1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,520 Speaker 1: Thanks to all of you for being with us. Right 2 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: down our toll free telephone number. You want to be 3 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: a part of this extravaganza. Eight nine fourt one Shawn 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: Senator John Fetterman in a moment breaking news just thenews 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: dot com. Police in Toronto in Canada announcing gunman had 6 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: fired on the US consulate there. Thank god, no injuries. 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: Suspects reportedly driving a white Honder CRV stopped in front 8 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: of the building, fired multiple rounds before returning to the 9 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: vehicle and fleeing the scene. None injured in the incident 10 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier. Another incident at Gracie Mansion in New York. 11 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:44,319 Speaker 1: Thank god that situation has been resolved in and another report. Now, 12 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: this is going to end up being a huge mistake 13 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: because Erduwan, the leader of Turkey, is nuts, I'm telling you, 14 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: and he's gotten more extreme. And the Turkish government said 15 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: Monday that NATO forces had to intercept a second Iranian 16 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: ballistic missile that turkey southern airspace. This is not going 17 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: to go over well if the Iranians start pissing off Erduan, 18 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 1: the president of Turkey, and I'm just telling you, they're 19 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: making another huge mistake. But they made a miscalculation. You 20 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: would have thought after Midnight Hammer that if Donald Trump 21 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: gives you a deadline, you might actually listen to it. 22 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:21,839 Speaker 2: Anyway. 23 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: Joining us now, he is a Senator from the Great 24 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. John Fetterman is with us. Senator. 25 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: How are you glad you could be with us? 26 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 3: Hey, Sean, it's great to be here. 27 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, we appreciate having you. I recently got to spend 28 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: time with you. I really enjoyed the time. I mean 29 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: a real substance of conversation. I have a hard time understanding. 30 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: And I'm bringing Steve Wikoff back on the TV show 31 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: tonight for a reason. He was involved with the negotiations 32 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: with the Iranians, and two things came out of that. 33 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: They offered Iran low grade pavilion use uranium that they 34 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: would provide to them for free in perpetuity, in exchange 35 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: for them agreeing they can no longer enrich uranium and 36 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: turn it into weapons grade uranium. The Uranian said, we 37 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: reserve the right to enrich uranium and build the bomb. 38 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: They wouldn't give up on that. Then they disclosed in 39 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: that conversation, which is scary, that they had sixty percent 40 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: of rich uranium, which means that they were only a 41 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: couple of weeks away from having the ability to have 42 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,839 Speaker 1: a nuclear weapon. That's why the president decided to go 43 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: And what part of this being an existential threat to 44 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: our country don't people understand? 45 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I truly don't get it either. Now I put 46 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 3: that on my social media. You know, whether Hillary Clinton 47 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 3: she said she would never allow Iran to acquire a 48 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 3: nuclear bomb and she would use the military if that 49 00:02:55,560 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 3: became the case. And then Kamala Harris in twenty four 50 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 3: she identified Iran as her top you know, international concern 51 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 3: and our adversary, and now she says she would never 52 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 3: allow Iran to acquire a nuclear bomb. So when now 53 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 3: the president accomplished that, why can't you just acknowledge and 54 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 3: even celebrate that now Iran and that it was not 55 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 3: developed a nuclear bomb, and now their missile program is 56 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 3: now severely damaged. And now if you look at the 57 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 3: kind of statistics now you know, the strips are down 58 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 3: ninety percent, and now most of their entire navy has 59 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 3: been destroyed. I mean, it's just been a remarkable testament 60 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: to our military. But I don't understand why Democrats that 61 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 3: all agree we could never allow Iran to acquire a 62 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 3: nuclear bomb. Now that's possible now and here we are, 63 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 3: so I'm the only Democrat to support that, and there'll 64 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 3: be more and more votes trying to restrict this. At 65 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 3: this point, I'll be when Democrats refuse that. I'm always 66 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 3: going to support our military if there is another vote 67 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 3: for more resources. 68 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: Well, it's sort of like with Libya. 69 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: I mean, there was a seven month campaign by Barack 70 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: Obama as it relates to Libya, and every Democrat's on 71 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: records saying oh no, no, no, he doesn't need to 72 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: get the. 73 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: Approval of Congress. 74 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: Just to highlight your point, let me play Democrats over 75 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: the years talking about the threat of Iran. 76 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 2: I think this is important. 