1 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: This is the Jesse Kelly Show. It is the Jesse 2 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: Kelly Show. Another hour of the Jesse Kelly Show. I'm 3 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: gonna talk a little bit of nine to eleven here 4 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: in a moment. Brandon Darby's gonna join us half hour 5 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: from now. Do a lot of gang talk, cartel talk, 6 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: border talks, and stats in the news. And he always 7 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: tells us stuff we didn't know before. That some emails 8 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: the House of Representatives definitely about to screw us. Over 9 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: All that and so much more coming up this hour 10 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: on the world famous Jesse Kelly Show. And a reminder 11 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: to you, you can email me. We love your emails 12 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: Jesse at jessekellyshow dot com. Love Hey, death threats, It's 13 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: all fine. Ask doctor Jesse questions for Friday, send in 14 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: whatever you want. So set aside all the politics for 15 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: a moment. And I thought it would probably be appropriate, 16 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: because today is September eleventh, to just talk about that 17 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: day briefly, what that day was for me. I know, 18 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: we all have our own stories. If you're old enough, 19 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:25,839 Speaker 1: you remember and you can remember details about that day. 20 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: It's crazy, and I never really got when my folks 21 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: or I would have uncles or someone who would talk 22 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: about the JFK assassination, and they would talk about I 23 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: remember where I was, I was in school, I was working, 24 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: and they would remember it. And until nine to eleven happened. 25 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: I didn't get that at all because there had there 26 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: been huge events in my lifetime, huge events, but none 27 00:01:55,440 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: of them stopped time, and none of them seared their 28 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: way into my memory that I can tell you. I mean, 29 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: I can remember, well, here it was, Here's what I 30 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: was doing. I was not one of those extremely brave 31 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: souls who went to join the military after nine to eleven. 32 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: I was already in. I had already joined. I joined 33 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: in two thousand, so I've been in for a year. 34 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: I was an infantry marine in twenty nine Palms, California, 35 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: and we went on a long pt run that morning, 36 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: just a long run, calisthenics, the standard Marine Corps stuff. 37 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: There's stuff, nothing that would surprise you. But we're out 38 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: running all over like we always did. And we got 39 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 1: back to be we were in front of our barracks. 40 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: You know the barracks. It's a dorm. Just think of 41 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: it like a dorm. A lot lot crappier, but it's 42 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: a dorm. So you'll all have rooms and you have roommates. 43 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: It's the barracks and we're in front of the barracks. 44 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: That's where we stopped our run, and we're stretched in 45 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: doing some exercises, and word came down. Get up to 46 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: your room now and turn on the television. Oh, i'd 47 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: been getting I'd been given a lot of orders since 48 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: in my one year in the Marine Corps. Everyone was 49 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: always ordering you to do something because you're not in 50 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: charge of anything. I'd never been told to watch TV. 51 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: But okay, we knew something was up. But we all 52 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: ran up to the barracks. We're all sweaty, sandy, dirty, 53 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: and we turned on the television. It was CNN actually, 54 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: and when we turned it on, they must have caught 55 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: us right when it happened, because when we turned it on, 56 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: only one tower had been hit. The second tower hadn't 57 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: even been hit. And maybe maybe you were more in 58 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: the know than we were at the time, but initially 59 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: we were very confused. We were confused about what had happened. 60 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: We were confus us why we needed to be in 61 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: the barracks watching the television, because to us, the prevailing 62 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: theory in a room full of meathead Marines was some 63 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: did somebody get drunk and fly their plane into a tower, 64 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: you know, like a drunk driver, a drunk pilot. Hey, 65 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 1: who's the moron who couldn't see the World Trade Center 66 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: when he's in a plane. That was our first thought, 67 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 1: and we're all talking, how could this have happened? You 68 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: don't think a terror attack was brought up? Someone said, no, 69 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: that's gotta be intentional. Yeah, I guess I could see that, 70 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: but we didn't have any idea. We didn't have any idea. 71 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: We were watching and as we're watching it live. We 72 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: watched live as that second airliner slammed into the second tower. Okay, well, 73 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: obviously then we understood this was a coordinated terror attack. 74 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: And I don't want to act like we were okay with it, 75 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: because we were not. We were angry. I'll screw these 76 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: guys the whole we hunt them down. We were angry. 