1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in our number three Clay 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: Travis buck Sexton Show. We appreciate all of you hanging 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: out with us. Want to remind you as we roll 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: into the new year, you can go subscribe to the podcast. 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: You can search out my name Clay Travis, you can 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: search out Buck Sexton. 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Maybe you're busy 17 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: in the afternoon after the show ends, maybe you're busy 18 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: super early in the morning, maybe you work late nights. Whatever, 19 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,279 Speaker 1: you can bring the show to you and experience it 20 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: at your convenience. Search out my name Clay Travis, search 21 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: out Buck Sexon so I cannot get over how amazing 22 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: if you weren't trying to design a story to perfectly 23 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: reflect how partisan and histrionic and completely dishonest much of 24 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: the left wing media has become. Buck, I'm not sure 25 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: you could come up with a better story than Joe 26 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: Biden also having classified documents in his possession in flagrant 27 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: violation of all standards for high holding classified documents. Now, 28 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: you and I know this led to the Mara Lago raid. 29 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: We had months of discussions surrounding how inappropriate Trump's behavior was. 30 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: Some left wing hills even suggested that Trump should get 31 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: the death penalty. They said that this was totally like 32 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: it excluded him from ever being able to be president again. 33 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: And I asked our staff, Buck, you and I were 34 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: talking off air after we opened the show. He said, 35 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: there's got to be some good collections of audio to 36 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: perfectly demonstrate this insane hypocrisy when it comes to dealing 37 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: with classified documents. So let's have some fun diving through 38 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 1: a collection. This is from the first one here. August 39 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty two. John Avalon says that Trump now 40 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: has to forfeit office, that he's disqualified from future office. 41 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: I want you guys to be able to enjoy CNN's 42 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: immediate reaction. Sounds like, based on CNN's reaction to Trump, 43 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: Joe Biden has no other options but to resign the 44 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: presidency immediately. Listen, There's a law in the book that 45 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: directly relates to the destruction of official documents. And here's 46 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: what it says. And whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, 47 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: or destroys official documents, shall be fined under this title 48 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: or imprisoned not more than three years, or both, and 49 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any 50 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: office under the United States. You got that last part. 51 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: The legal consequence of destroying official documents includes being disqualified 52 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 1: from holding any office under the United States, any office 53 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: that would seem to include the office of President the 54 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: United States. So destruction, to be fair of documents, is 55 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: disqualifying having classified documents, as Joe Biden does. I think 56 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: probably if we'd ask John Avalon, he would also say 57 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: that's probably a disqualifying factor. First of all, when I 58 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: was in the CIA, we would destroy all the documents 59 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: all the time, just to severign's very clear on how 60 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: this isn't just clears. Oh, you destroy a document, you 61 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: go to prison forever. Have this thing called burn X 62 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: where we would take documents there were classified, You put 63 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: them in the burn back and then they're incinerated to 64 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: destroy the that's destroying documents. We do this all the time, 65 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: so it's not as straightforward it's just oh, if you 66 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: destroy it, obviously you don't keep all documents forever. Clay, 67 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: none of this ever made sense they told us, By 68 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 1: the way, I mean, I'm looking back at August twelfth 69 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty two, during the Mara Lago. You know, oh, 70 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: when the story came out, it was nuclear secrets that 71 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: tweetered out. If they end up claiming that Trump had 72 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: super duper secret documents in a locker in mar Lago, 73 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: get ready for them to tell you the documents are 74 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: way too secret for us to see. Yeah, yeah, that's 75 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: exactly what happened. By the way, because this was also obvious. 76 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: Why why would Trump go out of his way to 77 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: have you know, very sensitive national security information isn't something 78 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: that you're gonna want to hold onto for nostalgia purposes. 79 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: It makes me when I mean very sensitive, I mean 80 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: truly sensitive things that would be dangerous to public safety. 