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Speaker 1: Well, well, well, we finally have some actual basketball to

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Speaker 1: discuss as preseason action is upon us, and we'll get

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Speaker 1: into some of the action as we conclude our divisional

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Speaker 1: breakdowns with our Northwest Division expectations with the Athletics. Very

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Speaker 1: own Tony Jones on today's episode, I'm Miles.

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Speaker 2: Gray and I'm Jack O'Brien, and this is three got it?

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Speaker 2: Luka do ch Okay?

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Speaker 3: There you go, NB driving spinning Saturn number eighteen that's

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Speaker 3: been secured the Celtics or NBA champions.

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Speaker 4: Over the pebble team.

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Speaker 5: Nine.

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Speaker 3: Be honest, look shot time, what you got, be honest,

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Speaker 3: Tony Jones.

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Speaker 5: On the Athletic.

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Speaker 1: You cover the Sixers, Nuggets and Jazz this season.

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Speaker 2: First of all, welcome to the family the Sixers. Hey,

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Speaker 2: why don't you get in here for a welcome to

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Speaker 2: the family.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, bring it in.

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Speaker 5: But you hear your family, Yeah, good to see you man.

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Speaker 1: So I'm also that that's an interesting triangle of cities

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Speaker 1: some mileage this season.

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Speaker 4: Listen, man, like you know, if you're not versatile, what

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Speaker 4: are we.

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Speaker 1: Doing, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, the best ability availability availability, yep, yep, yep.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, it's good to see you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like we said, there's actual basketball to talk

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Speaker 1: about rather than just sort of these fleeting fantasies of

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Speaker 1: what it might look like. And I think the first

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Speaker 5: And I know your.

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Speaker 1: Knicks guy, so I'm very curious from your standpoint, like

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Speaker 6: Everything's gonna be fine until everybody's calf starts falling off

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Speaker 4: They're playing forty six minutes a night.

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Speaker 5: Right, No, seriously, yeah.

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Speaker 6: I think you know, if you're being objective about the Knicks, like,

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Speaker 6: I think the starting five has probably sup Planet Denver

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Speaker 6: is the best in the league.

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Speaker 4: Women, is Boston starting five the best in the league.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think so Boston starting five is the best

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say they're like competing with Boston at this point, right.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, But I operate off of a Twitter mentality

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Speaker 6: where everything is arguable, So I say top five, so

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Speaker 6: why not to make it arguable?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 1: But also if you said it with your chest, you

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Speaker 1: You're like, it is the top five, and then you

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Speaker 2: Unquestionably the top number one, the top one starting five, the.

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Speaker 6: Top one started five. But the question for the Knick

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Speaker 4: Duce McBride is the six man at this point.

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Speaker 2: Oh you didn't know. You don't need depth in the NBA.

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Speaker 2: You just play everybody the whole time. Uh, yep, ten.

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Speaker 4: And he has tried to do that for twenty years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, or you know, you could call him

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Speaker 6: But I I mean, we wanted to go to Dominican route.

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Speaker 6: I think they need more depth. M you know, that's

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Speaker 2: Sounds about right, That's what they had in the playoffs,

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Speaker 6: So yeah, can you get through eighty two games with

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Speaker 6: there's no question. I mean, you know, runsing Heart ananob Kat.

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Speaker 4: I mean like that's just really rock solid. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a dynamic five. It can defend, It's got

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Speaker 4: You can do this.

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Speaker 6: But you can't count on Mitch Robinson to be there.

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Speaker 2: I feel like pressures that Chua can play some minutes, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: He can play some minutes. He can be an innings

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Speaker 2: Know, Landry Shammitt TJ Warren campaign. Yeah, I don't know, man,

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Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not too worried about I think. I think.

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Speaker 4: I'm just being listen, I'm just being me. I'm being pessimistic.

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Speaker 2: Becauseic Knicks fan. Yeah, I would not know anything about that.

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Speaker 4: As the Sixers fan, I would say this.

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Speaker 6: I think the Sixers, the Celtics in the Knicks are

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Speaker 6: on paper, the class of the Eastern Conference. I honestly

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Speaker 6: think you can add to the Indiana Pacers to that group.

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Speaker 6: I know that a lot of people are adding them

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Speaker 4: But I don't.

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Speaker 6: I don't think outside of Giannis and Dame, they're good enough.

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Speaker 4: Right. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Double ankle surgery. Not a huge fan of that for Middleton, No, never, never, never.

