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Speaker 1: the episode. Hello, how you doing, I'm doing all right?

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Speaker 1: What is going on with you? What is your name?

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Speaker 2: My name's Bella, Bella.

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Speaker 1: What did you want to call in to talk about today?

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Speaker 2: I have like a few things I kind of. I

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Speaker 2: wanted to ask you a question though, And this is

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Speaker 2: really funny because somebody in the chat. I couldn't tell

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Speaker 2: if it was my voice or like mannerisms or something,

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Speaker 2: but somebody in the chat asked if I was Jewish,

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Speaker 2: and I was like, shit, like, my do I sound Jewish?

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Speaker 1: Are you maybe as a Jewish? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I am Jewish, but like do I But like it

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Speaker 2: was a strange to me that somebody asked me that,

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Speaker 2: because I was like, I don't feel like I sound

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Speaker 2: super Jewish, but maybe I do. Like do you ever

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Speaker 1: Do you take it as a bad thing that you

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Speaker 1: sound Jewish?

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Speaker 2: No? No, not at all. But I'm like, I'm I

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Speaker 2: feel like I'm very like culturally Jewish, but not religiously

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Speaker 2: because like my parents are from my parents are from

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Speaker 2: the Soviet Union, right or like originally the Soviet Unions,

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Speaker 2: Like they immigrated when they were like in their teens,

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Speaker 2: like before it collapse or whatever. So like I'm Jewish,

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Speaker 2: but like I don't know, like you weren't really allowed

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Speaker 2: to be religious in the Soviet Union, So everybody's like

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Speaker 2: kind of culturally Jewish but not religiously, so like, I

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Speaker 2: don't know, I'm kind of like an atheist. I don't

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Speaker 1: So wait, okay, back to the couple things that you

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Speaker 1: wanted to talk about was this was was being Jewish

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Speaker 1: one of them?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Kind of, because I feel like I've heard you

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Speaker 2: talk about being Jewish before and like how you heard

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Speaker 2: Did you go to Jewish camp or Jewish school?

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, Jewish camp.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: I went to Jewish school from kindergarten third grade. Then

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Speaker 1: I went to public school, but then I was in

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Speaker 2: Oh you did Hebrew School?

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Speaker 1: Did school the h did the Jewish summer camps. Did

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Speaker 1: did a little bit of the Bbyo in high school.

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Speaker 2: And oh my gosh, you were a Bbyops were you?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Dude, No, but I knew so many people who were.

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Speaker 2: But that's the thing is like I was like Jewish,

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Speaker 1: I actually got hazed in my Bbyo chapter. They're like what, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Are you lying?

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Speaker 1: No, I'm behind you percent serious and uh one of

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Speaker 1: our one of uh I think like our parents found

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy. I dated this guy my senior year

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Speaker 2: of high school who was bbyo Jewish and he was

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Speaker 1: I just want to clarify. I just want to clarify.

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Speaker 1: I think people maybe in the chat got me. These

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Speaker 1: sixteen year olds doing this. Okay, just to be clear,

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Speaker 1: I was I was looking at the chat and I realized,

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Speaker 2: No, maybe it sounded weird. Yeah yeah, but no, no anyway, yeah,

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Speaker 2: But it really is like, you know, a big fucking thing.

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Speaker 1: Jews have this that like we're obsessed with shushing. Like

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Speaker 1: and it's like, fucking, I hope your head experience.

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Speaker 2: There's like certain actions I feel like that are just

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Speaker 1: I'm glad, I because I noticed that while I was,

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Speaker 2: Did you have a bar Mitzvah?

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Speaker 1: I did? I did have a bermtzva.

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Speaker 1: into sports. I was never into sports, but everyone was

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Speaker 1: did these fucking sports bar mitzvahs. So I was like,

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Speaker 1: It would have been sweet. But I decided to I

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Speaker 1: so my I remember wanting to make my sweatshirt as

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Speaker 2: There was one girl, and oh you didn't get to

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Speaker 1: It was just there was only one girl. I wasn't

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Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, but they're kind of embarrassing things, aren't they.

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Speaker 2: Like if you don't like having a lot of attention

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Speaker 2: I mean, I never had one, so it was always

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Speaker 1: Here's a cool thing, my bar mitzvah, because really because

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Speaker 1: They do bar Mitzvah's. We had a Davon Buster's bar

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but like that sounds way more fun than the

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Speaker 2: because I don't know, I don't know what you guys

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Speaker 2: outside the boys facing inwards, and then they'd say, like

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Speaker 2: they'd play music, and then when they'd say snowball, you

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Speaker 2: And seriously, it was the most awkward and embarrassing. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so it's uncomfortable, and like that's just what we did.

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Speaker 2: And then there was another, like another version of it.

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Speaker 1: What what does your mom think of? What does your

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Speaker 1: Tell your mom I have more Twitch subscribers than her.

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Speaker 2: You absolutely do, so you one hundred percent do, so

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Speaker 1: We talked a pretty long time about being Jewish. Was

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Speaker 1: there any other things in your handful of things that

439
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Speaker 1: you wanted to talk about?

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Speaker 2: Like a little bit, I like talked to the chat

441
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Speaker 2: a little bit. I graduated from college and winter twenty

442
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Speaker 2: twenty one, and then I spent a few months working

443
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Speaker 2: and then I actually, I actually lived in New Zealand

444
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Speaker 2: for a year, so I went. I came back from

445
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Speaker 2: New Zealand in June, and I like, I'm actually, I'm

446
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 2: kind of mad at you, Loki, because you announced that

447
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Speaker 2: you were going to New Zealand and Australia and I

448
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,159
Speaker 2: was so fucking excited to see you. And then I

449
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 2: had to leave because my visa was over June seventh,

450
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Speaker 2: so I had to go out of the country. And

451
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Speaker 2: then you came later.

452
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Speaker 1: What city are you in now?

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Speaker 4: I'm in Chicago.

454
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Speaker 2: I'm in the suburbs of Chicago.

455
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Speaker 1: Oh fucking I'll be in Chicago in twenty twenty four.

456
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you will. I actually, that's the other

457
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Speaker 2: thing I was gonna say. And I was, this is

458
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Speaker 2: a really good, good chance that we talked, because I

459
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 2: low key DMD you on Instagram about this, but nobody

460
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Speaker 2: Guilly didn't see it. I'm not mad or anything, but

461
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Speaker 2: I have friends in Toronto, so I bought tickets to

462
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Speaker 2: Toronto to see you because I knew you're coming there

463
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 2: kind of soon, and I was like totally planning on going.

