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Speaker 1: Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Orchard Park, New Airfield, the

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Speaker 1: Sports Training Center. Back on the MSG side, we appreciate

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Speaker 1: because these are guys on their roster who have proven

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Speaker 1: to be part of this culture. These are now guys

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Speaker 1: that have been through that that love fest they had

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Speaker 1: at the end of last year when they did make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs with an overachieving roster, where they got free

432
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Speaker 1: agents like Micah Hyde Jordan Poyer who came in and

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Speaker 1: made an enormous difference when They drafted great players like

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Speaker 1: Tredavious White to come in and transform the secondary with

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Speaker 1: four new faces, and all of a sudden, it's better

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Speaker 1: than a better secondary that we've seen at any point

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Speaker 1: in the past fifteen years. I mean, those are the

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Speaker 1: kind of bold moves they made. Are they done? And

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Speaker 1: if they are, who's gonna be and what asset, what

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Speaker 1: good player or draft pick is going to be? What

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Speaker 1: they get rid of to make that happen? Let us

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Speaker 1: don't you think we got phone lines open at eight

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Speaker 1: O three fifty and toll free one eight eight five

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. Is there another big splashy offseason

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Speaker 1: trade in the works for the Bills before this season begins?

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Speaker 1: Do you think so? Do you think not? We will

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Speaker 1: take all commers? Grim Reaper tweets in, Yes, there will be,

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Speaker 1: because it's the process. Okay. M Jordan tweets and I

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Speaker 1: could see Shack Lawson being traded. Seems like the Bills

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Speaker 1: are talking to him up a bit to raise his

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Speaker 1: trade value. The writing could be on the wall for

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Speaker 1: Lawson with the numerous defensive ends the Bills are brought in.

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Speaker 1: That's fair to say they are talking him up. They

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Speaker 1: talked about him a lot. Show McDermot talked about him

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Speaker 1: again today as a matter of fact, how much trade

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Speaker 1: value does Shack Lawson have? Yeah, that's debatable. I know

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Speaker 1: he's a former first round pick, but I don't think

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Speaker 1: he'd get much. And I still thinks he's got some skills,

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Speaker 1: And I still think because of his first two years

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Speaker 1: in the league and the injuries he faced and really,

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Speaker 1: and I've said this before it and it sounds uncomplimentary,

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Speaker 1: though the maturity issues maybe he had a couple of

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Speaker 1: years ago. I think this coaching staff acknowledges the athleticism,

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Speaker 1: knows what he did at Clemson, and thinks, well, let's

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Speaker 1: see what we got here. Let's see we can get

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Speaker 1: out of him. You know, we're we're not going to

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Speaker 1: get a lot on the trade. We have him here,

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Speaker 1: we have him on a contract we can we can handle.

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Speaker 1: Let's see what we really have here in Shack Lawson.

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Speaker 1: I believe that's their mindset about losson right now. They're

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Speaker 1: not committed to him on the roster yet, but I

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Speaker 1: also think they're committed to look, taking as long a

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Speaker 1: look as they can. Knowing that he was a first

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Speaker 1: round pick and knowing there were reasons why he was

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Speaker 1: a first round pick a couple of years ago. And

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Speaker 1: let me let me just back up and head off

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Speaker 1: one of the arguments that we always hear in the

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Speaker 1: last eighteen months with Shack Lawson. It's not gonna matter

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Speaker 1: one bit to Sean McDermott or Brandon Bean that Shack

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Speaker 1: Lawson was a first round pick of the former general manager.

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Speaker 1: It's not that absolutely does not weigh into any of

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Speaker 1: the conversation. It is positively or negatively. It is all

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Speaker 1: about what that guy does. That's the process, and that's

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Speaker 1: the accountability that I think this culture calls for. You

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Speaker 1: can't just hold something against a guy that's not his fault.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it's not it's not his fault. And because they

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Speaker 1: didn't hold it against Kyle Williams, they don't hold against anybody.

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Speaker 1: If if Shack Lawson is the kind of player they want,

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Speaker 1: there's no reason to think that any just nobody else

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Speaker 1: could see the kind of player they want or wouldn't

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Speaker 1: want the kind of player they want. Of course, there's

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Speaker 1: gonna be guys like that on the roster, wouldn't they

493
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Speaker 1: arrive here? Guys they really like, guys they want to

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Speaker 1: succeed guys, they have every reason to hope that succeed.

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Speaker 1: And I think Shack Lawson is one of those guys

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Speaker 1: because of his physical abilities and because of the fact

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Speaker 1: that he has become a part of the culture that

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Speaker 1: they have, you know, sought so hard to establish. So

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Speaker 1: if if if all of that is the case, now, certainly,

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Speaker 1: you know, if if Lawson doesn't live up to his expectations,

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Speaker 1: if he's not the kind of doesn't give them the

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Speaker 1: kind of production they want, certainly they'll they'll get rid

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Speaker 1: of him. But not nothing other than than the kind

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Speaker 1: of person and the kind of player he is. Has

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Speaker 1: nothing to do with how long he's been here or

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Speaker 1: who drafted it. No, I mean, they're not out to

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Speaker 1: settle scores. The only reason I bring that is because

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Speaker 1: everybody says that all particularly guys in the media, they're

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Speaker 1: always about this, all he was drafted by the other

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Speaker 1: GM and if he seeds, they're gonna look bad. But

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Speaker 1: to me, that means crazy. He doesn't get the benefit

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Speaker 1: of the doubt, the fact that he was drafted by

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Speaker 1: the other regime, right, he doesn't get There's nobody left

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Speaker 1: here who says, well, we can't cut Shack Lawson because

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Speaker 1: we drafted him number one. Nobody here has that feeling. No,

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Speaker 1: I would maintain benefit. I'd maintained this though. He gets

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Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt that every veteran player that

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Speaker 1: we chose last year gets. He was on our team

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Speaker 1: last year, we made the playoffs. Last year, he played

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Speaker 1: well for us for sixteen game or however long he

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Speaker 1: played last year. He everybody on that roster last year

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Speaker 1: has proven something to this coaching staff. They know them,

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Speaker 1: so they get the benefit of the doubt of the

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Speaker 1: work they have already put in on this team. So

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Speaker 1: there is that. He doesn't get an extra from being

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Speaker 1: a first round draft pick before that, But last year

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Speaker 1: earned him some veteran points when he got to What

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Speaker 1: he got was an opportunity to display I believe his

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Speaker 1: athleticism and his willingness to work. Now he has ways

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Speaker 1: to go in terms of productivity and in terms of

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Speaker 1: just staying out the field. Availability is number one for

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Speaker 1: Shack Robson right. But I do think he got some

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Speaker 1: points last year by showing how verse non a versaal,

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Speaker 1: how athletic he is. You know he can be a player.

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Speaker 1: And there's and there's other people too that are chiming

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Speaker 1: down on the other side of the corn from Chris,

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Speaker 1: he says, no big contracts to move or players who

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Speaker 1: don't fit the culture. Expect nothing this offseason but a

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Speaker 1: lot of free agency grabs in twenty nineteen to surround

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Speaker 1: Alan Wood. He's pointing towards the cap space that the

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Speaker 1: Bills have positioned themselves to have in the next offseason.

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Speaker 1: And that may be right, uh, and that may give

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Speaker 1: the Bills pause in making any splashy trades like that,

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Speaker 1: given what's on the horizon for their salary cap. Twitter

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Speaker 1: Paul is close, which is good. Will the Bills make

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Speaker 1: another splashy offseason trade? What do you think? Phone lines

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Speaker 1: open two eight oh three five fifty and toll free

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Mark

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Speaker 1: on the line from Tanawan to go ahead. Mark, Hello,

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, thanks for having me on Sure. I'm just

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Speaker 1: I'm making the points to We just talked about la

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Speaker 1: Sean McCoy um. I see him. You know at the

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Speaker 1: game last night was Tyron Taylor and you know their

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Speaker 1: point their friends and this question is more for Steve.

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Speaker 1: You know, were they in Cleveland? Didn't know that? Were

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Speaker 1: they at the game? In Cleveland. Yeah, they were at

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Speaker 1: the game of courtsight seats. Oh wow, how did I

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Speaker 1: miss that? You know, it's pretty cool, But I just

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Speaker 1: want to know how bought in a guy like McCoy

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Speaker 1: at the end of his career. Um, you know he's

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Speaker 1: pushing for ten thousand yards? Is he still wanting to rebuild? Like?

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Speaker 1: How bought in is he? And maybe he's asking being

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Speaker 1: in McDermott, you know, kind of in a not in

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Speaker 1: a bad way, but like I want to move on,

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Speaker 1: no hard feelings, but I want to be with a

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Speaker 1: contender right now. There's no evidence of that. I don't

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Speaker 1: think what you're saying, Mark, there's no evidence. He's never

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Speaker 1: expressed that publicly. Number one, number two, Um, you know

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Speaker 1: he can the ten thousand is a big motivation for him.

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Speaker 1: He can get that here. I think he sees he's

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Speaker 1: had success running the football here, So there's no evidence

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Speaker 1: of that. It could happen, I guess. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: he's been here quite a bit for the voluntary workouts,

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Speaker 1: which goes a lot more beyond anything he could say

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Speaker 1: at this point. I think I think I don't think

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Speaker 1: the players see this as a continued rebuild. I think

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Speaker 1: last year was the rebuild and they got to the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I think they feel like this is going to be

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Speaker 1: a big step forward here. I think if you're a player,

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Speaker 1: you've got to feel that you've gotta feel like you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get better this year, particularly in the passing game.

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Speaker 1: And there's no doubt Leshaun McCoy, if you if you

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Speaker 1: do think that he's about a ten thousand yard career,

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Speaker 1: if he's about getting to that threshold, if he's about

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Speaker 1: doing some individual things in his career to help his

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Speaker 1: case for Canton, Ohio, which is a legitimate concern for

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Speaker 1: a guy of his stature, this is the spot for him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy who knows he's the

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Speaker 1: best player on the offense. He's the best option. He's

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Speaker 1: the guy that they're gonna make sure gets enough opportunities

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Speaker 1: to touch the football to help this team win games

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Speaker 1: and get back to the playoffs. So I don't think

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Speaker 1: Leshan McCoy is looking at himself going this is not

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Speaker 1: my best spot where I'm going to succeed personally. Now,

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Speaker 1: if he's into winning a Super Bowl, ring, where do

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Speaker 1: you think they're gonna you know, where do you think

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Speaker 1: he's gonna ask to be traded. I mean, because that's

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Speaker 1: a crapshoot as well. I mean you're gonna I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's been guys time, year after year, back in the past.

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Speaker 1: You go back all the way to Dion Sanders, Bruce

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Speaker 1: Smith and all those guys going to the Washington Redskins

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Speaker 1: thinking they're going to get a championship. At the end,

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Speaker 1: you can think all these guys that have gone to

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Speaker 1: New England, and some of them have done it and

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Speaker 1: some of them have not. Who else you're gonna go

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Speaker 1: to Philly? You're gonna try and parachute into Philadelphia. You

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Speaker 1: think Lashnoy's gonna be asked to go back to Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: to join that group. I just don't see it. This

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Speaker 1: is this is a place where Lashawn personally, I think

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Speaker 1: for his own statistical record, this is his spot is

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Speaker 1: the he is the lead dog on this offense, he's

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Speaker 1: the best option. So I don't think he would be

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Speaker 1: express any discontent about the way this is. By the way,

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Speaker 1: you look at for twelve the Colors said ten. He's

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Speaker 1: look at for twelve thousand, and he's made that his goal,

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Speaker 1: having passed ten thousand last year. So he does have

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Speaker 1: a chance to do it and a chance to do

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Speaker 1: it here. And that's a big number, and I think

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Speaker 1: within reach. Yeah, and again I will repeat the fact

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Speaker 1: that he's been here so often for these voluntary workouts.

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Speaker 1: To me, goes a long way towards um expressing what

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Speaker 1: he thinks about what he can do here, what he

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Speaker 1: wants to do here. It goes much beyond anything that

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Speaker 1: he or anybody else could say about his goals. All right,

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Speaker 1: what do you think? Will the Bills make another splashy

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Speaker 1: offseason move trade? Perhaps give us a call, let us

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Speaker 1: know what you think. Eight oh three five fifty and

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Speaker 1: twelve three one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: Team is out on the practice field right now for

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Speaker 1: organized team activity. It is Ota number nine of ten.

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Speaker 1: With the mandatory mini camp next week and for another

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Speaker 1: day and maybe for the foreseeable future. It's still third

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Speaker 1: team reps for quarterback johns All on the rookie first

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Speaker 1: round pick. We'll hear from Seohn McDermot about that when

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Speaker 1: we come back. It is One Bills Live from One

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Speaker 1: Pro Sports Training Center. I got a lot to talk

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Speaker 1: about today, and this just crossed our desk. This just

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Speaker 1: happened a minute ago, like five ten minutes ago. We're

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Speaker 1: both aghast. Terrell Owens former Buffalo Bill Terrell Owens, he

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Speaker 1: was voted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame this year.

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Speaker 1: How about this? He has declined the invitation to intend

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Speaker 1: the attend the induction ceremony this summer. His quote, I

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Speaker 1: had made the decision to publicly decline my invitation to

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Speaker 1: attend the induction ceremony in Canton. After visiting Canton earlier

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Speaker 1: this year, I came to the realization that I wished

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Speaker 1: to celebrate what will be the most memorable days of

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Speaker 1: my life elsewhere. Owens said he's told the Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame about this. He'll announced later when and where he

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Speaker 1: will celebrate his induction. He's been a finalist for three years.

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Speaker 1: He whined about getting elected to the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: He finally got elected, deserving because of his numbers, But

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Speaker 1: he had been a hot button candidate because of some

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Speaker 1: of the off field stuff. And now he says he's

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Speaker 1: not going to the celebration in July, or it'll be August, right,

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Speaker 1: first week to August, kidding me, you tell me, I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you what. The phone lines are gonna be burning

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Speaker 1: up with the guys who voted in cant and all

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Speaker 1: the voters who did not vote for him and got

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Speaker 1: vilified because they because of the kind of person Terrell

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Speaker 1: Owens has a reputation of being. And now they're gonna

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Speaker 1: call all those other people up and say I told

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Speaker 1: you so. I mean why, And here's the obvious thing.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna celebrate his induction in a later date celebration.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna celebrate his own induction at a later date. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he'll announce it at a later date. And he's gonna

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Speaker 1: and it'll be much like Baker Mayfield did with his

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Speaker 1: draft party on the draft a month and a half ago. Um,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna trademarket and he's gonna sell commercials to it.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna sell signage, he's gonna he's gonna make money

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Speaker 1: off It's what's all. That's what he's gonna do. And

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Speaker 1: and what a train wreck, terrible and I feel. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know who is in I obviously nobody is

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Speaker 1: in his life that have enough sway over him, that

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Speaker 1: can that can relate to him how much center how Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what it looks like to people outside of his circle

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Speaker 1: that he has absolutely no sense of self, and how

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be perceived because of all this. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: get crushed for it. Now. They're gonna be the guys that, hey,

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Speaker 1: it's every it's his right to do it. He can

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Speaker 1: do that, it's his induction. But you know what, at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, there are some things you

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Speaker 1: do because, yeah, because it's tradition, because it's how about

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Speaker 1: the right thing to do, the right thing to do.

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Speaker 1: Virtually everybody who gets elected to the Pro Football Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame, when they are inducted nig on that stage

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Speaker 1: at the stadium in Canton, at some point they say,

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Speaker 1: I am so happy to be among the greats who

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Speaker 1: being enshrined in this Hall of Fame all of the

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Speaker 1: players who preceded me. Tera Lownes is putting himself apart

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Speaker 1: from that group, right, He's saying, No, that group that's

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Speaker 1: already in the Hall of Fame, including this year's class.

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Speaker 1: I'm different than you. I guess I'm better than you

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Speaker 1: because I have my own enshrineman ceremony and celebrate. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he has separated himself from the greats of the game.

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Speaker 1: Number one, number two. I can't help but think about

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Speaker 1: all of the Pro Football Hall of Famers who never

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Speaker 1: made it to that induction, Guys inducted posthumously, who would

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Speaker 1: have who would have given anything to be around when

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Speaker 1: they went in the Pro Football Hall of Fame to

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Speaker 1: stand on that stage, make that speech, probably too long

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Speaker 1: a speech, and uh accept the congratulations of all the

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Speaker 1: other Hall of famers. Tera Owens walks away from that

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Speaker 1: to have his own Hall of Fame celebration. Who is he?

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Speaker 1: Where is he? What is he thinking? What is he doing? Well,

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Speaker 1: here's the thing. First of all, who's gonna go to

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Speaker 1: his Hall of Fame? Here's the lesson. Well, the friends

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Speaker 1: and family would be it. Here's the lesson. Wherever you go,

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Speaker 1: whatever you do, whatever your job is, your career path,

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Speaker 1: whatever wherever the life takes you, and every step along

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Speaker 1: the way, from the time you're a young person until

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Speaker 1: the time you're very old, the kind of person you

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Speaker 1: are matters. How you treat other people matters every day,

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Speaker 1: whether it's a stranger on the street or whether it's

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Speaker 1: somebody who's known you your entire life, how you treat

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Speaker 1: them matters, because when you get to a point in

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Speaker 1: your life where you do do something worthy of accolades,

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Speaker 1: you want to share it with those people. And I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be And I'll tell you what you think the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills are the organizations stand in line to be

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Speaker 1: the organization that goes into Canton and throws a party

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Speaker 1: for Terrell Owens. You think the Niners are standing in

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Speaker 1: line for that the way he left that organization, or

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Speaker 1: Dallas standing in line for that? What organization is doing?

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Speaker 1: The way he left those organizations and all the things

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Speaker 1: that happened to him as a result of those that

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Speaker 1: he was only in Buffalo for one year, for six months,

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Speaker 1: and to look back on it now and to see

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Speaker 1: wherever those relationships are for all those people, and to

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Speaker 1: have him make this decision, yeah, it has all come around.

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Speaker 1: It has all come around. And this is a situation

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Speaker 1: he's in where he's going to try and monetize the

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Speaker 1: greatest honor that the sport who promoted him to a

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Speaker 1: point of notoriety in his life. He's gonna try and

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Speaker 1: monetize it on his own. That's your assumption. You think

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Speaker 1: that's how it's going to go, That is my assumption. Yes,

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Speaker 1: because he said I wish to celebrate what will be

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Speaker 1: one of the most memorable days of my life elsewhere.

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Speaker 1: In a later day, I will announce where and when

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Speaker 1: I will celebrate my induction. You're probably right. I just

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Speaker 1: want to point out that hasn't been established yet, that

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Speaker 1: we'll wait for the announcement. I think you're probably right,

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Speaker 1: wait for the announced. Terrible. I'm embarrassed that he spent

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Speaker 1: one year in Buffalo right now, I really am. I'm

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Speaker 1: embarrassed that he was on the Buffalo Bill's roster. There's

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Speaker 1: no precedent for this. Has anybody ever done this for

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Speaker 1: any Hall of fame anywhere? No, thanks you guys, go

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Speaker 1: ahead and induct By the way, what are they going

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Speaker 1: to do with him now? On induction? You know, persona

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Speaker 1: non grata. They do they have to announce it. Even then, Cam, well,

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Speaker 1: then I'm sure they'll announce it. But what do they do?

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Speaker 1: What do they do? What is the Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: due with an induction ceremony? Where the inductee does not

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Speaker 1: want to show up. There's no precedent for this. It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: It's disrespectful, dismissive. It shows no regard for the gravity

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Speaker 1: of what that position means to everybody else except him.

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Speaker 1: It's um it's bewildering, and it's also sad that nobody

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Speaker 1: in the guy's life hasn't didn't give him the tap

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Speaker 1: on the shoulder and say no, no no, no, let's not

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Speaker 1: do that. Listen, that's not a good idea. And I

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Speaker 1: don't see how. I don't know what point of view

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Speaker 1: you can take where this would be a good idea.

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Speaker 1: It's a terrible idea. It's an insult. August fourth is

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Speaker 1: the day when the class of twenty eighteen goes in.

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Speaker 1: Great names. Bobby Bethard, one of the all time great

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Speaker 1: Challenge talk about those guys, talk about the rest class.

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Speaker 1: Robert Brazil, great Oilers linebacker, Brian Dawkins, the safety for

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Speaker 1: the Eagles. Jerry Kramer, who waited all these years, still alive.

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Speaker 1: Jerry Kramer. You know him, you ever meet him? I

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Speaker 1: met him. Great guy once, briefly. Great guy. Jerry Kramer

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Speaker 1: going in the Hall of Fame. Ray lewis one of

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Speaker 1: the Alzheimer's Randy Moss, Brian Urlacker, and Terall Owens declines

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Speaker 1: the invitation. He will not be there for the Pro

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Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame induction ceremony on August fourth. I am,

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Speaker 1: it is stunning, absolutely stunning. It is. You know, I've

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Speaker 1: never really defended Terrell, but people who when his name

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Speaker 1: was up for inclusion in the Hall of Fame for

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Speaker 1: a couple of years now, and it was always like, well,

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Speaker 1: t o was this? He was a me guy, He

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Speaker 1: wasn't a great teammate, and I would always say, well,

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Speaker 1: he you know, he wasn't arrested, really, he was never

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Speaker 1: really in trouble with the law, didn't break a lot

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Speaker 1: of laws. He was certainly out for number one. But

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Speaker 1: this puts it over the top. This is this is

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Speaker 1: one of the worst things I've ever heard. Honestly, is

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame your your induction ceremony is for those others,

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Speaker 1: not for me. I will celebrate what will be one

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Speaker 1: of the most memorable days of my life. Elsewhere, Are

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Speaker 1: we overreacting? I don't think, I am. We might be,

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Speaker 1: but still terrible. We might be. But You've always been

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Speaker 1: the voice of reason and you're upset, So I'm upset.

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Speaker 1: I'm always been a fly off the handle guy, so

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Speaker 1: I'm upset about this. Yeah, if you have thoughts on that,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about it. Tera Owen's telling the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: You know what, go ahead and do it without me.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna celebrate. I'm gonna celebrate someplace else. Give us

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Speaker 1: a call. Eight oh three five fifty two three one

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty bills continue

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Speaker 1: to practice. Sean McDermott met with the media today. What

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Speaker 1: do you think of this? Steve? A couple of you

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Speaker 1: were there? Three or maybe three and a half four

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Speaker 1: questions for Sean McDermott about Josh Allen's status still with

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Speaker 1: the number three's Will that change soon? Is this an

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Speaker 1: issue yet? Is it a media issue? Is it a

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Speaker 1: phony issue? The fact that it's mccaron and Peterman getting

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Speaker 1: the first and second team reps and now three third

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Speaker 1: week into OTA's with the mandatory miniicamp next week, no

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Speaker 1: first team rep chet for Josh Allen. What do you think?

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Speaker 1: I think it's it's not a big deal. No, and

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Speaker 1: we you know, let's let's be real. We we thought

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Speaker 1: about making the Twitter poll and letting people ask it,

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Speaker 1: but I kind of extenate it, said, listen, he the only,

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Speaker 1: the only answer to Josh Allen moving up the depth

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Speaker 1: chart as quarterback of the Buffalo Bills is this. He'll

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Speaker 1: do it. When he earns it. That's it. He'll get it.

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Speaker 1: He'll move up the depth chart. And when he earns

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Speaker 1: a spot on the depth Chartum, he's a first year player,

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Speaker 1: just drafted, certainly has all the physical ability in the world.

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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you this, and you're talking about a plan,

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Speaker 1: and I told you this, and you it's cold shouldered

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Speaker 1: me when I told you, here's the thing. He'll get ready,

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Speaker 1: here's the thing the plan is, he said, what's what's

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Speaker 1: their plan with him? Are they gonna put him in? Listen,

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Speaker 1: here's the plan. They're gonna give him the starting job

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Speaker 1: as soon as he earns it. They're gonna give him

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Speaker 1: the second string job as soon as he earns it.

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Speaker 1: Right now, all he is is a third string quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And when he earns the second string, he'll be the

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Speaker 1: second string. When he earns the starting job, he'll be

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Speaker 1: the starter. That's the plan. And here's what the plan is.

