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Speaker 1: game as soon as it's over. It was a great

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Speaker 1: day for college football today. Every game was closed, Oh

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Speaker 1: Miss LSU was decided by less than a touchdown. Alabama,

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Speaker 1: All the games that we were expecting to be close

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Speaker 1: two overtimes and again, as usual, Penn State will find

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Speaker 1: a way to lose a game, and you want James

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Speaker 1: The number seven we're gonna start with this game, guys.

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Speaker 1: The number seventeen Alabama Crimson Tide upsets number five Georgia

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Speaker 1: in Athens between the hedges. Crimson Tide have now won

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Speaker 1: three straight over the Bulldogs, ten of the last eleven.

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Speaker 1: Hindsight twenty twenty do you agree with Kirby Smart not

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Speaker 1: Going forward on fourth and one at the ten yard

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Speaker 1: never got back in positioned again. Drop the touchdown? Guy

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Speaker 1: ball game. What do you think, Johnny? What's your uh?

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Speaker 1: Kirby Smart had done given that situation.

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Speaker 4: It's out of their character to rush to go hurry up.

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Speaker 4: That's not what they do. The play was close on

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Speaker 4: Go hurry up? You don't do that. That's not your

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Speaker 4: So to me, I'm furious. I'm sitting there before the game,

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Speaker 4: I'm like, who do I like in this game? Georgia

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Speaker 4: Alabama has shown me nothing?

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Speaker 4: Second half they're down. I'll take them at plus seven

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Ay and Johnny, I think, especially from from a

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Speaker 2: You want you want to.

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Speaker 6: Do everything you can, you know, to believe in your

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Speaker 6: of advantage. If anything, I would have got the points.

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Speaker 6: You take the points in the situation.

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Speaker 4: On the play sheet during the week, during your practice,

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Speaker 4: you got a section there that says third and fourth

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Speaker 5: You got plays that you like in there. You know,

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Speaker 4: Maybe a roll out the flat ask if you're gonna

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Speaker 4: do something, but you don't speed up your offense and

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Speaker 1: Completely speed up to run, to run, run the ball

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Speaker 4: Man, my dog did give him a little stiff arm

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Speaker 4: and kind of tried to make something shake. He tried,

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Speaker 4: He gave everything he got. But where's our five star

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Speaker 4: running back? Why you hurry up the duds in there?

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Speaker 5: The block? And it's not his fault. This is coaching.

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Speaker 1: You got a guy who ran the ball twelve times

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Speaker 1: for one hundred and nineteen yards and a touchdown. You

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Speaker 1: gonna do. We're gonna be smart. You know what we're

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Speaker 1: that's when you try to like want to pretend how

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Speaker 1: what made you decide to go hurry up in that situation?

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Speaker 1: Now they're asking the same thing, guys in the in

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Speaker 2: If you why not call the time out? You ever

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Speaker 2: had the lead? Why not take the car? Get it?

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Speaker 5: Why not?

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Speaker 1: Why not your five start running back? There are a

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Speaker 1: million things you could have done.

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Speaker 2: You took them.

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Speaker 1: You took the million than one, so a million things

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Speaker 1: that we could have done. O Joe, let's take the

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Speaker 1: one thing we shouldn't do.

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Speaker 1: And you wonder why Alabama has lost more than they won.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, Georgia has lost more to Alabama than they've won.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of times they've had the better of

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Speaker 1: several times in the SEC Championships. One time they have

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Speaker 1: Mark Rick. I don't know why they throw the ball

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Speaker 2: If there's less than ten seconds on the clock.

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Speaker 1: We see them lose when they got this superior team,

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Speaker 1: they got all this talent. Now, they did turn around

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Speaker 1: and beat Alabama in the National Championship game, but Jamison

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Speaker 1: Williams blew out his knee in that game. Metchi had

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Speaker 1: But a lot of times this has been un inexcusable

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Speaker 1: for Georgia to lose as many times as they lost

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Speaker 2: And it really doesn't matter where they are.

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Speaker 1: It could be in Tuscaloosa, it can be between the

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Speaker 2: Don't It does not matter. I just don't understand that.

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Speaker 5: This drop is inexcusable on the d ball.

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Speaker 4: That is an unbelievable, dialed up in the dirt play,

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Speaker 4: unbelievable throw. It's picture perfect all the way down to

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Speaker 5: Football well Yeah, he took his eyes.

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Speaker 1: What do you think Williams would, right, Willives Ryan Williams

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Speaker 2: Just just.

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Speaker 1: He's struggling this year. He's struggling this year. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: dropped a lot. He's dropped a lot of plays. Remember

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Speaker 1: Florida State, how many he dropped Ocho, Yes, sir, he

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Speaker 1: dropped a touchdown against Wisconsin. I don't know, maybe the

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Speaker 1: lack of concentration. But he's not He doesn't look like

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Speaker 1: the guy that we saw the first seven eight games

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Speaker 1: last year.

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Speaker 5: This year, yeah, oh, Joe, I got a question for

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Speaker 4: You guys go into games, you go through spells as

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Speaker 5: You maybe have some drops you're not seeing. What is

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Speaker 5: what is the process for you guys?

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Speaker 4: I see guys go out to practice drug machine wake.

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Speaker 5: Out there, Yes, get your field, get your flow back.

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Speaker 4: But for you guys, I want to hear, I'm curious

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and for me when I got the yips like that,

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Speaker 6: especially in the game where I dropped two maybe three balls,

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Speaker 6: it doesn't matter how much jug Machine I do. Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,

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Speaker 6: it's nothing like in game. In games that you I

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Speaker 6: need to touch the ball. I need to feel the

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Speaker 6: ball early in the game. And my coaches already know

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Speaker 6: that ahead of time. Don't give me a route, don't

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Speaker 6: give me a slant or a curl. Throw me a

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Speaker 6: smoke screen, throw me a bubble, throw me something quick

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Speaker 6: so I can get my confidence back. Once your confidence

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Speaker 6: is shot after dropping two or three balls, it sticks

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Speaker 6: with you, Johnny, it sticks with you, UNKI, you know

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Speaker 6: how that feeling is. Just let me touch it real quick,

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Speaker 2: In back.

