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<v Speaker 1>Help We Suck At Being Newlyweds Miller Key and Jared

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<v Speaker 1>Haven an iHeartRadio podcast. Hey, welcome to an whole new

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<v Speaker 1>episode of Help We Suck At Being Newlyweds? Still in

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<v Speaker 1>the works on that one teen Kaylin joining us on

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<v Speaker 1>this special special episode of help by Sucker dating you

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<v Speaker 1>don't Oh Jesus, Help by Sucker. We've been what's the

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<v Speaker 1>name this podcast? Help We Suck At Being Newlyweds? It's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take a little time. It takes me three years

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<v Speaker 1>just to remember anything. So we have a very special episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Two episodes this week. This is the second. First one

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<v Speaker 1>was with Emily Ferguson or Emily uh Carlson. Did we

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<v Speaker 1>find out if she changed her last name? She did

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<v Speaker 1>to carl say, so it's Emily Carlson, which is so crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>So eighty six that's a restaurant term means no more

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<v Speaker 1>Goodbye to the Fergie Twins. That's so sad. No more

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<v Speaker 1>Fergie Twins. So weird. But it was a good run.

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<v Speaker 1>They were on Paradise many times. They had their own show.

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<v Speaker 1>Great run. But this episode is going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>Q and A. We asked you some questions on Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>because we just started doing this podcast. Kalin is obviously

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<v Speaker 1>on here as the new co host. She's amazing. I

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<v Speaker 1>know that you have a lot of questions for her

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<v Speaker 1>for the podcast moving forward, so let's get it going.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the first question, Kaylin. This one is gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>for you, Kaylin. What makes you nervous about becoming a

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<v Speaker 1>mother someday? We just talked to Emily about being a mother.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about Ashley being a mother all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>So what are some things that you're nervous about. What

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<v Speaker 1>are some of your fears going into motherhood. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the one thing holding me back from kids, not that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready now, but you know, in the future, is childbirth.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just nothing about it excites me. I'm not good

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<v Speaker 1>at pain. My pain tolerance is low, so it really

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<v Speaker 1>freaks me out. But I just got dinner with one

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<v Speaker 1>of my girlfriends and she said that giving like birth

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<v Speaker 1>and her child childbirth was like the most fun experience

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<v Speaker 1>of her life. So that gave me some hope the

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<v Speaker 1>entire pregnancy or just giving birth. Just giving birth was

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<v Speaker 1>the most fun experience ever. She's like, it was like

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<v Speaker 1>a party, and I've never heard that, So I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna if we do eventually have children, go into it

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<v Speaker 1>with that mindset and hope I'm the same. What kind

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<v Speaker 1>of hospital did she go to? It sounds like a

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<v Speaker 1>great fun hospital party, I know. So that's definitely my

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<v Speaker 1>biggest fear. Also, like your body changing is scary and

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<v Speaker 1>all of the things that your body has to go

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<v Speaker 1>through to like adapt to have a child, and like

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<v Speaker 1>the sickness. It just people sometimes emphasize the bad side

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<v Speaker 1>of being pregnant, and I think that's what I've kind

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<v Speaker 1>of been focusing on. Yeah, it's it's not easy seeing

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<v Speaker 1>from you know, up close and personal, Ashley going through

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta call up question if that's okay? Yeah, go Klan.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like the only fears that you have about

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<v Speaker 1>having a child comes in the pre child of phases,

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<v Speaker 1>though right I'm wrong, I'm thinking that. Yeah, there are

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<v Speaker 1>actually a lot of fears that come after that too,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's like the one that's front in my mind

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<v Speaker 1>right now. But yeah, obviously, like messing up your kid

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<v Speaker 1>is scary, and like what if I'm a bad mom.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's funny because like when you're growing up, you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like your parents can like protect you at all costs,

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<v Speaker 1>they know everything, and then the older you get, you

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<v Speaker 1>realize they have no idea what they're doing and how

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<v Speaker 1>many ways you can screw up a kid. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>just a whole other there are many fears that go

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<v Speaker 1>along with that as well. So I answer your question,

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<v Speaker 1>it does, it does. I was just curious because you

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<v Speaker 1>focus on the whole pregnancy thing, which I know is

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<v Speaker 1>a big thing for any girl to go through. But

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<v Speaker 1>I was just curious if there's any post pregnancy concerns

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<v Speaker 1>that you had, you know, oh, yeah, even more. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It is funny when you talk about pregnancy because then

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<v Speaker 1>after you give birth, you're like, Okay, now I have

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<v Speaker 1>to raise a child. You know, just doesn't stop. We

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<v Speaker 1>were actually talking last night, Ashley and I just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of talking in a whim. I was like, if you

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<v Speaker 1>even had the choice, like, say, we could get you

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<v Speaker 1>a surrogate, and you like, it didn't cost us money

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, like you just had the choice of getting

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<v Speaker 1>a surrogate for the second kid or not, would you

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<v Speaker 1>want to do it? And I was under the impression.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I don't think she would anymore. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>before we had Dawson, she was, of course like Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm definitely gonna surrogate. And now I'm curious if given

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<v Speaker 1>the choice and everything worked out, she is kind of like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think she would, just because of the bond

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<v Speaker 1>that she has with Dawson and him growing in her belly.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that obviously just makes it feel a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more special. I don't really know, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>just we talked about the pregnant state, everything like that that

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<v Speaker 1>was an interesting conversation. So Dean, this question is for you,

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<v Speaker 1>piggybacking off that will starting a family affect you traveling?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think it will make you stop or cut back?

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny actually that this was asked because I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like Kitlan and I just had a conversation recently about this.

