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Speaker 1: This is straight fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up?

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Speaker 2: Straight fire, fam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight fire for Monday,

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Speaker 2: September twenty third. Ah. Yes, a glorious Monday. I didn't

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Speaker 2: have to sweat the Jets on a Sunday, which is great.

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Speaker 2: Rob g is so fired up about his Raiders. Oh

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Speaker 2: my gosh, losing to the freaking Panthers. Holy caw. We'll

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Speaker 2: get to the Raiders obviously, and the Red Rifle Andy Dalton.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there is so much wackiness that happened on

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Speaker 2: I guess I could start with going five to zero

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Speaker 2: in the contest. Just a magical Sunday for me. It

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Speaker 2: is kind of embarrassing, you know, yesterday I'm watching the

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Speaker 2: games that I'm a lot more calm and like, okay,

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Speaker 2: this is good. Things are working go going my way.

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Speaker 2: Everything's breaking and the biggest sweats obviously with the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: if anyone's ever been fired after a win, but holy cow,

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Speaker 2: Nick Sirianni was just so bad. I mean, just whacky

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Speaker 2: stuff happening all around the league. I guess I just

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Speaker 2: to be a big story today. And that's what went

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Speaker 2: Cowboys for three plus quarters. They had are you ready

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Speaker 2: for this? Two hundred and thirty three rushing yards through

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Speaker 2: three quarters. They just ran all over them. Derek Henry,

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Speaker 2: as you know, we said on this podcast it was

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Speaker 2: clip if you're on social media yesterday of Ceedee Lamb

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Speaker 2: talking to an offensive lineman of the Cowboys, number seventy

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Speaker 2: and Dak Prescott and he is just not happy. Now,

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Speaker 2: Ceedee Lamb did have a fumble. Someone punched it out.

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Speaker 2: I think it was the rookie Wiggins had a nice

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Speaker 2: punch out of Ceedee Lamb in the red zone, which

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Speaker 2: was a killer. And Lamb is angry because he's not

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Speaker 2: And I'm not ready to call ced Lamb a diva

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Speaker 2: are like, he dropping some f bombs and he's just

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Speaker 2: Get me the ball, and he's really complaining. Now, Lamb

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Speaker 2: had seven targets, four catches, sixty seven yards. Jake Ferguson

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Speaker 2: only caught two of them. Dak was not particularly sharp,

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Speaker 2: Dak was not particularly good, twenty eight of fifty one.

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Speaker 2: But you saw you started to see cracks in the foundation. Okay,

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Speaker 2: last week, I mean, they basically were an embarrassment and

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Speaker 2: Saints and the Saints are amazing. We saw the Saints. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Saints ain't amazing, and last week, you know, gave up

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Speaker 2: Now they were able to save face with a late

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Speaker 2: comeback with three fourth quarter touchdowns hot garbage time. Basically,

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Speaker 2: said it. You see at the same time, Dak and

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Speaker 2: the offensive lineman both turn around and walk away. And

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to think. And again, I know this is

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Speaker 2: small potatoes, but I'm I'm sitting here thinking of my

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Speaker 2: men's basketball team, and you know, we've been together for

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Speaker 2: four seasons and it's men's rec league hoops, but we

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Speaker 2: all take it seriously. I cannot recall a time where

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Speaker 2: one teammate f bombed another, not one. Now, guys have

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Speaker 2: it's tough for me to think about what Dak could

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Speaker 2: Dak's under pressure. He got sacked three times. I know, Seed,

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Speaker 2: like they have no running game to speak of, none,

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Speaker 2: And this shouldn't have been a surprise anybody in Dallas, right,

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Speaker 2: And it's like, okay, Dallas faces the Giants on Thursday

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Speaker 2: of bounced back with a nice one over Arizona, the

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Speaker 2: forty nine Ers who goodness, gracious, are one and two

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Speaker 2: They're They're really not healthy at all. But you start

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Speaker 2: looking at these games Falcons, Eagles, Texans, folks, the Cowboys

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Speaker 2: At this rate, it is not looking good in Dallas.

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Speaker 2: When the owner is talking all week, I haven't heard

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Speaker 2: ceedee Lamb barking at Dak Prescott, the defense getting run over,

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Speaker 2: But I don't know. Michael Parson is not doing a

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Speaker 2: but things are unraveling rather quickly, and we're starting to

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Speaker 2: see good teams in the NFC. Like, folks, Minnesota's here

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Speaker 2: to say, Okay, they're not going anywhere except up Minnesota's legit.

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Speaker 2: tough tough out. If you ask me right now, Jason,

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Speaker 2: who do you like neutral Field, Arizona or Dallas? That's

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Speaker 3: Rob ooohere's this spicy take for a Monday morning to

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Speaker 3: They got the highest paid quarterback in football, I believe

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Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson, you know, conversion there in the last minute

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Speaker 3: I've read a's that online that their top four rotational

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Speaker 3: That's how bad their rush defense has been. So if

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Speaker 2: So it's funny you say Dak through at fifty one times,

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Speaker 2: so one other quarterback through what over fifty times Sunday?

