WEBVTT - How Sea Monsters Work 0:00:01.120 --> 0:00:04.320 Welcome to you Stuff you should know from House Stuff 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:12.640 Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm 0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:16.400 Josh Clark. There's Charles to Chuck Bryant. There's guest producer Noel. 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:20.520 There's Nicola Tesla. It's stuff you should know. There's Johnny 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:25.480 and Scott are there's your imaginary No, that was Sigmund 0:00:25.560 --> 0:00:28.880 the Sea Monster. Did you watch that show? No, Once again, 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:33.639 the brief cultural divide expans between us from the seventies 0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:35.320 or earlier. Yeah, it was one of the Sid and 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:38.720 Marty Croft shows. Hr puffin stuff. Yeah, Sigmund the Sea 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:41.760 Monster and Johnny and Scott Warres Buddies. Yeah, he was 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:45.560 like a you know, he's a dude in a suit. 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:48.000 I reckon, but he was. He looked like a big 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:51.320 blob of kelp. I'm sure it's total nightmare fuel with eyes. 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:54.680 That was cool. Sid Marty Croft man. Yeah, their sensibilities 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:57.920 scare me. Yeah. I went to the place once in Atlanta. 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:00.160 You know, they had down at the Omni uh which 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:03.080 is now Phillips Arena. They had Sid Marty Croft World 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:05.160 or whatever, and I went down there once and looking 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:08.840 back now, it was like a drug fueled indoor amusement part. 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:11.040 You're like, why are there so many twenty year old 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:16.120 tire Yeah? I never really put with kids. Yeah, uh yeah, 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:18.959 I'm sure. I say this every single time that we 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:22.120 talk about Sid marty Croft. But you've seen the Mr 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:26.720 Show State of Drug Achusets. Yeah, that's one of the best. 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:29.040 I mean, it's hard to pick out for Mr. Show, 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:33.760 but that's definitely up there. Yeah, that's top five easy. Yeah. 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:38.240 And that's sea monsters. Sea monsters, They're Gonna get you soon? 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:42.840 Is that from a show? Okay? From this show? So, Chuck, 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:46.119 are you familiar much with sea monsters when you're researching 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:49.560 this where you like everybody knows all this sort of 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:53.080 half and half? Yeah, I felt similar. There were a 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:55.040 lot of stuff, a lot of things in here that 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:57.360 I hadn't heard of, and the extra research we did 0:01:57.360 --> 0:02:02.160 too yielded some new insights. But one of the things 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:04.480 that stuck out to me, and I guess it's probably 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:08.440 the thesis of this whole thing, is that we've been 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:12.799 seeing sea monsters for millennia. We've been talking about sea 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:16.400 monsters for millennia, and we still are like, have you 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:19.960 heard of the montalk monster? Yes? Did you see pictures 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:22.200 of that thing. Yeah, I remember when it came out. Okay, 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:25.480 I just heard of it yesterday. Yeah, I feel bad 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:28.200 for not sharing that with you. It's awesome. Yeah that 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:31.519 in the two thousand eight um what was the beach? 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:36.000 It was around Montalk, Yeah, but there was a specific beach, 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:39.840 ditch planes beach. This girl and her three friends found 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:44.239 this washed up Montalk monster. And I think what's funny 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:47.799 is they still there's a trend here in naming these 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:52.440 things sensationally throughout history, and we still do it. Because 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:55.600 they could have called it like a decomposed raccoon, but 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:58.920 they called it the Montalk monster. And the jury is 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:02.600 not out. It is a decomposed raccoon, Yeah they I 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:04.960 mean they pretty much think so. But it's not like 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:07.320 you can't prove that. I mean, they have like a 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:12.280 line of biologists from Montalk to Manhattan saying it's a raccoon. 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:15.600 It's a raccoon without its fur, which makes it look awesome. 