1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: This is intergalactic John, This is Alien Sam on the 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: International Okay Storytime podcast station, and we have some human 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: stories coming up, not alien, but before we make a landing, 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: stick around for this two minute not alien ad break 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: before we get to these interstellar stories. 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 2: I threw away my husband's Xbox because he refused to 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: look for our missing dog. 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 3: Well what if the dog was sucked into the xbox 9 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 3: like Jumanjim For starters. 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: I'm a nurse, thirty five female. I have been extremely 11 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 2: busy these past three months. Even writing this post is 12 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 2: a privilege, and I am having to do this in 13 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 2: bits and pieces. I also gave birth to my daughter 14 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 2: six months ago. I have an eight year old son 15 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 2: as well. When I'm not working, I take care of 16 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 2: my children. By the way, this comes from deleted and 17 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: if you want to submit your own stories, go to 18 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: the r slash Okay Storytime Separate it and I'm Angie, 19 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: I'm Dakota, I'm Carly, and we're here to give good 20 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: advice Goofily. But we don't have all the answers. We 21 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 2: just know what we would do. But let us know 22 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: what you would do in the comments, so Opie says 23 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: in January twenty nineteen, my son suddenly developed this strong 24 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 2: desire to have a dog. He begged and begged for 25 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: a puppy from my husband thirty five mail. I protested 26 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: against that because I had just found out that I 27 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 2: was pregnant. Jesus, my husband said that we should let 28 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 2: our son have a puppy to teach him some responsibility 29 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 2: and that he would have some practice to take care 30 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: of his baby sibling. He had also promised that he 31 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 2: would help our son take care of the dog. I 32 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 2: was absolutely unconvinced, but I had to give in. But 33 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 2: I had to give in eventually because my husband had 34 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,839 Speaker 2: already agreed and I didn't want to cause further fights. 35 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 2: Five days ago, my son accidentally left the back door 36 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 2: of our house open and the dog ran away. These 37 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: five days were also some of the busiest, most grueling 38 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: days of my work, and I had to take up 39 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,199 Speaker 2: night shifts because a colleague had fallen sick. Our son 40 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: first went to my husband for help. He refused to 41 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: help him, so that it was his my son's responsibility 42 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: to take care of the dog and he had to 43 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: do something about it himself. My husband has the privilege 44 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: of working from home. He works at a He works 45 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: for maybe three to four hours a day and plays 46 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 2: Xbox the entire time, and sometimes gets out to check 47 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: up on our daughter. He literally has no added pressures. 48 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: Five days ago, when our son told me in tears, 49 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 2: Dad won't look for tip beef, I talked to my husband, 50 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: who said that it would teach our son some responsibility 51 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: to take care of things in the future, which I 52 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 2: found very callous since a dog is a living, sentient 53 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 2: being and not a thing. He was playing Xbox when 54 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 2: I was talking to him as well. He also said 55 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: he wouldn't look for the dog or anything. Yesterday, after 56 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 2: coming home at night, the first thing I did was 57 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: unplug the Xbox console and controller and throw it in 58 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: the trash. Gain this morning, before going to work, my 59 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: husband threw a fit when he didn't find his Xbox 60 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: in a living room. I told him that I'd thrown 61 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 2: it away because he had a dependency on it that 62 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: he couldn't even get up and help our distressed son. 63 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 2: When I came back from work, he told me he 64 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 2: had found his Xbox in the trash since the garbage 65 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: truck hadn't arrived yet. Now he's being incredibly snarky, giving 66 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: me the cold shoulder, and he's angry because his controller 67 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: is and working. He also hasn't taken any measures to 68 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 2: look for our dog. Our and our mutual best friend 69 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 2: called and said that my reaction was incredibly childish. Now 70 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 2: I'm spending my free day calling every neighbor of ours, 71 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: making internet posters, contacting animal shelters and animal control to 72 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: see if Tippy has returned, has turned up anywhere, while 73 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 2: consoling my heartbroken son. Am I the a hole and 74 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 2: we have some comments, but I want to hear yours. 75 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 3: I know you're too busy to probably even think about 76 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 3: divorcing this man, but the fact that you have to 77 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 3: even ask this question infuriates me. 78 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's as. 79 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 3: He doesn't care that his son's dog ran away and 80 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 3: that his son is distraught about it, and he's playing 81 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 3: video games all day. I'm honestly mad that you didn't 82 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 3: run the Xbox under the sink first and then. 83 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 4: Throw it away. 84 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like I feel like. 85 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 4: I would have smashed it with hammers. 86 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like objectively, it's like always a good 87 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: idea to, you know, talk about things a little bit 88 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: more before just throwing things away like that. But at 89 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 2: the same time. I totally get why you did that. 90 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 3: I really this this feels like one of those things 91 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 3: where it's like there's nothing to talk about. 92 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 4: It's like you're you're. 93 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 3: Acting like a like an actual like psycho, without like 94 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,679 Speaker 3: feeling your emotions, like yeah, what who are you? 95 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 4: Right? Who are you? 96 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 3: You look our son in the eyes while he cries 97 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 3: about his missing dog and you're like, well, I guess 98 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 3: that'll peach you a lesson and in the future you'll 99 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 3: be more responsible. 100 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,799 Speaker 4: I gotta go play my game. 101 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like you had time to look for your xbox, 102 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 2: but you didn't have time to look for a dog. 103 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 2: I know that probably takes a lot longer because your 104 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 2: xbox you know where that is, but still it's the principal. 105 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 2: We do have some comments comming Number one says, Wow, 106 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 2: your husband expected an eight year old to go look 107 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 2: through the town for the lost dog by himself because 108 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: he wanted to play video games instead. Well, what a 109 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: crappy husband and father he Your kid won't forget it, 110 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: that's for sure. Not the a hole. I would have 111 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 2: saved the xbox thrown out the husband. That's a good Yeah, 112 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: give the xbox to the kid. Come number two, I'm 113 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 2: worried about your six month old daughter he gets up 114 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 2: to check on her. Sometimes, that's some serious neglect. There's 115 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 2: so much development happening to her right now, and he 116 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 2: should be reading to her, spending to any time with her, 117 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 2: et cetera. You need to intervene or right now. Ope, 118 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: he said, honestly, genuinely speaking, I wasn't aware that he 119 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 2: was this neglectful. Oh okay, so maybe he is. I 120 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: have been incredibly busy for these months, and I didn't 121 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 2: have time to check up on my baby girl. I 122 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 2: used to be home for the first three months of 123 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: her life, and then I had to suddenly get back 124 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 2: to work. Not just my husband, it seems like I 125 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: am a crappy mom too. Someone else responds, I don't 126 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 2: think it's uneasy. Yeah for a day if that, and 127 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 2: already has experience of raising a child to be trusted 128 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: after another one. That expectation is not failing. It's just 129 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 2: reasonable given the other pressures you have. The failing is 130 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 2: in him being such a poor excuse for a human being, 131 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 2: let alone a father, that he can't even manage that. Jesus, 132 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 2: I'm middle aged, child free and even I would expect 133 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 2: myself to put more effort than that. My husband is 134 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 2: a lawyer. A lawyer's job depends on how many clients 135 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 2: he has. My husband currently has almost no clients due 136 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 2: to obvious reasons. He told me this himself, so his 137 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 2: workload is significantly less. Yeah, okay. First update, Tippy still 138 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 2: hasn't been found yet. My shift edited about thirty minutes ago, 139 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 2: and I'll go home and drive around my neighborhood and 140 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 2: surrounding areas to look for him. I have posted some 141 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 2: pictures of Tippy on my profile for those who requested. 142 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 2: Husband is still sulking about his controller. I'm at my 143 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 2: wits end. Update number two Tippy husband found. Let's go 144 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: and that was a short update. Update number three. First 145 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 2: of all, thank you everyone for your immensely kind and 146 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 2: considerate responses. I am thankful to each and every one 147 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 2: of you for giving me such beautiful and encouraging messages. 148 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 2: These kept me going no joke. Tippy was found two 149 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 2: miles away from our house a day after I posted 150 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 2: ads and posters on several platforms and websites. Living alone 151 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 2: had found him near her street, starving and exhausted. All 152 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 2: she responded to my calls for help on Facebook, and 153 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: I'm utterly thankful to her. We need more people like 154 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 2: her in this world. My son and Tippy are both 155 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: ecstatic to be reunited. All He takes care of him 156 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 2: just like he did before, only now I have some 157 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: time on my hands to help him as well. However, 158 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 2: my son is still wary of his father, and he'll 159 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 2: likely remain so for a long time. Yeah. If he's 160 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 2: eight years old and all that happened, I feel like 161 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 2: he will definitely remember that. 162 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, talk about a core memory. Your dad just ignoring 163 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 3: your distress, Yeah, and. 164 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: Playing video games instead. Probably wouldn't even let the son 165 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 2: play video games. And as for my husband, he now 166 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 2: treats Tippy as if he doesn't exist. He went and 167 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 2: bought a new Xbox controller right after Tippy was brought 168 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 2: back and now demands that I pay him for damaging 169 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: his property. I am willing to pay because I realized 170 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 2: my impulsive response was not the best decision, nor was 171 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 2: it the best way to do with my situation. My 172 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 2: approach towards my husband's Xbox and my husband's approach towards Tippy, 173 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 2: we're both horrible and irrational. But I would argue that 174 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 2: his response to the loss of Tippy was more horrible. 175 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, you really need to get rid of this guy. 176 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 4: It's unbelievable. 177 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 3: Yeah for real, because that's I don't know unless he 178 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 3: has like a come to Jesus moment breakthrough of like, 179 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 3: oh my god, I can't I don't know what's wrong 180 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 3: with me. I don't see myself staying with this guy 181 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 3: because it's insane. 182 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's pretty wacked, doodle. I started to notice 183 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 2: some tender areas and red skin around my daughter's diaper 184 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: area about two weeks ago. She was uncomfortable, irritable, and 185 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 2: put up a fuss every time I tried to change 186 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 2: her diaper. Turns out that she was suffering from a 187 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 2: diaper rash. That's right. I forgot that he was also 188 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 2: neglectful of their six month old child. 