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Speaker 2: What the hell in what was mostly a one score game,

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Speaker 2: is Caleb Williams throwing the ball fifty two times? What

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Speaker 2: are we doing against the Colts, who have the worst

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Speaker 2: the season. They are Rob G's team. He you know,

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Speaker 2: DeVante Adams, we're gonna hear, We're gonna hear the trade

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you heard of the super Bowl they're calling that

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Speaker 3: Antonio Piers. Okay, Antonio Piers, call a spade to spade.

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Speaker 3: Then he goes and says, I'm gonna be position coach

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's brutal. They made Andy Dalton look so competent.

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Speaker 2: don't know what you do with Bryce Young here. I

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Speaker 2: just just expedite a trade. I don't think Andy Dalton's

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Speaker 2: couple buddies had the Browns in Survivor They're out after

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Speaker 2: it was a tough one. Forty nine Ers, leading by ten,

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Speaker 2: Let me quickly do a couple of minutes, Rob, I

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Speaker 2: They literally don't know what they're talking about. Brock Party

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Speaker 2: The Niners just blew this game. Special teams wise, that

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Speaker 2: They just fell apart. This ain't on brock Purty, Guys.

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Speaker 2: I know some people are gonna try to make that.

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Speaker 2: Don't take the bait. They're just trying to reel you in.

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Speaker 2: Cowhard may even do this. I'm gonna ignore. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: that you should win. Now you've played the Patriots, you

424
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Speaker 2: should win that and the Cardinals. But the problem is

425
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Speaker 2: you're looking up in the standings at Seattle and Rob

426
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 2: this schedule gets really tough for San fran I mean,

427
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 2: we're talking about games against the Lions, the Packers, they

428
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Speaker 2: got the Cowboys who could still be feisty. Obviously they

429
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Speaker 2: have to play the Chiefs. They got to play the Bills. Again,

430
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Speaker 2: there's a I bet the under. You guys know that

431
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,399
Speaker 2: season win total. That was one that we talked about.

432
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 2: But you start to look at this Niners team and

433
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, boy, one of these guys coming back,

434
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,159
Speaker 2: because honestly, it's if they don't get dudes back quickly.

435
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Speaker 2: We I mean again, they were favored by six and

436
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Speaker 2: a half over the Rams, they were favored, I believe

437
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 2: by four and a half or five against the Vikings.

438
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Speaker 2: They're gonna be favored against the Cardinals against the Patriots.

439
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 2: They need to win both those games because you don't

440
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 2: want to slip into too big of a hole. And

441
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, it's like, oh, we're not

442
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 2: getting Debo back. Christian McCaffrey's going to be out seven

443
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 2: weeks instead of four, and this snowballs rob We know

444
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 2: the curse of going to the Super Bowl and losing.

445
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,679
Speaker 2: What about going to the NFC Championship four times in

446
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 2: five years? And I've talked about this before with NBA teams,

447
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 2: you just get worn down from all these postseason runs,

448
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 2: and this team is beat up and just an inexplicable

449
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,959
Speaker 2: loss to the Rams at one and two. I believe

450
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 2: the Niners are in some trouble. I think they'll make

451
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 2: a wild card and hopefully be healthy and make a run.

452
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Speaker 2: But I don't think Rob it's not a slam dunk

453
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Speaker 2: that this Niners team's gonna be in the playoffs. It's not.

454
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Speaker 2: The NFC is very difficult, Eagles have an easy schedule.

455
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,640
Speaker 2: I'm just this Packers team looks pretty good. I don't

456
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 2: know if the Niners are gonna get healthy quickly enough

457
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Speaker 2: to turn this around.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, I think they're going to make

459
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Speaker 3: the playoffs. I think that they are well coached, and

460
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Speaker 3: I think brock Perty's a study.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: I've been saying that for years now that I think

463
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Speaker 3: they're gonna find a way get in the playoffs. The problem, though,

464
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Speaker 3: as you mentioned, is that division. I know that the Rams,

465
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Speaker 3: I believe were one and two, and the Cardinals saying,

466
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Speaker 3: but the Seattle Seahawks sitting atop that division, don't sleep

467
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Speaker 3: on them. Okay. I read a stat late Sunday night

468
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Speaker 3: before recording this podcast that the Seahawks are the first

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Speaker 3: team in NFL, well, excuse me, the first team to

470
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Speaker 3: start three to zero and allow fewer than one hundred

471
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Speaker 3: and fifty pass yards in each game since the nineteen

472
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Speaker 3: seventy nine Steelers. Okay, this is not smoking mirrors.

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Speaker 2: Well wait, we should mention who are the quarterbacks they face?

474
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Speaker 2: Rob We should at least mention that, just to be fair.

475
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Speaker 3: I mean, do we have to mention it?

476
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Speaker 2: Did they not vote Nicks?

477
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Speaker 3: You heard it? The Skyler Thompson was in there, you know,

478
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Speaker 3: but hey.

