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We have a lot coming 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:13.959 up today. One of our big stories today is, of course, 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:19.080 the well intramural battle fight over the healthcare bill. I 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:21.640 saw all of this coming. It's infuriating to me because 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:24.800 it didn't need to happen this way. We'll check in 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:28.080 with Congressman Jim Jordan, Congressman Dave brad of the Freedom Caucus. 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:31.200 Dr Josh Umber will join us. The Vice President will 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:33.080 be checking in one hour from right now. In the 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:36.039 second hour of the program. UH and Culture will also 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:39.280 weigh in today. And we've got two award winning journalist. 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:41.679 John Solomon was with the a P for twenty years. 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:46.600 Sarah Carter was with the Washington Times. Along with John Solomon, 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:49.280 they have a blockbuster story that I'm gonna share with 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:51.600 you in in just a couple of minutes, so stay tuned. 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:56.280 I want to start with this healthcare debate and frustration 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:59.400 that I feel and that I have, and why I 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:06.280 believe this rollout was not handled properly. And look, at 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:08.000 the end of the day, do I think it's all 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:11.200 gonna probably work out? Are we gonna get a repeal 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:14.000 and replace? Are we gonna get a better health care system? 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:16.840 Are we gonna undo the mess of Obamacare? None of 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:20.079 the promises kept, keep your doctor, keep your plan, save 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:23.840 a year. Yeah. I do believe that we're gonna get there. 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:26.480 But in the lead up to all of this, this 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:29.640 is one of the most important pieces of legislation. And 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:35.040 here's what I don't understand, and and I'll say this respectfully, 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:38.799 but I'm really annoyed about it, respectfully, the fact that 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:43.840 eight years later that this has been there, they're rallying 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:48.000 cry to win the win control of the House in 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:52.880 and then moving further and getting control of the Senate 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:57.920 and getting the presidency in t and that there's not 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:02.920 a consensus bill, and that I guess in my world, 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:04.760 the world I live in and the way I run 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:08.160 my life knowing and we had put all these people 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:12.160 on beforehand that never saw the bill, but we're hearing 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:15.560 about the bill and their concerns about the bill. In 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:19.160 other words, does it really fully repeal Obamacare? Well, that's 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:21.919 one of the arguments that was used all day yesterday, 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:25.120 or that it has a new entitlement which is subsidies, 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:29.880 or it's not block granted, but but tax um credits 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:31.560 that are given to people so they can afford to 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:35.040 buy their own health insurance. Now health care savings accounts 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:37.440 are included. Money is not going to planned parenthood. There's 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:39.240 all the things that I said yesterday that are good 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:42.520 about the bill, that everybody agrees on. But here's my problem. 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:46.440 Now here, just just imagine, in my own twisted mind, 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:50.400 I actually think that Washington can work this way. Maybe 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:54.760 all of the people in the Freedom Caucus, the Study Group, 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:58.520 the people now that are angry, these these conservative groups 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:03.520 like Club Club for Growth and and Americans for Prosperity 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:07.400 and Freedom Works and Heritage Foundation and the Heritage Action Group, 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:11.000 And then you have Senator Ram Paul and Ted Cruz 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:14.240 and Mike Lee and and then you have Congressman Louis 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:18.000 Gohmert and Congressman Mark Meadows and Dave brad and Jim 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:21.400 Jordan's and and so many others. They were all saying 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:24.080 what they were going to disagree with before the bill 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:27.760 ever got released. And I remember, and I won't tell 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:29.560 everybody who I talked to. But I told a lot 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:31.120 of people, I said, you need to get everybody in 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:34.000 the room. And wouldn't it have been better instead of 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:37.600 having a public fight among Republicans over the repealing and 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:40.760 replacing of this bill, if they had gotten together, worked 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:43.640 out their differences, and maybe the way it was rolled 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:47.960 out would be a big monumental ceremony with every Republican 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:50.800 in the House, every Republican in the Senate. The President 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:54.680 gives a speech, he outlines what's in the consensus bill 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:57.440 of Republicans, how they are going to do it, and 0:04:57.480 --> 0:05:02.080 how it's gonna benefit you, the American people. Instead, if 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:04.800 the bill was marked up, nobody knew what was in it. 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:06.560 Then when they found out what was in it, it 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:08.960 was the very things they would suspicious we were going 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:11.000 to be in it. And now you've got the Freedom 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:13.200 Caucus against it. And they went out and they had 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:16.680 a press conference yesterday, and Ram Paul was with them yesterday, 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:19.360 and Ted Cruiz is against the bill. All those groups 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:22.040 that I just mentioned, they're now having to be talked 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:25.560 into the bill. There's all these discussions about the president 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:28.039 having the strong armed people and used the power of 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:30.960 the presidency and the pulpit to get this thing rammed through. 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:34.600 We don't want it rammed through, you know. I just 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:38.360 would have hoped that after eight years of Republicans running 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:41.159 on this, that they'd have their their darn act together 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:43.479 and they'd get a bill that they all agreed on 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:47.360 that would fix the problem, using all the principles of conservatism, 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:52.960 free markets, from healthcare savings accounts, maybe even being as 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:56.200 innovative as our buddy Dr Number and and bringing him 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:59.479 into the mix and creating cooperatives. You know, he has 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:03.320 what doctors in his practice, Each doctor has six hundred patients. 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:05.760 Every patient gets to see the doctor any day. They 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:09.520 want unlimited care, unlimited checkups. If you get stitches, you 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:11.360 get them there. If you need medicines, you get them 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:15.640 there at discount. If you need chemotherapy for crying out loud, 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:19.279 they'll give you those drugs for discount, which, by the way, 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:23.200 they're very expensive. Because he went directly to the pharmaceutical 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:26.039 companies and said, we've got a big practice and we 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:29.000 want to negotiate individually with you to get the rates 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:32.599 down for our patients. There's so many different things, and 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:34.640 I'm not saying these things aren't gonna happen. I'm just 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:39.799 saying they just they just made themselves a huge creative 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:43.040 for themselves a huge headache. And this to me is 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:47.680 an unforced error. And now you've got everybody in the 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:50.919 media that is now fighting over this, you know, in 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:54.880 the public in public view. It's an internal intramural you 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:58.800 know many civil war within Republican ranks when it need 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:01.880 not have gone down on this way. It could have 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:06.479 been handled differently, It could have been handled behind closed doors. 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:11.760 Get it right, get together, unify, come out with a plan, 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:16.080 and celebrate your great success as one. Now maybe there's 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:20.040 five people that say, no, okay, you can't please everybody. 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:24.240 There's no way when you're doing legislation that everybody's gonna 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:26.440 be happy. At the end of the day. It's good, 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:28.520 you know, as as new Gig Ridge describes it, just 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:31.800 here's a box. Within the box, you have health care 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:35.160 savings accounts, you have healthcare cooperatives, you have full repeal 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:38.720 in there. Um, you have a means of somehow block 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:41.280 granting money to states so they take care of those 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:44.320 people that have no money cannot afford healthcare that we're 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:47.400 never gonna turn away the truth. That's the reality. That's 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:50.080 just a fact that they're gonna need help. That has 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:52.560 to be factored in. Okay, And the President made that 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:54.720 promise that nobody's gonna be laying in the street. I 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:57.000 don't think the President means to go back on his promise. 0:07:57.600 --> 0:07:59.920 So I just think there was a better way to 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:03.520 handle this, a better way to roll this out. I 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:05.640 think that, you know, I don't know how long this 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:09.200 battle goes on. Now, there's meeting after meeting after meeting 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:12.400 with this individual group and and that individual group. And 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:15.160 now it's taken the president's time, the Vice president's time, 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:18.200 it's taking, you know, the time away from putting a 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:21.120 budget together. They're gonna have two budgets put together. And 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:23.800 I just, you know, I'm just saying, I just I 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:26.800 don't roll this way. That's not how I do things. 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:31.200 I I just don't understand. This is so unnecessary on 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:34.080 so many different levels. Now, yeah, there's a good chance 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:38.559 they'll get it right. But they come off as being unprepared, 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:43.000 they come off as not knowing what they're doing. And 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:46.160 they had eight years to build a consensus plan that 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:51.080 everybody would be satisfied with, not completely satisfied but something 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:55.439 that everybody would would deal with and that would serve 0:08:55.920 --> 0:09:00.440 their public servants, the American people, And I think it 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:03.200 would have been a hell of a lot better than 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:08.559 the NonStop battles that are now gonna go on. I 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:11.920 I'm I'm naive, right, Linda, I'm naive. This couldn't have 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:14.640 possibly happened the way I say, right, There's no way 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:17.040 they could have done this beforehand, because at the end 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:18.600 of the day, if a bill is gonna pass, they're 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:21.679 gonna need the Freedom Caucus. They're gonna need Cruis and 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:24.840 Lee and Rand and Rubio in the Senate. Am I 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:27.320 write about that? So maybe it would have been a 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:29.960 good idea. Maybe if the Club for Growth supported it, 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:32.840 and the Heritage Action Group supported it, and Americans for 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:36.480 Prosperity supported it, and Freedom Work supported it, all strong 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:41.079 independent conservative groups. Maybe not all. Let's say three of 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:43.160 the four or three or four of the five, whatever 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:46.040 the group's number happens to be. Maybe they if they 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:48.440 came out and praised the bill and said this, this, this, this, 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:50.800 and this that this is what we've been waiting for, 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:54.599 it would have maybe caused fewer headaches, given the Democrats 0:09:54.679 --> 0:10:00.040 less ammunition against the Republicans, and I don't think. I 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:03.320 don't know how this gets resolved at this point. You know, 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:06.440 my answer would be throw everybody in a room, bring 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:09.280 the Freedom Caucus. Oh, this is how I do things. 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:11.760 You got a problem, Just get in my office, close 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:15.080 the door, lock it. That's what I'll do. Lock the door, 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:18.480 take everybody's phone away. There's no better negotiator in the 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:21.560 country than the president. Let him negotiate right there. Nobody 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:24.960 leaves that room until they all agree. How's that? And 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:27.040 it has to be on the principles and the promises 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:32.080 that they all made when they ran what since against Obamacare, 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:36.960 that's seven years ago. It's just it's just unfathomable to 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:41.960 me that this was not produced earlier, that this wasn't 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:46.840 read until it was released two nights ago, and now 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:49.480 you have all the opposition coming out and they were 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:51.800 all telegraphing their opposition. It's not like we didn't know 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:53.360 they were going to be opponents of the bill. If 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:55.400 it was what they were saying, what they were hearing, 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:59.160 what they were believing. I you know, my job here 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:01.560 is to hold them a countable. Well, they made a 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:06.439 pretty stupid This is a pretty dumb way to on 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:11.400 unveil or roll out a bill. So I think they 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:14.400 can get there. Yeah, but you better get like fifty 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:17.680 tho bottles of Eccentric extra strength because it's not gonna 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:20.240 be easy and you might as well have done it 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:25.200 beforehand rather than doing it publicly. I get that this disagreements. 