1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Chelsea Handler. Welcome to Life Will Be the 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Death of Me, a production of I Heart Radio Good Morning. 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: I am here with someone that I know a lot 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 1: of my listeners and bands are very interested in hearing from. 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: Her name is Laura Lynn Jackson. She is a well 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,159 Speaker 1: let me, how do you classify yourself psychic medium? That 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: would be the exact proper way to say it, psychic 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 1: psychic medium. You've written two books so far. The first 9 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: book was called The Light between Us The Light between Us, 10 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: and the second book that just came out is called Signs, 11 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: The Secret Language of the Universe. And I met Laura 12 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: Lynn with my book editor, who helped me my most 13 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: recent book, Life Will Be the Death of Me, which 14 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: this podcast is eponymous le named after. And we went 15 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: to dinner and she was telling me all about her 16 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,319 Speaker 1: shenanigans as a psychic medium, and I was like, well, 17 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: I need a reading stat So we got on the 18 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: phone one night and you gave me about I think 19 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: a three hour reading. Yeah. I lose track of time 20 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: when I read, so it probably was about three hours 21 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: a three hour and I wrote a lot of it 22 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: down and some of it happened, some of it did 23 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: not happen. But you said at the time that these 24 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: things You're big into manifestation and talking about writing things down, 25 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: like you know, the type of person, the type of man. 26 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to go home and to write down 27 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: all those qualities, which I believe I did. And well, 28 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: he still hasn't come, but I believe he's coming. Oh, 29 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: he's definitely coming. I was going to show up. Yeah, yeah, 30 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: because I'm getting really ready for a real relationship, like 31 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 1: I'm I've almost completely lost interest in just sex. So 32 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: something better come along. Anyway, your new book, I opened 33 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: it up. I got an advanced copy and I started 34 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: reading it and the first chapter was about oranges and 35 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: how oranges are instruments that can be used to communicate 36 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: with people who have died. Yeah, so that caught my 37 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: attention because you know how I feel about oranges, and 38 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: orange is the theme of my new cannabis line coming 39 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: out my my book My Life Everything. Everybody needs an 40 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: orange amazing, And and you can hand somebody an orange, 41 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: it's like handing somebody a lifeline. Like so I throw 42 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: them out at the end of my stand up shows. 43 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: And I've taken the color orange back because it was 44 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,399 Speaker 1: such a disruptive color for me for so long after 45 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: the election because it represented the color of our president. 46 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: But I want to talk about oranges. How you start 47 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: out with oranges, Because once you convinced me to start 48 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: asking for signs from my brother, from my mother, I did, 49 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: and then they would appear. And it was mind boggling 50 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: because I didn't really believe in that, and I was 51 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: cynical about it. I still am a little bit cynical 52 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 1: about it. But I think when you really believe in something, 53 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: that power is more powerful than almost anything. And I 54 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: think you can make things happen. I think we all 55 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: know you can make things happen. So when I asked, 56 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 1: I asked my brother to show me an orange. Recently, 57 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: I was in New Orleans. I have the picture on 58 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: my phone. I said, please show me a picture out 59 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: of place, and let me know if you're with my 60 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: cousin who had recently passed away. Show me two oranges 61 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: if you're with him, and show me one orange if 62 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: you're not. And I saw a huge, giant, oversized, plastic 63 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: kind of um orange on the roof of somebody's car, 64 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: like the size of one of those what are those 65 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: trump balloons? They make what are those things called them? Sorry, 66 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: I'm so tired, I can't even think of words. You know, 67 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: the things that fly up in the sky like an 68 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: inflated It was like one of those on top of 69 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: the car. And I was like, okay, so then Eddie's 70 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: not there, my cousin who passed away. And I told 71 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,119 Speaker 1: my aunts, and I told my cousins who are really 72 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: grieving because they lost their cousin and their father about 73 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: this book. And I told them about the oranges with 74 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: my brother, and I told them to pick a sign 75 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: for each of them individually between their brother and their father. 76 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: And they've all seen signs since it does work, So 77 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: why does it work? It works because you know, death 78 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: is not the end of anything. It's not a dead end. 79 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: It's a doorway. And the relationships we have, the love 80 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: that we have for the people who have crossed to 81 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: the other side, that connects us, you know. And I 82 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: think that when the when we cross, we are always 83 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: looking number one to let our loved ones here. You 84 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: know that we're really okay that you know, our consciousness 85 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: survived the bodily death, and I think we definitely don't 86 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 1: want our loved ones getting stuck in grief, you know, 87 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: getting caught in a phase of living but not living, 88 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: or you know, missing them so much physically that we 89 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: can't enjoy life, and we can't you know, find our 90 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: highest path and do what we're meant to do in 91 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: the world. So I think the other side is deeply 92 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: invested in trying to communicate with us and letting us 93 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: know that they're around, they're watching over us, they love us, 94 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: they're rooting us on, and yes, they can even guide us. 95 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: And that's what this language is all about, you know, 96 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: whether or not anyone recognizes it immediately, anybody who has 97 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: someone on the other side, those people on the other 98 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,799 Speaker 1: side have been trying to guide you your whole life, 99 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: you know, so they send default science. That's what I've 100 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: learned to to identify a lot of the signs that 101 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: they'll send if we don't specifically ask for something. But 102 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: the beautiful thing is that when we do ask for 103 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: something specific, we get it. That's why, you know, I 104 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: totally get being skeptical. If I didn't have the abilities 105 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: I have, if I didn't have the experiences that I've had, 106 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 1: I don't know that i'd believe in it. I really 107 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: don't um you bring up being cynical. You know, being cynical, 108 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: it's not being skeptical. That means that you think everybody 109 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: is out, you know, for themselves, and there's always an angle. 110 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: I don't think you're cynical at all, Chelsea. I think 111 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: you're yeah, I guess skeptical. I I think you're listening 112 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: if you listen to this podcast. You know that I 113 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: like to correct people for doing that, and then I 114 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: do it myself. Yet No, but you know what words 115 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: hold energy, and I just want you to know like 116 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: you are definitely skeptical in all the great ways that 117 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: you should be. I don't think anyone should ever listen 118 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: to let's say, uh, supposed psychic medium tell them something 119 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: and be like, oh okay, I believe that. Add percent. 120 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: I think we are meant to go on our own 121 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: journey as I'm understanding, and we're meant to test it 122 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: and seek our answer. But the beautiful thing is is 123 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: when you do get your answer, when you do get 124 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: your sign, the most important step there is owning it. 125 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: What I love about you is that you tested it, 126 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: it came through for you, and now you are being 127 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: a teacher to others, like, look what you're doing within 128 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: your own family. You're helping to heal, you're helping to teach, 129 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: You're helping others understand that there is still this language 130 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: of communication. You know, we might not have arms to 131 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: hug our loved ones once we cross. You might not 132 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: have voice boxes to say I love you out loud, 133 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: But there are other ways that our loved ones are 134 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,239 Speaker 1: coming through to us, are letting us know they're around 135 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: and and helping us find our highest and best path 136 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: because they have a way better view of things on 137 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: the other side than we do here. Yeah, okay, So 138 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: this book opens Signs the Secret Language of the Universe. 139 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: This book opens with a story also about a group 140 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: of sisters and a father who lost their mother. So 141 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: these are testimonies of people who have asked, who have 142 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: seen signs, or who have asked to see signs. And 143 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: now this group of women didn't ask to see signs, right, 144 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: they just she came upon. Why don't you tell the story? 145 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: Which one are you talking about? The four three or 146 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: four sisters that lost the mother? The Queen of Hearts? Oh, 147 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: the Queen of Hearts story. Yeah, that's a beautiful one, right, Yeah, 148 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: that is this book that's like a couple of chapters 149 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: in that's because I've I've retold the story and I'm 150 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: pretty sure I'm butchering it. Yeah. No, you're actually doing 151 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: a great job, you know. And all these stories are 152 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: beautiful because they're shared by people who have agreed to 153 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: share their stories in order to help others understand. So 154 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: there's a woman named Nancy and her mother, also named Nancy, 155 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: had crossed, and you know, she hadn't asked for a 156 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: sign or a language, and she was on a trip 157 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: on an airplane when her mom crossed, and she had 158 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: this sense that her mom was crossing. And when she 159 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: got to her destination, she found something very odd on 160 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: the ground. That day she found these playing cards and 161 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: the Queen of Hearts was flipped up like a to 162 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: show the picture face up, thank you. See I can't 163 00:07:54,720 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: speak in her York, New York. We're filming this, we're 164 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,119 Speaker 1: so she thought, you know what, if my mom would 165 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: have been a playing card, she would have totally been 166 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: the Queen of Hearts, because she's all about love and 167 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: she's all about that. And then she got to her 168 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: next destination the next day, and there it was again, 169 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: the Queen of Hearts playing card like on a trail 170 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: out of nowhere, and she started recognizing, like, I think 171 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: this is my mom sending me a sign, and sure 172 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: enough it started coming up again and again. So she 173 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: kind of shared that with her family and they all 174 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: started getting their own Queen of hearts and like really 175 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: unbelievable ways, you know. And it was their moms showing 176 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: them like I'm with you, I'm around, and it ended 177 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: up really helping their entire family on this journey of grief. Well, 178 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: it's just so much more comforting to think that you 179 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: can still communicate with people. That's all anyone wants. And 180 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: when we're when we are sitting our pain and get 181 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: stuck in our pain, you know, it's because we don't 182 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: believe that we're still hurt by the loss of that 183 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: instead of the gratitude for having had the time with them, 184 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: and for the gratitude and having and and and and 185 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: to honor their lives, you know. That was something we 186 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: talked about, is honoring those who have died instead of 187 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: mourning them. Of course we have to mourn for a 188 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 1: period of time, and that's appropriate, but we get stuck 189 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: in our grief, and we got stuck in our pain, 190 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: and I know my entire book was about getting stuck 191 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: in grief and not being aware to it or aware 192 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: of it, you know. So it's really therapeutic. And I 193 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: have a Facebook group which I absolutely love called the 194 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: Orange Room, which was based on the book, where people 195 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 1: come and they talk about grief and loss and it's 196 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 1: a completely supportive community. And a lot of people on 197 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: that page have talked about asking for science as well. 198 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: So can you talk to us a little bit like 199 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: about how this works? I mean, I believe in energy, 200 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: you know, I don't believe in God as a person 201 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: of the sky. I believe in energy, and I believe 202 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: the fact that you could feel somebody's energy just says 203 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: alone how powerful it is. And that energy doesn't ever die, 204 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: it transforms. That's a lot of Eckart tole. He talks 205 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: about that, how your energy can't die, and when you're 206 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: with a person who dies, you can see the shift 207 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: and energy leave their body and that energy has to 208 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: transform into something else and whatever else that is is 209 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 1: essentially the essence of who you are as a as 210 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: an energy, and that is scientific to me, and that 211 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: makes sense. Um, So let's talk a little bit about that. Sorry, Yeah. 212 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: First of all, I love that you have this this 213 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: kind of forum and this safe space for people to 214 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 1: examine and discuss and beyond their grief journeys. I think, 215 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: you know, the one absolute for all of us here 216 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: is that we're going to die, We're going to leave 217 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: our physical bodies, and yet we live in fear. We 218 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: don't talk about it. We don't talk about our grief. 