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Speaker 2: Now it's time for this week's redeem Team member, brought

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Speaker 2: to you by Hulu's Chad Powers. This week it's Jake Moody,

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Speaker 2: the Bears kicker released by the Niners after having a

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Speaker 2: rough Week one. On Monday, Jake got redemption four field goals,

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Speaker 2: including the game winner against the Commanders. Chad Powers now

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Speaker 2: streaming with new episodes Tuesday on Hulu and Hulu on

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Speaker 2: Disney Plus for bundles subscribers, terms apply. Okay, I haven't

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Speaker 2: talked to Matt mosey in, a long time host of

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Speaker 2: the Doomsday Podcast with Ed Werder, but Ed's not here today,

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Speaker 2: so let's just say Matt's the host and Ed will

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Speaker 2: have to give you know, deal with all the you

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Speaker 2: know land mines after this. So, first of all, longtime,

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Speaker 2: no talk. It's I thought this was a four win team.

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Speaker 2: I thought Schottenheimer was going to be a disaster, and

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Speaker 2: yet the offense is cooking with no CD LAMB. They're

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Speaker 2: rebuilding the old line. Dave Williams looks pretty good. They

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Speaker 2: don't have a number one receiver. I think Pickens is

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Speaker 2: more of a two. What is Brian Schottenheimer, who hadn't

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Speaker 1: What's the secret sauce here? By the way, I mean,

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Speaker 1: they have CD coming back, so you know, I think

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Speaker 1: we would agree he's a legit one. He's great. Pickens

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Speaker 1: playing himself into a big contract. And see, Jerry has

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Speaker 1: all this room now to deal with, you know, getting

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Speaker 1: so Jerry can can move around and do some things.

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Speaker 1: It really is kind of sad though, because it feels

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Speaker 1: like it's gonna be wasted. They're gonna win more than

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Speaker 1: four games, but they're losing games. And this is probably

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Speaker 1: the best Dak's ever played. This is the most comfortable

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Speaker 1: he's been. And thinking about what you just said, without CD,

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Speaker 1: Colin they were. I mean, they had Juvante bottled up

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Speaker 1: Caleb in Chicago. But maybe Ben Johnson is turning that

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Speaker 1: the offense is great. It looks so much better honestly

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Speaker 1: than even McCarthy because they're just more inventive. They're getting

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Speaker 1: more people involved. Their running game looks better, like what

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Speaker 1: they're doing with their tight ends. I mean, think about that.

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Speaker 1: Ferguson didn't have a touchdown all of last season. I

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Speaker 1: only get a single touchdown, he said, like four in

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Speaker 1: the last four weeks. But he's on a roll. And

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Speaker 1: then you know he's doing for Pickens what Romo used

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Speaker 1: Miles Austin. You know, Romo used to elevate guys, and

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Speaker 1: Dak's even doing that because Pickens looks incredible and he's

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Speaker 1: looked like a number one. But I think your four

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Speaker 1: the NFC East is so bad, Like this thing looks

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Speaker 1: bad right now and this could have been a year

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Speaker 1: with a league average defense, Cowboys could have a great

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Speaker 1: looks right now and they're not going to be able

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Speaker 1: no I don't really see any path foward, like anybody

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Speaker 2: What I've said this it's the Shaq Kobe trade. The

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Speaker 2: But in the end it was the right move. I

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Speaker 2: think I am the only syndicated voice TV or radio

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Speaker 2: that has said I love moving Dak. Jerry's a deal.

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Speaker 2: In the last two years. He couldn't pay eight million

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Speaker 2: dollars for Derrick Henry. You took the oil man and

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Speaker 2: the maverick and you muted his ability to do any

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Speaker 2: deals because they were too top heavy. And now Dak

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Speaker 2: I mean, Fred Warner did, Boss do Micah did? You're

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Speaker 2: I think Dallas long term is better without Micah. I

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Speaker 2: just think you're gonna lose this trade because Green Bay

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Speaker 1: And you're gonna look bad. You're gonna look like.

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Speaker 2: Kobe with the Lakers waiting to get Gasol shacks in

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Speaker 2: in the end, Gasol was the better fit.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but the quarterback is going to be thirty four

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Speaker 1: so I mean, what's happening right now is they're wasting

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Speaker 1: a brilliant year. He was second. I mean, I know

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Speaker 1: Does he run the ball anymore? No? But like he's

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Speaker 1: And again that's where it all comes back to. I mean,

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Speaker 2: So Dallas, I mean, there's how does the Dallas media.

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Speaker 2: I mean, now that Mark Cuban has sold the Mavericks.

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Speaker 2: And I thought I was always.

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Speaker 1: Fair with Dak.

