1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: Alright, We're good. 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 2: You like. 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 3: Busting with the boss, hanging with the fans, betting on 4 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 3: a game no moment's gonna tell us. 5 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 4: Would not be. We're here. 6 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 3: Just drinking beer and making that baby. I'm hanging with 7 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 3: the feelers, Busting with the boys, bro. 8 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 2: Our boys. 9 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 4: Welcome to another episode of Bust with the Boys, Episode 10 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 4: three eleven. Quick note with got a little NFL and 11 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 4: we just sprinkle a little bit of CFB before the 12 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 4: Matthews interview. Great interview. These guys are incredible. You hear 13 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 4: the family dynamic. It is true belly laughs coming your way. 14 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 4: But all of college foot ball talk will take place 15 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 4: in the locker room this week. Big hugs, tiny kisses, 16 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 4: Please enjoy everything locker room drop serve. 17 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 2: Welcome to another episode of Busting with the Boys. This 18 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: is episode three eleven, brought to us by the Chevy Silverado. 19 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,919 Speaker 2: The playoffs are here and every game counts. The boys 20 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: know when it counts. You can count on the Chevy Silverado, 21 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: a dependable partner with strength, capability, and true grit. 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Fellas, it's been a long week. 32 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: It's been a long seven days. The last time a 33 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: second bus Waldcar Weekends in the books, Walcar Weekend, College 34 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: Football Playoffs, Surviving Barstool and also side note, I hope 35 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: everybody out in LA that listen to our show. I 36 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 2: know we got some California fans. I hope everybody's doing 37 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 2: well safe. Like those fires just seem I mean, it's brutal. 38 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 2: What's going on out there. 39 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 4: It's crazy. What's going on. It's crazy. Also seeing videos 40 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 4: of people adding to the fire in certain parts on Twitter, 41 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 4: which is just nuts, man. 42 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: People adding to the fire. 43 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's videos of people actually going around. I think 44 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 4: there's one specific one of people opening their trunk in 45 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 4: the middle of the highway, pulling out cans of gasoline 46 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 4: and throwing it into the bush. So David Spade came out, 47 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 4: had a selfie video saying, the police found a guy, 48 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 4: let him go, who's starting fires? And he's like, if 49 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 4: you find anybody in the police, arrest them. I'll give 50 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 4: you five thousand dollars. So David Spate said, So, it's 51 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 4: like a something going on out there. 52 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: My god, something going on in. 53 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 4: The City of Angels right now. 54 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 55 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 2: I hope everybody's keeping their head. 56 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 4: Hope everyone's safe. Hope everyone's if we had a this weekend, 57 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 4: I was in Vegas and my neighbor was running from 58 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 4: the fires. I don't know if you guys heard of him. 59 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 4: Adam Sandler heard of him. He was out there, yea, 60 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 4: you meet him? Yeah? I ended up meeting him. 61 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: How to go, just on. 62 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 4: The elevator walking in. 63 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 2: Hey, good morning. 64 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 4: How are you got out of there? 65 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: He was, dude, that was it. 66 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 4: He was running from fires. He was with his wife 67 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 4: and his two kids. They were waiting. They didn't seem 68 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 4: like they want to be bothered. 69 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 2: But you didn't ask if you wanted to be on 70 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 2: busting with the boys. 71 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 4: Not yet, ye And I thought about I thought about 72 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 4: him with the oh you did something with Travis. I 73 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 4: know Travis, we have a show called I thought about 74 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 4: doing the whole thing. I had a whole speech in 75 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 4: my head. Obviously, I was texting you about it. I 76 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 4: haven't thought about writing that note. But then things got 77 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 4: out of him. But uh yeah. I saw him at 78 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 4: the elevator multiple times, walk behind him. Actually, the first 79 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 4: time I saw him, I was walking behind him in 80 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 4: the hallway, him and his daughter, and I was kind 81 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 4: of like five paces behind him, but they didn't know 82 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 4: I was there. So I let like a out so 83 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 4: they knew. Scared the shit out of his daughter, and 84 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 4: it was just like right in there. I was like, oh, 85 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 4: I got to get out of here, narrow hallway. Had 86 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 4: to booge you way too big. You're way too big, 87 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 4: way too big. Yeah, command just like walk like hunched 88 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 4: over walking towards her. It was too much. It was 89 00:03:58,640 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 4: too much. 90 00:03:59,000 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: Man. 91 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: Taylor was telling me how he was in like the 92 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 2: room next to him. I was like, you should slip 93 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: a note like under his door. 94 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 4: I was like, bro, I'm gonna do it for sure, 95 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 4: Gonna do that for sure. And then I was in 96 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 4: the fight of my life for forty eight hours straight. 97 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 4: I kind of I kind of forgot about it a 98 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 4: little bit. But guy is dressed exactly like you see 99 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 4: him all the time. 100 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah he is. 101 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 4: You see, I saw him three times. His outfit never changed, 102 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 4: Like he is a homie, you can just tell. And 103 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 4: the boys at Red Rock were telling me, They're like, 104 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 4: uh yeah. The only thing I was like, is he 105 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 4: like a high maintenance cauves. Again, He's like, no, he's 106 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 4: a high minutes at all. The only thing he wanted 107 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 4: was a lifetime fitness passed for a day to he'll 108 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 4: play pick up basketball. 109 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 2: So they thought it just all time, you know, sanely 110 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 2: to the way he dresses like he's peak, his laundry 111 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 2: pop by his bed and he just gets up the 112 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 2: morning question. 113 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's the guy that like puts his clothes down 114 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 4: and then like puts his feet right in. As he's 115 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 4: getting off the bed, he just pulls the same shorts up. 116 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 4: But yeah, dude, highlight, highlight. It was awesome. It was 117 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 4: a good little deal. But yeah, shouts to people fighting 118 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 4: the fires. That's tough, man. 119 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: Where should we start first? Should we go NFL recap? 120 00:04:58,560 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 2: Should we go college football? Should we go. 121 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 4: So let's go NFL. It's the most recent thing in 122 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 4: my brain right now. 123 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,679 Speaker 2: The Pats like that, are we talking playing let's go there? 124 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 4: Because that is exact I mean, that's exactly what should 125 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 4: have happened. Yeah, exactly what should have happened. And you know, 126 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 4: every Titans fan, obviously being in Nashville, every Titans fan, 127 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 4: Amy Adams, Trunk, everybody who is associated with the Titans 128 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 4: right now punching the air. They're fucking pissed off at 129 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 4: themselves because they messed up bad love Callahan. His story 130 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 4: is still unwritten. We don't know the whole entire thing. 131 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 4: How that that final you know, period happens. However, a 132 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 4: guy like Rabel, it's exactly what the Pats need. Yeah, 133 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 4: it's exactly what the path. 134 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 2: To exactly for Rabel, Like, that's just the perfect storm. 135 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: You're going back to a spot to where you had 136 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: a fourteen year career. Obviously you played for a good 137 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,559 Speaker 2: amount in New England. You got what three Super Bowls, 138 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 2: Patriots Hall of Fame, Yeah, Patriots Hall of Fame. You've 139 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: caught touchdown passes, like, you know the culture, you know 140 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 2: the leadership there. You're going into an environment You're going 141 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: into a situation that's honestly perfect for him. You've got 142 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 2: a good young quarterback in Drake May. You got a 143 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 2: lot of uh, you got a lot of cap space. 144 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 2: You know. The first move too, you got to get 145 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 2: John Striker away from the Los Angeles. 146 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 4: I already texted Stretch. I say, congrats and your moved 147 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 4: to New England. Yeah, he knows what are you talking about? 148 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, you know you're getting ready for the Viking. 149 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 4: But you're right and but yeah, as always, this is 150 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 4: Monday as you're watching the show where it's Tuesday. Was 151 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 4: Thursday Friday. The Vikings and the Rams have not played yet. 152 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 4: We should actually go over that game because I think 153 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 4: you took the Vikings in locker room, right. 154 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, but we don't know. By the time this comes 155 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 2: out of the game, I know. 156 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 4: I'd like to publicly change my opinion, though. I think 157 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 4: the Rams are gonna win that game. I think the 158 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 4: Rams I'm taking. I'm taking a veteran coach that's had 159 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 4: many times in the playoffs. I'm taking him and a 160 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 4: playoff stafford. Yeah, and the playoff stafford. 161 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 5: I like that. 162 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 2: Well, he shows up. I know that his last three 163 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 2: times getting on the grass. He's averaged like one hundred 164 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 2: and fifty yards and throwing for only one or two 165 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 2: touchdowns total to last three games. 166 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 4: Put the script this time. 167 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and you know if the Rams win, he's 168 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: going back. You get to see Detroit's Stafford golf. You 169 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 2: can see that whole thing. That would beat to see that. 170 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 4: God. People saying fuck you. I I can't believe the 171 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 4: line sans did that just tell them go fuck himself 172 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 4: chanting fuck Stafford. Yeah, that is just crazy to me. 173 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 4: But I love it. I absolutely love it. But yeh, 174 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 4: did Raves be on the Pats? Unbelievable. With good news 175 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 4: always comes a little bit of bad news. It seems 176 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 4: like Steelers Twitter is over the Mike Tomlin experience, which 177 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 4: is coming just strictly from my perspective. If you're a 178 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 4: team like the Steelers who has had multiple Super Bowls, 179 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 4: you're a storied, historied franchise, and you have a coach 180 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 4: that gets you in the playoffs, you have to hear 181 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 4: whether you go far, whether you don't go you kind 182 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 4: of just like go that first game and come out. 183 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 4: It's kind of like Tyreek Hill saying, this is my 184 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 4: first time I haven't made the playoffs, I'm out of here. 185 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 4: Like you you just sometimes as a fan you get 186 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 4: so conditioned and callous to the success you've had that's 187 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 4: no longer good enough. Let me tell you, as a 188 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 4: person who played for a franchise that was not always 189 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 4: a guarantee to make the playoffs all the time. Stay 190 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 4: as long as you can understand that this man is 191 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 4: the man for the job. Also us in the playoffs 192 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 4: every single year. If you are picking in that eighteen 193 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 4: to twenty four range every single year, like it's gonna 194 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 4: be tough to get your quarterback, it's gonna get tough 195 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 4: to get those premier blue chip players because a lot 196 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 4: of people think like just because you're picked in the 197 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 4: first round means like that doesn't mean it means you're 198 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 4: like a premium guy. When reality, it's like, how good 199 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 4: is the draft? Who's going before? What are your needs? 200 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 4: Your necessities? When you're picking up in those late teens, 201 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 4: early twenties, it's fucking hard to keep keep establishing you 202 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 4: know a lot of talent on your team while everybody 203 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 4: doesn't catch up. So I'm personally a fan of tomans 204 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 4: Dain if he is fired, so many needs to throw 205 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 4: the bag at him immediately. 206 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 2: But it should be a thing too, Like if you 207 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 2: look at the last what is eight years, he's been 208 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 2: one and done in the playoffs, doesn't just pick just 209 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 2: I guess picking coach like verybel Let's just say he's 210 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 2: on the Titans. Say use the first eight years little 211 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 2: bit we were one and done every year. Fans would 212 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 2: be pretty upset about it. Well, Like and again, Tomlin 213 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 2: is a big culture guy, one of the best culture 214 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 2: guys in the business. He's had his his histories with 215 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 2: like the A B's. 216 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 5: Of the world. 217 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: You've had, You've had to You've had to balance a 218 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 2: lot of different personalities in that locker room. And too, 219 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 2: it's such like over time, even though he's a really 220 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 2: good culture guy, it's the same kind of culture stuff 221 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 2: over and over. Like that could kind of slow down 222 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 2: at some point. 223 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 4: You want to do it, you want it fresh. 224 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, they do have like the lowest paid offense in 225 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 2: the league. They got all their money tied up defensively. 226 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 2: If you're looking at from a zoomed out views, is like, 227 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 2: do you kind of blow up a little bit on 228 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 2: defense and try and get some cap space and restructure 229 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 2: a little bit, move some pieces around. Because as good 230 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: as Cam Hayward is, he's been there forever. He's getting 231 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 2: longer in the two thirteen years now. TJ Widde is 232 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 2: obviously a stud of defensive any type of guy. Yeah, 233 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 2: he's not going anywhere. But you got to almost look 234 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 2: at all of these different options to kind of blow 235 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 2: it up a little bit. If you're gonna stick with Tomlin. 236 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, and going off of you know, the example you 237 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 4: just gave of you if Mike Rabel is at the 238 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 4: Titans for eight years. 239 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 2: Imagine any coach who gets their job in their first 240 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 2: eight years. First year they go to the playoffs. Everybody's 241 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 2: riding high. But every year they get to the playoffs. 242 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 4: In this but that's not the example we're talking about. 243 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 2: They got the ten wins and then lost the final 244 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 2: four or five games. 245 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 4: I understand, However, you're talking about a sample size of 246 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 4: eight years from Tomlin. He's been there forever. He won 247 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 4: a Super Bowl in two thousand and eight with the Steelers, 248 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 4: like he's had more of it. I'm just saying, if 249 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 4: you look at he said, hey, I'm gonna give you 250 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 4: a head coach, you' gonna make the playoffs every single year, 251 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 4: but you're gonna be out of the playoffs after the 252 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 4: first round every single year for eight years. You probably say, no, 253 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 4: I'm not going to sign up for that. But if 254 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 4: you had a little more context to you know, Le'Veon 255 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 4: bell Ab kind of you're saying the Pouncy Brothers, all 256 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 4: these and the poundcer Bulls. You say pouncy because they're 257 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 4: such a prolific group of individuals, when really only one 258 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 4: pouncy brother played there. Marky's pouncy is one of the 259 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 4: greatest leaders from my understanding that anyone's ever seen, Like 260 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 4: he is one of those guys that are just all 261 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 4: fucking time, like a true locker room guy, keeps everybody 262 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 4: in check, but like still very unique, loud, boisterous like 263 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 4: individual we're free hernandez hats when all that stuff was 264 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 4: going on, like they are in the public, and we'll 265 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 4: do some controversial things if you're able to navigate that. 266 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 4: Many personalities have sustainable success and being somewhere for so long. 267 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 4: For me, it's very difficult to say, okay, go ahead 268 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 4: and walk away from that because the grass is not 269 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 4: always greener on the other side. You don't know how 270 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 4: good you're gonna have it. I feel like the Titans 271 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 4: are feeling that a little bit right now. Like I said, 272 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 4: that story is still unwritten. But you just once you 273 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 4: start getting away from stuff. And then also you look 274 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 4: at the Patriots. We're very excited for Rabel, but if 275 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 4: Rabel doesn't have success, you're not looking at like, hey, 276 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 4: maybe we should have stayed with Belichick. Let him stay 277 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 4: for as long as you want it. So it's it's 278 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 4: it's scarier to get away from Tomlin. It's safer to 279 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 4: stay because from the outside our perspective looking in on 280 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 4: the Steelers. That's just my take on it. 281 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 6: I think that George Pickens, as I was thinking about 282 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 6: it more as crazy as his press conference sounded, that 283 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 6: answer is almost I feel like Steeler's nation of like, 284 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 6: how do you feel like the year went? We progressed, 285 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 6: it was good, I got better. Are you optimistic? 286 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 2: No? 287 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 6: I had a decent year, And I feel like that's 288 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 6: how the fans kind of feel. Yeah, does George Pickens 289 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 6: know what optimistic means? That was the question on the internet. 290 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 4: Is funny. He has got to be probably the number 291 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 4: one character in the league right now. 292 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, he's my favorite player. 293 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 4: He's a fair player. He really is. But he just 294 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 4: you'll just see a play going on and they will 295 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 4: be in the corner of the screen of throwing somebody 296 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 4: to the ground. 297 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 2: Watching a game. 298 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 4: Street rat type ship. 299 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: They're gonna have to get on the ball pretty sooner. 300 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 2: He's just gonna start giving up on routes. 301 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, dude. 302 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 2: And if you keep everybody together, you almost gotta you 303 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 2: gotta go try and find another quarterback. 304 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 4: Run, you gotta find a quarterback. You got Fields, Yeah, no, 305 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 4: you gotta go get a quarterback. 306 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 2: But if you're wanting to be this team that gets 307 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 2: over the hump of winning one playoff game over winning 308 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 2: a playoff game, quarterbacks, Yeah, but Fields could do it. 309 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 4: That's what That's what Will is essentially saying, is like, yeah, 310 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 4: you had a ten one season. That's great you look 311 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 4: at it on paper, but then you put since twenty sixteen, 312 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 4: you have them limping into the playoffs. So Wilson starts 313 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 4: off strong and then all of a sudden putters out. 314 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 4: You know, it hurts. 315 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 2: When Russ came in, he was making that decision correct 316 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 2: for several games. 317 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a public apology in the locker room 318 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 4: from me because I thought Russell was terrible, and I 319 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 4: thought he was done and he was playing a lot better. 320 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 4: Turns out I was right. It turns out I was 321 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 4: right all along. You Arthur Smith. 322 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 7: Low key though Key should go to the past. He's not. 323 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 6: He's not on a very good run. The offense was 324 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 6: not good with the Falcons. That wasn't good at the Steelers. 325 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 4: Had success with Rabel Tannehill. 326 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder who Rabe's gonna bring in his OC. 327 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 2: Maybe Josh McDaniels, that's what I saw. You see that report. 328 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 2: I think that's a no no. You stay away from 329 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 2: that for sure, Arthur Smith, because you know Rabe usually 330 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 2: brings in like guys, he's super close. 