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Speaker 1: This isn't a surprise. It's a surprise that it's happened

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Speaker 1: this quickly. But Brandon Hyde is not the problem, much

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Speaker 1: like Bud Black wasn't the problem, much like Dirk shuldn

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Speaker 2: A lot of news this weekend, A lot of news

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Speaker 2: this weekend. We'll get to it in just a sec. AJ,

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Speaker 2: how was your weekend? How's your travels?

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Speaker 1: I was home this weekend, so I got'm easy. I

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Speaker 1: didn't do anything this weekend. I was home. My son

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, congratulations to Austin.

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Speaker 1: It was easy. It was easy weekend.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 2: You just sat home watching the first few innings of

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Speaker 2: the Orioles games because that's all you needed to watch, right.

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Speaker 1: Well, they were down seven to nothing pretty much every game,

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Speaker 2: We were texted at our group chat. We're like, and

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Speaker 2: they're down a ton early on again. I'll just reiterate

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Speaker 2: your take on how fun it is for an offense,

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Speaker 2: even though it's only a month and a half into

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Speaker 2: damn it again. We got a lot of work to

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Speaker 2: do today, boys. But let's get into it because there's

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Speaker 2: a coaching change. Let's charge them out. Brandon Hyde out,

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Speaker 2: Tony Manselino in as the interim manager. But there is

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Speaker 2: dysfunction at this point with the Orioles. This is turning

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Speaker 2: into a very bad team very quickly. AJ Since you

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Speaker 2: got to see the early blowouts, what were you observing

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Speaker 2: rest of the season. We know this is a scapegoat.

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Speaker 1: Well they can't. They fall behind three, four or five

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Speaker 1: nothing in the first two innings every game. It's hard

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Speaker 1: to play like that. I don't care how good your

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Speaker 1: offense is supposed to be and how good it prospects

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Speaker 1: you have and how many this and that. So listen,

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Speaker 1: it's not Brandon Heights fall. It sucks that he got fired.

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Speaker 1: But I mean michaelas we talked about it, I mean

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Speaker 1: Tyler O'Neil was their big offseason edition. He's hurt. He's

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Speaker 1: always had a history of being hurt. That's the guy

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Speaker 1: you go and get. Why would you not spend that

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Speaker 1: You know, if you have all these outfield prospects and

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Speaker 1: these other guys, I understand you need some right handed power,

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Speaker 1: but I think you could have made a different move

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Speaker 1: But I don't know. I think that this team is

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Speaker 1: in trouble. They're obviously, you know, they fire the manager,

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Speaker 1: it just costs Brandon Hyde his job.

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Speaker 4: Everybody everybody looks at teams and they say, okay, well

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Speaker 4: they're not doing good or this player he's not doing good.

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Speaker 4: Will you send him down when they don't do good,

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Speaker 4: whether they're a good player or not. You can't do

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Speaker 4: that to a manager or a GM. A GM Michael

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Speaker 4: Lias put this team together and he gave them no

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Speaker 4: bad for If Grayson Rodriguez goes down, if in the

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Speaker 4: last two years, Tyler Wells goes down, if I'm forgetting

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Speaker 4: who else has gotten injured in their pitching staff, but

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Speaker 4: it gave them no backup. So what happens then is

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Speaker 4: you have to answer to that as a GM why

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Speaker 4: does this team not have enough depth? But for some

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Speaker 4: reason GM's don't get you know, they don't get treated

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Speaker 4: quite the same way, and the manager loses his job.

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Speaker 4: But from an offensive standpoint, you go, how are we

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Speaker 4: supposed to put together at bats? I'm a big league

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Speaker 4: team no matter who you're facing, unless it's the Rockies,

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Speaker 4: they give up a lot of runs anyway, how are

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Speaker 3: But they made wrong moves.

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Speaker 2: I mean, for example, Charlie Moore in has looked like

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Speaker 2: for him. Kyle Gibson was given four starts. He was

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Speaker 2: torpedoed back out of baseball for now, right, and that

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Speaker 2: within itself. Late pitcher signings have been a big problem

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Speaker 2: then we've seen many trends where a guy gets called up,

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Speaker 3: Aja.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the thought process was here for

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Speaker 2: be healthier, but they're not. Like Kratz mentioned, Bradish second half,

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Speaker 2: Grayson Rodriguez probably second half. They he did get Burns

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Speaker 2: They talked about how they made a good offer to Burns,

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Speaker 3: So now, what is Tony Mansilino going to save the day?

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Speaker 2: And the Oriols are gonna make the playoffs most likely not?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't care how hot they're hit or

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Speaker 1: And again that Brandon Hide doesn't throw the ball. Brandon

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Speaker 4: didn't want to go there whether they didn't make enough

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Speaker 4: went from option one the Burns annual AAV which would

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Speaker 2: Now important piece of the puzzle Oriols payroll this year

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Speaker 2: versus last year AJA sixty six million dollars more this

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Speaker 2: that's not the case.

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Speaker 1: But where that money goes? The key where the money

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Speaker 1: I'm saying is they signed Tyler was a three year deal. Okay,

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Speaker 1: a long history of being injured. Oh sixteen, I outs Sigana, Right,

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Speaker 1: If you're going to spend sixty six million and make

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Speaker 1: it go up, I know there were some raises involved

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Speaker 2: Do you guys remember the year that the Angels spent

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Speaker 3: It was bad to me. We get shades of that

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Speaker 2: Michael Lias is operating right now. They're not looking for

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Speaker 3: Michael Oyas failed. This has to be on him.

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Speaker 3: It's just like, what are we doing here?

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Speaker 3: This is a terrible team right now.