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Speaker 1: Also to let his talents get him there. Here comes

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Speaker 1: the cold shoulder. And I don't mean to be the

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Speaker 1: cold shoulders guy here, but here it is. Yes, I agree,

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Speaker 1: that's the only answer that Sean McDermot can't come up

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Speaker 1: we should come up with. Today when he put it

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Speaker 1: in the back of his mind quietly, he Brandon Bean

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Speaker 1: and the decision makers got to have in the back

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Speaker 1: of their mind, we'd really like to have Josh get

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Speaker 1: this amount of snaps. Would like to see how what

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Speaker 1: he looks like with the ones or the twos. Maybe

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Speaker 1: we get into training camp. I know in the back

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Speaker 1: I'm certain in the back of their mind there's gonna

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Speaker 1: come a day a week when they say, let's move

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Speaker 1: Josh up. See how he does with the with the

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Speaker 1: next group. Regardless of what he says to the media today, No,

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Speaker 1: is that cold shoulder? Is that the cold shoulder? They're

850
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: gonna let kid come along? Why would they even? Why

851
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: would they needs pick overall? Because they've got tremendous amount

852
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: of equity're getting. Yeah, but you're putting the court the

853
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: horse ahead of the car or the cart ahead of

854
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 1: the course of course, Yeah, say that for me, Just

855
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: say that the cart ahead of the horse. There you

856
00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: go there, and here's why they drafted the kid. Because

857
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: he's physically better and mentally better than everybody else. That's

858
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: why he played quarterback. Let us let his talent take

859
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: him where he's gonna go to the level he's gonna

860
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: play at. If he's gonna be the starter, let him

861
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: earn it. He'll get there. Let him distrust what he

862
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: can do, trust the fact that you're that being a

863
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: football player means you rise to the top when you're

864
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: the best. Let me be clear, it doesn't have to

865
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: happen today, didn't actually in the brief amount we saw

866
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: at OTAs, doesn't happen, have to happen tomorrow, doesn't have

867
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: to happen next week at the mandatory mini camp. But

868
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: at some point in training camp, I would think they're

869
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: gonna want to see how he looks with ones and twos.

870
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: You disagree, They would like to, Yeah, And they can

871
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,959
Speaker 1: make it happen without putting him at number one. Ones

872
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: and twos move they They don't have to. They don't

873
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: have to say, Okay, now Josh Allen is the number

874
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: two quarterback this week or today, he's gonna take He

875
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 1: doesn't have to say that. They won't say anything. They

876
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:56,720
Speaker 1: have to do anything. You know what they have to do,

877
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: do it Let him in there. Just throw him in

878
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: there for a couple of reps. That's all they have

879
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: to do. Or you never know what happens when Aj

880
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: gets the flu for three days, let him take red

881
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: for a j That's yeah. They don't have to make

882
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 1: that designation at all. They'll let things, Let things happen

883
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: as they're going to happen. Just let it be organic.

884
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: It will happen now how football works. It'll be a

885
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: plan too. But here's what McDermott says, as soon as

886
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: you start listen, as soon as you start manipulating the process,

887
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: that's called coaching, No, you're you're no. When you warp

888
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: the process, the process isn't the process anymore. You can't,

889
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 1: you can't shortcut it. Let it happen. It'll work better

890
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: when it does. Here's what McDermott said today. Sean McDermott

891
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: quarterback rotation. Josh Allen with the threes today and Sean

892
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 1: was asked before practice, does it stay the same with

893
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: the Alan with the threes mccaren and Peterman one and two?

894
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: Is Alan in line for first team reps next week

895
00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: at mini camp. Here's what Sean said. Yeah, we'll just see.

896
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: It's a fluid, you know, situation. It's all part of

897
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 1: doing what's best A for our football team and B

898
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: for Josh's development overall. So I'm not gonna say I'm

899
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: not gonna do it. Uh, it's just what's what's the

900
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: right thing to do at the right time based on

901
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: our plan. So, um, but overall, AJ and Natal will

902
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: run with the ones and Josh the threes. It's early

903
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: in our process here and we just got to we've

904
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: got a plan. We've got to stick with. It doesn't

905
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: mean we don't listen and keep our ear to the

906
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: ground and our eyes peeled for what's going on, um

907
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: and adjust accordingly. That's what that's that's important, UM. But

908
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: an important part right now is we develop a good foundation.

909
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: And that's what we're doing. Son mcderman. He did say

910
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: we have a plan. Oh yeah, and I think, uh eventually,

911
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: and believe me, I'm not I don't care if Josh

912
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: Allen gets repped with threes twos ones today, this week,

913
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 1: next week, early in training camp, but at some point

914
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: they will. Here's I believe that's the plan I believe. Well,

915
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: here's the I think the plan is this they want

916
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: to take. They've got a plan and a vision for

917
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: how his development. But it development is only as fast

918
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: as Josh is able to develop. It's only his progress.

919
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: It's not they're coaching, it's not it's how fast he

920
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: picks everything up, how well he throws it, all of

921
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: the stuff that goes into evaluating a young quarterback. When

922
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 1: he reaches certain levels and milestones, they'll give him more,

923
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: they'll move him up, they'll give him more reps, they'll

924
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: put him with the twos instead of the threes. They'll

925
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 1: do all of that. But here's the thing. You've got

926
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: to be patient because when you start moving him from

927
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: three to two, before he's ready to go to two,

928
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: before he's reached those milestones, before he's gotten certain things

929
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: mastered in the offense, well, then then you get to

930
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: a point where, well, now we're taking step backwards. Now

931
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: we've got to go back and put him back at

932
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: the threes, or we got we gotta hinder the development

933
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: of all other twenty two guys that are the twos

934
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 1: and threes, because now we're waiting on Josh to develop,

935
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: because we didn't wait on him to defend to master

936
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 1: the stuff as a number three before we moved into

937
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: number two. So when he does that, when he masters

938
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 1: the number three stuff and he moves to the number two,

939
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: they don't have to move back everybody else, so they

940
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: can pick up what he missed as a number three

941
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: because they moved him along too fast. I hope that's clear.

942
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: It's clear, and I agree with that. I think we're

943
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 1: we agree more on this than we are demonstrating to

944
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: each other. Cold shoulder, What does that mean? Cold shoulder?

945
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: You poop pooed? My thing about poop pooh? What did

946
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: I say? Whatever? My point was that was so eloquently

947
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: made cold shoulder or poop poos that they're gonna give

948
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: it to him when he earns it. Here's a fan

949
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: a thing. You don't just work it through the plan.

950
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: This earning number two going to number one from number

951
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: three isn't isn't about a label. It's about what you're

952
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: worthy of. Yeah, he's got he's got to prove himself

953
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: worthy of all the steps between those a little ones

954
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: as well as the big ones. Those are just signposts

955
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 1: along a road. They're not they're not stop signs or

956
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 1: any of that stuff. We're gonna take a break. We're

957
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: gonna get your phone calls. Whether it's about Tera loans

958
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: and his ridiculous decision to tell the Pro Football Hall

959
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: of Fame, go ahead and have your deal. I'll have mine.

960
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 1: I just can't get over that or about the Bills.

961
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: Give us a call. Eight oh three oh five fifty

962
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 1: to three one eight eight eight five fifty two five

963
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: fifty One Bill's Live, presented by Kalid to Health. We're

964
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: live at One Bills Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome

965
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: back One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive, John Murphy's

966
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: team tasker in our one Buffalo studio, and we've got

967
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: a couple of things to talk about the Bills in

968
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: the OTAs, and we're gonna get WYF Teller in here.

969
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,919
Speaker 1: You're going out after prec win Press. After this quick segment,

970
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna head out. I'm gonna get a couple of

971
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: live shots with a couple of go for it. We'll

972
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: listen to him a little later. I'll get him a love.

973
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if we'll do it live on the

974
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: air or I'll record him. We'll show him after I

975
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: get back to the studio. But I'll be out of

976
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: the suit studio for maybe fifteen to twenty minutes, and

977
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: you'll have Wyatt Teller in here sitting next to you,

978
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: and it'll it'll be all be be good. We got

979
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: a lot going on, a lot of moving parts here

980
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: going on. T O T thing. The TEO thing is unbelievable, man.

981
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: So if you just tuned in, Terrell Owens has told

982
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame that, while he's appreciative of the opportunity,

983
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: he will publicly decline his invitation to attend the induction ceremony.

984
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: He wants to celebrate what will be one of the

985
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: most memorable days of his life elsewhere. At a later

986
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: date he will announce where and when he will celebrate

987
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 1: his induction. Does he have something else? Is he sick?

988
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,280
Speaker 1: Is there some compelling reasons? And so he should announce

989
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: that honestly or wait until he's ready to announce it.

990
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: We're getting tweets, We're geting some feedback, like talking about me,

991
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: I was the way I reacted. You're certainly the most overreacting.

992
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 1: Listen back, you just said some things. I bet you

993
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: wish you hadn't. I don't know what they are, but

994
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 1: you can remind me of that. You have no idea

995
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: what could possibly going on in his life, meaning Terrell Owens,

996
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: why so judgmental question? There could very well be a

997
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: solid reason he's not sharing. I think I think you're wrong.

998
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: There is absolutely no solid reason he could not be

999
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: sharing when he announces he's not going to attend his

1000
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: induction into the Pro Football Hall of Fame that he's

1001
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 1: known about for six months. Absolutely positively no solid reason

1002
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: he could possibly come up with that he's not going

1003
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: to be there that he would not share he should.

1004
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it is nothing. It's a stee People go

1005
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: up there, Inductees go up there, make their speech, get

1006
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: their honors, while they're sick, or while they've had recent tragedy,

1007
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: or if they can barely walk up on stage. You know,

1008
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 1: a few years ago there was a gentleman that from

1009
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: the old time Minnesota Vikings and hum his friend Mick

1010
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: Tinglehoff and fran Tarkington stood beside him and delivered his

1011
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: speech between because Mick Tingelhoff wasn't physically capable of doing it.

1012
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 1: He stood there beside him while one of his teammates was,

1013
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: you're telling me there's a more solid reason than for

1014
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: that than Terrello that Terrell Owens has that he's not

1015
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 1: going to be there. I don't I don't believe that.

1016
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: I don't believe it's true. I don't believe it's true.

1017
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: I think given his track record, he hasn't earned the

1018
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt to think there's some family. What

1019
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 1: has he got a barbecue on August fourth that he

1020
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 1: doesn't want to miss? Is there a Hammer reunion that

1021
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: wouldn't couldn't take place in Canton, Ohio? Is he sick?

1022
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: Is he is? That? It is? He is something happening

1023
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: and he can't share. I mean, that may be a reason,

1024
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: I'll listen to. You should announce that now. But why

1025
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: would he be celebrating it at a different time? And

1026
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: why would he not? Yeah, here's a call on this

1027
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: issue from Brad in Rochester. Go ahead, Brad, you're on

1028
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 1: the air with us. Yeah, guys, Hi Brad, Yeah, Fred,

1029
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: Fred Sorry, Fred? Yeah, Hey, thanks for taking my call.

1030
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: Jack Steve always a good show. Um Slow and who cares? We?

1031
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 1: I mean, who cares? Hi? Should? I don't care? Teess

1032
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: Yesterday's news, all right, he's yesterday's news. He's just trying

1033
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: to friend. I cared to this extent. I cared to

1034
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: this extent. There are other Hall of Famers going in

1035
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: that same day, August fourth. I think rall Ohens cheapens

1036
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: the whole process, attempts to anyway. There are hundreds of

1037
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: Hall of Famers who have made it there to be

1038
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: honored and make their speech, to accept the congratulations of

1039
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 1: other Hall of Famers, and I think it's I think

1040
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,959
Speaker 1: it's disrespectful to the Pro Football Hall of Famer those

1041
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 1: most of you, those are the Hall of Famers. That's

1042
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: why I care. I don't care about tarall Owens. I

1043
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,879
Speaker 1: care that this is a back of the hand disrespect

1044
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 1: move to the Pro Football Hall of Fame and all

1045
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: those great Hall of Famers. That's why I yeah, I agree,

1046
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: I agree one hundred percent with what you said. But

1047
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: you know what, I still maintain, I don't care. The

1048
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,919
Speaker 1: time will come, and I think Steve might be able

1049
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: to just say something about this. The time will come

1050
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: when he will regret what he's doing today, ten years, twelve,

1051
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: two years, whatever it is. I'll bet you right now,

1052
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: I'll put one hundred dollars in effect that he will

1053
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: regret it. Send one hundred dollars in an unmarked envelope

1054
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 1: to us, I don't. I hope he regrets it today. Hey,

1055
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: I hope he regrets it tomorrow. Steve Right, And you've

1056
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Speaker 1: got close personal friends who are pro football Hall of famers.

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00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,240
Speaker 1: I was a teammate of Robert Brazil his last training

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00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: camp that he did not make that maybe he did

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00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: make that a man, I don't think he made the

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00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: team nineteen eighty five with the Houston Oilers. I was

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00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: on the team with him. I had conversations with him

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00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: as a young rookie player, him being an older veteran

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00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: at that time, as a Hall of Famer. He was

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00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer. You know, a teammate of mine,

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00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: Bobby Bethard, I had rubbed up against him a number

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00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,240
Speaker 1: of times when he was ahead. It was the general

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00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 1: manager of the San Diego Chargers just after my career

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00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 1: into early in my career. Now, a lot of these guys,

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00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's crazy to have a guy like

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00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: Terrell Owen's doing what he's doing in regards to their

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Speaker 1: career and how their induction is going to be perceived.

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Speaker 1: It's it's just sad. It's so sad. A breakcare We're

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00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 1: back with more One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive

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Speaker 1: and this is Buffalo Bills Radio. Hello, Bills Radio Network

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00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 1: Sports Update, the update from One Bill's Drive, where the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills are coming off the field as we speak,

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Speaker 1: after nine number nine of their Organized Team Activity practices.

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00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 1: They've got one more OTA coming up tomorrow and then

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Speaker 1: the Bills start their mandatory minicamp next Tuesday, three days

1080
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 1: next week. For the mandatory minicamp, the quarterback rotation stays

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00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: the same for the Bills. According to head coach Sean McDermot.

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00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: Today he's got the A J. McCarron and Nathan Peterman

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00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 1: working with ones and twos. Rookie Josh Allen with third

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00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: team reps back on the field tomorrow for another OTA

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Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills. Former Bills wide receiver Terrell Owens

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00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 1: creates a big splash this He announced today he will

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Speaker 1: not attend the Pro Football Hall of Fame induction ceremony

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00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: in Canton on August fourth. He says he wants to

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Speaker 1: celebrate what will be one of the most memorable days

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Speaker 1: of his life elsewhere. At a later date, Owens will

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00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: announce where and when he will celebrate his induction that

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00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 1: after a couple of years of Owens complaining about not

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00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 1: being elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame, he

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00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: won't even be there on August fourth, when the rest

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00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,919
Speaker 1: of the Hall of Famers go in. Miami Dolphins, giving

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00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 1: their players a break from mandatory minicamp, the team today

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00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: canceled it's finally final mini camp practice. Dolphins wrap up

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00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: pre training camp work next week with OTA's June eleventh

1099
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: through June fourteenth, Baltimore Ravens have been forced to cancel

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00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: their final OTA practices and the organization and head coach

1101
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: John Harbaugh have been fined after the team was found

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00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: to have violated CBA rules governing contact and offseason workouts.

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00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 1: It's the second time in three years the Ravens have

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00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: found to be in violation of offseason workout rules. They

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00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: forfeited three OTA practices a couple of years ago. Stanley

1106
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,720
Speaker 1: Cup Hockey, Washington Capitals can win their first Stanley Cup tonight.

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Speaker 1: They're in Las Vegas to play the Vegas Golden Nights

1108
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 1: eight o'clock faceoff in Game five to Caps lead the

1109
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 1: series three games to one. In the NBA playoffs, Kevin

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00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: Durant was on fire last night, forty three points for

1111
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: the Golden State Warriors, who pulled down thirteen rebounds and

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00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: had seven assists as Golden State beat Cleveland one ten

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Speaker 1: to one O two. The State takes the commanding three

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00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 1: games and one edge in the NBA playoffs, And Brian

1115
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: Colangelo resigned today as president of the Philadelphia seventy six

1116
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: ers after that Twitter scandal from last week. That is

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00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: the update from One Bill's Drive. John Murfy's Steve Tasker

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00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 1: still whether Steve is outside in the in the at

1119
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: Pro Sports Training Center as he gets set to do

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Speaker 1: some interviews after practice. Whyatt Tyler getting set to join

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Speaker 1: us here in studio as well. In the meantime, we

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Speaker 1: can revisit the Twitter poll. Take your phone calls lines

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Speaker 1: open eight oh three h five fifty the number two

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Speaker 1: call toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two

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Speaker 1: five fifty our Twitter poll. It's pretty simple. It's a

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Speaker 1: simple question for you. Wonder if you think about this

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00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: at all, do you anticipate do you expect another big

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Speaker 1: splashy offseason trade for the Buffalo Bills. They've made him

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00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: last year, the first year of McDermott and Bean. Do

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00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: you think that friend will continue big trades before the

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00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 1: start of the season. Right now, with close to a

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Speaker 1: thousand votes in fifty one percent of you say yes

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00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 1: it will forty nine percent. I know you do not

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00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: anticipate that to continue. Give us a call, let us

1135
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,240
Speaker 1: know what you think. Love to talk to you about

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Speaker 1: it eight h three oh five fifty and toll free

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Some

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Speaker 1: tweets on this from the tweet sheet More offseason big

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00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: trades for the Bills. Steve Williams tweets and yes, more

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00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: trades will be made in anticipation of contracts coming up

1141
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: and the need for more toughness in their beat up

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00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 1: offensive line. Charles Clay maybe a target, possibly Jerry Hughes

1143
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: if he does not show a lot better from last year,

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00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 1: and Kirk Gregory tweets in I'm saying no because many

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00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 1: of this year's assets dealt were players taken by a

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00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 1: previous administration. Wide receiver is a big concern for me

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00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: as a Bills fan living in Charlotte and watching the

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Speaker 1: Panthers pattern through the Bean McDermott era. Wide receiver is

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00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 1: never a major focus and Kelvin Benjamin is a bill. Well, yeah,

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00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: wide receiver is a focus for me as well. I

1151
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: think you watch I get it, you know, you watch

1152
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: the Panthers through the Bean McDermott era, except was it

1153
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: really their era in Charlotte. Sean McDermott is the defensive coordinator.

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00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 1: You would think he had absolutely nothing to do with

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00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: the potential wide receivers they had there. Brandon Bean was

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00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 1: an assistant in the personnel department, not the general manager.

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00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: So I wouldn't look to that as a clue of

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00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: what they think they If you believe the wide receivers

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00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 1: never a major focus in Carolina, I don't know that

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00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: that would really translate to what the bills are up to.

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00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,959
Speaker 1: The bills up to OTA's and getting through the ninth

1162
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: of ten OTAs. Sean McDermott talked to the media before

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00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 1: practice today and he was asked not just about Josh

1164
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: Allen and how many reps he's getting, who's getting reps with,

1165
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,280
Speaker 1: but he was asked about Trema Edmands as well, Buffalo's

1166
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: other first round draft pick, the rookie linebacker from Virginia Tech.

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00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,879
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott talking about Trainia Edmond says he's doing pretty well,

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Speaker 1: adjusting just like many of the other first year players

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Speaker 1: on the Buffalo roster. I think he's adjusting like the

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Speaker 1: rest of our rookies. He's embraced that growth mindset, adjusting

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00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: to life on the field, adjusting naturally to life off

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00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: the field as well. Um, you know, trying to just

1173
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: simply trying to find a place to live and all

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00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: those things that, um, we take for granted, Um that

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00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 1: these are still young men that are trying to uh

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00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 1: navigate life as as young rookies in the NFL. UM,

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Speaker 1: And there's things that go on outside of the or

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00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: off the field that they need to be able to

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00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: check the box as well. So, um, he's done a

1180
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: good job to this point, like many of our rookies,

1181
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: and excited about the future for for all of them. Really, Um,

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00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 1: you know, the thing that stands out most with Tremaine

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00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 1: is his his approach, is his serious, serious approach to

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00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: the game. He's a student of the game and passionate

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00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: about about the game. So those are those are good

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00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: qualities early on here, sure trying did you get that

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00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: sense as you maybe meeting with him or or studying

1188
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: him people that draft, Well, we did to a point

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00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: you never really know to what extent until you until

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00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: you get the player in the building and you're around

1191
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: them one day after another day where you're stacking days

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00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: on top of days. So you know, it's it's a

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00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 1: little bit m unique, I would say, to some extent,

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00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: maybe for a twenty year old, But when you go

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00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: back to his roots and you get to know his

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00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: family a little bit, and when he comes from how

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00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: he was raised, it doesn't really surprise you overall. John

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Speaker 1: McDermott on Tremine Edmonds, I guess, good response, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't you know, we know one thing about John

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00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 1: McDermott after more than a year in the job, now

1201
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: he's not gonna overly praise many of his players that

1202
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: he's not gonna certainly critique them publicly. And that's what

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00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: he had to say about Tremaine and coming along just

1204
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: like the rest of the linebackers. But they seem to

1205
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: like what they get. He's certainly unlike the other first

1206
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: round here, Tremaine Edmonds has been plugged right into the

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00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 1: mix as a as a starter, and you know, and

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Speaker 1: there it goes. I'd look for big things from him.

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Speaker 1: We'll take your phone calls at eight oh three five

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Speaker 1: fifty and toll free one eight five fifty two five

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Speaker 1: fifty Mike and Spring go Mike, go ahead. You're on

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Speaker 1: the air. Hey, thank you guys for taking my call.

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Speaker 1: I've been listening to your comments and I have to

1214
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 1: say I wholeheartedly agree with both of you. And I

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00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 1: started thinking a little bit during your break prior to that. John,

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Speaker 1: you said that it's not about t o, it's about

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Speaker 1: respect for the National Football League and the Hall of Fame,

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00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 1: And again I wholeheartedly agree with you. I kind of

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00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: like to take a liberty and draw a parallel between

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00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: that and the other controversial issue in the NFL right now,

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00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: with the national anthem. I'm a veteran and I've always

1222
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: held the same stance that Kaepernick and all these people

1223
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: who choose the protest. I agree with the First Amendment

1224
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: right too, but it's not about them. It's about the

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00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: United States and what we stand for and the people

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00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 1: who suffered to make this the country that it is. Okay,

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00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 1: I understand that I don't even call it a national

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00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: anthem protest because it's not a protest about the anthem

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00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 1: or the flag. It's a protest about certain societal conditions

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00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: in America. They do have the First Amendment right to

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00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 1: do that, and it happens at that point because that's

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01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 1: when it's right before the game. That's when everybody is

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01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 1: standing in attention. That's that's when they do it. Um,

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Speaker 1: I don't see a real connection with Tara Owens. I

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01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 1: don't see any connection at all, really, Tarall Owens, I think,

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Speaker 1: as to repeat, and you said you agree with this,

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Speaker 1: I think, to me, not just showing respect for the

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01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 1: it's not even about the TEO not showing respect for

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01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame. It's to me, it's

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01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: him not yourn respect for the other Hall of Famers,

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01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: the others in the class of twenty eighteen and the

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01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 1: hundreds who have come before him, who we're all fine

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01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 1: with going to the induction ceremonies in Canton and standing

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01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,439
Speaker 1: either on the steps of the Hall of Fame years

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01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 1: ago or on this stadium and on that stage and

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01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 1: Tom Benson Stadium on you know what is terribly long

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01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: and sometimes taxing night. Still it's that's what you do

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Speaker 1: when you're in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. That's

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01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 1: what everybody has done until now, and for TiO to

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01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: separate himself for that. I think it shows incredible amount

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01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 1: of self centered posture that I guess we've always known

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01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 1: that he has, but it's just a little stunning that

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01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 1: he's taken it to that extent in this case, especially

1254
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: a guy who looked like he was dying to be

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01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 1: in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Here's a call

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01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:14,439
Speaker 1: from Scott in Tonawana. Hello, Scott, you're on the air. Hey,

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Speaker 1: thanks for taking the call. Sure, first time it's ever,

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01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 1: first time it's ever happened that football players never attended

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01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Then the committee should make it

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01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 1: the first time ever. We send the vote and give

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Speaker 1: him off so we don't need a ten. Yeah. I

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01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 1: don't know if that there's you know, there's certainly no

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01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 1: precedent for that. I don't know if there's even a

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Speaker 1: way to do that, But I do think that if

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Speaker 1: I were if I had a Hall of Fame vote,

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Speaker 1: and if I had voted for t O, I would

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Speaker 1: think about that, Hey, can I take my vote away now?

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Speaker 1: Since he's doing this, I would think that more than

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Speaker 1: one Hall of Fame voter would feel that way. Steve

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Speaker 1: Tasker was just out talking with Bills players as they

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Speaker 1: came off the field talking with one of them in

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Speaker 1: particulars getting a lot of attention lately former first round

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Speaker 1: draft pick Shack Lawson. Here's Steve with defensive end Shack Lawson.

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Speaker 1: Shack talked us a little bitout, what's your mindset coming

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Speaker 1: into this this training camp and how's it different from

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Speaker 1: the first couple of training camps you've been through. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's way different from the very first one

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Speaker 1: because I didn't tend training camp. But the third year

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Speaker 1: of just trying to stay healthy and take care of

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Speaker 1: my body everywhere anyway I can do um and just

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Speaker 1: my focus different, my mentally different, how I come in

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Speaker 1: every day and approach work. So let's coming in every day,

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Speaker 1: get better and develop as a pass rusher. What's the

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Speaker 1: next thing on your list? I mean, you've really evolved

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Speaker 1: over the course of your first couple of years. You're

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Speaker 1: in a different spot mentally. How did you approach this offseason?

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Speaker 1: Come into this season and you know what was really

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Speaker 1: the impetus of you making that change. I'm just I

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Speaker 1: was just looking back on a lot of things. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I had a lot of stuff in influence my life.