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Speaker 1: For me, I wanted the passes that I dropped, I

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Speaker 1: have the court and catch it on the jugs. I'm

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Speaker 1: the motion or I'm gonna have the quarterback to throw

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Speaker 1: No, I wasn't going no struggling this game, struggling that

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Speaker 2: So I just think the thing is, Ojo.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know right now if I'm picking anybody over

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Speaker 4: Much that that's good throat some times? Third down thirty nine,

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Speaker 4: So when you see stuff like that, is it consistent enough?

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Speaker 4: That's why you're making that face? Is it consistent enough?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 6: Not?

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Speaker 5: That's but you grow as the season goes on. You

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Speaker 2: Look, they got their work cut out for them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Vanderbilt, this is not your father's and grandfather's Vanderbilt.

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Speaker 5: I went to dinner with Diego Pavia the night they hungry.

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Speaker 4: Guess what I'm going to tuscle loose Alabama on Saturday

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because Alabama.

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Speaker 2: Alabama said, we owe y'all after what y'all did does

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Speaker 5: Big on is what the boys are saying.

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Speaker 1: Uh so, Georgia, Alabama's uh slate Vanderbilt, Missouri and Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: You remember Tennessee beat them last year. If Vanderbilt beat

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Speaker 2: Although they were playing well at the end. That ended

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Speaker 1: Out of the college football playoff as they extended, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, guys, I don't know. Let me know

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Speaker 1: what you think, Johnny Man that Kaitlyn the board lost

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Speaker 1: this game. Boy, they already calling for his head. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're already calling for his head. Game like this some time,

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Speaker 1: I believe buying some time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, two weeks ago, we ago, using lottery money.

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Speaker 2: Alabama has two point six billion. Huh. Florida, Florida. That's

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Speaker 1: And what's the guy's name, Billy Napier buying him out

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Speaker 2: A and M did with Jimbo Jimbo.

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Speaker 1: You see the difference, twenty point four billion in endowment

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no. Texas money is different, different Florida money.

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Speaker 5: You gotta look under the couch, cushes and shit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But hey, hey, joe a think about it.

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Speaker 2: They gave that man eighty billion. They say, you know

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Speaker 1: We'd give you eighty two to go away and you

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Speaker 2: You still get to keep the eighty two. Yeah, Like,

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Speaker 1: A lot of times, a lot of like NFL, what

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Speaker 1: they'll do. They'll like, if you get another job, or

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Speaker 1: Jason and Mson, No, we don't even care.

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Speaker 5: Jim Offisher wake up every day and look out on

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a nice questions from Maggie department.

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Speaker 5: But we'll get there one day somehow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The number six Oregon Ducks goes in to Beaver Stadium,

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Speaker 1: James Franklin coaching in the twelfth season at Penn State

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Speaker 2: Now? Is that now?

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Speaker 1: All I know is when I grew up, grew up,

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Speaker 1: Penn State was a big thing.

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Speaker 2: They they Joe Pop rested soul. They won.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and more time than not, he won games like that.

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Speaker 1: Go back and look at that eighty seven National championship

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Speaker 2: I'm just shocked that it.

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Speaker 1: Somehow he will find a way to lose to Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: He'll find a way somehow, Johnny to lose a game,

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Speaker 1: You're like, Okay, they're at home, they're gonna win this way. Oh,

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I mean they were. They were close all games, Johnny

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Speaker 2: As to we're all the stars.

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Speaker 6: There's always every every team always, especially like Penn State

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Speaker 6: And nobody stood out to me. So at that point,

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Speaker 6: it all comes down to the coaching. It all comes

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Speaker 2: I think I think impressed that quarter.

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Speaker 4: Look exactly, you look at number one five, one seven,

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Speaker 4: You got their leading receiver four catches forty eight yards.

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Speaker 5: Enough on that side of the ball that ain't going

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Speaker 4: It really isn't We're talking about fifteen being a guy.

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Speaker 4: Can he go to the league? Is he the best

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Speaker 4: You don't want to step up and be that guy

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Speaker 4: in that situation? Man, one, ain't it? You're supposed to

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Speaker 5: A whole game and double overtime, thank you?

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Speaker 1: So you get extra possessions and overtime that you played

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Speaker 2: So you're at.

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Speaker 1: Home against Oregon and I'm supposed to believe that you're

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think I'll do.

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Speaker 4: Here's what I'm thinking about it as well, though, Let's

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Speaker 4: big situations four in twenty one, there's something going on

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Speaker 4: there where you get nervous, or you tighten up or

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Speaker 4: get a little what whatever it is? Bourn twenty one

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Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, you can look

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Speaker 4: at this as we played the number six team in

442
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Speaker 4: the country really tough, and if we see him again,

443
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 4: come on, it's all about perspective. And I didn't have

444
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,440
Speaker 4: handled this loss.

445
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Speaker 2: But here's the thing you had agreed. See, I didn't think.

446
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 1: I didn't think Orgon was gonna beat Ohio State. They

447
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 1: lost on a two one conversion of Ohio State at Oregon.

448
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 1: What the hell you think were you? That was gonna

449
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Speaker 1: happen if you meet on a neutral site.

450
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Speaker 2: What happened? Yeah, the doors blowed off.

451
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Speaker 1: If Oregon meet Penn State on the neutral site again,

452
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Speaker 1: if that's fortunate enough to happen, doors blown off because

453
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Speaker 1: they still got Penn State.

454
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Speaker 2: I'm excuse me.

455
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 1: They still got Ohio State, they still got Michigan on schedule.

456
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Speaker 2: So are we sure they already got one loss early

457
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Speaker 2: in the season? Are we sure?

458
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Speaker 1: Are we sure Penn State when it's all saying that

459
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be there, Johnny.

460
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Speaker 4: You look next week, you say l a bo bo

461
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Speaker 4: Northwestern b Iowa.

462
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 5: Easy, Okay, maybe I'll give you.

463
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Speaker 1: Oh they lose when they're gonna lose one of them, Johnny,

464
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Speaker 1: that's Penn State, that jant.