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:18.880 I've heard some other paleo zoologists say, like it maybe 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:21.920 a sheep, though I think it was too small, or 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:25.880 other animals. But it's definitely not a monster, a sea monster. 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:29.239 But this is two thousand and eight we're talking about, 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:31.320 and some weird thing washes up on a beach, and 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:35.400 around the world people hear of the Montalk Monster except 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:37.440 for me. Yeah, did you see the East River Monster? 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:40.600 I heard that one was a pig. Yeah, it's clearly 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:42.560 a pig, but it's still kind of cool looking. But 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:45.440 still they named it the East River Monster, and not 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:47.960 a pig. That was you know, I don't know how 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:50.480 the pig got there, right, the pig of East River 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:52.480 or something like that. Yeah, it's probably like, you know, 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:55.400 somewhere in Chinatown a pig was no good and the 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:58.880 other thing in the river. That's what they do. Yeah. Um. 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:03.960 Also in two thousand six, um, there was one in Russia. 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:08.240 I didn't see where, but on a beach. Uh, something 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:11.720 washed up and they said sea monster. And it turned 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:14.560 out to be a beluga whale carcass, greatly decomposed, but 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:17.200 it looked weird. It didn't look anything like a beluga whale. 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:20.479 But the point is is still in the twenty one century, 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:24.839 whenever the sea spits something up, we're like, this is 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:27.880 a monster. Clearly, obviously this is a monster. And then 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:30.520 biologists come along and say it's not a monster, but 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:35.320 it's this weird thing, or sometimes they say this is new. 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:38.800 Yeah it's not a monster, but this is new. And 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:41.520 this is the point finally that I'm trying to get to, 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:47.120 is that the the oceans, the seas cover seventies percent 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:51.480 of Earth's surface. Right, That's a lot of hiding places. 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:54.839 And I think humans have known and still no intuitively 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:56.760 that there's a lot of stuff down there that we 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:58.919 don't know about. We don't know what it is. But 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:03.640 over time we science has replaced superstition enough so that 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:05.440 while we still know there's stuff out there that we 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:07.800 don't know, we don't think of him as monsters. So 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:12.760 our mindset has changed somewhat. Yeah, But ultimately, the sea 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:17.920 is this place of unknown, unknown organisms that we're still 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:23.000 learning about. What's the of the deepest seas are still 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:27.360 uncompletely like, unresearched and undiscovered. Well, James Cameron just took 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:30.840 away a little percentage of that with his Deep Sea Dive. 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:33.839 He took away a bit of my soul with every 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:37.880 movie he's made since Terminator Too. You like Terminator Too? 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:40.400 I didn't see that one. That's pretty good. Huh, Yeah, 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:42.640 I think that was that was a good one. Have 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:46.800 you not seen Titanic. Did you know that the there 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:51.359 was an alternate ending for it, where like they kept 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:57.160 the diamond or where something like the Titantanic didn't sink. Right, 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:01.400 it worked out well in the end. No, Bill Paxton 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:05.080 ended up getting in on throwing the diamond away. That's 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:09.320 what it was, I think. Um. Speaking of recent sea 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:11.800 monsters though, which is not a sea monster. But did 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:16.239 you see the footage of the anglerfish? That's another great point. Yeah, 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:20.000 some of these deep sea creatures look like creepy monsters. 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:22.880 I mean, the the anglerfish is one of the scariest 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:25.440 looking things I've ever seen in my life. Creepy and 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:28.120 uh it's real though, It's just you know, science is 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:29.640 It's not like, oh, what is this thing? They know 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:32.039 what the angler fish is exactly, but they live so deep. 