219 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: You know, grief can be a really private thing, but 220 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be. And I think that helping 221 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: others through their grief and helping others honor their grief 222 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: is one of the greatest and bravest things we can 223 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: do for each other. Um. You know, it makes us 224 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: very vulnerable to honor our grief and to to trust 225 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: in that journey. But I think grief is really just 226 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: the inverse of love. It's showing how much we love 227 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: that person. I think it's very difficult when someone we 228 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: love transitions out of their physical body to the other side, 229 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: because we're so used to the physicality of things here, 230 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,719 Speaker 1: you know, tangible things, things we can touch, things we 231 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: can hold, So it's very unsettling to have faith in 232 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: that or trust in that that that person is still 233 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: connected to us, still watching over us, that that consciousness 234 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: still exists, and that's where signs come in. You know 235 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 1: what I became to understand very early on in doing 236 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 1: what I do, um, you know, being a psychic medium, 237 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: basically talking to the other side. Every time I would 238 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: do a reading, I would be learning from the other side. 239 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: I'd be learning about why we're here, which is really 240 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: so simple to love and be loved, and you know, 241 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: I would learn how the other side would be already 242 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: involved in our lives. And there would be some default 243 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: signs they kept showing me. They would send people to 244 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 1: get their attention. You know. One of them was putting 245 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: coins in their loved ones path, and I don't know 246 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: why that is. I think that when we leave our 247 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: physical bodies, we turn back into light energy, and for 248 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: whatever reason, it's easy for us to maybe manipulate small 249 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: metallic objects like coins. So putting a coin in someone's 250 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: path on a day that's meaningful or during a moment 251 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: when they're really feeling full of grief, just to let 252 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: them know like, hey, I'm with you, I'm around. And 253 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: I always say, pay attention to the dates on the 254 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: coins too, because sometimes there's a message there um messing 255 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: with electrical electrical things. They love to do that. So 256 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: you know, back in the day was flickering the lights, 257 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:23,719 Speaker 1: turning the TV on and off. But now that we 258 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: have cell phones, I say, pay attention to words that 259 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: might change in your textbox, odd texts. You might get 260 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:35,479 Speaker 1: phone calls on interesting dates, whether their anniversaries, crossing dates, birthdays, 261 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: because they still love to acknowledge those things, and then 262 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 1: sending us creatures. Certain creatures I've found are pretty prevalent birds, 263 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:47,359 Speaker 1: all different kinds of birds, you know, butterflies, dragonflies, ladybugs, 264 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: even dear And so, you know, I'm always wondering what's 265 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: the science behind this, because the truth is that I 266 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: know this is real. I'm not a woo woo person. 267 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: You know, I was raised by two teachers. I was 268 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: raised to be a critical thinker. It took me decades 269 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: to come to terms with my abilities and own them 270 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: and and honor them properly. And so I'm always wondering, 271 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: how does this work. We're in this physical world and 272 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: there are certain rules, you know, physical rules rules of 273 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: you know, science that we abide by. But yet the 274 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 1: other side can still talk to us. And what I 275 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: found about the creatures they tend to send or all 276 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: those creatures are guided by electromagnetic fields here on Earth, 277 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: so I think somehow it's easy for them to get 278 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: them in our path. What I quickly began to understand 279 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: is that it's not a one sided language. We can 280 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: ask them for specific things and they can send it 281 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: to us, and I think that is more evidential than anything. 282 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: The thing that I love about getting science is the 283 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: more eccentric you make them, the more quickie you make them, 284 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: the more that monkey mind part of your brain, that 285 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: frontal lobe, you know, the part that the part that 286 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: meditation teachers say we have to like distract when we meditate. 287 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: That monkey mind, that chattering, that monkey mind will always 288 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: wrestle with any spiritual experience you have. In any sign 289 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: you see, you go oh, Like my friend said, where 290 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: did you see the orange? And I was like, well, 291 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: you know, the first time I asked for it, I 292 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: was in a grocery store, but there were two one 293 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: there were two oranges separated from the pack. And I 294 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 1: walked in there specifically to see the oranges and see 295 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: if there was a sign. And she said, well, obviously 296 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: you're going to a grocery store. You know, there's an 297 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: argument for everything and whatever and um, and I do 298 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: believe it. I mean I know it now because I've 299 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: because I've feel and you know when you say woo woo, 300 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: I I know what you mean because of my resistance. 301 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: And you know, there's an embarrassment to say I believe 302 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: in I believe in it, and people are, you know, 303 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: ashamed to say it and share it with people. But 304 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: it's really all that's important is what you believe. And 305 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: if you believe in anything, that power exceeds everything else. 306 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: And it's such a comfort to know that I can 307 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: tap into my mom and my brother now when I 308 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: want to. I feel them around me all the time, 309 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: and sometimes they're not around. And that's a question I 310 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: have for you. You know, my brother died a long 311 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: long time ago. My mother died, you know, about ten 312 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: years ago. What about you know, I think you believe 313 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: in reincarnation. Okay, so how if if I'm still able 314 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: to communicate with these people, that means that they haven't reincarnated, 315 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: That means they're still in that land. What would you 316 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: call that? I call it the other side Okay, the 317 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: other side land. We'll call it that. And by the way, 318 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: if it's if they're if they're known for messing with technology, 319 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: then that explains my entire life because ever since my 320 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: mother died, that is something my mom would do as 321 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: fun with my audio visual at my house, everything at 322 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: my house is operated by iPads and nothing ever works. 323 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: I can't get the music on or off. I can't 324 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: get the TV on or off. I can't watch shows 325 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: that I like. I just have to watch what's on 326 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: because I'm scared about turning the channel. And that is 327 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: what my mother would do. She would torture me with electronics. 328 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: So I never made that connection. So Brandon, if you're 329 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: listening in l A, which you're supposed to be, but 330 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: apparently he didn't get up early enough today, that's the 331 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: the explanation for our audio visual situation. So where if 332 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: you believe in reincarnation, what is holding these people back 333 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: from reincarnating? Or does everybody not reincarnate? Yeah, it's really 334 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: great questions like how does that whole thing work? You know. 335 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: I think that there's a couple of things to try 336 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: to understand with that, and I'm very aware that the 337 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: other side has explained it to me in a sense 338 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: that it's the best that I can do to understand 339 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: it in the way they're giving it to me. But 340 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: I'm very aware that my brain is really like a 341 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: dunce cap, you know, I have the small little mind. 342 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: Right now, here's what they've told me. They have told 343 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: me that earth is a school for our souls to 344 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: learn a collective lesson in love, and that we are 345 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: only as strong as our weakest link, which is why 346 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: each of us are invested in each other's journeys and 347 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: part of each other's journeys and profound ways we can't 348 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: even fathom. Um, we are really always like our sole 349 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: essence is really always on what I call the other side, 350 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: and so our experiences here are almost like this is 351 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: the visual they've given me. Have you ever do you 352 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: know what a may pole is? No? Okay, So I 353 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: learned this back in elementary school because we did this. 354 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: It was like a pole in the ground. It it 355 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: dates back to like, you know, olden days, let's just 356 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 1: put it like that, And there were strings coming off 357 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: of it, and kids would hold the strings and walk 358 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: in a circle like singing songs sometimes to kind of celebrate, 359 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: you know. I had to start with a tennis ball, 360 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: whether there were tennis balls that in Maple. Well, it 361 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: will counter like, you'll totally understand that this is what 362 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: they said. They said, all of our lives are really 363 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: happening at the same time. That time doesn't exist. Um. 364 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 1: It exists here on earth, but it really doesn't exist 365 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: in theory, you know. And scientists have kind of acknowledges. 366 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:32,959 Speaker 1: They used to say we were three dimensional beings. In 367 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 1: the last ten years, they're like, okay, actually we're four 368 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: dimensional beings and time is the fourth dimension. The interesting 369 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: thing too, is that quantum physicists are doing some experiments 370 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: when it comes to the relativity relativity of time and 371 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: how it affects things on They watch how a beam 372 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: of light passes through something it has to pass as 373 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: a wave or a beam or something like this, and 374 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: and depending on whether it chooses one in they do 375 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: experiments around this. Right, So what they've reached only proven 376 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: and I'm doing a terrible job. I'm butchering this, so 377 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: anybody who's listening can google this after. But what they've 378 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,719 Speaker 1: recently proven is that we all know the past affects 379 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 1: the future. But they have proven through watching this beam 380 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: of light that the future affects the past, which is 381 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: really this mind baggling, fascinating concept. But it also fits 382 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 1: into my understanding of reincarnation, which is we're all affecting 383 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: each other at all different times, and any any existence, 384 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 1: any personality, any person we ever were, it's all tied 385 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: to our choressence on the other side, and so it's 386 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: almost like we're Russian dolls within ourselves, but time is 387 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: allowing us to experience it here in a certain way. 388 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: Typically soul groups will reincarnate together, and so we usually 389 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: wait till all of us get over there, and we're 390 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: usually on a shared soul mission of understanding and healing 391 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: and growing within both our own families and the world 392 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: outside of us, and then we choose to come back together. 393 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: It's almost like in a cycle. You know. The University 394 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: of Virginia has a lab that's doing some really interesting 395 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: studies on past life recall is specifically in children, right, 396 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: because there's no way a child can make up anything, right, 397 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: there's no hidden agenda for a child to try and 398 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: talk about past life recall. And it's fascinating what they 399 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: find and it seems like, um, if a soul comes 400 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: back a little too quickly. They have past life recall, 401 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: and I think that complicates their lifetime here because then 402 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: they're looking for their old mom and their old family 403 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: and so forth. When we're meant to Okay, now, embrace 404 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: this or you know, I think that there's a lot 405 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: I don't understand about it. But from what they've taught me, 406 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: we come back together to heal each other, to help 407 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: each other grow. There has never been a time that 408 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: I've read for someone and you know, they've told me like, Okay, 409 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: I got to the other side, but the person I 410 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: was looking for wasn't here. They had left already. That 411 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: will never happen. The people we love, the essence of 412 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: who they are, their personalities are always on the other side. 413 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:57,719 Speaker 1: So you're saying, my mom could be on the other 414 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: side while also being here too, Yes she could, she could. 