189 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, get this guy, dude. Uh yeah, get him out. 190 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 2: Of Diaper rashes can occur for a variety of reasons, 191 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 2: none of which applied to my daughter. She wasn't on antibiotics, 192 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 2: she had soft cotton clothes, her bowel movements were normal, 193 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 2: and we weren't using any new products on her. This 194 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: left only one option. Her diapers weren't being changed frequently. 195 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 2: I was away from home for five days. I asked 196 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: my husband how many times he changed her diapers? And 197 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 2: we do have more to the story. I want to 198 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: get into it to know how many diapers he changed. First, 199 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 2: a baby her age needs her diaper changed at least 200 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 2: once every three hours. My husband outright said that he 201 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 2: changed them every seven hours or so for those five 202 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 2: days because he didn't think that they needed to be 203 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: changed as much as before since she was now six 204 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 2: months old. But they just start poohing less? What what's 205 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 2: up with that? 206 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 5: Crazy? 207 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 6: They just magically learn how to use the toilet next? 208 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, six months is enough to stand up and walk 209 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 2: to the toilet. 210 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 4: What is going on? 211 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 2: That's so crazy? Oh yeah, okay, Opie continues. He had 212 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 2: raised the sun with me before. It's a ridiculous excuse. 213 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 2: The diaper rash is gone now, but I'm scared to 214 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 2: ever leave my baby with him when I go to work. 215 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 2: I will have to sit down and reconsider everything and 216 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 2: have a long talk with him soon. It's inevitable. He 217 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 2: still plays xboxes just like he used to before. I 218 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: will never forget how a bunch of strangers jumps to 219 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 2: help me find our dog. Thank you you lovely people, 220 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 2: and that is the end of that story. 221 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 7: My aunt gave me her lifetime savings because the rapture 222 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 7: is coming good for you. Then, for those of you 223 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 7: who are unaware, there's a faction of Christians out there 224 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 7: who believe that the rapture is going to happen on Tuesday. 225 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 7: My aunt is one of those people, and she has 226 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 7: been going around telling everyone how people will float into 227 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 7: the sky and whatnot. By the way, this comes from 228 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 7: motor Log eighty six. And if you want to submit 229 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 7: your own stories, go to the r slash Okay story 230 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 7: jump subreddits. 231 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 4: I'm Riley, I'm. 232 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 2: Angie, I'm Keon, and we're here to give good advice goofully. 233 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 7: But we do not have all the answers. We only 234 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 7: know what we do know. But if you know something 235 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 7: you'd like to add, please put in the comments. We 236 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 7: would love to read them. And Opie says, I'm queer 237 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 7: and agnostic, and while I was raised loosely Christian, I 238 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 7: haven't identified with the religion since I was in the 239 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 7: fifth grade. Most of my family on my mother's side, 240 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 7: except for my aunt, are Christian, but not particularly devoted 241 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 7: and certainly not as much as her, nor do they 242 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 7: believe in the rapture. She apparently has become very very 243 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 7: involved in the religion at some point in college. My 244 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 7: entire life, I've been ridiculed by my aunt for being queer. 245 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 7: It got so bad that my mother had several sit 246 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 7: down conversations with her to tell her to stop pestering me. 247 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 7: She would never but one day my mother seriously put 248 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 7: her foot down. She made it clear that my family 249 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 7: accepted me and if my aunt when it's toned down, 250 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 7: she'd no longer be welcomed in our home or around me. 251 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 7: During this conversation, my aunt allegedly called my family bad 252 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 7: Christians for not sending me to conversion therapy, and she 253 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 7: said they would regret not making me repent once the 254 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 7: rapture was upon us. 255 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 2: That was a few years ago, and. 256 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 7: Ever since then, I mostly just get sideways glances from 257 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 7: her at family events and the occasional Bible verse texts 258 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 7: which I can manage. I'm now an adult, nineteen and 259 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 7: in college, and I was recently contacted by my aunt 260 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 7: to meet up with her for lunch. I assume that 261 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 7: she maybe had a change of heart and wanted to 262 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 7: apologize for how she treated me. This was not the 263 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 7: case when we met. She essentially went on a long 264 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 7: winded spiral about how she pities me and feels so 265 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 7: sorry that I never repented, and how I and the 266 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 7: rest of my family will be left behind because we 267 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 7: never fully gave our lives to Christ. At the end 268 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 7: of her monologue, she pulled out a stack of cash 269 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 7: and one hundred dollars bills and handed it to me, 270 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 7: telling me that she wanted to give away her life 271 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 7: savings to the less fortunate so she wouldn't be needing 272 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 7: it when the rapture comes into lives hers her to 273 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 7: the Lord. I try to talk her out of it, 274 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 7: but she insisted in practically forced the money into my 275 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 7: hands before abruptly walking away. When I counted it when 276 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 7: I got home, it was slightly over forty k in cash. 277 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 7: Here's why I think I would be the a hole 278 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 7: when the rapture and Neville does happen. I will have 279 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 7: no plans of giving the money back to her. I 280 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 7: know she will be going through some kind of long 281 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 7: and enduring religious psychosis. But I could honestly use this 282 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 7: type of cash to put me through college and handle 283 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 7: other expenses and she gave it to me willingly. 284 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 4: Would I be the a hole if I. 285 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 7: Didn't give her back the money when the rapture doesn't happen. 286 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 4: We have an edit here. 287 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 7: My parents are now aware of this because she apparently 288 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 7: decided to try and gift my younger sister or car 289 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 7: a relatively new nice for Bronco. I told my parents 290 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 7: about the money, and my mother, who is also Christian, 291 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 7: told me that would be the most ethical thing to 292 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 7: do is if I gave it back to her, that 293 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 7: I need to be empathetic to the struggle she clearly 294 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 7: has been going through. My dad, however, thinks that if 295 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 7: she was stupid enough to give away her life savings 296 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 7: on a win, the money is better off going towards 297 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 7: some education. Anyways, I'm still torn because this is keep 298 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 7: the money, pretend to be raptured, start a new. 299 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 2: Life, pretend to be raptured. 300 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 4: There we go. I was the only person that was raptured, right, Well. 301 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 2: But if you're a rapture, doesn't that mean you go 302 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 2: to happen or are you just like born? 303 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 4: And yeah? 304 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 7: So the concept of like the rapture is that during 305 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 7: the revelation times, whenever that happens the people that believe 306 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 7: in Jesus will go to heaven and everyone else will 307 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 7: stay and endure seven years of like pretty bad stuff happening. 308 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 7: I don't know if this is true. I haven't read 309 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 7: Revelations because I'm honestly kind of terrified by it. But 310 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 7: there is a thing that says like the Christians may 311 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 7: go before the seven years of all the bad things happening, 312 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 7: or may go after the seven years of all the 313 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 7: bad things happening. I forget. I need to clear up 314 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 7: my mind on that. I could be very wrong. I'll 315 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 7: read up on it, but basically that's the concept. Yeah, 316 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 7: it's like the in games Avengers as kind of what 317 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 7: will happen, except for not dust people will float? Yeah, 318 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 7: uh not. The nippick is pronounced jift. Think you can find? 319 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 7: Can find? You had a hilarious comment, She's like, didn't 320 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 7: that rapture already happen? Isn't Jasus statium on leash somewhere 321 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 7: Sarah in, Yeah, great movie. 322 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 8: Well, the thing is a lot of people, like a 323 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 8: lot of people love to do this. Oh yeah, this 324 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 8: is not the first time. It's not gonna be the 325 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 8: last time. Is it happening? 326 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 2: For hundreds of years. 327 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's been happening for a while, just to cause 328 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 8: like stress and turmoil and like, oh, test your faith. 329 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 2: But like, oh boy, I'm really curious as to like 330 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 2: how his that guy's social circle acts towards him after 331 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 2: it didn't happen. 332 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 8: I know, I don't know if it's this guy. I 333 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 8: think it was the guy in twenty eleven or twenty 334 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 8: like around that time, was like, there's another one that 335 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 8: was like. 336 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: Twelve yeah, yeah, twenty that was like. 337 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 2: The mind calendar though no, no. 338 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 8: It was that, but there was another one with like 339 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 8: the rapture. He was spreading it and he was like, yes, 340 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 8: I'm the one who's claiming this. And then when it 341 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 8: didn't happen, a lot of people were trying to sue 342 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 8: him because again something like this happened a little bit 343 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 8: funny or like you gave us like false beliefs. Wow, 344 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 8: and uh, I don't know how that went, but I'm 345 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 8: pretty sure that guy. 346 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I'm. 347 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 2: Gonna look in that's interesting. 348 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, Okay, anyways, update, I just wanted to clarify a 349 00:15:58,320 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 7: few things. 350 00:15:59,320 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 4: I am a buy. 351 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 7: A few people here thought I was a man. I 352 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 7: have no idea why she would want to give me, 353 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 7: of all people, the money. I'm just as confused as 354 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 7: the rest of you. From what I've grasped, it seems 355 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 7: like it was some final act of kindness towards somebody 356 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 7: she takes great pity on. I don't know, lmaol. As 357 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 7: a few you said, I should probably leave some kind 358 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 7: of trail to prove this was freely given and that 359 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 7: I didn't steal from her. So there are no legal reports, 360 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 7: so there are no legal repercussions should I choose to 361 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 7: keep it. I am still not sold on any course 362 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 7: of action yet, especially because it isn't Wednesday yet. So 363 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 7: I sent her an email thanking her for the gift 364 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 7: and reiterated that I did not originally want it, but 365 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 7: it was just oh so very gracious of her to 366 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 7: give the money to a poor center like me. I 367 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 7: don't want to take advantage of the mentally ill, but 368 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 7: the selfish part of me sees this as repercussions for 369 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 7: all the torment I endured when I was younger. I've 370 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 7: heard a few people say to invest the money instead 371 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 7: of immediately putting it towards college, and if I keep 372 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 7: it that it will definitely be considered I don't expect 373 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 7: to update again until the rapture has passed, but I 374 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 7: will update once. 375 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 4: That rolls around. 