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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of Hurdle. Emily a body here.

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Speaker 1: Big week for the podcast. Hurdle's been featured on runners

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Speaker 1: Today's guest is no Coal win offer. Nicole's a celebrity

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Speaker 1: trainer extraordinaire, well known for working with the one and

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Speaker 1: Only Madonna. She calls herself a global fitness artist and

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Speaker 1: created her signature NW method classes using her background and dance.

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Speaker 1: In this episode, went Offer talked about her Hurdle moment,

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Speaker 1: dancing in Wicked on Broadway and realizing that she truly

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Speaker 1: wasn't happy in her life or in her body and

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Speaker 1: needed to make a change. Let me tell you, Nicole

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Speaker 1: is like a pint size burst of energy. She was

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Speaker 1: so fun to sit down with when she was in

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Speaker 1: town for Propel's collapse last month, and when she walked

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Speaker 1: this bus of cute kids. So naturally she decided that

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Speaker 1: she should immediately start dancing, until every single kid on

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to say thanks for all of you

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Speaker 1: on the days when my legs don't want to move anymore.

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Speaker 1: Your interviews keep me going. Please also make more. I'm

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Speaker 1: If you email me, I will email you back. That's

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Speaker 1: how it works Emily at Hurdle US. And that's it.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to hurdling team. I'm sitting here today with

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Speaker 1: the Coole win offer first and foremost. Before we really

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Speaker 1: get into it, I've got to disclaim this voice is

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Speaker 1: in rough shape, so hurdlers, thank you for sticking with me.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Here with the cool win offer. She

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Speaker 1: is trainer to the stars. She has worked with some

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Speaker 1: awesome celebrities including Stella McCartney, Jennifer Connelly and probably the

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Speaker 1: biggest of them all, Madonna. I'm so happy to have

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Speaker 2: And I think your voice is a secondest thing I

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Speaker 1: I hope everyone feels that way. When we were chatting

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Speaker 1: on the phone before sitting down today, you told me

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Speaker 1: that one of the goals in your classes is to

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Speaker 1: help your clients stop thinking, stop the thinking brain, excuse

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Speaker 1: me from thinking, and move closer to their own physical truth.

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Speaker 1: And you described a class of yours like and I quote,

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Speaker 1: an underground late eighties banging nightclub with loud music. Everyone's sweaty,

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Speaker 2: I loved that. There go. Why don't you tell me

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Speaker 2: a little bit about your classes. Absolutely, the classes are

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Speaker 2: the most effective way to balance your energy, get your

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Speaker 2: muscles working in a new way. I counteract habitual movement

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Speaker 2: patterns that we do in everyday life. We're always moving forward, repeating, running, cycling.

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Speaker 1: And I would say from someone who hasn't had the

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Speaker 2: Is that correct? Absolutely? Yeah, all right. I was a

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Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about your background and dance.

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Speaker 1: I know you grew up in the Bronx, Yes, so

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Speaker 2: I grew up in the Bronx. That's where my dad

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Speaker 2: when she was sixteen. So growing up in the Bronx,

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Speaker 2: And the Bronx was also the start of commerce in

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Speaker 2: Yes. So I was lucky enough to book a my

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Speaker 2: So I did forty second Street, which is a tap

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Speaker 1: And I can't even imagine, like I wanted to I

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Speaker 1: Like I had a hard time adjusting at twenty two

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Speaker 2: I knew that that freedom that I did find was

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Speaker 1: And it was a great experience. So you did the

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Speaker 2: And then I did another show, Wicked, and it was

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Speaker 2: Joe Mantello is one of the best of the best

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Speaker 1: Don't you feel like that you have those great opportunities

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Speaker 1: and when you're teaching that it's not just about the workout.

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Speaker 2: It's so much bigger than that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I feel like, I mean, that's why my

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Speaker 1: voice is like this. I was teaching spin this morning,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes you just realize that you're really hitting home

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Speaker 1: and it's obviously in that moment, maybe not a two

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Speaker 1: to help them do both in your.