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<v Speaker 1>I personally don't think it. I think come like your

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<v Speaker 1>immediate thought is, yes, it's going to change the way

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<v Speaker 1>that I travel, and I think it definitely would in

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<v Speaker 1>some ways. But I would be happy to have a

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<v Speaker 1>little baby with me on every adventure that I go on.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like, imagine bringing a baby in Artica. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that'd be awesome. We did have this conversation on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast that's crazy. Yeah, imagine bringing a baby to

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<v Speaker 1>the top of Sarah Torre or up to the top

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<v Speaker 1>amount Everest. You know that baby is going to touch

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<v Speaker 1>the highest point on Earth before he turns three. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that'd be an awesome achievement for him to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to do so. I do then think that there

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<v Speaker 1>are ways to travel with a baby. You know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of like van people that I follow on

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram that have children and they find a way to

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<v Speaker 1>make it work. I think that you don't necessarily have

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<v Speaker 1>to lose your travel bug if you have a baby.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's ways that you can find to make

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<v Speaker 1>it work. I think there's like baby safe adventures we

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<v Speaker 1>could go on, Like our neighbor that lives in a

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<v Speaker 1>van two in Vegas. I just saw there set up

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<v Speaker 1>for like camping with the baby, and it looked pretty fun. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, of course, you see the highlight reel on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably not as glamorous as it like I. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I love being in the van by myself, and when

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<v Speaker 1>you joined me in the van, it adds to my stress.

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<v Speaker 1>And then if we had a baby in the van

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<v Speaker 1>with us too, I could only imagine how much more

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<v Speaker 1>stressful and messy that van would look, but you just

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<v Speaker 1>find a way to adapt and make it suitable for

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<v Speaker 1>all three people, as I'm working on doing with just

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<v Speaker 1>the two of us in the van. So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily think I would travel I would travel less, but

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't travel significantly less, you know, Yeah, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody asks, how can I feel confident when meeting a

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<v Speaker 1>significant others friends? This is pretty intimidated to me. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>just be I It's the stupidest thing I'm ever gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say in my entire life, But just be yourself. But

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<v Speaker 1>be a good version of yourself. You know, Like I'd

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<v Speaker 1>probably say, stay away from any racy or dirty jokes.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you don't want to like offend anybody too

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<v Speaker 1>early on until you're comfortable with them. So of course

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<v Speaker 1>I would say the biggest thing is just be show

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<v Speaker 1>that you're putting effort. I think that's really it. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>we actually got dinner with so. We had Nate and

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<v Speaker 1>Rodney here for a meet and greet on Saturday at Audrey's,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we went to dinner with Jill and her

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<v Speaker 1>new boyfriend Jill from Bachelor Bachelor in Paradise and her

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<v Speaker 1>new boyfriend's great and I felt bad because he was

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<v Speaker 1>just like, Hey, you're gonna meet Jared and Ashley and

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<v Speaker 1>then these two guys from Bachelor for the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>We're all going to get dinner. So he got a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of got thrown in there, but he was great,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he definitely like was trying to insert himself in

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation. He was actively listening, and then even though

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't speak a lot, it was very sweet to

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<v Speaker 1>say like, oh, like, it just shows that you were

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<v Speaker 1>like at least trying to be personal while meeting Chill's friends.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that goes a long way. So just

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<v Speaker 1>as long as you don't act indifferent, you'll be fine. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And if they, I mean, your significant other likes you

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<v Speaker 1>and she or he likes their friends, obviously, just be

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<v Speaker 1>yourself and it should be fine. Yeah. I like how

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<v Speaker 1>Jared's advice was to not say anything racy or like Ronchi,

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<v Speaker 1>And I was just imagining every time I meet any

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<v Speaker 1>of Kaylin's friends, that's like the very first thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I do is I put my foot in my mouth,

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<v Speaker 1>not like intentionally, but like you know, I mean, how

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<v Speaker 1>many stories do we have of me meeting any of

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<v Speaker 1>your friends? And then you make fun of me the

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<v Speaker 1>next day for do you remember asking this question or

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<v Speaker 1>saying this? Oh my god, I know you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>That was one instance when you had too much to drink.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you say it on air or is it? No? No,

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<v Speaker 1>it was. I mean it was funny, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>like a little inappropriate. But that's my point exactly, is

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<v Speaker 1>that sometimes my mind goes to a dark place and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, I know, like I got something that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna kill and then I say it and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we're just not on that level, are we.

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<v Speaker 1>I only met you five years ago. Sorry about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I woke up in the morning and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>big smile on my face, like, Kaylin, I was pretty

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<v Speaker 1>funny last night, wasn't I as crushing it? And she

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<v Speaker 1>was like, no, do you remember remember the questions you

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<v Speaker 1>were asking? And I was like yeah, I'm pretty sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Kaylyn repeated them to me and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>hearing you say them makes me realize how stupid eyes

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<v Speaker 1>must have said. So it was fun. I just think

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you be yourself, be goofy. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Kaylin, what's your advice because you've had

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<v Speaker 1>to meet a lot of my friends obviously, So what

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<v Speaker 1>what is your approach to that? I mean, yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty nervous. The second we got off Paradise, we

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<v Speaker 1>flew to San Diego, picked up your van, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I met twenty of your friends and that was pretty

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<v Speaker 1>nerve wracking. Um yeah, but and I'm I'm also very shy,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm better in groups of like one or two

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<v Speaker 1>people versus like twenty. But um, you know, a beer helped,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just started playing whatever drinking games they were

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<v Speaker 1>playing and tried to tried to act like I wasn't nervous.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, yeah, it's gonna be one of the boys, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Who are they playing? They're they're They're playing King's Cup

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that. That was funny. There was like

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<v Speaker 1>twenty of them. They were down there for like a

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<v Speaker 1>golf trip, so they were all like wasted and smelly,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we had known each other for like a

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<v Speaker 1>week at that point. That was a pretty funny experience.

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<v Speaker 1>But we went over there to shower because we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have a shower in the van. Did we even end

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<v Speaker 1>up showering? I don't remember showering there. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>you did I think it was like too messy and

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<v Speaker 1>we left. Yeah, that's funny. All right, what else? Let's

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<v Speaker 1>see if I want to ask you guys a question,

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<v Speaker 1>it's my turn now, but I gotta pull up the list. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>here we go. Jared, did you think that Kaylin and

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<v Speaker 1>I would get engaged when we first started dating? Um? Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a great question. I think it's okay if it's no. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess no because of Dean, Because you know, for

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<v Speaker 1>the longest time, you've always talked about how you're non

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<v Speaker 1>traditional and you didn't see yourself getting engaged or getting married,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was just kind of who you were. And then,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a special right before Paradise, you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>have to put yourself back in that spot you were.

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<v Speaker 1>You just bought the van, you know, you grew the mustache.

