1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: It's now time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with Blue, 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Joe Grande and Mark and Craig Wasserman, the Pot Brothers 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: at Law. We're the world's number one podcast for everything cannabis. 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one, the 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: world's number one source for everything cannabis. My name is Blue. 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: Alongside him is the world famous Pot Brothers at Law, 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: Mark and Craig Washerman and Mr Joe Grande and we 8 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: have a fantastic show for you guys today. And check 9 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: this out. 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I believe so there it 20 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: is and I'm Christopher Right one, Christopher right online, and 21 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: you can find Joe Grande at Joe Grande fifty two. 22 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: Now we have a fantastic show for you today, Craig, 23 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: you have some news for us. Yeah. The news is 24 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: where did you say he was going to get his 25 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: hemoroid checked out? And I can't. That is the big 26 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: news today, guys. That is the big news. Joe is 27 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: getting his uh his tainted tinster checked or something like 28 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: that taint checked? Is that what it's called a taint? 29 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: They're checking out his taint? Guys. I know you don't 30 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: want to hear about it too much, but it's gonna 31 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: be interesting to see. Now. I think he's with his 32 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: kids though from actually did say it was one of 33 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: the doctor Mark little brothers with his kids at uh 34 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: first day of school. Bullshit, I don't believe it. I 35 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: see his car in the parking lot and he's late. 36 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: I know we had to leave right around now. I 37 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: didn't realize it was it was so it was at 38 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: this time. Yeah, yeah, Blue, We've got some interesting news. 39 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: This is This is always a fun one and it's 40 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: kind of fun to talk about with you because we 41 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: usually get in into it the most that this guy. 42 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: His name is Tom Price. Tom Price, well maybe you do. 43 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: I think he's one of your friends. He was. He 44 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: was a political marijuana prohibitionist right out of Orange County. Okay, no, no, no, 45 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: this is even better. So Tom Price was a Georgia Republican, 46 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: well is a Georgia Republican who briefly served in Donald 47 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: Trump's administration. Is first Help Secretary. He actually lasted seven months. 48 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: Really doesn't matter here there, but he lasted seven months, 49 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: wasted taxpayer money about a million bucks dropping on jumping 50 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: on a private jets not that have taken instead of 51 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: taken uh you know, Jet Blue, and cost the taxpayers 52 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: a million bucks. But be that. As a mate. He 53 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: served in Cangress from Georgia's sixth district, which is very 54 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: very conservative. During his last twelve years on Capitol Hill, 55 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: he did nothing to support cannabis. Tom Price voted six 56 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: times to kill the critical budget amendment that protects medical 57 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: marijuana patients today today, the amendment to the budget bill 58 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: literally only protects medical marijuana patients, not really even adult use. 59 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: It protects it says the d o J cannot go 60 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: after people in states where they're legal, and at that 61 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: person is legal, then they can't spend any money on it. 62 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: This which was which was the original bill was our 63 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: was war Bocker Um. I can't remember the other guy's name, 64 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: but it was a war Boker amendment years ago that 65 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: this was on the amendment. This was on the budget 66 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: and it's been and it's lasted a long time. He 67 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: voted several times, six times to get rid of that 68 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: amendment so the Feds could go after medical marijuana state 69 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: license operations. Well, guess what, Blue, he's on the board 70 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: of another company. That's what he's doing. Now he's on 71 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: the board. He joined the board of Botanical Sciences LLLC, 72 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: a company new to the cannabis space but still in 73 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: the cannabis space, head of a chain was founded by 74 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: this guy named Robin Fowler, who heads the chain of 75 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: Georgia pain clinics as well. So now he's in the 76 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: cannabis business. And what's even worse, if you want to 77 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: call it worse, after he hopped aboard, right, this is 78 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: in Georgia, they only gave out six medical marijuana licenses 79 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: in the entire state. Guess what out of sixty three applicants, 80 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: guess who got one of the Coveted Licenses. Mr Tom Price, 81 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: Mr Yeah Active Botanical, which is he's now on the 82 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: board of Botanical. So I think cure Leaf actually even sued. 83 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what's going on with that that this was. 84 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 1: I mean, there's just no way there was more, and 85 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 1: this was a new company. A lot of these states 86 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: and a lot of cities are now asking in applications 87 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: do you have operations anywhere else? Anywhere else? And if 88 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: you have operations anywhere else, you're gonna have a step up, 89 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: which is making even harder for people trying to get 90 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: into the business to actually with no other legal businesses 91 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: under their bilt, to even get in the way. These 92 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: states and cities are doing this. So I just thought 93 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: that was you know, it was interesting, and you know 94 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: it's it's the guy who writes the letter is like 95 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: or the article on this. He made a good point. 