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Speaker 1: We got to see though. There was a moment in

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Speaker 5: Season, which is a few weeks away.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not sure what exactly that means, if he

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Speaker 4: Jow's the guy. I mean.

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Speaker 6: Memphis is a team that I think has a chance

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're a great over pick on wins.

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Speaker 2: Although I think I think like Vegas is onto them too,

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Speaker 2: It feels like a lot of pressure on Edie for

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Speaker 2: I think Edie is gonna be good. But now he's

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Speaker 6: So, yeah, his best attribute this year is going to

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Speaker 6: And if you give Jaw great screens, good luck stopping

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good luck stopping him without screens. But especially when

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Speaker 2: Is that how baptisms work? The more you can do,

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Speaker 2: it's like rate of baptism.

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Speaker 5: I think you just need the one.

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Speaker 1: Oh really, I don't know, you just I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you have you ever doubled it for a baptist?

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Speaker 2: Hey, can we get another one for like cheap?

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Speaker 5: I'm already in the water.

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Speaker 4: I saw it and the first one was ugly.

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, the second one was just like.

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Speaker 2: what's this over here? Yeah? No, you actually should know

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Speaker 2: by now, Walker Kessler, what this is. It's a bad

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Speaker 2: business decisions exactly.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Where did where did you go to business school?

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Speaker 2: I mean, Whitmore does sound like a business school?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah it does.

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Speaker 2: Did you go to Wharton? No, I actually went to

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Speaker 2: Wit That's Columbia's business school. Yeah. Actually, pretty pretty nasty, man,

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Speaker 2: It gets pretty nasty up there. I'm not gonna lie

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Speaker 5: So yeah, it's pretty tough. It's pretty tough.

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Speaker 1: The other thing too, is, you know, as a Laker fan,

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Speaker 2: I always forget you're a Laker.

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Speaker 5: People forget that.

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Speaker 2: I'm so understated about it.

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Speaker 1: Look I like, I'm humble. I don't like to let

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Speaker 1: people know, you know, I don't. That's just that's just

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Speaker 1: I think a sentimental moment, right, father and son sharing

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Speaker 5: As a parent, I'm like, oh, that's that's nice. That's nice.

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Speaker 5: Pardon me, really is worried.

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Speaker 1: I want this experience to be as positive for Browny

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Speaker 1: as possible, And I am a little bit worried about

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Speaker 1: some of the rumblings in the Laker fan base.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes it's just like, I.

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Speaker 1: Sure, that's fine, but it now, please go to the

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Speaker 1: G League so you can actually properly develop. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I wait, are they are they being toxic about that?

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Speaker 2: I can't.

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Speaker 1: I think it's more that they're concerned for the young

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Speaker 5: he can get up, Yeah, yeah, he can get up.

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Speaker 6: Now that being said, as a basketball objective basketball journalist,

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Speaker 6: To have to develop probably all definitely all of this year,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, but cool to see. Nonetheless, maybe maybe keep

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Have you seen? Have you seen Jack?

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Speaker 6: Have you seen this schedule the first ten games? It's insane,

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Speaker 6: It's a real anomaly that I'm not sure I've ever

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Speaker 5: They just want to look, we got to we got

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and then you know they opened up with Minnesota

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Sons, Kings, Sons, Calves, Raptors, Pistons, Grizz Sixers, Raptors,

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Speaker 1: The one thing that I really did enjoy though, just

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Speaker 1: There's a moment where like Savannah was playing two K

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Speaker 6: How about bron idling up to Bronni for the photo

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Speaker 2: That is an underrated thing I hadn't thought about, is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, should we do it? Should we get

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Speaker 2: It has some of the top teams in the entire

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Speaker 2: l's to go around. Everybody's you know, Hope Springs Eternal. Preseason,

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Speaker 2: everybody's thinking, Wow, I mean, they're they're definitely gonna win

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Speaker 2: Oh and we are back.

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Speaker 2: It's true, we're back Northwest Division. So who are we

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Speaker 1: Okay, See, Minnesota should have done the Denver research.

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Speaker 5: I know, I know the Utah Jazz.

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Speaker 1: I know, you put bulls, you put the bulls in here.

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Speaker 1: It's actually the Blazers. Okay, yeah, but there's a.

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Speaker 5: B in an Utah Jazz, the Utah Blazers. No, no Portland,

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Speaker 1: See, as we've been going through these, we've always been

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Speaker 5: So Oklahoma City won fifty seven games last.

