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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where one of us just said,

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Speaker 1: I forget everything. So when the day is over, everything

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Speaker 1: is over. I'm Greg Rosenthal. I'm here in the Chris

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Speaker 1: Wesleyan podcast studio. I'll let our listeners guess whether that

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Speaker 1: was Jordan Rodrigue or Colleen Woolf who said that tough one.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hey, it's great to see your faces.

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Speaker 3: Great to have you back.

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Speaker 1: Great that Jordan made it to the show in one piece.

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Speaker 1: What a journey she was in Las Vegas last night.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe that she slapped Vegas.

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Speaker 4: Yes, which when phrase that way makes me sound really professional.

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Speaker 4: But no, I was covering the Monday night football game

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Speaker 4: for the Athletic and I had a six am flight

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Speaker 4: out of Vegas and the Monday night football game ended

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Speaker 4: at about eleven thirty, yeah, Pacific time. And then I

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Speaker 4: got out of there at one forty five and then

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Speaker 4: went to the airport, sat in the front before TSA

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Speaker 4: was open, and edited with my with my editor shout

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Speaker 4: out Gary Grambling on this one, and just went over

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Speaker 4: edits in a Google doc until about four am.

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Speaker 3: A true pro.

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Speaker 4: You know, you know now I'm here, you know, I'd love.

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Speaker 3: To talk about football ready.

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Speaker 1: That sounds like its actually it is like the best

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Speaker 1: it's the best job you ever But you know we're

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Speaker 1: out here grinding.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I saw none of Vegas. And my my

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Speaker 4: uber driver was judging me so hard taking me from

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Speaker 4: the stadium to the airport at about two am. He

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Speaker 4: was like, you know, we're right, we're right around the

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Speaker 4: corner from the strip. Aren't you going to go and

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Speaker 4: like kill some time there before your flight? And I said, no,

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Speaker 4: I'm going to go to the airport, like I would

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Speaker 4: totally lose track of time if I walked into a

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Speaker 4: casino right now or something like that, like and and

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Speaker 4: he's like, oh, okay, and then was quiet for the

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Speaker 4: rest of the drive, and then he and then he

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Speaker 4: dropped me off at the airport and then he goes, well,

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Speaker 4: I guess have fun at the airport.

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Speaker 5: No, And I was like, what a three am Vegas

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Speaker 5: airport has to be the most depressing place in the world.

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Speaker 4: It was, you know, it was like being inside a

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Speaker 4: McDonald's ballpit. Oh, but I'm here and I probably smell.

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Speaker 1: Great, Greg, I can I can appreciate the aroma from here.

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Speaker 2: You're doing great.

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Speaker 3: So today we're all.

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Speaker 1: Anxious people sometimes, you know, and we all deal with

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Speaker 1: anxiety in different ways. And all this news came out

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Speaker 1: on Monday that was giving me anxiety and imagining all

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Speaker 1: the fans and certainly the players and the coaches who

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Speaker 1: are feeling anxious after the injuries, and we decided not

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Speaker 1: to hit them on the Monday night recap show on

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Speaker 1: the doubleheader so that we could do it here. We

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Speaker 1: will also preview our Thursday night football game this week,

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Speaker 1: Dolphins and Bills.

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Speaker 3: But yes, there was something about.

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Speaker 1: Having Colleen on the show show that maybe kickstarted this.

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Speaker 1: And so what we're gonna do is, we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: an anxiety index on this show. We're going to talk

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Speaker 1: about seven different teams, some of whom are dealing with

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Speaker 1: quarterback injuries now, some of them whom are just you know,

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Speaker 1: giving me anxiety, and we're gonna put them on an

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Speaker 1: anxiety index where if you're watching us on YouTube you

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Speaker 1: can see I'm just gonna write it on a little whiteboard.

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Speaker 3: We'll pick where they are in this.

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Speaker 2: But he's very nervous about his handwriting.

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm nervous about this whole thing. What is

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Speaker 1: your relationship with anxiety, Colleen, Well, it's a.

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Speaker 2: Close friend of mine. I wouldn't even say friend.

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Speaker 5: It's just like some a person that like keeps coming

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Speaker 5: over to the house and staying and they're unwelcomed, like

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Speaker 5: like what time is your flight?

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Speaker 4: When are you leaving? Are you staying from dinner? No?

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Speaker 3: Please?

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it's been you know what, it's been.

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Speaker 5: Fine lately, really good, chilling. Haven't seen anxiety for a sec.

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Speaker 1: And how like would you say you like handle anxiety?

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Speaker 1: And how much less anxious are you now that those

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Speaker 2: Oh? Listen, you know, I just take it one day

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Speaker 3: Sorry, let's talk. Let's like Vikings.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So we're gonna hit a bunch of different teams,

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Speaker 1: surprising injury news on Monday is that JJ McCarthy is

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Speaker 1: could be Carson Wentz versus Aaron Rodgers, which is just

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Speaker 1: a wild matchup in Dublin.

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Speaker 3: We'll see.

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Speaker 1: But this exercise is more to talk about the Vikings

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Speaker 1: that's the biggest one they have the Bengals, We'll get

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Speaker 3: You wanted to in week two?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I did, and you opened up and I thought

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Speaker 1: How anxious are you feeling after quite a disappointing performance

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm probably about a six or seven for the

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Speaker 4: Vikings out of ten right now in terms of the

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Speaker 4: anxiety scale. I had the great honor and pleasure of

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Speaker 4: watching Carson Wentz's last active start, which was sort of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And so this was if Kevin O'Connell wants to

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Speaker 4: win with Carson Wentz. I think he's gonna pull exactly

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Speaker 4: from what the Rams did, and they used him a

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Speaker 4: You know, you get the tight ends pretty activated in this,

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Speaker 4: as I called him at the time, the battering Ram

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Speaker 4: think that's how you squeak out a couple of wins

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Speaker 3: At this point, I think he could be an upgrade

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Speaker 1: It was not just for clarity his last start, because

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Speaker 4: He deleted it from my memory.

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Speaker 1: You're right, grant that he was playing with backups for

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Speaker 4: Phokuna Coop of the record, their rookie receiving record.

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Speaker 3: A couple of years ago.

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Speaker 1: He will be, I believe, the first player in NFL

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Speaker 1: history to start a game for five different teams in

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Speaker 1: the you know, Carson Wentz Nick Nick foles that year,

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Speaker 1: and it's amazing to think that here. But I kind

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he struggled, and now he can't get the reps

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Speaker 5: missing all of last season. So that's definitely not something

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Speaker 5: that the fans want or the team in general. I'm

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Speaker 5: sure Justin Jefferson has to be beside himself. There were

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Speaker 5: But I think about Carson Wentz just in terms of

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Speaker 2: So this is a place that they've sort of been before.

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Speaker 5: Obviously, Josh Dobbs kind of declined after that first game

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Speaker 5: where he really went off, But I think that Carson Wentz.

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Speaker 5: He's a veteran, so you could probably pull some concepts

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Speaker 4: And that's why they signed him is because he's seen

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Speaker 1: But it also as a play and their first plan failed.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and honestly they needed to go and find somebody

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Speaker 4: if necessary. And you saw what Carson Wentz was doing

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Speaker 4: He's hearing how Kevin O'Connell likes to do things. So

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Speaker 4: there's that. But the problem, the reason why my anxiety

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Speaker 4: I believe in Kevin O'Connell's ability to maximize whatever juice

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Speaker 4: a quarterback has left in the tank, and I believe

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Speaker 4: JJ McCarthy needs, like you said, Colleen needs reps and

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Speaker 4: he's not going to be getting them while he's recovering.