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Speaker 2: But he's lost Hall of Fame talent, and it's rarely

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Speaker 2: I look at it and I'm like, I always try

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Speaker 1: Now I'm not.

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Speaker 2: Dak Prescott's intelligence and maturity. I haven't even thrown in

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Speaker 1: We're just gonna have to. I mean, the critics, and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I only spent ten years trying to convince

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Speaker 1: He didn't have the Super Bowl. And guess where DeMarcus

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Speaker 1: You got a super Bowl. Finally. Teams here don't get

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Speaker 1: Dak to your point, I mean, he is playing great,

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Speaker 2: Like if you have the quarterback, and Dak is clearly

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Speaker 1: They're paying huge money to their quarterbacks and they're not playing.

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Speaker 2: You know? Mannings aren't Texans, but Texas football is you know,

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Speaker 2: mean think about this, A Louisiana kid goes to New

430
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Speaker 2: York and for like twenty years completely only Jeter maybe

431
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Speaker 2: handle the US better. Eli handles the New York Press

432
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Speaker 2: for two decades perfectly. Eli is one of the great

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Speaker 2: guys that has ever been in pro sports as a

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Speaker 2: human being. I mean he went to New York as

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Speaker 2: a Southern kid and charmed him and by the way,

436
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Speaker 2: totally authentic. Nothing's fake Eli. The three times I've been

437
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Speaker 2: around him, he's the exact same.

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Speaker 1: Guy, by the way, with and I hope you you

439
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Speaker 1: have so many associations it's hard to know, so I

440
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Speaker 1: hope I'm not gonna rip some guy that his buddies

441
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Speaker 1: with you. But t Key was undermining him like crazy

442
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Speaker 1: early on, was the stuff he was calling him in

443
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Speaker 1: the huddle like but I mean, I remember showing up

444
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Speaker 1: there when I was at ESPN dot com and they

445
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Speaker 1: were they were having to basically give the guy like

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Speaker 1: body language classes, like Eli, stop making this face, stop

447
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,360
Speaker 1: lowering your head, do it this way. You can't hang

448
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 1: dog it like that, because that's just who he was.

449
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Speaker 1: That's just the man. And of course then he has

450
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Speaker 1: an incredible two thousand and seven run. Then he has

451
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Speaker 1: another Super Bowl run, and then he's a make man.

452
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Speaker 1: And it didn't finish well, but he did enough to

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you should have seen te Key the

454
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Speaker 1: stuff he was like he was being. I mean, they

455
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Speaker 1: were awful to Eli. It was like they're pledging him. Man.

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Speaker 1: It was like when you were trying to go Sigma

457
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Speaker 1: Kai or whatever. They were all over him and and

458
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Speaker 1: he was uh. And that was a rough time early

459
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Speaker 1: in his time because he was the number one bonus

460
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Speaker 1: baby and his dad had taken over and uh and

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Speaker 1: gotten him to be drafted in a different place. And

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Speaker 1: that as we see with you know, any any of

463
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Speaker 1: these quarterbacks who have famous dads, then you have to

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Speaker 1: wear that for a while, you know, in the league.

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Speaker 1: But to your point, I used to. I used to

466
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Speaker 1: get in the car and ride around with Eli and

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Speaker 1: do stories on him at the Giant's practice, and it

468
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Speaker 1: couldn't You're right, he to be from this famous family,

469
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Speaker 1: and I saw him in social situations where people were

470
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Speaker 1: trying to flood around him, and he was truly it

471
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Speaker 1: wasn't like just he was playing possum. He was almost

472
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Speaker 1: kind of like troubled by it. So what I love

473
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Speaker 1: now is that he's very funny, Like he and Hayton

474
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Speaker 1: are perfect together. Genuinely. Yeah, it isn't that the perfect thing?

475
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Speaker 1: They failed? Why put yourself through the ringer of having

476
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Speaker 1: to do a three hour game every Sunday and do

477
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Speaker 1: all that? Why not just sit there and goof off

478
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Speaker 1: for a game? And they're great at it, and you know,

479
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Speaker 1: I find myself watching that more than the actual game.

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Speaker 2: So how are you doing, my man? I mean, we

481
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Speaker 2: don't get a talk. You know, we're both busy as hell.

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Speaker 2: Are you still doing that? Are you still doing that

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Speaker 2: ESPN radio show down.

484
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Speaker 1: In by Yeah, Central Texas, that whole area I left.