464
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Speaker 2: But then I got back from New Zealand and I

465
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Speaker 2: haven't been able to like find a like super steady job,

466
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Speaker 2: so like now I don't think I can go to

467
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Speaker 2: the Toronto show. So if anybody is in Toronto and

468
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Speaker 2: wants to buy those tickets, like, there's tickets available now,

469
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Speaker 2: so you should definitely do that. I think it's a

470
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Speaker 2: ten pm show. But yeah, So I'm really upset because

471
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Speaker 2: I almost saw you in New Zealand and then I've

472
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Speaker 2: almost missed you in Canada.

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Speaker 5: I will, I will four, I will, I will.

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Speaker 1: Eventually I will come to where you are living and

475
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Speaker 1: you will not have to leave the country to see

476
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Speaker 1: me flail around in a gecko costume before your very

477
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Speaker 1: human eyes.

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Speaker 2: I know, and it's going to be like the greatest

479
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Speaker 2: thing ever, and I'm super excited about it.

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Speaker 3: Where did you?

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Speaker 2: Where did you go when you came to Chicago.

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Speaker 1: I went to the Lincoln Lodge, but I think next

483
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Speaker 1: year I'll probably do a little bit bigger of a

484
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Speaker 1: venue associated to Lincoln Lodge, like and Lodge are good homies.

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Speaker 3: Second, no, no, no, I was just yeah.

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Speaker 2: I just said, like Lincoln Hall is also other cool.

487
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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's I don't know what Lincoln Lodges.

488
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Speaker 1: Maybe that is Lincoln Hall. Is that a big theater.

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Speaker 2: Lincoln Hall. Yes, it's like like they do like live

490
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Speaker 2: music and stuff there.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know if I'm I don't know if

492
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Speaker 1: I'm big enough to fill it but not. But I'm

493
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Speaker 1: not big enough yet.

494
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Speaker 2: It's a big place, so it's not huge. I mean,

495
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Speaker 2: I feel like you could.

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Speaker 1: Any final, any final things you want to say to

497
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Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go.

498
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Speaker 2: I always say yes to things.

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Speaker 1: Except if somebody asks if they can kill you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess that's true. Say yes to things if

501
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 2: there are things that you think you should do. And

502
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Speaker 2: I don't know. You can always catch up on sleep.

503
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 2: I feel like people people go to bud too early.

504
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 2: You always catch up on sleep. Thanks for talking about

505
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Speaker 2: Thanks for bringing up Hyle.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to the I don't know. I wonder how

507
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Speaker 1: many people who listen to this are Jewish that you know,

508
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 1: really got it? Really We're in on on on on

509
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Speaker 1: some of the hard, hard issues me and Bella were

510
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Speaker 1: talking about. Hello, folks, it's Lyle. This concludes the phone

511
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Speaker 1: call slash Judaism portion of this podcast and begins the

512
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 1: portion of this podcast where we teleport to one of

513
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Speaker 1: the most isolated big cities in the world, Perth, Australia,

514
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 1: which is surrounded by miles and miles of uninhabitable forest,

515
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Speaker 1: and yet people still manage to live there, eat food,

516
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: look at each other and say words, just like they

517
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Speaker 1: do all over the world. I was on as I

518
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Speaker 1: was in Perth on tour this summer, and I and

519
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: I took to the streets. I set up some chairs

520
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: and some microphones and I managed to talk to some

521
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Speaker 1: people there and that is what you are about to

522
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: listen to their fun interviews. So strap in, We're going

523
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Speaker 1: to talk to some real life people. Let's go to Australia.

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Speaker 1: Oh goodness, what's your name man, Diego, Nice to meet you.

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Speaker 1: What are you doing here in Perth?

526
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Speaker 5: Starting cool?

527
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Speaker 4: Do you live here?

528
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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: What what are you studying?

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Speaker 5: Current zoology?

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Speaker 4: Okay? What kind what kind of gecko? Do you am. I,

532
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 4: here's a test.

533
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Speaker 5: Getting lion gecko.

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Speaker 1: You passed, thank you, here's your degree. Just kidding, I

535
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Speaker 1: don't I don't have that kind of authority, although I

536
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 1: don't know I got how hard I was gonna say,

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Speaker 1: I don't have that kind of authority? But how hard

538
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Speaker 1: is it to become be authorized to give out zoology

539
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Speaker 1: degrees and perth?

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Speaker 4: I feel like it's easy, right.

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Speaker 5: I would say it's easy because it feels like everyone

542
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Speaker 5: just giving them out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not too.

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Speaker 5: Much of a like a degity base thing. It's like

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Speaker 5: if you read books about animals, you won't know about animals.

547
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Speaker 5: You gonna like go when I touch them?

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Speaker 1: And just like you've ever seen. When I was a child,

549
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Speaker 1: there were advertisements all over.

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Speaker 4: TV for this thing called zoo books.

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Speaker 1: You know, zoo books is maybe it was an American thing,

552
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Speaker 1: but there's things called zoo books and you would send

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Speaker 1: a check for like twenty dollars in the mail and

554
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Speaker 1: then every week they would send you a book about

555
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Speaker 1: a different animal.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's hype, Yeah that's nice. Yeah.

557
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Speaker 1: So maybe I don't know, Maybe you can you can

558
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Speaker 1: probably learn everything you need to know for your zoology.

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Speaker 4: Career from the Zoo books.

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Speaker 1: Maybe by the way, of course, it's it's Lachland again.

561
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Speaker 1: Of course. Crap. What was they saying to you?

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Speaker 4: No, you know you never apologize for anything the Zoo books.

563
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Speaker 4: What are you planning to do with your degree in zoology?

564
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 5: An excuse to go to places?

565
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: An excuse together?

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Speaker 3: Places?

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Speaker 4: What places?

568
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 5: Africa, Antarctica, the Amazon?

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Speaker 1: Oh ship? That sounds cool, man, Maybe I'll do being

570
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Speaker 1: a gecko in Antarctica one day.

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Speaker 4: Are there people.

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Speaker 1: Chilling down there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple of scientists.

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Speaker 1: Why how long have you lived in Perth for?

575
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Speaker 3: Were you born here?