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Speaker 4: If this was just a straight up benching, which shouldn't be,

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Speaker 1: But if it WASNA was clear to say this had

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Speaker 1: nothing to do with performance reasons.

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Speaker 4: But if it was I would feel better because then

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Speaker 4: you're at least getting him reps and practice that he

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Speaker 4: needs to get. Your restructuring your entire workflow to make

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Speaker 4: sure he's actually behind the scenes rebuilding that confidence. I

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Speaker 4: think that anybody who watched or even you know, read

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Speaker 4: reports of what was going on in practice all training

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Speaker 4: camp with JJ McCarthy, it was this. They were prepared

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Speaker 4: for this experience where there's gonna be streaky days and

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Speaker 4: then he recovers, he recalibrates, and he really bounces back. Well,

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Speaker 4: didn't get a chance to last week. Probably part of

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Speaker 4: Yeah no sleepin's.

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Speaker 3: Performance, Jordan. That's no excuse.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Craig. I'll go cry in the corner now.

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Speaker 3: I know I'm saying. I'm saying, you're knocking it out

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Speaker 1: That's a negative way to view that. My anxiety, My anxiety.

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Speaker 5: You have an inexperienced quarterback who's finishing the game with

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Speaker 1: You No, the left tackle situation has been a problem.

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Speaker 5: Your face sum are overseas, right, are they back to

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's doublee.

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Speaker 4: Nobody's watching.

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Speaker 3: We can change it if we want.

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Speaker 1: Seven is the most anxiety, Well, no, it's we're ranking

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Speaker 4: I'm going to go to I think two is good.

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Speaker 4: Two is two is right.

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Speaker 1: Two feels good, and if we want to erase it,

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, your hand right.

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Speaker 3: It's absolutely terrible.

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Speaker 1: It's absolutely embarrassing, and I'm going to fix it.

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Speaker 4: I love Colleen.

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Speaker 3: Are in the same wave like you guys.

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Speaker 1: Very often that knocks you out for the whole season.

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Speaker 1: And then Austin Corbett, their starting center also going to

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Speaker 1: it's just a bummer for them to start out the

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Speaker 5: Thinking about last season and what they after an zero

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and interior guys too. Metaphor, you know, speaking of anxiety.

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Speaker 4: It does bumm me out because that's also too interior

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Speaker 2: Game through fifty five times.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's yeah, this this stinks. But I also

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Speaker 1: I've always compared him to Alex Smith, like could he

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Speaker 3: He had injuries. Yet I could took get with.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why I was sending him so much like,

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Speaker 3: You want stability for them.

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Speaker 1: We have the Falcons, the Patriots, the Dolphins, the Cowboys,

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Speaker 2: Anxiety is at like a seven for me. It's not

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Speaker 4: I don't, I don't neither of us think that this

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Speaker 4: You're looking at the potential of three red headed quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: Maybe we could have no cheez no, bring it back,

441
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Speaker 3: the return of.

442
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Speaker 4: I can never unhear it.

443
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Speaker 1: Because the expectations were so low to begin with. I'm

444
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Speaker 1: going to put the Panthers down at like fifth here.

445
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:11,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you think?

446
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 4: I think that's too high? But yeah, I'm six for them.

447
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 3: I also at the bottom here. I am.

448
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 4: I am that team redhead. I just think so many

449
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 4: of them playing at the same time.

450
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Speaker 3: You're worried about them.

451
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 4: Possibly something cosmically, something cosmically happens.

452
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Speaker 5: Okay, all right, so keep an eye out, keep an

453
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Speaker 5: eye out.

454
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Speaker 4: Every well, look alive.

455
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Speaker 1: It's always hilarious before the show where I'm like this,

456
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Speaker 1: this show might be too quick. We got to hit

457
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 1: the minimum for our fast show.

458
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,680
Speaker 2: And hilarious that you say that every time.

459
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Speaker 4: I do, like I have new ways to scold us

460
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Speaker 4: every week.

461
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Speaker 1: I love I love a honk fest. Let's talk Commanders.

462
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:54,160
Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels might not play this week. That was surprising.

463
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 1: He was one of I believe six players to get

464
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 1: an MRI on the team after their Week two loss.

465
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,919
Speaker 1: Two of them are gonna be out for the season,

466
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Speaker 1: Austin Eckler and Dietrich Wise, who I think were important

467
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 1: players for them. They were starting for a reason, especially Wise,

468
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 1: I think was a guy they brought in to add

469
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Speaker 1: a little run defense, a veteran in that room. But

470
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Speaker 1: the surprise was that Daniels after really getting hit quite

471
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Speaker 1: a bit against the Packers and was limping at the

472
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Speaker 1: end of that game. So maybe I sh shouldn't be

473
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Speaker 1: as shocked. Got the MRI on his knee, and he's

474
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Speaker 1: day to day. We will see. We're taping this on Tuesday,

475
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Speaker 1: but his Week three status against the Raiders is in doubt.

476
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Speaker 1: If you're ever gonna sit for a game calling, maybe

477
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Speaker 1: this one would be one Gadu.

478
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Speaker 4: Raiders defense erasure. They looked pretty good minus a sixty

479
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Speaker 4: yard justin Herbert Baum.

480
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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm just saying we'll start with you.

481
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Speaker 1: Then you just wrote the piece the definition of a

482
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Speaker 1: backup quarterback piece. No one can write about backup quarterbacks

483
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Speaker 1: for at least like three years on the internet because

484
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 1: Jordan did such a good job. It was like in

485
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 1: oral history style on what it's like to be a

486
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: backup quarterback on the athletic And you know, one of

487
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,639
Speaker 1: them was Marcus Mariota, who I do believe, based on

488
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Speaker 1: how he's looked in Washington in the regular season and

489
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Speaker 1: the preseason, is one of the best backups in the league.

490
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Speaker 2: He's also thrived with Kingsbury before.

491
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

492
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Speaker 1: Right, so I'm just saying, if it was on a

493
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,439
Speaker 1: knife edge of whether he could play or not, you

494
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Speaker 1: feel good about me.

495
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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the lowest on my anxiety. Okay, you're

496
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Speaker 4: having Marcus Mariota running that offense. He is one of

497
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Speaker 4: the best backups in the league. He could still start

498
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 4: games for a team if it was the right fit

499
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 4: for him, with coordinator and line and all those things,

500
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 4: as it would be for so many the way that

501
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 4: one reason I really liked doing that piece, Thank you

502
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,959
Speaker 4: for mentioning that, was because I really wanted to know

503
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Speaker 4: how people take information that they're never actually using. You know,

504
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,199
Speaker 4: in real life, they just absorb this massive amount of

505
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 4: information and studies, but they never actually get to use

506
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 4: the things that they learned and the things that they're

507
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 4: doing in the film room and teaching. You got to

508
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 4: get ready. Yeah, and so now he's going to get

509
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 4: if this goes the way that I think it will,

510
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 4: he'll get the full week of reps. And he's already

511
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 4: doing the same types of early morning walkthroughs that Jaden

512
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 4: Daniels is doing with the quarterbacks coach with Cliff Kingsbury.