479
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Speaker 2: Tim boyleil somebody posted Tim Boyle had to come in

480
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 2: because Skyler Thompson got like a punctured lung or something.

481
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Speaker 2: Somebody posted Tim college stats and I remember this because

482
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Speaker 2: remember we talked about he was on the Jets last year.

483
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 2: So Tim Boyle in college at Yukon had one touchdown

484
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 2: and thirteen interceptions, that's right. And then he transferred to

485
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Speaker 2: Eastern Kentucky, which is like Division two, and at I

486
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 2: think eleven touchdowns at thirteen picks. How is he in

487
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 2: the NFL. He's on his seventheen since twenty twenty one,

488
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 2: so Seattle's feasting on bad quarterbacks. And then last week

489
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 2: it was like Jacoby Brissett.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was Nick's Brissette Skyler Thompson. Right, but

491
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Speaker 3: here's the thing. Say what you want about the competition,

492
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 3: and that's fair. They're doing what you're supposed to do

493
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Speaker 3: against bad competition.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 3: We say this about the Jets last week. The Jets

496
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 3: dominated the Patriots in a way that if you are

497
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Speaker 3: a legitimate contender, that's what you're supposed to do. Okay.

498
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Speaker 3: We thought the Sanmransco forty nine ers were legitimate contenders

499
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Speaker 3: entering this season. They faced a Rams team that was

500
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Speaker 3: down multiple starting offensive linemen, both of their top wide receivers,

501
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 3: several guys along the defense, and they found a way

502
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 3: to gag it away. Right, So again, say what you

503
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 3: want about who Seattle's facing. They're taking care of business

504
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 3: in a way that a lot of teams around the

505
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 3: league right now just are not doing. All right, And

506
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Speaker 3: as far as the forty nine er goes, I'm glad

507
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 3: you mentioned the brock party angle because according to the

508
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 3: broadcast we'll see what the finals num going to being

509
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 3: later today, there were six drop passes for the Sanrusco

510
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 3: forty nine ers. All right, according to the broadcast, if

511
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Speaker 3: you take out those drops. Brock Party was averaging twelve

512
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Speaker 3: point two yards per pass and just under ninety two

513
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 3: percent completion. Like, what more can you say about him

514
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 3: at this point? Like the mister irrelevant thing has gone

515
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 3: flushed that down the toilet. He is a legitimate franchise quarterback.

516
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 3: He is an upper echelon quarterback. Just couldn't have the

517
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,959
Speaker 3: big arm, he doesn't have the fleet foot like Lamar.

518
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 3: He's not big and rocked up like Josh Allen. He

519
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 3: just plays quarterback at an extremely high level. And it's

520
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 3: disappointing that this San Francisco forty nine Ers defense and

521
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 3: more importantly, the San Francisco forty nine Ers special teams

522
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 3: let him down in a game where he played damn

523
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 3: near perfect football and again because they lost. Because it

524
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 3: happened without CMC and Debo and Kittle. You're gonna see

525
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 3: that stack come up the next time the Niners play

526
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 3: and Deebo's out again, they get me out next week.

527
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 3: Brock Purty stats with Deebo Samuel, rock Purty stats without

528
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Speaker 3: Deebo Samuel. He just can't win without the rest of

529
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Speaker 3: the Avengers. And it's unfortunate because anybody who watched that game.

530
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Speaker 3: I had the two screens going, so I watched my

531
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 3: Raiders disappoint I watch the Niners. Kind of gag went

532
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 3: away there at the end. The reason the Niners loss

533
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 3: was not Brock party. Let's get that out of the way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm with you on the party again. I'm

535
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 2: not saying paying sixty million dollars, I just he ain't

536
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 2: the reason they're one and two.

537
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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

538
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539
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540
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:13,920
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541
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Speaker 2: So I want to hit on two more apologies to

542
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 2: Steelers fans. I know you're all tuning in so I

543
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 2: can eat crow because they're three and zero and you

544
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 2: guys are thumping your chest. Just the fields was good,

545
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 2: but we'll save it for during the week. I need

546
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 2: to well obviously touch on Chiefs Falcons at a second,

547
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 2: but I just want to quickly go in on Saints

548
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 2: Eagles for a moment. Okay, I'm not fire the coach

549
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 2: guy in week three after a win, but Nick Sieriani,

550
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 2: in my opinion, did everything in his power to screw

551
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 2: up the Eagles and cost them the game against the Saints.

552
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: It was mystifying stuff.

553
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: Rob.

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Speaker 2: So if you just covered up the names of the

555
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 2: top and looked at the box score, you would be like, oh,

556
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 2: my gosh, one team got murdered. Who did somebody lose

557
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 2: by thirty because the Eagles out gained The Eagles outgain

558
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 2: in the Saints on the road by over two hundred

559
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 2: and fifty yards. Eagles average six point nine yards per play.