331 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 4: Here's the thing that I don't like that coaches do 332 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 4: hiring their friends. I do not like that. I think 333 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 4: it is a It is a miss and it gets people. Yeah, 334 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 4: it gets people fired. It gets guys fired. Whether the 335 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 4: GM you hire the head coach as your friend or 336 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:11,599 Speaker 4: you're a head coach hiring your staff. It's like, just 337 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 4: pick the best guy for the job. Pick the best 338 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 4: guy for the job who has the same core values 339 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 4: as you do. When you're establishing a culture of a 340 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 4: football team, move on after that. 341 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: Be okay. 342 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 4: It's okay to say to your buddy. Listen, Garrett, I 343 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 4: love you to death. You're not gonna be my OC. 344 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I know you think you're you should. 345 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 2: Be able to Todd Downy, Todd. 346 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 4: Downing, and and the thing is is, yeah, you bring 347 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 4: up Todd. It sucks sitting here being like publicly like, yeah, 348 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 4: that wasn't the move. It wasn't a move. I love Todd. 349 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 4: I thought he was a great guy in the locker room, 350 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 4: great guy to hang out with, like him as an individual. 351 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 4: Was not the move at the OC. It just is 352 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 4: what it is. Does Braves have any overlap with Bobby 353 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 4: Slowick in Houston where he could snag him over, you. 354 00:14:51,400 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 2: Know, because slow it came from the Niners with with Raheem. 355 00:14:56,080 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 4: Or the Patriots Tree Patriots Tree is. 356 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 2: Morrison. 357 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 4: I mean, all right, you brought up Picking having his 358 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 4: postgame presser about not being optimistic. You see a J. 359 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 4: Brown reading no post game he had one catch, he 360 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 4: had one catch. After the game, he was livid they 361 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 4: win a playoff game. He was livid. I'm not talking. 362 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 2: I saw him reading, but then I saw him talking 363 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 2: about reading, and like. 364 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 4: Right, you haven't tweeted about it. He's he basically the 365 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 4: beat reporters. The reporters came up after the game and 366 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 4: he's like, I'm not talking today. I got nothing to say, 367 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 4: and then like got his staying smile on his face. 368 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 4: But you know, Aj, it was like an AJ like 369 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 4: I'm smiling at you, but really have a few me inside. 370 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 4: I'm just trying to get away from this so I 371 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 4: don't blow up type of situation. 372 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 2: Well, I saw when I saw the book. When I 373 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 2: saw the book stuff, I was laughing out loud. 374 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: Bro. 375 00:15:54,360 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, the book thing is funny. But he has had 376 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 4: the book open in the middle though, which is nice. 377 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's trying to get his head right, like he 378 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 2: did only have one catch. Maybe he's like, let me 379 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 2: just and they were let me read my favorite Yeah, 380 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 2: let me read my favorite paragraph so I can calm 381 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 2: the fuck down. 382 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 4: There were multiple like omaha routes, quick out routes on 383 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 4: several plays where it went to DeVante Smith and he 384 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 4: was it was like, you know, a contested catch that 385 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 4: Smith would come down with, but Aj'd be over there 386 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 4: and he'd have like five six yards of cushion where 387 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 4: there'd be some yak. 388 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw a couple where he's got these hitch routes. 389 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 2: He's getting some separation at the top of the route. 390 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 2: You see a couple times where they're going to Davante 391 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 2: when aj just on his you know, special move slant 392 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 2: route where he'll just take it to the house and 393 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 2: if you throw it to him and. 394 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 4: Stick it on the Eagles to the selflessness of Saquon 395 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 4: Barkley at the end of the game, games already essentially 396 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 4: in hand, there's a minute six left, like you score, 397 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 4: it really doesn't matter. And he had so much open 398 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 4: field to run, so much open field to get like legit, 399 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 4: forty more yards and still could have slipped, Yeah, but 400 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 4: decided to just slide it down and the game. Save 401 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 4: the legs. Get a big one coming up next week. 402 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, who do they? Obviously depends on tonight with the 403 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 2: Vikings and the Rams, But as of right now, who 404 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 2: are they looking to play? 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That game is going to be the game to watch? 445 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 4: Which game Ravens Bills? 446 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, man, that game is gonna be so cooking 447 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:07,479 Speaker 2: They're cooking. 448 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, do we go? 449 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 2: Do we talk about the I mean, the only fun 450 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 2: game to watch this weekend was The Commander's Buck. 451 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 4: I want to get your opinion that, being a former commander, 452 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 4: former redskin. 453 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 2: I'm fired up for him. 454 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm fired up for him. You think the road, 455 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 4: do you think that they can make a little run here? 456 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 2: I mean, objectively I feel like or subjectively I feel 457 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 2: like it's the end of the road, like you're going 458 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 2: to Detroit. 459 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 4: Detroit is a monster, man powerhouse. 460 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 2: Detroit is a monster. But if you're the Commanders, like 461 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 2: you're in the tournament, who fucking knows. Jane Daniels been 462 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 2: playing his ass on so JP. This dude and a 463 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 2: rookie Like, you're right, this dude operates at a such 464 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 2: a high level. It's so fun to watch. And I 465 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 2: know this city is just so fired up right now. Dude, 466 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 2: you have a lot to look forward to in the future, 467 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 2: whether or not this is at the end of the 468 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 2: road this week, because I did, I thought the Bucks 469 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 2: would probably beat them. But yeah, fired up for the Commanders. 470 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 4: You and watching him run around like he's he is 471 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 4: such an awareness of the defenders around him that he 472 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 4: reminds you a lot of Lamar Jackson when he's scrambling. Yeah, 473 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 4: and he gets those three four yards and then just 474 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 4: hits the ground real quick, pops back up like he's 475 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 4: got a poised confidence about him. Because you see these 476 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 4: running quarterbacks, the Redskins in recent history. You have these 477 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 4: like really like insane, major highlight running quarterbacks, and then 478 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 4: injuries start happening. It becomes a massive issue. With this kid. 479 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 4: He's got that Lamar Jackson feel where it's like, yeah, 480 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 4: he can run, he can throw it too, and he 481 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 4: seems like a guy that knows how to stay healthy. 482 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 4: No said to keep the legs right, knows that to 483 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 4: getting those weird entanglements where his bodies and you know, 484 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 4: doing a whole bunch of oregony type Yeah, popped on 485 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 4: the sideline. 486 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 2: Yay, Yeah that was nuts. 487 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 4: And if you're the offensive lineman, I tweeted this out 488 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 4: like that hits not bad, Like that's just a good 489 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 4: old fashioned highlight NFL hit, Like you're gonna put that 490 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 4: in the promo next year going into Week one. But 491 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 4: as an offensive lignement of the commanders, you've got to 492 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 4: start belly bumping or chest but yeah, you start barking 493 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 4: a little bit, get up your boy's face, start going 494 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 4: little know, a little bit, huh. 495 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 2: In that third and short where ninety four had him 496 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 2: in the backfield and he just hits with it. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, 497 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 2: hits with that stif arm and gets the first down towl. 498 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, the whole time chasing him downstairs like bro drop it, the. 499 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 4: Bro drop it. 500 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, did anybody know what happened to Levante at 501 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 2: the end of the game. I saw he got rolled 502 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 2: up on I don't I don't think I saw any 503 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 2: reports on it yet. You know what, I'm sitting there. 504 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 2: It's like I'm Public Commanders, That's who I played for. 505 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 2: But I'm thinking, like Levante, I know, I don't know 506 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 2: how much longer he's gonna play, Like this could have 507 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 2: been his life. That could have been his last game. 508 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 2: Yesterday could have been his last game if he if 509 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 2: he retireded you cry, do what ran? 510 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 4: Which? Dude? 511 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 2: Bro, I'm sitting there. I'm sitting there and I'm telling 512 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 2: charl I'm like, sweetheart, Like this dude was drafting the 513 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 2: league a year before me. He started and played like 514 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 2: a pro bo esque level every year of his career. 515 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 2: Like this dude's thirty five years old. 516 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: I think they said he's like thirty four to thirty five. 517 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 2: It's nuts, man, and he's had such an incredible career. 518 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 2: And to be at one place the entire time when 519 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 2: they were drafting a guy, they talk about the core values, 520 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 2: they put it together. Who's the player that it embodies. 521 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 2: It's Levante, David. He said, such a run many, which 522 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 2: is funny. I actually just put. 523 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 7: That together, but I was on Twitter. 524 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 2: People forget Yeah, bro I broke my foot. I broke 525 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 2: my foot on a Oh. 526 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: That was you. 527 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I broke my fan. 528 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 4: I love how you guys are coming to it. I'm 529 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 4: still like two steps behind on that, like, oh shit, 530 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 4: who got hurt? 531 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I broke my foot on a Thursday or 532 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 2: Friday walked through before the season opener, and it was 533 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 2: a walk through like we had our helmets. Are like 534 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 2: a jog through, like an up tempo, YadA YadA. I 535 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 2: break on this stick route in my foot, I feel 536 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 2: like just blows up, like somebody takes a shotgun to it, 537 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 2: and I go down. And Levante starts that weekend, has 538 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 2: like thirteen tackles, murder somebody over the middle of the field, 539 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 2: and I come back like six or seven eight. However, 540 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 2: long later, it was like for Texas and job was 541 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 2: nowhere to be job was nowhere to be talked about 542 00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 2: it at that point anymore, you kind of knew the 543 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 2: writing on the wall. But yeah, Levante just comes on 544 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 2: the scene because he came from Juco that year. He 545 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 2: was a Juco kid out of one. 546 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, what did he start off as a safety. 547 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 2: Uh, he was like a tweiner, Like he's like a 548 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 2: dime cat playing dime and he came in and the 549 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 2: and the depth chart went like myself, Sean Fisher, Sean 550 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 2: Fisher breaks his leg in training camp, and uh, yeah, 551 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 2: Blake Lawrence, Sean Fisher breaks his leg in training camp. 552 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 2: I break my foot. Levante is on the second field, 553 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 2: operating with the threes throughout training camp and then has 554 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 2: to get thrust it into being a starter and then 555 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 2: the rest is history. He's going off that entire year. 556 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 2: He's he's top five old time tackle leaders the in 557 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 2: Nebraska history in two years, playing two years. 558 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:42,959 Speaker 4: Twenty seven tackles against Michigan. 559 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 2: He might seem obvious. 560 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 7: Without will Compton, there is no Levonte will Compton. 561 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 2: There is no Levonte David once a. 562 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 4: Uh, it all shout out to shut somehow. 563 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 2: I thought you were like Charling. 564 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 7: Said, I wasn't. 565 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 6: I was literally scrolling on Twitter to find out the injury, 566 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 6: and somebody tweeted out man for any like low rank 567 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 6: recruit out there. Remember, nobody even knew Levonte David. It 568 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 6: took an injury for him to get in at Nebraska. 569 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's a it's a such an awesome story 570 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 2: like his. He's such a good dude. He's such a 571 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 2: good soul. He's kind of like an ed reed do wor. 572 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 2: He's just all football. He's undersized, know how to slip 573 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 2: every knows how to slip every block. He's played in 574 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 2: the middle of the defense his entire career, not as 575 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 2: like a safety or anything else, but as an undersized 576 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 2: backer and has all the same, arguably better stats than 577 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 2: like the Bobby Wagner's, the Luke Keekleys, because that was 578 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 2: the same type of class, Like that was the same 579 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 2: type of generation. 580 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 4: Talk about Bobby Wagner the first two series of that 581 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 4: game against Washington, I'm sorry against the Bucks. A menace, Yeah, 582 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 4: a menace. You see that when he blits up the 583 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 4: middle and hit that running back so hard he actually 584 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 4: just missed Baker Mayfield. Yeah, like that's fucking nuts. 585 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 2: Bobby Wagon too. You watch him, like when you're watching 586 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 2: him out on the field, like you're like, that's a 587 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 2: fucking middle line, Like that's a grown ass man. 588 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 589 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 2: Talk about like arms, his hands are like down to 590 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 2: his past. His arms are just looked oil and oiled 591 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 2: and glossy. 592 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 7: Baker put that head down on him though. 593 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, he did give him a little shoulders that. Yeah, 594 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 4: that dude, he he's got that look of a linebacker 595 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 4: and the cat too with them traps. 596 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 2: Yeah he got that. 597 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 4: He's got that traps that Mike Tyson no neck vibe, dude, 598 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 4: head sits a little low, yeah, in a little bit, 599 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 4: sits there in the off season, just bangs into a wall. 600 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 4: So he shrinks into the brades just to touch. Yeah. 601 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 2: Two, it's like, uh, bucks had their chances when Baker 602 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 2: fumbles that ball late in the game, Bobby Wager picks 603 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 2: it up and they're right there in scoring position, and 604 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 2: then when they have that seems like a complex you 605 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 2: can you can, uh you can talk about this tailor. 606 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 2: But there was a moment to where it was like 607 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 2: third and inches and they're doing a hard count and 608 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 2: then he's like let it roll, let it roller. He 609 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 2: just says we're good, We're good, and then turbo. But 610 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 2: it seemed like a dummy turbo because he goes but 611 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 2: in the center, the young center snaps it on the 612 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 2: loud one. But it seemed like it was a dummy 613 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 2: turbo because nobody else went but everybody just killed him. 614 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 2: They tackled Bucky Irving, which Bucky Irvy almost breaks every 615 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 2: tackle in the backfield to get the first down. But 616 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 2: that was like a third inches that they needed. They 617 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 2: had to settle for a field goal instead of like 618 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 2: going in for a touchdown. But it seemed like that 619 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 2: was a very complicated hard count turbo dummy, turbo, stick 620 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 2: with the you know, stick with the run whatever play. 621 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 2: Like they had a double call going yeah. 622 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 4: Game, it's like a late is late in the game, 623 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 4: fourth quarter. Yeah, I mean they're every every offense has 624 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 4: a play call, whether it's freeze, frost frosty like something 625 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 4: like that. Like there's always some sort of code word 626 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 4: where it's like we're gonna lamp in a formation, then 627 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, we're gonna do a full cadence. 628 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 4: Then the tight end's gonna come off, he's gonna go 629 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 4: into a motion. We're gonna get a couple more huts, 630 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 4: then the guy's gonna back off, get into the f 631 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 4: and like they're in an I formation and then you know, 632 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 4: hut hut hut hut. Uh. If you're doing that many 633 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 4: cadences and you have a young center, I don't know 634 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 4: about that. 635 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 2: I personally see it seems like like again, you know, 636 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 2: it's like they had a double call. We're gonna do 637 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 2: a hard count. Then I'm gonna let you know if 638 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 2: the play still on or we're gonna check it or 639 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 2: alert it or do something else. Then you gotta remember 640 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 2: that you're on a dummy Turbo. But Turbo. You're listening 641 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 2: to Turbo all year long, like as an offensive lineman. Yeah, 642 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 2: you're just so used to such second nature. 643 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, Turbo unless it's called in the huddle like a 644 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 4: Turbo two, which would be in the second hud of 645 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 4: after turbo. If you hear turbo is essentially the number one, right, 646 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 4: like your ears perk up, knowing, okay, the snap is 647 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 4: the next sound is going to be the snap. It's 648 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 4: like it's it's making it for me personally if I like, 649 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 4: if I'm going to a third and one situation. And 650 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 4: this is also a lot of it's predicated on the 651 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 4: defense and how they if they like to shift if 652 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 4: it what would Abell call it when you guys would 653 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 4: all start a little bit wider and then you shift 654 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 4: down something like that. 655 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was it was something like that, But that. 656 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 4: Was that was like a twenty twelve film from the 657 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 4: Patriots field goal Field. I think it was against the 658 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 4: Bucks too. I think it was against the Bucks, but 659 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,719 Speaker 4: just depending on what people do one third and one, 660 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 4: and if it's a team that usually stays stationary and 661 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 4: you know they're gonna bring like an Ammo blitz or 662 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 4: two up the middle or something like that, I personally 663 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 4: like a like a it's called a fast break. You 664 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 4: get out of the huddle, you get set first noise 665 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 4: you hear, you're going the first noise. The ball is 666 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 4: getting snapped because you're catching the defense off guard. 667 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 2: It's either you want. 668 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 4: To go real late or real early. And those key 669 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 4: like gotta have it like short yard of situations that way, 670 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 4: it's like you're just trying to find whatever you can't 671 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 4: get up her hand because it's grown man fucking football 672 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 4: at that point. Yeah, And to be honest with you, boys, 673 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 4: a lot of times I wasn't the growness of the 674 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 4: men when I was going against the boy in front 675 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 4: of me. So I want a little bit of I 676 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 4: give me a little whatever little advantage I can take. 677 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 4: Give me a snap count that can help the boy 678 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 4: out a little bit. 679 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously that's a snap but they get an off 680 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 2: size penalty, it's gonna be a first down. That was 681 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 2: when they were down like twenty twenty to seventeen. They 682 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 2: ultimately had to settle for a field goal and make 683 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 2: it twenty twenty. 684 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 7: And banking in the field goal anyways to win is crazy. 685 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 2: Nuts bro a doink win. Because when it started going over, 686 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, I. 687 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,479 Speaker 7: Thought he was gonna miss because he kept doing this 688 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 7: with his hair. 689 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: I say, he's missing like bad. 690 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 8: And there's like his takes and so like he's like 691 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 8: doing that because he's like gotta get set and get 692 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 8: ready and. 693 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: There's another. 694 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 8: Year and also cleats, he's retying his cleats like over 695 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 8: and over. So I guess he has these OCD tickes. 696 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 8: And so imagine being a kicker with OCD and in 697 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 8: the game winning field goal. 698 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 4: And you're just like fuck fuck like one two three, yeah, 699 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 4: especially because there are situations where like, what was it hurricane, 700 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 4: Like there's a there's this hurricane field goal. It's like 701 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 4: eighteen seconds on the clock, third down, no timeouts, you're 702 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 4: in field goal range. You've got to go kicker right away. 703 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 4: And there's this whole program of how to get guys 704 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 4: off the field, how to get guys on the field, 705 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 4: and I get the kickers as fast as possible. If 706 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 4: you're an OCD guy, that you have to do four 707 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 4: hand you two shoot, Like, yeah, you gotta go balld. 