker 1: that in front of them, I was hype.
Speaker 3: I was hype.
Speaker 1: I I've been talking. I've been talking cash you know what.
Speaker 1: I've been making bets with Ryan Clark. I can't even
Speaker 1: eat McDonald's till January. Now, yes, yeah, but you know
Speaker 1: what list and you can't say till January?
Speaker 3: Why because we lost? Uh you you're lost like five
Speaker 3: in a row. Yeah, you lose.
Speaker 1: Hey, So you said I can't foot ball because my
Speaker 1: thin ball dope? Nope, Ocho, even you o Jo, you
Speaker 1: playing the game? I said, Oh, Joe, how y'all gonna
Speaker 1: go out on a run. When your defense is historically bad.
Speaker 2: Your quarterback literally has to play a perfect game every
Speaker 2: time one turnover, because first of all, your defense is
Speaker 2: not really gonna be able to stop anybody.
Speaker 1: Now you turn the ball over, you give them, and.
Speaker 2: If you give them points on your possession. Oh don't cry, No, no,
Speaker 2: no cry, Oh no, don't cry.
Speaker 1: You ain't cry yet, Chad, don't let it fool you.
Speaker 5: You should be crying.
Speaker 3: Sorry, we gonna we're gonna, we're gonna be alright. No,
Speaker 3: y'all ain't We're gonna be all.
Speaker 5: Right next year, y'all are gonna be all right this year?
Speaker 1: He fad.
Speaker 2: You know, got the people, you have, people in sistance
Speaker 2: that in believe in you, man o Joe saying we're
Speaker 2: gonna be all right. Not everybody, not everybody ain't doing
Speaker 2: nothing but eating chilling hot dogs. Stand up, set up
Speaker 2: in your chair, come costing you blurry you blurr. Don't
Speaker 2: now no you get you brak your hands back into focus.
Speaker 2: Y'all got hold your crime. Bingo bingo, what's y'all? Bingo nation?
Speaker 2: Bingle country? What y'all are here?
Speaker 4: Here?
Speaker 3: There you go we'll be back. We'll we'll be back
Speaker 3: next year.
Speaker 2: That's what Custar said when they send his ass out there.
Speaker 2: He said, I'll be back. And they ain't seen it
Speaker 2: there here with up a little big horning, they ain't
Speaker 2: seen his ass. Sense that was an ateen seventy five
Speaker 2: seventy eight. What was that when the little when the
Speaker 2: sending bull get old customs. We're gonna think that was
Speaker 2: somewhere between seventy five and seventy eight.
Speaker 3: We'll be back next year. I don't care. I don't
Speaker 3: care what nobody saying that. That's okay. We we had
Speaker 3: a bad season, and sometimes people have bad sceness.
Speaker 1: Sometimes people have some of the greatest players on offense,
Speaker 1: you know, and and.
Speaker 3: Sometimes things don't go the way you wanted to go.
Speaker 5: Sometime we fitted, we didn't come in for that. We
Speaker 5: could old.
Speaker 3: Look, I'm trying to I'm trying to laugh and keep
Speaker 3: from crying.
Speaker 1: Let's change the topic, man, shoot man, we ain't fit
Speaker 1: changed no topic now is what we do.
Speaker 2: We don't dunk, no chat. Do y'all expect not cap
Speaker 2: the duck a topic? Do y'all expect um to move
Speaker 2: on so quickly?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Less we gotta address it. Your defense is historically bad.
Speaker 2: They've been bad.
Speaker 1: But if you go back and look at it, the
Speaker 1: Bengals had Kansas City dead the right.
Speaker 2: What happened? Strip sacked Scoop and score right touchdown? They
Speaker 2: had the Ravens again dead the right at home? What happened? O,
Speaker 2: Joe Joey b Pick, Marlon Humphrey.
Speaker 1: Yeah, at some point in time, even your great numbers
Speaker 1: can be overshadowed if you are the one that puts.
Speaker 2: The ball in harm's way. Yeah, he's done it. We've
Speaker 2: seen it. But nobody. Everybody just wants to look at
Speaker 2: the stats. Oh, he played great. What about those three
Speaker 2: turnovers that gave the other team the football or gave
Speaker 2: the other team points? Do we not count that? We
Speaker 2: counted for everybody else. We rip quarterbacks that turn the
Speaker 2: ball over.
Speaker 5: At the end of the day.
Speaker 2: Is his responsibility to take care of the football.
Speaker 3: So as great a player as he is, So basically,
Speaker 3: all this.