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00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 5: Not two years? Moved from Panama?

577
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 4: From Panama?

578
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: Why Perth?

579
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Speaker 5: Low standards?

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Speaker 4: Low standards, low standards. Why is that?

581
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Speaker 5: Why?

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Speaker 4: Low standards?

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Speaker 5: I couldn't get into Bristol. I felt that I couldn't

584
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 5: get into Queensland University does mainly look too boring and

585
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Speaker 5: the only middle ground of birth.

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Speaker 1: So you are here because you're literally here because it

587
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Speaker 1: was your last option. Yeah, damn, it's a bummer.

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Speaker 5: Sorry, birth, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: What are you having fun here? It's a cool city.

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Speaker 4: I lie, I like it a lot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, on a are for five minutes.

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Speaker 5: But I like the crackeads. Yeah, have you seen crackets?

593
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Speaker 5: I've seen a few.

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Speaker 1: The politically correct term is people who.

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Speaker 4: Like to smoke crack.

596
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 5: People who like to smoke crack.

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Speaker 4: You've seen a lot of Yes, people who like smoke.

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Speaker 5: People who like to smoke crack. Believe I also like

599
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Speaker 5: to smoke crack, and ask me if I have cracked

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Speaker 5: to smoke with them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, here's the thing. I by the way, I get

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Speaker 1: people who like to smoke crack. Have you ever smoked crack?

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Speaker 5: I have a smoked truck. I've been offer cracked. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I thart it's very beneficial for your mental health, but

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Speaker 5: not crack.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, crack? Okay, the universe.

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Speaker 1: They really are teaching some stuff at the University of Birth.

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Speaker 1: Where did you learn that crack was benef ishu for

609
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Speaker 1: your mental health?

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Speaker 5: From a crack enjoyer?

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Speaker 1: He was.

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Speaker 5: He was telling me he had less depression of anxiety,

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Speaker 5: just over all better life as a crack enjoyer.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 4: Did he kind of sell you on it a little bit?

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Speaker 5: Almost?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're thinking about it.

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Speaker 3: Think about it.

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Speaker 1: It's like if you went to your therapist and there

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Speaker 1: and you were like, hey, the SSRIs do not working.

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Speaker 5: Do you have any crack. I've further doing it. Like

622
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Speaker 5: something was like where you take meth?

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Speaker 1: You heard they're doing something where you take math.

624
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 5: Yes, where the therapy where you take myth to relax,

625
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Speaker 5: meth therapy, meth therapy.

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Speaker 1: What can make sense because there's MDMA therapy, there's like

627
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Speaker 1: mushroom therapy and all that stuff. Meth therapy, meth therapy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's not a bad idea.

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Speaker 4: Would you would you do that?

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Speaker 5: I haven't been pushed to that point, so no, no

631
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Speaker 5: so far, But I am one to in a safe

632
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Speaker 5: control environment, I wouldn't say no.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you know, I kind of think that. Like I said,

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Speaker 1: I get the people on the streets who are doing math,

635
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Speaker 1: because I look, I'm a curious guy. I like new

636
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Speaker 1: life experiences. I like doing stuff. I could totally see

637
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: myself getting addicted to cracker math. I am no different

638
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: from those guys. I could it could I could totally

639
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Speaker 1: be doing that.

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Speaker 5: I feel there's a difference because like I feel, to

641
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Speaker 5: like start doing hard drugs, you need to be in

642
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 5: a low point in life, sure, and so like I

643
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Speaker 5: feel someone could do like a hard drug, math, crack

644
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 5: and things like that and still get out of it

645
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 5: if a normal life is like better. It's like I

646
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Speaker 5: could be doing crack or I could be going around

647
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Speaker 5: chilling eating ice cream.

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00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: You feel like going around chilling eating ice cream is

649
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: your crack.

650
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 3: Yes, that's crack.

651
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: It's better than crack.

652
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 5: Can say that again, eating ice cream better than crack.

653
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 5: There's this great ice cream plittho on here? I what

654
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 5: you think ice cream better than crack? I haven't. There's

655
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 5: a crack bood.

656
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: Hey, I got one crack flavored ice cream.

657
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 5: I don't recording what tastes good? You know they taste

658
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 5: good because cracks just baked cocaine.

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Speaker 1: For a guy who's never smoked crack, you seem to

660
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Speaker 1: know a lot about crack.

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Speaker 5: I've been curious enough about it to licks research.

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Speaker 1: You know. Here's the thing, though, So in your research

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Speaker 1: my research, did you find out anything that.

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Speaker 4: Would be kind of made you want to do it?

665
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 5: M hm shooms. But I feel like that that's like

666
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 5: a introductory cycle that like.

667
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: In Panama, how's crack? Is the crack going on over there?

668
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 5: So much crack? Yeah?

669
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: Like more than hair much more like? Yeah, okay, did

670
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: you ever do any cocaine or crack?

671
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 5: Panama haven't been offered a lot. You know, it's like

672
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 5: a you're like with your friends chilling like one cocaine.

673
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 5: I'm like, no, I think it's getting late, and then

674
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 5: you leave.

675
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: Okay, so you know when to you leave the party

676
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: right before it starts.

677
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 5: Just before the yeah, before the good party begins. I'm like,

678
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 5: I gotta go eat ice creting?

679
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 4: Are you a party person?

680
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 2: No?

681
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 4: What do you like to do in your free time?

682
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 5: I don't know. I do have free time, and then

683
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 5: I go to my room. I do something like I

684
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 5: go to my bed, I lay in bed, I get up.

685
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 5: It's gone.

686
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: You go to your bed, you lay in bed and

687
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: it's gone, it's gone. What's gone?

688
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 5: The time?

689
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 2: M hm?

690
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 4: Do you are you happy? Do you like life?

691
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: What would make it better?

692
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 2: Oh?

693
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 3: Make life better? Yeah?

694
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 4: Less law less laws?

695
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 3: Less laws?

696
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: Like what what law do you want to get rid of?

697
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 5: Trespassing?

698
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: Where do you want to trespass that this laws prevent?

699
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 5: I don't want to. I want to walk, like into

700
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 5: other people's homes, like, oh, the factory, why can't I

701
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 5: be here?

702
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: You want to be able to go into a factory?

703
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 3: Fact?

704
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: What kind of factory?

705
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 5: I think in factory?

