1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to the Two Pros and a 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Cup of Joe Podcast with LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox, and 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: myself Brady Quinn. Make sure you catch us live weekdays 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: six to nine am Eastern or three am to six 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. You can find your 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: local station for the Two Pros and a Cup of 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: Joe Show over at Foxsports Radio dot com, or stream 8 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 9 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: Give this you're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 10 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 3: Oh what is going on? Welcome in here, Happy Thursday 11 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 3: to you. As we roll on through. We got some hoops, 12 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 3: we got some ball, we got season win totals, we 13 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 3: got chief stuff going on here. Ball doesn't end for us, Jeff, 14 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 3: we're junkies over here. We're gonna get to in a 15 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,639 Speaker 3: couple of seconds. This just cannot be the way an 16 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 3: entire league operates. Hey, Redfinn discovered most of us want 17 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 3: more connection with our neighbor neighbors. We just don't want 18 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 3: to make it awkward. Chances are they probably feel the same. 19 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 3: So go first, start small. That's all it takes to 20 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 3: be neighborly. Find your newest neighbors at Redfinn dot com. 21 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 3: All right, Jeff, so the NBA is back. Let's go 22 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 3: NBA back ten games tonight. Finally the NBA All Star 23 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 3: Break is over with and we get actual basketball games tonight. 24 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 3: I'm excited about it. We get the debut of Chris 25 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 3: tops Porzingis in a Warriors uniform, right, Celtics Warriors tonight. 26 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 3: No Steph Curry as a drawback, but you get your 27 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 3: first glimpse of Scorzingis in a Warriors uniform over there, 28 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 3: and that's one of ten games to pick from. So 29 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 3: I'm excited. I'm fired up, you, Jeff, fired up for 30 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 3: the NBA to b bag. You can be honest with 31 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 3: you and say, no, not at all, not whatsoever. 32 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 4: What I'm always hones with you. No, I don't care. 33 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 4: I've made this very clear for years. There is no 34 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 4: sport that has a bigger difference in play from the 35 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 4: regular season to the postseason. I watch every NBA postseason game. 36 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 4: We we text all the entire time. But about you know, 37 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 4: zig zag sports wagering, right, how we do on player props? 38 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 4: But I cannot have a worse NBA posting than had 39 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 4: last year that I'm looking forward to probably be just 40 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 4: a lot of averages being better this year on some 41 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 4: of those bets, and uh and and so they're just 42 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 4: there's just a care factor and a want to that's 43 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 4: different the postseason. And look, I mean again, you can 44 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 4: watch any of the regular season. You can watch the 45 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 4: final week of the regular season, and then put on 46 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 4: the postseason. Looks like two different games are being played. 47 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, sure, And. 48 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 4: I just wait now, there are some good storylines obviously, 49 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 4: the horn with the Hornets are doing right, Like they're like, 50 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 4: who's gonna end up being the best team out of 51 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 4: the East. I mean, it looks like the Pistons. But 52 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 4: just like there's some there's some fun storylines, right, is 53 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 4: Tatum coming back on the Celtic's gonna you'll be even better? 54 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 4: They're playing much bet and there's some fun storylines the NBA. 55 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 4: I totally understand that, right, But the fact is, like 56 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 4: I don't invest much time in it because when the 57 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 4: Posters comes, it's a whole different ballgame, right, The game 58 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 4: is different. You know, the the way that the guys 59 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 4: play defense every night is different. You know, the the 60 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 4: ability to win some of these games becomes different. And 61 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 4: so I just don't put much and it's the NBA. 62 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 4: It's it's the fall of the league. And I've said 63 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 4: this for a while now, Brian and everyone talks about, 64 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 4: you know, the root cause of some of the tanking 65 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 4: and some of the lack of caring. People want to 66 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 4: put blame on Adam Silver absolutely deserves blame. The league 67 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 4: deserves blame for that. But it's the players, right, It's 68 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 4: a it's a culture the NBA. If they wanted to 69 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 4: play every night and it mattered to them to play, 70 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 4: they play every night. They would if it mattered to 71 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 4: them enough to play every night, if it mattered to 72 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 4: the players enough to tell your coach, hey, man, I'm 73 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 4: not saying out a fourth quarter of a close game. Yeah, 74 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 4: they play in the fourth quarter of a close game 75 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 4: like I and they would. They would, And the players, 76 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 4: for whatever reason, maybe because they figured it out that 77 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 4: if you play less games, you're you're presser for the postseason. 78 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 4: And certain the NBA schedule could be part of the 79 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 4: discussion as well. But the thing that comes down to 80 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 4: is the NBA has set up a system that promotes tanking, right, 81 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 4: It promotes players taking nights off to get ready, you know, 82 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 4: for whatever to rest your body. If they didn't want 83 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 4: to do it as players, they wouldn't do it. But 84 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 4: that's what they do right now. That's the culture of 85 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 4: the NBA. 86 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, a couple of things here. The first part is, 87 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 3: I don't want to make this college basketball versus the 88 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 3: NBA because I love both, and you can you can, 89 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 3: like you know, contractually, you can love both. You don't 90 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 3: have to hate one and love the other. 91 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 4: And you know, I do love those culture ball tweets 92 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 4: during the playoffs, like, man, nothing better than this. And 93 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 4: then the NFL has like seven better playoff games. 94 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, like wild Card weekend. It's a bunch of lead 95 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 3: changes in the fourth quarter. It was amazing, wild Indiana Miami. 96 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 4: I don't know the seven NFL games the next day 97 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 4: that we're better. 