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Speaker 1: On The Sean Hannity Show. We have a lot coming

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Speaker 1: up today. One of our big stories today is, of course,

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Speaker 1: the well intramural battle fight over the healthcare bill. I

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Speaker 1: I want to start with this healthcare debate and frustration

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Speaker 1: Are we gonna undo the mess of Obamacare? None of

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Speaker 1: the promises kept, keep your doctor, keep your plan, save

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Speaker 1: But in the lead up to all of this, this

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Speaker 1: So I just think there was a better way to

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Speaker 1: because that's what they said. Trump is right. This article

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Speaker 1: says he is correct, and there's no way on God's

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Speaker 1: green Earth that Obama and his surrogates didn't know about it. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: added another official, I've never seen a case so misrepresented

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Speaker 1: and leak so damaging to a process, that process that's

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Speaker 1: meant to be conducted in secret, so foreign powers do

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Speaker 1: not know what we know and people's reputations aren't tarnished unfairly. Oh,

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Speaker 1: you mean, like General Flynn President Trump by a media

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Speaker 1: all left propaganda destroyed Trump at all costs. Media, of course,

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Speaker 1: they want to destroy him. Several sources that goes on

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Speaker 1: with direct knowledge of the FBI's interest in investigating possible

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Speaker 1: Moscow efforts to influence the election was born out of

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Speaker 1: its long expertise on Russian players, gathered back from two

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Speaker 1: thousand and one and Robert Hansen and the espionage affair

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Speaker 1: in the and a Chapman spy ring scandal. Other intelligence

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Speaker 1: agencies were also gathering similar evidence highlighting Russian activity like

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Speaker 1: computer hacking and propaganda. Well, we know that we spy

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Speaker 1: on them. We hacked them, they hack us, and it's

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Speaker 1: just the way the world rolls. Now. The Bureau it

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Speaker 1: goes on along with other intelligence agencies at early signs

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Speaker 1: of politically motivated hacking by Russia and uncorroborated information from,

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Speaker 1: among others, the former British intelligence officer about possible contacts

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Speaker 1: between the Russian intelligence and people close to Trump. By

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Speaker 1: the way, that's the dossier that CNN and BuzzFeed ran

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Speaker 1: with that talked about Trump. May they may have compromising

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Speaker 1: information that he had hookers and the Ritz Carlton that

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Speaker 1: was you know, peeing all over the bed, urinating over

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Speaker 1: the bed. If that offends you, really, Donald Trump the

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Speaker 1: germ fobe not happening, so ridic lists and it was

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Speaker 1: proven to be false anyway, And it says there were

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Speaker 1: indicators Russian activity on corroborate, corroborated, blah blah blah blah,

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Speaker 1: associate allegations of Trump associates having contacts with key figures.

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Speaker 1: We needed to know if they connected or not. One

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Speaker 1: source said, we'd be remissed if we did not answer

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Speaker 1: that question for the national security community. They found nothing.

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Speaker 1: Officials decided the best course of action was pursue a

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Speaker 1: classic counterintelligence investigation focused on what the Russians were actually doing,

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Speaker 1: whether anyone in the US, including the Trump team, might

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Speaker 1: be encouraging or facilitating those actions or financially benefiting from them.

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Speaker 1: One of the documents that agents tried to corroborate became

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Speaker 1: known as the Trump Dossier, the work of this trusted

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Speaker 1: ex British intelligence agent. By the way, the FBI wanted

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Speaker 1: to pay this guy, hired by political operatives to find

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Speaker 1: damaging evidence on Trump in Russia. Some of the information

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Speaker 1: in the dossier was explicit and salacious and keyword uncorroborated.

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Speaker 1: It like an alleged interlude between Trump and a prostitute

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Speaker 1: in Moscow a few years back, and an alleged Russian

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Speaker 1: bribe that could have spelled uh millions of miss that

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Speaker 1: would have meant millions and billions of dollars for Trump's companies.

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Speaker 1: None of it was true. Trump wasn't in a bed

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Speaker 1: with hookers that were urinating in the bed, but CNN

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Speaker 1: breathlessly reporting when puzzfees reported, so sick, what these people do?

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Speaker 1: You think I'm wrong in saying they're all left propaganda

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Speaker 1: destroyed Trump at all costs media. That's who they are.

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Speaker 1: They're all hacks, they're all lazy, and they're all agenda

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Speaker 1: driven on top of being overpaid. Agents were able to

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Speaker 1: corroborate some details in the dossier, mostly public source intelligence

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Speaker 1: in other words, already available about meetings and decisions involving

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Speaker 1: Russian figures, but much of the information about Trump and

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Speaker 1: associates could not be corroborated, and some was disproven, and

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Speaker 1: other facts took new connotation when additional investigation was concluded,

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Speaker 1: in other words, that found nothing. Then, it says the

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Speaker 1: FBI Justice Department requested and received a FISA warrant to

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Speaker 1: monitor a specific computer server inside of Trump Towers. Trump

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Speaker 1: is right. They surveiled him. The pises story is corroborated

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Speaker 1: by their sources as being true. The towers is the

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Speaker 1: home of Trump's business, personal residents, and then campaign headquarters.

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Speaker 1: The court approved defies the application. As we said in October,

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Speaker 1: weeks before an election. That's the opposition party. Do you

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Speaker 1: understand how dangerous this is, including just as the election

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Speaker 1: was turning the Trump's way and other controversial FBI probe

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Speaker 1: and the Hillary Clinton's email was ending. Well, Hill, that

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Speaker 1: explains where Hillary got all this from. That explains where

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Speaker 1: Harry Reid came out. Remember Chuck Schumer in January said

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Speaker 1: Trump really is dumb for attacking intelligence agencies. They have

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Speaker 1: six ways from Sunday to get back at you. Is

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Speaker 1: that what our intelligence community does? Remember all that. Very

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Speaker 1: quickly agents concluded the computer activity in question involved no

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Speaker 1: nefarious contacts, bank transactions, or encrypted communications with the Russians

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Speaker 1: and likely involved routine computer signals. The exonerate Trump, exonerate completely,

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Speaker 1: and corroborate that he was being surveiled. Now let me

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Speaker 1: take it a step further, just something to think about.

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Speaker 1: I won't go any further here because I don't have time.

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Speaker 1: But they're gonna join us in our final hour today.

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Speaker 1: Let me take it a step further Wiki leaks. Let's

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Speaker 1: go to this headline in bright bart and similar one

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Speaker 1: was in where was at the Washington Post today? Wiki leaks.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot here. In other words, they tried to

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Speaker 1: make it so that you couldn't secure your phone. One

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Speaker 1: of the reasons I like iPhone is because of its encryption. Well,

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Speaker 1: to the wiki leaks, Wiki leaks hasn't been wrong and

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Speaker 1: almost eleven years, never proven wrong once about the information

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Speaker 1: they disseminate. Okay, so the Android phones, Apple phones, and

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Speaker 1: even smart TVs can become listening devices even if they're

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Speaker 1: shut off. That's just some of the revelations that came out.

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Speaker 1: But here's the one that interests me the most. That

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Speaker 1: the c i A, according to these Wiki leaks leaks,

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Speaker 1: uses stolen malware to attribute cyber attacks to nations like Russia.

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Speaker 1: In other words, what they're saying is the c i

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Speaker 1: A can actually blame Russia for an attack on an

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Speaker 1: American and because they'll put their fingerprints all over the attack,

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Speaker 1: meanwhile it came from within. Well did that happen in

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Speaker 1: this case or do you think Hannity's really paranoid now

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Speaker 1: and losing is just you know what, maybe I'm not

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Speaker 1: so paranoid? Is anybody in the meat you see? Ann

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Speaker 1: tonight gonna highlight John Solomon and Sarah Carter. No, They're

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Speaker 1: exclusively gonna be on my radio show, in my TV shows.

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Speaker 1: The New York Time is going to apologize. All these

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Speaker 1: news outlets going to apologize for being wrong. Are they

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Speaker 1: gonna say Trump was right about he was being surveilled?

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Speaker 1: I doubt it. They're a bunch of hacks, the whole

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Speaker 1: bunch of them. Jean Hannity, all right, a lot of

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Speaker 1: get to today, a lot of top stories. Now, the

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Speaker 1: Vice President will join us next to talk about the

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Speaker 1: healthcare bill. Then Jim Jordan's and Congressman Dave Brad and

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Speaker 1: Dr John Chaumber, the people that I just read the

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Speaker 1: story of, John Solomon, Sarah Carter, and Ann Coulter are

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Speaker 1: all coming up. Stay with us, busy day to day.

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Speaker 1: A consensus plan that's now being scored by the CBO. Correct,

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Speaker 1: Dave Brad seen it, But I haven't seen any plan

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Speaker 1: at this point that has been rolled out. Dave Brad, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was asking him specifically, where's the consensus plan. Well,

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Speaker 1: in healthcare, I don't think there is one because we

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Speaker 1: haven't seen it. Right. Much of it was modeled off

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Speaker 1: the Tom Price legislation, which which we have Conservatives have

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Speaker 1: always seen a sort of the gold standard for replacing Obamacare.

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Speaker 1: He's now the Secretary of HSS. That is the bill,

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Speaker 1: the plan that we ran on in seen we told America,

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Speaker 1: here's our vision for how we replaced Obamacare. After we

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Speaker 1: repeal Obamacare, we're all working off the same piece of paper,

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Speaker 1: the same plan, so we are in sync, the House,

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Speaker 1: the Senate, and the Trump administration. Because this law is

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Speaker 1: collapsing and you can't just repeal it. You have to

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Speaker 1: repeal it and replace it with a system that actually works.

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Speaker 1: And that is exactly what we're doing. And I am

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Speaker 1: perfectly confident that when it's all said and done, we're

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Speaker 1: going to unify because we all, every Republican ran on

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Speaker 1: repealing and replacing and we're going to keep our promises.

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Speaker 1: Is there a consensus bill, because when I interviewed the Speaker,

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Speaker 1: he said there was, and it was being scored, and

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Speaker 1: after it was scored, he said, of course there's going

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Speaker 1: to be amendments to it. But why the secrecy at

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Speaker 1: this point, Well, there is a consensus of ideas and

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Speaker 1: a consensus bill, but it's not the leadership bill. The

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Speaker 1: leadership bill is Obamacare light, and they're embarrassed about it,

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Speaker 1: so they keep it in secret because they don't want

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Speaker 1: any of us to point out the Obamacare light features.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully they will not put forward a Bottlecare light. But

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Speaker 1: the bill they're keeping under lock and key that they

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Speaker 1: won't let us see. They would not let me have

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Speaker 1: a copy of this morning. That bill is Obamacare light,

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Speaker 1: and that's why they don't want conservatives across the country

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Speaker 1: to see it. All Right, there you hear of varying

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Speaker 1: opinions yesterday. Of course, the healthcare bill or late the

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Speaker 1: night before, was released on Monday night, and there is

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Speaker 1: opposition to it. Obviously, it was not a consensus bill

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Speaker 1: in the sense the Freedom Caucus and others, some of

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Speaker 1: the study group, Senator Rampaul, Senator Ted Cruz, Senator Mike Lee,

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Speaker 1: Senator Marco Rubio seemed to have problems with it. Here

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Speaker 1: to help sort all of this out is the Vice

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Speaker 1: President of the United States, and that is Vice President

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Speaker 1: Mike Pence was back with those Mr. Vice President It's

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Speaker 1: always an honor to have you on the show. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for being with us. Thank you, Sean. Great to

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Speaker 1: be with you. This is an exciting time in the

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Speaker 1: life of our nation. It is truly historic that after

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Speaker 1: the after Democrats and and the Obama administration passed a

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Speaker 1: government takeover of healthcare, that we are literally on the

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Speaker 1: cusp through through a vigorous legislative process of repealing and

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Speaker 1: replacing Obamacare. And I'm I'm just truly humbled and grateful

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Speaker 1: to be a small part of that. The only thing

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Speaker 1: in my mind, and maybe it was wishful thinking on

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Speaker 1: my part, because I know legislation. You once told me

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Speaker 1: it's like sausage making in that sense, and you know

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Speaker 1: New Gingrich describes, well, you work within a box. What

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Speaker 1: what do you need to pass a bill? What do

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Speaker 1: you need to pass a bill? And within that box

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Speaker 1: you come to agreement. Nobody gets everything that they want.