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<v Speaker 1>You were, I mean, going down a very different path

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<v Speaker 1>of settling down. And then you got asked to go

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<v Speaker 1>on Bachelor in Paradise, and then you were going back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth whether you wanted to do it, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you said you were going to do it. But you're

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna go there and be honest and be like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just a dude living in a a Van and then

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<v Speaker 1>you met Kaylin and then obviously everything changed after that,

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<v Speaker 1>so I guess probably, I mean, god, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>a timetable, but once you guys started dating for months

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<v Speaker 1>and it was very clear that it was a serious relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>then yeah, I always thought that Kaylin would definitely convince

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<v Speaker 1>you to get engaged, and then ultimately that's exactly what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Not convince you to get engaged because you were against

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was more like you were going to

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<v Speaker 1>realize how important Kaylin was to you and that you'd

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<v Speaker 1>want to take that step for her. That's how I

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<v Speaker 1>phrase it when I say, you know, Calin was going

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<v Speaker 1>to convince you to get engaged. Yeah, Calin really had

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<v Speaker 1>to put a gun to my head to make me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, pull pull the trigger on that metaphorical to

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<v Speaker 1>make it go on that hellish, hellish hike. Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Dean and Jared, what were your first impressions of each other, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's think about the first time that we met each other. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>my first impressions of Dean were from Bachelorette and Paradise,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course I thought what everybody else thought was

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<v Speaker 1>that this guy is definitely an f boy. Like not

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<v Speaker 1>from bad because well, also, Dean, you were you're obviously

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<v Speaker 1>so good looking now, but when you were back then,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like you had the hair and like the tan,

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<v Speaker 1>and you were so sweet and tongue looking. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>like this guy is definitely he like collects toenails in

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<v Speaker 1>his closet. There's no way anybody is this perfect, Like

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<v Speaker 1>this is impossible, It's impossible. I know I've gone down

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<v Speaker 1>the hill since then, for sure. I disagree. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you've gone uphill since then. But I guess my first well,

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<v Speaker 1>when did we meet? That's what I'm I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>remember when we first met. Do we meet at Nick's

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<v Speaker 1>apartment or you're you'res in Kni's apartment. I guess maybe, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember the first time we met. It's so

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<v Speaker 1>funny how um this podcast came together, because I remember

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<v Speaker 1>you were doing you were doing the podcast, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you were taking like a hiatus, and then I think

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<v Speaker 1>they were debating adding a co host. And I still

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<v Speaker 1>don't to this day. I don't know how I got chosen,

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<v Speaker 1>but I got super lucky. Wait, so before you joined,

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<v Speaker 1>you hadn't met Dean. No, I did? Oh, we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know each other that well. We had like barely known

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<v Speaker 1>each other. I think we met when we when you

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<v Speaker 1>were living with Nick, and Nick got the idea or

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<v Speaker 1>you got the idea, whoever it was, to film those

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<v Speaker 1>bad Chiller episodes, and like, that's kind of when we

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<v Speaker 1>hung out. Actually, if you thought that was my idea,

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<v Speaker 1>get the hell out of here. You know that on

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<v Speaker 1>that I disagree with it. I just I didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>you to have thought of it and may not give

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<v Speaker 1>you any potential credit. Okay, So that's when that very soon.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when we at least hung out a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 1>My first impression of Jared was Okay, he's obviously very handsome,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot shorter, a lot shorter than I expected him

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<v Speaker 1>to be. Um and uh, very smart about very specific things.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was the thing that really stuck out

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<v Speaker 1>to me was your like movie catalog in your head

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<v Speaker 1>was like so vast and I was like, damn, how

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<v Speaker 1>does one person know that much about one topic? And

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<v Speaker 1>I was really impressed by that. It's so pathetic. I

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<v Speaker 1>felt bad. There was a girl that came in to

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<v Speaker 1>Audrey's like three weeks ago, and she was wearing a

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Myer's shirt Halloween T shirt, and I figured that

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<v Speaker 1>she must be a big Halloween fan to come in

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<v Speaker 1>and wear a Michael Myer's shirt. So it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a Halloween fan, and she goes, oh love Halloween.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Michael Myers. So then I start going for

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<v Speaker 1>like fifteen minutes on this like, oh, you know the

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<v Speaker 1>first one? Or what's what do you think about the

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<v Speaker 1>new trilogy? And would you think about Halloween Ends? And

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<v Speaker 1>with Jamie Lee Curtis and Laurie Strode and blah blah

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah, and dude, I lost her like three

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<v Speaker 1>minutes in, and I'm like, I'm I guess I just

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<v Speaker 1>talk about movies on a different level than a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people expect. And it really, like you said, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the specificity of it that, like how much I know

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<v Speaker 1>about certain like the dumbest why do I know about

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff? I think? I think Easton's trying to play

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<v Speaker 1>the Brady Buzzer, but he's muted, so he's not able

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<v Speaker 1>to That's a shame, yeah, which which is funny because

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<v Speaker 1>there it is. There's the Brady Buzzer. I bet you

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<v Speaker 1>the girl at the coffee shop wish she had a

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<v Speaker 1>Brady buzzer. But if this don't exist in every day

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<v Speaker 1>long oh, I could tell, like, well, I started ending

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation once I could see that she was It's

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<v Speaker 1>like gone, and I'm like, Okay, never mind, here's your chie.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a question for both of you, guys, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>has dating within the Bachelor franchise made it easier or

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<v Speaker 1>more difficult in your relationship? Or is it doesn't even matter?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's made it more difficult at times, just

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<v Speaker 1>with headlines. Like last week, I was so annoyed by

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<v Speaker 1>a certain publications Instagram post about our podcast that they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even cite our podcast. But they I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>they I don't remember what the quote was, but they

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<v Speaker 1>pulled a random quote from the podcast about Dean want

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<v Speaker 1>to give a sect to me before kids, and it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't even correct. And then Dean read the comments and

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<v Speaker 1>everyone was coming after him, verst saying like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know you read the comments, Dean. What were they saying? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a lot of comments about how I'm controlling

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<v Speaker 1>and how I make the rules, and you are forced

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<v Speaker 1>to fall all of them. You have no say in

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<v Speaker 1>the relationship. And that's what's crazy, is like he was

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<v Speaker 1>doing this as a kind I had proposed the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of secting me to help you and to give you

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<v Speaker 1>the option of not taking birth control anymore. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>what's so frustrating. I'm like, screw you to that publication.