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Speaker 1: It's so great. Absolutely, it's so great. Okay, so Wicked,

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Speaker 1: You do Wicked and then dot dot Dot.

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Speaker 2: And then I was selected to go to Michael Howard Conservatory,

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Speaker 2: which is allowing actors to study body workshops to help

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Speaker 2: their skills. So I learned Alexander Technique, feld In Christ

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Speaker 2: Lucid body chakra work and then I use again the voice.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about the voice a new way to communicate

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Speaker 2: because being a dancer, you communicate with your body. So

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Speaker 2: if I was angry, I would crump it to you.

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Speaker 2: If I was sad, I would lyrical it to you.

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Speaker 2: But actors use their voice, So it was a totally

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Speaker 2: new way to communicate, to express yourself totally.

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Speaker 1: And I think you were telling me a little bit

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Speaker 2: been consciously intentionally creating time in my calendar and the

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Speaker 2: first person I give back to is me and I

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Speaker 2: never used to do that. And the more I schedule

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Speaker 2: wake up time, drink water time, relaxation time, massage time,

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Speaker 2: hike time, alone time, less phone time, the more people

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Speaker 2: come back to me, and the better I can be

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Speaker 2: to give more. Whereas before, I think in my twenties,

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Speaker 2: I was like, I have to do this, and I

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Speaker 2: have to do that, I have to do that, and

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Speaker 2: it was depleting my energy, not realizing when I'm selfish

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Speaker 2: with my time, I'm actually being better.

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Speaker 1: What's interesting, I think is a lot of people they

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Speaker 1: hear what you just said, and you're like, I'm scheduling

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Speaker 1: time for these eight activities, which should not be stressful activities,

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Speaker 1: But I feel like that's almost sometimes the barrier to

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Speaker 1: entry for some people to take me time is they

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Speaker 1: feel like it's almost kind of stressful to like figure

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Speaker 1: out when it's going to happen. So what would you

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Speaker 1: say to someone who feels like they just can't make

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Speaker 1: the time to make it all happen.

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Speaker 2: That they're moving too fast and doing too much. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think that that was a huge lesson that my

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Speaker 2: mentor taught me was integration of experiences, like the time

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Speaker 2: like after we have this podcast talk, I'm definitely going

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Speaker 2: to take twenty five minutes to integrate what I've learned

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Speaker 2: from you, what I think happened in my experience here

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Speaker 2: with you, and then like closing that and then going

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Speaker 2: to meet my next appointment.

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Speaker 1: I think that a really good tool that I started

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Speaker 1: using is in the mornings and the things I've scheduled.

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Speaker 1: One of them is taking about like five to ten

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Speaker 1: minutes to write three things that made me feel fulfilled

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Speaker 1: or happy down in a gratitude journal. And since doing that,

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Speaker 1: I feel like it makes me realize especially on the

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Speaker 1: days where I have a hard time maybe writing down

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Speaker 1: those three things?

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Speaker 2: What could I do differently?

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Speaker 1: How could I have tweaked something that it would have

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Speaker 1: put me in a better place, just a little you know,

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Speaker 1: personal reflection.

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Speaker 2: I love that it's special. It's really special. I forget

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Speaker 2: those simple things. Like you said, you have your gratitude journal,

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Speaker 2: like I feel like a huge lesson for me too,

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Speaker 2: is I didn't appreciate the things that I had until

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Speaker 2: they were gone. So I think you just reminded me

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Speaker 2: to remember to write those things down in the morning,

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Speaker 2: because you never know. We get so used to the

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Speaker 2: way our lives are and sometimes feel a lot better

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Speaker 2: at like those types of rituals. At night. I'm such

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Speaker 2: an early bird. Yeah, I'm like, well time you wake up?

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Speaker 1: God, three thirty, Thank god, it's not that extreme by

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Speaker 1: six every day?