Speaker 1: Is saying to me is is Joe Burrow is going
Speaker 1: to basically have to do he has to put on
Speaker 1: the superman cake because our defense is playing so bad, Right,
Speaker 1: he has to do it. Shaldon is doing if Josh
Speaker 1: Allen could do it, and he can overcome himself and
Speaker 1: not make the mistakes he made in the past and
Speaker 1: has his team playing the way he has him playing.
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow has to do the same thing, and he
Speaker 1: has to do with a much better supporting cast offensively.
Speaker 5: Yeah, hold on.
Speaker 3: It sounds it sounds easy, but it's not easy to do.
Speaker 3: Josh Allen makes it look easy, but it's not easy
Speaker 3: to do. But I understand ho where you're coming from.
Speaker 2: I remember when Peyton Manning had those bad defenses in Indy,
Speaker 2: Oh my.
Speaker 1: Goodness, and even and even he was putting up those numbers. Oh,
Speaker 1: hey man, he can't get done in the big game.
Speaker 1: Hey Manny, y'all, y'all, y'ada, even though his defense was
Speaker 1: historically bad, y'all didn't make the excuses for Peyton that
Speaker 1: you make for Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2: And I just need to know why. Yeah, I got time.
Speaker 2: I took now to day with you. I got time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know you got time. I took him out
Speaker 3: to day too. I took it that good.
Speaker 2: I need to tell I need you to tell me
Speaker 2: why Why is Joe Burrow getting a pass we never
Speaker 2: gave I didn't.
Speaker 3: Give him a pass. I say, I said it didn't
Speaker 3: play well. I said it in play well.
Speaker 1: Now, when you said about the three turn on, I
Speaker 1: just wanted to add a little context on the turnover,
Speaker 1: just say they weren't all his fault. But on the
Speaker 1: stash sheet, guess who Guess whose name is by them turnovers?
Speaker 5: Joe? Yeah, win is the strip?
Speaker 3: Hold on?
Speaker 2: When have we not given a script sack to the
Speaker 2: quarterback because the ball's in his hand?
Speaker 3: You and hear what I just said. I just said,
Speaker 3: when we look at the stash sheet, who are the
Speaker 3: turnovers on? Whose name is there? The quarterback?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I know, I'm just saying.
Speaker 1: I'm just I was just trying to give a little
Speaker 1: context on what happened or whatnot.
Speaker 3: But he didn't play. He didn't play as well as
Speaker 3: he needs to play.
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow needs to understand, and I'm sure he understands,
Speaker 1: and they would have this conversation with his head coach,
Speaker 1: with his officer coordinated, and with his quarterback coach. You
Speaker 1: have to protect the ball. You have to in order
Speaker 1: for us to even have a chance to win going
Speaker 1: on from this season and later on in the future,
Speaker 1: you have to be the best at protecting the ball
Speaker 1: and not turning it over. Because if our defense.
Speaker 3: Is not playing as well or playing the way they
Speaker 3: played this year at any point, there is no way
Speaker 3: for us to overcome.
Speaker 2: Those zero, no way for us all up those mistakes,
Speaker 2: and we're not finna move on because I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: let you do this to Russ and Russ. You trust,
Speaker 2: you say you love Russ. I do, well, let's give
Speaker 2: Russ some flowers.
Speaker 3: I was the only one standing on the soapbox with
Speaker 3: Rush too.
Speaker 5: Now, don't do that, you work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Russ twenty nine to thirty eight, four fourteen, which
Speaker 2: is a career high, three touchdowns, one pick. He was
Speaker 2: said sation no today, Yes, it was his career high.
Speaker 2: He knew, like, look, as good as our defense is,
Speaker 2: our their offense is going to score. It is incumbered
Speaker 2: upon me as the quarterback and one of the leaders
Speaker 2: of this where he is the de facto leader on offense.
Speaker 5: Right, Oh, we can have our way with these guys.
Speaker 3: Boys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and think about it. Oh, Joe, you did get
Speaker 1: seven from Britain. The guys that picked today. That thing,
Speaker 1: that thing was nice, That thing were nice.
Speaker 3: That was good. Listen, Boom pointed attack nice little jam boom.
Speaker 1: Eyes on, eyes on the ball. Oh we're going another way, Oski, Oski,
Speaker 1: let's go. Yeah, thats right. I thought after that play,
Speaker 1: I thought we was going to run away with the game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was man.
Speaker 2: I remember, do y'all remember when Peyton Manning was losing
Speaker 2: to Tom Brady. Oh, he'll never beat Tom, and Peyton
Speaker 2: was winning MVP, but Tom was winning Super Bowl.
Speaker 5: He wasn't putting nothing numbers like Peyton, but he was winning.
Speaker 3: Oh. Tom.
Speaker 2: Peyton never went I remember he got beat forty one
Speaker 2: nothing by Chad Pennington.