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Speaker 1: I guess my My only confusion and and concern is

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Speaker 1: considering this started eight years ago. I'm just a little

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Speaker 1: bit frustrated that there wasn't a consensus bill and now

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Speaker 1: we've got a public fight going on between Republicans and

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Speaker 1: this is only one item of the Trump Agenda, the

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Speaker 1: Trump Pencil Agenda that needs to get passed. We've got

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Speaker 1: to get the economic bill passed. We gotta get energy independence,

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Speaker 1: We've we've got to get the vetting done and the

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Speaker 1: wall built. There's a lot of work to do. And

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Speaker 1: I just wish that maybe these these public battles we're

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Speaker 1: seeing now could have been resolved behind closed doors and

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Speaker 1: everybody could have got behind the president from day one

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Speaker 1: and said, yeah, we agreed, this is our bill, we

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Speaker 1: all vote, We're all going to vote for it. Well,

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Speaker 1: and I think I think one of the soundbites that

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Speaker 1: you played from from the speaker, Paul Ryan, reflected on

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Speaker 1: the fact that they a working group in the Congress

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Speaker 1: last year. Uh, they built this legislation at the president's

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Speaker 1: direction around a framework included in then Congressman Tom Price's legislation,

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Speaker 1: which was very broadly endorsed by conservatives and Republicans in

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Speaker 1: the Congress. But look, this is this is a different

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Speaker 1: kind of legislative process than happened in two thousand nine.

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Speaker 1: I was there, you were, you were on the airways

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Speaker 1: of America trying to stop that freight train called Obamacare,

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Speaker 1: and we came pretty close remember, shop, we almost stopped

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Speaker 1: the thing, but the way it was written, it was

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Speaker 1: hard for us argue against it because literally, Nancy Pelosi

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Speaker 1: as Speaker of the House, and the Obama team literally

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Speaker 1: wrote Obamacare in a back room and that almost the

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Speaker 1: day of the vote, brought it out onto the floor

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Speaker 1: of the House of Representatives, and Nancy Pelosi famously said, quote,

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Speaker 1: we have to vote for this bill so we can

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Speaker 1: find out what's in a closed quote. Now that the

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Speaker 1: American people found out what's in it, higher insurance premiums,

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Speaker 1: lost the ability to choose your doctor, losing your insurance coverage. Literally,

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Speaker 1: it is a spiraling disaster in healthcare, and Republicans, with

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Speaker 1: the President's strong leadership, are determined to keep our promise

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Speaker 1: of the American people. We're going to repeal this this

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Speaker 1: disastrous policy. And what's been presented is just this is

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Speaker 1: the most important thing I can tell you, Sean, is

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Speaker 1: what's been presented in the Congress and has begun to

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Speaker 1: be debated is simply phase one of the President's three

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Speaker 1: phase process, which by this summer will succeed in repealing

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Speaker 1: Obamacare and replacing it with healthcare reform that lets of

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Speaker 1: the American people choose their health insurance, purchase health insurance

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Speaker 1: across state lines. It will lower the cost of health

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Speaker 1: insurance through free market choices. It will respect the doctor

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Speaker 1: patient relationship. It will give states, literally, as the Wall

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Speaker 1: Street Journal said today, unprecedented freedom and flexibility in tailoring

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Speaker 1: their own Medicaid systems on a state by state basis.

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Speaker 1: And we really do be that at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, at the end of this three phase process,

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Speaker 1: the American people will will see that President Trump and

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Speaker 1: Republicans in Congress kept their word and seized this historic

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Speaker 1: healthcare moment to literally improve the healthcare economy based upon

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Speaker 1: American principles and the free market. I guess, Mr Vice President,

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Speaker 1: from my perspective, all of the people that came out

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Speaker 1: yesterday opposing the bill within the Republican Party had telegraphed

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Speaker 1: the very arguments long before they got an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: of those differences could have been resolved behind closed doors.

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Speaker 1: Look at just even the lower third on on any

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Speaker 1: of these news channels. All day, it's talks about an

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Speaker 1: internal strife, civil war within the Republican Party, and um,

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Speaker 1: I'm not so sure that's helpful. And and all these

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Speaker 1: things now are going to be played out in public.

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Speaker 1: Apparently that's I think playing into the Democrats hands a

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Speaker 1: little bit. Or should the American people understand this is

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Speaker 1: how digislation is made. And are you confident you're gonna

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Speaker 1: bring these guys along? Well, first off, I'm very confident

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Speaker 1: we're going to keep our promise to the American people

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Speaker 1: with the with President Trump's strong leadership and the support

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Speaker 1: of Republicans in the House and Senate, we're going to

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Speaker 1: repeal and replace Obamacare. We're going to give the American

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Speaker 1: people a health care system based on individual choice, personal responsibility,

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Speaker 1: and freedom. Remember, the very core offense of Obamacare was

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Speaker 1: that they decided to solve the problem what they perceived

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Speaker 1: to be of coverage in America by ordering every American

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Speaker 1: That we always believe that the issue of costs could

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Speaker 1: be dealt with by by increasing the amount of choice

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Speaker 1: that Americans had. That's the President of the core of

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Speaker 1: the President's vision begins with repealing that the tax penalties,

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Speaker 1: repealing the you know, the mandates and the heavy hand

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Speaker 1: of government in Obamacare letting people purchase across state lines

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Speaker 1: and then sending medicaid to the states, so that state,

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Speaker 1: it's like my old home state of Indiana, have the

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Speaker 1: ability to tailor those programs for the under privileged in

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Speaker 1: ways that will serve their best needs, their best health.

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Speaker 1: And truly, uh and and truly it advanced the choices

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Speaker 1: that uh, that our most vulnerable citizens have in a

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Speaker 1: healthcare economy in ways that will improve their lives. That

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Speaker 1: that all I believe is going to happen. But look,

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Speaker 1: we're we are. It is early in the legislative process.

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Speaker 1: The President has said this is the bill, but he's

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Speaker 1: also he told leaders in Congress yesterday. I told him

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Speaker 1: when I was on Capitol Hill in the House, and

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Speaker 1: we're certainly open to improvements the House proposal. We believe,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know is you know, can be improved.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna listen to thoughtful recommendations to do that. But

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Speaker 1: the overall framework of this process, we truly believe, as

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Speaker 1: the President said, has to begin with our effort to

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Speaker 1: simultaneously repeal and replace Obamacare. And that's what this first

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Speaker 1: bill does begins to do. And the end of this

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Speaker 1: three phase process. I truly do believe that your listeners

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Speaker 1: and and frankly, I think the broad broad mainstream of

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Speaker 1: the American public. Uh, we'll see that we have. We

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Speaker 1: took what was a disaster in healthcare and we turned

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Speaker 1: it around to put it on a pathway for for

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Speaker 1: better health, better health care choices, and a more prosperous

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Speaker 1: fut The argument of the Freedom Caucus, both them and

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Speaker 1: Senator Paul for example, is that this does not represent

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Speaker 1: a full repeal, and it creates a new entitlement, and

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Speaker 1: that is the subsidies that would come from the federal

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Speaker 1: government and be sent into terms of in terms of

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Speaker 1: tax credits to individuals. Um, do you feel they're right

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Speaker 1: think Paul Ryan has that right? Well, I have to

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Speaker 1: be honest with you. Obamacare, they subsidize the purchase of

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Speaker 1: health insurance through these exchanges. I think that giving people

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Speaker 1: a credit on taxes is a better way to go.

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Speaker 1: If if if people don't have coverage through their employer

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Speaker 1: and they're purchasing on the individual market, allowing them to

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Speaker 1: have a credit against their tax liability. That's to me,

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Speaker 1: that's always been a good free market means of encouraging

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Speaker 1: and creating an incentive for behavior. Remember, the core difference

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Speaker 1: between Obamacare and what's been proposed in the Congress today

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Speaker 1: is freedom. In Obamacare, with the federal government ordered every

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Speaker 1: American to buy health insurance or pay attacks, we're essentially

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Speaker 1: saying we're creating incentives for people to be able to

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Speaker 1: better afford health insurance. But whether you buy health insurance

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Speaker 1: is your decision, and it's your call. And to me,

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Speaker 1: that's more than a small matter. That's it really goes

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Speaker 1: to the heart of when I was in that battle

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Speaker 1: in two thousand nine against Obamacare. To me, it was

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Speaker 1: the intrusion on freedom that I found most offensive. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if the federal government can order you to buy one

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Speaker 1: thing whatever, to say down the road in the future,

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Speaker 1: they can't order you to spend your money in other

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Speaker 1: different ways, you know. To me, that's the where we

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Speaker 1: all begin. And in bill, remember this is a budget bill.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be too granular here, but this

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Speaker 1: is a bill that only requires fifty one votes in

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Speaker 1: the Senate. There's there's a chat by the way, that

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Speaker 1: is a real hurdle. That that's right, But but it's

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Speaker 1: not sixty votes. Okay, the next the phase three of

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Speaker 1: this will take sixty votes. And the President and I

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Speaker 1: and our whole team are committed to go across the

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Speaker 1: country and fight hard for all the balance of reforms

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Speaker 1: like like uh, you know, completing the authority to buy

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Speaker 1: health insurance across state lines, and creating association health plans

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Speaker 1: so that people can join insurance pools on a nationwide basis,

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Speaker 1: of bringing together medical liability, legal reform, to to to

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Speaker 1: bring some common sense to litigation that drives up the

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Speaker 1: cost of health insurance across the country. All those things

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Speaker 1: will have to get well left to get sixty votes

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Speaker 1: to do them, and and well Spring, I promise you

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Speaker 1: were going to fight for them. But in this bill,

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Speaker 1: we can repeal the taxes, we can we can start

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Speaker 1: down the road of replacing Obamacare, and that combined with

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Speaker 1: what Dr Price can do at HHS and our Phase

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Speaker 1: three bill can deliver a great victory for the American people.

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Speaker 1: Stay up to date with the latest news and expert

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Speaker 1: opinions as Donald Trump takes office. Stick right here will

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Speaker 1: Shawn Hendy show. We continue with the Vice President of

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Speaker 1: the United States, Vice President Mike Pence, Mr. Vice President.

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Speaker 1: I guess the next question I have is, you know

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Speaker 1: we've been following this guy in Wichita, Kansas. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: join us later in the program. And I know you're

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Speaker 1: pretty busy and you probably don't have time to watch

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Speaker 1: my TV show ever, but we had them on last night,

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Speaker 1: and this guy in Wichita has a system where people pay.