376 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 2: Me edit. 377 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 7: Doing my own research and the current rapture craze going, 378 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 7: they think the rapture will either happen Tuesday the twenty 379 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 7: third or Wednesday, twenty fourth, so I will update on Thursday. 380 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 7: It was gonna happen around my birthday, which September. I 381 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 7: was like, why is it gonna happen on September three third? 382 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 2: Like come on? Yeah. 383 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 7: It also worries me when that craze happens because like, 384 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 7: not that I think it's gonna happen, but like I 385 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 7: know what will come and I'm like just imagining, like 386 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 7: if that happens right now, like. 387 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 2: Oh think what that would be? Like oh yeah, yeah, 388 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 2: it'd be wild. 389 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 7: Well what does the rapture mean to? Like, whenever you 390 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 7: hear that word, what do you think of? 391 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 6: WHOA? 392 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,719 Speaker 2: My image of it is just like okay, God just 393 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 2: like opens up the sky and it's just like yo, 394 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 2: and then just like all the good guys, like well, 395 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 2: good guys, all the likes are just gonna like whoop 396 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 2: up to heaven in like a ray of sun and 397 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 2: then everyone else is just gonna be like all right, 398 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 2: yeah and then continue. 399 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 7: On they have Yeah, yeah, I mean that's kind of the. 400 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 2: I mean in the Revelations, don't like all these monsters 401 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 2: come out. 402 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 7: So after that happens, there's also gonna be like horrorse 403 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 7: sized cockroaches crawling around the earth, and there's not gonna 404 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 7: be water anymore, and all this other crazy stuff. 405 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 4: There's so much that happens. 406 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 7: I love watching YouTube videos on this yeah being explained 407 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 7: because I'm like, oh my god. Yeah, And like the 408 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 7: craziest part about it is like the guy that wrote it, 409 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 7: like God was basically like you getting all this, I'm 410 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 7: showing you what the end of the world's gonna look like, 411 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 7: getting all this, and like imagine having to write that book. 412 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,959 Speaker 2: And be like okay, okay, I'm sorry, this is scary. 413 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 2: Stuff is gonna happen. 414 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, Like imagine if he forgot something and he like 415 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 7: like he might be like, oh yeah. Also, everyone's head's 416 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 7: gonna explode on the third sneeze, right, all right? Update 417 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 7: two three days later, as promised, here's the update everyone wanted. 418 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 7: And I'll make a brief No, my aunt did not 419 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 7: care raptured. 420 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 4: No, I will not be keeping the. 421 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 7: Money, which I know will upset some of you. No, 422 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 7: my sister did not get to keep the car, as 423 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 7: I know some people were wondering. Essentially, as a lot 424 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 7: of you predicted. Once a rapture didn't happen, my amp 425 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 7: kept moving the goalpost. It went from happening on Tuesday 426 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 7: happening on Wednesday. Because it's still Tuesday for some parts 427 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 7: of the world, it's happening sometime this month. I decided 428 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 7: not to keep the money, and it's not for any 429 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 7: of the reasons I initially thought it would be. Trying 430 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 7: to give me the money and giving my sister a 431 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 7: car were not the only thing she did. Because she 432 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 7: thought the rapture was coming. She quit her job as well, 433 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 7: and I found out this morning she allegigedly confessed to 434 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 7: her husband that she was having an affair with a coworker 435 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 7: fellow church goer she works and added for a megachurch 436 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 7: in our area. 437 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 4: Car what keyboard megachurch, keyward mega church, good. 438 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 8: Fried good for her to way to just just you know, omit, 439 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 8: not omit, but just reveal everything. 440 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, repinning your sins. 441 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 2: Oh my, and you thought you were gonna be raptured. Dude, dude, dude, 442 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 2: can you still get raptured if you're blinking your neighbor 443 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 2: or something? 444 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 4: And I just have to repent. 445 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 7: Like the idea of being one with God is being 446 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 7: like my like, sorry, man, I confess to you, these 447 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 7: are my sins, and then like I still love you. 448 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 7: Can still be doing bad stuff, but like it's yeah, 449 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 7: I'm not the one that gets to approve people into 450 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 7: heaven or not. That's just what I learned. I think 451 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 7: the reason she was doing all of this was to 452 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 7: get right with God before the rapture, buy her way 453 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 7: into heaven, and have no secrets laying on her chest. 454 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 4: I don't know. 455 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 7: I can't pretend to understand the logic of somebody who's 456 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 7: a rapture believer. Also, the way that she's going about this, 457 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 7: in my eyes as a Christian, is wrong because you 458 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 7: can't buy your way out of your sinful life. Only 459 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 7: Jesus can. So you doing all these good deeds is 460 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 7: not gonna get you into heaven. It's being buddies with Jesus, 461 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 7: just like being like Jesus, you are the one and only, 462 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 7: not not Oh, I'm gonna pay you, so I look 463 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,719 Speaker 7: like a better person, and since you know the rapture 464 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 7: did not happen, her husband wants to file for divorce. 465 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 7: I'm not particularly worried about her job working for the church. 466 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 7: I'm pretty convinced they will take her back without a 467 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 7: fuss because of how enshrined she was into the community. 468 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 7: But one, I read a lot of your comments and 469 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,360 Speaker 7: I don't want to prove her right about how wicked 470 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 7: queer people and agnostic slash atheists are by keeping it. 471 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 7: And two, she will definitely need it for her upcoming 472 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 7: legal fees. I'm unsure if this is her entire life savings. 473 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 7: But regardless, after letting my emotions cool a bit, I 474 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 7: know I wouldn't feel right about keeping it. Yes there is, 475 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 7: but okay, yeah, any I mean, Keilon, what do you think? 476 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: Good on you? 477 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 6: Like? 478 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 8: I think it's just a funny thing. You could just 479 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 8: laugh at it and be like, yeah, take your money 480 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 8: back like I clicked, nothing ever happened kind of thing 481 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 8: like no harm, no foul, good like she he's already 482 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 8: going through it. The karma is being served right back, 483 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 8: and just keep your distance away from hers. It's a 484 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 8: funny thing that you and your family can laugh at, 485 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 8: be like, Wow, you remember that I'm. 486 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 7: Gonna finish a story. Regardless, my mom approved of Mi's decision. 487 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 7: My dad was a bit disappointed, but mostly because he 488 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 7: was excited about potentially not having to spend any more 489 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 7: money on me for college. Oh and she has not 490 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 7: explicitly asked for it back yet. I imagine it's because 491 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 7: everything that's gone on has her feeling defeated or just 492 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,719 Speaker 7: generally has her in a low place. But even if 493 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 7: she doesn't, I plan on fully giving it back to 494 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 7: her when I can. I'm a full time student with 495 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 7: a part time job, so I don't have a lot 496 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 7: of free time, but I'll find a way to get 497 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 7: it back to her. Yes, sorry, this isn't a up date. 498 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 7: I know a lot of you wanted. Thank you everybody 499 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 7: for all of your advice. 500 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 2: That's the you know that one I took my niece 501 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 2: away from her dad. Okay, intergrning child neglect. I have 502 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 2: a twelve year old niece, Haley. Haley lives with her dad, stepmom, 503 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 2: and four younger step siblings, two boys, two girls. Don't 504 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 2: know the exact ages, but they seem to be between 505 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 2: five and ten. Her mom passed when she was three. 506 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 2: By the way. This comes from Okay Barracuda fifty sixty 507 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 2: and if you want to submit your own stories, go 508 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 2: to the r slash Okay Storytime, Separate it and I'm Angie, 509 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 2: I'm Dakota, I'm Carly, and we're here to give good 510 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 2: advice Goofly, but we don't have all the answers. We're 511 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 2: just gonna guess what we would do in the situation, 512 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 2: and if you would do something differently, let us know 513 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 2: in the comments. As Opie says, Hayley's dad and stepmom 514 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 2: are not well off. They live in a three bedroom house, 515 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,479 Speaker 2: so Haley shares a room with her stepsisters. The kids 516 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 2: get one pair of shoes, reuse school supplies until they're 517 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 2: falling apart, and if their clothes still fit, they don't 518 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 2: get new school clothes. I'm doing a lot better, but 519 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 2: I refuse to help him with money because if I 520 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 2: give him money with the direct instructions to get Haley's 521 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 2: some decent shoes or an ice jacket, I expect the 522 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 2: money to be used on Haley, not split between all 523 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 2: five kids. He also dislikes me because he blames me 524 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 2: CPS investigating him and his wife for leaving the kids 525 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 2: home alone every day. Hayley stays with me after school 526 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 2: and sleeps over a few nights a week because I 527 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 2: don't I won't drop her off if there's not an 528 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 2: adult present, and I told her not to get on 529 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 2: the bus under any circumstances so they can't tell her. 530 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 2: I wanted her to take the bus home. That day, 531 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 2: Haley and two of her step siblings needed glasses. Nobody 532 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 2: was able to take Hayley for her eye examine to 533 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 2: get the glasses, so they asked me to take her 534 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 2: and gave me one hundred dollars with the instructions to 535 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 2: get the cheapest pair we can find. I was driving 536 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 2: Hailey to the eye doctor and she told me she 537 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 2: really wanted contacts, but her dad said no. I talked 538 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,479 Speaker 2: to the receptionist and they were able to get her 539 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 2: in for a contact fitting that day. After her contact appointment, 540 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 2: we checked out the glasses and she found two pairs 541 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 2: that she really liked, so I told her to get both. 542 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 2: I took her back after school a few days later 543 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 2: and picked up a few boxes of contacts. Her new 544 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 2: glasses came in a few days ago and she loves them, 545 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 2: but her dad is furious about the glasses. Then he 546 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 2: found out about the contacts. Haley was keeping them in 547 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 2: her backpack and never told him about it. So he 548 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 2: told her that she gets to keep one pair of 549 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 2: glasses and everything else has to stay at my house 550 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 2: because he's sick of me and Haley rubbing her stuff 551 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 2: in her step siblings faces. Halee responded by packing most 552 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 2: of her stuff and walking to my house. Now she's 553 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 2: refusing to go home. Oh wow. CPS came for another 554 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 2: investigation and was told by the kids that Haley doesn't 555 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 2: live there anymore, which is not helping my brother in 556 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 2: law's case. Now, my brother in law wants me to 557 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 2: make Haley come back and stop spoiling her so she 