77 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 3: We will not allow a ram to acquire a nuclear weapon. 78 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 4: If I'm the president, we will attack Iran whatever stage 79 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 4: of development they might be in their nuclear weapons program 80 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 4: in the next ten years, during which they might foolishly 81 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 4: consider launching an attack on Israel. We would be able 82 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 4: to totally obliterate them. That's a terrible thing to say, 83 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 4: but those people who run irond need to understand it. 84 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,239 Speaker 5: No mistake, a nuclear on Iran is not a challenge 85 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 5: that can be contained. It would threaten the elimination of Israel, 86 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 5: the security of Gulf nations, and the stability of the 87 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 5: global economy at risks triggering a nuclear arms race in 88 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 5: the region, and the unraveling of the Non Proliferation Treaty. 89 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 5: That's why a coalition of countries is holding the Iranian 90 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 5: government accountable. And that's why the United States will do 91 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 5: what we must to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. 92 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,559 Speaker 6: Look, I mean, Iran has American blood on her hands, okay, 93 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 6: and what we saw in terms of just this attack 94 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 6: on Israel two hundred ballistic missiles. What we need to 95 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 6: do to ensure that Iran never achieves the ability to 96 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 6: be a nuclear power. 97 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 3: That is one of my highest priorities. 98 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: Senator. It's inexplicable to me. 99 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: They sound like Donald Trump today, and now Donald Trump 100 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: did what they all said they would do, and look 101 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: at where they are. 102 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 2: I can't explain it, can you? 103 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 3: I can't explain it. As a Democrat, I can't explain it. 104 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 3: All I can do is just acknowledge that this has 105 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 3: been an incredible development. I'm insanely proud of our military 106 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 3: for what they've accomplished and I would remind everybody listening 107 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 3: to I Ran was behind ten seven hamas hezbu Lah 108 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 3: and who this doing those kinds of things they were, 109 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 3: I mean and speaking there, that's fifty three. Fifty three 110 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 3: House members refused to even vote to acknowledge I Ran 111 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 3: was a terrorist underwriting nation. It's crazy. I can't understand that. 112 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 3: I mean, everybody used to agree that we can never 113 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 3: allow them to acquire this, the president and here we are, now, 114 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 3: why can't you just acknowledge that this is a This 115 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 3: is a profound development for world peace, regional peace, and 116 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 3: also on the right side of history of putting Iran 117 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 3: in check and preventing them for acquiring nuclear bombs, and 118 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 3: that makes true peace in that region possible. And now 119 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 3: I can't believe I Ran thought that attacking the Arab 120 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 3: nations in the region was smart and now that can 121 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 3: continue to isolate them and perhaps even the Abraham of course, 122 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 3: could be more part of that conversation after this development 123 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 3: as well too. 124 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: Steve Whitkoff, the Middle East Donvoy, along with Jared Kushner 125 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: were the ones negotiating and I'm bringing Steve back on 126 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: TV tonight for a reason. He said to me They 127 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: offered them this civilian use, low grade enriched uranium if 128 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: they wanted to use it for civilian purposes, which I 129 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: argued they probably don't. But they offered it to them. 130 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: They offered it to them for free, They offered it 131 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: to them in perpetuity. The only thing that they needed 132 00:07:55,320 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: in exchange was a pledge trust but very verified back 133 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: by US inspectors any place, anywhere, anytime. And they outright 134 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: refused and were clinging to their right to build ballistic missiles, 135 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: nuclear ballistic missiles, long range missiles. And my question is 136 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: what part of what happened after Midnight Hammer and fourteen 137 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: bunker buster bombs did not wake them up? 138 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, of course. And you know, you know, the 139 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 3: only thing they ever respect that's raw power and to 140 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 3: use it. And now they've got they've got the message now. 141 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 3: And you know, remind really is what's I Ran even 142 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 3: capable at this point? You know, just empty threats. They 143 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 3: can't back up any of it and know just what's accomplished. 144 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 3: You know, I was the only Democrat to support Midnight Hammer, 145 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 3: and here I am again, and now I Ran has 146 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 3: been forced and held accountable. And all Democrats used to 147 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 3: agree that was the right thing. Why they think it's 148 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 3: the wrong thing. I don't understand other than that happened 149 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 3: to be behind the president's ambition. 