513
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 4: Marcus Marriott is doing that with Tavita Pritchard, the quarterbacks coach.

514
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 4: Like they're doing They're trying to keep this as even

515
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 4: as possible for the sake of the rest of the offense,

516
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 4: and I think that's a really important and mature kind

517
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Speaker 4: of way to look at it. One thing that is

518
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 4: sticking out to me early. I think remember last year

519
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 4: and Colleen, I think you were on top of this one.

520
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,919
Speaker 4: We were keeping stats for like teams after they had

521
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 4: played the Lions and how beat up they were after

522
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 4: they'd played the Lions. I think the Packers are the

523
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 4: new team this year.

524
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Speaker 2: Oh.

525
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Speaker 4: I mean watching them to watching the way that they

526
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,360
Speaker 4: hit Houston kind of competing for that a little bit,

527
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Speaker 4: but especially the way that they went after Jadeen Daniels.

528
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 4: I mean, you really want to protect him and the

529
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 4: Raiders don't have much of a pass rush, but you know,

530
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Speaker 4: it's like you still you want to play a capable

531
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Speaker 4: quarterback against Max Crosby.

532
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Speaker 3: One.

533
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Speaker 1: A huge advantage for that is just from the schedule makers.

534
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 1: You cannot have a bigger schedule advantage rest wise.

535
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Speaker 3: Than they do.

536
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Speaker 1: They were they had a Thursday night game, the Raiders

537
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Speaker 1: at a Monday night game, and the Raiders have to

538
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: come all the way to the East Coast. I mean

539
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 1: that that is a pretty big deal, not just coming

540
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Speaker 1: off rest, but for all the players early in the season.

541
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Speaker 1: That's tough having had to play so much watching them

542
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Speaker 1: like are you I don't know.

543
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Speaker 5: Well, so the only thing that would bump up my

544
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 5: anxiety meter a little bit higher is just the fact

545
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 5: that Jaden Daniels and Terry McLaurin just to have they're off,

546
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 5: like their connection it's not there yet.

547
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 2: There's just they're out of rhythm.

548
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 5: And now it's sort of like the same thing with

549
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 5: JJ McCarthy with Jayden Daniels, he's not going to be

550
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,199
Speaker 5: able to find that rhythm. And I feel like this

551
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 5: whole the whole contract situation, all the negotiations, it really

552
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 5: does make a difference whether or not you get that

553
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 5: practice time and you get that rep those reps during

554
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 5: training camp because we're kind of seeing that now play out.

555
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 4: Turns out, if you already know you're going to eventually

556
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 4: extend the player, you should do it before training camp.

557
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 4: I don't get it.

558
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 2: Why why do they do this?

559
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 1: Because he wanted like more than they were willing to give,

560
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: and then they were putting all this all this out there.

561
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 3: It's like, how dare he ask for this? Like he

562
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 3: wanted this top shelf stuff.

563
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Just Terry McLaurin, who's like the Spider Man

564
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 4: meme of Spider Man standing in front of the train

565
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 4: when the organization is in total dysfunction, holding it and

566
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Speaker 4: straining to keep everything together as like the face of

567
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 4: that organization forever. We don't need to really quarterback.

568
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Speaker 1: I have a little anxiety though that it was the

569
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Speaker 1: worst game of Jadon Daniels' career.

570
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think the opponent I.

571
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 4: Mentioned after week one, I thought they looked a little

572
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 4: too loose.

573
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Speaker 3: They were a little on the even in week one.

574
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Speaker 1: They have Josh Connerly, who's their first round pick starting

575
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Speaker 1: at right tackle right now. He leads the NFL and

576
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 1: pressures allowed. Now that'll happen after going against Michael Parsons

577
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: and Rashan Gary. But you know, you struggled a little

578
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: bit in week one. He's had tough matchups. Well he

579
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: might have, you know, Max Crosby on the same side

580
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Speaker 1: of him this, so that that could be difficult.

581
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Speaker 3: You know, you lose echlier.

582
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: That's not a massive one, but I do wonder if

583
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: it was after one year of Cliff Kingsbury, whether you

584
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: know he has a next move, and I think they will,

585
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: and I think I'm not worried about Jaden Daniels at all.

586
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: But I do think that the depth of the weapons

587
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 1: on this team is not great behind McLaurin and Deebo Samuel.

588
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 1: So are we we're going to put them last?

589
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 4: Though?

590
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Speaker 3: Of these?

591
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: Ultimately they're the only one with Jaden and Daniels on

592
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 1: their team of all these.

593
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I'm contextualizing in the fact that we don't

594
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 4: necessarily think this is an extended injury. Yet we don't know.

595
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 4: And also I think they've got the best backup in

596
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:38,719
Speaker 4: the league.

597
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 3: Okay, So are we going to we want to put

598
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Speaker 3: them at the bottom?

599
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 4: I think so.

600
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Speaker 3: Don't be angous the need for me, don't be don't

601
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Speaker 3: be new.

602
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,360
Speaker 4: I've really taken a command of the love that.

603
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Speaker 5: It's also interesting that Mariota played for the Raiders too,

604
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 5: even though he just never started for them.

605
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Speaker 1: You know, all right, let's do one more before a

606
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: break the Kansas City Chiefs, sirreh too. I don't know

607
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: if you guys heard. It's hard being on top. And

608
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: do you feel guilty as an Eagles fan for sending

609
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: great individuals like Nick right into a shame spiral?

610
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, you know, I'm so sorry for everyone

611
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 5: out there that is reeling.

612
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 2: But you should have known that this was going to happen.

613
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Speaker 5: I look at this Chiefs offense and obviously they're going

614
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 5: to not look the way that they did before. But

615
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 5: even the way that they did before, they weren't an

616
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Speaker 5: explosive offense. And now you're down your top two best

617
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 5: pass catchers.

618
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 4: You're gonna have some issues.

619
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Speaker 5: But they're not going to be able to sustain this

620
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 5: with Patrick Mahomes just trying to do everything himself. And

621
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Speaker 5: this is so unfamiliar this territory for them starting the

622
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 5: year off oh and two after losing a Super Bowl too.

623
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Speaker 5: I just I don't know how the team comes together,

624
00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 5: but Kansas City is known for figuring these things out

625
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 5: mid season or anytime during the year.

626
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Speaker 1: I think multiple things can be true here that it

627
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: is different than it's ever been.

628
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 4: Because they see they seem anxious. You see Chris Jones

629
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 4: snap to snap, talking back and forth to the aligneman

630
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 4: opposite him and talking on the sideline, and he seems anxious.

631
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 4: They seem like they're tight right now.

632
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: It's hard being on top, and like they will bounce back.

633
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: They lost two one score games, which was their their

634
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: magic potion a year ago. Yeah, just figure out a

635
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: way to good teams to very good teams. At the

636
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: end of the year, we could look up and the

637
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: Chargers and the Eagles could be two of the if

638
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: not the toughest teams that they face all year, along

639
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: with the Ravens. And so their one score, you know,

640
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: losers in those games. That's not something to totally panic about.

641
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: But to me, it was like they were only watching

642
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: it within one score because they were the Chiefs. It

643
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: was like their old one score magic of They are

644
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: really well coached and they have one of the greatest

645
00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: players of all time, and they have all the organizationally

646
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: institutional sort of culture that they're not going to get

647
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: blown like that was the only thing that's keeping them close.

