1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 2: Single best idea. It's going to be a short edition 3 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 2: because I have to communic host midtown given the UN meetings. Uh, 4 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: that's a challenge to say. At the least New York City. 5 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 2: The island of Manhattan is just packed with dignitaries and 6 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 2: escorts and blocks shut down in the rest. Tomorrow, David 7 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 2: Goer and myself at the Earthshot Innovation Awards at the 8 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: Park A Plaza Hotel, with good conversations with a solid 9 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 2: tilt towards geopolitics and international relations. On the market now, 10 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 2: John Stolfus an important voice. He's at OpCo with decades 11 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 2: of experience. It's not so much that he's a bull. 12 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 2: It's not so much that he said be in the market. 13 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 2: It's as Stolfus is rationalized through the might of the 14 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: American economy. He continues that view. Here is John Stulphus 15 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 2: of OpCo. 16 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 3: You know, Tom, I usually prefer to do that in 17 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: December because but then and this year we'll be beyond 18 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 3: the election. But I would suspect likely higher as long 19 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 3: as we don't get that. Barton Biggs and the old 20 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 3: days would have called a bolt from the blue or 21 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 3: a socked to the jaw. We'd have to think that 22 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 3: things are just basically improving if we can just keep 23 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 3: it moderate growth with resilience in jobs and economic growth 24 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 3: in corporate earnings. I think we're good to go as 25 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 3: long as we avoid getting complacent, and as long as 26 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 3: we can avoid having the bolt from the blue hit US. 27 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 3: I think considerably higher and well beyond the fifty nine 28 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 3: hundred target. 29 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: Probably John Sofas with OpCo. Matthew Winkler, the founder of 30 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 2: Bloomberg News, joined us today for spirited discussion on the 31 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: state of a swing state, Wisconsin, and in that conversation, 32 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: Matt Winkler highlighted how everyone's been wrong over the last 33 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 2: eighteen months within polling over the state of the American consumer. 34 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: John Sophizer continuing the theme of resilience, a decent economy, 35 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 2: a solid economy. I don't know, but little talk there 36 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: of a recession, A talk incredibly challenging geopolitics at this time. 37 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: We touch upon it. David Gerr's been a foundation to 38 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 2: our coverage there. But over the weekend, just what was 39 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: witnessed with the new fear of all this technology on 40 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: the border of northern Lebanton, pagers and walkie talkies and 41 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 2: all that. What a joy to speak to Daniel Tannenbaum 42 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 2: today at Oliver Wyman. He's truly expert on geopolitics, our 43 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: fears summed up over decades, and much of it wrapped 44 00:02:55,160 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: around the idea of sanctions in their efficacy over the 45 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 2: war in Ukraine. Here's Dan Tannembaum in these uncertain times 46 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: on sanctions. 47 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: That's a bit of the question that I'm hearing and 48 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: that I'm having discussions with people throughout the week, is 49 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: have US sanctions lost their potency? If I think about 50 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: before the Iran deal was enacted and then ultimately scrapped, 51 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: there was a pretty healthy fear in most pockets of 52 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: the world of being on the wrong side of US 53 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: sanctions because the fines were substantial, the embarrassment was significant. 54 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: With Russia, I'm not seeing the same fear Venezuela. We 55 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: continue to sanction from a US standpoint, but Durou still 56 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: in power. So how do you actually bring the fear 57 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: factor back to sanctions? 58 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 2: Daniel Tanbaum Oliver why I'm in there and his expertise sanctions, 59 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: and he was really brilliant on the uncertainty to supply 60 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: chains given some of our geopolitics, and of course that 61 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: addressed here in New York in a coming hours and 62 00:03:55,480 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: days at the UN meetings. 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