150 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: Do you have Do you ever talk to your fellow 151 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: Democrats and ask them what happened? Why did you once 152 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: support this policy and now you don't. 153 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 3: I've tried, you know, even in a casual way. It's like, 154 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 3: why isn't this a good thing? I don't understand. You 155 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 3: don't have to agree on every single point, but you know, 156 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 3: I ran denied and nuclear ambitions, their navy destroyed, and 157 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 3: now no one's talking about or reminding that they executed 158 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 3: up to thirty five thousand of their young people. Now 159 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 3: they are threatening even those poor soccer team in Australia, 160 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 3: and who knows what they might do to their families. 161 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 3: That's the truth about this dynamic. Why we can't just 162 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 3: acknowledge this has been a good thing for world peace, 163 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 3: regional peace, and making it point part of enduring peace 164 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 3: rather than appeasement. We've all seen, we've all tried the 165 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 3: old thing. How many different presidents have tried this, you know, 166 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 3: in this case, President Trump addressed that yes he's a Republican, 167 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 3: as a Democrat, I will call that as a good thing. 168 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 3: You know, I know what my party demands right now, 169 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 3: but out in the country over party, and that's why 170 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 3: I think it was the right call and that's why 171 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 3: I support it. 172 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, Senator, because there's other things 173 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: that the Democrats are doing right now, and right now 174 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: they're not funding the Department of Homeland Security while we're 175 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: in the middle of a conflict. And that includes not 176 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: only ICE the Department of Homeland Security, but it also 177 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: means that TSA, it means FEMA, it means the Coast Guard, 178 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 1: it means the Secret Service. The next thing is, I 179 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: don't think it's that complicated. I mean, do you support 180 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: the Save Act? All it requires is proof of citizenship 181 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 1: and voter I ID to vote. I mean where do 182 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: you stand on both of those issues? 183 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 3: Well, what I think you had to bring up at 184 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 3: DHS now I became I was the only Democrat that 185 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 3: reviews to shut down the entire DAHS apparatus. We all 186 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 3: agree that there could be some you know, and again 187 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 3: I look forward to support my friend Senator Mullen for 188 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 3: the new lead of DHS. Now, I refuse to shut 189 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 3: that down because that's never going to lead to any 190 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 3: kinds of reforms about ice that was behind that. Now, 191 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 3: last time I was at the airport, I asked every 192 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 3: single TSA agent that I encountered, Hey, do you like 193 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 3: getting paid? You know, do you think you should be 194 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 3: paid for that? Yes? Absolutely, one hundred percent. You know, 195 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 3: it makes us less safe. I put that out on 196 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 3: my social media yesterday that the Coastguard just seat eleven 197 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 3: tons of cocaine, kept that off American street. They're not 198 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 3: getting paid part of this. This is part of what 199 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 3: the base might demand. But I'm always going to pick, 200 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 3: you know, I'm going to pick country over the party 201 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 3: what the base demands. And that puts me in another 202 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 3: situation as a Democrat. It's getting increasingly difficult to just 203 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 3: you know, but for me, this is the right side 204 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 3: of history about Iran, and it's never the right thing 205 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 3: to shut our governments down. 206 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: Where do you stand on proof of citizenship and voter idea? 207 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 3: Well, where I'm at. Where I'm at is that I 208 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 3: think eighty three percent of Americans think it's appropriate to 209 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 3: show their idea. And I'm not going to tell eighty 210 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 3: three Americans that they're wrong, or they're crazy, or it's 211 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 3: Jim crow or for this some kinds of voter suppression. 212 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 3: I constantly referenced things like what happened in Wisconsin that 213 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 3: election less than a year ago. They picked a very 214 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 3: very liberal justice, but nearly two thirds they all decided 215 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 3: and they put that in their constitution showing valid state 216 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 3: ID to vote. And that's with the best Americans agree 217 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 3: with that. So the best part of what I do would. 218 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: Support well, just to be clear, you would support the 219 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: Save Act. But I mean that seems to be a 220 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: big point of contention right now, and I don't know. 221 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I want both, you know, both Democrats and Republicans. 222 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: Over the years, and I could name names have complained 223 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: about election results and voter integrity and confidence of results. 