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Speaker 1: Kids pay ten bucks a month, the adults pay fifty

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Speaker 1: bucks a month. It includes as many visits as you

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Speaker 1: ever need, takes care of stitches and broken bones and

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Speaker 1: m ririse, and they even have a negotiated directly with

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Speaker 1: the pharmaceutical companies and gets reduction on the cost of

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Speaker 1: most medicines and including chemotherapy medicines. And they have five

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Speaker 1: doctors in his practice, six patients per doctor. And then

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Speaker 1: the patients usually get a catastrophic plan, which is very

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Speaker 1: inexpensive depending on what your deductible is. And that would

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Speaker 1: be in case God forbid you have an accident, God

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Speaker 1: forbid you out a heart attack, or God forbid you

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Speaker 1: got cancer. These cooperatives, there are about a thousand of

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Speaker 1: them now that have popped up around the country. Between

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Speaker 1: that and health care savings accounts, so we onto something

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Speaker 1: that could really in his case, he cuts the cost

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Speaker 1: for his patients at becuse, cuts the cost of pharmaceutic

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Speaker 1: and it seems that these innovative ideas that are popping

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Speaker 1: up around the country could be utilized. Thoughts well, nothing

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Speaker 1: false about it at all, And health savings accounts are

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Speaker 1: at the very center of the president's vision here. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, we introduced, really for the first time ever,

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Speaker 1: health savings accounts in to medicate when I was governor

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Speaker 1: of the state of Indiana. When when people are able

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Speaker 1: to make a deposit into a health savings account that

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Speaker 1: they can pay a first dollar out of to pay

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Speaker 1: for their their healthcare, it creates an incentive for preventive

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Speaker 1: medicine and encourages people to to make better health care choices.

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Speaker 1: And then you add to that a catastrophic plan that's

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Speaker 1: much more affordable. It all makes sense. But everything you're

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Speaker 1: talking about, I know to your bone marrow, Sean Hannity,

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Speaker 1: you're a free market guy, yes, sir, you know, there's

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Speaker 1: there's no I love what Phil Graham said one time.

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Speaker 1: He said, there's no problem in America too big or

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Speaker 1: too complex that the market can't solve if we let

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Speaker 1: the markets solve it. What what happened into thousand nine

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Speaker 1: that were committed to repeal and replace was that it

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Speaker 1: was nothing short of a government takeover of healthcare. They

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Speaker 1: looked at the issue of uninsured in America, and instead

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Speaker 1: of freeing up the marketplace, allowing people to buy health

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Speaker 1: insurance across state lines, giving people more freedom and more

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Speaker 1: flexibility to innovate programs like health savings accounts and association

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Speaker 1: health plans, instead they came out with this massive government

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Speaker 1: mandate ordering every American to buy health insurance whether they

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Speaker 1: wanted or needed or not, and then layered on top

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Speaker 1: of that attacks penalty if you didn't pay that, and

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Speaker 1: that was that. That's the core of Obamacare that goes

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Speaker 1: away in the bill that was introduced this week with

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Speaker 1: a tax penalty is gone, and by the end of

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Speaker 1: this three phase process, everything about Obamacare will be swept

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Speaker 1: away and we will replace it with exactly the kind

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Speaker 1: of framework that will invite the innovation that you're talking

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Speaker 1: about in which talk. I'm just really hoping and praying

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Speaker 1: that Republicans can come to consensus quickly. There's so much

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Speaker 1: on the agenda, and as a credit to both you

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Speaker 1: and the President, you have gotten so much done in

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Speaker 1: such a short period of time, and many big items

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Speaker 1: remain and I know you will get to them expeditiously.

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Speaker 1: Mr Vice President, Thank you as always for your time.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you always being on the program. Thank you, sir,

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Sean. Great to be with you one Sean

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Speaker 1: are toll free telephone number, and Culture will get her

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Speaker 1: thoughts on all of this when we get back straight ahead,

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Speaker 1: holding them accountable. Sean gets the answers no one else does.

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Speaker 1: America desserts and know the truth about Congress. The plan

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Speaker 1: is to repeal and replaced this law. Like we said,

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Speaker 1: we ran on a plan to repeal and replace it.

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Speaker 1: Tom Chrice helped write that plan. He is now Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump's secretary of a consensus plan that's now being scored

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Speaker 1: by the CBO. Correct. He said, there's a plan currently

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Speaker 1: being scored by the CBO that was a consensus plan.

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Speaker 1: That's what he told me. Well, I understand that, and

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Speaker 1: and uh, it is not a consensus plan. I haven't

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Speaker 1: seen it. Maybe Dave Brad seen it, but I haven't

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Speaker 1: seen any plan at this point that has been rolled

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Speaker 1: out Dave Brad Yeah, I was asking him specifically, where's

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Speaker 1: the consensus plan? Well, and help, I don't think there

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Speaker 1: is one because we haven't seen it. Right. We have

856
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: been running on repealing and replacing Obamacare since two thousand.

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00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: In two thousand sixteen, the House, in a bottom up way,

858
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Speaker 1: set a working group together the Commerce Committee, the Ways

859
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 1: Means Committe, the Education Workforce Committee, and then any other

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Speaker 1: member of Congress who cares about this issue participated in

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Speaker 1: a working group to come up with a plan for

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Speaker 1: what we replace Obamacare. Uh. Much of it was modeled

863
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Speaker 1: off the Tom Price legislation, which which we have conservatives

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00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: have always seen a sort of the gold standard for

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Speaker 1: replacing Obamacare. He's now the Secretary of hs S. That

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Speaker 1: is the bill, the plan that we ran on in Sie.

867
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Speaker 1: We told America, here's our vision for how we replace

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Speaker 1: Obamacare after we repeal Obamacare. That's the bill we're working

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Speaker 1: on right now. That's the bill we're working on with

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration. We're all working off the same piece

871
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 1: of paper, the same plan, so we are in sync,

872
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: the House, the Senate, and the Trump administration. Because this

873
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: law is collapsing and you can't just repeal it. You

874
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: have to repeal it and replace it with a system

875
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Speaker 1: that actually works, and that is exactly what we're doing.

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Speaker 1: And I am perfectly confident that when it's all said

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Speaker 1: and done, we're going to unify because we all, every

878
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Speaker 1: Republican ran on repealing and replacing, and we're going to

879
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Speaker 1: keep our promises. Is there a consensus bill, because when

880
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: I interviewed the Speaker, he said there was, and it

881
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: was being scored, And after it was scored, he said,

882
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 1: of course it's going to be amendments to it. But

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Speaker 1: why the secrecy at this point, Well, there is a

884
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: consensus of ideas and a consense this bill, but it's

885
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Speaker 1: not the leadership bill. The leadership bill is Obamacare light,

886
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 1: and they're embarrassed about it, so they keep it in

887
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: secret because they don't want any of us to point

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00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,399
Speaker 1: out the Obamacare light features. Hopefully they will not put

889
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: forward a binalcare light. But the bill they're keeping under

890
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: lock and key that they won't let us see. They

891
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: would not let me have a copy of this morning.

892
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: That bill is Obamacare light, and that's why they don't

893
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: want conservatives across the country to see it. All right,

894
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 1: twenty four now, till the top of the hour. You know,

895
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 1: I just want to reset the table here and we're

896
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: gonna get to Ann Coulter. So for eight years, eight

897
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 1: long years, repeal and replace. So here, Donald Trump wins

898
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 1: the election, and they had all these show votes, phony

899
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: votes that would absolutely meaningless. Ted Cruz filibusters in the

900
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: Senate and says, let's use our enumerated constitutional power of

901
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: the purse and we can repeal Obamacare. We can stop it,

902
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: we cannot fund it. And they had that option. Now

903
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: Ted Cruz has gone off the deep end. We're gonna

904
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: lose seats in teen. Well, you didn't lose seats, Ineen,

905
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: they won seats. So this is their their signature. And

906
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: we get in January. It's now March, and they still

907
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: never had a consensus bill. Now, let me tell you

908
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: how I would have rolled this bill out, because I

909
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: had interviewed everybody, and I knew there wasn't consensus. The

910
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: Freedom Caucuses against it, Americans for Prosperity or against it.

911
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: The Freedom Works is against it, Heritage Action is against it.

912
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: Forbes's Group is against everybody's against it. Grand Paul's against it.

913
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Speaker 1: Ted Cruz is against it. Mike Lea's against it, Freedom

914
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: Caucuses against it, Rubio is against it. And why didn't

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Speaker 1: they work out all of these problems behind closed doors,

916
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: then as a United Republican House and Senate and President

917
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Speaker 1: reveal it and say we're gonna pass this bill anyway

918
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 1: and cultures. So it's infuriating. I mean, it's almost dereliction

919
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: of duty. How bad this was rolled out yesterday. I know, Sean,

920
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: I know it's a joke and sad. First of all,

921
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: you can I don't understand why no one in Congress

922
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: understands the free market. We constantly have this ratchet effect

923
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Speaker 1: where Democrats are in office, they pushed through massive socialist schemes,

924
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Speaker 1: and then Republicans come in with a Republican House, Republican Senate,

925
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Speaker 1: Republican president. And what do they do. They keep the

926
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Speaker 1: the overall framework of the government running our lives in

927
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Speaker 1: this or that area. Take Department of Education invented by

928
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: Jimmy Carter as a stop to the teachers unions. Ronald

929
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 1: Reagan ran on eliminating the Department of Education, and twenty

930
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Speaker 1: years later George Bush is tinkering around the edges who

931
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: have no child left behind. No, we don't want tinkering.

932
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,720
Speaker 1: We want a free market. And whenever you hear people

933
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: saying as as they always do, well, how are we

934
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: going to make sure everyone has health insurance? Okay, for

935
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Speaker 1: most of the last century, Soviet Union couldn't clothe its people,

936
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Speaker 1: couldn't feed its people. Here in America, we totally solved

937
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Speaker 1: the everyone be closed problem. Everyone have shoes, everyone have food,

938
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Speaker 1: in fact, an infinite, very variety of food, even of

939
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Speaker 1: something something like orange juice. That that is, as I

940
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: wrote in a column recently, Russian President Yelson walked through

941
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Speaker 1: a supermarket in Austin, Texas and was blown away by

942
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Speaker 1: the orange juice sile. How did we do that, Sean?

943
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Speaker 1: We did that through the free market, not by the

944
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Speaker 1: government saying well, if you're going to make orange juice,

945
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Speaker 1: we have a series of mandates for you, and we're

946
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Speaker 1: going to have the State Orange Juice Commission tell you

947
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Speaker 1: that it has to have a spout at an easy,

948
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 1: poor spout, and only pure orange juice. You can't make

949
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Speaker 1: mix in mango juice. Please just give us a free

950
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 1: market and health insurance. Yes, there are people who will

951
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 1: not be able to afford that health insurance or they

952
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: either because they're irresponsible, or they're not making enough money,

953
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Speaker 1: or they're young people, or because they just drew a

954
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Speaker 1: bad lottery ticket in life. Okay, that's probably at most

955
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Speaker 1: three percent of the country. Let's say it's something wild

956
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Speaker 1: like seven ten. That doesn't mean you do pride the

957
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Speaker 1: other three hundred million of us of being able to

958
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Speaker 1: buy health insurance on the free market. And I would

959
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: also add, we already have a model of this yere

960
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 1: in America, not only with car insurance that's sold on

961
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Speaker 1: the free market. A cute little get commercial number two Obamacare, Um,

962
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: thank Heavin for the establishment clause was forced to give

963
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 1: waivers to Christian groups who provide something they're not allowed

964
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Speaker 1: to call insurance, but it's insurance. And you know how

965
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: much that is? Fifty dollars a month. And that's with

966
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: a teeny tiny little pool. If if health insurance for

967
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 1: young people, for healthy people, for the risk averse, if

968
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: you could get catastrophic health insurance just in case you're

969
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: hit by a car, you have a terrible skiing accident,

970
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: you get a dread disease. If if it were fifty

971
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: dollars a month, so many people would be buying it

972
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: would probably go down to twenty or thirty dollars a month.