560
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 2: They moved the ball at will. It wasn't It was

561
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 2: just awesome watching them. And then they get into the

562
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 2: red zone and it's like, oh boy, here's Jalen Hurts

563
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 2: forcing another interception. I mean, how many bad interceptions does

564
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts have to have? And I think I told

565
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 2: you guys about my buddy, my neighbor, who big Eagles

566
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 2: fan watches every game, will fly to the big ones.

567
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 2: He's out on Hurts and it's not apparently just him.

568
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: There's like a large segment of Philadelphia Eagles fans in

569
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 2: Philly who are sick of the Jaalen Hurts experience. They're

570
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 2: just like, too many turnovers, He's not making good decisions.

571
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 2: That red zone pick was really annoying. Honey, Badger picked

572
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 2: it off, but then he gets stripsacked. Okay, and then

573
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,959
Speaker 2: Nick Sirianni starts compounding the mistakes by continually deciding, Oh,

574
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 2: it's it's fourth and two, I'm not gonna take the

575
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 2: points for screw points. And he goes for it and

576
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 2: they fail and you get nothing. And then they go

577
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 2: for it again and fail and get nothing, and then they

578
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 2: get a punt blocked and it just snowballs and the

579
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 2: Eagles defense is playing out of its mind. I gotta

580
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 2: give Vic Fangio a shout out in the second. But Rob,

581
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 2: I'm watching this and I'm like, what, there's no rhyme

582
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 2: or reason. And Rob made a good point after that

583
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 2: Eagles Falcons game. It's like when you go to the

584
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 2: blackjack table and you don't kind of follow the rules.

585
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 2: You just kind of wing it and you're like, I

586
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 2: think I'm gonna kick here, Eh, I'm gonna go for it.

587
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do He's just like all over the place.

588
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 2: So this time he was consistent. I'm going for it

589
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 2: all the time regardless, and that's not a good strategy. Yes,

590
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 2: being consistent is right, but it was just like, what,

591
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 2: it's three nothing? They were losing three nothing the entire

592
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 2: first half. That was the score at half time, and

593
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 2: it's like, could he easily be leading at this point

594
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 2: with some puelbos Now, I'm sure in his head he's like, boy,

595
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,479
Speaker 2: there's a juggernaut of a Saints offense that forty seven points,

596
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 2: forty four points this well, Vic Fangio shut them down,

597
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 2: and it was like a little thing in the broadcast

598
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 2: pointed out they usually they play a four man front

599
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 2: with Philip Philly, Fonjio went with a five man front

600
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 2: from the jump because he's like, I'm gonna choke out

601
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 2: this run. They run a lot of the Kubiak runs,

602
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 2: a lot of the Shanahan stuff that Aaron Schatz talked

603
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 2: about last week, and by putting a fifth defender on

604
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,719
Speaker 2: the line, Kamara had no room for anything. And then

605
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 2: the Saints center McCoy gets hurt on the first series,

606
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 2: he's done, and Jalen Carter, who who had been pretty quiet,

607
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 2: just starts wrecking the interior. Saints can't run the ball.

608
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 2: They start getting pressure up the middle on Car and

609
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 2: it's like Saints can't do anything. But the Eagles were

610
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 2: losing because Sirianni kept screwing it up, and I was.

611
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 2: I was at my wits end. First half, okay, the

612
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 2: Eagles outgained the Saints one ninety one to seventy one.

613
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 2: Eagles didn't punt and they had zero points. How does

614
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 2: that friggin happen? Nick Sirianni Lane Johnson gets a concussion.

615
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw the shot. Davonte Smith

616
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 2: took nasty hit, and then this prick on the Saints

617
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 2: spits on DeVante Smith when he's down. Somebody has video

618
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: I posted online and it's ugly. The guy's gonna get fine.

619
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Speaker 2: I think you should be suspended spitting on someone after

620
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 2: what appeared to be a real dirty hit. It was disgusting.

621
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 2: So you're entering the fourth quarter, Derek Carr had fifty

622
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 2: nine yards passing. I'm the idiot rob who on the

623
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 2: waiver wire. I thought, oh, cars putting up huge numbers.

624
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 3: I gotta grab. I gave.

625
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 2: I paid forty dollars out of my one hundred that

626
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 2: you have in the league or whatever, and I paid

627
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 2: for car. I started to be going seven f and

628
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 2: fantasy points. Yeah, he did nothing, and still the Saints

629
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: are winning despite nothing. So of course, you know what happened.

630
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley saves their bacon the Eagles with a sixty

631
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 2: five yard touchdown run, and it just it changed the game.

632
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 2: And then the Eagles were able to barely pull it out.

633
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 2: But it was one of those wins where it's like,

634
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 2: too many bad things happened, this is a lucky win.

635
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 2: And then I know there's a lot of fans out

636
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 2: there who were like, we got the win, we got

637
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,239
Speaker 2: the win, and that's all the counts winning Evans. No, no, no,

638
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 2: that's not how it works, not in a seventeen game season.