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Speaker 5: Like, oh, okay see, I think I think you had this.

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Speaker 5: This is looking pretty good. Jack.

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Speaker 1: Last year, before the season started, you took a punt

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Speaker 2: The summer league. I saw, I saw chet in Summer League.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why I suddenly sounded drunk there, but

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Speaker 5: And you know that they're adding the right pieces. Is

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Speaker 5: you know, Tony, you think this is is this time

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Speaker 4: I think that they might be my NBA title pick.

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Speaker 6: I just you know, they took the base of what

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Speaker 6: You know, taking a a play maker like Alex Caruso

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Speaker 6: You know, Hartenstein and Brusso to me, were just the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So then you know, obviously they have a

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Speaker 7: That need to be addressed? Still, if you're if you're

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Speaker 6: Well you can always you can never have enough shooting, right,

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Speaker 6: I'm always a believer that, you know, maybe they can

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Speaker 2: Now, yeah, they're perimeter stoppers. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Now you got two guys in the playoffs that are

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Speaker 6: I still think that Denver can give them a lot

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean Cruso, Like all last year, I

441
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Speaker 2: was just like, who's going to get cruise? I want

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Speaker 2: Cruso on the sixers like cruises, Like he shot forty

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Speaker 2: percent from three last year. Superducer Jabari is pointing out

444
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Speaker 2: and shot a lot, like made almost two threes a game,

445
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Speaker 2: so you know he will knock them down if you

446
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Speaker 2: give them to him. So not an offensive minus the

447
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Speaker 2: rebounding like Hardenstein is a great addition, but it does

448
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Speaker 2: feel like maybe we need a little bit more because

449
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Speaker 2: that was, you know, having some interest in their winning,

450
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Speaker 2: Like that was the thing that was hard to watch

451
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Speaker 2: in the in the Maverick series is just like the

452
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Speaker 2: complete lack of rebounding was tough. So, I mean, maybe

453
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Speaker 2: check gets a little bit better, but maybe they can

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Speaker 2: give Heart and Stun some help.

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Speaker 6: There's a difference between rebounding from the five, which is

456
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Speaker 6: where Chack was trying to rebound from last year, and

457
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Speaker 6: then rebounding from the four, which is where he'll be

458
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Speaker 6: rebounding a lot from last year. There's a difference between

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Speaker 6: from from Jaylen Williams having to rebound from the four

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Speaker 6: to rebounding from the three. Yeah, the difference between lou

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Speaker 6: Dort having to rebound from the three and rebounding from

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Speaker 6: the two. You see, like they were just so under

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Speaker 6: size at every position. And Hartenstein the bowling ball sequence,

464
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Speaker 6: you know how like you knock one thin down and all.

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Speaker 4: The things get knocked down chain reaction.

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Speaker 6: The chain reaction is that it puts everybody physically in

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Speaker 6: their right spot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, So it sounds like you're going with the over

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Speaker 1: based on that.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I feel like the women, what's their win

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Speaker 5: set up, fifty.

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Speaker 1: Six and a half. They won fifty seven last year,

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Speaker 1: so it's standard.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they'll be fine.

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Speaker 4: I'm not going with the over, like they'll probably be

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Speaker 4: the same, you know.

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Speaker 5: So I mean that would technically that would be.

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Speaker 1: The over if it's yeah, you know, just the safe bet.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, yeah, I think I'm I'm really excited

481
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Speaker 1: for them, and I think, yeah, those two editions had

482
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Speaker 1: me just what wondering how they do it, how they

483
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Speaker 1: just make the right moves to improve their team. Now

484
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Speaker 1: the Wolves, now this is an interesting one.

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Speaker 2: You know, as somebody who pays a lot of attention

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Speaker 2: to the Knicks, I'm intesting it was good to get

487
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Speaker 2: your heart and stein take, and it was kind of

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Speaker 2: in line with what I would have expected. The Wolves

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Speaker 2: are now getting a couple of your Knicks. I'm curious

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Speaker 2: to get your thoughts here, because yeah, I feel like

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Speaker 2: they're going to be maybe worse. I feel like the

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Speaker 2: Knicks got the better end of that trade. What do

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Speaker 2: you guys think?

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Speaker 6: Do you want my pessimistic Julius Randall take first, or

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Speaker 6: my optimist Julius Randall take first? Relative to the Minnesota Timberwolves.

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Speaker 5: Let's go optimistic first.