224 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: You know, to me, it's just basic fundamental common sense, 225 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: you know, Senator I am. I've gotten to know you 226 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: and become friends with you, even if you don't mind 227 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: me admitting that you may not want to admit it publicly, 228 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: And I look forward. We're going to have you on 229 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 1: our new video podcast soon and I look forward to it. 230 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: And I really appreciate you being a voice of sanity 231 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: and putting partisanship aside when if something is right it's 232 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: got to just stay right and that's the end of it. 233 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: But and I know you take a lot of heed 234 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: for it. We appreciate you also being on this program. 235 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: Thank you, sir. 236 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 3: Oh hey, thanks for having me back up. 237 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: Thanks all right, Senator John Fetterman, the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. Well, 238 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: is really one reporter in the country that just stands 239 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: out above the others, and it's our friend John Solomon 240 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: justinnews dot com. Uh, he's its founder, editor in chief 241 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: and chief investigative reporter. He has a piece out today. 242 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: Trump targeted by four FBI code name counter intel probes 243 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: that ensnared hundreds of Americans. Now Cash Betel's building this 244 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: criminal case in one operation, planning the declassification of two 245 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: others so that Congress can be informed of the abuses 246 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: by previous administrations targeting Donald Trump. But what you're learning 247 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: here is pretty much for nine straight years, Donald Trump 248 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: was targeted. Now we've known about Arctic, we've known about 249 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: Crossfire Hurricane. Now the FBI director has personally led the 250 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: effort to review the operations. Those two operations and two 251 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: others I'd not heard of before, Round River and Plasmic Echo, 252 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: and its stretched all the way from the summer of 253 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen before he was ever elected. As you know, 254 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: if the Justice Department can be weaponized this way and 255 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: the FBI, you know, is used in this way for 256 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: political purposes, you will lose your country. And that's what 257 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: Dan Bongino put out with that cryptic tweet that one day, 258 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: you know, no Democratic Republicans survive, based on what he 259 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: had just seen. And we had him on this on 260 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: this show, and he explained what he meant by that, 261 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: based on what he had seen about the abuse of power. Anyway, 262 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: John Solomon can better explain all of this, mister Solomon, 263 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: thank you for being well us. Great work. As always, 264 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: this is chilling when you really get into it. How 265 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: deep does this go and what does it mean? And 266 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: who might be impacted by this? 267 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 7: Well, it'll be hundreds of people when we're done. We 268 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 7: know that Charlie Kirk TPUSA was targeted. We know Rudy 269 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 7: Giuliani was targeted. We know that certain filmmakers who tried 270 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 7: to make movies about Hunter Biden based on the reporting 271 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 7: I did back in twenty nineteen, they were targeted. One 272 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 7: of them just got a letter acknowledging it saying, hey, yeah, 273 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 7: we took your email on your phone records, but sorry 274 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 7: about that, and we've closed it down. It will be 275 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 7: one of the largest dragnets in FBI history, because what. 276 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: Do you mean, I just stopped you for a second. 277 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: I'm not I don't like to interrupt you, but I 278 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: want to clarification on this. You're going to get a 279 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: letter saying, oh, you were targeted. You didn't know you 280 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: were targeted, And I guess that means spying on your 281 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: phone records like they did with congressmen and senators and 282 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: maybe even more. Sorry, oops, it was a mistake. We 283 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: shut it down. Is there any recourse, if there's if 284 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: there was no justification whatever happened about you know, something 285 00:16:58,320 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: called unreasonable search and. 286 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 7: See, Well, that is such an important question, and I 287 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 7: think it's the thing that HARMEA. Dillon keeps talking about 288 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 7: as the Assistant Attorney General of the Civil Rights Division, 289 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 7: which is once before in American history, we had an 290 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 7: era where the law enforcement agencies went after people. It 291 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 7: was the Civil Rights era, and black people were discriminated 292 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 7: against during the KKK era, and there were these police 293 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 7: departments that did awful things to black Americans and the 294 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 7: law allowed the Justice Department in those days to bring 295 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 7: criminal racketeering cases in civil racketeering cases, and that's how 296 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 7: they cleaned up the era of Jim Crow and began 297 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 7: bring justice and break that. The Harmea. Dylon says that 298 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 7: they are looking at that possibility here, that they're looking 299 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 7: at the way the FBI and the intelligence community was 300 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 7: used here, that it might marrow that and that you 301 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 7: might bring a rico or conspiracy case, as Cashptel laid 302 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 7: out in his memo a year ago. And the charge 303 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 7: will the deprivation of civil rights. You deprived President Trump 304 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 7: and the supporters of the civil rights protect their privacy. 