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<v Speaker 1>And they do this often where they like pull these

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<v Speaker 1>tricky headlines. I guess everyone does it and it's stupid,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm like, he was doing such a kind thing

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<v Speaker 1>that most men would never offer up to do so

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<v Speaker 1>in instances like that, it makes it more difficult, but

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<v Speaker 1>usually I feel like it doesn't matter. I gotta be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'm annoyed at is the fact that they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>credit the podcast. I didn't know that. I know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I never comments on this post, but I commented on

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<v Speaker 1>that one. I was like tagging the podcast at least

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<v Speaker 1>or give some context. But yeah, everyone is coming at

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<v Speaker 1>me in the comments for that. It's so annoying. Even

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<v Speaker 1>my brother was like, dang, that's pretty crazy. I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>used to it now, but that one really did irk

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<v Speaker 1>me because I'm trying my best to be a good

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<v Speaker 1>person and no one thought my way. They just think

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<v Speaker 1>that i'm some controlling, manipulative jerk who is trying to

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<v Speaker 1>convince Kalin that I don't want to have kids and

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<v Speaker 1>this is my way of getting out of it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's so so stupid and it's crazy, and if

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<v Speaker 1>this publication wants to do right, they should correct it

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<v Speaker 1>and like acknowledge the fact that what he was doing

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<v Speaker 1>was so kind and thoughtful, like what man offers to

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<v Speaker 1>get a dissect me so the woman doesn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>be on birth control because it doesn't agree with her body.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm angry, but continued Dean, I was going to say,

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<v Speaker 1>even since we first came off Paradise and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we were kind of both polarizing figures, I guess if

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<v Speaker 1>you will, I feel like the odds were kind of

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<v Speaker 1>against us, and I do think that kind of strengthened

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<v Speaker 1>our bond a little bit. So these headlines that we

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<v Speaker 1>see that are negative, although it is like annoying for

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<v Speaker 1>us to see and have to deal with them, I

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<v Speaker 1>do think it does bring us closer in a weirder way.

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<v Speaker 1>And I do think being part of the Bachelor franchise

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<v Speaker 1>has made dating a lot easier for us and for Jared.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you would agree with this too, because the

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<v Speaker 1>franchise has given us so many opportunities to live in

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<v Speaker 1>abdormal lifestyle where we don't have to work as much

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<v Speaker 1>as we would otherwise, And so for us to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to live a life that we live now, it's

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<v Speaker 1>all because of being on a Bachelor obviously. So I

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<v Speaker 1>do think that there are many, many, many more positives

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<v Speaker 1>and there are negatives, and I'm grateful for all those positives,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it's been a good thing for us. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would one hundred percent agree. I think the good

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<v Speaker 1>greatly outweighs the bad. What somebody asked, when do you

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<v Speaker 1>think is the most ideal time to move in with

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<v Speaker 1>a significant other? I think like two years. Oh wow,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a long time. Yeah, it is a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn a year, I don't know, no, but I would

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<v Speaker 1>say at least a year of knowing this person moving

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<v Speaker 1>in it changes things, like like it just does. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not as special anymore when they come over because they're

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<v Speaker 1>not leaving, they're always staying. You wake up to this person,

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<v Speaker 1>like their stuff is there. You see them a lot more,

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<v Speaker 1>and you see them and not you know you like

0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:12.000
<v Speaker 1>you'll smell their poop, like you will smell their poop.

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<v Speaker 1>That is what's going to happen when you live together.

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<v Speaker 1>So it definitely changes things. So I would make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that you guys have a strong foundation that this is

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<v Speaker 1>something that you want to go forward with. Like the

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<v Speaker 1>worst thing and this happens. It's actually happened to someone

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<v Speaker 1>I know right now where it's like they pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>moved it. They just started dating, but they were living

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<v Speaker 1>at home and so now they stay there every single night,

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<v Speaker 1>and they already moved their stuff in, so they're like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I pretty much lived there now and it's literally like

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<v Speaker 1>a month into the relationship. And I'm like, oh God,

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<v Speaker 1>don't do that. That's just a recipe for disaster. No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the way too soon. That's a lot. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it goes both ways, and it really depends

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<v Speaker 1>on a lot of things like age and situation. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I had never lived at this significant other until Kaylin

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<v Speaker 1>and I lived together, which was pretty fast. Like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're either with me in my van or I was

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<v Speaker 1>with you at your apartment in West Hollywood. That was

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<v Speaker 1>also because of COVID or your broken leg and then COVID. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's true. So that's what I'm saying. Situationally, it was

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<v Speaker 1>just a little bit different. But I will say like

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<v Speaker 1>living together or spending so much time on the same roof,

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<v Speaker 1>in whatever context you want to put that in, it

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<v Speaker 1>did make the relationship feel a lot more serious early on,

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<v Speaker 1>in a good way. I think, like you know, as

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<v Speaker 1>a early twenty something year old, I was in relationships,

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<v Speaker 1>but they never felt super serious because we would not

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<v Speaker 1>live together and you would only see each other a

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<v Speaker 1>couple times a week. So I do think like maybe

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<v Speaker 1>as you get older, it could be a little earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>but as a young person, I think that you should

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<v Speaker 1>definitely take your time and wait a little bit longer. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think so well, said Dean. So Well said thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. Yep, I'm pretty good at this whole podcasting. Think, Jared,

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<v Speaker 1>if you were to have a second child, what would

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<v Speaker 1>you name them? Say the first name that comes to

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<v Speaker 1>mind for Oh wow, okay, I didn't have to get

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<v Speaker 1>to that last part, Tom Haben. No, I would not

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<v Speaker 1>name him Tom. My first son's name is already Brady

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle. It's a great question. I've always liked

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<v Speaker 1>the name Sebastian. I talked to Ashley about that before

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<v Speaker 1>we had Dawson. But I mean, Dawson was always gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be Dawson. I'm glad he's Dawson. But I always like Sebastian.