973
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: Please just give us a free market and stop putting mandates.

974
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 1: Are sending it back to the state insurance commissioners, the

975
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: most corrupt institutions in the Could you imagine. And meanwhile,

976
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: all of this, I'm being told there's a consensus bill

977
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: being scored by the CBO. And then I put on

978
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Speaker 1: let's see Dave brad and Jim Jordan and Mark Meadows

979
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: and Louis Gohmert, and then Marcia Blackburn and I put

980
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 1: on Grand Paul other people, and they all say, Nope,

981
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: we're hearing this is in it. This is in it,

982
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: this is in it, this is in it. And I

983
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 1: go and I write people and I'm like, guys, they're

984
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: not on board, and they have enough votes to kill it.

985
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, why aren't you talking together? Could you imagine

986
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: if they actually got had gotten in a room, they

987
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: put together a bill that everybody agreed on and supported.

988
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 1: Nobody gets everything they want. That's the way bills are written.

989
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, it was on

990
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 1: the principles. You just describe simple, basic, fundamental conservative free

991
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 1: market principles and imagine that if the president held a

992
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 1: big event with all members of the House and Senate

993
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: that a Republican supporting the bill and say we are unified.

994
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: This is our bill. Now maybe I'm not, maybe I'm

995
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 1: maybe I'm just two outside the bubble. It's I mean,

996
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:05,919
Speaker 1: there are complications, but not for of the American people.

997
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 1: If you can make of us happy, wouldn't you do it?

998
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: You could do it in a single sentence in the bill.

999
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: There shall be a free market in health insurance. Period.

1000
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: The rest of the bill is all dealing with with Medicaid,

1001
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: with trial lawyers, with laws that require hospitals to treat

1002
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 1: anyone who walks in UM. You have to have fraud investigators.

1003
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 1: But that's the ten percent of people who are going

1004
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: to need either fully subsidized or partially subsidized healthcare for

1005
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: one reason or another. Often not their fault, because I'm

1006
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 1: not saying this with any with any venom here. Some

1007
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 1: people are just born with horrible problems. Of course we're

1008
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 1: going to pay for that. You have to make sure

1009
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: there isn't fraud. There's a lot of fraud in Medicare

1010
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: and Medicaid right now. Again thanks to our hard working immigrants,

1011
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 1: mostly UM, but nine of us just let us buy

1012
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 1: on the free market. It is the most baffling thing.

1013
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 1: I always feel like I'm talking to, you know, an

1014
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: old Soviet woman, sir, explaining how bread will get to

1015
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 1: the market. No, we don't need the government to write

1016
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Speaker 1: these regulations. And and don't tell the healthcare is important,

1017
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 1: food is important, housing is important, clothes are important, and

1018
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 1: we are just you know, we're rolling in all of it.

1019
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 1: Why it gets better and cheaper every year because of

1020
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,919
Speaker 1: the free market, as with as with car insurance, as

1021
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: with the Christian health insurance. It isn't allowed to call

1022
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 1: it self insurance. I just to me, it's very very simple.

1023
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 1: You repeal the old bill, you replace it with you know,

1024
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: I had this guy on TV last night. I put

1025
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 1: him on radio today, Josh Umbers with his name, and

1026
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: he's a great guy. He has the very type of

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01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 1: of what you call cooperative that you're discussing ten bucks

1028
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: a month for kids, fifty bucks a month for adults,

1029
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 1: all the medical care testing you want. And he negotiated

1030
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 1: directly with the pharmaceutical companies and he has reductions and

1031
01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 1: what you would pay at Walmart. Oh yeah, oh yeah,

1032
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 1: to sell it outfuly. Free market, let people compete. Um,

1033
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 1: Let the pharmaceutical companies compete for the businesses. Uh No,

1034
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 1: it's it's magic, the free market. I don't understand why

1035
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: Republicans don't understand. Um. I I am glad to see

1036
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 1: Rand Paul Um. He seems to have imbibed well from

1037
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 1: his father, Ron Paul. He appears to be the only

1038
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 1: one who grasps the concept of the free market, which

1039
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 1: again solves the problem of health insurance, as it has

1040
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 1: solved the problem of clothing ourselves and and and buying food.

1041
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 1: It solves it for the people. You don't screw three

1042
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 1: million people because you have special cases with another ten millions. Well,

1043
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day, there's a

1044
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 1: way to get this right. And you know, Donald Trump

1045
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: is the great negotiator, and it looks like he's going

1046
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 1: to have to go in and clean up the mess

1047
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 1: that Congress created. Well, what's frustrating about that is Donald

1048
01:01:56,600 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 1: Trump is one man. He's he's working on the wall,

1049
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: he's imposing the travel band, You're bringing jobs back. Um.

1050
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Speaker 1: He's just a world wind of activity. We have hundreds

1051
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 1: of Republicans, Um, in the United States Congress. They can't

1052
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 1: do this one thing because there are complicated portions to it. Again,

1053
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 1: the part that deals with the ten percent of Americans

1054
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 1: who are incapable of of being covered by insurance on

1055
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 1: the free market, either because they have some very expensive

1056
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 1: disease or they're just they're just incapable. As Trump said,

1057
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 1: we don't let them die on the street. Don't worry.

1058
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Speaker 1: We never have. We have Medicaid, we have Medicare, we

1059
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 1: have veterans, hospitals. All of that stuff needs to be fixed.

1060
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: But you don't wreck the free market for of the public.

1061
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 1: Can you imagine if they've done this with food and

1062
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 1: clothes and culture. I gotta I gotta tell you listen.

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Speaker 1: We love having you come back often when you're back

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Speaker 1: up in New York. You did great on TV the

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Speaker 1: other night. Thank you as always for being with us.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely good to talk to you. Shan by One, Shawn

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Speaker 1: toll Free telephone number, Next Star, Final round up and

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Speaker 1: information overload our All right, let's hit our busy telephones here.

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Speaker 1: Michelle is in Hampton, Virginia listening on w n I S.

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Speaker 1: What's going on? How are you? Yes? Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much Mr Hannity for taking my call. Ma'am um. Well,

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Speaker 1: I want you to just share with the American people.

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Speaker 1: Is have we forgotten that that compassionate, loving speech that

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Speaker 1: he gave that address to Congress, who the gentleman and

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Speaker 1: the women who had to sit and ignore him as

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Speaker 1: he spoke to us, the American people and them to

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Speaker 1: try and get their act together. And now those are

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Speaker 1: the same ones that are standing up. You're attacking him

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Speaker 1: with life and falsehood. I think they should come out

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Speaker 1: and show the proof of their attacks in their lives.

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Speaker 1: If they can't show it, they all get a year

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Speaker 1: in one Pattamo along with the owner and CEO of

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Speaker 1: that news media outlets, put them all over there for

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Speaker 1: a year. Listen, let me tell you something. The best

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Speaker 1: thing that Trump can do. You know, I was interviewed

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Speaker 1: by Ted Cobble a BC. This is Nightline, uh yesterday

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Speaker 1: for you know. He interviews me for an hour and

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Speaker 1: and literally three minutes will show up on the show.

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Speaker 1: He told me, I give my first answer goes none

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Speaker 1: of that's going to get in. I'm like, well, why

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Speaker 1: am I even here? You know, I mean, I get

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Speaker 1: along with Copple, you know, he loves to be a

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Speaker 1: hardass with me. But I I said, all right, I'll

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Speaker 1: sit down I'm like, why am I sitting here for

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Speaker 1: an hour? For three minutes? It's such a waste of

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Speaker 1: my time. Anyway, and one of the things that he

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Speaker 1: just wanted to focus, well, does Trump telling the truth?

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Speaker 1: Do we need journalists? I said, not really we we

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Speaker 1: journalism is dead. It's not coming back, as my opinion,

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Speaker 1: but anyway, Yeah, they've all Hell's broken loose. The media

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Speaker 1: is calling him a liar every day, and it is

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Speaker 1: absolutely repugnant to me, how abusively biased, how lazy, and

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Speaker 1: how wrong the media is. They're the ones that said,

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Speaker 1: why are tapping not the president? They first, They said

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Speaker 1: it first, and it turns out and we'll learn this

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Speaker 1: later in the program. Don't miss this interview at the

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Speaker 1: last half hour of the show today, John Solomon and

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Speaker 1: Sarah Carter. They have a piece that confirms the FISA

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Speaker 1: warrant was issued. They go into great specificity in detail.

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Speaker 1: It did target servers at Trump Tower. I do know

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Speaker 1: the servers for the campaign or in Trump Tower. And

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Speaker 1: there's no way on God's green Earth that President Obama

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Speaker 1: didn't know about it. He may not have warded it,

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Speaker 1: but he knew about it. And that is the question

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Speaker 1: that he should have been asked, and everyone runs with

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Speaker 1: the statement and says the president lied, No, there was surveillance.

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Speaker 1: According to John Solomon, he worked twenty years for the

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Speaker 1: AP and Sarah Carter and both spend time at the

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Speaker 1: Washington Times, reputable mainstream news paper, that they're saying, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the in fact, the Fieser warrant was issued, and they

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Speaker 1: found out in the Fiser warrant that in fact they

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Speaker 1: targeted servers in Trump Tower. So maybe he was wrong

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Speaker 1: and say wire tapping. But now we're just dealing with

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Speaker 1: a technicality for crying out loud and it's driving me insane. Alright, one, Shawn,

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Speaker 1: if you want to be a part of the program,

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Speaker 1: all right, when we come back, News Round Up, Information Overload.

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Speaker 1: Congressman Jim Jordan, Congressman Dave Bratt, both against the healthcare bill,

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Speaker 1: and Dr Josh Umber, who came up with one of

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Speaker 1: the most innovative, creative solutions. That's all coming up next val.

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Speaker 1: This is monumental, exciting conservative reform that fixes these problems.

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Speaker 1: I've been working on this for twenty years. This is exciting. Well,

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Speaker 1: our plan is different. The House plan is Obamacarelite, keeps subsidies,

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Speaker 1: keeps taxes, actually keeps an individual mandate. I think amidst

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Speaker 1: the horse excrement, we can find a pony around here

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Speaker 1: somewhere holding them accountable. Sean gets the answers no one

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Speaker 1: else does. Freedom is back in style. Welcome to the Revolution,

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Speaker 1: New Shawn Entity Show behind the scenes, information on breaking

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Speaker 1: news and are bold inspired solutions for America. Stay right

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Speaker 1: here for our final news round up and information overload

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Speaker 1: and our top story. What is emerging as an intramural

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Speaker 1: battle even verging on the the the precipice of a

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Speaker 1: civil war over this healthcare bill. Congressman Jim Jordan of

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Speaker 1: Ohio is with us, and he's one of the founders.

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Speaker 1: Former chairman of the Freedom Caucus. Congressman Dave Bratt is

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Speaker 1: with us as well. Congressman for Virginia, also with the

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Speaker 1: Freedom Caucus, and also Dr Josh umber of Atlas M.

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Speaker 1: D Out of Wichita, Kansas, who I've been talking a

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Speaker 1: lot about. And Uh, Congressman Bratt, let me begin with you,

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Speaker 1: and Congressman Jordan will begin with you as well. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Here's what I don't understand. I interviewed all of you,

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Speaker 1: I interviewed other Freedom Caucus colleagues. All of you had

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Speaker 1: concerns before they released this bill. All of you expressed them,

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Speaker 1: articulated them, and he didn't even have access to it.