648
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: Because I look at the players and I do think

649
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: there's a talent gap here, especially on the defense. So

650
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: my anxiety is way higher on the defensive side because

651
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: they're going to get those players back.

652
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 3: On offense.

653
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: They have Patrick Mahomes on offense, they have Andy Reid

654
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: helping out with the offense. I think the offense can

655
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: still be top shelf. I don't know if they have

656
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: the dudes on the defense.

657
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Speaker 4: Ultimately, Yeah, we talked about spags and how brilliant he

658
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 4: can be in scheming up pressure. But it got to

659
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 4: a point against Philadelphia where you're almost stretching yourself too

660
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 4: thin with the amount of blitzing that you had to

661
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 4: do because you could not rush with four And that's

662
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Speaker 4: a Chris Jones comment, you know, And that's something where

663
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Speaker 4: it is really strange for me. And he's I believe,

664
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Speaker 4: started slow in the past before and then really turned

665
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Speaker 4: it on at the end of seasons and all of that.

666
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Speaker 4: So I don't necessarily rule someone of that lea talent

667
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Speaker 4: ability out. But you mentioned the talent gap, it's also

668
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Speaker 4: an age gap between the two players Travis Kelcey and

669
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Speaker 4: Chris Jones and who they most have to rely on

670
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Speaker 4: outside of Patrick Mahomes. And then there's a sort of

671
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Speaker 4: a middle age group that hasn't quite come up to

672
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Speaker 4: where it needs to be. And then there's a lot

673
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Speaker 4: of young players. You guys know, I love Josh Simmons

674
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Speaker 4: at left tackle. There's still going to be some bumpy

675
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 4: moments with a rookie who is starting for you, Xavier Worthy,

676
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 4: who's not on the field yet after some accidental contact

677
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 4: by Travis kelce and then this defense there's a lot

678
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Speaker 4: of missing there's a lot of missing pieces in terms

679
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Speaker 4: of this collective unit that we're so used to seeing

680
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 4: not only rush as one, but also attacking coverage as well.

681
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Speaker 2: And they can't run the ball.

682
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Speaker 5: And even when Xavier Worthy returns, he's not going to

683
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Speaker 5: be one hundred percent with this harness or whatever he's

684
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Speaker 5: going to have to wear. You're still waiting for Rashi

685
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Speaker 5: Rice to come back. You still have what four games

686
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 5: left now, and they're in a really tough division now

687
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Speaker 5: with the Chargers looking good.

688
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Speaker 4: I think my giety who gain advantage now by the Chargers,

689
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Speaker 4: which is so rare to have that happen. And the

690
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 4: Chargers suddenly have not suddenly, but over the last two

691
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 4: years have the best defense in the league not named

692
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Speaker 4: the Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 1: So they're at the Giants this week that there'll be

694
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Speaker 1: a heavy favorite there. Then they're back home for the Ravens,

695
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Speaker 1: at the Jaguars and the Lions before Rashid Rice's back.

696
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Speaker 1: So you think about this early schedule, it's really front loaded,

697
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: and so them not being kind of fully ready for

698
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Speaker 1: the start of the season is going to come back

699
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Speaker 1: to get them. And you know, I started by saying

700
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Speaker 1: multiple things can be do they can bounce back, but

701
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Speaker 1: still not be the old Chiefs. And you think about

702
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Speaker 1: that Patriots, and that is the comp because no other

703
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: team in history has made it as far in the

704
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Speaker 1: playoffs as the Kansas City Chiefs in the entire NFL

705
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: history consistently other than that those Patriots teams. And yet

706
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Speaker 1: you look at that run and there were many years

707
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Speaker 1: where you pretty much knew that they didn't have it,

708
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Speaker 1: that they were short a number of pieces, and you

709
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: tried to convince yourself like the national media or the

710
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: local fans would, but like you know, the years they

711
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: just had like no running game or their defense didn't

712
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: make sense. And because it's Tom Brady and Bill Belichick,

713
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Speaker 1: it's like they still were getting to the wildcard round

714
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Speaker 1: before they get blown out by the Ravens, or they

715
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Speaker 1: get to the divisional round or even maybe to the

716
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Speaker 1: conference championship before like Peyton Manning takes care of him.

717
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Speaker 2: But like they right.

718
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Speaker 3: They had shortcoming.

719
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Speaker 1: And that's what this team feels like to me, because

720
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Speaker 1: I don't know where the help is coming from. Nick

721
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: Bolton like he's one of those middle aged younger players,

722
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: he looks old like he's taken too many big hits,

723
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Speaker 1: and then you're trying out some of these same guys

724
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Speaker 1: Charles Amana, who Derek Noddy on the defensive line and

725
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Speaker 1: it's I just don't see it. So my anxiety level

726
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: is it's quite high, and it hurts when you're used

727
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Speaker 1: to being the best. If you're just like pretty good,

728
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Speaker 1: Like there is a different sort of anxiety.

729
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Speaker 5: What did you guys think when you were watching that

730
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 5: game and it was so close at the end, where

731
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 5: because normally if this.

732
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Speaker 2: Was even last year or the year before, you'd be like,

733
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 2: oh god.

734
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Speaker 1: I was thinking, I can't believe the Chiefs are in

735
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: this game, but they're not going to do it.

736
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Speaker 4: That was yeah, And I was thinking call miss team

737
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 4: wins and that's the Eagles.

738
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it didn't feel scary.

739
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Speaker 1: Wow, it sounds like we're anxious. I thought they were

740
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: going to be on the bottom of the list because

741
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: of the Chiefs. We have the vikings at two and yes,

742
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: the visual accompaniment, the production value is so high. Right

743
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: now with my little whiteboard, where do you want to

744
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 1: put them?

745
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 4: I'm going to put them at four personally because they

746
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 4: still have Patrick Mahomes right, That's the thing and they're

747
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 4: getting guys back once they.

748
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Speaker 1: Do Champagne problems, like ooh, we might be this five seed,

749
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: like you know, I mean.

750
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Speaker 5: I'm thinking more of like a three I feel, but

751
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 5: we could keep them at four.

752
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 2: We'll see see how it pans out. But for me,

753
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 2: it's it's higher all right. Xiety.

754
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: So far, we've gone over four teams, the Vikings, the Chiefs,

755
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 1: the Panthers, and the Commanders. Let's take a quick break,

756
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: hit a few more teams and t NF after the break.

757
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Speaker 3: I'm anxious about this segment? Is it working back on

758
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 3: NFL daily? So Colleen, when you.

759
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 1: Say you get to the end of the day, everything

760
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 1: is over, you're just like it's kind of like you're

761
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: rebooting a computer the next day and everything that happened before.

762
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 5: Doesn't matter, Like if the hard drive just erases, Like

763
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 5: I'm working off of ms DOSS on a massive computer that.

764
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 2: Is very outdated.

765
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 5: The software has not been updated a super long time.

766
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Speaker 1: Another a positive way to look at it would be,

767
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,720
Speaker 1: you know, I see a lot of kind of faux

768
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 1: spiritual stuff on Instagram whatnot of like live in the moment,

769
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: and that's living in the moment.

770
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Speaker 5: That's that's what I do now, just like I'm present bewhere,

771
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 5: your feet on the ground.