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Speaker 1: I think there's I think many people are in the

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Speaker 1: pessimistic zone, so I'd love to optimism.

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Speaker 6: The optimistic Julius Randall take is that by the end

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Speaker 6: of the playoffs last year, Anthony Edwards was the only

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Speaker 6: ball in hand guy that they had. He was the

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Speaker 6: only guy with the ball in his hands against Dallas

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Speaker 6: that was capable of creating advantage basketball. And Julius Randall

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Speaker 6: gives Minnesota one more guy that can create a Vanish

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Speaker 6: basketball in the playoff setting with the ball in his hands.

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Speaker 6: So from that perspective, I think that Julius Randall helps

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Speaker 6: Minnesota morning Cat because you can put the ball in

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Speaker 6: his hands on the other side of the floor that

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Speaker 6: Anthony Edwards is, and you can say, go and create

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Speaker 6: a bucket. Go and get this bucket against the defense

511
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Speaker 6: that's stacked. And you know, he can make tough shots.

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Speaker 6: He can make difficult shots. Now they're going to be

513
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Speaker 6: difficult too's, and they're going to be difficult eighteen footers,

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Speaker 6: but he can make them, and he can he can

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Speaker 6: create advantage basketball in demand coverage, and Edwards was the

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Speaker 6: only guy by the end of the playoffs last year

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Speaker 6: that could do that.

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Speaker 4: It went a long way to leading towards their demids.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so that's the optimistic take. Sounds like you're

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Speaker 2: an over we can just move on.

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Speaker 4: That definitely customs take. It's definitely a pessive.

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Speaker 2: I was, I was on board, and I mean, from

523
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Speaker 2: what I'm seeing on Timberwolves Reddit, Dante DiVincenzo is the

524
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Speaker 2: greatest three point shooter, including Steph Curry, in the history

525
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Speaker 2: of the NBA. So I think we're good here.

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Speaker 4: Dante's a good addition.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Julius Randall's going to compromise their spacing because Kat

528
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Speaker 6: gave them a lot of spacing at the four, Julius

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Speaker 6: doesn't offer that space. Seeing Julius needs the ball in

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Speaker 6: his hands as good as he is with the ball

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Speaker 6: in his hands, and he's definitely gonna have to balance

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Speaker 6: that with Anthony Edwards needing the ball in his hands.

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Speaker 6: And on top of that, Julius doesn't defend, or he

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Speaker 6: hasn't defended in the past. And on top of that,

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Speaker 6: I mean, I just don't know the fittest clunky. So

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Speaker 6: we're just gonna have to see how it works out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they won fifty six last year. This year they

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Speaker 2: have him going fifty two and a half. So again,

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Speaker 2: skeptical about that half a win, but you know they

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Speaker 2: Vegas lads four fifty four. We're over on the walls.

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Speaker 5: All right, just slightly, just a bit, just to.

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Speaker 2: Slate over fit. This next one is kind of one

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Speaker 2: of the ones that I'm a little surprised at how

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Speaker 2: much they have your Denver Nuggets falling off from fifty

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Speaker 2: seven wins to fifty point five wins this season. Six

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Speaker 2: point five win drop off after losing KCP. Basically, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: what are your thoughts.

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Speaker 4: I think that they're reacting to Westbrook more than KCP.

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Speaker 2: Do you think subtraction by addition?

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Speaker 4: I mean I would think so. Listen.

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Speaker 6: I just wrote a story on Christian Brown and Julian

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Speaker 6: Strather relative to the open shooting card position.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what to think. Like.

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Speaker 6: On one hand, I think Christian Brown is bigger THANKCP.

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Speaker 6: He's more athletic. I think he's ready to be a starter.

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Speaker 6: I think that Denver can really really use that athleticism

557
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Speaker 6: and they can use the physical size for the position.

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Speaker 6: On the other hand, he's going to have to prove

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Speaker 6: that he can shoot it or it's going to wreck

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Speaker 6: the spacing offensively, not reck it, but it's going to

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Speaker 6: compromise it a little bit. And you already have Westbrook,

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Speaker 6: so that compromises the spacing a little bit on the

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Speaker 6: second unit. I'm not nearly as down on Denver as

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Speaker 6: people seem to be. I think that the ceiling for

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Speaker 6: the Nuggets this year is still winning the NBA Championship.