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Speaker 2: Wow? What about you? Uh more seven thirty? You know,

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Speaker 2: And some people function better that way.

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Speaker 1: For me, I also go to bed typically speaking like

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Speaker 1: the four ten nice so I'm getting eight hours, and

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Speaker 1: I'll feel it on the days that I don't, I'll uh.

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Speaker 1: I had been teaching for the past year or a

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Speaker 1: six am class on Tuesdays. Oh so I'm alarms four

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Speaker 1: forty five. Subway is five twenty one, so I'm out

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Speaker 1: the door at five eleven to make that train.

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Speaker 2: It's been rough.

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Speaker 1: It's been rough, but it's taught me something right like,

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Speaker 1: so you take a step back and you think about

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Speaker 1: what you've learned from the experience that has taught me

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Speaker 1: diligence beyond and it's taught me that again being in

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Speaker 1: service of others. There were so many people that would

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Speaker 1: show up to that class and feel so think that

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Speaker 1: I was there to help them at that time, and

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Speaker 1: so you know what you learned something I learned to

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Speaker 1: be thankful in that being a little drowsy.

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Speaker 2: Uh have so much energy. I feel like if we

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Speaker 2: went out together, we would like turn up.

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Speaker 1: To turn up, turn up the town. I told I

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Speaker 1: told h Nicole before we started this podcast that I

507
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Speaker 1: used to teach dance. But what I didn't tell you

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Speaker 1: is I used to teach hip hop, which is a

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Speaker 1: little known about.

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Speaker 2: Emily.

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Speaker 1: What is some of the best advice that you have

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Speaker 1: been given in your career to not save the world

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Speaker 1: and what do you mean by that?

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Speaker 2: I had an experience with one of my mentors who

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Speaker 2: I was actually working with in business. And after that

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Speaker 2: experience ended, we reconnected three years later and he told

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Speaker 2: me the thing about you, Nicole is you don't need

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Speaker 2: to save the world. And I think I took it

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Speaker 2: as in my ambitious, strong fortitude, willing attitude of I'm

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Speaker 2: building a business and I have to do this now,

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Speaker 2: I had to do this yesterday. In my entrepreneurial spirit,

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Speaker 2: I would not take no for an answer. You will

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Speaker 2: not bully me man in business finance field. I am

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Speaker 2: going to do this. It's like it's actually going to

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Speaker 2: happen and I don't need to will it. So I

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Speaker 2: think when he told me, Nicole, you don't need to

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Speaker 2: save the world, it was like trust it's going to happen,

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Speaker 2: and you can relax and know it's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: And the more I relaxed and slowed down and breathed,

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Speaker 2: it made it so much easier. Like my life is

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Speaker 2: so easy now because things just come to me. So

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Speaker 2: I think that was the best piece of advice.

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Speaker 1: It's so funny, be guys, you work your tail off

534
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Speaker 1: and you're like, things are so easy now, But it's

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Speaker 1: easy because you become accustomed to this lifestyle. This grind

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Speaker 1: wouldn't you say, because maybe before you started working at

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Speaker 1: this capacity, you were, you know, on the other side

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Speaker 1: of your comfort zone. But once you pushed your comfort zone,

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Speaker 1: well you just pushed it forward a little bit, more

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Speaker 1: like you pushed it to the right. So it's like,

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Speaker 1: all right, I just got comfortable with this level. So

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Speaker 1: I've dial I've turned the dial to the right. We

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Speaker 1: pushed the volume up, and now I'm cool with this volume.

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Speaker 2: That's so true. But you didn't. You weren't there before.

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Speaker 2: That's such a wise perspective. I never even thought about that.

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Speaker 2: I had David Seek on the podcast.

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Speaker 1: He's the creator of a program at Equinox called Precision Running. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and he said, Uh, you can do a lot of

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Speaker 1: things good, but if you're so busy doing so many

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Speaker 1: things good, you'll never do one thing great.

