1 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: It's time for the b a q A b A 2 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: keep a okay, the b a q A Okay, the 3 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: b a q A. You have qa's, LOI you have q's, 4 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 1: we have a's. Ish like, we're not your cousin, we're 5 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 1: not your therapist, we're not your financial advison, your attorney. 6 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: Otherwise, but we're smarter than our cousin probably, Yes, yeah, 7 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: that was a better option than their cousins. Yeah, keep 8 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: it going. 9 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: But we are just two brown girls who have experienced 10 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: a lot in career, business, personal finance, and we're gonna 11 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: do our best to answer your questions, but take it 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: with a grain of salt and certainly lean into the 13 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: professionals around you for the final say, as well as 14 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: what you think is best. With that, we actually have 15 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: an update, don't we, manager. 16 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, like a little part two of our discussion around 17 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: pyramid schemes slash multi level marketing companies. So we had 18 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: a question on a recent B a Q and A 19 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: where a woman was approached in a retail start was 20 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: her and her boyfriend, I believe, and they were invited 21 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: to join what sounded to be like a pyramid scheme, 22 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: but they weren't really sure what it was, and we 23 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 2: talked about it, and after describing her that listener's question 24 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 2: on the last episode of BAQ and A, we got 25 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 2: a note from Danielle who says I was listening to 26 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: the latest b a Q and A and wanted to 27 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 2: share that I was also approached in the same manner 28 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 2: as the guest who talked about pyramid schemes. The person 29 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: who approached me was on a college campus and used 30 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 2: the same language. It was an opportunity to get mentored 31 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 2: by wealthy people, and that couple turned out to be 32 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 2: a successful duo at the top of Amway track. I 33 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 2: was already too familiar with Amway's reputation and declined to 34 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: sign up. This was a year ago, but the letter 35 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,559 Speaker 2: you've read was to the t my exact experience. Thanks 36 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: Danielle for sharing that. Damn okay, So that puts a 37 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 2: name to a potentially could have been See. Now here's 38 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 2: the part where we say we're not trying to like, 39 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to say if that's a pyramid scheme 40 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: or not, but it is definitely like an MLM type structure. Yes, 41 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: where what is mwaisoluct helping me? And what she said 42 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: with they was really like critical in this part. She 43 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 2: was like, so because I'd never heard of this before. 44 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: She said, they're starting to increase recruitment by selling it 45 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 2: as a mentorship as well, which is really clever because 46 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 2: you know, I think people are used to the rigorar 47 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 2: language like would you like to make some extra money? 48 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:30,839 Speaker 2: I was like, here we go, but you know, now 49 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: to say, you know, we're really trying to help a 50 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 2: mentor folks, it's like, oh, that sounds legitimate. Remember I 51 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 2: said before that, I'm like, I'm not sure if it's 52 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: MLM or not, because certainly I have been a part 53 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 2: of mentorship circles and it's been legitimate and they're not 54 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 2: upselling me anything. But wow, y'all are some slicky, slicksters MLMs. 55 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 2: So be careful out there in the MLM streets, y'all. 56 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 2: As ever, all right, let's move on to our first 57 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 2: question of the week. This comes from listener Kimberly, who 58 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 2: dropped us a note on IG and is having an 59 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 2: existential crisis. Okay, Kimberly, we are here to help. Hello, Amandra. 60 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 2: She says, I've been loving all of your guests on 61 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 2: the podcast. I know it was hard without Tiffany while 62 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: she was healing and giving Tiffany lots and lots of love. 63 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: My question is a bit existential. I think. I know 64 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: everyone talks about getting side hustles and passive income streams. 65 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: While I appreciate that, I wonder if we should think 66 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 2: about how we get to a position that pays enough 67 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 2: to not need side hustles. My thirties were spent getting 68 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: my MAA and PhD and having to write on my weekends. 