96 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: It's nice to have an adversary now on your side. 97 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: That's a plus, right Blue Yeah, of course. But instead 98 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: of like you know me, I say, he shouldn't be 99 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: able to be in the business for five to ten years. 100 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: That's what I say. You know, you know, you know 101 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 1: what going well well, But the last thing I'll say, 102 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: is is all? I'll let you say whatever is that? 103 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: Don't you couldn't you agree that at least these guys 104 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: jumping ship would come out more publicly instead of getting 105 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: publicity for being on the board, they come out publicly 106 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: and say I was wrong. I was wrong. At least 107 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: at at least stand up my conserve, my my Republicans 108 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: now that are still against it and won't vote for it, 109 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: we should all change. This is ridiculous. I was wrong. 110 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: Shouldn't at least do that? You know, it's funny because 111 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: they maybe have and we just haven't heard it. He no, 112 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: he hasn't, No so so but but too though it's 113 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: Craig is I really want to think about it in 114 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: a sense like this is I do agree with you 115 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: that you know, all these people flip flopping, you know, 116 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: they have this um, you know, ability to come into 117 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: an industry that they've been prosecuting on and and getting 118 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: behind and shutting down and rah rah Ryan. They've been cheerleaders, 119 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: if you will, for the opponents side of cannabis. And 120 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: then now you know here here it comes to money 121 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: grab and they want to jump in. I don't be atonement. 122 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: There should be some atonement for there, right, I actually 123 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: do agree with you on this, you know, because you're right, 124 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: we don't agree on a lot of things, but this 125 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: one I do agree on. And and I'll tell you, 126 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: you know, it's sad that we have people that are 127 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,239 Speaker 1: in government. I don't even think people in government should 128 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: be able to be involved in the cannabis industry. I 129 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: mean it seems hedged. And and I say that because 130 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: there was a time where, you know, I was working 131 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: with Senator j Colani English out of Hawaii for a 132 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: company called Hawaii Medicinal Options, and we were going for 133 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: a license, and you know, I remember that, Yeah, and 134 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like, you know, I felt 135 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: like we were gonna win because we had Senator j. 136 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: Colani English. I ain't gonna lie. I felt like I 137 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: had something in my pocket that was just gonna rocket. 138 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: You know. But when you think back and you go, 139 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: you know, if we would have won, there probably would 140 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: have been huge, you know, articles out on us like this, 141 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: and and and would they just go away or do 142 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: they enhance and get the magnifying put on you, you know, 143 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: and and either way, my my thought process is, you know, 144 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,679 Speaker 1: after going through it myself with with you know, somebody 145 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: in Senate in the Senate office or whatever, and and 146 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: how was he. But but the difference there with you 147 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: Blue is I don't recall, but with that senator from Hawaii, 148 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: was he always pro or was he? Yeah? Well so yeah, 149 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: so Senator j. Colin English has been pro the whole time. 150 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: I mean, so he there's a big difference between that 151 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: with this situation. But you're right, just in general, someone 152 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 1: coming out of the government, they shouldn't come in coming 153 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: out of the government. Uh yeah, working in the government 154 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: and having the connections and who knows what they have 155 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 1: to be able to come in and potentially you know, 156 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: well that's why they you know, for us, that's when 157 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: we were, when we were you know, applying for this application, 158 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: was was the the real They didn't they were not 159 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: obligated to give you a reason why they didn't pick you. However, um, 160 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: some of us did get reasons. And our reason was 161 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: that you know, Senator J. Colani English was there and 162 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: that you know, if he had one, they felt that 163 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: there would have been an outcry from you know, city 164 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: and state saying that you know, you guys headed your bet. 165 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: You brought a senator on board. And and he he 166 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 1: pulled some strings and they didn't want to get into 167 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: any lawsuits down the road. And if we wanted to 168 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: reapply on the next one, um that they would consider 169 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: our application. Because but but for this being the first 170 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: time that Hawaii was coming into the cannabis industry, we 171 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: had also we had um, you know, people on the 172 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: board of advisors that were not from Hawaii, which they 173 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: were trying to get more people that were from Hawaii, 174 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: which makes sense, you know. And and again I think 175 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 1: that you know, uh, we had an all star cast. 176 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: We had a great, great team of people, and we 177 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: could have ran a very robust business and the cannabis industry. 