772
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: It's all that matters does down that and the three

773
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: teams we have left to talk about. Okay, So we

774
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: hit the BANG situation pretty hard on Sunday night. I

775
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: don't want to repeat what Nick Schook and I said

776
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: on that show. Joe Burrow is having surgery on the

777
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: turf toe. He's officially on injured reserve. As of Tuesday,

778
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 1: they activated Brett Rippon to the active roster, another one

779
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,479
Speaker 1: of your backups in your piece. I don't know if

780
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: they were cursed orre It was good luck because technically

781
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: he's making a lot more money.

782
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 3: It was not for Joe Burrow.

783
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 4: It is my fault, Brett Rippins.

784
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: Brett Rippin's getting a game check this week, and before

785
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: he was getting the practice squad check, so he's going

786
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 1: to be active. They also signed Sean Clifford and Mike

787
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 1: White to their practice squad, so they have a coming.

788
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 4: God, the room is full, yes, Oh my god.

789
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 2: What happens with Kirk Cousins?

790
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 4: Like, is no one is this not? I feel like

791
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 4: Atlanta just doesn't want to let him out of the building. Really,

792
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 4: I feel like they there the reports that you've heard

793
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 4: so far is that they're asking for so much, okay, right.

794
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 4: As the season continues, we'll see if that changes. But

795
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 4: the reports early on this year is that they're asking

796
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 4: an egregious amount, right, and we'll see how that shakes out.

797
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 4: Before the trade deadline, I predicted we didn't have the

798
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 4: tiny table in here, but I predicted that we'd see

799
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 4: at least two quarterbacks traded that's right deadline this year.

800
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 4: I think he'll be one of them.

801
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 1: We got a while, We got a while to go time. Yeah,

802
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: because you think like he would fit this offense. I

803
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: think Kirk Cousins that said, Jake Browning has been in

804
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: that building a long time. In twenty twenty three when

805
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: he played, you know, by far, the most football he's

806
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: ever played at the NFL level and really got to

807
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: the point where he got a nice contract and he's

808
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: staying with Cincinnati. For the seven games he started, he

809
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: led the NFL in completion percentage. He was eighth in

810
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 1: QBA ESPN's QBR that season. In games that Joe Burrow started,

811
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Speaker 1: they were five hundred and with Jake Browning they were

812
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: you know, four to three. I'm not saying that that's

813
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: that meaningful. But the offense wins are not a quarterbacks

814
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 1: no that so I said in games that Joe Burrow started,

815
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: you know, they weren't they didn't have that record, but

816
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: the team made up for it, and they made up

817
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,720
Speaker 1: for it in interesting ways. The offense was totally different

818
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 1: with Jake Browning. It was a lot more like the

819
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: Sean McVay Tree, Kyle Shanahan Tree offense were used to

820
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: seeing under center play action and much different than the

821
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: kind of Joe Burrow. I'm just back in shotgun call,

822
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: you know, almost running the offense myself. And on paper,

823
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: their schedule overall isn't that tough if you look at

824
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: the average opponent. But the defenses they play coming up

825
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: are brutal at Minnesota, at Denver, and then they have

826
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Speaker 1: the Lions at home and at Green Bay arguably three

827
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: best defenses, plus the Lions where you got to try

828
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: to outscore them.

829
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Speaker 2: So that's no wonder they have so many quarterbacks.

830
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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're like, it's bodies, they're loading bodies. They're like, yeah,

831
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 4: they need more.

832
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Speaker 1: Actually, oh wow, do you think they have enough defensively

833
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: offensive line coaching? Weapons, No weapons, yes, weapons, I just

834
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: mean overall to do kind of what they did a

835
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. But on a longer trajectory, if

836
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: it's three months minimum, that means he has to, you know,

837
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Speaker 1: play about twelve games. Let's say, can can he go

838
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: five and seven, which gets them to seven and seven

839
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: and then Joe Burrow can return.

840
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 5: If they lose four straight these four straight games, like

841
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 5: they that team falls apart.

842
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 4: Put them on ice at the point. Yeah, I don't

843
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 4: buy it yet. With their defense, I think they've showed

844
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 4: in terms of their run defense, they showed flashes. I

845
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 4: don't buy it yet. On their defense, their weapons are

846
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 4: the best among the best in the league. If not

847
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 4: the best one and two that you can possibly have,

848
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 4: that's great. They've got even a great three. They've got

849
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 4: a good pass catching tight end. You know, but think

850
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,399
Speaker 4: Chase Brown could run the ball. You know, I don't

851
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 4: buy it with their offensive line, especially coming up against

852
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 4: these groups that these defenses that they're coming up against.

853
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 4: You know, yes he looked good, and yes, scheme can

854
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 4: get you to a certain point. But when we talk

855
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 4: about these crazy streaks for backups and all of that,

856
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 4: we don't often say Zach Taylor's name. We say, like

857
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 4: Kevin O'Connell, Matt Lafleur with what he did with Malik

858
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 4: Willis and all these different types of things. I think

859
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 4: Zach Taylor, I'm a little anxious for him in terms

860
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 4: of he needs to kind of prove what he adds

861
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 4: brings to the table.

862
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Speaker 1: That's always been my thing, that's that he's the Polosher

863
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: of NFL coaches, Like he's totally fine, you know, but

864
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: like you're not super excited. And yet he kind of

865
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: did prove it with Jake Browning before that was in

866
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: some ways like the highlight of his NFL coaching career

867
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 1: that they developed this kid, Jake Brownie, who not a

868
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,720
Speaker 1: lot of people had high hopes about, and their offense

869
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: was pretty good with him. And oh, by the way,

870
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Speaker 1: he led a comeback victory in which he entered, you know,

871
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,240
Speaker 1: behind on the scoreboard and he threw a couple groaners

872
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: in terms of interceptions, but he also led them on

873
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: like a ninety plus yard Touchdow drive to win the game.

874
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he completed what nine of his last ten passes,

875
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 2: So you're gonna adapted.

876
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 5: But I do like the fact that so many of

877
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 5: his teammates are talking about how chill and calm he is,

878
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 5: even when everything else seems chaotic around him. That he's

879
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 5: just like a very I think Yoshibas said he's just

880
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 5: a chill bro like he's just easy to have a

881
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 5: good rapport with. So that's that's nice. At least he's

882
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 5: not like freaking out out there.

883
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

884
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: I asked how the Wesleyan Brothers were feeling about it,

885
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: and they they they had some level of optimism that

886
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: they he can keep the ship aflow. They also pointed

887
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 1: out that his that Jake Browning's girlfriend is conventionally attractive,

888
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: So just throwing that out there. That was one of

889
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: the comments. Where do we put the Bengals on the

890
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: anxiety Now?

891
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,919
Speaker 2: Everyone's googling this myself, so.

892
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: You know, are they the team were of the most

893
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: worried about on the bank list.

894
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 4: I'm more I'm more worried about Joe Burrow in a

895
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 4: vacuum than I am about the Bengals.

896
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 3: That's the thing.

897
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: It's more of an existential like losing the season, you know,

898
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: another season and he's just turning into an injury prone quarterback.

899
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 4: Oh, I hate that label.

900
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 3: First seem are they number one on this list?

901
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 4: Yeah? Well, they they maybe three him won for sure.

902
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 4: That's where I'm torn.