69 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: So now that time is super precious, why aren't we 70 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: thinking that way if we have the ability to get 71 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: onto something absolutely, I mean, like the whole side hustle 72 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: culture sometimes I think can be damaging. And I even 73 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 2: have like a session in my group coaching program where 74 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 2: I talk about being an entrepreneur and also being entrepreneurial, 75 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 2: like coming up with ideas and projects at your like 76 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: in your date in your nine to five job, and 77 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,839 Speaker 2: how wonderful that can be for putting you in line 78 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: for promotions and raises and other opportunities and things like that. 79 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 2: But I probably spend like five to ten minutes at 80 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: the top of that. They probably think I'm crazy, but 81 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 2: I'm just like you guys, We're going to talk about entrepreneurship. 82 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 2: We're going to talk about businesses and stuff, but you know, 83 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: you do not necessarily have to go out and have 84 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: a fricking vending machine, an ATM machine, a trucking business, 85 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 2: you know, a digital service on the side and ride 86 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 2: uber and do instant cart just because you can, like 87 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 2: you don't. Sometimes social media, especially will have you feeling 88 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 2: like you're missing out on all these opportunities to bring 89 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 2: an extra income. But, like Tiffany has said, at what cost? 90 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 2: And what I love about your question, Kimberly is you 91 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 2: bring it up like your time is precious, So how 92 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 2: do we work smarter not harder? In some ways? And 93 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: if you're working at a job where you need several 94 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 2: other sources of income to make ends meet, then maybe 95 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 2: that's not the best baseline foundation job for you to have. 96 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 2: And yeah, hell yeah, every damn helping people try to 97 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 2: find a job that will pay them enough so that 98 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: they can rest when they're not working, you know, so 99 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 2: that you can take a step back and only do 100 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 2: the side hustles if you want to, but only if 101 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 2: you want to, not because for the sake of it 102 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 2: or because it seems like everyone else is doing it. 103 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 2: Because it can just become like a grind and then 104 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 2: you get to burn out and you're not really enjoying 105 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 2: anything that you're creating. 106 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: So you know our friend Sandy and like literally her 107 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: nickname is side hustles with Sandy. And you know what 108 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: I love, yes most when I interviewed her, like from 109 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: my book, is that she was like, first, her first 110 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: lot of defense to making more money was not actually 111 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: side hustles, It was getting more money out of your 112 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: current job. She was like some people, she said, so 113 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: many people out there, they don't actually need a side hustle. 114 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: They either need to raise or a new job. So 115 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: I love that you brought this up because it's just like, 116 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: you know, are there ways that you can increase your 117 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: value or illustrator open more? Obviously at that job, I 118 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: mean obviously with your m A and PhD sis you 119 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: out here joining it already, but like you know, is 120 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: there an additional education you could ask them? Is there? 121 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: Like if I'm thinking about the people that you know 122 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: I've hired or kept on, there are folks on the team, like, 123 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: for example, Logan on my team. When Logan first started, 124 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: she was an admin for like a very famous how 125 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: do I say government agency that we all know very covert. 126 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: So she was super skilled in like that. But then 127 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 1: Logan worked in customer support for us, and then she 128 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: got additional she took like additional classes and certifications and things, 129 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: and then she became like our lead customer support and 130 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: then she did such an amazing job. I said, well, 131 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:48,679 Speaker 1: what do you really like to do? She said, research, 132 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: and then she learned how to do that, and then 133 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: she started to write copy for us. And now Logan 134 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: she took copywriting courses. She's one of our She's an 135 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 1: amazing copywriter where people like vie to get Logan to 136 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: write stuff for them. And just the other day, Logan 137 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: was like, I'm taking an Instagram class because she does 138 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: all my content now. And she's like, I'm taking a 139 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: class on like she does all of our emails on 140 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: like how best to use your email system. We just 141 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: took on a new text message system and Logan is 142 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: getting certified in that. So as a result, you know, 143 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: she's making herself more and more valuable. And so you know, 144 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: even despite me having to let folks go, and even 145 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: though I had to decideed, Logan's going to stay on 146 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: the literature academy that makes more than the actual Budgetista makes. 