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:29.000 No two people are alike in the Republican Party, but this, 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:31.480 to me was the worst possible way to put it 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:35.080 out there, to roll this thing out. All those people 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:37.280 were on this program telling me exactly what they didn't 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:39.360 want to have in the bill, and that's exactly what 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:42.920 I ended up in the bill. And what do I do? 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:45.840 I I you know, I I feel like bagging my 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:49.120 head against the wall because I was telling everybody to 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:53.000 get together and meet and talk and resolve and fix 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:58.360 and make it right. It's not that complicated. Repeal the 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:01.440 old bill, replace it with a market solutions that include 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:05.760 healthcare savings accounts, cooperatives. Uh. Maybe the government now goes 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:10.559 to pharmaceutical companies. Maybe they buy like Atlas m D 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:15.840 and Wichita, Kansas is doing. Maybe they buy the pharmaceuticals 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:19.520 that if Josh Humber can get it for off. I'm 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:22.320 not sure if that includes see Allis and Viagora, but whatever, 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:25.080 but they buy all the major medicines. All right, your 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:28.120 left the sea Allis ad is my favorite. Two people 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:33.120 and two separate tubs. How does that work? That? That 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:36.640 that's gymnastics that I can't even conceive of. That is 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:40.599 the dumbest dad I've ever seen in a She's in 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:44.280 her tub, he's in his tub. Anytime you're ready? What 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:46.240 is one person moved to the other tub and they 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:49.240 just leave it with the two tubs individually? There who's 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:51.600 tub gets picked? That could be a big fight among 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:53.800 a couple. No, you come to minctub. No you come 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:55.720 to nctub. I'm not going to your tub. Your tub 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:57.679 does dirty water in it. You come to my tub. 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:01.400 Mine tubs cleaner water. I have roses in my water. 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:05.360 And it's just it's so dumb. But if Josh Humber 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:09.160 Dr Rumber, I'm glad. I'm I'm cracking everybody up. If 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:11.679 he can get the pharmaceuticals and for all the major 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:16.280 drugs including chemotherapy drugs and blood pressure medicine and diabetes 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:21.000 and insulin, and he can get cholesterol medicine and anxiety medicine, 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:23.560 I mean, we have pills for everything, Pills to wake up, 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:26.560 pills to sleep, pills to be skinny, pills to be fast. 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:30.160 I mean, it's ridiculous. We got pills for everything, happy pills, 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:36.400 not happy pills. It's amazing how many pills people take. Crazy, 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:42.120 It's nuts. Anyway, one Sean way, do you hear? I'll 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:46.800 give you a preview that in fact confirms what we've 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:49.839 been saying, that a FISA warrant was issued in October. 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:55.160 Donald Trump was right, surveillance took place. Now, he said, 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:58.480 why are tapping? The New York Times said wire tapping. 0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:02.679 But it's really surveillance of the computer server Trump tower, 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:07.199 and we have confirmation of that today and those authors 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:08.480 will be with us in the final hour of the 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:13.880 program Today fighting the Trump eighty liberal media One day 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:37.520 at a time is the Sean Ny Show. M So, 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:40.320 I wanted you to follow me, and I'm gonna set 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:42.000 this up and then we'll take it into the next 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:46.600 half hour. So headline today by John Solomon, twenty year, 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:52.720 a p Washington Examiner reporter, well known Sarah Carter, same thing, 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:57.800 FBI monitored computer server and Trump tower at the end 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:02.680 of the election. No Chris mental charges expected. Well wait 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:06.920 a second, so President Obama says he didn't order it, 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:10.640 but that they confirm in this report. I'll give you 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:15.440 a summary. They confirm the Fieser warrant in their reporting, 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:21.560 citing US officials, intelligence professionals who they are describing as 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:24.600 watching in horror. As they say, I've never seen a 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:27.800 case so misrepresented, leaks so damaging to a process that 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:30.040 was meant to be conducted in secret, so that foreign 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:34.440 powers don't know what we know and people's reputations aren't 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:40.240 tarnished unfairly. He is saying that everything in the media, 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:44.000 left wing, all propaganda media, destroy Trump at all costs, 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:49.920 media said to you, this article contradicts that there is 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:56.520 no evidence whatsoever. In other words, Hannity right again, mainstream 0:15:56.560 --> 0:16:02.200 media wrong again. And in fact, yes, there was surveillance 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:06.400 at Trump Tower, they confirm and corroborated. They confirm it 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:11.840 wasn't technically a wire tap. But the New York Times, McClatchy, 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:15.440 BBC all the initial reporting that said wire tap, Well 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:18.080 it depends. Now we're parsing words. Does wire tap mean 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:23.600 surveillance on the server in Trump Tower? Could it be 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:26.600 the same server where I know for a fact that 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:31.800 every single Trump surrogate during the campaign was using a 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:37.320 Trump organization email. How do I know because I emailed them, 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:40.040 So I guess my emails were surveilled to great can't 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:45.160 wait to them a public I no, I can't making 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:50.880 public go ahead, And that the Russian narrative was never 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:55.680 really the focus at all, and that this narrow allowance 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:58.440 that you know, and you gotta think back. Remember Hillary 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:01.360 tweeted it out a week before the election. Remember the 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:05.200 letter from Harry Reid just before the election. Remember all 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:10.120 the associations, they were tipped off. They knew what was happening, 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:14.600 and they knew the investigation going on, and they wanted 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:18.240 it leaked. And they had people within the intelligence community 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:21.560 telling them when we come back, I'm gonna tear this 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:25.640 apart and we're gonna tie it to the Wiki leaks 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:29.040 revelations from yesterday. Because I think there's a connection. One 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:31.480 of the big developments that I see in that well 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:34.400 that was actually a headline on I think Bright part 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:39.560 today c i A uses stolen malware to attribute cyber 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:44.159 attacks to other nations like Russia. Could this all have 0:17:44.200 --> 0:18:13.879 originated in our own government? Accountable Sean gets the answers. 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:19.240 No one else does. America deserts and know the truth 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:24.400 about Congress. Now till the top of the hour. Now 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:26.479 we're gonna have an exclusive interview, and I have an 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:29.399 early copy, and I'm told I'm allowed to share it 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:32.359 because it's just breaking John Solomon, I said, when I 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:34.919 said the Washington Examiner, he's really He spent years with 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:39.200 the Washington Times, as did Sarah Carter, and John Solomon 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:42.159 worked for the AP about twenty years. So they have 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:45.960 a column out today. FBI monitored computer server and Trump 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:48.800 Tower at the end of the election, but doesn't expect 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:52.399 criminal charges. Well, I thought, wait, first of all, we 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:56.000 didn't know it happened. Donald Trump falsely said that he 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:59.280 was being surveilled or that he was wire tapped. Now, 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:02.040 what's the different if if you find out a sitting 0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:07.440 president and his administration saw its FISA approval and FISA 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:12.760 warrants to surveil and opposition candidate in the middle of 0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:16.679 a presidential campaign. I want to know what did they know? 0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:20.280 Did Loretta Lynch approved this? She would have had to. 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:23.960 You know, Loretta Lynch who met with Bill Clinton and 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:26.560 the tarmac and they talked about their kids for fifty minutes. 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:28.560 Who talks about their kids for fifty minutes? With all 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:30.840 due respect to your kids? How are your kids? They're 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:34.920 doing really good, Susie's doing well, she's playing lacrosse. Johnny 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:38.000 just got into such and such college, and and he's 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:41.119 really happy, and or they broke their leg and and 0:19:41.119 --> 0:19:43.720 they're healing, or you know, whatever it is. Does that 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:47.920 go on for thirty minutes? No? No, I mean it's 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:49.760 like half the time when people asking hey, how are 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:52.080 you doing? They don't really want you to say I'm awful, 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:54.680 I'm having a crappy day. Yeah, what they want you 0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:56.920 to say, I'm good? How are you? And then they 0:19:56.920 --> 0:19:59.840 say I'm good? What's going on? Then that nobody wants 0:19:59.880 --> 0:20:02.840 the answer. We're so wrapped up in them ourselves. It's 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:06.119 it's just nonsense, you know. That's why everybody you know 0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:10.000 talks about well, other people of different sexual orientation. I did, 0:20:10.240 --> 0:20:13.200 like I care. I don't care about anybody's sex life. 0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:17.920 It's at my own, that's it. They have. Seriously, I mean, 0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:22.200 it's ridiculous people think that they actually care anyway. Putting 0:20:22.200 --> 0:20:25.040 that aside, I digress. So they wrote this piece. Let 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:27.600 me read some of it to you. The months long 0:20:27.720 --> 0:20:32.640 FBI counterintelligence investigation into Russian efforts to influence the US 0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:38.400 election briefly monitored a computer server inside of Donald Trump's 0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:42.800 office building near the end of the election. Let me 0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:46.760 let me stop there. So there was a in fact, 0:20:46.800 --> 0:20:50.439 a surveillance that took place inside a Trump tower in 0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:54.639 his office. And it wasn't officially a wire tap. What 0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:57.080 do you call it when you're surveilling the server of 0:20:57.080 --> 0:21:03.800 a presidential candidates company. Anyway, it goes on and um 0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:06.320 at the end of the election, but has gathered, but 0:21:06.400 --> 0:21:10.480 has not gathered evidence to warrant any criminal charges at present. 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:15.680 In other words, everything the media has been hyping, hyper 0:21:15.800 --> 0:21:23.160 ventilating over, hysterically reporting, apparently none of it's true. According 0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:27.120 to John Solomon and Sarah Carter and Circa dot com, 0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:31.160 which is their website. Now, US officials, who spoke only 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:33.760 on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature 0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:38.960 the information, said there is widespread frustration among intelligence professionals 0:21:39.000 --> 0:21:42.760 who have watched in horror as a normally secretive process 0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:47.800 has now been distorted by media leaks and politicians uneducated 0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:52.000 about how counterintelligence operations actually work. Well you know, with 0:21:52.040 --> 0:21:55.480 all due respect, the leaks are severe. The leaks ruin 0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:59.480 the career and hurt the reputation of General Flynn. What 0:21:59.560 --> 0:22:03.240 happened to him was a thousand percent a felony and 0:22:03.320 --> 0:22:06.920 a violation of the Espionage Act because while they were 0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:10.720 using surveillance against the Russian ambassador, which they're supposed to do, 0:22:11.280 --> 0:22:14.560 once an American is identified on that call, they're supposed 0:22:14.600 --> 0:22:16.840 to minimize. Now you might say, well he had security clearance. 0:22:16.840 --> 0:22:19.520 Because he had security clearance, it makes it legitimate. Okay, 0:22:19.560 --> 0:22:23.480 if they did, it's unprecedented that they would leak the conversation. 0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:28.399 Usually standard operating procedure is such that if they an 0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:33.159 Americans picked up on an intelligence gathering you know, signal 0:22:33.800 --> 0:22:37.639 UH monitor such as that, then they say in in 0:22:37.720 --> 0:22:40.400 their actual righte up of the conversation, they will say 0:22:40.400 --> 0:22:44.240 an American, Okay, he had top security clearance. Maybe he's different. 0:22:44.800 --> 0:22:46.520 And then it said we have people spouting off and 0:22:46.560 --> 0:22:49.520 don't know the difference between fiser surveillance and a wire 0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:53.960 tap or counterintelligence probe. I explained the difference earlier Michael 0:22:54.160 --> 0:22:58.800 uh Andrew McCarthy's piece versus a special prosecutor criminal case 0:22:59.200 --> 0:23:03.439 and it is hurt our ability, meaning intelligence the intelligence 0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:06.120 community to get to the truth, and has wrongly created 0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:09.960 the impression that intelligence officials have a political agenda. Well, 0:23:10.000 --> 0:23:12.440 there's some of the intelligence community that have an agenda, 0:23:13.000 --> 0:23:15.200 and I don't want to just like you get an 0:23:15.200 --> 0:23:18.520 occasional bad cop. Doesn't mean all cops are bad. I 0:23:18.680 --> 0:23:22.399 support police officers. I admire them. They serve their communities, 0:23:22.400 --> 0:23:27.320 They risk their lives. People involved in intelligence similarly risk 0:23:27.440 --> 0:23:31.359 their lives often times, and they're doing deep, deep undercover 0:23:31.440 --> 0:23:34.320 corvert operations. Is not a game. This is about life 0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:38.720 and death and securing the homeland. It's not a game intelligence. 