558 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 2: won't rub it in her siblings' faces anymore. Her rubbing 559 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 2: it in their faces means she put both pairs of 560 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 2: glasses on her dresser, but it wasn't fair because the 561 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 2: other kids could see it. Am I the ahole for 562 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 2: getting her contacts and two pairs of glass? And there 563 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 2: are some comments, but would you say. 564 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, that kid didn't deserve to see. 565 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 2: Right right, It's like, what are we talking about? Like 566 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 2: I know that they're probably just mad that it's just 567 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 2: more money. But it's like they didn't. Oh he didn't 568 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 2: charge you for all of that stuff. It's just just 569 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 2: out of Opie's. 570 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 4: If one kid gets contacts and glasses, then all the 571 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 4: kids are gonna want to have good eyesight. Right, this 572 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 4: is great. You think we can afford that? 573 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then watch the other kids do not even 574 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 2: need it. It's like, come on, give aad, but we 575 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 2: do have some comments. Umbrayon Skittles says, not the A whole, 576 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 2: Glasses and contacts are medical devices needed to see You 577 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 2: are a great aunt for making sure your niece is 578 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 2: taken care of. And Chocolate Chip Wizard says, you realize 579 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 2: that your brother in law and his wife are collecting 580 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 2: a Social Security survivor benefit check for you caring for 581 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 2: your niece, right if she's staying with you, he should 582 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 2: not be claiming that check. And Bernie Doodle Lover says 583 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 2: not the A whole. Can Haley live with you? Opie 584 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 2: says yes and no proof thirty two Once it's not 585 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 2: the A hole like, you should also file for a 586 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 2: full custody Opie says, they won't give it to me willingly, 587 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 2: and they're in the middle of a CPS investigation at 588 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 2: the moment, so it would take it would make officially 589 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 2: getting custody tricky. CPS is aware that she's currently staying 590 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 2: with me and that she was previously sleeping over three 591 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 2: to four days a week, was here every day after school, 592 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 2: and came over most weekends to avoid being home alone 593 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 2: with four young children. So general consensus n at the 594 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 2: eight hole. 595 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 3: And we do have an update I think from a 596 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 3: different subreddit. 597 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 2: What did that say, um, subread I don't know what 598 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 2: you're trying. 599 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 6: There's no other subreddits existing, only subreddits. 600 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 5: Are you going to other subreds? 601 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 2: It's actually wrong to call it subreddit because it just 602 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 2: is reddit. 603 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 4: I just had a moment of laps. 604 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 6: Someone someone fixed a coda of he's malfunctioninga has broken. 605 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 3: Shave my mustache off to get my brain right again. 606 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 2: It just lightly hit Dakota's foot on accident. Sure, no way, 607 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 2: there's no way. Everyone gas lights Dakoto right now. I'm 608 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 2: gonna keep coding. Yeah, this is update posted on ask docs. 609 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 2: What is wrong with my niece's stomach? My niece is 610 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 2: twelve years old. She's pretty tiny, four eight seventy five 611 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 2: pounds and has ADHD in type one diabetes. For the 612 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 2: past month and a half or so, she's constantly complaining 613 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 2: about her stomach hurting, her appetites decreased, she's more tired 614 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 2: than usual. She either has diarrhea or she's constipated, and 615 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 2: when she has to go to the bathroom, she really 616 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 2: has to go. We've been to the doctor three times. 617 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 2: They did an ultra suturn her stomach, which showed inflammation 618 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 2: around her large intestine. Then she did blood tests and 619 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 2: stool tests. She tested negative for every virus and infection. 620 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 2: And it's a whole bunch of letters and numbers that 621 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna read, but is a whole bunch 622 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 2: of viruses and infections. The doctor said it's probably IBS 623 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 2: and that she may be getting her period, which could 624 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 2: be triggering it or making it worse. But I just 625 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 2: have a feeling that something's wrong. She's staying home from 626 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 2: school again today because she just doesn't feel good, and 627 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 2: thailan All isn't helping. I don't know what to do 628 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 2: at this point. And it's we're officially adding vomiting as 629 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 2: a symptom, and we do have a second update. I'm 630 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 2: just gonna roll right into its Yes, ma'am perfect. We've 631 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 2: been in the hospital since Saturday. My niece got a 632 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 2: colonosca beyond Monday, and they say that she has moderate 633 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 2: to severe ulcrative colitis across her entire large intestine. I 634 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 2: don't have that, as she sounds bou, she's twelve? 635 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 4: Does she have all this? 636 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 2: She's twelve? Can you look up what that is? 637 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 4: So not fair? That's like an old person's disease. I'm 638 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 4: pretty sure it sounds like it. 639 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 2: Any sort of moderate to severe Colitisitis. 640 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 9: Is a chronic inflammatory bowel disease that causes inflammation, sores, 641 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 9: ulcers in the lining of the large intestine, colwyn, and rectum. 642 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 2: Yikes, dude. They gave her a blood transfusion. Now they're 643 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 2: starting her on a steroid, and when she starts to 644 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 2: respond to the steroids, they'll put her on something that 645 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 2: can be used longer term. And we do You have 646 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 2: a third update ten days later. Haley has been in 647 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 2: the hospital since Saturday for either al sortive colitis or Crohn's. 648 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 2: Her health insurance pretty much only lets her go to 649 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 2: the county hospital and medical sense, and even this is 650 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 2: going to get expensive. On top of Haley's stomach situation. 651 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 2: She also has Type one diabetes and ADHD. The ADHD 652 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 2: is currently not being treated. We live twenty minutes away 653 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 2: from one of the best children's hospitals in the country 654 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 2: for both the GI and diabetes. They also have a 655 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 2: great psych department and ADHD clinic. This would be covered 656 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 2: under my insurance. Thirty five minutes in the other direction 657 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 2: is another world renowned children's hospital that I would be 658 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 2: able to send her to. I sat Haley's dad down 659 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 2: the other day and showed him how much I was 660 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 2: paying each month for Haley between her health insurance premiums, 661 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 2: her insulin monitor and pump, her EpiPens, doctor's appointments, et cetera, 662 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 2: and told him that I refuse to continue to pay 663 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,719 Speaker 2: out the butt for her to receive medical care that 664 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 2: is subpara at best, when if I was her guardian, 665 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 2: she would get some of the best care possible for 666 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 2: less than what I'm paying now. Really wishing I knew 667 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 2: more about you know what doctors know about right now? 668 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 4: I mean, bottom line is used sound like a great aunt. 669 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, great aunt, you clearly care and yeah, you know 670 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 3: Hopefully that her dad will listen to reason and give 671 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 3: you guardianship so you can provide her better care. 672 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, after a long discussion and a lot of back 673 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 2: and forth, he agreed to give me guardianship of Haley. 674 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 2: Oh wow. We started the process yesterday. She will live 675 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 2: with me, but we'll see her dad every other weekend 676 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 2: in holiday. We talked to Haley about it today. She 677 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 2: is very excited to officially live with me. But you 678 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 2: have some comments. Mrla Rance says, your sister's husband seems 679 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 2: like our real pays of work. And you are not 680 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 2: the a hole for wanting better for your niece. You 681 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 2: are the hero. Delete it says. Okay, so you are 682 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 2: using your wealth to take guardianship. You didn't need to 683 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 2: do this in order to proffer the better treatment. You 684 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 2: made him choose between having legal guardianship and better care. 685 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 2: If there were changes you wanted to facilitate, you could have. 686 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 2: You could have and still has the power. Okay, you 687 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 2: know what, hope he responded to this one. 688 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, this this person is just trying to be like, well, 689 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 3: you didn't really have to become their legal guardian. 690 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 4: You didn't really have to take that away. 691 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, the father can't take care of these kids. 692 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 3: Bottom line is a better situation for the child, all right, 693 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 3: So I don't want to hear it downvoted and you're stinky. 694 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 2: I think this is either half baked, half baked rage 695 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 2: bait or being written by the other party. That's what 696 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 2: that downvoted commentary said. Opie responds, I did. If I 697 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 2: get guardianship, I'm able to put Haley on my insurance. 698 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 2: Putting Haley on my insurance gives her access to world 699 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 2: class medical care for less than what I'm currently paying. Stupid, 700 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 2: speaking of me paying for medical care, I already pay 701 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 2: for Haley's health insurance, premiums, her insulin, her gluecose, monitors 702 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 2: and insulin pumps, her glasses and contacts, doctor copays, labs, 703 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 2: and everything else that comes up. Additionally, I contribute towards 704 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 2: her father's mortgage. Oh my gosh. I occasionally help with utilities. 705 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 2: I've sent grocery gift cards to the house before. This 706 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 2: man is not able to provide for his daughter, and 707 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 2: I was sick of paying this much for her to 708 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 2: still not be adequately cared for. I saw him down, 709 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 2: showed him all that I was doing, and told him 710 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 2: to do it himself and take care of his kid 711 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 2: or give her to me and let me do it. 712 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 2: I'm not going to pay for subpar healthcare, inadequate nutrition, 713 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 2: cramped living spaces, et cetera any more. But that's the 714 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 2: end of that story. 715 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 4: It's just the way it is. 716 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 2: Dude. 717 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: Hey, it's Sam, your og host here. 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Our relationship is honest, 728 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 3: consensual and works beautifully for us. By the way, this 729 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 3: comes from user Alternative Pee thirty eight forty three. And 730 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 3: if you want to submit your own stories, go to 731 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 3: the r slashowcase story Time subret it. 732 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 4: I'm Dakota, I'm Angie, and we're here to give you 733 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 4: good advice. 734 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 3: Goofully, But we don't have all the answers We only 735 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 3: know what we would do, so if you would do 736 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 3: something different, let us know when the comments and My 737 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 3: younger sister, Sarah twenty nine, female, lives in Texas with 738 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 3: her husband David. They are devout Christians in a very 739 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 3: traditional patriarchal marriage. At her wedding in October twenty twenty four, 740 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 3: she actually used vows that said she would submit to 741 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 3: her husband. It was hard for me to sit there 742 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 3: and not audibly reject that. I fundamentally disagree with that framework, 743 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 3: but I still chose to show up, support her and 744 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 3: celebrate her big day because she's my sister. We were 745 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 3: both raised Evangelical Christian. The difference is that I started 746 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 3: deconstructing from that religion during university and have since built 747 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 3: a life, marriage, and personal value system that reflects who 748 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 3: I truly am. I'm familiar with her faith intimately, but 749 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 3: I reject simply following religious dogma without question. To me, 750 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 3: it's not virtuous to blindly accept harmful teachings from childhood. 