465
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Speaker 2: Frankly, you're gonna lose one of them.

466
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Speaker 4: And for me, I ain't as confident as you sound

467
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Speaker 4: in Ohio State's quarterback play. They're good as a team.

468
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 4: As a unit, you rely on your d you got

469
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Speaker 4: the receivers, you got the pieces.

470
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Speaker 5: I ain't. I ain't as uh.

471
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Speaker 4: I ain't as confident in them as uh as most

472
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Speaker 4: people are. And then look you got Indiana, Michigan State, Nebraska, Rutgers, Nebraska.

473
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Speaker 5: I mean, what do they play Nebraska at home?

474
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, they probably went down.

475
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 5: So I mean, you go through it.

476
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Speaker 4: You have a loss of Ohio State, you run the

477
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Speaker 4: rest of the table, you have two losses, and you're

478
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Speaker 4: Penn State.

479
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Speaker 5: You're at three right now, you end up in the

480
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Speaker 5: top twelve, for sure, for sure, you.

481
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Speaker 2: Might be right.

482
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Speaker 1: The question is what does what does Ohio State look

483
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Speaker 1: like when it's all said and done? How many losses

484
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Speaker 1: does Oregon have when it's all said and done.

485
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Speaker 2: I don't believe.

486
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Speaker 1: Let's just say, for the sake of argument Oregon runs

487
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Speaker 1: the table. Uh does Oregon play Ohio State in the

488
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Speaker 1: regular season or they can only playing the championship game.

489
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 1: They're getting ready to do away with champion game. Okay,

490
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Speaker 1: let's just say everybody is undefeated. I don't believe they take.

491
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Speaker 5: Illinois.

492
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Speaker 2: Whoa Illinois not a cake wall. Okay, that's gonna be

493
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Speaker 2: a good game.

494
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Speaker 5: Give you that. That's a good game.

495
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Speaker 4: Minnesota, Wisconsin, penn State, Purdue, U C l A, Rutgers, Michigan.

496
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Speaker 5: The end the season, they don't lose more than two,

497
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Speaker 5: they're in.

498
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Speaker 1: True right, that game, that Michigan game is gonna be tough.

499
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Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, Michigan, Michigan, I don't

500
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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. They find a way to play the

501
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Speaker 1: scratch claw and dig out a win against Ohio State.

502
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: No matter how talented Ohio State is, Michigan somehow finds

503
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Speaker 1: a way to win.

504
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Speaker 5: When that's it's been there. We see it every year.

505
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 5: It happens.

506
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm just surprised that Jane Franklin, think about

507
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: all the time, Johnny and Ojo that we've seen mission

508
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: Pennon State have a superior.

509
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Speaker 2: Team, only took lose Drew Aller.

510
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: Look, he might turn out to be one of the

511
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Speaker 1: greatest Penn State quarterback in the NFL, and that ain't

512
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 1: saying much because Fenn State, they had a whole lot

513
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Speaker 1: of great quarterbacks in the NFL. You go back to

514
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: Chuck Pasona, and you go back to Todd black Leg

515
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 1: and a Carry Collins, no difference. Carry Collins might be

516
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Speaker 1: the best, but he does not impress me. As my

517
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: grandmother used to say, he doesn't ras my berry. I

518
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: get I get nothing. I get nothing, I get nothing.

519
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,719
Speaker 1: I get nothing out of that. I really don't. I'm

520
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 1: looking at him, BROB like, bro what are we doing?

521
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 1: And people have him rated really high? Johnny, am I

522
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 1: missing something?

523
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Speaker 6: I mean that when it comes to the quarterback position,

524
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Speaker 6: the quarterbacks are rated when there's not much else out there.

525
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 4: We've been talking about the quarterback play, even our boy Castlelanas,

526
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 4: who we were so hype about last week.

527
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Speaker 5: I put some money on Florida State on Friday night.

528
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 5: That ain't at I was tough. They're sick.

529
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Speaker 6: At the drawing board, yeah they I think Florida State

530
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Speaker 6: might have been feeling themselves a little too much.

531
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Speaker 1: But you see what happens. What happened on Joe when

532
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 1: expectations come. You see, when they played Atlabama, they didn't

533
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: have no expectations, right nobody. Now all of a sudden,

534
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: they're undefeated there on the road, and now you have

535
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: some expectations. Could Florida State make the you know, the

536
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: college football playoffs? Now you start to have expectations. No

537
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 1: one had expectations from Florida State until they did what

538
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Speaker 1: they did to Alabama, and they now all of a sudden,

539
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 1: damn to that, right man. Look, I don't get it,

540
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: Like I said, Penn State four and twenty one twenty

541
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 1: with Penn State is four and twenty one against top

542
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: ten opponents.

543
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 2: And it's not like they haven't been ranked in the

544
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Speaker 2: top ten. Their damn cell.

545
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: So it's not like all of a sudden that that's

546
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: a top ten opponent and we're unranked or we're in

547
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: you know, we're twenty, we're twenty five.

548
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: Penn State a lot of time is ranked in the

549
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 2: top ten. Of them, damn their damn cell.

550
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: Look, maybe they're afraid they can't fight anybody else in

551
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 1: Jane Franklin, but I'm not so sure that he would

552
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 1: have been able to be at any other institution, this loan,

553
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: with the pedigree that an institution has as long as

554
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: Penn State. I'm shocked. I am absolutely shocked that he's

555
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: been able to be there this loan. You're not gonna

556
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: be at Alabama, You're not gonna be at Georgia, You're

557
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 1: not gonna be at any of the Ohio State with that,

558
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: No sir, no way, no way. Know how four and

559
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 1: twenty one and you lose it the Ohio State, damn

560
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,040
Speaker 1: every basically every year. How many times to be the

561
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: Ohio State since he's been there once.

562
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 2: I think you get it.

563
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 6: You get a little bit, a little bit more leency

564
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 6: with understanding that you are playing in superior school, you

565
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 6: get you get a little bit if you can soap

566
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 6: somehow get a win.

567
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 2: Yes, you understand that Ohio State has the better players.

568
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 2: Here's a thing.

569
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 5: You get into the playoffs. They get into the playoffs

570
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 5: and go look good and be competitive with it.