485
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Speaker 1: I've got a new YouTube show through Rogue Media. Appreciate

486
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Speaker 1: you asking me the Matt Moseley Show, so people can

487
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Speaker 1: find it wherever they find out. And you know, I

488
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Speaker 1: thought about this when you said something about being syndicated. Now,

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Speaker 1: my syndication doesn't quite go to as many states as

490
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Speaker 1: you do, but several states across the Southwest. Now, I'm

491
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Speaker 1: a part of something called the E Radio Network, and

492
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Speaker 1: so I do a radio show that hits all the

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Speaker 1: Fox and ESPN affiliates in about five states in the morning,

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Speaker 1: and by afternoon I do this YouTube show. So we're

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Speaker 1: all doing YouTube shows now. I saw Michael Irvin is

496
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Speaker 1: doing one, and I know your production staff, Josh and

497
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Speaker 1: the whole gang were very impressed that I actually went

498
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Speaker 1: out and I bought myself like a tracking camera and

499
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Speaker 1: all the things that you need to really, you know,

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Speaker 1: really act like a grown up in this business.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, and now for our next segment, Whiskey Business. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Whiskey Business, brought to you by Green River Whiskey, the

503
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Speaker 2: official whiskey of the Colin Coward Podcast. I want to

504
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Speaker 2: go back to the mica trade. So there's a lot

505
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Speaker 2: of finger pointing and a lot of my audience isn't

506
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Speaker 2: in Dallas, right, And I've always leaned on guys like

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Speaker 2: you who know you know, you're You're a soldier, You're

508
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Speaker 2: a foot soldier, you're in the belly, you know of

509
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Speaker 2: this beast, the cowboys. When the mica trade went down,

510
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Speaker 2: people overwhelmingly didn't like it. But can we blame anybody?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 1: Was it?

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Speaker 2: I mean, because because the national press was basically Jerry

514
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Speaker 2: doesn't know what he's doing. And my take is, you're

515
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Speaker 2: not one of the richest Americans. It's almost like I

516
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 2: always tell people about Trump, whether you like him or not,

517
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Speaker 2: what he's done in the Middle East, with the border

518
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Speaker 2: he won for a second time, pretty competitive country. He

519
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 2: can't be a dope. There's got to be the light

520
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 2: bulb's got to be on most of the time. Jerry's

521
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 2: been too rich, too successful, too smart in business to

522
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Speaker 2: not know what he's doing in that deal. He knows

523
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Speaker 2: when the money doesn't sound right. I defended it because

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Speaker 2: Micah in big playoff games and in big games sometimes

525
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Speaker 2: disappeared and was engulfed by the better left tackles.

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Speaker 1: How did it play? Is there?

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Speaker 2: If you look at it now in hindsight, could it

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Speaker 2: have ever? I mean, they didn't make him an offer.

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Speaker 3: Matt.

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Speaker 1: We don't know. I mean, I don't even know he

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Speaker 1: made him an offer. And that's where the thing fell

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Speaker 1: apart is because it came across to the agent and

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Speaker 1: Micah later on that Jerry tried to take advantage of him,

534
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Speaker 1: and that's where the thing went south. Jerry thought he

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Speaker 1: had a deal with him and it was gonna be

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Speaker 1: a massive deal. I don't think it was going to

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Speaker 1: be as good as a deal as he got with

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Speaker 1: the Packers. The shocking thing about this is Jerry's never

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, they had the Hearschel Walker trade and

540
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Speaker 1: all that, but he's never had like a guy who's

541
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Speaker 1: arguably the best defensive player in the NFL. He's never

542
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: let a superstar get away. I mean, he did a

543
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Speaker 1: horrible deal with Zeke. I think he just honestly flat

544
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: out got tired of getting beat on these deals. He

545
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: makes you know, CDs the highest paid receiver, second hight

546
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Speaker 1: paper receiver in the game, that's the highest paid quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I think Jerry saw an opportunity to, in his mind,

548
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Speaker 1: go a different direction here, and they just made each

549
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Speaker 1: other mad. I think he embarrassed and tried to make

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Speaker 1: Micah look like a guy who was confused and didn't

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Speaker 1: understand the business. Okay, and then I think all that

552
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Speaker 1: stuff Micah did, I mean, I still think it could

553
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Speaker 1: have they could have gotten a deal done. And then

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Speaker 1: Micah went to camp and I was there, and Micah

555
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Speaker 1: started showing people up and and and getting on and

556
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Speaker 1: taking naps and lying down on the trainer table or

557
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Speaker 1: you know, training table on the during a game. I

558
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Speaker 1: think both sides kind of embarrassed each other and then

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Speaker 1: they moved on. Now what I what I wonder about

560
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Speaker 1: is when a guy gets traded, you'll start hearing leaks

561
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Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, it's a bad guy, or he

562
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Speaker 1: was immature and he was this and that. I will say,

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Speaker 1: you talk about me being there and I watched him

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Speaker 1: and he was trying to be a leader, like I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying he was great at it, but Micah I