0:23:39.240 --> 0:23:42.639 But if people are leaking sensitive information in part because 0:23:42.640 --> 0:23:45.280 the president changed the rules as walking out the door, 0:23:45.320 --> 0:23:48.440 it's a problem. And anyway, it goes on to say 0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:51.280 many of the leaks have surface since President Obama and 0:23:51.359 --> 0:23:54.640 his waning days in office, signed an executive order. They're 0:23:54.640 --> 0:23:57.119 referring to Executive Order twelve three three three. What he 0:23:57.160 --> 0:24:00.800 did is put an addendum on there which vastly expanded 0:24:00.800 --> 0:24:03.720 the number of federal agencies and workers with access to 0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:08.000 this sensitive surveillance. In other words, if there if they 0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:13.080 are monitoring the Russian ambassador and they're monitoring his phone call. 0:24:13.880 --> 0:24:16.600 It used to be that very few people would ever 0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:20.280 have access to that information. But because Obama two weeks 0:24:20.320 --> 0:24:24.280 before he left redid Executive Order twelve three three and 0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:27.680 allowed that that secret information to be shared with sixteen 0:24:27.720 --> 0:24:31.240 other agencies, it means it's in a million people's hands. 0:24:31.320 --> 0:24:33.680 Now why would that matter? Because it makes it more 0:24:33.720 --> 0:24:37.120 difficult to find out who the leaker is. That's what's 0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:40.040 so stats when I say shadow government, deep state. Now 0:24:40.119 --> 0:24:43.480 you understanding where I'm coming from here. Those leaks have 0:24:43.640 --> 0:24:47.800 created a false narrative that the FBI has been predominantly 0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:52.280 focused on Trump's ties to Russia. Officials said, in fact, 0:24:52.800 --> 0:24:57.399 any FBI activity involving the president's associates or advisors was 0:24:57.600 --> 0:25:02.520 mostly ancillary to a wider counterintelligence probe into Russian efforts 0:25:02.520 --> 0:25:06.119 to influence the election or curry favor with US figures. 0:25:06.640 --> 0:25:10.600 He wasn't the target. In other words, everything that has 0:25:10.640 --> 0:25:15.600 been reported is false. According to this report, the Trump 0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:19.400 Russia narrative and the media has not been our primary 0:25:19.480 --> 0:25:24.400 focus and mostly involves pieces of information that came out incidentally. 0:25:25.160 --> 0:25:27.960 We check item, we'll check an item out, we move on, 0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:32.840 adding most of the work is involved old fashioned investigative tactics, 0:25:33.040 --> 0:25:36.480 not surveillance. But in this case, there was surveillance of 0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:40.000 Trump Tower and one of their primate servers. And I 0:25:40.080 --> 0:25:43.320 know because I emailed during the campaign everybody that was 0:25:43.359 --> 0:25:46.080 working for Trump, all the people you know, Kelly Anne 0:25:46.160 --> 0:25:50.240 and and Hope pix and and Corey Lewin DAW's getting 0:25:50.240 --> 0:25:54.399 they all had Trump email addresses, Trump organization email addresses. 0:25:54.680 --> 0:25:56.679 Is this the server that was connected that they were 0:25:56.680 --> 0:26:00.840 spying on surveilling? Why are tapping us? The New York Times, 0:26:00.840 --> 0:26:03.520 I'll use the New York Times. They wire tapped it 0:26:03.800 --> 0:26:08.159 because that's what they said. Trump is right. This article 0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:12.680 says he is correct, and there's no way on God's 0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:17.840 green Earth that Obama and his surrogates didn't know about it. Anyway, 0:26:17.840 --> 0:26:21.840 added another official, I've never seen a case so misrepresented 0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:25.200 and leak so damaging to a process, that process that's 0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:28.359 meant to be conducted in secret, so foreign powers do 0:26:28.440 --> 0:26:34.800 not know what we know and people's reputations aren't tarnished unfairly. Oh, 0:26:34.840 --> 0:26:39.159 you mean, like General Flynn President Trump by a media 0:26:39.480 --> 0:26:44.400 all left propaganda destroyed Trump at all costs. Media, of course, 0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:47.280 they want to destroy him. Several sources that goes on 0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:50.280 with direct knowledge of the FBI's interest in investigating possible 0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:55.320 Moscow efforts to influence the election was born out of 0:26:55.359 --> 0:26:58.640 its long expertise on Russian players, gathered back from two 0:26:58.640 --> 0:27:02.560 thousand and one and Robert Hansen and the espionage affair 0:27:02.600 --> 0:27:06.800 in the and a Chapman spy ring scandal. Other intelligence 0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:10.520 agencies were also gathering similar evidence highlighting Russian activity like 0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:13.760 computer hacking and propaganda. Well, we know that we spy 0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:16.959 on them. We hacked them, they hack us, and it's 0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:20.760 just the way the world rolls. Now. The Bureau it 0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:24.399 goes on along with other intelligence agencies at early signs 0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:30.320 of politically motivated hacking by Russia and uncorroborated information from, 0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:34.320 among others, the former British intelligence officer about possible contacts 0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:37.680 between the Russian intelligence and people close to Trump. By 0:27:37.720 --> 0:27:41.360 the way, that's the dossier that CNN and BuzzFeed ran 0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:45.040 with that talked about Trump. May they may have compromising 0:27:45.080 --> 0:27:47.560 information that he had hookers and the Ritz Carlton that 0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:51.960 was you know, peeing all over the bed, urinating over 0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:56.000 the bed. If that offends you, really, Donald Trump the 0:27:56.080 --> 0:28:00.639 germ fobe not happening, so ridic lists and it was 0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:04.720 proven to be false anyway, And it says there were 0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:08.280 indicators Russian activity on corroborate, corroborated, blah blah blah blah, 0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:12.760 associate allegations of Trump associates having contacts with key figures. 0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:14.760 We needed to know if they connected or not. One 0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:18.119 source said, we'd be remissed if we did not answer 0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:21.439 that question for the national security community. They found nothing. 0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:24.920 Officials decided the best course of action was pursue a 0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:29.640 classic counterintelligence investigation focused on what the Russians were actually doing, 0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:32.280 whether anyone in the US, including the Trump team, might 0:28:32.280 --> 0:28:36.960 be encouraging or facilitating those actions or financially benefiting from them. 0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:40.520 One of the documents that agents tried to corroborate became 0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:44.040 known as the Trump Dossier, the work of this trusted 0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:46.920 ex British intelligence agent. By the way, the FBI wanted 0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:50.720 to pay this guy, hired by political operatives to find 0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:54.600 damaging evidence on Trump in Russia. Some of the information 0:28:54.600 --> 0:29:00.000 in the dossier was explicit and salacious and keyword uncorroborated. 0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:03.440 It like an alleged interlude between Trump and a prostitute 0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:06.280 in Moscow a few years back, and an alleged Russian 0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:10.240 bribe that could have spelled uh millions of miss that 0:29:10.280 --> 0:29:13.120 would have meant millions and billions of dollars for Trump's companies. 0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:16.400 None of it was true. Trump wasn't in a bed 0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:20.440 with hookers that were urinating in the bed, but CNN 0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:26.840 breathlessly reporting when puzzfees reported, so sick, what these people do? 0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:29.800 You think I'm wrong in saying they're all left propaganda 0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:32.560 destroyed Trump at all costs media. That's who they are. 0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:35.600 They're all hacks, they're all lazy, and they're all agenda 0:29:35.720 --> 0:29:39.960 driven on top of being overpaid. Agents were able to 0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:44.120 corroborate some details in the dossier, mostly public source intelligence 0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:49.240 in other words, already available about meetings and decisions involving 0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:52.760 Russian figures, but much of the information about Trump and 0:29:52.800 --> 0:29:57.479 associates could not be corroborated, and some was disproven, and 0:29:57.520 --> 0:30:02.640 other facts took new connotation when additional investigation was concluded, 0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:05.440 in other words, that found nothing. Then, it says the 0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:09.720 FBI Justice Department requested and received a FISA warrant to 0:30:09.840 --> 0:30:13.560 monitor a specific computer server inside of Trump Towers. Trump 0:30:13.600 --> 0:30:18.640 is right. They surveiled him. The pises story is corroborated 0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:22.160 by their sources as being true. The towers is the 0:30:22.200 --> 0:30:26.360 home of Trump's business, personal residents, and then campaign headquarters. 0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:30.840 The court approved defies the application. As we said in October, 0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:35.880 weeks before an election. That's the opposition party. Do you 0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:40.240 understand how dangerous this is, including just as the election 0:30:40.320 --> 0:30:44.360 was turning the Trump's way and other controversial FBI probe 0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:47.080 and the Hillary Clinton's email was ending. Well, Hill, that 0:30:47.200 --> 0:30:50.480 explains where Hillary got all this from. That explains where 0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:53.920 Harry Reid came out. Remember Chuck Schumer in January said 0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:57.520 Trump really is dumb for attacking intelligence agencies. They have 0:30:57.680 --> 0:31:00.320 six ways from Sunday to get back at you. Is 0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:04.520 that what our intelligence community does? Remember all that. Very 0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:10.400 quickly agents concluded the computer activity in question involved no 0:31:10.520 --> 0:31:16.120 nefarious contacts, bank transactions, or encrypted communications with the Russians 0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:25.440 and likely involved routine computer signals. The exonerate Trump, exonerate completely, 0:31:25.960 --> 0:31:30.240 and corroborate that he was being surveiled. Now let me 0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:32.320 take it a step further, just something to think about. 0:31:33.040 --> 0:31:34.840 I won't go any further here because I don't have time. 0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:37.960 But they're gonna join us in our final hour today. 0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:40.680 Let me take it a step further Wiki leaks. Let's 0:31:40.680 --> 0:31:43.040 go to this headline in bright bart and similar one 0:31:43.120 --> 0:31:47.320 was in where was at the Washington Post today? Wiki leaks. 0:31:48.240 --> 0:31:51.160 There's a lot here. In other words, they tried to 0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:55.760 make it so that you couldn't secure your phone. One 0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:59.720 of the reasons I like iPhone is because of its encryption. Well, 0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:02.520 to the wiki leaks, Wiki leaks hasn't been wrong and 0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:06.520 almost eleven years, never proven wrong once about the information 0:32:06.560 --> 0:32:10.920 they disseminate. Okay, so the Android phones, Apple phones, and 0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:14.560 even smart TVs can become listening devices even if they're 0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:18.360 shut off. That's just some of the revelations that came out. 0:32:18.400 --> 0:32:21.080 But here's the one that interests me the most. That 0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:25.600 the c i A, according to these Wiki leaks leaks, 0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:33.320 uses stolen malware to attribute cyber attacks to nations like Russia. 0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:35.640 In other words, what they're saying is the c i 0:32:35.760 --> 0:32:41.479 A can actually blame Russia for an attack on an 0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:45.800 American and because they'll put their fingerprints all over the attack, 0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:50.680 meanwhile it came from within. Well did that happen in 0:32:50.720 --> 0:32:53.520 this case or do you think Hannity's really paranoid now 0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:57.280 and losing is just you know what, maybe I'm not 0:32:57.320 --> 0:33:00.640 so paranoid? Is anybody in the meat you see? Ann 0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:03.840 tonight gonna highlight John Solomon and Sarah Carter. No, They're 0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:08.280 exclusively gonna be on my radio show, in my TV shows. 0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:10.320 The New York Time is going to apologize. All these 0:33:10.800 --> 0:33:15.040 news outlets going to apologize for being wrong. Are they 0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:18.000 gonna say Trump was right about he was being surveilled? 0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:21.560 I doubt it. They're a bunch of hacks, the whole 0:33:21.640 --> 0:33:51.120 bunch of them. Jean Hannity, all right, a lot of 0:33:51.200 --> 0:33:53.560 get to today, a lot of top stories. Now, the 0:33:53.640 --> 0:33:55.960 Vice President will join us next to talk about the 0:33:56.000 --> 0:33:59.360 healthcare bill. Then Jim Jordan's and Congressman Dave Brad and 0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:02.320 Dr John Chaumber, the people that I just read the 0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:05.080 story of, John Solomon, Sarah Carter, and Ann Coulter are 0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:07.360 all coming up. Stay with us, busy day to day. 0:34:17.800 --> 0:34:21.360 A consensus plan that's now being scored by the CBO. Correct, 0:34:21.480 --> 0:34:23.879 Dave Brad seen it, But I haven't seen any plan 0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:28.640 at this point that has been rolled out. Dave Brad, Yeah, 0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:32.919 I was asking him specifically, where's the consensus plan. Well, 0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:34.320 in healthcare, I don't think there is one because we 0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:37.160 haven't seen it. Right. Much of it was modeled off 0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:40.120 the Tom Price legislation, which which we have Conservatives have 0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:42.879 always seen a sort of the gold standard for replacing Obamacare. 0:34:42.920 --> 0:34:45.520 He's now the Secretary of HSS. That is the bill, 0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:48.680 the plan that we ran on in seen we told America, 0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:51.920 here's our vision for how we replaced Obamacare. After we 0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:55.120 repeal Obamacare, we're all working off the same piece of paper, 0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:57.760 the same plan, so we are in sync, the House, 0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:01.279 the Senate, and the Trump administration. Because this law is 0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:03.800 collapsing and you can't just repeal it. You have to 0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:06.240 repeal it and replace it with a system that actually works. 0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:08.600 And that is exactly what we're doing. And I am 0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:11.200 perfectly confident that when it's all said and done, we're 0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:14.840 going to unify because we all, every Republican ran on 0:35:14.920 --> 0:35:17.480 repealing and replacing and we're going to keep our promises. 0:35:17.840 --> 0:35:20.280 Is there a consensus bill, because when I interviewed the Speaker, 0:35:20.320 --> 0:35:22.279 he said there was, and it was being scored, and 0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:23.960 after it was scored, he said, of course there's going 0:35:24.000 --> 0:35:26.120 to be amendments to it. But why the secrecy at 0:35:26.200 --> 0:35:29.480 this point, Well, there is a consensus of ideas and 0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:32.239 a consensus bill, but it's not the leadership bill. The 0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:35.680 leadership bill is Obamacare light, and they're embarrassed about it, 0:35:35.680 --> 0:35:37.719 so they keep it in secret because they don't want 0:35:37.719 --> 0:35:41.000 any of us to point out the Obamacare light features. 