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 1: I just got the chills. Oh, David Sikh, He's a bomb.

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Speaker 1: So great career advice. We love that you mentioned one

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Speaker 1: book before. Do you have a favorite book that you

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Speaker 1: like to give people?

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Speaker 2: M I have three. Ooh, I like that. I like

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Speaker 2: that you come prepared. One is The Thinking Body by

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Speaker 2: Mabel Todd. It's a very famous kind of kinesiology, kinetics

559
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Speaker 2: anatomy book, very simple read, one of Marilyn Monroe's favorites.

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Speaker 2: The second one would be The Alchemist by Paulo Coelo classic,

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Speaker 2: and the third is Unleash the Power Within by Tony Robbins.

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Speaker 2: I think those three books would pretty much sum up

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Speaker 2: anybody who's looking for a good, easy, inspiring read. I

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Speaker 2: love that you're on the Tony Robins dream. I'm about it.

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Speaker 1: I actually have a girlfriend right now that's at one

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Speaker 1: of his seminars. Really, it's in Chicago. Who do you

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Speaker 1: look up to?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: Big question aside from you know, mister Robbins himself, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, or where? Or maybe a little bit.

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Speaker 1: More loosely like where do you draw inspiration from?

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Speaker 2: All right, I'll answer that question first. So inspiration comes

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Speaker 2: to me by through art, going to museums. I was

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Speaker 2: at Reagan Projects in LA. They were just showing Marilyn

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Speaker 2: Minter work, one of my favorite artists. Going to the MoMA.

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Speaker 2: Cindy Sherman's another favorite artists. I love psychology. Freud is

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Speaker 2: a huge inspiration to me and just the connection between

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Speaker 2: mind and body, so I'll watch documentaries about him. I

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Speaker 2: love fashion. My favorite right now is Virgil for off White.

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Speaker 2: I also love Margiella and I get my inspiration visually

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Speaker 2: just from seeing pictures or seeing magazines. And also traveling

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Speaker 2: is huge. Whenever I go to different countries, I pull

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Speaker 2: from different cultures. In Brazil and the favelas and in

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Speaker 2: Soul Korea, all of the different types of cuisine I

585
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Speaker 2: just pulled from everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Where's your favorite place you've been lately aside from this studio.

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Speaker 2: Only, I must say like, you're great being. I love

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Speaker 2: spending time with you. Ed. I think Rio dejian Eio Basil. Oh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: the moll Brazil has this energy about it. Granted I

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Speaker 2: haven't been there in two years, but I love the

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Speaker 2: energy there. I also love Budapest. I think it's really special.

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Speaker 2: And I would say those are my top two.

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Speaker 1: You said before that you like to provide your clients

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Speaker 1: when they come in for a class, the ability to

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Speaker 1: stop using their thinking mind. Yes, what else do you

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Speaker 1: want to give them when they come in to see you?

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Speaker 2: I want them to realize that they have all the

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Speaker 2: answers and the power within themselves, and to stop seeking

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Speaker 2: outside themselves for the answers or the solutions, that it's

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Speaker 2: within them. And lastly, I want to give them the

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Speaker 2: power of trusting their intuition. I think so often our

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Speaker 2: rational brains talk us out of things. We feel like

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Speaker 2: the mom who thinks that their child is smoking cigarettes

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Speaker 2: and she's like, oh, my child would never do that.

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Speaker 2: My child would never do that. My child like the

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Speaker 2: avoidance of what they feel. So the intuition of knowing

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Speaker 2: that you know that you know what you want, that

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Speaker 2: you know what's going to happen, and to continue taking actions.

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Speaker 1: We're all constantly you know, a work in progress, so

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Speaker 1: to speak. What's something that you are consciously working on

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Speaker 1: right now?

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Speaker 2: Who I'm working on a lot of things. One is relaxation.

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Speaker 2: The more I relax, the more I know what I need.