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Speaker 4: You're getting rid of other guys. The other piece is

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Speaker 4: What added value? What surplus value are the Orioles finding

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Speaker 2: And we are seeing, in my mind, teams that have

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Speaker 2: You can't just keep operating with what you have, and

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Speaker 3: Let's show some quick history.

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Speaker 2: Here, Jason Stark pointing out how Skip Schumacher and Brandon

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Speaker 2: Eighteen months later, neither of them are managers twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: Francona is not in Cleveland. Tough gig.

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Speaker 2: And then this one from Jesse Rodgers, I think is

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Speaker 3: We weren't seeing in season changes that frequently.

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Speaker 1: What comes next? The GM may fire himself. So the

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: That's how it works, That's what these guys do. So

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Speaker 2: Let's do a show a hands for a poll to

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Speaker 2: think that Michael Lias should be running the Baltimore Orioles

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Speaker 1: Here's my question. I want to know if he can

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Speaker 1: He's been the guy who could build a team in Houston.

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Speaker 1: He was the prospect we'll be get the prospects, we'll

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Speaker 1: So can he finish it off? I don't know that

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Speaker 2: You know how Dombrowski sometimes is that guy like you

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Speaker 1: No, you need the guy who will trade the prospects

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: Dombrowski say whatever you want about him. He gets his

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Speaker 2: Yeah, especially if you're confident in your ability to find

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Speaker 2: But they're very self aware of where their teams are

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Speaker 3: He was Matt Carpenter.

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Speaker 2: Continuing the storyline here for a couple of minutes until

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Speaker 2: He was feeling it and he was emotional. I think

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Speaker 3: So he was holding back tears talking.

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Speaker 3: I wish I was in the clubhouse for that. AJ.

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Speaker 1: He pitched my thing about Brandon hythe he was good

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Speaker 1: He didn't change to what he was doing. He didn't

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Speaker 1: change the way he went about it. He was doing

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Speaker 1: the same stuff right. Something changed.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what.

436
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Speaker 1: The pictures aren't pitching as good, the hitters aren't hitting

437
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Speaker 1: as good, whatever that is. And he can say, oh,

438
00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,160
Speaker 1: you need a new message. But honestly, Chris, you may

439
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Speaker 1: disagree with me, but what message does the does the

440
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Speaker 1: manager really give you? Other than you know, you need

441
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Speaker 1: a guy put you in the right position and went

442
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Speaker 1: Other than that, managers are they're just there. They're communicators,

443
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Speaker 1: are Brandon Hyde has always been known as a good communicator.

444
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Speaker 4: You want to know, you want to know what kind

445
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Speaker 4: of managing job he did. Go down the list of

446
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Speaker 4: all the play who were interviewed about him after he

447
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 4: got fired, how they reacted. Everybody can say your placard's like, oh,

448
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 4: we didn't play good enough. The emotion and the way

449
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 4: they feel about the guy shows the connection that he

450
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,280
Speaker 4: made with the players seems like it was a plus

451
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Speaker 4: to me. Maybe he just didn't quite have the players

452
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Speaker 4: to complete the games.

453
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Speaker 2: We've got a lot of get to get to later,

454
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Speaker 2: including the Jose Alvarado suspension and the Dodgers cutting bait

455
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Speaker 2: with another veteran. All that we'll get to, but we're

456
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Speaker 2: gonna sneak this one in for some life support for

457
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Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Pirates.

458
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Speaker 3: They've got this epic streak.

459
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:41,200
Speaker 2: Rolling on run scored twenty two straight games scoring four

460
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 2: runs or less. This was from a couple of days

461
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Speaker 2: ago the league. This was from Cody Duncan, who covers

462
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Speaker 2: the team. The league is one hundred and forty nine

463
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,160
Speaker 2: years old. This team has a chance to be infamous

464
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Speaker 2: in a stand in baseball history. They still have not

465
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Speaker 2: gotten there. Do we know what the record is? That

466
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Speaker 2: he said, the all time record? What the record is?

467
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,679
Speaker 2: Off the top of my head. But now they're at

468
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Speaker 2: what twenty four?

469
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Speaker 4: Yep?

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Speaker 1: Oh way, So this is funny. My wife says to me.

471
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Speaker 1: She goes, oh, Paul Skeens punched out Harper well like

472
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Speaker 1: three times yesterday. And I go, yeah, they got two

473
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Speaker 1: hits and got shut out and lost one nothing. I go,

474
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Speaker 1: that sums it up for the Pirates. I mean, Skeens

475
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 1: goes out there and just shoves right and destroys the

476
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 1: pirates gives up what three hits, one run and they lose.

477
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Speaker 1: I mean, it was ridiculous.

478
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Speaker 2: They're like what three and six or seven or something

479
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Speaker 2: like that in his starts.

480
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but they haven't scored more than two runs I

481
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Speaker 1: don't think in any of them or it's like crazy,

482
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Speaker 1: but it's not a lot. I don't know exactly what

483
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Speaker 1: the number is, but they haven't scored a lot.

484
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Speaker 4: Yep, they have not scored a lot. Just in general

485
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Speaker 4: as that.

486
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Speaker 1: I mean, Skins went eight innings yesterday with three hits,

487
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Speaker 1: one run, nine punches, l L.

488
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Speaker 4: And they called it a complete game his first career.

489
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Speaker 1: Wait game, Well, I mean it is because they only

490
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Speaker 1: went eight innings.

491
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Speaker 4: I get it, I get it.

492
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Speaker 3: But he went as far as he could go.

493
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Speaker 4: Welcome to the next your life, Wait wait until yep,

494
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Speaker 4: wait for the next four congratulations And they're not either.