147 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: I brought her over to Budgetista, but she didn't lower 148 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: her salary, even though technically for the Budgetesa side, for 149 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: what we can afford, it should be lower. But she's 150 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: so valuable that I was like, we will find the funds. 151 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,679 Speaker 1: Even if it means less for me. That's fine because 152 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: in the long run it makes more sense. So I 153 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: just say all that to say, which is like, yes, 154 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: if you are currently working somewhere, are you bringing and 155 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: illustrating so not just secretly corro covertly doing a good job. 156 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: Are you showcasing the fact of all the value you 157 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: bring to the table. And if you're still not being paid, 158 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: what's you know, what you feel is equitable and fair? 159 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: And sometimes it is equitable bull and fair and the 160 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: company just can't afford more if they're smaller, you know, 161 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: are you taking your skills elsewhere where they do have 162 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: the money in order to pay you. Because you're right, 163 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: everything costs, especially money. Everything costs especially money. So the 164 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: more that you work for that outside of your regular job, 165 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, some people enjoy that, which you 166 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: know that's obviously me and Mandy do that now, but 167 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: it's not easy. So you know, if you have a 168 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: job to enjoy, you know, find more money. 169 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 2: They are And obviously it's not to not to diminish 170 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 2: the power of having additional streams of income. But my 171 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 2: perspective on that is always it's smart. I think to 172 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 2: diversify the sources of your income. Even now as a 173 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: business owner, I have several different streams of income. And 174 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 2: I was very intentional about that, cause you know, you're 175 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 2: nine to five is a stream of income. But can 176 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 2: your side hustle one provide you a bit of financial security. 177 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 2: Like I was just talking to a coaching client earlier 178 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 2: who's thinking about starting a consulting sort of business on 179 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 2: the side, and I'm like, that's really brilliant, and I 180 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: encourage I encourage professionals if you can take what you're 181 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 2: doing day to day and leverage that into consulting on 182 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 2: the side, that gives you professional resiliency, so that if 183 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 2: your nine to five job, let's say you were laid 184 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 2: off or your you know, cut back or whatever, you 185 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 2: still have a source of income and you've kept your 186 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 2: network strong, like you're working with clients or getting testimonials 187 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 2: and all of that. I'm a big fan of that 188 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 2: because it adds, like I said, professional resiliency, not not 189 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 2: doing things just for the sake of having income. You know, 190 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 2: can you do things that have layers of benefit for 191 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 2: you financial gain, yes, But do they give you some 192 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 2: professional resiliency? Do they extend Do they expand your brand 193 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 2: professionally so that more people will think of you for 194 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 2: opportunities in the future. Do they do they put you 195 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 2: in potentially a position to get jobs you know, you 196 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 2: may find through your consulting work or through another you know, 197 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 2: quote unquote side hustle that you're doing opportunities that do 198 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 2: pay you more and then you can leave your job. 199 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 2: So I'm not against side hustles at all. I'm just 200 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 2: against the side hustle for the side hustle for the 201 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 2: sake of it, you know, because everyone feels like you've 202 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 2: got to be grinding all the time. It's like like 203 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 2: you said, when is it enough? And when can you 204 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 2: say it's enough for now? 205 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: You know, if you don't listen to any chapter this 206 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: is book that I'm reading now call why I just 207 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: finish it called Stillness is the Key by Ryan Holliday. 