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Speaker 1: But the things you were hearing were in the bill.

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Speaker 1: Then the bill is released, the President sent out to

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Speaker 1: sell the bill, and none of you guys at the

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Speaker 1: Freedom Caucus and there are enough of you to stop

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Speaker 1: this bill from ever becoming law. And I don't understand

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Speaker 1: why things weren't fixed before the bill was released. Can

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Speaker 1: you explain that, Congressman Brett? Yeah, Well, the language was

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Speaker 1: strong early on, and as Jim Jordan's always says, we

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Speaker 1: need to do promise we're gonna do. And so the

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Speaker 1: promise was very clear, we're gonna repeal Obamacare. President Trump

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Speaker 1: land on, we're gonna repeal Obamacare. And we all voted

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Speaker 1: on a full repeal of Obamacare, and all Republicans voted yes,

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Speaker 1: and the House and the Senate a year ago. And

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Speaker 1: so now, uh, the voters are just learning what's going on,

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Speaker 1: and it turns out we're not going to repeal Obamacare.

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Speaker 1: And so the language in d C. And you're familiar

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Speaker 1: with you do with politicians talking to you all that

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Speaker 1: it all hinges on that word. If you get rid

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Speaker 1: of Obamacare, you get rid of the regulation, and so

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Speaker 1: we assumed that's what's gonna be in the Leadership bill.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna repeal Obamacare. We're gonna get rid of the rags.

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Speaker 1: We're geting get rid of his Bronze Plan, Silver Plan,

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Speaker 1: all that. We're gonna get rid of all the stuff disciples,

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Speaker 1: you're individual choice, and instead of just dealing with coverage issues,

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Speaker 1: which is what Obamacare did, we're gonna finally focus on

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Speaker 1: getting the price of healthcare down by getting people the freedom.

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Speaker 1: But but but I don't understand that. You know, now

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be a big public fight over this. Although

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Speaker 1: I heard that you guys are meeting with the president

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Speaker 1: later this evening or sometime today. Is that true? Today,

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Speaker 1: get to meet with you tomorrow, Sean. And you met

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Speaker 1: with the Vice president yesterday, and as the Vice president

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Speaker 1: sympathetic to your point of view, Congressman Jordan's yeah, he said, Look,

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Speaker 1: this is this is the start of the debate, and

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Speaker 1: this is how it works in American government, in American democracy.

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Speaker 1: You got a bill and now it's time to debate it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, frankly, the bill is introduced about thirty six

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Speaker 1: hours ago and they're already marking it up. I don't

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Speaker 1: know that. Well, I don't understand. But tell me. Maybe

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Speaker 1: I'm just because I'm not a Washington guy. Maybe I

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Speaker 1: just think differently. Why if I if I'm putting out

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Speaker 1: a bill and I know that a significant portion of

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Speaker 1: the caucus doesn't like the bill, that, why wouldn't I

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Speaker 1: resolve those issues behind closed doors together as a team,

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Speaker 1: come to consensus. Not everybody's not going to get everything

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Speaker 1: they want, but at least do it behind closed doors.

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Speaker 1: And then maybe when you release the bill, and maybe

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Speaker 1: this is just you know, you know, but the President

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Speaker 1: goes out with all of you guys, every Republican in

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Speaker 1: the House, and sent it behind him and says, we

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Speaker 1: all agree, this is our bill. This will fix Obamacare,

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Speaker 1: repeal it, and replace it as we promised. Why not

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Speaker 1: do it that way? I guess I've guess I'm way

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Speaker 1: out of touch of I thought that target and we

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Speaker 1: would have appreciated that, But that wasn't what happened. Remember,

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Speaker 1: we had the leak version a few weeks ago, and

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Speaker 1: we were critical of that fact. We took a position

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Speaker 1: against the leaks version a few weeks ago, and then

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Speaker 1: loaning the whole thirty or six hours ago, we find

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Speaker 1: out the introduced version is not in any ways really

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Speaker 1: different from the leak version, so that it would have

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Speaker 1: been nice if we could have got together and support

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Speaker 1: a plan. So what we're doing to say now all

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Speaker 1: of you go out yesterday and publicly say you can't

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Speaker 1: support the bill, and then their answer as well, with

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Speaker 1: this is coming out in three phases, When when couldn't

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Speaker 1: it all have been done united in one phase. That's

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Speaker 1: my frustration, And with all due respect to Congress, you

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Speaker 1: guys have had eight years of saying you're going to

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Speaker 1: repeal and replace this, and we still don't have a

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Speaker 1: consensus plan. We sean here's the contents plan. Is the

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Speaker 1: plan we introduced. We introduced today. We introduced the build

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Speaker 1: that says do the same thing we did a year ago,

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Speaker 1: will clean repeal, and then a separate piece of legislation

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Speaker 1: which is replaced with what will what what Da've talked about,

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Speaker 1: which will bring down the cost of insurance. That is

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Speaker 1: the only plan consistent with what we told the voters.

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Speaker 1: This plan is not. This plan says we're gonna repeal Obomecare,

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Speaker 1: but we're going to keep the Obamacare taxes in place.

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Speaker 1: It says we're gonna repeal Obomecare, but we're gonna take

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Speaker 1: the Medicaid expansion and extend it. And it also says

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Speaker 1: we're repeal Obamacare, but we're going to keep in place

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Speaker 1: this mandate in a different form, which is sure sur

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Speaker 1: charge of insurance can charge you. So that's that's not

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Speaker 1: what we told the voters. So we make this way

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Speaker 1: too complicated. You know, Alwa said in our plan, I

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Speaker 1: just you guys have this has become a nightmare headache

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Speaker 1: that need not have happened. This is an unforced error

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Speaker 1: in my mind. Now the reason I brought Dr Josh Umbern.

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Speaker 1: He's out of Wichita, Kansas. Uh dr Rumbers say hi

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Speaker 1: to Congressman Jim Jordan's Congressman Day Bratt. Uh dr Umberg

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Speaker 1: has come up with a cooperative system. Can you just

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Speaker 1: in a as shorter way as you can a synopsis

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Speaker 1: of what you do down there and how big this is? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Uh we have fixed healthcare with the free market and

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Speaker 1: the shortest way. Um yeah. Again, we need to change

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Speaker 1: the conversation over to what we actually need to ensure

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Speaker 1: because what Shawn's talking about is our business model of

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Speaker 1: insurance free for primary care, ten dollars for kids, fifty

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Speaker 1: dollars months for adults, for unlimited offices. It's no co pays,

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Speaker 1: free procedures, wholesale meadicine labs up to saving And did

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Speaker 1: you negotiate with the labs and the pharmaceutical companies to

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Speaker 1: get discount? Absolutely? And you were able to make deals

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Speaker 1: with them on on the drugs that most people use,

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Speaker 1: you know, like see Alice and Viagra. I'm kidding, like

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Speaker 1: like like like, by the way, isn't that the se

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Speaker 1: Alos commercial the dumbest thing you've ever seen. You've got

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Speaker 1: a guy in one tub and a woman in another tub,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, they're holding hands across the tubs. It's yeah,

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Speaker 1: apparently some doctors. This is not my area of expertise,

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Speaker 1: but but I'm talking about serious blood pressure medicine and

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Speaker 1: cholesterol medicine in other words, chemotherapy, cholesteral messin, diabetic. If

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Speaker 1: you imagine, we all know the health care system is broken,

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Speaker 1: we all talked about the waste, but then when there

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Speaker 1: actually is an opportunity to show those savings, I think

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Speaker 1: somehow we are resistant to that idea. Taking how many

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Speaker 1: people are part of your practice. How many people do

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Speaker 1: you and your practice serve In the Wichita area, we

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Speaker 1: have five doctors aren't practice and each doctor is close

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Speaker 1: to six under patients have unlimited care. I could walk

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Speaker 1: into your office is as a member of your cooperative

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01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:37,639
Speaker 1: any day and if I need stitches, if I need

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01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 1: a test, if I'm going to get it done that day,

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01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 1: that day, you have seven access to your doctor by phone, text, email.

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Speaker 1: We we broughten the idea of what care is because

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Speaker 1: now you don't have to just come in and pay

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Speaker 1: for a copay, you don't even have to leave work,

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Speaker 1: and even you even offer some cancer treatment. But god forbid,

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Speaker 1: somebody gets in a bad accident, if somebody has a

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01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 1: heart attack, if if or if they need chemo, you know,

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01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 1: you could even give them the chemo. But they can

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Speaker 1: get catastrophic insurance that would cover all of those really

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Speaker 1: big items that maybe a local office couldn't handle. It

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01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 1: truly is the perfect blend there where where we want

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Speaker 1: to work with insurance companies. We understand that they're a

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Speaker 1: critical uh part of the system, but we needed to

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Speaker 1: work more efficiently. Again, we are pro efficiency, not anti

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Speaker 1: government or anti insurance. So the insurance companies are actually healthier,

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01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 1: more profitable by working with this model because their waste

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01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 1: goes down. And how many other doctors around the country

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Speaker 1: did you educate them on this model and they've duplicated it.

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01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 1: We've personally helped over two doctors convert to this mall

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01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 1: in the last two and a half years, but there's

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Speaker 1: probably five hundred to a thousand doing it or starting

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01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 1: it is a wave of coming across the country because

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Speaker 1: patients and employers are you know, maybe I'm just a

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01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 1: dumb old talk show host congress from brad but you know,

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Speaker 1: what the hell do I know? But that sounds like

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01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:01,719
Speaker 1: a genius idea to me that benefit everybody. Why can't

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01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 1: we dumplicate that? Well, that's the free market. That's what

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01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:07,600
Speaker 1: the free market does, right. It takes creativity and innovation

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01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:10,680
Speaker 1: and allows you to execute without having to go through

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01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 1: the red tape. So the doctor is a genius. He

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01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:15,800
Speaker 1: just told the country the solution the rest of the

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01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 1: world who can't afford our exorbitant insurance, that's the way

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Speaker 1: they operate. That's how healthcare is always operated. And that's

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Speaker 1: the exactive doctor whose reputation is good at low costs

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01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 1: are going to be good for you and your family,

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Speaker 1: and you pay for it. If I'd be a part

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Speaker 1: of this cooperative, That's what I would do, And then

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01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 1: you can decrease employer's insurance by thirty I wanted to

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01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 1: say that as the doctor list at the leadership plan,

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01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:42,639
Speaker 1: because the leadership plan, of my judgment, is subsidizing unaffordable insurance.

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Speaker 1: It's it's like in your tail and just keep striving

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Speaker 1: up costs. That you agree, doctor, I would agree. The

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01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 1: Republicans are guilty of the sin of unoriginality. Um, they

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01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:54,639
Speaker 1: took something, they spun it around, they put a new

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01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 1: hat on it, but it hasn't changed. It's not making

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01:16:57,240 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 1: health care great again exactly. Is more of the same aim.

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01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:03,759
Speaker 1: What we really need is to have a conversation that um,

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01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 1: most care can be provided outside of insurance rule. Here.

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01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 1: Insurance is still a vital part of that, but now

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01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:15,280
Speaker 1: we can afford to do have less insurance help employers.