81 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: It's outrageous. The whole thing is completely insane. It never 82 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: made any sense whatsoever. And now we're just seeing I 83 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: don't even like using the word hypocrisy, because they don't care. 84 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: That's the problem. Hypocrisy never bothers Democrats. They're like, yeah, 85 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: we do it because we can. We have our media shills. 86 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 1: Go oh my gosh, you can hold office. Look at this, 87 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: it's in the statute. We have them do that because 88 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: we can, and we want to destroy you, and we 89 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: don't care. We have no principles. That is a Democrat mantra. 90 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: We still have to play. I think some of this 91 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: because I'm reading these are great. Rachel Maddow reacting with 92 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: joyful glee to the fact that Trump had classified documents. 93 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: Here's Rachel Maddow on MSNBC. Tomorrow is the day when 94 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna want to buy the physical copy of the newspaper. 95 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: They're gonna want to buy it and fold it carefully, 96 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: maybe put it in a little archival paper or parchment. 97 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: If you don't have that, just put it away. Someday 98 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: you might, depending on how saucy you're feeling, you might 99 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 1: want to just note, perhaps in archival ink in the 100 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: margin of Marrow's paper, note anniversary of Richard Nix Nixon's 101 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: resignation as president. People will get a kick out of 102 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: that some some some years down the road. Buy the newspaper. 103 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 1: I wonder if she's gonna tell her people today. Buck 104 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: got to go out and buy the newspaper. Now that 105 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: Joe Biden has classified documents. And then our good buddy, 106 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: how about Stephen Colbert, who's truly lost his mind here 107 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: he was reacting when Donald Trump had had confidential documents. 108 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: It may be hot outside, but in here it's Christmas, 109 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: because yesterday we all got the present we wanted. FBI 110 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: Agent lag. That's the most beautiful sentence America has ever produced. 111 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: The most beautiful sentence America has ever produced. Buck, that's it, 112 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: By the way, comedy show, it's ostensibly that Stephen Colbert 113 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: is reacting to the Marrow Laga raid. I wonder what 114 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: he'll say about Biden, how the documents he has. Isn't 115 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: it all so amazing that they complete? They lecture us 116 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: constantly about threats to our democracy and our institutions, and 117 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: they get all huffy and they tear up, and they 118 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: think about some of the the you know, grandmothers taking 119 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: selfies outside the Capitol on January sixth, and they'd say 120 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: it's worse than Pearl Harbor and all this other stuff. 121 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: And they think it's absolutely hilarious and justified to send 122 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: the FBI into the residence of a former president to 123 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: see some old, dusty documents that nobody gives a crap about. 124 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: Give me a break. Does anyone really believe at this 125 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: point Clay that if there was super secret nuclear codes, 126 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, we're all gonna die in the in 127 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: the Marilago basement, which nobody was even seeing anyway, that 128 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: someone wouldn't have leaked that. Now we wouldn't hear more 129 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: about it. They tried, there's oh it's the nuclear codes 130 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: or you know, the nuclear information or whatever it was. 131 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure we would know a lot more if it 132 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: was actually something that normal people would respond to with, 133 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's really reckless in a big problem. No, 134 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: they can't let us know, because if they did, people 135 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: would say they just used this as a pretext like 136 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: everything else with Trump, like the FISA warrants against his campaign, 137 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: like the FBI Russia collusion Special counsel investigation like the impeachment, 138 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: which you got right the first time around, of the 139 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: phone call, the impeachment the second time around of what 140 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: exactly saying things that Nancy Pelosi didn't like on the 141 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: day of January sixth. It is never gonna stop with 142 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: these loons. They're never gonna shut this down. And I 143 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: do think for those of you who weren't with us 144 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: in the first hour, this is significantly narrowing the route 145 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: by which Merrick Garland can bring charges Because if you 146 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: miss the CNN revelation they reported that Joe Biden had 147 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: classified documents relating to Ukraine, Iran and the United Kingdom, 148 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: the Ukraine story is going to be a mess for him. 149 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: But this effectively take the classified documents and what is 150 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: going to happen for them off the table, right because 151 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: I think ultimately what will end up happening now with 152 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: this is Merrick Garland will come out and he will 153 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: wag his finger about the importance of everyone involved in 154 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: in government respecting the security of classified documents. But bucket's 155 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: worth mentioning here these were in the National Archives. You 156 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: would know this better than a lot of people. Do 157 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: we think if it's so incredibly secret that the National 158 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: Archives should be in control of this. Like, if it's 159 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 1: really to the essence of, oh my god, our government's 160 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: future is at stake, why would we want the National 161 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: Archives to have these right? Like, what is the point 162 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: of if we're protecting sources and methods, which is raise 163 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: what they fall back on with this keeping something in 164 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: the National Archives where it will just collect dust for 165 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: whoever knows how long. For what purpose could it possibly serve? 166 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 1: If it's about presidential records, fine, but there's no point 167 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 1: in having presidential records that no one, including future historians 168 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: could review because it's too sensitive. And by the way 169 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 1: the way they do classification is by when there is 170 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: a review date, and the review dates can be in 171 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,719 Speaker 1: twenty years, fifty years. You know, they can stretch these 172 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: things out as long as they want. So yeah, again 173 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 1: we get back to what purpose this is. But but Clay, 174 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: you know it's funny because you and I know what 175 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,719 Speaker 1: the purpose was, or rather you know what this was 176 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: all about. They have convinced their audience that Donald Trump, 177 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: it's not just that they oppose him politically and they 178 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: don't like him personally. He's a traitor and he's a criminals, 179 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: and they have promised their audience, meaning the Democrat base 180 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: and the Democrat Party, that he will be in handcuffs 181 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 1: at some point, and even if they can't manage to 182 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: slip those bracelets on him, they have to keep this 183 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 1: story going. Let me look at Rachel Maddow. She has 184 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: built the biggest career surge ever for herself, you know, 185 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:12,239 Speaker 1: in the history of her MSNBC show, etc. By constantly 186 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: overpromising and just telling people stuff that's bullcrap. And the 187 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: audience doesn't care because they just want to be told 188 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: Trump is hitler and we're gonna get him. That's it. 189 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: If you do that, you get ratings, you're treated like 190 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: royalty in the left wing media. That's all you have 191 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: to do. It's very destructive. It's really quite divisive, destructive 192 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 1: of the brains of the imbeciles who watched this stuff 193 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: and believe it. And it's also the big guy. People 194 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: want to talk about the big guy as it pertains 195 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: to Trump and people who might support him. The big Ye. 196 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 1: All along has been that Trump was a Manchurian candidate, 197 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: that Russia collusion, which six years after the fact, the 198 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: Washington Post said, oh yeah, there's nothing here. They haven't 199 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: rescinded any of those Pulitzer prizes. And what is so 200 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: interesting to me about this is the left wing media 201 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: painted itself into a corner on classified documents, and they don't. 202 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: I think we have one more clip here to play, 203 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: a thirty second medley of them reacting gleefully all over 204 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: the place, and then it turns out that Joe Biden's 205 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: actually done it too. Let's play this one more further 206 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: reaction of the hypocrisy. Tomorrow is the day when you're 207 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: going to want to buy the physical copy of the 208 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 1: newspaper because this is a night where you are going 209 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: to remember where you were. Obviously as big as big 210 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: as stakes as you can have. Perhaps the orange jumpsuit 211 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: is forthcoming Floodimputin. He doesn't believe in the rule of law. 212 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: She doesn't. They all systematically work to break down the 213 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: rule of law, just like Donald Trump. If I were 214 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: like Donald Trump's lawyer right now, and thank god him not, 215 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: I would be advising my client to be telling my 216 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: family I am looking at jail time and we should 217 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: make plans accordingly. And what did I say? They promise 218 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: their audience that Trump's going to prison they've been doing 219 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: this four years. They can't step down off that ledge. 220 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: It's really actually at some level clay that they've they've 221 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: they've they've created this serotonin feedback loop of I don't 222 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: like Trump. Trump is awful, and so just tell them, 223 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 1: Tell tell the people that Trump is going to go 224 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: to prison, tell the Libs that Trump is gonna get 225 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: frog marched out of Mara Lago. And you do when 226 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: you get rewarded, and they never care that it never happens. 