WEBVTT - Ep. 1054: Foundations - Why We All Need To Relearn the Same Old Deer

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundations podcast, your guide

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<v Speaker 1>to the fundamentals of better deer hunting, presented by first Light,

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<v Speaker 1>creating proven versatile hunting apparel for the stand, saddle or blind.

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<v Speaker 1>First Light Go Farther, Stay Longer, and now your host

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Peterson.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey everyone, welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundation's podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>which is brought to you by first Light. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 2>Tony Peterson. In today's episode is all about how our

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<v Speaker 2>deer populations change and what that really means for us

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<v Speaker 2>from season to season. The old ebb and flow of

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<v Speaker 2>deer populations has been a thing for as long as

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<v Speaker 2>there have been deer and deer hunters with enough mental

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<v Speaker 2>horsepower to recognize the whole thing isn't static. While a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the hunting industry shows us a view of

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<v Speaker 2>deer where the populations are not only consistent, but way

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<v Speaker 2>higher than average, the reality is that for most of

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<v Speaker 2>us we're going to deal with varying degrees of deer

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<v Speaker 2>density throughout the course of our hunting careers. This means

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of things beyond whether you might see one

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<v Speaker 2>if you're lucky, or see ten on average for every

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<v Speaker 2>one of your sits. This is something I think we

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<v Speaker 2>should all be aware of. I'm going to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>it right now. I might get into trouble for saying this,

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<v Speaker 2>but something occurred to me recently while I was fishing,

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<v Speaker 2>mostly unsuccessfully, for some muskies. I honestly don't know why

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking about it, but our culture, and all

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<v Speaker 2>of humanity's culture in various spots across the globe, is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of tied to recent ancestry. You know, if you

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<v Speaker 2>go back more than a couple hundred years, we really

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<v Speaker 2>don't know as much about our ancestors and their connections

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<v Speaker 2>to the land and their rituals, their beliefs or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Go back beyond that another couple hundred years or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>a thousand, and whatever contributions those folks made to modern

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<v Speaker 2>culture are mostly lost or have been folded up into

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<v Speaker 2>more modern interpretations. Written history hasn't been around all that long,

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<v Speaker 2>and oral history has a tendency to die off when

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<v Speaker 2>the folks who need to speak it die off. Art

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<v Speaker 2>history as a species is one of lost information, amongst

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<v Speaker 2>many other things. This is largely due to us dying

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<v Speaker 2>off in large numbers and relatively short periods of time.

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<v Speaker 2>Take China, from about nineteen fifty nine to nineteen sixty one,

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<v Speaker 2>where the Great Chinese Famine caused somewhere between fifteen and

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<v Speaker 2>thirty million people to perish in two years. That's insane.

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<v Speaker 2>The Irish famine back in the mid eighteen hundreds knocked

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<v Speaker 2>their population down to about a quarter of what it

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<v Speaker 2>was in really only about seven years, although emigration contributed

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<v Speaker 2>to that population decline as well. When the Spaniards encountered

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<v Speaker 2>the Aztecs, the indigenous populations in central Mexico declined by

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<v Speaker 2>over eighty percent in just a century. Black death in

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<v Speaker 2>Europe in the mid thirteen hundreds killed off anywhere from

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<v Speaker 2>thirty to sixty percent of the population in many parts

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<v Speaker 2>of Europe. I don't want to minimize any of those events,

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<v Speaker 2>but if you go back along our timeline deeper into

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<v Speaker 2>the past, you run into some stuff that nearly took

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<v Speaker 2>our whole species out. The Toba Supereruption, which happened about

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<v Speaker 2>seventy four thousand years ago, is one of the more

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<v Speaker 2>well known events. A volcano located in Sumatra, which is

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<v Speaker 2>an island in western Indonesia, blew its top in such

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<v Speaker 2>a spectacular and devastating fashion that it is believed to

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<v Speaker 2>have dropped the human population down to a few thousand folks.