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Speaker 1: They're going to have to treat them, aren't they. They're

496
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Speaker 1: going to have to treat them, aren't they.

497
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Speaker 4: I wish we had more time because I wanted to

498
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Speaker 4: ask him about what the prognosticators are saying. They're about

499
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Speaker 4: to get hot. The Orioles are unlucky. I wanted. I

500
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,439
Speaker 4: wanted to but it goes all the things he said

501
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,199
Speaker 4: go into my theory that guys who are able to

502
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Speaker 4: make contact with a lot of balls don't necessarily walk

503
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Speaker 4: a lot, but can hit the ball hard, don't necessarily

504
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Speaker 4: get the results, but it makes those makes those numbers

505
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Speaker 4: go up like oh, it's super unlucky, like bat it

506
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Speaker 4: on batted balls in play, like you have to wait

507
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Speaker 4: to get your ball in the zone to do damage.

508
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Speaker 2: Expected stats in a vacuum are actual stats, but in

509
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 2: real life they're expected stats, especially when they are short term. Right,

510
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 2: this isn't over years and years of time. So just

511
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 2: saying oh, someone's got great process and expected stats, like

512
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Speaker 2: that's good. There's some good indicators there, but they're still

513
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,719
Speaker 2: losing the games. There's somebody I don't remember who it

514
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 2: is in the baseball world who says like, yeah, if

515
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Speaker 2: we're doing everything in a vacuum, no one's alive in

516
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Speaker 2: a vacuum. It's not real life. You're making fun of it,

517
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Speaker 2: but it's true, you know, Like I'm with you here.

518
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Speaker 2: The sarcasm is, Hey, your computer systems talking about how

519
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 2: your players should be playing better than they are based

520
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 2: on how they're hitting the baseball and making contact with

521
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Speaker 2: it doesn't mean it's working.

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Speaker 4: Scott.

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Speaker 3: Let's sizzle.

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Speaker 2: Jose Alvarado done for eighty games, so I'll return late

534
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Speaker 2: in the season.

535
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Speaker 3: But wait, there's more.

536
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Speaker 2: He's not eligible for the postseason performance enhancing drugs trt

537
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Speaker 2: ak exogenis testosterone not allowed in Major League Baseball. Not

538
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Speaker 2: eligible for the playoffs after he returns from the eighty

539
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Speaker 2: game suspension. Kratz, this is a really big deal reliever

540
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Speaker 2: for the Phillies. A Phillies team that has a very

541
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 2: clear blemish their bullpen, and now he's gone for a while.

542
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 2: How pissed off is Philly right now? You're close enough.

543
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 4: Easily, I mean so pissed. It happened over the weekend,

544
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 4: so it's more of like stuff smattering in. I haven't

545
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 4: listened to talk radio this you know today, but definitely pissed.

546
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 4: You feel as a fan, people feel like they feel

547
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Speaker 4: like this guy, well, you know, maybe he was just

548
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 4: trying to lose weight. Maybe he was just trying to Like,

549
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 4: as an outsider, you look at it and you go,

550
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 4: this guy cheated. This guy cheated. He knew what he

551
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Speaker 4: was doing. He was kind of at the end of

552
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Speaker 4: his contract. He's not a free agent. He had a

553
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 4: team option that I think it was for like nine

554
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 4: million dollars. He was their closer. He was the guy

555
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 4: who since spring training, I think he had like six

556
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Speaker 4: or seven innings with like twenty punchouts. He has been awesome.

557
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 4: He's been elite. He's always been elite when he throws strikes,

558
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 4: and he's been doing that in a shaky bullpen that

559
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 4: needed him him. Now they really need him. And I

560
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 4: love the rule that you can't play in the postseason

561
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 4: if you test positive.

562
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Speaker 1: Why are we defending this? It's all I want to know. What. Okay,

563
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: Everyone's like, oh, he was he's overweight. So you went

564
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: on a weight loss drug. Don't we have like a

565
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 1: million trainers in a million, doctors in a million of

566
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: everything that you can get help with all this stuff.

567
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: But that's what I understand. Like there's people like, oh,

568
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 1: he's just he's trying to lose weight. So doesn't this

569
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: also build lean muscle and also make you stronger.

570
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 4: Yes?

571
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: So, And and by the way, you can if you're

572
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 1: having that much trouble, I'm sure you can go to

573
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Speaker 1: the MLB and say, look, I need to get on

574
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: ozebic or whatever everyone out in Majarro or whatever it

575
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: is that everyone takes to lose all the weight, Like,

576
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: come on, Like, I just don't understand why. You know, oh,

577
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 1: we found and the Phillies found out about this, Like

578
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: was it two weeks ago? Three weeks ago, so they

579
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: knew about this. Like this whole thing to me is

580
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: just crazy that people are now defending like, oh, well,

581
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: you know he did it because he was overweight. I

582
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 1: don't care. If there's a lot of overweight guys I

583
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: played with. They didn't take steroids lose weak ass. What

584
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: they did, they ran, They got themselves in shape, they

585
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 1: ate better, they went keto, whatever it takes. I don't

586
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: know it just this is this to me is just

587
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 1: you know it just it's it sucks. Just you can

588
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 1: get what you want. Every whatever you want to stick

589
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: in your body, you can get it checked a million

590
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: times over.

591
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 4: And Major League Baseball allows guys to get it checked.

592
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 4: They you can send them what you're taking and they'll say, yes, cleared,

593
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 4: even if it is not on the list of approved supplements.