706
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: Any factory. You want to go into a candy factory? Well,

707
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 1: actually I heard there's there's a guy who's he's gonna

708
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: let five people into his candy factory. If but do

709
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: they have to each find a golden ticket?

710
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,959
Speaker 3: Oh? Damn fuck?

711
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 4: You really want to?

712
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 2: Do?

713
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: You really want to?

714
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 3: Where?

715
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: Where else do you want to trespass.

716
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 3: Me?

717
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 4: Seems you can just go in for free.

718
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, but like I feel, that night is a better

719
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 5: vibe to it.

720
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: You know, you've ever seen that's not true? You ever

721
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: seen the movie The Night at the Museum. Yeah, it's

722
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: fucked up in there.

723
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 3: Vibes.

724
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 4: It's not good vibes. It's not good vibes at all.

725
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: I don't don't think. I don't think. Look at Diego, Diego.

726
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: You seem like a nice guy.

727
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 4: You really do, thank you. But I don't think you'd

728
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,439
Speaker 4: last five seconds. And at the Night of the Museum.

729
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 5: Would I would thrive?

730
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: No?

731
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 3: Are you?

732
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: And you would get killed?

733
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 5: No? No, no, no, right? Because see the thing everybody

734
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 5: and the with hostile charge opinions. No one is open minded.

735
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 5: I'm open minded. Oh my gosh, I'm a Roman emperor

736
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 5: and I'm gonna decapolicate.

737
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 3: Some kids.

738
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 5: Are you, are you gonna help me? Or no, I

739
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 5: won't help you, but I will. But I want to

740
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 5: pose you why because he has an army.

741
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if surviving in the Night of the

742
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: Museum is about being open minded. I think it's about

743
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: unique because here's the thing. The guy who wants to

744
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 1: behead kids. What's the Roman emperor who wants to behead kids?

745
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 1: It's one of those guys.

746
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 4: Here's the thing.

747
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: He's not going to ask you whether or not you're

748
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 1: You're just in his way between him and he just

749
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: wants to behead. He didn't even care for their kids.

750
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: But like, but the think so he'll behead you immediately.

751
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 5: As a person, as an equal, or like as a

752
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 5: background character. Am I just here to see what's gonna happen?

753
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 5: Or am I here to play a role in?

754
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: Also, it's not just guys. There's lions and elephants running

755
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 1: around and they and they cannot be reasoned with at all.

756
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 5: But I have but I just asology, I can pick

757
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 5: the lions and elephants.

758
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 4: That's a good point.

759
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that. Okay, maybe you would survive at

760
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: the Night at the Museum.

761
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 3: Thank you.

762
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: What's your name? Again, Diego, Is there anything else you

763
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: want to say to the people of the computer before

764
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: we go?

765
00:36:53,920 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 5: Yes, we need a Bible too, Oh, like a sequel

766
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 5: to the Bible.

767
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 4: I think you're the guy to write it.

768
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 3: Thank you, and in it.

769
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 1: You can prophesize for a new society, perhaps one to

770
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: be built right here, Perhaps one to be built right

771
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 1: here in Western Australia where crack and trespassing are fully legal. Yes,

772
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: you already got you already, got you already got one

773
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: twelve year old on board fifteen fifteen, many years and

774
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, all right, start this in three years

775
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: when they're voting age.

776
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 4: What's your name again, diego?

777
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you for talking to the get go dude.

778
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 3: I was just kind of sitting there because, like I thought,

779
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 3: I wouldn't go straight off to work, because it feels

780
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 3: nice to have someone that's really excited to talk to you,

781
00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 3: like you lit up when when I'm just somebody coming

782
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 3: through and you lit up, like oh my god, it's rowing.

783
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, yeah, no, you were.

784
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: You were walking by while I was setting up and

785
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: you came over to me.

786
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I did.

787
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 4: I did light up.

788
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: I was like, oh shit, somebody is willing to do

789
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 1: because a lot of the times I'll sit down and

790
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: nobody will want to talk to me, and you seem

791
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 1: like a friendly guy.

792
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 3: Yeah all right, I'm not too I'm not amazing really yeah,

793
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 3: I mean, like on the scale of things, I kind

794
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 3: of even out in some places, you know, like I

795
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,919
Speaker 3: don't earn that much money, but you know, I read

796
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 3: so like it's I'm sorry. I'm kind of thinking of

797
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 3: like a dating sphere of like.

798
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 4: I have oh sure, oh your sexual marketplace?

799
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, do you have?

800
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 4: How where do you think you lay on.

801
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 3: On that like a like a solid like around about seven,

802
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 3: like a bit above average.

803
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 4: That's pretty good.

804
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: Do you or you want any of the dating apps? Uh? Yeah?

805
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. It's funny though, Perth is a bit of

806
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 3: a puddle. So I've run into the issue with Tinder

807
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 3: where I'm starting to circle back on people and you

808
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 3: in high school, and so I've stopped looking hmm okay,

809
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 3: because I don't think that's I forget how close you

810
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 3: have to be to assure microphone no you get is

811
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 3: all good?

812
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I think so testing went to yeah, we're good,

813
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: We're good.

814
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. So I've kind of circled back on like

815
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 3: people on you from high school, and I'm just not

816
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 3: going down that route because, like I used to live

817
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 3: way further south of here, and so I've moved up

818
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 3: here so I don't have to run into those people anymore.

819
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 3: And this probably isn't helping, but I've just like kind

820
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 3: of escaped that area now, so I don't need to

821
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 3: go back.

822
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 4: You know, what kind of person where you like in

823
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 4: high school?

824
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 3: Just a bit of a nerd, just like a bit

825
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 3: of an attention seeker.

826
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: Interesting nerd and attention seeker don't typically go together. Typically

827
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: when you think of a nerd, you think of somebody

828
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: that's a little bit more reserved and introverted. But yet

829
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: you were a nerd attention seeker.