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<v Speaker 2>Recent theories suggest it wasn't quite that bad, but still

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<v Speaker 2>bad enough to really really slow us down. Another event

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<v Speaker 2>you might have heard about, called the Younger Dryas, consisted

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<v Speaker 2>of a rapid climate shift in certain parts of the

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<v Speaker 2>world that caused regional population declines. Essentially, the northern hemisphere

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<v Speaker 2>got real cold about thirteen thousand years ago for several centuries,

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<v Speaker 2>and genetic evidence today appoints to serious decreases in human

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<v Speaker 2>populations in many regions, but not necessarily a global population collapse.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, it's not just the old Homo sapiens who

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<v Speaker 2>experience population booms and crashes. Our four legged antlered obsessions

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<v Speaker 2>do as well. We are acutely aware of these on

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<v Speaker 2>a regional basis, but mostly we focus on the decline,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, partially because when a whole bunch of our

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<v Speaker 2>bucks are suddenly no longer on the landscape, we take notice.

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<v Speaker 2>Up Here in the North Country, the likeliest culprit is

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<v Speaker 2>old man winter. You have to go pretty far north

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<v Speaker 2>to experience consistent winterkill, but you don't have to go

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<v Speaker 2>that far north to experience a once in every decade

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<v Speaker 2>or two type of winter that will knock your herd

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<v Speaker 2>back back. In the mid nineties in the upper Midwest

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<v Speaker 2>and the Northeast, we had one of those winners. From

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<v Speaker 2>Minnesota to Maine. Mortality rates of white tail herds hit

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<v Speaker 2>up to fifty percent, with young of the year fawnds

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<v Speaker 2>making up the brunt of the death toll. It happens,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's not limited to the north. In February of

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty one, a real winter storm hit Texas, and

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<v Speaker 2>one thing that the animals of the lone Star state

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<v Speaker 2>are not generally well prepared for is prolonged freezing temperatures,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly in areas with limited forage. A few years before that,

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<v Speaker 2>Hurricane Harvey hit Texas and caused severe deer losses in

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<v Speaker 2>certain coastal areas. Look if you're silently celebrating not having

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<v Speaker 2>to worry about hurricane related deer population crashes, hold your horses,

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<v Speaker 2>my little buckaroos. Many parts of the country have experienced

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<v Speaker 2>EHD outbreaks, which can make finding a target buck about

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<v Speaker 2>as difficult as finding a genuine social media post these days.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty twelve, a hell of an outbreak of EHD

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<v Speaker 2>hit the Midwest, and many Great Plain states, causing localized

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<v Speaker 2>deer populations to decline up to fifty percent in states

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<v Speaker 2>like Illinois, Ohio, South Dakota, Nebraska, and Iowa. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>hunting the Dakota's heavy during that timeframe, and I'll tell

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<v Speaker 2>you what. I found a lot of dead bucks around waterholes.

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<v Speaker 2>It was, to put it, lightly disheartening. Sometimes the deer

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<v Speaker 2>populations go the other way, though, and the density goes

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<v Speaker 2>from ten deer per square mile up to around one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty or two hundred. This is most often

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<v Speaker 2>a suburban problem where traditional management practices can't keep up

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<v Speaker 2>with a very highly adaptable species like the white tail.

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<v Speaker 2>Combining the lack of modern management options with a lack

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<v Speaker 2>of predators, and the deer will breed and breed and

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<v Speaker 2>breed and become so numerous you could probably kill them

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<v Speaker 2>with a cinderblock if you could spend enough time in

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<v Speaker 2>a tree. Deer populations change, and that should affect our

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<v Speaker 2>entire approach to hunting them. I've been thinking about this

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<v Speaker 2>a lot while fishing in northern Wisconsin, staying on the

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<v Speaker 2>water until right around dark and then driving back to

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<v Speaker 2>the shack at prime deer movement time. Is a good

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<v Speaker 2>way to get a grasp on the local herd. And

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<v Speaker 2>when you combine that with data that mymultares have been

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<v Speaker 2>sent in my way, I'm more optimistic than I have

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<v Speaker 2>been in a long long time for my hunts over there.