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Speaker 1: People close to me pass away, so I had to

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Speaker 1: look back to that and and I would just realize,

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Speaker 1: it's my time to do what they dropped me for. Oh,

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Speaker 1: they dropped me first round a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 1: so it's my job. This was time to step up

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Speaker 1: and be that guy and be the first round guy

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Speaker 1: they drove me to be. So tell you or even

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Speaker 1: vigorate you come in here ready. It must feel really

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Speaker 1: good to get back on the field then and start

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Speaker 1: making strides towards Its exactly what you were talking about.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so it felt great to be out here,

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Speaker 1: especially like a time like this OTAs do you learn

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01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 1: a lie you're going through the technique, get to know

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01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:22,479
Speaker 1: your teammates and things like that. So it's always great

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01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 1: to be back on the failed around this time before

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01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 1: we go off on another break again, building team chemistry

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01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 1: and bonding and things like that. So now too, this

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Speaker 1: is also a thing he had working for. Is your

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Speaker 1: second year in this defense and this is a four three.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of exactly what you're kind of your wheelhouse

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01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 1: skill set is in. Right. Do you feel really good

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Speaker 1: going on your second lap in this defensive scheme? Oh? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I feel I felt great about the defense. It's abstuly

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Speaker 1: more of a review now, I mean I absolutely know

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01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 1: the defense more better what everybody else doing and things

1316
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 1: like that while we're running this plays and things like that.

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01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 1: So with the second year under my belt, that it

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01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 1: made him much easier on this playbook and things like that.

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Speaker 1: So now that you're a veteran, let me ask you

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Speaker 1: you saw this defense last year, how good could this

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01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 1: group be this year compared to last year? Oh, this

1322
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 1: group can be special. And a lot of guys dropped

1323
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Speaker 1: into a couple of defensive guys. So Harry, Um, we

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01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 1: got the Termaine linebackers, so add knows miss missing pieces

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01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 1: that we needed to make this defense a lot better

1326
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 1: and things like that. Shack Laws and congratulations and good

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01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 1: luck this year. Man, have a great one. Yeah, sir,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for having me. Steve Tasker with

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Speaker 1: Shack Laws. And Steve Tasker is right here, just in

1330
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Speaker 1: from doing that interview moments ago with Shack Lawson. Um,

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01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 1: he looks different than he did for a couple of years.

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Speaker 1: He looks leaner and uh much more in condition, and

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01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 1: he sounds different. Steve. I'm telling you, I have a

1334
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 1: feeling maturity is a big issue with this guy. And

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Speaker 1: it really I think he's come around in the last

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Speaker 1: couple of years when he is understandable tragedy his life,

1337
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Speaker 1: lost him family member, and uh it kind of may

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Speaker 1: you know, made him sit I think all of us

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01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 1: can relate to a fact where you get to a

1340
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Speaker 1: point where you're sad and mourn a loss in your

1341
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 1: life and he sit down and take stock. And I

1342
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Speaker 1: think he did that. I think it's been evident in

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01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: the way he's come back and in the kind of

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01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 1: shape he's come back in an attitude that he acknowledged

1345
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 1: when in the interview, and um, I'm excited for you

1346
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 1: know it's you kind of I've always been one of

1347
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 1: those guys. I cheer four guys, not against him, you know,

1348
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 1: I may if I don't cheer for you, that's like

1349
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 1: rooting against you, almost, But I cheer for everybody, and

1350
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 1: Shack Lawson is one of those guys. And I, um,

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01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 1: you want to see these guys have success because they

1352
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 1: you know, they're they're real human beings, they have a

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01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 1: real goal in life, and and their teammates love them too.

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01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 1: So I'm pulling for the guy. What can you say?

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01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you church him the best? Well, see how

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Speaker 1: it goes. Why Tylor gonna be with us coming up next,

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01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 1: Buffalo's fifth round draft pick this year from Virginia Tech,

1358
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 1: the offensive lineman. It'll be in studio with us when

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Speaker 1: we return. As the Bills come off the practice field

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01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 1: after another uh work out of OTAs Wyatt Teyler coming

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01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 1: up next, John Murphy Steve Tasker back at the moment,

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. Welcome back to the show, John Murphy, Steve Tasker,

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live, ot A number nine in the books,

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Speaker 1: OTA number ten tomorrow. Then the mandatory minicamp next weekend.

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Speaker 1: Is the Bills come off the field, we get a

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Speaker 1: chance to talk to some of them, including our next guest,

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Speaker 1: Rookie Wyatt Teller, offensive linement from Virginia Tech, Buffalo's fifth

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Speaker 1: round draft pick. A couple of months ago. Whyatt, thanks

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Speaker 1: you coming on. We hedge on the phone. Did we think,

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Speaker 1: oh no, I didn't live any talking on the field

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Speaker 1: first day Rookie Mini caam, Yeah, yeah it was. It

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01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 1: was a little bit ago, but uh, you know it

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01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 1: seems like a lifetime. It goes like eighteen days exactly. Yeah,

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01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 1: but uh, you know, it kind of goes by by

1376
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 1: quick when you're when you got something to do all day. Yeah,

1377
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 1: talk to us a little bit about how it's going.

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Speaker 1: I mean, are you working. You're working at your guard

1379
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 1: obviously you're been working at center guard, both guards or

1380
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Speaker 1: both you know, mainly both guards. Um, you know, trying

1381
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 1: to compete. Uh, you're trying to you know, bring along

1382
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 1: myself as long as the other guys. You know. Um,

1383
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 1: you know, coach has been awesome. You know we've been

1384
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 1: getting playing of work and uh, you know, getting better

1385
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 1: every day. It's harder now because in this environment than

1386
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 1: it was in the ancient days when I play, because

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01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 1: you really, your job is about pushing guys against their

1388
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 1: will and being physical and you're you're leaning on bodies

1389
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 1: hard and you're coming off and trying to be explosively violent.

1390
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 1: Really in a quick, small area. You can't do any

1391
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 1: of that in these right. I mean, that's like they

1392
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 1: take the whole thing away from it. So what do

1393
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 1: you guys do? Just dance? I mean you just like

1394
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 1: I mean it's in placement. Placement is like like choreography, Yeah,

1395
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 1: it really is. Um, you know, we go full speed

1396
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 1: and you know, once you get to contact, you know,

1397
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 1: you kind of relax a little bit and bring it

1398
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 1: back and uh, you know, um, the first thing you

1399
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 1: got to learn is how to be a pro. You know,

1400
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 1: how to play and not you know, not injure guys

1401
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 1: who are you know, trying to do the same thing

1402
01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 1: as you. So, yeah, you don't want to injure somebody's

1403
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 1: you love and respect exactly exactly who do you look

1404
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 1: to for accuses? How do be pro? Anybody? Any other

1405
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 1: you're looking you know Ryan, you know Russ, Uh, you

1406
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 1: know they're they're great, Um, Ryan, Groy, Russ Rodin, Yeah, yeah,

1407
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 1: both great guys. Um you know John and uh Vlad

1408
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 1: you know they're to Cassie and you know Millard they're Millard, Yeah,

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01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 1: they're They're amazing. So you know, I'm I'm learning from them.

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01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 1: You know, they're they've been uh great helpers and uh

1411
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 1: technique and fundamentals and you know, just the mindset to have.

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01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 1: Are the fundamentals way different at this level than they

1413
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Speaker 1: are at the at the I would say that at

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Speaker 1: the college level it's it's a lot of the same,

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Speaker 1: but the importance of it is just you know, AMPI FI.

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01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 1: Obviously you're going against the best athletes in the uh

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01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 1: in the world, you know, not just not just in

1418
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Speaker 1: the state, or you know who got recruited and stuff

1419
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 1: like that, and you know, um, it really is you know,

1420
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta play well, you gotta play hard.

1421
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 1: That's one of the most surprising things for most young

1422
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 1: guys is the fact that it's it's you know, your

1423
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 1: size and your abilities and your athleticism get you in

1424
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 1: the door, but what makes you the best is your

1425
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 1: ability to beat him technically. Yeah, I know, And you

1426
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 1: know some of those stats about how like you know,

1427
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 1: a bunch of the guys in the NFL, in the

1428
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 1: Super Bowl or you know, three stars. You know, it

1429
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:12,680
Speaker 1: shows you that how hard you're willing to work. You know,

1430
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Speaker 1: like you said, you know you could be six five,

1431
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 1: you know, a stud and monster it. But uh, if

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01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 1: you're not willing to work harder than you know, the

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Speaker 1: rest doesn't mean anything. You're finishing up tomorrow, three weeks

1434
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Speaker 1: of OTAs and like Steve said, no contact here. But

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01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 1: I wonder do you see things from the guys on

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01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 1: the opposite side of the ball, whether it's Lotulala or

1437
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Speaker 1: Kyle Williams or Harrison Phillips or whomever, Dolphins Wahington. Do

1438
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 1: you see things that let you think, WHOA, people are

1439
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 1: quicker here or people have different techniques? Yea, what do

1440
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 1: you want? Day one? You know, you realize how fast

1441
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 1: these guys are, and you know, getting ready to getting

1442
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 1: ready for the speed. That's why I said, you know,

1443
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 1: the technique and fund of meals are only amplified. You

1444
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 1: know when you when you're first in college, you know

1445
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 1: it's it's important. You know, it's it's something you stress.

1446
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 1: But here, if you don't do it, you know, you're

1447
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 1: out the door. It's it's as simple a stud in college.

1448
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Speaker 1: When you went to Tech, and you grew up in

1449
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 1: northern Virginia, so that was right down the road essentially. Yeah, yeah,

1450
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 1: about three hours hours my hometown. Okay, you also played

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01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 1: defensive line, right, Yeah, it was actually you know that

1452
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 1: was my main position. That was what I was recruited for.

1453
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 1: And you know, um, when I when I went to college,

1454
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 1: you know, I was expecting to be a defensive lineman.

1455
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 1: And you know, we had a bunch of injuries on

1456
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 1: the offensive line, a thousand story I've told thousand times,

1457
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:27,679
Speaker 1: and um, I moved to offensive line with coach Grimes

1458
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 1: and rest its history. You know, at first, you know,

1459
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 1: being naive, you think, you know, it would be nice

1460
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 1: to move back to defensive line, but you realize real

1461
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Speaker 1: quick that that's, uh, that's not God's plan. Talk a

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Speaker 1: little bit about this is interesting to me because when

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01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 1: you move from right guard to left guard like you

1464
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 1: have been, I mean, you've got to be you know, versatile. Yeah,

1465
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Speaker 1: it's right handed left handed? Is that which one's the

1466
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 1: problem for you? And which one's your natural spot? Imagine

1467
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:54,599
Speaker 1: you know it's it's professional football, so yeah, imagine being

1468
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Speaker 1: a NASCAR driver and having to drive on the right

1469
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Speaker 1: side of the cockpit and the left side of the the

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Speaker 1: cockpicked and the right side of the cock bin the

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01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,799
Speaker 1: left that pact. But um, you know it's just trusting

1472
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 1: your technique and fund meal is truthfully, Um, you know,

1473
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 1: the speed of the game won't change. Uh, you know,

1474
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 1: just which way you're kicking, and you know, being being

1475
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 1: able to do both is uh that's how you get

1476
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 1: on the teams. Yeah, and that's the thing. You got

1477
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 1: to mirror your technique as well. I mean you got

1478
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 1: to practice. Do you have to go out early and

1479
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 1: start doing the kick out before prices. You get used

1480
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 1: to doing it, sure, you know, and you gotta put

1481
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 1: a different hand on the ground, don't you. Yeah. Um,

1482
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 1: you know the biggest thing I found is, you know,

1483
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 1: doing doing more than you know, my counterparts, Doing more

1484
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 1: than some of the other guys. Is is how I'm

1485
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 1: trying to push, you know, competition between all the guys.

1486
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:38,680
Speaker 1: And you know, we have a great rookie class. We

1487
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:41,559
Speaker 1: all stay after you know, thirty minutes forty five an

1488
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 1: hour just to do sets, just to do run block,

1489
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,680
Speaker 1: just to do steps, um, just so we can you know,

1490
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 1: catch up. You know, being technically sound isn't natural, you know,

1491
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 1: playing football, going backwards, going forwards. You know, it's just

1492
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 1: not natural movements. So the biggest thing is is to

1493
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 1: teach yourself and make it, make it natural. Why Teller

1494
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 1: Buffalo's fifth round draft pick the offense monment from Virginia

1495
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 1: Tech in studio with us. When you went to Tech,

1496
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 1: it seems like you made your mark early in the

1497
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 1: weight room, right. You kind of impressed people with the

1498
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 1: stuff you were doing today. Yeah, that was the biggest thing,

1499
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 1: you know when I was when I was getting recruited,

1500
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 1: you know, there was a lot of great strength coaches.

1501
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of great programs, you know,

1502
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 1: a lot of success. But you know one person that

1503
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:20,840
Speaker 1: you know I looked up to like a father was

1504
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 1: coach Gentry, Mike Gentry um Virginia Tech. And you know

1505
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 1: he's a big part, you know, m to why I

1506
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:29,759
Speaker 1: chose to go to Virginia Tech. You know, the hunting, fishing,

1507
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 1: you know, the campus is beautiful, that people are great.

1508
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 1: You know, the coach, most winning US coach, But you

1509
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:36,680
Speaker 1: know it was more of who's gonna better me as

1510
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 1: a man? And you know when you talk to coach Gentry,

1511
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 1: you know he's he's someone strength coach. He's a strength coach,

1512
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:44,560
Speaker 1: you know, And you know I understood coaches change. You

1513
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:46,760
Speaker 1: ever go to a place for a coach, but you know,

1514
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 1: he you know, he was just someone I looked up

1515
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 1: to him more than you know a lot of people, right,

1516
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 1: so a lot of everybody, a lot of people, you know,

1517
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 1: they go to college or whatever and it's not quite right,

1518
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 1: It's not what they envisioned. Other people. It's the greatest

1519
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 1: experience every you had a coaching change in the middle

1520
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 1: of your career. There we were talking about it as

1521
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 1: we were in breaking and and it took you a

1522
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 1: while to adjust to that. Yeah, talk talk a little

1523
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 1: bit about that, and how did that affect your overall

1524
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:14,599
Speaker 1: view of Virginia Tech. Yeah, you know, I never fell

1525
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 1: out of love with virgameis hyph, Virginia Tech is my

1526
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 1: home and okay, you know we have the slogan, you know,

1527
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 1: this is home and it's it's true. Um. But the

1528
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 1: biggest thing is is with uh, with the coaching change,

1529
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:24,720
Speaker 1: you got to learn how, you know, to do it

1530
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:26,679
Speaker 1: their way. You know, it's the biggest thing with this too.

1531
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 1: You know coach Uh, Coach McDermott, you know, Coach Castilia.

1532
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 1: You know, they wanted a certain way and you've got

1533
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 1: to do it that way. And uh, you know, I'm

1534
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 1: blessed to have that opportunity with coach Flinte too, to

1535
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 1: learn that, you know, this way is not going to work,

1536
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 1: you gotta do it a new way. And it wasn't

1537
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:42,679
Speaker 1: that what we were doing with coach Berman was wrong.

1538
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 1: You know, twenty three straight Bowl games at that point

1539
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 1: is saying something. So you know, it wasn't doing it wrong.

1540
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 1: It was just a different way. So your coach Flinte

1541
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 1: there at Virginia Tech was the first time you only

1542
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 1: had a you know, mid career as it were your

1543
01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 1: college career. You had to switch it up and do

1544
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 1: things that way. And that the lesson of doing what

1545
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 1: you're told rather than what you've always done. Exactly, it's

1546
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:06,600
Speaker 1: different has really served you well in this camp. Yeah, exactly. UM,

1547
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 1: you know, just understanding if if what you're doing isn't working,

1548
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 1: you know, change change. You know, it's as simple as that. Um.

1549
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 1: You know, obviously there's something that makes you special, but

1550
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 1: you got to be able to, uh, to do what

1551
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 1: the coaches want, coaches coaches need. Hey, why I didn't

1552
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 1: um when you were drafted Draft weekend a couple of

1553
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 1: months ago, two days before the trim and Edmonds, your

1554
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 1: teammate from Virginia Tech, was drafted in your first round.

1555
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 1: Did I read this right? Did you say he's the

1556
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 1: best player you ever played against? I mean, look at

1557
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 1: him to sell me, but you have to sell many

1558
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 1: people on how he's a billboard. He's a big billboard

1559
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 1: for big and bad exactly like a football player. And

1560
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 1: not only look at him, but I mean just you know,

1561
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:46,800
Speaker 1: if you look at his habits, the way he way

1562
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 1: he performs, the way he acts the way he he's

1563
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 1: a mature guy. Um, you can tell that this is

1564
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:54,839
Speaker 1: his life and you know, this is this is his future.

1565
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 1: Was he like that? It was he? You know, did

1566
01:14:57,320 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 1: he stand out like I mean he stands out up

1567
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 1: there because he viously because he's like nine feet tall.

1568
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 1: But did he Was he a special guy Virginia Tech? Yeah?

1569
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 1: I remember he was coming in and you know, a

1570
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:10,799
Speaker 1: lot of the buzz. You're not really big into recruiting,

1571
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 1: you know, obviously you talk to some of the younger

1572
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 1: guys and talk to some of the freshman coming in,

1573
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 1: but as a player, you know, you're you know, you're

1574
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:18,639
Speaker 1: kind of focused on doing your own job and everything

1575
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 1: like that. And once the guys come in, you know,

1576
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 1: you embraced him and tream like brothers. But you know,

1577
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 1: I remember everybody was huge buzz on him and we

1578
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:26,600
Speaker 1: had to get him. We had to get him, and

1579
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 1: we had his you know, two older brothers, and you

1580
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 1: know we thought it was a sure shot. So you know,

1581
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 1: he was, he was coming Virginia Tech. And I just remember,

1582
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 1: you know, looking at him and I'll be like, wow,

1583
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 1: you know I didn't look like that on the defensive

1584
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 1: line in linebacker, but uh, you know he's he's a

1585
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 1: special guy and a great man as well. He's a

1586
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 1: rookie just like you. But they have put him in

1587
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:46,720
Speaker 1: position to take kin a lot, right. They got him

1588
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 1: calling defensive signals, running with the ones or yeah, um,

1589
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly who's on the ones or who's

1590
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:54,640
Speaker 1: on the twos, but you know he you know, they

1591
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 1: drafted him to bring competition and bring uh you know, depth,

1592
01:15:57,560 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 1: and I think that he's doing both. What's it like

1593
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 1: being a rookie here on this Bills team so far?

1594
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 1: It's only been what a couple of months now since

1595
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 1: you were drafted? But yeah, what do the atmosphere here?

1596
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 1: What do you pick up around one? It's a special

1597
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 1: place really, just the community as well. But uh, you

1598
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 1: know coach McDermott what he's bringing here, and uh, you

1599
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 1: know really what I mean what I go back to

1600
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 1: every time it is competition, you know, one to eleventh

1601
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 1: through your job, you know, trust the process, all these

1602
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 1: things that you know, Bills fans have heard, but you know,

1603
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:25,680
Speaker 1: it's truly a living thing here. You know, it's it's special. Um.

1604
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 1: You know, at Virginia Tech, we had kind of a

1605
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 1: lot of the same things you know, do your part,

1606
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:31,600
Speaker 1: you know, trust the process, all these things, but you

1607
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 1: know it's it's true. It's with the community too, and

1608
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 1: it's it's special here. Talk a little bit about the

1609
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 1: atmosphere in the locker room last year. And I'm sure

1610
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 1: you've seen the videos of when when this team got

1611
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 1: to the playoffs and how they all found out together

1612
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 1: and the whole Bills, you know, the whole Bills fan

1613
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 1: base was watching the same game, the Baltimore, Cincinnati and Cincinnatio.

1614
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 1: Have you been able to fit? And you get a

1615
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 1: sense of how together that team was just from that

1616
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 1: one twenty second video. We saw some other things during

1617
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 1: this season. They told us that too. Tell us what

1618
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 1: it's like in the locker room this year, because they've

1619
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 1: said it starts all over again. Yeah. Um, you know,

1620
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 1: something we wear on you know, half the shirts we

1621
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 1: have is playoff caliber, you know, being whatever you do

1622
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:11,600
Speaker 1: and everything you do, you know, be playoff caliber. And

1623
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 1: you know, it was funny when we were watching that video.

1624
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 1: You know, we had Aj Aj was there. AJ's here

1625
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:19,600
Speaker 1: now and Russ Bodine he's here, and how you know

1626
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 1: I go up to Russ and I just you know,

1627
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 1: Nujami said thanks man, I appreciate it. I bet you

1628
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:26,600
Speaker 1: the whole community appreciate and uh but no, it was

1629
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:28,720
Speaker 1: it was special and it's truly a family here. And

1630
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 1: uh you know you realize that while watching those videos

1631
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:32,640
Speaker 1: and watching the team, and you know, while you're in

1632
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:34,840
Speaker 1: the locker room, you know, everybody's embraced to you know,

1633
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 1: the younger guys, and like I said, it it's it

1634
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 1: truly a special here. Younger guys seemed close. In fact,

1635
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 1: the rookie group went out to his school yesterday, right right, Yeah,

1636
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 1: we a little look at little development, rookie development. But uh,

1637
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 1: you know, we have a close, close group and uh,

1638
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 1: you know, blessed to be a part of it. You

1639
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 1: grew up in northern Virginia in kind of a rural area. Yeah,

1640
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 1: you know, are you comfortable here in Buffalo so far? Yeah?

1641
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 1: I love it here. Uh you know, the nickname down

1642
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 1: the road is cows and Corner, Virginia. So you know,

1643
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:06,800
Speaker 1: it's a special place and uh, like I mean, it's home,

1644
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:09,760
Speaker 1: you know. Um, but no, here it's been beautiful. You know,

1645
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:11,759
Speaker 1: I've been in the city a couple of times and uh,

1646
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:13,719
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, you know, the people around

1647
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 1: here awesome hunting fishing. That's part of what you like. Yeah,

1648
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 1: I like that that goes on around here. Yeah yeah,

1649
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 1: I know every day, you know, going home and coming here,

1650
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 1: I see about seven or eight deer and I'm like, yeah, yeah,

1651
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 1: but when you come shoot him out of my yard

1652
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:29,479
Speaker 1: because you're eating my landscaping. But um, there's also world

1653
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:32,560
Speaker 1: class fly fishing. If you ever flow fly fish, uh

1654
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 1: a little bit. Uh, you know obviously you know, being

1655
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 1: a big guy, you know, I don't like to walk him.

1656
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 1: Can you find waters that big? That's the thighs? But no,

1657
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 1: they probably makes see it's probably it said one of

1658
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 1: the consequences of you, I buy right off the rack. Yeah, see,

1659
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 1: not like you where it's all you know, it's what

1660
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 1: do you think next week will be? Like? Yeah, different

1661
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 1: for the mandatory mini camp or pretty much what you've

1662
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 1: done in OTAs. Um. You know I feel that. Uh.

1663
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 1: You know. The big thing is is you know, like

1664
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:03,600
Speaker 1: I said, you know, competing and everything like that. You know,

1665
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 1: these guys are gonna come in and you know so

1666
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:08,719
Speaker 1: far you know the team's been you know, one piece

1667
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 1: of group and you know it's gonna go for another

1668
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 1: week and you know I'm excited to see it. Great

1669
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 1: day have you here. Thank you very much, good luck you,

1670
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 1: thank you. Whyatt Tyler Bill's fifth round draft pick, the

1671
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 1: offensive linement from Virginia Tech. John Murphy, Step Tasker backup

1672
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 1: morn a moment One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive

1673
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 1: and this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Back live a One

1674
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:40,680
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive, John Murphy and Steve Tasker. Today's OTA is over.

1675
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Speaker 1: They've got another one tomorrow and then they've got three

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01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 1: mandatory mini camp days and then training camp believe it

1677
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 1: or not, coming up in late July. John Murphy and

1678
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker here until three o'clock today. Lorenzo Alex Janders

1679
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 1: going to stop by at two and spend an hour

1680
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 1: with us. Wyatt Teyler is impressive. Add him to the

1681
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:59,800
Speaker 1: list of impressive new additions to this rosters. Teave guys

1682
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 1: who can talk, Guys who got their head on straight,

1683
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 1: and guys who seem to get it, you know what

1684
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 1: the process is here and what they're looking to do here.

1685
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:08,760
Speaker 1: I like having guys like that around. Yeah, that's and

1686
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:11,840
Speaker 1: they're well spoken, they're well thought out, they're eager to learn,

1687
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 1: they're working hard, they're gifted. They're checking all the boxes off,

1688
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 1: but you know, all of it's it's nice to talk about,

1689
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 1: but they haven't played any football games yet, so let's

1690
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 1: you know, we'll pump the brakes on on it. But

1691
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 1: I usually tell you to pump the brakes. I'm just saying,

1692
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:30,800
Speaker 1: I told you this is it's a great group. It

1693
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 1: really is. And you'd like to think that adds up

1694
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:34,639
Speaker 1: to a lot of good thing and I think it does.