227 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: They just want to keep hearing it. What about the taxes? 228 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: They spent years like, oh, when the taxes come out, 229 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna find out how disqualifying they were. They came 230 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: out and like it was like a maybe a six 231 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: hour story. No, I't even cared. 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One of them pointed out 258 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: that Interstate love song this is from Mark maybe not 259 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: the best choice as a singer is saying that he lied, 260 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: he lied, he lied. I love the show, especially Buck's 261 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: impression of Fauci. He says, But yeah, you know, Clay, 262 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: do you have this too where you like a song 263 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: a lot and you've been listening to it, you know, 264 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: for many, many years, and then one day you actually 265 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: hear the lyrics and you go, good, Heavens, this song 266 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: is about something naughty going on, Like I've had this before. 267 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a second, he's talking about something orchi 268 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: either one talking about something that does not sound like 269 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: what they were talking about. Well, also a lot. I mean, 270 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: I was defending the nineties earlier, but like, if you 271 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: go look at like Nirvana's song lyrics, they make no sense, right, 272 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: It's just the music itself in conjunction with whatever they're saying. 273 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: Sometimes you might not even know what they're saying. And 274 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: there's almost no great If I had to pick for 275 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: you right now, who's the best rock band that is 276 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: not from the sixties that still is out like touring 277 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: because Rolling Stones is still kind of on tour. Look, 278 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's hard to I think 279 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: it's hard to overlook Erosmith in the best band that's 280 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: not of the Rolling Stones era that came after them. 281 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: I think it's hard to get past Arrowsmith in that conversation, 282 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: just in terms of longevity. I mean, they were still 283 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: doing like super Bowl halftime shows what a few I 284 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: know the Rolling Stones do too, but you know there's 285 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: not that. I mean, so there's a big jump the 286 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: Foo Fighters and I know they just lost their drummer 287 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: and Dave Grohl is super left a waying. I understand 288 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: there's just not that many rock bands that are going 289 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: to be touring when that Rolling Stone generation Aerosmith, when 290 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: those guys start to depart, like there's just not very 291 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: many of them left, you know. I think you could 292 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: also make an argument that the three greatest exports of 293 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: Great Britain all time are number one America, number two 294 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: English common law, number three rock bands. When you start 295 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 1: to think about all of the great bands that come 296 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: out of the rock band specifically come out of the UK, 297 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: it's staggering a lot of people don't even you know, 298 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: even people that you wouldn't you wouldn't think of necessarily 299 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: the Eric Clapton British, Go down the Line, Dude, led 300 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: Zeppelin British, Rolling Stones British, The Beatles, British. You start, 301 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: you start lining us up, You're like, you know you 302 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: count them as Irish, right, The Bonos, I mean, but 303 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: you two is a big like you can't deny tool. 304 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: But I used to like them. That you two has 305 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: kind of gone like Cole Play for me, where it's like, yeah, okay. 306 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: I mean, Bono is definitely off the off the reservation 307 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: in terms of many of the things that he believes politically. 308 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: But they were and are a pretty great band. Look, 309 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to save you some money right now. 310 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: If you have five or more employees, run a business, 311 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: managed to make it through COVID and now recession, you 312 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: could be eligible to receive a payroll tax or rebate 313 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: of up to twenty six thousand dollars per employee, no loan, 314 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: no payback, refund of your taxes. 