77 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: But it was certainly nothing visceral. It was No, it 78 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: wasn't as bad as you would think now in hindsight, 79 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: because the towers hadn't fallen yet. So to us, we're 80 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: watching on the screen and we just see the Trade 81 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: center buildings, both of them had big holes in them, 82 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: and it's bad. And we know people are dead obviously, 83 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: and that's bad. We're mad about that, but nothing world changing. 84 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: And then the first tower fell. I'll never forget it 85 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: as long as I live. We were the room was dead, silent, 86 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: we'd been talking the entire time, and the tower just fell. 87 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: And you remember, if you've ever seen a video of it, 88 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: which I'm sure everyone has by now, there was so 89 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: much dust and smoke and debris as it fell. It 90 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: was almost it was almost as if you're watching the 91 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: top of the tower. Not almost, it was you're watching 92 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: the top of the tower and there's this huge brown 93 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: gray smoke around it, and you just slowly watched the 94 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 1: top of the tower sink down into the smoke, and 95 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: you know it's gone. And we're mortified. We're because everyone 96 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,799 Speaker 1: everyone's doing the math in their head. How many freaking 97 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: people just died in that tower? A lot? And we're confused. 98 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: I don't understand how did it fall? Which we know 99 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: all that now. And then the second tower fell, and 100 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not much of a feely person, just 101 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: not big on that. It's not who I am. I 102 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: guess probably how I was raised, whatever I had tears 103 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: coming down my face of rage. We were we wanted 104 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: to kill somebody so bad that day. We wanted to 105 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: kill everybody. They eventually were sitting there, we're taking it 106 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: all in. What was her name, Paula's I think was 107 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: her name, Paula Zon was on CNN Blonde Chick, and 108 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: she was despondent and she was bringing the news. And 109 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: then eventually they said, hey, get down to battalion headquarters. 110 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: Battalion commander wants to see you, so our entire battalion. 111 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: We scramble. We get down to battalion headquarters and he 112 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: calls us all in and he says, hey, I haven't 113 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: been told anything about a deployment anywhere. I don't know 114 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: where we're going. I don't know if we're going, I 115 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: don't know what we're doing. But what I do know 116 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: is be ready, get yourself ready, because we might very 117 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: well get a call to go somewhere after what happened today. 118 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: And we wanted to so badly. It was all we wanted. 119 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: Just let me kill somebody for this. And I know 120 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: that sounds terrible. I don't give a crap how it sounds. 121 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: That's how we felt. We were a bunch of young 122 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: patriotic Marines, and we wanted to go murder everyone who 123 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: had anything to do with the thing. That's how we felt. 124 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: That was our feeling of the day. And of course 125 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: we didn't get that call, not at first, not for 126 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: a while. Afghanistan kicked off. And remember at the beginning 127 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: of that, that was really the that was really the 128 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: true best part of the global War on Terror, because 129 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: we were hunting in Osama bin Laden and anyone who 130 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: did that to America. We used to do this kind 131 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: of thing should be hunted down and killed in their sleep, 132 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: and that's what we were doing. In fact, we almost 133 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: had him in Afghanistan. I won't go into all the 134 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: details of that, but we sent Cia was there, Green Berets, 135 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: all the super hot guys, you know, the Bekays of 136 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: the world, the Bekays of the world. They were there 137 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: trying to hunt down that guy and kill him. It 138 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: wasn't for okay, let me see September eleventh, two thousand 139 00:08:54,640 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: and one, I think it was March of twenty twenty three. 140 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: February or March of twenty twenty three is when we 141 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: declared war on Iraq. And that's when my unit went 142 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: in Now we were in Kuwait before that, but it 143 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: was not a couple years. It was a year and 144 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: a half until we actually went somewhere. And I'll just 145 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: never forget that day. And I know you have your 146 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: own stories, felt like it was probably important on this 147 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: day to tell mine. I will leave you with this. 148 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: I'm not leaving you. We're going to keep talking about stuff. 149 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: I want to talk about the mail in stuff. We're 150 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: going to just go back to Springfield. We're not gonna 151 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: let this stuff go. We have a couple other things 152 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: we need to go into. But in New York City, 153 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: they have created a nine to eleven memorial Museum. Now 154 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: you already know that I love New York City. Love 155 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: you WLR, but I love New York City. You already 156 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: know that. But maybe you hate it. Maybe I have 157 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: no use for the big city. You're worried about crime 158 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: and all those things are valid. That's totally fine. You 159 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: know how people say you should go to Washington, d c. 160 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: Once to see the monuments and the memorials, and I 161 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: agree with that. I agree you should go visit. Don't stay, 162 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 1: give yourself three four days, go see it all and 163 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:17,599 Speaker 1: leave it. Don't come back if you ever have the opportunity. 