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Speaker 1: was at his locker almost every single game, and while

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Speaker 1: other players were slinking out of there after a lot

568
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Speaker 1: of those losses last year, Micah was trying. Now he

569
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Speaker 1: would screw up and accidentally throw his coach under the bus,

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Speaker 1: like he had moments where he messed up, and he

571
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Speaker 1: sounded like a twenty four year old kid or twenty

572
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Speaker 1: five whatever he is. But man, he I think he

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Speaker 1: tried more than they're letting on. And I think he's

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Speaker 1: I think, deep down, even with all the money, I

575
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: think people going out forty seven million, who cares. He's fine,

576
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Speaker 1: he's with the Packers. I think his feelings are hurt.

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Speaker 1: And I think Jerry tried to make him look bad,

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Speaker 1: and Jerry embarrassed him, and Jerry embarrassed the agent. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Jerry now has to turn around trying to get a

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Speaker 1: dill done with Mulgeta on George Pikett's that's who That's

581
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Speaker 1: who Pickens agent is. He's now got to turn around.

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Speaker 1: And Jerry not only embarrassed the player, but Jerry took

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Speaker 1: aim at that agent. And that's just unnecessary. Why do

584
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Speaker 1: you do that? Like, dude, I've been with all those Rangers,

585
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: GMS and covered baseball for many years, and do you

586
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: think all of them hated Boris? Sure, there was a

587
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: time when Scott Boris was the most hated man in

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Speaker 1: all the sports. But they knew they had to deal

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Speaker 1: with him. They knew if they wanted great players, they

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Speaker 1: had to deal with him. Well, Jerry just decided, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll just I'll just I'll just I'm just gonna piss

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Speaker 1: this guy off. I'm just gonna I'm gonna basically speak

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Speaker 1: to the character and the and the and I mean

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00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: just completely undermine the agent and everything. So that's where

595
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: Jerry did some weird stuff on this thing. Now I'm

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Speaker 1: with you in some respects. I want to see how

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Speaker 1: the trade plays out. But what fuels this tray, it's

598
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: the wrong stuff. What fuels Jerry is this eternal deal

599
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: to try to prove that he can do it without

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00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: Jimmy and so don't when he brought up the Herschel

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Speaker 1: trade immediately the night the trade was announced with Micah,

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00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: that's what all this is about. You realize that these

603
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: are two old men in their eighties still trying to

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00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: get back at each other. Yeah, and they'll make up

605
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: and they act like they love each other and they'll

606
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: cry on camera and all this. But you know what,

607
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: when Jimmy saw how that thing turned out Netflix, Jimmy

608
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: was like, that's just Jerry trying to rewrite history Jared.

609
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Speaker 1: He I guarantee you he looked at that whole thing

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Speaker 1: as a love letter to Jared, and he thinks a

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Speaker 1: lot of that stuff that came out in that documentary

612
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: was just made up complete bs. The bet the guy

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Speaker 1: who looked the best was Switzer. Yeah, Switzer ends up

614
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: looking like and I had Switzerland on the other day,

615
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: and he's still unbelievable his mind. You ought to have

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Speaker 1: him on soon. His mind at age eighty eight. He

617
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Speaker 1: just turned eighty eight. It's unbelievable, and he's funny. Now

618
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: he may say some stuff get everybody in trouble, but

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Speaker 1: Switzer actually looked okay at that documentary. But I think

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Speaker 1: that documentary's going to get Jimmy and Jerry back at

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Speaker 1: loggerheads again, and so they'll just go off into their

622
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: eighties still mad at each other, because at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, that's all Jerry's trying to do is

624
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Speaker 1: win one without Jimmy and he's never been able to

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Speaker 1: do it for thirty years, even even Washington. At least

626
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Speaker 1: you had Washington that had been forever since they had

627
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Speaker 1: been to the NFC title game. They go to one

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Speaker 1: with Jay Daniels, and you say, I heard you say, like, well,

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Speaker 1: we don't know what Washington is right now. You know what, though,

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Speaker 1: they appear to have a quarterback who's going to be

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Speaker 1: there for a decade. They're going to have fun. Same

632
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,479
Speaker 1: thing with New York. The Giants may win six games

633
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: this year, they may win five games, but they're kind

634
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Speaker 1: of interesting. All of a sudden, Dark's running around. I mean,

635
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: he's doing a Baker Mayfield impression. He's probably a better

636
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,240
Speaker 1: athlete than Baker, but they kind of are built alike.