415 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: I don't have the sense that she is back here, right, 416 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 1: I don't either. Okay, Well, this sounds like a good 417 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 1: time to take a break. Something that is interesting when 418 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: I meditate for a while. Anyway, when my book was 419 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: coming out, and I was really focused on spreading that 420 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: message of like, you know, getting yourself better and getting 421 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: yourself over your hurdles, and getting out the anger because 422 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: the anger is only just hurt. And I would meditate 423 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: every morning and I would call, like, you know, my 424 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: brother and my mother would come and I would feel 425 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: they're like energy and light and I would vision myself 426 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: holding hands with them. And I did this meditation for 427 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: about three two or three months when my book was launching, 428 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 1: and I would meditate with them, and I would bring 429 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 1: everybody in that circle that I wanted, that needed healing, 430 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: that I knew in my life that needed help, and 431 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: then I would go larger and you know, outward and 432 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: blah blah blah the whole world. And my father never 433 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: his energy never comes near me. And he recently died 434 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: about a year ago, and he don't be and he 435 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: his energy is never there. And I know my dad 436 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: was a little bit my mom was. I would say 437 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: my mom was probably enlightened and my father was not. Yeah, 438 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: you know what I can tell you. It's interesting. First 439 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 1: of all, I just want to comment on the fact 440 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: that you've been meditating. That's huge. You know, prayer, when 441 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 1: people pray, it's like we're directing thoughts to the other side, right, 442 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: And when we meditate, we're listening back. And I think 443 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: people don't understand that they can spend time with the 444 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 1: people they loved who have crossed through meditation. It's just 445 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: a matter of opening your mind and opening your heart 446 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: and doing that, and so that connection is very real 447 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: and very healing. I also want to say that, you know, 448 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: I actually listened to your book on audible. I love 449 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: listening to books too, because there's a vibration in someone's voice, 450 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: and I just I was laughing, I was crying, and 451 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: I just I couldn't help but feel it was so 452 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: incredibly brave of you, and one of the things that 453 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: I have happened for me. When I've read for somebody, 454 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: I can kind of tap into their energy. And I 455 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 1: just saw how you were being used as such an 456 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: incredible vehicle of light and healing in the world in 457 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 1: ways that you would ever be able to fully see 458 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: and understand. But it kind of took my breath away. 459 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: And I could also feel your mom and brother being 460 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: part of that, like they're as much a part of 461 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: that book as you are, as this team of light. 462 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: Then from the other side, you hear bringing about this 463 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,719 Speaker 1: incredible healing in the world because all of our journeys 464 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: are interconnected and so through your journey, other people are 465 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: learning about their own journeys. It's it's really brave and beautiful. 466 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah. So I love that you're meditating to 467 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: because that's spending quality time with them. It's it's not 468 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: only spending quality time with them, but like I came 469 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: from a real place of judgment, you know, a real 470 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: place of judging people who believed in all of this. 471 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: And even though I was guilty of believing in it 472 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: when it was convenient for me, I wasn't a believer believer, 473 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: you know, and I would like to think that I'm 474 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: more of a believer than I ever have with less 475 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: shame about it, because I don't give a funk what 476 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: anybody thinks I care about. I think, well, I think 477 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: that's very brave to say that too. You know, A 478 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: big part of it for me, like as a psychic medium, 479 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: I was hiding for years, like doing it in secret, 480 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: you know, helping people, like volunteering to help at grief 481 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: retreats and things of that nature, because there is a 482 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: little bit of a big part of stigma. You know, 483 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 1: it's like a bull's eye on your head. But when 484 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: you own it as a truth, you realize it's so 485 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: healing and beautiful that you know, I'm at the point where, Okay, 486 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: some people might arrive at this and they might not 487 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: be open to it, but I just hope that they'll 488 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: question it and go on their journey. Um, which is 489 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: really what you did. And when you test it, when 490 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: you try it, it works, and it works in the 491 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: most amazing ways, Like in real time, you will be 492 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: directing your thoughts to someone you love on the other side, 493 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 1: asking for something specific and you will get it at 494 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 1: the same time and like a way that you absolutely 495 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 1: know is real and the same way that you're saying 496 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 1: you walked into the grocery store and there were these 497 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: two oranges separate and you just knew it doesn't matter 498 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: what anybody else says. When you just know that to 499 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: be your truth, it changes your reality. Yeah, because now 500 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,959 Speaker 1: it's become so second hat to me that like I 501 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: literally can feel my brother's hand on my shoulder at times, 502 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: I can hear him going laughing at something I say, 503 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: or I sometimes I look up and I just see 504 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: my mom and my brother they're doing something silly for 505 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 1: my childhood, Like it's totally at my disposal almost all 506 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: the time, and you know, I don't want to take 507 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: it for granted, and I don't tap into it, you know, daily, 508 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: but I know it's I know I have a space 509 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: to go in case I need to go there, and 510 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: that kind of you know, that stillness, sitting with yourself 511 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: and meditation teaches you that you are part of a collective, 512 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: that it's not just you. It's never been just true. 513 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 1: You're all here together, and the important thing is to 514 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 1: look around and do things for other people, and to 515 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: think about what when you're doing something, who are you 516 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: doing it for? Is it just for you? Or is 517 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: it for the collective? Is it for humanity? You know? 518 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 1: And obviously not everybody's in a position to think to 519 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 1: think that they can or in a position to make 520 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: a you know, a huge impact. But I would argue 521 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: every little impact is a huge impact. So many people 522 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: say I don't have the platform. I don't have. You do. 523 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: You're a human being. We all have the equal you know, 524 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,160 Speaker 1: we all have the ability to do wonderful things. All 525 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: I do. If you think of it like, you know, 526 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: you are a candle. You have this light, you can 527 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: light thousands of candles. You don't know how far your 528 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: light's going to go. You know, you don't know how 529 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: large your platform is going to become. And every act, 530 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: every thought, every moment that we are making a choice 531 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: here between fear and love matters, and everything boils down 532 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: to that, a choice of either fear or love. Fearing 533 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: what we don't know, feeling fearing that we're going to 534 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: give up our power like that's never the highest path. 535 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: But trusting, loving, seeing our connections to other people is everything. 536 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: I think so many times people get stuck here feeling 537 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: isolated and alone, and the truth is none of us 538 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: are alone. And what can you give us a Can 539 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: you give us a story without mentioning any names, or 540 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: it can be one from the book or one that 541 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: you know that really stands out to you of recent 542 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: that you are reading, that you had where you were 543 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: able to give somebody some solace about people who have 544 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: crossed over. Um. Yeah, so you know, I was just 545 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: at UM conference this past weekend at Omega, and I 546 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: was working with scientists and investigative journalists, which I love 547 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: to do, right because I'm always coming at this like, Okay, 548 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: this is real, Let's hear what the scientists have to say. 549 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: Let's do this, and and part of it was that 550 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: I was going to be doing what's called the gallery reading, 551 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: which I typically don't do. But that's when I just 552 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 1: opened to the group and do readings, you know, for 553 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: whoever I'm pulled to, and I always know the other 554 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: side has a plan, you know, like the I was 555 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: a teacher for almost twenty years, so the teacher and 556 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: me is so uncomfortable with that because I'm used to 557 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: going into you know, a room with a lesson plan, 558 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: three ways to teach it, and a backup plan, and 559 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 1: so when I do gallery readings, I've got nothing, like 560 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: I have nothing until I opened. Then I trust the 561 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: other side it's going to come through. But they always do. 562 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: And there was always lessons, you know, for everybody within 563 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 1: that and some really beautiful things happened, you know, just 564 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: in that session alone, and I think there were lessons 565 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: for the whole group, even though only a few people 566 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 1: got read. You know. One of the things that happened 567 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: was I was brought to a woman and her daughter 568 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: and her son had crossed through drug overdose. There was 569 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: fentanyl in the drug he had taken, and so he 570 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,959 Speaker 1: brought that up and he he told me that he 571 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: was part of a team of light on the other side, 572 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: and he showed me he was with other other people 573 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: his age on the other side, and they were working 574 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: through all of us here to try and bring about 575 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: healing and and change um. And he brought through a 576 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: whole lot of other beautiful like information about how they 577 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: were doing things in his name and they had just 578 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 1: organized a walk and how he was part of that 579 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: and all that, And then I read a few other people, 580 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: and then the final person I read was another woman 581 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: whose son came through and he had crossed the same way, 582 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: and he was actually with that point, like they were 583 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 1: both together bringing this up in this room to help 584 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: us here understand how interconnected we are, how we need 585 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: to take a look at this, how we need to 586 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: stop these overdoses with fentanel and all of this. So 587 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: it's really that was quite moving just to see how 588 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: the other side had orchestrated that. And what would you 589 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: say to people who have lost people to violence or 590 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: lost people to an epidemic like that, because that's something 591 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: that we could have avoided, you know, a gun violence, 592 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 1: a kid in a school at Sandy Hook, a little 593 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: kid getting shot. How are people supposed to reconcile that 594 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: kind of pain. Yeah, you know, I think like being 595 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 1: in the here and now, Um, what we're really talking 596 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: about is suffering and loss. Right, how do we make 597 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: sense of that? How can that mean anything? When a 598 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: child gets shot in a school? I can only tell 599 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: you what I've learned when I've connected with children on 600 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: the other side who were killed by gun violence and 601 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: so forth. And what they tell me is number One, 602 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: they don't want us to live in anger and bitterness. 603 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 1: They don't want um revenge, but they do want to 604 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: help us bring about change, and so they work with 605 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: us as a team of light to help heal and 606 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,959 Speaker 1: shift and change the world. And I think we do 607 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: need to address that as a society. You know, we're 608 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: growing and shifting and changing together. And I think it 609 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: comes back to that fundamental question of fear versus love. 610 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: Like we're not looking at the equation, right, We're fearful 611 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: that our guns are going to be taken away, We're 612 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: fearful of losing that quote unquote form of power, and 613 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: yet we're failing to see that true power is our 614 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: ability to heal each other, connect with each other, love 615 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: each other, be kind, be thoughtful. And so what we're 616 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: really having I think in a really big way, it's humanity. 617 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: We're having this really massive conversation about what true power is. 618 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, children who have crossed through violence, 619 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:26,479 Speaker 1: people who have crossed through murder, are always invested in 620 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,479 Speaker 1: helping their loved ones here heal and also find their 621 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: highest path. And when we do things in their name 622 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: to bring about change, that's the most powerful thing that 623 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: there is. You know. I've come to understand too that 624 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: there there seems to be some very evolved souls who 625 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: have come here on a mission knowing that there was 626 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: a possibility, should certain individuals make a certain choice in 627 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: their life, that they could be forced through what's called 628 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: an earlier doorway through murder, through violence, through being shot 629 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: and so forth. But their soul was so evolved that 630 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: they said, Okay, I'll come here on this mission of love, 631 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: and if that happens, I'm still going to try and 632 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: help heal and and bring love through. So you know 633 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: that phrase that love always wins, it really is true. Well, 634 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: I mean, do you think that people are set like 635 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: do you do you believe people like their their lives 636 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: are set before them, or that they create their their future? 