903
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: It's all we got to write the Bengals name, you know,

904
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: in general, you guys, where do you feel?

905
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think three. Let's go three? All right?

906
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 3: Right now?

907
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 1: The number one spot is still up for grabs. This

908
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: is a very confusing idea. I want to talk a

909
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: little bit about the Jets. So we were so high

910
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: on them to Justin Fields is in the concussion protocol.

911
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: I just wanted to get that in the show. We'll

912
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: be quick. We've talked a lot about the Jets. I'm

913
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: curious to hear what you think, Colleen, because yeah, they

914
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: had like the worst case scenario for week one, which

915
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: was like everyone was so excited about a moral victory

916
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: and then they got the doors blown off them in

917
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: week two.

918
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 3: What is your anxiety about this Jets do?

919
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 5: I feel like if it's if it's on an anxiety

920
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 5: meter like level that is just within not the one

921
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 5: on the whiteboard, but just a different one, it would

922
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 5: be like crippling self doubt.

923
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 4: But that is the Jets to me, right in Coster syndrome.

924
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 4: We've just seen We've.

925
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 5: Seen this movie so many times and it just feels

926
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 5: like the ending. It's not different ever, Like they come

927
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 5: out with different iterations of it, but it's always the

928
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 5: same result. And it's just I can't imagine. I'm so

929
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 5: sorry to Jets fans out there.

930
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 4: I would put them lower. If we're put them, I'd

931
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 4: put them lower, actually, because there was so much hope

932
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 4: after out of that Week one. But it was like

933
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 4: genuine there was proof of concept on their tape, and

934
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 4: like they have good young players along this offense. Even

935
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 4: you know Brice Hall, he'll bounce back and all of

936
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 4: these things. But they've got Brayln Allen behind him, who

937
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 4: looks great. Garrett Wilson is obviously locked in for a while.

938
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 4: I am such a believer in our on Membo. Their

939
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 4: offensive line looks good justin fields. You're gonna get feast

940
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 4: or famine games with him. You just are coming into

941
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 4: the season. You knew that. But when he's great, he

942
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 4: plays like the best quarterback in the NFL. And when

943
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 4: he struggles, you get these dips, right and so then

944
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 4: and then obviously you know him him being out, you're

945
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 4: gonna have to to sort of make hay with that

946
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 4: or him being the excuse me, the concussion protocol potentially

947
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 4: being out you might have to make hay with that.

948
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 4: But at the same time, we came into this season

949
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 4: saying about the Jets just want to see progress, right,

950
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 4: So that's why my anxiety isn't as high as because

951
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 4: you are seeing probably well.

952
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: You can't you can't have too many of those Week

953
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: two type of games. That was as bad a game

954
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: defensively as almost any in the Robert Salad. Really overall,

955
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 1: like it was an embarrassing performance. But yeah, my anxiety

956
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: is a little less for the Jets. So I'm gonna

957
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 1: put him at a five because it's about the process.

958
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: But Darren Muji some of the moves that he made

959
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 1: the GM in the offseason. Jamian Sherwood was a linebacker

960
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: they gave a big contract to is not working out

961
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: right now. They did not add enough of the wide

962
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: receiver position. They were a little thin there. They kept

963
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: this guy Michael Clemens, who all Jets fans wow, just

964
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: hate because he gets a personnel foul penalty and he's

965
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 1: not much of a passage or every single game.

966
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 4: You feel like brought the spiked bat or something to He's.

967
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 1: Done a lot and he got that. He got that

968
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 1: fifteen yarder against Josh Allen. So they're low on the list.

969
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: Let's wrap up with the Bears. They're zero to two,

970
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: and they made this segment because Jalen Johnson, their cornerback,

971
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: sounds like he's possibly out for this season, and it

972
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 1: just brings up like they're banged up in the back

973
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: end of their secondary on top of the inconsistencies they're

974
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 1: seeing out of Caleb Williams. So I think Ryan Poles

975
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: is going to feel the heat a little bit more

976
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 1: than Ben Johnson, because Ben Johnson, to me, is more

977
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: important in that organization. I know they gave Poles a

978
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 1: big contract, but he gave well they mean a lot

979
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: to like.

980
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 3: The Poles generations. But yes, I hear what you're saying.

981
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: I'm just saying he got he got generational money for

982
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: the next five years.

983
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 4: Okay, Greg, because clearly that's what I was talking about.

984
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 3: I know you're not. I'm just saying, yes it. Ryan

985
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 3: Poles is.

986
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 4: Like congrats to the Poles family for many generations. From

987
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 4: within the context and structure of the organization, it does

988
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 4: not mean a gd thing if the head coach is

989
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 4: in charge of everything and splits the power balance in

990
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 4: a way. As the season continues to where he is

991
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 4: running the show, then that extension the years on it

992
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 4: specifically do not mean anything.

993
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 5: I'm just so excited to bring up the Polls family

994
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 5: now all the time.

995
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 2: We should send them a Christmas card, we should start

996
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 2: a list.

997
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 1: He had, you know, four high picks, so everyone was

998
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: all excited about the Dj Moore trade. That you get

999
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: Dj Moore, you get all these extra picks. You end

1000
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: up with Caleb Williams. Everything ended up so perfect, but

1001
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 1: you do need to hit on those picks. I think

1002
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 1: Colston Lovelin's going to turn out to be a really

1003
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: good pick, but it was hard not to notice in

1004
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: this game. You know, between him and Luther Burden, they

1005
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: didn't have a catch. Those are their first two picks.

1006
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: Then their next two picks were literal health these scratches,

1007
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: their left tackle Ozzie Trappela, who they thought would maybe start,

1008
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: and then Shamar Turner or a defensive tackle at a

1009
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: position they're banged up in thin And that's where you

1010
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,760
Speaker 1: wonder a little bit about the coach and the GM

1011
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: if everyone's on the same page internally.

1012
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 4: I know there is optimism about Ozzi Trapilo over the

1013
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 4: long term, throwing him out in certain situations probably wouldn't

1014
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 4: be the healthiest thing to do, especially you know, Braxton

1015
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,439
Speaker 4: Jones was awful this last game. Was something like nine

1016
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 4: pressures that he allowed. But at the same time, like

1017
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 4: you have to walk that line almost like you do

1018
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 4: with quarterbacks. Is when do you put the new left

1019
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 4: tackle out there? And of course playing on the right

1020
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 4: side before that's that's different. Ben Johnson. The reason I

1021
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 4: have so much anxiety about this is Ben Johnson called

1022
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 4: out several of those players that you just mentioned when

1023
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 4: asked about it earlier this week by the Beat reporters

1024
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 4: there basically saying like, we're looking at the things they

1025
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 4: do away from the ball, and we'll see who wants

1026
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 4: to play the most. Oh, Like he basically was like,

1027
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 4: they're going to earn they're going to earn their looks,

1028
00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 4: they're going to earn their targets, they're going to earn

1029
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 4: their snap based on everything they do when they're not

1030
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 4: being targeted, and all of those things that we know

1031
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 4: are so important to him that he lost his freaking

1032
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 4: mind over all throughout training camp, the little details when

1033
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 4: you're not actually the one getting the ball, it goes

1034
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 4: the anxiety goes beyond the quarterback, who I think I

1035
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,479
Speaker 4: saw progress from Caleb Williams this week, despite the fact

1036
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 4: that the score was so lopsided. I'm anxious about the defense.