98 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 3: Right, yeah, yeah, But yeah, you can love both like 99 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 3: I love the NFL, love college football. I love boxing MMA, 100 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 3: I'm great with you don't have to. 101 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 4: He one, uh the Gina Serrano Yeah right. 102 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 3: Our guy Ronda Rousey, you know. 103 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 4: Just fought in like eighteen years, right, I know. 104 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, both, it's crazy, both of them, like 105 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 3: they've they've been gone for a long time. Like that's 106 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 3: a whole side issue where they're gonna get extra careful, 107 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 3: you know, like medical attention. Ronda Rousey made some comments 108 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 3: where she had a bunch of concussions that she had 109 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 3: to hide, and they're they're putting all these yeah tests, 110 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 3: and yeah, they're doing a whole thing with that fight. 111 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 3: But it'd be cool. Yeah, like, uh, Gina hasn't fought. 112 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,679 Speaker 3: She's forty and she has fought since like oh six 113 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 3: or something, Pro nine. Insane. But they're gonna, They're gonna 114 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 3: get it on. I'm excited for that. But you you 115 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 3: can love boxing, MMA. You don't have to love one 116 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 3: and hate the other. 117 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 4: Correct. 118 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 3: So this isn't like I love the NBA hate college basketball. 119 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 3: I love them both. But the thing is the effort 120 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 3: thing is it's important to mention this because listen, it's 121 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 3: going to sound like I'm bailing them out. I don't 122 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 3: mean this at all. They used to play eighty two games. 123 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 3: It wasn't an issue all of a sudden. It's become 124 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 3: you know, like backbreaking to play eighty two games at 125 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 3: a high level. I just don't buy it. It's just 126 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 3: the effort level isn't the same. But if you're comparing 127 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 3: the NBA to college basketball. Eighty two games versus thirty 128 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,679 Speaker 3: two ish games, you know what I mean? Huge difference. 129 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, forty eight. 130 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 3: Minutes versus forty minutes. So the thing that bothers me 131 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 3: when I hear college basketball guy talk, it's like, oh, 132 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 3: they give full effort. It's like cause they play fifty 133 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 3: fewer games, dude, and they're playing eight fewer minutes per night. Like, 134 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 3: come on, you gotta cut some corners a little bit 135 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 3: if that's the workload. So it's just it annoys me 136 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 3: when I hear that. When listen college basketball guy loves 137 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 3: college basketball and will trash the NBA and some of 138 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,559 Speaker 3: the comments, I'm like, bro, you realize what you're saying 139 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 3: right now. It's not apples to apples at all. You 140 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 3: think college kids are given the same effort eight more 141 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 3: minutes per night, fifty more games, There's no way they would. 142 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 3: They couldn't. 143 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 4: So Lebron has talked about the NBA is harder now 144 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 4: than it was when he entered, and I do wonder 145 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 4: if that's just a function of a few things. Right. 146 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 4: One is that the pace of games now, right, the scoring, 147 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 4: it's a lot more running. I would imagine just like 148 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 4: back and forth, back and forth. Right, Yeah, we often 149 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 4: see you know, the pace of these games, so I 150 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 4: can understand maybe that being a legitimate concern. Then of course, 151 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 4: like just you know, the style of game as well, right, 152 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 4: being part of it, and the AAU basketball stuff. These 153 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 4: guys are playing so many games at early age. That's why, 154 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 4: I mean, you should not tear your achilles at twenty 155 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 4: seven years old, right, And I do wonder if all 156 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 4: the things I mentioned is sort of the reason why. 157 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 4: So I can buy the idea that the game is 158 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 4: tougher to play now just physically speaking than it was 159 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 4: years coming. Look, we're not that far removed from an 160 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 4: eighty three seventy nine NBA game seven, Like, we're not. 161 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 4: It's not that long ago, right, if that was the 162 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 4: way that, you know, the way the style of game 163 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 4: was played, So I can buy some of those things 164 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 4: as far as Okay, this is the reason why you know, 165 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 4: the we're taking nights off. But the NBA has to 166 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 4: address all these problems. I'll tell you why. There's many 167 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 4: reasons for it. But look, I feel like I'm the 168 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 4: consumer the NBA sort of wants, right, Like I have 169 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 4: income to take my family to games. I have the means. 170 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 4: I have the means to watch the NBA. I'm a 171 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 4: sports fan. I love like maybe I have a two 172 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 4: wagers on a on a A women's bronze medal game 173 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 4: here in thirty. 174 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 3: Minutes, is gonna say, and you're a gambler. Even better 175 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 3: for the NBA. 176 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 4: I feel the NBA like want would like me to 177 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 4: be an NBA fan. But if I go purchase Hornets tickets, 178 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 4: which are too expensive, by the way, for how well 179 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 4: they normally play, that's another whole story. And I purchase 180 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 4: tickets to watch someone play, right, normally I watched. I 181 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 4: purchased to watch someone else play. One year, I purchased 182 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 4: Laker tickets Lebron and ad both did not play. I'm 183 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 4: just not doing it again. Yeah, I'm not doing it again. 