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Speaker 1: So Stafford, Joe Flacco, Aaron Rodgers, the old guys are

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Speaker 1: highly productive. I don't I don't think Aaron's the problem. Actually,

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Speaker 1: his passer rating is like one o four, one o

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Speaker 1: five with Pittsburgh Mike Sando, senior NFL writer for the

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Speaker 1: Athletic Selector Pro Football Hall of Fame, there is. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's an interesting thing going on between the old guys

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Speaker 1: flourishing Mic and the Darnolds and the Bakers sort of

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Speaker 1: getting a reboot with clever offensive coordinators. I SA a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, I saw this where there were

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Speaker 1: fifteen quarterbacks with passer rating over one hundred and it

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Speaker 1: was six two years ago. Is some of it? Maybe

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Speaker 1: it's zone defense across the league, so it's it's kind

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Speaker 1: of throw to a spot. I mean the quarterback play

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Speaker 1: when I watched Flacco do that last night, and Aaron's

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Speaker 1: played well. It does feel like the Golden Eraro of

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Speaker 1: quarterback play. Is there a reason.

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Speaker 3: Why I do think it's easier to play the position, Colin,

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Speaker 3: But you know, those guys who have been around a

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Speaker 3: long time usually get rid of the ball. And when

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Speaker 3: we're talking about the worst quarterbacking in the league this year,

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Speaker 3: it's Justin Field's taking nine sacks, not because his protection

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Speaker 3: is terrible, because he doesn't know where to go at

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Speaker 3: the ball. And so these guys, if you look at

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Speaker 3: Rogers this year, quickest time to throw for him in

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Speaker 3: his whole career. He's getting it out. Also, we know,

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Speaker 3: just bigger picture, these guys don't get hit like they

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Speaker 4: You know, I think back in the day some of

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Speaker 3: You know, Kenny Stabler shows up late to the game,

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Speaker 4: You know, he.

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Speaker 3: Has a terrible first half, and then he throws up

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Speaker 3: at halftime that's actually happened, and then goes out and

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Speaker 3: has a big second half. You can't play it to longevity.

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Speaker 3: Those guys lived and played and say it was an

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Speaker 3: extreme example in the Hall of Famer. But now these

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Speaker 3: guys are the best rest, the best travel. You know,

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Speaker 3: they know how to take care of their body, and

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Speaker 3: the rules are all set up. You never see him

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Speaker 3: get ear hold, you know. So it's really a great

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Speaker 3: setup for these guys to play when they're older. What

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Speaker 3: happened though the last few years is but a lot

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Speaker 1: You know, I said this generally, if the average NFL

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Speaker 1: franchise quarterback career is fifteen years, I always feel like

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Speaker 1: mid second chapter, I got a good read on you

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Speaker 1: for years. I said, Dak is Kirk Cousins with better mobility.

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Speaker 1: But Kirk never carried this kind of roster, and Dallas

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Speaker 1: isn't a great team. But no CD Lamb, no number

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Speaker 1: every I mean, let's be honest, they play from behind.

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Speaker 1: They you have to win by track meet. I honestly

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Speaker 1: feel like we're in chapter eleven or whatever year it

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Speaker 1: is for Dak, and I mean he Zach Martin, Tyron Smith,

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Speaker 1: he wins double digit games. I think I've undervalued Dak

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Speaker 1: or maybe the intangibles, the tangibles caught up with the intangibles.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's that here's what happens, so Colin by the

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Speaker 3: because he's had good years before and it never leads

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Speaker 3: have a cowboy fatigue, a Dak fatigue. But you have

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Speaker 3: to realize the last time he played a full season,

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Speaker 3: he was second in MVP balloting. That was twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 3: So he's played really well here, has before, but I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I want to talk about some young quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: So you know, Caleb's in year two. But Ben Johnson

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Speaker 1: argument this week bow Knicks may never throw a deep

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Speaker 3: I think it's really good that it's been relatively quiet

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Speaker 3: Ben Johnson came out with guns blazing. I mean he

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Speaker 4: He probably hasn't had that. He probably hasn't had somebody.

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Speaker 4: He's always been the star.