637 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: Like is that done. Is this person coming into the 638 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: world knowing they're going to lose their life to gun violence. 639 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: That's such a great question. So it's really like our 640 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: our exit points predestined. So this is what I've learned, 641 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: and it was both like unsettling and healing to hear 642 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: this at the same time. Um, from what the other 643 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: side has told me, we all have different what I'm 644 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: going to call doorways to death, different times we can exit. 645 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: You know. The goal is to get to the last 646 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: one always, you know, hopefully, you know, but a lot 647 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: of times us getting to our last doorways depending on 648 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: other people's free will choices while they're here. For example, 649 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: let's say you come here and there's a certain door 650 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: that exists that if this other person who you've never 651 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: met in your life, but if that other person goes 652 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: to a bar and drinks and then drives, you are 653 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: going to be forced through a different, an earlier doorway. 654 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: Then if that individual makes a different choice, doesn't do that, 655 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna get to stay, and the universe kind of rearranges. 656 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,719 Speaker 1: And I think we have some choice on that, and 657 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: sometimes we don't, because sometimes someone's final doorway is very 658 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: early in life, you know, I've had situations and when 659 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: I read, I can see what I call points of 660 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,479 Speaker 1: light on the other side, which or maybe it's their 661 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: final door and maybe it's the first, but maybe it's 662 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,479 Speaker 1: the earliest doorway if a like if a four year 663 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: old dies. Yeah, that's what I was gonna say, is 664 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: like they have contracts some here to come here and 665 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: play a really powerful role in the world. And for 666 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: some people believe it or not, Like some souls aren't 667 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: even meant to be actually born. They're just meant to 668 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: be a pregnancy, whether it's to feel a parents on 669 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: conditional love or to be a point of growth in 670 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: that person's life. It's kind of like there's no harm, 671 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: no thallo, it's all about love. So it really depends. 672 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: Some people come here on a mission were are their 673 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: time here is not meant to be long. Some come 674 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: on a mission where there's a number of different doorways 675 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: that they could go through, and some come and they're 676 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: just they're here for the long call. I think, you know, 677 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: we're all different souls on different levels having this collective experience, 678 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: and our actions impact each other, our thoughts impact each other. 679 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: We're all enttangled in ways we can't fathom And what's 680 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: an experience where you've seen where you've done a reading 681 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: and saw a tremendous amount of healing take place for 682 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: the people here. Yeah, you know, I think that it's situations. 683 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: A lot of times it has to do with children 684 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: who have crossed, whose parents are left, you know here 685 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: just you know, completely bereaved and frozen, and I watch 686 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: how those children on the other side have worked really 687 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: hard to send their parents signs and messages to help 688 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: them shift and grow. One of the earliest chapters in 689 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,959 Speaker 1: the book talks about a little boy named Caleb who 690 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: crossed during having oral oral surgery done in his heart 691 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: up and ended up crossing, and his parents were just 692 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: left completely in grief, but he very shortly after started 693 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: sending them signs. He sent them the number eleven eleven, 694 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: and then he would show them certain like cloud contrails, 695 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: and he was coming through in all these different ways. 696 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: And when I did the reading for his parents, you know, 697 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: he talked to me about being a team of light 698 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: and that they were going to work together to pass 699 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: legislation to help save other children, and that was already happening, 700 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: and that has come to pass um, you know, it's 701 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: in this really beautiful way to make sure that when 702 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: children are having are being put under anesthesia, there has 703 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: to be someone else there. So really, it was a 704 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: really amazing thing to watch his parents work with him, 705 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: even though he's on the other side, there here to 706 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: bring about healing in this world and positive change in 707 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: this world, to help protect and save others from tragedy. 708 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: Because again, it's just showing how invested we all are 709 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: in each other's journeys, and how that little boy Caleb 710 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: on the other side, and how such a tremendous impact 711 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: on this physical world that we're in right now, bringing light, 712 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: bringing healing, bringing love. We have so many um times 713 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: I've done readings where I've seen that happening. It's really cool, 714 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: like this team of light between loved ones on the 715 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: other side and people here, and whenever we do anything 716 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 1: in a loved one's name, like they're with us, they're 717 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 1: part of that. It's it's quite beautiful. Yeah, that the 718 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,359 Speaker 1: idea that you can bring them with you, is that 719 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: you can live your life with their energy still with you, 720 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: is powerful and comforting. I remember you talk a lot 721 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: about losing your psychic abilities at the age of seven, 722 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: that a lot of a lot of people do. Yes, 723 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: So what's that Yes, So it's really interesting. You know, 724 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: I think that for number one, we're all we're all 725 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: born here, connected to each other and connected to the 726 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 1: place we came from, connected to the other side. We're hardwired, right, 727 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,879 Speaker 1: you cannot break those connections if if you tried. And 728 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: when we're children, we're using all different parts of our brain, 729 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: right even before we have language, we're reading energy, we 730 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,359 Speaker 1: absolutely are, and so we're navigating our world using our 731 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 1: intuitive abilities, using our psychic abilities, understanding those connections. But 732 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: what I have found happens, and this is true with 733 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: children with past life recall to not only children with 734 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: you know, psychic and intuitive abilities, is those abilities start 735 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: to shut down and become silence between age five and 736 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 1: age seven. And so I thought about the why of that. 737 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 1: I'm always questioning the why and the science behind it, 738 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 1: and what I came to understand, and you know, I'm 739 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: always listening to the other side to give me tips 740 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 1: to and what I came to understand is that that's 741 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 1: when formal schooling starts. Between kindergarten and second grade, we 742 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: retrain our brains. You know, I work with scientists who 743 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: have done e g. S of my brain when I'm 744 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: in a normal speaking mode like I am right now, 745 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: and then when I go into reading mode, and for 746 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: the normal speaking mode, my brain looks like most other people's. 747 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: All the brainwave activity is in the frontal lobe, you know, 748 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: the brainwave activities off the charts there, and the frontal 749 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: lobe is in charge of critical thinking, analytical thinking, language skills, 750 00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 1: math skills like day to day stuff. We need to 751 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: now vacate our world. The only time anybody's normal brain 752 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 1: goes offline like that is at night, and that's why 753 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: people will have dream visitation by loved ones at night, 754 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 1: precognitive dreams like dreams that are symbolic in nature, that 755 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: guide them, et cetera. But for the most part, kids 756 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: stay stuck in that frontal lobe. Once they start school, 757 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: they get trained there, and they never leave it unless 758 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 1: they go to sleep. And so I think that's why 759 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: kids are born intuitive. They're born connected. You'll hear kids 760 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: talking about recognizing um relatives from pictures who they never met, 761 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: who had crossed before they arrived here. Yeah, my nephew, 762 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: Jakie was two years old. He never met my brother chet. 763 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: He was our first grandson in the family, my sister 764 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: Simone's son, who's now twenty two. And he came into 765 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 1: our house and Drew, my brother, used to drive this 766 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: old Orange Scout, and when he died, my dad parked 767 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 1: it in the back of the property in the woods, 768 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,760 Speaker 1: and you know, never wanted to look at it again 769 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 1: because it was too painful of memory for my father. 770 00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:00,439 Speaker 1: And Jakie had never seen that truck. And he came 771 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 1: into the backyard and we were in New Jersey, and 772 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 1: I remember him running in from outside and my mom 773 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 1: was sitting on the sofa in her living room and 774 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 1: he said, and she and I was playing with him, 775 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 1: and he was, you know, just too so he was 776 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: just speaking, not not well, but he was speaking a little. 777 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: And we said, what did you do outside? Or my 778 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 1: mom said where were you? And he said, I was 779 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 1: with Chat, which would be fine because we always talked 780 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: about Chat to my to my nephew, or my mom 781 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: did anyway, and she said, oh, yeah, where where was he? 782 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 1: And she said he came to pick me up in 783 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 1: the orange truck and we went for a ride. And 784 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 1: I was sitting there and my mom and I just 785 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: burst into tears, and you know he had never seen 786 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: that car or a picture of that car. You know, 787 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 1: he was too young. So it was that was an 788 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: example of you know, I believe in children being so 789 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 1: unbe smirched, you know, before they get into school, and 790 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 1: we programmed their brains to say, this is what you 791 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: have to think. This is pragmatism, this is reality, this 792 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: is our you know, this is here and now there 793 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 1: is much more fantasy that comes into our mind before 794 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 1: we get deprogrammed from it. We're connecting in different ways, 795 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: you know, We're using different parts of our brain too. 796 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 1: So when they mind met me and I go out 797 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: of my frontal lobe, different parts of my brain light up. 798 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 1: And those are the parts that kids before they start 799 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,800 Speaker 1: formal schooling, all of us before we started formal schooling, 800 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: we're using. Here's the thing you can retrain your brain. 801 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: And so what scientists have said to me is there 802 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: seems to be a switch that I know where it 803 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: is and how to turn it on and off and 804 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: open to that and shut down the frontal part of 805 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 1: my brain because when I go into psychic mediumship mode, 806 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 1: it looks like I'm not conscious, like the brainwave activities 807 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 1: silences in my frontal lobe. So I think we can 808 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: just all learn to reopen. And I've seen this happen. 809 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 1: I do workshops where I help people just number one, 810 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 1: understand that we're all energy, feel our own energy, and 811 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: then start opening to it and start opening to their 812 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: psychic and intuitive abilities. I call them the four clayers 813 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 1: that we come come here with. Oh yeah, let's talk 814 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: about the four classes. Yeah, okay, So we all have 815 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 1: these tools, and so this is just words to describe 816 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 1: what they are. We have clairvoyance, which means clear seeing, 817 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 1: which is the one that I was talking about when 818 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 1: we dream at night and we are seeing vividly, but 819 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: our physical eyes are closed. None of us talk about 820 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 1: how bizarre that is. We have full vision, but we're 821 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 1: not using our physical eyes. So that's that third eye 822 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 1: that other cultures talk about. That's our psychic vision when 823 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,839 Speaker 1: we leave our physical bodies too. That's the site we have. 824 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: And it doesn't just go in one direction at one time. 825 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 1: We can kind of zoom in, we can zoom out, 826 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 1: we can be in more than one place at one time. 827 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 1: We can see in you know, different spectrums. A lot 828 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 1: of people who have had near death experiences. Otherwise you 829 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,359 Speaker 1: know called nd s. We'll talk about seeing in like 830 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,760 Speaker 1: ultra violet kind of spectrum, seeing colors they've never seen before. 