708 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 2: Dude. If I'm a kicker, I almost want more of 709 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 2: the hurricane, Like you're rushing to get on the Yeah, 710 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 2: you don't think about you you gotta think about it. Like, 711 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 2: but when the offense is trying to methodically put it 712 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 2: on the spot you're at and it's kind of like 713 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 2: that thirty forty year field goal, I'm probably thinking to myself, 714 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 2: these boys think this is just a gimme. I'm over 715 00:29:58,800 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 2: here nervous this year. 716 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, that shit when in Texas versus Asu, when 717 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 4: Start walked up to his boy the kicker and like 718 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 4: get him love. If I'm a kicker in that situation, 719 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 4: it's like, leave me the fuck alone. Yeah, like pretend 720 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 4: like I just don't even exist on this world for 721 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 4: a little bit and all that remember, like not remember 722 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 4: like freezing kickers like that would be the fucking worst. Yeah. 723 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 4: Calling a time out at the end of the game 724 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 4: and it goes right up the middle two and you're 725 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 4: just like, oh my fucking god, dude, if I could 726 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 4: just get that one again, kickers Man snipers more time 727 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 4: to think about it. Shadow, Ryan suck up, Dude did 728 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 4: a great for him. Shout out, Ryan suck Up. Just 729 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 4: a dog out there. 730 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 2: How about the fucking Texans? 731 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean dog. 732 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 2: Dog walking the Chargers. Chargers beat their ass for a 733 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 2: quarter and a half, and we're sitting there and it's 734 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 2: six to nothing. It's like this game should be some 735 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 2: one of those feelings, like as a player, it should 736 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 2: be fourteen or nothing right now. Like if you're the Charger, 737 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 2: you're like, hey, fellas, like we got to get seven 738 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 2: or because they're still in And then if you're the Texans, 739 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 2: you're getting destroyed. The ball's not bouncing your way either, 740 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 2: Like they had a I forget what it was, but 741 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 2: it just didn't go their way. But you're sitting there, 742 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 2: it's like, hey, fel's like it's only six to nothing. 743 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 2: Like as bad as we've played, like we're still in 744 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 2: this game, it's sure enough. Thirty two unanswered points later, 745 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 2: the Texas defense was eating. 746 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 4: Broke, eating Will Anderson, going off. 747 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 2: Daniel Hunter, Autrey, Will, Will and. 748 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 4: Audrey had a couple plays in a row Brother where 749 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 4: it's like, holy shit. 750 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 2: Alsha, here was tattooing folks. Then you got Stingley that's 751 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 2: making plays. I don't know why they're tried. They were 752 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 2: trying Stingley all game. 753 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 4: Yeah that game that hey, Herbert, I know that game 754 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 4: reminded me a lot of Packers Eagles where it's like 755 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 4: Houston was taking advantage of the Chargers bad football, and 756 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 4: Eagles were taking advantage of the Packers bad football. The Houston, 757 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 4: Houston took more advantage than the Eagles did. But it's like, yeah, 758 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,479 Speaker 4: Herbert had a bad day. He had a rough day. 759 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 4: It seemed like the play calling was a little all 760 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 4: over the place. It just seemed like they couldn't get 761 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 4: settled and like grounded in the moment of you know 762 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 4: where they need to be, which is weird because you 763 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 4: think Harball culture guy, he's gonna have his guys ready 764 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 4: to go. But then there's the old Herbert. He loves 765 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 4: a choking the playoffs. 766 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 6: Dirty bubble got hard. They know he's a SpongeBob fan. Yeah, 767 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 6: and they had his quote, you're on the sideline. You 768 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 6: can't call murmury man barnacle boy. He's he was captured 769 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 6: he was. 770 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 2: Got Were you watching that? 771 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: Uh? 772 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 2: Were you watching that? 773 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:16,959 Speaker 3: Uh? 774 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 2: What am I saying? Yeah? 775 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? 776 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 2: Were you watching the broadcast in Nickelodeon. Yeah, they had 777 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 2: SpongeBob up there like commentating with Pat pf Man Yeah, 778 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 2: pf Manatee and Big Catfish. Then you had like Lebron 779 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 2: and Kevin Hart. I forget what their their fish for Lebron, Yeah, Lebron, 780 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 2: James Dog. It was. 781 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 4: I feel bad for the Chargers, but the Texans man, 782 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 4: I've been good for them. 783 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 2: Do they make it? Do they make it interesting? In 784 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 2: Kansas City? They're dangerous, they could, They're dangerous. 785 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 4: Hard to be hard to beat a team twice. It 786 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 4: is hard to beat a team twice. She's got to 787 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 4: get to Pat when they got the tools to get there, 788 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:53,719 Speaker 4: they got to Chargers. 789 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 2: So the playoff. Willie Parlay was dead in the first game, 790 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 2: just the first gone, Hey, you're forty something thousand people riding. 791 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 2: Your response to that too, of the captain from Titanic 792 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 2: walking in going down the ship maybe the best response 793 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 2: he could possibly have to it. 794 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: What do we go? 795 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 4: He's just so captain, Captain, sir, your life Jackets said, 796 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 4: just keep swapping. 797 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Lebron's didn't hit either. Daves was cooking there for 798 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 2: a second. But Cortland Sutton, they've hit four out of 799 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 2: five of his legs. Courtland Sutton didn't score for the Broncos. 800 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, the I don't think the Texans can do against 801 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 4: the Chiefs. I think I think we're gona see Chiefs 802 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 4: in Nancy. 803 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 2: Championship at least. 804 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, and we can start talking about you. I gotta 805 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 4: see Ravens bills and how those games operate. I think 806 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 4: it could be one sided. 807 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 2: That Dame could be bum bum liked. Obviously, being like 808 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 2: a Chief stater, I'm bummed out that the Chiefs get 809 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 2: just the winner of that game versus having to play 810 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 2: both of them. 811 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, because you kind of one. 812 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 2: I mean, man, if the Raven's could have just lost 813 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 2: one more game and maybe they slip down a seat 814 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 2: to where they're the ones going to Kansas City. 815 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 4: I saw a funny clip of you ever see like 816 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 4: the dog who hits the basketball on the stairs and 817 00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 4: it kind of bounces in the basket of who's gonna 818 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 4: win the players? Yeah, using that whether there was one 819 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 4: where a guy had a marble and it was in 820 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 4: between like these two lines and he would roll it 821 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 4: and these two dominoes were different colors, and it was 822 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 4: based on the teams whicheveryone fell was gonna be the loser. 823 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 4: And every time the Chiefs one died, he like throw 824 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 4: a flag at it and put them back up. It 825 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 4: is It's crazy, man, It's crazy. But yeah, I think 826 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 4: we should get into our podcast. Yeah, I did want 827 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 4: to talk a little college football. See if the Matthews 828 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 4: brothers want to do. 829 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 2: We can uh, yeah, we can either do when they're on, 830 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 2: we can do it after, but we Clay Matthews, call Matthews, 831 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 2: the Matthews brothers. They're in the shop right now. So 832 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 2: we're gonna go ahead and hit that interview. If we 833 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 2: do any more intro talk you guys who'll obviously recorded 834 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 2: after that podcast, but it'll be in right after this ad. Read. Yeah, 835 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 2: let's get the boys in. 836 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 4: Let's get the boys. 837 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 2: Get the boys in right after this ad. 838 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 4: NFL playoffs. 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You get anything at 857 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:39,359 Speaker 4: that charity event? 858 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: Dude? 859 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's such a fun time to go there, but 860 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 4: it's like we're really just there to like be there 861 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 4: and be with every body to that. 862 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 9: Yeah. 863 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 4: There, we had a sore been to Suppers a. 864 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 9: Couple of times and. 865 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 2: All right, we get the Matthews brothers. 866 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 4: Do I het your fucking assistant, and it was She's like, 867 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 4: all right, you need to start doing it again. It 868 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 4: was bad. It was bad. 869 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 5: What's the serious question, what's what is the downside to 870 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 5: her addictions? 871 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 4: There are no side effects zero, It's really just you 872 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 4: feel great all the time. 873 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: I think. 874 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 4: So, nicotine is proven. It's neuroprotective, it's a stimulant. It 875 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 4: helps the multitasking. There's a lot of benefits of it. 876 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,280 Speaker 5: Do they pay you to say this. 877 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 4: No, but uh, but there are like you could elevate 878 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,879 Speaker 4: your blood pressure, shrink your veins, like not shrinker veins, 879 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 4: but like make it more difficult for blood. I don't know. 880 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 4: There's there's a couple of bad things, but I would 881 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 4: say the pros outweigh the cons. And also depends what's 882 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 4: in there too. 883 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 5: They said about cigarettes in the fifties. 884 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 4: Right, exactly, they make a man exactly nice? Did you 885 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 4: did you guys ever chew or anything like that? Dude, 886 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 4: you kind of with the jacket on and the bun on, 887 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 4: you seem like you could have a lip in. 888 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 1: The big league. You. Yeah, in there, I was, I 889 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,800 Speaker 1: was mister straight edge. You never never want to taint 890 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:07,280 Speaker 1: the body. 891 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 5: We'll talk about this, but yeah, my dad would have 892 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 5: kicked our ass if we had done any of that. 893 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 4: We could talk about it right now, Mitch, we rolling, baby, 894 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 4: we've been rolling. Well, we can cut everything. Don't you worry. 895 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 4: Don't you worry one bit. Obviously, Hey, you're in a 896 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 4: safe space, not a mistake. We're all good. But you 897 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 4: said your dad would have kicked your ass if you 898 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 4: were taking doing anything extra. Was it like a booze 899 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 4: or was it like, hey, we get past booze. Now 900 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 4: we got a problem. 901 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,479 Speaker 1: Now. We were just from a family that was very 902 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: you know, our parents didn't drink didn't even drink wine. Naturally, 903 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: smoking is not good for you, and so I mean 904 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 1: it just it was just expected and coming from you know, 905 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 1: obviously father playing in the NFL. I mean, it was 906 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: common sense and so, I mean it was just a given. 907 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 1: You know. It wasn't like you we were sneaking around 908 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 1: and doing anything like that. But yeah, he probably would 909 00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: have kicked our ass. 910 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,760 Speaker 2: I think Clay Saint and said, you speak for yourself. 911 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: Yes, wowkright, go for it. 912 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 2: No, I don't think are the rebel of the family. 913 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 1: Oh me, No, No, no, Kyle, Kyle. 914 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 5: I think it's safe to say that which is which 915 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,839 Speaker 5: is interesting what the dynamic within the family is now 916 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 5: in my role within the family. But to your question, 917 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 5: and to piggyback on what Clay said, I don't know 918 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 5: if it's a conversation my dad ever had with us, like, hey, 919 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 5: if you do these things like you know, you're in 920 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 5: big trouble. I think it's I think it's a combination 921 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 5: of to Clay's point, knowing that they weren't good for you. 922 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 5: My parents didn't do it so somewhat as a kid, 923 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 5: not often, but there's correlation, like your parents behavior and 924 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 5: modeling it. But I think also if I had to 925 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 5: look back, I don't know if I've ever done this 926 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 5: like in this the way I will now is like 927 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 5: and tell me if I'm right. We wanted to as boys, 928 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 5: we wanted to be our dad when we grew up. 929 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 5: My dad is like a superhero. You know, he's this 930 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 5: nineteen year NFL star, like good looking, jacked, great person, 931 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 5: and it still is. But like at the time, you know, 932 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 5: he's thirty, thirty five, forty and just and he didn't 933 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 5: do any of those things. And so subconsciously, I'm sure 934 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 5: there was part of that where it's like, well, if 935 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 5: he doesn't do it, we shouldn't do it either, if 936 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 5: we want to be that when we grow up again. 937 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 5: I don't know if that if that's like a specific 938 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 5: conversation he had with us, I can't remember that. You 939 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 5: just you just didn't do it, right. 940 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 2: Do you think the standard is the standard? 941 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: Yeah? 942 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's all you guys kind of knew. 943 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. 944 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 4: When you you guys now have kids, do you find 945 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 4: it like you're gonna want to have those conversations say hey, 946 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 4: we don't do these things or just kind of lead 947 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 4: by lead by example the way your father did. Because 948 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,919 Speaker 4: I feel like it's much easier to say, hey, don't 949 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 4: do these things. And obviously you don't want you don't 950 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 4: want to do those things yourself either, but to have 951 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 4: be like it's just known can be tough. It seems 952 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 4: like you guys got the message loud and clear. But 953 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,320 Speaker 4: for having kids, have you guys approach it any differently? 954 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 5: Well? Yeah, my kids are a little older, and I 955 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 5: don't know if you're having those conversations with kids yet, 956 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 5: But like my oldest is fourteen. I got four kids, 957 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 5: my son Brody fourteen, daughters Kylie and Dixie who are eleven, 958 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 5: and seven, and then I got three year old son Murph, 959 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 5: and so Brody, I just I take kind of the 960 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 5: Trump tack. I Trump told his kids like no drugs, 961 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 5: no alcohol, you know, no tobacco, And I just say, 962 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 5: those are my rules. And I'm you know, I'd like 963 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 5: to think of myself as a principal father. You know, 964 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:12,919 Speaker 5: I don't have a lot of rules, but the rules 965 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 5: I have, I feel confident to say, my kids know 966 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 5: where the line is and so those are those are 967 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 5: some of my very few rules in the house. And 968 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,840 Speaker 5: so the answer to your question, I'm not I'm not 969 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 5: making the assumption our parents probably made with us and 970 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 5: luckily it turned out okay. But I'm having those conversations 971 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:29,760 Speaker 5: with my children. 972 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure I'm gonna have to have them as well. 973 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 1: But my youngest, my youngest is Colton, who's five. My 974 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 1: daughter just turned nine, Maddie, and my oldest, Clay, the 975 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,359 Speaker 1: fourth is nine, will be or she's my daughter's eight, 976 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 1: my son's nine, he'll be ten. It's like a Crimarti 977 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: moment right here. But Colton's great at getting Daddy the 978 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,919 Speaker 1: yellow can in the in the mini fridge, which is uh, 979 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,439 Speaker 1: you know, the pills there, so, but we'll have those 980 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 1: conversations new lat Can for the I PA. But we'll 981 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 1: we'll have those conversations later. 982 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. 983 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,320 Speaker 4: Dude, what when you were having being in the third, 984 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 4: when you were having a kid before you knew did 985 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 4: you want to did you want a boy? Did you 986 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:11,800 Speaker 4: want that fourth? 987 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,479 Speaker 1: I didn't care if it was a boy or girl 988 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 1: at the time. And then when we had him at 989 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: a way, yeah, it was just kind of a given. 990 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I was like, I kind of got to 991 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,320 Speaker 1: keep this going. But I did kind of waiver a 992 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 1: little bit, thinking like I don't want to name him 993 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: the fourth, Like we're getting into English royalty over here. 994 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 1: That shit's still fourth. It is. But it's funny because 995 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: I had through hearsay, I think my mom had said, 996 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 1: my Dad's like, I don't want the I don't want 997 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 1: the name to go away, and since obviously he was junior, 998 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 1: so I'm like, all right, we got to name the fourth. 999 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: But that was tricky out in Green Bay because it's 1000 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 1: not a lot of people named Clay out there, and 1001 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 1: they treat you, you know, the celebrity out there is unbelievable. 1002 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 1: You don't have a lot of freedom, so we had to. 1003 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 1: We called him Bubba, that was our nickname. And he's 1004 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: still between the family, he goes by Bubba, and now 1005 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 1: that we're out and then we're in the south now, 1006 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: so Bubba actually fits in. But he finally goes by 1007 00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 1: Clay at school now because nobody cares about me anymore. Yeah. 1008 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 5: Always, I always, I always think it's interesting. I'm the 1009 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 5: oldest boy and my dad didn't give me that name, 1010 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 5: And I swear to God, if he hadn't em me Clay, 1011 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 5: I'd be six four, two hundred and fifty pounds. I'd 1012 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 5: be sitting in an office somewhere typing out TPS report. 1013 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, along the way, did you ever did you 1014 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,879 Speaker 2: ever think about that, like feel some type of way 1015 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 2: along the way like you were or your dad's junior, 1016 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,360 Speaker 2: and then ultimately Clay becomes a third, like I'm the 1017 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 2: third as well, William orl the third, and I'm the oldest. 1018 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 2: So I would I never had to think of. 1019 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say, I don't know. I've never you know, 1020 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 5: I know a lot of juniors and thirds, maybe not 1021 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 5: as much for it, they're always the first. I've I 1022 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 5: haven't thought about it other than like the joke like 1023 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 5: I'm I've convinced myself that if I got the name 1024 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 5: like just the way that Dyna, I'd be like, you know, 1025 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,439 Speaker 5: I'd be an ex NFL guy with a man bun, 1026 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 5: but like you can only get away and if he 1027 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 5: plays sports ory, you're a Yogans. 1028 00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 1: I used to live in Van Eye, so I can 1029 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 1: go a different out with that man. But uh no, 1030 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,759 Speaker 1: So the reason why I was named is because I 1031 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,400 Speaker 1: guess uh ran out of names. Well no, from what 1032 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 1: I've heard, and maybe my parents are lying to me, 1033 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,759 Speaker 1: is that when they had the the ultrasound back in 1034 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: the day, they weren't that good, so they thought I 1035 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 1: was a girl before I was born came out, I 1036 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 1: was a boy, and I guess you gotta leave. 1037 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 5: Why do they think you were a girl? 1038 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 1: Though, Man, it's medicine, it's all good. They couldn't. I 1039 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 1: couldn't see the easiest lay, but you have ever been 1040 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 1: so yeah, So I guess my grandfather had called my 1041 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 1: father and my mom and said, you know, want you 1042 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 1: his name after me and my brother who's in between 1043 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: Kyle and I here, his middle name is Clay because 1044 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 1: that was going to be the you know, continuation of 1045 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 1: that Clay name, and so now my name, my middle 1046 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 1: name is actually Clay as well. It's William Clay Matthews. 1047 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 1: So oh, let's go. 1048 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 4: Taylor Curtis. 