637
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: The delivery seems alike. He play has a better arm

638
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: than Baker, but they're kind of alike in the way

639
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: they approach it and the fun they're having. Those organizations

640
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: all have something to look forward to. I mean, I'll

641
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Speaker 1: tell you who doesn't have sympathy for the Eagles fans

642
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: or the Cowboys fans. The Eagles fans have been to

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Speaker 1: two They've won two Super Bowls in the past decade,

644
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Speaker 1: and they're all whining and crying. Our offense looks bad.

645
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: Now Jay's not happy and Jayleen's not throwing the ball

646
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: for that much. Well, the last group that will ever

647
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: sympathize with them is anybody who's been around this Cowboys team,

648
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: because they Hawie Roseman. And I think you said it.

649
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: I think you're the one who said it. And I

650
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: was talking to people from Philadelphia and they agree. I had.

651
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: I talked with southpal just the other day that dude's

652
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 1: going the whole thing. Howie Roseman is going to the

653
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Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame. And I mean, he was

654
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 1: lucky if he had a cubicle and Chip Kelly was there.

655
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: You know, they put it. They basically treated him like

656
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Speaker 1: the movie The Office, and they just say, hey, can

657
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Speaker 1: you We need you to go down to the basement

658
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: for a little while. And now he's going to go

659
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame. And Jerry's just kind of still out,

660
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Speaker 1: just you know, wandering around in the darkness.

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Speaker 1: Hey, one thing, by the way, you're not talking about

667
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 1: these Aggies. Boy, You and I know anytime we talk

668
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 1: off air, you're like, hey, I know you think ut

669
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Speaker 1: is the is the is the straw that stirs the drink? Oh,

670
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: my lord, in this state right now, you've got that.

671
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:17,240
Speaker 1: You've got this perfect mixture of a struggling Longhorns number

672
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: one to unranked to whatever the right now Aggie's could be,

673
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: could be a national contender, national title contend are headed

674
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Speaker 1: toward the playoffs.

675
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 2: Even the r East local years, they always look the part.

676
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 1: They're always big.

677
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 2: They have NFL lineman, players, linebackers, receivers, they've always had

678
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 2: good players. They didn't they haven't had a lot of

679
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 2: great quarterbacks, but they've always had you know, the Texas

680
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: A and M has looked the part my entire life.

681
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: They need this guy just to be average. This that's how.

682
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 1: That's how good some of these linemen. You talk about

683
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: one trip to college station would would really do you

684
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,919
Speaker 1: some good. And I'm telling you this cash is how

685
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: like these these linemen they're just running them through somebody

686
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: named Regis and they're just running through NFL lineman and

687
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: I get it now. The difference is they're great. They're

688
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: actually really good on the old line. They're really good

689
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: at running back, and they get the best receiving duo

690
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: in the country right now. It's scary if they go

691
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: to Death Valley and beat LSU. We're I mean, this

692
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: is this is a whole different trajectory. And maybe this

693
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Speaker 1: coach kind of has a little something going. He loves

694
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Speaker 1: a good hoodie. He's kind of he just fits them

695
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: so much better than Jimbo. Jimbo is the most aloof dude.

696
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Speaker 1: He for some reason, Jimbo just didn't fit at all.

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Speaker 1: And this this, I mean this, Mike Ilko, he's got

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Speaker 1: something going on. You know. He's got me wanting to

699
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Speaker 1: wear hoodies.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm in I live in Chicago now, so that's

701
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Speaker 2: all I wear. I'm going to get out of this dress.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're you're still in the deal where you

703
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Speaker 1: can wear like a thin guy hoodie like Elko and

704
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Speaker 1: I have to have the we got to have a

705
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Speaker 1: big hoodie to take us in. But the thin, the

706
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 1: thin hoodie looks great on golfers and everything. I would

707
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: love there was a time I could pull it off,

708
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Speaker 1: but we will pass that.

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Speaker 2: Matt Mosley, say hi to Ed the Doomsday Podcast. How

710
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Speaker 2: often do you do that thing? A couple of times

711
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Speaker 2: a week ninety minutes.

712
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we hit that thing pretty hard for it.

713
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,720
Speaker 1: We just needed cowboys to be horrible or really good.

714
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Speaker 1: We just can't have them be in the middle. But

715
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Speaker 1: we do that a couple of times. We'll have some

716
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Speaker 1: big interviews, we'll do it after the post game, and

717
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Speaker 1: then we have a whole bunch of other stuff we do.

718
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Speaker 1: But yeah, Ed's I mean, I you know, would it

719
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Speaker 1: be easier if I had like one hundred and fifty

720
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Speaker 1: employees than having one employee in Ed? You bet, you bet.

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Speaker 1: I would rather. I would rather try to have about

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Speaker 1: one hundred. No, Ed's great, and we're doing fine, The

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Speaker 1: Doomsday Podcast continues.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you've been doing it for how many years?