751 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,399 Speaker 3: It's far more meaningful to examine, choose, and live by 752 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 3: values that align with compassion, honesty, and my lived experience. 753 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 3: Months ago, Sarah told me she couldn't come to my 754 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 3: wedding because she couldn't take time off work. But just 755 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 3: a few days before the wedding, at the absolute peak 756 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 3: of wedding chaos and emotional stress, she called me crying 757 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 3: and admitted the real reason is she can't support my 758 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 3: marriage because it's open and queer and she believes it 759 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 3: would be harmful for children. 760 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 2: Yukes, bigs, yikes there, yikes on bikes. Even could have 761 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 2: just kept all that to yourself and said I'm happy 762 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 2: for you, sister. Yeah, dude. 763 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 4: Choosing that moment to unload her judgment and refusal felt 764 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 4: incredibly immature and unfair. That was devastating. 765 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 3: I had made the choice to separate my values from 766 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,399 Speaker 3: my love and celebrate her wedding even though it went 767 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 3: against my beliefs. She didn't do the same for me. 768 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 3: After my wedding, she sent me a long message saying 769 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 3: she loves me unconditionally and has never judged my marriage, 770 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 3: only felt worry and not judgment. 771 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 2: That really is not exactly what happens. I love you unconditionally, 772 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 2: but I can't. I'm crying because I can't go to 773 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 2: your wedding because it's it's silly, it is illegal. 774 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 4: We're just playing with what words mean. Now, that's all 775 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 4: we're doing. 776 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, not attending my wedding is judgment by death NIS. 777 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 3: Judgment means forming an opinion and acting on it. She 778 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 3: decided my marriage was unacceptable and withheld support. That's the 779 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,280 Speaker 3: very definition of judgment. To me, it feels like conditional 780 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 3: love dressed up as unconditional love. I also see her 781 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 3: behavior as more Pharisee than Jesus. Jesus spent his time 782 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 3: with the people society rejected, offering compassion and not condemnation. 783 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 4: Do not judge, or you too will be judged. Matthew seven. 784 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 3: One love one another as I have loved you, so 785 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 3: you must love one another. John thirteen thirty four. If 786 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 3: she wants to live as a Christian withholding love and presence, 787 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 3: isn't christ Like? On top of that, her harm to 788 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 3: children argument is false. Research is clear. The APA and 789 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 3: decades of studies show kids of queer parents thrive just 790 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,240 Speaker 3: as well as any others. Studies of polyimerius and ethical 791 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 3: non monogamous families find children often benefit from honesty, multiple 792 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,479 Speaker 3: supportive adults, and open communication. The only consistent harm comes 793 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 3: from stigma and judgment from outsiders. Exactly what her disapproval adds, 794 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,240 Speaker 3: and ethical non monogamy itself is not harmful. In fact, 795 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 3: cheating is rampant in traditional marriages. Twenty to twenty five 796 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 3: percent admit to cheating. Some studies estimate up to sixty 797 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 3: percent over a lifetime. Cheating runs on lies and betrayal. 798 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 3: Ethical nominogamy runs on consent, honesty, and transparency. It is 799 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 3: literally the ethical alternative. So yes, I feel gas lip 800 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 3: when she says she's never judged. That's her trying to 801 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 3: rewrite reality. Her love feels conditional. She'll love me as 802 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 3: long as my choices fit her beliefs. 803 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 4: I don't accept that. Hopefully your sister can come to 804 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:34,879 Speaker 4: accept that. 805 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 2: Uh, this is what it is, you know, yeah, I think, yeah, whatever. 806 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 2: It feels like she's so wishy washy on her like 807 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 2: opinions in a way, like she knows what she thinks 808 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 2: and how she feels, but like her actions really aren't 809 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 2: matching up with it at all, and they keep changing 810 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 2: and her explanation keeps changing for those So I feel 811 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 2: like all you can really duop is just like react 812 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 2: how you naturally would a person like this and then 813 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 2: just be like, yeah, I don't know like it feels 814 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 2: very judgmental, even though you're saying it's not, it feels 815 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 2: very judgmental. So I'm gonna this is I don't want 816 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 2: to be around you as much. It's just natural consequences. 817 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 4: It's just the way it is. 818 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the way it's. 819 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 4: Got to be. 820 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 3: Now, yeap, Well, let's finish this. What I need going 821 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 3: forward is accountability. I want her to acknowledge that her 822 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 3: absence was judgmental and disrespectful, and I want an apology. 823 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 3: Without that, her unconditional love doesn't hold weight and for boundaries, 824 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 3: If she can't respect my marriage, then she loses access 825 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 3: to it. No commentary, no judgment, no gossip, not to 826 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 3: me and not to others. I do love her, and 827 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 3: I'd like to keep a bond, but only if she 828 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 3: can act with actual respect. So here's my question. Am 829 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 3: I right to call her actions judgment? 830 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 4: Yes? 831 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 3: And how do I hold these boundaries firmly, including asking 832 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 3: for an apology without getting pulled into her reframing? That 833 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 3: makes me doubt my own reality and that is the 834 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 3: end of that story. Honestly, I don't think her reframing 835 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 3: should make you doubt anything. 836 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 10: I think. 837 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 3: I think it's very clear that you think what you think, 838 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 3: and you feel how you feel. 839 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know. Don't let somebody else's thoughts to. 840 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 3: Worm their way into your brain when you've already separated 841 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,280 Speaker 3: yourself from that whole arena. 842 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 2: Yeah you know. And that's the end of this story. 843 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 2: We're going on to the next one. 844 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,280 Speaker 10: My friend's husband tried to ditch her after surgery, so. 845 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,800 Speaker 5: I had to step in and ditch him back. 846 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 2: I apologize if. 847 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,399 Speaker 10: The title is a little misleading, It's not as bad 848 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 10: as it makes it seem. That's still pretty terrible. My 849 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 10: friend has an unreliable partner who is now her husband Tough. 850 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 10: They've had problems regarding his insensitivity and unreliability. By the way, 851 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 10: this comes from Dazzling Brush nine zero zero five. And 852 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 10: if you want to spit your own stories, go to 853 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 10: the r slash Okay storytime separate it. I'm Sophia, I'm Curly, 854 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 10: and we're here. 855 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 2: To give good advice. 856 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 10: Goofy, But we don't have all the answers. We only 857 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 10: know what we'd do, So let us know what you 858 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 10: would do in the comments, and OP says basically, her 859 00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 10: husband doesn't want to do anything that inconveniences his comfort 860 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 10: and fun. So if it means thinking about other people, 861 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,879 Speaker 10: namely her, and having to do something instead of say, 862 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 10: playing with his band or watching TV, he doesn't want 863 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 10: to do it. 864 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 2: Well. 865 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 10: My friend is having surgery on Friday, a pretty serious 866 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 10: surgery that will incapacitate her for. 867 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 2: About eight weeks. 868 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 10: I told her I would be there on the day 869 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,240 Speaker 10: of and hang out until she was out of surgery. 870 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 10: It's going to be a long day, but I promised 871 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 10: her i'd be there. Her husband is going to be 872 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,879 Speaker 10: taking her in and all that. Her and I had 873 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 10: a discussion over the weekend about his ability to step 874 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 10: up to the plate and take care of her while 875 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 10: she is recovering. She will need help with walking and 876 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 10: managing her meds so she can stay ahead of the pain. 877 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 10: I told her I did not trust him at all 878 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 10: to be there for her, and that I would be 879 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 10: texting him often to make sure he's doing his job. 880 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 2: She was all, no, it's going to step up to 881 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 2: the plate. I trust him. 882 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 10: At first she hadn't and had planned to make meals 883 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,319 Speaker 10: for herself so he could heat them up for her 884 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,839 Speaker 10: and clean the house for him. Then yesterday she told 885 00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 10: me she wasn't going to do any of that, and 886 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 10: she's going to trust he will take care of her. 887 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 2: Ooh, this seems like a recipe for disaster. 888 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:08,800 Speaker 5: I'm worried. 889 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,240 Speaker 2: He just asked me if. 890 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 10: I would take care of her the day after surgery 891 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 10: so he could go hang out with friends. Oh my god, 892 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 10: the day after Oh my god, the first day of recovering, 893 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 10: and he's already ready to bounce. I thought about it, 894 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,360 Speaker 10: fuming and concluded that no, I would not do that 895 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,359 Speaker 10: for him. A he promised her he would take care 896 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,880 Speaker 10: of her. B I don't want to set a precedent 897 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 10: that he'll just call on me when he wants to 898 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,360 Speaker 10: ditch her, because I can see that happening very easily, 899 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 10: and see if he told her now what he was planning, 900 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 10: it would have caused a fight between them two days 901 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 10: before her surgery, and she's already anxious about that. 902 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:46,359 Speaker 2: I didn't want to add to it. 903 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 10: If this was week two and he needed a break, 904 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 10: I totally get it and would be over there. 905 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 2: But this is day one. 906 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 6: Now. 907 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 10: The question is do I tell her about this, not now, obviously, 908 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 10: but when she's well enough to receive it. Yes, yes, 909 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 10: Oh my goodness, receipts, show the receipts. Yeah, hopefully this 910 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 10: is a text conversation. 911 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 6: Even if it's not, I feel like she knows that 912 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 6: he's unreliable. 913 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:10,879 Speaker 2: Yah. 914 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,839 Speaker 10: Yeah, absolutely, And there is an update, but not ripe 915 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 10: for surgery. 916 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,879 Speaker 5: But no, after she's healing for a while. I feel 917 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 5: like you can still do it in that eight weeks though. 918 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,479 Speaker 10: Yeah, I agree, because she'll she'll feel it, she'll see it. 919 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:25,800 Speaker 2: Not showing up exactly. 920 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 10: Update turns out I didn't have to tell her. 921 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:33,439 Speaker 2: He told on himself. Oh my god, I don't even 922 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,759 Speaker 2: know why I would you know, I don't know. I 923 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,440 Speaker 2: didn't see that coming genuinely. 