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<v Speaker 1>She's not a big fan of that name, so that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. We'll see for a girl, no idea,

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<v Speaker 1>and then for a boy. Honestly, yeah, the first name

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<v Speaker 1>that comes to mind would probably be Sebastian. But I

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<v Speaker 1>also love I have a dog named Clark, so I

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<v Speaker 1>can't name Clark. Even though I love old fashioned names,

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<v Speaker 1>I would love love to bring back some old fashioned names.

0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:42.600
<v Speaker 1>We name all our dogs like we have Clark, we

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<v Speaker 1>have lois ethel Lucy. They're all just like straight out

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<v Speaker 1>of the nineteen twenties. But to bring back a name

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<v Speaker 1>like that, I think that's that's where we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>head towards. I like Sebastian. He could um it would

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<v Speaker 1>be short for Bash, like Collombash. That would be cute.

0:22:56.800 --> 0:23:00.919
<v Speaker 1>Call Bash yeah as a nickname. You don't like it? No,

0:23:00.920 --> 0:23:03.600
<v Speaker 1>no, no no, I like it. I like Bash Bash. Yeah,

0:23:03.720 --> 0:23:05.760
<v Speaker 1>I could see that. I don't think as you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>like that, I like Bash. Are you saying Clark is

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<v Speaker 1>an old school name? Don't you think. I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>I know a couple of Clarks that are my age.

0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:20.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, Clark's your age. Yeah? Really, I mean I'm

0:23:20.000 --> 0:23:22.840
<v Speaker 1>sure obviously there's Clarks in their twenties and thirties. But

0:23:22.880 --> 0:23:25.800
<v Speaker 1>like you're telling, like, how many Clarks do you know

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<v Speaker 1>comparably to John Matt Bill. Yeah, I understand what you're saying.

0:23:32.000 --> 0:23:33.840
<v Speaker 1>I see you're coming from. I do think it's less common.

0:23:33.920 --> 0:23:35.879
<v Speaker 1>It's a good name. It's a good name, Clark Habin.

0:23:36.000 --> 0:23:38.080
<v Speaker 1>I like it. And what was the girl name that

0:23:38.119 --> 0:23:43.120
<v Speaker 1>you said? It's got a good ring to it. What

0:23:43.160 --> 0:23:45.320
<v Speaker 1>was the girl name that you said? I didn't even

0:23:45.320 --> 0:23:46.840
<v Speaker 1>say a girl name. I got nothing. Do you guys

0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:50.320
<v Speaker 1>have any kid names? Yeah, Dane's named Dollar children I

0:23:50.359 --> 0:23:55.280
<v Speaker 1>have no say Yeah, so he is controlling. Yeah, yeah,

0:23:55.280 --> 0:23:58.240
<v Speaker 1>I am controlling. Hey, Caitlin, I'm naming the kids. You're

0:23:58.440 --> 0:24:00.240
<v Speaker 1>you're a birth that I'm I'm naming. I'm look it

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<v Speaker 1>up and deal with it's a great Can you share

0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:07.520
<v Speaker 1>the name I think you have before Dean? Yeah, we've shared.

0:24:07.560 --> 0:24:10.720
<v Speaker 1>We've shared him. If it was a boy, it'd be Hunter, Hunter,

0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:14.680
<v Speaker 1>Scott Bell. I know Kyle is Kyl Yeah, Kaylen wants

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<v Speaker 1>to have some input on the middle name. Um, but

0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:18.920
<v Speaker 1>I would like it to be Scott. We'll see how

0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:20.600
<v Speaker 1>that how that goes if it gets to that point,

0:24:21.160 --> 0:24:28.000
<v Speaker 1>and then the girl would be Debbie Bell. Middle name TBDB,

0:24:28.320 --> 0:24:31.560
<v Speaker 1>middle name Kaylen. What middle name should Debbie have? I've

0:24:31.560 --> 0:24:33.320
<v Speaker 1>been thinking about this a lot lately. I don't know why,

0:24:33.440 --> 0:24:35.719
<v Speaker 1>and I can't think of a good middle name Debbie

0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:38.040
<v Speaker 1>blank Bell. But what if she just doesn't have a

0:24:38.080 --> 0:24:42.080
<v Speaker 1>middle name Debbie Bell. Debbie Bell's nice. She could even

0:24:42.119 --> 0:24:50.200
<v Speaker 1>be Debbie blank Bell different. Oh like it, Debbie blank Bell. Um,

0:24:50.240 --> 0:24:51.760
<v Speaker 1>all right, let me ask you a couple of rapid

0:24:51.800 --> 0:24:55.120
<v Speaker 1>fire questions before we wrap this podcast up. So um,

0:24:55.280 --> 0:24:57.560
<v Speaker 1>try to be short winded, and so will I. Do

0:24:57.600 --> 0:24:59.760
<v Speaker 1>you guys believe in love at first sight? I will

0:24:59.800 --> 0:25:06.840
<v Speaker 1>go first No? No, no, clean sweep. That's right. Last, gentlemen,

0:25:07.320 --> 0:25:23.399
<v Speaker 1>we hate love. What is your biggest turn off? Mine

0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:27.760
<v Speaker 1>is when people are rude to either bartenders or white stuff.

0:25:28.400 --> 0:25:34.199
<v Speaker 1>My biggest turnoff is, oh man, I'm thinking more in

0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:36.960
<v Speaker 1>terms of like just people and not more so romantic.

0:25:37.840 --> 0:25:45.200
<v Speaker 1>But my biggest like ick or turnoff is is when

0:25:46.760 --> 0:25:50.960
<v Speaker 1>you talk to someone and you always have to repeat yourself.

0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:53.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, every time you say something, they're like, what,

0:25:54.600 --> 0:25:57.600
<v Speaker 1>sorry to say that again. I absolutely cannot stand that.

0:25:57.600 --> 0:25:59.600
<v Speaker 1>That's my biggest pet peeve I think of all time.

0:26:00.240 --> 0:26:04.520
<v Speaker 1>That's a great, great, great pet peeve because I do that,

0:26:04.560 --> 0:26:07.520
<v Speaker 1>and I hate myself. I don't know why I do it.

0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:09.679
<v Speaker 1>It just takes a minute to process in my brain.