725
00:39:58,840 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 1: Seven or eight years.

726
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Speaker 2: That's like a lot of years to do a podcast. Yeah, no,

727
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 2: it is they you know, it's funny. Maybe it's just

728
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 2: the popularity of football, but I still find myself Dallas

729
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 2: is such an interesting brand because sometimes I don't I

730
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Speaker 2: don't know you know, Jerry has always supported Dak, and

731
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Speaker 2: one of the reasons I think he's supported him is

732
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Speaker 2: because Jerry fears irrelevance and Dak's good enough to always

733
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Speaker 2: make you relevant. I mean, you look in this league,

734
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Speaker 2: there's about seven teams every year that are unwatchable. The

735
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 2: Cowboys are watchable. I didn't think this was going to

736
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Speaker 2: be the year, but they're always watchable. There's a world

737
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Speaker 2: that exists that Ceedee Lamb comes back the online meshes

738
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Speaker 2: and they win like nine games. That's a real thing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I've watched every snap of every game. They're

740
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 2: a CD LAMB drop from having beaten Philadelphia. They played

741
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 2: they played a horrible game against Chicago, the defense was

742
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 2: just lost. But that they're in everything. Like they play

743
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 2: Washington this weekend. That thing could be thirty three to

744
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,240
Speaker 2: thirty coin flip either way. I mean, I just watched

745
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams and DeAndre Swift dash I mean DeAndre Swift

746
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Speaker 2: the holes created by the Bears O line against Washington.

747
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 2: Dallas is going to drop twenty eight to thirty points on.

748
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Speaker 1: Washington and they have to do it. They have to

749
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Speaker 1: score thirty to thirty five game and to your point,

750
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: the high wire act of watching them attempt to do

751
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: it is kind of fun, and then they're capable of

752
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Speaker 1: doing it, and we're The point you made earlier was

753
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Speaker 1: a great one, and that Dak and used to be

754
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: Romo could do this, and Dak could. Romo used to

755
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: elevate bad offensive lines and kind of subpar offenses, and

756
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 1: he made some receivers a ton of money. Dak in

757
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 1: chapter eleven, I think you called it, has found a

758
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: way to do that. And in that one game where

759
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: they went out and went crazy against the Jets, No,

760
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 1: the Jets are dreadful, but four starting offensive linemen out

761
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Speaker 1: and it didn't matter. The ball was coming out, and

762
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Speaker 1: you got to give Shatty some credit for that. The

763
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: thing I hate for Shady it's like you with pitchers,

764
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Speaker 1: especially this time of year. We talked about give him

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Speaker 1: a clean inning, get the reliever. Wish we give him

766
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Speaker 1: a clean inning. Wish he could have had a clean

767
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: start to his head coaching career. Wish about five days

768
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: before that, they didn't trade his best player to see

769
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Speaker 1: what he could have done with a full arsenal of players.

770
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: Because this marriage is not working and poor. They cleaned

771
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: up Ibra Flus's haircut when he was in Chico, Kago.

772
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Speaker 1: They got his wife, got him closely cropped, and she

773
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: got some good things going there. But he lost his

774
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,439
Speaker 1: coaching career. He's lost his way well, and he can't

775
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: can't find it. And there's nobody to turn this thing

776
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Speaker 1: over to because he brought people with it. Yeah, they

777
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: let I mean the same people that were with him

778
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Speaker 1: when he felled in Chicago or with him now. I

779
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: don't think there's I do not think this defense is fixable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Eberflus. You know, listen, we know coordinators often get

781
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Speaker 2: elevated to head coaches and they're just not built for it.

782
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Speaker 2: And there's probably a few position coaches that get elevated

783
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Speaker 2: to coordinators and they're not built for it. Failure, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's it's it's just part of football. I mean, I

785
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 2: say this all the time. Jason McIntyre and I talked

786
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Speaker 2: about it the other day. He asked, who's the next

787
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 2: great automatic higher? So when the Broncos hired Peyton, you

788
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 2: knew it would work. When the Chargers hired Harbaugh, you.

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Speaker 1: Knew it would work.

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Speaker 2: I argued in the off season, and the Patriots were

791
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 2: going to double their win total. Mike Vrabel was gonna

792
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 2: work about every other year. I mean, Mike McCarthy to

793
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Speaker 2: Dallas was going to have some success. He's a solid coach.

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Speaker 1: He and Aaron. Aaron can be hard to get along

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Speaker 1: with it.

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Speaker 2: It's funny if Schottenheimer leaves. So McIntyre asked this question,

797
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Speaker 2: who's the guarant and there's about one every other year

798
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Speaker 2: where you're like, oh, yeah, that'll win games. Peyton, Harbaugh,

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Speaker 2: Vrabel McCarthy. If I said to you, Brian Schottenheimer lasts

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Speaker 2: a year, is there a name I gotta I'll throw

801
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 2: it out at you. You're gonna think I'm crazy here.