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Speaker 3: It's always come pretty easy for him, and so now

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Speaker 3: him to it. I think what we want to see

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Speaker 3: how much are they setting up the offense so Caleb

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Speaker 1: start with bow Nicks. Last week in London, I thought

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's been a little underwhelming this year.

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Speaker 3: a while. He was a little all over the place,

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Speaker 3: so I guess I need to see how much he

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Speaker 3: can do beyond the system still, and that's fine. I

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Speaker 3: think he's a solid starting quarterback, but I wouldn't really

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Speaker 3: move him ahead of high tier three at this point

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, I think that's right. Drake May Now

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Speaker 1: that's different. He's bigger, got a better deep ball arm

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Speaker 1: like bo Nicks, moves very well. Are you surprised he's

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Speaker 1: moving parts here. I mean, this team fem two hundred

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Speaker 4: Are you surprised, very pleasantly surprised on Drake.

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Speaker 3: May you know, I think that there were positive signs

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Speaker 3: as a rookie, but all the discussion was well, kind

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Speaker 3: of hard to judge him because it was so bad

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Speaker 3: the league thought that's a really bad roster coming into

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Speaker 4: Some of the off schedule stuff's been kind of special.

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Speaker 3: He seems to have the right makeup for all of this,

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Speaker 3: so I'm really encouraged. I think he's somebody that's probably

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Speaker 1: I think Jackson Dart feels a little better story than

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Speaker 3: that's okay if you're Lamar Jackson and you know how

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Speaker 3: a lot of contact without rolling with the punches, right,

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Speaker 3: He's taken them shots and I think that's not sustainable.

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Speaker 4: So that's my one concern with him.

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Speaker 1: Okay, finally, let's wrap it up with this. Did you

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Speaker 3: I thought Baker Mayfield could be good, but I didn't

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Speaker 3: Darnald for sure seemed to be, you know, done, I

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Speaker 3: this coming. So the first person that told me look

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Speaker 3: this is going to be a reclamation story. And it's

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Speaker 3: been totally right. But what he's doing in Seattle, I

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Speaker 3: think is another level ahead of what he did in Minnesota. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, unique personality. Mike santoisoas love your work at The Athletic.

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Speaker 1: Senior writer we love his stuff. Mike, thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: Hey, thank you.

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Speaker 1: It's it's between the old guys hanging in there and

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Speaker 7: Alright, let's start with that big game Denver in the

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Speaker 7: Bronco's linebacker Jonathan Cooper knows they got to bottle up Dart.

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Speaker 5: Once you have played enough in this league and you've

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think Jackson Dart's gonna have one of

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Speaker 7: So so tell me why on the look aheadline? You

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Speaker 7: Well, don't forget Dark didn't just beat Philadelphia. I mean

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Speaker 7: Let me ask you one other thing. Dart's superpower right

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Speaker 1: No, I don't think. I don't see a hole with

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Speaker 7: Homer was, I would take odds on Russell Wilson passing yards.

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Speaker 7: That's how firmly I believe Dart will not finish this game.

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Speaker 7: I think the Broncos could really corral them. Let's move

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Speaker 7: on to Detroit, Colin. That was a tough loss for

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Speaker 8: It's our players are players. You know, we got a

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Speaker 7: to Major League Baseball. You like to say, show, hey,

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Speaker 7: Otani is the best you've ever seen. How about Mookie

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Speaker 1: it's the best run. And it's not just money. You know,

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Speaker 1: the game day revenue of the Jets is much higher

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Speaker 1: than the Jaguars. Okay, Jaguars at least are competent, so

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Speaker 1: it's not just a money issue. Markets right now are

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Speaker 1: not doing particularly well. I mean the NBA, the Lakers,

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Speaker 1: the last I mean, if Lebron doesn't go to the Lakers,

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Speaker 1: they may have a nine year run of NY But by.

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Speaker 7: The way, another dynasty Houston Astros. Remember when they were

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Speaker 7: cleaning up those shooters. Nobody liked those guys.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 7: People don't like dynasties. We're conditioning America did not like dynasties.