571
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 4: That's the thing they keep getting wiggling their way in

572
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 4: just good enough, bare minimum type stuff. So when you

573
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 4: do that and you look back at the season as

574
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 4: somebody who's overseeing that whole program, you're like, you know what,

575
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 4: you don't forget about that loss or at Ohio State,

576
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 4: you don't forget about you forget about that.

577
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 5: Like, oh we went to the playoff.

578
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 4: Damn.

579
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 5: A couple of players go here, our way, here and

580
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 5: there like we're good. You look at that perspective, but

581
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 5: in reality, when you lay it out, you lay it

582
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 5: for what it is. If you're a top program.

583
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh how many times? I think the biggest thing

584
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: is this is where you measure a coach. How many

585
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: times does he win a game he's not supposed to win?

586
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: See you look at Nick Saban and all the times

587
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: he beat Georgia when he wasn't supposed to, or he

588
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: beat in LSU when he wasn't supposed to.

589
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 2: Or he beat no or he beat these teams.

590
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: How many times will we going to a game and

591
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: we say, man, Penn State ain't got no chance of

592
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: winning this game, and.

593
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 2: They win it. They do. Why don't you If it's

594
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 2: a fifty to fifty ball game, they lose.

595
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: So if we're looking at it and we're saying, okay,

596
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: this is a game, I want to see somebody with

597
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: Coach Belichick. Coach Belichick, a lot of times he's winning

598
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: games like he wasn't supposed to beat the Greatest Show Turf.

599
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: He wasn't supposed to beat the Legion the Boom. He

600
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: was not supposed to go on the road, and and

601
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: and and beat Patrick Mahomes. You have to win in

602
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: order to put to get the credit that you deserve.

603
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to win games.

604
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 5: You know, Atlanta, That's how you became Johnny.

605
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: If you go to Alabama. If you go into Alabama

606
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: and you lose, you're not Johnny Football.

607
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 2: You got it.

608
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: You won a game that you weren't supposed to win.

609
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: Nobody gave you a chance, y'all was what two three?

610
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 2: But Uncle Johnny.

611
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 6: The funny thing about it is, obviously sometimes coach is

612
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 6: supposed to win games that they shouldn't win. You get

613
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 6: the recognition, but it's hard to win games. You don't

614
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 6: have the personnel. It's hard if they take you the

615
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 6: baker cake, but you ain't got no goddamn no, no mix.

616
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 2: You gotta understand what I'm saying, make something, make something palatable.

617
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? But I get I'll jo

618
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,959
Speaker 2: you're right, But that's the main it is winning.

619
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: Let me ask your question, who had the most talent

620
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: the Greatest show on turf coach Belichick's Patriots. Yes, a

621
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: game you're not supposed to win, your undermantter, what there

622
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: ain't no excuses Giants versus the Patriots. One team is

623
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: eighteen and oh one team got some argue. The greatest

624
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: receiver ever, the greatest quarterback ever, the greatest head coach ever.

625
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 2: Yeah tu the Yeah?

626
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: So sometimes you win games when you're undermand that's oh joe,

627
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: If all I do is win when I got the best.

628
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 2: Team, how good a damn coach? Ever? Yeah? Right, Jaye Franklin.

629
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: At some point in times, you're gonna have to win,

630
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: to win games that nobody doesn't expect you. And now

631
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: you're at home, you're the number three ceeds. People were

632
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: expecting you to beat the organ because you're the high

633
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: ranked team, and you home and somehow you find more

634
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: more times than not. It so based on this, in

635
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: twenty five games against the top ten opponent, more times

636
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: than not, triple the times, quadruple the times he found

637
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: ways to win lose as opposed to winning.

638
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 2: And that's a problem. That is a problem.

639
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: As we got number nine Texas A and M Johnny's Albamada.

640
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: Number nine Texas A and M holds off the Auburn Tigers.

641
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: I don't know how you get two names. You get

642
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: a war Eagle and your Tiger. But anyway, improved to

643
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: four and oh since the first time since twenty sixteen.

644
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 2: Auburn finished the game.

645
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: All of thirteen on third down conversion and had just

646
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy seven total yards against A and M.

647
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 2: A and M had four hundred and fourteen.

648
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: Marcel Reid not turned the ball over against Texas, alling

649
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: them had had committed thirteen penalties, the final score would

650
00:32:58,440 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: have been a lot worse.

651
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 2: Johnny, that's your team. What'd you like about what you

652
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 2: saw from listen?

653
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 5: I talked to him every night after the games.

654
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 4: And as you're going into games like this, and you're

655
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 4: getting into SEC play and you're playing a good team

656
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 4: like Auburn, you have to find ways throughout the season

657
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 4: to go out and get a win, whether it's pretty,

658
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 4: whether it's ugly, whether you have some penalties.

659
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 5: But look at it as a whole.

660
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 4: Fifteen to twenty two at seven incompletions, doesn't throw a

661
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 4: Tuddy two hundred and seven yards passing, and for him,

662
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 4: he rushed for minus twenty three yards for a guy

663
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 4: who uses his legs.

664
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 5: That's an off night for him.

665
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

666
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 4: Look, Le'Veon Moss twenty one carries one hundred and thirty nine.

667
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 4: I've talked to him every week. What I've told him

668
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 4: is listen, as good as that feels, ass much as

669
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 4: you want to go out and celebrate, learn for me, man,

670
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 4: learn from me, and buckle down.

671
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 5: We were in a place that we ain't been in

672
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 5: in ten years, nine years.

673
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, grind it.

674
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 4: Go back this week, go harder, take this, run with

675
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 4: it and go get better. Use the film, use the stuff,

676
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 4: go to practice, take everything you can. The party gonna

677
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 4: be there, and the party gonna be better whenever you

678
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 4: get to the SEC championship game, whenever you keep winning,

679
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 4: whenever you keep stacking good days, good weeks. So I'm

680
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 4: in his ear every week in the most positive of ways.