1695
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 1: But this is a team, and particularly given their success

1696
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:40,519
Speaker 1: last year and how unlikely it was, given the fact

1697
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 1: that what they did to their roster and how they

1698
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 1: got better by getting rid of better players, it's it's

1699
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:49,519
Speaker 1: pretty intriguing to think about what this group could do

1700
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 1: if they can get the same production out of a

1701
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:53,760
Speaker 1: better talent core. So it's it's gonna be fun. A

1702
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:56,599
Speaker 1: couple of big things to talk about today our Twitter poll. First,

1703
01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:58,760
Speaker 1: we'd love you to weigh in on this. Do you

1704
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 1: anticipate there's a big roster move still to come for

1705
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 1: the Bills before they get to a training camp, just

1706
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 1: like there was a year ago, or at least when

1707
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 1: they got into training camp last year. Let's say before

1708
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 1: the season starts to anticipate another big splashy move for

1709
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:14,880
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. When it comes to a personnel on Twitter,

1710
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:17,640
Speaker 1: those voting fifty one percent say yeah, they're going to

1711
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 1: do that this year. Forty nine percent say no, I

1712
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 1: don't think so, what do you think? Give us a

1713
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:23,559
Speaker 1: call eight oh three oh five fifty and toll free

1714
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:26,560
Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. We

1715
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 1: could talk about that. We could talk about Terrell Owens,

1716
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 1: a former Bills receiver who made a big splash today

1717
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:34,639
Speaker 1: with the big announcement, which I find defensive, I gotta

1718
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 1: say Carol. Owens says he's going on the Hall of

1719
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 1: Fame right. Elected to the Hall of Fame a couple

1720
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 1: of months ago in February, he said he's made the

1721
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:46,799
Speaker 1: decision to publicly decline his invitation to attend the induction

1722
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 1: ceremony in Canton. Said he's told the Hall that he

1723
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:51,720
Speaker 1: came to the realization that he wants to celebrate what

1724
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 1: will be one of the most memorable days of his

1725
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:56,519
Speaker 1: life elsewhere. He says, as a later day, at a

1726
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 1: later date, I will announce where and when I will

1727
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 1: celebrate my induction. I think it's horrible, Yeah, I mean

1728
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:05,640
Speaker 1: you always get feedback on Twitter about you know. You know,

1729
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 1: I've been talking about it, and both of us have

1730
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 1: pretty strong feelings about it, and that are pretty clear.

1731
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:12,640
Speaker 1: And some people think we're out of line forgetting on

1732
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 1: because the guy can do what he wants. Yeah, I

1733
01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:16,720
Speaker 1: get it what he wants, yeah, absolutely, But there are

1734
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:19,840
Speaker 1: consequences to your actions in this life. There is whether

1735
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 1: you think you're right or wrong, and whether we have

1736
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:23,599
Speaker 1: all these rights in our country to do whatever we want. Yes,

1737
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 1: we do, but there are consequences associated with exercising those

1738
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 1: rights and waiving our right to exercise those rights. Sometimes

1739
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 1: not taking advantage of everything you're free to do is

1740
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:36,560
Speaker 1: the best course of action, and in this case, I

1741
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 1: think Terrell Owens made the wrong course of action. I

1742
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 1: think it's wrong not to go to Canton, Ohio and

1743
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:43,640
Speaker 1: accept your induction into the Pro Football Sports Hall of

1744
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:46,639
Speaker 1: Fame Pro Football Hall of Fame. I think it's wrong.

1745
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:49,559
Speaker 1: I think it's insulting to the guys that are in there.

1746
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 1: I think it's disrespectful to the game that has given

1747
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:54,280
Speaker 1: you so much, or at least it perceive. I perceive

1748
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:56,760
Speaker 1: that it's given him a lot. Maybe it hasn't given

1749
01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:59,559
Speaker 1: him anything. Maybe doesn't feel like he owes football anything,

1750
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:02,800
Speaker 1: So maybe I am out of line in thinking that

1751
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 1: he should go. He you know, shouldn't be there, So

1752
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 1: there's no question about it. He's good at getting attention,

1753
01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:14,880
Speaker 1: and this is one more, one more. He's got one

1754
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 1: more example of that. So a couple of tweets on

1755
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 1: this topic, the teo topic, and a lot of them

1756
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:23,160
Speaker 1: focused on our reaction. Billy Ocean tweets, and there are

1757
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 1: players that were passed over so he could be inducted.

1758
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 1: By publicly announcing that he won't be present for the

1759
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 1: induction ceremony, he is disrespecting every player that did not

1760
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 1: have that opportunity. He doesn't care. I agree with that,

1761
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 1: disrespecting those who didn't make it, disrespecting those Hall of

1762
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:39,639
Speaker 1: famers who are in disrespecting the class of twenty eighteen.

1763
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 1: Is he better than ray Lewis Is he more deserving

1764
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:46,720
Speaker 1: than than some of the others going in this year?

1765
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 1: I don't think so. And on the other hand, Chris

1766
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 1: Dress tweets and looks like one Bill's live. Steve and

1767
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 1: I are going full skit skip Bayliss today over teo.

1768
01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:58,640
Speaker 1: Murph and Task are laying down a thick coat of sanctimony.

1769
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 1: Let the man do what he wants. He can do

1770
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:01,720
Speaker 1: what he wants. He's the right to do what he wants.

1771
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 1: He's right to skip the ceremony. That's right. It doesn't

1772
01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 1: mean I'm gonna applaud it. Let me do what I want.

1773
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 1: I want to tell you how bad it is that

1774
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 1: he is disrespecting all those other Hall of Famers and

1775
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:11,680
Speaker 1: the guys he's going in with you. I'm just saying this.

1776
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 1: You can do whatever you want in our country, but

1777
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:19,360
Speaker 1: don't don't don't shrug or be surprised by the consequences.

1778
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:22,640
Speaker 1: Don't think that you're gonna that nobody's gonna have an

1779
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:25,800
Speaker 1: opinion about it, because they've Everybody around you've got has

1780
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:27,679
Speaker 1: just as many rights as you do, and you're gonna

1781
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 1: and there are consequences to your actions, just like there

1782
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:32,800
Speaker 1: are consequences for not being the kind of person that

1783
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 1: people want to be around, which is why Terrell Owens

1784
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 1: wasn't a rubber stamped first ballot Hall of Famer in

1785
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 1: the first place. There's no reason Terrell Owens, with the

1786
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:44,920
Speaker 1: career numbers that he put up shouldn't have been in

1787
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame at the absolute first moment he

1788
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:51,560
Speaker 1: was eligible, but they made him wait because of the

1789
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 1: kind of human being he was while he was playing.

1790
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:58,720
Speaker 1: They were right and now and now they are justified

1791
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 1: in making him wait in some of them and would

1792
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:02,800
Speaker 1: You're going to hear some backlash from some of the

1793
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 1: voters as well. Hearing it already your former teammate, our

1794
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 1: buddy James Lofton Pro Football Hall of Famer former Buffalo

1795
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:11,759
Speaker 1: Bills receiver James Lofton Wayne in on terall Owen's decision,

1796
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:15,600
Speaker 1: Here's what he had to say. I'm a little bit mystified,

1797
01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 1: and I don't want to jump to a conclusion from

1798
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:25,760
Speaker 1: his angle, just disappointed. It is such a great experience,

1799
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:30,559
Speaker 1: a nice collection of players that you have played against,

1800
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 1: players that you might have admired, and you become part

1801
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 1: of history. With the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Going

1802
01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:41,560
Speaker 1: through the ceremonies, they do such a great job in

1803
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:44,519
Speaker 1: highlighting the players. Even now, they bring all of the

1804
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 1: players who are up for induction, you know that final fifteen,

1805
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:53,000
Speaker 1: they bring them to the Super Bowl the year before,

1806
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 1: they acknowledge them at a banquet. The process of highlighting

1807
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 1: these players, the Hall of Fame does a great job

1808
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 1: in it. Obviously, Terrell Owens thinks that he can, you know,

1809
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 1: have more fun or could be more important to him

1810
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:11,760
Speaker 1: to do it on his own, and so we'll mail

1811
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:15,080
Speaker 1: him his gold jacket. I am heartbroken. I said, you

1812
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:17,840
Speaker 1: you have like a collective grown like you'd like to

1813
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 1: reach out to him and ask him to rethink the decision.

1814
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 1: My wife asked me, are you going to call him?

1815
01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:25,880
Speaker 1: And I'm going why wouldn't you call him? I will

1816
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:27,280
Speaker 1: call him, but I don't know if I try and

1817
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 1: talk to him, just you know what happened, kind of

1818
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 1: you kind of want to know, you don't because I

1819
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:36,479
Speaker 1: don't want to be bitter towards t O. Yeah, everybody

1820
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:38,920
Speaker 1: has a decision to make. He's the only one who's

1821
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 1: ever done this, so he must have. There just must

1822
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 1: have been something stirring inside of him that, you know

1823
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 1: where It just didn't didn't sit James lofton Pro Football

1824
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:52,439
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer on Serious Sex NFL Radio. A typically

1825
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 1: measured intelligent response by James, right, he doesn't. Maybe you

1826
01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 1: and I are listening. Maybe there is something we don't know.

1827
01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:00,559
Speaker 1: Maybe we should wait, But I don't know if there's

1828
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:03,599
Speaker 1: something important that keeping him away from August fourth at Kenton.

1829
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 1: He should say what it is because guys like Steve

1830
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 1: and I and I'm sure several others, several other Hall

1831
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:11,080
Speaker 1: of famers are going to be upset about this. Well,

1832
01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:12,559
Speaker 1: you and I are at a different level. I mean

1833
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:14,960
Speaker 1: that James's got to live with him and he's in

1834
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:16,280
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame and TiO is going to be

1835
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:18,600
Speaker 1: They're gonna rub up against each other. James, so he

1836
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 1: doesn't want to bernity, but he knows he doesn't want

1837
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 1: to make the guy hate him, and he doesn't want

1838
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 1: to come to hate the guy for that. I mean,

1839
01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:26,439
Speaker 1: because he knows they're they're gonna be part of a

1840
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 1: fraternity together. Uh. Terrell Owens is going in the Pro

1841
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame. Uh, And James, I'm sure knows

1842
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:37,439
Speaker 1: what that means. They're gonna be at a lot of

1843
01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:40,519
Speaker 1: events together. They're gonna be running in the same circles

1844
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 1: now for a while, and they probably and they probably

1845
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 1: any of that. He may not for his induction, he

1846
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:49,320
Speaker 1: may not, But nevertheless, James is smart enough to realize

1847
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 1: that when you're in that fraternity, you give other guys

1848
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:55,800
Speaker 1: in that fraternity and a level of respect starting with

1849
01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 1: the fact that you show up for the induction. So

1850
01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:01,320
Speaker 1: Terrell has decided not to do that. But James is

1851
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:03,600
Speaker 1: still and you st here because I don't want to

1852
01:28:03,640 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 1: make any conclusions about why or whine fours or why not.

1853
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:07,560
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna try and talk him out of it,

1854
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 1: but I would like he you know, he's gonna like

1855
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 1: to know why, what's going on, what happened, and if

1856
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 1: you know, he's willing to give the guy the benefit

1857
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 1: of the doubt. Call here from Ted in Rochester head, Ted,

1858
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:22,720
Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air with this. But I

1859
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 1: was calling about two takes on the terrello and saying

1860
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:29,800
Speaker 1: the first take being that everybody kind of conplainer, knowing

1861
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:33,680
Speaker 1: Terrell Owens, especially with his reality shows and everything, I

1862
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 1: look at this as another stunt of his to make

1863
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:39,200
Speaker 1: it all about him. Um. I think he's stepping all

1864
01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:42,120
Speaker 1: over the other inductees and he wants to stand out

1865
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 1: from the rest of them, and he wants this whole

1866
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:46,240
Speaker 1: show to be about him. Well, a better way to

1867
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:49,600
Speaker 1: do that than to grab all the attention and the

1868
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:52,160
Speaker 1: news and the press and the line life by doing

1869
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 1: what he's doing here, which is a publicity stunt. In

1870
01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:58,880
Speaker 1: my opinion, you just this is something kind of Yeah, again,

1871
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:01,960
Speaker 1: it's your country, it's your right to do what you want.

1872
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:06,679
Speaker 1: But you know there's things you just don't do sometimes.

1873
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:10,200
Speaker 1: It's kind of tradition. And and to do that to

1874
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:12,200
Speaker 1: beg to get into this is what a lot of

1875
01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 1: people do to get into this Hall of fame. And

1876
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 1: then to just snub it like that at the last second.

1877
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 1: Another thing I look at is that the second thing

1878
01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 1: is he's snubbing his fans. If he has fans that

1879
01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 1: wanted to go there and celebrate this with him and say, wow,

1880
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:26,640
Speaker 1: this is the last time we're going to see you

1881
01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 1: in this kind of way to honor your you know,

1882
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 1: the game that has been good to you, us fans

1883
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:34,040
Speaker 1: that have been good to you, that have basically made

1884
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 1: you who you are, you know, made you quite rich,

1885
01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:39,720
Speaker 1: made you have a good life on this and to

1886
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:42,720
Speaker 1: just say, you know, I don't need you people, I

1887
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:45,320
Speaker 1: just this is all about me. And you know, I

1888
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:46,920
Speaker 1: think he thinks he's going to have it somewhere else

1889
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:48,320
Speaker 1: and all the cameras are going to come to him

1890
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:51,280
Speaker 1: and make it a big thing about him, and and

1891
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:53,559
Speaker 1: it'll be probably in the news for a whole week

1892
01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:55,519
Speaker 1: or two or leading up to this thing, for weeks

1893
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:58,840
Speaker 1: to come, and that's what he wants because maybe he

1894
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:00,760
Speaker 1: craves that because he's been out of the limelight for

1895
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:03,200
Speaker 1: a while, he's been irrelevant for quite some time now

1896
01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:05,880
Speaker 1: after he's been out of the league. Well, Ted, that's it.

1897
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:08,240
Speaker 1: That's a good call. And I and I, you know,

1898
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:10,360
Speaker 1: that's kind of where I was coming from too. If

1899
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:12,600
Speaker 1: if it is all about that, if it is a

1900
01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:15,320
Speaker 1: total uh and I said it was a money grab

1901
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:18,479
Speaker 1: because he'll probably trademark his his induction party and that

1902
01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:20,759
Speaker 1: kind of thing. He'll probably I don't know, charge admission.

1903
01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:22,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what he's gonna do, but it's a

1904
01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:28,040
Speaker 1: It certainly is an attention grabbing stunt, and it's a

1905
01:30:28,360 --> 01:30:31,559
Speaker 1: money grabbing stunt for that, for lack of a better

1906
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:33,240
Speaker 1: way to put it, I don't know, it seems like

1907
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:35,880
Speaker 1: to me because that's when if you're gonna throw your

1908
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:39,000
Speaker 1: own party at this level as a Hall of Fame

1909
01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 1: inductee in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, after making

1910
01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:43,519
Speaker 1: a public statement as you just made, you know, it's

1911
01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:45,599
Speaker 1: going to be an event that somebody that the media

1912
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:48,439
Speaker 1: is going to have to cover. Uh, so you're gonna

1913
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:50,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it seems obvious to me that it's a

1914
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:53,920
Speaker 1: it's a publicity stunt, uh, And he's going to be

1915
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:58,679
Speaker 1: selling something, whether whether it's his attention or his chief,

1916
01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:06,200
Speaker 1: his trademark, his cheat TV show, whatever his trademark. It

1917
01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:09,040
Speaker 1: seems to me like that's he's right. It's it's about him,

1918
01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:10,800
Speaker 1: and he doesn't want to share it with any the

1919
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:13,000
Speaker 1: other inductees. You know, else, you can approve how many

1920
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:15,280
Speaker 1: times you've been attended the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

1921
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 1: I bet I've been there ten or twelve, five, six, seven,

1922
01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:20,479
Speaker 1: Both of us been there a while. See, if you

1923
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:22,080
Speaker 1: agree with this, you don't have to. By the way,

1924
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:25,479
Speaker 1: the people of Canton, the people of the Pro Football

1925
01:31:25,479 --> 01:31:27,920
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame in Canton, they will be offended by this,

1926
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 1: they'll be hurt by this. They pour their lives into

1927
01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:34,280
Speaker 1: that one weekend in August. People like Buffalo Natives Joe Hargan,

1928
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:37,880
Speaker 1: Pete Fairley, who have tried, and they've done a good job.

1929
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:40,679
Speaker 1: They've kept it viable, they kept it going when maybe

1930
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:42,479
Speaker 1: ten years ago it looked like the Pro Football Hall

1931
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:44,719
Speaker 1: of Fame Knight might not make it, might move somewhere

1932
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:47,639
Speaker 1: else they kept it going. Now the Pro Football Football

1933
01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:50,479
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame is going strong, and for TiO to

1934
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:52,320
Speaker 1: do this it look it won't end the Pro Football

1935
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:55,400
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, but it certainly puts a stain on

1936
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:58,120
Speaker 1: really the grandeur of the weekend, I think, and I

1937
01:31:58,200 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 1: feel bad for those people that can't you've been there.

1938
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:02,200
Speaker 1: They there are people who pour their lives into that

1939
01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:05,200
Speaker 1: three or four day weekend in Kent, Ohio, the first

1940
01:32:05,240 --> 01:32:07,280
Speaker 1: weekend of August who are going to feel a little

1941
01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:09,120
Speaker 1: bit hurt by this. I feel bad for them. I

1942
01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:11,280
Speaker 1: do too. I think there'll be some backlash. I don't

1943
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:12,479
Speaker 1: know what it would be. I don't know how they

1944
01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:14,200
Speaker 1: would and I don't even know that the Hall of

1945
01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:19,800
Speaker 1: Fame would allow the backlash to envelop whatever it would

1946
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:22,880
Speaker 1: be to envelop. They may protect him from it out

1947
01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:24,559
Speaker 1: of respect for him and the way they do business,

1948
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:27,000
Speaker 1: because they're you know, they're top shelf people there, I mean,

1949
01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:29,759
Speaker 1: so they may protect him from that and not allow

1950
01:32:29,880 --> 01:32:32,800
Speaker 1: the city or whatever or they you know, and you

1951
01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:36,439
Speaker 1: can bet there'll be a couple of owners that will

1952
01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:39,960
Speaker 1: chime off about it. There'll be some owners that will,

1953
01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 1: you know, because this isn't This isn't a social issue,

1954
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:52,720
Speaker 1: this isn't a protest. This is strictly something the guy

1955
01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:56,960
Speaker 1: wants to do, And so the owners will feel no

1956
01:32:57,520 --> 01:33:01,720
Speaker 1: obligation to take the company line for the NFL on

1957
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:03,840
Speaker 1: this one. Even if the NFL takes the high road,

1958
01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:07,479
Speaker 1: you can bet that some of the owners are won't

1959
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:09,960
Speaker 1: mind getting dirty over this one. They'll they'll chime in

1960
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:13,760
Speaker 1: with their true thoughts if if indeed, they feel obligated to.

1961
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:15,960
Speaker 1: I'm not saying all of them will. I wouldn't be

1962
01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:17,559
Speaker 1: surprised if one or two of them has a few

1963
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 1: things to say. Going Arrol, Owens says, thanks for electromunity

1964
01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:22,760
Speaker 1: of the Hall of Fame. I won't be there August fourth.

1965
01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:25,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to have my own celebration. I call on

1966
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:28,720
Speaker 1: this Joe and Hamburg. Hello, Joe, welcome, you're on the air. Hi, guys,

1967
01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:32,439
Speaker 1: how are you good? So I just feel, like Steve said,

1968
01:33:32,479 --> 01:33:34,280
Speaker 1: and a lot of things you read and see, at

1969
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:36,120
Speaker 1: least a couple of years ago or whatever was there.

1970
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:39,200
Speaker 1: You know that Taral Owens was all out of his money,

1971
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:40,960
Speaker 1: that most of his money was gone, and I think

1972
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:45,200
Speaker 1: it's a huge money grab. Like Steve says, and you know,

1973
01:33:45,280 --> 01:33:47,880
Speaker 1: I'm in the basic same age group as both of you,

1974
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:50,920
Speaker 1: and so many things that were norms, whether we're talking

1975
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:53,320
Speaker 1: political or not, which I'm not talking. You just said,

1976
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:56,240
Speaker 1: it's not so many things are doing. So many people

1977
01:33:56,240 --> 01:33:58,760
Speaker 1: are just doing things that are against the norm and

1978
01:33:59,720 --> 01:34:03,240
Speaker 1: what you and I may sometimes consider normal. But so

1979
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:04,840
Speaker 1: many people were just doing what they want to do.

1980
01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:08,200
Speaker 1: And I think go was just doing what people are doing.

1981
01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:10,920
Speaker 1: And I think it's all about funny. That's it. Okay,

1982
01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:14,160
Speaker 1: did he if he had financial issues? I was unaware

1983
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:16,000
Speaker 1: of that. Did he? Did you ever? I don't know,

1984
01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:20,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. At this point, it's irrelevant.

1985
01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:23,720
Speaker 1: Anthony and Nagarapal So hello, Anthony, you're on the air

1986
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:27,719
Speaker 1: with us. Hey, guys, so are you good? Good? Listen.

1987
01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:32,160
Speaker 1: I have to applaud with Terrell Owens is doing. I mean,

1988
01:34:33,240 --> 01:34:37,240
Speaker 1: this guy got looked over as a first ballot Hall

1989
01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:41,519
Speaker 1: of Famer only because people didn't like him as a person.

1990
01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:46,000
Speaker 1: This guy dominated, dominated on the field during his career.

1991
01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:50,320
Speaker 1: It was hard, he was hard working, He always showed

1992
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:53,080
Speaker 1: up the work, He worked hard, just because he wasn't

1993
01:34:53,160 --> 01:34:57,040
Speaker 1: liked maybe by some teammates or by some media people.

1994
01:34:57,200 --> 01:34:59,280
Speaker 1: There's no reason why he should have been left out

1995
01:34:59,280 --> 01:35:01,439
Speaker 1: of the Hall of Fame the first ballot. Well, Anthony,

1996
01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:04,479
Speaker 1: you just mentioned the reasons. Well, I mean yeah, but

1997
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:08,080
Speaker 1: that's not It should be based off performance, Steve, not

1998
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:10,600
Speaker 1: based off of whether you like somebody or not. Well,

1999
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:13,280
Speaker 1: here's my take, Anthony, I get what you're saying. It

2000
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:16,040
Speaker 1: should be only a strictly a numbers thing. I said

2001
01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:18,840
Speaker 1: it earlier in the broadcast. The kind of person, no

2002
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:23,360
Speaker 1: matter what endeavor you're in, whether you're in accounting, whether

2003
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:26,400
Speaker 1: you're in sales, whether you're in law, whether you're in medicine,

2004
01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:30,960
Speaker 1: whether you're digging ditches, or whether you're the president of

2005
01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:35,320
Speaker 1: the United States, the kind of person you are and

2006
01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:37,840
Speaker 1: the way you treat a stranger as well as a

2007
01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:43,639
Speaker 1: loved one counts all the time, every day, every moment,

2008
01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:48,280
Speaker 1: and at some point the fact that you don't do

2009
01:35:48,479 --> 01:35:51,240
Speaker 1: that very well, it's going to count against you at

2010
01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:54,880
Speaker 1: some point, maybe sometime very small, maybe sometimes very big.

2011
01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:58,720
Speaker 1: But you're telling me too that now, all those other

2012
01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:01,640
Speaker 1: guys who like that had to wait to get in

2013
01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:05,479
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. What's what's your excuse for that?

2014
01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:07,599
Speaker 1: And what's my big. There's a ton of guys who

2015
01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:09,000
Speaker 1: had to wait to get in the Hall of Fame

2016
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:10,840
Speaker 1: who should have been in. Nobody has the right to

2017
01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:13,000
Speaker 1: first ballot status in the Hall of Fame. You when

2018
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:15,680
Speaker 1: you're elected, you're elected, no matter when it is right,

2019
01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:19,760
Speaker 1: it's a vote, right, it's yeah amongst people's opinion, Yeah,

2020
01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:24,400
Speaker 1: it really shouldn't necessarily be that way before when a

2021
01:36:24,439 --> 01:36:26,960
Speaker 1: player dominates on the field, Like, I get what you're saying,

2022
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:29,040
Speaker 1: but this guy wasn't in and out of jail. This

2023
01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:32,560
Speaker 1: guy didn't get arrested. Nobody's saying he was okay, So

2024
01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:36,120
Speaker 1: that made him he wasn't a bad citizen. Maybe you

2025
01:36:36,240 --> 01:36:39,400
Speaker 1: didn't like him. I didn't even know him. Well, I

2026
01:36:39,479 --> 01:36:41,320
Speaker 1: didn't even know him all. I'm doing his day, what

2027
01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:44,439
Speaker 1: his public persona is. I'm just going by what's public,

2028
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:47,599
Speaker 1: what he's made public, what he's publicized. He's the guy

2029
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:50,200
Speaker 1: that was in his in his driveway doing sit ups

2030
01:36:50,360 --> 01:36:52,920
Speaker 1: when he was a free agent. He's the guy that

2031
01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:57,280
Speaker 1: that stirred up crocodile tears over a quarterback he'd known

2032
01:36:57,360 --> 01:37:01,439
Speaker 1: for like five months. He's the guy that was thrown

2033
01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:04,519
Speaker 1: out of an organization who drafted him so high and

2034
01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:07,280
Speaker 1: who'd given him so much, who threw him out because

2035
01:37:07,360 --> 01:37:10,960
Speaker 1: he was such a cancerous teammate they didn't want him around.