184 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 3: Totally get it. 185 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not buying tickets to watch the Hornets or 186 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 4: anyone play if I can't guarantee the stars are going 187 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 4: to play. And so that is a major problem NBAS 188 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 4: to fix now. Of course, you know, the tanking part 189 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 4: of it is a whole nother story. You know, Do 190 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 4: I want to pay two dollars to watch the Hornets 191 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 4: play someone who's not trying to win. 192 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 3: No, like, no, you're not gonna want to do that. 193 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 4: And so you know, we we I think me and 194 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 4: you were texting about, you know, some NBA win totals 195 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 4: for well, we talked about it. I think sundown the 196 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 4: Hornets or a team. I looked at it, like, are 197 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 4: they really going to go sixteen and twelve? I think 198 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 4: it was right to go over When you look at 199 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 4: the schedule, there's like eight games against teams that are 200 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 4: taking and you're like, well, then they have to win. 201 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 4: Now that you have to win you know, you know, 202 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 4: basically half of their games right there, half of the 203 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 4: remaining games, right yeah, And do you want your league 204 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 4: talking about this? You know, taking has to be the 205 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 4: last sort of you know, seventy games seventy eight now 206 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 4: we're doing in the middle of February. It's bad. The 207 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 4: transition from NFL, right, we're watching NFL, NF, NFL, now 208 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 4: we're watching you know, you know, NBA. And the storyline 209 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 4: is the Jazz just are sitting stars in the fourth 210 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 4: court like legitimate, Like yeah, guy, So NBA, there's I mean, 211 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 4: many solutions we could talk about, but they just got 212 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 4: the all this has to be fixed. 213 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 3: It has to be. It can't be the way your 214 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 3: league operates. It's just embarrassing, and it really it takes 215 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 3: all the focus away from everything else. We're not going 216 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 3: to talk about the games and the players as much. 217 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 3: The story. The main story, like you know, page one 218 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 3: if you're doing the old newspaper thing, is tanking. That's 219 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 3: the lead story. That is so bad for your league 220 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 3: to have that as the lead lead story where literally 221 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 3: like a third of the league is tanking. Tanking is 222 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 3: a nice word to describe intentionally throwing games, you know, 223 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 3: Like that's what they're that's what tanking is. Like tanking 224 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 3: just sounds like, ah, it does, no big deal. It's like, no, 225 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 3: it is a big deal. They're intentionally trying to lose 226 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 3: on purpose, that's what's happening. And like about ten teams 227 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 3: or nine teams are doing this. That's almost a third 228 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 3: of your league. That just can't be the way the 229 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 3: league operates. And it's this star studded draft, This freshman 230 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 3: class is insane, and so there's depth there and all 231 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 3: these teams are like, well, we should just lose games. 232 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 3: That's the best path toward. Like listen, I get why 233 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 3: teams would want a tank, it's a star studed draft, 234 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 3: but the NBA can't allow it. I get why kids 235 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 3: want to eat ice cream for dinner, but as a parent, 236 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 3: you can't allow that. It's on the league to not 237 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 3: allow that to take place, and they allow it. They 238 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 3: can't be the. 239 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 4: Way if my kids wanted, they would, you know, they'd 240 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 4: eat ice creamery real and you have to of course, 241 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 4: you have to be. And so this is where now 242 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 4: we talk about the commissioner, right, because I think the 243 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 4: players that's a culture problem first, right, And Steph Curry 244 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 4: had a quote it All Start Break that basically was 245 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 4: like just kind of like about like the taking. Well, 246 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 4: I wass are still playing like the players of God 247 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 4: think responsibility for this? 248 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 2: Right? Right? 249 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 4: David Starr would never let this happen. 250 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 3: Never, And yeah. 251 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 4: I I'm a former player, I am pro player, but 252 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 4: I understand the business of things. I understand sometimes you 253 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 4: have to have a heavy hand as a commissioner. And 254 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 4: Adam Silver is way to player friendly. It's just it's 255 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 4: it's wait, it's just it's if he wanted to stop this, 256 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 4: it would be done. Now. I do not buy the 257 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 4: story that came out this week that somehow gambling companies 258 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 4: are telling him to stop the tanking. That what oh, 259 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 4: because unders are hitting, they're unseat that Unders keep hitting. No, 260 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 4: he stopped because if the integrity of the game problem. 261 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 4: Look the NFL, for good or for worse, they care 262 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 4: about one thing, the integrity of the game, right, and 263 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 4: they make their punishments for infractions based around that. We 264 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 4: talk about this a lot. How it seems that you know, 265 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 4: there's harsher penalties for placing a parlay than punching a woman, right, 266 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 4: And the reason for that is because the NFL views 267 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 4: gambling on their sport as an integrity issue. Unfortunately, doesn't 268 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 4: view punch you a woman the same way. I disagree 269 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 4: on that, but that's what the NFL. It's how the 270 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 4: NFL have used it. And the NBA does not seem 271 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 4: to view anything along the same lenses where they where 272 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 4: they view the integrity. They don't they're players league, right, 273 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 4: or do what the players want to do. I think 274 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 4: they need to start being an integrity of the game 275 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 4: league and stop having taking and stop having a situation 276 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 4: where you just sit your starters in the fourth quarter. Yeah, 277 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 4: it's so, it's not even like they're not even trying 278 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 4: to hide what they're doing. 279 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, because that's that's the new realm. We've entered a 280 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 3: new realm of tanking where there's a game where the Jazz, 281 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 3: they had a huge lead, they're up by like seventeen points. 282 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 3: Fourth quarter rolls around. They're like, all right, we're gonna 283 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 3: sit our main guys, Jaron Jackson Junior just came over 284 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 3: here playing great, yeah, and take the fourth quarter off. 285 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 3: They lost the game. They lost the game out right, 286 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 3: and they got fined for it. It's just such blatant 287 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 3: tanking where, yeah. 288 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 4: You know what's funny about the sportsbook the story too, 289 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 4: about sportsbooks supposed to calling Adam Silver about it. They 290 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 4: they did that another night they were up against the Heat. 291 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 3: I think, yeah, and they won that game. 292 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 4: They won the game. I bet on the Heat. I 293 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 4: was like, okay, I'm gonna take the Heat money line 294 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 4: because there starters. They won the game. So the sportsbooks 295 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 4: won money. Again, like what the sportsbooks? I get sports 296 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 4: boks like Adam's over. We can't have this anymore. They're not. 297 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 4: That's a good shield right to change the rule. But 298 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 4: it doesn't feel like Adam Silver has had enough for this. 299 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 4: At least his press Conference, n the All Star weekends. 