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:34.880 I think until recently, it had never been filmed in 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:41.080 its habitat until like this year, until like three weeks ago. Yeah. Um, 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:44.320 apparently it wasn't until nineteen seventy five that we ever 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:50.440 photographed a whale underwater. Yeah. Interesting, two thousand six, I think, um, 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:55.280 or nineteen seventy six we discovered the mega mouth shark. Uh, 0:06:54.960 --> 0:07:00.760 there's like the sea just coughs up new life to that. Yeah, 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:03.520 where were slightly more superstitious, we would have called monsters. 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:06.880 So that's pretty much the explanation of sea monsters. But 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:10.160 it goes back, like really really far, and looking at 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:12.600 the different kind of monsters we came up with really 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:16.800 kind of reveals a lot about our mentality. Yeah, it 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:19.160 goes back. I mean pretty much since people were writing 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:23.280 stuff down, somebody was writing about some kind of sea monster, 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:25.480 like the ocean is always just enthralled folks. I think 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:30.760 the Mesopotamians had the goddess uh Tiamatt. It was a 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:33.480 sea monster. Well she was, yeah, and she was their 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:37.760 creator goddess originally. So if you go far enough back 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:40.960 and Mesopotamian lore, that's where the world came from, that's 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:44.240 where the universe came from. Was Tiamat, right, And then 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:49.560 eventually as Mesopotamia grew and evolved, um, she became what's 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:53.840 known as the chaos monster, and she was slain by 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:58.000 a male hero as and then the world was created 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:00.760 from from that. But originally she was just a benevolent 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:03.400 creator goddess. Well, and we'll see as we go through here, 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:05.680 not all of the sea monsters that depends on the 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:08.760 culture and the religion. Uh. Some of them were benevolent. 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:13.160 I know the Chinese revere their dragons and sea monsters. Uh. 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:18.360 The Old Testament had its Leviathan. So even in the Bible, right, 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:20.960 and this is a question of mine, dude, is do 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:25.200 do don't you think that the Leviathan and Tiamat are 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:28.640 one and the same. And in the Old Testament it's 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:34.600 the Hebrew God slaying the old Mesothamian gods saying, don't 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.640 even bring that here, like you created the world, I 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:41.400 slay you. Yeah, I am God. Well, I mean there's 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:44.280 a lot of crossover with stuff from the Old Testament 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:47.959 and other religions. And some people take great offense to that. 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:52.600 Others don't what that that it's not No, this is 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:56.600 the word of God period. There is no crossover. That's 0:08:56.600 --> 0:09:02.120 just coincidence. Um, twenty leagues under the sea. I think 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:05.240 Jules Verne this quote is pretty cool. Uh. In eighteen 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:08.360 seventy he wrote that great great book. Uh, and he said, 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:11.840 either we do know all the right varieties of beings 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:15.200 which people our planet, where we do not. If we 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:17.920 do not know them all, if nature has still secrets 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:20.760 in the deeps for us, nothing is more conformable to 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:24.800 reason than to admit the existence of fishes or cetaceans 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:27.560 and other kinds of even new species, to which the 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:32.000 character receiving that monologue said the yeah, but it just 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:36.560 it kind of plays to the point um that if 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:40.320 there are undiscovered things, they're always high in the mountains, 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:42.360 are deep in the jungles, or deep under the sea 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:44.760 because people would have seen them. So it makes it 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:49.520 exotic in uh, sort of grabby as means of religion 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:53.640 or literature, you know, lore, right, Plus the Jules Verne 