Speaker 5: He got beat by Billy Bowleck.
Speaker 2: Oh, they were just ripping Pate, Yeah, ripping him. His
Speaker 2: defense weren't very good. He's putting up even his owner.
Speaker 2: When Peyton talk about I don't I won't, I don't
Speaker 2: want I wont championships, I don't want no star wards
Speaker 2: numbers because he feels that Peyton underperformed, right and now
Speaker 2: and Peyton. Go back and look at peyton numbers. That
Speaker 2: man won four in and all of them wasn't in
Speaker 2: no Super Bowl seasons.
Speaker 1: Fans media like killed him. Me too, I was one
Speaker 1: of them, Yeah, me too, yep, go back and look
Speaker 1: at what I was on CBS beat him up.
Speaker 2: Everybody did. But now, well, Shannon his defense, y'all didn't
Speaker 2: say that. When Peyton had a bad defense, y'all just
Speaker 2: said he couldn't stand up to Tom Brady. He lost
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. Go look at peyton numbers in the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. But he had that one pig six Tracy
Speaker 2: Porter read it right. They came with a zero blitz,
Speaker 2: he undercut the under route, and he eased them out.
Speaker 2: Y'all gotta stop this, y'all. Y'all got very very short memories.
Speaker 2: But what I'm seeing over yo, what I'm seeing. If
Speaker 2: we like somebody, we'll make every excuse in the world
Speaker 2: for I don't give a damn what he does or
Speaker 2: what he or she done if we like you. But
Speaker 2: I'm gonna call it straight down the middle, y'all know
Speaker 2: how I am. Now, y'all get on me and say, Shaddon, Yes,
Speaker 2: I do, y'all know I do. Go back and check
Speaker 2: my track record to see Benz. If y'all don't think
Speaker 2: I call it down in the middle, me too, me too.
Speaker 1: I call it down in the middle too, me too,
Speaker 1: me too, Yeah, check my track record.
Speaker 2: Russ put fo them, I say, hey, keep But here's
Speaker 2: the thing, Hey, guys with people, y'all keep saying, get
Speaker 2: that man, it's flowers. Don't give me my flowers. I'll
Speaker 2: plant my own damn garden. I broke my own damn flowers,
Speaker 2: and I pick on. I'm tired of y'all. Y'all don't
Speaker 2: want to get people.
Speaker 5: Russ.
Speaker 3: Hold on your own damn flowers.
Speaker 5: Throw your own garden.
Speaker 2: Hold on, put your own flowers and put them on displate.
Speaker 5: I don't even nobody. Don't give me no more flowers.
Speaker 3: I don't want them.
Speaker 5: Hey, I got my own garden growing.
Speaker 3: I'm on the road.
Speaker 1: I'm on the road, but they got no paday.
Speaker 3: I don't need y'all to give my flowers because I'm
Speaker 3: what you say, plant plant my own. I'm a plant
Speaker 3: grow my own damn flowers. No my own garden. He said, Mom, whatever, whatever,
Speaker 3: whatever you want.
Speaker 5: What you want.
Speaker 2: You want roses, you want daisies, you want lili, you wantunias.
Speaker 1: You know what I want tulips.
Speaker 3: I saw the movie Stormy Weather and Lena Horne. She
Speaker 3: liked tulips, So I'm gonna give me some.
Speaker 5: Russ.
Speaker 3: Listen.
Speaker 2: Russ is in the ideal situation He's with a coach
Speaker 2: that understands quarterbacks. Not that he can coach him, but
Speaker 2: he understands the psyche of a quarterback. And the one
Speaker 2: thing you can't do with a quarterback is beat him
Speaker 2: up mentally. And I think Sean Payton beat him up mentally.
Speaker 2: For whatever reason, Sean never embraced Russ. He never gave it,
Speaker 2: he never gave he tolerated it. He's like, I got
Speaker 2: a year with him, and I'm not so sure that
Speaker 2: Russ could have done anything other than going to the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl that would have ingratiated himself with Sean Payton.
Speaker 2: Sean Payton has a guy now, and he you know, hey,
Speaker 2: he has a young guy and young guy for the
Speaker 2: most part, Oh show, they're happy to be there even
Speaker 2: though their first round pick, and they can stomach a
Speaker 2: little more Russell. Of that, Russell has been the Super bowls.