924 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 9: Same. 925 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 2: Why would he care? 926 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,880 Speaker 10: Why would he be about her? I just got a 927 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 10: message from her about it. Let's see how this goes. 928 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 10: Keep y'all updated, and there is an update right here. Well, 929 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 10: he told her that he asked me to, as he 930 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 10: put it, baby sit her. You just told your wife 931 00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:01,240 Speaker 10: that you ask someone else to babysit. She is upset, 932 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,399 Speaker 10: but mostly I think she's just tired and disappointed in him. 933 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 10: I asked her if he told her to test the 934 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 10: waters and see if he could just leave while she 935 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,319 Speaker 10: was sleeping. She said yes, because he said, you'll just 936 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,360 Speaker 10: be sleeping, right, She said nothing, And finally he worked 937 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 10: it out himself that since it was her first day home, 938 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 10: he should stay with her. I told her, when she's better, 939 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 10: she asks decisions to make. She said, in his mind, 940 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 10: he thinks if he can get someone to babysit her 941 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,879 Speaker 10: and do the fun thing, then in his mind it's 942 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 10: a win win. I told her he's a selfish prick. 943 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,400 Speaker 10: And there are some relevant comments. Oh, man, I assume 944 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,240 Speaker 10: those Well, the comments are just going to be answering. 945 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,240 Speaker 2: The should I tell her. 946 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 10: Which he doesn't even know, doesn't even matter anymore because 947 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 10: she's already told. 948 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 6: We should have guessed that he was going to tell 949 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,879 Speaker 6: on himself. Oh, the fact that he just fully was like, yeah, 950 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 6: I really think like your friend should babysit you. 951 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, baby, baby, you just called your wife a baby. 952 00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,800 Speaker 5: She's having major shirt. 953 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, she'd have a major So that's insane. Yeah, divorce, 954 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 2: that's it. 955 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,839 Speaker 10: And he's consistently shown a pattern of not showing up 956 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 10: and then when she needs him most, he still can't 957 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 10: do it. 958 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,399 Speaker 6: Yeah, because it's not like it was like, oh, I'm 959 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,319 Speaker 6: having surgery and now he's not showing up. 960 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 5: It's like, yeah, bro, he hasn't been. 961 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 10: Never never relevant comments common one says, yes, tell her neutrally, 962 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:23,320 Speaker 10: as if it's not an issue. 963 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 2: This is how i'd play it. 964 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 10: Hey, your husband let me know he was looking for 965 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,240 Speaker 10: help on day two and I'm sorry, I'm not free, 966 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 10: but if you are really desperate, you can call me 967 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,760 Speaker 10: after X time. You can do her a favor after 968 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 10: he's failed. He gets no favors. Consider being free that 969 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,280 Speaker 10: day when she calls, because you know he's almost certainly. 970 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 2: Going to bail on her anyway. 971 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,359 Speaker 10: Maybe over meal prep a bit so you can leave 972 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 10: a few things in her freezer, but only after he's 973 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,879 Speaker 10: failed to feed her. Let him fail first, then help her. 974 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:57,880 Speaker 10: Never ever cover for him in advance, be luckily able 975 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 10: to help when he doesn't perform, She has to feel 976 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,240 Speaker 10: his failure first. Unfortunately, nothing but that anxiety and suffering. 977 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,840 Speaker 10: He is going to teach her op, he says, good idea. 978 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:08,919 Speaker 2: Letting him fail first, and he will. 979 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,279 Speaker 10: I am seriously wondering if you will find a way 980 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 10: to leave her. On Saturday and his friend knows his 981 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 10: wife is having surgery, why would you ask if he 982 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 10: could come out. 983 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 2: Knowing that what the heck comment too. Yeah, that's a 984 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 2: great point. Yeah, that's very true too. But also I 985 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 2: can't imagine this guy has very good friends. 986 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,479 Speaker 6: I also can't imagine that it's considering he doesn't really 987 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 6: care about his wife that's out here being like. 988 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 5: And the wife's got surgery. 989 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 10: She's got the wife's got really like serious surgery. 990 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,239 Speaker 2: I should be home, but I'm not. 991 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 5: I would guess they don't. 992 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,719 Speaker 10: Know, yeah, or or he's just saying like, oh, yeah, 993 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 10: she's sick, Yeah she's she said, I'm sleeping mine or 994 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,839 Speaker 10: procedure Comment two says absolutely let her know that her 995 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 10: husband didn't want to do even this little bit for 996 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 10: she probably already knows, though Opie says she does know. 997 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 2: I think she's hoping for the best. 998 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 10: And yeah, she does make excuses for him and will 999 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,319 Speaker 10: even say she is making excuses for him while doing it. 1000 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:03,840 Speaker 2: I think in her mind. 1001 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 10: She is thinking that surely he wouldn't ditch her so soon, 1002 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 10: or wouldn't do it while she's recovering from something that 1003 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 10: requires a lot of help. I told her when she 1004 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 10: was making plans to make meals for herself that she 1005 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,319 Speaker 10: really had to think long and hard about how much 1006 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,879 Speaker 10: pretwork she's doing for herself because she knows how unreliable 1007 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,799 Speaker 10: and selfish she is. I'm not entirely sure what made 1008 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 10: her change her mind about that. Think she was offended 1009 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 10: when I told her I had absolutely no faith in 1010 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,319 Speaker 10: him at all to step up. And now here we are. 1011 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 10: Why did Opie's friend marry that guy? Opie says, I 1012 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,680 Speaker 10: questioned her when she did, based on the problems they 1013 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 10: were already having for this kind of behavior. I think 1014 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,239 Speaker 10: she fell into the trap of marrying his potential and 1015 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 10: not who he really is. Comment three says I wouldn't 1016 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 10: tell her she doesn't need to worry before surgery. 1017 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 2: Tell her husband, no. 1018 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:50,920 Speaker 10: You can't help on day one, and I'll have to 1019 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,759 Speaker 10: manage himself and see what happens from there. Either he 1020 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,399 Speaker 10: manages and things go well, or he doesn't and your 1021 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,200 Speaker 10: friend finds out how important she is to her husband 1022 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 10: in the scheme of things. Honestly, this feels like a 1023 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,360 Speaker 10: moment where the future of their relationship could go two ways. 1024 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 10: So I would try to stay out of it as 1025 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,439 Speaker 10: much as possible. And Opie says she has talked about 1026 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,480 Speaker 10: leaving him over the past several months since his selfishness 1027 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 10: is epic, and he never takes responsibility for his actions. 1028 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,239 Speaker 10: When he's called out on it, he'll pull the I 1029 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,879 Speaker 10: don't like your tone card when she tries to talk 1030 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 10: to him, and makes it about that if I had 1031 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,920 Speaker 10: a nickel for every time she's called me after an 1032 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 10: argument and asks am I crazy? Because he gasped her 1033 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,319 Speaker 10: in some way. I definitely don't want to tell her now, 1034 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 10: not before surgery, though I do wonder if he will 1035 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,879 Speaker 10: find another way to go, maybe ask another friend of hers. 1036 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,000 Speaker 10: He told me in the text he hadn't talked to 1037 00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:41,719 Speaker 10: her about it, that he was waiting to see what 1038 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 10: I'd say first, and does Opie's friend and her husband 1039 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,360 Speaker 10: of kids. Opie says, the sad thing is he does 1040 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,799 Speaker 10: have a child with his previous wife. Annie has a 1041 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,160 Speaker 10: terrible relationship with his kid because he never took an 1042 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 10: active interest in him. 1043 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 2: It is always wild. 1044 00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 10: To me when people get into relationships with people who 1045 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,920 Speaker 10: have kids that they don't care about. 1046 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:05,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, shocking to me. 1047 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 6: And then to be shocked that he's like inconsidered about you. 1048 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,360 Speaker 6: He's not even taking care of his kid, yea, his 1049 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:12,800 Speaker 6: own kid, And. 1050 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,359 Speaker 10: You know, maybe there's people out there who are like, well, 1051 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,960 Speaker 10: I don't want kids, so you know, I don't really 1052 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:19,360 Speaker 10: need him to be a good father. 1053 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 5: But it's like that shows up himself. 1054 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,120 Speaker 2: That shows up everywhere. 1055 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,240 Speaker 10: We've read a couple stories where partner, like the Opie's 1056 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,400 Speaker 10: will tell us, oh, yeah, my partner, you know, he 1057 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 10: doesn't have a great relationship with his child. I'm like, 1058 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 10: whoa blazing red flag. His kid is an adult now 1059 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,240 Speaker 10: and wants nothing to do with him. Maybe we should 1060 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,720 Speaker 10: look into that. Opie's friend, Well, no, she doesn't want kids, 1061 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,239 Speaker 10: and he already has one from a previous marriage, which 1062 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,120 Speaker 10: is probably in her mind where she's like, oh, it 1063 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,480 Speaker 10: doesn't matter because I don't want kids anyway, he's never 1064 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 10: gonna have to raise a kid with me. Is it 1065 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,760 Speaker 10: possible for the husband to get therapy? Opie says, Also 1066 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 10: he refuses to get therapy, And there is a third update. 1067 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 10: Oh my god, I hope it's my friend had her surgery, 1068 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,280 Speaker 10: it went well, and she's getting a divorce. 1069 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,880 Speaker 6: I hope it's my friend had a surgery, it went well, 1070 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 6: her husband took care of her, but she's still getting 1071 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:10,719 Speaker 6: a divorce. 1072 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,960 Speaker 10: Still divorcing him because of all the times that he 1073 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:13,560 Speaker 10: didn't show. 1074 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 5: Up like I hope. Maybe he was actually there. The 1075 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,240 Speaker 5: bare minimum up date. 1076 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 2: Three five days later. 1077 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:24,719 Speaker 10: Hello, the surgery went well yay, so I will start there. 1078 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:26,960 Speaker 10: It was a long day and she didn't get home 1079 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:28,280 Speaker 10: until after midnight. 1080 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:28,759 Speaker 2: Oh wow. 1081 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,399 Speaker 10: She told me her husband was doing a great job 1082 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 10: when I checked in on her on Saturday, and when 1083 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,480 Speaker 10: I checked in on Sunday he was still holding strong. 1084 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,840 Speaker 10: And then came Sunday evening, she sent me a message 1085 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 10: that his care was slipping, but not to message him 1086 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,239 Speaker 10: about it. However, he's working from home right now, which 1087 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,239 Speaker 10: was up in the air last week. Hopefully he'll do 1088 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,160 Speaker 10: that the rest of the week. I told her on 1089 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,080 Speaker 10: Friday that if she asks me for something to come over, 1090 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,319 Speaker 10: do something for her, et cetera, I'll do it, but 1091 00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 10: not if he asks, I will not bail him out. 1092 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 10: She agreed with me on that he has a class 1093 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 10: on Wednesday evening that he teaches, so she asked me 1094 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,120 Speaker 10: if I could come over while he's gone, I'll get 1095 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,719 Speaker 10: even more intel than I am sure. She did say 1096 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,520 Speaker 10: he was pretty shaken on Saturday when he saw how 1097 00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,200 Speaker 10: weak she was and how difficult it is for her 1098 00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:16,239 Speaker 10: to move around. 1099 00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,280 Speaker 2: Hopefully I'll stay the course, but who knows. 1100 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 10: Thank you for all who commented on my last post. 1101 00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,120 Speaker 10: I told her about it, and she got a punt 1102 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:24,600 Speaker 10: out of it. 1103 00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 6: I really wanted him to slip up. 1104 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, so far we've gotten your two out of three. 1105 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:31,120 Speaker 5: This is true. 1106 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 10: Yeah, it's still on its way. It's it could still 1107 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,560 Speaker 10: be on its way to your three. 