831 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: So that's one of our abilities. We have clear audience, 832 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 1: which means clear hearing, and that's when you hear a 833 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 1: thought but it's not yours and something scary telling you 834 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 1: to do anything bad. But a lot of times our 835 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 1: loved ones will connect with us that way. We'll hear 836 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,919 Speaker 1: their voice, will hear them saying something, or my mom's 837 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: voice all the time, slow down, slow down, and with 838 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 1: our German accent. I love that. Yes, I hear it, 839 00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: and I can't say it. I can't speak in the 840 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 1: ways my mom spoke because it was very nuanced and 841 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,439 Speaker 1: unique and she was soft spoken. But I can hear 842 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: her voice, and it's learning to trust that rather than 843 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: reject it. Right, because the monkey made that mind that 844 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 1: frontal I was like, oh, reject that experience. That's not 845 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: tangible and that doesn't fit my paradigm. So once we 846 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 1: start embracing those moments of connection, we're basically like a 847 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: flower opening up, like they'll happen more and more. So 848 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 1: I love that you've already had that experience and that 849 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 1: you're honoring it. And then there's clear cognizance, which we 850 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 1: all have, and that is clear knowing. That's when you 851 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 1: get the sudden download of information that you just know 852 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 1: something in every ounce of your being. Yeah, well sort of, yes, 853 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,359 Speaker 1: it can, it can kind of land there, but it's 854 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 1: like in every cell of your being you know something, 855 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 1: but there's no logical way you could explain how you 856 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 1: know it. And when we don't trust that, when we 857 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 1: go against that clare cognizant knowing, we're always on a 858 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: bad path, right, So that's always guiding us. The one 859 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 1: you're talking about with your gut, that's called clear sentience, 860 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 1: and that means clear feeling. All of us read energy 861 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: like you are way advanced because you're already acknowledging that 862 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 1: we're energy and that's the only truth of our existence. Right. 863 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 1: So when we meet people, we don't just meet them 864 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 1: in the three D. We meet them energetically. And the 865 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 1: place that we're reading that from is our gut. It's 866 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 1: right around our belly button, right around that area, and 867 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: so you can start the more you tune into it, 868 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 1: you're recognizing and you'll feel like, oh, that's where I'm 869 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,760 Speaker 1: feeling that energy, and that's why people talk about having 870 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 1: gult level feelings on things. You know, that's what they're identifying, 871 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 1: whether or not they realize it. And being open clare 872 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: sentiently and I think is so important because when you 873 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 1: talk about how interconnected we all are and how you know, 874 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,719 Speaker 1: kindness and forgiveness that needs to be our currency. When 875 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 1: you really open to that, you start feeling that there 876 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 1: it's just the most beautiful layered experience. You know, you 877 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 1: want to do a quick, really quick experience if you're 878 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 1: ever driving in traffic and somebody wants to go in 879 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: front of you, instead of being like no, no, no no, 880 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 1: I gotta get there first, wave them in and then 881 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 1: just take a moment to feel what that felt like. 882 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 1: You can feel the energy exchange. No languages exchanged, you know, 883 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,840 Speaker 1: but you can feel that when you do something kind 884 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,360 Speaker 1: for someone, or you're acting from a place of like kindness, 885 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 1: love and forget, you will feel that. Conversely, when you 886 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 1: act like a fucking cunt, and we all experience that, 887 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 1: you know, we do yell at somebody in traffic, I 888 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: feel like an idiot A sometimes you can't stop yourself right, 889 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 1: but it's that moment of reflection. That's important. Like, sometimes 890 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 1: we're very reactive, and I think we're programmed here in 891 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 1: this world in a very materialistic way, and we have 892 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 1: to get ahead of people, and you don't let people in, 893 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 1: and you have to be guarded, and sometimes we totally 894 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 1: act like total jerks, right, and catching yourself in that 895 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 1: moment and recognizing what that felt like, that's a huge 896 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 1: growth experience. And because that's the difference between my psychiatrist, Dan, 897 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 1: who I speak about all in my book, told me, 898 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 1: you know, explain to me the difference between reaction and 899 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 1: a response, you know, me being reactive as somebody says 900 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 1: fuck you to me, I say fuck you back as 901 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 1: a reaction. It's actually really valid energy. You're just like 902 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: throwing right back because it's defensive. Instead of me going 903 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,720 Speaker 1: you saying fuck you and I going whoa, whoa, whoa? 904 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: What did I What did I do? Or what happened? 905 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 1: Are you all right? Or what did I do something 906 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 1: to upset you? That's a that's a response. It's the 907 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,839 Speaker 1: space of awareness that that he taught to me that 908 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 1: I've found to be such a useful to everything. Actually 909 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:15,280 Speaker 1: to actually stop listen to what you're hearing and don't 910 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:20,360 Speaker 1: respond in kind, respond from a kind space, don't respond 911 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: in the way the person you know talk to you. 912 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 1: You don't have to match everybody's energy. You can be 913 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: still and use your own energy to guide the situation. 914 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 1: And just by being calm in that situation, it diffuses it. Yeah, 915 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 1: you're really being an energy alchemist there right, because you're 916 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 1: taking this negative energy that's been thrown at you, you're 917 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,279 Speaker 1: holding it for a moment, you're diffusing it, and then 918 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 1: you're responding with kindness. You've changed the entire energy cycle. 919 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 1: And the thing is a lot of us volley negative 920 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 1: energy to each other. Somebody says after you to one person, 921 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 1: you say it next to the next, then somebody else 922 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,800 Speaker 1: gives somebody else to figure it's like this ongoing continuum 923 00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 1: of negative energy being thrown. So to be able to 924 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,359 Speaker 1: find that space to recognize, wait a minute, this isn't 925 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 1: about me. But I did just receive this energy. What 926 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 1: am I going to do with it? We can transform it, 927 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,240 Speaker 1: we can release it, you know. I teach my kids 928 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 1: like to release it, like if somebody throws that at you, 929 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,319 Speaker 1: release it up and out of your head and let 930 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,319 Speaker 1: it like implode into space and harm nobody, um, just 931 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,880 Speaker 1: so that they can get an understanding what that feels like. 932 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 1: So you can try that too. But to be kind 933 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 1: back is everything. Yeah, and not to be condescending. I 934 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,359 Speaker 1: mean that is that's huge. That's like really advanced soul 935 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 1: growth work there. Well, I mean I'm not doing it 936 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 1: all the time, but I I mean my work here 937 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 1: is to be nonreactive to everything, to not match anyone's energy, 938 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 1: and which is very hard to do because I get 939 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,840 Speaker 1: a lot of heated conversations and you know, that's my default. 940 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 1: That's the way I grew up and that's how I 941 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 1: made a living and how I became successful was by 942 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 1: telling everybody to go funk themselves. So to undo that 943 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 1: has been really challenging, but it's been great work because 944 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,799 Speaker 1: I just feel that, you know, anybody who doesn't believe 945 00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 1: in energy then doesn't believe in a bad food, Like 946 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 1: that's energy. That's like if I come in smiling and 947 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 1: I'm pissed, you're gonna know that I'm pissed and faking it. 948 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,840 Speaker 1: You know, you're not putting on an act for anybody, 949 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 1: no matter what kind of actress do you think you are? Uh, 950 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,880 Speaker 1: Because energy is everything and if you have good vibrations, 951 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 1: you have them, and if you don't, then you don't. 952 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 1: But it doesn't mean you can't get them. So it 953 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,399 Speaker 1: just means you're in a bad spot or you've lost 954 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,839 Speaker 1: your way, because people are inherently good people, you know, 955 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,279 Speaker 1: people just get lost, I think. So talk to me 956 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,880 Speaker 1: about how you first knew that you had this gift. Yeah, so, 957 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 1: you know, as a kid, I would see people in colors, 958 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 1: I would feel what they were feeling. But I just 959 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 1: thought that's how the world operated. I was like, yeah, 960 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,279 Speaker 1: that's what everybody experiences. And then you know, when I 961 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 1: was eleven, I had this moment, this Claire cognizant, absolute 962 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 1: moment of knowing that my grandfather, who I called pop Pop, 963 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,280 Speaker 1: who I was so close with, he was such a 964 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 1: focal point of my childhood, in my heart and my life. 965 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 1: I knew he was going to die, and I went 966 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 1: and I spent the day with and that was the 967 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 1: last time I ever saw him alive. I was diagnosed 968 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 1: with leukemia and passed very quickly, and I never got 969 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 1: to see him again. Um, And I remember feeling really like, 970 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 1: you know, cursed, like there was something very very wrong 971 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 1: with me, like feeling very different. And you know, I've 972 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,279 Speaker 1: always been blessed with having the most amazing mom and 973 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,239 Speaker 1: being able to go to her with anything, So it 974 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 1: didn't take me long to kind of go to her 975 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,239 Speaker 1: and confess and say, like, Mom, I think that I'm 976 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,919 Speaker 1: dark and haunted and cursed. I think something's really wrong 977 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 1: with me. Because I knew pop Up was going to die, 978 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,319 Speaker 1: and that's why I went and spent that day with him. 979 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:33,959 Speaker 1: You know, when she sat me down and she said, Laura, 980 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,320 Speaker 1: you know what, no part of you is dark or 981 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 1: broken or cursed. You just have another ability to understand things, 982 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 1: and you know, then she confessed that it had run 983 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 1: in on her side of the family for generations, and 984 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 1: then I felt less alone. But I felt like maybe 985 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 1: I was part of some club I didn't know that 986 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 1: I wanted membership in. But I think what the great 987 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 1: gifts she gave me was to have permission to explore it. 988 00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 1: Because in her family, it was like you would know 989 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:00,880 Speaker 1: people were going to die, you'd have a dream that 990 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:02,799 Speaker 1: somebody was dying as they were dying, and then you 991 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 1: just share up but never talk about it again and 992 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,759 Speaker 1: never examine it. And she really helped me to understand 993 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,799 Speaker 1: that it was an ability I had to perceive energy 994 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 1: and it was really all about love. And it would 995 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:14,640 Speaker 1: still take me decades to come to terms with that 996 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 1: and fully own it, right because I didn't want people 997 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 1: to know I could do this, and it was you know, 998 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,000 Speaker 1: I had to figure out where it was going to 999 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 1: land in my life and how I would use it. 1000 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:28,520 Speaker 1: But um, it's it's definitely in retrospect what I realized 1001 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 1: about that knowing that moment and knowing he was going 1002 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,839 Speaker 1: to cross that was a great gift because because of that, 1003 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 1: I had one more day in the physical to spend 1004 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 1: with him, and we had the best day. Like we left, 1005 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 1: We were just together. It was fantastic. And and so 1006 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,640 Speaker 1: I think, like these abilities, we all have to send 1007 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:49,719 Speaker 1: energy to feel connections to people too. And I feel 1008 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,839 Speaker 1: like even grief, like that's our soul feeling that other 1009 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 1: person soul somewhere else now so not physically both us, 1010 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,920 Speaker 1: but we can still feel them with us, and I 1011 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,279 Speaker 1: think honoring the on his everything. So what about Yeah? 1012 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,719 Speaker 1: But back okay, so back to my father, who soul 1013 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,319 Speaker 1: I don't feel what? What what do you have? What 1014 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,239 Speaker 1: do you think is going on with him right now? Well, 1015 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:10,839 Speaker 1: if you want me to glimpse. I can tell you 1016 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,919 Speaker 1: that this there's like a big joke between like him 1017 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,399 Speaker 1: and your mom and brother, and and he's like busy 1018 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,759 Speaker 1: and what I would cars selling car It's like a 1019 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 1: school like where we're trying like, let's say there's a 1020 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,560 Speaker 1: class clown that you're trying to get to understand. Like, no, 1021 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 1: but when you did this, you need to see how 1022 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,799 Speaker 1: you affect the other people. It's like I'm trying to 1023 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,359 Speaker 1: wrestle your dad's energy down so that he'll like really 1024 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 1: seriously do his full life review. I feel like he's 1025 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 1: taken a really long time with his life review, not 1026 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 1: in a bad way, And it's just there's a lot 1027 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:43,319 Speaker 1: of people he influenced and affected that he's trying to 1028 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 1: take in and understand. It's not that he's not present, 1029 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:47,759 Speaker 1: it's just like a little busy doing that. He's a 1030 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,040 Speaker 1: little focused on that. But do you think that there 1031 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 1: are different since our souls can be you know, like 1032 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,200 Speaker 1: you know, my dad did a lot of things, a 1033 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 1: lot of amazing things, but he did a lot of 1034 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,840 Speaker 1: things that I'm sure you know he wasn't that proud 1035 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:03,520 Speaker 1: of or that he regrets. Do you so, do you 1036 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,440 Speaker 1: think that there needs to be some clean up for 1037 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 1: a person like that when they die. That's a good 1038 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,160 Speaker 1: term for it. So what I've learned and what they've 1039 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:11,640 Speaker 1: shared with me, is that we all have a life 1040 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 1: review and it happens like you know, time doesn't really 1041 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:15,959 Speaker 1: exist there, so it's hard to explain, but it does, 1042 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,279 Speaker 1: like in a language we can understand. It takes some 1043 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 1: people more time so to speak to process than others. 