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We are 324 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: rolling down the track here on the Tuesday edition of 325 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: the program. Appreciate all of you joining us. Yesterday, our 326 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: friend Alex Berenson joined the Twitter files crew and had 327 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: a really fascinating eye opening thread of information surrounding Scott Gottlieb, 328 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: who sits I believe on the Fiser board and has 329 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: been zealously attempting to silence critics of the Fiser covid shot. 330 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: I think I'm summarizing that fairly well, Alex. A couple 331 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: of questions here off the top, how did you come 332 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: to join the Twitter files team? That is evon Musk 333 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: opening up these revelations to you, And second part of that, 334 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: were you surprised by what you found as it relates 335 00:19:55,760 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: to Scott Gottlieb. So yeah, The first question, um, Elan 336 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: actually uh texted me kind of out of the blue 337 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: in late December and asked me if I would be 338 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: part of this um and fregman. I was surprised because 339 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: I've been critical about certain things he's done since he 340 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,479 Speaker 1: took over Twitter. Um uh. And you know, and at 341 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: one point he actually blocked me from following him, and 342 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: so I thought, well, I guess I'm not going to 343 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: be part of this uh, this group that gets to 344 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: investigate this um. But you know, he, I guess felt 345 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: that um it was important to have somebody who really 346 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: knew covid um and the and the censorship efforts to 347 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: take a look until he asked me, And that's why 348 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: I said, yeah, um uh. And and you know, and 349 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 1: I want to say one other thing about this, which 350 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: I don't think people realize how extraordinary it is what 351 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: Elan lest he is doing with the file. Now you 352 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: can argue about you know, since he took over, he 353 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: let this person on, he didn't let this person on, 354 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 1: He let Kanye on and kicked them off, various sort 355 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 1: of decisions that he made. But but this allowing people 356 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: inside the records of the company that he bought. He 357 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:14,479 Speaker 1: is legally risky for him, and it's an extraordinary decision 358 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: on his part, and it's giving us an unprecedented look 359 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: into the way the government and social media companies work 360 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: together and the pressure on Twitter, which, to me, even 361 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: though it's at the largest, in some ways, he's the 362 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: most important of all these companies because it is so 363 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: used by journalists. So I think he one deserves credit 364 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: for that. And frankly, if he kicks me off again 365 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 1: because you know he's annoyed with me or whatever, I'll 366 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: still say he deserves credit for that. So that's how 367 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: I got involved now in terms of what the files show, yes, 368 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: they show that Scott Gottlieb who it's very important to 369 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: understand who this guy is. Although he didn't have a 370 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: position in government the last couple of years, he's arguably 371 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 1: the most important voice outside in terms of setting COVID 372 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: policy because he was the former chairman of or former 373 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,239 Speaker 1: commissioner of the FDA. He then left the FDA very 374 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: rapidly joined FISER and in twenty twenty when COVID really, 375 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: you know, when COVID hit, he uh he you know, 376 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: took a place for himself as the centrist republican, as 377 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 1: the guy who you know was going to tell Trump 378 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: and Jared Pushner what to do and say it publicly, 379 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 1: and you know, hopefully they've listened to him. And that's who, uh, 380 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: that's who Scott Gottlieb is. And so he had, you know, 381 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: he had a loud voice. And he also, um, you know, 382 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: had a real conflict of interest here with the vaccine 383 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: because he was on the board of Fiser, which has 384 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: made more money from the vaccines than than anybody else. 385 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: Fiser and BioNTech, They've sold more of these m RNA 386 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: vaccines than anybody else. And so and he said publicly, 387 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: you know what, um, I'm not against debate on the vaccines. 388 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: I want all voices to be heard. And it turns 389 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: out we now know, having looked at these files, that 390 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: that that that's not really true. It's not true at all. 391 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: Speaking Alex Barrenson, check out his sub stack and Alex, 392 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: I want to since we're talking about vaccines too, along 393 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: with the Twitter censorship issue, what is the truth is 394 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: we can say right now or as you can tell 395 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: us right now of mile karditis hard inflammation problems from 396 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: the shots based on the numbers the data, you know, 397 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: what do we know and what do we still need 398 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 1: to find out about what these shots have done? Oh, 399 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: MARCREDI is a very real risk for men under forty 400 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: falling shots. And you can argue if mile kardidas alone 401 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: is a bigger risk than COVID for the shots in 402 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: that age group. We know that COVID is a very 