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Speaker 6: Like I think, if everything goes right for the Nuggets,

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Speaker 6: I think that they can win an NBA championship. I

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Speaker 6: think in the Western Conference, I think that Oklahoma City

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Speaker 6: is on its own tier, but they're not so far

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Speaker 6: above the West that they can't be beaten. They can

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Speaker 6: still be beaten. And then in the next tier, I

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Speaker 6: think you have Denver, Minnesota in Dallas. And I thought

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Speaker 6: going into the playoffs last year, I thought that that

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Speaker 6: was the tier system, and I thought any one of

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Speaker 6: those four or five teams come out of the West

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Speaker 6: and win a championship. And I still think that that's

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Speaker 6: the case. And I think that if you have Nicola Jokic,

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Speaker 6: he's the best player in the league, he's in his prime,

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Speaker 6: then you have a chance to win a title. And

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Speaker 6: I think that Denver has a chance to win the title.

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Speaker 1: Okay said, you said that the fall and losses might

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Speaker 1: be less KCP and more Brody coming in. I saw

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Speaker 1: when I was watching him his first game and he

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Speaker 1: came in and just shot a three.

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Speaker 5: Immediately I was like, oo and he made it.

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, okay, okay that I had a

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Speaker 1: bit of I.

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Speaker 4: Don't want to go in because if he makes that

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Speaker 4: define what happened.

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Speaker 1: That's so my question to you is, how do you

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Speaker 1: see this fit? Because it felt like, you know, was

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Speaker 1: it really like Jokich who was like, you know, I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't mind playing with Russell Westbrook.

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Speaker 4: I know there were no campaigned for that.

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Speaker 1: Right Okay, So now seeing this, what is your is

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Speaker 1: this like is this the right fit?

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Speaker 5: I mean, he's is this finally?

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Speaker 1: Do you think Russell Westbrook has maybe found his basketball

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Speaker 1: home in Denver?

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Speaker 6: Denver that's really needed somebody that could that could generate

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Speaker 6: rim pressure last year, right, and Russell Westbrook, if he

602
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Speaker 6: can do nothing else on the basketball court, he can

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Speaker 6: generate rim pressure. So from that standpoint, it's a good fit.

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Speaker 6: And from the standpoint if he's going to be able

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Speaker 6: to get out and run and push those other guys

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Speaker 6: to get out and run with him, that's a good fit.

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Speaker 6: From the standpoint of two years ago, Bruce Brown, you

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Speaker 6: know he was a master.

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Speaker 4: Trash talker, right, and Denver kind of missed that last year.

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Speaker 6: They missed having that one guy who was just out

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Speaker 6: there kind of crashing out on the floor.

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Speaker 4: Right right, And you know, Russell Westbrook is good for that.

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Speaker 6: So it's funny because I kind of asked around and

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Speaker 6: Denver kind of denies it. But it feels like, just

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Speaker 6: from a different perspective, just a different position, I feel

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Speaker 6: like Denver's trying to recreate the Bruce Brown effect with

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Speaker 6: Russell Westbrook. It's just that Bruce Brown was playing the

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Speaker 6: three and Russell Westbrook plays the one. But like Bruce Brown,

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Speaker 6: you know, when they won the championship in twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 6: there are a lot of times when he was running

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Speaker 6: the team while Jamal Murray was playing off the ball.

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Speaker 6: Last year, there was nobody that could run the team

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Speaker 6: and have Jamal Murray, you know, play off the ball.

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Speaker 6: So I just think that like they're just trying to

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Speaker 6: recreate a lot of what Bruce Brown brought to that

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Speaker 6: championship team by bringing in Russ And you know, we'll

627
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Speaker 6: see if it works. But I don't hate to fit

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Speaker 6: as much as people seem to hate it, because I think,

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Speaker 6: unlike the Lakers, unlike the Clippers, you know Denver has

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Speaker 6: an opening on its roster for what Russell provides, like

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Speaker 6: because you're not going to give Russell Westbrook the basketball

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Speaker 6: over Lebron James because Lebron James is probably your best

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Speaker 6: player ever to live. And you're not going to give

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Speaker 6: Russell Westbrook the basketball over James Harden or Paul George

635
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Speaker 6: or Kawhi Leonard because those guys are better than Russell's.

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Speaker 6: So if you have Russell played in non Yokish minutes,

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Speaker 6: you haven't played the minutes that Jokis is not on

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Speaker 6: the floor.

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Speaker 4: You haven't played with Jamal Murray.