0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:43.880 Hopefully they will not put forward a Bottlecare light. But 0:35:43.960 --> 0:35:46.440 the bill they're keeping under lock and key that they 0:35:46.480 --> 0:35:48.320 won't let us see. They would not let me have 0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:51.640 a copy of this morning. That bill is Obamacare light, 0:35:51.680 --> 0:35:53.960 and that's why they don't want conservatives across the country 0:35:54.000 --> 0:35:56.760 to see it. All Right, there you hear of varying 0:35:56.800 --> 0:36:00.400 opinions yesterday. Of course, the healthcare bill or late the 0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:04.080 night before, was released on Monday night, and there is 0:36:04.280 --> 0:36:07.480 opposition to it. Obviously, it was not a consensus bill 0:36:07.520 --> 0:36:10.200 in the sense the Freedom Caucus and others, some of 0:36:10.239 --> 0:36:14.759 the study group, Senator Rampaul, Senator Ted Cruz, Senator Mike Lee, 0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:17.879 Senator Marco Rubio seemed to have problems with it. Here 0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:20.040 to help sort all of this out is the Vice 0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:23.240 President of the United States, and that is Vice President 0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:25.399 Mike Pence was back with those Mr. Vice President It's 0:36:25.400 --> 0:36:26.960 always an honor to have you on the show. Thank 0:36:27.000 --> 0:36:29.279 you for being with us. Thank you, Sean. Great to 0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:31.520 be with you. This is an exciting time in the 0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:35.520 life of our nation. It is truly historic that after 0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:39.880 the after Democrats and and the Obama administration passed a 0:36:39.960 --> 0:36:43.400 government takeover of healthcare, that we are literally on the 0:36:43.440 --> 0:36:49.200 cusp through through a vigorous legislative process of repealing and 0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:54.120 replacing Obamacare. And I'm I'm just truly humbled and grateful 0:36:54.160 --> 0:36:56.120 to be a small part of that. The only thing 0:36:56.160 --> 0:36:58.319 in my mind, and maybe it was wishful thinking on 0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:00.920 my part, because I know legislation. You once told me 0:37:00.920 --> 0:37:03.719 it's like sausage making in that sense, and you know 0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:08.239 New Gingrich describes, well, you work within a box. What 0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:10.400 what do you need to pass a bill? What do 0:37:10.440 --> 0:37:12.280 you need to pass a bill? And within that box 0:37:12.280 --> 0:37:15.000 you come to agreement. Nobody gets everything that they want. 0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:18.520 I guess my My only confusion and and concern is 0:37:18.719 --> 0:37:22.359 considering this started eight years ago. I'm just a little 0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:25.920 bit frustrated that there wasn't a consensus bill and now 0:37:25.960 --> 0:37:29.799 we've got a public fight going on between Republicans and 0:37:29.880 --> 0:37:32.920 this is only one item of the Trump Agenda, the 0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:35.239 Trump Pencil Agenda that needs to get passed. We've got 0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:38.839 to get the economic bill passed. We gotta get energy independence, 0:37:38.880 --> 0:37:40.680 We've we've got to get the vetting done and the 0:37:40.719 --> 0:37:42.560 wall built. There's a lot of work to do. And 0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:46.040 I just wish that maybe these these public battles we're 0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:48.480 seeing now could have been resolved behind closed doors and 0:37:48.520 --> 0:37:50.680 everybody could have got behind the president from day one 0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:52.440 and said, yeah, we agreed, this is our bill, we 0:37:52.520 --> 0:37:54.200 all vote, We're all going to vote for it. Well, 0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:56.000 and I think I think one of the soundbites that 0:37:56.080 --> 0:37:59.319 you played from from the speaker, Paul Ryan, reflected on 0:37:59.360 --> 0:38:01.320 the fact that they a working group in the Congress 0:38:01.400 --> 0:38:05.839 last year. Uh, they built this legislation at the president's 0:38:05.880 --> 0:38:11.920 direction around a framework included in then Congressman Tom Price's legislation, 0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:16.920 which was very broadly endorsed by conservatives and Republicans in 0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:19.400 the Congress. But look, this is this is a different 0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:22.279 kind of legislative process than happened in two thousand nine. 0:38:22.320 --> 0:38:25.040 I was there, you were, you were on the airways 0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:28.399 of America trying to stop that freight train called Obamacare, 0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:31.600 and we came pretty close remember, shop, we almost stopped 0:38:31.600 --> 0:38:34.480 the thing, but the way it was written, it was 0:38:34.520 --> 0:38:37.760 hard for us argue against it because literally, Nancy Pelosi 0:38:37.800 --> 0:38:40.719 as Speaker of the House, and the Obama team literally 0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:44.600 wrote Obamacare in a back room and that almost the 0:38:44.680 --> 0:38:47.120 day of the vote, brought it out onto the floor 0:38:47.120 --> 0:38:50.160 of the House of Representatives, and Nancy Pelosi famously said, quote, 0:38:50.360 --> 0:38:52.439 we have to vote for this bill so we can 0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:55.080 find out what's in a closed quote. Now that the 0:38:55.120 --> 0:38:58.400 American people found out what's in it, higher insurance premiums, 0:38:58.520 --> 0:39:02.920 lost the ability to choose your doctor, losing your insurance coverage. Literally, 0:39:02.960 --> 0:39:07.400 it is a spiraling disaster in healthcare, and Republicans, with 0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:10.880 the President's strong leadership, are determined to keep our promise 0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:13.719 of the American people. We're going to repeal this this 0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:17.759 disastrous policy. And what's been presented is just this is 0:39:17.760 --> 0:39:20.400 the most important thing I can tell you, Sean, is 0:39:20.440 --> 0:39:23.160 what's been presented in the Congress and has begun to 0:39:23.200 --> 0:39:27.280 be debated is simply phase one of the President's three 0:39:27.360 --> 0:39:32.520 phase process, which by this summer will succeed in repealing 0:39:33.200 --> 0:39:37.840 Obamacare and replacing it with healthcare reform that lets of 0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:41.400 the American people choose their health insurance, purchase health insurance 0:39:41.440 --> 0:39:43.879 across state lines. It will lower the cost of health 0:39:43.920 --> 0:39:47.240 insurance through free market choices. It will respect the doctor 0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:50.560 patient relationship. It will give states, literally, as the Wall 0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:55.640 Street Journal said today, unprecedented freedom and flexibility in tailoring 0:39:55.680 --> 0:39:58.840 their own Medicaid systems on a state by state basis. 0:39:58.920 --> 0:40:00.880 And we really do be that at the end of 0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:04.200 the day, at the end of this three phase process, 0:40:04.600 --> 0:40:08.160 the American people will will see that President Trump and 0:40:08.200 --> 0:40:12.480 Republicans in Congress kept their word and seized this historic 0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:17.800 healthcare moment to literally improve the healthcare economy based upon 0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:21.920 American principles and the free market. I guess, Mr Vice President, 0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:24.600 from my perspective, all of the people that came out 0:40:24.680 --> 0:40:28.120 yesterday opposing the bill within the Republican Party had telegraphed 0:40:28.120 --> 0:40:31.239 the very arguments long before they got an opportunity to 0:40:31.320 --> 0:40:34.360 see the bill, and I guess maybe wishful thinking on 0:40:34.480 --> 0:40:36.719 my part, I would have hoped that maybe a lot 0:40:36.760 --> 0:40:39.560 of those differences could have been resolved behind closed doors. 0:40:40.000 --> 0:40:42.399 Look at just even the lower third on on any 0:40:42.440 --> 0:40:45.040 of these news channels. All day, it's talks about an 0:40:45.600 --> 0:40:49.799 internal strife, civil war within the Republican Party, and um, 0:40:49.840 --> 0:40:52.279 I'm not so sure that's helpful. And and all these 0:40:52.320 --> 0:40:54.040 things now are going to be played out in public. 0:40:54.080 --> 0:40:57.000 Apparently that's I think playing into the Democrats hands a 0:40:57.000 --> 0:40:59.600 little bit. Or should the American people understand this is 0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:02.319 how digislation is made. And are you confident you're gonna 0:41:02.320 --> 0:41:05.680 bring these guys along? Well, first off, I'm very confident 0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:07.760 we're going to keep our promise to the American people 0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:11.440 with the with President Trump's strong leadership and the support 0:41:11.480 --> 0:41:13.400 of Republicans in the House and Senate, we're going to 0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:16.040 repeal and replace Obamacare. We're going to give the American 0:41:16.080 --> 0:41:20.520 people a health care system based on individual choice, personal responsibility, 0:41:20.520 --> 0:41:25.000 and freedom. Remember, the very core offense of Obamacare was 0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:29.040 that they decided to solve the problem what they perceived 0:41:29.080 --> 0:41:32.239 to be of coverage in America by ordering every American 0:41:32.560 --> 0:41:35.120 to buy health insurance, whether you want it or not. 0:41:35.400 --> 0:41:37.919 That we always believe that the issue of costs could 0:41:37.920 --> 0:41:40.560 be dealt with by by increasing the amount of choice 0:41:40.600 --> 0:41:43.000 that Americans had. That's the President of the core of 0:41:43.000 --> 0:41:48.320 the President's vision begins with repealing that the tax penalties, 0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:52.200 repealing the you know, the mandates and the heavy hand 0:41:52.239 --> 0:41:56.400 of government in Obamacare letting people purchase across state lines 0:41:56.960 --> 0:41:59.960 and then sending medicaid to the states, so that state, 0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:02.759 it's like my old home state of Indiana, have the 0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:06.440 ability to tailor those programs for the under privileged in 0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:09.360 ways that will serve their best needs, their best health. 0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:14.320 And truly, uh and and truly it advanced the choices 0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:17.080 that uh, that our most vulnerable citizens have in a 0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:20.200 healthcare economy in ways that will improve their lives. That 0:42:20.200 --> 0:42:22.399 that all I believe is going to happen. But look, 0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:25.320 we're we are. It is early in the legislative process. 0:42:25.640 --> 0:42:28.239 The President has said this is the bill, but he's 0:42:28.280 --> 0:42:32.040 also he told leaders in Congress yesterday. I told him 0:42:32.040 --> 0:42:33.759 when I was on Capitol Hill in the House, and 0:42:34.600 --> 0:42:38.520 we're certainly open to improvements the House proposal. We believe, 0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:42.160 you know, you know is you know, can be improved. 0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:45.200 We're gonna listen to thoughtful recommendations to do that. But 0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:48.680 the overall framework of this process, we truly believe, as 0:42:48.719 --> 0:42:52.400 the President said, has to begin with our effort to 0:42:52.520 --> 0:42:57.560 simultaneously repeal and replace Obamacare. And that's what this first 0:42:57.560 --> 0:43:00.719 bill does begins to do. And the end of this 0:43:00.800 --> 0:43:04.560 three phase process. I truly do believe that your listeners 0:43:04.600 --> 0:43:07.880 and and frankly, I think the broad broad mainstream of 0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:11.279 the American public. Uh, we'll see that we have. We 0:43:11.360 --> 0:43:14.839 took what was a disaster in healthcare and we turned 0:43:14.880 --> 0:43:18.080 it around to put it on a pathway for for 0:43:18.239 --> 0:43:21.440 better health, better health care choices, and a more prosperous 0:43:21.440 --> 0:43:25.600 fut The argument of the Freedom Caucus, both them and 0:43:26.120 --> 0:43:29.280 Senator Paul for example, is that this does not represent 0:43:29.320 --> 0:43:32.880 a full repeal, and it creates a new entitlement, and 0:43:32.920 --> 0:43:35.320 that is the subsidies that would come from the federal 0:43:35.360 --> 0:43:38.839 government and be sent into terms of in terms of 0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:43.120 tax credits to individuals. Um, do you feel they're right 0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:45.279 on that or do you agree with the free Do 0:43:45.360 --> 0:43:46.920 you think the Freedom Caucus is right or do you 0:43:46.920 --> 0:43:49.600 think Paul Ryan has that right? Well, I have to 0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:52.880 be honest with you. Obamacare, they subsidize the purchase of 0:43:52.920 --> 0:43:56.800 health insurance through these exchanges. I think that giving people 0:43:56.840 --> 0:43:59.680 a credit on taxes is a better way to go. 0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:03.080 If if if people don't have coverage through their employer 0:44:03.160 --> 0:44:06.320 and they're purchasing on the individual market, allowing them to 0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:09.120 have a credit against their tax liability. That's to me, 0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:14.920 that's always been a good free market means of encouraging 0:44:14.960 --> 0:44:18.160 and creating an incentive for behavior. Remember, the core difference 0:44:18.160 --> 0:44:21.680 between Obamacare and what's been proposed in the Congress today 0:44:21.920 --> 0:44:25.319 is freedom. In Obamacare, with the federal government ordered every 0:44:25.320 --> 0:44:28.480 American to buy health insurance or pay attacks, we're essentially 0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:31.719 saying we're creating incentives for people to be able to 0:44:31.760 --> 0:44:35.080 better afford health insurance. But whether you buy health insurance 0:44:35.360 --> 0:44:37.640 is your decision, and it's your call. And to me, 0:44:37.800 --> 0:44:41.120 that's more than a small matter. That's it really goes 0:44:41.200 --> 0:44:43.440 to the heart of when I was in that battle 0:44:43.440 --> 0:44:45.880 in two thousand nine against Obamacare. To me, it was 0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:49.040 the intrusion on freedom that I found most offensive. I mean, 0:44:49.520 --> 0:44:51.480 if the federal government can order you to buy one 0:44:51.560 --> 0:44:54.000 thing whatever, to say down the road in the future, 0:44:54.000 --> 0:44:55.719 they can't order you to spend your money in other 0:44:55.760 --> 0:44:58.799 different ways, you know. To me, that's the where we 0:44:58.880 --> 0:45:02.839 all begin. And in bill, remember this is a budget bill. 0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:05.000 I don't want to be too granular here, but this 0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:07.319 is a bill that only requires fifty one votes in 0:45:07.320 --> 0:45:10.160 the Senate. There's there's a chat by the way, that 0:45:10.239 --> 0:45:13.520 is a real hurdle. That that's right, But but it's 0:45:13.560 --> 0:45:17.160 not sixty votes. Okay, the next the phase three of 0:45:17.160 --> 0:45:19.400 this will take sixty votes. And the President and I 0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:22.000 and our whole team are committed to go across the 0:45:22.000 --> 0:45:24.960 country and fight hard for all the balance of reforms 0:45:25.040 --> 0:45:28.960 like like uh, you know, completing the authority to buy 0:45:29.000 --> 0:45:33.600 health insurance across state lines, and creating association health plans 0:45:33.680 --> 0:45:37.800 so that people can join insurance pools on a nationwide basis, 0:45:37.840 --> 0:45:43.319 of bringing together medical liability, legal reform, to to to 0:45:43.440 --> 0:45:47.600 bring some common sense to litigation that drives up the 0:45:47.640 --> 0:45:51.680 cost of health insurance across the country. All those things 0:45:51.719 --> 0:45:53.799 will have to get well left to get sixty votes 0:45:53.840 --> 0:45:56.200 to do them, and and well Spring, I promise you 0:45:56.239 --> 0:45:57.799 were going to fight for them. But in this bill, 0:45:58.440 --> 0:46:01.840 we can repeal the taxes, we can we can start 0:46:02.000 --> 0:46:06.399 down the road of replacing Obamacare, and that combined with 0:46:06.400 --> 0:46:09.080 what Dr Price can do at HHS and our Phase 0:46:09.160 --> 0:46:11.799 three bill can deliver a great victory for the American people. 0:46:13.760 --> 0:46:16.480 Stay up to date with the latest news and expert 0:46:16.520 --> 0:46:21.479 opinions as Donald Trump takes office. Stick right here will 0:46:22.200 --> 0:46:48.239 Shawn Hendy show. We continue with the Vice President of 0:46:48.239 --> 0:46:51.920 the United States, Vice President Mike Pence, Mr. Vice President. 0:46:52.000 --> 0:46:53.799 I guess the next question I have is, you know 0:46:53.880 --> 0:46:57.120 we've been following this guy in Wichita, Kansas. You're gonna 0:46:57.200 --> 0:46:59.399 join us later in the program. And I know you're 0:46:59.440 --> 0:47:01.319 pretty busy and you probably don't have time to watch 0:47:01.320 --> 0:47:03.480 my TV show ever, but we had them on last night, 0:47:03.640 --> 0:47:06.480 and this guy in Wichita has a system where people pay. 0:47:06.719 --> 0:47:09.520 Kids pay ten bucks a month, the adults pay fifty 0:47:09.520 --> 0:47:12.759 bucks a month. It includes as many visits as you 0:47:12.840 --> 0:47:16.239 ever need, takes care of stitches and broken bones and 0:47:16.520 --> 0:47:20.840 m ririse, and they even have a negotiated directly with 0:47:20.840 --> 0:47:25.040 the pharmaceutical companies and gets reduction on the cost of 0:47:25.160 --> 0:47:29.680 most medicines and including chemotherapy medicines. And they have five 0:47:29.719 --> 0:47:33.319 doctors in his practice, six patients per doctor. And then 0:47:33.560 --> 0:47:36.680 the patients usually get a catastrophic plan, which is very 0:47:36.680 --> 0:47:40.160 inexpensive depending on what your deductible is. And that would 0:47:40.160 --> 0:47:42.480 be in case God forbid you have an accident, God 0:47:42.520 --> 0:47:44.480 forbid you out a heart attack, or God forbid you 0:47:44.520 --> 0:47:47.640 got cancer. These cooperatives, there are about a thousand of 0:47:47.680 --> 0:47:49.840 them now that have popped up around the country. Between 0:47:49.880 --> 0:47:52.560 that and health care savings accounts, so we onto something 0:47:52.600 --> 0:47:55.680 that could really in his case, he cuts the cost 0:47:55.760 --> 0:48:00.000 for his patients at becuse, cuts the cost of pharmaceutic 0:48:01.960 --> 0:48:04.880 and it seems that these innovative ideas that are popping 0:48:04.960 --> 0:48:08.240 up around the country could be utilized. Thoughts well, nothing 0:48:08.280 --> 0:48:10.799 false about it at all, And health savings accounts are 0:48:10.840 --> 0:48:14.279 at the very center of the president's vision here. Uh. 0:48:14.400 --> 0:48:17.399 You know, we introduced, really for the first time ever, 0:48:17.520 --> 0:48:20.600 health savings accounts in to medicate when I was governor 0:48:20.600 --> 0:48:22.960 of the state of Indiana. When when people are able 0:48:23.320 --> 0:48:25.920 to make a deposit into a health savings account that 0:48:25.960 --> 0:48:28.839 they can pay a first dollar out of to pay 0:48:28.880 --> 0:48:32.759 for their their healthcare, it creates an incentive for preventive 0:48:32.760 --> 0:48:37.560 medicine and encourages people to to make better health care choices. 