830
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 3: How that worked well? Kind of like you spend your

831
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 3: first part of high school kind of being a bit introverted,

832
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 3: you know, I don't talk to anyone, But then you

833
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 3: get to the end of high school, like year eleven,

834
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 3: that kind of thing you realize I don't have that

835
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 3: many friends, or the friends that I do have are

836
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 3: a bit like people that don't shower enough. So you

837
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 3: kind of like try and step out of yourself, but

838
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,720
Speaker 3: you're not practiced it, so by the end of high school,

839
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 3: you're kind of like you're trying to step out of yourself,

840
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 3: but you're not really used to it. Like right now,

841
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 3: I'm a bit nervous, and this is just like being

842
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 3: on camera, Like I'm still a fairly interested person. Like

843
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 3: having to step out of yourself and forcing yourself, you

844
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 3: become a bit of an attention seeker, and you start

845
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 3: like quoting comedic bits at people, like a bit like

846
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 3: almost like people who are really edgy teenagers. Yeah, kind

847
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 3: of like a lashing out thing, but not in the

848
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 3: same way where I didn't like screen racial.

849
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,919
Speaker 1: Says, Okay, so you were a little bit nervous, Yeah,

850
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: and so it caused you to desire to seek attention.

851
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like I didn't know what to do,

852
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 3: so I just became center of attention kind of person.

853
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:04,720
Speaker 1: That how I think a lot of like traditional cringiness

854
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: maybe is born is like people who are nervous or

855
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: a little bit awkward, like yeah, trying to figure out

856
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: how to validate their own existence. So they'll like make

857
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: noises and how like wolves and stuff, And I get it.

858
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 4: I don't fault those people.

859
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 3: I think cringe is more more of a thing. I

860
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 3: don't necessarily think I was being cringe. I think it's

861
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 3: more of a thing of self awareness.

862
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

863
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 3: Like I think when you say, like someone howling like

864
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 3: a wolf, it's because they've like spent a lot of

865
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 3: time on the internet, and like that's a niche that

866
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 3: they've found themselves in, that's a community that they've like

867
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 3: delved into, and they don't necessarily the self awareness of

868
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 3: seeing themselves through other people's eyes, And that's where the

869
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 3: cringe comes from.

870
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: You know, are you dating anyone now?

871
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 3: No?

872
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: No?

873
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 4: I no, you hesitated for a second.

874
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I like you are you?

875
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: You're like you you're talking going to someone, you're talking

876
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: to someone.

877
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 3: It goes in and out. Like I feel like I'm

878
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 3: a bit of a quitter. So like if there's not

879
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 3: the right amount of energy, I'm pretty quit quick, you know,

880
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 3: I'm I.

881
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: No no, I So like when it comes to that

882
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: that energy being a quitter when it comes to relationships

883
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: or to jobs or two things like that, I'm wondering

884
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: that you could make arguments for and against that, and

885
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: you could be right for both of them. Because if

886
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: a relationship is not working and making you happy off

887
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: the bat, or a job is not working for you

888
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: off the bat, then you know why stay?

889
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean, like my resume looks like shit

890
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 3: because I've had a bunch of different jobs just a month.

891
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I used to be like a trade assistant,

892
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 3: so like I was just bouncing around different places and

893
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 3: rocking out Quanani you know. So, yeah, my resume looks

894
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 3: like shit. But I think when it comes to dating,

895
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 3: it's like just it's it is a bit of a

896
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 3: throwing darts at the dark board, and like the minute

897
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 3: I start like feeling like the energy is not there,

898
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 3: which I suppose you to like give it a second.

899
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: You could you could really argue either way on that

900
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: because like I don't know, some people maybe they'll stay

901
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: in a relationship for a little bit too long, just

902
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: trying to make it work. But you, I don't know

903
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,919
Speaker 1: that it's a really complicated thing because some people could

904
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: argue that you need to put in work to make

905
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: things work, and other people would argue that if it's right,

906
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: it's right.

907
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 3: Maybe it's also I just hate gambling. I'm not I'm

908
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 3: not a big sunk cost fallacy person. It's just the minute,

909
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 3: the minute, this is not it I'm like, scratchy's never

910
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 3: been my thing, or like the poker slots. I've never

911
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 3: liked gambling, So maybe I just kind of trail that

912
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 3: along everything. You know, what is your thing?

913
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 4: What do you what do you do?

914
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: What makes you tick?

915
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 3: Oh? At the moment, it's Warhammer like forty K Is.

916
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: That a board game?

917
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 3: Yeah? Oh it's yeah. It's it's almost like do you

918
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 3: know the old like World War two simulation games where

919
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 3: people would have a bunch of like green men and

920
00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 3: they'd like roll dice and I.

921
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: Know, I know Call of Duty.

922
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, it'd be kind of like ans play like

923
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 3: turn based kind of thing.

924
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, it's it's like real note shit, It's like,

925
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: is like do you on your tender profile? No, you

926
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 1: don't mention that this is like that's like a deep stafe.

927
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: I'm only saying it now because you seem like a

928
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: nice person.

929
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 4: See I actually I can.

930
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 3: I I don't.

931
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 4: I try not to give unsolicited advice to off. Can

932
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 4: I give you into this?

933
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 3: Absolutely?

934
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 4: I think you should. I think the thing that you

935
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 4: think is the deep thing you open with it.

936
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 1: I think it would save you a lot more time,

937
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: because if you're waiting until like the third date, to

938
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: show her your closet full of Warhammer figures.

939
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 4: That's a waste to tell.

940
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: You should open with the have, don't don't have just

941
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 1: your first picture on tender, not even you in it,

942
00:44:54,520 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: just the closet of the warham Yeah, because then look,

943
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: here's the thing. You're gonna get a lot of You're

944
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of swipe lefts right, but you're

945
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: gonna get the right kind of right quality. And that's

946
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: the thing with relationships. I mean, you only need one

947
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: person for it. You can have you can have literally

948
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: every single woman in the world despise you except for one,

949
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: and you're good.

950
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 3: Yeah. And then you build a little fort and you

951
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,720
Speaker 3: like you set up on a hill, well defended position.

952
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 3: Then everyone else that despises you can't get closer anymore

953
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 3: because you've got a well defended position, a bit of

954
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 3: a modern Bailey situation, you know.

955
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you're you're playing Warhammer in real life

956
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: exactly defending your tower.

957
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,240
Speaker 3: Except then you're just committing a bit of a slaughter.

958
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 4: What's life in Pertha?

959
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 3: Like it's a bit boring? Yeah, Why it's well, you

960
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 3: on a weekday, there's not really much you can do.

961
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 3: But that being said, if you've got a car, plenty

962
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:56,919
Speaker 3: of things you can do. You go on a hike.