300 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 4: Enough of this. I think he needs to put in 301 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 4: harsh punishments and he needs to just say, I'm the 302 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 4: commissioner of the sport. I am going to make these decisions. 303 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 4: If I think you are taking, you're gonna lose draft picks, 304 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 4: or you're gonna lose ping pong balls, you're losing salary cap. 305 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 4: Imagine if they took a percentage of your salary cap 306 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 4: for next season depending on how much he thinks you're tanking, 307 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 4: like or you know, or you draft in the top 308 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 4: four one year, you can't draft from top ten the 309 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 4: next year. Something like that. 310 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 311 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I don't know what it is, but there 312 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 4: has to be a consequence for not trying to win 313 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 4: games every night. Now, I understand again Game eighty one, 314 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 4: Game eighty two. Look, I'm I'm the NFL teams taking 315 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 4: in Week eighteen. I don't care about that. But you 316 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 4: can't do it in mid Fabruary. You can't do it 317 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 4: in game fifty. 318 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 3: No, that's exactly right. And that's the thing too. You 319 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 3: would get pushed back from the NBPA, you know, the 320 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 3: Players Association if this is a salary cap thing, because 321 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 3: that limits what the players can make, right, sure, but 322 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 3: think about this if it's just typically the Players Association 323 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 3: pushes back on everything, but think about just unilaterally David 324 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 3: sterning this thing, and just like, oh, you're blatantly tanking. 325 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 3: You're resting healthy guys. I was watching the game, there 326 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 3: was no injury. You're blatantly tanking by resting those guys 327 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter. Guess what your lottery pick. You're 328 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 3: picking thirtieth in the first round or whatever it came 329 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 3: up with. The Players Association wouldn't push back on that. 330 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 3: It's not limiting what the players can make. You're not 331 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 3: hurting the players, you're hurting the team, right, Like, So 332 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 3: the idea of you know, just going David Stern and 333 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 3: going rogue and like, okay, this is the end of tanking. 334 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 3: These are the punishments act accordingly. I just don't think 335 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 3: the Players Association would push back. Yeah, great, that like 336 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 3: it doesn't hurt their players, It just discourages teams from 337 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 3: doing it. Why would they care about that? So there's 338 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 3: no reason not to just wave a wand and say, 339 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 3: you know, this is over with new day and age, 340 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 3: no more tanking. And he's just not that guy. 341 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 4: The thing is Cadell will just do it. He would, 342 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 4: he would just do it. And for a while there 343 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 4: he punished players, Yeah, without the PA's approval, Like that's right. 344 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 4: They they you know, it was part of the CBA 345 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 4: that he was allowed to do this, that he just 346 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 4: did it. And so I'm curious if Adam sower, we'll 347 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 4: start treating this situation with the with with what it deserves, 348 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 4: with the with with the severity deserves. So I don't 349 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 4: know if he's going to do that. I really don't. 350 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 4: It seems like he's tired of it. I would be 351 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 4: tired of I was the commissioner of the sport, and 352 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 4: so I'm very curious to see what happens this offseason 353 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 4: when it comes to this topic. 354 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 3: He's just way too measured at times. This whole the 355 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 3: tanking thing is the biggest stay in on his whole 356 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 3: tenure as the NBA commissioner. 357 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 4: By just making a ton of money, I mean he's 358 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 4: doing his job. I mean he's doing what he has 359 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 4: to do to make money. 360 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 3: He's made some really good decisions, he's made some good moves. 361 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 3: But the tanking thing, that is the biggest thing because 362 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 3: it ruins the product. It's a bad product, yes, and 363 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 3: he knows it, and it's it's gotten worse over his watch. 364 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 3: And now with guys who had teams just sitting dudes 365 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter and uh, and now they're getting 366 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 3: fined like a five hundred thousand dollars fine. That is 367 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 3: nothing like the jazz are like true, here you go, 368 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 3: here's your five hundred thousand dollars commission. No big deal 369 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 3: at all. This isn't discouraging anything, if anything, is just 370 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 3: shining a brighter light on tanking happening. Just like tap 371 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 3: on the shoulder. Hey, if you didn't realize this this 372 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 3: is going on, it's actually bad for the league to 373 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 3: do that. It's not a real punishment, like either come 374 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 3: up with the real punishment or don't bother because it 375 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 3: just makes you look worse. 376 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 4: And you just have to say, I know that people 377 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 4: might push back to There has to be like or 378 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 4: the PA pushbacks. There has to be like a rubric 379 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 4: right to grade like how teams are tanking. And my 380 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 4: thing would be like, no, no, right, we have eyeballs. You're 381 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 4: tanking like sover can figure you figure it out if 382 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 4: you're taking or not. And you know what the teams 383 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 4: might what they might do is what the Jazz did. 384 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 4: Just Oh, Jared Jackson, you're out for the season. Yes, 385 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 4: I mean it's their right to do that. 386 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 3: And then yeah, he's getting surgery. 387 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 4: So they're like, okay, I mean sure, sure, sure, like 388 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 4: you win, but if they're if they're healthy, you got 389 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 4: to try to win again. And that's just again, we 390 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 4: talk about tanking a lot when it comes like the NFL, 391 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 4: the end of the players try to win the game. 392 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 4: And to be fair, the players in the NBA are 393 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 4: also trying to win the game. That are report they're 394 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 4: just not putting the best players purposely on the field. 