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Speaker 2: I'm working on asking for what I want and ask

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Speaker 2: for what I need. I'm working on giving direction to

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Speaker 2: my team and telling them what needs to happen. I'm

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Speaker 2: working on slowing down. I'm working on growing my business

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Speaker 2: in a way that feels comfortable to me, not just

619
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Speaker 2: thinking what growing a business is supposed to be about.

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Speaker 2: I'm working on choosing to spend my time with people

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Speaker 2: that make me feel good and not just because it's

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Speaker 2: been like this for years.

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Speaker 1: I love that it's important. It's so important, it's so important,

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Speaker 1: and it's this idea. Like I said to someone the

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Speaker 1: other day, I'm working on spending my time with people

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Speaker 1: that feel more like a faucet and less like a drain.

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Speaker 1: I love that You're we're walking out of here like

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Speaker 1: better people, better people.

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Speaker 2: I just high vibd uh. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So that's what you're working on. What are you working

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Speaker 1: on professionally? What's next for you guys? What's sex for Professionally?

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Speaker 2: I'm working on opening my first studio, which involves many

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Speaker 2: skills and leadership tach qualities that I guess the universe

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Speaker 2: is calling upon me because I've never opened a studio

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Speaker 2: before my own. I've opened different Madonna's studios at Hard

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Speaker 2: Candy Fitness, but taking the responsibility of that professionally, quick pause,

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Speaker 2: what's hard? Talk to them about what Hard Candy Fitness is.

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Speaker 2: Hard Candy Fitness was a global brand in fitness that

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Speaker 2: comprised of Madonna's workouts that I created with her, and

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Speaker 2: they opened up eight global gyms in countries like Chile,

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Speaker 2: in Berlin, in Sydney, Australia, in Mexico, and my role

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Speaker 2: there was creative director of the program and also to

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Speaker 2: train the trainers in each of these countries that also

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Speaker 2: did not speak English in the method that I created

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Speaker 2: with Madonna.

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Speaker 1: So, now opening this new studio and obviously having taught

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Speaker 1: your method for the last few years, you've actually certified

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Speaker 1: a lot of people to teach what you teach.

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Speaker 2: Is that correct? Yeah? Not a lot? Actually only five.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's less than I thought. Yeah, so I have

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Speaker 2: scaled my business. The teachers that are officially certified or

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Speaker 2: spent a lot of hours watching my ten years of

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Speaker 2: videos and manuals and studying and it's like a two

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Speaker 2: year kind of process. Wow, and then they're like officially

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Speaker 2: a trainer. But because I have so many followers and

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Speaker 2: fans around the world from the Madonna brand, there were

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Speaker 2: trainers in these countries that wanted to teach. So they're

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Speaker 2: not doing privates like they're not training my private celebrity

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Speaker 2: clients under me, but they are teaching the dance program

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Speaker 2: by a certification primarily like Zoomba. It does exist.

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Speaker 1: So I have two follow up questions. The first one

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Speaker 1: is this studio that you're opening, where is it.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be downtown in New York City. Awesome

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Speaker 2: to hear.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the second question, and you mentioned social media. So

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Speaker 1: how has I mean, you've been doing this for so

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Speaker 1: long now, how has your business changed since social media

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Speaker 1: has become such a force.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I mean social media has taught me that nothing

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Speaker 2: stays the same and the world is in constant expansion,

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Speaker 2: and also that I need support on my team to

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Speaker 2: keep up with the expansion word because I'm slowing down.

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Speaker 2: But it's taught me that when I started out in

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Speaker 2: this business in two thousand and nine, like there was

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Speaker 2: no social media. So all of the things I was

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Speaker 2: doing were in a connection with Madonna, with Stella McCartney

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Speaker 2: in a private room that no one really knew about.