178 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: But but there was there was again those questions, Hey 179 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: you got a senator on board, Hey you've got you know. 180 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: But but but on the flip side of that, we 181 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 1: were going up against um uh, Woody Woody Harrelson, Harrelson, 182 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: Chef Gordon, Chef Gordon. All the major names lost, all 183 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: the major names lost. But funny thing enough, though, the 184 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: one of the names that did win was an old 185 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: school family that was tied to the Mob, you know apparently, 186 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if it was the Mob 187 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 1: or not. But that's you know, the rumor said, that's 188 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: the problem with you know, we can even go into 189 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: that for a minute. Especially let's do that right after 190 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: this break, but before we do go to but before 191 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: we do go to break, I do I do want 192 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: to say one thing. Check this out, guys, The Counterculture 193 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: Convention C three in Houston, October nine and ten. 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Listen if 204 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: you want to chime in and you want to give 205 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: us your thoughts on on whether or not government officials 206 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: or politicians should be involved in cannabis after voting against 207 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: it and for so many years scrutinizing. They give us 208 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: a call on that number again in Spanish, Craig, oh 209 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: manto zetto zetto quantino do zetto zeo, and we do 210 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: have operators standard by guys. Check this out. You know, Craig, 211 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: you were about to say something that you know, and 212 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna it was a good segue because 213 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: we're talking about in was it for the state of 214 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: Hawaii they were given away six? Yeah, so it was 215 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: it six or you know, Tan, I'm not sure whatever 216 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: the number was. There was a limited number for the 217 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: entire state, right, yes, yes, So here in California it's 218 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: up to each city to have their own cannabis regulations, 219 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 1: which I like And well, no, you don't really morally 220 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: don't like it because we still have less than a 221 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: third of the state of the cities and the state 222 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: allow cannabis operations. Well, it's funny, it's it's funny to 223 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: say that. I I don't like the fact that they're 224 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: not moving forward. I do like the fact that the 225 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: city the opportunity for the city to go there. But 226 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: you no, this is the problem. No, let me this, 227 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: This was my segue. This was my segue into limiting 228 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: cannabis licenses, whether it's in the entire state, or whether 229 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: it's in a city that gets to regulate their own amount, 230 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: or whatever it should be. That's what leads to all 231 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: this corruption, is when they limit the number of applications 232 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: or the number of stores. It's still a fallacy. It's 233 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a fantasy that if you put 234 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 1: ten dispensaries, ten retail storefronts on one block, let's go further, 235 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: ten on each side of the block, right, that it's 236 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: gonna have some kind of a huge rising crime. Well, 237 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you know it's gonna I mean, 238 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, though, so the fact that they not 239 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: only limit the amount of stores, they limit how far 240 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: they have to be from each other. Those are just stupid, baseless, 241 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: dumb requirements. No, and let and listen, no, let let me, 242 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: let me let me take a second for to to 243 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: give you some some thought on it. Right, And I 244 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: agree with you, But I am also gonna say that 245 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: liquor stores cannot be within a certain range from each other, 246 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: Smoke shops cannot be within a I mean, and it's 247 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: a lot less than than than cannabis. But you know, 248 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: smoke shops have to be within seven feet or a 249 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: thousand feet from each other, right at least at least 250 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: a thousand But for Westminster, California, it's a thousand and 251 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: there's stupid rules. But you know, but in in l A, 252 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: it's not so big. I mean, there's there's liquor stores 253 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: on every corner and they don't. You know, it's a 254 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: lot less, right because I think they have more people, 255 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: uh in the in the you know, greater city area, 256 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: but facts it should. But here's the double edged sword 257 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: that I want to talk about for a second, is 258 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: that if it's free enterprise, and and I'm all for it, 259 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: you know, I say, hey, let's go to work, let's 260 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: get these out, and let's roll them out. Because if 261 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: it becomes free enterprise, and then it is going into Costco's, 262 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: it is going into Walmart, it is going to go 263 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: into every liquor store across the country because if it's 264 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: free enterprise, then they're all gonna they're all gonna move it, 265 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: just like tobacco. And I think it should just be 266 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: another product on the shelf because that's what it really is. 267 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: Do I agree with the fact that they rolled it 268 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: out wrong in the beginning, and now all these people 269 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: that own dispensaries is spent millions of dollars and some 270 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: of them taking millions of dollars and losses. You know, 271 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: uh that should they be punished for it? I don't. 272 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: I think there should be some kind of you know, 273 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not. I'm not saying they should be punished, 274 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: not saying anybody, but they essentially will be punished if 275 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: that happens. Why would they be punished if they run. 276 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: I'm not saying to make it cheaper for anybody. I'm 277 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: not saying to make it easier for anybody. I'm just 278 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: saying it shouldn't be limited if you can find a 279 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: spot in the zone, because cities are able to zone 280 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: where it needs to be and there's so many, you know, 281 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: let the property tell you how many how many you know, 282 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: businesses you can have if they pick an area commercial 283 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: bit area where this is where it's zoned and there's 284 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: a hunter commercial properties, let a hunter commercial cannabis people 285 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: apply if they can lock up that space, and whoever 286 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: is the best will survive. Period. It shouldn't be limited. 287 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: When you start limiting these that's when you get all 288 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: this corruption. We just had to and I think I 289 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: have that. You'll talk about that. But Craig again, if 290 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: they if they don't have you know, green zones or 291 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: regulated areas. No, I'm not saying they don't. I'm not 292 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: saying not to have that. I'm saying not to limit 293 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: the number of licenses that they give out in that city. 294 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: It should be limited only to how many people can 295 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: get a property in a zone away from whatever it's 296 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: supposed to be, away from the buffer zones. And if 297 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: there's a hundred of those properties, and you know, theoretically 298 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: and a hundred people lock up those properties and they 299 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: all submit good applications for whatever business they want to 300 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: be in, they should give out a hundred licenses. Well, 301 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: and I agree. I mean, listen, if you want to 302 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: open up a restaurant, you can open up a restaurant anywhere. 303 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: But but we're not talking about restaurant. We're talking about 304 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: you know, liquor tobacco. That's the problem. And we have 305 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: all these all the rules have been put in place, 306 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: especially the new cities coming online. And while we are 307 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: getting a good influx of new cities, a lot of 308 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: the the applications. I see they're limiting it to five destro, 309 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: five manufacturing, five cultivation, five storefronts. I mean, it's just 310 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 1: it's there's no logical reason to limit the number of 311 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: licenses a city gives that now. But I'm just saying, 312 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: but what about the people that that have that that 313 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: they have limited it to, right, and they feel like 314 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: they have this million dollar lottery ticket because they do, 315 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 1: because they're only the number one of six in the 316 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 1: in the city and they've got this license. And then 317 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: the city goes, you know what, We're just gonna open 318 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: it up for everybody, right, and then now they open 319 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: they Okay, that's that's all. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, no, 320 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: I get you, I get you. The ambulance is here. 321 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: But but but you know that's gonna be lawsuits, right? 322 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: Why their lawsuits? I mean they're you know what, they'll blue? 323 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: Why not you know, every every lawsuit that I have seen, 324 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: I think there may have been one or two, but 325 00:17:55,080 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 1: a majority of the lawsuits against the city's processes. When 326 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: people lose out when when there's winners and losers, not 327 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: how many properties are available, it's winners and losers. It's 328 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: like there's ten and there's a hundred people applying. There's 329 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: ten spots. There's lawsuits left and right. Nine times out 330 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 1: of ten those lawsuits fail, the government will put will 331 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: in l A. I was part of the l A 332 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: social licity process where people got in early in the 333 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 1: portal and and then that was shame on the city though, dude, dude, no, no, listen, 334 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: it's better than that. That didn't the the unit done 335 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: by the city came back and said it really didn't 336 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: change anything, period. And then there was a lawsuit and 337 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: the city decided to go, We're gonna give out a 338 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: hundred extra. And then so there was five hundred people. 