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Speaker 6: He can come out and do what he does best

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Speaker 6: for fifteen minutes a night, but he's got fifteen minutes

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Speaker 6: a night, can't be thirty.

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Speaker 2: I feel like that motor will come in handy in

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Speaker 2: the altitude too. You know that'll be an advantage. All right,

645
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Speaker 2: last two teams we got, oh, we got your Utah Jazz. Yeah,

646
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Speaker 2: who won thirty one last year, expected to win twenty

647
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Speaker 2: eight and a half this year. And you are Portland

648
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Speaker 2: Trailblazers twenty one last year. And Vegas sees big things

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Speaker 2: for this team because I have them rocketing from twenty

650
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Speaker 2: one wins last year to twenty one point five wins

651
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Speaker 2: per FanDuel this year. I think these are convenient teams

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Speaker 2: for other teams win over unders. Do you see either

653
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Speaker 2: of these teams taking a significant leap in either direction?

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Speaker 2: Either of you guys? What are you thinking?

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Speaker 6: How many wins do you think the Utah Jazz have

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Speaker 6: if they play Collin Sexon Lowry marketing and Jordan Clarkson

657
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Speaker 6: thirty three minutes a game every night?

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Speaker 2: Who you know? It's a question I ask myself every day.

659
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Speaker 2: Probably probably like thirty one again, thirty two, and say

660
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Speaker 2: like not more than what we've seen.

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Speaker 6: Probably, Okay, I think the I think the Jazz want

662
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 6: to go twenty three and fifty nine this year.

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Speaker 2: Oh uh, huh? You think they want to They want

664
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Speaker 2: to get in that flag territory.

665
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Speaker 4: I think your flag ship draft pick.

666
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Speaker 6: If you gave them all truth serum and said hey,

667
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 6: this is your over runner thirty one and fifty one,

668
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 6: they're gonna be like that's too much.

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Speaker 2: Too high. We would be unhappy with them.

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Speaker 6: We are unhappy with that. We need to lose eight

671
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Speaker 6: more right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. I do want to just give a

673
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Speaker 2: shout out to Miles and I have the pleasure of

674
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 2: hanging out with a Blazers fan this week. Yeah, the

675
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 2: partner of one of our producers, and the optimism of

676
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 2: this fan base, Like we were like, oh, Blazers fan, okay.

677
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 2: They were like, yeah, I feel great about our team

678
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 2: this year, Like it's gonna be fun. Yeah, it's be

679
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 2: so fun. Like it was just they are and also

680
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 2: they've already taken it for granted that they're getting Cooper

681
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 2: flag in Portland apparently, but it's just it is the

682
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 2: photographic negative of a Sixers fan. They love their team,

683
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 2: they love being fan of their team.

684
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 5: They love the process.

685
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 2: Super producer Jabbari was like, blessed their heart. But I

686
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 2: feel like and that that's kind of my initial reaction,

687
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 2: but I feel like they are right. They're like, I'm

688
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 2: going to enjoy being a fan of this team that

689
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 2: is in my town and plays hard every night to

690
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Speaker 2: entertain me. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It was like a pure form of fandom that hasn't

692
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: been like someone who isn't jaded, who is pretty being

693
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: objective about what the expectations are. So it's just like, yeah,

694
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: but the ones we win, those will be fun and

695
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: we probably won't get terribly blown out. And I'm like, Wow,

696
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: I'm like looking at myself in the mirror, I'm like, man,

697
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: I have I have fallen so far into the abyss.

698
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 2: I aspire to be a Blasers fan, like seventy six

699
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 2: ers fan this year.

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm for, first of all, the two things.

701
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Speaker 4: First of all, I think the seventy six is going

702
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 4: to be very, very good.

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Speaker 2: I love to hear that.

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Speaker 4: Well, as long as Paul and Joel stayed out.

705
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Speaker 2: Right, as long as which I think we can take

706
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 2: for granted and move forward from there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, eighty two, both of them.

708
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 2: Eighty two.

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Speaker 5: Yes, love it.

710
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 4: They have a level of depth.

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00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 6: I think they need another big like I really think

712
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 6: they need another big Sixers.

713
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah.

714
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 4: But I also think Tyrese Maxie is a monster.

715
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, the cutest little monster, like literally literally.

716
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I don't know, it's Halloween season.

717
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

718
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 2: I can't just say someone's a monster without me thinking, wait,

719
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 2: like Jackson, he's a Dracula, He's okay.