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Speaker 7: But I'm just telling I think this Dodgers one is

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Speaker 7: a little different.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so do I. Road attendance is great for them

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Speaker 1: as well. Jmack with a news.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the

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Speaker 2: herd Line News.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yesterday I had an incredibly reasonable take that USC

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Speaker 1: should go to Notre Dame, renegotiate the contract, plan them

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Speaker 1: every other year and play them early because USC, now

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Speaker 1: in a much better conference, has so many road laws

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Speaker 1: to the playoffs that USC should look at what Nick

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Speaker 1: Saban did at Alabama, which is, yeah, we're not adding

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Speaker 1: hard games when you're in a you know, sport defining conference.

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Speaker 1: Nick Saban took him a couple of years to figure

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Speaker 1: it out, like, we're not going on the road for

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Speaker 1: out of conference games. We'll do a neutral field. We're

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Speaker 1: not going on the road. And so I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's I think it's completely realistic to say Notre Dame

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Speaker 1: we'll play every other year, but it's going to be early.

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Speaker 1: We would we don't want to be in the heart

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Speaker 1: of our Big ten schedule. Well, how about this, we

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Speaker 1: open with Notre Dame every other year. We'll open how

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Speaker 1: about we first or second game we open. Okay, that's

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Speaker 1: that that you can come out and do some recruiting

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Speaker 1: in LA. We're not putting you in the middle of

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Speaker 1: our Big ten schedule. That apparently is outrageous to Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame in USC fans. We'll open with you every other year.

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Speaker 1: We're just not going to play it. Right after we

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Speaker 1: we went to Columbus and and law four starters in

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Speaker 1: a physical game because of injury. Wait, and then we

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Speaker 1: got Oregon in two weeks. We're not putting you there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you got to get over this traditional stuff.

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Speaker 1: It's got to make sense for both schools. It makes

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Speaker 1: sense for the cold weather program that's an allows E conference.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense for USC to play in November

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Speaker 1: anymore against the Irish.

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Speaker 4: That is dumb.

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Speaker 1: Dave Wantstadt earlier on the Notre Dame SC rivalry.

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Speaker 9: I coached at USC for three years and we played

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Speaker 9: Notre Dame. Notre Dame back then was a big rivalry,

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Speaker 9: but it was it was Notre Dame in UCLA, and

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Speaker 9: that was it. I totally agree with you. I mean

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Speaker 9: the chips are in USC's hands.

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Speaker 7: I mean the USC is.

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Speaker 9: I mean Notre Dame can play Army Navy, they can

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Speaker 9: schedule who they want.

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Speaker 2: USC is not getting.

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Speaker 4: Away from Oregon or Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this show literally gives rational opinions and faces unrivaled criticism.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know how my opinion is not the

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Speaker 1: standard We'll play every other year. It's gotta be the

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Speaker 1: first game of the year, by the way, the sport

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Speaker 1: would love it. Wouldn't that be great? August Labor Day

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Speaker 1: weekend Notre Dame USC every other year. Hell, if you

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Speaker 1: want to make it every year, it's fine. But because

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Speaker 1: we're in the Big Ten and you're in that softball conference,

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Speaker 1: two or three games are in LA. We can do that.

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Speaker 1: But otherwise USC holds the cards on this. They're at

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Speaker 1: a better conference. They don't need the game. I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's crazy to say every other year first game

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Speaker 1: of the year. I think it's crazy to say the opposite.

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Speaker 1: If you're USC, it makes no sense to play these

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Speaker 1: guys November twelfth every year, regardless of where it's at.

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Speaker 1: Jmax picks around the corner. It's the hurd.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and noonon Eastern ap.

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Speaker 1: All right, Jay Mac a couple of winners last week.

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Speaker 1: We were both doing very very well with our picks.

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Speaker 1: It's a good I thought last week was I don't

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Speaker 1: like these dual Monday night football games. I think they

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Speaker 1: hurt the Sunday package. And I do like waking up

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Speaker 1: on Monday morning and having a Bears Washington game. But

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Speaker 1: this weekend we have two Monday night games. But I

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Speaker 1: really like some of the matchups. I think they're really

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Speaker 1: really into. I like phone Nick's going against Jackson Dart

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Speaker 1: What about Rattler Caleb Williams. I like the young Quarterbacks meeting.

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Speaker 7: And you got the London game to start it, so

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Speaker 7: you're stretched really thin. Two mondays eye London.