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:56.000 was writing in well, this is eighteen seventy when he 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:58.079 wrote Twenty Leagues under the Sea, So this is a 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:02.040 time when a lot of the old myths and legends 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:08.280 and monsters were being subsumed by biology. So like, yeah, 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:11.840 that monster that you saw, that thing does exist, but 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:15.960 it's not actually a kraken. It's an it's it's yeah, 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:19.560 or it's a it's a giant squid. And and here's 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:23.240 you know what it does and how it reproduces. And 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:27.240 because it's being studied, it's not just being feared. Yeah, 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:29.679 that's a good point. The Greeks and Romans, if you're 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:32.920 a fan of mythology. They are. There are tons and 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:35.760 tons of cool stories about sea creatures and sea monsters, 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:39.880 all kinds of monsters. Uh, namely one Cetus named by 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:47.120 the Romans. King Cepheus had a wife named Cassiopeia maybe 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:49.840 ruled Ethiopia apparently, and she said, you know what, my 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:53.640 daughter Andromeda is more beautiful than all the sea nymphs. 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:56.600 And of course, um, she's like, yeah, I said it. Yeah, 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:58.920 And Setis was like, all right, well, I've got a 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:01.520 dog like head and I'm part fish, and I'm gonna 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:06.920 come up and kill your daughter. Kill kill Setis. And Perseus, 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:09.439 of course, is always saving the day. So he apparently 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:12.760 was flying back carrying Medusa's head that he just chopped off, 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:17.880 flying around, and uh, it just happened to pass by. 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:21.240 Uh was it Persephone who was about to be eaten 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:24.520 and Dromeda Andromeda and said, all right, I'll take care 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:28.280 of Setis on my way home. My swords bloody already. 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:32.520 Harry Hamlin, who was Yeah, I never saw the remake 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:35.000 of that, did you see that? I didn't either. I 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:39.240 just remember release the crack and yeah it was a buzzword. Yeah, 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:45.240 that's right. Even Neeson has a knack for buzzy movie. Uh, 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:49.240 lines of dialogue, because that very particular set of skills 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:53.600 was also a big thing for months, four different movies. 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:56.200 I was just in the one Are you sure? Yeah, 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:58.360 take him? Yeah, it was pretty good movie, by the way, 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:02.160 sure sure. Did not see the sequel though, Taken to 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:04.760 Electric Boogaloo. Yeah. I thought it was weird when he 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:09.120 started breaking. Yeah, he's doing the worm, but like not 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:11.160 even very well. I would have thought they'd get like 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:14.120 a body double who was like a professional dancer. Well, 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:16.360 he did not have a particular set at skills when 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:19.120 it came to being on the cardboard. Now, Chuck, we'll 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:23.200 we'll talk a little more about um mythology and what 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:26.200 it reveals about humans and sea monsters right after this, 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:35.960 So Chucky, you're talking about Perseus slaying setis um. Homer's 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:42.920 Odyssey was also another great book of legends and mythology. Yeah, 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:47.360 and there were some sea monsters in it. Yeah, Sila 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:54.000 or skilla and uh scharibdis charybdis. Uh. These two point 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:59.360 out an important and ongoing um feature of some of 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:02.480 these stories with are that maybe they might symbolize something 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:07.080 else real. Yes, either a sea monster or in this case, 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:11.800 maybe a dangerous reef or whirlpools. That's a pretty common 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:16.160 thing another cracking. Also, the most dangerous part about the cracking, 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:21.240 supposedly is the whirlpool that it creates. Right, So, um, 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:24.880 this is kind of a this is one thesis on 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:29.800 why sea monsters developed. It was as an allegory. Yeah, 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:33.559 a you know, a tale told of of warning. Right, 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:38.880 So that quote or that description of Scylla's described as 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:42.640 having twelve ft six heads atop, long sinuous necks and 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:46.680 mouths bristling with rows of shark like teeth. Well, um, 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:51.320 that's probably a reef, right, and then sure just lay 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:54.959 on the opposite shore and periodically swallowed and regurgitated the waters. 