1044 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 1: And we all need Yeah, we all, I think we are. 1045 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,360 Speaker 1: I think we all need to take responsibility to the 1046 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,239 Speaker 1: fact of understanding how we influence and affected others, and 1047 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 1: we always want to own that and fully appreciate it. 1048 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:38,799 Speaker 1: And I think, like that's what your dad's working on 1049 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 1: a quote almost like a little bit of a school 1050 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 1: there where he's taking his time with it. You know, 1051 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 1: he's enjoying, he's taking a lot of break socializing. Yeah, 1052 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,839 Speaker 1: but I don't get him this unhappy or stunted at all. 1053 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,160 Speaker 1: I think, you know, his soul had an agreement to 1054 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,479 Speaker 1: come here and play a certain role and be quote 1055 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 1: unquote limited in a certain way as how I'm going 1056 00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 1: to say it, so that the people around him could 1057 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,120 Speaker 1: have to struggle a little bit to grow and understand 1058 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,839 Speaker 1: him and play their roles. And by people, I mean 1059 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,319 Speaker 1: your family, and I get who you're talking about, but 1060 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,759 Speaker 1: what about his growth as a human being. He's like 1061 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,880 Speaker 1: a different like so the other side has different like 1062 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,319 Speaker 1: it's almost like an apartment building of energy. So like, 1063 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,319 Speaker 1: I know, viewers can't, you know, listeners can't see this, 1064 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,759 Speaker 1: but like he's a little bit to my lower right, 1065 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:21,560 Speaker 1: and your mom and brother are like a little bit 1066 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,320 Speaker 1: to my upper right, and so it's just like he's busy, 1067 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,560 Speaker 1: like in that classroom. Like so if this were all 1068 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 1: high school, right, and your mom and brother already are 1069 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:33,280 Speaker 1: like graduated and now like helping teach classes. Your dad's 1070 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,160 Speaker 1: maybe in like tenth grade. You know, he's working his 1071 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,719 Speaker 1: way through it, ok, but he's understanding. And I ask 1072 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,640 Speaker 1: you about some other people in my life? Is that 1073 00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,879 Speaker 1: okay to do? Now? Okay, we're gonna take a quick 1074 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:48,920 Speaker 1: break and we'll be right back. What about my cousin 1075 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 1: Eddie and my uncle Terry? First of all, I feel 1076 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,240 Speaker 1: like like this is my sense of Eddie, Like there's 1077 00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,319 Speaker 1: two sides to his personality. Like there's this fun, like 1078 00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,640 Speaker 1: loving side, but also this really gentle, understand ending side. 1079 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:05,279 Speaker 1: And I feel like his journey here, especially like if 1080 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,160 Speaker 1: you look at the I'm going to say, the ending 1081 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,000 Speaker 1: of it is how he's giving to me, Like the 1082 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 1: ending wouldn't make sense. Like it's unfinished, is how I 1083 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,520 Speaker 1: want to say it. But he needs to let you know, 1084 00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,640 Speaker 1: like it completely is finished. This was his mission. He 1085 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,839 Speaker 1: needs you to know what was his final doorway. That's 1086 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 1: what I want to say. Did Terry cross before he did? Huh? 1087 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,279 Speaker 1: I get Terry like in the background and Eddie Moore 1088 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,400 Speaker 1: in the forefront, And my other way to interpret that 1089 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 1: would be like Eddie is working with you, like he's 1090 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,040 Speaker 1: signed up, he wants to help you, He's like with 1091 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,200 Speaker 1: you daily, he's trying to come through, and Terry's more like, Okay, 1092 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch with my dad. Yeah, they're like over 1093 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,040 Speaker 1: like that's where I'm seeing him towards, like that background 1094 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,960 Speaker 1: because it's my mom's my mom and her two sisters 1095 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 1: and they all married, three guys like my father, like 1096 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,360 Speaker 1: my uncle. So I'm sure those three and they all died, 1097 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 1: all three guys, all my father and my two uncles 1098 00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,399 Speaker 1: from that side all died within a year of each other. 1099 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:03,000 Speaker 1: Who was the big smoker okay, because I'm just getting 1100 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 1: like cigarette smoke in my face and all this. And 1101 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,360 Speaker 1: it's funny because a lot of times people on the 1102 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,959 Speaker 1: other side will make me give anti smoking lectures about 1103 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,080 Speaker 1: like how bad cigarettes are, and he's like, he's like, 1104 00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,960 Speaker 1: I don'kay. Yeah, he's laughing about like this is the 1105 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,200 Speaker 1: joke with him. He's like he needs to let you know, 1106 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,920 Speaker 1: like he's still smoking over there, like and he's happy 1107 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,960 Speaker 1: as you can imagine doing that. So it's like he's 1108 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:26,759 Speaker 1: he's kind of funny. He's not using it as much 1109 00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,480 Speaker 1: as a teaching opportunity as as more like a celebration 1110 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:35,040 Speaker 1: of cigarettes for himself. That's what I'm seeing constantly for him. Well, 1111 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,040 Speaker 1: I hope you're happy, Terry. But so for my cousins. 1112 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,920 Speaker 1: I have cousins who lost a brother that's Eddie. Is 1113 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:45,080 Speaker 1: there something that I can tell them about Eddie? I 1114 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,799 Speaker 1: know you're saying, here are there's three people here that 1115 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,239 Speaker 1: he's got like three cousins for you that he's connected to, 1116 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:51,920 Speaker 1: because he's talking about trying to come through to like 1117 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 1: three people of his generation here there are more there's like, 1118 00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,799 Speaker 1: are there three girls? Yeah? Okay, because like this is 1119 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 1: what I'm seeing, um there's something like he's making a 1120 00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,279 Speaker 1: joke about the color pink and I'm seeing a flamingo. 1121 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,920 Speaker 1: So I know this sounds crazy, but I would say 1122 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,880 Speaker 1: they should be on the lookout for, which is I 1123 00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:11,920 Speaker 1: don't feel like something he would normally do, like but 1124 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,440 Speaker 1: like a pink flamingo as a sign for him with 1125 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,799 Speaker 1: some word on it. A lot of times this will 1126 00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 1: come through, it won't have happened yet, So this would 1127 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:21,840 Speaker 1: we just say that, I'm like, be on the lookout 1128 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:23,719 Speaker 1: for that. There's a joke in it, like he's got 1129 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 1: a little bit of a like a joking personality with this. 1130 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:28,680 Speaker 1: So I don't know what word is going to be 1131 00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,839 Speaker 1: like accompanying this pink flamingo. I don't know if it's 1132 00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,600 Speaker 1: going to be like a plastic pink flamingo or like 1133 00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,880 Speaker 1: when they see like in a picture, I don't know 1134 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,200 Speaker 1: what it or an actual one crossing their path. But 1135 00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,759 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to talk about that, and I'm supposed to 1136 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,920 Speaker 1: talk about that one of them really not being open 1137 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,840 Speaker 1: to this. Yeah, is there like a scene name like 1138 00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:52,920 Speaker 1: like a Colly and Catherine likes? Is she not as 1139 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,240 Speaker 1: open to this? I think the girls are all open 1140 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,879 Speaker 1: to it as as much, I mean, as open as 1141 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,880 Speaker 1: they've ever been because of this pain, or maybe skeptical 1142 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,719 Speaker 1: because he's really going to prove to her like right away. 1143 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:05,920 Speaker 1: And I don't know if she already had a dream 1144 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,359 Speaker 1: visitation from him, but I feel like, oh, I'm I'm 1145 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:12,120 Speaker 1: gonna show. I'm going to make sure she knows, right, Okay, okay, 1146 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,680 Speaker 1: well that's good. And and then his then my aunt, 1147 00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:18,479 Speaker 1: his mother Gabby, who you know, has been through really 1148 00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,520 Speaker 1: he's really proud of her. She's holding like what I'm 1149 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,600 Speaker 1: going to say is triple grief somehow, so there have 1150 00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,200 Speaker 1: been like either three losses or three difficult things for 1151 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,480 Speaker 1: her um and she's going through something difficult right now too. 1152 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,719 Speaker 1: He's showing me like watching over trying to help with 1153 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,759 Speaker 1: If we looked at her kind of life journey and path, 1154 00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,120 Speaker 1: it seems disproportionately unfair, is how I want to say 1155 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:38,600 Speaker 1: it is how he's giving like she's going through a 1156 00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,359 Speaker 1: lot or this is really hard, but she carries her 1157 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 1: like jin high and he's very proud of how she 1158 00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,560 Speaker 1: is navigating her grief and doing this in the world. 1159 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:50,239 Speaker 1: And he hears her when she talks to him. But 1160 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,560 Speaker 1: to let her know she doesn't just have to talk 1161 00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,560 Speaker 1: to him like when she's in the shower or driving, 1162 00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,640 Speaker 1: like she can talk to him at any time. It's 1163 00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,839 Speaker 1: almost like she's trying to find these little spaces and 1164 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,719 Speaker 1: know he's with her at all the time. He did 1165 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,279 Speaker 1: something with light for her, Like I don't know if 1166 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,239 Speaker 1: there was like this big beam of light, but it's 1167 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,799 Speaker 1: something dramatic he's talking about. To ask her about that. Yeah, 1168 00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,120 Speaker 1: would it be a rainbow? Yeah, that would make perfect 1169 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:13,359 Speaker 1: sense to man. I don't want to be like try 1170 00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,000 Speaker 1: and say that, but that's how I'm seeing it coming, 1171 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,480 Speaker 1: like light come down like that. So are the signs 1172 00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,279 Speaker 1: all kind of corny? Are they all like pink flamingos, 1173 00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,839 Speaker 1: rainbows and oranges? Well, I think he's like having fun 1174 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,200 Speaker 1: with us right now, like because it's like so like 1175 00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,759 Speaker 1: feminine in a sense. Do you know he's definitely, But 1176 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,239 Speaker 1: I feel like now we should ask him to send 1177 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,080 Speaker 1: like a tank, like a Camo tank, and he'll do 1178 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,719 Speaker 1: that too. But I think that you know, a lot 1179 00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:41,200 Speaker 1: of times, you know people who are more in tune 1180 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:42,719 Speaker 1: and in touch with what I'm going to say is 1181 00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:46,000 Speaker 1: their feminine side or what we're encouraged as women to 1182 00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,920 Speaker 1: be like open and healing and receptive, where men are 1183 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,239 Speaker 1: sometimes taught to like shut down those emotions and not 1184 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,840 Speaker 1: feel those things. I think it's it's interesting that a 1185 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,600 Speaker 1: lot of the signs do feel feminine in nature, you know, 1186 00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,319 Speaker 1: but they don't have to be limited to that. I 1187 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,880 Speaker 1: think rainbows are really easy for them because it's all 1188 00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,640 Speaker 1: a refraction of light. So like that's a really good 1189 00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,600 Speaker 1: one for them to send, a really kind of simple 1190 00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,200 Speaker 1: one for them to send their good at it. In 1191 00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,520 Speaker 1: other words, I see that makes sense, But she can 1192 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:15,680 Speaker 1: ask for other things, and do you feel that so 1193 00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,400 Speaker 1: when somebody okay, So so if when you say souls 1194 00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,040 Speaker 1: travel together, obviously you can't. You know, there are a 1195 00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:22,680 Speaker 1: lot of people in your life that are soul mates, 1196 00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,320 Speaker 1: you feel like, you know, there are friendships, there are relatives, 1197 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:29,520 Speaker 1: there are spouses and children. So we can't always you know, 1198 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,880 Speaker 1: if if, if what you're saying happens to be the 1199 00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:33,880 Speaker 1: reality that we cross over. We kind of wait for 1200 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:38,600 Speaker 1: our energy groups. How you can't wait for everybody because 1201 00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,319 Speaker 1: not everybody is part of the same group. You have 1202 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,200 Speaker 1: all your little kind of offshoot groups. You know, there 1203 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,920 Speaker 1: are friends of mine that I would think I consider 1204 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:50,240 Speaker 1: to be you know, soulmates, and then there's my family 1205 00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,799 Speaker 1: and so who gets you know, like, how does that 1206 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:56,759 Speaker 1: all work? Well? I think there's soul recognition that goes on, 1207 00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:58,920 Speaker 1: and I think a lot of times were born into 1208 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,879 Speaker 1: families where like sometimes I read for someone and I'll 1209 00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:03,440 Speaker 1: see like they've been born into what I call like 1210 00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,799 Speaker 1: a purple family where they came in as a very 1211 00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,920 Speaker 1: evolved soul, but they're usually one or more parents maybe 1212 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,919 Speaker 1: aren't as evolved, and so like the person who's born 1213 00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,920 Speaker 1: here evolved is a point of love and light for 1214 00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,800 Speaker 1: the rest of the family members to grow their soul against. 1215 00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:21,040 Speaker 1: And yet a lot of their soul mates, so to speak, 1216 00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,320 Speaker 1: will be non family members. What the beautiful thing that 1217 00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,840 Speaker 1: happens when we're open and aware and we feel energy 1218 00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:31,040 Speaker 1: and we honor it is those souls who maybe aren't 1219 00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,640 Speaker 1: genetically part of our family groups this lifetime will be 1220 00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:38,160 Speaker 1: brought into our path And the greatest thing is when 1221 00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:41,400 Speaker 1: we recognize that, so we can create inform families of 1222 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:45,360 Speaker 1: energy in a very healthy, beautiful way. Whereas maybe the 1223 00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:49,040 Speaker 1: family were born into there's always a dynamic and you know, 1224 00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:53,520 Speaker 1: complicated relationships. So I think that different lifetimes we play 1225 00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,880 Speaker 1: different roles. Have you ever read the book Many Lives, 1226 00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,160 Speaker 1: Many Matters. God, I was just about to bring that up. 1227 00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:00,360 Speaker 1: Yes I have, right, So I mean that explains it 1228 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,000 Speaker 1: way better than I can. That's Dr Brian White. That's 1229 00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,880 Speaker 1: my number one recommendation of of books. It's just phenomenal. 