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Speaker 1: If a certain percent of small business or certain percent

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Speaker 1: of jobs come from small businesses, and we can decrease

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01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 1: insurance cost by thirty six for small businesses, Trump could

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01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 1: have an economic boom. The likes that Reagan would be

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01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:30,599
Speaker 1: jealous of if we could fix that going forward, and

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01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 1: then there'd be more jobs, more people have health care,

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Speaker 1: and more people have everything they need. But then we're

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Speaker 1: even more efficient for Medicaid dollars. Block grant that out

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01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:41,639
Speaker 1: to the states, let them do fifty experiments. But if

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01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 1: the state's paying fifty dollars for a blood test that

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01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:47,599
Speaker 1: I get for a dollar sixty five today, then then

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01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 1: we can do a whole lot more blood tests for

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01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 1: Medicaid while at the same time being but this is

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01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:56,679
Speaker 1: unbelievable to me. And you know, I have passed dr

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Speaker 1: numbers name and number onto a lot of important people,

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01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:02,240
Speaker 1: and nobody's gotten in touch with you as far as

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01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 1: I know, your doctor, right, you're the only one leading

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01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 1: the charge. This is all coming down on on your shoulders.

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Speaker 1: Broad maybe a lot. You know how many teams, you

1346
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 1: know how many people hate me today? Uh? Well, maybe

1347
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:16,839
Speaker 1: maybe more, but but least now they have good reasons

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01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 1: because you're trying to fix something that not everybody wants

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01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 1: to fix. Congressman Jordan, are you're trying to get into

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01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 1: Is that from Dave Bratt here and the doctor You're

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01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:27,799
Speaker 1: making a point, right, and in every economics textbook across

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01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 1: the country. The fundamental error slipped in, and the doctor

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01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 1: just talked about the rule insurance is for insuring catastrophic event.

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01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:37,720
Speaker 1: But when when after World War Two we went to

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Speaker 1: the employer provided healthcare deal, then you start with its

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01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:44,679
Speaker 1: few ensuring all of healthcare provisions. So then you put

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01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,599
Speaker 1: your co pay in and everything else is free to you.

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01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 1: And once you co pay and the rest is free, well,

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01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:52,639
Speaker 1: guess what you do. You over consume, right, And that's

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01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 1: the fundamental problem in healthcare. And so the doctor is saying,

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01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 1: let's break that up and let's get insurance back to

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01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 1: being what it's supposed to be. Four and then let's

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01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 1: let people put money in their H s a s

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Speaker 1: And pay for just regular healthcare. Al Right, guys, stay

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Speaker 1: stay right there. We're gonna continue. Freedom Caucus members Dave Bratt,

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01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:12,760
Speaker 1: Jim Jordan's and Dr josh Umberg will take a quick break.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to more of your calls and the final

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01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 1: half hour. Way, do you hear the story we're about

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01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 1: to break. There is no Russia connection. I'll explain with

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01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 1: the reporters breaking the story. That's next to America and

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Speaker 1: American's first. Now there's a novel idea. You're on the

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Speaker 1: sean alright, as we continue, Congressman Jim Jordans of Ohio

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Speaker 1: o in, Congressman Dave Bratt of Virginia and Dr Josh

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Speaker 1: Umber which Kansas Atlas Medical or Atlas m D. Right

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Speaker 1: now that we've heard Dr Rumber explain all of these things,

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01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 1: Congressman Jordan and Congressman Brad, I guess the question for

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01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:18,040
Speaker 1: you is how do we get not only healthcare savings accounts,

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01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 1: a full repeal, get rid of another entitlement, and get

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01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 1: these cooperatives as part of the solution. Because it sounds

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01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:27,120
Speaker 1: so amazing to me, and it's being duplicated sort of

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01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:30,640
Speaker 1: underneath the the healthcare system that we have. Now, how

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01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:33,680
Speaker 1: does this all get incorporated based on the release of

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01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:35,640
Speaker 1: this bill. Well, the first thing you gotta doution on

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01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 1: is repeal Obamacare. I'm sure the doctor would agree with us.

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01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 1: You can do free market until you get rid of

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01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 1: the Affordable Care Act, which has driven up the cost.

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01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 1: Youer choices higher cost. You have to get rid of that.

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01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 1: So that's why we have to clean repill. You do that,

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01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 1: you repeal it, and then you focus on passing legislation

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01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:54,560
Speaker 1: that would empower people in the car. Are you confident

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01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:56,799
Speaker 1: that you can get to the president the vice president

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01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 1: and get this done right? Because here's the problem, Congressman

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01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 1: Jordan's if as soon as you repeal and replace, you

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01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 1: own it, Republicans own it, the President owns it. If

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01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 1: it doesn't work, the blame will come on all of you. Right, Well,

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01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 1: we'll understand to repeal the effective day. We said we're

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01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 1: going to repeal it, but it's effective on December thirty,

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01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 1: two thousand eighteen. So you've got to have an offer

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01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 1: him so you can begin to form a market and

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01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 1: people the transparency that exists under under the Doctor's program,

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01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 1: that that that will exist in the full market. You

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01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 1: have to give us some time for that. That's what

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01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 1: we passed just a year ago. So we're saying, why

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01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:32,559
Speaker 1: not do what we all said we were going to do,

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01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:35,760
Speaker 1: what we all voted for. Get rid of what is

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01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:38,200
Speaker 1: the answer that the leadership in the House and senator

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01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:40,600
Speaker 1: giving you, because that's not what they wrote. It's what

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01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:42,840
Speaker 1: John Casey talks about. And so we got to make

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01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 1: sure these folks on medicate medicaid can stay there. This

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01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 1: expanded population. We can extend that and we can put

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01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 1: more people on Medicaid. The approach we would prefer is no,

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01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:52,720
Speaker 1: no, no no, no, Let's bring back a market Let's bring

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01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:55,639
Speaker 1: back affordable insurance. Instead of measuring success is how many

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01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 1: folks who can keep on this government medicaid program. Why

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01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:00,720
Speaker 1: don't we measure success by bringing back a marketplace like

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01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:03,080
Speaker 1: the doctors doing in Kansas and have more people get

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01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:05,640
Speaker 1: the insurance they need for catastrophic care and then have

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01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 1: the kind of health care they need at low cost

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01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:10,800
Speaker 1: with good quality. What about those that are saying that

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01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 1: there are well, I guess congressional legislative obstacles because the

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01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 1: original Obamacare was passed by reconciliation. Nor do they feel

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01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:22,479
Speaker 1: that they're gonna get eight Democrats in the Senate to

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01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 1: buy into what the Republicans do. How's what's your answer

1424
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 1: to that? That's a legitimate concern, and I understand that.

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01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:31,640
Speaker 1: But we're also hearing that Dr Price at HHS is

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01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:33,599
Speaker 1: going to be able to change some rules and help

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01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 1: us with the regulations that are driving up the costs.

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01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:38,040
Speaker 1: There's a lot of discretion in the healthcare bill that

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01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 1: he can change almost everything. So let him do that.

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01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 1: Nothing that nothing work. We're doing would preclude him from

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01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 1: doing just that. All we're saying is repeal Obamacare effective

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01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 1: date in two years, time for the marketplace to start

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01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:50,639
Speaker 1: to form. Let dr price, get rid of the regulations.

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01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:53,000
Speaker 1: I will bring down the cost of insurance, and then

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01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 1: let's pass the legislation in the normal legislative process. Health

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01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 1: saving the Accounts Association, health plans, the things that will

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01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 1: help with the mark a place and help bring back

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01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 1: affordable insurance. That's like a reasonable plan. Congressman Brad will

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01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:08,599
Speaker 1: give you a final word here. You have ten seconds. Yeah. Well,

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01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 1: and and you know President Trump is from New York,

1441
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 1: You've got the big heart. And so he says, look,

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01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:16,040
Speaker 1: we want to take care of everybody. And I think

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01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:18,439
Speaker 1: that's part of the big tension here, right, And so

1444
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:20,680
Speaker 1: you're talking about breakaway in the Senate. We want to

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01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:22,640
Speaker 1: cover everybody. What you got to do it the right way.

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01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:24,600
Speaker 1: So where Jim just laid out with the Dodger just

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01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 1: laid out, that's the best health care system. And then

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01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 1: about about five of the serious cases, right, the pre

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01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 1: existing conditions account for over half of health care spending

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01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 1: in the country. So that's a separable issue where the

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01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:39,559
Speaker 1: President could still say, look, we're gonna take care if

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01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 1: we have compassions. But you don't arrange the whole healthcare

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01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 1: architecture for the whole country based on five percent of

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01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:49,000
Speaker 1: the people. You say, look, here's our safety net, here

1455
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 1: the welfare programs we have, here's what we're gonna do

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01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 1: for pre existing and you can take those a lot,

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01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:55,960
Speaker 1: grant the money to the states to take care of that,

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01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 1: and then Trump's a win win win across the board.

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01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 1: I hope you'll tell that to the President when you

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01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 1: meet with them tomorrow. Thank you, Congressman Jordan's, Congressman Bratt,

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01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:05,280
Speaker 1: and Dr Humber. Good to talk to you all. Eight

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01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 1: hundred nine for one, Shawn Tolfrey telephone number. Way do

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01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:12,559
Speaker 1: you hear the investigative report that just broke John Solomon,

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01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:15,639
Speaker 1: Sarah Carter and what they have come up with here

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01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 1: explaining the FBI found no criminal activity between the Trump

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01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:23,840
Speaker 1: campaign and Russia. They confirm a FISA warrant was issue

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01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 1: in October, and they confirmed that Donald Trump, his entire

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01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 1: campaign was surveiled in the closing weeks of that campaign.

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Speaker 1: That's next Holy accountable, Sean, The answers no one else

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Speaker 1: does desertion the truth about Congress. Alright now until the

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Speaker 1: top of the hour one, Shawn, if you want to

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Speaker 1: be a part of the program. So many unanswered questions.

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01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 1: Here's what we do know as it relates to all

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01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 1: the leaking that's gone on. We heard and we know

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01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 1: the New York Times, and we know the BBC, and

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01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:30,759
Speaker 1: we know McClatchy, and we know other news networks, Washington Post,

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01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:34,639
Speaker 1: they all talked about wire tapping at Trump Tower. And

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Speaker 1: we heard about the June request that was supposedly denied,

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Speaker 1: as it relates to a fiser request ultimately culminating in

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Speaker 1: a more modified request that was granted in October. Again,

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Speaker 1: this would be people within the Obama administration. And Obama's

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01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:51,760
Speaker 1: statement was was more than part when he said he

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01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 1: or nobody at the White House ordered any type of

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01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 1: spying or surveillance on Donald Trump and Trump Tower. Well,

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01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 1: there's a block us. The article out today and it's

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Speaker 1: written co written by John Solomon and Sarah Carter. And

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Speaker 1: what's fascinating about this is, well, you have John Solomon

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01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 1: is an award winning investigative journalist, chief operating officer at

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Speaker 1: Circa dot Com. Sarah Carter, senior national correspondent there as well. Um,

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Speaker 1: thank you both of me with us. John, didn't you

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01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:21,760
Speaker 1: wipe for the A P for a long time years?

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01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:24,280
Speaker 1: Twenty years? And what other places did you work before

1493
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 1: you you went to where you are now. I worked

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01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 1: out with the editor of the Washingtime for many years.

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01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 1: And Sarah, what's your background? Oh, I traveled all over

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01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 1: worked with John at the Washington Times. I sent most

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01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:36,599
Speaker 1: of my time on the US Mexico border and then

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01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 1: later in Afghanistan and Iraq. And I cover national security

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01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 1: now for John here at CERCA dot com and within

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Speaker 1: Claire Broadcast Group. Now, in this piece, tell me if

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01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:49,840
Speaker 1: I'm reading it properly, you both confirmed that a surveillance

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01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:53,879
Speaker 1: warrant was issued for the main server at Trump Towers.