1049 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 2: One day I get a boy, so I can carry 1050 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 2: on the on the name if when you're a junior, 1051 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 2: it's so easy. 1052 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 4: I feel like, when you get to the third, the 1053 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 4: fourth to fifth, you tell my royalty. I think that's awesome. 1054 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,400 Speaker 4: But being a junior is not the best. And you 1055 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,839 Speaker 4: had to have a nice name to William Earl's nice. 1056 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,840 Speaker 4: William Clay is great. Taylor Curtis. I don't want to 1057 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 4: pass that down. I don't want to give that. I 1058 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 4: don't want to give that bait ass name to my kids. 1059 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:17,880 Speaker 4: Give him something cool. 1060 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 5: But now I got two girls. 1061 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,360 Speaker 4: Dude, I'm spitting. There's a whole there's a there's a 1062 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 4: war going on this cold. We had a team meeting 1063 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 4: last week and at the team meeting turned into JP 1064 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:33,839 Speaker 4: and a couple of guys being like, just have a third, 1065 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,840 Speaker 4: just have a third. So I'm obviously gonna been the knee. Like, 1066 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 4: I don't know how your household works. I don't run 1067 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,759 Speaker 4: my show. There's nothing about my house. I'm like, yeah, 1068 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 4: I'm the man, not if you want to does not happen. 1069 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:44,879 Speaker 4: I will be having a third kid, don't tell. 1070 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,360 Speaker 2: My wife has figured out that the only reason is 1071 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 2: the nose because of him. So now we're trying to 1072 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 2: try to get. 1073 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,759 Speaker 4: That one true And tell you made me feel a 1074 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 4: little bit better because you said you got I'm here 1075 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 4: fourteen eleven, nine and three. So that big gap sits 1076 00:44:59,600 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 4: year down. 1077 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 5: Said that was a COVID Like whoops. 1078 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, like hands. 1079 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 5: My wife's always like, oh gosh, she's always like, she's 1080 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 5: always like, you had one job. You couldn't even do that, right? 1081 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 2: Did you ever? 1082 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 4: Did you ever dabble with the idea of going to 1083 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:17,800 Speaker 4: get a little surgery? 1084 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm medically retired now, yeah you're done. 1085 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 2: Yeah I'm out. 1086 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 5: I had to go red shirted out the baby making. 1087 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:25,879 Speaker 4: Game checks in the mail. 1088 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 1: One. 1089 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 5: But he was a little, you know, too little, too late. 1090 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 2: So now sometimes you play that Russian roulette. 1091 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 5: No, but but now we got the fourth. He's healthy, 1092 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,799 Speaker 5: you know, like when he turns eighteen, I'll be like, hey, 1093 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,920 Speaker 5: how you doing, Like what's your name? You know? No, 1094 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 5: Murph is like, uh, you know, we get all the 1095 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 5: kids together every almost every Saturday, and he's like the 1096 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 5: little he's like the little pet like he's he's he's fun. 1097 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 5: You know, you throw a ball and he goes and 1098 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,759 Speaker 5: gets it and then he brings it back. It's like 1099 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 5: kind of a fetch thing. 1100 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, you plus plus if you having a fourteen eleven 1101 00:45:58,280 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 4: year old, it's like you have built in babysitters. 1102 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, like no, no, not, my kids are. 1103 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 4: Okay, we're gonna find a way around this thing. 1104 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 5: But but now see so it's it's leverage, right, and 1105 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 5: so when you have, as a related to air. 1106 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 4: Well hold on with your kids. Is now I have leverage. 1107 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 4: I can use it. I'm gonna come across. 1108 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 5: No, I'm playing like with my fourteen year old. It's like, hey, 1109 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 5: when especially as as the male with the air thing, 1110 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 5: and you're like, when you got one, there's a lot 1111 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 5: of leverage on his end. Now I'm like, you know, 1112 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:29,840 Speaker 5: I got an air and a spare, Like you mess up, 1113 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 5: I got another one coming up the ranks. You know, 1114 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,760 Speaker 5: like I got a backup who's on a cheaper contract 1115 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,799 Speaker 5: and making plays like you can't sit out too many 1116 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,480 Speaker 5: games right now? You know, like it's called I hold 1117 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:44,560 Speaker 5: them accountable, right, Just know it's it's science ability availability. 1118 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right. 1119 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know how that. 1120 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 2: Is for the team you're against with the year old man? 1121 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,239 Speaker 2: What was it like growing up? So we last year 1122 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,239 Speaker 2: we had on we've had on Christan McCaffrey, and we 1123 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 2: had on his dad, Ed McCaffrey, and Christian was telling 1124 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 2: us stories how he couldn't get arm tackled growing up 1125 00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:59,839 Speaker 2: or grabbed by the jersey, how you'd have to take 1126 00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:01,920 Speaker 2: the jersey and everything else and if he'd get arm tackled, 1127 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 2: he'd get grounded. Was your How was he told it? 1128 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,480 Speaker 4: He told a story about his dad went into the 1129 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,879 Speaker 4: backyard in the woods and found an empty coke can 1130 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 4: and came to the house it was this and they 1131 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 4: got grounded for drink and soda at least. 1132 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,880 Speaker 1: Now, yeah, you you've got an interesting story because I 1133 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,279 Speaker 1: think you you put on didn't he have you put 1134 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,319 Speaker 1: on pads? And you did drills with him? Because I 1135 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,839 Speaker 1: I didn't have that experience. 1136 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, here here's I answer you a question. And then 1137 00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 5: he coached you more. But I was the oldest, so 1138 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:32,760 Speaker 5: like my understanding of the McCaffrey's which is very limited, 1139 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,400 Speaker 5: but I heard I heard that, like those stories is. 1140 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 5: My father was the total opposite. And I'll give you 1141 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 5: some examples here, like I didn't play football till ninth grade, right, 1142 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 5: and I played in all sports, but I played soccer 1143 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:47,799 Speaker 5: as a fall sport, and it just just is what 1144 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:53,320 Speaker 5: it is. He never once pushed football. We never watched 1145 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,480 Speaker 5: a single football game in our house unless my dad 1146 00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 5: was playing, and even then we may or may not 1147 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:02,239 Speaker 5: watch it depending on the broadcast schedule. Never watched a 1148 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,200 Speaker 5: college football game until I played in one. Never watched 1149 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,680 Speaker 5: an NFL game unless my dad, maybe my uncle. I 1150 00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:11,719 Speaker 5: don't even think we watched my uncle Bruce, Yeah he 1151 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:16,400 Speaker 5: was yes. So it was the total opposite. It was 1152 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,880 Speaker 5: very you know, kind of what we believe old school 1153 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 5: parenting is, like you just let kids be kids. They 1154 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 5: figured out like no involvement, nothing. When I was going down, 1155 00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 5: when I was getting ready to play football in college, 1156 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,279 Speaker 5: the only conversation my father ever had with me, and 1157 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,680 Speaker 5: you might have been different, was like, hey, uh, you 1158 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,760 Speaker 5: know you don't have to play football because I played football. 1159 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,239 Speaker 5: It was like Matthew's like emoting, which is non like yeah, yeah, 1160 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 5: yeah cool. 1161 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 2: That don't be too weird. 1162 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 5: No, we were just weird. Well, what's just happened, you know, 1163 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 5: But we were we are at a stop by. He's like, hey, uh, 1164 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:52,720 Speaker 5: you know you don't have to play football because I played. 1165 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 5: I go, yeah, yeah, Dad, I know that. He goes, Okay, 1166 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,280 Speaker 5: I just want you to know that I was whoa 1167 00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:57,719 Speaker 5: like he. 1168 00:48:58,360 --> 00:48:59,279 Speaker 2: You know, I love you, right? Yeah? 1169 00:48:59,320 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1170 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:01,319 Speaker 2: No. 1171 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 5: The only thing my dad retired when I was a 1172 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,440 Speaker 5: sophomore in high school. I mean, you think about that. 1173 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,440 Speaker 5: He played nineteen years, so like imagine your kids being 1174 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,080 Speaker 5: a sophomore in high school. When he retired, it was different. 1175 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,799 Speaker 5: And then he started coaching. Yeah, it's wild. And then 1176 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,480 Speaker 5: he started coaching me in high school and that was 1177 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 5: the only involvement. By then I had chosen to play football. 1178 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,360 Speaker 5: He coached you a lot earlier because you were younger, 1179 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,680 Speaker 5: And the only time was heading into my senior year 1180 00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,360 Speaker 5: in high school, they were moving me from like defensive 1181 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 5: back down to like kind of outside rush, and I 1182 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,799 Speaker 5: think he thought I needed to truly probably did get 1183 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,319 Speaker 5: more physical. So he put pads on me and like 1184 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,040 Speaker 5: it was like one hundred degrees in a Gore Hills, Like, 1185 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,719 Speaker 5: he put pads on me, and during the summer he'd 1186 00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:48,719 Speaker 5: make me go down and he would put pads on 1187 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,280 Speaker 5: and we'd have to do hitting drills. This is true, 1188 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 5: this is this is. 1189 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,239 Speaker 4: Why he's still playing or just recently retired, like a 1190 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,400 Speaker 4: year out of the league. He's still got it. 1191 00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 5: No, he's he's like the. 1192 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:00,839 Speaker 2: Rock grid iron games. 1193 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:05,920 Speaker 5: Yeah. Like so on one hand, he had no involvement whatsoever. 1194 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,640 Speaker 5: He was just like, look, I'll let my kids figure 1195 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 5: out who they are. If they're going to be players, 1196 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:13,279 Speaker 5: are gonna be players. If they're not, they're not. But yeah, 1197 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 5: in high school he put on helmets and shoulder pads 1198 00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:17,840 Speaker 5: and like I would have to go thump them. And 1199 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 5: I remember like, and I was not that kid who 1200 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:21,759 Speaker 5: was about like getting best, Like what am I doing 1201 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,279 Speaker 5: out here right now? Like all my friends are at 1202 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,840 Speaker 5: the beach and so you're thinking about TPS reports. Yeah 1203 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,040 Speaker 5: that would come later, Yeah, that would come later when 1204 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:33,160 Speaker 5: you know, I realized I had no options, so, you know, 1205 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 5: but that was the only thing. I don't know. Was 1206 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 5: he different with you? 1207 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,720 Speaker 1: Well, I remember him taking me to the Golds gym 1208 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,560 Speaker 1: in like sixth grade, and I was just such a bitch, 1209 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 1: like I didn't want to lift, you know, he was 1210 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,880 Speaker 1: putting the the brown paper towel over the neck machine 1211 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:50,799 Speaker 1: and I'm like, Dad, and I couldn't even do you know, 1212 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,600 Speaker 1: like a like a five on each side of the 1213 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,360 Speaker 1: you know, the bench press. I was embarrassed and I 1214 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,200 Speaker 1: didn't want to and I just want to play probably 1215 00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,360 Speaker 1: Halo at the time, and I didn't really want to, 1216 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,719 Speaker 1: and it wasn't until and my dad was like he 1217 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,799 Speaker 1: tried to. But you know, at the end of the day, 1218 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,840 Speaker 1: like Kyle said, he's like, all right, man, like you know, 1219 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,000 Speaker 1: you do you and you figure it out. 1220 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:09,399 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1221 00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,759 Speaker 1: And so my junior year I had a buddy still 1222 00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,280 Speaker 1: my best friend of this day. He ended up getting 1223 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,200 Speaker 1: drafted by the Chicago Bears and oh wait, hurt his 1224 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,000 Speaker 1: back and you know, fell out of the league. But 1225 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,160 Speaker 1: ultimately we pushed each other. And so I was also 1226 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 1: late to develop. So between my junior and senior year 1227 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 1: in high school, I went through puberty and I probably 1228 00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 1: grew like four inches and put on like forty pounds. 1229 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,719 Speaker 1: So at that time I was big for where I 1230 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,040 Speaker 1: played football, and I was I was decent, but not 1231 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,719 Speaker 1: good enough to get a college scholarship. So ultimately, like 1232 00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,680 Speaker 1: you know, as far as his uh wait. 1233 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,480 Speaker 5: What is that picture of my dad and my uncle 1234 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,680 Speaker 5: with their shirts off, go down bottom, right. I don't 1235 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,120 Speaker 5: think I've ever seen that. That's that sports. 1236 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:51,800 Speaker 4: Is win. 1237 00:51:53,320 --> 00:52:00,440 Speaker 1: You find anything, But I mean, yeah, so you know, 1238 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,880 Speaker 1: we Yeah, he kind of just let us just develop 1239 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,160 Speaker 1: into our own person. And like I said, I don't 1240 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 1: think there's a right or wrong way. Like I developed 1241 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,920 Speaker 1: a natural love for the game and appreciation for it, so, 1242 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,200 Speaker 1: you know, unlike the mcap obviously that's working well for 1243 00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,279 Speaker 1: the mccaffreys, you know. So there was really no right 1244 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,359 Speaker 1: or wrong. But that's how he parented us, and when 1245 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,879 Speaker 1: he retired, he naturally jumped into coaching me as a kid. 1246 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,680 Speaker 1: So I've had his tutelage and coaching ever since I 1247 00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,719 Speaker 1: was in I think third third grade, So you know, 1248 00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,319 Speaker 1: that's why I've had I really think getting into the 1249 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,279 Speaker 1: league as a rookie, just having immediate success was just 1250 00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,680 Speaker 1: because I grew up in that family. I knew what 1251 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,400 Speaker 1: was expected. I knew, you know, what was going to 1252 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,200 Speaker 1: come at me, money, fame, women, whatever it may be. 1253 00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:47,680 Speaker 1: So I was ready to go. 1254 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,279 Speaker 2: We interrupt this episode to bring you a rocks On. 1255 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,360 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the elephant in the room. Erectiled dysfunction 1256 00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,279 Speaker 2: one in four men eighteen years in older experience ED, 1257 00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 2: which means that you were someone close to you might 1258 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,680 Speaker 2: be experience it too. 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Visit roxon dot us that's 1270 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,400 Speaker 2: e r O x o n dot us to learn more. 1271 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:42,200 Speaker 2: Back to this episode. 1272 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,840 Speaker 4: When you talk about going not having a scholarship after 1273 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,560 Speaker 4: high school and then obviously you know your uncle, your dad, 1274 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,879 Speaker 4: like your entire family just like it's like, oh, you're 1275 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:50,440 Speaker 4: a Matthews. 1276 00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:54,560 Speaker 2: You guys ever Matthew's family Wikipedia, Yeah, exactly, you have that. 1277 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,160 Speaker 4: Is there anything going through your head of like I 1278 00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,359 Speaker 4: didn't live up to the name, or I didn't I 1279 00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,200 Speaker 4: didn't you know, exceee, I didn't meet the expectations that 1280 00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,480 Speaker 4: I'm supposed to meet. Whether it's your family putting on 1281 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,000 Speaker 4: you or you personally put it on yourself. 1282 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I never felt that at all. If I 1283 00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,640 Speaker 1: got something I think about for my you know, my 1284 00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,600 Speaker 1: son the fourth, I'm like, oh, shoot, man, you have 1285 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,200 Speaker 1: to live up these expectations. But I don't know if 1286 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:19,480 Speaker 1: that's how my dad felt. A lot of people ask me, oh, 1287 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,200 Speaker 1: you know, you're gonna play in the NFL, You're gonna 1288 00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:22,600 Speaker 1: do this. I was just kind of doing my thing, 1289 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,880 Speaker 1: and I never felt pressure from him, much like he 1290 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,359 Speaker 1: told Kyle to live up to the expectation of play 1291 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:33,120 Speaker 1: in the NFL, playing for nineteen years and accomplishing all 1292 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,360 Speaker 1: that he accomplished. So mine was just natural and gradual. 1293 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,520 Speaker 1: But I never felt that pressure. You know. The pressure 1294 00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:43,000 Speaker 1: that I felt was once I started ascending, got into 1295 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,000 Speaker 1: the NFL and wanted to maintain that standard and the name, 1296 00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:47,000 Speaker 1: like you just said. 1297 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, well I could comment on that. So I felt 1298 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,919 Speaker 5: it tremendously, like it was a it was a weight 1299 00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:55,799 Speaker 5: my whole life. I don't know if it's because I 1300 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,040 Speaker 5: was the oldest, or I just wired differently and Clay's 1301 00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,120 Speaker 5: better at tuning things out than I am. It was 1302 00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,880 Speaker 5: just you got it your whole life, and I was 1303 00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,560 Speaker 5: really we both were, but me, i'd argue even more, so, 1304 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,440 Speaker 5: really small undersize our whole life. We're always like the Runts, 1305 00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,560 Speaker 5: and so you know, and we moved around a lot, 1306 00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,600 Speaker 5: like oftentimes we moved back and forth, but all all told, 1307 00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,239 Speaker 5: we moved thirty plus times, you know, because my dad 1308 00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,280 Speaker 5: would play for the Browns. So we'd moved to Cleveland 1309 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,759 Speaker 5: in July August and we live in Cleveland until December Januy, 1310 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:24,279 Speaker 5: we moved back. 1311 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:25,680 Speaker 1: To no off season at the time. 1312 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:27,440 Speaker 2: So yeah, live in l Yeah. 1313 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,560 Speaker 5: So it was a true off season, which means like 1314 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,200 Speaker 5: you see you later see in six months. So no 1315 00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,680 Speaker 5: matter where I went, I would get comments like, man, 1316 00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,120 Speaker 5: what what happened to you? You're a Matthews, Like you 1317 00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,960 Speaker 5: must be a disappointment, Like you're why you're so undersized, 1318 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 5: like you're the run like we all were. That I 1319 00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 5: would argue, but I, again, I don't know if I'm 1320 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:46,480 Speaker 5: wired different. 1321 00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:47,560 Speaker 4: Kids and wife beaters. 1322 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:51,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so you're also the first one going through. 1323 00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,239 Speaker 5: And I was the first one going through it, and 1324 00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,160 Speaker 5: then part of it. Not to dismiss Clay's experience, because 1325 00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,759 Speaker 5: that was his experience. Like he made it, right, I mean, 1326 00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:00,680 Speaker 5: he made it and had a phenomenal career. Now that 1327 00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,040 Speaker 5: wasn't always how it looked right, you know, certainly coming 1328 00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:05,960 Speaker 5: out of high school and what he was able to 1329 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,920 Speaker 5: accomplish at as see, and the transformation physically and mentally 1330 00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:11,759 Speaker 5: in his game to be a first round pick and 1331 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,759 Speaker 5: go on to have a brilliant career. I didn't and 1332 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:18,520 Speaker 5: so very much that in my humble opinion, led to 1333 00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,719 Speaker 5: ultimately what and I'll let others define it, but like 1334 00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:27,240 Speaker 5: if I've achieved success in business, I really give credit 1335 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:30,880 Speaker 5: to that drive, that motivation was. If you look at 1336 00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,120 Speaker 5: the Matthews and again, you know, I want to be fair. 1337 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,000 Speaker 5: It's hard for me to be impartial with my family. 1338 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,319 Speaker 5: I love him tremendously. Like you look at the history 1339 00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,120 Speaker 5: of the Matthews, especially on the male side, it's just 1340 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,800 Speaker 5: high achievement. Going back to my great grandfather, Maddie played 1341 00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:48,960 Speaker 5: professional baseball and then ultimately was a boxing coach at 1342 00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:53,960 Speaker 5: the Citadel. My grandfather Clay the first Clay Senior was drafted, 1343 00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,880 Speaker 5: played for the forty nine ers. He played for the 1344 00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:00,560 Speaker 5: forty nine ers, then went and served in the Airborne, 1345 00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,080 Speaker 5: then went back played for the forty nine ers, got 1346 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,160 Speaker 5: out of the league. This is in fifty five fifty six, 1347 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:06,920 Speaker 5: because he had five kids, and you couldn't support a 1348 00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,160 Speaker 5: family on five You couldn't support a family of five kids. 1349 00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,879 Speaker 5: The area is right there. Handsome guy looks like me. 1350 00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:13,200 Speaker 4: And so. 1351 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:16,040 Speaker 1: This is a trip. 1352 00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:19,480 Speaker 5: Couldn't support a family of five on an NFL salary 1353 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,320 Speaker 5: because it wasn't. So he goes into business. Fast forward 1354 00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,800 Speaker 5: twenty years. He's the CEO of a publicly traded company, 1355 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:26,200 Speaker 5: so highly successful. 