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Speaker 1: I like the London game. I like getting on the

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Speaker 1: treadmill in the morning, having a couple of coffee and

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Speaker 1: sit there for an hour. And I got a football game.

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Speaker 1: I like the London game.

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Speaker 7: Okay.

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Speaker 1: I would take a London game over a second Monday

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Speaker 1: night football game any day of the week, no problem

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Speaker 1: at all. Gives me something to do, okay. And I

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Speaker 1: can also make excuses, Oh I can't go to the store.

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Speaker 1: I can't do that. I watch games. Work, have to

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Speaker 1: got to entertain America on Monday. I mean that'll work

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Speaker 1: all right. Week seven in the NFL, Bengals Steelers started

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Speaker 1: out the week with a shootout. We call it Tomorrow's

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Speaker 1: headlines today Jami Dolphins at the Cleveland Browns. Both of

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Speaker 1: us apparently like this game.

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Speaker 7: We've talked about it all week. You know, Cleveland at

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Speaker 7: home is really beastly. Miami is reeling. The headline for

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Speaker 7: Brown's Dolphins Sunday will be it's raining, it's pooring the

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Speaker 7: Dolphins aren't scoring. I think two of struggles in this

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Speaker 7: one against this nasty Cleveland defense. I don't know if

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Speaker 7: you saw the video. Collin the media was asking Miles Garrett, hey, Miles,

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Speaker 7: you haven't had a sack in three games.

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Speaker 1: I saw that.

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Speaker 7: Miles was like, really, are we doing this? I would

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Speaker 7: not be shocked if the Browns came out and made

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Speaker 7: a major statement here. By the way, side note, it's

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Speaker 7: fun that we have our first battle of left handed

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Speaker 7: quarterbacks in nineteen years. We haven't had that since. I

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Speaker 7: think it was like Mike Vick versus Chris Simms back

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Speaker 7: in the day. But we know the weather's this is

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Speaker 7: not gonna be visually appealing. Okay, this is probably sixteen

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Speaker 7: to six or seventeen to nine, something very low scoring,

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Speaker 7: forty mile an hour wins. I think Dylan Gabriel gets

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Speaker 7: his first dub and Miami. Miami's run defense has been gashed.

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Speaker 7: Ricodoudell carved him up, and then Vidal I don't even

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Speaker 7: know his first name, Kimani is that it? They kicked

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Speaker 7: Vidal on the Chargers went nuts. It's like, what is

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Speaker 7: Judkins gonna do? He's a promising rookie. I like the

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Speaker 7: Browns here easily.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow's headlines today, this is a stay away game for me.

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Speaker 1: Patriots at the Titans. New England's been on the road

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Speaker 1: for a while. That worries me. But Tennessee's awful.

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Speaker 7: Third straight road game for young Drake May. I know

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Speaker 7: you love him, Listen, We've liked the Patriots a lot

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Speaker 7: this season. We took him last week against the Saints. However,

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Speaker 7: the headline for Titans Patriots will be, Hey, Mike, remember

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Speaker 7: the Titans. Raybol loses winning script what I'm going outright?

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Speaker 7: Upset Tennessee shocks the New England Patriots and Mike Rabel. Now,

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Speaker 7: I know that much is being made. Not only is

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Speaker 7: this a revenge spot for Rabel Colin, but this is

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Speaker 7: also a revenge spot for Drake May. Remember last season

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Speaker 7: he lost in overtime to Tennessee. May was like making

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Speaker 7: some things happen, lost to Mason Rudolph in that one.

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Speaker 7: I'm sorry, this is just on principle. This is one

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Speaker 7: of those you fire the coach. You kind of got

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Speaker 7: to look to bet.

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Speaker 2: Him right now.

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Speaker 7: Nobody's touching the Titans. You know how you look at

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Speaker 7: those bet splits where it's like, oh yeah, eighty percent

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Speaker 7: of the tickets. This could be like eighty five percent

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Speaker 7: on a road favorite of a touchdown. So I've got

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Speaker 7: to go with cam wort On principle here. I will

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Speaker 7: say this. The kids sweat the defensive tackle from Texas.