594
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 4: Because for Major League Baseball players it's I forget what

595
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 4: it is. The it's it's an acronym. You know, it's

596
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 4: three letters. But it's approved and it's on the approved

597
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 4: list for Major League Baseball. NF, Thank you. NSF certified

598
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 4: things are just what they allow. If you get something

599
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 4: that's not NSF, you can take a sample of it,

600
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Speaker 4: send it to the joint program that Major League Baseball

601
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 4: has the Union. They will test it and they say

602
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 4: that bottle that you got has nothing in it, It

603
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 4: has nothing banned in it. So you can do that.

604
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 4: But here's the thing that I think Major League Baseball

605
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 4: maybe hasn't educated enough, or maybe I'm totally wrong on this.

606
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 4: The last, the last, Ah, let's go nine guys that

607
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 4: have tested positive for something. Gregory Santos, Hector Santiago, Ramon Lereano,

608
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Speaker 4: Pedro Severino, J. C. Mahea, Fernando Tatis, Jacemhee again, Noel

609
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Speaker 4: Vi Marte, Elvis Martinez, Jackson, Profar Jose Alvarado. Are we

610
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Speaker 4: missing something that Latin players are not getting enough information

611
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 4: or are we not giving them enough because as a

612
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 4: players Association and Major League Baseball, we need to make

613
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Speaker 4: sure that it's not just one group of players that

614
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Speaker 4: are testing positive.

615
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I would love to talk to a

616
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Speaker 2: player about this at some point with the education system, like, Hey,

617
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 2: what's going on here that we're missing the boat?

618
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Speaker 3: Right? Because what can a team do? Okay, what can

619
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Speaker 3: a team do? All you can do?

620
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Speaker 2: You guys, tell me right when you're because you both

621
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Speaker 2: played obviously post testing, right when the testing era began.

622
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Speaker 3: Tell me what the process was like.

623
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Speaker 2: Teams telling you in spring training about what you should

624
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Speaker 2: and shouldn't do, Teams giving you as many resources as

625
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 2: possible during that time period and making sure that you

626
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Speaker 2: know tell me if this is right or wrong. This

627
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: is the top part of the conversation for me. Do

628
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Speaker 2: you have every resource a management imaginable?

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Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, you have guys who are disposal. Yes, you

630
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Speaker 1: have guys that speak Spanish, guys that speak English. They

631
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Speaker 1: come in and do a whole thing. It's it's kind

632
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Speaker 1: of it's like Article twenty one. It's it's the same

633
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Speaker 1: thing like with the gambling. They come in and they

634
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Speaker 1: say they have meeting after meeting and say in your strength, coach,

635
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Speaker 1: your trainers and everybody. They literally say, do not take

636
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Speaker 1: anything unless we approve it. Don't take anything unless they

637
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Speaker 1: see it repeatedly. So, I don't you know there's there

638
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: shouldn't be an excuse on this don't take anything.

639
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Speaker 4: I think it's I think it's the fact that Alvarado

640
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Speaker 4: and Profar are on teams that we're supposed to go

641
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Speaker 4: to the playoffs and now are not eligible to play

642
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Speaker 4: in the playoffs. I think major lely based that rule

643
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Speaker 4: that was agreed upon is a good rule because now

644
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Speaker 4: teams need to take it into their own.

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Speaker 2: Hand Yuh, Crat, we lost it for a sec. Oh,

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Speaker 2: we'll get to gym in a sec. Sorry, sorry, JB.

647
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Speaker 2: You got a little hiccup there with our with our process.

648
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Speaker 2: Crats just disappeared. Uh yeah, we got a glitch from

649
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 2: our system, all right, AJ and me for a minute, here.

650
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Speaker 3: I want to spend this forward.

651
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 2: Jose Alvarado is not going to be a factor for

652
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 2: this team for the majority of the year and for

653
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 2: the playoffs. You can't really make significant trades right now.

654
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 2: The Phillies are in a battle for of course, the

655
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 2: division and a wild card. That's not going to be

656
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 2: easy either. They've got a lot of good pieces in

657
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 2: place with their starting rotation and their lineup. Their bullpen

658
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 2: was already a problem. The Cardinals are good. You might

659
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 2: not be getting Ryan Helsley no matter what. The Orioles

660
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 2: might not trade away Felix Batista, like Jason lockamfora was

661
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 2: telling us because Michael Lias is worried about.

662
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 3: His own job.

663
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,959
Speaker 2: There will be arms available at the trade deadline. There

664
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Speaker 2: always are. Aj We are more than two months away

665
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 2: from the trade deadline. There's not that much you can

666
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 2: do in the meantime. Could this be a devastating blow

667
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 2: to the Phillies now? Are they going to be a

668
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 2: bad team?

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Speaker 1: No?

670
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 2: But will they pick up multiple extra losses by not

671
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Speaker 2: having their guy who throws super super hard with his sinkers?

672
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Speaker 4: Right?

673
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Speaker 2: And now we might I know reason why entering his

674
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 2: free agent year. Nonetheless, and this caused a problem for

675
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Speaker 2: the Phillies in the late stages of games.

676
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean this is definitely a problem for him

677
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: because yes, their major weakness right now is there bullpen.

678
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: Can they fix this yes, But the problem is everyone's

679
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: going to be looking for bullpen arms. What's the number?

680
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: Usually the number one in number one A things power

681
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: bats and bullpen arms. Every team is looking for power

682
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: and bullpen arms, so every team gets involved in Now

683
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: with the wild cards and more teams are involved, so

684
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: other teams are gonna try this and try that and

685
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Speaker 1: try this. It used to be you know, oh, there's

686
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: only a few teams available that are buying and there's

687
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Speaker 1: more sellers. Well now there seems like there's more buyers

688
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: than sellers, so every little arm is going to be

689
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Speaker 1: more valuable. So do I think this hurts Yeah? Is

690
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: it the end all be all? No, Because let's be honest,

691
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: Alvorado could also be not great at times also, So

692
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: I think it hurts them a lot, But I don't

693
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: think it's gonna cost them a playoff spot because they're

694
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: basically they're really built on their starting pitching and their

695
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: offense and hitting home runs, so they have to do

696
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: that and then they try to figure out the bullpen.