339 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: The first hundred got it, so they gave it out 340 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: to another hundred. There was another lawsuit filed that one 341 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: got dismissed. It's I mean, let him sue. Did anybody way? 342 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: Did anybody win those lawsuits? Have you followed up on 343 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: them or is it just The only win that I'm 344 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: aware of was the one that was the initial lawsuit 345 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: where the city added I believe another hundred, um another 346 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:13,959 Speaker 1: hundred applications. Wow, you know, and and and here here's 347 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: a little to go from one hundred to two hundred. 348 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: You know, here here's a little thought for people. You know, again, 349 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: if you're out there you're looking to get your licensing, 350 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: you know, start dealing with your city. You know, a 351 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of people they think that, you know, 352 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: they're gonna start off with um, you know, going to 353 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: the state or you know, find out if this it 354 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: starts with the city. Well, you know what, Blue, I 355 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: think it would have starts with even first. And you know, 356 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: I hate to do it. I hate, no, no, I 357 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: hate to do a shameless plug. But you call eight 358 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: five five was law and what people should do? Did 359 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: you say, wass law eight five five loss law? And 360 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: find an attorney to have a consultate with. Yeah, and 361 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: and and you guys actually have a directory across the 362 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: country to help other people. And there's a lot of 363 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 1: attorneys that we we had this discussion today with a 364 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: new client that you know, we don't sugarcoat it, and 365 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: we tell you the good, the bad, the ugly and 366 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: if you want to go forward, to go forward knowing 367 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: full well what the system is like, how hard it is, 368 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: how expensive it is, and blah blah blah. When we 369 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: do have associates across the country that we've we've talked 370 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: to and make sure that they're similar to us and 371 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 1: don't bullshit call people back, pick up the phone, talk 372 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: to their clients. A lot of things that a lot 373 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: of people complain about lawyers that they don't call me back, 374 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: they won't take my call or whatever. We make sure 375 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: the opposite of that happens. But I mean, people really 376 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: should sit down and talk to somebody. I mean, and 377 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: and what should you go to? But listen, let's say 378 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: I'm I'm and playing Devil's advocate against my brothers here, 379 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: but you and they are the best attorneys in cannabis 380 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: in my opinion. But you know, should here's here's me 381 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: coming and playing Devil's advocate. I'm looking to move into Anaheim, California. 382 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: You know, do I go get an attorney near or 383 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: around Anaheim like the Pop brothers at law and say, hey, 384 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: I want to get a place in Anaheim, Or do 385 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: I just go to Anaheim and find out Anaheim doesn't 386 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: accept applications? You know? And that's why I say, like, dude, 387 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: go to your for me, go to your city, find 388 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: out what you can know. I mean, dude, we have availabilities, 389 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: right if I you know, What's funny is we tell 390 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: people when they come in to see us, you know, 391 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 1: for for the very very very reasonable consultation fee, that 392 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: we have these other you know, retainer plans certain levels, 393 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: lower levels, middle level, higher level, and like even on 394 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: the lowest level, we tell people most of the stuff 395 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: we do for you on the lowest level is anything 396 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: you can do yourself. You can google it. Yes, you 397 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: can find out now we've put together these massive lists 398 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: from googling it. But there is but there's okay, let 399 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: let's go. But you can do it yourself. Let's go 400 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 1: to a lot of this stuff people can do themselves. 401 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 1: What I meant, Bleu was you're exactly right. If you 402 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: want to get involved in the city, you go to 403 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 1: the city council. If if it if it's already banned, 404 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: and you want to get the city to do it. 405 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: That's still could be worth a consultation with an attorney 406 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: regarding how to go about talking to your council people 407 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 1: going to council, going to city council meetings, what to say, 408 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: what's gonna hit home? So its overall, if you find 409 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: a good, honest attorney who knows the cannabis space, it's 410 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: It's not a bad thing if you want to dip 411 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: your foot into it. Look, when we come back, I 412 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: want to talk about, you know, doing it yourself in 413 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: your cities. And guys, one last thing special, huge, huge, 414 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: huge