0:26:10.400 --> 0:26:13.120
<v Speaker 1>And Ashley, well, one hundred percent agree with your dem

0:26:13.160 --> 0:26:15.480
<v Speaker 1>because I do this to her. She'll ask me something

0:26:15.640 --> 0:26:18.399
<v Speaker 1>and I'll say huh, even though it's still processing in

0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:21.040
<v Speaker 1>my brain. But my initial reaction is to have her

0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:23.679
<v Speaker 1>repeat it instead of me taking a minute to process it,

0:26:24.240 --> 0:26:26.840
<v Speaker 1>which is not a good quality. Yeah. I'm still working

0:26:26.840 --> 0:26:29.040
<v Speaker 1>on that too, And I know it drives doing crazy,

0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:32.640
<v Speaker 1>but it's it's a reaction. It drives me up the wall.

0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:35.719
<v Speaker 1>And I'll tell you what, I don't think it's necessarily like,

0:26:35.840 --> 0:26:38.000
<v Speaker 1>I know you're not doing it intentionally. And I used

0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:39.159
<v Speaker 1>to do it all the time as well, and I

0:26:39.200 --> 0:26:41.840
<v Speaker 1>still do it sometimes. But I noticed I was doing

0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:43.760
<v Speaker 1>it and I was like, Okay, I am going to

0:26:43.880 --> 0:26:45.760
<v Speaker 1>fix this and try to get better at it. And

0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:47.840
<v Speaker 1>so what I've started doing when I encounter these people

0:26:48.040 --> 0:26:50.960
<v Speaker 1>is when they say what or hunt. I just don't respond.

0:26:51.040 --> 0:26:53.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't even say anything. I don't even give them

0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:56.240
<v Speaker 1>any type of eye contact or I definitely don't repeat myself.

0:26:57.119 --> 0:26:59.320
<v Speaker 1>And that's my solution to it. And it like maybe

0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:01.400
<v Speaker 1>maybe some light on them that they need to fix

0:27:01.440 --> 0:27:04.960
<v Speaker 1>the problem, the problem whatever. Maybe maybe it's just some

0:27:05.040 --> 0:27:07.280
<v Speaker 1>light off the problect that they're doing that they're doing

0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:10.680
<v Speaker 1>something that not everyone can like. So that's my that's

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:12.800
<v Speaker 1>my Oh I cannot stand. It makes my blood boil.

0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:15.560
<v Speaker 1>All right, Carolen, what's your biggest turn off? Mine is

0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:18.320
<v Speaker 1>chewing with your mouth open? Just the grossest thing ever

0:27:20.000 --> 0:27:23.560
<v Speaker 1>is Yeah, you do hate that? Um, he is usually

0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:25.160
<v Speaker 1>good at it. If he's trying to make me mad,

0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:28.359
<v Speaker 1>he'll do it on purpose. Oh. If I'm having a

0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:30.879
<v Speaker 1>popsicle and Ashley, I'm trying to annoy Ashley, that thing's

0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:34.600
<v Speaker 1>getting crunched loudly. Ah. Do you guys think the statement

0:27:34.760 --> 0:27:38.160
<v Speaker 1>wants a cheater always a cheater is true? I will

0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:45.360
<v Speaker 1>go first. I do not. I don't because of Dean. Oh,

0:27:45.600 --> 0:27:47.480
<v Speaker 1>thank goodness. If anyone said yes, I would have a

0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:50.360
<v Speaker 1>bone to pick. I obviously don't either. If I said

0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:52.679
<v Speaker 1>yes to that, I would be really mad at myself.

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:55.280
<v Speaker 1>So I don't think that's necessarily true. I do think

0:27:55.359 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 1>that you have to grow out of the phase of

0:27:57.119 --> 0:27:59.200
<v Speaker 1>life that you were in when you were that person,

0:27:59.680 --> 0:28:02.400
<v Speaker 1>But I don't think. I don't think actions in your

0:28:02.640 --> 0:28:05.000
<v Speaker 1>late teens early twenties definitely reflect who you are as

0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:09.800
<v Speaker 1>a person for the rest of your life. What's something

0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:12.840
<v Speaker 1>you used to believe about relationships but no longer do.

0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:15.399
<v Speaker 1>The first thing that comes to my mind, this is

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:18.320
<v Speaker 1>definitely a naive thought that I had when I was younger,

0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:21.639
<v Speaker 1>which was as soon as you start doubting the relationship

0:28:21.760 --> 0:28:24.240
<v Speaker 1>or things start becoming difficult, then it's probably not the

0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:28.159
<v Speaker 1>relationship for you. That is just completely false. And I,

0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:32.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, Ashley and I and many other relationships would

0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:34.679
<v Speaker 1>have ended if the first time things got hard and

0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:37.439
<v Speaker 1>difficult and we had doubts about our future, that we

0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:41.960
<v Speaker 1>would just end the relationship. It's ridiculous and something that

0:28:42.040 --> 0:28:44.200
<v Speaker 1>I used to think was true when I was younger,

0:28:44.240 --> 0:28:45.840
<v Speaker 1>and now I certainly don't think it's true. You have

0:28:45.880 --> 0:28:48.480
<v Speaker 1>to work, you know, through your problems together. That's what

0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:53.080
<v Speaker 1>a marriage is all about, Kayle. I think for me,

0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:56.560
<v Speaker 1>I grew up in the South and it's like, if

0:28:56.560 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 1>you're a Christian, you have to marry a Christian. And

0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:01.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't really know what I believe anymore,

0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 1>but I'm obviously not marrying a Christian, so that's something

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:13.960
<v Speaker 1>at least, but I no longer believe at least. Yeah,

0:29:13.960 --> 0:29:15.840
<v Speaker 1>that's true. That's good. I'm glad that you decided to

0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:17.959
<v Speaker 1>come around on that way of thinking. That's good for me.

0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 1>That's not what I said. Well, I'm just saying, you know,

0:29:21.520 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 1>another win for the atheists, so the world. That's great,

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 1>I would say, Jared, I think what yours, yours, you

0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:31.760
<v Speaker 1>said was really really good because I think as kids

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:35.200
<v Speaker 1>were kind of conditioned to believe that every relationship should

0:29:35.200 --> 0:29:37.880
<v Speaker 1>be perfectly flawless and once you find your soulmate, there's

0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:40.160
<v Speaker 1>never going to be any type of like tension or

0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:43.280
<v Speaker 1>friction in the relationship, and so whenever we experience that

0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:45.560
<v Speaker 1>in a relationship at a young age, then we think

0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:49.920
<v Speaker 1>of it being a reason to end the relationship. But

0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:53.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I think that also comes with age two.