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<v Speaker 2>When I first started hunting there in about two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and eight, the deer population was good enough to be

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<v Speaker 2>somewhat selective on bucks. Then it got really bad four years,

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<v Speaker 2>to the point where if you saw a deer two

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<v Speaker 2>off stand you felt pretty good. Now, it seems after

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<v Speaker 2>three truly mild winners in a row, the deer are

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<v Speaker 2>kind of back. So are the turkeys too, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a nice bonus to see. But what does this mean, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>it should mean that my daughters, who have standards so

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<v Speaker 2>low they are resting on the floor, should have lots

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<v Speaker 2>of options for deer to shoot. They might get to

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<v Speaker 2>learn what it's like to be a little picky and

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<v Speaker 2>why that can change the flavor of a hunting season

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<v Speaker 2>and make it just a bit sweeter. But that's an

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<v Speaker 2>easy way to look at it, because who doesn't want

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<v Speaker 2>more deer on the landscape to hunt, especially in areas

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<v Speaker 2>that often have pretty low deer densities. Well, no one really,

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<v Speaker 2>except maybe someone who works for an insurance company and

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<v Speaker 2>whose bonus is tied directly to not paying out too

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<v Speaker 2>many claims on vehicle deer collisions. Otherwise, we are generally

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<v Speaker 2>all four more deer in the woods. But that comes

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<v Speaker 2>with a different hunting style. When the density is low,

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<v Speaker 2>your biggest job is to find them first and then

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<v Speaker 2>hunt them in a way that preserves the natural movement

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<v Speaker 2>as long as possible. Hunting low density white tails sucks,

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<v Speaker 2>but it does come with some advantages. Look, this is

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<v Speaker 2>purely anecdotal and might not be true for you at all,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm pretty convinced that there isn't a buck out

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<v Speaker 2>there who is more likely to go to a dough

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<v Speaker 2>decoy than a buck that lives in an area where

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<v Speaker 2>he has to work real hard to find any real dos.

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<v Speaker 2>In two seasons, I've watched three different bucks come directly

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<v Speaker 2>to my Dave Smith doe in Wisconsin and all died

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<v Speaker 2>shortly after. And nowhere else have I had that good

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<v Speaker 2>of a success rate decoying. It stands to reason, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, think about you know, something like when the

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<v Speaker 2>oil boom happened and they started fracking out in western

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<v Speaker 2>North Dakota about fifteen years ago, and all those young

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<v Speaker 2>roughnecks showed up in an area not known to be

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<v Speaker 2>flush with women. I bet you good money that the

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<v Speaker 2>average single woman of that region at that time had

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much her pick of the litter, if you get

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<v Speaker 2>my drift. If you think that kind of setup doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>exist in nature, you're probably wrong. A low deer density

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<v Speaker 2>situation offers another advantage, which is that if you do

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<v Speaker 2>get on some deer, you don't usually have to worry

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<v Speaker 2>too much about a lot of other deer getting downwind

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<v Speaker 2>of view and screwing up the whole thing. Look, that

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<v Speaker 2>might be thin gruel to live on, But if you've

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<v Speaker 2>ever hunted a high density situation, you know how often

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<v Speaker 2>a deer you didn't expect to be around suddenly stomped

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<v Speaker 2>and blue and generally tanked your chances. It happens all

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<v Speaker 2>the time. This might mean that you need to be

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<v Speaker 2>extra diligent with your setups when the population is high,

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<v Speaker 2>because the likelihood of non target deer getting a whiff

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<v Speaker 2>of you, or spotting you in the tree or smelling

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<v Speaker 2>your entrance route it's just way higher. It's an odds game.

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<v Speaker 2>This also has ramifications for entering and exiting your stands.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things I love to do, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>more than about anything, is summer scouting, particularly long range glassing.

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<v Speaker 2>When I do that in southeast US for Minnesota, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>always planning my escape as the evening progresses, because the

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<v Speaker 2>odds of a deer getting close to my glassing setup

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<v Speaker 2>grow with each passing minute. I often end up slipping

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<v Speaker 2>out through a cornfield or inside a wood edge well

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<v Speaker 2>before dark to not spoil the whole scene with my presence.