208 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: He's just like a really well known stoic, and I 209 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: chatted with you guys about that earlier that after Jerrell 210 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: passed away, I really started to like explore stoicism, which 211 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: is really just learning to lean into where you can 212 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: make a difference do that, and where you can't to 213 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: release it because you don't have control, you know, and 214 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: so stillness is the key. It's a really great book, 215 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: but if you don't listen to anything else in that book, 216 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: I prefer to do it via audible. There is a 217 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: chapter called Enough that is so powerful. I probably listened 218 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: to it ten times in a row. You know, each 219 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: chapter is maybe like eight or nine minutes long, but 220 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: it was just so powerful about the power of enough, Like. 221 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 2: When do you say that? 222 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: You know, like I'm not talking about if you're homeless 223 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: or you can't feed your kids, we get that, but 224 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 1: there is a moment for so many folks where there 225 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: actually is enough, or you actually are enough, and you 226 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: just zoom white past it. And when you do so, 227 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: you have now opened yourself up to never be satiated. 228 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: That you're like, you're like drowning in the in the 229 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: possibilities of more, and I just am like, I don't 230 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: want to do that anymore. And I just hope that 231 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: all of you listening know that you are enough and 232 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: you recognize when you have enough, so you don't have 233 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: to overwork yourself. 234 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 2: Aimen that what was it book called Ryan Holliday. 235 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: Ryan Holiday. It's called Stillness is the Key. He's got 236 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: like these three. It's the obstacle. The obstacle is the way, 237 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: Stillness is the key, and Ego is the enemy. So 238 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: I read The Obstacles the Way, which is really good. 239 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: It's like an introduction to stoicism. Stillness is the Keys excellent. 240 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: And then I'm actually that I just started yesterday. Ego 241 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: is the enemy, so I'll let you know how that is. 242 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: But those his books thus far, I have enjoyed them. 243 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: Obviously it's not for everybody, but I've really enjoyed them, 244 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 1: but especially that second book. 245 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 2: I'm a Leo, so Ego is my friend of me. 246 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 2: That's how I feel. I'm not mad at it. Okay, 247 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 2: let's take a quick break and we'll be right back 248 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 2: with another question from the ba q and A. All right, 249 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 2: we are back, and we've got a financial question. I 250 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 2: love this person gave themselves a code name, Yes, code 251 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 2: name Manifesting Wealth Babe, mwb Okay, roll my shoulders back. 252 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 2: I just started listening to your podcast and I love it. 253 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 2: I recently turned thirty five, and my goal for this 254 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 2: year is to become more financially stable and literate after 255 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 2: finally making decent wages hustle in my industry for over 256 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 2: a decade. I currently have no savings in about sixty 257 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 2: K in student loan debt, but I'd like to start 258 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 2: building wealth and buy a house within the next three years. 259 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 2: My plan is to pay off seventy five hundred dollars 260 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 2: of credit card debt and create a six month emergency 261 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: fund within the next one and a half years. I've 262 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 2: got good credits, I want to keep that high, and 263 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 2: eventually I like to get a home loan. I'm planning 264 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 2: on transferring that seventy five one hundred dollars of credit 265 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 2: card debt to a zero percent interest APR credit card 266 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 2: and very smart and paying six hundred dollars a month 267 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 2: on that, And then I want to open a high 268 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 2: savings account with another bank so I can put away 269 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 2: my emergency fund. Wow, she really has been listening to 270 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 2: Brown and Vessional. Then in the next one and a 271 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 2: half years, I like to start saving for a deposit 272 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 2: on a duplex so I can house hack and start 273 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 2: building wealth. Here's my question, Well, opening up accounts with 274 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 2: two new banks when I currently only use one negatively 275 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 2: affect my credit score? Is it unwise of me to 276 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 2: only be made making minimum payments on my student loans 277 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 2: and being more concerned about paying off credit card debt 278 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 2: and building wealth. I don't want to take on odd 279 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 2: jobs to pay off my debt and save up when 280 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 2: work life balance and self care is so important to 281 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 2: me at this point in my life. Please let me 282 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: know if you have any additional advice for reaching my 283 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 2: goals and if you think my plan is a wise 284 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 2: one manifesting wealth babe. 285 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: Big girl. Actually the first time was like, ooh, it's 286 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: a lot, but it's really smart. GC is really smart. 