681
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 4: We're going to enjoy this for a couple of seconds

682
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 4: right now because it feels good, and you should enjoy

683
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 4: it because it is a good team win. But at

684
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 4: the end of the day, everybody in the country is

685
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 4: waiting on A and M to be A and M

686
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 4: of the past. The way you stick out and be

687
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 4: legendary is to go and do what hasn't been done.

688
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 4: He wants to go be up there with me at Texas.

689
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 4: A and M.

690
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 5: Keep winning, keep doing your thing, keep being a leader.

691
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 4: That's how you get a stay, That's how you get

692
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,760
Speaker 4: a statue, that's how you get your name on the building.

693
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 5: That's what you want. So right now, so far, so good.

694
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 4: Everybody's waiting on the aggies to aggie and there's a

695
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 4: couple of people they can keep that in perspective and

696
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 4: keep it rolling.

697
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 2: Look A and M. Defense was coming.

698
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: I mean, twenty four rushes fifty two yards eighteen of

699
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: thirty three, you had thirty three pass attempts and you

700
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: only had one hundred and twenty five yards less. That's

701
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: Suppo're supposed to have one hundred twenty five yard passes

702
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: and three drives.

703
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 6: Them boys playing good defense, that real good defense. Most

704
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 6: of the time you think about college football too on Johnny.

705
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 6: Defense is the part where they really don't play very well.

706
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: It's hard because all these spread offenses and all this motion,

707
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: this zone read stuff.

708
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: If you see, if it's infiltrated.

709
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: The NFL, NFL sit their personnel down there to study Baylor,

710
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: to study these la to study these open offenses. You

711
00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: see a lot more of that now college offense into

712
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: the NFL as opposed to the NFL.

713
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 2: In college, ain't nobody dot in the eye. You find

714
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 2: very few backs.

715
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 1: Everyone basically the only team that really gets in the

716
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: eye if you got uh, Derrick Henry and Jonathan Taylor, Damn,

717
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: everybody else is on the offset because very few, very

718
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: few quarterbacks are under center. Now, Johnny, a lot of

719
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: these guys getting to college ojo and they have never

720
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: ever taken a snap under center the center. Yeah, some

721
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: guys get to the NFL and they ain't taking a

722
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: snap under center center. Yeah, the first time they take

723
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: a snap on the center that THEYMNT pro date look

724
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: at Johnny.

725
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 2: Johnny raised his head like, we have maybe.

726
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,399
Speaker 4: Six snaps in two years where we went under center.

727
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 4: I got to the NFL, I'm like, what the fuck

728
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 4: is this?

729
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 2: You feeling good about your aging? You think they can

730
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 2: make it all the way down to Georgia.

731
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 4: They have the pieces they need, they got if they can,

732
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 4: if they can come together as a band of brothers

733
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 4: and they can look at it and say, you.

734
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 5: Know this defense, we stout offense.

735
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 4: What we did versus Notre Dame, we can do versus

736
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 4: anybody in the country, but it takes a special unit.

737
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 4: Not ones buying into the hype, not ones getting lackadaisical,

738
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 4: not ones taking a week off in practice.

739
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 5: Like Yo, we play somebody that we should beat this week.

740
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 4: Somebody can come up and catch you, and that one

741
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 4: game changes your whole trajectory. So are the pieces there

742
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 4: for A and M Are they a contender without a doubt?

743
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 4: They played well enough against teams that are solid to

744
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 4: prove that. But it takes consistency and it takes them

745
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 4: coming every week with your lunch failed. You got to

746
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 4: come and bring in. That's just what it comes down to.

747
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 4: So if you want it, it's there. You got the

748
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 4: pieces now or whatever?

749
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: Sure, but they got the do you got do you

750
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: guys got Texas or Oklahoma on your schedule on the road.

751
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 4: There's no love laws between you. And last year was

752
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 4: a brutal one. Last year was tough in our own

753
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 4: house bringing the rivalry back. We ain't sniff a chance

754
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 4: to win that game last year.

755
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, y'all tried to block Texas from coming to the SEC.

756
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 2: What are we doing?

757
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 5: It was all good when we wanted to go, But

758
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 5: when they want to go where we had about it.

759
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 5: There's the thing, there's some things that go on at

760
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 5: A and M that you got to look at and

761
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 5: kind of be like, what are we doing?

762
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 2: But yeah, that just is what it is.

763
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 4: Everybody wants their cake and to eat it too, and

764
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 4: to keep them out of something that's been really great

765
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 4: for us. But like listen, if twenty twelve didn't go

766
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 4: the way that it went for us, our SEC trajectory

767
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,919
Speaker 4: could be way, way different. When we were coming into

768
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 4: the SEC, all we heard was you boys need to

769
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 4: get ready. You're gonna get smacked. This is different than

770
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 4: what you're used to. This ain't Iowa State, This ain't

771
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 4: Kansas State. Now, we set ourselves on a good path

772
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 4: with twenty twelve and twenty thirteen, but then there's a

773
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 4: big role there for eight nine years where we really

774
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 4: haven't had a lot of success out kind of nineteen

775
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 4: or twenty twenty. Kellen Monds last year and it was

776
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 4: the COVID year and we went to the Orange Bowl,

777
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 4: lost one game. We haven't really had a lot of success.

778
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 4: So for us, this team has the chance to do

779
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 4: what hasn't been done at Texas A and M in

780
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 4: a long time, and for us in the type of

781
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 4: program we are, if you're being honest, double digit wins

782
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 4: for us are something that are truly programmed changing. But

783
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 4: we're in the second year of ELKO. We go through

784
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 4: the buyout, we go through the jokes. We are the

785
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 4: butt of the joke for years. Oh you pay Jimbo this,

786
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 4: he has to go, you pay him off.

787
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 5: You have success.

788
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 4: In the second year at ELKO, you really start to

789
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 4: build on something where that money now makes it worth it.

790
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

791
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: When you paid Jimbo that kind of money, you got

792
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: to get to an SEC championship game, you got to

793
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: get into the college football player.

794
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 2: It's just the way life, wo Joe. And you know, Johnny,

795
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 2: you understand this.

796
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 1: You played there, know how devout and loyal that fan

797
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: base is, and you know how those big boosters are.