395 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 3: Well that's the thing. I'll say this real fast is 396 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 3: David Stern would have just done something, yes, and he 397 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 3: would have been like he would have adjusted right, It's like, 398 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 3: this is what's happening. No more tanking. And then and 399 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 3: whatever system he came up with, if it needed to 400 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 3: be tweaked, he would tweak it along the way. But 401 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 3: he would do something. You know, like Adam silver Is 402 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 3: he's like making something in the kitchen and he's like, 403 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 3: I don't know if it needs a teaspoon of sugar 404 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 3: or more so, and he's not doing anything. It's like, bro, 405 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 3: just make the thing, see how it turns out. If 406 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 3: you need to adjust, then adjust on the next go around. 407 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 3: But do something, man, It's to the point where you 408 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 3: gotta do something. He's just not so it's it's a problem. 409 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 3: That's that's just way overdue for change, massive change. And 410 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 3: it's unfortunate because I love the NBA and that is 411 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 3: the lead story by far. It's tanking, tanking, tanking, tanking 412 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 3: and oh, by the way, Porzingis is playing tonight like 413 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 3: that as the way it goes. Man, it's unfortunate. Gotta 414 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 3: do something about it, all right. Coming up next, is 415 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 3: it time for a team to say goodbye to a 416 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 3: big name player. We will get to that. He's Jeff Schwartz. 417 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 3: Brian Know. 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We've been talking 437 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 3: about that a little bit here. Jeff DraftKings announced them 438 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 3: or unveiled them, and other sportsbooks will be following suit 439 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 3: here and so we have something to react to. It's 440 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 3: just beautiful, beautiful stuff. And you mentioned earlier the Kansas 441 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 3: City Chiefs. They're at ten and a half wins. That's 442 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 3: their season win total, and it's juice to the over 443 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 3: by the way, you know, some people anticipating a bounce 444 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 3: back season for the Kansas City Chiefs, but there's some 445 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 3: other news connected to that that I wanted to bring 446 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 3: up with you. You know, you follow the Chiefs probably 447 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 3: closer than any other NFL team, and this Rashi Rice 448 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 3: situation here. So it's the Chiefs wide receiver Rashi Rice, 449 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 3: and he's accused by his ex girlfriend of repeatedly assaulting 450 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 3: her during their eighteen month relationship. They've they've been together 451 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 3: for a lot longer than that. I think they have 452 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 3: two kids together, but it was an eighteen month span 453 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 3: between twenty twenty three and twenty five. And Dakota Jones, 454 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 3: she's the ex girlfriend. She's seeking more than a million dollars. 455 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 3: These things are always jeff right, like, it's possible this 456 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 3: did indeed happened. It's possible it's being embellished, and this 457 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 3: is a cash grab. 458 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 4: I don't know. 459 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 3: I wasn't there. I don't know what did or didn't happen. 460 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 3: But what I do know is Rashie Rice. He pleaded 461 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 3: guilty to felony collision involving serious bodily injury, which is 462 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 3: a fancy way of saying he was racing on the 463 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 3: highway driving one hundred and nineteen miles per hour, caused 464 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 3: a multi car wreck and was suspended for six games 465 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 3: because of this. Violated the league. 466 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 4: He also, yeah, he. 467 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 3: Fled, fled the scene. Yep, there's a big deal. Probably 468 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 3: most likely. Yeah, But in any event, suspended for six games. 469 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 3: He violated the league's personal conduct policy. So now with 470 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 3: the latest civil lawsuit, you know, who knows, this could 471 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 3: mean more games for Rashi Rice. And it just it 472 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 3: gets my mind working. Where would the Chiefs even consider 473 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 3: Would they look at this and be like, Rashi Rice 474 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 3: is just this is another thing. We don't know if 475 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 3: it did happen, but he's accused of it happening. He's 476 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 3: already been suspended, He's already had questionable judgment. He's just 477 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 3: he's messing up left and right off the field, and 478 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 3: he was messing up left and right on the field. 479 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 4: Jev. 480 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 3: How many dropped passes did he have in critical moments? 481 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 3: One was on it was like Thanksgiving against the Cowboys 482 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 3: and just dropped the ball key moment in the game. 483 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:27,719 Speaker 3: He did not have a good season at all. Did 484 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 3: the Chiefs even think about maybe moving on from him? 485 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 3: What do you think about that? 486 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 4: So with the caveat of course, who right, you wait 487 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 4: for all the information to come out and you know, 488 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 4: take this process as it should, right, everyone is allowed 489 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 4: their day in court. Now, this is a civil case, 490 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 4: not a criminal case, right, so it's a little different. 491 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 4: But the chiefs have always sort of been willing to 492 00:24:54,440 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 4: take guys with questionable backgrounds, right, And that's just kind 493 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 4: of been their m me, Andy Read's always been okay 494 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 4: with that. You know, some some guys should be afforded 495 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 4: the opportunity to have a second chance. 496 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 1: Right. 497 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 4: He did that with Michael Vick, right, Michael Vick came 498 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 4: out of prison and sided with the with the with 499 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 4: the equal you should have a chance, right now, are 500 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 4: some people want to argue that you shouldn't. I disagree 501 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 4: on that, but as you mentioned, this is not the 502 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 4: first thing with Rashid Rice, right, And if I were 503 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 4: the chiefs, I would just be concerned of the maturity 504 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 4: level and that these incidents, now these are separate incidents, right, 505 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 4: but that they keep happening every year, Right, So every 506 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 4: year you're dealing with a car racing on the highway 507 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 4: and you leave the scene. The next year dealing with 508 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 4: your player being accused in a civil lawsuit of you know, 509 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 4: injuring and hitting and you know, the domestic violence, uh 510 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 4: to to snifficing another and there's other allegations in there 511 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 4: that are just equally as bad. Right, It's it's terrible 512 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 4: if if it's all true, And I just I the 513 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 4: Chiefs aren't going to cut up, but I would I 514 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 4: just be done with it. I'd be done with it. Yeah, 515 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 4: the Chiefs, they're not going to do it. Just knowing them, 516 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 4: and maybe they surprised me, but I doubt especially with 517 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 4: their roster at the moment they had two other wide receivers. 