0:48:37.680 --> 0:48:40.200 And then you add to that a catastrophic plan that's 0:48:40.239 --> 0:48:43.239 much more affordable. It all makes sense. But everything you're 0:48:43.239 --> 0:48:46.160 talking about, I know to your bone marrow, Sean Hannity, 0:48:46.239 --> 0:48:49.120 you're a free market guy, yes, sir, you know, there's 0:48:49.160 --> 0:48:51.560 there's no I love what Phil Graham said one time. 0:48:51.600 --> 0:48:53.880 He said, there's no problem in America too big or 0:48:53.880 --> 0:48:57.399 too complex that the market can't solve if we let 0:48:57.400 --> 0:49:00.839 the markets solve it. What what happened into thousand nine 0:49:00.920 --> 0:49:04.920 that were committed to repeal and replace was that it 0:49:05.040 --> 0:49:07.440 was nothing short of a government takeover of healthcare. They 0:49:07.840 --> 0:49:11.440 looked at the issue of uninsured in America, and instead 0:49:11.480 --> 0:49:14.919 of freeing up the marketplace, allowing people to buy health 0:49:14.920 --> 0:49:17.719 insurance across state lines, giving people more freedom and more 0:49:17.760 --> 0:49:22.120 flexibility to innovate programs like health savings accounts and association 0:49:22.160 --> 0:49:25.480 health plans, instead they came out with this massive government 0:49:25.480 --> 0:49:29.080 mandate ordering every American to buy health insurance whether they 0:49:29.120 --> 0:49:32.040 wanted or needed or not, and then layered on top 0:49:32.080 --> 0:49:35.000 of that attacks penalty if you didn't pay that, and 0:49:35.040 --> 0:49:38.520 that was that. That's the core of Obamacare that goes 0:49:38.600 --> 0:49:41.440 away in the bill that was introduced this week with 0:49:41.560 --> 0:49:44.560 a tax penalty is gone, and by the end of 0:49:44.600 --> 0:49:48.320 this three phase process, everything about Obamacare will be swept 0:49:48.360 --> 0:49:51.319 away and we will replace it with exactly the kind 0:49:51.360 --> 0:49:53.799 of framework that will invite the innovation that you're talking 0:49:53.800 --> 0:49:56.800 about in which talk. I'm just really hoping and praying 0:49:56.840 --> 0:50:00.000 that Republicans can come to consensus quickly. There's so much 0:50:00.040 --> 0:50:02.799 on the agenda, and as a credit to both you 0:50:02.880 --> 0:50:04.880 and the President, you have gotten so much done in 0:50:04.920 --> 0:50:08.000 such a short period of time, and many big items 0:50:08.040 --> 0:50:10.360 remain and I know you will get to them expeditiously. 0:50:10.840 --> 0:50:12.919 Mr Vice President, Thank you as always for your time. 0:50:12.960 --> 0:50:15.239 We appreciate you always being on the program. Thank you, sir, 0:50:15.719 --> 0:50:18.759 Thank you. Sean. Great to be with you one Sean 0:50:18.800 --> 0:50:21.319 are toll free telephone number, and Culture will get her 0:50:21.400 --> 0:50:23.520 thoughts on all of this when we get back straight ahead, 0:50:49.120 --> 0:50:54.640 holding them accountable. Sean gets the answers no one else does. 0:50:55.560 --> 0:51:01.359 America desserts and know the truth about Congress. The plan 0:51:01.719 --> 0:51:04.279 is to repeal and replaced this law. Like we said, 0:51:04.360 --> 0:51:06.239 we ran on a plan to repeal and replace it. 0:51:06.640 --> 0:51:09.800 Tom Chrice helped write that plan. He is now Donald 0:51:09.800 --> 0:51:13.520 Trump's secretary of a consensus plan that's now being scored 0:51:13.560 --> 0:51:16.440 by the CBO. Correct. He said, there's a plan currently 0:51:16.480 --> 0:51:19.479 being scored by the CBO that was a consensus plan. 0:51:19.560 --> 0:51:22.720 That's what he told me. Well, I understand that, and 0:51:22.719 --> 0:51:25.640 and uh, it is not a consensus plan. I haven't 0:51:25.640 --> 0:51:27.959 seen it. Maybe Dave Brad seen it, but I haven't 0:51:28.000 --> 0:51:31.400 seen any plan at this point that has been rolled 0:51:31.400 --> 0:51:37.160 out Dave Brad Yeah, I was asking him specifically, where's 0:51:37.200 --> 0:51:39.279 the consensus plan? Well, and help, I don't think there 0:51:39.320 --> 0:51:41.279 is one because we haven't seen it. Right. We have 0:51:41.320 --> 0:51:44.440 been running on repealing and replacing Obamacare since two thousand. 0:51:45.000 --> 0:51:48.160 In two thousand sixteen, the House, in a bottom up way, 0:51:48.520 --> 0:51:51.239 set a working group together the Commerce Committee, the Ways 0:51:51.320 --> 0:51:53.839 Means Committe, the Education Workforce Committee, and then any other 0:51:53.920 --> 0:51:56.799 member of Congress who cares about this issue participated in 0:51:56.800 --> 0:51:58.520 a working group to come up with a plan for 0:51:58.560 --> 0:52:01.920 what we replace Obamacare. Uh. Much of it was modeled 0:52:01.920 --> 0:52:04.960 off the Tom Price legislation, which which we have conservatives 0:52:05.000 --> 0:52:06.640 have always seen a sort of the gold standard for 0:52:06.680 --> 0:52:09.759 replacing Obamacare. He's now the Secretary of hs S. That 0:52:10.000 --> 0:52:12.440 is the bill, the plan that we ran on in Sie. 0:52:12.560 --> 0:52:16.000 We told America, here's our vision for how we replace 0:52:16.080 --> 0:52:18.959 Obamacare after we repeal Obamacare. That's the bill we're working 0:52:19.000 --> 0:52:21.399 on right now. That's the bill we're working on with 0:52:21.520 --> 0:52:24.439 the Trump administration. We're all working off the same piece 0:52:24.480 --> 0:52:26.840 of paper, the same plan, so we are in sync, 0:52:27.080 --> 0:52:30.520 the House, the Senate, and the Trump administration. Because this 0:52:30.640 --> 0:52:33.480 law is collapsing and you can't just repeal it. You 0:52:33.520 --> 0:52:35.200 have to repeal it and replace it with a system 0:52:35.280 --> 0:52:37.919 that actually works, and that is exactly what we're doing. 0:52:37.960 --> 0:52:40.399 And I am perfectly confident that when it's all said 0:52:40.400 --> 0:52:43.480 and done, we're going to unify because we all, every 0:52:43.520 --> 0:52:46.400 Republican ran on repealing and replacing, and we're going to 0:52:46.480 --> 0:52:49.160 keep our promises. Is there a consensus bill, because when 0:52:49.200 --> 0:52:51.080 I interviewed the Speaker, he said there was, and it 0:52:51.120 --> 0:52:53.200 was being scored, And after it was scored, he said, 0:52:53.200 --> 0:52:54.800 of course it's going to be amendments to it. But 0:52:55.040 --> 0:52:57.080 why the secrecy at this point, Well, there is a 0:52:57.120 --> 0:53:00.680 consensus of ideas and a consense this bill, but it's 0:53:00.719 --> 0:53:04.160 not the leadership bill. The leadership bill is Obamacare light, 0:53:04.440 --> 0:53:06.319 and they're embarrassed about it, so they keep it in 0:53:06.400 --> 0:53:08.960 secret because they don't want any of us to point 0:53:08.960 --> 0:53:12.399 out the Obamacare light features. Hopefully they will not put 0:53:12.440 --> 0:53:15.160 forward a binalcare light. But the bill they're keeping under 0:53:15.200 --> 0:53:17.600 lock and key that they won't let us see. They 0:53:17.600 --> 0:53:19.520 would not let me have a copy of this morning. 0:53:19.960 --> 0:53:22.560 That bill is Obamacare light, and that's why they don't 0:53:22.560 --> 0:53:25.000 want conservatives across the country to see it. All right, 0:53:25.000 --> 0:53:27.080 twenty four now, till the top of the hour. You know, 0:53:27.120 --> 0:53:29.319 I just want to reset the table here and we're 0:53:29.320 --> 0:53:32.480 gonna get to Ann Coulter. So for eight years, eight 0:53:33.000 --> 0:53:37.319 long years, repeal and replace. So here, Donald Trump wins 0:53:37.360 --> 0:53:40.240 the election, and they had all these show votes, phony 0:53:40.320 --> 0:53:44.440 votes that would absolutely meaningless. Ted Cruz filibusters in the 0:53:44.480 --> 0:53:48.080 Senate and says, let's use our enumerated constitutional power of 0:53:48.120 --> 0:53:51.680 the purse and we can repeal Obamacare. We can stop it, 0:53:51.880 --> 0:53:54.160 we cannot fund it. And they had that option. Now 0:53:54.280 --> 0:53:56.080 Ted Cruz has gone off the deep end. We're gonna 0:53:56.080 --> 0:53:59.000 lose seats in teen. Well, you didn't lose seats, Ineen, 0:53:59.000 --> 0:54:03.440 they won seats. So this is their their signature. And 0:54:03.520 --> 0:54:07.600 we get in January. It's now March, and they still 0:54:07.840 --> 0:54:10.680 never had a consensus bill. Now, let me tell you 0:54:10.719 --> 0:54:12.920 how I would have rolled this bill out, because I 0:54:12.960 --> 0:54:15.960 had interviewed everybody, and I knew there wasn't consensus. The 0:54:16.040 --> 0:54:19.600 Freedom Caucuses against it, Americans for Prosperity or against it. 0:54:20.120 --> 0:54:23.160 The Freedom Works is against it, Heritage Action is against it. 0:54:23.520 --> 0:54:27.480 Forbes's Group is against everybody's against it. Grand Paul's against it. 0:54:27.719 --> 0:54:30.360 Ted Cruz is against it. Mike Lea's against it, Freedom 0:54:30.400 --> 0:54:34.160 Caucuses against it, Rubio is against it. And why didn't 0:54:34.160 --> 0:54:37.920 they work out all of these problems behind closed doors, 0:54:38.320 --> 0:54:42.600 then as a United Republican House and Senate and President 0:54:42.840 --> 0:54:45.920 reveal it and say we're gonna pass this bill anyway 0:54:45.920 --> 0:54:49.680 and cultures. So it's infuriating. I mean, it's almost dereliction 0:54:49.719 --> 0:54:53.880 of duty. How bad this was rolled out yesterday. I know, Sean, 0:54:54.040 --> 0:54:58.080 I know it's a joke and sad. First of all, 0:54:58.080 --> 0:55:00.640 you can I don't understand why no one in Congress 0:55:00.760 --> 0:55:04.360 understands the free market. We constantly have this ratchet effect 0:55:04.440 --> 0:55:09.640 where Democrats are in office, they pushed through massive socialist schemes, 0:55:09.760 --> 0:55:13.040 and then Republicans come in with a Republican House, Republican Senate, 0:55:13.040 --> 0:55:15.920 Republican president. And what do they do. They keep the 0:55:15.920 --> 0:55:19.200 the overall framework of the government running our lives in 0:55:19.239 --> 0:55:23.120 this or that area. Take Department of Education invented by 0:55:23.320 --> 0:55:26.080 Jimmy Carter as a stop to the teachers unions. Ronald 0:55:26.120 --> 0:55:30.320 Reagan ran on eliminating the Department of Education, and twenty 0:55:30.400 --> 0:55:33.040 years later George Bush is tinkering around the edges who 0:55:33.120 --> 0:55:36.440 have no child left behind. No, we don't want tinkering. 0:55:36.560 --> 0:55:39.720 We want a free market. And whenever you hear people 0:55:39.800 --> 0:55:42.719 saying as as they always do, well, how are we 0:55:42.760 --> 0:55:45.480 going to make sure everyone has health insurance? Okay, for 0:55:45.600 --> 0:55:49.640 most of the last century, Soviet Union couldn't clothe its people, 0:55:49.760 --> 0:55:53.680 couldn't feed its people. Here in America, we totally solved 0:55:53.719 --> 0:55:58.400 the everyone be closed problem. Everyone have shoes, everyone have food, 0:55:58.480 --> 0:56:01.279 in fact, an infinite, very variety of food, even of 0:56:01.400 --> 0:56:04.759 something something like orange juice. That that is, as I 0:56:04.760 --> 0:56:08.920 wrote in a column recently, Russian President Yelson walked through 0:56:09.400 --> 0:56:13.200 a supermarket in Austin, Texas and was blown away by 0:56:13.239 --> 0:56:16.080 the orange juice sile. How did we do that, Sean? 0:56:16.520 --> 0:56:19.920 We did that through the free market, not by the 0:56:20.000 --> 0:56:22.840 government saying well, if you're going to make orange juice, 0:56:22.880 --> 0:56:25.120 we have a series of mandates for you, and we're 0:56:25.120 --> 0:56:28.200 going to have the State Orange Juice Commission tell you 0:56:28.440 --> 0:56:30.280 that it has to have a spout at an easy, 0:56:30.280 --> 0:56:34.239 poor spout, and only pure orange juice. You can't make 0:56:34.360 --> 0:56:37.960 mix in mango juice. Please just give us a free 0:56:38.040 --> 0:56:40.440 market and health insurance. Yes, there are people who will 0:56:40.440 --> 0:56:42.719 not be able to afford that health insurance or they 0:56:42.840 --> 0:56:45.680 either because they're irresponsible, or they're not making enough money, 0:56:45.760 --> 0:56:48.520 or they're young people, or because they just drew a 0:56:48.600 --> 0:56:52.720 bad lottery ticket in life. Okay, that's probably at most 0:56:52.920 --> 0:56:56.240 three percent of the country. Let's say it's something wild 0:56:56.440 --> 0:57:01.040 like seven ten. That doesn't mean you do pride the 0:57:01.160 --> 0:57:04.200 other three hundred million of us of being able to 0:57:04.320 --> 0:57:06.879 buy health insurance on the free market. And I would 0:57:06.960 --> 0:57:10.200 also add, we already have a model of this yere 0:57:10.200 --> 0:57:12.960 in America, not only with car insurance that's sold on 0:57:13.000 --> 0:57:18.320 the free market. A cute little get commercial number two Obamacare, Um, 0:57:18.320 --> 0:57:21.640 thank Heavin for the establishment clause was forced to give 0:57:21.640 --> 0:57:24.760 waivers to Christian groups who provide something they're not allowed 0:57:24.760 --> 0:57:27.640 to call insurance, but it's insurance. And you know how 0:57:27.720 --> 0:57:30.160 much that is? Fifty dollars a month. And that's with 0:57:30.240 --> 0:57:33.840 a teeny tiny little pool. If if health insurance for 0:57:33.960 --> 0:57:37.200 young people, for healthy people, for the risk averse, if 0:57:37.240 --> 0:57:39.600 you could get catastrophic health insurance just in case you're 0:57:39.680 --> 0:57:41.600 hit by a car, you have a terrible skiing accident, 0:57:41.680 --> 0:57:44.160 you get a dread disease. If if it were fifty 0:57:44.200 --> 0:57:46.400 dollars a month, so many people would be buying it 0:57:46.400 --> 0:57:49.120 would probably go down to twenty or thirty dollars a month. 0:57:49.560 --> 0:57:54.160 Please just give us a free market and stop putting mandates. 0:57:54.160 --> 0:57:57.560 Are sending it back to the state insurance commissioners, the 0:57:57.560 --> 0:58:03.000 most corrupt institutions in the Could you imagine. And meanwhile, 0:58:03.240 --> 0:58:06.520 all of this, I'm being told there's a consensus bill 0:58:06.600 --> 0:58:08.920 being scored by the CBO. And then I put on 0:58:09.160 --> 0:58:12.240 let's see Dave brad and Jim Jordan and Mark Meadows 0:58:12.280 --> 0:58:15.360 and Louis Gohmert, and then Marcia Blackburn and I put 0:58:15.400 --> 0:58:18.720 on Grand Paul other people, and they all say, Nope, 0:58:18.800 --> 0:58:20.520 we're hearing this is in it. This is in it, 0:58:20.600 --> 0:58:21.880 this is in it, this is in it. And I 0:58:21.920 --> 0:58:24.200 go and I write people and I'm like, guys, they're 0:58:24.200 --> 0:58:26.560 not on board, and they have enough votes to kill it. 0:58:26.680 --> 0:58:29.480 I'm like, why aren't you talking together? Could you imagine 0:58:29.480 --> 0:58:32.080 if they actually got had gotten in a room, they 0:58:32.120 --> 0:58:35.360 put together a bill that everybody agreed on and supported. 0:58:35.400 --> 0:58:38.120 Nobody gets everything they want. That's the way bills are written. 0:58:38.320 --> 0:58:39.800 But at the end of the day, it was on 0:58:39.840 --> 0:58:45.200 the principles. You just describe simple, basic, fundamental conservative free 0:58:45.240 --> 0:58:49.080 market principles and imagine that if the president held a 0:58:49.200 --> 0:58:51.840 big event with all members of the House and Senate 0:58:51.880 --> 0:58:54.840 that a Republican supporting the bill and say we are unified. 0:58:55.120 --> 0:58:57.960 This is our bill. Now maybe I'm not, maybe I'm 0:58:58.040 --> 0:59:00.920 maybe I'm just two outside the bubble. It's I mean, 0:59:00.960 --> 0:59:05.919 there are complications, but not for of the American people. 0:59:05.960 --> 0:59:08.480 If you can make of us happy, wouldn't you do it? 0:59:08.760 --> 0:59:11.320 You could do it in a single sentence in the bill. 0:59:11.720 --> 0:59:14.800 There shall be a free market in health insurance. Period. 0:59:15.040 --> 0:59:18.760 The rest of the bill is all dealing with with Medicaid, 0:59:18.920 --> 0:59:22.840 with trial lawyers, with laws that require hospitals to treat 0:59:22.880 --> 0:59:26.960 anyone who walks in UM. You have to have fraud investigators. 0:59:27.120 --> 0:59:29.840 But that's the ten percent of people who are going 0:59:29.880 --> 0:59:34.120 to need either fully subsidized or partially subsidized healthcare for 0:59:34.160 --> 0:59:36.560 one reason or another. Often not their fault, because I'm 0:59:36.600 --> 0:59:39.440 not saying this with any with any venom here. Some 0:59:39.480 --> 0:59:41.480 people are just born with horrible problems. Of course we're 0:59:41.480 --> 0:59:42.920 going to pay for that. You have to make sure 0:59:42.960 --> 0:59:45.480 there isn't fraud. There's a lot of fraud in Medicare 0:59:45.480 --> 0:59:49.120 and Medicaid right now. Again thanks to our hard working immigrants, 0:59:49.160 --> 0:59:53.280 mostly UM, but nine of us just let us buy 0:59:53.360 --> 0:59:55.440 on the free market. It is the most baffling thing. 0:59:55.520 --> 0:59:57.960 I always feel like I'm talking to, you know, an 0:59:57.960 --> 1:00:03.680 old Soviet woman, sir, explaining how bread will get to 1:00:03.720 --> 1:00:06.680 the market. No, we don't need the government to write 1:00:06.760 --> 1:00:09.600 these regulations. And and don't tell the healthcare is important, 1:00:09.640 --> 1:00:13.560 food is important, housing is important, clothes are important, and 1:00:13.600 --> 1:00:17.160 we are just you know, we're rolling in all of it. 1:00:17.400 --> 1:00:20.440 Why it gets better and cheaper every year because of 1:00:20.520 --> 1:00:23.919 the free market, as with as with car insurance, as 1:00:23.960 --> 1:00:26.240 with the Christian health insurance. It isn't allowed to call 1:00:26.280 --> 1:00:29.920 it self insurance. I just to me, it's very very simple. 1:00:29.960 --> 1:00:32.640 You repeal the old bill, you replace it with you know, 1:00:32.720 --> 1:00:34.520 I had this guy on TV last night. I put 1:00:34.560 --> 1:00:38.720 him on radio today, Josh Umbers with his name, and 1:00:38.720 --> 1:00:42.080 he's a great guy. He has the very type of 1:00:42.080 --> 1:00:45.960 of what you call cooperative that you're discussing ten bucks 1:00:46.080 --> 1:00:49.240 a month for kids, fifty bucks a month for adults, 1:00:49.280 --> 1:00:52.440 all the medical care testing you want. And he negotiated 1:00:52.440 --> 1:00:56.440 directly with the pharmaceutical companies and he has reductions and 1:00:56.520 --> 1:01:00.000 what you would pay at Walmart. Oh yeah, oh yeah, 1:01:00.000 --> 1:01:03.560 to sell it outfuly. Free market, let people compete. Um, 1:01:03.720 --> 1:01:07.960 Let the pharmaceutical companies compete for the businesses. Uh No, 1:01:08.160 --> 1:01:11.680 it's it's magic, the free market. I don't understand why 1:01:11.720 --> 1:01:16.040 Republicans don't understand. Um. I I am glad to see 1:01:16.240 --> 1:01:20.280 Rand Paul Um. He seems to have imbibed well from 1:01:20.280 --> 1:01:23.560 his father, Ron Paul. He appears to be the only 1:01:23.600 --> 1:01:26.960 one who grasps the concept of the free market, which 1:01:27.040 --> 1:01:30.160 again solves the problem of health insurance, as it has 1:01:30.200 --> 1:01:34.600 solved the problem of clothing ourselves and and and buying food. 1:01:35.040 --> 1:01:38.920 It solves it for the people. You don't screw three 1:01:39.400 --> 1:01:43.920 million people because you have special cases with another ten millions. Well, 1:01:44.440 --> 1:01:46.120 I think at the end of the day, there's a 1:01:46.160 --> 1:01:49.160 way to get this right. And you know, Donald Trump 1:01:49.200 --> 1:01:51.080 is the great negotiator, and it looks like he's going 1:01:51.120 --> 1:01:52.720 to have to go in and clean up the mess 1:01:52.760 --> 1:01:56.600 that Congress created. Well, what's frustrating about that is Donald 1:01:56.600 --> 1:02:00.440 Trump is one man. He's he's working on the wall, 1:02:00.600 --> 1:02:04.560 he's imposing the travel band, You're bringing jobs back. Um. 1:02:04.600 --> 1:02:08.240 He's just a world wind of activity. We have hundreds 1:02:08.360 --> 1:02:11.920 of Republicans, Um, in the United States Congress. They can't 1:02:11.920 --> 1:02:15.440 do this one thing because there are complicated portions to it. Again, 1:02:15.480 --> 1:02:18.280 the part that deals with the ten percent of Americans 1:02:18.400 --> 1:02:22.120 who are incapable of of being covered by insurance on 1:02:22.160 --> 1:02:25.160 the free market, either because they have some very expensive 1:02:25.160 --> 1:02:29.040 disease or they're just they're just incapable. As Trump said, 1:02:29.160 --> 1:02:31.160 we don't let them die on the street. Don't worry. 