287 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: Like the only thing I would say is this so okay? 288 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: So the questions, no, bank accounts have nothing to do 289 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: with your credit score unless you overdraft and don't pay 290 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: them people back. So you can open up as many 291 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: bank accounts as you want. It's not going to negatively 292 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: or even positively affect your credit score, so you just 293 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: know that. And then the student loans, I'm assuming you 294 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: must still because Mandy did the moratorium students. Has that 295 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: lifted yet? Are people? Are the federal people still not 296 00:14:58,840 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: paying do you know? 297 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 2: Girl? You know they're too afraid of the midterm elections 298 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 2: coming up to stop that. Pretty sure they extended it 299 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 2: to October or at least through the summer. 300 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm assuming that you must have private loans 301 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: if you're still paying them, And I'm all for paying 302 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: the minimum to student loan debt because typically the interest 303 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: rate on a credit card debt is higher. So I 304 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: love the fact that you're going to be making that 305 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: balance transfer to fifty. It's like, you know, because your 306 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: credit score is good, so if you found a fifteen 307 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: month zero percent APR credit card, that's excellent, So you know, 308 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: continue to do that. The only thing that I will 309 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: say that might be helpful for you, MWB is looking 310 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: to this program called NAKA n ACA. Let me see 311 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: what does NACA start to stand for? You know, NACA. 312 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 2: I just looked it up the other day and I 313 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 2: have to google it every time. 314 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the Neighborhood Assistance Corporation of America, whatever that means. 315 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: But here's what's so great about NACA is that they 316 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: help first time home buyers, which would be you. And honestly, 317 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: anybody who has not had a new mortgage in four 318 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: years is considered a first time first time home buyer, 319 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: just so you know. So first time home buyers get homes. 320 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: And what's so great about NACA is that, now here's 321 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: the thing. I would start looking into NACA now because 322 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: it's a nonprofit organization. They tend to be slow, so 323 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: I actually would start the process now. But they're gonna 324 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: they're going to want to see your budget, they're gonna 325 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: want you to raise your credit score, which you've already done. 326 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: They're gonna want to see you consistently safe. So they're 327 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: gonna have all of these these these parameters in place. 328 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: But in exchange, NACA is going to get you an 329 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: incredible interest rate that you can't get anyplace else. During 330 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: the Great Pany, people were getting interest rates of like 331 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: one point five percent, which is basically like free money. 332 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: And even now, so my brother in law, I think 333 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: I mentioned then Drel and I had purchased like a 334 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: second home that we were renovating, which we finished and 335 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: we were gonna rent it out, and then it was 336 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: our attention to one day give it to Alyssa, you know, 337 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: like as her inheritance whatever. So obviously you know he 338 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: passed away. So as a result, it's like, what do 339 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: we do at the house? Alyssa and I had a 340 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: grown up conversation as much as you can with a 341 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: fifteen year old, and I told her, you know, I 342 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:15,959 Speaker 1: don't really want to be a landlord. That was your 343 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: daddy who wanted to do that, so but if you 344 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 1: really want me to hold the house for you, I will. 345 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: I'll just figure it out. And she was like, no, 346 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 1: that's okay, because she doesn't want to live there anyway. 347 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: So we decided that we agreed that we're going to 348 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: sell the house and then I'm going to put the 349 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: proceeds away for her for college and beyond. So thankfully, 350 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 1: his twin brother has actually been looking for a house 351 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: for the last two years, and actually, because his twin 352 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: brother is a master painter, painted the house for us 353 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: and he was the perfect person to purchase this home. 354 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: So I told him. His name is Terrell, which is funny, 355 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: Jarell and Terrell. So Terrell. My sister Carol's like, tell 356 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 1: Terrell to sign up for NAKA and he did, and 357 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: so in September, he has to show six months of 358 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: positive savings growth, and so I think it's September October 359 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: is when he'll be done. He feels that every other 360 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: paperwork they ask for everything but your blood type. But 361 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: in six months, so right now, I think interest rates 362 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: were around five or six percent, because we all know 363 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: interest rates have been up. But he was able to 364 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: lock in a three point five percent interest rate with NACA, 365 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: which is excellent. 