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:58.600 There probably a whirlpool, right, So it's story saying maybe 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:02.000 don't go there exact exactly. Did you read that thing 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:06.120 on nuclear semiotics, dude, Let me tell you about this 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:10.600 for a second. Okay, there is this, um, this whole 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:16.560 exploration that's trying to figure out how to express say 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:19.840 so like, if you have nuclear waste and you need 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:21.760 to put it away for ten thousand years and to 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:24.840 keep people away from it for ten thousand years, you 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.400 have to figure out a way to warn people away 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:30.200 from it for ten thousand years. Well, how could you 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:34.640 possibly do that? Godzilla sign? That's one idea. There's a 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:36.320 lot of other ideas, and this whole thing is called 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:41.080 nuclear semiotics, and one of the ways to probably the 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:44.840 most agreed upon way, is to create this thing called 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:49.080 the nuclear Priesthood, which is this group of learned people 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:54.000 who know the secret of this nuclear waste site but 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:58.479 purposefully come up with a folklore to warn people away, 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:01.440 so to add some sort of like superstitious danger or 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:03.640 something to the site that will get passed down and 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:07.120 passed down, so eventually the people surrounding the area, live 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:10.360 around it will know, like, you don't want to go there, 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:12.960 You'll get killed. It has nothing to do with nuclear 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:16.560 radiation anymore, but this foolklore will get passed along and along, 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:19.280 and they're saying like that may be the best way 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:23.080 to pass along information. And that's exactly what um what 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:26.440 the idea. One interpretation of what sea monsters are is. 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:28.560 It's like a ghost story too. You know, you don't 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:30.520 want your kids to go in that decrepit house with 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:32.840 all the rusty nails. Tell him a scary old lady 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:34.880 lives in there, or to play near the water. You 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:38.120 don't want you don't want a carp to take you away. 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:42.920 It's really just manipulating your dumb kid pretty much. It's 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:46.600 not doing dangerous things, right exactly. Yeah, And it works 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:49.520 and it's a way and over time it's gotten passed down. 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:53.160 So that's one interpretation of sea monsters. There's also, like 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:57.320 you said, the kraken um possibly being the giant squid, 0:15:57.400 --> 0:16:01.120 or I shouldn't even say possibly, it's probably a giant squid, right, Yeah, 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:04.680 There's always been stories of the kracking terrorizing ships off 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:07.960 of Iceland and Norway, and the kracking is noted because 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:11.640 it is huge, like one point five a mile to 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:15.680 a mile and a half wide, and uh, you know, 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:18.880 the cracking is, like you said, most likely a giant squid. 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:21.480 If you see a if you're a sailor back then 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:24.720 and you don't know about biology and things yet and 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:28.360 you see a uh an eyeball pop out the size 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:31.200 of a human head, it might make you think that's 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:33.800 a big cracking seamonster exactly. So then if that gets 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:36.240 embellished into something that's a mile and a half wide 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:41.440 with legs as as large as the sailing mast capable 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:43.880 of pulling down a ship. Well, I mean it gets 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.960 the point across the people back on land. Like, wow, 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:49.240 that was a really big monster that you guys saw. 