2036
01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:14,160
Speaker 1: He was a second round draft pick. He wasn't. He

2037
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:17,120
Speaker 1: was also a cancer. He was a first round cancer.

2038
01:37:18,640 --> 01:37:21,240
Speaker 1: He was a Hall of Fame cancer in the locker room.

2039
01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:25,479
Speaker 1: He was a bad teammate. Yeah, well it doesn't. He

2040
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:27,680
Speaker 1: shouldn't be held out of the Hall of Fame. He's not.

2041
01:37:27,960 --> 01:37:30,759
Speaker 1: He was not. He's in. He's the one holding himself

2042
01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:33,040
Speaker 1: out in Now he's in. But he should have been

2043
01:37:33,080 --> 01:37:35,559
Speaker 1: in on this first bat. And there's five hundred other guys, well,

2044
01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:37,760
Speaker 1: not five, there's fifty other guys who were held out

2045
01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:39,640
Speaker 1: for a number of years who should have been in too.

2046
01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:42,000
Speaker 1: In fact, all of them who weren't Hall of Fame

2047
01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:45,479
Speaker 1: in first battle Hall of Famers, they got held out too.

2048
01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:49,599
Speaker 1: Why is he special? Why is he special? Thanks, Anthony,

2049
01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:51,280
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break for the top of the hour.

2050
01:37:51,479 --> 01:37:53,920
Speaker 1: It is One Bill's line from One Bill's Drive in

2051
01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:57,439
Speaker 1: and Lorenzo Alexander coming up next. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

2052
01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:13,800
Speaker 1: Hello Hills Radio Network Stories update. The update from One

2053
01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:16,040
Speaker 1: Bill's Driver where the Buffalo Bills had finished another day

2054
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:19,760
Speaker 1: of OTA's Organized team activity. That session number nine one

2055
01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:22,960
Speaker 1: more OTA that is tomorrow, and then mandatory minicamp starts

2056
01:38:23,240 --> 01:38:25,760
Speaker 1: next Tuesday. Three days of mandatory minicamp for the Bills,

2057
01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:28,280
Speaker 1: and then they're off for about five weeks until training

2058
01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:31,280
Speaker 1: camp begins. Former Bills wide receiver Terrell Owens making news

2059
01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:35,360
Speaker 1: today he has publicly declined his invitation to attend the

2060
01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:38,519
Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame induction ceremony in Kent, Ohio,

2061
01:38:38,600 --> 01:38:41,040
Speaker 1: on August fourth. He says he wants to celebrate what

2062
01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:42,880
Speaker 1: will be one of the most memorable days of his

2063
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:45,720
Speaker 1: life elsewhere. He says at a later date he will

2064
01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:49,559
Speaker 1: announce where and when he will celebrate his induction. News

2065
01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:53,519
Speaker 1: from New England, according to ESPN's Adam Schefter, Patriots wide

2066
01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:56,760
Speaker 1: receiver Julian Edelman has been handed a four game suspension

2067
01:38:57,080 --> 01:39:01,200
Speaker 1: for violating the league's performance enhancing substances policy. The suspension

2068
01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:04,599
Speaker 1: under appeal. According to ESPN, Ademan miss olive last year

2069
01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 1: when he tore his atl in August during the Patriots

2070
01:39:07,400 --> 01:39:11,160
Speaker 1: preseason game against Detroit. The Dolphins, giving their players a

2071
01:39:11,200 --> 01:39:13,760
Speaker 1: break from mandatory mini camp, they canceled the final day

2072
01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:16,640
Speaker 1: of mini camp practice today. The Dolphins wrap up their

2073
01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:19,200
Speaker 1: training camp activities next week, with their final days of

2074
01:39:19,640 --> 01:39:23,120
Speaker 1: organized team activities voluntary next week, and the Bottomore Ravens

2075
01:39:23,200 --> 01:39:26,640
Speaker 1: have been forced to cancel their final two OTA practices.

2076
01:39:26,960 --> 01:39:30,240
Speaker 1: John Harbaugh and the Ravens organization has been fine after

2077
01:39:30,360 --> 01:39:33,920
Speaker 1: they were found to have violated collectively bargained rules about

2078
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:38,000
Speaker 1: contact and offseason workout. Stanley Cup Hockey Game five tonight,

2079
01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:40,120
Speaker 1: the Washington Capitals can win the Cup for the first

2080
01:39:40,160 --> 01:39:42,519
Speaker 1: time ever. They play a game at Vegas eight o'clock

2081
01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:45,960
Speaker 1: faceoff tonight. Capitals leads that series three games to one.

2082
01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:50,040
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant on fire last night forty three points with

2083
01:39:50,680 --> 01:39:54,400
Speaker 1: thirteen rebounds and seven assists as the Golden State Warriors

2084
01:39:54,680 --> 01:39:57,000
Speaker 1: handled Cleveland one ten to one oh two to take

2085
01:39:57,040 --> 01:39:59,680
Speaker 1: a commanding three games to none series lead in the

2086
01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:02,120
Speaker 1: A Finals. The Warriors the first team in history to

2087
01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:04,200
Speaker 1: take a three games to them lead in back to

2088
01:40:04,280 --> 01:40:07,519
Speaker 1: back finals, and they'll play a game four tomorrow night.

2089
01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:10,000
Speaker 1: That's the update from One Bill Strife, John Murphy and

2090
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:13,720
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker in studio with our favorite Lorenzo Alexander in

2091
01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:16,080
Speaker 1: studio with us for the next hour or so. Happy

2092
01:40:16,120 --> 01:40:19,000
Speaker 1: to talk about a variety of NFL topics. But Lorenzo,

2093
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Speaker 1: we do have some leftovers from yesterday. We need to look.

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Speaker 1: It was the worst first of all, and Steve verified

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01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:29,080
Speaker 1: this one of our worst Twitter polls ever. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: in my short tenure with the show, it was by

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01:40:32,840 --> 01:40:35,479
Speaker 1: far and away our worst effort at it. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of it had to do with

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Speaker 1: presumptions that people place on the question. I think when

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Speaker 1: people hear somebody going into their contract year, they assume

2101
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Speaker 1: that the reason why they were going to want to

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Speaker 1: play well is the next contract. But that's not what

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01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:51,519
Speaker 1: the question asked at all. It is said, out of

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01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:53,160
Speaker 1: the guys that are going into the last year of

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Speaker 1: their deal, who is going to have the best season

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01:40:55,840 --> 01:41:00,320
Speaker 1: and why not the motivation? So for me it was

2107
01:41:00,360 --> 01:41:02,639
Speaker 1: great because for everybody it's a little bit different. Obviously,

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01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:05,000
Speaker 1: Kelvin Benjamin is going to have a complete season, looking

2109
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Speaker 1: really good right now, healthy, Kyle Williams potentially his last

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01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:10,519
Speaker 1: season so that he may be motivated to go out

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Speaker 1: and ball out and have a great memory as as

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Speaker 1: he leads the Buffalo Bills in the NFL. And then

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Speaker 1: for me being going into my second year of this scheme,

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Speaker 1: the coach is understanding what my skill set is, so

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Speaker 1: maybe I may have a breakout year as well, and

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01:41:22,680 --> 01:41:24,880
Speaker 1: then obviously other players. But I thought it was a

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01:41:24,920 --> 01:41:27,040
Speaker 1: fair question. I think people just always assume, and I

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Speaker 1: think the presumption was wrong by by you on that. Well,

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Speaker 1: when I hear contract gears, I don't want to go

2120
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Speaker 1: deep down this rabbit hole again. But when I hear

2121
01:41:37,160 --> 01:41:39,360
Speaker 1: contract gears, I think, well, that means a guy playing

2122
01:41:39,400 --> 01:41:43,559
Speaker 1: for his next contract. Right, No, that's right, we gotta

2123
01:41:43,560 --> 01:41:45,160
Speaker 1: remember that. Are you in a contract year right now?

2124
01:41:45,320 --> 01:41:47,719
Speaker 1: Am I? Yes? See, that's the thing we got to remember.

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01:41:48,080 --> 01:41:52,439
Speaker 1: We can't last Yon. We can't presume stuff about the question.

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01:41:52,520 --> 01:41:56,160
Speaker 1: We can't presume stuff about the players. What we can

2127
01:41:56,240 --> 01:41:59,600
Speaker 1: presume it was out the situation now that goes be

2128
01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:02,960
Speaker 1: situation is different than Calvin Benjamin it is. But my thing,

2129
01:42:03,080 --> 01:42:04,960
Speaker 1: what the question was is that you just instead of

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01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:06,479
Speaker 1: saying who's going to have the best season out of

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01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:09,960
Speaker 1: all the guys you you had a qualifier, so eliminated

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01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:12,160
Speaker 1: a lot of the team because every obviously everybody's not

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01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:14,040
Speaker 1: going to a contract year. So out of these group

2134
01:42:14,120 --> 01:42:16,800
Speaker 1: of guys, who's going to have the best year? And why.

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01:42:17,479 --> 01:42:19,840
Speaker 1: And I think people like you said, just like I said,

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Speaker 1: they naturally just fall in and you're going to a

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01:42:21,720 --> 01:42:24,439
Speaker 1: contract year. Okay, Well, the only reason why he would

2138
01:42:24,479 --> 01:42:28,280
Speaker 1: play well or play hard, play harder would be to

2139
01:42:28,439 --> 01:42:30,720
Speaker 1: get the next deal, right. I don't think of you

2140
01:42:30,880 --> 01:42:33,360
Speaker 1: like that, I know, but that's I think that presumption

2141
01:42:33,520 --> 01:42:36,800
Speaker 1: is wrong. It is for anybody to have that. That

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01:42:36,880 --> 01:42:39,200
Speaker 1: could be a reason. Maybe that's why some guys, but

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01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:42,080
Speaker 1: for me, the reason would be that's because I'm the

2144
01:42:42,080 --> 01:42:44,360
Speaker 1: second year in the scheme, so that's why I'm going

2145
01:42:44,439 --> 01:42:47,400
Speaker 1: to have a better breakout year in this scheme. Kyle Wis,

2146
01:42:47,439 --> 01:42:50,000
Speaker 1: this's his last year, so not that he hasn't played

2147
01:42:50,040 --> 01:42:51,840
Speaker 1: hard before, but when you know it's your last, you

2148
01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:54,080
Speaker 1: savor in every moment because you know there's not a

2149
01:42:54,520 --> 01:42:56,880
Speaker 1: future for me. It's wrong on a lot of levels. One,

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01:42:57,120 --> 01:43:00,760
Speaker 1: it's strong to think a player would play better or

2151
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:03,240
Speaker 1: worse given the fact that he could earn more whatever.

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01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:06,640
Speaker 1: It's wrong, and it's well, it's wrong, and in a

2153
01:43:06,720 --> 01:43:09,040
Speaker 1: way to think that's the guy doesn't play hard anyway,

2154
01:43:09,479 --> 01:43:13,200
Speaker 1: that's the securate sometimes new question. But that's the other

2155
01:43:13,320 --> 01:43:15,920
Speaker 1: side of this coin. It's wrong of a player to

2156
01:43:16,160 --> 01:43:19,360
Speaker 1: play harder in a contract year, being as how he's

2157
01:43:19,439 --> 01:43:21,560
Speaker 1: already agreed to the contract he's playing on now and

2158
01:43:21,640 --> 01:43:24,479
Speaker 1: should be playing hard for that money. That's wrong. I

2159
01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:26,360
Speaker 1: get what y'all were saying, but I think you guys

2160
01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:31,920
Speaker 1: just are most people went to the what you're talking about.

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01:43:31,960 --> 01:43:34,320
Speaker 1: They're playing harder because they want a new dr and

2162
01:43:34,520 --> 01:43:37,439
Speaker 1: so obviously then you would exclude me and Kyle because

2163
01:43:37,520 --> 01:43:40,280
Speaker 1: we play hard because that's just who we are. And

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01:43:40,360 --> 01:43:42,200
Speaker 1: I get that, but I don't think that was the question.

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01:43:42,240 --> 01:43:45,519
Speaker 1: I actually like Jay's question, and um, you know that's

2166
01:43:45,560 --> 01:43:50,200
Speaker 1: my guy. So I'm always be on the side. Let's see,

2167
01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:52,080
Speaker 1: you can't take sides with your children. He's gotta be

2168
01:43:52,200 --> 01:43:57,240
Speaker 1: you gotta be above all that. So was more like dad,

2169
01:43:57,320 --> 01:44:04,800
Speaker 1: and I mean you're like, you know Grandpa. Then were

2170
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:09,920
Speaker 1: it's getting worse. We're going down the dark hole now,

2171
01:44:10,240 --> 01:44:13,720
Speaker 1: all right, whoa, whoa? All right, let reset this twitterfole.

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01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:19,280
Speaker 1: Well before, let's let's get this. Steve, just TiO a

2173
01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:23,160
Speaker 1: minute ago. Your thoughts on laws not choosing not to

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01:44:23,200 --> 01:44:25,120
Speaker 1: attend the Hall of Fame induction. I mean, does that

2175
01:44:25,160 --> 01:44:28,519
Speaker 1: surprise anybody? I mean it does it's surprising. No, this

2176
01:44:28,680 --> 01:44:30,880
Speaker 1: based on who the guy is. I mean, it's surprising

2177
01:44:30,960 --> 01:44:34,519
Speaker 1: because you're going from it from a respect factor, the legacy,

2178
01:44:34,640 --> 01:44:36,800
Speaker 1: the tradition of the game. I don't think anybody's ever

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01:44:36,840 --> 01:44:39,320
Speaker 1: said they're gonna deny showing up the caton. But when

2180
01:44:39,360 --> 01:44:40,960
Speaker 1: you look at TiO, when I obviously I don't know

2181
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:44,560
Speaker 1: him personally, but looking from through the lens of the

2182
01:44:44,680 --> 01:44:46,760
Speaker 1: media and what he's put out there and how he

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01:44:46,960 --> 01:44:50,120
Speaker 1: has presented himself, it doesn't surprise me that he's going

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01:44:50,240 --> 01:44:52,760
Speaker 1: to separate himself and so I'm gonna have not I'm

2185
01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:55,479
Speaker 1: gonna do my own thing over here. And realistically he

2186
01:44:55,560 --> 01:44:57,679
Speaker 1: could go to this and then fly out immediately after

2187
01:44:57,800 --> 01:45:00,240
Speaker 1: and then still do his own thing. But that's just

2188
01:45:00,360 --> 01:45:01,920
Speaker 1: who he is. He likes to do his own things,

2189
01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:05,080
Speaker 1: separate himself, you know, Prima Donna type of guy, receiver,

2190
01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:07,160
Speaker 1: me me, me, me, throw me the ball, And I

2191
01:45:07,240 --> 01:45:09,479
Speaker 1: mean that's just who he is. So and that's who

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01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:11,439
Speaker 1: he's been out through his whole career, you know, having

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01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:14,360
Speaker 1: a press conference on his lawn. I mean, he just

2194
01:45:14,479 --> 01:45:17,760
Speaker 1: had different things throughout his career that where this is

2195
01:45:17,800 --> 01:45:20,240
Speaker 1: not like, oh wow, I can't believe this, He's doing

2196
01:45:20,280 --> 01:45:22,160
Speaker 1: this in this case. So, and this is my thought,

2197
01:45:22,200 --> 01:45:26,560
Speaker 1: and that he is outwardly disrespecting the rest of the

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01:45:26,600 --> 01:45:28,519
Speaker 1: class of twenty eighteen for the Pro Football Hall of

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01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:31,479
Speaker 1: Fame and essentially every other Hall of Famer he's who's

2200
01:45:31,560 --> 01:45:34,240
Speaker 1: done this, who is you know, put their own personal

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01:45:34,280 --> 01:45:37,120
Speaker 1: agenda on hold for at least half a day and

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01:45:37,240 --> 01:45:40,920
Speaker 1: gone to Kenton right and and participated in the process.

2203
01:45:40,960 --> 01:45:44,120
Speaker 1: I think it's almost unforgivable. Yeah, I completely agree with

2204
01:45:44,200 --> 01:45:46,120
Speaker 1: you on that. I mean, it is disrespectful to the

2205
01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:48,559
Speaker 1: game and to the fans and to the other guys

2206
01:45:48,600 --> 01:45:50,639
Speaker 1: that are being inducted in the in the past guys

2207
01:45:50,680 --> 01:45:52,920
Speaker 1: as well. But like I said, it doesn't surprise me.

2208
01:45:52,960 --> 01:45:55,280
Speaker 1: I don't think it surprises anybody when guys. For me,

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01:45:55,479 --> 01:45:58,439
Speaker 1: you know, when people show me who I know they are,

2210
01:45:58,640 --> 01:46:00,840
Speaker 1: I'm not going to get upset, like, oh my gosh,

2211
01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:03,320
Speaker 1: I mean this, Let him do a thing whatever, that's

2212
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:05,760
Speaker 1: who you are. We understand that, and then just keep

2213
01:46:05,840 --> 01:46:07,679
Speaker 1: on moving. I don't think it should put a damper

2214
01:46:07,720 --> 01:46:10,920
Speaker 1: on anybody else's achievement that happens that day. Anything to

2215
01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:13,760
Speaker 1: an Steve or you shot your wife about fifteen minutes ago,

2216
01:46:14,439 --> 01:46:22,560
Speaker 1: I am. I am speechless with contempt right, and you

2217
01:46:22,600 --> 01:46:24,280
Speaker 1: should be because you should be a guy that should

2218
01:46:24,280 --> 01:46:26,479
Speaker 1: be honest. And so I mean, I mean, I understand

2219
01:46:26,520 --> 01:46:28,880
Speaker 1: that it's not Yeah, it's not about me at all. Well,

2220
01:46:28,920 --> 01:46:33,120
Speaker 1: I know about I know they about the game. You

2221
01:46:33,240 --> 01:46:35,000
Speaker 1: so much, give me, so much you get you know,

2222
01:46:35,280 --> 01:46:37,720
Speaker 1: we're sitting here with Murph and I are still uh

2223
01:46:38,120 --> 01:46:40,320
Speaker 1: making a living off what the NFL has done for

2224
01:46:40,400 --> 01:46:43,040
Speaker 1: us and for everybody else in this building. I got

2225
01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:46,280
Speaker 1: close friends who were inducted into the Pro Football Hall

2226
01:46:46,280 --> 01:46:47,840
Speaker 1: of him. I know what it means to them. It's

2227
01:46:47,880 --> 01:46:50,719
Speaker 1: like it is a gift. It is something they cherish,

2228
01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:53,439
Speaker 1: and it's something they earned. Yeah, and it's something that

2229
01:46:54,040 --> 01:46:56,240
Speaker 1: a lot of why it means so much to them

2230
01:46:56,360 --> 01:46:59,639
Speaker 1: are the guys who are already in there, the guys

2231
01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:02,439
Speaker 1: they grew up watching, the guys they grew up wanting

2232
01:47:02,479 --> 01:47:04,760
Speaker 1: to be like, the guys who set an example for them,

2233
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:08,240
Speaker 1: the guys who taught everybody how great the game could be.

2234
01:47:08,800 --> 01:47:12,599
Speaker 1: And to then to see them being the same boat

2235
01:47:12,680 --> 01:47:17,240
Speaker 1: with a with a guy who doesn't care about any

2236
01:47:17,240 --> 01:47:22,120
Speaker 1: of that, right with you, who could not in this

2237
01:47:22,479 --> 01:47:26,000
Speaker 1: instance unless he would have completely rejected his nomination, and

2238
01:47:26,120 --> 01:47:28,960
Speaker 1: all of that now not only is he gonna take

2239
01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:34,040
Speaker 1: the nomination, he's gonna totally make it about himself, the

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01:47:34,120 --> 01:47:36,560
Speaker 1: whole class, the class, all the guys he's going in

2241
01:47:36,640 --> 01:47:40,360
Speaker 1: with the process that he got into all the world.

2242
01:47:40,400 --> 01:47:42,200
Speaker 1: And we've taken some calls about people saying, well, he

2243
01:47:42,240 --> 01:47:46,679
Speaker 1: didn't get into his first ballot, so he should be angry, please, right, please,

2244
01:47:47,160 --> 01:47:49,240
Speaker 1: Like there isn't fifty other guys that have done through

2245
01:47:49,280 --> 01:47:50,760
Speaker 1: that and they they should have been on the first

2246
01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:55,640
Speaker 1: ballot hall of him. So it's it's you know, and

2247
01:47:55,800 --> 01:47:57,880
Speaker 1: I think, and it's just me. I'm I'm just now,

2248
01:47:57,880 --> 01:48:01,439
Speaker 1: I'm just some radio schmuck. You know, there's you're gonna hear.

2249
01:48:01,640 --> 01:48:04,120
Speaker 1: There's got to be a huge level of if I'm

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01:48:04,200 --> 01:48:07,200
Speaker 1: this full of contempt, I know that guys who are

2251
01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:09,040
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame are gonna be full of contempt.

2252
01:48:10,240 --> 01:48:12,519
Speaker 1: And certainly some people that are affiliated with it, we're

2253
01:48:12,560 --> 01:48:14,479
Speaker 1: gonna hear. I'm sure we're gonna hear from it. It's

2254
01:48:14,479 --> 01:48:16,280
Speaker 1: gonna be all over Twitter, it'll be all over the news.

2255
01:48:16,320 --> 01:48:18,479
Speaker 1: It'll be a lead story, which is what Teo I

2256
01:48:18,520 --> 01:48:22,040
Speaker 1: think probably wanted to make some money off of it.

2257
01:48:22,360 --> 01:48:24,600
Speaker 1: Well that was my thing. Yeah, his party's gonna be

2258
01:48:24,640 --> 01:48:28,920
Speaker 1: trademark mark, it'll be covered by the media. Uh, it'll

2259
01:48:28,960 --> 01:48:32,600
Speaker 1: probably be a ten dollars beers you know, uh, you

2260
01:48:32,680 --> 01:48:39,520
Speaker 1: know craft beers. So yeah, that to me is distasteful

2261
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:44,320
Speaker 1: and it bums me out too. Yeah, So I what

2262
01:48:44,439 --> 01:48:48,640
Speaker 1: can I do? I let's take a few calls on this,

2263
01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:51,880
Speaker 1: people thought. I'm sure, go ahead, I'm sure people are

2264
01:48:52,160 --> 01:48:54,320
Speaker 1: can you people here? All right? You're a girl hooked up?

2265
01:48:54,400 --> 01:48:56,320
Speaker 1: Here is a penny and Ken Moore. Go ahead, panty,

2266
01:48:56,360 --> 01:48:59,759
Speaker 1: you're on the air. Hi, guys, I'm just kind of wondering,

2267
01:49:00,320 --> 01:49:03,160
Speaker 1: if we all feel this way about Terrell, why are

2268
01:49:03,200 --> 01:49:05,600
Speaker 1: we giving him a platform. This is exactly what this

2269
01:49:05,720 --> 01:49:08,240
Speaker 1: guy wants and then it's all shifted to him, and

2270
01:49:08,360 --> 01:49:10,760
Speaker 1: you really should be giving the platform to the guys

2271
01:49:10,760 --> 01:49:13,519
Speaker 1: who works so hard to get into Canton. I mean,

2272
01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:16,439
Speaker 1: that is a big deal. Well, let's shy away from

2273
01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:19,880
Speaker 1: him and go to the good guys. I'll tell you why, Patty.

2274
01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:22,680
Speaker 1: Here's my take on that, and I've said it from

2275
01:49:22,720 --> 01:49:24,560
Speaker 1: the beginning of the show, and you may agree with

2276
01:49:24,640 --> 01:49:28,480
Speaker 1: me or not. The kind of person you are matters everywhere,

2277
01:49:28,600 --> 01:49:31,120
Speaker 1: every time, every place, Everything that you do, the kind

2278
01:49:31,200 --> 01:49:33,639
Speaker 1: of person you are matters, and when Terrell Owens pull

2279
01:49:33,720 --> 01:49:37,439
Speaker 1: stunts like this, there should be dire consequences. And it

2280
01:49:37,479 --> 01:49:40,600
Speaker 1: shouldn't be just me as a radio guy standing up

2281
01:49:40,640 --> 01:49:43,600
Speaker 1: and saying that is wrong. It should be everybody, And

2282
01:49:43,680 --> 01:49:47,240
Speaker 1: there should be consequences for the disrespect of a public

2283
01:49:47,320 --> 01:49:50,000
Speaker 1: institution that we all know and love and respect ourselves.

2284
01:49:50,080 --> 01:49:53,760
Speaker 1: When somebody decides to do that, there should be consequences.