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00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 2: You're gonna think I'm crazy. Belichick look to do. Bill

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Speaker 2: Belichick taking over. Bill Belichick takes over the Dallas Cowboys

804
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Speaker 2: college is a disaster. He doesn't fit. He doesn't have

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Speaker 2: a college sensibility. Belichick, by the way, is not good

806
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Speaker 2: with personnel, and that you could go to him and say, Bill,

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Speaker 2: we do not trust you on personnel.

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00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: We need a coach that nuts only No, it wouldn't

809
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: have been. But I think he's embarrassed himself and I

810
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 1: think he's hurt his credibility so bad. He hasn't damaged

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Speaker 1: his legacy that will always be there. But he can't.

812
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: I don't see him leading the team and the fits

813
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: not good because the guy he learned from and he

814
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: came up under Bill Parcells has already been with the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: And let me tell you, and I love Bill and

816
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: still keep in touch with him. That was the most

817
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Speaker 1: miserable I ever saw Jerry. Jerry cannot function in a

818
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: world with a head coach like that. So and to

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00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: your point about McCarthy, isn't that funny? You know what

820
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 1: I'm seeing right now? When you say who are going

821
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,479
Speaker 1: to be the hot coach in the NFL, his name

822
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 1: is one of the first ones you see. It's same

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Speaker 1: things James Franklin. Right now, he bottoms out with Penn State,

824
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Speaker 1: and by the time these hires are made, Franklin's gonna

825
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Speaker 1: seem like this incredible choice for these SEC openings, right

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Speaker 1: Florida Auburn, Franklin wanted Vandy. He's coaching the SEC like

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Speaker 1: Franklin's going to be a hot name and he just

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Speaker 1: he just bottomed out three of the worst weeks in

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Speaker 1: the history of college football. But yeah, that's a fascinating

830
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: thing to imagine Belichick. But Jerry likes having a good

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00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:37,439
Speaker 1: time too much to put up with having a bad

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Speaker 1: time to have a good time, if you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, Belichick, he can't. Yeah, and now he would

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Speaker 1: like the Jordan Hudson aspect of it. Jerry would like that.

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Speaker 1: He would like some of the side show if some

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Speaker 1: of that came to town. But dealing he would not want.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Bill wouldn't want an owner out there. Now

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00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Shot He's doing well enough as an

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Speaker 1: offensive coach that Jerry's kind of excited. So Jerry is

840
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: in the mindset right now of if we just get

841
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: if we do something to get the defense going. We

842
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: can do this with Shoddy. We could do this with

843
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: Shoddy because there's a belief right now with a way

844
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:26,280
Speaker 1: DA's playing that they found the perfect guy for Dak.

845
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Speaker 1: So there won't be a firing after this season. I know,

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00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: I remember you saying maybe Shoty could be one and done.

847
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 1: But shot he's doing too well on offense. He's doing

848
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: too well on offense to get fired. So they have

849
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: to go with their third defensive coordinator in the last

850
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: three years. They cannot hire defensive coordinators. They're horrific at it.

851
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 1: Mike Nolan was horrible, Quinn had a pretty good run.

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00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: Quinn gets hired to be a head coach. Then they

853
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 1: have two more bad ones. They had Rob Ryan before

854
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: Marinelli and Monte Kiffin. That was a rough That was

855
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: kind of a rough scene. They were kind of you know,

856
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: they were past their prime. They're right, really just can't

857
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: They're horrible at it. You know what, By the way,

858
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: isn't it interesting.

859
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 3: That that Garrett's never gotten another opportunity because it's like,

860
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 3: if you're decent with the Cowboys and you win a

861
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 3: ton of games, and I promise you when they interviewed

862
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 3: him for the Falcons and the Ravens before he got

863
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 3: the Cowboys job, he.

864
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: Blew them all away, like they were they were blown

865
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 1: away by Garrett. But I guess his his time as

866
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: the office coordinator with Giants just kind of ruined his reputation.

867
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 2: I think, yes, I think Jason Garrett is one of

868
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 2: the few NFL coaches that would work very well in college.