164 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: I know money doesn't grow on trees, and I know 165 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: New York City might not be right next to you. 166 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: The nine eleven Memorial Museum is one of those things 167 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: you should do. You should do if you're in town 168 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: for a wedding, for business, for take an hour, take 169 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: two and go to the nine eleven Memorial Museum. It 170 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: is so well done. And if you have children who 171 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: maybe are too young to understand the impact of this, 172 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: as I do. My boys are sixteen and fourteen. They 173 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: weren't even alive or sixteen and fifteen. Sorry, Luke, my 174 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: boys are sixteen and fifteen. They what do they know 175 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: about nine to eleven? About snarky jokes they see online? 176 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: It's not real to them, and why would it be 177 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: the too young? It was real to them. By the 178 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: time we walked out of that memorial it was real 179 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: to them. So just the little heads up that's worth 180 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: going to. Also, I made the well, I made a 181 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: horrible mistake on the show last night. I'll explain what 182 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: mistake I made in a moment. Before I say that, 183 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: let's talk about IFCJ the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. 184 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 1: I just want you to understand something. There are places 185 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: in the world where you need a bulletproof ambulance to 186 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: guarantee you can get from your home to the hospital. 187 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: That's what it's like for people over there. You need 188 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: an ambulance that can withstand AK forty seven rounds so 189 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: you can get to the hospital. And on October seventh, 190 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: a lot of people died in ambulances. Samask guys were 191 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: killing everybody they could find, but a lot of ambulances 192 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: were able to make it to the hospitals and save 193 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: lives because they were armored. And how do you think 194 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: they got those armored ambulances? The International Fellowship of Christians 195 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: and Jews, the IFCJ. Go support them, Go stand in 196 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 1: solidarity with them, Support IFCJ dot org. It's all one 197 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: word support IFCJ dot org. We'll be back truth attitude. 198 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly, it is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Wednesday. 199 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: I hope they remember. If you miss any part of 200 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: the show, you can download the whole thing on iHeart, 201 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:49,479 Speaker 1: on Spotify, on iTunes. Brandon Darby of The Cartel Chronicles 202 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: joins us, about ten minutes from now this Venezuelan gang. 203 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: Are there other gangs. Are they merging or fighting with 204 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: American gangs. We're going to talk to Brandon about all 205 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: this stuff about ten minutes from now. I apparently screwed 206 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: up big time last night on the show, and now 207 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: I need to own it. I need to get it 208 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: out there. I called my mother on the way home 209 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 1: last night because it was my mother's birthday, and she 210 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 1: appreciated the call, and then she asked me, very appointedly, 211 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: did you wish me happy birthday on your show. I 212 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: didn't hear it, so it's not funny, Chris, it's not funny. Mom. 213 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: Mom was upset because Mom did not get a shout 214 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: out on the show. I made the terrible mistake of 215 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: trying to explain to her that people probably care a 216 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: little bit more about debate stuff and you know, national 217 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: security stuff. I tried. I tried to baby step as 218 00:13:55,440 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: best I could, explaining to her that her birthday isn't 219 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: necessarily national news, not really something that matters to everybody. 220 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: But she was not very receptive to that at all. 221 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: She did not understand. So happy birthday, Mom. It's day late, 222 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: but I just want everyone to know it was my 223 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: mom's birthday last night. Happy Birthday. Mom. All right there there, 224 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: I said it. I said it. We're good now. One 225 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: last word on the nine to eleven stuff. This is 226 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: why I adore Tunnel to Towers so much that you know, 227 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: that's when I talk to you all the time about 228 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: Tunnel to Towers. You know, that's when they started. That's 229 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: when they started. It couldn't possibly be more personal for 230 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: the Siller family. They started Tunnel to Towers because well, 231 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: that's the day firemen and cops, first responders everywhere ran 232 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: into the danger and died. And they died in droves. 