403 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: low risk to anybody who's under forty who's not you know, 404 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: so bordly opiece or otherwise that death store. Um, but 405 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: miocharditis is a real risk. So myocarditis is a heart inflammation. Um, uh, 406 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: you know, it seems uh, we don't know sort of 407 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 1: how long the damage to the heart lasts. It may 408 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: be different in different cases. Um. To be clear, you know, 409 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: most people are not most you know, even young men 410 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: who who are injected are not going to suffer uh 411 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: you know, uh, miocharditis and they're not going to suffer 412 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 1: a severe case certainly. But it is a real risk. 413 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: And given how uh you know, not risking COVID is 414 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: in that population all by itself, that probably means the 415 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: shots would be a bad idea for for that age group. 416 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: But so so so that's myocharditis. But what I would 417 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: say is there's this issue, and we've talked about this, 418 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: you and I and book in the past about all 419 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: CANS deaths, that all cons deaths are up all over 420 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: the world in the in the countries that used these 421 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: vaccines in the last year. And when I talked to 422 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: you about a month or a month and a half ago, 423 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: I was sort of optimistic that we were going back 424 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: down to base five. But unfortunately some new data that's 425 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: come out since then suggests that I was I was wrong, 426 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 1: that we're not going back back down to base five, 427 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: that in Europe all COG mortality remains really hot. So so, 428 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: Alex bask is, what is your working theory for that? 429 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: I mean, just tell us, like, what do you think 430 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: is going on. I think that there's a I think 431 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: that there's a long term problem with the shots, and 432 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: there's several different explanations for that. And to be clear, 433 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: we're not talking about a doubling or a tripling immortality. 434 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: We're not even talking about you know, and some people 435 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: will say, oh, forty percent and working age people, that's 436 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 1: not what it looks like. It looks like right now 437 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: it's ten or fifteen percent, And some of that is 438 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: due to the fact that COVID actually still continues at 439 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: a low level. But but but nonetheless that's a big number, okay, 440 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: ten or fifteen percent mortality above the historical norm of 441 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: you know, the prev pre COVID, pre vaccine era was 442 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: an enough to shut the world down when we thought 443 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: it was COVID. Okay, So it's a big number. It's 444 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of death in Europe, It's hundreds of 445 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: thousand death in the United States. It's millions of deaths 446 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: worldwide a year, certainly over a million. That's a big number. 447 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 1: And there's lots of ways in which the vaccines could 448 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: be contributed to this. They could be contributing in to it. 449 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: By now there's evidence that they change our response to 450 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: COVID itself in a way that may lead people to 451 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: have a harder time clearing the infection, and for really 452 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: old sick people that might be enough to push them 453 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: over the edge. We don't know. It could be that 454 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: there's spike proteins still floating around in people's blood streams, 455 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 1: in some people's bloodstreams at a very low level, and 456 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: that's causing For example, mirocreditis that there's a paper that 457 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: came out a few days ago, suggesting that we don't 458 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: know it could be that in some people. Again, the 459 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: vaccine itself isn't cleared quickly, although the companies and the 460 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 1: regulators set it would be, and for some reason it 461 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: looks around. What I'm really saying to you is we 462 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: need to investigate this. This needs to be a priority 463 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: at the highest level of government. These companies have to 464 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: be forced these close what they know, if they know anything. 