869
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 2: I think he's a very pleasant guy. He's very bright,

870
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 2: kind of a gentle personality. He'd play to the ad

871
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 2: the donors. I think if Jason Garrett wanted wanted a

872
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,720
Speaker 2: college job. I mean, let's say, for instance, Michigan doesn't

873
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 2: work for more, it just doesn't work. Jason Garrett. I've

874
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 2: said this, there's a personality matters a lot as a

875
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 2: college coach. It matters not one bit as a pro coach,

876
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 2: but it does matter as a college coach. That's why

877
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,879
Speaker 2: I VOA said John Gruden and Rex Ryan could work

878
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 2: as college coaches. Belichick and Parcels it wouldn't work. Saban's

879
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:29,280
Speaker 2: actually charming, Saban's funny, He's witty, great storyteller. Jason Garrett

880
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 2: could work as a college coach. And especially I mean,

881
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 2: he's a really nice guy. I've texted him a few times.

882
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 2: If you told me, you know, Sark's not leaving. If

883
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 2: you told me you know, I'm just trying to think

884
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 2: of a you know, Tennessee's got the right coach, so

885
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 2: does Alabama. You know, if you told me Michigan was

886
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 2: open a big job. If Marcus Freeman ever left Notre Dame,

887
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 2: although I don't think he should or will. I think

888
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:03,919
Speaker 2: Jason Garrett works collegiately. That's interesting. Yeah, I think you're

889
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 2: I think you're right in some ways.

890
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: If he had, if he could navigate the whole n

891
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Speaker 1: IO world.

892
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 2: Didn't he do notre name games? He's doing notre name games.

893
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 2: I mean, I've I've heard him doing that.

894
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: He was, Yeah, and he and he and he does

895
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: the NBC stuff. Yeah, it's it would just be I

896
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 1: think he thought he was going to get the offered

897
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 1: the duke job at one point and maybe maybe that

898
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: was when Elko got the job or something like that.

899
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: That would have been a perfect job for him. Any

900
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: sort of a CC that thinks of itself as like

901
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: an IVY League, That's that's where Garrett could function brilliantly.

902
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: And let's not you know you just Richard Michigan. They

903
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: think of themselves as like lofty academics, intellectuals. What do

904
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: they call those Michigan men.

905
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 2: Well like that, there's a there's a term, it's called

906
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 2: a something Ivy Penn State, Michigan both view themselves as

907
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 2: that like a non traditional IVY League school. The educational

908
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 2: level is very high. Yeah, No, I Garrett, Garrett could

909
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 2: do it. College football. You're you're watching it with Belichick

910
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 2: some of that harsh Northeast grumpy ship. It doesn't work.

911
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta shake hands you gotta know, you

912
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 2: gotta sometimes dance in the locker room with the players.

913
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. Sorry, do you know Macwill said, it's very rare. Yeah,

914
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: even to your point. Even the great Saban like had

915
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: players that would imitate him. Yes, and there was fun

916
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: stuff that was probably happening and we didn't always see it.

917
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: But now that you see that, he kind of can

918
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: be funny and can smile and all that. But it's

919
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: hard to run a program like that anymore. Though. It's

920
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: hard to be that authoritarian, just hard fist. I mean, like,

921
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: I wonder if Lanning, I know he got beat the

922
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: other day, is Signetti. I mean, that's that's the biggest

923
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: that's the craziest story the past twenty years in college football.

924
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: Some dude goes into I mean, he's winning at James Madison.

925
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: Who in the world would have ever known sixties. We

926
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: had no clue, none of us, And he tried to

927
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: tell us he is the at age sixty three or

928
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: sixty four, where kind of the I've seen people in

929
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: the Big twelve like this Climb and Lance Leipol. They

930
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: are good coaches, but they're just kind of the same

931
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: older tough dude. Signetti came in Cockier and all get out.

932
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,240
Speaker 1: He's the cockiest coach in America. And he's like sixty

933
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: five and he's like, hey, google me. You think I

934
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: don't have to win? Google me? And he's and he's

935
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: just going out there and backed it up in Indiana,

936
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: like I mean, Colin, they're like great, they're linebackers, they're

937
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: defensive ends, they're like like I just thought it was

938
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: He's just great, got a great scheme. What's going on here?

939
00:52:56,320 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: And it's like, no, he's got great players. I still

940
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: think that Landing is pretty unbelievable. Yeah, I do. I mean,

941
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: and again, I don't know, I don't know if that

942
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: works it. I think that guy at Arizona State, and

943
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 1: I know they're losing right now, that guy's good too.

944
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: At the you're right though, at the collegiate level, that

945
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:19,320
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946
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:24,720
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947
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 1: but you know what's the guy at Franklin just wore

948
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: out his welcome. He won a ton of games, but

949
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: he just couldn't he couldn't break through. And now and

950
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,160
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951
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,680
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952
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:42,160
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953
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:43,960
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954
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: convince themselves we need Matt Ruhle. He played linebacker here

955
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,080
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956
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,120
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957
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,960
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958
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,600
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959
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,560
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Speaker 1: He turned my own motor around.

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