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01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 1: That true. I'm not sure it was the main service, Sean,

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01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:58,720
Speaker 1: but it was a server that had to do with

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01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 1: email marketing, and the FBI wanted to take a look

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01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 1: at it because it was appearing to have some sort

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01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 1: of communication with a Russian entity. Well, I know as

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01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 1: a matter of fact that everybody in the campaign, with

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01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:12,599
Speaker 1: maybe one or two exceptions that I know, all got

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01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 1: on the Trump email in other words, that the Trump

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01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:19,439
Speaker 1: organization email server. So there is a possibility that everything

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01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:24,559
Speaker 1: involving the campaign was possibly surveiled once that FISA warrant

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01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:27,760
Speaker 1: was issued. Is that possible. It's possible, though. Our understanding

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01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 1: is that this this server was actually narrowly construed to

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01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:34,560
Speaker 1: do email marketing. It predated the campaign and wasn't specifically

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01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:36,840
Speaker 1: a server that was used for campaign email. That's that's

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01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:39,519
Speaker 1: our understanding. Okay, then let's talk a little bit about

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01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:42,559
Speaker 1: what you discovered, Sarah. Yeah, one of the things that

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01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 1: we discovered was that actually this investigation into the server

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01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:49,880
Speaker 1: was very brief. It was a very brief investigation, and

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01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 1: they found nothing in the server at that point in

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01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 1: time that would warrant any kind of criminal charges towards

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01:27:56,439 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 1: anyone on the Trump team. I thought that was very interesting. Uh.

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01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:03,960
Speaker 1: They We also discovered throughout the process of this investigation

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01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:06,599
Speaker 1: that in the in June, we hear all these reports

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01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:09,759
Speaker 1: about a June fights are warrant. What we were told

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01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 1: was absolutely not. There was no June fight a warrant

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01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:16,680
Speaker 1: with Trump's name on it um and they was there

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01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 1: a request for the server? Was there a request of

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01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 1: any kind brought to the FISA courts or no um.

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01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:25,320
Speaker 1: I believe John would John would know that part of

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01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 1: the story much better. Yean, So I think in October

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01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:29,559
Speaker 1: they did go to the FIST at court and asked

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01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:32,040
Speaker 1: specifically to check the records of this one server that

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01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:34,880
Speaker 1: appeared to be corresponding with a bank in Russia. When

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01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:36,640
Speaker 1: they when they looked into it, they found out there

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01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 1: was an innocuous explanation for the data things doing between

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01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:41,800
Speaker 1: New York and Russia and what other words, to do

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01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:45,280
Speaker 1: with Russian influence the media, Hillary Clinton, the Democratic Party,

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01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:48,960
Speaker 1: all the talk about Russia and the Trump campaign. They

1541
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:51,920
Speaker 1: haven't found a shred of evidence at all, and yet

1542
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:55,880
Speaker 1: the media keeps regurgitating this narrative. Is that true? That's true?

1543
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:57,599
Speaker 1: And in fact, I think that's one of the reasons

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01:28:57,600 --> 01:28:59,680
Speaker 1: that our sources work so closely with us, which is

1545
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 1: to spell a narrative that the FBI has been obsessed

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01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:05,120
Speaker 1: with Trump connections to Russia. That we were told time

1547
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:07,120
Speaker 1: and time again over the last few days that the

1548
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:11,280
Speaker 1: FBI really only incidentally and on an off handed way,

1549
01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:13,600
Speaker 1: stumbled onto a couple of things that involved Trump, and

1550
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:15,840
Speaker 1: that none of it has been a primary focus of

1551
01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:18,559
Speaker 1: the Russia hacking investigation. How high up can you tell

1552
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:21,000
Speaker 1: us are your sources. In other words, for example, one

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01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:23,280
Speaker 1: official you quota saying I've never seen a case so

1554
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 1: misrepresented and leaks so damaging to a process that was

1555
01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:29,200
Speaker 1: meant to be conducted in secret, so that foreign powers

1556
01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:33,440
Speaker 1: don't know what we know and people's reputations aren't tarnished unfairly.

1557
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:35,519
Speaker 1: It's a great question our sources are in a good

1558
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:37,719
Speaker 1: position to know what was really going on as opposed

1559
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:39,600
Speaker 1: to west been reported. And one of the things that

1560
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:41,800
Speaker 1: we highlight in this story is that a lot of

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01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:45,280
Speaker 1: this leaking began right after President Obama, in his final

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01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 1: hours in office, issued an executive order that allowed f

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01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:51,439
Speaker 1: and surveillance intelligence data to be shared with a lot

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01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:53,959
Speaker 1: more people than it normally had been shared within sixteen

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01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 1: other agencies. But by the way, I've talked a lot about,

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01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 1: this is an executive Order twelve three three, which had

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01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:01,520
Speaker 1: been on the books for some time, and what Obama

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01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:04,080
Speaker 1: did is add to that that executive order, and as

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01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:06,519
Speaker 1: much as he allowed the sharing of you know, signet

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01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:09,400
Speaker 1: intelligence in other words, when General Flynn when they were

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01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:12,840
Speaker 1: were surveiling, which they should do the Russian ambassador. Isn't

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01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:15,559
Speaker 1: it true that once an American is identified on such

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01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:18,000
Speaker 1: a call, that they're supposed to minimize the listening of

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01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:20,960
Speaker 1: the American speaking, and they're not supposed to identify that

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01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:23,879
Speaker 1: American and certainly not leak it. Aren't They all felonies

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01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:27,640
Speaker 1: and violations of the espionage actly not supposed to leak it.

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01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:30,280
Speaker 1: You're certainly not supposed to leak This type of classified

1578
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:34,479
Speaker 1: information is guarded heavily. But I was told, Sarah, I

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01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:38,200
Speaker 1: was told by a very high ranking intelligence official that

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01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:42,720
Speaker 1: when they do surveil and Americans are identified, that they

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01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:46,000
Speaker 1: are to minimize the listening of the American because they

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01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:48,360
Speaker 1: don't have a warrant. And number two, when they write

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01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:51,439
Speaker 1: up their report, a standard operating procedure that they do

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01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:53,880
Speaker 1: not mention that person by name. They used the term

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01:30:53,960 --> 01:31:00,360
Speaker 1: generally an American General flynn Um at the time is

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01:31:00,439 --> 01:31:03,639
Speaker 1: under a security clearance. He has a high level security clearance.

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01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:05,599
Speaker 1: When you when you sign up for a high level

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01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:08,519
Speaker 1: security clearance, basically when you're granted one, you kind of

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01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:10,760
Speaker 1: find a way You're right, So the government has the

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01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:15,360
Speaker 1: right to surveil people with high level security clearances in

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01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:18,200
Speaker 1: an effort to minimize harm. For example, if you go

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01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 1: back to the Robert Hanson situation with espionage and the FBI,

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01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:26,240
Speaker 1: So there is this kind of disclosure. But but all

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01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 1: of that, all of that laid out, you still do

1595
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:34,920
Speaker 1: not disclose any information on those type of classified monitoring,

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01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:39,720
Speaker 1: and that would be that would be a felony by

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01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 1: my understanding of the Espionage Act. So certainly, General Flynn, Well,

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01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:46,200
Speaker 1: let me go back to the leaks. Do you both

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01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:49,440
Speaker 1: agree with me based on your understanding of the President

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01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:54,040
Speaker 1: fourteen days before leaving office revising Executive Order twelve three

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01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:57,479
Speaker 1: three three to allow the signet intelligence, like in the

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01:31:57,520 --> 01:32:00,640
Speaker 1: case of General Flynn, to be shared with sixteen other agencies.

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01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:03,439
Speaker 1: Could that have been done as a reason to make

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01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:06,000
Speaker 1: it more difficult to find out who leakers are? Or

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01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:08,080
Speaker 1: is it a strange coincidence that as soon as they

1606
01:32:08,080 --> 01:32:10,920
Speaker 1: did that and left the administration and a new administration

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01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:13,559
Speaker 1: comes in that all these leaks stop happening from the

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01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:16,719
Speaker 1: intelligence communities that seemed to be a connection of dots,

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01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:18,600
Speaker 1: or is that a step too far? I think the

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01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:20,879
Speaker 1: people on the front line, seawan, the people who actually

1611
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:23,320
Speaker 1: guard this intelligence on a daily basis and and trusted,

1612
01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:26,559
Speaker 1: were surprised by the expansion and they immediately saw the

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01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:28,920
Speaker 1: impact there were people that started to leak transcripts that

1614
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:31,160
Speaker 1: were never intended to be leaked. And so just take

1615
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:33,840
Speaker 1: the Flynn intercept percepting. As a result of that leak,

1616
01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 1: the Russian ambassador now knows a phone that he might

1617
01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:38,479
Speaker 1: have thought was clean is now being monitored by the

1618
01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:42,679
Speaker 1: US government and also Director Flynn or Nationscarity advisor. Flynn's

1619
01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:46,599
Speaker 1: reputations impacted in a process career was ruined over a

1620
01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:49,599
Speaker 1: felony that was committed against him. Did you see James

1621
01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:52,280
Speaker 1: Clapper on Meet the Press this weekend. Did James Clapper

1622
01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:54,360
Speaker 1: lie when he said he had known knowledge of this

1623
01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:56,720
Speaker 1: FISA warrant? Well, he narrowed it right. He said he

1624
01:32:56,760 --> 01:32:58,960
Speaker 1: need no night knowledge of a FISI warrant against the

1625
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:02,120
Speaker 1: President's phone, And all of our reporting indicates there's no

1626
01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:05,519
Speaker 1: indication that the presidents So perhaps Donald Trump misspoke when

1627
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:08,880
Speaker 1: he said wire tap, but surveillance did happen. You're telling

1628
01:33:08,880 --> 01:33:12,000
Speaker 1: a hundred percent that VISA warrant was issued in October

1629
01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:14,960
Speaker 1: and it had to do with servers and Trump Tower. Correct,

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01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:18,759
Speaker 1: that's correct, correct, So that's spying on an opposition candidate.

1631
01:33:19,160 --> 01:33:21,840
Speaker 1: Is there any possible way based on your background and

1632
01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:24,439
Speaker 1: experience that the President of the United States didn't know

1633
01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:26,320
Speaker 1: about it, Well, that's a good question. We know he

1634
01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:28,439
Speaker 1: definitely knows about it when he's briefed in December, because

1635
01:33:28,479 --> 01:33:30,040
Speaker 1: we were told that it was part of his briefing

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01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:33,040
Speaker 1: that this went on when he knew in October. Is

1637
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:35,320
Speaker 1: still something we want to report on. And also, how

1638
01:33:35,320 --> 01:33:38,200
Speaker 1: did the FBI find out about this server information? We're

1639
01:33:38,200 --> 01:33:41,160
Speaker 1: still reporting who tipped off the FBI to to that

1640
01:33:41,240 --> 01:33:43,800
Speaker 1: server and its activity. That's something that we still like

1641
01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:46,679
Speaker 1: to report on. And they found nothing. Again, there's nothing

1642
01:33:46,720 --> 01:33:49,760
Speaker 1: to the Russian story, and the FBI looks at it

1643
01:33:49,800 --> 01:33:52,559
Speaker 1: as nothing at this point, correct, right, They do believe

1644
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:54,559
Speaker 1: that the Russians tried to influence the election, but that

1645
01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:57,200
Speaker 1: there was nothing untoward about what. Right Now, let me

1646
01:33:57,280 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 1: take with the wiki leaks revelations yesterday, and I want

1647
01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:03,080
Speaker 1: to be very very specific in what I'm talking about.