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:55.400
<v Speaker 1>Like with Kaylin, I think we had a lot of

0:29:55.480 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 1>hurdles early on in our relationship, and we still do

0:29:57.640 --> 0:30:02.160
<v Speaker 1>bicker and argue about certain things, and it just takes

0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:04.680
<v Speaker 1>work to like communicate it and tell the other person

0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:06.840
<v Speaker 1>what's going on and why you feel the way that

0:30:06.880 --> 0:30:10.600
<v Speaker 1>you do. Where you know, work in a relationship isn't

0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:12.320
<v Speaker 1>something that you necessarily think that you have to go

0:30:12.400 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 1>hand in hand with at a younger age. So I

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:15.880
<v Speaker 1>agree with you. I think that's kind of what it is.

0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:19.160
<v Speaker 1>I was going to say, like soulmates, I don't really

0:30:19.160 --> 0:30:21.000
<v Speaker 1>believe in soulmates, and I may be used to, and

0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:22.840
<v Speaker 1>I think those two things kind of go hand in hand,

0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:26.960
<v Speaker 1>you know. Like I agree with you. I think that

0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:30.400
<v Speaker 1>a relationship takes a lot of work, and if I

0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:33.239
<v Speaker 1>did Kalin when I was twenty two, I don't think

0:30:33.280 --> 0:30:35.360
<v Speaker 1>it would work because I didn't realize how much worker

0:30:35.400 --> 0:30:40.600
<v Speaker 1>relationship was supposed to take back then, you know. Yeah, yeah,

0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:45.440
<v Speaker 1>Two questions. In what scenario, if any, is it okay

0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 1>to lie to your partner. I'm a big advocate of

0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:53.239
<v Speaker 1>little white lies if they serve or purpose, because a

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:56.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of people in relationships would say, I never lie

0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:58.120
<v Speaker 1>to my partner. I never want my partner to lie

0:30:58.160 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 1>to you. Okay, Well, I'll you scenario that I have lied,

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:05.520
<v Speaker 1>not even to particularly my partner but my partner's family

0:31:05.560 --> 0:31:09.640
<v Speaker 1>perhaps where somebody cooks a dinner for me, they spend

0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:13.320
<v Speaker 1>a long time on it, work hard, and then it's

0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:16.720
<v Speaker 1>not that good. I'm not gonna say at dinner it's

0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:20.800
<v Speaker 1>not that good. I'm gonna maybe at some point later down,

0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:23.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, down the road where they've had their feet

0:31:23.480 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 1>up all day and a little bit more relaxed instead

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:28.920
<v Speaker 1>of cooking away in the kitchen, I'll, you know, say

0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:32.040
<v Speaker 1>oh that, you know what, that pasta dish. It just

0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:35.320
<v Speaker 1>wasn't the best. It wasn't my favorite, you know, but

0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:37.960
<v Speaker 1>I can't stand like, I'll never forget. I'll never forget

0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:39.280
<v Speaker 1>this moment for the rest of my life. We sat

0:31:39.320 --> 0:31:41.160
<v Speaker 1>down for dinner, I might as well just call him

0:31:41.160 --> 0:31:43.720
<v Speaker 1>out on it. And Ashley's mom was cooking all day

0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:48.080
<v Speaker 1>and she made these meatballs and we all sat down.

0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:51.320
<v Speaker 1>It was the five of us because Lauren Ashley, yeah,

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:54.240
<v Speaker 1>five of us, and she must have been working on

0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:57.760
<v Speaker 1>the kitchen for like five hours on this meal. And

0:31:57.800 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 1>then they just have a different relationship than I have

0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:02.480
<v Speaker 1>with my family because literally the first bite, Ashley's like,

0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:07.760
<v Speaker 1>not that good, and I'm like, oh my god, oh

0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:12.840
<v Speaker 1>my god, why would you say that and there, of course,

0:32:12.880 --> 0:32:15.280
<v Speaker 1>as she was like, no, we're just be like she

0:32:15.400 --> 0:32:18.120
<v Speaker 1>knows one, Like, I'm grateful she cooked for me, but

0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:21.240
<v Speaker 1>it's not that good and I'm like to get I'm

0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:23.360
<v Speaker 1>like I have I just I need to get out

0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:28.520
<v Speaker 1>of this situation fast. Oh no, that's pretty funny. So anyway,

0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:31.600
<v Speaker 1>that's my example whenever I say, like, there are times

0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 1>for little white lies to be like, you know, nice,

0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:37.840
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you. I think that's great. I think, yeah,

0:32:37.880 --> 0:32:40.840
<v Speaker 1>white lies can help ease the blow sometimes. Kaylin, what's

0:32:40.840 --> 0:32:44.480
<v Speaker 1>your answer? Um, I don't know. I was gonna wait

0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:46.400
<v Speaker 1>to hear your answer. I mean, I guess little white

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:48.560
<v Speaker 1>lies in those cases where it's like not a big

0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:54.760
<v Speaker 1>deal and it's and you're protecting someone's feelings, then yeah, yeah, true.

0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:56.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean I lie to you all the time, so

0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:59.520
<v Speaker 1>I obviously think it's a relationship. You're making this so

0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:02.520
<v Speaker 1>much worse for yourself. Oh my gosh, I don't think

0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 1>a single day goes by way. I don't tell you

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:08.240
<v Speaker 1>at least a couple of lies. Shut well, let's talk

0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:10.959
<v Speaker 1>about it, you know, yeah, like, hey, how long? How well?

0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:14.480
<v Speaker 1>How long? My most favorite live of all time when

0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:15.880
<v Speaker 1>you ask how long is it going to take for

0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:17.880
<v Speaker 1>you to build that or something? And I always say, oh,

0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:20.320
<v Speaker 1>just take me an hour. Yeah, that's now a joke.