2285
01:49:53,880 --> 01:49:58,840
Speaker 1: And I feel I'm part of the consequences, and there

2286
01:49:58,840 --> 01:50:01,479
Speaker 1: should have been consequences. When you could see the writing

2287
01:50:01,520 --> 01:50:03,639
Speaker 1: on the wall with this guy, they should have shut

2288
01:50:03,760 --> 01:50:06,840
Speaker 1: him down right away. Nobody there was no writing on

2289
01:50:06,920 --> 01:50:08,960
Speaker 1: the wall. Nobody's ever done this before, Patty. What do

2290
01:50:09,040 --> 01:50:11,880
Speaker 1: you mean, Oh yeah, there's been a lot of players

2291
01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:14,240
Speaker 1: out there that want to want to be the guy

2292
01:50:14,360 --> 01:50:16,960
Speaker 1: want to be nobody's ever declined to go to their

2293
01:50:17,080 --> 01:50:18,960
Speaker 1: own induction in the profoo BA Hall of Fame. I

2294
01:50:18,960 --> 01:50:22,479
Speaker 1: don't think that's ever happened. Yeah. So, now now you've

2295
01:50:22,520 --> 01:50:24,320
Speaker 1: got this guy doing it, But yet you're putting a

2296
01:50:24,360 --> 01:50:27,040
Speaker 1: spotlight in him. What about the other guys? I mean,

2297
01:50:27,120 --> 01:50:30,439
Speaker 1: you're spending all this time and effort that of the

2298
01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:33,479
Speaker 1: stuff that he did is on him. Not on anybody else.

2299
01:50:33,560 --> 01:50:36,080
Speaker 1: That's right question. But here's the thing, Patty. Part of

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01:50:36,160 --> 01:50:38,320
Speaker 1: the part of the consequences for the stuff that he

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01:50:38,479 --> 01:50:42,680
Speaker 1: pulled is public humiliation. He correct, and I mean, I

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01:50:42,760 --> 01:50:44,479
Speaker 1: think at some point we do have to talk about

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01:50:44,520 --> 01:50:46,519
Speaker 1: this end point him out, like Steve is saying, because

2304
01:50:46,560 --> 01:50:48,519
Speaker 1: you don't want other people thinking that this is okay,

2305
01:50:48,640 --> 01:50:51,200
Speaker 1: especially if young athletes coming up. It can't become the

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01:50:51,320 --> 01:50:53,680
Speaker 1: north right, So people have to address it. He's not

2307
01:50:53,760 --> 01:50:56,160
Speaker 1: gonna not gonna talk about this two and three weeks

2308
01:50:56,240 --> 01:50:58,680
Speaker 1: and it carries on. But today he needs to be

2309
01:50:59,080 --> 01:51:02,960
Speaker 1: called out, pointed out, and young athletes need to understand it.

2310
01:51:03,840 --> 01:51:07,479
Speaker 1: Right of not disrespecting the game, and it's not about you.

2311
01:51:07,720 --> 01:51:10,960
Speaker 1: It's absolutely wrong. It's the wrong thing to do. And

2312
01:51:11,080 --> 01:51:13,200
Speaker 1: there and listen, you can say, hey, he's trying to

2313
01:51:13,240 --> 01:51:15,160
Speaker 1: get attention and he doesn't care if it's good or

2314
01:51:15,200 --> 01:51:18,240
Speaker 1: bad attention. Listen, it's gonna be bad attention, there's no

2315
01:51:18,400 --> 01:51:20,640
Speaker 1: doubt about it. And it's gonna it's gonna follow him

2316
01:51:20,720 --> 01:51:23,479
Speaker 1: around and it's gonna be part of his legacy. And

2317
01:51:23,640 --> 01:51:26,240
Speaker 1: that's the way he's gonna be remembered. And it's up

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01:51:26,280 --> 01:51:28,640
Speaker 1: to the people who do respect the game, and do

2319
01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:31,320
Speaker 1: have friends and family who love and respect the game,

2320
01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:33,400
Speaker 1: who have friends and family who are in the Hall

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01:51:33,439 --> 01:51:35,160
Speaker 1: of Fame. It's up to us to make sure that

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01:51:35,320 --> 01:51:40,240
Speaker 1: guy never forgets how wrong it was for him to

2323
01:51:40,320 --> 01:51:42,400
Speaker 1: do this. Steve, you know Dave Baker, right, David Baker,

2324
01:51:42,479 --> 01:51:44,200
Speaker 1: Big Dave, Pro Football Hall of Fame. I do not

2325
01:51:44,880 --> 01:51:48,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know him. If you've been to the Fame.

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01:51:48,680 --> 01:51:50,800
Speaker 1: I have not met him, but we didn't get a

2327
01:51:50,880 --> 01:51:53,840
Speaker 1: chance to go to when you play when we play

2328
01:51:53,880 --> 01:51:55,720
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame game one year. Dave Baker is

2329
01:51:55,720 --> 01:51:57,320
Speaker 1: a great guy. He used to be the commissioner of

2330
01:51:57,400 --> 01:51:59,320
Speaker 1: Arena Football and that's what I'm in. Years ago, he

2331
01:51:59,360 --> 01:52:01,479
Speaker 1: had a great quote. Really to Patty's point, I want

2332
01:52:01,479 --> 01:52:04,560
Speaker 1: to read that to you, David Baker said. As on

2333
01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:07,800
Speaker 1: Patty's point of not putting the focus of attention on

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01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:10,519
Speaker 1: tarall Owens, Baker says, as we do not want to

2335
01:52:10,600 --> 01:52:13,040
Speaker 1: detract from this great honor being enjoyed by the seven

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01:52:13,120 --> 01:52:15,760
Speaker 1: other members of the Hall of Fame, their family, their friends,

2337
01:52:15,800 --> 01:52:18,000
Speaker 1: and fans. Pro Football Hall of Fame will have no

2338
01:52:18,160 --> 01:52:20,599
Speaker 1: further comment on the decision made by tarall Owens. That's

2339
01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:23,400
Speaker 1: exactly the issue that Patty just brought up, right. I mean,

2340
01:52:23,840 --> 01:52:25,400
Speaker 1: let's put the attention on the guys who want to

2341
01:52:25,400 --> 01:52:27,360
Speaker 1: be there. And that's what David Baker says. I think

2342
01:52:27,400 --> 01:52:28,720
Speaker 1: he's on there. And I'll tell you what. They owe

2343
01:52:28,760 --> 01:52:30,599
Speaker 1: it to those guys that were They've got a job

2344
01:52:30,640 --> 01:52:32,080
Speaker 1: to do at the Hall of Fame. They've got an

2345
01:52:32,280 --> 01:52:34,880
Speaker 1: entire weekend festival to put on. They've got an event

2346
01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:37,720
Speaker 1: like no other, and it's their job and it's their

2347
01:52:37,880 --> 01:52:42,080
Speaker 1: delight to roll out the red carpet for the people

2348
01:52:42,160 --> 01:52:44,719
Speaker 1: in the National Football League who come in to celebrate

2349
01:52:44,840 --> 01:52:46,880
Speaker 1: these guys that have made helped make the game, and

2350
01:52:46,960 --> 01:52:49,280
Speaker 1: they work on it all year. They work on it hard,

2351
01:52:49,360 --> 01:52:51,519
Speaker 1: and they really take pride in it, and rightfully so

2352
01:52:51,760 --> 01:52:55,479
Speaker 1: it is. It's a tremendous event. And I think that

2353
01:52:55,720 --> 01:52:58,960
Speaker 1: is the exact right tack to take, because to even

2354
01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:02,800
Speaker 1: acknowledge that that is not where you want to be,

2355
01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:05,639
Speaker 1: that somebody else wants to be, it is everything about

2356
01:53:05,680 --> 01:53:08,560
Speaker 1: where everybody else or normal people really do want to be.

2357
01:53:09,000 --> 01:53:12,040
Speaker 1: And that's he's right. David Baker did the exact right

2358
01:53:12,120 --> 01:53:16,720
Speaker 1: thing by saying, listen, it's uh um, it's okay. That's

2359
01:53:16,760 --> 01:53:19,599
Speaker 1: all that we're gonna say about it. Fine, we're focus

2360
01:53:19,720 --> 01:53:21,599
Speaker 1: We're focused on these guys. We got guys we gotta

2361
01:53:21,680 --> 01:53:23,960
Speaker 1: worry about Laurentzo two and a half three hour drive

2362
01:53:24,040 --> 01:53:26,600
Speaker 1: to Canton from here. Get a chance, you would, you

2363
01:53:26,640 --> 01:53:28,240
Speaker 1: would love it more than most. Did you play in

2364
01:53:28,280 --> 01:53:30,080
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame game at all? We idea that

2365
01:53:30,160 --> 01:53:31,800
Speaker 1: I was young, and did they get it? Did you

2366
01:53:31,840 --> 01:53:35,320
Speaker 1: give a credit card with the lifetime pass? No? I

2367
01:53:35,360 --> 01:53:38,200
Speaker 1: think that No, no, No. Early in my career, the

2368
01:53:38,280 --> 01:53:39,760
Speaker 1: first game I ever played in was a Hall of

2369
01:53:39,800 --> 01:53:42,600
Speaker 1: Fame game, and they gave us a credit card that

2370
01:53:42,760 --> 01:53:44,640
Speaker 1: had your name at the Hall of Fame on it,

2371
01:53:44,720 --> 01:53:46,519
Speaker 1: and a name and the year you played in the

2372
01:53:46,560 --> 01:53:48,320
Speaker 1: team you played on it. It's a lifetime pass. You

2373
01:53:48,439 --> 01:53:50,360
Speaker 1: never got one. And every time I go, I forget it.

2374
01:53:52,000 --> 01:53:54,160
Speaker 1: I gotta pay to get in. You think they would

2375
01:53:54,160 --> 01:53:57,040
Speaker 1: have your name is plugged in somewhere. Nope, Nope, you

2376
01:53:57,120 --> 01:53:59,519
Speaker 1: got you gotta pull the card. You've got to play,

2377
01:53:59,720 --> 01:54:03,000
Speaker 1: get it it is. It's worth a call on this

2378
01:54:03,160 --> 01:54:05,519
Speaker 1: issue from Heather and then Gola. Go ahead, Heather, you're

2379
01:54:05,560 --> 01:54:08,599
Speaker 1: on the air. Hey, I was calling about the teo

2380
01:54:08,800 --> 01:54:13,240
Speaker 1: declining the invitation yeah, go ahead. So does anybody know

2381
01:54:13,360 --> 01:54:16,760
Speaker 1: if his grandmother is sick and that might be the

2382
01:54:16,840 --> 01:54:19,599
Speaker 1: reason why he's declining, How does he know August fourth

2383
01:54:19,720 --> 01:54:20,880
Speaker 1: is going to be a day when he can't be

2384
01:54:20,920 --> 01:54:23,639
Speaker 1: away to be at the Hall of Fame. Well, cancer

2385
01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:26,640
Speaker 1: doesn't have a date, right, So how does he know

2386
01:54:26,680 --> 01:54:29,439
Speaker 1: August fourth is the date? Is that accurate? By the way, Heather,

2387
01:54:29,520 --> 01:54:33,680
Speaker 1: do you know that Heather ill Pardon is his grandmother? Ill?

2388
01:54:35,280 --> 01:54:37,120
Speaker 1: I'm asking you, do you guys know that I do

2389
01:54:37,240 --> 01:54:39,040
Speaker 1: not know that? Is that a fact? Is that something

2390
01:54:39,080 --> 01:54:44,400
Speaker 1: that's been reported? And and Heather and Heather, Heather, why

2391
01:54:44,520 --> 01:54:47,080
Speaker 1: would he not make that the point of it instead

2392
01:54:47,080 --> 01:54:50,280
Speaker 1: of making it about himself because it's not anybody's business.

2393
01:54:51,840 --> 01:54:54,080
Speaker 1: It's not telling him that is not doesn't make it

2394
01:54:54,120 --> 01:54:58,880
Speaker 1: anybody's business. Heather, that's not the case. Listen, your friend,

2395
01:54:59,120 --> 01:55:03,400
Speaker 1: my friend, Jim Kelly had tremendous issues with his son. Right,

2396
01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:06,120
Speaker 1: went and Jim went to Canton, Ohio and stood on

2397
01:55:06,160 --> 01:55:08,040
Speaker 1: the stage and honored his son on the Hunter who

2398
01:55:08,080 --> 01:55:10,120
Speaker 1: was sitting in the front row in a wheelchair. Heather,

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01:55:10,200 --> 01:55:12,920
Speaker 1: if if if that's the case, if if if he

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01:55:13,120 --> 01:55:15,680
Speaker 1: knows that the apocalypse is coming, on August fourth and

2401
01:55:15,720 --> 01:55:18,000
Speaker 1: didn't and and we none of us should be there.

2402
01:55:18,080 --> 01:55:19,880
Speaker 1: Then it's on him as well for not in sharing

2403
01:55:19,960 --> 01:55:23,440
Speaker 1: that information as well. So there right now, there is

2404
01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:28,200
Speaker 1: unless he comes out with a really good reason, it's

2405
01:55:28,240 --> 01:55:30,280
Speaker 1: the same old guy. It's an attention grab, it's a

2406
01:55:30,360 --> 01:55:33,400
Speaker 1: money grab, it's a it's a disrespect to the game.

2407
01:55:33,600 --> 01:55:36,360
Speaker 1: Let's if you've got a good reason. There's no a

2408
01:55:36,480 --> 01:55:42,240
Speaker 1: good reason would be worthy of telling everybody otherwise it's

2409
01:55:42,320 --> 01:55:52,120
Speaker 1: not a good reasons. Yeah, listen, there may listen. There

2410
01:55:52,200 --> 01:55:54,360
Speaker 1: may be a really good excuse for not going to

2411
01:55:54,400 --> 01:55:58,440
Speaker 1: your Hall of Fame induction. If it's a really good excuse,

2412
01:55:58,760 --> 01:56:02,680
Speaker 1: it's worth sharing. Dan and Ken Moore, go ahead, Dan,

2413
01:56:02,760 --> 01:56:06,360
Speaker 1: welcome to the show. Yeah, yeah, I got I got

2414
01:56:06,480 --> 01:56:10,200
Speaker 1: t O's really good excuse. What's that he doesn't want

2415
01:56:10,240 --> 01:56:15,240
Speaker 1: to share the stage with Randy Moss? Right, you know?

2416
01:56:15,360 --> 01:56:17,840
Speaker 1: And that's what gets me to the other seven. What

2417
01:56:18,360 --> 01:56:20,800
Speaker 1: is he saying? Is Teo saying I'm better than Randy Moss,

2418
01:56:21,160 --> 01:56:22,640
Speaker 1: So I don't have to be I had a better

2419
01:56:22,720 --> 01:56:26,440
Speaker 1: career than Ray Lewis, I did more than Jerry Kramer,

2420
01:56:26,520 --> 01:56:30,200
Speaker 1: Brian Dawkins, Robert Brazil, Bobby Bethard. No nobody goes into

2421
01:56:30,200 --> 01:56:32,200
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame like that, Brian or Lecker. They

2422
01:56:32,280 --> 01:56:34,480
Speaker 1: go in and talk about how happy they are to

2423
01:56:34,520 --> 01:56:36,240
Speaker 1: be sharing the day with the other guys going in

2424
01:56:36,360 --> 01:56:38,400
Speaker 1: that year, and how happy they are to have the

2425
01:56:38,560 --> 01:56:40,680
Speaker 1: whole two hundred and fifty seven other Hall of famers

2426
01:56:40,760 --> 01:56:42,640
Speaker 1: out there. Part of that really point out other people

2427
01:56:42,640 --> 01:56:44,520
Speaker 1: who helped him throughout the career. I mean, when he

2428
01:56:44,600 --> 01:56:47,560
Speaker 1: really isn't him this his whole thing. He's not gonna

2429
01:56:47,600 --> 01:56:51,080
Speaker 1: share the stage with Randy Moss. Okay, Moss was better

2430
01:56:51,160 --> 01:56:53,640
Speaker 1: than he was. Well, we'll see. But yeah, and I

2431
01:56:53,720 --> 01:56:55,880
Speaker 1: got there's a lot of people you know, tweeting in

2432
01:56:56,040 --> 01:56:58,760
Speaker 1: US than they're on t O side in this. Gotta

2433
01:56:58,800 --> 01:57:01,360
Speaker 1: call it right here, but meat, he says, good for

2434
01:57:01,480 --> 01:57:03,440
Speaker 1: t O. The process of having the media vote for

2435
01:57:03,480 --> 01:57:05,680
Speaker 1: players is a shame. The media tried to give him

2436
01:57:05,720 --> 01:57:08,640
Speaker 1: payback because to was not nicest to the media. Now

2437
01:57:08,720 --> 01:57:11,720
Speaker 1: he's exposing the flawed, an unjustified system. Good for TiO.

2438
01:57:12,080 --> 01:57:14,360
Speaker 1: Jeff Meetri, I think you're wrong. I could not disagree

2439
01:57:14,400 --> 01:57:17,240
Speaker 1: with you more. Bill and Evans, New York has a

2440
01:57:17,320 --> 01:57:21,840
Speaker 1: thought on this bill go ahead today afternoon, Fellas Hi First,

2441
01:57:21,880 --> 01:57:26,000
Speaker 1: I want to see Murphy. I met you at Sony Red's.

2442
01:57:26,440 --> 01:57:29,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Sonny Red's right up the road here a

2443
01:57:29,200 --> 01:57:32,000
Speaker 1: while ago. And um, I want to see on the

2444
01:57:32,080 --> 01:57:36,760
Speaker 1: t o U. I feel you know, my mom always says,

2445
01:57:37,560 --> 01:57:40,520
Speaker 1: never judge a person until you walk in their shoes.

2446
01:57:41,200 --> 01:57:45,880
Speaker 1: And if he has a reason, his reason is what

2447
01:57:46,080 --> 01:57:49,760
Speaker 1: his reason is. Yeah, we shouldn't jump out and just

2448
01:57:49,960 --> 01:57:52,920
Speaker 1: start bashing the guy. Your mom do a sports talk

2449
01:57:53,000 --> 01:57:56,040
Speaker 1: show because because I don't think you can. If you're listen,

2450
01:57:56,240 --> 01:57:59,040
Speaker 1: here's the thing, I'll tell you. You're right. It is

2451
01:57:59,120 --> 01:58:01,720
Speaker 1: his decision. And people are saying, Hey, it's a personal decision.

2452
01:58:01,800 --> 01:58:03,880
Speaker 1: It's his own, it's his decision to make. Hey, it's

2453
01:58:03,920 --> 01:58:09,280
Speaker 1: a public decision. It's a public decision. It is a

2454
01:58:09,520 --> 01:58:14,080
Speaker 1: public public thing. It is not personal, it's public and

2455
01:58:14,240 --> 01:58:17,440
Speaker 1: he made it so when he announced this, my mom

2456
01:58:17,560 --> 01:58:22,920
Speaker 1: had cancer and if I couldn't be there for some reason,

2457
01:58:23,800 --> 01:58:30,120
Speaker 1: that's that's my choice. His thing on the field. All right, listen, Bill,

2458
01:58:30,360 --> 01:58:33,320
Speaker 1: what other reason would there be if it's not cancer? No,

2459
01:58:33,560 --> 01:58:36,440
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, what if it's another reason? What other reason?

2460
01:58:37,240 --> 01:58:42,560
Speaker 1: He played? Bill? Bill? Bill? Bill? What other reason would

2461
01:58:42,600 --> 01:58:44,480
Speaker 1: there be if it wasn't a like a sudden death

2462
01:58:44,520 --> 01:58:46,840
Speaker 1: in the family or a sickness. What reason would there

2463
01:58:46,880 --> 01:58:51,320
Speaker 1: be he might have a sickness. Maybe that's what I said.

2464
01:58:51,400 --> 01:58:53,680
Speaker 1: What if it's not sickness, What if it's not cancer?

2465
01:58:53,800 --> 01:58:56,080
Speaker 1: What if it's Is there any other reason other than cancer?

2466
01:58:56,920 --> 01:59:00,280
Speaker 1: Well I look at it this way, Bill, Is there

2467
01:59:00,480 --> 01:59:04,320
Speaker 1: another reason? Yes? Or no? There's another que there is

2468
01:59:04,360 --> 01:59:09,520
Speaker 1: another reason? What it's his right as an American citizen

2469
01:59:10,120 --> 01:59:12,560
Speaker 1: to do what he wants to do it. Okay, Bill,

2470
01:59:12,600 --> 01:59:14,320
Speaker 1: aren't tell you what. I'll tell you what. Bill, You're right,

2471
01:59:14,360 --> 01:59:15,760
Speaker 1: And you know what else does? And you know what

2472
01:59:15,840 --> 01:59:18,040
Speaker 1: else is the reality of that decision? You know what

2473
01:59:18,160 --> 01:59:22,400
Speaker 1: the reality is, Bill, Bill's Bill, you know the reality.

2474
01:59:22,440 --> 01:59:26,840
Speaker 1: I hope you're listening. There are consequences. There are consequences.

2475
01:59:27,640 --> 01:59:30,520
Speaker 1: There are absolute consequences. When you're a public figure and

2476
01:59:30,600 --> 01:59:33,240
Speaker 1: you make a decision like this, there are consequences, and

2477
01:59:33,360 --> 01:59:36,080
Speaker 1: he canna suffer whatever they are. Maybe they're not. Maybe

2478
01:59:36,120 --> 01:59:37,880
Speaker 1: there's just a couple of guys just maybe it's just me.

2479
01:59:38,320 --> 01:59:40,920
Speaker 1: Maybe me, I'm the only loud voice out there that's

2480
01:59:40,960 --> 01:59:42,680
Speaker 1: calling him on this and say it's a bad idea,

2481
01:59:42,720 --> 01:59:45,120
Speaker 1: it's a it's a bad thing for him to not

2482
01:59:45,280 --> 01:59:47,920
Speaker 1: do this. Maybe I'm the only voice, and I maybe,

2483
01:59:48,520 --> 01:59:50,520
Speaker 1: but those are the only Those are the consequences that

2484
01:59:50,560 --> 01:59:52,160
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to suffer. And if it's just me,

2485
01:59:52,800 --> 01:59:55,920
Speaker 1: what does he care? But I'm telling you this, I'm

2486
01:59:55,960 --> 01:59:57,800
Speaker 1: gonna say it loud and clear. It's the wrong thing

2487
01:59:57,880 --> 02:00:00,800
Speaker 1: to do. It's a bad idea, it's disre respectful, and

2488
02:00:00,960 --> 02:00:04,440
Speaker 1: I believe a guy like him should do it differently.

2489
02:00:05,160 --> 02:00:07,400
Speaker 1: Those are the consequences. You can do all this. You

2490
02:00:07,480 --> 02:00:09,520
Speaker 1: can pull this, you can pull the rights card if

2491
02:00:09,520 --> 02:00:11,840
Speaker 1: you want, the American citizen card all you want, but

2492
02:00:12,000 --> 02:00:15,960
Speaker 1: even American citizens suffer the consequences of their actions, and

2493
02:00:16,320 --> 02:00:18,480
Speaker 1: this is one of those. This is one of those situations.

2494
02:00:18,600 --> 02:00:20,960
Speaker 1: You can exercise every right you want, but there are

2495
02:00:21,040 --> 02:00:26,720
Speaker 1: consequences to it. Yeah, yeah, I'm watching it, man, I can.

2496
02:00:26,800 --> 02:00:28,680
Speaker 1: I can feel the heat. And you know what, I

2497
02:00:28,800 --> 02:00:32,720
Speaker 1: and I and I believe the biggest issue is is

2498
02:00:32,800 --> 02:00:35,720
Speaker 1: that we've seen to over his career. So he showed

2499
02:00:35,840 --> 02:00:37,960
Speaker 1: us who he is. So for me to give him

2500
02:00:38,000 --> 02:00:39,840
Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt would be a going out

2501
02:00:39,880 --> 02:00:42,160
Speaker 1: on the limb. People are saying cancer or something else

2502
02:00:42,760 --> 02:00:44,480
Speaker 1: based on who he is that's not what I'm gonn

2503
02:00:44,520 --> 02:00:46,160
Speaker 1: naturally go to. Now if he did everything right with

2504
02:00:46,280 --> 02:00:48,160
Speaker 1: doing things and then decide, hey, you know, I have

2505
02:00:48,360 --> 02:00:50,240
Speaker 1: some personal issues. I can't come to Canton be and

2506
02:00:50,280 --> 02:00:53,000
Speaker 1: I'd rather do it here. And a person would say

2507
02:00:53,040 --> 02:00:55,840
Speaker 1: that my grandmother is sick and she can't travel to Canton,

2508
02:00:55,840 --> 02:00:57,280
Speaker 1: and I want her to be able to partake, So

2509
02:00:57,320 --> 02:00:59,640
Speaker 1: I want to have it here um and do something

2510
02:00:59,680 --> 02:01:02,240
Speaker 1: with her and make it, make it special. And even

2511
02:01:02,280 --> 02:01:04,200
Speaker 1: if that was the case, he can still fly there

2512
02:01:04,480 --> 02:01:07,080
Speaker 1: and then fly back home. I mean, I don't think

2513
02:01:07,120 --> 02:01:08,600
Speaker 1: it's that hard of a thing to be able to

2514
02:01:08,640 --> 02:01:10,760
Speaker 1: go to do two different events if you want to

2515
02:01:10,800 --> 02:01:14,640
Speaker 1: be inclusive of your family who cannot travel, and actually

2516
02:01:14,680 --> 02:01:17,000
Speaker 1: be there at the actual induction. So there's a way

2517
02:01:17,040 --> 02:01:19,680
Speaker 1: to make this right. And that's why I feel that

2518
02:01:19,960 --> 02:01:23,040
Speaker 1: to is doing this just for himself and not because

2519
02:01:23,240 --> 02:01:26,320
Speaker 1: there's a real excuse or something that's going on in

2520
02:01:26,400 --> 02:01:29,480
Speaker 1: this life that's going to prevent him. Ways in the past,

2521
02:01:29,760 --> 02:01:32,920
Speaker 1: whether they're sick. Yeah, you make it work, you show up.