233 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: One of the things you'll see at that nine to 234 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: eleven Memorial Museum. You'll see a million things there, but 235 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: firehouses there were pretty much entire firehouses were eliminated because 236 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: everyone got on duty, strapped it on, charged in and died. 237 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: So we're talking firehouses that were just emptied. Cops too, 238 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: and Tunnel to Towers from that day has dedicated themselves 239 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: to trying to care for those who are left behind 240 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: when a firefighter dies, when a cop dies, when a 241 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: soldier dies. Tunnel to Towers has been there, and I 242 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: just really appreciate this organization. I love them. I have 243 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: always loved them. I've done events with them where they 244 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: read the names of every everyone who died in Iraq 245 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: or Afghanistan. I just it's a wonderful organization that doesn't 246 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: rip people off. I love them and that's all I 247 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: wanted to say. And you should support them. It's worthy 248 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: of your support. Eleven bucks a month. You've heard me 249 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: say it a million times. Eleven bucks a month is 250 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: what they ask for tumber two T dot org T 251 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: two t dot org. So probably worth your time and 252 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: certainly worth your money. They do amazing work. Enough of that, 253 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: Enough of that for now, Thomas Massey speaking of amazing 254 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: One of the really, really good people we have in Congress. 255 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: Thomas Massey's getting us all prepped and ready for what 256 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: I've already told you is coming. 257 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 2: And we'll be honest with the American people about what's 258 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: going on here. This is political theater. I'm going to 259 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 2: call out both sides right here. It's all posturing as 260 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 2: fake fighting. We all know where it ends up. This 261 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 2: is Groundhog Day. I don't care if the Democrat is 262 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 2: the speaker or Republican is the speaker. We always get 263 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 2: a CR in September and then we get an omnibus. 264 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 2: Sometimes there's a twist on that we might get the 265 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 2: Omnibus before Christmas, but if we're not good, it comes 266 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: after Christmas. 267 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: But that's what's going to happen. 268 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 2: And in the meantime it's political theater. 269 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: I don't want to bring you down, but they're going 270 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: to pass a continuing resolution Mike Johnson today, earlier today 271 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: he tabled it for now, so it won't happen this week. 272 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: We'll deal with this next week. But Republicans are making 273 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 1: a bunch of noise about the Save Act that doesn't 274 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: really do anything either. I want to remind you that 275 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: a continuing resolution in and of itself is illegal. There 276 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: should never be a continuing resolution that is reserved for 277 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 1: emergency purposes. We are in the middle of World War three. 278 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: We don't have time for a budget fight. Just keep 279 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: spending it. Congress has an obligation to come up with 280 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 1: a budget and have a budget fight the public can 281 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: see when the public can argue over And because none 282 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: of these pieces of trash want to be held to 283 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: account for what they're doing with your money, this is 284 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: your money and your children's money, none of them want 285 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: to be held to account for it. So now the 286 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: CR The continuing resolution is just what they do every time. 287 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: It's a way of saying, well, let's just keep doing 288 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: what we were doing. Then you never have to be 289 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: held account for the billions and billion, forget billions, for 290 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: the trillions of dollars of your money. The government is 291 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: tearing through And I just want to drive this point home, 292 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: which you already know, but you have to get this 293 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: through to norm and norma and pound and pound, and 294 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 1: don't stop pounding this point home. Every dime Washington spends 295 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: now makes the cost of the things in your life 296 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: go up another billion here, a ten billion here, a 297 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: fifty billion there. It's not just nothing. It's the reason 298 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: you can afford eggs. It's the reason you can't afford 299 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 1: a house. It's the reason the value of your dollar 300 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 1: continues to go down, down down. Washington spending did that 301 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: to you, and none of the people in charge want 302 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: to do anything about it. That's a fact. And they're 303 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: gonna do that Save Act, the Save Act. As if 304 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: the Save Act is even something you could implement. It's 305 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: September eleventh, the election is less than two months away. Ridiculous, 306 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: and we won't get the Save Act anyway. Ridiculous. Mike 307 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: Johnson's probably already grabbing his ankles, getting ready for the 308 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: whole thing. Brandon Darby joins us talk Cartel stuff. Next, 309 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 1: what feeling a little stocky? Follow like and subscribe on 310 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 1: social at Jesse Kelly's show. It is the Jesse Kelly 311 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: Show on a Wednesday. I don't know who that band is. 312 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: Chris did Darby pick that song? That's a dude has 313 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: a good voice? Joining me now? Bright bart Cartel Chronicles. 314 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: You know he's your one stop shop for everything Border Cartel. 