639
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 2: Not when injuries are mounted. Okay, if AJ Brown's out

640
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 2: and Lane Johnson's out and Devonti Smith is out, this

641
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: team's cooked. They can't they won't be able to do anything.

642
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 2: You say, que Barklay got forty carries and be done

643
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 2: by Halloween. Okay, so you can start to see stuff

644
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 2: when you watch these games. It's difficult to back Nick

645
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 2: Sirianni until he gets a real grasp on what the

646
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 2: hell he wants to be, Like do you wanna score

647
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 2: points or do you want to just roll the dice

648
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 2: every fourth down? And rob it was just absolutely frustrating,

649
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 2: And I know Eagles fans are ticked off. I'm just

650
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 2: telling you, I don't want to be fired the coach guy.

651
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 2: I don't see a scenario where Sirianni survives this season.

652
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 2: It just it almost feels like Brandon Staley, but the inverse,

653
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 2: like Staley, you know, was doing this whole go for

654
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 2: go for it, and then like the media got on

655
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 2: his case and he backed out and then he was

656
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 2: just like afraid. And I think Sirianni's probably in his

657
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 2: own head a little bit, and it's just frustrating to

658
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 2: watch as an Eagles backer.

659
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and again, I have references about fifteen minutes ago

660
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 3: Antonio Pierce Nick Sirianni's only job is the vibes, and

661
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 3: we knew coming into this season the vibes are not good.

662
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 3: In Philadelphia. You don't get multiple different sporting media outlets

663
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 3: to write scathing features on your locker room unless there's,

664
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 3: you know, a true story there. You don't get ESPN

665
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 3: and the Athletic and CBS and Fox all separately at

666
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 3: different times of the year to come up with commentary

667
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 3: about your locker room unless your locker room is terrible.

668
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 3: So he was this close to getting fired in the offseason,

669
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 3: they bring him back, and you can tell just by

670
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,720
Speaker 3: watching them, and we'll get to the analytics in a second,

671
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 3: you can tell by watching them that they are not

672
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 3: really enjoying themselves, the same thing that happened lat year

673
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 3: when they start out ten to one and you kept

674
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 3: hearing Jason Kelsey and Jalen Hurston guys say, aj Brown say,

675
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 3: it're in the locker room way. You know, we're winning,

676
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 3: but it's it's not good. It's not good here, and like, hey, well,

677
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 3: why are you guys looking so glum? You know you're

678
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 3: seven eight one nine one, Like what's the problem. Well,

679
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 3: you know, we can just tell. And the same thing

680
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 3: is carried over into this season. Two things to illustrate

681
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 3: your point though about Nick Sirianni and his you know

682
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 3: issues as a coach, that sakwon Barkley touchdown sixty five

683
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 3: yarder that kind of really propelled them there in this

684
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 3: and I think the second half, you know, according to

685
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 3: next Gen Stats, sixty two of it was beyond expected.

686
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 3: So if he doesn't break this this run and breaks

687
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 3: several tackles to get into the open field, then we're

688
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 3: having a totally different conversation, all right, that's number one

689
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 3: and number two. You know you mentioned him in the

690
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 3: blackjack table, and he's again he's going on vibes. He's

691
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 3: not going on any system. He's not going by what

692
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 3: the numbers say, what the stats say. He's just going

693
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 3: by his gut. And that's and that's never a good thing,

694
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 3: either in gambling or in football when it comes to

695
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 3: making decisions like this. You know as well as I

696
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 3: do that a lot of these analytics almost always say

697
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 3: to go for it, right because they say the numbers

698
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 3: are always going to be in your favor. As long

699
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 3: as you have a competent offense, it almost always is

700
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 3: going to be in your favor to go for it,

701
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 3: whether or by an additional one percent two percent of edge.

702
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 3: Either way, this goes to tell you where Nick Sirianni

703
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 3: is as a coach in the first half. They're going

704
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 3: to end the first half and I think they're in

705
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 3: goal position. ESPN next Gen Stats the model strongly recommends

706
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 3: a fueld goal attempt on fourth down, not a plus

707
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 3: one plus two plus three percent plus eight percent win

708
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 3: percentage to kick it instead of going for it. What

709
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 3: does Nick Sirianni do? I'm just you know, the vibes.

710
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 3: Feel good on your man. I feel like Saquon get that,

711
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 3: get two yards. Let's give it to hi Oh tackle

712
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 3: for loss, no points. Like he's just he's living by

713
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 3: the seat of his pants. And if aj Brown doesn't

714
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 3: come back, Davonte Smith ends up being banged up. There's

715
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 3: it's so reliant on the talent of like five or

716
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 3: six guys to overcome everything that's wrong with their team

717
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 3: that I'm more worried about Phillip. You mention you're worried

718
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,439
Speaker 3: about San Francisco on and Dallas. I'm much more worried

719
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 3: about the Philadelphia Eagles, even though they're two and one

720
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 3: than about the other two teams.