2522
02:01:33,000 --> 02:01:34,480
Speaker 1: You don't have to be there for everything. Hey say

2523
02:01:34,480 --> 02:01:36,720
Speaker 1: I'm a flying for the induction. Get a private jet,

2524
02:01:36,760 --> 02:01:38,120
Speaker 1: alcan y'all because I want to get back to my

2525
02:01:38,200 --> 02:01:40,680
Speaker 1: grandmother and we have this with her, and they make

2526
02:01:40,760 --> 02:01:43,760
Speaker 1: those things work when you communicate with people, and you don't.

2527
02:01:43,800 --> 02:01:45,480
Speaker 1: You wouldn't even have to make it a public thing.

2528
02:01:45,520 --> 02:01:47,760
Speaker 1: He could just talked to the Hall of Fame committee. Ay,

2529
02:01:47,800 --> 02:01:49,240
Speaker 1: this is what's going on, This is why I need

2530
02:01:49,320 --> 02:01:51,600
Speaker 1: to do. I'm gonna be there, then I gotta I

2531
02:01:51,680 --> 02:01:53,520
Speaker 1: gotta go because I want to make it like this

2532
02:01:53,840 --> 02:01:55,560
Speaker 1: and I think it's the right way of going about

2533
02:01:55,600 --> 02:01:58,240
Speaker 1: doing something. And I think that's the biggest thing. One

2534
02:01:58,320 --> 02:02:00,840
Speaker 1: more question on this for both of you, Steve, you

2535
02:02:00,960 --> 02:02:04,520
Speaker 1: two even you know, I'm a little go ahead. He

2536
02:02:04,720 --> 02:02:06,400
Speaker 1: has made a point over the last couple of weeks

2537
02:02:06,480 --> 02:02:08,560
Speaker 1: talking about wanting to play again, Rumors of him wanting

2538
02:02:08,560 --> 02:02:10,200
Speaker 1: to go to San Francisco and play even at his

2539
02:02:10,280 --> 02:02:13,400
Speaker 1: advanced age. Right, could that at all be a factor

2540
02:02:13,560 --> 02:02:15,640
Speaker 1: here in any way? I mean, I don't know. And

2541
02:02:15,720 --> 02:02:17,760
Speaker 1: if that's and if that's it, he has to leave

2542
02:02:17,880 --> 02:02:20,520
Speaker 1: home depending on what team he's one to work out

2543
02:02:20,560 --> 02:02:22,520
Speaker 1: and stuff. So is he not going to be there

2544
02:02:22,600 --> 02:02:25,200
Speaker 1: for that issue that's going on if he wants to

2545
02:02:25,240 --> 02:02:27,800
Speaker 1: still play? So you say, you can't have it both ways,

2546
02:02:27,880 --> 02:02:30,280
Speaker 1: So that's I mean, and that in itself shows you

2547
02:02:30,360 --> 02:02:34,000
Speaker 1: that it's nothing something serious or something else because you

2548
02:02:34,040 --> 02:02:36,080
Speaker 1: can't go play for a team. You know, the fans

2549
02:02:36,120 --> 02:02:38,200
Speaker 1: are trying to come up with an excuse and then say, well,

2550
02:02:38,720 --> 02:02:41,320
Speaker 1: I can't go to the Hall of Fame induction because

2551
02:02:41,360 --> 02:02:43,600
Speaker 1: of something that maybe happened in his life. Yeah, all right,

2552
02:02:43,600 --> 02:02:45,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna move on to other topics with the Renzo.

2553
02:02:45,600 --> 02:02:47,960
Speaker 1: He's here with this until three o'clock. Come on back.

2554
02:02:48,040 --> 02:02:50,000
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive and this is

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02:02:50,040 --> 02:03:06,600
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to the show, John Murphy,

2556
02:03:06,680 --> 02:03:10,680
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, and Lorenzo Alexander Lorenzo. Big weekend coming up

2557
02:03:10,680 --> 02:03:15,040
Speaker 1: for you, The Aces Foundation Bowling Benefit coming up this Saturday,

2558
02:03:15,360 --> 02:03:18,000
Speaker 1: twelve noon at Striker's Lanes right up the road in

2559
02:03:18,040 --> 02:03:19,880
Speaker 1: West Seneca, right, Yeah, looking forward to. We're gonna have

2560
02:03:19,880 --> 02:03:23,080
Speaker 1: a ton of guys out there, Josh Allen, Tremaine, Admunds,

2561
02:03:24,000 --> 02:03:27,480
Speaker 1: who else is coming to Eddie Yarborough, obviously myself, a

2562
02:03:27,560 --> 02:03:29,320
Speaker 1: lot of the linebackers. So we're gonna have a good

2563
02:03:29,360 --> 02:03:32,880
Speaker 1: group probably ten to twelve guys, rookie, some veterans bowling

2564
02:03:32,960 --> 02:03:36,000
Speaker 1: over there, raising money for the Bell Center in the

2565
02:03:36,040 --> 02:03:38,880
Speaker 1: South Park High School and they'll both have people there

2566
02:03:38,880 --> 02:03:41,920
Speaker 1: as well, represented us from both of those organizations, just

2567
02:03:42,040 --> 02:03:45,520
Speaker 1: trying to help bring awareness, raised funds to give back

2568
02:03:45,560 --> 02:03:48,960
Speaker 1: to those those organizations that are doing great work. I

2569
02:03:49,000 --> 02:03:50,760
Speaker 1: actually had some of the South Park High School young

2570
02:03:50,800 --> 02:03:53,120
Speaker 1: men out here yesterday with Tim Delaney, who does a

2571
02:03:53,160 --> 02:03:55,800
Speaker 1: great job with their football team, doing some linebacker drills

2572
02:03:56,120 --> 02:03:57,960
Speaker 1: over here in the field house yesterday. So it's been

2573
02:03:58,000 --> 02:03:59,800
Speaker 1: a it's more than just me giving money. This is

2574
02:04:00,240 --> 02:04:02,280
Speaker 1: that I'm I've been committed to is with my time

2575
02:04:02,360 --> 02:04:04,960
Speaker 1: as well? Yeah? This is um, it's You've gotten a

2576
02:04:05,000 --> 02:04:07,080
Speaker 1: lot of bowlers saying up right, is there room? Yeah?

2577
02:04:07,760 --> 02:04:09,880
Speaker 1: The last time I checked, we had one lane open,

2578
02:04:10,000 --> 02:04:13,080
Speaker 1: which is can feel six six people? Um. I haven't

2579
02:04:13,160 --> 02:04:14,840
Speaker 1: checked my phone since then, so I don't know if

2580
02:04:14,840 --> 02:04:17,520
Speaker 1: it's full field up or not. If we sell out,

2581
02:04:17,600 --> 02:04:19,360
Speaker 1: you know today or tomorrow, I may open it up

2582
02:04:19,400 --> 02:04:21,440
Speaker 1: to like a spectator because we do have some cool

2583
02:04:21,520 --> 02:04:24,680
Speaker 1: solid option items and raffles that you know, give me

2584
02:04:24,720 --> 02:04:28,280
Speaker 1: a bit on that is the venue closed off? I

2585
02:04:28,320 --> 02:04:29,840
Speaker 1: mean they closed it up. It's closed. I mean we

2586
02:04:29,920 --> 02:04:32,080
Speaker 1: got all twenty four lanes, right, That's what I mean though,

2587
02:04:32,120 --> 02:04:33,880
Speaker 1: but that people can come in and watch and say hi,

2588
02:04:34,040 --> 02:04:36,480
Speaker 1: And well, they can't come in right now because I

2589
02:04:36,520 --> 02:04:38,840
Speaker 1: haven't opened it up to do like spectator price because

2590
02:04:38,840 --> 02:04:41,080
Speaker 1: we are trying to raise money for it. So um,

2591
02:04:41,400 --> 02:04:44,640
Speaker 1: I know people are have asked that M via Twitter

2592
02:04:44,800 --> 02:04:47,000
Speaker 1: and just email whether or not they can just come

2593
02:04:47,040 --> 02:04:50,240
Speaker 1: over and hang out and get autographs As of right now, no,

2594
02:04:50,480 --> 02:04:52,840
Speaker 1: but hopefully we sell out that I'll open it up

2595
02:04:52,840 --> 02:04:55,880
Speaker 1: to that. Okay, Um, do you have any thoughts at all,

2596
02:04:56,040 --> 02:04:58,120
Speaker 1: Reno on this news that came out today Julian Edelman

2597
02:04:58,200 --> 02:05:00,960
Speaker 1: four game suspension? Here's just hard. I mean, it's another

2598
02:05:01,000 --> 02:05:03,920
Speaker 1: story of you know, guys, you know, and I kind

2599
02:05:03,920 --> 02:05:07,240
Speaker 1: of loosely know Julian, Um, you just got to be

2600
02:05:07,280 --> 02:05:09,200
Speaker 1: smart about what you're putting your body. You know, coming

2601
02:05:09,240 --> 02:05:11,600
Speaker 1: off at Andrew, you're trying to do everything right. Supplements,

2602
02:05:12,120 --> 02:05:15,360
Speaker 1: you know, I VS. I VS. Actually the biggest thing

2603
02:05:15,440 --> 02:05:18,240
Speaker 1: now where guys are getting popped, you know, just getting

2604
02:05:18,440 --> 02:05:21,160
Speaker 1: you know, B twelves or whatever they're putting in and

2605
02:05:21,520 --> 02:05:24,240
Speaker 1: you never know what that that pharmacist over there is

2606
02:05:24,600 --> 02:05:28,440
Speaker 1: mixing in that bag for you. You don't never even

2607
02:05:28,480 --> 02:05:31,880
Speaker 1: over the counter supplements, right if if the company's not reputable,

2608
02:05:32,000 --> 02:05:34,840
Speaker 1: and it's not that they're putting anything dangerous. It is mixed,

2609
02:05:34,880 --> 02:05:36,880
Speaker 1: but they yeah, they get they put they mix one

2610
02:05:36,920 --> 02:05:41,120
Speaker 1: thing in the batom where there's trade, right and it

2611
02:05:41,400 --> 02:05:45,720
Speaker 1: and if it shows up at all, Yeah, on a

2612
02:05:45,920 --> 02:05:47,840
Speaker 1: zero tolerance It doesn't mean it's just football players. It

2613
02:05:47,840 --> 02:05:49,840
Speaker 1: could be anybody who gets drug tested for their work

2614
02:05:49,880 --> 02:05:52,400
Speaker 1: in a safety position or you know, like a public

2615
02:05:52,440 --> 02:05:55,880
Speaker 1: safety position or something like that. Exactly, it shows up. Yeah,

2616
02:05:55,880 --> 02:05:57,920
Speaker 1: And it's hard. I mean, as athletes, you're trying to

2617
02:05:57,920 --> 02:06:00,480
Speaker 1: always trying to find the winning edge and and obviously

2618
02:06:00,560 --> 02:06:04,040
Speaker 1: supplements and vitamins and all those things help you, you know,

2619
02:06:04,280 --> 02:06:08,120
Speaker 1: be able to recover faster, build more muscle, faster, stronger, bigger,

2620
02:06:08,240 --> 02:06:11,360
Speaker 1: be able to keep your job obviously coming off of injury,

2621
02:06:11,480 --> 02:06:14,240
Speaker 1: be able to rehab. So you always trying to push

2622
02:06:14,280 --> 02:06:17,200
Speaker 1: the envelope without crossing that line. And sometimes it gets

2623
02:06:17,280 --> 02:06:20,680
Speaker 1: crossed inadvertently just because you don't know, or somebody mixing

2624
02:06:20,760 --> 02:06:22,840
Speaker 1: something and you and they put it in there and

2625
02:06:23,040 --> 02:06:25,400
Speaker 1: they didn't know that you couldn't take it because and

2626
02:06:25,480 --> 02:06:27,560
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you're responsible. Even if

2627
02:06:27,760 --> 02:06:30,760
Speaker 1: even if the bottle says then this is good and

2628
02:06:30,880 --> 02:06:33,880
Speaker 1: you ask, you call the the NFL, called the PA

2629
02:06:34,040 --> 02:06:36,080
Speaker 1: and they say, yeah, that's a good product. If you

2630
02:06:36,200 --> 02:06:38,480
Speaker 1: take it, and it's and it's tainted with something, you're

2631
02:06:38,520 --> 02:06:41,320
Speaker 1: still liable. Yeah, So it's you know, it's you're always

2632
02:06:41,360 --> 02:06:43,360
Speaker 1: taking a risk. And I'm a guy that takes vitamins

2633
02:06:43,360 --> 02:06:46,600
Speaker 1: and supplements and so at some level, yeah, you're taking

2634
02:06:46,640 --> 02:06:48,200
Speaker 1: you're taking a risk every time you put something in

2635
02:06:48,240 --> 02:06:50,640
Speaker 1: your body. The real thought that you're trying to maintain

2636
02:06:50,720 --> 02:06:52,920
Speaker 1: a body weight while you're working really hard, and for

2637
02:06:52,920 --> 02:06:54,280
Speaker 1: a lot of people it's like, wow, I wish, I

2638
02:06:54,520 --> 02:06:56,520
Speaker 1: wish I could lose weight. Well, for football players are

2639
02:06:56,640 --> 02:06:58,240
Speaker 1: training camp and all that, it's hard to keep it

2640
02:06:58,320 --> 02:07:01,080
Speaker 1: weight on. Yeah, because you're you're like a blast furnace.

2641
02:07:01,080 --> 02:07:03,400
Speaker 1: I mean, then whatever your right trying to do that,

2642
02:07:03,560 --> 02:07:05,160
Speaker 1: maintain it And the biggest thing for us is just

2643
02:07:05,280 --> 02:07:07,520
Speaker 1: recovery so you can wake up and go over and

2644
02:07:07,640 --> 02:07:10,280
Speaker 1: do do what you just did again at a high level.

2645
02:07:11,680 --> 02:07:14,200
Speaker 1: Joe Um, your thoughts on the NBA Finals going the way?

2646
02:07:14,320 --> 02:07:16,320
Speaker 1: Would hope? Yeah, Oh yeah, it's going the way. I hope,

2647
02:07:16,640 --> 02:07:18,400
Speaker 1: you know, And I don't want to say this because

2648
02:07:18,400 --> 02:07:20,840
Speaker 1: I don't want Cleveland to get on a role. But

2649
02:07:21,000 --> 02:07:24,200
Speaker 1: I hope they may win one game and then we

2650
02:07:24,360 --> 02:07:26,520
Speaker 1: go back to Oakland because I'm going to Oakland June

2651
02:07:26,560 --> 02:07:27,960
Speaker 1: twenty third, so I want to be a part of

2652
02:07:28,000 --> 02:07:29,640
Speaker 1: the parade. So if I can get back in the

2653
02:07:29,760 --> 02:07:33,720
Speaker 1: area to where I can go check it out of

2654
02:07:33,760 --> 02:07:36,440
Speaker 1: yourself in the parade. Yeah, I'm trying to get to

2655
02:07:36,520 --> 02:07:39,400
Speaker 1: the parade possibly, you know. I mean, it just is

2656
02:07:39,440 --> 02:07:41,280
Speaker 1: what it is. I mean, obviously, the Wars are up

2657
02:07:41,320 --> 02:07:44,120
Speaker 1: three old. You got you're so confident you're hoping Cleveland

2658
02:07:44,160 --> 02:07:46,680
Speaker 1: wins a game, so they can happen on a day

2659
02:07:46,720 --> 02:07:49,000
Speaker 1: when you're gonna be in there. I've seen everything. We've

2660
02:07:49,000 --> 02:07:51,560
Speaker 1: seen Lebron go for fifty, they lose. We've seen Lebron

2661
02:07:51,680 --> 02:07:54,000
Speaker 1: go for thirty and get everybody involved and they lose.

2662
02:07:54,080 --> 02:07:57,560
Speaker 1: We've seen Clay and Staff have a horrible shooting night

2663
02:07:58,000 --> 02:08:00,840
Speaker 1: and they lose, and you know, and Cleveland loop, they

2664
02:08:00,880 --> 02:08:03,120
Speaker 1: just they just they're not good enough. They're just not

2665
02:08:03,240 --> 02:08:05,840
Speaker 1: good enough. It doesn't matter what happens. That the Wars

2666
02:08:05,840 --> 02:08:08,560
Speaker 1: are too good of a team, too deep, and they

2667
02:08:08,720 --> 02:08:13,320
Speaker 1: just you're right, they have they have answers for everything.

2668
02:08:13,640 --> 02:08:15,600
Speaker 1: Like you said, if Korea is an off thine, Okay,

2669
02:08:15,640 --> 02:08:17,800
Speaker 1: we'll do something else, kybe. I mean it's just crazy.

2670
02:08:17,880 --> 02:08:19,680
Speaker 1: Even and even in the beginning of the game. You

2671
02:08:19,760 --> 02:08:22,280
Speaker 1: watch it, man, they Cleveland came out fast. They're up,

2672
02:08:22,400 --> 02:08:23,920
Speaker 1: you know, ten to twelve. At the end of the

2673
02:08:23,960 --> 02:08:26,960
Speaker 1: first quarter, it was twenty nine twenty eight. You know Cleveland.

2674
02:08:27,080 --> 02:08:29,160
Speaker 1: Oh they got Cleveland goes on another run, they back

2675
02:08:29,240 --> 02:08:32,120
Speaker 1: up ten to thirteen. Well they only you know, ward

2676
02:08:32,200 --> 02:08:34,360
Speaker 1: it down by six at half, and then the third

2677
02:08:34,440 --> 02:08:38,240
Speaker 1: quarter they just overtake over. We're showing the highlight of

2678
02:08:38,400 --> 02:08:42,560
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant hitting a twenty six foot smooth he was

2679
02:08:42,640 --> 02:08:45,600
Speaker 1: on his own last night, just a twenty foot twenty.

2680
02:08:45,720 --> 02:08:48,400
Speaker 1: It's from twenty six feet. I mean, he just goes up,

2681
02:08:48,480 --> 02:08:50,840
Speaker 1: just hits the gist little jumper like it's like it's

2682
02:08:50,920 --> 02:08:53,720
Speaker 1: side like it's five feet you've been hanging out with

2683
02:08:53,760 --> 02:08:56,120
Speaker 1: steph and it goes bang to the bottom at the end,

2684
02:08:56,360 --> 02:08:58,560
Speaker 1: like with forty nine point eight seconds left, and the

2685
02:08:58,600 --> 02:09:00,920
Speaker 1: fourth puts him up by six and games virtually over,

2686
02:09:01,880 --> 02:09:04,400
Speaker 1: and he just walks off like, yeah, that's it. That's

2687
02:09:04,440 --> 02:09:06,680
Speaker 1: what he does. And he did it last year. I'm

2688
02:09:06,680 --> 02:09:08,840
Speaker 1: telling you what they took Cleveland's best shot last night

2689
02:09:08,880 --> 02:09:11,360
Speaker 1: and one by ten, you know what I'm saying, And

2690
02:09:11,480 --> 02:09:14,240
Speaker 1: we shot bad well, And you can say that Game

2691
02:09:14,320 --> 02:09:16,520
Speaker 1: one got away from Cleveland, because Cleveland really did hit

2692
02:09:16,600 --> 02:09:17,800
Speaker 1: him in the mouth and they came out and they

2693
02:09:18,160 --> 02:09:20,760
Speaker 1: really earned that win. But even so, I don't know

2694
02:09:20,880 --> 02:09:23,160
Speaker 1: that that. You can always say two early in the game,

2695
02:09:23,240 --> 02:09:25,520
Speaker 1: early in the series. Maybe that one game gives him

2696
02:09:25,520 --> 02:09:27,840
Speaker 1: a little momentum now they can carry. I wouldn't have

2697
02:09:27,840 --> 02:09:30,040
Speaker 1: been enough, No, it wouldn't have been. And they shot

2698
02:09:30,160 --> 02:09:32,720
Speaker 1: lights out. Cleveland shot lights out. Everybody was hitting. I

2699
02:09:32,760 --> 02:09:35,040
Speaker 1: mean they shot fifty percent from the floor, which they

2700
02:09:35,080 --> 02:09:37,440
Speaker 1: don't do that game last night. For the first time,

2701
02:09:37,480 --> 02:09:39,120
Speaker 1: I kind of realized that, you know what, even if

2702
02:09:39,200 --> 02:09:43,120
Speaker 1: game one goes that way and I mursh said it

2703
02:09:43,160 --> 02:09:44,880
Speaker 1: was gonna go seven, I said it was gonna go six,

2704
02:09:45,760 --> 02:09:49,960
Speaker 1: it ain't. No, it may go five, it may go five. Yeah,

2705
02:09:50,000 --> 02:09:51,360
Speaker 1: so I can go to the parade. But it looks

2706
02:09:51,400 --> 02:09:53,880
Speaker 1: like it's gonna but it looks like it's Is there

2707
02:09:53,920 --> 02:09:56,800
Speaker 1: a date for the parade yet? No, I'm just I

2708
02:09:56,880 --> 02:10:01,200
Speaker 1: just out the closer. This just end. They haven't won yet,

2709
02:10:01,280 --> 02:10:03,520
Speaker 1: they haven't tended a date. I'm pretty sure they have

2710
02:10:03,560 --> 02:10:06,240
Speaker 1: attended a day. Yeah, they're starting, they're starting to circle.

2711
02:10:06,280 --> 02:10:09,240
Speaker 1: It's gonna probably be next week sometimes. You know, they've

2712
02:10:09,280 --> 02:10:12,040
Speaker 1: got some dates penciled in. They got a circled in

2713
02:10:12,080 --> 02:10:15,400
Speaker 1: pencil in Oakland. Yeah, the last couple of years they

2714
02:10:15,480 --> 02:10:17,080
Speaker 1: to go around Lake Merritt. I mean that's where the

2715
02:10:17,120 --> 02:10:18,880
Speaker 1: warriors are. I know a lot of people think San

2716
02:10:18,880 --> 02:10:21,440
Speaker 1: Francisco because that's what they always show. But we're in

2717
02:10:21,600 --> 02:10:24,360
Speaker 1: they're in Oakland. Yeah, when the uniforms saved the city,

2718
02:10:25,320 --> 02:10:27,960
Speaker 1: they're talking about San Francisco, not Oakland though, right, I

2719
02:10:28,040 --> 02:10:30,160
Speaker 1: remember that from the sixties. Well, they got the Golden

2720
02:10:30,240 --> 02:10:32,240
Speaker 1: Gate Bridge on it, that the Golden Gator. Is that

2721
02:10:32,360 --> 02:10:35,080
Speaker 1: the other bridge? No, it's no, it's got the it's

2722
02:10:35,080 --> 02:10:39,360
Speaker 1: the Golden Gate San Francisco. That's OK. But they're in Oakland.

2723
02:10:39,760 --> 02:10:42,000
Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, this is the emblem. That's a that's

2724
02:10:42,000 --> 02:10:45,120
Speaker 1: a sign. Golden Gate Bridge goes the Scelito. It doesn't

2725
02:10:45,120 --> 02:10:47,800
Speaker 1: even go to the Oakland. It's the Bay Bridge. And

2726
02:10:47,880 --> 02:10:49,720
Speaker 1: they've got now the Bay Bridge looks good too. They

2727
02:10:49,840 --> 02:10:52,960
Speaker 1: refurbished that. Yeah. I don't even know what side that

2728
02:10:53,080 --> 02:10:54,800
Speaker 1: it is the west side of the bridge. It's the

2729
02:10:55,200 --> 02:10:57,520
Speaker 1: and the New. Yeah, both sides. Actually, yeah, yeah, the

2730
02:10:57,560 --> 02:10:59,800
Speaker 1: east side is new and when it goes in Oakland,

2731
02:11:00,200 --> 02:11:02,200
Speaker 1: it's from San Francisco come to Oakland. They go to

2732
02:11:02,400 --> 02:11:05,160
Speaker 1: Warriors games. I mean, yeah, yeah, they do. Yeah. I

2733
02:11:05,200 --> 02:11:07,480
Speaker 1: don't know if the reverse world happened, though, you're making

2734
02:11:07,520 --> 02:11:10,040
Speaker 1: it sound like it's and I mean to be honest,

2735
02:11:10,080 --> 02:11:11,640
Speaker 1: and that's where all the money is in the city.