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Speaker 7: He had been missing an action. He's back. You bear

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Speaker 7: him and Simmons pressure up the middle. I think Tennessee,

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Speaker 7: you got to go with an op set somewhere. Give

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Speaker 7: me Tennessee outright.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the Mile High City. Tomorrow's

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Speaker 1: headlines today Broncos yuck in London. They're back home against

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Speaker 1: the Giants. What say you?

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Speaker 7: I know a lot of people are like, this is

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Speaker 7: a garbage guy. I don't want to why I don't

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Speaker 7: Broncos Giants? Come on, Jackson Darty's got no chance. You're right.

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Speaker 7: The headline will be hey, boo boo, let's go get

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Speaker 7: us a Picnick's basket. Oh cartoons there for you, Colin

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Speaker 7: and no laughter. But I guess you weren't a big

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Speaker 7: fan of Yogi Bear back in the day. Give me

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Speaker 7: the Broncos big here. I think this is one of

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Speaker 7: the easier picks of a week. Sorry, I've seen the

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Speaker 7: Giants on the road with their rookie quarterback. It ain't pretty.

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Speaker 7: What do they have five straight turnovers against the Saints

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Speaker 7: and that was a Saints defense in a dome. Now

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Speaker 7: you go outdoors at elevation by the way, Giants riding

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Speaker 7: high with Armen Hammer. You know they were celebrating all

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Speaker 7: week in New York City, going to meeting models left

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Speaker 7: and Rights, Skataboo and Dart. You know, these two young

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Speaker 7: promising guys. I think they're getting a little high in

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Speaker 7: their own supply. Here and Denver off a not impressive

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Speaker 7: performance against the Jets, Sean Payton gets the group together.

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Speaker 7: This smells like twenty seven to eight or something ridiculous.

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Speaker 7: I think the Broncos handle of member. We talked about

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Speaker 7: it earlier this hour. Broncos were minus ten in this

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Speaker 7: spot a week ago, and all of a sudden at seven,

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Speaker 7: I think that's an overreaction. Give me Denver.

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Speaker 1: So this game is my sixth game. I like the

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Speaker 1: Colts until I heard Joe Walt, Khalil Mack, and Quinton

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Speaker 1: Johnson could all play. Now I'll take the Chargers because

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Speaker 1: they listen. They needed a play of the year by

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Speaker 1: Herbert to beat the awful Dolphins. So what say you

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Speaker 1: tomorrow's headlines? Today, the Colts, who were just at so

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Speaker 1: far to face the Rams, take on the Bolt.

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Speaker 7: In another long road trip to the best coast for

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Speaker 7: Shane Steichen and Daniel Jones. This is a tough one.

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Speaker 7: Low spread Chargers banged up the headline. Well me her

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Speaker 7: beauty and the Beast Colts find themselves in harry situation.

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Speaker 7: Give me jesse Minter and the Chargers deep confounding the

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Speaker 7: Indianapolis Colts, Colin, I like the Chargers here to win outright,

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Speaker 7: like we talked about, is a second trip west for

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Speaker 7: the Indianapolis Colts, and they ended up losing to the Rams.

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Speaker 7: It was tough when the kid Mitchell had that goofy

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Speaker 7: fumbles out of the end zone. But like you said,

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Speaker 7: the Chargers are getting healthier. And I'll be honest with you, Colin,

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Speaker 7: I think the Colts, you know, kind of maxed out

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Speaker 7: two weeks ago. And I looked at their schedule. They

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Speaker 7: beat up on Miami, who's one in five. They beat Tennessee,

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Speaker 7: who's one in five. They beat Arizona, who's two and four.

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Speaker 7: I mean, who's next on the schedule.

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Speaker 1: Who they gave up nine big plays Jacoby Burssett had

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Speaker 1: success down the field. So that Arizona game was a

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Speaker 1: at home, was a go either way game, and.

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Speaker 7: I looked into that, how do they give up nine

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Speaker 7: big plays because Marvin Harrison left injured with the concussion.

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Speaker 7: So here's what happened. They lost Ward, their good cornerback

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Speaker 7: who was on the Niners. They lost him in warm ups.

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Speaker 7: They had to thrust in this dude named Edwards who

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Speaker 7: played at TWU lane last year. He got absolutely cooked

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Speaker 7: by Zay Jones like five times. I mean it was bad.