1230 00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,560 Speaker 1: But it helps you understand how interconnected we are and 1231 00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,640 Speaker 1: how we can play a certain role in each other's 1232 00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,280 Speaker 1: lives one lifetime and then a very different one in 1233 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,040 Speaker 1: in another. But I do believe, like I was saying 1234 00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:17,880 Speaker 1: to you, like, Okay, well, if we're all waiting for 1235 00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:19,720 Speaker 1: our soul group to get there, won't there always be 1236 00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,200 Speaker 1: like the grandchild or the great grandchild who doesn't make it? 1237 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,720 Speaker 1: And yes, but well we all are more interconnected with 1238 00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:29,240 Speaker 1: more soul groups than we can fathom. Okay, Well that's 1239 00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:32,600 Speaker 1: good to know, and it's again comforting, and so there's 1240 00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:36,800 Speaker 1: really no harm that could come from actually thinking about 1241 00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,720 Speaker 1: these things and believing in these things. Whether people believe 1242 00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:43,320 Speaker 1: you or not, there's you're not hurting anybody at all. 1243 00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,080 Speaker 1: It's very healing and comforting. But I think some people think, like, well, 1244 00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,240 Speaker 1: it sounds too much, you know, too good to be true. 1245 00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,600 Speaker 1: It sounds like, you know, a fairy tale or a fantasy, 1246 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,760 Speaker 1: and the truth is like, yeah, it does sound pretty great, 1247 00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,080 Speaker 1: but that doesn't discredit it. It It doesn't mean it's not 1248 00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,320 Speaker 1: our truth. You know. The truth is that none of us, 1249 00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,919 Speaker 1: you know, none of our consciousness dies, and we're all 1250 00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,200 Speaker 1: in this collective lesson of love. Like that is a 1251 00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:07,840 Speaker 1: beautiful truth because I think it changes how we live 1252 00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,160 Speaker 1: here when we know that to be our truth and 1253 00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:11,800 Speaker 1: we honor it. And the way to honor that is 1254 00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,280 Speaker 1: to test it right, ask for science, ask for messages, 1255 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:18,000 Speaker 1: trust in the process. Yeah, to ask for science. And 1256 00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:21,760 Speaker 1: just the energy shift, like, for instance, personally speaking, the 1257 00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,840 Speaker 1: energy shift that I've had in terms of quieting myself 1258 00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,240 Speaker 1: and calming down and taking my time and not being 1259 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,640 Speaker 1: reactive and believing in my brother being around me and 1260 00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:32,880 Speaker 1: my mother being around me has drawn so many things 1261 00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:37,080 Speaker 1: into my life, Like it is proof positive that happiness 1262 00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:41,320 Speaker 1: begets much more happiness and more like the act of happiness, 1263 00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:44,040 Speaker 1: the act of gratitude, which is a word that still 1264 00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:48,680 Speaker 1: makes my vagina titan. It leads to all these little 1265 00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:51,160 Speaker 1: gifts in your life, and people show up, and books 1266 00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:54,919 Speaker 1: show up and opportunities arise and you're like, oh my god, 1267 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:58,320 Speaker 1: is this really And it's like flowing with the universe 1268 00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:02,440 Speaker 1: instead of resisting the things that you don't like accepting. 1269 01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:04,920 Speaker 1: It's so true. I love that you're saying that too. 1270 01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,520 Speaker 1: About gratitude. You know, it's it's like if you shift 1271 01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,840 Speaker 1: your energy, you shift your life and all different doors 1272 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:14,000 Speaker 1: open up. And so love and gratitude, those are some 1273 01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:17,280 Speaker 1: of the highest feelings we can have here, love, gratitude, forgiveness. 1274 01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,080 Speaker 1: And there have been studies done on actual pessimists where 1275 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,960 Speaker 1: they have them. Right, just a very brief gratitude list 1276 01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,720 Speaker 1: each morning for twenty one consecutive days, because once we 1277 01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,800 Speaker 1: do something for twenty one days, it becomes a habit 1278 01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:34,160 Speaker 1: and it changes the customers. But it has to be consecutive. Right. 1279 01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,800 Speaker 1: But look, you're good. You don't need to worry. You're 1280 01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:38,600 Speaker 1: already in that. I call it being in the flow 1281 01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:40,920 Speaker 1: of light, exactly what you're describing as being in the 1282 01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,360 Speaker 1: flow of light of the universe. It's where you're finding 1283 01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:46,120 Speaker 1: your highest path. You're opened your mind, in your heart, 1284 01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:49,640 Speaker 1: you're recognizing your interconnectedness to both people here and on 1285 01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,240 Speaker 1: the other side, and you are really what you're doing 1286 01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,600 Speaker 1: is surrendering your own kind of life to be a 1287 01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:57,480 Speaker 1: vehicle of light and healing for other people, and then 1288 01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,880 Speaker 1: the other side works through you. You You know, I do 1289 01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,360 Speaker 1: believe in God. I believe in God as this force 1290 01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:06,200 Speaker 1: of love that is in all of us and interconnects 1291 01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,440 Speaker 1: all of us and is healing. And I think, like, 1292 01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:10,720 Speaker 1: that's what I also mean when I talk about being 1293 01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,680 Speaker 1: in the flow of light. It's like being in that 1294 01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:16,120 Speaker 1: interconnected state, being willing to be a vehicle of light 1295 01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,440 Speaker 1: and healing, doing all of that, and when you're in 1296 01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,400 Speaker 1: that flow, you can feel it. So yeah, gratitude is 1297 01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,840 Speaker 1: huge and the flow state, like I I felt that 1298 01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,280 Speaker 1: when I wrote my last book, it was like vomiting 1299 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,920 Speaker 1: out of me and it was in the sense of 1300 01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:32,960 Speaker 1: such a release. It was relief, but it was also like, oh, 1301 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,480 Speaker 1: this is the first thing I'm putting into the world 1302 01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:41,120 Speaker 1: that is as authentic as possible. And then the and 1303 01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,320 Speaker 1: it just flowed out, and then it flowed into the 1304 01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,880 Speaker 1: world and it did everything and has continuing to do 1305 01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,640 Speaker 1: any more than I could ever dream of. And I 1306 01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:53,600 Speaker 1: didn't put any thought into it. It just came to me. 1307 01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:55,720 Speaker 1: Would you say it like came through you. It almost 1308 01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:57,920 Speaker 1: would say that. I mean, I wouldn't say that because 1309 01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,880 Speaker 1: I'm mad, but I would say as close to you 1310 01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,200 Speaker 1: again as it flowed through me, it definitely felt like 1311 01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,720 Speaker 1: a vomit. And it felt like once I got that 1312 01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,640 Speaker 1: out and once I did the work, I did feel 1313 01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,520 Speaker 1: like a different person. I just felt like, now I 1314 01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:15,200 Speaker 1: feel like nothing matters. It doesn't matter if I die tomorrow, 1315 01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:17,520 Speaker 1: if I lived till I'm a hundred. I mean, I'd 1316 01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:19,240 Speaker 1: rather not live till I'm a hundred, but you know, 1317 01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:22,400 Speaker 1: I feel like that might happen, just because of my luck. 1318 01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:29,560 Speaker 1: Um and uh and uh. But it is such a 1319 01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:33,600 Speaker 1: nicer place to live, to be to you know, to 1320 01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,440 Speaker 1: to sit and listen to the energy and too and 1321 01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:39,240 Speaker 1: to feel yourself to be present in every moment. That 1322 01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:42,120 Speaker 1: has been a huge gift. And the things line up 1323 01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:43,960 Speaker 1: for you in that way. And I've heard so many 1324 01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,080 Speaker 1: testimonies about that, and I've read all you know, when 1325 01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,080 Speaker 1: I read Many Lives to Many Masters, it was I 1326 01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,600 Speaker 1: found that book in a seat pocket on a plane 1327 01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:53,280 Speaker 1: after I had just gotten into a community fight with 1328 01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:56,080 Speaker 1: somebody the night before in New York City about reincarnation 1329 01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:59,680 Speaker 1: and how stupid I thought that they were in the 1330 01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,040 Speaker 1: next day and I was like, oh God, many lies. 1331 01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:03,760 Speaker 1: And I read it from start to finish on my 1332 01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,600 Speaker 1: plane back to l A. And I was like, telling 1333 01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:09,200 Speaker 1: cut to I'd be the worst juror because I just 1334 01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:12,160 Speaker 1: switched signs all day long. I was like, Oh my god, 1335 01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,840 Speaker 1: everybody needs to read this fucking book. But it's a 1336 01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:16,440 Speaker 1: great book to read, and you're a great book The 1337 01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,240 Speaker 1: Signs and the Secret Language of the Universe. How can 1338 01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,360 Speaker 1: people get this? Can they get this on at local bookstores? 1339 01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:24,800 Speaker 1: Is it out out to order from you? It's on Amazon, 1340 01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,760 Speaker 1: It's on at local bookstores. Okay, I feel like that 1341 01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,400 Speaker 1: book will find them. Yeah, this book will find you. 1342 01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,480 Speaker 1: But it's such a nice read. And it's so nice 1343 01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:35,960 Speaker 1: to hear personal stories about people who have experienced what 1344 01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,480 Speaker 1: we're talking about, because it it helps you make sense 1345 01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,360 Speaker 1: of it all. Let's talk about your doubt. Do you 1346 01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,240 Speaker 1: ever doubt your ability? Do you ever doubt what you 1347 01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:48,120 Speaker 1: believe to be true? Um? You know, embracing my abilities 1348 01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:50,240 Speaker 1: definitely was a struggle, and there have been times I 1349 01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:52,520 Speaker 1: just wanted to reject it all. And for me, like 1350 01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:54,480 Speaker 1: the way it started, I would know a lot of 1351 01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,200 Speaker 1: negative things that were going to happen in the world, 1352 01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:58,120 Speaker 1: you know, and I thought like, why do I need 1353 01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,200 Speaker 1: to know this? How is this helpful? But I really 1354 01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:03,400 Speaker 1: needed to push through that negative to get to the 1355 01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:05,840 Speaker 1: healing and the beauty and the interconnectedness and the love. 1356 01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,560 Speaker 1: So that was part of my journey. Do I doubt 1357 01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:12,440 Speaker 1: it now? No, I can't. I mean, it's one thing 1358 01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:16,480 Speaker 1: for somebody to maybe watch a psychic medium and think, well, 1359 01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,800 Speaker 1: maybe they're doing what's called a hot rating or cold rerating. 1360 01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:21,680 Speaker 1: A hot rating would be where like I have advanced 1361 01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:24,760 Speaker 1: information and I'm just pretending I don't. A cold reading 1362 01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,320 Speaker 1: is that I'm just so in tune with somebody's body 1363 01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:29,800 Speaker 1: language or their voice that I can kind of sense 1364 01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:33,120 Speaker 1: when I'm getting things right or wrong right, So, you know, 1365 01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,200 Speaker 1: I've worked with scientists where there's just no I know, 1366 01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:37,520 Speaker 1: I'm not doing hot rating, and I don't think I'm 1367 01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,440 Speaker 1: doing cold rating, right. Some part of my journey has 1368 01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,360 Speaker 1: been to go to a psychiatrist to admit, like, I 1369 01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,720 Speaker 1: hear voices, this is what they're telling me, and am 1370 01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:46,080 Speaker 1: I crazy? And I am just blessed to have this 1371 01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,240 Speaker 1: amazing psychiatrist. He was like, well, what are the voices? 1372 01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,320 Speaker 1: Telling you, and I'm like, what's the person's grandmother telling 1373 01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,160 Speaker 1: me that she's so happy this new baby just arrived 1374 01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,760 Speaker 1: in the family and you know, happy birth, And he's like, well, 1375 01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:58,120 Speaker 1: that's beautiful. In the world is more magnificent and complex 1376 01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,280 Speaker 1: than we know, so carry on, you know. I went 1377 01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:03,000 Speaker 1: to then scientists to make sure that I would participate 1378 01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,880 Speaker 1: in like what when tuple blinded study, which meant there 1379 01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:08,320 Speaker 1: was no way that the researcher could cue me as 1380 01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:10,280 Speaker 1: as to the information I was bringing through was right 1381 01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:13,160 Speaker 1: around because they had no clue. So that eliminated cold reading. 1382 01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:15,800 Speaker 1: And I think it's really important to do that because 1383 01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,560 Speaker 1: I think the fact that this is real has really 1384 01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:22,400 Speaker 1: powerful implications for humanity, not just for me in my life, 1385 01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,960 Speaker 1: you know. So it has gotten rid of any doubt 1386 01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,880 Speaker 1: that I had in terms of is this real? Is 1387 01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:30,880 Speaker 1: this not real? Where I am I getting this information from? 1388 01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:32,480 Speaker 1: You know, when I read psychically, I get this kind 1389 01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:34,320 Speaker 1: of widescreen TV that goes on my mind. All my 1390 01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,840 Speaker 1: psychic information comes on the left and mediumship comes on 1391 01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:38,680 Speaker 1: the right, and it's a very different feeling for me. 1392 01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:41,000 Speaker 1: So when I read psychically, I'm reaching and I'm looking 1393 01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:44,400 Speaker 1: for information and mediumship is just I sit back and 1394 01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:46,720 Speaker 1: these energies, these points of like come to me and 1395 01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,280 Speaker 1: just give me information and their personalities are there, and 1396 01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,480 Speaker 1: it's like, it's this wonderful experience because I get to 1397 01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:53,960 Speaker 1: meet all new people. You know. I've had situations where 1398 01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:55,760 Speaker 1: I'll be talking to someone and I'll be like, oh, yeah, 1399 01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:57,320 Speaker 1: I know that person, and I realized, well, I didn't 1400 01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:59,000 Speaker 1: get to know that person until after they crossed, but 1401 01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:01,080 Speaker 1: I know that person we're from now, you know. Is 1402 01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:03,600 Speaker 1: that sort of odd experience for me, But it has 1403 01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:07,560 Speaker 1: really expelled all doubt in my mind about existence of 1404 01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:11,360 Speaker 1: consciousness after bodily death. It's it's changed how my life 1405 01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,960 Speaker 1: journey has gone. It's changed like little things that happen 1406 01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,160 Speaker 1: day to day in my own life that might be 1407 01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:19,080 Speaker 1: an annoyance, I can often see the bigger picture what's 1408 01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:21,880 Speaker 1: really going on. It changed my own grief journey when 1409 01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:24,520 Speaker 1: my father crossed. You know, he's like a way better 1410 01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:27,200 Speaker 1: communicator now than he was when he was here. And 1411 01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,360 Speaker 1: I watched how it changed my whole family. Like we were, 1412 01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:31,200 Speaker 1: you know, texting every day, like this is what Dad 1413 01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:32,800 Speaker 1: just sent me. He sent you that at the same time, 1414 01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:35,280 Speaker 1: like it was. It was really amazing, So I don't 1415 01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:38,040 Speaker 1: have any doubt in it anymore. I don't have any 1416 01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:41,120 Speaker 1: doubt in my ability to connect with that. But here's 1417 01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,320 Speaker 1: the thing. What I know to be true is that 1418 01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,720 Speaker 1: we all have these abilities, and what I know is 1419 01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:49,200 Speaker 1: that anyone who wants to explore them and wants to 1420 01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:53,840 Speaker 1: open will have experiences. Nobody ever, ever needs to go 1421 01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:57,240 Speaker 1: to a psychic medium to get connected or get their answers. 