2736
02:11:11,680 --> 02:11:14,000
Speaker 1: And if you can't even buy a ticket right now,

2737
02:11:14,240 --> 02:11:15,920
Speaker 1: if you live in Oakland, I mean just a lower

2738
02:11:16,000 --> 02:11:18,840
Speaker 1: income type of town. That's my point. That crowd it

2739
02:11:18,880 --> 02:11:21,320
Speaker 1: looks like in San Francisco group, well, I wouldn't call

2740
02:11:21,360 --> 02:11:25,000
Speaker 1: it at all. People down low they are. I mean

2741
02:11:25,080 --> 02:11:27,440
Speaker 1: it's because of the money that costs to go to

2742
02:11:27,520 --> 02:11:29,480
Speaker 1: a game. By yeah, it's kind of priced out of

2743
02:11:29,720 --> 02:11:33,880
Speaker 1: some of the you know it is, they've kind of

2744
02:11:33,880 --> 02:11:37,040
Speaker 1: priced them out because, I mean, the tickets are crazy expense.

2745
02:11:37,080 --> 02:11:39,520
Speaker 1: I remember going to games growing up. You would get

2746
02:11:39,560 --> 02:11:41,840
Speaker 1: a family pack, you know, for four and hot dogs

2747
02:11:41,880 --> 02:11:44,200
Speaker 1: and all that inclusive four hundred bucks. You ain't getting

2748
02:11:44,240 --> 02:11:47,120
Speaker 1: nowhere near that to a Warrior's game. One. Oh yeah.

2749
02:11:48,840 --> 02:11:51,480
Speaker 1: I remember going to Buffalo Braves NBA games when I

2750
02:11:51,600 --> 02:11:54,680
Speaker 1: was high school college. You get you get a Wentz

2751
02:11:55,080 --> 02:11:58,240
Speaker 1: Dairy milk carton, cut out the coopon on the back,

2752
02:11:58,520 --> 02:12:00,400
Speaker 1: take that in five dollars and get the building to

2753
02:12:00,480 --> 02:12:02,160
Speaker 1: watch the NBA. So yeah, you got a long time

2754
02:12:02,440 --> 02:12:08,000
Speaker 1: right by years. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean that's

2755
02:12:08,160 --> 02:12:10,320
Speaker 1: I love the prince. You're changed. And plus you got

2756
02:12:10,360 --> 02:12:13,120
Speaker 1: the secondary market now with people who have the tickets

2757
02:12:13,160 --> 02:12:16,120
Speaker 1: who are right, you know, actual game or whatever. But

2758
02:12:16,160 --> 02:12:17,800
Speaker 1: I think is it next year? Either next year or

2759
02:12:17,800 --> 02:12:20,080
Speaker 1: the year after that, they are moving to San Francisco.

2760
02:12:20,560 --> 02:12:25,240
Speaker 1: They did build a new stadium form over there, and

2761
02:12:25,280 --> 02:12:27,880
Speaker 1: what's it called the Oracle. The Oracle was right next

2762
02:12:27,880 --> 02:12:30,360
Speaker 1: to Oakland. I don't need a coliseum. Yeah, all that's

2763
02:12:30,400 --> 02:12:33,280
Speaker 1: in the sand just south of I think it's just

2764
02:12:33,480 --> 02:12:36,360
Speaker 1: south of of Oakland's downtown about three four or five

2765
02:12:36,400 --> 02:12:40,320
Speaker 1: miles and it's right on the bay. Yeah, and it's yeah.

2766
02:12:40,360 --> 02:12:42,800
Speaker 1: And then now they're moving. They got a new place, yeah,

2767
02:12:42,840 --> 02:12:45,040
Speaker 1: over to San Francisco. Did you like playing for the

2768
02:12:45,120 --> 02:12:47,200
Speaker 1: Raiders when you played there? I enjoyed it, I thought,

2769
02:12:47,360 --> 02:12:48,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I got away for your hometown. No. I

2770
02:12:48,960 --> 02:12:50,640
Speaker 1: thought it was good because I was older. I wouldn't

2771
02:12:50,640 --> 02:12:52,960
Speaker 1: have liked to coming right out of college just because

2772
02:12:53,000 --> 02:12:54,600
Speaker 1: of the friends and the people that would have been

2773
02:12:54,680 --> 02:12:57,040
Speaker 1: hanging on trying to get stuff. But once I moved

2774
02:12:57,080 --> 02:12:59,040
Speaker 1: away and got my family, a lot of those people

2775
02:12:59,160 --> 02:13:02,160
Speaker 1: kind of appeared, and now I had my group. So

2776
02:13:02,200 --> 02:13:04,160
Speaker 1: it's just my mom and my close falls that would

2777
02:13:04,160 --> 02:13:05,720
Speaker 1: come to the game. So it was real smooth. And

2778
02:13:05,760 --> 02:13:08,320
Speaker 1: then I was mature enough to say no, no, you can't,

2779
02:13:08,400 --> 02:13:11,000
Speaker 1: no ticket, you got some money, no, or no, you

2780
02:13:11,120 --> 02:13:14,880
Speaker 1: go buy your own, right, you know, and when fine,

2781
02:13:14,960 --> 02:13:17,120
Speaker 1: I'm fine. I don't know how they feelings were, but

2782
02:13:17,240 --> 02:13:20,120
Speaker 1: I know what I was good with. Everybody thinks it's

2783
02:13:20,160 --> 02:13:22,600
Speaker 1: free tickets all the time for the athletes. That ain't right.

2784
02:13:22,640 --> 02:13:23,960
Speaker 1: You pay for it. It's only a couple of people

2785
02:13:23,960 --> 02:13:26,400
Speaker 1: that's getting free. That's my mom and my uncle and

2786
02:13:26,520 --> 02:13:28,960
Speaker 1: my dad. And here's the thing too, here's the thing.

2787
02:13:29,040 --> 02:13:35,160
Speaker 1: You nobody gets free tickets, nobody, but you get act

2788
02:13:35,240 --> 02:13:37,400
Speaker 1: you can have Like if there's tickets, you can get them, yeah,

2789
02:13:37,760 --> 02:13:40,040
Speaker 1: but you gotta pay for them whatever the going rate is.

2790
02:13:40,160 --> 02:13:41,920
Speaker 1: So you can get them, but you you gotta pay

2791
02:13:41,960 --> 02:13:44,720
Speaker 1: it for him. Yeah. And that's the only end that

2792
02:13:46,280 --> 02:13:48,880
Speaker 1: the players have. Players can get tickets if they want.

2793
02:13:49,000 --> 02:13:51,640
Speaker 1: People I need to I'll pay for it, and I'm

2794
02:13:51,680 --> 02:13:57,560
Speaker 1: sitting there in the Yeah, it happens, and it does.

2795
02:13:57,600 --> 02:13:59,640
Speaker 1: It's not just you and me and players. It's like

2796
02:14:00,040 --> 02:14:03,400
Speaker 1: you know, the you know, the office workers series, all

2797
02:14:03,440 --> 02:14:06,360
Speaker 1: the people in pr they all get nailed for tickets.

2798
02:14:06,440 --> 02:14:08,400
Speaker 1: I got their families calling them for tickets too, right,

2799
02:14:08,440 --> 02:14:09,920
Speaker 1: all the time. I went on the ticket thing, and

2800
02:14:10,000 --> 02:14:11,720
Speaker 1: I did it this one time, and I got burned.

2801
02:14:11,720 --> 02:14:13,560
Speaker 1: I went home to play the first time. So everybody

2802
02:14:13,600 --> 02:14:17,520
Speaker 1: wants tickets, and I said, it was about thirty yeah,

2803
02:14:17,520 --> 02:14:19,280
Speaker 1: in Oakland. So I bought them and I was like, hey,

2804
02:14:19,440 --> 02:14:20,880
Speaker 1: only thing I want you to do was make a

2805
02:14:20,960 --> 02:14:24,600
Speaker 1: twenty dollars donation to my foundation. That's it, right. I

2806
02:14:24,680 --> 02:14:29,240
Speaker 1: guess how many people did it? Zero exactly zero. They

2807
02:14:29,320 --> 02:14:32,960
Speaker 1: took the tickets and didn't make the zero zero people. Wow.

2808
02:14:33,840 --> 02:14:35,720
Speaker 1: So I've never done them. So all those people that

2809
02:14:35,840 --> 02:14:38,760
Speaker 1: came never got a free ticket again. The most I

2810
02:14:38,880 --> 02:14:41,080
Speaker 1: had ever get was one hundred and eighty six tickets

2811
02:14:42,000 --> 02:14:44,160
Speaker 1: or it was it was the bills in the broncos

2812
02:14:44,560 --> 02:14:47,960
Speaker 1: Um and they all paid for because, you know, because

2813
02:14:47,960 --> 02:14:50,800
Speaker 1: they were you know, because I grew up in Western Kansas,

2814
02:14:50,840 --> 02:14:52,920
Speaker 1: which is like a four hour drive as close as

2815
02:14:52,960 --> 02:14:55,240
Speaker 1: you could possibly get. And it was my first you know.

2816
02:14:55,560 --> 02:14:56,960
Speaker 1: So they all come in, they all rule. And I

2817
02:14:57,040 --> 02:14:59,400
Speaker 1: was when I was in Buffalo and my career was

2818
02:14:59,440 --> 02:15:01,440
Speaker 1: a little bit of established. One hundred eighty six and

2819
02:15:01,480 --> 02:15:03,800
Speaker 1: I found out we were going there, and I called

2820
02:15:03,880 --> 02:15:06,480
Speaker 1: Remember Bob Ferguson, the guy here in Buffalo, he was

2821
02:15:06,480 --> 02:15:08,840
Speaker 1: a gym and the bron Because I called him, I said, bro,

2822
02:15:08,960 --> 02:15:10,720
Speaker 1: you gotta he goes. All right, he goes, he goes.

2823
02:15:10,760 --> 02:15:12,800
Speaker 1: What do you need? You know? I told him he

2824
02:15:12,880 --> 02:15:16,360
Speaker 1: got him for me. Hey, they're sold out forever. Yeah, yeah,

2825
02:15:16,360 --> 02:15:18,000
Speaker 1: to buy him. Oh yeah, yeah, so you get one

2826
02:15:18,080 --> 02:15:20,440
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty six. I had I called six months

2827
02:15:20,480 --> 02:15:25,040
Speaker 1: ahead of time. That's what I had to do. And

2828
02:15:25,120 --> 02:15:26,960
Speaker 1: he does get because I can get you, you know,

2829
02:15:27,000 --> 02:15:29,200
Speaker 1: and he and he did. He came through me and yeah,

2830
02:15:29,480 --> 02:15:31,920
Speaker 1: and it all and everybody showed up. They were all

2831
02:15:31,960 --> 02:15:33,640
Speaker 1: gonna be there, the whole you know, half my town

2832
02:15:33,800 --> 02:15:36,000
Speaker 1: was there. And I gotta pulled to hamstring on Wednesday,

2833
02:15:36,040 --> 02:15:40,240
Speaker 1: couldn't play. I had a similar thing. I couldn't playing

2834
02:15:40,280 --> 02:15:42,200
Speaker 1: my first one. I pulled my hamstring the week before

2835
02:15:42,240 --> 02:15:45,840
Speaker 1: I went home to play thy standing on the sidelines Wow,

2836
02:15:46,440 --> 02:15:49,920
Speaker 1: Lorenzo OTA's and tomorrow mini camp next week? Will there

2837
02:15:49,960 --> 02:15:52,400
Speaker 1: be Will you notice any difference between the pace of

2838
02:15:52,440 --> 02:15:54,680
Speaker 1: tomorrow's practice and next tuesday, winn No, not at Army

2839
02:15:54,680 --> 02:15:57,360
Speaker 1: because we're still in the same just helmets and no

2840
02:15:57,480 --> 02:15:59,760
Speaker 1: shoulder pads are spiders. So the only thing that would

2841
02:15:59,760 --> 02:16:01,560
Speaker 1: be a little bit different is that the day will

2842
02:16:01,600 --> 02:16:03,560
Speaker 1: be a little bit longer because we'll actually meet after

2843
02:16:03,680 --> 02:16:06,360
Speaker 1: we have practice to watch the film and critique it

2844
02:16:06,800 --> 02:16:08,560
Speaker 1: versus waiting until the next morning. How we kind of

2845
02:16:08,560 --> 02:16:10,800
Speaker 1: do it now it's a regular season, Yeah, more like

2846
02:16:11,000 --> 02:16:12,880
Speaker 1: a regular season schedule a little bit longer. Is that

2847
02:16:12,920 --> 02:16:15,080
Speaker 1: the way they do it these days? After you critique

2848
02:16:15,080 --> 02:16:18,240
Speaker 1: today's practice today, because we used to do it that way.

2849
02:16:18,320 --> 02:16:21,160
Speaker 1: You practice today and then look at the film tomorrow. Yeah,

2850
02:16:21,320 --> 02:16:23,560
Speaker 1: that's that's how we're doing it doing OTA's. That's how

2851
02:16:23,600 --> 02:16:26,280
Speaker 1: you're doing it now right now. But next week in midicamp,

2852
02:16:26,600 --> 02:16:29,800
Speaker 1: it will be we'll watch the practice or that same

2853
02:16:29,880 --> 02:16:32,400
Speaker 1: day's practice that same day, so we'll practice during regular

2854
02:16:32,440 --> 02:16:36,000
Speaker 1: seasons you do. Oh um, it depends on the day

2855
02:16:36,080 --> 02:16:39,080
Speaker 1: a lot of times. Yeah, we'll watch it and then

2856
02:16:39,160 --> 02:16:41,280
Speaker 1: maybe if he has some more corrections that we want

2857
02:16:41,320 --> 02:16:43,879
Speaker 1: to see. We'll watch it the next morning. He'll pull

2858
02:16:43,959 --> 02:16:45,880
Speaker 1: some other things up just to make sure this is

2859
02:16:45,920 --> 02:16:48,039
Speaker 1: what we need to look for. And this OTAs kind

2860
02:16:48,040 --> 02:16:51,600
Speaker 1: of brings it into into highlight. But people don't realize

2861
02:16:52,040 --> 02:16:55,000
Speaker 1: as an NFL player, you'll you spend as much time

2862
02:16:55,040 --> 02:16:57,600
Speaker 1: if not more time in a classroom, in a meeting,

2863
02:16:57,680 --> 02:17:00,920
Speaker 1: watching film, you know, studying, do actually on the feat.

2864
02:17:01,040 --> 02:17:04,040
Speaker 1: It's more it's easy, easy, more there's always been and

2865
02:17:04,040 --> 02:17:05,800
Speaker 1: people don't get that, right, Yeah, I mean, because that's

2866
02:17:05,879 --> 02:17:07,840
Speaker 1: that's part of the game now. I mean, obviously you're

2867
02:17:07,920 --> 02:17:10,840
Speaker 1: physical athlete. You can run, you know, hit and cover

2868
02:17:10,959 --> 02:17:13,240
Speaker 1: and do all that stuff. But the difference at this

2869
02:17:13,400 --> 02:17:16,000
Speaker 1: level is just understanding the game, the mental makeup your football,

2870
02:17:16,080 --> 02:17:18,360
Speaker 1: like you being able to get that extra step, being

2871
02:17:18,800 --> 02:17:21,880
Speaker 1: able to anticipate with play or the blitz or this

2872
02:17:22,040 --> 02:17:25,360
Speaker 1: guy's favorite move or you know, how does this old

2873
02:17:25,400 --> 02:17:27,520
Speaker 1: lineman set. So you really have to watch a lot

2874
02:17:27,560 --> 02:17:29,680
Speaker 1: of film just so you can get a great idea

2875
02:17:29,720 --> 02:17:31,200
Speaker 1: of what this guy likes to do and how you

2876
02:17:31,240 --> 02:17:33,160
Speaker 1: want to attack him. How do you like your team

2877
02:17:33,240 --> 02:17:35,320
Speaker 1: so far as we move through this offseason, I like it.

2878
02:17:35,400 --> 02:17:37,879
Speaker 1: It's shaping up. I mean I really love the character

2879
02:17:38,120 --> 02:17:42,840
Speaker 1: of guys that we have the workmanship from from top down. Um,

2880
02:17:43,160 --> 02:17:45,000
Speaker 1: and again that's a testament to our front officer of

2881
02:17:45,080 --> 02:17:47,560
Speaker 1: continue to bringing these type of guys. And it's really

2882
02:17:47,680 --> 02:17:50,320
Speaker 1: up to the leadership, you know, defensively and offensively to

2883
02:17:50,440 --> 02:17:53,880
Speaker 1: cultivate get these guys ingraining our culture. And it's going well.

2884
02:17:54,360 --> 02:17:57,000
Speaker 1: Steve and I. We've had rookies come in. Whyat teller

2885
02:17:57,120 --> 02:17:59,480
Speaker 1: is in today the offensive linement? Okay, they're an impressive

2886
02:17:59,520 --> 02:18:03,560
Speaker 1: group of guys. I'm saying, smart and articulate, right, really,

2887
02:18:03,560 --> 02:18:05,440
Speaker 1: and that's the time and the place to be smart articulate.

2888
02:18:05,560 --> 02:18:09,039
Speaker 1: Sometimes you gotta tell these young guys shut up sometimes.

2889
02:18:09,120 --> 02:18:11,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, for overall, you know, as far as how

2890
02:18:11,040 --> 02:18:14,520
Speaker 1: they carried themselves and how mature they are, they're doing

2891
02:18:14,560 --> 02:18:16,879
Speaker 1: a good job of of acclimating themselves to the NFL

2892
02:18:16,959 --> 02:18:19,080
Speaker 1: life style. Usually when the young guys start talking with us,

2893
02:18:19,120 --> 02:18:22,640
Speaker 1: when they start to feel more comfortable. Yeah, yeah, what's

2894
02:18:22,680 --> 02:18:28,320
Speaker 1: your name again? Right? Yeah, yeah, exactly what's your name? Yeah? Yeah,

2895
02:18:28,360 --> 02:18:32,160
Speaker 1: Little Tremaine is great. It's it's not Tremaine at all.

2896
02:18:32,200 --> 02:18:34,480
Speaker 1: He couple of weeks in though, you can't shut him up, right,

2897
02:18:34,840 --> 02:18:37,119
Speaker 1: He's done a great pump the brakes. There are we good?

2898
02:18:37,720 --> 02:18:39,520
Speaker 1: We're always good. I mean, that's what we do. We

2899
02:18:39,640 --> 02:18:41,800
Speaker 1: we you know, we go back and forth at each other,

2900
02:18:42,040 --> 02:18:50,440
Speaker 1: you know, and that's how brothers relate. Man. I actually

2901
02:18:50,480 --> 02:18:53,720
Speaker 1: I'm glad Lorenzo came in. Is that brought me off

2902
02:18:53,760 --> 02:18:56,640
Speaker 1: to that? Just I was out. I was out the

2903
02:18:56,760 --> 02:19:00,960
Speaker 1: window with my toes hanging. I was out, Thanks Buly Man.

2904
02:19:03,400 --> 02:19:05,320
Speaker 1: I was working without a net for a minute. So

2905
02:19:05,440 --> 02:19:08,320
Speaker 1: I'm glad. I'm glad. I take a deep breath. Legs

2906
02:19:08,320 --> 02:19:09,720
Speaker 1: a guy to have that type of look at his

2907
02:19:10,200 --> 02:19:16,120
Speaker 1: Why thanks for We'll talking round to Alexander Ensudio with U,

2908
02:19:16,120 --> 02:19:18,040
Speaker 1: Steve and I back with more. One Bill's Live from

2909
02:19:18,080 --> 02:19:36,680
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive, and this is Buffalo Bills Radio. What

2910
02:19:36,840 --> 02:19:39,680
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Speaker 1: to including Wyatt Teller, fifth round draft pick of the Bills.

2915
02:19:49,680 --> 02:19:53,080
Speaker 1: He offensive lineman from Virginia Tech. He has been quoted

2916
02:19:53,120 --> 02:19:55,200
Speaker 1: as saying that Bill's first round pick for me and

2917
02:19:55,360 --> 02:19:57,560
Speaker 1: Edmonds is the best player, one of the best players

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Speaker 1: he's ever gone against. I asked him, as Aunt, right,

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Speaker 1: you really I believe that? Then why would you say

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Speaker 1: that Edmonds is the best player you've ever played against.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look at him to me, but you'll have

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Speaker 1: to sell many people on how he's a billboard. He's

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Speaker 1: a big billboard for big and bad a football player.

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Speaker 1: And not only look at him, but I mean just

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Speaker 1: you know, if you look at his habits, the way

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Speaker 1: he way he performs, the way he acts, the way

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Speaker 1: he he's a mature guy. Um, you can tell that

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Speaker 1: this is his life and you know this is this

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Speaker 1: is his future. Wyatt Teller, Bill's offensive lineman, rookie fifth

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Speaker 1: round pick on trem and Edmonds. Also today we just

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Speaker 1: said goodbye to Lorenzo Alexander. The first several minutes of Lorenzo,

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Speaker 1: we talked about Tera Owens and his announcement today that

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Speaker 1: he is going to decline his invitation to attend the

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Speaker 1: induction ceremony at the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Canton.

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Speaker 1: Says he wants to celebrate one of the most memorable

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Speaker 1: days of his life elsewhere and he'll announce where and when.

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Speaker 1: A little bit later on, we asked Lorenzo about that,

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Speaker 1: and he said he was not really surprised by Tio's decision.

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Speaker 1: The biggest issue is is that we've seen to over

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Speaker 1: his career, so he showed us who he is. So

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Speaker 1: for me to give him the benefit of the doubt

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Speaker 1: would be a going out on the limb. People are

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Speaker 1: saying cancer or something else based on who he is.

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Speaker 1: That's not what I'm gonna naturally go to. Now. If

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Speaker 1: he did everything right, was doing things and then decide a,

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Speaker 1: you know, I have some personal issues, like I can't

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Speaker 1: come to Canton be and I'd rather do it here.

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Speaker 1: And even if that was okay, he can still fly

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Speaker 1: there and then fly back home. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's that hard of a thing to be able

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Speaker 1: to go to do two different events if you want

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Speaker 1: to be inclusive of your family who cannot travel and

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Speaker 1: actually be there at the actual induction. So there's a

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Speaker 1: way to make this right. And that's why I feel

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Speaker 1: that to was doing this just for himself and not

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Speaker 1: because there's a real excuse or something that's going on

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Speaker 1: in this life that's going to prevent him. That is

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Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander and Terrol Loans. Obviously, we're gonna talk more

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Speaker 1: about that and hopefully we learn more about that and

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Speaker 1: the motivate motivation for Carolans to skip out not go.

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Speaker 1: We also learned during the course of the show today

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Speaker 1: that Patriots white receiver Julian Edelman, according to ESPN, has

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Speaker 1: been given a four game suspension for violating the league's

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Speaker 1: performance enhancing substances policy. He is appealing it. He missed

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Speaker 1: all of them last year with a touring acl on

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Speaker 1: his right knee that happened in preseason. So it's not

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Speaker 1: as if Steve the Patriots don't know how to play

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Speaker 1: without Julian Edelman, but that doesn't help to have him

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Speaker 1: out for the four games suspension, no, no question about it.

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Speaker 1: That's it's it's going to be a blow to their offense,

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Speaker 1: and let's face it, they're probably counting on him, but

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Speaker 1: it does come at a time when they can make

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Speaker 1: plenty of plenty of moves to cover for that. They'll

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Speaker 1: be ready to play opening day whether he's in there

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Speaker 1: or not. Again, it's another thing you add to the

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Speaker 1: list of a rocky offseason. I would think for the

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Speaker 1: New England Patriots, right, well, it hasn't been rippling, but

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Speaker 1: it's it's been a little bit substantial. Some of the

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Speaker 1: challenges they faced this offseason. It's a little bit eyebrow

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Speaker 1: raising because you know, Tom Brady did not show up

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02:22:51,080 --> 02:22:54,480
Speaker 1: for the offseason workhouse. Gronkowski did not either, and it's

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02:22:54,480 --> 02:22:57,640
Speaker 1: pretty clear that he wants his deal redone. Julian Edelman

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02:22:57,760 --> 02:22:59,600
Speaker 1: was coming off a major injury and now will miss

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Speaker 1: the first four games of the season, even if he

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Speaker 1: is capable of playing. And you know the ongoing rift

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Speaker 1: between the organization and Tom Brady's personal trainers. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot going on over there. None of it means anything

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Speaker 1: at this point, but it certainly doesn't seem to be

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Speaker 1: business as usual at Patriot Place. Business here and one.

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Speaker 1: Bill's Drive continues tomorrow with the final day of organized

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Speaker 1: team activity, and then next week Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, it

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Speaker 1: is mini camp, mandatory mini camp for the Bills. Tomorrow

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02:23:30,000 --> 02:23:33,080
Speaker 1: show AJ McCarron schedules to join US Bills veteran quarterback

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Speaker 1: and Chris Brown. We should have a lot to talk

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Speaker 1: to AJ belt right, Yeah, it'll be good see him

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Speaker 1: and have him in Studio. Yeah, looking forward to that tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Our production assistance from George Blast, Jeff Colteneck, Thomas honold Or,

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Speaker 1: Kelly Rude, JJ Dorito, Kevin Kargis and James Robot. Our

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Speaker 1: producer Jay Harris, Steve and I coming back tomorrow for

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Speaker 1: one more show this week, twelve noon tomorrow. Make sure

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