1356 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:26,800 Speaker 2: Then you have. 1357 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,720 Speaker 5: There's four males in the next generation, my dad and 1358 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,600 Speaker 5: my uncle who are Hall of Fame effectively Hall of 1359 00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:37,840 Speaker 5: Fame player. My father longest. I think most games NFL 1360 00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,240 Speaker 5: history as a linebacker my dad, I could be wrong. 1361 00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,280 Speaker 5: And then most games NFL history as a o lineman, Bruce, 1362 00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,720 Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure that's true, are still true. And then 1363 00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,360 Speaker 5: the two other males were mentally handicapped. 1364 00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:49,840 Speaker 1: So like that. 1365 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,520 Speaker 5: Where I'm getting is I'm the oldest male of the 1366 00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:58,160 Speaker 5: next generation between me, Clay Bryan Casey on our side, 1367 00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,600 Speaker 5: so four, and then how many males on Bruce six seven, 1368 00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,720 Speaker 5: so eleven twelve, I'm the oldest. And then I played 1369 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,080 Speaker 5: football at SC and I get a letter, I play 1370 00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,600 Speaker 5: some special teams. It does I realize I'm not going 1371 00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:11,520 Speaker 5: to go to the NFL. Like I see I played 1372 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,000 Speaker 5: the same position at the same time as Troy Polamolo. 1373 00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,240 Speaker 5: So I'm like, okay, that's an NFL guy. 1374 00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:16,920 Speaker 4: Competition. 1375 00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he's okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. 1376 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,080 Speaker 2: Watching him kill that dude on that special thing is playing. 1377 00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:23,680 Speaker 4: I was there. 1378 00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:28,120 Speaker 5: I was I was there on the sideline. No, but 1379 00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,080 Speaker 5: but I I very quickly I said, okay, that's an 1380 00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:30,680 Speaker 5: NFL guy. 1381 00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:31,120 Speaker 4: That's not me. 1382 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:33,960 Speaker 5: And so I go into the I go into commercial 1383 00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,640 Speaker 5: really say the work, the workplace, and I'm sitting there 1384 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,400 Speaker 5: my first day at work, like sitting in a cube 1385 00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,240 Speaker 5: like kind of what all athletes you know have dread, Like, 1386 00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,640 Speaker 5: oh no, that nine to five, so to speak. It's 1387 00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,360 Speaker 5: it's not that bad. It just very much, you know, 1388 00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,840 Speaker 5: think of a visual representation. I said, well, I'm not 1389 00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,560 Speaker 5: going to be the first average Matthews Like, okay, it's 1390 00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:53,880 Speaker 5: not going to be the NFL. If it's going to 1391 00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,720 Speaker 5: be this real estate thing, I'm going to do whatever 1392 00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,080 Speaker 5: it takes to be the greatest of all time because 1393 00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,000 Speaker 5: I'm not going to be the first in my line 1394 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,760 Speaker 5: to be an average and to not leave a mark 1395 00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,200 Speaker 5: for whatever that's worth. And you could say, oh, expectations, 1396 00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:09,040 Speaker 5: that's not fair, that's silly. That's true, Like that's what 1397 00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:13,480 Speaker 5: drove me and fast forward, you know, ostensibly twenty years 1398 00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:17,040 Speaker 5: to the position I'm in in my industry. Expectations was 1399 00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:21,440 Speaker 5: and to this day is the primary driver outside the 1400 00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,600 Speaker 5: ones we all have, which is supporting our family and 1401 00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:27,040 Speaker 5: well creation, wealth and things like that. So it was huge, 1402 00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,360 Speaker 5: huge for me, and to this day is I don't 1403 00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,480 Speaker 5: want to let down that legacy. And I'm sure people 1404 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,160 Speaker 5: listening is like, well, that's stupid. That's what I felt, right. 1405 00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:35,800 Speaker 5: Does that make sense? 1406 00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it makes a lot of sense. How long 1407 00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,680 Speaker 4: did it take you to kind of feel like at 1408 00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,640 Speaker 4: peace with the end? Not make it to the NFL 1409 00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,400 Speaker 4: going into more of a traditional job because I think 1410 00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,000 Speaker 4: a lot of people that listen to the show, we 1411 00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,120 Speaker 4: have a lot of x NFL players on, we don't 1412 00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,000 Speaker 4: have a lot of people that are you know, just 1413 00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,400 Speaker 4: played college and then we're highly successful in the real 1414 00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,600 Speaker 4: estate world. So more people than not have to make 1415 00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,720 Speaker 4: that transition earlier than people that are usually on the 1416 00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,200 Speaker 4: show that it probably won't don't know like how like 1417 01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,600 Speaker 4: how long did it take you to come to peace 1418 01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,120 Speaker 4: with like one to the next chapter? 1419 01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:07,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a great question. 1420 01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:10,840 Speaker 4: It took a minute to get that one out. 1421 01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,120 Speaker 2: But well, here's what he had such a good job 1422 01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:15,800 Speaker 2: articulating the entire journey. Question. 1423 01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, here's here's what you can. 1424 01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:20,600 Speaker 2: Tell he's in the CDs. You know why. 1425 01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:22,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, here's here's what. 1426 01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,320 Speaker 5: I want to make sure I answer your question because 1427 01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:25,960 Speaker 5: there's like a couple of things to impact there. So 1428 01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,280 Speaker 5: the first I want to say that I have had 1429 01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,800 Speaker 5: time to think about this, and I am convinced that 1430 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,320 Speaker 5: it was a blessing for me never really to get 1431 01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,360 Speaker 5: traction as a player into college in the NFL. I 1432 01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:41,360 Speaker 5: I and I have I've seen this firsthand, both within 1433 01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,480 Speaker 5: my family and outside my family, that I actually think 1434 01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:45,000 Speaker 5: it's harder if you play in the league four or 1435 01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:48,760 Speaker 5: five years. It's like a tease, like you actually taste 1436 01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,400 Speaker 5: and touch it and you get you get paid, whether 1437 01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,800 Speaker 5: it's the minimum three ninety five. I don't know if 1438 01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:55,280 Speaker 5: that's still it or you get paid three million bucks 1439 01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,880 Speaker 5: a year to do that for four or five years 1440 01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,440 Speaker 5: and you do get some wealth and then for the 1441 01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,520 Speaker 5: career not to work out and you're thirty and you say, okay, 1442 01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:03,920 Speaker 5: what do I do now? And then you start in 1443 01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,600 Speaker 5: a career. Let's just say just like mine, and let's 1444 01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,840 Speaker 5: say you're starting salaries fifty five grand. You're like fifty 1445 01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,840 Speaker 5: five grand like I made that per quarter, right, And 1446 01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:17,000 Speaker 5: it's such it's such a mind buck, right, It's it's 1447 01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,800 Speaker 5: not it's really hard. I never had to overcome that, 1448 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,240 Speaker 5: and so I'm sensitive and I have empathy for the 1449 01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:25,160 Speaker 5: athletes who actually did play. They didn't play long enough. 1450 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:28,000 Speaker 5: If I may to not, at least financially ever have 1451 01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,440 Speaker 5: to work again, Whether you should or shouldn't, that's that's opinion. 1452 01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,800 Speaker 5: But like to where financially you know, you probably don't 1453 01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:37,000 Speaker 5: need to worry about money. A lot of athletes they 1454 01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,040 Speaker 5: play a little bit and then it's taken away. So 1455 01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:41,280 Speaker 5: again I want to make sure I answer your question. 1456 01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,400 Speaker 5: I think it was easier for me, and it wasn't easy, 1457 01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:44,800 Speaker 5: but it was easier for me because I never even 1458 01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,640 Speaker 5: I never even tasted that or touched it or experienced that. 1459 01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,080 Speaker 5: So I went straight from you know, kind of a 1460 01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:52,880 Speaker 5: special teamer in college to like the workforce. And so 1461 01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:58,840 Speaker 5: the answer to your question is it it's it's very hard, 1462 01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,520 Speaker 5: and it it gets easier over time, but you never 1463 01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,640 Speaker 5: truly get over it. And I don't know. I don't 1464 01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:09,120 Speaker 5: know if if a guy who played fifteen years and 1465 01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:10,960 Speaker 5: never has to work again and made all pro and 1466 01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:12,400 Speaker 5: is in the Hall of Fame ever gets over it. 1467 01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:13,920 Speaker 5: You see it every day. I don't know if any 1468 01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,040 Speaker 5: of you guys will ever get over it. It's so hard, 1469 01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:21,120 Speaker 5: you know, to have that life when you're twenty seven, 1470 01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:23,000 Speaker 5: and then fast forward to forty seven, and you know, 1471 01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,400 Speaker 5: people care less and you make less. So it just 1472 01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:28,000 Speaker 5: it was really hard. Early on, I'm sitting in that cube, 1473 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:29,920 Speaker 5: I'm working at the time. I usually get in the 1474 01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:31,720 Speaker 5: office at five forty five to six, and I worked 1475 01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:33,760 Speaker 5: till eight thirty nine at night, like five days a 1476 01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,760 Speaker 5: week plus Saturdays. And all of my teammates, my close 1477 01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:38,880 Speaker 5: friends from SC like I would say all a lot 1478 01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:40,640 Speaker 5: of them are playing in the league, especially at that 1479 01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,640 Speaker 5: time with Pete Carroll and g I ay say it 1480 01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,000 Speaker 5: was early two thousands early two thousands, and he came 1481 01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:47,720 Speaker 5: in right after there was a ten year run where 1482 01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:49,680 Speaker 5: like in any given year, you know, ten fifteen year 1483 01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:51,760 Speaker 5: teammates were going to the league, and everyone going there 1484 01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:53,960 Speaker 5: was like I'm going to the NFL. Whether that happened 1485 01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,000 Speaker 5: or not, obviously, you know, not everybody made it. But 1486 01:02:57,880 --> 01:02:59,880 Speaker 5: you know guys that I played with, Sean Cody, a Loofuz, 1487 01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:04,120 Speaker 5: Super obviously, Lionert Bush, all those guys like they're playing 1488 01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,680 Speaker 5: and they're moving on, and I'm you know, sitting in 1489 01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,960 Speaker 5: a much less glamorous light, you know, wearing a suit 1490 01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:13,640 Speaker 5: and tie and and uh, you just everybody handles it differently. 1491 01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:17,440 Speaker 5: I just again getting back to partly the not letting 1492 01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,280 Speaker 5: the Matthew saying. Now, I said, I'm just not gonna 1493 01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,880 Speaker 5: I'm just not gonna let these guys have these big 1494 01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,480 Speaker 5: lives and I'm not. And if it's real estate, I 1495 01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,160 Speaker 5: don't know how. I don't know how I'm gonna do it, 1496 01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,440 Speaker 5: but I'm gonna figure it out. Like I'm not going 1497 01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:32,640 Speaker 5: to be the only unsuccessful teammate. I'm not going to 1498 01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:34,840 Speaker 5: have my teammate say hey, we're gonna go here and 1499 01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:36,960 Speaker 5: say sorry, I can't do that or I can't afford that. 1500 01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:40,440 Speaker 5: And again one of my big driver was the family legacy, 1501 01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:42,720 Speaker 5: but one of many drivers you have or you hope 1502 01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,920 Speaker 5: you have when you're when you're getting getting out of sports. 1503 01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:47,000 Speaker 5: Did I answer your question? 1504 01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we knocked it out of the park. 1505 01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,280 Speaker 2: It's kind of that if you can tell you understood 1506 01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,320 Speaker 2: this about Kyberfest is kind of the first time you're 1507 01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:55,160 Speaker 2: hearing all of it, and. 1508 01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,400 Speaker 1: Like, well, as far as the legacy is concerned, that's 1509 01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:00,840 Speaker 1: definitely new to me. And it doesn't sup though, and 1510 01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,120 Speaker 1: it doesn't the reason why he's had a success, But 1511 01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:06,720 Speaker 1: as to where that motivator comes from, you know, I mean, 1512 01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,400 Speaker 1: I think that's I'm not gonna say a surprise, but 1513 01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,920 Speaker 1: it's interesting to hear because obviously it's Matthews. We talk 1514 01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:16,440 Speaker 1: about how we're emotional but not a motive. So to 1515 01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:19,400 Speaker 1: have these conversations, you know, you're like, oh, okay, it's 1516 01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,360 Speaker 1: usually when it's a little a little late, but yeah, 1517 01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:26,200 Speaker 1: to your point about you know, like us kind of yeah, 1518 01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:30,000 Speaker 1: I don't think any of us we have to be 1519 01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,040 Speaker 1: at peace with when our career comes to end, because 1520 01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:34,040 Speaker 1: I don't think any of us wanted to give it up. No, 1521 01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:37,160 Speaker 1: highest paid probably at one point. I know I was 1522 01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:43,000 Speaker 1: Pro Bowls, All Pros ten years. Yeah, argue, I'm a 1523 01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:43,880 Speaker 1: little round up for you. 1524 01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:46,360 Speaker 5: If you include Dynasty Mode in Madden. 1525 01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and you know, so you have to be 1526 01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:51,720 Speaker 1: at peace with that. You have to, you know, because 1527 01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:54,160 Speaker 1: it's it's you can't sit here because obviously I still 1528 01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:56,560 Speaker 1: felt like I have I had some tread on the 1529 01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:59,720 Speaker 1: tires when the Rams let me go in two thousand 1530 01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,080 Speaker 1: and nine team, but you still feel like you got tread. Well, 1531 01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:03,920 Speaker 1: I do have tread, It's just you know, it's more 1532 01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:05,560 Speaker 1: around my stomach right now. 1533 01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,880 Speaker 2: So's but you do look like you could, Yeah, if 1534 01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,960 Speaker 2: the playoff team needed you right now, right plus the jacket. 1535 01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,120 Speaker 1: The packers said they we're looking for someone, but we 1536 01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:15,919 Speaker 1: saw that ended. 1537 01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:19,480 Speaker 5: But no one really ever gets over it. 1538 01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:21,800 Speaker 4: No one ever gets over it. But you're right, you 1539 01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:23,160 Speaker 4: got to have you have to have some sort of peace. 1540 01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:25,439 Speaker 4: You have like you you have gratitude. Other than being 1541 01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:26,720 Speaker 4: like I wish I could have done X, Y and Z, 1542 01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:29,000 Speaker 4: you have to look back and be like, man, I'm 1543 01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,360 Speaker 4: so lucky I got to do whatever it is, whether 1544 01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:33,919 Speaker 4: it was for a couple of years, or if you're 1545 01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:35,120 Speaker 4: a Hall of Fame type. 1546 01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:36,520 Speaker 1: Guy, this is hard. It's hard to think like that too. 1547 01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:38,560 Speaker 1: It is usually a forced out of the league for 1548 01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:42,400 Speaker 1: whatever reason. Injuries, new GM, new head coach, team sucks, 1549 01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,200 Speaker 1: you know, whatever it may be. So it's always somebody 1550 01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:47,120 Speaker 1: else's fault. You got to look in the mirror too 1551 01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:48,680 Speaker 1: and be like, whoever's fault to us? You got to 1552 01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:50,480 Speaker 1: let it go and you know, be at peace. So 1553 01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:53,360 Speaker 1: and you know, obviously you're still working. But for me, 1554 01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:55,560 Speaker 1: I learned that from my father, you know, as soon 1555 01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:57,880 Speaker 1: as he retired. It's just he would always say he's 1556 01:05:57,880 --> 01:05:59,480 Speaker 1: at peace. So I'm like, all right, well. 1557 01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:03,840 Speaker 4: Time to do it. Well he's at a piece. Then 1558 01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:04,680 Speaker 4: he's ever been at peace. 1559 01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:07,080 Speaker 2: Even if you're the greatest and that ego is still there, 1560 01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:08,960 Speaker 2: it's only gonna take what probably a decade for a 1561 01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:10,800 Speaker 2: generation to start kind of forgetting. Then you're like, do 1562 01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:12,800 Speaker 2: these guys forgot what I did? If you're so tied 1563 01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:15,240 Speaker 2: to that identity of being the best of all time? 1564 01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:17,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think your mind plays tricks on you, 1565 01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,520 Speaker 5: like this will sound stupid. I to this day, I'm 1566 01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:21,720 Speaker 5: forty two. I never even played in the NFL, and 1567 01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:23,880 Speaker 5: I'll watch a game be like I think I can 1568 01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:26,400 Speaker 5: play like today, like if I if I'm really trained, 1569 01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,440 Speaker 5: like and that's a joke, but I guarantee you and 1570 01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:31,480 Speaker 5: all the athletes like you're like if I just wake 1571 01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:33,320 Speaker 5: up tomorrow and I get like, I think I could 1572 01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:35,760 Speaker 5: get back to it, and then you work out hard 1573 01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:37,800 Speaker 5: for like two days, You're like, let. 1574 01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:39,520 Speaker 4: Me stop you there. I've been we go to a 1575 01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:41,680 Speaker 4: lot of games during the fall, and I'll watch warm 1576 01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:43,640 Speaker 4: ups and I'm just like, how the fuck do people 1577 01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:47,480 Speaker 4: do this? The more you're removed, like the callous leaves 1578 01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,360 Speaker 4: and you're just like, you know, I get up and 1579 01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:51,600 Speaker 4: I'm like I grab I see guys like block a 1580 01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:52,560 Speaker 4: little bit. I grab my knee. 1581 01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:55,600 Speaker 5: I'm like, I don't know's it's It's a hard sport 1582 01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:57,880 Speaker 5: on everybody, but big guys, it's really hard. 1583 01:06:57,920 --> 01:06:59,880 Speaker 4: If you watch the playoffs yesterday, you see Jayden Daniels 1584 01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:03,160 Speaker 4: take that hit on the sidelines, It's like, what are 1585 01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:03,720 Speaker 4: we doing on here? 1586 01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:06,800 Speaker 1: Boys? I watched my kids like jump off the coffee table. 1587 01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:08,240 Speaker 1: I'm like looking at his knees. 1588 01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:12,200 Speaker 4: Mine my kids like bump their like or whatever. I'll 1589 01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:14,200 Speaker 4: kind of like a seven. 1590 01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:17,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, when I was in Chicago on Friday, they played 1591 01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:20,440 Speaker 2: pickup basketball in the afternoon, and I shoot you, now, 1592 01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:22,600 Speaker 2: bro Ran, I've been down the court three times and 1593 01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:24,480 Speaker 2: my chest for the rest of the day, I'm like 1594 01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:28,400 Speaker 2: hawking Logan's yeh. I'm like, man, yeah, it's It's not 1595 01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:30,560 Speaker 2: that I thought it was never over, but it's for sure. 1596 01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:33,840 Speaker 2: Even waking up this morning, like, I still have some 1597 01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:36,600 Speaker 2: inflammation on my knees just from playing pickup BASKETBA. 1598 01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,600 Speaker 4: That's what makes it so impressive about some guys who 1599 01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:40,680 Speaker 4: took a year off and you never really see success 1600 01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,160 Speaker 4: other than Trent Williams. Trent Williams the only guy I've 1601 01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,480 Speaker 4: ever seen take a year off come back and be 1602 01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:47,360 Speaker 4: the same, if not better than they were before. 1603 01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:49,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's built different that Sorry to cut you off. 1604 01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:51,960 Speaker 1: That's what I felt when I was let go from 1605 01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:57,920 Speaker 1: the Rams. It was March of COVID Denver in Seattle 1606 01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:00,640 Speaker 1: called and they called it you know, a week one 1607 01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:04,040 Speaker 1: of that next I guess the twenty twenty season, and 1608 01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:06,120 Speaker 1: I had let myself, Like you said that callous, I 1609 01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:09,480 Speaker 1: removed myself just a little bit, and deep down I 1610 01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:12,560 Speaker 1: started well, I started filling in where I wasn't in 1611 01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:15,280 Speaker 1: the kids' lives, you know, getting to school, picking them up, homework, 1612 01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:18,080 Speaker 1: whatever it may be. And I felt myself gravitating towards 1613 01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:20,680 Speaker 1: that role and slipping whatever you'd like to call it, 1614 01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,600 Speaker 1: pushing football further away to where they would call and 1615 01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:25,280 Speaker 1: you're just like, ah, man, this ain't so bad. 1616 01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:29,160 Speaker 2: On the other side, yeah, the manuy, you get a 1617 01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:31,920 Speaker 2: couple of weekends to yourself and you see your team, 1618 01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:33,400 Speaker 2: Like I remember when it was the year I went 1619 01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:35,800 Speaker 2: to Oakland, but my year before that, I was with 1620 01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:37,560 Speaker 2: the Titans, and the Titans started off that's when that 1621 01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:40,160 Speaker 2: was the whole AFC championship. You started off like losing 1622 01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:41,960 Speaker 2: four in a row maybe, or you guys were two 1623 01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:43,840 Speaker 2: and four. But I'm sitting there, I'm like, thank god, 1624 01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:45,559 Speaker 2: I don't got to go in tomorrow because the just 1625 01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:47,960 Speaker 2: the bubble that you're in football wise, Like, thank god, 1626 01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,200 Speaker 2: I'm not about to get it viscerated by Rabel and 1627 01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:50,719 Speaker 2: a team meeting. 1628 01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:52,519 Speaker 1: But I thought you were coming back though, with Braves 1629 01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:53,519 Speaker 1: going over to New England. 1630 01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:56,960 Speaker 2: I might be there's a couple of calls, a couple 1631 01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,760 Speaker 2: of conversations, maybe just the chemistry guy, locker room guy, 1632 01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:03,080 Speaker 2: just a strictly vibes guy. Yeah. 1633 01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:05,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, stretches job, that stretches job. Take the track. 1634 01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:08,519 Speaker 5: Yeah that guy Glenny Balls eats ice cream. 1635 01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:11,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're that just sitting in the corner of the meeting. Yeah, 1636 01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:15,599 Speaker 4: eat some food, taking his jokes extra hard. Yeah, you're 1637 01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:20,640 Speaker 4: the funniest man. Yeah. He's at the team meaning you 1638 01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:23,800 Speaker 4: get off under the desk, go ahead, coach. 