305 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 7: You didn't protect their Fourth Amendment privileges. That is what 306 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 7: the Justice Department's looking at now, looking at it and 307 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 7: doing something two different things. We'll have to see if 308 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 7: they get there. But that is a very important part 309 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 7: of what the US Attorney's Office in Miami in Fort Pierce, 310 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 7: Florida are now looking at. But you said something profound. 311 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 7: It really is the nute of this when we step 312 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 7: back and you get above the trees, because all these 313 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 7: things have come out in like little increments over eight years. 314 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 7: The real truth of the matter is from the moment 315 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 7: Donald Trump began running for president, the FBI, even though 316 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 7: American people twice said they wanted them to be president, 317 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 7: the American people or the FBI treated the president as 318 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 7: a national security threat. He was subjected to four consecutive 319 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 7: counterintelligence criminal code name investigations, and it started with Russia 320 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 7: collusion summer of twenty sixteen, and it goes all the way 321 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 7: to January of twenty twenty five. Lives confirmed that there 322 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 7: were activities the FBI was still conducting in the final 323 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 7: days before Donald Trump raised his hand a second time. 324 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 7: It took the oath of office in January twenty twenty five. 325 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 7: They all have cute code names at Plasmic Echo, Round River, 326 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 7: But at the end of the day, what the FBI 327 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 7: was doing is repeatedly treating the president like a national 328 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 7: security threat and trying to find something to hang on 329 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 7: his campaign or presidential home. And I think that that 330 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 7: is really shocking to hear it that way, but it 331 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 7: really is what the evidence shows. 332 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: Well, if we go back and you reference this in 333 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: your piece, you know, we know at least four hundred 334 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: conservative groups with Arctic frost. We've spent a lot of 335 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: time talking about that we know about Crossfire, Hurricane, you 336 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: know the disproven Russia collusion lie, we know about the 337 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: dirty DASI separate and apart from all of that, but 338 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: then we have these new investigations that you're going into detail, 339 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: and they're all equally troubling to me. Now there's two 340 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: that I had never heard of. I've never heard of 341 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: plasmic echo before. That has to do with moral logo, 342 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 1: and that has to do with the Merrick Garland personally 343 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: approving the decision for a search warrant, the FBI's raid 344 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: on Merri Lago. Now we're getting to the bottom of that, 345 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: and you know what did what did Director Ray know? 346 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: Who was against this? Who was for this? And here's 347 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: what's even more troubling. Then you have this operation code 348 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: named Round River. You point out maybe the most troubling 349 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: of all the counterintelligence probes targeting the Trump universe, though 350 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:39,239 Speaker 1: at president's mostly classified. What does that mean? If I 351 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: had to guess, I imagine if it has to do 352 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: with Biden and his family in Ukraine and zero experience hunter, 353 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: you and I are screwed. 354 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 7: Yeah, well we may have been screwed long ago. We 355 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 7: didn't know it, right, I think we'll want to wait 356 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 7: and see what the foul show. My understanding is the 357 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 7: f guys in the process of declassifying them, they put 358 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 7: agents on this, even senior executs is on this to 359 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 7: get to the bottom of it. But what they found 360 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 7: early on is very troubling. And that is the reason 361 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 7: it's troubling is that the deliminter, the reason the case 362 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 7: was set up, was basically an assessment that said, if 363 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 7: you talked a certain way, if you said certain things 364 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 7: about Hunter Biden or Ukraine, as all of us were 365 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 7: talking about in twenty nineteen, I mean. 366 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: If we told the truth about the fact that he 367 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: had no experience and was addicted to crack and admitted 368 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: as much in his own words that we're in. 369 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 7: Trouble, Yeah, they would deem you a national security threat, 370 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 7: that you were purveying Russian disinformation, and therefore you could 371 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 7: be assessed the threat. And then some of us were 372 