announcement. Guys, the Counterculture Convention C three in Houston, 415 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 1: October ninth and tenth. That's going down at George Brown 416 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: Convention Center. It's Cannabis Talk one on one. Will be 417 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: right back. Take a hit, get lit, sit back and 418 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: enjoy Craig and Blue live on Cannabis Talk one on one. 419 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 1: Taking over the show, taking over the show. I'll tell 420 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: you it's been one of the best shows we've had 421 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: in a long time, you know what, Blue, Every time 422 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: that we have our own show, which is kind of 423 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: few and far between, it's the best. I think it's 424 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: way better than Joe over there with this. You know. Yeah, 425 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: that sounded just like it, you know. I'll tell you 426 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: what though, Man, before we went to break, I wanted 427 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: to just sit there and say, you know that that 428 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: you know, we we're talking about cities doing it yourself, 429 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 1: googling it. You know, I can agree, and I have 430 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: to agree because I had to do it myself too. 431 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: Right when I went out to try and get my 432 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: first dispensary and figure out all the laws. There was 433 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: no attorney that he could even help me. There was 434 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: no um, you know, blueprint or plan that could actually 435 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 1: drive me there. And there's still really isn't right because 436 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: every city, every county, every state is different. And not 437 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,959 Speaker 1: only are they different, they actually change their freaking laws 438 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: and they change their requirements and they change their security 439 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: and they change their this, and then that's every freaking 440 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: so often okay, and it sucks. But my thought behind 441 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: this is this, you can do it by yourself, but 442 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: you are going to pay for that. And and I 443 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: say that because you know, there's a point where you 444 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: go and you find a mentor, you go and you 445 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: pay an attorney. You go and some attorneys will you know, 446 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 1: bleed you dry before you get there. Which is you know, 447 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 1: and which is why I actually probably I'm partners with 448 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: the pot Brothers at law because when I met with them, 449 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: you know, out of all the people that were telling 450 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: me that all the wrong things to do, you know, 451 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 1: they just not only did they debunk it while I 452 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: was sitting there, they pulled out the freaking laws and 453 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,199 Speaker 1: they started highlighting them going read this line, read that 454 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 1: line to to kind of basically tell me that the 455 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 1: last attorney that I had already paid, you know, a 456 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: ten tho dollar retainer too, you know, was full of ship. 457 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 1: Yeah he was. He was just basically you know, you know, 458 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 1: you know, dunk taking me, you know, and and giving 459 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: me all the wrong advice. And so when I when 460 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: I met with the part brothers at law and I 461 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: sat with Mark and Craig, you know, it was just this, 462 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 1: you know, hey, this is what I'm doing, this is 463 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: what I'm trying to do, this is what I want 464 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: to do, and how do I get there? And this 465 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 1: is you know, I was ahead of a lot of people, 466 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: and I had a lot of things already in place 467 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: because I already paid to learn. But when I sat 468 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: with them, they were so organic and real with me, like, man, 469 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: do you do you really have the money? Are you 470 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: really about this life? Is this something you really want 471 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: to do? Because if it isn't run for the hills, 472 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: And I'm like, bro, this is the only life I know. 473 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: You know, it isn't no fucking hobby. This is you know, 474 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 1: this is a lifestyle. This is what I do, you know, 475 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: And so you know, when you start to to to 476 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: sit there and and yeah, because you gotta you gotta 477 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: find the guys who aren't you know, like these guy 478 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: had a couple in today and it's like, you know, 479 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 1: I'm letting you know the good, the bad, and the ugly. 480 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: You know, he was so excited. He wants to grow. 481 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: He's grown before. He loves growing. He's gonna anything to do. 482 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 1: He go, he wants to grow. And I love that. 483 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: I love that enthusiasm. But I said, this ain't your 484 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: father's grow. Yeah you're saying your father's be it. This 485 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 1: is you know, you you go from cash cow, your 486 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: father's buick too slim to bear margins. If you're running 487 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: the legit cannabis business. Yeah, and I go, but but 488 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: still but still there there's room to make money. There's 489 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 1: room to be the best. If you have the best weed, 490 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: you're always gonna sell it no matter what. I don't 491 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: care how many people are, how many grows there are, 492 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 1: and anywhere you make the best, you're gonna sell it. 493 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: And uh, I just make sure that you understand