518 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 4: You maybe you feel like, oh yeah, yeah, I mean, 519 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 4: we know, okay, like we'll get rid of them and whatever. 520 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 4: But my guests is they're going to say they're always 521 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 4: going to say, well, let us play out and see 522 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 4: what happens. But he just seems like a guy who's 523 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 4: going to have these things follow him his whole career. 524 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 4: This is now two straight off seasons where he's had 525 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 4: again a felony, felony with this, you know, multiple felonies, 526 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 4: and now he's being accused of terrible crimes of domestic violence. Yeah, 527 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 4: I mean, what more do you need if you're again 528 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 4: the Chiefs have been more lenient than others and in 529 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 4: signing players, drafting players with with backgrounds that you know 530 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 4: are not clean. So maybe they feel comfortable just weighing 531 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 4: this out. And again, I mean they can right, they 532 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 4: can't wait it out, and there's nothing wrong with that. 533 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 4: And I do again believe that you should let the 534 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 4: you know, the court system play out a little before 535 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 4: we render complete judgment. But it does feel like, you know, 536 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 4: these are these are these are how accurate you want 537 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 4: to what we're doing these? But it happened, right, I 538 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 4: don't think that all this is fake, But I don't 539 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 4: know br I just would get rid of them and 540 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 4: be done with it. But yeah, I don't think she's 541 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 4: just going to do that. 542 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting. The thing is from the football standpoint, right, 543 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 3: is uh, which team shakes it up and maybe a 544 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 3: big way. I don't anticipate the Chiefs doing this, even 545 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 3: though you certainly could make an argument that's exactly what 546 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 3: they should do is move on from Rushie Rice. And 547 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 3: it might not be just you know, a we believe 548 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 3: everything that the coccuser is saying. You're just like, okay, dude, 549 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 3: this it's probably not all made up. And this is 550 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,959 Speaker 3: on the heels of flying a scene when you're street racing. 551 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 3: It's like, bro, we just can't trust you. We can't 552 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 3: trust you make sound adult decisions right now, and we're 553 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 3: just moving on. You can make the argument for them 554 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 3: to do that, like you said, I don't anticipate them 555 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 3: doing that. But what team shakes it up in a 556 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 3: big way? Is it the the Eagles? Like the Eagles 557 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 3: are expected to to explore trade possibilities with their wide 558 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 3: receiver AJ Brown. 559 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 4: A big shake up? I think. Look, I think the 560 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 4: lesson in the NFL you just can't pay two wide receivers. 561 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 4: It worked for Philly because they hit a home run 562 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 4: the draft on the defensive line, right Like, they just 563 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 4: hit a home run there, and they they have one 564 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 4: best office and they just have drafted very well. But 565 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 4: you just pay two wide receivers long term does not 566 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 4: make any sense. Your team tried, it didn't work. You 567 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 4: know the Bengals are doing. I mean, the Bengals can't 568 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 4: make the playoffs. Ray, Yeah, you know the Eagles are doing. 569 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 4: It's just it's just not going to work. And there 570 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 4: are teams that need wide receivers like the Buffalo Bills, 571 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 4: that might be willing to part with some assets to 572 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 4: get themselves AJ Brown, who's you know? And for wide 573 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 4: receiver seems pretty moody, Like, I don't adding them to 574 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 4: to that team. I will find out. I think Josh 575 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 4: Allen's leadership can and the ability to to maybe win 576 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 4: a championship. Another one would fire up aj Brown there, 577 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 4: But I don't know. I don't know what team comes 578 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 4: to my mind. Mean, there'll be teams are gonna spend 579 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 4: money for agency. They have the money to spend. The 580 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 4: free agent class, Brian is getting worse by the year 581 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 4: in the NFL because there's such an emphasis now on 582 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 4: drafting developing players right, And if you draft a guy 583 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 4: and develop him, you want to pay him, right. You 584 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 4: want the core of your roster to be those guys. 585 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 4: And we're finding out that like players, I don't think 586 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 4: it's willing to take less is the right way to 587 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 4: put it, Brian, But they're willing to just stay, stay 588 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 4: put right for maybe a little bit less money. Right. 589 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 4: You you're in been a city forty five years now, 590 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 4: you like the coaching staff, you like you know you 591 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 4: have you've had child or two, right, so like you're 592 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 4: sort of set in the community. Do you really want 593 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 4: to leave? And so the fragi classes just get worse 594 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 4: over you because players are resigning. I mean, Fragian class 595 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 4: ain't great, not great Fraygian class and those guys end 596 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 4: up getting cut two years later. Anyways, So I don't 597 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 4: know if there's a big mover and shaker right now. 598 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 4: I don't feel like, you know, the Arizona might trade 599 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 4: their quarterback or the Dolphins might trade their quarterback. I mean, yeah, 600 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 4: those are sort of expected, right, sort of unexpected news. 601 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 4: I can't think of much right now other than I 602 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 4: guess maybe Max Cross being traded that that feels like 603 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 4: the one that stands out is like that could be 604 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 4: something that's that's would shake up the NFL. 605 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be a big deal. And uh, you know, 606 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 3: we'll get to some of his rap verses here shortly. 