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:51.400 How big do these squids get? They get to like 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:55.840 forty forty three ft forty forty ft long. There's something 0:16:55.840 --> 0:16:58.840 even bigger called the colossal squid. Yeah, that's so much bigger. 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:03.480 It's its own um species, I believe um. And it 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:06.360 lives just in the Antarctic. So it's probably not the 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:09.040 basis of the kracking. It's probably just a regular old 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:11.399 giant squid. But you've seen giant squids. Look look at 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:15.600 those things. They are very scary and they're very very big. 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:18.240 Plus also, the idea of the crack and may have 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:22.439 first come about before sightings of giant squid. They may 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:27.080 have been taken from whalers who found like crazy scars 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:30.200 on whales, who may have found like bits of tentacles, 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:33.679 like huge tentacles in the whales stomachs, things like that, 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:36.440 and been like, what did this come from? Yeah, the beak, 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:39.320 because they did find a giant squid once, but the 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:42.119 sailors cut it up and used it for bait. But 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:45.320 they preserved the beak, and that just fueled the legend 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:48.880 even more and more. So that's the that's another interpretation 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:54.440 of sea monsters is that they came from misunderstood or 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:59.280 embellished sightings of actual sea organisms that were familiar with. Now, 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:02.560 so it's the same thing, we just changed the name. Sure, well, 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:06.280 your sailor, you're drunk. Maybe you may be hallucinating because 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:08.600 you've been out at sea for too long, licking toads, 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:15.400 maybe looking toads. You may be uh, physically ill, sleep deprived, fatigued. Um. 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:17.840 And you see a giant squid, you might write in 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:21.800 your journal that I've seen the kracking. It makes perfect sense, 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:25.200 sure you know, and it spreads and takes shape over time, 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:29.879 little scurvy going on. The kracking is not the only one. Um. 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:34.080 That's probably based on something real, the like sea serpents. 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:38.720 So the Leviathan was a sea serpent, many headed sea serpent. 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:41.800 It was a Mesopotamian god, like we said, Oh no, 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:45.119 I'm sorry it was. It was in the the Old Testament. 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:48.800 It may have been the Mesopotamian god. That's what I said. Yeah, 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:51.040 but Leviathan always is sort of a catch all word 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:54.399 now for any like large unknown, huge creature. Yeah, and 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:58.760 apparently it's in Hebrew it just means whale. Yeah. Um, 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:01.560 which again it was probably well, well, yeah, it could 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:03.840 have also been a sea serpents. So stea serpents are 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:08.359 there are their own things. Um the uh, the Norse 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:13.720 had a legend of the yourman gander. There's mornwatt in 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:17.399 there and everything. And that was apparently, um, one of 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:22.480 Thor's bigger headaches. Yeah, that was the baby that was 0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:26.600 created when Loki, his brother and a woman named on 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:31.160 Garboda I guess, had um the sex of the gods, 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:35.080 and created this creature, a sea serpent that wrapped around 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:39.720 the globe supposedly. Yeah, and um, that's just one example 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:44.200 of a sea serpent, huge sea bound snake. And there's 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:48.399 a lot of suggestions of what accounted for sightings of 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:53.320 sea serpents, huge things of floating kelp seen in the distance. Um, 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:57.360 schools of porpoises, yeah, along the line together. There's one 0:19:57.400 --> 0:20:00.280 thing though, that could have accounted for all sighting of 0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:02.680 sea serpents. It's called the or fish. Did you see 0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:05.600 this thing? Yeah? It is huge and um, if an 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:08.280 or fish was was swimming in the