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Speaker 2: And how people would receive this information us through press,

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Speaker 2: through stories and press. Now with social media, there's an

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Speaker 2: ability for people to communicate more to being connection more

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Speaker 2: with me. I'm trying to move away from technology, so personally,

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Speaker 2: it's been something that my business is struggling with because

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Speaker 2: it's part of my business. So I doubled. Yeah, because

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Speaker 2: I'm stopping. I don't really use my phone, So it's

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Speaker 2: been I'm still in it, I'm still learning from it,

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Speaker 2: and I'm do you think about just having someone else

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Speaker 2: do that for you. Yeah, I actually am thinking about

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Speaker 2: hiring someone full time to help me whose genius work

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Speaker 2: is social media. There are many of them. There are

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Speaker 2: many of them.

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Speaker 1: You also mentioned something that I think is interesting about

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Speaker 1: how things are different from being a trainer to being

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Speaker 1: a trainer who opens a business. And I was having

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Speaker 1: a call with the one and only Gunnard Peterson.

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Speaker 2: I know you know him well.

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Speaker 1: We were talking on the phone and he told me

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Speaker 1: that a big misconception is people that are trainers think

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna I'm just gonna go out on my own.

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Speaker 1: But he's like, are you thinking about not only just

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Speaker 1: the rent, that you're gonna need, towels, that you're gonna need, parking,

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Speaker 1: that you're gonna need all of these things that go

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Speaker 1: into sustaining having your own place. And he says, that's,

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Speaker 1: you know, a big struggle for people. What would you say,

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Speaker 1: looking back on that time when you were a little

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Speaker 1: lost before that conservatory is one huge piece of advice

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Speaker 1: now looking back on it, that you would have given

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Speaker 1: yourself then, oh.

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Speaker 2: My god, to welcome the lostness. I think so often

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Speaker 2: people are like, you are what you're saying, don't say

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Speaker 2: that you're lost, because then you will be lost. Don't

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Speaker 2: say you're disorganizers and you're gonna be disorganized. What's the saying.

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Speaker 2: It's whether you think you can or you can't. You

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Speaker 2: can't You're right, yes, And I was lost at the time,

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Speaker 2: And I think that because I welcomed it and admitted

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Speaker 2: to myself that I was, then I was able to

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Speaker 2: move from that. But I think so often people don't

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Speaker 2: admit the truth. So I think a good piece of

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Speaker 2: advice is to get really honest with yourself and admitting

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Speaker 2: to yourself, like are you happy? Is this making you happy?

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Speaker 2: Do you need a change? What do you really want

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Speaker 2: to do? What brings you ultimate joy? Because ninety nine

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Speaker 2: times out of ten it has to either do with singing, music, drawing, dancing,

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Speaker 2: doing something more joyous that's like in our creative spirit.

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Speaker 2: And I think that the advice I would give is like,

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Speaker 2: ask yourself are you happy? Like are you truly happy?

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Speaker 1: I think that's a really great note to end on. Actually, Nicole,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming to Bay with me.

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Speaker 1: This is amazing. Please take a moment to leave a

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Speaker 1: quick review by clicking the link with the description to

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Speaker 1: this episode. We all face multiple hurdles in life. I

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Speaker 1: want to hear about yours. Reach out to me at

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Speaker 1: Emily at hurdle dot us. Connect with the podcast on

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Speaker 1: Instagram and Twitter at Hurdle podcast Nicle.

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Speaker 2: Where do they find you? What's the DS? I just

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Speaker 2: wanted to compliment to you on how amazing you are

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Speaker 2: at your job, Like this woman right here sitting next

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Speaker 2: to me is so on it. I can't even begin

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Speaker 2: to explain her on points. You're sweet. So you can

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Speaker 2: find me Nicolewinhoffer at Nicolewenhoffer on Instagram, Nicolewinhoffer dot com

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Speaker 2: on my website where you can find videos and private

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Speaker 2: training and classes with me. I'm so happy we did this.

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Speaker 1: I am thank you at Emily Abodi on Instagram.

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Speaker 2: Another hurdle conquered. Catch you guys next time