1648
01:34:03,479 --> 01:34:07,040
Speaker 1: Wiki leaks was was very very specific, and even the

1649
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:10,480
Speaker 1: Washington Post had a very interesting article about this today,

1650
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:13,439
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, basically they're saying that the CIA

1651
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:19,240
Speaker 1: uses stolen malware to attribute cyber attacks to nations like Russia. So,

1652
01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:21,559
Speaker 1: in other words, is there a possibility that it could

1653
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:23,920
Speaker 1: have that all of this could have originated, all of

1654
01:34:23,920 --> 01:34:27,320
Speaker 1: this Russia talk, all the Russia hacking, that Russians were

1655
01:34:27,439 --> 01:34:30,559
Speaker 1: influenced in the election. Uh, couldn't have been within our

1656
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:34,000
Speaker 1: own government, except they just basically put a fingerprint of

1657
01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:37,360
Speaker 1: the Russian attack on it, because that's what they're saying

1658
01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:39,639
Speaker 1: they can do. Well, let's keep in mind that Wiki

1659
01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:41,679
Speaker 1: Leaks has always said that a lot of the materials

1660
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:43,559
Speaker 1: that it received did not come from the Russians, right,

1661
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:46,639
Speaker 1: They've always mandated that. Well. I interviewed Julian Assans John

1662
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:49,040
Speaker 1: and I asked him in great detail, and he said

1663
01:34:49,080 --> 01:34:53,080
Speaker 1: absolutely was no state. There was another report that those

1664
01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:55,639
Speaker 1: documents as it relates to Hillary and the email server

1665
01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:59,320
Speaker 1: and Podesta, were handed at American University in a wooded area.

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01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:01,600
Speaker 1: Did you read that this? Right? That has been opposite. So,

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01:35:01,640 --> 01:35:03,720
Speaker 1: I think we don't know a lot about how all

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01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:05,160
Speaker 1: this all came to game. And as you know, the

1669
01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:07,680
Speaker 1: espionage game is a game of smoking mirrors, and so

1670
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:10,000
Speaker 1: we may not know the full story. And I think

1671
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:11,639
Speaker 1: we need to keep digging to get to the truth

1672
01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 1: of questions Like you just asked, So, would it would

1673
01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:17,439
Speaker 1: it be wise for President Trump to to resend that

1674
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:20,960
Speaker 1: change fourteen days out to Executive Order twelve three three three.

1675
01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:23,240
Speaker 1: Would it be wise of President Trump to get rid

1676
01:35:23,240 --> 01:35:26,559
Speaker 1: of Obama holdovers? Would it be wise to get to

1677
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:30,280
Speaker 1: the bottom of who's committing felonies and violating the the

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01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:33,720
Speaker 1: Espionage Act among other things? Yes, I think really, I

1679
01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:36,800
Speaker 1: think that's the most important things that they need to

1680
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:39,000
Speaker 1: start looking at. I mean, we one of the things

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01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:40,840
Speaker 1: that you brought up sean earlier, and I'm you know,

1682
01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:43,160
Speaker 1: and I think that it requires a lot more investigation.

1683
01:35:43,200 --> 01:35:45,840
Speaker 1: In John also touched on it as well, is that

1684
01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:47,519
Speaker 1: we need to go back and we need to look

1685
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:51,240
Speaker 1: and see who originally tipped off, what where did they

1686
01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:53,160
Speaker 1: get to tip off that there might have been something

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01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:55,080
Speaker 1: on the server. I think that will answer a lot

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Speaker 1: of questions. And I'm also in agreement with you that

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Speaker 1: it's something that needs to be investigated. Is when Obama

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Speaker 1: the issue this executive order was it to expand it

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Speaker 1: so that leaks, you know, would appear shortly afterwards, and

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01:36:07,479 --> 01:36:09,040
Speaker 1: that it would be difficult to find out who's the

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01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:12,360
Speaker 1: leaker was or were those people already leaking. That is

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Speaker 1: something we don't know right now. We're looking at it

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01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:17,600
Speaker 1: and we're investigating it. But you know, could this be

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Speaker 1: a ruse to expand the agencies so we can't copoint

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01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:26,320
Speaker 1: which agency leaked this or which person leaked this from

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Speaker 1: which agency. That's something that really needs to be looked

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Speaker 1: into as well. And I'm sure they're they're investigating this.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is something that the Inspector General is

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Speaker 1: going to be looking at at the d o J

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01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:38,559
Speaker 1: as well as others who are looking for the leaks

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Speaker 1: into this, uh, into this Russia hacking issue. Bill Benny

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01:36:42,360 --> 01:36:44,360
Speaker 1: was on this program. I'm not sure if you both

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01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:46,600
Speaker 1: are aware of him. Thirty two year Vet N S,

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01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:50,479
Speaker 1: a whistleblower, resigned because and he claimed right here on

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Speaker 1: this radio program this weekend on TV this week that

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Speaker 1: in fact, every email, every text message, every phone call

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Speaker 1: of every American citizen is being gathered and monitored and

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Speaker 1: put in the big made metadata storage units that the

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01:37:04,840 --> 01:37:08,679
Speaker 1: government has access to. Is that possible? Yes, in fact,

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Speaker 1: it is based on congressional testimony that that is what

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01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:13,280
Speaker 1: goes on. And then what happened, Well, that means by

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Speaker 1: the way that James Clapper committed perjury because he said

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01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:19,000
Speaker 1: it was not happening. Well, there's a difference between storing

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01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:20,880
Speaker 1: it and then accessing it and reviewing it. And what

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01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:22,920
Speaker 1: happens a lot of times in these vice A warrants

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01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:24,920
Speaker 1: is that data has been captured and its stored, no

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01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:26,960
Speaker 1: one's allowed to look at it. Then they go get

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01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:28,920
Speaker 1: permission from the court to go look at a period

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01:37:28,960 --> 01:37:31,400
Speaker 1: of time in the past where they weren't monitoring, but

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Speaker 1: it was captured by the n s A. And so

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Speaker 1: that's how the intelligence community since nine eleven has been

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01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:37,680
Speaker 1: able to solve a lot of crimes. Can we then

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01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:40,760
Speaker 1: say that Donald Trump with his tweet that remember the

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01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:44,240
Speaker 1: New York Times, all these major news organization, mainstream, not

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01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:48,080
Speaker 1: not conservative talk radio or the Fox News channel Hannity program,

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01:37:48,120 --> 01:37:51,320
Speaker 1: but when all of them reported wire tapping, those were there.

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01:37:51,439 --> 01:37:53,759
Speaker 1: That was the words used in the New York Times,

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01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:56,759
Speaker 1: not by and then it was reiterated by the president,

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01:37:56,920 --> 01:37:59,640
Speaker 1: but the president and principle, it turns out that he

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01:37:59,720 --> 01:38:04,200
Speaker 1: was that surveillance took place at Trump Tower, and it's

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01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:08,080
Speaker 1: very likely that many in the Obama administration, probably the

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01:38:08,120 --> 01:38:11,840
Speaker 1: President himself, knew that there was at least something some

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01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:15,240
Speaker 1: type of surveillance going on, and perhaps he thought it

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01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:17,439
Speaker 1: was wire tapping. Because the New York Times said, so

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01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:20,200
Speaker 1: when it turns out to be surveilling a server at

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Speaker 1: Trump Towers, that a fair statement. Yeah, I think that

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01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:25,080
Speaker 1: our reporting confirms that there was surveillance of a computer,

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01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:28,120
Speaker 1: uh inside the Trump Towers at the end of the election.

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt that is true. So you're confirming on Well,

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Speaker 1: I'd like to know what Obama knew when and and

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01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:35,680
Speaker 1: uh what did he know? And when did he know?

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01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:38,040
Speaker 1: What did Ben Rhodes and Valerie Jarrett and David axe

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01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:40,320
Speaker 1: Roud and Peiffer and wrote what do all these people know?

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01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:43,200
Speaker 1: And when did they know it? And did they did

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01:38:43,200 --> 01:38:45,360
Speaker 1: they share it with Hillary Clinton? Because a week before

1748
01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:48,080
Speaker 1: the election, Hillary Clinton suggested so much in a tweet.

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01:38:49,040 --> 01:38:52,080
Speaker 1: That's very true. I guess more than Hillary Clinton. We

1750
01:38:52,160 --> 01:38:55,640
Speaker 1: also saw that Harry Reid also suggested that in October

1751
01:38:55,760 --> 01:38:58,280
Speaker 1: that you're absolutely right. I mean, I guess Sean Hannon,

1752
01:38:58,320 --> 01:39:01,400
Speaker 1: he's not so paranoid. After all. I was right Obama

1753
01:39:01,479 --> 01:39:03,760
Speaker 1: was a horrible president. I was right that Trump could win,

1754
01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:06,639
Speaker 1: and I'm right that there's something really stink that's something

1755
01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:08,120
Speaker 1: that stinks to Hi. You have in here, do you

1756
01:39:08,160 --> 01:39:10,320
Speaker 1: agree with that there's a lot more stuff that needs

1757
01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:12,479
Speaker 1: to be done out before we know you. Guys, got

1758
01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:14,320
Speaker 1: to get working. You're not working hard enough. Go out

1759
01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:16,240
Speaker 1: and get me get more information for the country. Go

1760
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:21,320
Speaker 1: called President Obama. You won't take my call. And by

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01:39:21,320 --> 01:39:23,120
Speaker 1: the way, Solomon, why are you not coming on with

1762
01:39:23,120 --> 01:39:25,280
Speaker 1: Sarah on TV tonight? You need to come atually. I'm

1763
01:39:25,320 --> 01:39:27,920
Speaker 1: on the train. I'm gonna miss you there and get

1764
01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:30,160
Speaker 1: a later get a later train. What's the big deal?

1765
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:34,360
Speaker 1: Step up? Oh, he's putting you on the spot now, John, Hey, John,

1766
01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:37,320
Speaker 1: you gotta come on, step up, move you track? All right,

1767
01:39:37,400 --> 01:39:39,240
Speaker 1: let me see if I can move my train. All right,

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01:39:39,280 --> 01:39:41,000
Speaker 1: I'll pay that. I'll give you the twenty five bucks

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01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:43,799
Speaker 1: when you get here. All right, all right, thanks guys.

1770
01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:50,200
Speaker 1: Hannity's paying for interviews headline tomorrow. Still waiting to fly

1771
01:39:50,280 --> 01:39:54,880
Speaker 1: out all those lips you promised to leave if we're elected.

1772
01:39:55,520 --> 01:40:01,080
Speaker 1: The jet is ready. This is the Sean Hannity Show.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna wrap things up for today. Let

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Speaker 1: not your heart be troubled. Hannity on the Fox News Channel.

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01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:32,360
Speaker 1: That's coming up to eastern tonight. Okay, is there sabotage?

1776
01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:36,559
Speaker 1: We will break down the deep state, the shadow government

1777
01:40:36,720 --> 01:40:40,679
Speaker 1: and how Russia. There's zero proof, but the FISA court

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01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:43,800
Speaker 1: did issue a warrant a proof. We'll get reaction from

1779
01:40:43,800 --> 01:40:46,800
Speaker 1: Sarah Carter and John Solomon also knew. King Ridge weighs

1780
01:40:46,800 --> 01:40:49,080
Speaker 1: in on that the healthcare fiasco. The latest on the

1781
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Speaker 1: Wiki leaks dump. William Binny is gonna be with US

1782
01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:54,760
Speaker 1: Lieutenant Colonel Tony Shaffer tonight see back here to morrow

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Speaker 1: see tonight attempt l