1:02:31.200 --> 1:02:33.760 We never have. We have Medicaid, we have Medicare, we 1:02:33.800 --> 1:02:36.880 have veterans, hospitals. All of that stuff needs to be fixed. 1:02:36.880 --> 1:02:40.800 But you don't wreck the free market for of the public. 1:02:41.080 --> 1:02:43.520 Can you imagine if they've done this with food and 1:02:43.600 --> 1:02:47.760 clothes and culture. I gotta I gotta tell you listen. 1:02:47.760 --> 1:02:50.200 We love having you come back often when you're back 1:02:50.280 --> 1:02:51.840 up in New York. You did great on TV the 1:02:51.840 --> 1:02:53.520 other night. Thank you as always for being with us. 1:02:53.680 --> 1:02:57.120 Absolutely good to talk to you. Shan by One, Shawn 1:02:57.200 --> 1:03:01.080 toll Free telephone number, Next Star, Final round up and 1:03:01.360 --> 1:03:36.600 information overload our All right, let's hit our busy telephones here. 1:03:37.120 --> 1:03:41.120 Michelle is in Hampton, Virginia listening on w n I S. 1:03:41.200 --> 1:03:43.360 What's going on? How are you? Yes? Thank you so 1:03:43.440 --> 1:03:46.320 much Mr Hannity for taking my call. Ma'am um. Well, 1:03:46.360 --> 1:03:48.160 I want you to just share with the American people. 1:03:48.280 --> 1:03:52.960 Is have we forgotten that that compassionate, loving speech that 1:03:53.080 --> 1:03:56.080 he gave that address to Congress, who the gentleman and 1:03:56.120 --> 1:03:59.160 the women who had to sit and ignore him as 1:03:59.200 --> 1:04:02.040 he spoke to us, the American people and them to 1:04:02.080 --> 1:04:04.360 try and get their act together. And now those are 1:04:04.400 --> 1:04:07.000 the same ones that are standing up. You're attacking him 1:04:07.000 --> 1:04:10.000 with life and falsehood. I think they should come out 1:04:10.200 --> 1:04:13.440 and show the proof of their attacks in their lives. 1:04:13.560 --> 1:04:15.320 If they can't show it, they all get a year 1:04:15.320 --> 1:04:18.320 in one Pattamo along with the owner and CEO of 1:04:18.320 --> 1:04:20.280 that news media outlets, put them all over there for 1:04:20.280 --> 1:04:22.080 a year. Listen, let me tell you something. The best 1:04:22.120 --> 1:04:24.080 thing that Trump can do. You know, I was interviewed 1:04:24.080 --> 1:04:28.880 by Ted Cobble a BC. This is Nightline, uh yesterday 1:04:28.960 --> 1:04:31.640 for you know. He interviews me for an hour and 1:04:31.640 --> 1:04:33.760 and literally three minutes will show up on the show. 1:04:33.760 --> 1:04:36.120 He told me, I give my first answer goes none 1:04:36.160 --> 1:04:37.720 of that's going to get in. I'm like, well, why 1:04:37.760 --> 1:04:39.600 am I even here? You know, I mean, I get 1:04:39.600 --> 1:04:41.920 along with Copple, you know, he loves to be a 1:04:41.960 --> 1:04:43.960 hardass with me. But I I said, all right, I'll 1:04:44.000 --> 1:04:45.440 sit down I'm like, why am I sitting here for 1:04:45.480 --> 1:04:48.120 an hour? For three minutes? It's such a waste of 1:04:48.120 --> 1:04:51.840 my time. Anyway, and one of the things that he 1:04:52.000 --> 1:04:54.680 just wanted to focus, well, does Trump telling the truth? 1:04:54.720 --> 1:04:57.360 Do we need journalists? I said, not really we we 1:04:57.600 --> 1:05:00.000 journalism is dead. It's not coming back, as my opinion, 1:05:00.280 --> 1:05:04.040 but anyway, Yeah, they've all Hell's broken loose. The media 1:05:04.360 --> 1:05:07.800 is calling him a liar every day, and it is 1:05:07.960 --> 1:05:13.040 absolutely repugnant to me, how abusively biased, how lazy, and 1:05:13.080 --> 1:05:16.200 how wrong the media is. They're the ones that said, 1:05:16.240 --> 1:05:20.600 why are tapping not the president? They first, They said 1:05:20.640 --> 1:05:22.760 it first, and it turns out and we'll learn this 1:05:22.920 --> 1:05:24.800 later in the program. Don't miss this interview at the 1:05:24.840 --> 1:05:26.880 last half hour of the show today, John Solomon and 1:05:26.880 --> 1:05:29.800 Sarah Carter. They have a piece that confirms the FISA 1:05:29.840 --> 1:05:33.520 warrant was issued. They go into great specificity in detail. 1:05:33.840 --> 1:05:37.280 It did target servers at Trump Tower. I do know 1:05:37.400 --> 1:05:40.480 the servers for the campaign or in Trump Tower. And 1:05:40.520 --> 1:05:43.160 there's no way on God's green Earth that President Obama 1:05:43.200 --> 1:05:45.160 didn't know about it. He may not have warded it, 1:05:45.200 --> 1:05:47.120 but he knew about it. And that is the question 1:05:47.120 --> 1:05:48.960 that he should have been asked, and everyone runs with 1:05:49.000 --> 1:05:51.760 the statement and says the president lied, No, there was surveillance. 1:05:51.800 --> 1:05:54.520 According to John Solomon, he worked twenty years for the 1:05:54.560 --> 1:05:57.520 AP and Sarah Carter and both spend time at the 1:05:57.560 --> 1:06:01.919 Washington Times, reputable mainstream news paper, that they're saying, yeah, 1:06:02.240 --> 1:06:04.920 the in fact, the Fieser warrant was issued, and they 1:06:04.960 --> 1:06:07.480 found out in the Fiser warrant that in fact they 1:06:07.760 --> 1:06:10.320 targeted servers in Trump Tower. So maybe he was wrong 1:06:10.320 --> 1:06:12.840 and say wire tapping. But now we're just dealing with 1:06:12.880 --> 1:06:19.440 a technicality for crying out loud and it's driving me insane. Alright, one, Shawn, 1:06:19.520 --> 1:06:21.800 if you want to be a part of the program, 1:06:21.840 --> 1:06:24.320 all right, when we come back, News Round Up, Information Overload. 1:06:24.320 --> 1:06:28.280 Congressman Jim Jordan, Congressman Dave Bratt, both against the healthcare bill, 1:06:28.400 --> 1:06:30.960 and Dr Josh Umber, who came up with one of 1:06:31.000 --> 1:07:04.120 the most innovative, creative solutions. That's all coming up next val. 1:07:09.760 --> 1:07:15.160 This is monumental, exciting conservative reform that fixes these problems. 1:07:15.320 --> 1:07:18.320 I've been working on this for twenty years. This is exciting. Well, 1:07:18.320 --> 1:07:22.280 our plan is different. The House plan is Obamacarelite, keeps subsidies, 1:07:22.360 --> 1:07:26.200 keeps taxes, actually keeps an individual mandate. I think amidst 1:07:26.360 --> 1:07:29.760 the horse excrement, we can find a pony around here 1:07:29.800 --> 1:07:35.200 somewhere holding them accountable. Sean gets the answers no one 1:07:35.320 --> 1:07:42.320 else does. Freedom is back in style. Welcome to the Revolution, 1:07:53.800 --> 1:07:58.760 New Shawn Entity Show behind the scenes, information on breaking 1:07:58.840 --> 1:08:04.840 news and are bold inspired solutions for America. Stay right 1:08:04.840 --> 1:08:08.360 here for our final news round up and information overload 1:08:08.600 --> 1:08:11.680 and our top story. What is emerging as an intramural 1:08:11.760 --> 1:08:15.840 battle even verging on the the the precipice of a 1:08:15.880 --> 1:08:18.920 civil war over this healthcare bill. Congressman Jim Jordan of 1:08:18.960 --> 1:08:22.160 Ohio is with us, and he's one of the founders. 1:08:22.200 --> 1:08:25.519 Former chairman of the Freedom Caucus. Congressman Dave Bratt is 1:08:25.560 --> 1:08:28.360 with us as well. Congressman for Virginia, also with the 1:08:28.360 --> 1:08:31.280 Freedom Caucus, and also Dr Josh umber of Atlas M. 1:08:31.360 --> 1:08:34.000 D Out of Wichita, Kansas, who I've been talking a 1:08:34.000 --> 1:08:36.880 lot about. And Uh, Congressman Bratt, let me begin with you, 1:08:36.960 --> 1:08:40.360 and Congressman Jordan will begin with you as well. Uh. 1:08:40.400 --> 1:08:43.320 Here's what I don't understand. I interviewed all of you, 1:08:43.640 --> 1:08:47.760 I interviewed other Freedom Caucus colleagues. All of you had 1:08:47.800 --> 1:08:51.840 concerns before they released this bill. All of you expressed them, 1:08:51.960 --> 1:08:54.200 articulated them, and he didn't even have access to it. 1:08:54.240 --> 1:08:55.880 But the things you were hearing were in the bill. 1:08:56.120 --> 1:08:58.479 Then the bill is released, the President sent out to 1:08:58.520 --> 1:09:01.040 sell the bill, and none of you guys at the 1:09:01.080 --> 1:09:03.799 Freedom Caucus and there are enough of you to stop 1:09:03.840 --> 1:09:07.080 this bill from ever becoming law. And I don't understand 1:09:07.080 --> 1:09:10.360 why things weren't fixed before the bill was released. Can 1:09:10.400 --> 1:09:13.920 you explain that, Congressman Brett? Yeah, Well, the language was 1:09:13.960 --> 1:09:17.400 strong early on, and as Jim Jordan's always says, we 1:09:17.439 --> 1:09:19.519 need to do promise we're gonna do. And so the 1:09:19.520 --> 1:09:23.240 promise was very clear, we're gonna repeal Obamacare. President Trump 1:09:23.360 --> 1:09:26.799 land on, we're gonna repeal Obamacare. And we all voted 1:09:26.840 --> 1:09:30.280 on a full repeal of Obamacare, and all Republicans voted yes, 1:09:30.360 --> 1:09:32.280 and the House and the Senate a year ago. And 1:09:32.360 --> 1:09:35.280 so now, uh, the voters are just learning what's going on, 1:09:35.360 --> 1:09:38.560 and it turns out we're not going to repeal Obamacare. 1:09:38.680 --> 1:09:41.719 And so the language in d C. And you're familiar 1:09:41.720 --> 1:09:43.840 with you do with politicians talking to you all that 1:09:44.200 --> 1:09:46.160 it all hinges on that word. If you get rid 1:09:46.240 --> 1:09:48.400 of Obamacare, you get rid of the regulation, and so 1:09:48.520 --> 1:09:51.200 we assumed that's what's gonna be in the Leadership bill. 1:09:51.200 --> 1:09:53.360 We're gonna repeal Obamacare. We're gonna get rid of the rags. 1:09:53.400 --> 1:09:55.559 We're geting get rid of his Bronze Plan, Silver Plan, 1:09:55.640 --> 1:09:57.920 all that. We're gonna get rid of all the stuff disciples, 1:09:57.960 --> 1:10:01.240 you're individual choice, and instead of just dealing with coverage issues, 1:10:01.240 --> 1:10:03.920 which is what Obamacare did, we're gonna finally focus on 1:10:04.040 --> 1:10:07.639 getting the price of healthcare down by getting people the freedom. 1:10:07.680 --> 1:10:09.880 But but but I don't understand that. You know, now 1:10:09.920 --> 1:10:12.400 there's gonna be a big public fight over this. Although 1:10:12.439 --> 1:10:14.839 I heard that you guys are meeting with the president 1:10:14.920 --> 1:10:18.280 later this evening or sometime today. Is that true? Today, 1:10:20.080 --> 1:10:22.519 get to meet with you tomorrow, Sean. And you met 1:10:22.560 --> 1:10:25.240 with the Vice president yesterday, and as the Vice president 1:10:25.320 --> 1:10:28.280 sympathetic to your point of view, Congressman Jordan's yeah, he said, Look, 1:10:28.320 --> 1:10:29.880 this is this is the start of the debate, and 1:10:29.920 --> 1:10:32.680 this is how it works in American government, in American democracy. 1:10:32.800 --> 1:10:34.439 You got a bill and now it's time to debate it. 1:10:34.479 --> 1:10:36.680 I mean, frankly, the bill is introduced about thirty six 1:10:36.720 --> 1:10:38.519 hours ago and they're already marking it up. I don't 1:10:38.520 --> 1:10:40.639 know that. Well, I don't understand. But tell me. Maybe 1:10:40.680 --> 1:10:42.840 I'm just because I'm not a Washington guy. Maybe I 1:10:42.880 --> 1:10:46.360 just think differently. Why if I if I'm putting out 1:10:46.439 --> 1:10:49.320 a bill and I know that a significant portion of 1:10:49.360 --> 1:10:52.240 the caucus doesn't like the bill, that, why wouldn't I 1:10:52.400 --> 1:10:56.240 resolve those issues behind closed doors together as a team, 1:10:56.600 --> 1:10:59.160 come to consensus. Not everybody's not going to get everything 1:10:59.200 --> 1:11:01.760 they want, but at least do it behind closed doors. 1:11:01.840 --> 1:11:04.040 And then maybe when you release the bill, and maybe 1:11:04.080 --> 1:11:07.400 this is just you know, you know, but the President 1:11:07.439 --> 1:11:09.960 goes out with all of you guys, every Republican in 1:11:10.000 --> 1:11:11.720 the House, and sent it behind him and says, we 1:11:11.800 --> 1:11:14.280 all agree, this is our bill. This will fix Obamacare, 1:11:14.360 --> 1:11:16.720 repeal it, and replace it as we promised. Why not 1:11:16.760 --> 1:11:18.960 do it that way? I guess I've guess I'm way 1:11:18.960 --> 1:11:21.120 out of touch of I thought that target and we 1:11:21.120 --> 1:11:23.839 would have appreciated that, But that wasn't what happened. Remember, 1:11:23.840 --> 1:11:25.840 we had the leak version a few weeks ago, and 1:11:25.840 --> 1:11:27.719 we were critical of that fact. We took a position 1:11:27.760 --> 1:11:30.639 against the leaks version a few weeks ago, and then 1:11:30.680 --> 1:11:32.679 loaning the whole thirty or six hours ago, we find 1:11:32.680 --> 1:11:36.320 out the introduced version is not in any ways really 1:11:36.320 --> 1:11:38.519 different from the leak version, so that it would have 1:11:38.520 --> 1:11:40.200 been nice if we could have got together and support 1:11:40.200 --> 1:11:41.760 a plan. So what we're doing to say now all 1:11:41.800 --> 1:11:44.040 of you go out yesterday and publicly say you can't 1:11:44.040 --> 1:11:46.240 support the bill, and then their answer as well, with 1:11:46.439 --> 1:11:49.439 this is coming out in three phases, When when couldn't 1:11:49.439 --> 1:11:51.760 it all have been done united in one phase. That's 1:11:51.800 --> 1:11:54.760 my frustration, And with all due respect to Congress, you 1:11:54.760 --> 1:11:56.519 guys have had eight years of saying you're going to 1:11:56.600 --> 1:11:58.400 repeal and replace this, and we still don't have a 1:11:58.439 --> 1:12:02.360 consensus plan. We sean here's the contents plan. Is the 1:12:02.439 --> 1:12:06.000 plan we introduced. We introduced today. We introduced the build 1:12:06.000 --> 1:12:07.920 that says do the same thing we did a year ago, 1:12:07.920 --> 1:12:11.200 will clean repeal, and then a separate piece of legislation 1:12:11.400 --> 1:12:14.160 which is replaced with what will what what Da've talked about, 1:12:14.160 --> 1:12:16.080 which will bring down the cost of insurance. That is 1:12:16.120 --> 1:12:18.719 the only plan consistent with what we told the voters. 1:12:19.560 --> 1:12:22.320 This plan is not. This plan says we're gonna repeal Obomecare, 1:12:22.360 --> 1:12:24.800 but we're going to keep the Obamacare taxes in place. 1:12:24.880 --> 1:12:27.280 It says we're gonna repeal Obomecare, but we're gonna take 1:12:27.320 --> 1:12:29.960 the Medicaid expansion and extend it. And it also says 1:12:29.960 --> 1:12:32.679 we're repeal Obamacare, but we're going to keep in place 1:12:32.800 --> 1:12:35.680 this mandate in a different form, which is sure sur 1:12:35.840 --> 1:12:39.200 charge of insurance can charge you. So that's that's not 1:12:39.360 --> 1:12:41.439 what we told the voters. So we make this way 1:12:41.439 --> 1:12:43.840 too complicated. You know, Alwa said in our plan, I 1:12:43.960 --> 1:12:48.280 just you guys have this has become a nightmare headache 1:12:48.320 --> 1:12:51.479 that need not have happened. This is an unforced error 1:12:51.520 --> 1:12:54.559 in my mind. Now the reason I brought Dr Josh Umbern. 1:12:54.640 --> 1:12:57.720 He's out of Wichita, Kansas. Uh dr Rumbers say hi 1:12:57.840 --> 1:13:01.960 to Congressman Jim Jordan's Congressman Day Bratt. Uh dr Umberg 1:13:02.040 --> 1:13:05.080 has come up with a cooperative system. Can you just 1:13:05.240 --> 1:13:08.040 in a as shorter way as you can a synopsis 1:13:08.080 --> 1:13:10.840 of what you do down there and how big this is? Absolutely? 1:13:10.920 --> 1:13:14.200 Uh we have fixed healthcare with the free market and 1:13:14.280 --> 1:13:17.960 the shortest way. Um yeah. Again, we need to change 1:13:17.960 --> 1:13:20.400 the conversation over to what we actually need to ensure 1:13:20.439 --> 1:13:23.040 because what Shawn's talking about is our business model of 1:13:23.160 --> 1:13:26.439 insurance free for primary care, ten dollars for kids, fifty 1:13:26.439 --> 1:13:30.000 dollars months for adults, for unlimited offices. It's no co pays, 1:13:30.120 --> 1:13:34.400 free procedures, wholesale meadicine labs up to saving And did 1:13:34.400 --> 1:13:37.320 you negotiate with the labs and the pharmaceutical companies to 1:13:37.320 --> 1:13:41.280 get discount? Absolutely? And you were able to make deals 1:13:41.320 --> 1:13:43.720 with them on on the drugs that most people use, 1:13:43.760 --> 1:13:47.040 you know, like see Alice and Viagra. I'm kidding, like 1:13:47.040 --> 1:13:49.640 like like like, by the way, isn't that the se 1:13:49.720 --> 1:13:51.960 Alos commercial the dumbest thing you've ever seen. You've got 1:13:51.960 --> 1:13:54.000 a guy in one tub and a woman in another tub, 1:13:54.040 --> 1:13:58.040 and I'm like, they're holding hands across the tubs. It's yeah, 1:13:58.400 --> 1:14:01.560 apparently some doctors. This is not my area of expertise, 1:14:01.920 --> 1:14:05.120 but but I'm talking about serious blood pressure medicine and 1:14:05.280 --> 1:14:10.680 cholesterol medicine in other words, chemotherapy, cholesteral messin, diabetic. If 1:14:10.720 --> 1:14:12.920 you imagine, we all know the health care system is broken, 1:14:12.960 --> 1:14:14.880 we all talked about the waste, but then when there 1:14:14.920 --> 1:14:17.800 actually is an opportunity to show those savings, I think 1:14:17.840 --> 1:14:21.360 somehow we are resistant to that idea. Taking how many 1:14:21.400 --> 1:14:23.680 people are part of your practice. How many people do 1:14:23.760 --> 1:14:26.680 you and your practice serve In the Wichita area, we 1:14:26.760 --> 1:14:29.360 have five doctors aren't practice and each doctor is close 1:14:29.400 --> 1:14:33.080 to six under patients have unlimited care. I could walk 1:14:33.080 --> 1:14:35.480 into your office is as a member of your cooperative 1:14:35.479 --> 1:14:37.639 any day and if I need stitches, if I need 1:14:37.680 --> 1:14:40.240 a test, if I'm going to get it done that day, 1:14:40.280 --> 1:14:44.519 that day, you have seven access to your doctor by phone, text, email. 