798
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: They gempted the well, they found some money in their

799
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: cushions to give Jimbo that that kind of money. I

800
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: ain't said the empty their pocket because they got deep pocket.

801
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: Their pockets go down to that. So yeah, they didn't

802
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 1: have to dig too deep to find that. And so

803
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: the expectations, like you said, you keep winning these games,

804
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 1: and like you said, okay, you win double digits. But

805
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: at some point in time they look over there and

806
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: it's like, nah, were in the Big Boy Conference.

807
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 5: We want to play thirteen years and you don't go

808
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 5: once unacceptable.

809
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 4: I couldn't get it done, can't get it done for

810
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,720
Speaker 4: the nine years after thirteen years in at a conference

811
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 4: and you don't sniff it.

812
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 5: Unacceptable.

813
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: So they're gonna have to They're gonna have to figure

814
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: this thing out. You believe they have the type of

815
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: team that can get there. It's I mean, this thing

816
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: is gonna really be tough. I mean, tax Us and

817
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: Oklahoma say they got something to say about it. Georgia

818
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: has an SEC law, but hey, they're like, hey, we

819
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: got something to say about it. Bama didn't have an

820
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: SEC loss yet, but they're they're probably they're probably six

821
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: to seventeen. Tennessee Van the built they're six and seventeen.

822
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: That says, you know what, we think we got a

823
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: realistic chance of being down in acad.

824
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 4: Schedule though next week Mississippi State, then we played Florida.

825
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 4: We've already harped on Florida enough where they don't deserve

826
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 4: no air of time. Arkansas okay, but they got the

827
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 4: doors blowed up there, all right, LSU late and end

828
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 4: of the ten twenty five, all right, that's gonna be

829
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 4: a good game.

830
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 2: Goole man Brian Kelly. You know Brian Kelly threw up

831
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 2: on him sel.

832
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 5: Okay, that's the one that sticks out.

833
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 4: Outside of that, then you got Missouri, and you got

834
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 4: South Carolina and you got Stamford, and then the end

835
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 4: of season you got you got Texas. So like four,

836
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 4: it looks as a schedule what the SEC could be right,

837
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 4: what your schedule could look like. I would say overall

838
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 4: that's pretty favorable. Yes, you have to go win some

839
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 4: good games against good teams.

840
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 5: That's gonna happen.

841
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 4: You're not playing in the Big Ten, you're not playing

842
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 4: in the Big twelve, you're not playing in the ACC.

843
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 5: Not Kat and Cake walks in conference.

844
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,959
Speaker 4: But if you look at who you can play versus

845
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 4: who you have on your schedule, I would say it

846
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:20,479
Speaker 4: lines up really nice.

847
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 2: Where you guys got the game cartoon? Are they coming

848
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,240
Speaker 2: to y'all? Are y'all going to them? Okay?

849
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 5: And they beat us last year in the game that

850
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 5: we felt like we should win and they beat us bad.

851
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that'd be that'd be a very interesting game.

852
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: Just we'll see what Johnny believes his team could be.

853
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna be on board. Lord have mercy.

854
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: I could just imagine, I could just imagine take all.

855
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:50,959
Speaker 5: Give the whole thing away.

856
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 4: But South Carolina weekend, those boys in that locker room,

857
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 4: from what I have coming in that game are going

858
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 4: to be more motivated than any team, any game in

859
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 4: the last fifteen years of text saying that I got

860
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 4: a real special freak coming for the Aggies November fifteen,

861
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 4: fire program changing for us in my.

862
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 2: Opinion, you got Drake coming in.

863
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 5: Huh If you're working on the album? What're on? All

864
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 5: many Bahamas work on the album?

865
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, okay, I'm just checking this checking guys.

866
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: Remember last week when Brian Kelly went on this rant

867
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: about reporters asking about his offense. Well, in the twenty

868
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 1: four to nineteen lost to Old Miss, the Tigers mustard

869
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 1: two of eleven on third downs and lack an effective

870
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: running game. They trudged sixty five yards on twenty one

871
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 1: non sack carries with a long of ten. Garrett nussmar

872
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: once again had a bare mediocre game against top competition.

873
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 1: Nussmier managed less than two hundred yards on thirty four

874
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: pass attempts six yards and average per throw. Well, you

875
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 1: know what a let's not ask Brian Kelly about this

876
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: run game because you won you so now can we

877
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: ask you about your run game now? Mister Kelly, Hey,

878
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: like you said, it was one game, okay, I would act,

879
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: but see, oho, what what's the what's the what's the model?

880
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 2: Ohoe? We never accept anything in a win.

881
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 5: Loss.

882
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 2: We wasn't in a loss. So I'm to ask you now, yeah,

883
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 2: if this running game, is it acceptable?

884
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: Coach Kelly? Because you know you you were celebrating. You

885
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: wanted to celebrate we won the game. The guys asked

886
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: you to say we won the game. Guys, we won

887
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: the game. Okay, Now now that you didn't win the game,

888
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: do I have your undivided attention now, Coach Kelly, I'd

889
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: like to ask you about your running game because last

890
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: week you didn't want to talk about it, because you

891
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 1: want can we talk about it now?

892
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 2: What would you like to say about your running game?

893
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 5: What?

894
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 4: What?

895
00:44:58,320 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 5: What?

896
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 2: What? What's what's happening with your run game? Rank? Coach Kelly?

897
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 6: I want I wanted to do that report to ask

898
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 6: any questions after.

899
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: The game because I was like coach kelle I remember

900
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: last week, you know, you said you had won the

901
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: game and you didn't want to talk about it. You

902
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: want to talk about the win now that you didn't win,

903
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: can you ask you about your run game?

904
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 5: This game went over win Keffin's daughter and the LSU

905
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 5: dude when that came out, he said, but.

906
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 2: This game was was over, Johnny? What am I missing

907
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 2: about nus Mayer? What am I missing?

908
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 5: Listen?

909
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 4: There were times last year in games that I watched

910
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 4: with him where I came away really really impressed. I

911
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 4: don't see it a lot, but for whatever reason, this

912
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 4: year we are seeing regression from guys who played well

913
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 4: last year club Nick alar I Smier taking steps backwards.