720
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: But if I'm a Portland fan, I just want one thing.

722
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 6: There's only one thing I want, the only thing I want.

723
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Speaker 6: If I'm a Portland fan, I don't care about the

724
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 6: wins and losses. I just want Scoot Henderson to prove

725
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 6: to me that he is worthy of the number three

726
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 6: pick in the draft, and because last year was not it,

727
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 6: and I just want I need him to pop this year.

728
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I would love that.

729
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 1: Where do you see his potential at? I mean, granted

730
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Speaker 1: what you saw in year one, I guess you need

731
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Speaker 1: to see more to really fully assess, like where does

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Speaker 1: this thing stop more at.

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Speaker 4: Well, there was a couple of things.

734
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Speaker 6: I thought that he was an e leite athlete by

735
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 6: NBA standards, and he wasn't last year. Like I thought

736
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 6: he was going to come into the league and he

737
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 6: would be from a point guard spot. I thought his

738
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 6: athleticism would remind me of Russell Westbrook, Derek Rose, you know,

739
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 6: John Morant, that kind of athleticism. And it was just

740
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 6: a good athleticism. It wasn't eye popping athletics. It was

741
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 6: like it was good, like he was a good athlete.

742
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 6: It wasn't eye popping. Second ball, He's got to learn

743
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 6: how to shoot, and I do think that he got

744
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 6: better towards the end of the year. But like the

745
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 6: only thing that matters to me if I'm a Portland fan,

746
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 6: this year is that he pops.

747
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, everything else will fall into place.

748
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, everything else fall into place, just like the Trailblazers

749
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:11,720
Speaker 6: fans believe.

750
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

751
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I feel pretty good. I feel like this

752
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 2: is like, even when we lose, we don't lose that bad,

753
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 2: so it's like fun to watch the games. Was one

754
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 2: of the things that he said. I love that. Man.

755
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 6: Get Donovan clinging in rotation, playing thirty five minutes a night, right,

756
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 6: you know he's he's gonna take his lumps, But just

757
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 6: play scoot Donovan kling in all of the minutes, figure

758
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 6: out what you're gonna do with Anthony Simons and lose

759
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 6: a lot, and hopefully Cooper Flag is on your team

760
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 6: next year.

761
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go.

762
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 5: Well, we shall see.

763
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 1: The season gets underweight very soon, so we can start

764
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: putting these theories to the test. But in the meantime,

765
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break. We're gonna come back and

766
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 1: wrap this thing out with the fourth quarter rapid fire

767
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: round of questions with Tony Jones right after.

768
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 7: This, and we're back.

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Speaker 1: Tony Jones. We love having you on. You know, it's

770
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: always great having you on. You're a great person. We

771
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: love your energy, we love your overall just just coming

772
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: here and blessing us with your wide range of knowledge

773
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: and experience as a journalist.

774
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 5: But this is the.

775
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: Time where we grill you in the hot seat. This

776
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 1: is the fourth quarter rapid fire round questioning. You've done

777
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 1: this before. You know what time it is. We ask

778
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: you a question, you just respond rapidly, no thinking, just

779
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: go just straight from the heart. Okay, because we have

780
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: to maintain our title as the fastest question answer a

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00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 1: segment in all podcasting history.

782
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 5: Tony Jones, are you ready?

783
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 4: I am ready?

784
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 5: Okay, Well guess well, Bryan, start the clock. This is

785
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 5: gonna be good. This is gonna be good.

786
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Speaker 1: Tony, are gonna come at you real quick, and I'm

787
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 1: gonna go first. Tony Jones, you can sit court sided

788
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: either of the opening night games. I have a feeling

789
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: I know how you're going to answer this, but you

790
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: are either heading to Boston to see them take on

791
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: the Knicks or to La to see the new look Wolves.

792
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 5: You're going to Boston or are you going to La?

793
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 4: Ah?

794
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 6: Ben, just get me Boston, Baby, get me Boston.

795
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 5: Boston, basting Bro. Yeah, take me to Beantown, Bro. I

796
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 5: want to see these Knicks.

797
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 2: And you know you have to actually like go to

798
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 2: Boston right to for this thah, like you have to

799
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 2: be in the city of Boston. All right, No, I

800
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 2: just wanted to make sure that's interesting.

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Speaker 5: I mean I'm guessing yeah. I mean even for me

802
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 5: as like a Laker fan, I am so in on

803
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 5: the Knicks.

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00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, please, please, please de throw this up, please anything?