697
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: That's what they've done for the last few years in.

698
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Speaker 4: A position too. Because it's not Scott had said it

699
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 4: was his free agent year, it's technically not his free

700
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 4: agent year. The Phillies have an option for twenty six.

701
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 4: It's a nine million dollar option. Now you sit there

702
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 4: as an organization after the season, whatever you do in

703
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 4: the postseason, you go, do we pay nine million dollars

704
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 4: for a guy that we're not one hundred percent sure

705
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 4: is clean? Because that's always out there. Now you don't

706
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 4: know if somebody is clean. I asked somebody with the

707
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 4: Phillies organization if they were surprised. They said absolutely, They said,

708
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 4: this guy is not one of those guys. So now,

709
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 4: as an organization, do you put nine million dollars into

710
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 4: him as a closer? Him? Him for nine million dollars.

711
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 4: Hodiamorado for nine million dollars four days ago was a lock,

712
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 4: sure thing, no doubt. You're gonna not let him go

713
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 4: to free agency? Like has he been doing? It? Is this?

714
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 4: You know what's given him his velocity his entire career,

715
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,280
Speaker 4: Like he's he's been the same picture his entire career,

716
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 4: it's it's cheese balls and it's going every direction.

717
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, first of all, how can he not be to

718
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: one of those guys, he's one of those guys. He

719
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: just got popped. Don't give me he's not one of them. Like,

720
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: you can't say he's not one of these guys.

721
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 4: He's got popped.

722
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: Like everyone said, Oh, Nelson Cruz, I played with him.

723
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: He wasn't one of those guys. Guess what he got popped. Right,

724
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: So if you get popped, you're that guy.

725
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.

726
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: If you get popped, you're that guy.

727
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Speaker 4: Yep.

728
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it puts a stand on your entire career. There's

729
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 2: no doubt about that, right. I don't think we're going

730
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 2: to see guys get voted into the Hall of Fame

731
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: in the Chesting era. Ever, you shouldn't be last part here, Krats.

732
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Speaker 2: You watch more Phillies games than AJ and I think.

733
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 2: So here's the bullpen. Tell me what you like, what

734
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 2: you don't like, and if they'll be okay getting to

735
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 2: the trade deadline, and then even at the trade deadline,

736
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 2: if they don't win, you know, one of the one

737
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 2: or two coveted pieces, if they're even available at that.

738
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Speaker 4: Point, they'll be okay, because of one step. No team

739
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 4: has used their bullpen less than the Philadelphia Philly So

740
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 4: it's like it's like having a bad eight and nine

741
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 4: hitter and somehow you're just like they just don't get

742
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 4: as many at bats as everybody else, Like you might

743
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 4: be able to hide it because they're starting rotation. Mickabel

744
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 4: we're not even talking about that, but broke a tie

745
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 4: to franchise record for strikeouts in his first outing. Dudes

746
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 4: in their starting rotation go long. So they'll be able

747
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 4: to hold that starting rotation even with Nola out right now,

748
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 4: we'll be able to kind of be the crutch that

749
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 4: the bullpen can lean on until guys like Jordan Romano,

750
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 4: who are doing much better now from the start, they're

751
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 4: going to be able to hold them up. To me,

752
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 4: the three guys are at the top there. Romano has

753
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 4: to keep doing what he's doing. Strom is an all star. Kirkering,

754
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 4: he's got to prove it this year. To me, he's

755
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 4: got to prove it that he's young enough in his

756
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 4: career that he has to continue to be able to

757
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 4: throw one his slider first strike and two a fastball

758
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 4: that can get outs in the zone because not every

759
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 4: time our dude's going to be up there that are

760
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 4: going to swing and miss at a slider off the

761
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 4: plate because they see it. Now, they've seen it. He's

762
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 4: in the big leagues for long enough that guys are

763
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 4: starting to make the adjustment laying off the one away

764
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 4: and they've been able to hammer the one in the zone.

765
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Speaker 4: So will they be able to do it? Yes? Will

766
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 4: Dombrowski go and get a bullpen piece? Yes? Is he

767
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 4: going to leverage the minor league system for it? Yes,

768
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 4: because that's what he's done. So yes, I think they'll

769
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 4: be fine because of that starting rotation.

770
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Speaker 2: Okay, let us know any thoughts in the comments section

771
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 2: if you're checking this out after the fact. Coming up next,

772
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 2: Front Office Unfiltered, Perfect Time for It will go over

773
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 2: the Albarado suspension, Brandon Hyde getting let go by the Orioles,

774
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Speaker 2: and more.

775
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Speaker 5: You've played with some talented teams before you made the

776
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 5: postseason with the White Sox.

777
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 4: Obviously.

778
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 5: Last year's Potter's team ninety three wins took the Dodgers

779
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 5: to five games. This team definitely seems to be one

780
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 5: of those again to super talented. Everything's clicking. How does

781
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 5: this team kind of stack up for you with some

782
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 5: of the other teams you've been on.

783
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think this is the most fundamental

784
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 6: and clean baseball I've consistently seen.

785
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 4: You know.

786
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Speaker 6: Last year's team obviously was great, we were, especially the

787
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 6: second half, but just I mean, overall, it really feels

788
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 6: like we very rarely shoot ourselves in the foot, and

789
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 6: there's honestly a lot of games to be won that way.