1108 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:37,880 Speaker 5: At writing, Like, I don't want to say that. 1109 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,279 Speaker 6: I hope, Like I know, I was like, I hope 1110 00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 6: he slips up, but like, I don't hope for that 1111 00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:42,279 Speaker 6: because that affects her. 1112 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, but I do hope that she realizes. 1113 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:45,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all I want. 1114 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:47,600 Speaker 10: I want her to get help that she needs and 1115 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,400 Speaker 10: also realize that this guy sucked. I'll say that he 1116 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 10: did try to float the idea to her on Wednesday 1117 00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,319 Speaker 10: night of going out because she'd been sleeping anyway. She 1118 00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,000 Speaker 10: told him that I refused to babysit her because I 1119 00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,320 Speaker 10: felt it was in a opriate for him to bail 1120 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:05,120 Speaker 10: on her after surgery, deshrugged drugged. She told them she 1121 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 10: agreed with me, and that he has a history of 1122 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,399 Speaker 10: not being better when she needs him and bailing when 1123 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,080 Speaker 10: things get hard. So this was an opportunity for him 1124 00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,880 Speaker 10: to step up to the plate. We shall see what happens. 1125 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,440 Speaker 10: And Common one she sent me a message that his 1126 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,440 Speaker 10: care was slipping, but not to message him about it. 1127 00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:20,160 Speaker 2: Ya da dada. 1128 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,880 Speaker 10: I hope friend doesn't cave under the notion will he 1129 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 10: did more than I expected? Op says same. Their entire 1130 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 10: relationship has been incredibly imbalanced. He can't even be bothered 1131 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:36,600 Speaker 10: to remember her birthday right, oh my gosh, and as 1132 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,640 Speaker 10: of this year, be there for it. Common two says 1133 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 10: she needs to get out of that relationship while she 1134 00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:45,200 Speaker 10: still can. It's not gonna get any better. Opie says, 1135 00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,120 Speaker 10: I don't think it's going to happen anytime soon or ever. 1136 00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,279 Speaker 10: I've known her for over ten years and she has 1137 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,320 Speaker 10: talked about leaving him for lesser infractions, and it still 1138 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,239 Speaker 10: hasn't happened. I don't believe she will until she does, 1139 00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,360 Speaker 10: you know what I mean. Comment three says, what he's 1140 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:03,440 Speaker 10: constantly negotiating the least amount of effort that she will accept. 1141 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:08,000 Speaker 10: It speaks volumes to his lack of quality. Common force us, 1142 00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,240 Speaker 10: it's so unfair. His refusal to care for her body 1143 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,319 Speaker 10: when in such a vulnerable state is a refusal to 1144 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,080 Speaker 10: care for her heart as well. Nobody's heart should be 1145 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 10: breaking when their body is in a fight to recover. 1146 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,600 Speaker 10: Would he accept this from her if the tides were reversed. 1147 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,920 Speaker 10: I think that And that is the end of the story. 1148 00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,480 Speaker 1: Hey, it's janio Ogost here. We're gonna get back to 1149 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,080 Speaker 1: the stories. But he's a quick three minute break of 1150 00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:29,080 Speaker 1: ass from our sponsors. 1151 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,000 Speaker 6: My best friend hid an open relationship from me and 1152 00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:34,440 Speaker 6: it ruined everything. 1153 00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:36,080 Speaker 2: Why'd you go and do that? 1154 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:40,120 Speaker 6: And this comes directly from the Okay storytime subreddit. I 1155 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,239 Speaker 6: twenty seven female had been friends with Sarah twenty seven 1156 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:47,319 Speaker 6: female literally since kindergarten. We grew up in the same neighborhood. 1157 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,799 Speaker 6: Our families were close and my family loves her. Her 1158 00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,160 Speaker 6: parents have always loved me, and to this day still 1159 00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,399 Speaker 6: care for and ask about me to my parents. By 1160 00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,160 Speaker 6: the way this comes from, my name is not And 1161 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,279 Speaker 6: if you want to submit your own stories, go to 1162 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 6: the r slash Okay storytime subreddit, which is where this 1163 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:09,000 Speaker 6: is from. And I'm Carly, I'm Sophia, and we're here 1164 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,680 Speaker 6: to give good advice goofully, But we don't have all 1165 00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:13,880 Speaker 6: the answers. We only know what we would do, so 1166 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:15,680 Speaker 6: let us know what you would do. In the comments 1167 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:21,200 Speaker 6: and OPI says, Sarah is diagnosed with a chronic psychiatric disorder, 1168 00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,759 Speaker 6: and I was one of the only people close to 1169 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,440 Speaker 6: her who knew about this From a young age. I 1170 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,759 Speaker 6: was the person who went with her to all of 1171 00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,920 Speaker 6: her doctor's appointments for support. I talked to her every 1172 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,280 Speaker 6: day on the phone to help her sleep. I helped 1173 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,759 Speaker 6: organize and set up alarms for her to wake up 1174 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 6: in time. This was all in my preteens. 1175 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:41,920 Speaker 5: And high school years. 1176 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,440 Speaker 6: Because of her diagnosis, she often got away with small 1177 00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,080 Speaker 6: remarks about me. She would always pick on me for 1178 00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,480 Speaker 6: being too skinny because she was overweight, just so she 1179 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 6: could complain about me not going to the gym with her. 1180 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,319 Speaker 6: Same thing when it came to who I hung out with, 1181 00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,200 Speaker 6: or if I invited her to family gatherings or not, 1182 00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,160 Speaker 6: I would always just brush off her comments and tantrums. 1183 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:06,160 Speaker 6: I had piano class twice a week, horseback writing lessons 1184 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,880 Speaker 6: twice a week. I was an a student and also 1185 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,800 Speaker 6: worked or visited family during holidays and other cities, and 1186 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:13,399 Speaker 6: went to. 1187 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,000 Speaker 5: Church three times a week. 1188 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,960 Speaker 2: Three times. That's not even like the recommended. 1189 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,760 Speaker 6: Amount She was also a very productive student and worked 1190 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,600 Speaker 6: really hard. She is an only child to elderly immigrant parents, 1191 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,720 Speaker 6: which has forced her to care for them in different 1192 00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,319 Speaker 6: ways than I would have, so I tried to help 1193 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,440 Speaker 6: as much as I could in my friendship with her, 1194 00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:34,840 Speaker 6: since we went to school together and also lived in 1195 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,400 Speaker 6: the same area. Of course, she was the one I 1196 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:41,480 Speaker 6: would talk to about boys. It was the typical BFF 1197 00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,560 Speaker 6: talks about all our phantasies for the future, what we 1198 00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,040 Speaker 6: liked in boys, and how we wanted life to look. 1199 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,400 Speaker 6: She always knew who I had crushes on. The summer 1200 00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,279 Speaker 6: before we started high school, she and I were in 1201 00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,480 Speaker 6: a mall and she told me her cousin would be 1202 00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,400 Speaker 6: passing by. That was the first time I met my 1203 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,720 Speaker 6: ex Adrian already mail. 1204 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,200 Speaker 2: Whoa he was thirty at the time. 1205 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:08,919 Speaker 10: Wait yeah, yeah, yeah, this is like her future soon 1206 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,960 Speaker 10: to be boyfriend now currently now yeah. 1207 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:13,320 Speaker 5: So they were three years apart. 1208 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:17,440 Speaker 6: Clarify at the time, he had just graduated high school, 1209 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,640 Speaker 6: but was intrigued by me as well as I was 1210 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:21,200 Speaker 6: in him. 1211 00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:22,360 Speaker 2: How old were you? 1212 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:23,920 Speaker 5: Three years younger than him? 1213 00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:25,960 Speaker 2: So okay, so he's probably like eighteen. 1214 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:29,080 Speaker 5: Or nineteen Yeah, okay, so okay. 1215 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:30,360 Speaker 2: She's like fifteen. 1216 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I don't really like that age gap 1217 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,560 Speaker 6: when one of you is out of high school, when 1218 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,040 Speaker 6: one of you is already I agree, you met in 1219 00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,960 Speaker 6: high school dating and then someone graduated. 1220 00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,560 Speaker 10: Sure, I think that's okay. But the meeting when they're 1221 00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,520 Speaker 10: outside of high school, I'm like, you. 1222 00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,719 Speaker 6: Just get different places in your life. Sarah put me 1223 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,480 Speaker 6: in contact with Adrian because she saw that I was 1224 00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,640 Speaker 6: intrigued by him and she knew he would like someone 1225 00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,640 Speaker 6: like me. That summer, we talked on the phone every day, 1226 00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,400 Speaker 6: and that is also how I started texting and talking 1227 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,200 Speaker 6: to Adrian. For a short period during the summer, he 1228 00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,520 Speaker 6: would stop answering and was very distant at times. We 1229 00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,320 Speaker 6: spoke just before me and Sarah were starting high school 1230 00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,840 Speaker 6: and agreed that it would be better to stay friends 1231 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,200 Speaker 6: since he was leaving to study in the States and 1232 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:17,240 Speaker 6: I live in Europe. 1233 00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,760 Speaker 5: Wow, that would be very long distance. 1234 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,080 Speaker 6: Six months went and me and Adrian were in contact 1235 00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:26,000 Speaker 6: back and forth as friends through message, while Sarah was 1236 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,719 Speaker 6: also kind of in contact with him and kind of 1237 00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,319 Speaker 6: kept my interest in him alive. She would talk about 1238 00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,160 Speaker 6: how good he is, how much he likes me. Then 1239 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,399 Speaker 6: I should tell him how I feel When I came 1240 00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,680 Speaker 6: to her after six months to tell her about a 1241 00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,279 Speaker 6: boy in my class that I was interested in. She 1242 00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:45,359 Speaker 6: pressured me into talking to Adrian about it. I told him, 1243 00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,480 Speaker 6: and the exact reaction he gave was what my friend 1244 00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:49,839 Speaker 6: told me about him. 1245 00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,240 Speaker 5: We decided to be exclusive. 1246 00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,400 Speaker 6: And he had openly told me he loves me and 1247 00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:59,160 Speaker 6: that I am now his Oh that's concerning language. We 1248 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,000 Speaker 6: started dating law long distance, and most of our communication 1249 00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,960 Speaker 6: was through text. Adrian was weirdly very private, and I 1250 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,080 Speaker 6: always felt for the excuse that he had a lot 1251 00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,640 Speaker 6: of school, was busy surviving, and then it is normal 1252 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,400 Speaker 6: for a boyfriend to not respond for a month or 1253 00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:15,000 Speaker 6: so A. 1254 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:20,760 Speaker 2: Month month, what a couple times? Oh my god. 1255 00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,640 Speaker 10: I saw my boy friend yesterday and it had been 1256 00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,760 Speaker 10: like a day. He was like, oh, we haven't sitting 1257 00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:26,120 Speaker 10: each other. 1258 00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:26,920 Speaker 2: That's age. 1259 00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,960 Speaker 6: After a month, I'm considering us broken up. 1260 00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:37,720 Speaker 10: I way sooner than after a week of no contact. 1261 00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,400 Speaker 6: I'm going a couple of days ago contact, I'm like, 1262 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:41,320 Speaker 6: I'm losing hope. 1263 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, I'm like, what, I'm calling the. 1264 00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:47,040 Speaker 5: Cops for three days, Like, Hey, I'm not sure if 1265 00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:48,080 Speaker 5: this man's a lie? 1266 00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:52,160 Speaker 2: He's gone. Yeah, that's crazy. 1267 00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:56,080 Speaker 6: He was always in contact with Sarah though she knew everything. 1268 00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,800 Speaker 6: Weird things started happening in our relationship whenever something was 1269 00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,440 Speaker 6: going on in my life, where Sarah was mad at 1270 00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:05,240 Speaker 6: me for continuing to live my life according to my 1271 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:06,400 Speaker 6: other priorities. 1272 00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:10,440 Speaker 10: Okay, why is like her cousin so involved in his 1273 00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:15,480 Speaker 10: his younger cousins like friendships. It feels like he's like 1274 00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:16,200 Speaker 10: her lackey. 