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Speaker 7: And now he's got to face either Laden McConkey or

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Speaker 7: Quentin Jefferson. I'm just I think the Chargers win this.

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Speaker 7: I think the Colts I was stupid to pick him

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Speaker 7: last week at the top of the market, and unless

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Speaker 7: Jonathan Taylor goes for like two hundred yards on the ground,

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Speaker 7: I think the Chargers have this one. I'm going with

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Speaker 7: Justin Herbert, who I think is getting close. Man, from

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Speaker 7: what I've seen from HM this year, Colin with no

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Speaker 7: offensive line, I think he's right there knocking on the

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Speaker 7: door as the six best quarterback in the league.

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Speaker 1: Finally, Tomorrow's headlines today, this will be a good Monday

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Speaker 1: night game, big matchup the relentless Baker Mayfield in the

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Speaker 1: box go to Detroit off a thumping at the hands

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Speaker 1: of the Chiefs.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so the injury reports are key in this one.

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Speaker 7: But also Dan Campbell off a loss. Oh you know

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Speaker 7: he's got that locker room fired up. The headline for

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Speaker 7: Bucks Lions well be or are over? Are Lions? Take

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Speaker 7: Bucks down a peg? Give me Dan Campbell and Jared

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Speaker 7: Goff in a revenge spot here Colin awful loses the

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Speaker 7: combo of golf and Dan Campbell are twenty and eight

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Speaker 7: against the spread. They just bounce back as good as anybody.

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Speaker 7: They're at home. This says ticked up now to six.

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Speaker 7: It was four and a half earlier in the week.

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Speaker 7: I know everybody likes the Tampa story. And Jason, you

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Speaker 7: keep picking against Baker. He keeps making you look like

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Speaker 7: an idiot. I'm sorry, I got to go back to

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Speaker 7: the well again. By the way, no Abuca this week,

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Speaker 7: No Godwin, no Evans. It doesn't sound like so now

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Speaker 7: you're throwing it like Tedz Johnson, the guy who caught

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Speaker 7: a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: On the road in one of the best home advantages

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Speaker 1: in the league with a team that's in a bad mood.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know that Detroit crowd is going to be

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Speaker 7: real boost up. They're going to be looking for blood here.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 7: The back end of the Detroit defense has me concerned.

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Speaker 7: Mahomes did kind of toy with them. So I think

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Speaker 7: Baker will have some moments. And Baker beat him last

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Speaker 7: year in Detroit as a big underdog, but I think

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Speaker 7: the Lions bounced back here. I'll go like thirty one

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Speaker 7: twenty Detroit wins.

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Speaker 1: My favorite two bets. I think my Lions bet was

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Speaker 1: my favorite bet, and I do think I do think

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Speaker 1: the Denver defense Jackson Dart It's again, it's it's defenses.

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Speaker 1: I've always had that I could be wrong on this,

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Speaker 1: but I bet if you went to the last twenty

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Speaker 1: years and looked at the best defenses, why are they

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Speaker 1: always a little better at home? And I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of it is Dave Wanstat said this earlier offense

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Speaker 1: can be dictated by weather matchups, right, but defenses mostly

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Speaker 1: know your assignment and play with incredible intensity, and that's

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Speaker 1: easier at home. The home crowd is all riled up.

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Speaker 1: When you get a sack on the road. The crowd

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Speaker 1: doesn't cheer. When you get a sack at home or

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Speaker 1: an interception at home, the crowd goes crazy. So like

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Speaker 1: Cleveland's defense is good at home, watch out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Rams defense at so far, which isn't

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Speaker 1: a great home field advantage. So I tend to think

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Speaker 1: when you get these excellent defenses like the Broncos, and

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Speaker 1: then that you have to play high altitude football in

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Speaker 1: Denver and they're at home, that is a I would

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Speaker 1: be sh if the Giants.

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Speaker 7: Want Denver number one in pressure rate, they have thirty sacks.

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Speaker 7: Look at the stats on the screen at home. They're impenetrable.

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Speaker 7: I know the opener against cam Wood, they didn't cover

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Speaker 7: and they didn't look great. That was the opener. Guys,

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Speaker 7: let's relax. Bo Nix is a question. Maybe Abdul Carter

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Speaker 7: has a monster game and that Giants front wakes up.