790
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 3: You know, Baseball is one of.

791
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Speaker 6: Those games where we watch it it looks, you know,

792
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 6: especially at a high level, we make it look easy,

793
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 6: but you know, it's still a very challenging game, and

794
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 6: one little.

795
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 3: Mistake can lead to two three runs.

796
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 6: So you know, the fact that for the most part

797
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 6: we're able to limit that, I think that's one of

798
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,439
Speaker 6: the things that really one of the superpowers.

799
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Speaker 3: Of this team for sure.

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Speaker 2: That's Dylan Ceas on Friar Territory, Kyle Glazer running the interview.

801
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 2: If you want to check that out, it is available

802
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 2: now wherever you get your pods. Just type in Friar

803
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 2: fr Iar Territory and Kyle's on with my Cameron often

804
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 2: also Heath Bell. Kyle does an awesome job. He is

805
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 2: super dialed in on the Padres. It's one of our

806
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 2: newest shows. Give it a look. AJ you followed Dylan

807
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 2: Cees for a while. He looks like he's got the

808
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 2: San Diego look going a little bit more now, little

809
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 2: a little more hair.

810
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 3: It's got a little more wave to it.

811
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 2: Right, it's maybe maybe some from some beach time, like

812
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 2: some sea salt, got more beard action going.

813
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 3: Dylan CEC's growing up.

814
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 2: You know, he used to have the baby face going

815
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 2: when he was first with the socks, Right.

816
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Speaker 1: I mean it's hard not to enjoy playing in San Diego. Right, Yeah,

817
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: that's one of those places where most you don't really

818
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: hear too many people go there and say, man, I

819
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: really hated my time in San Diego. And they might

820
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 1: not have played very well, but they usually are usually

821
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: think they have a pretty good time in San Diego city,

822
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: the beach, the weather, all that. So yeah, he's enjoying

823
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: his time and we'll see where he ends up next year.

824
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 2: What's the beef, Well, there was a ton of beef

825
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 2: in the Bronx this weekend. I mean that was fun.

826
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 2: That was good, clean mid season fun. Yankee fans all

827
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 2: over won Soto Yankees win this series. They're playing good ball.

828
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 2: Saturday's game was a one run contest, and it was

829
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Speaker 2: really good. Right, the other two weren't as close. Saturday

830
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 2: was really good. That was just a good ball game

831
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Speaker 2: that I watched more of that one than the other two.

832
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 2: But AJ thoughts on the reception for Sodo, and really,

833
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 2: I don't want to overlook the fact that Mets Yankees.

834
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 2: I feel like it's elevating now.

835
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Speaker 1: The reaction to Soda was fine, kind of what we

836
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: thought was gonna happen. I love that they turned their

837
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: back on him. I thought that was kind of cool. Actually,

838
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: it almost was like better than them booing him, because

839
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 1: everyone expected, oh, they're gonna boom him, They're gonna boom

840
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: and they were just like, yeah, we don't care enough

841
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: about you to give you a reaction either way. I

842
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: thought that was awesome. You know what was weird to

843
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: me and I and I really watched the game last night.

844
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 1: He doesn't look like the same player, Like, where's the eddie?

845
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: Press kept saying it last night, like where's the shuffle?

846
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: Where's all this stuff? He's not doing that stuff anymore.

847
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: Is there something different about one Soda now that he's signed,

848
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: because that was like his thing, right, like, oh, he shuffles,

849
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: he doesn't care who's pitching, and last night he didn't

850
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: do it. And even Eddie pres on the ESPN was

851
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: said it a couple of times like this is where

852
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: he would normally do the Sodo shuffle, and he did it.

853
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 1: So I don't know, did something changed and did the

854
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: Yankee fans get to him that much? He didn't play

855
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: the way he normally has played for the past, you know,

856
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: seven years. I don't know. It was weird to me,

857
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: but you know, what, great job Yankee fans, and it

858
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: was just an awesome series, uh, from both sides in

859
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,439
Speaker 1: the way both teams played one other.

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Speaker 2: Note krats before you jump in. I didn't read the

861
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Speaker 2: article yet, but I'm trying to remember who it was.

862
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 2: Maybe Petriello. I don't want to call someone's random name

863
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 2: out there, but you know, read what you want into

864
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,720
Speaker 2: bats sped. The big power hitters have significant bat speed,

865
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 2: and it's not about like leading the pack necessarily in

866
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 2: that category, but if you do track a guy from

867
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 2: year to year and you see a difference, it's.

868
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 3: Worth an article.

869
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 2: So apparently he's got one of the biggest dips in

870
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 2: bat speed from last year to this year. He should

871
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 2: be in the prime of his career, So I don't know.

872
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 2: I wonder if there's something there.

873
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm glad it didn't have bat speed stuff,

874
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 4: because I would have never gotten a chance all that

875
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 4: bat speed. You know, if it changes from year to year,

876
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 4: like you go out and perform. He's not hitting to

877
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 4: his potential yet, I'm going to go out on a

878
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 4: limb bat speed, no bat speed, park adjusted whatever. Wan

879
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 4: Soon's going to be fine. This is a dude who

880
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 4: has He's had second halfs in seasons where his on

881
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,720
Speaker 4: base percentage is over five hundred. He's going to be fine.