1037
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 4: The denistance is off. We should have let you know

1038
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,399
Speaker 4: before the showistis the denisance that we saw for three

1039
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 4: quarters is very much off. We're calling it at this point.

1040
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: It's so it's so tricky judging early in the season

1041
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: because you don't two games, right.

1042
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 3: You also don't know schedule.

1043
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 4: Wise, two games and a lot of gum.

1044
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 3: Like okay, looking great against J. J.

1045
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: McCarthy for three quarters apparently like a lot of defenses

1046
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: probably could have could have done that in Week one,

1047
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: and so you don't really know. It's like last year

1048
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: when the Saints had those those great games.

1049
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 4: What I was going to say, taking the.

1050
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 1: Words right out of my mouth, Yes, like they ended

1051
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: up in the in the end, having faced two of

1052
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: the words rush defenses in NFL history, But no one

1053
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 1: knew that.

1054
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 2: Clint kobyac is amazing.

1055
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: Okay, Bears, I guess the only spot left is number one.

1056
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: But we can make a change. Do you think the Vikings,

1057
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 1: the Bengals or the Chiefs deserve to be at number

1058
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: one over the Bears, or do you think you're most

1059
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: anxious about the Bears. I agree with your point about

1060
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams. We can talk about him on the previous show.

1061
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 1: I think he took a step forward, even if some

1062
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: of the bad things were similarly.

1063
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 4: I think, And let me explain my particular brand of anxiety.

1064
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 4: It's called high functioning anxiety. Okay, Basically, what it means

1065
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 4: is you're anxious pretty much all the time, but you

1066
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 4: also use it as a sort of an adrenaline drip

1067
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 4: to fuel you into working as much as you possibly can. Yes,

1068
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 4: and that's what I think the Bears have, and that's

1069
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 4: why I put them at WOK and I think they

1070
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 4: are going to need that. Honestly, that is the particular brand.

1071
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: The fans are so disappointed right now. To me, the

1072
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: Bears and the Vikings are one so really because they

1073
00:49:58,280 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 1: don't know about their young.

1074
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 4: Sou much different.

1075
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 2: At this point in the year.

1076
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 5: Ben Johnson was even like, we're not going to look

1077
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 5: fully fired, not even after Forgate Exactly.

1078
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 4: It's a great point to bring up, Colleen, because I

1079
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 4: did not expect them to look great. I know, Gay,

1080
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 4: this is going to take some time. I think we

1081
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 4: all knew that. However, I think you need this palpable

1082
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 4: tense anxiety that drives you into really honing in on

1083
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 4: the details. So when people look at your board on

1084
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 4: the screen, they're going to get mad at this obviously

1085
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 4: when they hear the explanation. This is why why, Yeah,

1086
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 4: this is why I think that they are.

1087
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 1: I think I might be more personally anxious about the

1088
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: Vikings because I think there's nothing worse than an off

1089
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: season of excitement, and now they're in this weird period

1090
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks where there is part of

1091
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: I think every Vikings head, you know, fans head, and

1092
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: it's not fair wondering.

1093
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Speaker 3: Like, shoot, did we get the right quarterback?

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Speaker 1: And I think Bears fans feel that too, And that's

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00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,919
Speaker 1: why I think, yeah one and two, but at least

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00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: Caleb's shown a little more, well, leave.

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Speaker 5: I'm way more anxious about the chiefs of the Viking

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00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 5: interest and you guys, I like it, but the chiefs

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00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:02,760
Speaker 5: for me are higher.

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Speaker 4: What what if we put Yeah, well, I'm going to

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Speaker 4: do some erasure.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about Thursday night football.

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Speaker 4: Oh right, who is the anti anxiety team? Who's a

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00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 4: vibey team like a zen.

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00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 3: I think are like the me of of teams, you know.

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Speaker 4: I think we owe to break.

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Speaker 1: I'm a lot of things. I don't think anxious is one.

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00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 1: I'm not anxious is now one of them. Oblivius is

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Speaker 1: maybe one.

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00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 4: I often describe you as a calming presence in my life.

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00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: Shut up, all right, I'm going to put the Vikings

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00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 1: now number one. I'm sorry to the Vikings fans and

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00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,919
Speaker 1: the Bears. The Bears are going to be number two.

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00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:48,760
Speaker 1: And yes, if you're curious, the final list Vikings, Bears, Bengals, Chiefs, Jets, Panthers,

1115
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 1: and Commanders. As written by your local eight year old boy.

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00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: It's beyond anxiety in Miami. They are twelve and a

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00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: half point underdogs in Buffalo on a short week. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's the Prime Video team with Al Michaels and Kirk Herbstreet.

1119
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: Let's listen to Mike McDaniel, the Dolphins coach, talking about

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Speaker 1: why he thought TNF was actually a good thing for

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00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: the Dolphins.

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Speaker 6: Thursday night games. Are you know after a loss that

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00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 6: they can be a blessing because you have no time

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00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 6: to think about anything else? And quite literally, you know

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Speaker 6: I kind of paint a picture that I think they

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00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 6: the team is, you know, understanding, is that every moment

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00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,240
Speaker 6: that your spend not preparing, that you spend thinking about

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Speaker 6: anything but the opponent is going to serve you in

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Speaker 6: the worse.

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Speaker 3: M He looks older.

1131
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: The things that happens to NFL coaches has now happened

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00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: to Mike McDaniel.

1133
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's it's aging like presidential years, so.

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00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 1: He's feeling a lot of pressure. You know, in this matchup,

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00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: he's lost sixth straight. If you think about these two teams,

1136
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, the Dolphins were that fun,

1137
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: up and coming, trendy team. They go to Buffalo in

1138
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: the snow. I remember watching that game for that game, Oh,

1139
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 1: you were at the game. It was a great game,

1140
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: I think because.

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00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 2: The Dolphins almost won. They came back. It was a

1142
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 2: close game, right, I.

1143
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,240
Speaker 3: Was at the game. I think it was a Saturday

1144
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 3: night game.

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00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: I was at Hanana with Lakeisha, our friend, watching that game,

1146
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: and it was so close. It was great and it

1147
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: actually was like a moral victory. People were like, you

1148
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: know what, they can play in the snow.

1149
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 3: It was tough.

1150
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: It was back and forth, but the Bills came out

1151
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,479
Speaker 1: and won. And since then they've played five more times.

1152
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: The Dolphins have been close a couple times, but they've

1153
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: also been blown out three of them. It's not a

1154
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 1: good matchup for the Dolphins, even in good times. And

1155
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 1: you think about this Bills offense, especially their running game.

1156
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: I think they are are fifth right now in DVOA.

1157
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: They are first overall and EPA per play, and I

1158
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: think people kind of sleep on how good this running

1159
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,919
Speaker 1: game is, even outside of Josh Allen running the book.

1160
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Speaker 5: That's the that's the matchup for me that I highlighted

1161
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 5: first was James Cook obviously coming off a huge game,

1162
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 5: and then this Dolphins run defense has just been obliterated

1163
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 5: these first two weeks. They allowed one hundred and fifty

1164
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 5: six yards to the Colts in Week one and then

1165
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 5: one hundred and twenty two to the Patriots. And now

1166
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 5: you have James Cook and Josh Allen they're gonna eat.