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 7: some people were put under investigation. And these people who 373 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 7: put an investigation someone who just made a movie about 374 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 7: Hunter Biden. That's protected by the First Amendment. But we 375 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 7: now know that that occurred. That was really a remarkable 376 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 7: lot and there's an amazing part about that particular filmmaker, 377 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 7: who by the way, was an advisor in Trump won, 378 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 7: then made the movie about made a movie, a documentary 379 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 7: about Hunter Biden, and then he went to advise President 380 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 7: Trump in the twenty twenty four campaign. And in the 381 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,719 Speaker 7: exchange of letters between his lawyer and the FBI, you 382 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 7: learn that the FBI obtained his emails, and in those emails, 383 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 7: FBI obtained some of the advice he was giving President 384 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 7: Trump's twenty twenty four campaign. Do we really want the 385 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 7: FBI spying on political advice to the opposition candidate? It 386 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 7: doesn't seem like the sort of thing that Americans accept. 387 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 7: But that's what's in these letters that we can see 388 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 7: that appears to be related to Round River. But the 389 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 7: idea that the FBI would predicate an investigation based on 390 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 7: the words that we speak or the things that we 391 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 7: said about Hunter Biden, if that turns out to be 392 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 7: true when the documents are released, that's going to be 393 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 7: very troubling. We know from Senator Chuck Grassing that that 394 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 7: is what the whistleblowers have told his committee. And now 395 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 7: we're getting some inkling that the FBI has found the 396 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 7: case file the predication for it, and we may see 397 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 7: some new evidence on that soon. 398 00:22:54,119 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 1: So you're really talking about a massive civil rights violation purposes? 399 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: Am I characterizing that? 400 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 2: Right? 401 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 7: That's exactly how someone who really knows the law right. 402 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 7: Harmy Dyllon is the Assistant Attorney General. 403 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 3: For civil rights. 404 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 7: This is what she's been talking about, and she's going 405 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 7: to come back on my show tonight to answer some 406 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 7: of the questions about this new stuff. But that is 407 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 7: what is being developed in the case in Florida, a 408 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 7: conspiracy to violate similarities from a criminal side, and then 409 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 7: the question is when all the evidence is out, And 410 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 7: we've heard Senator Lindsay Graham, whose phone records were taken 411 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 7: in one of those cases, Arctic Prost, saying, hey, I'm 412 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,719 Speaker 7: going to sue and you can understand why he had 413 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 7: constitutional protections as a member of Congress. There are very 414 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 7: serious issues here, and I think when the evidence is 415 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 7: all out, and I think it'll be out within the 416 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 7: next month or so, there'll be two tax for accountability. 417 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 7: The criminal investigation, does anyone get charged will see and 418 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 7: then people who believe the civil liberties re violet can 419 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 7: they sue? And the clock will start once this classified 420 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 7: evidence is made public and the people find out who 421 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 7: was really targeted in these investigators? 422 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 1: Are you saying that anybody that brought up the issue 423 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: of zero experience? 424 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 2: Hunter? 425 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: I mean, how are you not on the list now 426 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: we're talking about anybody in Trump's orbit? Is that what 427 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: you're saying here? 428 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 7: Well, it's a large I'm not everybody, but there'd be 429 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 7: a large number. It looks to be in the hundreds. 430 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 7: We know just Artic Cross alone targeted four hundred conservative 431 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 7: figures and groups. That's just one of the four code 432 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 7: named investigations that we've tracked. We don't know the full 433 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 7: amount yet, but we expect to. We have some indication. 434 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 7: You and I talked about this a week or two ago. 435 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 7: The GEO just did a report in January that didn't 436 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 7: get released, but we got a copy of it. Twelve 437 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 7: hundred people who fall into special circumstances subjects meaning people 438 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 7: who have special protections. You're a lawyer's supposed to have 439 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 7: privileged with your client, you're a member of Congress, you 440 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 7: got constitutional separation of pot. 441 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: By the way, in the case of Susie Wilds, the 442 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,360 Speaker 1: chief of staff, that would mean when she was talking 443 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: to her loyal that lawyer. 444 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 2: That's supposed to be privileged. 