721
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 2: The only reason I would say not is the schedule

722
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 2: and the division. Like, I don't like who's the second

723
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 2: best team in the Eagles Division? Is it Dallas? It's

724
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 2: not the Giants. We'll see maybe it's Washington after tonight.

725
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's just it's it's frustrating. And this is

726
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 2: why gambling kind of sucks, is you have to back

727
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 2: some of these. Now, I did get very lucky with

728
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 2: the Chiefs. They they cover uh and win against the Falcons. Now,

729
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: Rob this was a this was a weird game, Like

730
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes. So there's another like red zone interception that

731
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 2: was like, what, what the hell is that? This is

732
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 2: not the best quarterback in the history of the sport

733
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 2: or second whatever you want to call him or fifth

734
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 2: I don't he just hasn't looked crisp. And yet still

735
00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 2: the Chiefs are find themselves ahead and the Falcons are

736
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 2: storming back. Right. And this is where it gets interesting,

737
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 2: rob because we talk about kick or go and this

738
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 2: is like a big wood. So the Falcons because Butcker

739
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 2: missed an extra point. The Falcons are down five. They

740
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: drive to the Kansas City six yard line. There's four

741
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 2: minutes left. You're down five, so you can kick the

742
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 2: field goal to get within two, right, and then say,

743
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: you know, four minutes left, can can Patrick Mahomes just

744
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 2: drain the clock? Probably old Patrick Mahomes probably could, you know,

745
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 2: like second year Patrick Mahomes, third year Patrick Mahomes. I

746
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 2: don't know. Anyways, Falcons are like, we're gonna go for it.

747
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 2: There was a flag that should have been called to

748
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 2: play before against Kyle Pitts. The screen grabs. I'm sure

749
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 2: you've seen them and just missed it. I don't know

750
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 2: how the refs always get involved in Chiefs games. I

751
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 2: don't know how that works, but.

752
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 3: Always funny thing.

753
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 2: Anyway, it's uncanny. So yeah, it's just every freaking week

754
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 2: with the Chiefs and rest. So anyways, turnover on downs,

755
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, great, Chiefs just get you know,

756
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 2: I get four first downs and this is over. Maybe

757
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 2: three Chiefs go with the kids steal who I think

758
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 2: got hurt, but he gets two yards, Mahomes gets six yards,

759
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 2: and then Mahomes just totally misses a wide open receiver

760
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 2: like uncharacteristic stuff like throw it in the dirt, and

761
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 2: they have to punt. They basically had the ball for

762
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 2: a minute thirty eight, got a punt, and now I

763
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 2: was like, oh great, here comes the Falcons coming back

764
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 2: door Falcons aided by some makeup calls. Maybe right, there

765
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: were three flags that got them first downs. They get

766
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 2: to the Kansas City thirteen and again Rob and I'm

767
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 2: not playing that game, but this is just the reality.

768
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 2: If they had kicked last time with four minutes left,

769
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 2: they would have been down two. If the defense could

770
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 2: get one stop, they would have a chance to win

771
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 2: the game. With Kup who made a career long fifty

772
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 2: four yarder, but they didn't kick, and so now from

773
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 2: the thirteen they need the touchdown, and inexplicably they don't

774
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 2: have a toush push move because Kirk Cousins you know,

775
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 2: can't can't do that. They decide to run like what

776
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 2: was it like a stretch with bj On Robinson and

777
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 2: I mean, what one needing one yard and Bolton just

778
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 2: knife through and wraps him up in the backfield, and

779
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 2: it's like, oh my gosh, thank goodness, I had the

780
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 2: Chiefs like the Falcons. Rob like watching these coaching decisions

781
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 2: like Raheem Morris, but again, there's no win, right because

782
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 2: if he had kicked the first time and they go

783
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 2: down two and then they never get the ball back.

784
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 2: While Raheie Morris is an idiot. You shouldn't have gone

785
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 2: you should you shouldn't kicked, you should have gone for it, right,

786
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 2: You can't really win, And I don't want to beat

787
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 2: that guy playing that game. But watching so many of

788
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 2: these decisions play out, specifically with the Eagles, you just

789
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 2: gotta wonder, like, I'm not afraid of the Chiefs if

790
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 2: I'm opposing defensive coordinator anymore. I'm just not Oh, no way,

791
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 2: he saw you see the Travis Kelce stuff. Kelsey had

792
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 2: a catch on third down and then he got the

793
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 2: ball knocked out of his hands. I know he had

794
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 2: four catches, but for thirty yards he can't get separation.

795
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 2: He's slow. They just they're not a scary team. Rishie

796
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 2: Rice is really good twelve catches on fourteen targets. But

797
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,919
Speaker 2: other than that, nobody on this team. And I don't

798
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 2: know where it's coming from. The Checko's gonna be out

799
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 2: like eight weeks, maybe ten.