1:14:44.920 --> 1:14:47.519 We we broughten the idea of what care is because 1:14:47.560 --> 1:14:49.000 now you don't have to just come in and pay 1:14:49.000 --> 1:14:51.120 for a copay, you don't even have to leave work, 1:14:51.439 --> 1:14:55.519 and even you even offer some cancer treatment. But god forbid, 1:14:55.600 --> 1:14:58.680 somebody gets in a bad accident, if somebody has a 1:14:58.720 --> 1:15:02.439 heart attack, if if or if they need chemo, you know, 1:15:02.479 --> 1:15:04.519 you could even give them the chemo. But they can 1:15:04.560 --> 1:15:07.439 get catastrophic insurance that would cover all of those really 1:15:07.439 --> 1:15:11.280 big items that maybe a local office couldn't handle. It 1:15:11.320 --> 1:15:14.080 truly is the perfect blend there where where we want 1:15:14.160 --> 1:15:16.559 to work with insurance companies. We understand that they're a 1:15:16.600 --> 1:15:19.880 critical uh part of the system, but we needed to 1:15:19.920 --> 1:15:23.160 work more efficiently. Again, we are pro efficiency, not anti 1:15:23.160 --> 1:15:27.560 government or anti insurance. So the insurance companies are actually healthier, 1:15:27.880 --> 1:15:30.840 more profitable by working with this model because their waste 1:15:30.920 --> 1:15:34.040 goes down. And how many other doctors around the country 1:15:34.080 --> 1:15:37.600 did you educate them on this model and they've duplicated it. 1:15:37.960 --> 1:15:40.920 We've personally helped over two doctors convert to this mall 1:15:40.960 --> 1:15:42.519 in the last two and a half years, but there's 1:15:42.560 --> 1:15:45.759 probably five hundred to a thousand doing it or starting 1:15:45.800 --> 1:15:49.160 it is a wave of coming across the country because 1:15:49.160 --> 1:15:53.479 patients and employers are you know, maybe I'm just a 1:15:53.600 --> 1:15:56.040 dumb old talk show host congress from brad but you know, 1:15:56.080 --> 1:15:58.120 what the hell do I know? But that sounds like 1:15:58.160 --> 1:16:01.719 a genius idea to me that benefit everybody. Why can't 1:16:01.720 --> 1:16:04.080 we dumplicate that? Well, that's the free market. That's what 1:16:04.120 --> 1:16:07.600 the free market does, right. It takes creativity and innovation 1:16:08.120 --> 1:16:10.680 and allows you to execute without having to go through 1:16:10.680 --> 1:16:13.120 the red tape. So the doctor is a genius. He 1:16:13.320 --> 1:16:15.800 just told the country the solution the rest of the 1:16:15.800 --> 1:16:19.200 world who can't afford our exorbitant insurance, that's the way 1:16:19.240 --> 1:16:21.960 they operate. That's how healthcare is always operated. And that's 1:16:22.000 --> 1:16:24.840 the exactive doctor whose reputation is good at low costs 1:16:24.840 --> 1:16:26.320 are going to be good for you and your family, 1:16:26.360 --> 1:16:29.200 and you pay for it. If I'd be a part 1:16:29.200 --> 1:16:31.519 of this cooperative, That's what I would do, And then 1:16:31.520 --> 1:16:36.800 you can decrease employer's insurance by thirty I wanted to 1:16:36.800 --> 1:16:38.519 say that as the doctor list at the leadership plan, 1:16:38.640 --> 1:16:42.639 because the leadership plan, of my judgment, is subsidizing unaffordable insurance. 1:16:42.680 --> 1:16:44.839 It's it's like in your tail and just keep striving 1:16:44.880 --> 1:16:47.000 up costs. That you agree, doctor, I would agree. The 1:16:47.000 --> 1:16:51.400 Republicans are guilty of the sin of unoriginality. Um, they 1:16:51.560 --> 1:16:54.639 took something, they spun it around, they put a new 1:16:54.680 --> 1:16:57.200 hat on it, but it hasn't changed. It's not making 1:16:57.240 --> 1:17:00.479 health care great again exactly. Is more of the same aim. 1:17:00.520 --> 1:17:03.759 What we really need is to have a conversation that um, 1:17:03.920 --> 1:17:07.519 most care can be provided outside of insurance rule. Here. 1:17:07.600 --> 1:17:10.960 Insurance is still a vital part of that, but now 1:17:11.160 --> 1:17:15.280 we can afford to do have less insurance help employers. 1:17:15.280 --> 1:17:18.040 If a certain percent of small business or certain percent 1:17:18.080 --> 1:17:20.759 of jobs come from small businesses, and we can decrease 1:17:20.840 --> 1:17:24.519 insurance cost by thirty six for small businesses, Trump could 1:17:24.560 --> 1:17:27.200 have an economic boom. The likes that Reagan would be 1:17:27.280 --> 1:17:30.599 jealous of if we could fix that going forward, and 1:17:30.600 --> 1:17:32.800 then there'd be more jobs, more people have health care, 1:17:32.800 --> 1:17:35.080 and more people have everything they need. But then we're 1:17:35.120 --> 1:17:38.519 even more efficient for Medicaid dollars. Block grant that out 1:17:38.560 --> 1:17:41.639 to the states, let them do fifty experiments. But if 1:17:41.640 --> 1:17:43.800 the state's paying fifty dollars for a blood test that 1:17:43.880 --> 1:17:47.599 I get for a dollar sixty five today, then then 1:17:47.640 --> 1:17:49.720 we can do a whole lot more blood tests for 1:17:49.800 --> 1:17:53.160 Medicaid while at the same time being but this is 1:17:53.240 --> 1:17:56.679 unbelievable to me. And you know, I have passed dr 1:17:56.760 --> 1:18:00.360 numbers name and number onto a lot of important people, 1:18:00.439 --> 1:18:02.240 and nobody's gotten in touch with you as far as 1:18:02.280 --> 1:18:04.360 I know, your doctor, right, you're the only one leading 1:18:04.360 --> 1:18:07.720 the charge. This is all coming down on on your shoulders. 1:18:07.720 --> 1:18:11.439 Broad maybe a lot. You know how many teams, you 1:18:11.439 --> 1:18:14.280 know how many people hate me today? Uh? Well, maybe 1:18:14.360 --> 1:18:16.839 maybe more, but but least now they have good reasons 1:18:16.880 --> 1:18:19.400 because you're trying to fix something that not everybody wants 1:18:19.400 --> 1:18:21.320 to fix. Congressman Jordan, are you're trying to get into 1:18:21.400 --> 1:18:24.519 Is that from Dave Bratt here and the doctor You're 1:18:24.560 --> 1:18:27.799 making a point, right, and in every economics textbook across 1:18:27.840 --> 1:18:31.120 the country. The fundamental error slipped in, and the doctor 1:18:31.160 --> 1:18:35.519 just talked about the rule insurance is for insuring catastrophic event. 1:18:35.680 --> 1:18:37.720 But when when after World War Two we went to 1:18:37.760 --> 1:18:41.240 the employer provided healthcare deal, then you start with its 1:18:41.320 --> 1:18:44.679 few ensuring all of healthcare provisions. So then you put 1:18:44.720 --> 1:18:47.599 your co pay in and everything else is free to you. 1:18:48.040 --> 1:18:50.120 And once you co pay and the rest is free, well, 1:18:50.120 --> 1:18:52.639 guess what you do. You over consume, right, And that's 1:18:52.680 --> 1:18:56.280 the fundamental problem in healthcare. And so the doctor is saying, 1:18:56.360 --> 1:18:58.880 let's break that up and let's get insurance back to 1:18:58.920 --> 1:19:01.360 being what it's supposed to be. Four and then let's 1:19:01.400 --> 1:19:03.120 let people put money in their H s a s 1:19:03.200 --> 1:19:06.080 And pay for just regular healthcare. Al Right, guys, stay 1:19:06.240 --> 1:19:09.559 stay right there. We're gonna continue. Freedom Caucus members Dave Bratt, 1:19:09.680 --> 1:19:12.760 Jim Jordan's and Dr josh Umberg will take a quick break. 1:19:12.760 --> 1:19:15.479 We'll get to more of your calls and the final 1:19:15.520 --> 1:19:17.439 half hour. Way, do you hear the story we're about 1:19:17.479 --> 1:19:21.040 to break. There is no Russia connection. I'll explain with 1:19:21.120 --> 1:19:26.559 the reporters breaking the story. That's next to America and 1:19:26.720 --> 1:19:32.559 American's first. Now there's a novel idea. You're on the 1:19:32.760 --> 1:19:59.960 sean alright, as we continue, Congressman Jim Jordans of Ohio 1:20:00.000 --> 1:20:03.360 o in, Congressman Dave Bratt of Virginia and Dr Josh 1:20:03.439 --> 1:20:07.200 Umber which Kansas Atlas Medical or Atlas m D. Right 1:20:07.280 --> 1:20:10.439 now that we've heard Dr Rumber explain all of these things, 1:20:10.720 --> 1:20:13.400 Congressman Jordan and Congressman Brad, I guess the question for 1:20:13.439 --> 1:20:18.040 you is how do we get not only healthcare savings accounts, 1:20:18.080 --> 1:20:21.519 a full repeal, get rid of another entitlement, and get 1:20:21.560 --> 1:20:24.439 these cooperatives as part of the solution. Because it sounds 1:20:24.479 --> 1:20:27.120 so amazing to me, and it's being duplicated sort of 1:20:27.240 --> 1:20:30.640 underneath the the healthcare system that we have. Now, how 1:20:30.680 --> 1:20:33.680 does this all get incorporated based on the release of 1:20:33.720 --> 1:20:35.640 this bill. Well, the first thing you gotta doution on 1:20:35.840 --> 1:20:38.840 is repeal Obamacare. I'm sure the doctor would agree with us. 1:20:38.960 --> 1:20:41.439 You can do free market until you get rid of 1:20:41.479 --> 1:20:44.000 the Affordable Care Act, which has driven up the cost. 1:20:44.040 --> 1:20:46.400 Youer choices higher cost. You have to get rid of that. 1:20:46.479 --> 1:20:48.840 So that's why we have to clean repill. You do that, 1:20:49.000 --> 1:20:51.920 you repeal it, and then you focus on passing legislation 1:20:52.200 --> 1:20:54.560 that would empower people in the car. Are you confident 1:20:54.600 --> 1:20:56.799 that you can get to the president the vice president 1:20:56.880 --> 1:20:59.519 and get this done right? Because here's the problem, Congressman 1:20:59.600 --> 1:21:02.920 Jordan's if as soon as you repeal and replace, you 1:21:02.960 --> 1:21:05.800 own it, Republicans own it, the President owns it. If 1:21:05.800 --> 1:21:09.080 it doesn't work, the blame will come on all of you. Right, Well, 1:21:09.120 --> 1:21:12.160 we'll understand to repeal the effective day. We said we're 1:21:12.160 --> 1:21:15.080 going to repeal it, but it's effective on December thirty, 1:21:15.360 --> 1:21:17.040 two thousand eighteen. So you've got to have an offer 1:21:17.080 --> 1:21:19.360 him so you can begin to form a market and 1:21:19.560 --> 1:21:23.160 people the transparency that exists under under the Doctor's program, 1:21:23.240 --> 1:21:25.320 that that that will exist in the full market. You 1:21:25.360 --> 1:21:27.000 have to give us some time for that. That's what 1:21:27.120 --> 1:21:30.240 we passed just a year ago. So we're saying, why 1:21:30.280 --> 1:21:32.559 not do what we all said we were going to do, 1:21:32.720 --> 1:21:35.760 what we all voted for. Get rid of what is 1:21:35.800 --> 1:21:38.200 the answer that the leadership in the House and senator 1:21:38.240 --> 1:21:40.600 giving you, because that's not what they wrote. It's what 1:21:40.680 --> 1:21:42.840 John Casey talks about. And so we got to make 1:21:42.880 --> 1:21:45.280 sure these folks on medicate medicaid can stay there. This 1:21:45.400 --> 1:21:48.080 expanded population. We can extend that and we can put 1:21:48.080 --> 1:21:50.519 more people on Medicaid. The approach we would prefer is no, 1:21:50.520 --> 1:21:52.720 no, no no, no, Let's bring back a market Let's bring 1:21:52.760 --> 1:21:55.639 back affordable insurance. Instead of measuring success is how many 1:21:55.680 --> 1:21:58.280 folks who can keep on this government medicaid program. Why 1:21:58.320 --> 1:22:00.720 don't we measure success by bringing back a marketplace like 1:22:00.760 --> 1:22:03.080 the doctors doing in Kansas and have more people get 1:22:03.120 --> 1:22:05.640 the insurance they need for catastrophic care and then have 1:22:05.760 --> 1:22:07.559 the kind of health care they need at low cost 1:22:07.800 --> 1:22:10.800 with good quality. What about those that are saying that 1:22:10.840 --> 1:22:16.400 there are well, I guess congressional legislative obstacles because the 1:22:16.400 --> 1:22:20.320 original Obamacare was passed by reconciliation. Nor do they feel 1:22:20.320 --> 1:22:22.479 that they're gonna get eight Democrats in the Senate to 1:22:22.920 --> 1:22:25.439 buy into what the Republicans do. How's what's your answer 1:22:25.479 --> 1:22:29.280 to that? That's a legitimate concern, and I understand that. 1:22:29.320 --> 1:22:31.640 But we're also hearing that Dr Price at HHS is 1:22:31.640 --> 1:22:33.599 going to be able to change some rules and help 1:22:33.680 --> 1:22:36.000 us with the regulations that are driving up the costs. 1:22:36.000 --> 1:22:38.040 There's a lot of discretion in the healthcare bill that 1:22:38.080 --> 1:22:40.439 he can change almost everything. So let him do that. 1:22:40.560 --> 1:22:43.120 Nothing that nothing work. We're doing would preclude him from 1:22:43.160 --> 1:22:46.240 doing just that. All we're saying is repeal Obamacare effective 1:22:46.280 --> 1:22:48.479 date in two years, time for the marketplace to start 1:22:48.479 --> 1:22:50.639 to form. Let dr price, get rid of the regulations. 1:22:50.680 --> 1:22:53.000 I will bring down the cost of insurance, and then 1:22:53.080 --> 1:22:56.880 let's pass the legislation in the normal legislative process. Health 1:22:56.880 --> 1:22:59.200 saving the Accounts Association, health plans, the things that will 1:22:59.240 --> 1:23:01.360 help with the mark a place and help bring back 1:23:01.560 --> 1:23:05.400 affordable insurance. That's like a reasonable plan. Congressman Brad will 1:23:05.439 --> 1:23:08.599 give you a final word here. You have ten seconds. Yeah. Well, 1:23:08.640 --> 1:23:11.880 and and you know President Trump is from New York, 1:23:11.960 --> 1:23:13.840 You've got the big heart. And so he says, look, 1:23:13.880 --> 1:23:16.040 we want to take care of everybody. And I think 1:23:16.160 --> 1:23:18.439 that's part of the big tension here, right, And so 1:23:18.560 --> 1:23:20.680 you're talking about breakaway in the Senate. We want to 1:23:20.680 --> 1:23:22.640 cover everybody. What you got to do it the right way. 1:23:22.680 --> 1:23:24.600 So where Jim just laid out with the Dodger just 1:23:24.680 --> 1:23:27.400 laid out, that's the best health care system. And then 1:23:27.680 --> 1:23:31.000 about about five of the serious cases, right, the pre 1:23:31.000 --> 1:23:33.960 existing conditions account for over half of health care spending 1:23:33.960 --> 1:23:36.920 in the country. So that's a separable issue where the 1:23:37.000 --> 1:23:39.559 President could still say, look, we're gonna take care if 1:23:39.600 --> 1:23:43.320 we have compassions. But you don't arrange the whole healthcare 1:23:43.400 --> 1:23:46.160 architecture for the whole country based on five percent of 1:23:46.200 --> 1:23:49.000 the people. You say, look, here's our safety net, here 1:23:49.000 --> 1:23:51.120 the welfare programs we have, here's what we're gonna do 1:23:51.160 --> 1:23:53.920 for pre existing and you can take those a lot, 1:23:53.960 --> 1:23:55.960 grant the money to the states to take care of that, 1:23:56.080 --> 1:23:58.400 and then Trump's a win win win across the board. 1:23:58.640 --> 1:24:00.240 I hope you'll tell that to the President when you 1:24:00.240 --> 1:24:03.360 meet with them tomorrow. Thank you, Congressman Jordan's, Congressman Bratt, 1:24:03.400 --> 1:24:05.280 and Dr Humber. Good to talk to you all. Eight 1:24:05.320 --> 1:24:08.479 hundred nine for one, Shawn Tolfrey telephone number. Way do 1:24:08.560 --> 1:24:12.559 you hear the investigative report that just broke John Solomon, 1:24:12.720 --> 1:24:15.639 Sarah Carter and what they have come up with here 1:24:16.120 --> 1:24:19.920 explaining the FBI found no criminal activity between the Trump 1:24:19.960 --> 1:24:23.840 campaign and Russia. They confirm a FISA warrant was issue 1:24:23.920 --> 1:24:27.120 in October, and they confirmed that Donald Trump, his entire 1:24:27.200 --> 1:24:31.360 campaign was surveiled in the closing weeks of that campaign. 1:24:31.439 --> 1:25:03.080 That's next Holy accountable, Sean, The answers no one else 1:25:03.280 --> 1:25:11.360 does desertion the truth about Congress. Alright now until the 1:25:11.400 --> 1:25:14.040 top of the hour one, Shawn, if you want to 1:25:14.040 --> 1:25:17.120 be a part of the program. So many unanswered questions. 1:25:17.160 --> 1:25:19.479 Here's what we do know as it relates to all 1:25:19.520 --> 1:25:23.080 the leaking that's gone on. We heard and we know 1:25:23.200 --> 1:25:26.240 the New York Times, and we know the BBC, and 1:25:26.320 --> 1:25:30.759 we know McClatchy, and we know other news networks, Washington Post, 1:25:30.920 --> 1:25:34.639 they all talked about wire tapping at Trump Tower. And 1:25:34.800 --> 1:25:38.040 we heard about the June request that was supposedly denied, 1:25:38.080 --> 1:25:41.400 as it relates to a fiser request ultimately culminating in 1:25:41.439 --> 1:25:45.120 a more modified request that was granted in October. Again, 1:25:45.280 --> 1:25:48.920 this would be people within the Obama administration. And Obama's 1:25:48.960 --> 1:25:51.760 statement was was more than part when he said he 1:25:51.960 --> 1:25:54.880 or nobody at the White House ordered any type of 1:25:55.240 --> 1:25:59.200 spying or surveillance on Donald Trump and Trump Tower. Well, 1:25:59.240 --> 1:26:02.000 there's a block us. The article out today and it's 1:26:02.040 --> 1:26:06.000 written co written by John Solomon and Sarah Carter. And 1:26:06.000 --> 1:26:08.919 what's fascinating about this is, well, you have John Solomon 1:26:09.040 --> 1:26:12.320 is an award winning investigative journalist, chief operating officer at 1:26:12.360 --> 1:26:17.240 Circa dot Com. Sarah Carter, senior national correspondent there as well. Um, 1:26:17.320 --> 1:26:18.920 thank you both of me with us. John, didn't you 1:26:18.960 --> 1:26:21.760 wipe for the A P for a long time years? 1:26:21.880 --> 1:26:24.280 Twenty years? And what other places did you work before 1:26:24.320 --> 1:26:26.320 you you went to where you are now. I worked 1:26:26.320 --> 1:26:28.240 out with the editor of the Washingtime for many years. 1:26:28.400 --> 1:26:31.920 And Sarah, what's your background? Oh, I traveled all over 1:26:32.000 --> 1:26:34.479 worked with John at the Washington Times. I sent most 1:26:34.520 --> 1:26:36.599 of my time on the US Mexico border and then 1:26:36.680 --> 1:26:40.080 later in Afghanistan and Iraq. And I cover national security 1:26:40.080 --> 1:26:43.479 now for John here at CERCA dot com and within 1:26:43.479 --> 1:26:46.080 Claire Broadcast Group. Now, in this piece, tell me if 1:26:46.120 --> 1:26:49.840 I'm reading it properly, you both confirmed that a surveillance 1:26:49.880 --> 1:26:53.879 warrant was issued for the main server at Trump Towers. 1:26:53.920 --> 1:26:57.240 That true. I'm not sure it was the main service, Sean, 1:26:57.280 --> 1:26:58.720 but it was a server that had to do with 1:26:58.800 --> 1:27:01.439 email marketing, and the FBI wanted to take a look 1:27:01.439 --> 1:27:03.519 at it because it was appearing to have some sort 1:27:03.520 --> 1:27:05.920 of communication with a Russian entity. Well, I know as 1:27:05.960 --> 1:27:09.280 a matter of fact that everybody in the campaign, with 1:27:09.479 --> 1:27:12.599 maybe one or two exceptions that I know, all got 1:27:12.640 --> 1:27:15.280 on the Trump email in other words, that the Trump 1:27:15.400 --> 1:27:19.439 organization email server. So there is a possibility that everything 1:27:19.479 --> 1:27:24.559 involving the campaign was possibly surveiled once that FISA warrant 1:27:24.600 --> 1:27:27.760 was issued. Is that possible. It's possible, though. Our understanding 1:27:27.800 --> 1:27:30.519 is that this this server was actually narrowly construed to 1:27:30.520 --> 1:27:34.560 do email marketing. It predated the campaign and wasn't specifically 1:27:34.640 --> 1:27:36.840 a server that was used for campaign email. That's that's 1:27:36.840 --> 1:27:39.519 our understanding. Okay, then let's talk a little bit about 1:27:39.600 --> 1:27:42.559 what you discovered, Sarah. Yeah, one of the things that 1:27:42.600 --> 1:27:46.120 we discovered was that actually this investigation into the server 1:27:46.400 --> 1:27:49.880 was very brief. It was a very brief investigation, and 1:27:49.920 --> 1:27:53.120 they found nothing in the server at that point in 1:27:53.200 --> 1:27:56.360 time that would warrant any kind of criminal charges towards 1:27:56.439 --> 1:28:00.439 anyone on the Trump team. I thought that was very interesting. Uh. 1:28:00.479 --> 1:28:03.960 They We also discovered throughout the process of this investigation 1:28:04.160 --> 1:28:06.599 that in the in June, we hear all these reports 1:28:06.640 --> 1:28:09.759 about a June fights are warrant. What we were told 1:28:09.840 --> 1:28:12.320 was absolutely not. There was no June fight a warrant 1:28:12.320 --> 1:28:16.680 with Trump's name on it um and they was there 1:28:16.680 --> 1:28:19.320 a request for the server? Was there a request of 1:28:19.439 --> 1:28:22.559 any kind brought to the FISA courts or no um. 1:28:22.600 --> 1:28:25.320 I believe John would John would know that part of 1:28:25.320 --> 1:28:28.000 the story much better. Yean, So I think in October 1:28:28.040 --> 1:28:29.559 they did go to the FIST at court and asked 1:28:29.560 --> 1:28:32.040 specifically to check the records of this one server that 1:28:32.080 --> 1:28:34.880 appeared to be corresponding with a bank in Russia. When 1:28:34.880 --> 1:28:36.640 they when they looked into it, they found out there 1:28:36.680 --> 1:28:40.040 was an innocuous explanation for the data things doing between 1:28:40.080 --> 1:28:41.800 New York and Russia and what other words, to do 1:28:41.840 --> 1:28:45.280 with Russian influence the media, Hillary Clinton, the Democratic Party, 1:28:45.400 --> 1:28:48.960 all the talk about Russia and the Trump campaign. They 1:28:49.000 --> 1:28:51.920 haven't found a shred of evidence at all, and yet 1:28:51.920 --> 1:28:55.880 the media keeps regurgitating this narrative. Is that true? That's true? 1:28:55.920 --> 1:28:57.599 And in fact, I think that's one of the reasons 1:28:57.600 --> 1:28:59.680 that our sources work so closely with us, which is 1:28:59.680 --> 1:29:02.320 to spell a narrative that the FBI has been obsessed 1:29:02.360 --> 1:29:05.120 with Trump connections to Russia. That we were told time 1:29:05.120 --> 1:29:07.120 and time again over the last few days that the 1:29:07.200 --> 1:29:11.280 FBI really only incidentally and on an off handed way, 1:29:11.280 --> 1:29:13.600 stumbled onto a couple of things that involved Trump, and 1:29:13.600 --> 1:29:15.840 that none of it has been a primary focus of 1:29:15.880 --> 1:29:18.559 the Russia hacking investigation. How high up can you tell 1:29:18.640 --> 1:29:21.000 us are your sources. In other words, for example, one 1:29:21.040 --> 1:29:23.280 official you quota saying I've never seen a case so 1:29:23.400 --> 1:29:26.400 misrepresented and leaks so damaging to a process that was 1:29:26.479 --> 1:29:29.200 meant to be conducted in secret, so that foreign powers 1:29:29.240 --> 1:29:33.440 don't know what we know and people's reputations aren't tarnished unfairly. 