315 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: And if you've been hearing the name Trende Orragua in 316 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: the news recently, guess where you heard it first? From 317 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: Brandon Darby's mouth a long time ago. First of all, Brandon, 318 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 1: what is that ben? That dude sounded good? 319 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:25,239 Speaker 3: It's a guy named Danzig and it's a trying when 320 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 3: it was it's from the eighties of the early nineties 321 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 3: or something, and it just popped out of my mouth 322 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 3: when he asked me what song I would it. Usually 323 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 3: he picks kind of gay eighties songs, and he picks them. 324 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 3: It's what he likes to hear when he hears when 325 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 3: I'm on air, So I don't know what's going on 326 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 3: with him. I don't know, but that's okay. I support him. 327 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: I don't care. 328 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 3: It's all good. Like it's not my business, you know, 329 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 3: it's none of my business. But that's between him and God, 330 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 3: him and whomever. 331 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, Chris, you hear that you love who you love. 332 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: We're all with you, buddy anyway. Brandon, I'm certainly you're 333 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: You're a much better person than I am. So I 334 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: know you're not celebrating the fact that you called the 335 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: whole trendy Arragua thing. But it generally is bad for 336 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 1: a nation to import an entire prison gang from another country, 337 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 1: and it's not working out well for us. 338 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 3: It is not working out well. And I'm sad that 339 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 3: I'm correct, that I was correct, But you know, that's 340 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 3: what we do is we monitor transnational criminal organizations. And 341 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 3: they started showing up, and once they started showing up 342 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 3: in droves, we tried to alert the public and say, hey, 343 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 3: these guys are coming. This is going to be a 344 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 3: name that all of you will hear in the months 345 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 3: to come. Give it six months and you're all going 346 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 3: to hear this. And I think that was about right. 347 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 3: And now they're all over the news, and you know, 348 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 3: I think it's quite concerning, but they're not the only 349 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 3: criminal gang who's being imported into our country, you know, 350 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 3: like when you have you know, let's just be really 351 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 3: clear what we're talking about. During the Biden administration, in 352 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 3: the last four years, right, not even quite four years, 353 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 3: they have had over ten million people, right, call them 354 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 3: the legal aliens. I think migrants a better term for 355 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 3: some of them, illegal alien for others, depending on how 356 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 3: they got here and what have you. They had over 357 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 3: ten million people show up at our border illicitly, with 358 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 3: another two million that the US government reports were got aways, 359 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 3: meaning that they have traces that they came or they 360 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 3: saw them come in, but they couldn't get them. So 361 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 3: they have twelve million people who have come across in 362 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 3: this administration. That is a lot of people, man. And 363 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 3: I am as sympathetic as the next guy to workers 364 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 3: into people I've you know, worked with when I was 365 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 3: a teenager who worked on farms or ranches, ranches. In 366 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 3: my case, I'm very sympathetic. I understand why they come. 367 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 3: But here's the problem. Those kind of people who are 368 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 3: good people are not the only ones coming. Right, Let's 369 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 3: be very clear, even if if the numbers hold true, 370 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 3: that five percent of any group, whether it's native border 371 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 3: or people who show up illicitly across our border are criminals, right, 372 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 3: which I think the numbers actually higher in that case 373 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 3: when it comes to people who show up illicitly across 374 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 3: our border are hardened criminals. Even that would mean that 375 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 3: we have imported, you know, hundreds of thousands of people 376 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 3: into our country who are hardened criminals who should not 377 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 3: be here. So despite the fact that millions of them 378 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 3: might be nice people who are trying to work, and 379 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 3: not that even if they are nice people trying to work, 380 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 3: we have problems there too, right Like the state of 381 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 3: texasm it's public education system. It is the dirtiest thing 382 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 3: I've ever heard. I will sit with liberal friends, some 383 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 3: of whom are teachers, and they will talk about how 384 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 3: there's not enough money in the public school system. They 385 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 3: need more money in the public school system the properly 386 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 3: educate kids. And in the same breast they'll talk about 387 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 3: the fact that it's okay that hundreds of thousands of 388 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 3: students are showing up in the middle of the school 389 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 3: year who are non English speaking right into our public 390 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 3: school system, and it's like, well, you can't have both. 391 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 3: Do we have do we have the resources to help 392 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 3: these hundreds of thousands of kids who are showing up 393 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 3: in the middle of the school year from across our border, 394 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 3: or do you not have enough money? Because if you 395 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 3: do the math and you're intellectually consistent, you're admitting that 396 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 3: we are taking away from the US taxpayer, in the 397 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 3: Texan taxpayer, we are taking away from those kids' education 398 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 3: to fund the educations of hundreds of thousands of people 399 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 3: from other places. And that's you know, things get things 400 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 3: get dicey, very sympathetic. I understand why people come, but 401 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 3: at the same time, let's be very clear we have problems. 