800
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 3: If at all. I mean any Re said he might

801
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 3: be done for the season. But just two points to

802
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 3: illustrate what's wrong with the situation with the Chiefs, So

803
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 3: we do a whole podcast on it. I don't know

804
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 3: what have time for it. But Number one, the Chiefs

805
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 3: have won their last nine games, including the playoffs, by

806
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 3: a combined total of fifty four points. That is the

807
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 3: smallest margin of victory by any team during a nine

808
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 3: to zero stretch in NFL history. So to your point,

809
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 3: they're winning these games with smoking merrors by the skin

810
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 3: of their teeth, all right, that's number one. Number two,

811
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:42,720
Speaker 3: and again, this is when we could do a whole

812
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 3: podcast on if we wanted to Patrick Mahomes in his

813
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 3: last eight regular season games. Now, so this is half

814
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 3: a season's worth of sample size. This is not two weeks,

815
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 3: This is not a month. This is half a season.

816
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 3: Eleven touchdowns, nine interceptions. Okay, we are gonna start a

817
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 3: dialogue about Patrick Mahomes. He is, for my money again,

818
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 3: I think he is going to go down as the

819
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 3: greatest quarterback who ever lived. Having said that, he has

820
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 3: enough positive, highlight noteworthy plays and performances in his career

821
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 3: that we can call it when we see it when

822
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 3: he's not playing well right now and basically for the

823
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 3: last year and a half in the regular season, the

824
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 3: postseason obviously to get the whole other level, but in

825
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 3: the regular season he has not looked anything close like

826
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 3: the best quarterback in football. And yet as recently as

827
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 3: twenty four hours ago, he was the betting favorite to

828
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 3: win in NFLMVP. What there is nothing about Patrick Mahomes

829
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 3: and this Chiefs offense anymore going back a year and

830
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 3: a half now that scares you whatsoever. This is now

831
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 3: a defensive team. This is now a special teams team.

832
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 3: To be honest, this is a lot similar to what

833
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 3: we saw in New England with Tom Brady. Tom Brady

834
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 3: got all the headlines because he's the one who was,

835
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 3: you know, with all the Super Bowl rings and you

836
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 3: know he's the goat and YadA, YadA YadA. But you

837
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 3: go back down the line year and a year out,

838
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 3: that was a defense first, kicking second, Tom do a

839
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 3: couple of game winning drives when we need it. That's

840
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 3: where Patrick Mahomes is in his career right now. There

841
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 3: is nothing about this offense. And if you play fantasy football,

842
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 3: you know exactly what I'm talking about because outside of

843
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 3: this season, basically for she Rice, name the passing attack

844
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 3: player including Mahomes in fantasy that was every week starting

845
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 3: for you, there isn't one, no Travis Kelcey even last

846
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 3: year who was drafted. I believe someone in the first

847
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 3: round consensus across fantasy finished like in the bottom half

848
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Speaker 3: of the top ten. And that's only because of sheer volume,

849
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Speaker 3: because that know, other receivers get the ball to. This

850
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Speaker 3: Chiefs offense is doesn't scare anyone anymore. They're living off

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Speaker 3: reputation and they have been for over a year. And

852
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Speaker 3: as soon as a team realizes that and they don't

853
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Speaker 3: pull over. He Morris and they say, hey, we have

854
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Speaker 3: to go over it here because we don't even get

855
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Speaker 3: the ball back. We're probably gonna get the ball back.

856
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Speaker 3: To be honest with you, the way this dophense has

857
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Speaker 3: been moving the ball, not scoring, turning the ball over

858
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Speaker 3: on characteristically, stop being afraid of Kansas City Football America.

859
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Speaker 3: Just they're not who you think they are.

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Speaker 2: It's like they're the Cowboys right with Ceedee Lamb Rachid

861
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Speaker 2: Rice in that role, except Mahomes is gonna, you know,

862
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Speaker 2: dial up some stuff again.

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Speaker 1: They are.

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Speaker 2: They survived the toe of Isaiah Likely in week one.

865
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Speaker 2: By the way, Isaiah Likely twelve targets in week one.

866
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Speaker 2: Every I had him on my fantasy team. He has

867
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Speaker 2: four targets since then. Like, what are we doing, Ravens. Anyways,

868
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Speaker 2: So the Chiefs survived the likely toe and then the

869
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Speaker 2: fourth and sixteen flag leading to the field goal, and

870
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Speaker 2: now they survive Braghie Morris and Falcons ineptitude. This is

871
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Speaker 2: not a great football team right now. They're just not.

872
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Speaker 2: I'm sure January comes around, they'll turn it on, but

873
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Speaker 2: just it's okay to say right now they're not.

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Speaker 1: do it. Here's your best bet, all right, Rob.

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Speaker 2: Real quick, because I I you five to zero in

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Speaker 2: the contest, and I only have two bets outstanding on

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Speaker 2: tonight's games. I have the over forty eight in Washington Bengals,

883
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Speaker 2: and I have a teaser. I tease the Bills down

884
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 2: to just win the game and the Bengals to win

885
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 2: by cover by one. So six and a half point

886
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 2: teaser Bills and Bengals. Now that was from a couple

887
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Speaker 2: of days ago. I don't know if those numbers are

888
00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 2: still exactly there, but in my opinion, it's tough to,

889
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 2: you know, lay a big number with the Bengals. Again,

890
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Speaker 2: I don't think that defense is particularly great. I don't

891
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 2: know what to expect if Jaden Daniels in Monday Night Football.