1639 01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:29,280 Speaker 5: He's just like you just totally nailed, Like awesome, dude. 1640 01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:32,240 Speaker 4: No one can touch you, right yeah. 1641 01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, the fluffer. What was it like, Clay for you? 1642 01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:38,080 Speaker 2: Like I was reading somewhere where you would have liked 1643 01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:40,120 Speaker 2: to have finished in Green Bay, like the legacy that 1644 01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,120 Speaker 2: you had in Green Bay. What was it like for 1645 01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:43,880 Speaker 2: you going to the rams and you were just kind 1646 01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:45,760 Speaker 2: of talking about the Denver in Seattle and your kind 1647 01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:47,639 Speaker 2: of feeling you're kind of out of it, like coming 1648 01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:49,559 Speaker 2: to coming to terms with your career. 1649 01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:52,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I was disappointed in how my time in 1650 01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:55,880 Speaker 1: Green Bay ended. So my contract was up after the 1651 01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,200 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen season. I played, you know, I played out 1652 01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:01,479 Speaker 1: two contracts and we we had a defensive coordinator. In 1653 01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:05,479 Speaker 1: my first nine years, I was rolling. My tenth year, 1654 01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:07,759 Speaker 1: we had a new decordinate out of career low in sacks. 1655 01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:09,360 Speaker 1: But I knew I could still play, you know as 1656 01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:10,880 Speaker 1: well everybody says that, but I'm like, I know I 1657 01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:12,000 Speaker 1: can still play. I know it and get to the 1658 01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:15,200 Speaker 1: quarterback him. Obviously they decided to go in a different direction. 1659 01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:17,120 Speaker 2: Would you play an inside a little bit more? 1660 01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:19,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, thats what I was the two thousand and fifteen 1661 01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:23,360 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen season. Uh, and they obviously held that against 1662 01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:24,840 Speaker 1: me when they say your sack numbers are down, I 1663 01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:26,160 Speaker 1: was like, well, I just made two Pro Bowls and 1664 01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:27,480 Speaker 1: I'll pro it inside linebacker. 1665 01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:29,759 Speaker 2: But of course, just bullshit, you had like sixty tackles 1666 01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:30,280 Speaker 2: as an inside. 1667 01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:31,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, grow did you see my impact? 1668 01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:32,439 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1669 01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,120 Speaker 1: Twenty fourteen were line back on. 1670 01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:37,000 Speaker 2: Swinging at the air that you have, not that we 1671 01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:38,800 Speaker 2: were saying. We argued that we should have got in there. 1672 01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:40,920 Speaker 2: But how did this dude Clay Matthews just off his 1673 01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:42,599 Speaker 2: name again? 1674 01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:48,439 Speaker 5: Maybe if you grow your hair out, it takes discipline. 1675 01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:51,719 Speaker 1: A Yeah, twenty fourteen were the thirty first ranked run defense. 1676 01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:54,480 Speaker 1: That was the year we choked to Seattle on the playoffs, 1677 01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:56,439 Speaker 1: and then the second half of that season top five 1678 01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:57,560 Speaker 1: when I moved inside. 1679 01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:04,559 Speaker 2: Okay, argue against Yeah, yeah, stand up, you're right Williams. 1680 01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:05,920 Speaker 1: I still got the ego. 1681 01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:09,560 Speaker 4: I still got the ego, but the impact I made it. 1682 01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:11,799 Speaker 5: He hasn't memorized that anything. 1683 01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:15,400 Speaker 1: I just know it. So they let me go, and 1684 01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:18,439 Speaker 1: are they let me? You know, Hey, we appreciate all 1685 01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:19,400 Speaker 1: you've done here. That's now. 1686 01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:20,920 Speaker 2: Are they communicating with you a lot? 1687 01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:21,040 Speaker 9: Like? 1688 01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:21,439 Speaker 4: No? 1689 01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:23,519 Speaker 1: That's That's what I was disappointed with is you know, 1690 01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:25,479 Speaker 1: they had insinuated that they were going to bring me 1691 01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:28,160 Speaker 1: back or at least, hey, you go out, you know, 1692 01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:30,639 Speaker 1: field some offers, we'd like to match it. And then 1693 01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:34,040 Speaker 1: I find out on Twitter they signed Preston and Zadarius 1694 01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:37,080 Speaker 1: Smith and I'm like, oh, well, you know, and so 1695 01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:39,519 Speaker 1: they call, you know, a couple of minutes later, appreciate 1696 01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:42,240 Speaker 1: everything you've done, you know, yeah, we'll see you down there. 1697 01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:46,879 Speaker 2: How enraged were you with that phone call? I? 1698 01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:48,679 Speaker 1: I was kind of shook, you know, because I didn't 1699 01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:51,559 Speaker 1: expect that. You know, we my wife, no, we were 1700 01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:53,400 Speaker 1: all staying back there in the off season because there 1701 01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:56,320 Speaker 1: was some uncertainty. We had our third child out there, 1702 01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:59,000 Speaker 1: and I thought I'd for sure be coming back, and 1703 01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:02,080 Speaker 1: so that that was you know, I just It was 1704 01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:03,360 Speaker 1: in all a little bit and I think a lot 1705 01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:05,599 Speaker 1: of people, a lot of fans thought that I chose 1706 01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:08,280 Speaker 1: to leave to go to LA being an LA kid 1707 01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:10,400 Speaker 1: and whatnot. But the reality was, you know, at that point, 1708 01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:13,080 Speaker 1: and we're also four or five six days in the 1709 01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:15,599 Speaker 1: free agency. So these coaches, these teams like, oh man, 1710 01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:17,720 Speaker 1: I didn't know you know. They we thought you were 1711 01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:21,320 Speaker 1: going to resign there. And so the Rams and the 1712 01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:24,680 Speaker 1: Ravens were the two teams that reached out. And I 1713 01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:27,479 Speaker 1: talked to Eric Weddle, he was with the Ravens, signed 1714 01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:29,320 Speaker 1: with the Rams, and Rams were coming off the Super 1715 01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:32,680 Speaker 1: Bowl from LA. Baltimore was offering a little bit more 1716 01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:34,519 Speaker 1: money and they just came off a season with Lamar 1717 01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:36,439 Speaker 1: had just been drafted. Let's just say they were eight 1718 01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:38,479 Speaker 1: and eight. I'm like, oh man, this guy's not gonna 1719 01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:43,400 Speaker 1: be any good. They're not eight. Jared goff In the ramsay, yeah, McVeigh. 1720 01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,840 Speaker 1: So I opted to go to LA. We didn't even 1721 01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:49,919 Speaker 1: make the playoffs. They cut me loose. After year, Baltimore 1722 01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:52,679 Speaker 1: went fourteen and two. They had like twelve Pro Bowl starters. 1723 01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:56,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, MVC, I'm like, man, I'm talking about 1724 01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:59,680 Speaker 1: a bad decision. But I really though twenty eleven we 1725 01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:01,439 Speaker 1: went far teen and one in Green Bay. In twenty 1726 01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:05,240 Speaker 1: nineteen my year in LA were two of my favorite years, 1727 01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:08,679 Speaker 1: So I can't speak disparagingly on the RAMS. I really 1728 01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:11,960 Speaker 1: enjoyed my time there and playing with Aaron Donald, who 1729 01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:13,720 Speaker 1: freed up so much for me. I mean, it was 1730 01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:16,040 Speaker 1: the first time since my rookie year that I wasn't 1731 01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:18,800 Speaker 1: double teamed anymore. And speaking of those stats, I was 1732 01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:22,400 Speaker 1: top five and like rush win percentage with like Bosa 1733 01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:25,880 Speaker 1: and TJ. Watton and year eleven. So but yeah, I mean, 1734 01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:27,719 Speaker 1: I don't know here was that twenty nineteen. 1735 01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:31,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, we didn't play because you would have gone against 1736 01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:33,040 Speaker 4: handled probably. 1737 01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:35,400 Speaker 2: Unless it was the first six games, no nineteen. 1738 01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,160 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the first six games PERSONA four. 1739 01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:38,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1740 01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:39,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, we spend it. 1741 01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:42,360 Speaker 1: Yeah we we We played you once, although I didn't play. 1742 01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:43,120 Speaker 1: I was injured at the time. 1743 01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:45,000 Speaker 4: You guys just hey, when you were injured, I was like, 1744 01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:45,800 Speaker 4: thank god. 1745 01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:49,400 Speaker 5: You see you see the starters out, You're like game, 1746 01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:52,080 Speaker 5: especially when you got kicked out. 1747 01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,920 Speaker 1: He got kicked out. Ltroit guy on came across the line, 1748 01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:56,559 Speaker 1: he knocked over Mary. 1749 01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:58,559 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we did a hard count. He he jumped 1750 01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:00,360 Speaker 4: and he pushed Marcus down. You were not having that. 1751 01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:02,599 Speaker 1: Well, they the reps, weren't having you when they kicked 1752 01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:03,200 Speaker 1: you out of the game. 1753 01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:07,280 Speaker 4: That I will say I was in. I was in 1754 01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:09,599 Speaker 4: for four place and I was a part of still 1755 01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:12,000 Speaker 4: sixty percent of Demarcolm Murraysey roast Yard. It's not a 1756 01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:14,840 Speaker 4: big deal, but uh, I got objected from that game 1757 01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:17,880 Speaker 4: because I'm looking at whoever that guy is and the 1758 01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:19,160 Speaker 4: ref had his hand on my chest. 1759 01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:20,640 Speaker 1: But the rest risk that's right. 1760 01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:22,800 Speaker 4: You just like moved a hind and I'm like, he's like, 1761 01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,360 Speaker 4: you're gone. You're out here, buddy. There is not a 1762 01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:28,640 Speaker 4: lonelier feeling they're in that locker room. I had my 1763 01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:30,400 Speaker 4: pants on that halftime still when they came in, and 1764 01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:32,439 Speaker 4: I'm like in the corner, kind of like will would 1765 01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:34,040 Speaker 4: be in Rape's meeting room if you went to the 1766 01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:35,759 Speaker 4: past and they lost, like just kind of scared. 1767 01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:43,120 Speaker 2: Wow, shot, right, That's what I'm talking about. 1768 01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:47,519 Speaker 4: But that was Yeah, thank god we won that game. 1769 01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:49,840 Speaker 4: Thank god. I thought we were gonna get killed that game. 1770 01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:52,160 Speaker 1: I forget what happened. I think we we just didn't play. 1771 01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:57,920 Speaker 1: What year was that, sixteen? Yeah, sixteen sixteen sixteen sixteen, Yeah, 1772 01:14:58,080 --> 01:14:59,479 Speaker 1: ye to your own fans or to us. 1773 01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:00,960 Speaker 4: It was more of the refs, But it was just 1774 01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:02,799 Speaker 4: a nice photo of me with one of those. 1775 01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:04,240 Speaker 1: What did you what was the Did you get a 1776 01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:05,840 Speaker 1: fine for just getting injected or did you get to it? 1777 01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:08,200 Speaker 4: I got a thirty thousand dollars fine for being injected, 1778 01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:10,360 Speaker 4: and I think it got rescinded though, because they're like, yeah, 1779 01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:11,480 Speaker 4: they shouldn't have ejected. 1780 01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:12,800 Speaker 1: You by the scaling and you got the victory, and 1781 01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:15,599 Speaker 1: you did. It's just like fifteen games season to start. 1782 01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:18,240 Speaker 5: Yes, I got a lot of street cred, but I 1783 01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:19,040 Speaker 5: already had that going on. 1784 01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:22,320 Speaker 4: That's the reason it was like my that was my year. 1785 01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:23,840 Speaker 4: I came on the scene a little bit. That's when 1786 01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:25,760 Speaker 4: I had like my first Pro Bowl. Things were going 1787 01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:27,479 Speaker 4: really well. We ended up going nine and seven after 1788 01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:29,880 Speaker 4: going two and fourteen and three and thirteen, so that's 1789 01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:31,360 Speaker 4: when they really started to go from me. A little 1790 01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:33,360 Speaker 4: bit short lived, but it was still a nice couple 1791 01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:33,639 Speaker 4: of years. 1792 01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:37,240 Speaker 2: I love how recently was their pods. There's like a 1793 01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:38,760 Speaker 2: new story that we get to hear about with you, 1794 01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:42,040 Speaker 2: which I mean just oh, yeah, you got injected. I 1795 01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:43,599 Speaker 2: haven't heard that one you haven't heard. Yeah. 1796 01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:46,280 Speaker 1: The other good one was we it was preseason game. 1797 01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:48,000 Speaker 2: I was going to bring this up. 1798 01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:49,840 Speaker 4: This is my this is my welcome to the NFL moment. 1799 01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:51,200 Speaker 1: No, no, no, you can you tell that one. This 1800 01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:53,639 Speaker 1: was a this was preseason, like several years later from 1801 01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:57,040 Speaker 1: your rookie year. Maybe it's week three, week four. 1802 01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:58,559 Speaker 4: We're in We're in lambre Bay. 1803 01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:02,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, Lambeau and I still am good friends with. Of 1804 01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:05,000 Speaker 1: course I'm blanking on his name right now. Kyler Kyler 1805 01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:10,360 Speaker 1: fact Team, Kyler Kyler factro. He actually had eleven sacks 1806 01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:13,080 Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen. But anyways, you were you you guys 1807 01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:14,840 Speaker 1: were going at it in the first and he's an 1808 01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:17,880 Speaker 1: LDS member, good old boy, you know more man, and 1809 01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:20,360 Speaker 1: you were just laying into him. He comes to sideline, 1810 01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:23,320 Speaker 1: he's like, he's telling me to go fuck myself. Like 1811 01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:26,760 Speaker 1: I was like, let's put that guy man, go get on, 1812 01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:30,280 Speaker 1: trying to coach him up, like just running down his face. 1813 01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:32,240 Speaker 4: Pre season game. You had a you had a bucket 1814 01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:35,000 Speaker 4: hat on a bunch of season out there. 1815 01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:37,200 Speaker 1: Don't you only bully you around? 1816 01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:40,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, there is nothing more enjoyable than a fourth preseason 1817 01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:44,479 Speaker 4: game just sitting with the boys do. Would they make 1818 01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:47,080 Speaker 4: you wears sholder pets they worshoulder pats. 1819 01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:49,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, they would, they would. Some some would take it, 1820 01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:51,479 Speaker 1: like Charles Woodson would take it off but you know 1821 01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:54,320 Speaker 1: later right exactly. But I had to keep it on. 1822 01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:56,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, that that was funny the story you told 1823 01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:57,679 Speaker 1: me when yeah, talking about. 1824 01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:01,400 Speaker 4: We met at uh Thomas's charity event or his wife's 1825 01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:04,559 Speaker 4: Love One charity event, and I was I literally like like, hey, 1826 01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:06,120 Speaker 4: Clay Matthews here and I kind of like ran over 1827 01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:08,080 Speaker 4: there like a little fan. We'd like talk for thirty minutes. 1828 01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:11,280 Speaker 4: It was that little brodown and uh yeah, my rookie year. 1829 01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:14,800 Speaker 4: It was like the third preseason game and I was 1830 01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:16,960 Speaker 4: I was not a starter. Was Michael Roose as the starter? 1831 01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:20,040 Speaker 4: But I was in in that bullshit? Uh not the 1832 01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:22,000 Speaker 4: tight end but the wing. Not No, I'm sorry. I 1833 01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:24,760 Speaker 4: was the tight end on field goal, which is the 1834 01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:27,519 Speaker 4: worst position you can possibly be on ever in the 1835 01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:29,600 Speaker 4: history of football. You just take three dudes to the 1836 01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:32,960 Speaker 4: face constantly. But preseason I'm thinking I'm gonna be all right, 1837 01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:35,840 Speaker 4: You're lined up on Michael Roose and like kind of 1838 01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:38,960 Speaker 4: on his shoulder. Yeah, ruses down there ten year videos, 1839 01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:42,000 Speaker 4: Hey Clay go easy, and he just seees get the rookie, 1840 01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:44,240 Speaker 4: and you really just watched Clay in a four point 1841 01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:48,360 Speaker 4: stance shift over and I'm like, hey, what's going on here? 1842 01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:50,920 Speaker 4: Ball snap dude takes me and there's not like a 1843 01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:53,760 Speaker 4: couple guys on me. This is just Clay drives my 1844 01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:57,280 Speaker 4: ass in the ground, doesn't doesn't say a word either, 1845 01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:59,200 Speaker 4: and jogs off and I'm kind of like helt myself up, 1846 01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:00,000 Speaker 4: Like damn motherfucker. 1847 01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:03,479 Speaker 1: I actually felt was like, no, not at the time, 1848 01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:05,600 Speaker 1: I wasn't. I was like, I'm sorry for that, but 1849 01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:07,479 Speaker 1: you know, you got to think like you probably just scored. 1850 01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:09,080 Speaker 1: I actually so I went home on man, I don't 1851 01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:11,040 Speaker 1: remember that, but I remember it was pouring rain. 1852 01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:14,920 Speaker 4: It was, yeah, it was. I love that it affected 1853 01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:16,360 Speaker 4: you enough because I kind of went home and I 1854 01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:17,960 Speaker 4: told my life. I was like, I hope he feels 1855 01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:18,400 Speaker 4: bad about it. 1856 01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:20,960 Speaker 1: I went home and I was like, I just didn't remember. 1857 01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:22,439 Speaker 1: I was like, I sprite. We put a preseason again. 1858 01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:25,200 Speaker 1: That's when Julius came out there to to Green Bay 1859 01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:26,680 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I must have scored and I just 1860 01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:27,599 Speaker 1: took it out on him. 1861 01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:29,800 Speaker 4: But no, it was Michael, it wasn't It. 1862 01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:31,679 Speaker 1: Was always actually rus because. 1863 01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:34,600 Speaker 4: I remember like seeing you and I'm there thing to 1864 01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:37,680 Speaker 4: myself that those fucking forms are massive and they were 1865 01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:39,880 Speaker 4: just vascular, and then all of a sudden the forums 1866 01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:41,920 Speaker 4: got closer to me. And by the way, a lot 1867 01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:43,759 Speaker 4: of hair on your arms, because I remember it vividly, 1868 01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:44,920 Speaker 4: and you just took my. 1869 01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:47,880 Speaker 5: Ass out, all right, well and put put me in 1870 01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:49,519 Speaker 5: there working through this. 1871 01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:56,680 Speaker 1: Actually yeah, yeah, well I'm sorry for that. I apologize, 1872 01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:58,240 Speaker 1: but in a way, it kind of it kind of 1873 01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:01,160 Speaker 1: built you up a little bit, you know. Twenty sixteen 1874 01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:02,760 Speaker 1: was the year we have. 1875 01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:05,120 Speaker 4: This episode of Bring You Rocket Money. 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That's buss I n ted day, 1893 01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:03,920 Speaker 4: Rocket money dot com slash busts And let's get back 1894 01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:04,479 Speaker 4: to this episode. 1895 01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:07,680 Speaker 2: Let's go back to USC. Yeah, you being a walk 1896 01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:09,719 Speaker 2: on always blows my mind. I think it blows everybody's 1897 01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:11,720 Speaker 2: mind that you were a walk on. When did did 1898 01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:13,400 Speaker 2: you ever you earned a scholarship? 1899 01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:14,400 Speaker 1: You never? 1900 01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:14,920 Speaker 2: I never. 1901 01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,680 Speaker 1: In fact, I lied when I got to. 1902 01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:19,519 Speaker 2: Your first round pick, and you never earned scholars I. 1903 01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:20,360 Speaker 1: Didn't get one scholarship. 1904 01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:23,040 Speaker 5: So when I went to you, oh, Pete Carroll his 1905 01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:25,639 Speaker 5: junior year, you were put on scholarship. 1906 01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:26,240 Speaker 7: Is that what you know? 1907 01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:28,719 Speaker 1: He's asking me? Going it going to s I'm sorry, 1908 01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:30,200 Speaker 1: are you asking out of high school? 1909 01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:32,240 Speaker 2: Was I like? Yeah, I knew you were a walk 1910 01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:33,000 Speaker 2: on a high school. 1911 01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:36,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, did you ever earn your scholar clarifying idea, Yes, 1912 01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:39,439 Speaker 1: my red shirt my third year, my red shirt sophomore 1913 01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:42,120 Speaker 1: year earn a scholarship. So I apologize, you're good about 1914 01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:44,760 Speaker 1: to Yeah, I was just gonna get into it, but yeah, 1915 01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:50,479 Speaker 1: I felt like I deserved one. After so, they they 1916 01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:52,559 Speaker 1: have this you know, your g P A, I think 1917 01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:54,160 Speaker 1: your team GP. I don't know if this is still 1918 01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:55,840 Speaker 1: you know, with the nil and whatnot, has to be 1919 01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:58,439 Speaker 1: a certain you know what a threshold. And so every 1920 01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:02,920 Speaker 1: year they give scholarship to like fifth year walk on 1921 01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:05,680 Speaker 1: to bring up the GPA of the teams. Mostly well, 1922 01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:07,639 Speaker 1: you know, there would be like there's just be some guys. 1923 01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:12,040 Speaker 1: And I felt like after my first year, I felt 1924 01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:13,639 Speaker 1: like I deserved a scholarship. It was kind of crazy 1925 01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:15,200 Speaker 1: to think, but I felt like I earned it as 1926 01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:16,639 Speaker 1: a post to the other guys were getting. 1927 01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:18,080 Speaker 2: It in the fashion of the way you performed on 1928 01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:18,479 Speaker 2: the team. 1929 01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:23,000 Speaker 1: Well, I was red shirted, but going into that next year, 1930 01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:25,880 Speaker 1: I was on kickoff and I think punt, so I 1931 01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:28,000 Speaker 1: just felt like I had, you know, but I didn't 1932 01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:29,880 Speaker 1: say anything. And then the next year, you know, they 1933 01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:32,200 Speaker 1: kind of gave me one of the opening. 