963
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 3: But like it's not exactly like Sidney Melbourne, where you

964
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 3: just go into the city, go to a bunch of

965
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 3: bookshops that kind of thing, because like everything in Perth

966
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 3: is kind of a chain. Perth isn't super independent, whereas

967
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 3: Freeo is a bit wanky.

968
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: Now Perth is it's the most isolated city in the world, right,

969
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:12,919
Speaker 1: Is that true?

970
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 3: Yeah?

971
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 4: Is does it feel isolated?

972
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 2: Yes?

973
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 3: Recently the band oderber K Beaver, Japanese punk band, has

974
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 3: come to Australia, but they're only doing East Coast shows

975
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 3: and that's very common. Like it's souper for your boy.

976
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: It's not exactly so kind of show. I came all

977
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: the way here to do, dude, I fucking I think

978
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: there's like I think I sold like two hundred something

979
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: tickets in Perth. Damn right, I'm like, who the fuck

980
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: on Berth? Who the fuck in this random city on

981
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 1: the coast of Australia is coming to see me do this? Well?

982
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 3: To be fair, because there's not much going on. There's

983
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 3: like there is like a decent amount of people that

984
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 3: just spend a lot of time online. Yeah, so like

985
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 3: I do go to concerts, Like when I was eighteen,

986
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 3: I went to a ninja sex party. Yeah, they came

987
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 3: to Perth and like that was like a fully packed

988
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 3: thing and I wouldn't have expected that. But it's just

989
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 3: kind of like there's there's not much to do in

990
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 3: Perth aside from being an alcoholic sometimes, which is uh so,

991
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 3: like it's a the entirety of Western Australia spans like

992
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 3: the biggest state in the entire country, so people will

993
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 3: come from all around, but the further you go out,

994
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 3: the more likely it is, like your hobby is will

995
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 3: roll around the internet or like killing.

996
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 6: Cows, killing cows, yeah, like recreationally or I'm just thinking

997
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 6: like farming, like like is farming a hobby or is

998
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 6: it like a I mean they do that everywhere.

999
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 3: I mean, well, my friend's mother owns a what do

1000
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 3: you call it? A rescue and recently they had to

1001
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 3: they had to put down a cow because they had

1002
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 3: like cow cancer, because it was that old that it

1003
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 3: had cow cancer and like it was this thing that

1004
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 3: weighed like two tons too metric and a dairy farmer

1005
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 3: had to come through from the local and bring a

1006
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:04,919
Speaker 3: rifle and gun it down.

1007
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 4: All right, so you should both.

1008
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: Here's what I think. You open on the Tinder profile.

1009
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: You open with the closet of warhammer figures, and then

1010
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: first date you open with the story about your friend's

1011
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 1: mom and that way, and if she's still there, she's

1012
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: the one.

1013
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 3: But I think at the same time, coming off a

1014
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 3: bit too strong immediately and someone's staying around with that

1015
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 3: is I don't know if I agree, but.

1016
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 4: Say something about them.

1017
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because like if I'm immediately like I love you,

1018
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 3: I love you, my friend's dead cow and you're like,

1019
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 3: that's a really cool thing to bring up on the

1020
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 3: first date. I love that. Yeah, I don't necessarily know

1021
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 3: that I want to stay with that person, So I think, like,

1022
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,760
Speaker 3: necessarily you still need to be a little timid.

1023
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: But look, you and I both know in the most

1024
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 1: isolated city in the world, can you be that picky?

1025
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 3: No, it's a puddle, Yeah, it's a puddle.

1026
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 4: What did where?

1027
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:04,839
Speaker 3: You said?

1028
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: So when I first talked to you, you're on your

1029
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: way to work.

1030
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 4: What do you work?

1031
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 3: Down can Away housing place?

1032
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: Okay?

1033
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you?

1034
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 2: What do you?

1035
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: What do you?

1036
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 4: What do you house.

1037
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 3: Uh all the fresh projuice of calls around the state.

1038
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: Okay, I was wondering how you guys like get food

1039
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: here and ship? I'm so dumb, dude, Oh do you

1040
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: I hear a dumb I am?

1041
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 3: I am?

1042
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: I I saw like, all right, so I just got

1043
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: I literally just got here out here less than twenty

1044
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 1: four hours ago. And when I go to a new place,

1045
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: I'm so dumb that everything I see, no matter what

1046
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: it is, I'm like, oh that they do that here.

1047
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 1: So I saw this girl in the park take a

1048
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 1: can of Red Bull and pour it into a bottle

1049
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: of chocolate milk, and I was like, oh cool, they

1050
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: do that here.

1051
00:49:54,040 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 3: This is that's like an Australian thing. Yeah, I mean,

1052
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 3: no respect, but I think that might be an American thing.

1053
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 4: I think more like Americans.

1054
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 5: I talk to.

1055
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 3: Americans online and that definitely seems like an American thing.

1056
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: What do Australia, what do you what do you? What

1057
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: do you guys think of America here? What's the American image?

1058
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 3: A bit ship? Yeah, A bit ship? Yeah?

1059
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1060
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 3: It's like I mean like it's not as bad as

1061
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 3: like Americans and europe Europeans hate Americans.

1062
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 2: They do.

1063
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: I did this all over Europe and they hate America. Yeah,

1064
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: they don't think highly, but it's like.

1065
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 3: A it's like a light British seasoning kind of like

1066
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 3: not hatred for America, but like those dumb Yanks and

1067
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 3: a stupid imperial system.

1068
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: You guys got to cool down here because you're all

1069
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 1: you're just all the way over there, so people, you

1070
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 1: get to just observe the rest of the world as

1071
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: it does its thing, and you're like you're like the

1072
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 1: fly on the wall of the world.

1073
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1074
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 5: No.

1075
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 3: The only thing is like because because the Internet is

1076
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 3: so strong nowadays, culture is is like a bit different here,

1077
00:50:58,640 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 3: like yeah, of course.

1078
00:50:59,320 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1079
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 3: I used to say, I think like Australia was about

1080
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 3: ten years behind the curve on everything till about the

1081
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 3: y two K era and onwards, where like as smartphones

1082
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 3: came out, like culture has just kept eye to eye

1083
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 3: with America and Australia kind of thing, where like you

1084
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 3: see people around here dress kind of the same way

1085
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 3: they would in America of like you know, the baggy

1086
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 3: the baggy jeans and like the shirt and like the

1087
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 3: Carhart jackets. I've seen car Heart way more in the

1088
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 3: last two years than I ever have in my entire life.