607 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 3: I don't know that he exactly killed it, but he's 608 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 3: talking about maybe being a forty nine er and if 609 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 3: that happened, imagine him opposite at Nick Bosa coming back 610 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 3: from major injury. 611 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,959 Speaker 4: But many enough they have enough assets for that trade out. 612 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 3: I don't know that they do, but that would certainly 613 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 3: be a move. 614 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 4: You know, if you're the Raiders, Brian, here's your here's 615 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 4: your options. 616 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 3: Right, it's a no brainer. You have to move on. 617 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 3: You have to you have to hear. 618 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 4: So here's the here, So here's my here's my question. 619 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 4: So if you so he's a culture guy, right, Like 620 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 4: he's obviously incredible full player, but that that culture he's 621 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 4: been there forever. I think that he's a guy you 622 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 4: want on your team, right, like you want those have 623 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 4: players on your team. I could see I could see 624 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,479 Speaker 4: Coube at a new coach and in spytech, who's there 625 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 4: in the second years the GM saying like we got 626 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 4: to keep this guy for just what he brings to 627 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 4: the team. But to your point, like everything you have 628 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 4: a new coach, like, you need a ton of help 629 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 4: on offense, like your offense right now, you're draft Mendoza. 630 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 4: You have to fix the offense when you are a 631 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 4: new coach or general manager. And I'm counting this as 632 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 4: like year one for these guys, right, you have to 633 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 4: fix typically the side of the ball that you coach, Right, 634 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 4: So like in year one, Kubik, they have to fix 635 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 4: the offense first, yeah, and then next day they can 636 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 4: fix the defense. And so you if you can trade 637 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 4: Crosby for a first round pick and then add Mendoza 638 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 4: and a wide receiver and. 639 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 3: Man, yeah, again a line you. 640 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 4: Would that's probably more beneficial to long term success than 641 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 4: keeping Crosby. 642 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 3: Absolutely listen, Crosby's magnificent. I love Max Crosby. He's dedicated, 643 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 3: he competes. I would love to see him on a 644 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 3: better Raiders team that has a chance to, you know, 645 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 3: do something in the playoffs, make the playoffs go far. 646 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 3: But he's just not there. I'm a big believer, Jeff 647 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 3: in the window. It's all about the window in the NFL. 648 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 3: Are the the Raiders in the window to compete for 649 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 3: a championship right now, they're not even close to approaching 650 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 3: the window. You can't have Max Crosby, who's a star player, 651 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 3: on your suck roster right now. You have to trade 652 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 3: him and go young and hopefully the young players that 653 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 3: you draft are good and they fit in the window 654 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 3: when you actually are good and can actually compete for 655 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 3: something like Unfortunately for Max Crosby, the window is not 656 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 3: right now for the Raiders, so you have to move 657 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 3: him and hopefully get players that sync up with your window. 658 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 3: It just doesn't sink up right now. That's why you 659 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 3: have to move on from him. 660 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 4: I agree, It's why I just hate the asking gent 661 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 4: to pick last year. So much for the Raiders because yeah, 662 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 4: you're not the window to use him correctly, exactly right 663 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 4: the offensive line. Now you've wasted a year of gent 664 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 4: and you they just have wasted a lot of time, 665 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 4: right uh, with with making that with making that drive 666 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 4: you shoulgar offensive line or trade out. 667 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 3: And he's really good. We're not saying he's not. It's 668 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 3: just like the Giants drafting Saquon correct like, they didn't 669 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 3: have the window to utilize Saquon properly. And goes to 670 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 3: the Eagles and he's a super So he's a rock star, 671 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 3: you know, because they do have the window. 672 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 4: And I and I just you know, people will point to, 673 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 4: you know, him playing so well in Philly and the 674 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 4: Giants should have kept him. No, they didn't. They couldn't 675 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 4: use him correctly. So as what we're talking about right now, 676 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 4: they couldn't use him properly. Why keep a player you 677 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 4: can't use properly for that much money? And yes, he 678 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 4: was great. I'm not debating that he wasn't great, you 679 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 4: know in Philly, but he wasn't great in New York either. 680 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 4: For like one season he was Okay, it was hurt 681 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 4: a bunch. They couldn't use him corectly. So I'm I'm 682 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 4: I very much agree with with what you're saying, Aaron Crosby. 683 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 4: I thought for a little bit of time they should 684 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 4: keep him, But the days go by, I keep I 685 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 4: think that I've reached inclusion that you just you gotta 686 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 4: get rid of a guy like that for the assets 687 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 4: to build your offense and start from scratch on that 688 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 4: side of the ball. 689 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 3: Absolutely, you do. You have to. It's it was like 690 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,720 Speaker 3: the Jets moving on from Sauce Gardener, Like the Sauce 691 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,959 Speaker 3: is a really good corner, some would argue a little 692 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 3: bit overrated, but they got two first round picks for 693 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 3: the guy. Jets where it's saying Sauce Gardeners, they're saying, 694 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 3: our roster sucks, like our our window was closed right now, 695 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 3: we're nowhere close to competing for a championship. We have 696 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,879 Speaker 3: to move him. We have to move Quinn Williams. Yeah, 697 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 3: those aren't bad players, they're really good players. But we 698 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 3: got to get draft picks and young assets and rebuild 699 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 3: this thing. So hopefully we actually do have a championship 700 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 3: window that's open. 701 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 4: I'm feeling certain Sauce Gardner had the worst record of 702 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:25,240 Speaker 4: the NFL last season. 