Speaker 2: Russe is a multiple time Pro Bowl player. He's like,
Speaker 2: why are you talking to me like that?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: What hey, He's.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I was finna safe for those
Speaker 1: that have been watching obviously, you know, because you got
Speaker 1: on me about it is I've been giving Russ's flowers
Speaker 1: for a very long time. Even when he was in Denver,
Speaker 1: you know, you was down to him because things on
Speaker 1: the way they should be going. I've always stood on
Speaker 1: that soul box for Russell Wilson because I understood there's
Speaker 1: no way, there's no way that a player like Russ
Speaker 1: that was with the Seattle Seahawks, that has played well
Speaker 1: at a high level for so many years, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden you go to Denver and things just
Speaker 1: weren't right. I think the situation and the scenario that
Speaker 1: he was in, in the pressure that Sean Payton, who
Speaker 1: kept challenging him, yes, but rating him as a head coach,
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 3: I just knew that wasn't the right fit. And I
Speaker 3: understood once he got over there with the Steelers. I
Speaker 3: said it. As soon as he got there, I say, man,
Speaker 3: this is perfect. He's going with the.
Speaker 1: Right coach, the right type of coach, Yes, winning coach
Speaker 1: with the right mentality that knows how to deal with him.
Speaker 1: And Arthur Smith has put Russell Wilson in some great
Speaker 1: positions and understanding his strengths is his strengths and his weaknesses,
Speaker 1: knowing what he can do and what he can't do
Speaker 1: anymore that they used to do in Seattle, and it
Speaker 1: has been paying dividends off of him, man, and it's
Speaker 1: been perfect.
Speaker 3: It's been perfect.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's been he Look he's been, he's been good.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he would have ever been what
Speaker 2: he is right now in Denver with Sean Payton. Look
Speaker 2: that first year, we got to talk that up because
Speaker 2: ain't nobody been good on the Nathaniel Hackett.
Speaker 5: Ain't nobody. He got fired in Denver.
Speaker 2: And he lost his play calling duty in Green Bay
Speaker 2: excuse me and the Jets so nobody, so we can
Speaker 2: we can't say say, you know what, Russ, we're gonna
Speaker 2: just that first year. Now, whatever happened with you? Like
Speaker 2: I said, I don't know, but it just seems like
Speaker 2: he was never ingratiated. Sean didn't put his arms around him.
Speaker 2: It's like, I'm happy to have you as my quarterback
Speaker 2: for whatever reasons. And it was best that they go
Speaker 2: accept you know, you go your way, I go mine,
Speaker 2: and we're both better for it. The Broncos are doing
Speaker 2: quite well. The Pittsburgh Steelers are leading their division. They're
Speaker 2: doing it extremely well. And I'm happy for both because
Speaker 2: this this match wasn't gonna work in Denver, Not not
Speaker 2: Russ and Sean Payton. Maybe it's with somebody else, but
Speaker 2: not that. But Russ needed to go and get built
Speaker 2: back up again. And he had to start. He had
Speaker 2: to start. He had to start from scratch. He had
Speaker 2: to start from scratch. And and and what better place
Speaker 2: to go than with Mike Tomlin. Who's on, who's on? Firm, soil, firm,
Speaker 2: footy firm foundations ain't going.
Speaker 5: Nowhere, He ain't going nowhere. And so.
Speaker 3: The Bengals allowed five hundred to twenty yards the season. Okay,
Speaker 3: they surrendered forty four points.
Speaker 5: Oven came on the strip sack that was turned for
Speaker 5: a touchdown. Oh Joe, check this out.
Speaker 2: The Bengals are the first team in NFL history to
Speaker 2: lose four games or more when scored at least thirty
Speaker 2: three points in a game.
Speaker 3: You're just gonna you gonna pour it on all night.
Speaker 3: Huh No, not just saying.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying that you're gonna put on.
Speaker 1: We lost the game, now, Okay, I didn't share tears
Speaker 1: and all about my team losing. Okay, I've been vulnerable.
Speaker 1: I'm letting the world show that I'm vulnerable. And how
Speaker 1: much this ship means to me. And you're just gonna
Speaker 1: continue to pull on and just take the gasoline, right,
Speaker 1: you're gonna take the gas skin and pour it on
Speaker 1: the fire. Anyway, We're done with it then, okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna move on to the Texas and the jag.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead and finish, go ahead
Speaker 3: and finish.
Speaker 5: Just no, we're done with that.
Speaker 3: Just give it to me.
Speaker 2: We could at that horse, look it now, of across
Speaker 2: go ahead? No, no, no, what we didn't look Okay,
Speaker 2: we had a horse. He was a racehorse. We want
Speaker 2: as many races as we could. And then we turned
Speaker 2: him into a fly horse. We put him in the fields.
Speaker 2: So okay, now he can't fly anymore. Now, ain't nothing
Speaker 2: nothing to do. We either eat it or we turned
Speaker 2: him into glube. But we've got all we can out
Speaker 2: of this. We got all we could out of this horse. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so now we got to go someplace now, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: The volume