that 494 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: this isn't all funny games, isn't let's you know, because 495 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: I could have just probably signed them up in about 496 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 1: five minutes and said, let's start. You're excited, let's get going, 497 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 1: give me a retainer, and let's start good doing it. 498 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: As opposed to you assuring you know. An hour later, 499 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: it's like you come back and tell me you'll think 500 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: about it, you know, because you've got to know what 501 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: you're getting into. And I think that's why. And even 502 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: and in the past, but in the past years ago 503 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: was free consultations. Because of the regulations and all that ship, 504 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: we we couldn't do that anymore, and we had to 505 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: go to paid consultation for businesses. Criminals are still free consultations, 506 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: but businesses it's our consultation hour hour and a half. 507 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: But for our I Heart listeners and Instagram followers, we 508 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 1: cut it to seven fifty. And if you can afford 509 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 1: seven fifty, you shouldn't even be looking in this industry. 510 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: And that's how we kind of justified that. And and 511 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: how much more information there is to give now in 512 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: a consultation than there was back when you came in 513 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: Sauce Blue. It was way simpler and uh I was free. 514 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: Uh no, yours was back then. Back then, I still left, 515 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: Uh made you know, I made my decision right down 516 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: to the table, and I think I cut you guys 517 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: in five thousand dollar checked that day. I think you did. Yeah, 518 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: I didn't even think. I think, wait, no, I think 519 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: it was for ten. But he still always five. Yeah, right, 520 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: I paid you. I actually had to pay you the 521 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: other five even though we partnered up. That was the 522 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: worst part for me. I was like, dude, these guys 523 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: were partners and they're still making me pay the other five. 524 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: Damn it was for ten, but I paid five. And 525 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 1: then I well, that was the birth. That was that 526 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 1: was the that was the birth of Blue and Joe. Yeah, 527 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: I mean, Craig, that's a whole moment, Craig, you know. 528 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: But but again, Craig, I again, I just want people 529 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: to know, like you know it. Well, let me give 530 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: let's let me give this advice for a quick and 531 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: I know we're getting short on time, but it is 532 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: is no matter what states you're in, no matter what 533 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: country you're in, you know, do some of your own 534 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: googling if you do decide to see a lawyer. Obviously, 535 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: we have people literally across the country and the world. 536 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: Now it's it's insane. Um in what countries we actually 537 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: have other lawyers, but google that lawyer, check up on 538 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: that lawyer. If you're in the United States, go to 539 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: your your state's bar uh bar website. You can look 540 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: up attorney discipline, look people up, vet them out. Don't 541 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: just blindly go because there's so many that will just 542 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: bleed you. Take your money, and there's still a lot 543 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: of good ones out there, trust me, but you gotta 544 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: be careful and look out for yourself. So so so, 545 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: what I was gonna say is that most even with 546 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: with with or without the money, because I'm a firm believer, 547 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: without the money, you can make it. But most, no, 548 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: you can't. No, no you can't. Because I'm saying no, 549 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying if you physically don't have it, if you 550 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: have hold on, let me let me, let me land. 551 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: My plane is before if if yes, you can get it, 552 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: if you have the energy. You have to have the 553 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: energy in order to go through this. Most of these 554 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: casts don't have the energy. And this is what I mean. 555 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: You know, they come in, they're excited, and you know, 556 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: and I like to try and bottle that energy when 557 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: I see people and go, look, let's keep going boom. 558 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: I don't want to break their self esteem. Break their 559 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: heart break through this. I want to give them the 560 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: facts of what they're gonna go through and how difficult 561 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: it is. But I want to, you know, motivate those 562 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: because through that the you know, finding that energy and 563 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: finding that lightning and then capturing it, putting in the 564 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: bottle and allowing that bottle to be sold is priceless. 565 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: But in order to actually get there, you have to 566 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: have that freaking energy. And a lot of these people 567 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: they have the energy, they have the energy. They take 568 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: one hit, and everybody has a plan until they get punched. 569 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: They get punched, and then they go, oh my god, 570 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: and they just roll out and then they blame everybody. 