402 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 3: That's too many people. I mean, this is out of control. 403 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: Speaking with Brandon Darby Cartel Chronicles, Brandon, you mentioned you 404 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: may mentioned trendy Aragua. Obviously they're all in the news now, 405 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 1: even though I heard it from you first. But they're 406 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 1: They're not the only one who are the others? 407 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 3: Oh well, there's a okay, So Venezuela the way that 408 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 3: Venezuela is kind of structured. When you go I had 409 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 3: to get into the weeds with everybody. When Yugo Chaves 410 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 3: took over, and you had what they called the peaceful revolution. 411 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 3: Right Chavez took over. Uh, he was this rabid leftist 412 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 3: military guy, Hugo Shavas. What he did, what his administration did, 413 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 3: was he basically took the dominant criminal groups because those 414 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 3: were also the revolutionary groups, right, there's that fine line 415 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 3: between revolutionary and organized criminal. He took the dominant criminal 416 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 3: groups in every every Venezuelan state and he basically organized 417 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 3: them and brought them into his administration to help him 418 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 3: run them barrios in these states. So that is how 419 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 3: he kept order and enforced his will in these barrios, 420 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 3: which comprise millions of people in each Venezuelan state. That 421 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 3: is what he did. So each of those states. Trendy 422 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 3: Arragua is just the dominant criminal group in Ragua, right, 423 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 3: But we have other Venezuelan states and those criminal groups 424 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 3: are coming to On top of that, we're still having 425 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 3: MS thirteen go back and forth. There's tons of what 426 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 3: they call street gangs who are coming into this country. 427 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 3: We have tons of them who are here. We have 428 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 3: many that we you know with MS thirteen, Remember it 429 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 3: was people who came here and then as we deported 430 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 3: them they had become gang members here, and as we 431 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 3: deported them, that spread the gangs back to their native 432 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 3: countries right in Central America. So this is this illicit. 433 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 3: You know, if you want people to come here, and 434 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,239 Speaker 3: you want everyone world to be able to come here, 435 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 3: then you need to campaign for laws that allow that 436 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 3: to happen legally and legitimately. But you can't just say, 437 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 3: you know, to hell with your laws, We're going to 438 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 3: find in runs around it and just let everybody show 439 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 3: up and stay. You can't do it. When you do 440 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 3: it that way, you end up with what we're seeing. 441 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 3: So tons of criminal groups are coming in and it's 442 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 3: very hard to keep up with it. It's difficult to 443 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 3: keep up with the sheer numbers of different gangs who 444 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 3: have arrived in our country because of an unsecured and 445 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 3: improperly secured border. 446 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: Brandon, why aren't they at war yet? Or are they? 447 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: And I just don't see it with our home grown 448 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: criminal organizations be it. I don't care what level of 449 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: organized crime you want to go to, from the Italian 450 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: mafia to the freaking you name it, the crips, I 451 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: don't care who it is. Why are they not warring 452 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: with each other because there's only so many drugs and 453 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: prostitutes to go around. 454 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 3: Well they actually are, So what we're seeing is what 455 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 3: we like, we go to Chicago. This is something I 456 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 3: started covering and I think twenty ten or twenty eleven, 457 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 3: and what I was doing was I was just getting 458 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 3: on pacer, which is a site that you can download 459 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 3: court transcripts and court documents right back in the past. 460 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 3: And I would get there and I would I would 461 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 3: see some news release about gang members charged in Chicago 462 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 3: for murder, and then I would read through the transcripts 463 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 3: and all the court documents. It would take me a 464 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 3: day or two, and usually fourteen or fifteen page fourteen 465 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 3: or fifteen or transcripts or indictments. There would be sub 466 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 3: mentioned that they were acting at the you know, under 467 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 3: the orders of somewhat a criminal group in Mexico, and 468 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 3: I'm like, how come that's not in the news, right? 469 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,959 Speaker 3: So I started writing about these groups. So what's going 470 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 3: to happen is they're not going to take over and 471 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 3: become challengers to you know, very drug cartel from Mexico. 