882
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 4: I think his OPS is over eight hundred. Still, I

883
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 4: personally agree with what he did. I love the fact

884
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 4: that they were booing him in his first at bat

885
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 4: and he took his hat off. He knows they loved

886
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 4: him there. He knows they loved him. He knows probably

887
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 4: seventy percent of the people who are booing were trolling

888
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 4: him and we're cheering him last year in the playoffs

889
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 4: into the World Series. He knows what he meant to

890
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 4: those fans. But I also thought it was I love

891
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 4: the turned it back to him. That's like a high

892
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 4: school basketball. You know, they're they're announcing the other team,

893
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 4: and like everybody puts up there, puts up their newspapers

894
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 4: to act like they don't see him or hear them,

895
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 4: or they turned their back to him. I loved all

896
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 4: of it, and I thought they were all good games.

897
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 4: Even last night's game was close until Belly hit the dinger.

898
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 3: True true, Yeah.

899
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 2: And Belly's on fire, by the way, which is great

900
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 2: news for the Yankees. Right, you can kind of blend

901
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 2: in a little bit more, as crazy as it sounds,

902
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 2: with the Yanks. You know, I feel like Bellinger's getting

903
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 2: less attention this year than you got in his Cubs years,

904
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 2: maybe because he was the guy they were looking up

905
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 2: to as the guy to carry them out of offensive slumps.

906
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 3: AJ and here you're no Aaron Judge.

907
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 2: I mean, you just do your thing, man, And he's

908
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 2: doing his thing right. The four to two game obviously

909
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 2: extended once Belly hit that grand Slam and made it

910
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 2: a two. Max Freed, who has been maybe the best

911
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,479
Speaker 2: signing of the off season, looked like his cy young

912
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 2: self again. So what do you think of Belly's starting

913
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 2: to turn it on?

914
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: Good for him? You know what, the best part of

915
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: that was they were talking about. After Judge struck out.

916
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, the Yankees are going to waste an opportunity.

917
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: Whack first pitch, Belly goes deep Grand Slam. So it's listen,

918
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: good for Cody. I've always like Cody. I think he's

919
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 1: he's you know, he's been really good, and he's been

920
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: you know, very average at times. But when this guy's right,

921
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: he's as good as it's fun to watch. He swings hard,

922
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: he can play a great center field, he can play

923
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 1: a great first base, and you know what, maybe going

924
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: to a place where he's not doesn't have to be

925
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: quote the man was a good thing for him. Look

926
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 1: at Goldschmith, right, gold Schmith's having a bounce back here

927
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: because he's not the man in Saint Louis. They're like,

928
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 1: you got to drive in the runs, you got to

929
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: get all the big hits. Guess what if they have

930
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: a guy named Aaron Judge, it's there for that. So

931
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: it's a nice place, not necessarily to hide, but you

932
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 1: don't have the spotlight all on you at the time.

933
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yet, Belly has played in big markets, so it's

934
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 2: not like he's playing here and doesn't know how to

935
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: handle a big Chicago or LA crowd. And I know

936
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 2: New York's different, but I mean he's played in some

937
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 2: big markets for some very competitive teams. Any streaky, it's

938
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 2: one of the streakier players in the sport, right. You've

939
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 2: seen him in his prime be an MVP and then

940
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,240
Speaker 2: fall off the map. And yeah, he's had some injuries

941
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 2: too that probably were in the way of that. But

942
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 2: the Yankees are fine. They're in a good spot. I

943
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 2: just thought that was a really fun series to follow

944
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 2: over the weekend. Yankee fans were doing their thing, but

945
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 2: no one did anything too stupid, so as far as

946
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 2: I know, so well played by both sides there.

947
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 3: All right, we'll swing back.

948
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 2: We have a lot to get to with better than

949
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 2: box scores from other things we missed from the weekend.

950
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 2: If you're a card collector or you'd like to get

951
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 2: into card collecting, may I suggest Arena Club and Slab packs,

952
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 2: which means that you can rip the packs digitally and

953
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 2: of course get the card that you want.

954
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 3: It's also the most trusted.

955
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 2: Name in the game, and I would rather rip packs

956
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 2: these days on my phone than sit next to you

957
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 2: and have you grabbing one of my physical packs if

958
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 2: I was grabbing.

959
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,439
Speaker 1: One, Yeah, you don't need me grabbing your packs, because

960
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 1: last time you grabbed one, it ended up like this card.

961
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: So let's not have that. And that's why Arena Club

962
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: is great. They send them to you in these fancy

963
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: protectors like the Scout Brown card that we have here,

964
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: and they'll come safe. They're already graded. Or you could

965
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: do like I do and just leave my cards in

966
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: the showroom and never actually see them physically. Yeah, but

967
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: they're safe, protected, and if I want to sell them,

968
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: I can't.

969
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 3: Buy sell trade.

970
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 2: They offer full transparency, showing every card in the slab

971
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 2: pack with the likelihood of pulling each one, so you

972
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 2: know exactly what's available before you buy. Get twenty percent

973
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 2: off your first slab pack or card purchase by going

974
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,240
Speaker 2: to Arena club dot com, slash foul and use code foul.

975
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,240
Speaker 3: Hey, Hey, let's slap.

976
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 2: I want to give love for the last two minutes

977
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 2: of the show, and then YouTube fan we're gonna stay on,

978
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 2: but for the last two minutes here for everyone to

979
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 2: the Minnesota Twins. The wind streak was snapped yesterday by

980
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 2: Freddy Pralte and the Brewers, but a j that was

981
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 2: a hell of a run just now by Rocco Baldelli,

982
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 2: do I think, save his job and saved the season

983
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,959
Speaker 2: for the Twins early on. Right, This comes in May

984
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 2: after what was a pretty bad April.

985
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: And let's not forget it, got right back in the

986
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: division race. But they've been in without Korea and buckson

987
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 1: going down. So listen, They're pitching is what has been unbelievable.

988
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: They're pitching has been so good, especially they're starting pitching

989
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: in their bullpen. Yeah, listen, great run by the Twins.