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Speaker 7: But again, short of bo Nicks imploding, I think the

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Speaker 7: Broncos role.

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Speaker 1: Mike Sando, senior writer for The Athletic, joined us this hour.

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Speaker 1: He's great. I asked him his thoughts on several players.

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Speaker 1: I went to a bunch of young quarterbacks and here's

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Speaker 1: Mike Sando on what he sees with bow Nicks.

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Speaker 3: I think it's been a little underwhelming this year. I

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Speaker 3: was very high on what I saw last season, especially

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Speaker 3: late in the year, and all of the quarterback tears

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Speaker 3: feedback I got, most of it was from people in

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Speaker 3: the league, was Wow, let's see where this can go.

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Speaker 4: With Sean Payton.

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Speaker 3: I still kind of feel that way, but it feels

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Speaker 3: like it's been a little underwhelling for a while. He

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Speaker 3: was a little all over the place, a little undisciplined.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned, you know, throwing the ball down the field.

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Speaker 3: His explosive play rate is pretty low, so I guess

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Speaker 3: I need to see how much he can do beyond

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Speaker 3: the system still, and that's fine. I think he's a

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Speaker 3: solid starting quarterback, but I wouldn't really move him ahead

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Speaker 3: of high tier three at this point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would not. I think he's he's got absolute strengths.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't get sacked, he's got wheels, he moves very

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Speaker 1: very well. He's coachable, he's very accurate under fifteen yards.

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Speaker 1: But the roster's got some deep threats. Cortland, Sutton and

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Speaker 1: Mims are built to beach over the top. Franklin is too,

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Speaker 1: so I think when you look at their personnel Bonix

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Speaker 1: has been underwhelming, But I also think Sean Payton demands

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Speaker 1: a lot from quarterbacks. I just think he does.

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Speaker 7: Can I ask you, Colin, if the salaries were equal? Okay,

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Speaker 7: who would you rather have over the next four years?

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Speaker 7: Kyler Murray or b Nix Bonnicks? That was quick too, Okay,

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Speaker 7: don't even have to think about it.

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Speaker 1: Give me another one bow Knicks. Oh.

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Speaker 7: I was going to say Justin Herbert, but that's obviously unfair. Okay,

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Speaker 7: how about the Sam Darnold or bo nicks z salary?

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Speaker 7: Not who?

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald a very workable contract. He's bigger, stronger, more athletic,

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Speaker 1: and Sam's on a two year heater. I take Sam Donald,

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Speaker 1: but I love Sam Donald. Yeah, give me one more?

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Speaker 7: Okay, one more Drake May or bon Nicks? Next five years? Interesting?

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Speaker 7: I need, I need you to rank quarterbacks. I'm trying

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Speaker 7: to plant this all the time.

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Speaker 1: Bro. I like what I'm saying about bo Nicks is

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Speaker 1: he is absolutely a franchise quarterback. People are pushing back, No, no,

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Speaker 1: he is, but you're I think Drake May has a

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Speaker 1: higher ceiling. I think he did when he came out

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Speaker 1: of college. I think there I think people were split

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Speaker 1: on bow Nicks. Nobody was split on Drake May. I

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Speaker 1: have every single executive I talked to like Drake May.

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Speaker 1: I said this on the air years ago, two years ago,

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Speaker 1: bo Nicks. It was very split. I like bow more

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Speaker 1: than the executives I talked to, UH and I knew

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton liked him, but Drake May. Everybody liked Justin Herbert,

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Speaker 1: everybody liked CJ.

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Speaker 7: Stroud, everybody liked Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, no, I'd Seejy's. CJ's actually better. I didn't know

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Speaker 1: his comp was Jared Goff, which is pocket guy doesn't

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Speaker 1: move that well. I think I think CJ. Straud moves

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Speaker 1: better than we think. He just needs help up front.

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Speaker 1: When he gets protection, he's really good. When he has

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Speaker 1: any running game, he's pretty good. All Right, we're done.

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Speaker 1: First things First is around the corner. Big college football

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Speaker 1: weekend is well tomorrow Notre Dame USC I have going

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Speaker 1: with the Irish thirty three, twenty four