472 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 3: What they're going to do is they're going to become 473 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 3: allies and we're going to have what we already have. 474 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 3: We have some US street gangs who are working or 475 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 3: who are allied with Lossettas or CDN. We have some 476 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 3: who are allied with the Golf Cartel. We have some 477 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 3: who are allied with various factions of Sinaloa. And what 478 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 3: we're going to see is Trained de Arragua ultimately start 479 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 3: to ally with wherever they are. So you'll have is 480 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 3: you have some people in Trained de Arragua in California 481 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 3: who who are with, you know, the Tijuana Cartel. You 482 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 3: have some who will align with, you know, various Sinaloa groups. 483 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 3: You'll have some in Texas who are aligned with Zetto's 484 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 3: and some who are aligned with whatever. And even though 485 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 3: they're they're the same gang, they're going to ultimately, you know, 486 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 3: regionally operate on behalf of these Mexico based transnitional criminal groups. 487 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: He is Brandon Darby. Brandon, I hate to ask, because 488 00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: I didn't ask you beforehand. Feel free to say no, 489 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: do you think you could stay on? I just have 490 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: a couple other quick questions I wanted to ask you. 491 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: I would love to all right, we will be right back, 492 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: Brandon Darby gonna dig into this stuff just a little 493 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: bit more hang on truth attitude. Jesse Kelly. It is 494 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: the Jesse Kelly Show on a Wednesday, digging into all 495 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: things cartel, street gang trend a a rag while with 496 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: my friend Brandon Darby, of course, of the cartel chronicles. 497 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: If you're not reading the stuff Darby does, you just 498 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: don't know. You don't know what's going on with the 499 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: border and immigration and stuff like that. Okay, Brandon, So 500 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: I want to ask about our own more traditional criminal 501 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: organizations here and where they fit into all this, and 502 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: more specifically, I want to ask about the Italian mafia. 503 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: Where are they when it comes to working with the 504 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: cartels with street gangs. I know they contract out with 505 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: street gangs to do killings, but I know there's also 506 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: rivalries there or is the Italian mafia is so shattered 507 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: it's just nothing, it's all cartel stuff now. 508 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 3: I think it's largely shattered. I think if we were 509 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 3: to go up north, obviously there's there's probably you know, 510 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 3: trash or refuse rackets and construction rackets and all kinds 511 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 3: of other things going on in New York City. And 512 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 3: but you look at a city like Philadelphia and they 513 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 3: just got decimated, right, So you know Michael Francis who's 514 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 3: a former boss in the you know, the Italian Mob. 515 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 3: He Italian American Mob is a better accurate, more accurate description. 516 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 3: He talks about that, and they're just they decimated their 517 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 3: way of life with you know, with Rico statutes. They 518 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 3: decimated their way of life. And when people are facing 519 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 3: life in prison or a nice cushy life on the 520 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 3: witness Protection program to tell on some other people, they 521 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 3: generally picked tell on other people because they picked people, 522 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 3: pick their wife and their kids over you know, some 523 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 3: chubby guy named Vito who killed people. Right, They're always 524 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 3: going to do that. And there's a couple of exceptions. 525 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 3: I think Michael Francis's father didn't, but most of them 526 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 3: will turn and become States evidence. And they've just the 527 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 3: US authorities decimated the mob. They're much more formal, but 528 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 3: in that same sense, US authorities have decimated some Mexican cartels. Right, 529 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 3: So if we look at Loetas, especially the Golf cartel, 530 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 3: there are they powerful, yeah, but really what they are 531 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 3: is you have some factions of the Golf cartel who 532 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,959 Speaker 3: work with the Sinaloa cartel. You have some factions who 533 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 3: work with with Losettas. You know, CDN, you have some 534 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 3: factions who work with Cartel Jalisco. And even though these 535 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 3: groups are at war with each other, sometimes different golf 536 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 3: cartel groups are at war. And we've talked about this before, 537 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 3: Like for many years, US border security, especially when it 538 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 3: came to terrorism, really relied on this notion that these 539 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 3: cartels would not allow transnational tears right like international terrorists 540 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 3: to cross our border because they realized it would really 541 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 3: shut down our border and ultimately hurt their ability to 542 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 3: make profits with drugs. But then as the US government 543 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 3: and the Mexican government started going after the heads of 544 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 3: these cartels, what they were left with is a bunch 545 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 3: of young guys who don't care about tomorrow, don't care 546 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 3: about long term profit sustainability