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<v Speaker 2>On the other hand, in an area like northern Wisconsin,

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<v Speaker 2>where if I can find a place to glass that

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<v Speaker 2>is somewhat open, I rarely worry about the deer picking

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<v Speaker 2>me off because there are so many fewer noses and

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<v Speaker 2>eyeballs to worry about. A swing in density can mess

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<v Speaker 2>with us in other ways too. Think about a high

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<v Speaker 2>density situation where you run a camera on a field

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<v Speaker 2>edge all summer long. It's a great way to get

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<v Speaker 2>some intel, but also a great way to get a

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<v Speaker 2>false read on how to kill a big one. In

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<v Speaker 2>the first week of the season. The more deer we

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<v Speaker 2>get on camera, dough, small bucks, monster bucks, the more

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<v Speaker 2>we get convinced that the spot the camera is on,

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<v Speaker 2>is the one we will kill on. But how many

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<v Speaker 2>of those deer are ones that we wouldn't shoot? And

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<v Speaker 2>what happened when they come out first and feed past

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<v Speaker 2>our stand while we wait for that bachelor group to

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<v Speaker 2>show up. Instead of drilling down on the best spot

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<v Speaker 2>to kill the biggest dude in that bachelor group, which

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<v Speaker 2>might mean getting off that field edge into the timber

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<v Speaker 2>on a specific trail, we use an active camera to

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<v Speaker 2>tell us that it's a good enough spot. The flip

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<v Speaker 2>side of that is hunting a lower density than we

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<v Speaker 2>expect and not being blown away by our camera data.

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<v Speaker 2>A deer or two a day on a camera might

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<v Speaker 2>indicate a loss cause spot in southern Iowa, but it

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<v Speaker 2>might be the best location for a stand in northern Michigan.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason I think this stuff is important to think

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<v Speaker 2>about is because it's an opportunity to be proactive with

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<v Speaker 2>our strategies, which is the opposite of how most people hunt.

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<v Speaker 2>Think about it this way. If you live in a

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<v Speaker 2>state with a real deer camp style tradition, you have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of folks who only go into their deer

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<v Speaker 2>woods maybe one or two times each year, with one

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<v Speaker 2>always being the first couple days of the season. I

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<v Speaker 2>know a lot of hunters like this, and their first

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<v Speaker 2>window into how many deer they have to hunt opens

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<v Speaker 2>the very first time they go hunting. By then, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just too late to even react to anything, because the

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<v Speaker 2>knowledge of how many deer are out there just trickles

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<v Speaker 2>in by the hour and through conversations back at deer camp.

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<v Speaker 2>By then, at least for a lot of folks in

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<v Speaker 2>that crowd, it's just too late to do anything about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Trail camera usage can certainly nullify some of that, and

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<v Speaker 2>does for some folks, but it's just hard to truly

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<v Speaker 2>understand where your deer population is at until you get

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<v Speaker 2>out there with the deer in the places they live

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<v Speaker 2>and experience the whole thing. I run into a form

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<v Speaker 2>of this population shock when I travel to hunt. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't spend time with deer in Oklahoma or North Dakota

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<v Speaker 2>or wherever until I drive out to actually hunt them,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it's a crash course in determining not only

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<v Speaker 2>where they live and like to walk, but how many

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<v Speaker 2>of them are really living there in North Dakota. This

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<v Speaker 2>has bit me in the ass a few times when

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<v Speaker 2>I've driven out with the expectation that the numbers will

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<v Speaker 2>be high and the hunting will not be super tough.

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<v Speaker 2>But the winners can mess with that, and so do

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<v Speaker 2>you know a multitude of other factors. It stings to

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<v Speaker 2>realize during the first couple of days on a trip

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<v Speaker 2>that the deer aren't there in the numbers I expected,

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<v Speaker 2>But at this point I probably should just expect it.

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<v Speaker 2>I won't, but I should. This is an easy lesson

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<v Speaker 2>to understand. If you travel enough to hunt white tails,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to experience a far flung destination through its

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<v Speaker 2>various population cycles. It's often a little harder for us

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<v Speaker 2>to grasp at home, though, which might seem counterintuitive. But

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<v Speaker 2>when we are home, we hunt largely based on memories,

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<v Speaker 2>and our memories are really good at filtering out suffering

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<v Speaker 2>and negative experiences over a long enough timeline. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>saying that we forget when we miss giant bucks or

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<v Speaker 2>go multiple seasons without killing anything, but instead that our

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<v Speaker 2>brains are pretty good at creating sizzle reels of the

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<v Speaker 2>highlights while trying, you know, not too hard to focus

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<v Speaker 2>on the low lights. So we go into this season

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<v Speaker 2>expecting something, and it's not like on opening day actually

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<v Speaker 2>get the whole thing sauced out. It doesn't work like that.