0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:21.760
<v Speaker 1>I thought you were going to bring up when are

0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:24.680
<v Speaker 1>you going to be back from golf? I was about

0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:26.200
<v Speaker 1>to say that. That was my next one. That was

0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:29.160
<v Speaker 1>my second bullet in the chamber was how long is

0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:30.680
<v Speaker 1>it going to take you back from golf? I was like, Oh,

0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:32.480
<v Speaker 1>I'll be back in two hours or three hours, and

0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:35.280
<v Speaker 1>then I'm not back intil like ten pm. No, you

0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:37.000
<v Speaker 1>say two pm. Yeah, and you don't show up till

0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:42.640
<v Speaker 1>ten Yeah, that's okay, Okay, but I guess I guess

0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:45.360
<v Speaker 1>now I need to depend myself. Actually, thank you. It's

0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:47.200
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily a lie. It's in the moment I think

0:33:47.240 --> 0:33:49.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling the truth, but it becomes a lie when

0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:52.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't follow through with it. So I think, in

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:55.000
<v Speaker 1>your hearts of hearts, you know in the moment you're

0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:58.800
<v Speaker 1>not being truthful. Yeah, I've Actually I'll tell you what

0:33:58.920 --> 0:34:01.720
<v Speaker 1>I've I've developed a new system to start getting what

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:03.800
<v Speaker 1>I want more often in the relationship, and I wasn't

0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:07.560
<v Speaker 1>going to share it, especially with Kaylin, because I don't

0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:09.319
<v Speaker 1>want it to fail me at all. But I'm going

0:34:09.400 --> 0:34:11.720
<v Speaker 1>to share it with you guys, and it works. It's

0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:16.239
<v Speaker 1>been one hundred percent effective so far, not anymore. So

0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:20.239
<v Speaker 1>here's here's the method. Instead of going like, instead of

0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:22.720
<v Speaker 1>saying like, Hey, Kaylin, I'll be home at four today,

0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:26.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go play golf with my friends, I say, hey, Kaylin,

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<v Speaker 1>can I go golf with my friends today? Or Hey Kayln,

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<v Speaker 1>can I go over to my friend's house? And Kaylin

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<v Speaker 1>never wants to be the person to control me or

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<v Speaker 1>tell me what I can and can't do? Said nine

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<v Speaker 1>nine out of nine times she says, oh, yeah, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and do it. All I have to do

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<v Speaker 1>is ask instead of instead of saying what am I

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do? I have to ask if I can do it? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great um strategy to have when you're with

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<v Speaker 1>someone who won't tell you no. M Ashley would tell

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<v Speaker 1>me no. Oh. I'm sure she eventually will start saying no.

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<v Speaker 1>But I know that she her and I both with

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<v Speaker 1>each other, we want the other person to do whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it is that makes them happy, and so by asking

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<v Speaker 1>it in a question form, like if Calen asked me

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<v Speaker 1>if she could do something, I would never in a

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<v Speaker 1>million years say no, you can't do that, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I think that I spent it back around her by

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<v Speaker 1>by asking the question instead. Yeah, it's works so far,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll see. But I do I like I like

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<v Speaker 1>it when you ask, not that you need to ask,

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<v Speaker 1>but sometimes when I don't know. Hey have just mixed

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<v Speaker 1>feelings about golf. Yeah, Kilm doesn't like that I'm out

0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:36.040
<v Speaker 1>drinking with my friends all day. Yeah, I mean, I don't, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but I get it, trust me, Like I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a balance. You know, you gotta go out and

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<v Speaker 1>have some you know, fun with the boys. You gotta

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<v Speaker 1>have fun with the boys. You gotta just like get

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<v Speaker 1>it out. But uh, yeah, it's a balance. I'd say

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<v Speaker 1>ten pm is probably a little bit too late. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like three or four is a good compromise, you know. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but what if you want to like play more golf

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<v Speaker 1>after the first round and then you got to get

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<v Speaker 1>beers all together afterwards. It's just oh, I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I see where where where Klin is coming from with

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<v Speaker 1>the whole golf situation. But I mean, I think the

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<v Speaker 1>Brady Buzzer should be I think the Brady Buzzer needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be an actor, right, now I'm putting my foot in.

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<v Speaker 1>You're nervous. Yeah, I'm back that, I'm back fiddling. Last question,

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<v Speaker 1>even though I'm very confidence, probably won't happen. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>get do you? First of all, do you have an

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<v Speaker 1>afficiant for the wedding year? Yes? We did? Okay? Um, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if somebody wants to know if you had someone from

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<v Speaker 1>Bachelor Nation officiate your wedding. Obviously there's been Chris Harrison

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<v Speaker 1>has officiated media weddings, A lawn officiated our wedding. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>would you have someone from Bachelor Nation? It would it

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<v Speaker 1>be Chris Harrison or somebody else that would officiate, if

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<v Speaker 1>you guys get to choose. We're not really close with Chris,

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<v Speaker 1>so it definitely wouldn't be Chris if our efficiant were

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<v Speaker 1>to not officiate our wedging, our wedding, Um, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Dean's pretty close with Wells. Maybe, well, say, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I could see Wells officiated your wedding. Yeah, yeah, Wells

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<v Speaker 1>is officiating another Bachelor wedding this year, So which makes

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<v Speaker 1>you not want it? Want him too? Yeah, which makes

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<v Speaker 1>me not wanting to. I could see Ben doing a

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<v Speaker 1>really good job, maybe Ben? Yeah, Ben would be really good.

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<v Speaker 1>Ben would make it very soulful and very like loving,

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<v Speaker 1>and he would the only thing about the only thing

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<v Speaker 1>about Ben doing it is Ben would steal the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Ben would do such a good job. Everyone would

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<v Speaker 1>be talking about how great of a job Ben did

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<v Speaker 1>ten years later, not how beautiful the wedding went. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he would like outshine our vows too, which would be embarrassing. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>his bows would be better than our area. Yeah, his

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<v Speaker 1>officiating would be better than our vows. That's funny. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it would probably it probably would be him, But no, thankfully,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a very close friend that's doing it for us.

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<v Speaker 1>Think you know, thankfully they are all right, well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to do it for the special episode of help

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<v Speaker 1>we Suck at being newlyweds once again, that's still in

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<v Speaker 1>the workshop. Thank you so much for joining us on

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