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Speaker 3: And little Ray Davis mix in there. Yeahs.

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Speaker 4: And that's the cool thing about what the Bills can

1169
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 4: do on offense is, Hey, let's say James Cook had

1170
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 4: a massive workload and you need to, you know, rep

1171
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 4: share a little bit going into a certain matchup. Where

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00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 4: you'd think, Okay, this is a safer one to split

1173
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 4: a little bit, and then also present different looks, more

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00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 4: unscoted looks that maybe the Dolphins wouldn't be expecting out

1175
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 4: of the two bags or out of Ray Davis, who

1176
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Speaker 4: I mentioned this before. Seemed like Joe Brady had so

1177
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 4: much fun scheming up plays for you know, whenever he

1178
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 4: has been in the game. Yeah, this is really concerning.

1179
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 4: I think where I fed up with the Bills. Eric,

1180
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 4: I know you're listening closely on this one. It was

1181
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 4: I dramatically underrated how much this offense could band aid

1182
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,240
Speaker 4: over the defense because I'm still concerned about the Bill's

1183
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 4: defense right I'm concerned about upfront at Oliver getting injured

1184
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 4: before last week's game. He is their best defensive player.

1185
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 4: I'm concerned about their depth along their line. I'm concerned

1186
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:36,760
Speaker 4: about their safeties and their corners. I am concerned about

1187
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 4: their linebackers and the angles that they've been taking against

1188
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 4: the run. And I think the thing that happens is

1189
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Speaker 4: that Josh Allen and the absolute power and dynamism and

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Speaker 4: the multiplicity of what this offense can do and the

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00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 4: depth that it has run and pass now makes that

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00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 4: to where you almost you almost forget to worry about

1193
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Speaker 4: the Bill's defense. I still am, but maybe should not

1194
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 4: have been quite so worried out of the gate.

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00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 5: I think they'll probably look a little bit better, so

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00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 5: you should rest assured this week against the Miami offensive

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00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 5: rest assured me?

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00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, Yeah, Dolphins are down a few starters on

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Speaker 1: the offensive line the Bills. You mentioned at Oliver, he

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00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: hasn't been at practice, so it sounds like he's gonna

1201
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: miss this game. To Ron Johnson, their excellent slot cornerback

1202
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: was back at practice on Tuesday, so that's trending towards returning.

1203
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: Matt Mulano might return to practice on Wednesday, but did

1204
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Speaker 1: miss Tuesday, so he might be out too. I actually

1205
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 1: think the Dolphins, you know, offense, look like the Dolphins

1206
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: offense for the most part against New England. If they're

1207
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: gonna win, it's gonna be by scoring a lot of points.

1208
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: It's going to be by running the ball. Devon eight

1209
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: Chin has looked pretty good. The problem is, like the

1210
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,240
Speaker 1: difference in these two teams when the quarterbacks are pressured. Obviously,

1211
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: Josh Allen is incredible. Yeah, when he's pressured, When Tua

1212
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 1: tongue of Ailoa is pressured, he just gets sacked.

1213
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Speaker 3: I couldn't believe this.

1214
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: On PFF he has a pressure to sack ratio of

1215
00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 1: fifty percent. They're actually according to like pressure person. Now

1216
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: he gets rid of the ball quickly, not as quickly

1217
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: as he used to, but still quite quickly compared to average,

1218
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: like one of the fastest guys in the league. But

1219
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 1: he is kind of panicking. He is not a guy

1220
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,399
Speaker 1: who can come up with an out of structure play,

1221
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: and he is just going down. And Joey Bosa one

1222
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: thing I regretted not mentioning on a recap show, had

1223
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: one of the most Joey Bosa games ever in Week two.

1224
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: He's played twenty six snaps and had seven pressures, two

1225
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: forced fumbles, a sack, and a quarterback hit. And they're

1226
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: really using him in the ideal way for Joey Bosa,

1227
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: just like thirty snaps a game, and he looks really fresh.

1228
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Speaker 3: So that's one really positive thing.

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Speaker 5: Two at the beginning of the season, just how he

1230
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 5: doesn't have to be the guy there now, which it's different,

1231
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 5: it's a way different role for him, But mentally I

1232
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 5: think that that's probably really helping him because he just

1233
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 5: knows he can pick his spots and be so super dominant.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and let's not forget too that after two more

1235
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 4: games they get Michael Hoyt and Larry Ogunjobi back, and

1236
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,479
Speaker 4: that's going to be really significant when I talk about

1237
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 4: worrying about their depth all along the line. That's another

1238
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 4: really good inside and outside pass rusher that you get

1239
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 4: in Michael Hoyt, who they're so high on over there,

1240
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 4: despite the suspension for substance issue illegal substance, I'd probably

1241
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 4: butchered that d D.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't slept, guys, no one would have noticed.

1243
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 3: You're nailing it. I like the hat, I like the chain.

1244
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 3: It's all working.

1245
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 2: Thanks Grect.

1246
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 3: I feel like that's the new one. Usually how I

1247
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 3: come in, it's just it's just Tuesday for Colleen.

1248
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: I think last thing I'll say in this game is

1249
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 1: I think the Dolphins pass rush has probably been the

1250
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: most disappointing part of their team, where a lot of

1251
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 1: the resources are Chop Robinson's been very quiet. After a

1252
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: great rookie year, Bradley Chubb, Jalen Phillips haven't really been

1253
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: making a huge impact. And again they're going up against the.

1254
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 4: Most continuous offensive line in football, right right.

1255
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, year after year, week after week. It's the same guys,

1256
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 1: and it is really a weapon. And so it's a

1257
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 1: tough matchup for them, and they will mix it up

1258
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: in terms of what they show. Josh Allen, I think

1259
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: you have to disguise, you have to confuse him, because

1260
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: I do think that's that's something that doesn't show up

1261
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: in the box score. But man, Josh Allen is just

1262
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: on another level mentally. I think it's true with him

1263
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 1: and Lamar. It's not like they weren't before, but you

1264
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: play six seven years in the NFL, they are now

1265
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: to me at their very fully formed like like intell,

1266
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 1: you know, athletic peak, and obviously they're only going to

1267
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 1: keep getting smarter in terms of experience, but now they're

1268
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 1: at another level, Like, you better send some disguises at

1269
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: Josh Allen or else he's gonna kill you.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

1271
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 1: Maybe the Dolphins cover twelve and a half at the

1272
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 1: very least, but it would be shocking if one. Yeah,

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00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 1: twelve and a half, Okay, that's the prime video game.

1274
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: We will preview every single game on our mega preview

1275
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 1: show AFC and an NFC are you going to be

1276
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: ready for that?

1277
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 3: Like you will get some sleep.

1278
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 4: I was ready for this.

1279
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 5: You no what.

1280
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 4: You don't have to get ready if you stay ready.

1281
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:14,479
Speaker 1: That's right, that's I'm fired up. Let's take a break

1282
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 1: and come back in about twenty four hours.

1283
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 3: The NFL Preview show amazing. Every single game.

1284
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 4: That was a pro host pivot.

1285
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 1: You've done it, Steve Weiss in the in the studio,

1286
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 1: Patrick Claybahn in the studio.

1287
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 3: We'll hit every single game. I can't wait.

1288
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 4: It was great to have you back for great to

1289
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 4: be back. Love you guys.

1290
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Speaker 3: We will see you next Tuesday.