914
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 5: And that's really really rare. Is the game goes on

915
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 5: in college football?

916
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 4: At least for me because I can only speak on

917
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 4: my perspective, the game got slow, came more detailed, It

918
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 4: came more guys being in positions. You see so much

919
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 4: of the same coverage. You don't see a ton of

920
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 4: Nickel dime package random blitz come in. You don't see

921
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 4: a lot of different fronts, and you see the same

922
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 4: base over under the same conditions, a lot of cover,

923
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 4: three teams to play quarters. So for guys who have

924
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 4: now played not some matter has played twenty games, these

925
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 4: guys have played enough games live bullets firing to where

926
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 4: you got to come out.

927
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 5: And this should be toying with people. So it is

928
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 5: weird and it is like really like something's going on

929
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 5: to where they're not getting coached in the right way.

930
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 4: Because I was fortunate to be coached by guys who

931
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 4: pushed me, who he learned the game to where things

932
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 4: felt slow for me and I the next year was better.

933
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 4: It kept getting better and better and easier and slower

934
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 4: to the point where you can do it with your

935
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 4: eyes closed type of thing. A lot of it comes

936
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 4: with confidence too. Sometimes you get a little rattle. But

937
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 4: what we're seeing right now, he's a better player than

938
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 4: what he's showing. And that's what I'm gonna leave you that.

939
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna dog on him. He's better than what

940
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 4: he's showing.

941
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: I think the thing is, if there's a chance, and

942
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: this would always tell guy Johnny, if there's a chance

943
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: for you to come out, gonna come out right, because.

944
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 2: The only thing, the only place you can go is down.

945
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 2: You can go down.

946
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: It goes back to I don't I know, you don't

947
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: probably remember this. Oh, Joe Georgia take out of safety.

948
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 2: His name was Ken. His name was Ken Swillings. He's

949
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 2: gonna be a top ten pick.

950
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 5: He came back.

951
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 1: He ended up getting drafted like the seventh round because

952
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: he went to a bowl game and he had to

953
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: cover and it didn't work out so well for him.

954
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 2: He got exposed. So that's my thing.

955
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: I tell guys, well, you know, no, bro, the only

956
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: thing you can do is get exposed, and deficiencies can

957
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: be exposed, and now all of a sudden boom, if

958
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 1: you can go out and be a first round pick.

959
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,240
Speaker 1: Man gone to get money, get close, go ahead because

960
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: now with the money that it is, youk you could

961
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 1: be a three hundred million dollars quarterback and you'll be

962
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: twenty five years twenty five years of age. You could

963
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 1: be a two hundred million dollar defensive player, especially lineman,

964
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: d line or line edge rusher at twenty five years

965
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: of age. Gone to get close, gone to get three.

966
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 5: You need only go to the playoffs one time out

967
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 5: of your first four years of year.

968
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 2: Deal.

969
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, So when I'm looking at when I look at

970
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,439
Speaker 1: when I look at the guys that you mentioned nus Meyer,

971
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: I look at Club Mickey, I look at Aler, I

972
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,720
Speaker 1: look at I'm like, and these are the three games

973
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: guys that everybody have had, like top quarterbacks. I'm like, well,

974
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: damn should do it? Probably thinking, man, I should have

975
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: stayed my ass in school, I could have came back.

976
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: I'd have definitely been a top ten pick with this class.

977
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

978
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean when I say literally, nobody stands.

979
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 2: Out, nobody, nobody.

980
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 5: Weak out like what you normally say, Nah, nothing like that.

981
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 2: I mean, none of the it's been a wild guy.

982
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 1: It's been a while that we could honestly turn the

983
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: TV on and say, you know what, I don't see

984
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: no quarterbacks to get excited about.

985
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 4: We wake up on Saturday and you're like, damn, I'm

986
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 4: excited to go watch right now, I have to watch

987
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 4: that game.

988
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 2: None.

989
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 1: None, Well, I mean I don't even know, Johnny, are

990
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: they even gonna give the Heisman out this year?

991
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 2: I mean, you you got the ward, so you would know.

992
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 2: Are they gonna give the Ward out this year?

993
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 4: They just go hold up of guys out there that

994
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 4: are floating doing enough, like Diego Pavia has a real chance.

995
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 5: He got a chance if he goes and continues to

996
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 5: play six.

997
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 4: Buddies today, five passing, one rushing, big games on the

998
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 4: schedule coming up for them. You play Tennessee, you play Alabama,

999
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 4: you're at Andy. You in the season, ten and one

1000
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 4: in the playoffs. You keep doing what you're doing. You

1001
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 4: play the way you play Arcel Reid. You guys run

1002
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 4: the table, go undefeed.

1003
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: H Come on, man, I'm looking at some of these guys.

1004
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:07,919
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn. I like, the committee is gonna be like, nah,

1005
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: we're good. We holding off onto it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1006
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:12,240
Speaker 1: we're gonna.

1007
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 5: Have a go. Yeah.

1008
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 6: I'm sitting there trying to think about that question you

1009
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 6: just asked. When it comes to college football, what team

1010
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 6: do you sit there? Even even a player. Most of

1011
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 6: the time, we've always gotten one player on one team

1012
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 6: that yeah the watch. I mean maybe Ohio State and

1013
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:34,240
Speaker 6: Jeremiah Smith.

1014
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 2: That may be the only one. You're the one that

1015
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 2: you get excited about.

1016
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you get frustrated when they don't throw

1017
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 1: him the damn ball, and then I turn the TV

1018
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 1: from him.

1019
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, because maybe I.

1020
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: Like maybe, and you know, I'll be thinking in my head, well,

1021
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: maybe I'm bringing the band. Look, maybe because I'm watching

1022
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: and he know I'm watching, and they will throwing the ball.

1023
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 2: So maybe.

1024
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 4: We need to give him a little more time. Maybe

1025
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,399
Speaker 4: they're a little rust Maybe it's one of them years

1026
00:50:58,440 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 4: where taking a little time.

1027
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: Johnny, you weren't like that when you after you won

1028
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: the houseman, you came back, You picked right back up.

1029
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: That's what guys do. Go back and look at the guy.