1089
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 3: I didn't even know it was a brand till two years.

1090
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 1: What is it, Carhart, I've never heard of that car Heart.

1091
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, also car Hat. It might be the way i'm

1092
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 3: saying it.

1093
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 1: I've never I've never heard it. I'm not even there's

1094
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: not even anything that you're saying that sounds like it's

1095
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: close to that.

1096
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 3: Mmmmm. No, that's fair, that's fair. What makes you happy?

1097
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:52,399
Speaker 5: Oh?

1098
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 3: A good book, A good book, A good book.

1099
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the last good book you've read. Are you

1100
00:51:58,480 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 4: better pull out of book?

1101
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 1: This man, by the way has a green backpack. I

1102
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 1: don't know if you can see it on the camera,

1103
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: but oh, let me see, let me see this book.

1104
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: What we got here?

1105
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 3: The rust of wild Matter, the root of wild Matter.

1106
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 1: It's chasing the history, mystery and lore of the Persian carpet.

1107
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 3: You're I think someone just followed on you.

1108
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 4: Someone just farted on.

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00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 3: Someone just lift on you. That went that they're going, now, oh, well.

1110
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 4: Good, that's see, that's that's what they do. That here,

1111
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 4: that's a blessing. It's a good see.

1112
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: I don't know any I don't know anything about Australia.

1113
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: So in that moment, you could have told me like, oh,

1114
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: that is a good that's a blessing. That means that

1115
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 1: they like you, or that you're gonna it's good luck.

1116
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: You could have told me it's good luck when somebody

1117
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: in Australia farts on you, and I would have been like,

1118
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: oh shit, hell yeah, I.

1119
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 3: Think I think on my face right now, I think

1120
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 3: if I wasn't to lie to you. The one thing

1121
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 3: you should probably know is when people say how you going,

1122
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,439
Speaker 3: that just means high how you going? Yeah, When people

1123
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 3: just say how you going, they don't actually want you

1124
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 3: to answer, like you have to extend the conversation to

1125
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:07,240
Speaker 3: tell them how you're going. That's everywhere, That's everywhere, everywhere,

1126
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 3: that's everywhere. Yeah. Oh I thought that was just like.

1127
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 4: How you going?

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00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 1: That sounds like a nervous person combining the phrase how

1129
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 1: are you doing and how is it going?

1130
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 3: I mean half the half the dialectics of Australian.

1131
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: Okay, you're reading an entire book about yes, yeah, Rsian Carpet.

1132
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1133
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 3: So I got really into like like Afghan war rugs

1134
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,399
Speaker 3: about like three months ago, and I ordered this book

1135
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 3: immediately after that because I read through the Wikipedia paid

1136
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 3: for Afghan carpets, and then I went down a bit

1137
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 3: of a rabbit hole about them, and so this is

1138
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 3: just a book about like exploring Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Iraq,

1139
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 3: Pakistan and that kind of places about like the carpet

1140
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 3: trade there.

1141
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: This should be the second.

1142
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 3: This should be the second.

1143
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, this should be the second thing.

1144
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 3: I mean, you're currently reading a.

1145
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 4: Two hundred plus page book about carpets.

1146
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 3: It's a very good book.

1147
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 1: It actually I was reading no, actually, I'm looking into

1148
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 1: it and it's like it looks like it's like a travelogue,

1149
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: like it's not just yeah, no, no, it's it's not

1150
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: just two hundred pages of carpet fans.

1151
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 3: It's got it's got yeah, it's got chapters that are

1152
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 3: like purely factual, and then other chapters but like he

1153
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 3: talks about going into I think like an Iranian hotel

1154
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 3: or something. And then the lobby, the guy turns on

1155
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 3: the TV and he was watching like pawn previously, and

1156
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 3: it comes up like a bunch of German women playing

1157
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 3: basketball naked, and it's like a little gag in there,

1158
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 3: and he's like, oh my god, those those Pakistani workers.

1159
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 3: Oh wow, Yeah, Okay, Well there's a lot. There's a

1160
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 3: lot to learn of this. There's a little excerpts about

1161
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 3: the poet Havez who Havez. He's a poet from I

1162
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 3: think a while ago that I don't remember, and like

1163
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 3: apparently it's a tradition in uh some countries to like

1164
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 3: at the start of the day, open one of Havez's

1165
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 3: book books of poetry to a a certain page or

1166
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 3: like a random page, and that's like your initiation for

1167
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 3: the day kind of thing. What do you do?

1168
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: You know any of his poems like by hope?

1169
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,359
Speaker 3: No? Oh, well, I the one I remembered, the one

1170
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 3: I've been like stuck on recently is the words you

1171
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 3: speak of the house you live in?

1172
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 4: What is the thesis of that?

1173
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 3: Well? Like, the things you say are like who you become.

1174
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 3: Like your words are quite powerful, and what you say

1175
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 3: is what you mean and what you become. And it's

1176
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 3: a bit like what you what you eat is who

1177
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 3: you are.

1178
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: What you eat is who you are.

1179
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope not or like whatever your mum used

1180
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 3: to say when you're younger, Oh you are what you eat? Yeah. Sorry, Yeah,

1181
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 3: I'm terrible. I'm terrible saying.

1182
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: Hey, you know I'm hungry jacks. Yeah, It's just Burger King,

1183
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: isn't it. Okay? I thought it was a different thing.

1184
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,240
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, it's Burger King's like really different

1185
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 3: all over the world I found.

1186
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: So you were talking about poetry, yeah for a while.

1187
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 1: You take you're talking about poetry for a while, and

1188
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 1: I paused for a second because I was like, oh shit,

1189
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how to keep up

1190
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: this conversation. Better change the topic to fast food.

1191
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 3: I can really keep up.

1192
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:14,439
Speaker 1: American before we go, Yes, what's your dream in life?

1193
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 3: What's my dream in life? Starting a record label?

1194
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 4: Starting a record label?

1195
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1196
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 1: I like how very your interests are Persian carpets, music,

1197
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:25,760
Speaker 1: war hammer.

1198
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah. I just grab on anything that seems mildly

1199
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 3: interesting and just dig deep into it.

1200
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: What kind of music do you want to make for

1201
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: this record label?

1202
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 3: Ooh, ska ska, genuinely ska and like emo, like Midwest.