892
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 2: But we did see Week three Rob Caleb Williams had

893
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 2: his best game by far. They didn't win, but he

894
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 2: had his best game, and Bo Nix was outstanding in Tampa.

895
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Speaker 2: He was really in control, no touchdown passes, but running

896
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Speaker 2: and accuracy. So it takes a few weeks, and I

897
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Speaker 2: think there's a world where Daniels can keep this close.

898
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Speaker 2: So I would lean commanders getting the points. I don't

899
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Speaker 2: know what to make a Buffalo in Jacksonville, although I

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Speaker 2: will add that the Owen two teams of which Jacksonville

901
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Speaker 2: is oh so were the Bengals by the way, Oh

902
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 2: and two teams went five and one on Sunday. Everybody

903
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Speaker 2: won except Tennessee, which you know, Will the Will Levis

904
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Speaker 2: experience remains really really ugly. But do you have anything

905
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Speaker 2: from your fade rob on the on these two tonight?

906
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Speaker 3: Nothing from that specific, you know, the friendly fade picks.

907
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Speaker 3: But I did look at the lines before we started recording.

908
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Speaker 3: The one that I feel great about is Buffalo. I

909
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Speaker 3: see it right now minus five and a half. That's

910
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Speaker 3: basically the consensus at this point. I don't know if

911
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Speaker 3: anyone knows this, but Trevor Lawrence through the last seven

912
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Speaker 3: games of his NFL career might be, you know, a

913
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Speaker 3: bottom five quarterback in all of football.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's harse.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you've seen it. Let me if

916
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Speaker 3: you can pull the stats up as we're recording.

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Speaker 2: Here, last seven, so he was hurt last year for

918
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Speaker 2: some of course he was.

919
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Speaker 3: That's you know, the like, we're we got to stop

920
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Speaker 3: making excuses for this man at this point, all right,

921
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Speaker 3: But Trevor Lawrence is just he's been really bad. I

922
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Speaker 3: can't find it right now as I'm talking, but just

923
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Speaker 3: take my work for it if you have time, America,

924
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Speaker 3: just look it up, all right. I think is his

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Speaker 3: seven game losing streak is the longest among active quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: in the NFL, and that includes guys like you know,

927
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Speaker 3: Bryce Young and den Daniel Jones's that's what I read

928
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Speaker 3: from ESPN. So I love the Bills minus five and

929
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Speaker 3: a half, even though I wasn't eining them coming into

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Speaker 3: the season. I'm just that low on Jackson coming in

931
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Speaker 3: for the Commanders and the Bengals, the number I see

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Speaker 3: across most of these shops is about seven and a half.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Now, I like the Bengals to win, but I believe

935
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Speaker 3: this season, teams that are at least a six point

936
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Speaker 3: or more underdog are something like nine and oh against

937
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Speaker 3: the spread, like something ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: So it's underdogs of five and a half are thirteen

939
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Speaker 2: and two against their spread this season, right, they went

940
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Speaker 2: four to oh on Sunday Thursday night. The Patriots did

941
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Speaker 2: not cover and I'll have to find the other one.

942
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Speaker 2: But thirteen and two, and that applies to both these games. Now,

943
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Speaker 2: will we see regression as this cannot continue forever with

944
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Speaker 2: these underdogs? You guys don't have the markets work. They

945
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 2: eventually tend towards the middle, but that would make Jacksonville

946
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Speaker 2: the lean. I can't imagine both dogs. By the way,

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Speaker 2: did you know there's back to back Monday night football

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Speaker 2: games this week and next week?

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Speaker 3: Makes no sense to me and I'm happy I watch it,

950
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Speaker 3: but that just that didn't make sense to me.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, next week's four pm slate is

952
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Speaker 2: pretty friggin gross. If you need to hang out with

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Speaker 2: your wife or girlfriend or whatever, your children. Washington on

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Speaker 2: a short week against Arizona, the unwatchable Patriots against the

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Speaker 2: beat up forty nine Ers. I mean, that's just going

956
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Speaker 2: to be ugly. The Browns and your Raiders, which is

957
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Speaker 2: just gross. You called it the toilet Bowl, and then

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs against maybe Taylor Heineke of the Chargers because

959
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 2: Herbert got hurt again trying to play against Pittsburgh. So

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Speaker 2: next week's four pm slate not great? All right, we

961
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Speaker 2: got way way way too long. I know Rob doesn't

962
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Speaker 2: like when we go like, what is this fifty five

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Speaker 2: minutes something like that, But you know, it was a

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Speaker 2: great week and a lot of fun. We are back Maniana.

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Speaker 2: Obviously a lot of reaction to the games, and we'll

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Speaker 2: talk to you then