1934 01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:35,120 Speaker 5: So your third year, I guess. 1935 01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:37,640 Speaker 1: That'd be my restures sophomore year, reh fresher year. I 1936 01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:39,360 Speaker 1: was just trying to keep my head above water. I 1937 01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:43,400 Speaker 1: was I was like the scout team running back where 1938 01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:47,280 Speaker 1: guys were tackling me. I was the pulling guard for 1939 01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:49,479 Speaker 1: dns who were trying to spill it. I was like, 1940 01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:50,640 Speaker 1: this is this, hold up? 1941 01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:51,080 Speaker 7: Hold up? 1942 01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:55,759 Speaker 5: When I got to sc we had three practices today. 1943 01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:58,160 Speaker 5: These are three days, all right, And then heading into 1944 01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:02,240 Speaker 5: like this was freshman soft more and it was really tough. 1945 01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:05,360 Speaker 5: And then there were a couple of athletes who passed 1946 01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:08,640 Speaker 5: away that summer off season workouts. It was a guy 1947 01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:10,760 Speaker 5: at Florida State. Then there was maybe an alignment and 1948 01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:14,080 Speaker 5: the bikingkes and so the n CUAA switched, you know, 1949 01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:17,000 Speaker 5: changer with they regulated practice where you can't have more 1950 01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:20,080 Speaker 5: than two practices a day, like two days in a row, 1951 01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:22,840 Speaker 5: all right. So it started to get easier. But when 1952 01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:25,720 Speaker 5: I got in his brutal this guy comes in right 1953 01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:26,200 Speaker 5: after me. 1954 01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:27,360 Speaker 2: Get this. 1955 01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:29,200 Speaker 5: So he's he's gonna be a red shirt, is what 1956 01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:31,160 Speaker 5: it is like. You know, he's a walk on, he's 1957 01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:36,720 Speaker 5: gonna be camp fodder. You know, he gets down there 1958 01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:39,560 Speaker 5: for like the first practice. Then they rule him ineligible 1959 01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:43,559 Speaker 5: or something. He skipped the entire red shirt camp. 1960 01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:46,240 Speaker 1: Yeah what happened. Now, it was a clearinghouse. So I 1961 01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:49,600 Speaker 1: had good grades, but some paperwork didn't get submitted because. 1962 01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:50,559 Speaker 2: I was actually have good grades. 1963 01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:57,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, I got, I got. They sent me 1964 01:22:57,479 --> 01:22:59,400 Speaker 1: home after a week, and like I said, that first 1965 01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:01,519 Speaker 1: week was rutal because you know, you're like the man 1966 01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:04,439 Speaker 1: in high school no matter where you went, and uh, man, 1967 01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:06,120 Speaker 1: I just remember coming home telling my parents like I 1968 01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:07,320 Speaker 1: wanted to quit. I was like, I want to be 1969 01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:08,920 Speaker 1: closer at home, go to U C. L A and 1970 01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:11,479 Speaker 1: all this stuff. And fortunately I didn't go back till 1971 01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:15,519 Speaker 1: after Reggie. Uh we beat Virginia Tech and he that 1972 01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:17,519 Speaker 1: was his heisman year two thousand and four when we 1973 01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:19,880 Speaker 1: won the national championship. But I didn't go back to 1974 01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:22,280 Speaker 1: week one of practice. So that honestly saved me because 1975 01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:23,320 Speaker 1: I was, man. 1976 01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:25,760 Speaker 5: I was, I'm sitting there sitting in my cube, like 1977 01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:29,559 Speaker 5: what he does have to practice the whole camp. I'm like, man, 1978 01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:30,760 Speaker 5: how does this guy get away with it? 1979 01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:34,400 Speaker 4: A walk on, walk on freshman, They try to break you, 1980 01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:35,240 Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. 1981 01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:38,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, summer you did summer workouts still, yeah, I I 1982 01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:40,519 Speaker 5: you started coming. 1983 01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:42,639 Speaker 1: Down, yeah, you know, but I didn't have to. No, Yes, 1984 01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:44,640 Speaker 1: I did do summer. I think I did summer. But 1985 01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:48,200 Speaker 1: fall camp was like, you know, and especially understand which 1986 01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:50,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure as you know, being a you know, high 1987 01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:53,000 Speaker 1: were you highly recruited at high school? 1988 01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:54,920 Speaker 4: And I mean I know I had like a crazy 1989 01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:58,000 Speaker 4: come up my senior year, but I a scholarships American. 1990 01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:02,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, to football. Well, but it's very it's 1991 01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:04,000 Speaker 1: very clique, as you know, and so if you're a 1992 01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:07,439 Speaker 1: walk on, and there's a negative connotation of walk on, 1993 01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:09,599 Speaker 1: so you're kind of putting this bubble with the frat 1994 01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:12,719 Speaker 1: boys and whatnot. But I was, I was getting at earlier. 1995 01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:14,839 Speaker 1: I lied to some of these guys, like what scholarships 1996 01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:16,479 Speaker 1: did you have? I picked the worst teams in the patch. 1997 01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:19,160 Speaker 1: I was like Arizona, Arizona State. I threw an Idaho, 1998 01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:21,080 Speaker 1: you know. I was like, no one's gonna check it. 1999 01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:22,920 Speaker 1: So I kind of, you know, I fit in there. 2000 01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:25,640 Speaker 1: But then uh, yeah, you're in the top right at 2001 01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:28,160 Speaker 1: Young Troy, right there in the front left, the. 2002 01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:28,920 Speaker 5: Holy White Boy. 2003 01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:31,479 Speaker 2: It's a good feeling. 2004 01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:35,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I forgot. I'm on a tangent right now. 2005 01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:38,320 Speaker 4: You tell you're telling all the guys about the scholarships 2006 01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:39,280 Speaker 4: you had. You picked the worst teams. 2007 01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:41,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, so no would check me and and I wouldn't. 2008 01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:44,840 Speaker 1: I feel better about myself. So that's that. But yeah, 2009 01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:46,560 Speaker 1: I didn't get any scholarhip co of high school, but 2010 01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:48,720 Speaker 1: I did obviously earn one when I was. 2011 01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:50,120 Speaker 2: Just to throw this out there, and Cayle, you can 2012 01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:52,040 Speaker 2: help fact check me if I'm wrong here. But you 2013 01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:54,920 Speaker 2: thought you deserved a scholarship after your red shirt you 2014 01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:57,400 Speaker 2: sorryn't even go to red shirt training camp. 2015 01:24:57,680 --> 01:25:00,960 Speaker 1: No, not my red shirt my second year. I I apologize, 2016 01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:04,960 Speaker 1: all right, Yeah, we've got it all. 2017 01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:08,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, what kind of stories like you played with Leonar 2018 01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:10,120 Speaker 2: and Bush, like you hear all this stuff. He got 2019 01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:12,080 Speaker 2: his heisman taken away for the things that would happen 2020 01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:15,280 Speaker 2: heads a Kardashian. Yeah, under Pete Carroll's regime, he goes 2021 01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:18,720 Speaker 2: off to Seattle. Do you have any stories? Yeah, man 2022 01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:19,800 Speaker 2: about the l A. 2023 01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:23,800 Speaker 4: You know, like you guys, that's when like USC was 2024 01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:29,240 Speaker 4: truly going legitimate celebrities like you were celebrities to the celebrities. 2025 01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:31,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, you go on rivals dot Com and you see 2026 01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:34,240 Speaker 2: them in their gray T shirt cut off T shirts 2027 01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:35,920 Speaker 2: working out, and you be that's the place. You see 2028 01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:39,680 Speaker 2: that red that red wooden fence behind her. There were 2029 01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:40,799 Speaker 2: there were three schools. 2030 01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:42,599 Speaker 4: I want to go to. USC was one of them. 2031 01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:43,519 Speaker 4: Just that was. 2032 01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:45,639 Speaker 1: Was that real quick. 2033 01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:48,800 Speaker 4: Oh nine would have been my freshman year. Oh nine. 2034 01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:50,040 Speaker 4: And as Pete was still there. 2035 01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:52,360 Speaker 1: Well, I know Tyron Smith was still there, but he 2036 01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:54,600 Speaker 1: might have been like a junior or he. 2037 01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:57,240 Speaker 4: Got drafted on twenty eleven, twelve. 2038 01:25:57,280 --> 01:26:00,920 Speaker 1: I think I remember my senior year like these tackles 2039 01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:04,360 Speaker 1: it was Khalil Khalil, uh Matt Khalil, and they were 2040 01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:06,360 Speaker 1: so skinny and sunny. I'd come back and they're like 2041 01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:08,360 Speaker 1: first round draft picks. Yeah. 2042 01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:10,439 Speaker 4: There was one guy I can't remember who's in my class. 2043 01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:12,320 Speaker 4: He was like the number five tackle. It was like, 2044 01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:14,519 Speaker 4: I can't he he had a family like his dad 2045 01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:17,320 Speaker 4: also put at USC. But I was like the I 2046 01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:18,840 Speaker 4: was two fifty five. I was the way I am 2047 01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:20,800 Speaker 4: right now. My senior of high school, like trying to 2048 01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:24,920 Speaker 4: get scholarships on potential. This kid was like three ten already, Like, 2049 01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:26,800 Speaker 4: you know, this kid looks like he can play in 2050 01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:28,920 Speaker 4: the league. I can't remember his name. I had a 2051 01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:32,240 Speaker 4: huge vendetta against him my entire college career, as you should. 2052 01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:34,519 Speaker 4: Yeah till you keep the chip on the shoulder. Yeah, 2053 01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:35,679 Speaker 4: well big one or two guys. 2054 01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:37,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, and you just you create narratives in 2055 01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:39,479 Speaker 5: your head, you know, yeah, whatever you got to do 2056 01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:43,439 Speaker 5: to get yourself up in the morning. So you know, 2057 01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:46,519 Speaker 5: we I think you probably like me. We get this 2058 01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:50,480 Speaker 5: question on what was it like, you know, la celebrities 2059 01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:55,519 Speaker 5: paying players, Like I hate to disappoint at least my experience, 2060 01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:57,120 Speaker 5: and I can't say I was you know, I was 2061 01:26:57,560 --> 01:26:59,559 Speaker 5: boys with all those guys, like I can't necessarily say 2062 01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:02,320 Speaker 5: I was running in the Hollywood circuit with Liner and 2063 01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:05,400 Speaker 5: Reggie like that wasn't necessarily my vibes at the time 2064 01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:08,840 Speaker 5: or ever, but uh it was. It was really a 2065 01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:11,040 Speaker 5: credit to Pete carroll Man and a lot of the 2066 01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:14,200 Speaker 5: company I run today. I founded almost a decade ago 2067 01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:16,600 Speaker 5: and run I unbeknownst to me at the time, Like 2068 01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:21,360 Speaker 5: I got to see a highly successful high performance organization run, 2069 01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:23,599 Speaker 5: in my opinion, as good as it possibly can. Where 2070 01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:27,000 Speaker 5: Pete created this insane level competition like iron sharpens iron, 2071 01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:29,760 Speaker 5: full speed ones versus ones, every day in practice. But 2072 01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:32,560 Speaker 5: then he did it in a way that was so 2073 01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:35,920 Speaker 5: loose and so fun, lots of pranks, lots of celebrities 2074 01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:41,280 Speaker 5: and just the master and and so that's really you know, 2075 01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:43,720 Speaker 5: you juxtaposed that versus a Nick Saban, and both are 2076 01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:48,439 Speaker 5: insanely successful. They're very different, though, and Pete style, in 2077 01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:51,360 Speaker 5: my opinion, you know, so many people tried to replicate it, 2078 01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:54,200 Speaker 5: just not to the degree it was. It was a 2079 01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:55,640 Speaker 5: lot of fun, he was. 2080 01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:56,519 Speaker 1: He was very. 2081 01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:59,080 Speaker 5: Transparent about competition. I'll tell you, I'll give you a story. 2082 01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:02,920 Speaker 5: So I'm sitting there, I'm sitting behind pull A Malu 2083 01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:04,880 Speaker 5: for three years and then heading into my senior year. 2084 01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:07,240 Speaker 5: The way I saw it, we had the strong safety 2085 01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:09,200 Speaker 5: pretty much settled, and I was a safety and the 2086 01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:12,040 Speaker 5: safeties were interchangeable, so the other safety was open, and 2087 01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:14,240 Speaker 5: you know, looking at the depth chart, like humbly speaking, 2088 01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:17,840 Speaker 5: I felt good about my opportunity to potentially earn that spot. 2089 01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:21,320 Speaker 5: And then but they signed a five star freshman, a 2090 01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:23,960 Speaker 5: long Beach poly Darnell Being who'd go on to have 2091 01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:26,160 Speaker 5: a great career and became a good buddy of mine. 2092 01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:28,280 Speaker 5: But you know, I didn't know Darnell personally. When they 2093 01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:29,960 Speaker 5: signed him, I'm like, oh crap, Like, here we go. 2094 01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:33,840 Speaker 5: So it's before spring, before the first practice you meet 2095 01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:35,519 Speaker 5: as a team. You're in the big team meeting room 2096 01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:37,920 Speaker 5: and Pete goes, hey, guys, okay, this spring we got 2097 01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:39,680 Speaker 5: to get after it. Were just coming off you know, 2098 01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:43,560 Speaker 5: a big BCS win like and he goes, but I 2099 01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:46,000 Speaker 5: want you to understand the opportunity you, guys, as existing 2100 01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:48,800 Speaker 5: players have, is the spring is your showcase because in 2101 01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:51,280 Speaker 5: the fall, we're bringing the number one class in. They 2102 01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:53,479 Speaker 5: had just signed it because signing days like February. Now 2103 01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:56,280 Speaker 5: it's March springball. He goes, we're bringing the number one 2104 01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:59,400 Speaker 5: class in and we are going to give them the 2105 01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:01,559 Speaker 5: reps and give them the opportunity to beat you out. 2106 01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:04,200 Speaker 5: And so you need to take this time seriously because 2107 01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:06,280 Speaker 5: you're not gonna have as big of an opportunity in 2108 01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:08,439 Speaker 5: the fall. And just to drive home the point, you're 2109 01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:10,360 Speaker 5: gonna sit here and for the next hour, we're gonna 2110 01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:13,240 Speaker 5: put their highlights on film and you have to sit 2111 01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:15,720 Speaker 5: here and watch all of your all of the five 2112 01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:17,799 Speaker 5: star recruits are bringing in you guys, I am bringing 2113 01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:19,760 Speaker 5: them in to take your job, and you're gonna sit 2114 01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:21,400 Speaker 5: here and you're gonna watch their highchool highlights. So we 2115 01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:22,920 Speaker 5: had to sit there for an. 2116 01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:24,679 Speaker 2: Hour tight in that meeting room. 2117 01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:26,000 Speaker 4: Oh my yeah god. 2118 01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:27,960 Speaker 5: So we had to sit there and you know, it's like, okay, 2119 01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:31,960 Speaker 5: running backs. It was coming in Reggie Lendale. We had 2120 01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:33,760 Speaker 5: a guy Chauncey Washington. It was really good running bay 2121 01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:35,760 Speaker 5: you know, tight ends o lineman. And then it gets 2122 01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:38,280 Speaker 5: the safety like it said, five star, number one in 2123 01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:40,559 Speaker 5: the country, rivals number one in the country, this darnel 2124 01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:42,360 Speaker 5: being long Beach Polly and I just sit there for like, 2125 01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:45,040 Speaker 5: you know, five to six minutes and watch you guys highlights, 2126 01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:47,920 Speaker 5: and I'm just sitting there like fuck this motherfucker, like 2127 01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:50,600 Speaker 5: you yeah, fuck like because that like when you're in 2128 01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:56,000 Speaker 5: that like alpha dog, hyper masculine society that is college 2129 01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:59,040 Speaker 5: football or any football, Like it's it's kind of like 2130 01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:01,240 Speaker 5: a fighter's mentality. I'm gonna kill this guy, and like 2131 01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:03,519 Speaker 5: that's that's what he was doing. It was all Pete 2132 01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:07,240 Speaker 5: was so good at the psychological part. And so you 2133 01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:09,800 Speaker 5: know the answer to your question really is like I can't. 2134 01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:12,240 Speaker 5: I don't have any As far as I know, there 2135 01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:14,599 Speaker 5: weren't like alumni handing out money or anything, at least 2136 01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:17,960 Speaker 5: not to me, not to you like but but but 2137 01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:20,680 Speaker 5: it was the way Pete ran the program. It was 2138 01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:24,240 Speaker 5: so intense, it was so high speed, full speed one verse. 2139 01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:27,400 Speaker 5: Once he would he would like proactively tell you you 2140 01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:29,840 Speaker 5: are competing with him, And yet he did it in 2141 01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:32,720 Speaker 5: a way that there wasn't there wasn't open ANIMOSITI. I 2142 01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:34,640 Speaker 5: never looked at Darnell or Troy like I hate you know, 2143 01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:36,559 Speaker 5: those are my those are my guys. Those were my boys, 2144 01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:38,320 Speaker 5: you know, and I and I do the best I 2145 01:30:38,360 --> 01:30:41,320 Speaker 5: can to take that and apply it to the company 2146 01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:41,840 Speaker 5: I get to run. 2147 01:30:42,040 --> 01:30:44,280 Speaker 1: You could talk about you know, celebrities and what not 2148 01:30:44,439 --> 01:30:47,479 Speaker 1: coming out like I think, you know, Kyle graduated right 2149 01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:50,840 Speaker 1: when they were peaking, and you know, the celebrity was 2150 01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:52,640 Speaker 1: coming in, so like Snoop Dogg would come in and 2151 01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:55,639 Speaker 1: drop it like it's how we had a guy freestyle 2152 01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:57,840 Speaker 1: with him in the front, Will Ferrell come in as 2153 01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:00,280 Speaker 1: Ricky Bobby. You know, we had all these guys coming 2154 01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:02,800 Speaker 1: in on the sideline and and whatnot. It kept a 2155 01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:05,799 Speaker 1: loose environment, but you know, kind of like Kyle alluded 2156 01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:10,320 Speaker 1: to it also that what he demanded from us as well. 2157 01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:14,400 Speaker 1: He made it very clear and some of my fondest 2158 01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:16,599 Speaker 1: memories are are just the stretching lines. You know, We'd 2159 01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:20,160 Speaker 1: have Ken Norton and Lane Kiffin and they'd be arguing 2160 01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:26,000 Speaker 1: at each other and and Sarkisian was there, mss why 2161 01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:31,960 Speaker 1: Ed Ozeron was there? But that you know, uh Ken Norton, Ken, 2162 01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:36,360 Speaker 1: because it wasn't just the players. Ken Norton would be saying, Laine, 2163 01:31:36,439 --> 01:31:38,400 Speaker 1: only reason why you got a job is because your daddy. 2164 01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:40,599 Speaker 1: And then Lane would be yelling back, your daddy got 2165 01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:43,840 Speaker 1: knocked out by Ali and he said, my daddy, my 2166 01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:46,920 Speaker 1: daddy broke all these and it was like but and 2167 01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:49,000 Speaker 1: then we went straight into nine on seven, straight in 2168 01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:52,920 Speaker 1: the nine on seven. But like, like I said, there 2169 01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:55,040 Speaker 1: was no animosity. You know, It's like you could tell 2170 01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:56,920 Speaker 1: there was that friction, but it was there was It 2171 01:31:57,000 --> 01:32:00,120 Speaker 1: was always competition. That's every meet and every it was 2172 01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:00,879 Speaker 1: all about competition. 2173 01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:02,920 Speaker 5: And Pete while he was a player's coaching that he 2174 01:32:03,080 --> 01:32:05,240 Speaker 5: is fun like, he was a killer man. He was 2175 01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:07,479 Speaker 5: a businessman and like and if you got in the 2176 01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:10,519 Speaker 5: way of his program, guys would disappear man like, they 2177 01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:12,439 Speaker 5: would get out. I remember because back then there was 2178 01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:15,840 Speaker 5: no transfer portals, nothing, and again, this is my opinion. 2179 01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:18,120 Speaker 5: I can't prove this is like when Pete came in 2180 01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:20,040 Speaker 5: because I actually my freshman year I was with Paul 2181 01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:23,200 Speaker 5: Hackett and then Pete came in and all of a sudden, 2182 01:32:23,439 --> 01:32:25,560 Speaker 5: like guys started disappearing off the roster. He would go 2183 01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:27,400 Speaker 5: to him and say, hey, listen, and this is what 2184 01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:29,600 Speaker 5: I heard. So I'm just is like, hey, you're never 2185 01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:32,479 Speaker 5: going to play here, and so you could do one 2186 01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:34,080 Speaker 5: or two things. You can transfer out, we'll sign your 2187 01:32:34,120 --> 01:32:38,720 Speaker 5: papers like see you later year off. Right, Well, if 2188 01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:40,960 Speaker 5: you transferred, you had to take give or what he 2189 01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:42,599 Speaker 5: did was he went to guys like, hey, you had 2190 01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:44,639 Speaker 5: of shoulder injury, out of knee injury, like you're recovering, 2191 01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:47,680 Speaker 5: will medical you, but will like walk you into the 2192 01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:50,240 Speaker 5: grad school program. Like cause like he came in, He's like, 2193 01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:52,240 Speaker 5: how do I turn this roster around? And I can't 2194 01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:54,519 Speaker 5: wait to do it. Fifteen to twenty scholarships at a 2195 01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:58,040 Speaker 5: time and my first year thirty five forty guys like 2196 01:32:58,200 --> 01:32:59,840 Speaker 5: got cycled through the program at a time that it 2197 01:32:59,960 --> 01:33:02,679 Speaker 5: wasn't as liquid as it is today, like where guys 2198 01:33:02,720 --> 01:33:04,320 Speaker 5: can just come in and out. I mean nowadays, coach 2199 01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:06,320 Speaker 5: are going like, hey, you should transfer because we're not 2200 01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:09,000 Speaker 5: going to play you and go somewhere else. So he's 2201 01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:12,080 Speaker 5: he's a killer and you respect that. But he did 2202 01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:14,680 Speaker 5: it in a way that just, you know, really some 2203 01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:17,120 Speaker 5: of the fondest memories of my life. Like what I 2204 01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:19,160 Speaker 5: don't know, I'd be interested to ask you guys at question, 2205 01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:21,479 Speaker 5: like what do you miss more like playing football or 2206 01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:22,280 Speaker 5: the locker room? 2207 01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:22,720 Speaker 2: Right? 2208 01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:25,360 Speaker 5: Was I missed the locker room? That's what I really miss. 2209 01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:28,200 Speaker 2: The locker room is commercials. 