465 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 1: There needs to be serious epidemiological work done it, and 466 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: there needs to be serious work at the cellular levels done, 467 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: and it needs to be done without anyone being afraid 468 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: of what the consequences of what the findings might be. 469 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 1: So if the findings are that the vaccines actually don't 470 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: cause any of this, and we're all and that you know, 471 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: people like me are completely wrong, and the extra deaths 472 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,479 Speaker 1: are just the result of you know, COVID after effects, 473 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,719 Speaker 1: so be it. But if the findings are that vaccines 474 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 1: have caused this in some way and that multiple boosters 475 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: have made it worse, we need to know that, both 476 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: from a public health point view and to know if 477 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: there's anything we can do about it, and it is 478 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: it is approaching criminal right now that people won't discuss 479 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: this at at you know, at the levels of government 480 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 1: and academia and science and at the corporate levels where 481 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: it needs to be discussed. Well, this ties in Alex 482 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 1: because I texted you some over the weekend because doctor 483 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: Fauci came out and said, you cannot even mention the 484 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 1: possibility that the COVID shot could be involved in DeMar 485 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: Hamlin's collapse on the football theater and my antenna, especially 486 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: with doctor Fauci, and I'm sure with yours and I 487 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: know it for Buck as well. Goes up in a 488 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: big way when doctor faucis especially, But many of these 489 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 1: public health experts say you can't even mention this because 490 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: generally what they say you can't mention ends up being true. 491 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: Do you think and we're never going to know for sure? 492 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: I think is the answer based on the health related issues, 493 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: But there are a lot of young people who are 494 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: suddenly having hard issues. We've never seen somebody collapse like 495 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: Damar Hamlin did on Monday Night Football a little over 496 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: a week ago. Do you think we should be investigating 497 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: and asking whether the COVID shot could have been involved. 498 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: What did you think of Bouc's commentary there. I mean, 499 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: of course we should be investigating. And and by the way, 500 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: there is now evidence. There's a paper that came out 501 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: last year saying that people who suffered myo charditis were 502 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: more likely if they were struck in an athletic activity, 503 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: to have ventricular fibrillation and collapse. This paper came out 504 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: before Mar Hamilton. I'm sorry, Damar Hamlin. It has nothing 505 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: to do with him, which means you can actually trust 506 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: it more because it's not in any way bias and 507 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: it was actually about rugby players. Okay, am I saying 508 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: that I know that's what caused us. No, I do not, 509 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: You do not, and doctor Anthony Fouction does not. But 510 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: this notion that we have to avert the evidence of 511 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: our own eyes and instantly say, oh, this couldn't have 512 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: been these vaccines which were given to a billion people 513 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: worldwide with essentially no long term studies being done on 514 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: what their effects might be. That's that's crazy. And so yeah, 515 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: I mean, this is just another example of this. But 516 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: people like you and me are you know, there's this 517 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: effort to shout us down. I think unfortunately for the 518 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: public health experts in government, there's now a little bit 519 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: of the pendulum to swing the other way where people 520 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: are angry, and not just people like you and me 521 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: who questioned this last year or you know, even in 522 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, but people who you know, sort of 523 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: just woken up to this. They don't they don't like 524 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: being told that the evidence of their own eyes they 525 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: can't they can't judge. And so I think the public 526 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: health authorities need to take they need to think about 527 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: what they're doing, because they are. They are causing a 528 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: crisis of confidence that it is going to be very, 529 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: very hard to undo. Alex, you are forgetting the last, 530 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: final and most essential command of the party, which is 531 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: to ignore the evidence of your eyes, as you may 532 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: well recall, Yes, yes, I I you know, look we 533 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: I and I hoped that we were coming out on 534 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: the other side. And it's trying. You know, I've been 535 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: covering COVID in the vaccines for three years. It has 536 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: eaten my life. But unfortunately it doesn't look like we're 537 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: coming is it, even if we only have like a 538 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: minute and we really we're about running. I just want 539 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: to know, I do you think it's even possible to 540 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: come up with now we're going to run the gambit 541 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: here h come up with an experiment to prove that 542 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: that that maths don't work and this is idiotic? Or 543 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: are we just are we stuck with like the dead 544 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: Enders forever. Oh, there's plenty of evidence there, and there's 545 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: plenty of experiments you can run. They just have to 546 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: run them. When they've been run, they show that masks 547 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: don't work. By the way, there's evidence. You know, we 548 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: could if we really wanted to know whether the vaccines 549 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: were causing harm or not. There's there's ways we could 550 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: do that. It's complicated, but we could do it. So 551 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: but you know, when guys like Scott God we want 552 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: to shut down debate and then not tell the truth 553 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: about what it is they're doing, it gets hard. And 554 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: so I mean, I'm going to keep pushing. Uh, you know, 555 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: I hope everyone will take a look at the piece 556 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: which is on my substack and which is on my 557 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: Twitter feed. But you know, I'm going to wind up 558 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: suing Fizer and suing the White House, and hopefully we'll 559 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: get some sense of how those two entities were connecting 560 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: and what they were talking about in the summer of 561 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, because that really does seem to be 562 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: a crucial moment in all of this. Alex Barns and everybody. Alex, 563 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: thank you so much, sir. We'll talk to you soon. SAX. Guys. 564 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: Happy twenty twenty three. You two my friends. 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Yeah, Well, what I was going to 602 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: ask two is a lot of these bands that tour 603 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: now are not the originals, right, having a bunch of 604 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: the Beach Boys died and they've kind of brought in 605 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 1: new people. I have no idea. I know that all 606 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: of my favorite lead singers from the nineties unfortunately have 607 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: passed away pretty much so well, I mean, that's what 608 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like for a lot of the bands. That's 609 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: why I'm saying from the nineties, there are a few 610 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: of them that have made it through. That's why Food Fighters, 611 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: you know, has managed to stay together all that they 612 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 1: just lost their drummer. But I feel like a lot 613 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: of these, like Lyonyrd Skynerd is a good example. I 614 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: don't even know who was in the Lynyrd Skynerd band now. 615 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 1: I have no idea how many of them are still left, 616 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: but I know that I think at least one or 617 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,720 Speaker 1: two of the Beach Boys have died, so they've remade 618 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: the band along the way, so you're not getting the 619 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,919 Speaker 1: original band anymore. John wrote in to say that Kiss 620 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: Rocks still listen to it. Never regret going to a 621 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: Kiss concert. By the way, Jean and Paul are Republican leading. 622 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: The last time I checked, I thought Kiss Kid, I 623 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: thought one of those guys was a huge lib. Am 624 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 1: I am I confusing with maybe another? I assume so 625 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:29,240 Speaker 1: many of these bands are super left wing, maybe because 626 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: they get way more attention than they would if they 627 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: were concerted. Now, look, I mean there are many country 628 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: acts that are big Trump supporters. I want Kid Rock 629 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: is a ridiculously fine concert to go to. He is 630 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: a monster Trump guy, and that makes me like kid 631 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 1: Rock more. And then you've got Taylor Swift, who I 632 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: will acknowledge as an incredible talent who's going to be 633 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: a multi billionaire. But she has weighed in on all 634 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: sorts of local Tennessee political races and I and that 635 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: makes me like her less because she is super left wing. 636 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: Justin's amazing, isn't it. You know? I don't know. I 637 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: bet Carrie loves Taylor Swift, right, Um, I gotta check 638 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: with Carrie on that one. I would think that if 639 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,399 Speaker 1: I would think she's I mean, they're around the same age, 640 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,760 Speaker 1: like kind of wheelhouse. I would be surprised if Carrie's 641 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: not a I'd like Taylor Swift. Uh, you know I would. 642 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 1: I would go to a Taylor Swift concert with my wife, 643 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 1: not solo. Would be weird. Why are all why are 644 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: all these musicians comedies? Questions for another time? Maybe that 645 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: would be really weird if I just went solo to 646 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 1: a Taylor Swift concert, Like if you came in and 647 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 1: like people were emailing the vi IP and they were 648 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 1: like I heard Clay Travis was solo at the Taylor 649 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 1: The social media the photos alone of you standing at 650 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 1: a Taylor Swift concert, rocking out with a t Swift 651 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 1: T shirt on would be worth it, Like, can we 652 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 1: maybe raise some money here for this or something? You know, 653 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 1: we'll do something for charity. Clay goes to a t 654 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: Swift concert, I think we're onto something solo would be 655 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 1: would would be definitely difficult to explore. It has to 656 00:36:58,480 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: be