1422 01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:00,000 Speaker 1: We can do this for ourselves, and that's I think 1423 01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,600 Speaker 1: what I would want everybody to know is to trust themselves, 1424 01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:06,520 Speaker 1: try to challenge the doubt they have within themselves. Don't 1425 01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:09,400 Speaker 1: believe me, go test it for yourself and explore it. 1426 01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:12,680 Speaker 1: Because being open minded, I mean being closed minded prevents 1427 01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:17,040 Speaker 1: you from seeing these things so much. So there's no 1428 01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,040 Speaker 1: harm in being open to it because there's all sorts 1429 01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,400 Speaker 1: of magic happening it. Really, that is the word I 1430 01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,240 Speaker 1: would use. It becomes so magical. But I have a 1431 01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,439 Speaker 1: bigger beef with you because you also told me during 1432 01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:28,360 Speaker 1: my reading that Bob Muller was going to be the 1433 01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:31,640 Speaker 1: end of Donald Trump something along the lines those lines. 1434 01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,240 Speaker 1: I asked you specifically about my boyfriend Bob Muller, and 1435 01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,480 Speaker 1: you told me it was going to be great when 1436 01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:40,720 Speaker 1: his investigation was done, So explain that. You know, I 1437 01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,160 Speaker 1: think that there is a lot. So when I read, 1438 01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:44,920 Speaker 1: I read energy and if I said that, I'm going 1439 01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:46,280 Speaker 1: to stand by that. A lot of times do I 1440 01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:48,320 Speaker 1: get what's called psychic amnesia. So I'll bring things through 1441 01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:49,680 Speaker 1: and then I won't remember much of what I said, 1442 01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:51,800 Speaker 1: but I do convenient. Yeah, that is convenient, right. It 1443 01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:53,400 Speaker 1: sounds like a cop out, But what I am going 1444 01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,040 Speaker 1: to say is that there is a lot When we 1445 01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:59,080 Speaker 1: talk about free will, choice, we talk about others, people's energies, 1446 01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:02,920 Speaker 1: affecting discourse, dynamic, the way things goes. I think that 1447 01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:08,440 Speaker 1: there has been more buried than we can possibly fathom, 1448 01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:12,120 Speaker 1: and I don't fully understand all the reasons, but I 1449 01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:15,160 Speaker 1: feel like sometimes the truth would be a little bit 1450 01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:18,599 Speaker 1: too much for people to own and deal with, Like 1451 01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:24,080 Speaker 1: what if, just what if the actual outcome of the 1452 01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:27,200 Speaker 1: election really wasn't what it seemed to be? What do 1453 01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:29,599 Speaker 1: we do if we bring that truth out? How can 1454 01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:32,639 Speaker 1: we undo? Like that would just put us into chaos? 1455 01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:35,479 Speaker 1: So sometimes I think things need to play out a 1456 01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,920 Speaker 1: certain way. What I do know is that even though 1457 01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:41,720 Speaker 1: it might seem like we're in terribly dark times right 1458 01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:45,160 Speaker 1: with people really arguing with each other and hating each 1459 01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:47,639 Speaker 1: other and being on such opposite sides, I think we're 1460 01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:51,360 Speaker 1: in a tremendous time of growth, and I think that 1461 01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:54,439 Speaker 1: even though it seems dark, it's incredibly light filled. People 1462 01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:57,599 Speaker 1: being called into action, We're being questioned, people are being 1463 01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:01,120 Speaker 1: asked to examine basically what they're afraid of, Like why 1464 01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:04,040 Speaker 1: are we afraid of losing power? Why are we afraid 1465 01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:06,400 Speaker 1: of losing guns? Why are we afraid of letting people 1466 01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:09,200 Speaker 1: here into the country, Like what is it we're afraid of? 1467 01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:12,360 Speaker 1: We need to examine that collectively together. To me, I 1468 01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:17,519 Speaker 1: actually do feel like that has like that's it hasn't 1469 01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:21,240 Speaker 1: been remedied, but it's being addressed in a way that 1470 01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:25,599 Speaker 1: still needs maybe a little more time. And I think 1471 01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:29,040 Speaker 1: that there have been things that at the last minute 1472 01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:31,760 Speaker 1: somebody said, no, we can't release this, No I'm not 1473 01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:34,439 Speaker 1: going to step up and do that, for maybe reasons 1474 01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:37,360 Speaker 1: we don't fully understand. You know, I kind of kept 1475 01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:39,479 Speaker 1: journals and things. A lot of times when things go 1476 01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:41,800 Speaker 1: on in the news, I try and see, like, Okay, 1477 01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:43,240 Speaker 1: let me tune and let me see what I think 1478 01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:45,280 Speaker 1: is going to happen, And every now and then I'll 1479 01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:48,040 Speaker 1: feel like a sharp turn or a change. It happens 1480 01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:50,120 Speaker 1: in my own life with things too, Like I'll see 1481 01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:53,760 Speaker 1: a certain project and then you know, I'll call someone 1482 01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,439 Speaker 1: involved and be like everything just changed, what just happened? 1483 01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:58,759 Speaker 1: Because the whole energy is going in the opposite direction 1484 01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:00,960 Speaker 1: and the person w to be like, oh I got 1485 01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,320 Speaker 1: this phone call and this just one a different way. Um. 1486 01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:06,200 Speaker 1: So I do think the energy that each one of 1487 01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:09,679 Speaker 1: us brings can affect situations. Can it affect a massive 1488 01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:13,320 Speaker 1: situation like that? Yes? Do I think that the truth 1489 01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:17,280 Speaker 1: of the Mother Report is right there for everyone to read? Yes? 1490 01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:21,360 Speaker 1: Do I think that if we don't own things in 1491 01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:23,639 Speaker 1: the here and now, we have to own them once 1492 01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:28,600 Speaker 1: we cross. Yes. Responsibility is responsibility. It's nice when it 1493 01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:30,400 Speaker 1: plays out here on the earthly realm and we can 1494 01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:31,720 Speaker 1: kind of get through it. Yeah. I don't want to 1495 01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:33,960 Speaker 1: go over there and just start getting spanked or anything. 1496 01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,320 Speaker 1: Good time not part of not talking about you? Okay, Yeah, 1497 01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,439 Speaker 1: I can copy that, okay, And also, well let's talk 1498 01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:41,320 Speaker 1: about me. Let's end because we have to wrap this up, 1499 01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:43,720 Speaker 1: but let's let's end with me. I would like to know. 1500 01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,280 Speaker 1: So when I had my reading with you, probably a 1501 01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:47,760 Speaker 1: year and a half ago, was just when I was 1502 01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:50,400 Speaker 1: writing my book. I was in a like a very 1503 01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:53,120 Speaker 1: tumultuous not a tumultuous time. I was just about to 1504 01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:56,000 Speaker 1: you know, I was writing The Thicker Therapy and I 1505 01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:58,080 Speaker 1: was starting to figure everything out. And I had started 1506 01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:00,120 Speaker 1: writing my book, and you told me it was going 1507 01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,280 Speaker 1: to be number one New York Times bestseller, which was right. 1508 01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:05,040 Speaker 1: But also I've had previous New York that you needed 1509 01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:10,080 Speaker 1: to be psycho. I'm kind of give you that one. 1510 01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:13,559 Speaker 1: But you did say you were very optimistic about me 1511 01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:15,840 Speaker 1: meeting somebody that I could be in a relationship with. 1512 01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:18,840 Speaker 1: And I was just starting to open my my mind 1513 01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:21,920 Speaker 1: to that. So tell me what you think about that 1514 01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:25,160 Speaker 1: and what you feel just by being around me about that. 1515 01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:27,720 Speaker 1: I remember writing down what I wanted in a guy 1516 01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:29,519 Speaker 1: because you told me too, and I was kind of 1517 01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:31,800 Speaker 1: half asked, but I did it anyway. I wrote down 1518 01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:34,000 Speaker 1: a lot of what we talked about. I haven't looked 1519 01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:35,760 Speaker 1: at it in a while, but I remember some of it. 1520 01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,240 Speaker 1: And then, you know, I told my makeup artist here 1521 01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:40,200 Speaker 1: in New York to do that. I said, you have 1522 01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:43,080 Speaker 1: to write down everything, whether you want if you're really serious, 1523 01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:45,439 Speaker 1: because I couldn't tell if I was really serious about 1524 01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:48,000 Speaker 1: meeting somebody or not. I thought I was, but I 1525 01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,600 Speaker 1: was like, do I really want that? And she did it, 1526 01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,800 Speaker 1: and she came to my hotel room yesterday and she's like, 1527 01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:55,599 Speaker 1: I did what you said. I wrote it in my phone, 1528 01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:57,080 Speaker 1: which you told me not to. You told me to 1529 01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:59,519 Speaker 1: write it on paper, but I wrote it on my phone. 1530 01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:02,000 Speaker 1: She goes, and I'm at the guy. It works. It works. 1531 01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:03,920 Speaker 1: So here's the thing I want to tell you about you. 1532 01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:07,760 Speaker 1: I remember seeing a relationship for you, and I do 1533 01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:12,240 Speaker 1: feel like you had a little um flexibility in terms 1534 01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:15,320 Speaker 1: of pulling it closer or leaving a little more space. 1535 01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:17,400 Speaker 1: And I think you've done a really beautiful thing in 1536 01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:20,759 Speaker 1: your life. I think you've given yourself this beautiful space 1537 01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:25,200 Speaker 1: to explore and clear and like get really like clean 1538 01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:27,599 Speaker 1: and shiny in terms of your energy and who you are. 1539 01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:30,840 Speaker 1: I think that's a gift you've given yourself. There is 1540 01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:34,000 Speaker 1: absolutely going to be a relationship. There is no way 1541 01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:36,559 Speaker 1: to change energy and not allow that to flood in. 1542 01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,320 Speaker 1: I think it is much closer than you know. I 1543 01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:42,120 Speaker 1: feel like it's right now. It's right on top of you. 1544 01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:44,639 Speaker 1: So either you've just met the person and you don't 1545 01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:46,960 Speaker 1: fully know it yet, you're about to meet the person. 1546 01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:50,200 Speaker 1: It's right here, and I see it evolving over the 1547 01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:53,160 Speaker 1: next year and a half and it being this really 1548 01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:57,240 Speaker 1: really deep, soul connected relationship that had you tried to 1549 01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,479 Speaker 1: arrive at that earlier, you would have missed. It's like 1550 01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:02,200 Speaker 1: being on a different you know, yeah, or being on 1551 01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:04,080 Speaker 1: a different floor, like we're on the you know, a 1552 01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:06,920 Speaker 1: certain floor right now, like people three floors below walking 1553 01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:09,400 Speaker 1: you might not see them. You needed to arrive at 1554 01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:12,880 Speaker 1: yourself before you could arrive at the relationship. And I 1555 01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:15,240 Speaker 1: think there is no way to stop it now in 1556 01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:18,760 Speaker 1: a beautiful way, it is set. Its course is set um. 1557 01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:22,160 Speaker 1: The universe has magical ways of drawing people together. I 1558 01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:25,160 Speaker 1: think the really exciting part for you is where is 1559 01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:27,000 Speaker 1: it going to show up? Because I think there's still 1560 01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:30,840 Speaker 1: some surprises for you and it might interest be like 1561 01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:34,760 Speaker 1: interesting in retrospect, you know, years later, looking back, being like, 1562 01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:38,599 Speaker 1: look how they universe organized me, meaning this person, Like 1563 01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:43,240 Speaker 1: how it got us in each other's path through that's 1564 01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:46,000 Speaker 1: a dating app that a mom that maybe that's how 1565 01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:48,040 Speaker 1: I made him on a dating app. That's not my 1566 01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:53,160 Speaker 1: sense of it, Okay, but you're hilarious. I mean it's seriously. 1567 01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:58,960 Speaker 1: Here's the thing too, like weak men fear strong women. Yeah, 1568 01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:01,439 Speaker 1: I don't want to be fear your fierce right. So 1569 01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:04,439 Speaker 1: we've also needed to wait for everything to be kind 1570 01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:07,000 Speaker 1: of organized because the person you're going to be with 1571 01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:11,559 Speaker 1: is not like anybody you've ever been with before. There's 1572 01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:13,000 Speaker 1: not going to be work you need to do to 1573 01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,479 Speaker 1: fix the person to help them like. They're going to 1574 01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:17,720 Speaker 1: come at it from a place of being a very 1575 01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,080 Speaker 1: evolved soul too, and so it's going to be an 1576 01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:22,920 Speaker 1: incredible connection and relationship. I think it's going to surprise 1577 01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:24,639 Speaker 1: you in a lot of ways. All Right, well, good, 1578 01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:27,200 Speaker 1: I'm ready. I think I'm ready. I hope i'm ready. 1579 01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:29,920 Speaker 1: I'll report back. You guys will know if I'm ready. Laura, 1580 01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,400 Speaker 1: thank you for coming into the city and meeting me. 1581 01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:35,240 Speaker 1: It's so good to see you. I love your books 1582 01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:37,559 Speaker 1: and I know a lot of other people too. So 1583 01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:39,800 Speaker 1: it's called science. The Secret Language of the Universe is 1584 01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,240 Speaker 1: her latest book. You, guys, if you want something to 1585 01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:44,439 Speaker 1: make you feel warm and fuzzy, then then you should 1586 01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:47,360 Speaker 1: read it. Thanks so much for having me. Thank you. 1587 01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:53,759 Speaker 1: Life will be the death of Me. As a production 1588 01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:56,320 Speaker 1: of I heart Radio. 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