1:29:33.680 --> 1:29:35.519 It's a great question our sources are in a good 1:29:35.520 --> 1:29:37.719 position to know what was really going on as opposed 1:29:37.760 --> 1:29:39.600 to west been reported. And one of the things that 1:29:39.640 --> 1:29:41.800 we highlight in this story is that a lot of 1:29:41.800 --> 1:29:45.280 this leaking began right after President Obama, in his final 1:29:45.320 --> 1:29:48.280 hours in office, issued an executive order that allowed f 1:29:48.680 --> 1:29:51.439 and surveillance intelligence data to be shared with a lot 1:29:51.479 --> 1:29:53.959 more people than it normally had been shared within sixteen 1:29:53.960 --> 1:29:56.080 other agencies. But by the way, I've talked a lot about, 1:29:56.120 --> 1:29:59.000 this is an executive Order twelve three three, which had 1:29:59.040 --> 1:30:01.520 been on the books for some time, and what Obama 1:30:01.560 --> 1:30:04.080 did is add to that that executive order, and as 1:30:04.160 --> 1:30:06.519 much as he allowed the sharing of you know, signet 1:30:06.760 --> 1:30:09.400 intelligence in other words, when General Flynn when they were 1:30:09.640 --> 1:30:12.840 were surveiling, which they should do the Russian ambassador. Isn't 1:30:12.840 --> 1:30:15.559 it true that once an American is identified on such 1:30:15.560 --> 1:30:18.000 a call, that they're supposed to minimize the listening of 1:30:18.120 --> 1:30:20.960 the American speaking, and they're not supposed to identify that 1:30:21.040 --> 1:30:23.879 American and certainly not leak it. Aren't They all felonies 1:30:23.880 --> 1:30:27.640 and violations of the espionage actly not supposed to leak it. 1:30:27.720 --> 1:30:30.280 You're certainly not supposed to leak This type of classified 1:30:30.320 --> 1:30:34.479 information is guarded heavily. But I was told, Sarah, I 1:30:34.520 --> 1:30:38.200 was told by a very high ranking intelligence official that 1:30:38.560 --> 1:30:42.720 when they do surveil and Americans are identified, that they 1:30:42.720 --> 1:30:46.000 are to minimize the listening of the American because they 1:30:46.040 --> 1:30:48.360 don't have a warrant. And number two, when they write 1:30:48.400 --> 1:30:51.439 up their report, a standard operating procedure that they do 1:30:51.520 --> 1:30:53.880 not mention that person by name. They used the term 1:30:53.960 --> 1:31:00.360 generally an American General flynn Um at the time is 1:31:00.439 --> 1:31:03.639 under a security clearance. He has a high level security clearance. 1:31:03.680 --> 1:31:05.599 When you when you sign up for a high level 1:31:05.640 --> 1:31:08.519 security clearance, basically when you're granted one, you kind of 1:31:08.520 --> 1:31:10.760 find a way You're right, So the government has the 1:31:10.880 --> 1:31:15.360 right to surveil people with high level security clearances in 1:31:15.400 --> 1:31:18.200 an effort to minimize harm. For example, if you go 1:31:18.240 --> 1:31:22.400 back to the Robert Hanson situation with espionage and the FBI, 1:31:22.520 --> 1:31:26.240 So there is this kind of disclosure. But but all 1:31:26.280 --> 1:31:29.120 of that, all of that laid out, you still do 1:31:29.240 --> 1:31:34.920 not disclose any information on those type of classified monitoring, 1:31:35.160 --> 1:31:39.720 and that would be that would be a felony by 1:31:39.760 --> 1:31:43.840 my understanding of the Espionage Act. So certainly, General Flynn, Well, 1:31:43.920 --> 1:31:46.200 let me go back to the leaks. Do you both 1:31:46.200 --> 1:31:49.440 agree with me based on your understanding of the President 1:31:49.600 --> 1:31:54.040 fourteen days before leaving office revising Executive Order twelve three 1:31:54.120 --> 1:31:57.479 three three to allow the signet intelligence, like in the 1:31:57.520 --> 1:32:00.640 case of General Flynn, to be shared with sixteen other agencies. 1:32:00.800 --> 1:32:03.439 Could that have been done as a reason to make 1:32:03.439 --> 1:32:06.000 it more difficult to find out who leakers are? Or 1:32:06.040 --> 1:32:08.080 is it a strange coincidence that as soon as they 1:32:08.080 --> 1:32:10.920 did that and left the administration and a new administration 1:32:10.960 --> 1:32:13.559 comes in that all these leaks stop happening from the 1:32:13.600 --> 1:32:16.719 intelligence communities that seemed to be a connection of dots, 1:32:16.960 --> 1:32:18.600 or is that a step too far? I think the 1:32:18.600 --> 1:32:20.879 people on the front line, seawan, the people who actually 1:32:20.920 --> 1:32:23.320 guard this intelligence on a daily basis and and trusted, 1:32:23.400 --> 1:32:26.559 were surprised by the expansion and they immediately saw the 1:32:26.600 --> 1:32:28.920 impact there were people that started to leak transcripts that 1:32:28.960 --> 1:32:31.160 were never intended to be leaked. And so just take 1:32:31.200 --> 1:32:33.840 the Flynn intercept percepting. As a result of that leak, 1:32:33.960 --> 1:32:36.200 the Russian ambassador now knows a phone that he might 1:32:36.240 --> 1:32:38.479 have thought was clean is now being monitored by the 1:32:38.560 --> 1:32:42.679 US government and also Director Flynn or Nationscarity advisor. Flynn's 1:32:42.680 --> 1:32:46.599 reputations impacted in a process career was ruined over a 1:32:46.640 --> 1:32:49.599 felony that was committed against him. Did you see James 1:32:49.680 --> 1:32:52.280 Clapper on Meet the Press this weekend. Did James Clapper 1:32:52.400 --> 1:32:54.360 lie when he said he had known knowledge of this 1:32:54.520 --> 1:32:56.720 FISA warrant? Well, he narrowed it right. He said he 1:32:56.760 --> 1:32:58.960 need no night knowledge of a FISI warrant against the 1:32:58.960 --> 1:33:02.120 President's phone, And all of our reporting indicates there's no 1:33:02.160 --> 1:33:05.519 indication that the presidents So perhaps Donald Trump misspoke when 1:33:05.520 --> 1:33:08.880 he said wire tap, but surveillance did happen. You're telling 1:33:08.880 --> 1:33:12.000 a hundred percent that VISA warrant was issued in October 1:33:12.240 --> 1:33:14.960 and it had to do with servers and Trump Tower. Correct, 1:33:15.040 --> 1:33:18.759 that's correct, correct, So that's spying on an opposition candidate. 1:33:19.160 --> 1:33:21.840 Is there any possible way based on your background and 1:33:21.920 --> 1:33:24.439 experience that the President of the United States didn't know 1:33:24.520 --> 1:33:26.320 about it, Well, that's a good question. We know he 1:33:26.360 --> 1:33:28.439 definitely knows about it when he's briefed in December, because 1:33:28.479 --> 1:33:30.040 we were told that it was part of his briefing 1:33:30.080 --> 1:33:33.040 that this went on when he knew in October. Is 1:33:33.040 --> 1:33:35.320 still something we want to report on. And also, how 1:33:35.320 --> 1:33:38.200 did the FBI find out about this server information? We're 1:33:38.200 --> 1:33:41.160 still reporting who tipped off the FBI to to that 1:33:41.240 --> 1:33:43.800 server and its activity. That's something that we still like 1:33:43.880 --> 1:33:46.679 to report on. And they found nothing. Again, there's nothing 1:33:46.720 --> 1:33:49.760 to the Russian story, and the FBI looks at it 1:33:49.800 --> 1:33:52.559 as nothing at this point, correct, right, They do believe 1:33:52.560 --> 1:33:54.559 that the Russians tried to influence the election, but that 1:33:54.600 --> 1:33:57.200 there was nothing untoward about what. Right Now, let me 1:33:57.280 --> 1:34:00.960 take with the wiki leaks revelations yesterday, and I want 1:34:00.960 --> 1:34:03.080 to be very very specific in what I'm talking about. 1:34:03.479 --> 1:34:07.040 Wiki leaks was was very very specific, and even the 1:34:07.080 --> 1:34:10.480 Washington Post had a very interesting article about this today, 1:34:10.600 --> 1:34:13.439 and uh, you know, basically they're saying that the CIA 1:34:13.600 --> 1:34:19.240 uses stolen malware to attribute cyber attacks to nations like Russia. So, 1:34:19.280 --> 1:34:21.559 in other words, is there a possibility that it could 1:34:21.600 --> 1:34:23.920 have that all of this could have originated, all of 1:34:23.920 --> 1:34:27.320 this Russia talk, all the Russia hacking, that Russians were 1:34:27.439 --> 1:34:30.559 influenced in the election. Uh, couldn't have been within our 1:34:30.600 --> 1:34:34.000 own government, except they just basically put a fingerprint of 1:34:34.040 --> 1:34:37.360 the Russian attack on it, because that's what they're saying 1:34:37.400 --> 1:34:39.639 they can do. Well, let's keep in mind that Wiki 1:34:39.760 --> 1:34:41.679 Leaks has always said that a lot of the materials 1:34:41.680 --> 1:34:43.559 that it received did not come from the Russians, right, 1:34:43.600 --> 1:34:46.639 They've always mandated that. Well. I interviewed Julian Assans John 1:34:46.680 --> 1:34:49.040 and I asked him in great detail, and he said 1:34:49.080 --> 1:34:53.080 absolutely was no state. There was another report that those 1:34:53.120 --> 1:34:55.639 documents as it relates to Hillary and the email server 1:34:55.720 --> 1:34:59.320 and Podesta, were handed at American University in a wooded area. 1:34:59.360 --> 1:35:01.600 Did you read that this? Right? That has been opposite. So, 1:35:01.640 --> 1:35:03.720 I think we don't know a lot about how all 1:35:03.800 --> 1:35:05.160 this all came to game. And as you know, the 1:35:05.240 --> 1:35:07.680 espionage game is a game of smoking mirrors, and so 1:35:07.960 --> 1:35:10.000 we may not know the full story. And I think 1:35:10.000 --> 1:35:11.639 we need to keep digging to get to the truth 1:35:11.680 --> 1:35:14.080 of questions Like you just asked, So, would it would 1:35:14.120 --> 1:35:17.439 it be wise for President Trump to to resend that 1:35:17.520 --> 1:35:20.960 change fourteen days out to Executive Order twelve three three three. 1:35:20.960 --> 1:35:23.240 Would it be wise of President Trump to get rid 1:35:23.240 --> 1:35:26.559 of Obama holdovers? Would it be wise to get to 1:35:26.600 --> 1:35:30.280 the bottom of who's committing felonies and violating the the 1:35:30.520 --> 1:35:33.720 Espionage Act among other things? Yes, I think really, I 1:35:33.720 --> 1:35:36.800 think that's the most important things that they need to 1:35:36.840 --> 1:35:39.000 start looking at. I mean, we one of the things 1:35:39.040 --> 1:35:40.840 that you brought up sean earlier, and I'm you know, 1:35:40.960 --> 1:35:43.160 and I think that it requires a lot more investigation. 1:35:43.200 --> 1:35:45.840 In John also touched on it as well, is that 1:35:45.880 --> 1:35:47.519 we need to go back and we need to look 1:35:47.560 --> 1:35:51.240 and see who originally tipped off, what where did they 1:35:51.240 --> 1:35:53.160 get to tip off that there might have been something 1:35:53.160 --> 1:35:55.080 on the server. I think that will answer a lot 1:35:55.120 --> 1:35:57.360 of questions. And I'm also in agreement with you that 1:35:57.439 --> 1:36:00.000 it's something that needs to be investigated. Is when Obama 1:36:00.040 --> 1:36:03.400 the issue this executive order was it to expand it 1:36:03.520 --> 1:36:07.479 so that leaks, you know, would appear shortly afterwards, and 1:36:07.479 --> 1:36:09.040 that it would be difficult to find out who's the 1:36:09.080 --> 1:36:12.360 leaker was or were those people already leaking. That is 1:36:12.400 --> 1:36:15.080 something we don't know right now. We're looking at it 1:36:15.120 --> 1:36:17.600 and we're investigating it. But you know, could this be 1:36:17.720 --> 1:36:23.360 a ruse to expand the agencies so we can't copoint 1:36:23.400 --> 1:36:26.320 which agency leaked this or which person leaked this from 1:36:26.320 --> 1:36:29.200 which agency. That's something that really needs to be looked 1:36:29.240 --> 1:36:31.760 into as well. And I'm sure they're they're investigating this. 1:36:31.840 --> 1:36:34.080 I mean, this is something that the Inspector General is 1:36:34.080 --> 1:36:35.360 going to be looking at at the d o J 1:36:35.920 --> 1:36:38.559 as well as others who are looking for the leaks 1:36:38.560 --> 1:36:42.240 into this, uh, into this Russia hacking issue. Bill Benny 1:36:42.360 --> 1:36:44.360 was on this program. I'm not sure if you both 1:36:44.360 --> 1:36:46.600 are aware of him. Thirty two year Vet N S, 1:36:46.680 --> 1:36:50.479 a whistleblower, resigned because and he claimed right here on 1:36:50.479 --> 1:36:53.360 this radio program this weekend on TV this week that 1:36:53.520 --> 1:36:57.240 in fact, every email, every text message, every phone call 1:36:57.280 --> 1:37:00.880 of every American citizen is being gathered and monitored and 1:37:01.040 --> 1:37:04.800 put in the big made metadata storage units that the 1:37:04.840 --> 1:37:08.679 government has access to. Is that possible? Yes, in fact, 1:37:08.720 --> 1:37:11.400 it is based on congressional testimony that that is what 1:37:11.520 --> 1:37:13.280 goes on. And then what happened, Well, that means by 1:37:13.280 --> 1:37:15.679 the way that James Clapper committed perjury because he said 1:37:15.720 --> 1:37:19.000 it was not happening. Well, there's a difference between storing 1:37:19.040 --> 1:37:20.880 it and then accessing it and reviewing it. And what 1:37:20.960 --> 1:37:22.920 happens a lot of times in these vice A warrants 1:37:22.920 --> 1:37:24.920 is that data has been captured and its stored, no 1:37:24.960 --> 1:37:26.960 one's allowed to look at it. Then they go get 1:37:27.000 --> 1:37:28.920 permission from the court to go look at a period 1:37:28.960 --> 1:37:31.400 of time in the past where they weren't monitoring, but 1:37:31.560 --> 1:37:33.040 it was captured by the n s A. And so 1:37:33.360 --> 1:37:35.800 that's how the intelligence community since nine eleven has been 1:37:35.840 --> 1:37:37.680 able to solve a lot of crimes. Can we then 1:37:37.760 --> 1:37:40.760 say that Donald Trump with his tweet that remember the 1:37:40.760 --> 1:37:44.240 New York Times, all these major news organization, mainstream, not 1:37:44.400 --> 1:37:48.080 not conservative talk radio or the Fox News channel Hannity program, 1:37:48.120 --> 1:37:51.320 but when all of them reported wire tapping, those were there. 1:37:51.439 --> 1:37:53.759 That was the words used in the New York Times, 1:37:53.840 --> 1:37:56.759 not by and then it was reiterated by the president, 1:37:56.920 --> 1:37:59.640 but the president and principle, it turns out that he 1:37:59.720 --> 1:38:04.200 was that surveillance took place at Trump Tower, and it's 1:38:04.360 --> 1:38:08.080 very likely that many in the Obama administration, probably the 1:38:08.120 --> 1:38:11.840 President himself, knew that there was at least something some 1:38:11.920 --> 1:38:15.240 type of surveillance going on, and perhaps he thought it 1:38:15.280 --> 1:38:17.439 was wire tapping. Because the New York Times said, so 1:38:17.479 --> 1:38:20.200 when it turns out to be surveilling a server at 1:38:20.200 --> 1:38:22.360 Trump Towers, that a fair statement. Yeah, I think that 1:38:22.439 --> 1:38:25.080 our reporting confirms that there was surveillance of a computer, 1:38:25.520 --> 1:38:28.120 uh inside the Trump Towers at the end of the election. 1:38:28.120 --> 1:38:31.200 There's no doubt that is true. So you're confirming on Well, 1:38:31.240 --> 1:38:33.679 I'd like to know what Obama knew when and and 1:38:33.800 --> 1:38:35.680 uh what did he know? And when did he know? 1:38:35.800 --> 1:38:38.040 What did Ben Rhodes and Valerie Jarrett and David axe 1:38:38.120 --> 1:38:40.320 Roud and Peiffer and wrote what do all these people know? 1:38:40.400 --> 1:38:43.200 And when did they know it? And did they did 1:38:43.200 --> 1:38:45.360 they share it with Hillary Clinton? Because a week before 1:38:45.400 --> 1:38:48.080 the election, Hillary Clinton suggested so much in a tweet. 1:38:49.040 --> 1:38:52.080 That's very true. I guess more than Hillary Clinton. We 1:38:52.160 --> 1:38:55.640 also saw that Harry Reid also suggested that in October 1:38:55.760 --> 1:38:58.280 that you're absolutely right. I mean, I guess Sean Hannon, 1:38:58.320 --> 1:39:01.400 he's not so paranoid. After all. I was right Obama 1:39:01.479 --> 1:39:03.760 was a horrible president. I was right that Trump could win, 1:39:03.800 --> 1:39:06.639 and I'm right that there's something really stink that's something 1:39:06.720 --> 1:39:08.120 that stinks to Hi. You have in here, do you 1:39:08.160 --> 1:39:10.320 agree with that there's a lot more stuff that needs 1:39:10.320 --> 1:39:12.479 to be done out before we know you. Guys, got 1:39:12.479 --> 1:39:14.320 to get working. You're not working hard enough. Go out 1:39:14.320 --> 1:39:16.240 and get me get more information for the country. Go 1:39:16.400 --> 1:39:21.320 called President Obama. You won't take my call. And by 1:39:21.320 --> 1:39:23.120 the way, Solomon, why are you not coming on with 1:39:23.120 --> 1:39:25.280 Sarah on TV tonight? You need to come atually. I'm 1:39:25.320 --> 1:39:27.920 on the train. I'm gonna miss you there and get 1:39:27.920 --> 1:39:30.160 a later get a later train. What's the big deal? 1:39:30.560 --> 1:39:34.360 Step up? Oh, he's putting you on the spot now, John, Hey, John, 1:39:34.400 --> 1:39:37.320 you gotta come on, step up, move you track? All right, 1:39:37.400 --> 1:39:39.240 let me see if I can move my train. All right, 1:39:39.280 --> 1:39:41.000 I'll pay that. I'll give you the twenty five bucks 1:39:41.040 --> 1:39:43.799 when you get here. All right, all right, thanks guys. 1:39:44.280 --> 1:39:50.200 Hannity's paying for interviews headline tomorrow. Still waiting to fly 1:39:50.280 --> 1:39:54.880 out all those lips you promised to leave if we're elected. 1:39:55.520 --> 1:40:01.080 The jet is ready. This is the Sean Hannity Show. 1:40:23.800 --> 1:40:26.200 All right, that's gonna wrap things up for today. Let 1:40:26.200 --> 1:40:29.360 not your heart be troubled. Hannity on the Fox News Channel. 1:40:29.360 --> 1:40:32.360 That's coming up to eastern tonight. Okay, is there sabotage? 1:40:32.680 --> 1:40:36.559 We will break down the deep state, the shadow government 1:40:36.720 --> 1:40:40.679 and how Russia. There's zero proof, but the FISA court 1:40:40.800 --> 1:40:43.800 did issue a warrant a proof. We'll get reaction from 1:40:43.800 --> 1:40:46.800 Sarah Carter and John Solomon also knew. King Ridge weighs 1:40:46.800 --> 1:40:49.080 in on that the healthcare fiasco. The latest on the 1:40:49.080 --> 1:40:51.800 Wiki leaks dump. 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