water, it could 0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:11.399 be undulating up and down and it looks like little 0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:14.040 spiny humps coming in and out of the water, So 0:20:14.080 --> 0:20:16.199 that that makes sense. Sure they get up to you, 0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:21.040 I think, um, thirty or forty, Yeah they can. I 0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:23.800 mean there's there's plenty of photos of you know, like 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:27.679 tin dudes on a beach holding one up because it 0:20:27.720 --> 0:20:29.959 takes tin dudes. It's not like they all want their 0:20:30.000 --> 0:20:34.040 hand on the little fish exactly, you know. And these 0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:36.880 aren't photoshop either. There's all kinds of stupid fake pictures too, 0:20:36.880 --> 0:20:39.680 but or fishes are huge and they look like big, 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:45.280 slimy kind of serpentine fish. And then chuck. Mer people 0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:51.879 were another kind of universal Um, I guess sea monster myth. 0:20:52.160 --> 0:20:54.159 That's a That's another thing that stuck out to me, 0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:59.920 is there where there are legends around the world from culture, 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:05.320 was there separated by space and time that had similar stories, 0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:10.840 um without possibly interacting. So it makes you think that 0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:13.960 a lot of these people cited similar things and came 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:16.760 up with similar myths and legends to explain what they 0:21:16.760 --> 0:21:19.720 were seeing. Probably the mermaid is you know, if you've 0:21:19.760 --> 0:21:22.679 seen splash, you think, what what a neat thing to 0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:26.320 find a mermaid? But mermaids were not um looked upon 0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:29.480 kindly because they would yuh and this article points out 0:21:29.520 --> 0:21:32.479 they would at the their best they would just forget 0:21:32.520 --> 0:21:35.440 that you can't breathe and drag you underwater till you die. 0:21:35.480 --> 0:21:37.640 And if the worst, they would do so on purpose 0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:41.240 and take the men down under the water and lights 0:21:41.240 --> 0:21:44.919 out for you. Tom Hanks, Yeah sorry, Tom Hanks, Sorry 0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:48.119 for the rest of your career. Darryl, his career was 0:21:48.119 --> 0:21:52.560 pretty lousy after splash liing it. Well, uh yeah, what 0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:57.439 um she Daryl Hannah though in the movie would she 0:21:57.560 --> 0:22:00.640 was not a bad mermaid because she uh kissed him 0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:04.959 and gave him breath right, Well, that's the Hollywood ification 0:22:05.040 --> 0:22:09.240 of the Mermaid legend. Or like aerial from Little Mermaid 0:22:11.040 --> 0:22:15.240 and that dirty dirty DVD cover Oh yeah, I guess 0:22:15.240 --> 0:22:17.480 it was VHS cover. They probably corrected that before it 0:22:17.480 --> 0:22:23.520 went to DVD, probably those Disney guys board board and yeah, yeah, 0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:28.280 I get bored and blank. So um. The whole mer 0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:33.840 creature had root in the Nordic areas and Scotland, which 0:22:33.880 --> 0:22:36.760 apparently there's parts of Scotland that are so far north 0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:42.119 that they consider themselves Nordic rather than Scottish. Yeah, Orkney, 0:22:42.160 --> 0:22:44.720 I think. And there's a whole part of Scotland it's 0:22:44.760 --> 0:22:48.359 underwater now called dog Land that was around ten or 0:22:48.400 --> 0:22:51.760 twelve thousand years ago. That's like this really fertile neolithic 0:22:52.400 --> 0:22:55.760 artifact area. It's pretty cool Doggerland, that's what it is, 0:22:55.800 --> 0:22:58.680 not dog Land. So um, they had their own things 0:22:58.720 --> 0:23:02.399 called carpis chuck. And what's interesting about the carpie is 0:23:02.440 --> 0:23:09.560 that the the kelpie. I was thinking harpies, kepies exactly, 0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:13.840 but this is not carp or harpies. They're kelpies, which 0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:18.200 are actually horses that live in the sea that can 0:23:18.359 --> 0:23:23.679 sometimes change into humans, so they're kind of mer creatures. 0:23:23.720 --> 0:23:26.840 But every every lake in Scotland has a kelpie, this 0:23:26.920 --> 0:23:30.399 is supposedly associated with it, including lock Nest. And it 0:23:30.440 --> 0:23:34.159 wasn't until the early eighteenth century that NeSSI became like 0:23:34.240 --> 0:23:37.560 a c creature that we think of her today, when 0:23:37.680 --> 0:23:41.879 some dinosaur bones please asaur bones were found around lock Nests, 0:23:41.920 --> 0:23:45.439 saying well, this is what the Lockness monster is. Before 0:23:45.480 --> 0:23:47.280 that it was just a kelpie. We could probably do 0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:51.760 a full show on Nessy just it um has been 0:23:51.760 --> 0:23:56.720 pretty much disproven um unequivocally of course, because there is 0:23:56.800 --> 0:23:59.359 no Lockness Monster. But I just think things like that 0:23:59.400 --> 0:24:00.920 are need and when we did one big Foot, it's 0:24:00.920 --> 0:24:05.080 more about just the legend and the war around it Unlock. 0:24:05.400 --> 0:24:07.640 Did you ever see the documentary that what's his name did, 0:24:07.640 --> 0:24:11.199 Rena Hertzog? No, I didn't know he did one of us. 0:24:11.240 --> 0:24:15.440 It was I think it was. He did a mockumentary, 0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:19.360 but not like a Christopher Guest documentary, just bo documentary 0:24:19.359 --> 0:24:23.920