366 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 2: And so that's what it in this early m hm. 367 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: They're like, you know, with your with your credit score, 368 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,479 Speaker 1: with you this, with your that we're able to do 369 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: this for you. And so NAKA gives like a really 370 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: great So it's it's a lot of I would like 371 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: put an air quotes headache because certainly it's a slow process, 372 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: and if it's in a very competitive market, sometimes it's 373 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: going to be hard for maybe like a homeowner to 374 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: wait for you to get your paperwork together. Thankfully, you know, 375 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: I'm not selling the house to anybody but him, So 376 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:48,719 Speaker 1: I told them, you know, we'll wait for as long 377 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 1: as it takes for you to get ready, but to 378 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: be able to save, like you know, he's going to 379 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: save tens of thousands of dollars if he stays there 380 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: for the next whatever thirty years, you know, because of 381 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: his interest rate being so low. Well, that's what I 382 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: would share with you that, like your plans sound amazing, 383 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: I would just look into NAKA NACA. Yeah, what do 384 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 1: you think, Mandra. 385 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 2: Or just like Google first time home buyer in your state, 386 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 2: you may find programs too. Yeah. I mean, as far 387 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 2: as her question and her concern around the bank account saying, 388 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 2: going back and reading, I think what she's maybe asking 389 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 2: is because her plan is to apply for a mortgage 390 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 2: in a year and a half and for that and 391 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 2: I and having a little bit of credit card debt 392 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 2: and having your student loans. But if you stick to 393 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 2: your plan, you're opening up your credit card now, which 394 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 2: is at least a year and a half from when 395 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 2: you plan to have your mortgage. That's fine. I mean, 396 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 2: I think when it comes to the whole underwriting process 397 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 2: for mortgages, when they actually look at your finances and 398 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 2: decide if you're trustworthy and if they want to loan 399 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 2: lend to you, they'll look at least like six months 400 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 2: in the past, so they say like no new credit behavior, 401 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 2: don't don't go take out a new credit card, don't 402 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, get a new car or 403 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 2: something like that, take on more debt in that six 404 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 2: month period before you apply for a mortgage. And if 405 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 2: you're a W two worker, as long as you're clean 406 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 2: for six months before you apply for that mortgage, you 407 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 2: should be fine. And by clean, I just mean like 408 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 2: no new credit, no new debt. And if you if 409 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 2: you follow your plan, you should be in a really 410 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 2: exceptional position when it comes time to be shopping for 411 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 2: a mortgage and shopping for your home. So I commend you. Yeah, 412 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 2: and can you write a testimonial for brand ambition since 413 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 2: you're a new listener and look how far you've come. 414 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: And I will say if you can add ten more 415 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: points than that credits courses because seven seventy though, but 416 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 1: seven forty is the beginning of perfect credit. Not to 417 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: say she won't get like excellent, okay, you know, but 418 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: you know by seven forty is like that's when you 419 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: just sew it all up, you know what I mean? 420 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 2: Like, no, she's gonna as soon as she pays off 421 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 2: that you write seventy five hundred dollars of debt, that 422 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 2: credit card debt. Hell yeah, I mean your student loan's 423 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 2: probably not that big of a deal. Lenders will consider 424 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 2: it when they do your like debt to income ratio. 425 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 2: They'll look at your monthly payment and all of that. 426 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 2: But yeah, when you pay off that credit card debt 427 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 2: and you keep your credit card debt low, you should 428 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 2: be golden, probably walking there with a high seven hundred's, 429 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 2: you know, eight hundred score. I love to see you 430 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 2: win manifesting wealth. Baby, you are a manifest Thank you 431 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 2: so much for that, Thanks for listening, and thank you 432 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 2: so much for the question. That was a fun one. 433 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: Well that was an excellent baqa. 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