1203
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 4: Emo, Midwest emo?

1204
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 3: Yeah? Are you oh yeah?

1205
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah?

1206
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 3: Like have you ever heard a glass beach? No? They

1207
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 3: do like an emo electronica jazz kind of fusion. Okay,

1208
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 3: it's pretty fun, m M with.

1209
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: As soon as you started talking about emo music, I

1210
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: was like in my head, like how am I gonna

1211
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 1: bring this around already? The boys inside my head?

1212
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 4: Are you emo? A little bit oh?

1213
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 3: Back in high school? Definitely? Okay.

1214
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 4: You seem like you seem you seem like you're doing well.

1215
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 3: Are you doing well? I'm like a bit destitute when

1216
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,919
Speaker 3: it comes to money, But aside from now, I'm doing well.

1217
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:20,919
Speaker 1: You were telling how much is your rent per month?

1218
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 3: Here? And for me the split is full ways of

1219
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:25,919
Speaker 3: five hundred bucks a week.

1220
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 1: Five hundred bucks of what what is that a month?

1221
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 3: That'd mean yeah, that'd be two grand all off a month.

1222
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: Two grand a month split by four, Yeah, so five

1223
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: hundred bucks a month times point two, what's two thirds

1224
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: of five hundred dollars? I'm converting it to United States currency,

1225
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: that's like three hundred something dollars.

1226
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 3: I hate I hate them.

1227
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 4: That's pretty good.

1228
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 3: I hate the number three.

1229
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 1: You hate the numbers.

1230
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 3: I genuinely have a scourge against the number three. If you,

1231
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 3: if you there, you can't make a hole with a

1232
00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:00,080
Speaker 3: fraction of a third. It's nine to nine nine recurring.

1233
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 1: Loves Warhammer, Persian carpets. Emo music hates the number three.

1234
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 3: I like that you grappled onto music of a sky

1235
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 3: usually people grapple onto ska music.

1236
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: There's a all right, so don't look, but there's some here.

1237
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're wondering what they're gonna ask you for.

1238
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:21,439
Speaker 1: Like they're letting me. They're letting they're not they haven't

1239
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: yet out here yet. Yeah, they're still staring at us.

1240
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: This might be the shortest episode of this I've ever done.

1241
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 3: That would be unfortunately. I mean, you could always go

1242
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 3: to a park.

1243
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: I might just go over there to the cactus. Or

1244
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: I might just post this and just be like, I

1245
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 1: talked to one guy and Perth, because you're the perfect

1246
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: guy to talk to.

1247
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 4: If I'm only going to talk to one guy.

1248
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 3: If you, if you, that'd be amazing. If I could

1249
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 3: just post, just send that to people like.

1250
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 4: Just just you, it might it might be we'll see.

1251
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,439
Speaker 1: At the end of this conversation, I'm almost like, let's

1252
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: just keep talking for another forty minutes.

1253
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 5: That way.

1254
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: I it's cool that they're I'm not looking. It's cool

1255
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: that they're letting us finish this conversation.

1256
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 3: I've got a feeling they might be asking you for

1257
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 3: a busking lasses, which I have do excellently. You're prepared.

1258
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the

1259
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: people of the computer before.

1260
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 3: We go christ uh shit, dismantled child labor in Pakistan. Sorry,

1261
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 3: I just reade about it.

1262
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: No, I don't think you're gonna get any I.

1263
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 3: Was trying to take on that. Yeah, I was trying

1264
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 3: to think of an issue in the world and that's

1265
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 3: the best, Like that's a.

1266
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: Solid issue to wherese awareness to. Here's the problem is

1267
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:37,439
Speaker 1: that the people watching this, I don't it's I guess

1268
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 1: it's nice to spread awareness about issues, but I don't

1269
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 1: know what they're gonna be able to do about it.

1270
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 3: I know there's a fellow that travels the world and

1271
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 3: does conventions where he actually talks about child labor and

1272
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 3: like specifically Pakistan. But I imagine there's some kind of

1273
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 3: like charity organizations, but you have to really research charity

1274
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 3: organizations for you send money because I know, I know

1275
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 3: in the past, like some cancel organizations just kind of

1276
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 3: pocket money and just say like we're doing stuff with it.

1277
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: Loves Warhammer, Emo music, Persian Carpets hates the number three

1278
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 1: child labor in Pakistan.

1279
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 3: I mean, child labor in general is not good, but Pakistan.

1280
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: Hates child labor in general.

1281
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 3: I'm not like everywhere else. It's fine.

1282
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 1: Tell you what I'm clip.

1283
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 3: I'm clipping occasionally. I hire children. You know, their hands

1284
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:37,919
Speaker 3: are really good for weaving. Yes, yes, I'm starting a copy.

1285
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 1: See that's something you say for the third date? What's

1286
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: your name again?

1287
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 2: What is it.

1288
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 1: Nice to meet your roan?

1289
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:47,439
Speaker 3: Like the place?

1290
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 4: Where are you late for your Did you miss your train?

1291
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 5: No?

1292
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 3: Okay, I like try and get there a bit early.

1293
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, Well, thanks for being potentially the only person

1294
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: I talked about, so awesome. Take care Rowan, Thank you brother. Hey, guys,

1295
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: it to me again. If you liked those conversations and

1296
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 1: you want to hear more from Perth, you can find

1297
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 1: the full video in the episode description of this podcast,

1298
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 1: or by looking for the video on YouTube dot com

1299
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 1: slash lyle forever, which you should also subscribe to if

1300
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 1: you haven't already. And yeah, that's the end of the podcast.

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01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 1: I hope you liked it. If you did, be sure

1302
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 1: to subscribe on whatever app you're listening to this too,

1303
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 1: so I can keep doing this in the future. Thanks

1304
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 1: for listening and letting me be a gecko and talk

1305
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 1: to people around the world. It's really cool and I

1306
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: feel I feel very honored that I get to do it.

1307
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 1: It's sweet. Hopefully there'll be many more places all over

1308
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 1: the universe that I'll get to go to be a

1309
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: gecko and talk to people, and I'll bring you guys

1310
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 1: with me, and it'll be a good time, all right,

1311
01:01:56,720 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 1: Heil say again, goes on the line taking your phone

1312
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 1: calls every night. Everything get goes through in his eye.

1313
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 1: He's teaching you clod over your life, but he's not

1314
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 1: really an expert.