703 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 3: What's that? Oh, yeah, because I think. 704 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 4: I think he only one I think he only won 705 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 4: one game of the Colts. 706 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 3: He went over to the Colts, got hurt right away, 707 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 3: you know. 708 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,399 Speaker 4: And uh, but the Colts remember they they they down 709 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 4: the stretch and. 710 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 3: Lost like seven, They lost everything. Daniel Jones went down 711 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 3: and yeah, just went completely downhill. Yeah, pretty crazy. All right. 712 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 3: Right around the corner, we will get to uh some 713 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 3: interesting audio to say the least, and some some big 714 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 3: time matchups right around the corner as well. We will 715 00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 3: get to that. And he's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian no 716 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,399 Speaker 3: and for Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here 717 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,720 Speaker 3: on Fox Sports Radio. 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He's Jeff Schwartz, Mombrian know 728 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 3: in for two pros and a cup of Joe. For 729 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 3: over forty years, Tirak has been helping customers find the 730 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 3: right tires for how, what and where they drive, ship 731 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 3: fast and free, backed by free road hazard protection with 732 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 3: convenient installation options like Moble Tire Installation, tire rack dot 733 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 3: Com the way tire buying should be. And it is 734 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 3: time for the tire rack play of the day. There 735 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 3: it is complements of NBC as the As the US 736 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 3: moves on against Sweden two one in overtime, how about 737 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 3: three on three overtime hockey? The purests hated huh, Jeff. 738 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 4: They despise that. I I sort of understand, right, Like 739 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 4: three on three hockey favors a team like US, a 740 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,879 Speaker 4: favorite team like Canada that have great, great school, great 741 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 4: great goal scorers in space. If you know it's it's 742 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 4: if you if you play this, you know I get 743 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 4: I totally understand. 744 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it too. Quinn Hewett Quinn Hughes with 745 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 3: the the game winner right there, And uh, it was 746 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 3: crazy because I was watching it live and he hit 747 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 3: the post. It's like dang, and I'm like, all right, 748 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 3: I just thought, you know, it took a millisecond. But 749 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, that's a miss. And you know, 750 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 3: Kenny Albert's like, oh gosh, and I'm like, wow, that 751 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 3: went hardly Ever, when it hits the post like that, 752 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 3: it goes in. But that was a great shot, and uh, 753 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 3: team USA moves on. Right there are we on a 754 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 3: collision course with USA versus Canada. Here Jeff and the 755 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 3: Golden medal. 756 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna smoke. I think Slovakia actually 757 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 4: Canada should you know it should beat Uh. I think 758 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 4: it's Finland and we'll be on a I mean, look, 759 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 4: this is what we deserve, right Canada? Usa? 760 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 3: Absolutely? 761 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 4: I think these are the two teams that have exclusively 762 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,800 Speaker 4: NHL players on them. Yeah, so we this is the 763 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 4: game we deserve as fans. 764 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 3: Absolutely. How about sid the kid Sidney Crosby got banged up. 765 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, they claim he's gonna play, but I don't know. 766 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 4: He seemed like he got pretty big shot there. 767 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 3: By the way, from one Crosby to the next, we 768 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 3: go from Sidney Crosby to Max Crosby. I want you 769 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 3: to rate, on a scale from one to ten, the 770 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 3: rap skills of one Max Crosby, maybe soon to be 771 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 3: ex member of the Las Vegas rates. Okay, this is 772 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 3: a little hint of where Max Crosby might land, or 773 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 3: at least who he has his eye on. The forty 774 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 3: nine ers over here? How about this little ten second 775 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 3: rap from Max Crosby? What do you think ten is 776 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,959 Speaker 3: the highest grade here? Jeff? I want you to grade 777 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 3: this very accurately, if you will, all right, here we go. 778 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 3: We canna say the brand new crib in a bay. 779 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 3: We're gonna down in the bay shoot his lifes deaf 780 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 3: and kay? Okay, tenth the highest score? What do you 781 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:36,760 Speaker 3: give him? Jeff? 782 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:38,840 Speaker 4: One and a half? 783 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 3: Wow, one and a half. We're too fond of that. 784 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 4: Huh, what do you what do you give? What do 785 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 4: you give a one hundred? Like auto tuned? 786 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 3: Yeah? 787 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 4: Verse about like this? That seems if you had told 788 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 4: me that was a I would believe you. I don't like, 789 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 4: what's that kind of part from anything else? 790 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 3: It's true, and I think he rammed. He rhymed bay 791 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 3: with bay. You got the duct points on that? That 792 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 3: is not good. 793 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 4: I mean if you told me the a I did that, 794 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:07,800 Speaker 4: I'd be like, oh, yeah, okay. 795 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 3: You're right. It's it's not a too board, you know. 796 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 3: It's just like I get that he's chill, he's laid back. 797 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 3: I get it, that's the vibe. Okay. But it's just just. 798 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:21,799 Speaker 5: Like like they just had you had some some uh 799 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 5: something beforehand, right right, that's right, little bit. 800 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 3: Yea yeah, two mellow to mellow for my taste right there. 801 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,319 Speaker 4: But well, yeah, of course it's for your taste. If 802 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 4: you if you would have screamed in the. 803 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 3: Microphone, I'd be like, yeah, let's go back cross. That's 804 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,359 Speaker 3: exactly right by the way, before we get out of here. 805 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 3: Season win totals Carolina Panthers six and a half, Jeff, 806 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 3: they just won eight games. How about my Dolphins four 807 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,840 Speaker 3: and a half. They're dead last with the Arizona Cardinals. 808 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 3: I don't know that they're winning five games. They've they've 809 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 3: gotten rid of their team. It's it's sad fun working 810 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 3: with you, buddy. Everybody, have a good day. We'll catch 811 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 3: you later.