571 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: They blame everybody but themselves and the one person I 572 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: would say that if you fail, you at any given time, 573 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: I don't want you to call me. I want you 574 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: to go in the mirror, look at yourself and tell 575 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: yourself why you failed. I don't care what I did 576 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: with you or how you did it. And and super 577 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: is super important to understand that because the industry itself 578 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: is not friendly, and not only this industry, but no industry, 579 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: what industry. You know, it's gonna just let you once 580 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,719 Speaker 1: in there and take it over by storm. It just 581 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: doesn't happen that way. You've got to put blood, sweat 582 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: and tears and and and that and and that's the 583 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: point that we make two people is if you want 584 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,479 Speaker 1: to get into the industry, absolutely great, I applaud you, 585 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: I'll support you. I'll do whatever I can. But it 586 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: ain't a cake walk. No, and and cake But not 587 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: not the cannabis industry, but any business, any entrepreneur, any 588 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: any startup company. You know, like, no, no that you know, 589 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: you're you're right blue overall, you're right. But because we're 590 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: on I hate to be a dick, but we're on 591 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: cannabis talk one on one someone talking about canabis and 592 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: cannabis businesses and how it it's those cannabis businesses are 593 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: even harder to start up that almost any other business 594 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: on planet Earth. Right now, in the state of California, 595 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: and many states and many many and many states are 596 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,959 Speaker 1: doing it fucked up with Chicago is all sucked up. 597 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: From what we understand, people are buying eighty dollar eight 598 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: well Oklahoma, you know, I I they they they're saturated. 599 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: But you know what, the survival of the fittest, the 600 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: cream rises to the top, right let the Oklahoma did 601 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: it right. I'm I'm a fan of what Oklahoma is doing. 602 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: I just I do think they are saturated. But but again, 603 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: I think if you come out there and you have 604 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: the guts, no glory. Yeah, and and I we had 605 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: a fantastic uh family coming here, the cooking company of 606 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: the Baker Grammar's Bakers, you know, and oh yes, I 607 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: remember them, beautiful family man. And and they just came 608 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: in here, and you know, they have so many products, 609 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,959 Speaker 1: they've got a thriving company, They've got hustlers in their family. 610 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: They're just hustling. They've got a hustle. They're kicking ass 611 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: and almost like, you know, how are you guys doing. 612 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: They're like, oh, we're one of the number one edibles 613 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: in the state. And it's like, yeah, I mean, I 614 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: think I think what you're saying is is right on point, 615 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: but it it belies everything else that if you you know, 616 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: when I tell them everything you gotta do, if you're 617 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: not a hustler, you're not gonna you're not gonna be 618 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: able to do it. Well, that's the thing. The bottom 619 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:13,959 Speaker 1: line is, you've got don't do it. If you if 620 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: you know you can't do this is I'm telling you 621 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: this how it's gonna be. Well, you gotta have that energy, 622 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: like I said, and and and your energy can't stop 623 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: when you take a little a little uh not even 624 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: a big blow. You know, people look at I took 625 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: a blow. It's like boom, you know. You take a 626 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: little hit and tell them to get out the ambulance. Yeah, 627 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: they start wamming, you know. And it's like, instead, why 628 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: don't you stand up and work double time and and 629 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: and utilize everything that you just learned and reach back 630 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: and and and double back and double down. No one's 631 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: gonna give it to you. You gotta go take it. Yeah, 632 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: and you're about to eat that mike to You can't 633 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: get if you don't take Yeah. Yeah, how did that 634 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: might taste right now? Is it? Actually? I got a 635 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: little close there? You're still getting close again. You're like 636 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: backing up, you know there? You keep better? Yeah, that's 637 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: way better. Like it sounds amazing. But listen you I 638 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: think that the moral of the story is is listen. 639 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: If you're getting into the cannabis industry, you know, um, 640 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: you know it's not it's some advice. Do some do 641 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: some on your own, get some advice, you know, but 642 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: you've gotta make sure that you invite you It's I mean, 643 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: that's where dovetails into. You know. You got you go 644 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: get some advice, listen to somebody. Um, if you're in 645 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: the state of California, we give consultations no matter where 646 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: you are in the state, and we'll tell you like 647 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: it is no bullshit. We have people outside the state. Um, 648 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,720 Speaker 1: but you got to do your research on your attorney 649 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 1: as well, because so many of them can just take 650 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: your money and then you're fucked. Yeah. Well there it is. 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