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<v Speaker 2>We try the stands and the blinds that worked in

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<v Speaker 2>the past, and when they don't, we look for reasons

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<v Speaker 2>to explain away the failures. Deer density is a moving

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<v Speaker 2>target and highly localized, so it's easy to believe that

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<v Speaker 2>the whole thing doesn't move much. But it certainly might

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<v Speaker 2>on your farm or your lease or wherever you hunt.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen that with wolves on some of my North

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<v Speaker 2>Country hunts, and boy does that make things feel real

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<v Speaker 2>tough in a hurry. Now, as I said, it goes

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<v Speaker 2>the other way too, and you can see this in

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<v Speaker 2>the poverty mindset of some hunters, yours truly included here.

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<v Speaker 2>If you've hunted long enough in enough places, you've probably

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<v Speaker 2>been through the lean years and the good years. And

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<v Speaker 2>when you are conditioned to those lean years, it can

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<v Speaker 2>be hard to adjust your standards up when the times

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<v Speaker 2>of plenty finally show. I have a good buddy like

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<v Speaker 2>that who hunts northern Wisconsin, and he'd probably you know about,

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<v Speaker 2>have to be trampled by deer on his waist to

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<v Speaker 2>the stand to even believe that it was anything other

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<v Speaker 2>than a near hopeless day. Ever, to go hunt for

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<v Speaker 2>any buck let alone, one that might be outpasses ears. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>this is sort of a litmus test for not only

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<v Speaker 2>how hard you'll have to work to kill a buck

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<v Speaker 2>that would make you happy, but how likely that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of buck is to even be in the woods with

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<v Speaker 2>you at any given moment. This is sort of like

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<v Speaker 2>a whole herd type of inventory versus just trying to

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<v Speaker 2>figure out the year's buck crops so that you can

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<v Speaker 2>start filling out your hit list. But it's also a

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<v Speaker 2>way to get better at deer hunting, because the more

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<v Speaker 2>you understand about herd dynamics and population fluctuations, the more

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<v Speaker 2>prepared you are for the inevitable out there, which is change.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing that kills most hunters chances of success on

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<v Speaker 2>any given season is that any given season is not

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a carbon copy of any other given season,

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<v Speaker 2>as much as we want it to be, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>not the nature of nature. It's not the nature of

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<v Speaker 2>white tails. You might have five years of great populations,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, good buck to dough ratios and plenty of

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<v Speaker 2>mature deer to target, and then some dry summer wear

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<v Speaker 2>a stupid little midge that carries a stupid disease that

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<v Speaker 2>kills off bucks in large numbers in the late summer

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<v Speaker 2>and early fall just does its thing. And now your

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<v Speaker 2>one forty or bust attitude might as well be a

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<v Speaker 2>two point fifty in bust attitude because both are about

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<v Speaker 2>as likely to happen, and that might echo through the

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<v Speaker 2>herd for three or four years or more, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a long time to hunt the way you used to. Instead,

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<v Speaker 2>it's better to just try to be more in tune

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<v Speaker 2>with what you're dealing with on a year to year

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<v Speaker 2>basis and understand that whether you're in a feast or

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<v Speaker 2>famine year, you have plenty of options for staying in

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<v Speaker 2>the game. And the more you try, no matter how

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<v Speaker 2>EASi or hopeless it seems, the better you'll become as

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<v Speaker 2>a deer hunter. For just that effort alone, at the

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<v Speaker 2>very least, you'll separate yourself from the pack sum which

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<v Speaker 2>is a huge advantage for us modern hunters. So think

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<v Speaker 2>about that. I think about coming back next week for

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<v Speaker 2>some more white tail wisdom. That's it for this week.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Tony Peterson. This has been the Wired to Hunt

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