805
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 2: All right. So we're playing pickup basketball. We've been giving

806
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 2: people the second pick in a pickup game with presidents,

807
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 2: but we're gonna move on. Now we're playing pickup basketball

808
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 2: with actors. We just got the first pick and took

809
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 2: my favorite actor, Anthony Edwards. Unfortunately, we instituted a rule

810
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 2: immediately after that says nobody else is allowed to draft

811
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 2: anybody who has ever played professional ball. So you have

812
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 2: the next pick. So that's the good news. Unfortunately, bad

813
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: news is it cannot be anybody who has ever played

814
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 2: professional basketball, but they have to have appeared in a

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00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 2: major motion picture. Who are you taking?

816
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 4: Denzel Washington?

817
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 6: Denzel Denzel played on the JV team at Fordham and

818
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 6: he was supposed to get as the script and he

819
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 6: got gang. He was supposed to be shut out by

820
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Speaker 6: Jesus Shuttlesworth, and he went to Spike Lee and was like,

821
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Speaker 6: I'm not being shut out, No way, I'm getting buckets.

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Speaker 2: There's something it just doesn't feel right against ray Allen.

823
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Speaker 6: That was supposed that was supposed to be like eleven

824
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Speaker 6: nothing by the script, and Denzel went, Denzel, this is

825
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 6: a true story. Denzel went to Spy and was like, no,

826
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 6: I'm scoring and just that that game.

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Speaker 4: If you look at the movie, that game.

828
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 6: Was like, you know, at one point it was like

829
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 6: four to four before ray Allen's character finally took over

830
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 6: the game.

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00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow, I mean his jumper did not look pretty,

832
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 2: but it had a high release and it.

833
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 4: And it was going and off the backboard from three

834
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 4: point range.

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00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 5: I know, hey using the square efficiently.

836
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 2: So so you're telling me that game was like a

837
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 2: real game him versus Jesus.

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Speaker 6: Shuttle b By the script, it was supposed to be

839
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Speaker 6: eleven nothing.

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00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 4: Right.

841
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 2: Wow, that's actually I like that ending better. Unfortunately, I

842
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 2: like that ending better. It's like this big climactic moment

843
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 2: and then he just eleven nothing.

844
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Speaker 1: Man, come on, that's kind of funny.

845
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 5: And I just bought these new Jordans too, please, They're

846
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 5: so clean.

847
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 4: Now I have to go back.

848
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, well great.

849
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 2: Senior, Yeah you got you got the two. We actually

850
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 2: only had time for two rapid fires. It was a

851
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 2: quick double tap and you got them both correct.

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00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 1: That would be wild though if we didn't change the rules, though,

853
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: you think about everybody else. You could have picked just

854
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: brushed up against the silver screen, which would have been

855
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: like Jordan's bird Shack and Kevin Garnett.

856
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 4: We could incredibly picked Adam Sandler as well.

857
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, hoop a little bit.

858
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I don't think he like played.

859
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: I think he's just like a legendary, like very good

860
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 2: for being a weekend Warrior. But I don't think he

861
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 2: like played college hoops or anything.

862
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 2: In fact, I think he was on SNL when most

864
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 2: other people were in college, so he went he went

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Speaker 2: pro early in that respect.

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Speaker 5: Right, all right, Jones mass like, what a pleasure you

867
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Speaker 5: aced the test?

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00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 5: Now it's time to tell the people.

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Speaker 1: First of all, thank you for joining us again on

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Speaker 1: Mouse and Jack on mad Boosti's where did the people

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00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,839
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Speaker 6: the Athletic. Yeah, I subscribe, subscribe, and I am on

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Speaker 6: T Jones at the NBA on Twitter, I am on

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00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 6: T Jones Athletic on Instagram, and don't follow me on

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Speaker 6: Facebook because, as my daughter said, nobody reads Facebook anymore.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, people of a certain age. That's rich and we

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Speaker 5: respect our elders.

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Speaker 2: I am on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien.

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Speaker 1: That's right, And you can follow the hashtag mad boostis

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Speaker 7: And then that's also how you can get info on

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Speaker 7: how to join our Discord server.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to our discord mob Paul Garaventa, who's.

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Speaker 5: Also a Blazers fan with part of gold. All right, well,

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Speaker 5: that's going to do it for us this week.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back next week with even more boosties that

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Speaker 1: will be even madder than before.

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Speaker 5: All right, talk soon

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