445 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,959 Speaker 7: As a Reuters. Yeah, that they actually listened in on 446 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 7: one of her conversations. Out. Let's see if that turns 447 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 7: out to be true the evidence comes out. But special 448 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 7: circumstances targets are people like you and I were journalists, 449 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 7: were protected. You're supposed to have a special layer of protection. 450 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 7: Twelve hundred people that fell into that quarter, guy, I 451 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 7: just want to say that again. One thousand, two hundred 452 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 7: people that fell into that category of lawyer, clergy, journalist, filmmaker, 453 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 7: congressional person, political advisor to a campaign. They were investigated 454 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 7: under these things called assessments. Assessments require no proof of wrongdoing. 455 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 7: The FBI can just simply say, John Solomon, I assess 456 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 7: you're a threat. I'm going to start looking at you. 457 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 7: That is what the GOO said they found when they 458 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 7: looked at the Chris Ray era of the FBI twenty 459 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 7: eighteen to twenty twenty four. That report we put up. 460 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 7: Everybody can read it. That is very frightening because there 461 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 7: weren't twelve hundred lawyers and journalists indicted over the last 462 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 7: six years. So what does it tell you a lot 463 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 7: of people were assessed and investigated who did nothing wrong. 464 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 7: They were innocent, and I think that that is the 465 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 7: big concern here. And when it comes to Round River, 466 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 7: Round River. If the speech delimiters are certain things said 467 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,239 Speaker 7: about Hunter Biden or the Biden family or Ukraine, what 468 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 7: if those turned out to be true. What if, at 469 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 7: the end of the day, the things that people were 470 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 7: targeted for saying in these movies or in our stories 471 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 7: or on social medium, what if those turned out to 472 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 7: be true. Imagine the FBI would have been investigating people 473 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 7: for saying true things. And we now know that everything 474 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 7: we reported about Hunter Biden in nineteen it actually came 475 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 7: out to be true. And you and I had one 476 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 7: indication of this. I've had two indications, You've had one. 477 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 7: We learned a couple of years ago from documents released 478 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 7: under Foy at the State Department that your my social 479 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 7: media accounts were monitored by the State Department's intelligence service. 480 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,239 Speaker 7: That's something that's out in public people. It is what 481 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 7: it is. State Department's not supposed to target Americans, but 482 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 7: they did. In twenty twenty two. 483 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: Well, Jim Jordan said, they actually suppressed my social media 484 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: but go ahead. 485 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,719 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, no, that's it. Once they flagged it and 486 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 7: monitored it. They had the ability to turn the dials 487 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 7: down and keep you from being successful suppressing the First Amendment. 488 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 7: The second thing that I learned in twenty two I 489 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 7: was suddenly informed by the US Attorney's Office in New 490 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 7: York that I was a subject of a criminal investigation. 491 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 7: I'm like, what, I'm a journalist, what the heck? And 492 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 7: I learned that the US Attorney's Office and the FBI 493 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 7: believed that I had been conspiring with Russian sources to 494 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 7: put out misinformation in the public, and so I cooperating. 495 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 7: I got my release from my sources, and I went 496 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 7: to the US Attorney's office and said, you think I 497 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 7: got this stuff from Russians through Rudy Giuliani, here's the truth. 498 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 7: I actually filed a waiver saying that I couldn't do 499 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 7: any reporting with Rudy Giuliani because I was negotiating a 500 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 7: podcast with him at my employer, The Hill, and because 501 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 7: I had a financial deal going with him, I couldn't 502 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 7: rely him on as a reporter. That would be a 503 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 7: conflict of interest. I recused myself. I didn't get it 504 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 7: from Murdy. Juliani wouldn't have been wrong to get something 505 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 7: from Rudy JERIELI, I just didn't. I got it from 506 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 7: the FBI, and I turned over all the documents I 507 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 7: got in December twenty eighteen. I got those documents December 508 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 7: twenty eighteen, a year before the laptop was found, and 509 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 7: I had emails from Hunter Biden. I had analysis from 510 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 7: the US government, and that was the base of those 511 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 7: stories that I came home. When the government found out, wait, 512 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 7: you got this from US, they dropped the case right away. 513 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 7: But that's the sort of danger when the FBI goes 514 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 7: after free speech. They may go after something that may 515 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 7: be totally true, yet they made it look like rushing disinformation. 516 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: John Solomon, Editor in chief, founder and chief investigative reporter 517 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: justinews dot com. Great work as always, John, Thank you. 518 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: Quick break right back, we'll continue on the other side.