within their drug trade, who 547 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 3: will just do whatever they can to make a quick 548 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 3: buck today. And that that makes for a very dangerous 549 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 3: criminal organization. When they don't care about tomorrow, they have 550 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 3: no concern for it because they're young and they're dumb 551 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 3: in their own cocaine or whatever they're doing, it makes 552 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 3: for a very dangerous situation. So I think that's kind 553 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 3: of you know, the mob being more formal, I kind 554 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 3: of Liken. It back to wars in the past versus 555 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 3: wars now. In the past, you know, if the leadership 556 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 3: of the nation wanted to surrender, generally the nation surrendered. Nowadays, 557 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 3: if the leadership was to surrender, groups of people in 558 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 3: the country don't care. Decentralize it. It takes the Irish 559 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 3: Republican Army army model and just they break into splinter 560 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 3: groups and still do attacks and terror attacks, and it 561 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 3: doesn't matter what the formal government does. 562 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: Well. 563 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 3: With the Italian mob, it's been more like a formal government. 564 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 3: They've they've kind of taken a back seat to things 565 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 3: with these groups from south of our border. The more 566 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,280 Speaker 3: you take out the leadership, the more fragmented these criminal 567 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 3: groups become. And they don't stop so like a hydro. 568 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: So we should leave the leadership alone. 569 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 3: No, no, I don't think we should leave the leadership alone. 570 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,879 Speaker 3: I'm in favor of doubling down, tripling down, quadrupling down, 571 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 3: and just it's like you want to keep going, Let's 572 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 3: keep going. That's what I'm in favor of. I'm also 573 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 3: in favor of looking at the root causes. I don't 574 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 3: want to sound like Obama here, but looking at the 575 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 3: things that lead people to this. Right, Like, let's be 576 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 3: really clear, when when we fuel transnational criminal organizations in 577 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 3: south of Texas, when we have policies that allow them 578 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 3: to make hundreds of millions of dollars right and fuel 579 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 3: themselves these criminal groups by bringing migrants to our border 580 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 3: or legal aliens or what the hell you want to 581 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 3: call them to our border, and we're fueling the very 582 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 3: things that are causing people to flee in the first place, right, 583 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 3: causing the corruption in the first place. When we do that, 584 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 3: we are in fact exacerbating the problem when we allow Mexico, 585 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 3: when we try to treat Mexico, which is listed by 586 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 3: all world bodies as a failing nation, ex excuse me, 587 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 3: a fragile state. Not failing yet, it's one step above failing. 588 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 3: Are failed. It's a fragile state that has over half 589 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 3: of its territory under the control of transnational paramilitary criminal organizations. 590 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 3: A nation that when they want to do a federal 591 00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 3: police action, they have to use their military because these 592 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 3: groups are so powerful with RPGs and every bit of 593 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 3: weaponry that the Mexican government has. When we're dealing with 594 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 3: that nation, if we continue to treat them like they are, 595 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 3: like their government is somehow equal to us, like we 596 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 3: deal with them like we're dealing with England, or like UK, 597 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,359 Speaker 3: or like we're dealing with Canada, or like we're dealing 598 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 3: with Japan, and we treat them that way, we are 599 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 3: in fact turning a blind eye to them. So I'm 600 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 3: in favor of being very aggressive. I'm in favor of 601 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 3: not waiting for the approval of Mexico's drug cartel connected 602 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 3: leadership and just doing what we need to do to 603 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 3: protect our citizens in Mexico. That's where I come from, 604 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 3: so I'm in a very different position. So no, I 605 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 3: do not think that we should stop getting the heads 606 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 3: of cartels. I do, however, think that we half measures 607 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 3: are why we where we are. If we left them alone, 608 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 3: we'd be better off than where we are. I think 609 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 3: we'd be the best off long term if we took 610 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 3: them out by so to speak. You know, but the 611 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 3: half measures is where the trouble really comes in. 612 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, as is often the case, Brandon Darby, you are 613 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: the best, my brother, Thank you so much. Come back 614 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 1: join us soon. That was awesome. That was awesome. You 615 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: know what we're gonna need if we're gonna take out 616 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: the cartels. Testosterone, that's what Chris, that's what we're gonna need. 617 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,840 Speaker 1: You think you can be low tee and take on 618 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 1: the cartels, you can't. You need chock in your life. 619 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 1: We need a keeping helping of chalk disperse throughout the military. Seriously, though, 620 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,720 Speaker 1: we all we all need testosterone, gentlemen, we all need energy, 621 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 1: we all need focus, we all need to be in 622 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 1: good moods. 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