990
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: Let's see if they can keep this up, because, like

991
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: we just talked about, this is a tough, tough division

992
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: with where they're at now.

993
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 4: Saved this job, save this job other managers were going down.

994
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:05,720
Speaker 4: You win double digit games in a row, Rocos Rocos safe.

995
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 4: Now they have to make the playoffs and actually make

996
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 4: a dent in the playoffs. Maybe they can do it

997
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 4: with pitching. Anything's possible.

998
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 2: If they're in contention. I would love to see them

999
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:18,280
Speaker 2: make a trade.

1000
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 4: Now, I'll stop. They won't do that. Don't come on,

1001
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:22,720
Speaker 4: don't wish on rainbows.

1002
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 2: I would love to wish on a rainbow and see

1003
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 2: them make a trade. Their fan base deserves it. We

1004
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 2: haven't heard any news about the sale process. It sounds

1005
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 2: like that's going to still take a while. Twins fans

1006
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 2: deserve it in my mind.

1007
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 3: All right, have tef bam.

1008
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 2: We're back for the final three minutes here on YouTube,

1009
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 2: and then we'll send you to Dodgers' territory. I'm sure

1010
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 2: they'll spend a lot of time talking about how Chris

1011
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 2: Taylor was cut by the team after Austin Barnes was cut.

1012
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 2: I think those were two of the longest tenured on

1013
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 2: the ball club. Obviously Kershaw's been there longer, but they

1014
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 2: were up there in terms of longest tenured players. So

1015
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 2: I'm sure they'll give that some love. Dodgers fans that

1016
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 2: follow that show consistently have been saying the Classic send

1017
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 2: Chris Taylor to the moon line for a while, and

1018
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 2: in fairness, it was time. They've got too much depth

1019
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 2: and too many other good players, you know. I mean,

1020
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 2: Kim for example, deserves to be on the big league roster.

1021
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 2: He's looked great. He looks exactly what you want aj

1022
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 2: from a non everyday player. Dude's gonna make contact, play

1023
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 2: good defense, run the base as well. Like that's a

1024
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 2: winning player in my mind for the Dodgers, that was

1025
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 2: a smart pick up, at least in terms of what

1026
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 2: it looks like right now.

1027
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: Chris Taylor had thirty five at bats, thirty five plate appearances,

1028
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: and we're almost into June. He was big, I don't know.

1029
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, he served the Dodgers really well for

1030
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: a long time. But it happens to everybody. It was

1031
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 1: just kind of time, like you said, and yeah, you can't.

1032
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 1: You can't have a player that only has thirty five

1033
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: played appearances, especially on the team like the Dodgers that

1034
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 1: move their guys around and like to use utility guys

1035
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: so much. So to me, it sucks for Chris, But listen,

1036
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: they paid him a lot of money and he's had

1037
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: a nice career and he might get picked up by

1038
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: somebody and figure it out again. But you know, thirty

1039
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: five played appearances just is enough at this point in

1040
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: the year.

1041
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had a good run with LA for a

1042
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 2: long time and was a guy that, if you read

1043
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 2: his story, looked like he was going to be out

1044
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 2: of the league, and then his swing change completely resurrected

1045
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 2: his career, made him a lot of money, got him

1046
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 2: a lot of success, Kratz.

1047
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 3: That's what he got.

1048
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 4: I wore a J's hat for him. He probably doesn't.

1049
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 4: You probably don't even have one of these.

1050
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I don't know if I have

1051
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: anything white sox honest, Jelly.

1052
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 3: I got a couple of much a little bit.

1053
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 4: I like that.

1054
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 3: I like the color.

1055
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: It's good. It's good.

1056
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 4: It's a different gray. I like the different gray.

1057
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, they might want to even call it that different gray.

1058
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 2: Two promos for you, because after Dodgers Territory is Baseball America,

1059
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 2: Hot Sheet will have a panel of four for the

1060
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 2: show today, a lot to discuss, including other pitchers who

1061
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:58,240
Speaker 2: could be called up soon. And then after Hot Sheet,

1062
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,720
Speaker 2: Trevor May takes over may Day on the FT Network

1063
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 2: for the first hour than on his channel for the

1064
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 2: second hour. Trevor's really good running point, almost like a

1065
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 2: late night show with all the little gadgets that he's

1066
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 2: got in his new studio. So check that one out

1067
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 2: as well. He had a really good episode. What was

1068
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 2: it last week? I think it only was when Adam

1069
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 2: Outavino was on and he was talking about actual awkwardness

1070
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 2: when he was with the team and observing, you know,

1071
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 2: Raphael Devers against the Red Sox and Devers just feeling

1072
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 2: like the respect level wasn't there. It's better to hear

1073
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 2: it from someone who was actually around it. It just

1074
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 2: makes more sense. So anyway, check out those shows. Great

1075
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 2: one today, this one flew by. See y'all tomorrow.

1076
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 3: Actually no, not AJ, right, No, I won't be here tomorrow.

1077
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:47,760
Speaker 2: Okay, AJ, We will see you Wednesday, Todd Father Tuesday,

1078
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 2: hopefully not.

1079
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 3: Actually you're right, hopefully not. That is true. Good luck

1080
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,240
Speaker 3: to Austin in his game in States.

1081
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 1: Is it called yeah, final four?

1082
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 3: Final four? Good luck in the final or they win tomorrow.

1083
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,280
Speaker 1: They play Wednesday for the state championship.

1084
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 2: So otherwise we'll hopefully see a Ja Thursday. We'll see

1085
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 2: Todd Father tomorrow with krats I e

1086
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 6: H.