1275 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, Adrian cheated on me six months into our relationship, 1276 00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:25,240 Speaker 6: and Sarah convinced me to stay with him. Three months later, 1277 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,400 Speaker 6: Sarah and his roommate tells me he has the same 1278 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:32,000 Speaker 6: condition that Sarah has. I didn't even dare asking him 1279 00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:33,960 Speaker 6: to text me or skype me when I wanted to, 1280 00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:35,640 Speaker 6: because he needed his space. 1281 00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,320 Speaker 5: I was merely a girlfriend. 1282 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:39,640 Speaker 6: That would talk to him on his good days and 1283 00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:41,480 Speaker 6: leave him alone during. 1284 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:42,280 Speaker 5: His bad days. 1285 00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:47,120 Speaker 6: Three years into this chaotic relationship. 1286 00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:50,320 Speaker 2: Three years, I'm sorry one at least three years one 1287 00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:54,800 Speaker 2: count one. It's long distance, so they're doing three years long. 1288 00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:58,960 Speaker 10: Distance where he's going M I A for months at 1289 00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,240 Speaker 10: a time and cheats on her. 1290 00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:02,840 Speaker 2: This is crazy. 1291 00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:06,600 Speaker 6: I was admitted to the hospital and undergoing treatment for 1292 00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:10,440 Speaker 6: three weeks. I had a few fights during my stay 1293 00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,840 Speaker 6: there with Sarah, regarding the fact that the hospital wouldn't 1294 00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,200 Speaker 6: allow her there at the same time as my family. 1295 00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,120 Speaker 5: I started asking her why Adrian wouldn't. 1296 00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,040 Speaker 6: Call her text me when I'm sick, and I started 1297 00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,880 Speaker 6: questioning the fact that he couldn't at least give one 1298 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,360 Speaker 6: minute to say hi to me because of the school 1299 00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,200 Speaker 6: work and his periods. One day later, I get a 1300 00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:33,040 Speaker 6: message from him where he initiates the conversation by being 1301 00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:36,200 Speaker 6: mad at me for not telling him myself that I 1302 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:40,040 Speaker 6: was sick. I started distancing myself from him completely. During 1303 00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:44,320 Speaker 6: this time, I also gained a very close friend, thank God. Yeah, 1304 00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,720 Speaker 6: she was there for me as a stranger, and we 1305 00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:50,200 Speaker 6: started hanging out more and more. Sarah did not like this. 1306 00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,600 Speaker 6: She had a bad period and required my attention all 1307 00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:57,800 Speaker 6: the time. Eventually she started speaking less and less about Adrian. 1308 00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:00,680 Speaker 6: Mind you, we were still together at this time, and 1309 01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:02,240 Speaker 6: I hadn't heard much from him. 1310 01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:04,760 Speaker 10: What do you mean you were still together and you 1311 01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:06,400 Speaker 10: hadn't heard much from him? 1312 01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:09,560 Speaker 2: You were still dating. It's been a couple of months 1313 01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:10,960 Speaker 2: since we really talked. 1314 01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:17,520 Speaker 6: Thought I go on a holiday with my family. I 1315 01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,600 Speaker 6: got a phone call from Sarah during one of the evenings. 1316 01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:23,240 Speaker 6: I hear that she is shaking in her voice. 1317 01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:24,520 Speaker 5: She tells me this. 1318 01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:28,080 Speaker 6: Oh no, no, no, no. 1319 01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:30,480 Speaker 2: I don't even want to say no. 1320 01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:35,160 Speaker 6: Adrian and I are in fact not cousins in a 1321 01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:39,480 Speaker 6: biological way. They met through family friends, and they were 1322 01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,280 Speaker 6: actually a couple before. 1323 01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:43,160 Speaker 5: Me and him were a thing. 1324 01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:45,960 Speaker 2: Adrian needs to go on a list. See. 1325 01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:49,320 Speaker 6: I really thought like this was in fact the direction 1326 01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,360 Speaker 6: I thought this was growing. I just thought they were 1327 01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,440 Speaker 6: fully gonna be biological cousins. 1328 01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:57,880 Speaker 2: No, it's happened before. Oh my god. 1329 01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,800 Speaker 6: During the summer when we connected and they were out 1330 01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,880 Speaker 6: of the country together, she was actually still with him, 1331 01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:07,479 Speaker 6: but they were in an open relationship, which basically meant 1332 01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,320 Speaker 6: she wanted to date, and he used me as an 1333 01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,840 Speaker 6: excuse for her to end the open relationship. He told 1334 01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:17,320 Speaker 6: her that he would pursue me during their open relationship, 1335 01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:21,800 Speaker 6: and she decided to end that constellation because she cared 1336 01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,640 Speaker 6: for me. That's also when he started distancing himself. 1337 01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:29,840 Speaker 2: Ah, Obie, I'm so sorry. Oh my goodness, you have 1338 01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,240 Speaker 2: as a really insane friend. 1339 01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:34,640 Speaker 6: Then she tells me that she cheated on him and 1340 01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,680 Speaker 6: they decided to end their relationship and he was actually 1341 01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:41,040 Speaker 6: falling for me. They ended it amicably. She tells me 1342 01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:43,160 Speaker 6: that a lot of the situations that had happened with 1343 01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:46,240 Speaker 6: him was them trying to get me to leave, since 1344 01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,680 Speaker 6: he is so messed up and she wanted what was 1345 01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,479 Speaker 6: best for me. When he didn't text, he was going 1346 01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,800 Speaker 6: through depression and she was the only one who understood him. 1347 01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,560 Speaker 6: At the same time, she was the one who encouraged 1348 01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,480 Speaker 6: me to stay with him because he loved me so much. 1349 01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,880 Speaker 6: I have never in my life been this quiet, and 1350 01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:07,720 Speaker 6: the shock and confusion took over my anger. I sat 1351 01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,560 Speaker 6: there on my bed and was told that three years 1352 01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:15,120 Speaker 6: of my life have been fabricated, manipulated, and altered by 1353 01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,560 Speaker 6: not only my partner, but also my best friend. I 1354 01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:22,000 Speaker 6: sat there for an hour, just trying to express my feelings, 1355 01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:23,120 Speaker 6: but I couldn't know. 1356 01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:25,280 Speaker 5: Instead, I forgave her. 1357 01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,720 Speaker 6: I ended it with Adrian the same day. For a 1358 01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,520 Speaker 6: month or two, I pretended like nothing had happened. I 1359 01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:38,040 Speaker 6: felt fooled, controlled, stupid, naive, and all of the above, 1360 01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,720 Speaker 6: but I couldn't do more than to move on and 1361 01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,320 Speaker 6: try to save an inch of normality. 1362 01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:43,960 Speaker 5: Left in this situation. 1363 01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:48,040 Speaker 6: I would question situations over and over again, not knowing 1364 01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:51,200 Speaker 6: if that was even Adrian speaking or if it was 1365 01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,200 Speaker 6: Sarah who wrote me through him. 1366 01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:54,920 Speaker 5: After high school graduation. 1367 01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:58,600 Speaker 6: It was my first summer fully away from Sarah and Adrian. 1368 01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:02,200 Speaker 6: I was of dream age. They both don't like drinking 1369 01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,640 Speaker 6: and would judge me on it. I was living my 1370 01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:08,360 Speaker 6: best life when she was away. That summer changed my life. 1371 01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:12,160 Speaker 6: Before Sarah returned, I had met my now husband, Patrick 1372 01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:14,960 Speaker 6: twenty nine mail at the time, he was twenty one. 1373 01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,880 Speaker 6: I told Sarah as my friend that I had met someone, 1374 01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,600 Speaker 6: and she was excited for me. She was returning home 1375 01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:23,040 Speaker 6: a couple of weeks later, and we had been on 1376 01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:27,080 Speaker 6: good terms during that period through distance calls. When she returned, 1377 01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:29,880 Speaker 6: she tells me when we meet that she has actually 1378 01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:35,520 Speaker 6: been in contact with Patrick through Instagram news. She told 1379 01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:37,840 Speaker 6: me to call him and ask about this and to 1380 01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,760 Speaker 6: put him on speaker. I did, and when I asked him, 1381 01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,320 Speaker 6: he responded with a what the f are you talking about? 1382 01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:43,800 Speaker 5: Sentence? 1383 01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,240 Speaker 6: And she hung up the phone on him and then 1384 01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,959 Speaker 6: proceeds to tell me that her gut instinct was off 1385 01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:49,640 Speaker 6: with him. 1386 01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:51,920 Speaker 5: I started ignoring her completely. 1387 01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,160 Speaker 6: I pursued my relationship with Patrick and he became my 1388 01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:59,120 Speaker 6: best friend and helped me through really rough times. One day, 1389 01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:01,600 Speaker 6: Sarah calls and tells me she wants to meet up 1390 01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:03,440 Speaker 6: now because she's feeling bad. 1391 01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:07,000 Speaker 2: I don't care, pep, that's me hanging out the fun. 1392 01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,360 Speaker 6: I told her I couldn't because I was with Patrick 1393 01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:13,400 Speaker 6: and his family nice. She totally flipped on me, called 1394 01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:16,040 Speaker 6: me a bad friend, told me I just respected her 1395 01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:19,040 Speaker 6: instinct and that all of her other friends listened to 1396 01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:22,360 Speaker 6: her advice. She then tells me Adriane is sick. He's 1397 01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:26,720 Speaker 6: having a psychotic meltdown period and also got a tattoo 1398 01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,320 Speaker 6: of me on his arm. I told her to stop 1399 01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,600 Speaker 6: talking about my ex with me out of respect of 1400 01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:32,520 Speaker 6: my relationship. 1401 01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:33,680 Speaker 2: That was it. 1402 01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:37,800 Speaker 6: She had another meltdown on text and I ignored. I 1403 01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:41,600 Speaker 6: totally ghosted her, moved out of the neighborhood, worked and 1404 01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:44,800 Speaker 6: studied at UNI. I got my own apartment, got myself 1405 01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:49,560 Speaker 6: new friends, matured out of that whole relationship. Four years later, 1406 01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:52,360 Speaker 6: Sarah called me asking for us to meet up, and 1407 01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:53,120 Speaker 6: I agreed. 1408 01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:54,280 Speaker 2: Oh. 1409 01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,760 Speaker 6: When we meet, she told me how she felt, and 1410 01:04:56,840 --> 01:05:01,640 Speaker 6: I told her everything I have ever I felt, seen, done, 1411 01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,200 Speaker 6: and heard from our relationship. I told her that her 1412 01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:06,800 Speaker 6: instincts messed my life up and that my new life 1413 01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,720 Speaker 6: is exactly what I wanted, and that she could never 1414 01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,480 Speaker 6: have that type of role in my life again. We 1415 01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:14,680 Speaker 6: can stay acquainted and get to know each other as 1416 01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:18,680 Speaker 6: adults now, but as an adult I have other boundaries. 1417 01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:20,240 Speaker 5: There's just a little bit left. 1418 01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:25,160 Speaker 10: Man oh man, yeah, ohp hold strong, don't honestly I 1419 01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:25,960 Speaker 10: would block her. 1420 01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:29,120 Speaker 5: I wouldn't even get crazy. We don't even need to 1421 01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:30,000 Speaker 5: know each other as adults. 1422 01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:31,600 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no no. 1423 01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,120 Speaker 10: Like, yeah, you might have been there for her so 1424 01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,760 Speaker 10: much as a kid, but like at this point, she 1425 01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:42,800 Speaker 10: has lied, manipulated, just been such an like comedically awful 1426 01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:46,360 Speaker 10: person that it doesn't even seem real. 1427 01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:51,040 Speaker 2: How awful she is. So block her. Never talk to 1428 01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:51,760 Speaker 2: her again. 1429 01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:54,560 Speaker 5: And enjoy your life with Patrick. Yeah. 1430 01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:57,760 Speaker 6: She actually accepted this and was just happy to be forgiven. 1431 01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:00,600 Speaker 6: She even met my husband and apologies guys for her 1432 01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:03,680 Speaker 6: misconception of him. She wished me a good life, and 1433 01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,480 Speaker 6: since then we have met maybe once every two years 1434 01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:08,720 Speaker 6: out of coincidence, and we are friendly. 1435 01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:11,480 Speaker 5: I have now been with my husband. 1436 01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:12,120 Speaker 2: For eight years. 1437 01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,920 Speaker 6: Everyone around us loves us. We are a big, blended family. 1438 01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:19,360 Speaker 6: And we are expecting soon as well. Sarah still lives 1439 01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:21,640 Speaker 6: at home, and I think she's working full time and 1440 01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:23,440 Speaker 6: managing her life accordingly. 1441 01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:24,800 Speaker 5: That is the end of this