1030
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: Look at Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence. When Trevor Lawrence stepped

1031
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: on when he stepped on campus, Trevor Lawrence ended up

1032
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: taking the guy's job. When's the national championship, He's like,

1033
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 1: that guy's gonna be the number one pick, and I've

1034
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: been damn he played like he was gonna be the

1035
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: number one Jamos, Yes, Baker, Kyler, Mariota.

1036
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, man, what what what do we do?

1037
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 2: What are we doing here? Look?

1038
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:45,760
Speaker 1: And I understand maybe that that's unfair. It's not unfair

1039
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: to have these expectations when I'm just going by the

1040
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 1: projection and everybody, look at these guys. These guys can

1041
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: spend it. Bro I'm looking at these guys and I

1042
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: am unimpressed. I think all of I think of the

1043
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:02,240
Speaker 1: guys that we mentioned, leaves leaves a lot.

1044
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 2: To be desired. And it's not they got they got

1045
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 2: players around him.

1046
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: It's making It's not like the covers are bear and

1047
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: I understand it's this college football. These guys are eighteen, nineteen,

1048
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: twenty years of age. But I mean we should have expectations.

1049
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: I mean, and I'm and these are the top guys.

1050
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,399
Speaker 1: Allen was everybody, you know, he come back, You're gonna

1051
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,280
Speaker 1: improve upon what he did at Penn State. And Nut Smyer.

1052
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: I think his daddy was an offensive coordinator, wasn't he

1053
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: Johnny and the dad an offensive coordinator? And you know,

1054
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: and you so all the guys that were mentioned, and

1055
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, well damn, I'm just like I said, I

1056
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: haven't been really impressed with a whole lot of quarterbacks

1057
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: spinning the football this year. Yeah, maybe I need Maybe

1058
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: I need to go out. Maybe I just need to

1059
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: watch some random because.

1060
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 4: I didn't get access today to I've been talking with

1061
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 4: Jake Spavatol, who's the OC A Baylor. They're back right now.

1062
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,240
Speaker 4: He's playing at a very very high level. He texted

1063
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 4: me today. You know, we had another one of those

1064
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 4: days where our QB is playing high level football. And

1065
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 4: for the people who haven't tuned into a Baylor game,

1066
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,919
Speaker 4: and you probably haven't because they're not really ranked. Their

1067
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 4: offense and what he's doing at the quarterback position is

1068
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 4: something to go and watch. But he give me access to.

1069
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 5: Be able to go watch the All twenty four film

1070
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 5: and to be able to go.

1071
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 4: See all the version. So during the weeks now, I'm

1072
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 4: really gonna start looking and seeing some of these guys.

1073
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 5: I'm gonna come back with some.

1074
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 4: Good feedback on Saturday nights and some guys and be

1075
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:31,919
Speaker 4: able to have some stuff to be able to show.

1076
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 4: Because it's out there, you just gotta look hard enough

1077
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 4: to go find it. It's not the stuff you're gonna

1078
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 4: see on the highlights and this and this, and because

1079
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 4: it may be for different teams, But right now, especially

1080
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:45,879
Speaker 4: going into this next week, Diego Pavia has a chance

1081
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 4: to really go into Tuscaloosa and do something this weekn Really,

1082
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 4: this is the opportunity.

1083
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: I mean, Carson Beck, could Carson Beck, I mean the

1084
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: guy from Arizona State live it. He played really well

1085
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: at the tail end of last year, playing well right now,

1086
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: I mean we like him. I mean, I mean I

1087
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: might have to start watching him.

1088
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 5: I agree, he's fun to watch.

1089
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,760
Speaker 4: He's made some plays where I've seen five six highlights

1090
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,439
Speaker 4: clips this year, go back into last year a little

1091
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 4: bit where you're like, okay, white boy, let's see it. Uh.

1092
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,879
Speaker 1: The Division two transfer Trinidad Chamblis passed for three hundred

1093
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: and fourteen yards and a touchdown, his third straight game,

1094
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 1: his third straight three hundred yard game since taking over

1095
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: injured quarterback Austin Simmons. I mean, look, you can say

1096
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: what you want to say about Lane Kiffy that mo

1097
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: folk can call hick coach.

1098
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, man, that play that he called, wait which one?

1099
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 5: Which one?

1100
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 2: Which one? Which one? Oh for or to get that

1101
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 2: first down?

1102
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:49,879
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1103
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 2: Man? Hell, I still don't know where the guy came from.

1104
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 5: Hill.

1105
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: I think he came off the sideline. I said, how

1106
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: did this big dude gets so wide open and he

1107
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: got the first down? Nah, I ain't going no further.

1108
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 2: Let me go down here. Were good here, And I

1109
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 2: love laying because he shows emotion.

1110
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: I love coaching. You know, the the coaches they be

1111
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: having a little pas. Oh they're not excited that. That's

1112
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: what I do not laying like.

1113
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I like that, laying me into You gotta

1114
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,240
Speaker 4: look back in the days, even when he was at Alabama,

1115
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 4: And I love this because I would see it with

1116
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 4: Kyle Shannonhan at times.

1117
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 5: I'm seeing it with Kingsbury at times.

1118
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,240
Speaker 4: The elite A plus coaches when they haven't play dialed

1119
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 4: up against the coverage, they're no, they're going to get

1120
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 4: in situational football.

1121
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 5: And you'll see it Alabama. The ball snap and his

1122
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 5: hands go up and he already.

1123
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 4: Said, I'm already quarters got the basic We're gonna throw

1124
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 4: the post over the top. Safety's coming down, because that's

1125
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 4: what he does. He's greedy, going for the pick and

1126
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 4: launch it. All you gotta do is step back, close

1127
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 4: your eyes and throw it. So when you get coaches

1128
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 4: like that who know what they're gonna get because they

1129
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 4: sit there and grind enough, takee and have done it enough,

1130
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 4: it's in the depressive thing.

1131
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,479
Speaker 5: And guess what, you don't see it all across the land,

1132
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 5: but you see it with the good ones.

1133
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 2: Yep, and they know what they got. They got some

1134
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 2: good cooked up