2210 01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:34,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I see Peyton Manning's autograph. There was before J. J. Watt. 2211 01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:35,760 Speaker 1: It was me on the defensive side. 2212 01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:40,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, the uh you brought? You bring up Pete Carroll 2213 01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:42,400 Speaker 4: how like Stern he was in hardcore he was, but 2214 01:33:42,479 --> 01:33:44,200 Speaker 4: how he made it fun like he seemed like a 2215 01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:46,360 Speaker 4: guy that he like made the like the basketball hoop 2216 01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:47,920 Speaker 4: in the team meeting room made that famous. Like what 2217 01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:49,840 Speaker 4: were some of the things he did to keep it 2218 01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:51,880 Speaker 4: Like because my short time I got to me, I 2219 01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:55,320 Speaker 4: went to a junior camp at USC and it was 2220 01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:57,160 Speaker 4: like I saw him in the first time I met him. 2221 01:33:57,200 --> 01:33:58,559 Speaker 4: He gives me a hug and I'm like, this guy's 2222 01:33:58,560 --> 01:33:59,840 Speaker 4: the fuck. He just had that energy. 2223 01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:02,720 Speaker 5: He's just built different. He has energy that I don't have, 2224 01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:05,000 Speaker 5: and like he just I think he was born that way. 2225 01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:06,760 Speaker 5: That is not an act, Like he is a high 2226 01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:10,760 Speaker 5: energy positivity guy. I'll I'll give you some examples, and 2227 01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:12,840 Speaker 5: maybe it changed by the time Clay got there. Like 2228 01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:16,040 Speaker 5: you know, it's the middle of camp and you're you know, 2229 01:34:16,160 --> 01:34:18,200 Speaker 5: you're what are the twenty eight days in camp and 2230 01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:20,720 Speaker 5: it's day eighteen, Like you're just in the shit, right 2231 01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:23,800 Speaker 5: and your your body's banged up and you're going hard, 2232 01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:27,320 Speaker 5: and Pete's like, hey, like, you know, for practice in 2233 01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:28,800 Speaker 5: the morning, practice in the afternoon. So at the end 2234 01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:32,160 Speaker 5: of the first practice he I don't know if he 2235 01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:35,160 Speaker 5: manufacturing really felt like this, but it was supposed to 2236 01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:37,240 Speaker 5: be full pads in the morning, like shells in the afternoon, 2237 01:34:37,320 --> 01:34:40,280 Speaker 5: so full pads, and you know, at the end of practice, 2238 01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:42,439 Speaker 5: he's like that was a bullshit pro don't like the energy. 2239 01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:46,080 Speaker 5: This is bs like just ripping us, you know which, again, 2240 01:34:46,120 --> 01:34:48,200 Speaker 5: that wasn't normally his go to sow. He did it 2241 01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:50,920 Speaker 5: more than probably the normal fans would think, but like 2242 01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:53,840 Speaker 5: it was like and maybe we were dragon asks, so 2243 01:34:53,960 --> 01:34:55,559 Speaker 5: we get He's like, you know what, because we're going 2244 01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:59,560 Speaker 5: full pads this afternoon, hitting drills, tackling, live everything. We're like, 2245 01:34:59,680 --> 01:35:03,120 Speaker 5: oh no, and so he brings us out. In the 2246 01:35:03,160 --> 01:35:06,519 Speaker 5: second practice, we start doing the stretch lines and he 2247 01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:08,479 Speaker 5: like calls us up and he goes, guys like I 2248 01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:10,240 Speaker 5: need to be able to trust you, and I'm paraphrasing 2249 01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:12,000 Speaker 5: I need to be able to trust you, Like I 2250 01:35:12,160 --> 01:35:13,560 Speaker 5: was not happy with this. So I'm gonna give you 2251 01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:16,240 Speaker 5: an option. Either we go hard and like do this 2252 01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:19,000 Speaker 5: the right way, or we get on some fucking busses 2253 01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:21,120 Speaker 5: and go to the beach. And there are busses lined 2254 01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:24,800 Speaker 5: out right outside practice, and we all get on the 2255 01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:26,639 Speaker 5: bus in our full pads and go to Manhattan Beach 2256 01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:27,439 Speaker 5: and go to the beach. 2257 01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:31,240 Speaker 1: That day like yeah, movies, We go watch the beach 2258 01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:34,200 Speaker 1: volleyball man and just stuff in the meeting room too. 2259 01:35:34,240 --> 01:35:36,479 Speaker 1: I can't remember why, but we always were shooting water 2260 01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:38,880 Speaker 1: up in there, guys taking their shirts off, swinging them around. 2261 01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:40,600 Speaker 1: I don't know why, but like we just that was 2262 01:35:40,640 --> 01:35:42,960 Speaker 1: it every meeting. Hey, they always call people up to 2263 01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:44,960 Speaker 1: make fun of other people, like what you do with raves, 2264 01:35:45,080 --> 01:35:47,439 Speaker 1: Like I always they called me up. All that's because 2265 01:35:47,439 --> 01:35:49,000 Speaker 1: I was just the walk on it the time, like 2266 01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:51,120 Speaker 1: nobody and then you know, like they would call people 2267 01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:52,600 Speaker 1: up to make fun of others. They do one on 2268 01:35:52,720 --> 01:35:55,080 Speaker 1: ones watching people get cooked or whatnot up, so like 2269 01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:57,200 Speaker 1: they always promoted that environment. 2270 01:35:57,840 --> 01:36:00,960 Speaker 5: I'll get you on that team meeting, so like we 2271 01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:03,400 Speaker 5: might have to cut this just because I like this guy, 2272 01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:07,280 Speaker 5: but we would come in, we would destroy him. 2273 01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:10,960 Speaker 4: No, no, no, we're having fun. 2274 01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:13,400 Speaker 5: We would come in and like to Clay's point, like 2275 01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:18,120 Speaker 5: there is this It started my sophomore junior or like 2276 01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:22,240 Speaker 5: the meeting room coach O was getting mad about something 2277 01:36:22,280 --> 01:36:24,800 Speaker 5: and he smashes a projector with his fist and like 2278 01:36:25,160 --> 01:36:27,400 Speaker 5: these are projectors, Like I'm getting old here and he 2279 01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:30,280 Speaker 5: smashes it and throws it, and then like we're getting hyped. 2280 01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:35,680 Speaker 5: So Kennedy Pola, this big salmon running back coach, he 2281 01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:38,439 Speaker 5: played running back, just awesome guy. Like he takes a 2282 01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:41,040 Speaker 5: chair and throws it through this window because they're like 2283 01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:44,120 Speaker 5: Florida ceiling windows like twelve feet tall and throws it 2284 01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:47,040 Speaker 5: through the window and we're sitting like what has happened? 2285 01:36:47,080 --> 01:36:49,360 Speaker 5: So then that became kind of like whenever they felt 2286 01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:51,439 Speaker 5: like we would just start getting hyped and throwing water 2287 01:36:51,520 --> 01:36:53,760 Speaker 5: and so Kennedy pulled the start of the thing, like 2288 01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:55,320 Speaker 5: what's the first thing you do before you get in 2289 01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:57,400 Speaker 5: a fight? You know, it's like take your shirts up. 2290 01:36:57,439 --> 01:36:59,400 Speaker 5: So everyone takes their shirts off. We start like pushing 2291 01:36:59,439 --> 01:37:00,200 Speaker 5: each other and like. 2292 01:37:02,200 --> 01:37:03,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. 2293 01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:06,080 Speaker 5: And then he's like, then there's this chance, like wartime, 2294 01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:08,000 Speaker 5: it's time to go to war, like we're gonna take 2295 01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:09,240 Speaker 5: it outside, Like what do you do? You take your 2296 01:37:09,280 --> 01:37:10,880 Speaker 5: shirt off? Like let's go outside. We're about to get 2297 01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:12,200 Speaker 5: in a fight. That was our chant like back when 2298 01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:15,400 Speaker 5: we were winning. I don't think it is anymore. You know, 2299 01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:18,360 Speaker 5: Lincoln might need to bring it back, but my point 2300 01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:21,920 Speaker 5: is so then, so he started getting more hyped, and 2301 01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:24,200 Speaker 5: every every meeting got more and more hyped. It wasn't 2302 01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:27,519 Speaker 5: you know to eventually like you took your shirt off, 2303 01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:30,800 Speaker 5: like everybody's taking their shirts off. And then we had 2304 01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:34,000 Speaker 5: a linebacker coach Coach Holt Nick Hole, he was your coach. 2305 01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:36,759 Speaker 5: He ended up going to coach Idaho for a minute. 2306 01:37:37,320 --> 01:37:39,560 Speaker 5: He got so hyped up. One time he took his 2307 01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:41,800 Speaker 5: shirt off in front of the whole team. Then he 2308 01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:48,200 Speaker 5: took his pants off, all of it, underwear, no shit, 2309 01:37:48,320 --> 01:37:50,439 Speaker 5: and he's jumping around butt ass naked. 2310 01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:54,600 Speaker 4: Everyone's like, yeah, let's fuck whoa. 2311 01:37:56,520 --> 01:37:58,360 Speaker 5: And like he's like, what too too much? It's like 2312 01:37:58,720 --> 01:38:01,679 Speaker 5: dog but they like and it was like what just happened? 2313 01:38:02,120 --> 01:38:03,760 Speaker 4: He was grown man, he just. 2314 01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:07,080 Speaker 5: He just he got into that like mannic alpha where 2315 01:38:07,080 --> 01:38:07,519 Speaker 5: he went. 2316 01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:12,640 Speaker 4: Barely legal kids. Yeah, and I was like, all right, 2317 01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:13,479 Speaker 4: Like after that. 2318 01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:15,599 Speaker 5: We we we agreed there was there was a limit 2319 01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:16,960 Speaker 5: to the high we gotta draw. 2320 01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:19,880 Speaker 4: Was the next meeting Peter Klby like, hey, we can 2321 01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:21,599 Speaker 4: get excited, but let's keep our world. 2322 01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:23,960 Speaker 5: Probably like Pete had a great way to roll with it. 2323 01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:25,679 Speaker 5: But that's when I was like, all right, this place 2324 01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:27,000 Speaker 5: is crazy, dude. 2325 01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:28,320 Speaker 2: What happened? 2326 01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:31,040 Speaker 5: It was just it was just next level and then 2327 01:38:31,160 --> 01:38:33,080 Speaker 5: uh then Nancy double A came in and killed it. 2328 01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:37,040 Speaker 4: So did you ever go to Reggie Bush's house in 2329 01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:38,040 Speaker 4: Malibu in college? 2330 01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:38,400 Speaker 9: No? 2331 01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:39,000 Speaker 5: I did not. 2332 01:38:39,120 --> 01:38:40,559 Speaker 4: Did he have a house in alb I think that's 2333 01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:44,639 Speaker 4: what he had that he had cars? Story agen The only. 2334 01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:47,920 Speaker 1: Thing I got, honestly, I never saw I never saw money, 2335 01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:49,920 Speaker 1: you know, I've never seen any of that. But uh, 2336 01:38:50,280 --> 01:38:53,439 Speaker 1: I got two free RB's roast beef sandwiches in the valley. 2337 01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:55,240 Speaker 1: That was the only thing I got in my five 2338 01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:58,120 Speaker 1: years at s C, I got nothing. So all this stuff, 2339 01:38:58,200 --> 01:38:59,680 Speaker 1: where are these guys getting? They get free, you know, 2340 01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:02,439 Speaker 1: Redace hundreds of thousand of dollars. I just maybe I 2341 01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:03,760 Speaker 1: was just have my head in the sand, but that 2342 01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:04,960 Speaker 1: went over mine. 2343 01:39:05,200 --> 01:39:08,320 Speaker 2: We interrupt this episode to bring you Kevin's Natural food 2344 01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:11,400 Speaker 2: This is honestly a reminder. Right now, I am pissed 2345 01:39:11,640 --> 01:39:14,599 Speaker 2: that I left my I made some kevin Zetral foods. 2346 01:39:14,640 --> 01:39:16,519 Speaker 2: I made the chicken Tika Marsala, left it on my 2347 01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:18,439 Speaker 2: dining room table before I came to work today. But 2348 01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:20,880 Speaker 2: if you want a delicious protein pac meal on the 2349 01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:23,760 Speaker 2: table in under five minutes, Kevin's Natural Foods, heat and 2350 01:39:23,880 --> 01:39:27,360 Speaker 2: serve entrees are your MVP. 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They got 2379 01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:45,840 Speaker 2: all the varieties, They got all the varieties. I gotta 2380 01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:47,360 Speaker 2: tell you, you guys are gonna love this shit. 2381 01:40:47,439 --> 01:40:49,080 Speaker 4: You better get there fast because they might not have 2382 01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:50,720 Speaker 4: all the varieties. Ause people might come there and start 2383 01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:52,519 Speaker 4: buying all the varieties and you'll only have one or 2384 01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:54,280 Speaker 4: two varieties when you want all. 2385 01:40:54,240 --> 01:40:57,639 Speaker 2: The especially when they listen to this sad read. Go shop, 2386 01:40:57,920 --> 01:41:00,240 Speaker 2: go right now, Kevin's Natural Foods. It's all I gotta 2387 01:41:00,280 --> 01:41:02,880 Speaker 2: say back to Bro, you you were part of the 2388 01:41:03,320 --> 01:41:06,160 Speaker 2: I wouldn't even say, arguably the best linebacker room of all. 2389 01:41:06,080 --> 01:41:06,880 Speaker 4: Time, of all time. 2390 01:41:07,840 --> 01:41:10,599 Speaker 5: Facts you Ma Lugava. 2391 01:41:11,080 --> 01:41:15,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, we went Keith that senior class. Yeah, and then 2392 01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:17,680 Speaker 1: what Keith was older was a year He was a 2393 01:41:17,760 --> 01:41:19,640 Speaker 1: year older, so he went ninth though, but I was 2394 01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:22,840 Speaker 1: even there. Lofa was second round. But yeah, my senior 2395 01:41:22,920 --> 01:41:27,320 Speaker 1: year was me and Cush went first round and Ray right, 2396 01:41:27,320 --> 01:41:29,160 Speaker 1: he should have gone, well, you're supposed to go first. 2397 01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:32,160 Speaker 1: And then Mayava went fourth to the Browns. We had 2398 01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:34,360 Speaker 1: a good I think we finished first, first, second, second 2399 01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:37,679 Speaker 1: and all the postseason lads and whatnot. 2400 01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:41,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, had phenomenal. Chris had a great career, even 2401 01:41:41,280 --> 01:41:44,040 Speaker 5: Koluka like he started he was playing six seven years. Yeah, 2402 01:41:44,040 --> 01:41:45,920 Speaker 5: I think baby old or something. Yeah, that's what it was. 2403 01:41:46,040 --> 01:41:46,920 Speaker 5: But that was a great team. 2404 01:41:47,080 --> 01:41:49,439 Speaker 2: How was I was cush in college because he seems 2405 01:41:49,479 --> 01:41:51,559 Speaker 2: like he was my favor He's my favorite Jersey boy. 2406 01:41:51,720 --> 01:41:52,639 Speaker 1: He was my favorite. 2407 01:41:53,560 --> 01:41:55,200 Speaker 4: You just have that thing. And when they're playing the 2408 01:41:55,240 --> 01:41:57,559 Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns and he runs face first and the officsive 2409 01:41:57,600 --> 01:42:01,200 Speaker 4: lineman face blood full or Facebook. 2410 01:42:01,439 --> 01:42:04,000 Speaker 1: We would be in like coaching Norton with Ken Norton, 2411 01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:07,840 Speaker 1: be you know, in meetings and it'd be like lunchtime 2412 01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:10,120 Speaker 1: and I'd need like a turkey burger with fries, trying 2413 01:42:10,160 --> 01:42:12,439 Speaker 1: to be healthy, and this guy like you know or something, 2414 01:42:13,240 --> 01:42:15,840 Speaker 1: and then you see his little watch go off, click it, 2415 01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:19,320 Speaker 1: reach underneath out, pull out his like customized meal and 2416 01:42:19,479 --> 01:42:22,519 Speaker 1: pills and whatnot. He was just he was dialed in. 2417 01:42:22,800 --> 01:42:24,800 Speaker 1: But I love that guy. He's still one of my 2418 01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:27,000 Speaker 1: best friends, says Dad. I wish we could have played again, 2419 01:42:27,680 --> 01:42:29,920 Speaker 1: still keeping touch, but yeah, he was a monster, and 2420 01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:31,880 Speaker 1: I think he helped elevate that room because of his 2421 01:42:32,800 --> 01:42:35,439 Speaker 1: Jersey tough mentality. He was about he was about that, 2422 01:42:35,640 --> 01:42:36,080 Speaker 1: like he was. 2423 01:42:36,040 --> 01:42:37,200 Speaker 4: About that actually yea, yeah. 2424 01:42:37,080 --> 01:42:39,519 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah he and Clay knows him super well. But 2425 01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:40,960 Speaker 5: like I was thinking, the last time I hung out 2426 01:42:41,000 --> 01:42:44,519 Speaker 5: with Cush, we were in Miami and we're down there 2427 01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:46,200 Speaker 5: for the Pro Bowl. Clay's in the Pro Bowl and 2428 01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:49,400 Speaker 5: so we're me, Clay, my brother Casey, and Cush. We're 2429 01:42:49,439 --> 01:42:50,960 Speaker 5: out and we're having a good time. But it's like, 2430 01:42:51,080 --> 01:42:53,360 Speaker 5: you know, like it's like midnight one am. Like I'm 2431 01:42:53,439 --> 01:42:55,720 Speaker 5: getting tired, man, We're like grown ups. And Coach like, 2432 01:42:55,760 --> 01:42:57,880 Speaker 5: come on, Like we're in Fort Lauderdale, which is about 2433 01:42:58,000 --> 01:43:00,840 Speaker 5: an hour north of Miami. Coach like, let's go to Miami. 2434 01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:02,439 Speaker 5: There's a there's a party at a club Miami. My 2435 01:43:02,479 --> 01:43:05,599 Speaker 5: teammates from the Texans. Andre Johnson is from Miami. He's 2436 01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:06,800 Speaker 5: throwing a party over this. 2437 01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:09,640 Speaker 1: It was we were the only white police. 2438 01:43:12,520 --> 01:43:13,080 Speaker 4: Were outside. 2439 01:43:13,160 --> 01:43:16,559 Speaker 5: We're outside this club. We're with Uh it was Ray Lewis, 2440 01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:19,640 Speaker 5: it was a Dan Hendo Henderson. We're sitting outside and 2441 01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:21,560 Speaker 5: I'm like, no, dude, let's go do I'm tire, Like 2442 01:43:21,640 --> 01:43:23,200 Speaker 5: go home, like no, come on, like what do I 2443 01:43:23,240 --> 01:43:25,320 Speaker 5: gotta do? And I swear to god you look down 2444 01:43:25,400 --> 01:43:27,280 Speaker 5: and I don't know that in the curve there was 2445 01:43:27,320 --> 01:43:29,280 Speaker 5: a one dollar bill in like a dirty curt like 2446 01:43:29,400 --> 01:43:32,160 Speaker 5: in like gutter water. And I was like, you eat 2447 01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:34,400 Speaker 5: that one dollar bill and Cush is like what. I 2448 01:43:34,479 --> 01:43:36,080 Speaker 5: was like, eat that one dollar bill. We'll go to Miami. 2449 01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:39,519 Speaker 5: So Cush rolls up, he eats a gut like a 2450 01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:42,600 Speaker 5: gut or water one dollar bill and he goes. I 2451 01:43:42,720 --> 01:43:44,080 Speaker 5: was like, Miami. 2452 01:43:45,160 --> 01:43:47,160 Speaker 4: So we go down to Miami. Hold up, that's better. 2453 01:43:47,320 --> 01:43:47,760 Speaker 2: We go down. 2454 01:43:47,800 --> 01:43:50,640 Speaker 5: We don't really understand the context of this party. So 2455 01:43:50,800 --> 01:43:53,320 Speaker 5: we roll in. It's a nightclub Andre Johnson, and the 2456 01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:56,320 Speaker 5: entire you is throwing it in like you know, like 2457 01:43:57,160 --> 01:44:00,160 Speaker 5: Coral Gables or Brickle or somewhere down there. And we 2458 01:44:00,280 --> 01:44:04,040 Speaker 5: walk into Clay's point it look this is not you know, 2459 01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:06,160 Speaker 5: it's like, well the only white dudes there and like, 2460 01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:08,040 Speaker 5: which is finely Like We're like, oh, this is fun, 2461 01:44:08,080 --> 01:44:11,280 Speaker 5: and Cushing we go up. They have a table for us. 2462 01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:13,679 Speaker 5: We're you know, we're wapping up some people. 2463 01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:13,960 Speaker 2: We know. 2464 01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:16,840 Speaker 5: Cush disappears years over there. 2465 01:44:16,920 --> 01:44:19,519 Speaker 1: Mario Williams dapping them up in the middle of the 2466 01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:19,960 Speaker 1: two in. 2467 01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:22,400 Speaker 5: The dance floor, so listen, we have so they're just 2468 01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:24,400 Speaker 5: down there, so hold on, hold on, it gets it 2469 01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:24,880 Speaker 5: gets better. 2470 01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:28,040 Speaker 4: Left. Yeah, this is a Cush story. So like again, 2471 01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:28,720 Speaker 4: like Clay, you. 2472 01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:30,800 Speaker 5: Made the decision. If we edit this out. I think 2473 01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:32,639 Speaker 5: this makes it. I think this makes it look makes 2474 01:44:32,680 --> 01:44:36,120 Speaker 5: them look even better. But he disappears and they're bringing 2475 01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:37,960 Speaker 5: bottles and bottles and bottles. We're not drinking, like it's 2476 01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:41,000 Speaker 5: again now it's two three am, and like the Matthews 2477 01:44:41,080 --> 01:44:44,400 Speaker 5: were like, let's go home. Well anyway, all of a sudden, 2478 01:44:44,400 --> 01:44:45,519 Speaker 5: we're like, hey, we're gonna havead ou He's like, well, 2479 01:44:45,520 --> 01:44:47,880 Speaker 5: who's paying for this bill? And it's like this is 2480 01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:50,600 Speaker 5: ten thousand dollars? Like what anyone else? It's Cushing. So 2481 01:44:50,880 --> 01:44:52,960 Speaker 5: Cushing had left his credit card on the table. 2482 01:44:53,040 --> 01:44:53,519 Speaker 2: That's fine. 2483 01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:56,400 Speaker 5: Cush had like a twenty five hundred dollars limit on 2484 01:44:56,479 --> 01:45:01,560 Speaker 5: his credit card. Boys, I got this any worry, Like 2485 01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:05,080 Speaker 5: he's disappeared, he has his credit card, can't pay for anything, 2486 01:45:05,120 --> 01:45:06,960 Speaker 5: and we're like we're not paying for it, and like 2487 01:45:07,000 --> 01:45:09,840 Speaker 5: they're like, someone's paying for it. And so finally we 2488 01:45:10,400 --> 01:45:13,320 Speaker 5: got the guy to Andre Johnson comes over, it's his party. 2489 01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:15,400 Speaker 1: I think it was like his somebody I got it. 2490 01:45:15,479 --> 01:45:15,920 Speaker 2: I got it. 2491 01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:18,360 Speaker 5: And then we always said hey to Andre Johns, you 2492 01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:20,559 Speaker 5: got to go track Cush down to get the money. 2493 01:45:20,600 --> 01:45:21,320 Speaker 5: And he got the money. 2494 01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:24,200 Speaker 4: But like that was cause was Cush. 2495 01:45:24,680 --> 01:45:26,960 Speaker 1: Oh he just disappeared. He just disappeared. He was down 2496 01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:31,960 Speaker 1: there amongst the crowd, just where he was. Cush told 2497 01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:33,880 Speaker 1: me the story. He said like, yeah, yeah, I got you. 2498 01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:35,560 Speaker 1: And then like it was like a month later and 2499 01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:39,320 Speaker 1: somebody rolled up on me. You had to like running ship, Yeah, 2500 01:45:39,400 --> 01:45:40,280 Speaker 1: hey you got that money. 2501 01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:45,200 Speaker 5: Somebody rolled up and was like, hey, like where's the money? Yeah, 2502 01:45:46,240 --> 01:45:49,280 Speaker 5: you know Cush is is that guy that's not an act? 2503 01:45:49,439 --> 01:45:50,639 Speaker 5: Like he's a savage. 2504 01:45:50,760 --> 01:45:52,840 Speaker 4: You know, he had to be crazy. 2505 01:45:53,439 --> 01:45:56,479 Speaker 2: I mean it was my entire motivation inspiration, like in 2506 01:45:56,600 --> 01:45:58,439 Speaker 2: my high school days, like my dad and my dad 2507 01:45:58,560 --> 01:46:00,760 Speaker 2: was pretty psychotic with me as a kid. But you 2508 01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:03,040 Speaker 2: were the walk on story Cush. I had to do 2509 01:46:03,160 --> 01:46:06,000 Speaker 2: all my dad would buy all the DiFranco tapes. I 2510 01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:08,120 Speaker 2: would have to do all the Franco method that Cush 2511 01:46:08,120 --> 01:46:11,240 Speaker 2: would do. I mean, Cuss got that you know, diabolical 2512 01:46:11,320 --> 01:46:13,160 Speaker 2: before and after photo with when he was going through 2513 01:46:13,240 --> 01:46:14,800 Speaker 2: labor and surgery, and then all of a sudden, he's 2514 01:46:14,840 --> 01:46:16,600 Speaker 2: like flexing with you. You guys are both flucked in 2515 01:46:16,720 --> 01:46:19,360 Speaker 2: the classroom. And then Rave Malugu was my lock screen. 2516 01:46:19,439 --> 01:46:22,120 Speaker 2: So I was all sc linebackers, Why didn't you go there? 2517 01:46:22,800 --> 01:46:24,280 Speaker 2: I wasn't good enough. I didn't get an offer. 2518 01:46:24,920 --> 01:46:25,479 Speaker 1: What year was that? 2519 01:46:26,080 --> 01:46:28,080 Speaker 2: Eight was the classic? And I think that was I 2520 01:46:28,160 --> 01:46:30,000 Speaker 2: think that was Tyron Smith? Is Tyron Smith? 2521 01:46:30,040 --> 01:46:32,400 Speaker 1: What lineback? Who was like Chris Capo or who? 2522 01:46:32,760 --> 01:46:32,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? 2523 01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:34,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because my. 2524 01:46:34,240 --> 01:46:35,400 Speaker 2: Brother he was a five star. 2525 01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:38,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, my brother came out. Uh he might have been 2526 01:46:38,240 --> 01:46:40,040 Speaker 1: like a three or four star, my younger brother and 2527 01:46:42,280 --> 01:46:45,479 Speaker 1: sea Yeah, well I don't know was there. Well anyways, 2528 01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:47,880 Speaker 1: eight they passed on him, and uh so he went 2529 01:46:47,960 --> 01:46:49,600 Speaker 1: up to Oregon and obviously Organ had played in the 2530 01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:52,920 Speaker 1: National Championship ever losing to Cam Newton. But after like 2531 01:46:52,920 --> 01:46:54,840 Speaker 1: the first year, did you brother want to transfer back 2532 01:46:54,880 --> 01:46:56,400 Speaker 1: to USC You missed? 2533 01:46:56,600 --> 01:46:59,519 Speaker 2: You missed the boat was supposed to keep in the family. 2534 01:47:00,040 --> 01:47:02,840 Speaker 4: What he is doing. I have a vivid memory of 2535 01:47:03,200 --> 01:47:05,880 Speaker 4: It's like week six or seven, No, probably the first 2536 01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:07,920 Speaker 4: couple of weeks of my rookie year. And I'm not 2537 01:47:08,040 --> 01:47:11,160 Speaker 4: starting but I'm watching Ray Montoluga on the Bengals, and 2538 01:47:11,280 --> 01:47:12,840 Speaker 4: we had a whole game plan of like, hey, we 2539 01:47:12,840 --> 01:47:14,760 Speaker 4: got hit the perimeter on these guys. So we were 2540 01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:16,960 Speaker 4: watching a b of pin pool things with tackles going out, 2541 01:47:17,360 --> 01:47:19,280 Speaker 4: and there's a clip from the Ravens where Ray did 2542 01:47:19,360 --> 01:47:21,640 Speaker 4: not give a fuck about making the tackle. He was 2543 01:47:21,800 --> 01:47:24,920 Speaker 4: just murdering and left right then. And I sat in 2544 01:47:24,920 --> 01:47:26,080 Speaker 4: that me room, I was like, I pray to God, 2545 01:47:26,120 --> 01:47:28,400 Speaker 4: nobody gets he was playing. 2546 01:47:28,240 --> 01:47:31,240 Speaker 1: As a as a freshman at at USC. They put 2547 01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:33,760 Speaker 1: him on kickoff like L five R five. He run 2548 01:47:33,920 --> 01:47:36,560 Speaker 1: down there, biggest head ever too, and neck and he 2549 01:47:36,600 --> 01:47:39,439 Speaker 1: would just just lead with his head and just knock 2550 01:47:39,560 --> 01:47:41,599 Speaker 1: pel out and he would just get up. I mean 2551 01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:44,160 Speaker 1: he was like you would think he was just straight 2552 01:47:44,160 --> 01:47:46,200 Speaker 1: from the island, like you brought him over like like 2553 01:47:46,360 --> 01:47:48,160 Speaker 1: Maui you know Demi. 2554 01:47:48,200 --> 01:47:51,840 Speaker 2: God, Yeah, he was like before this, like when we 2555 01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:55,680 Speaker 2: were talking about my Luga. His body like everybody has 2556 01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:57,639 Speaker 2: like a reaction when they're making a big hit, like Ray, 2557 01:47:57,800 --> 01:48:00,800 Speaker 2: his body just always stayed so compact. Yeah, his body 2558 01:48:00,880 --> 01:48:03,800 Speaker 2: never moved when he made a big There's no like people. 2559 01:48:03,920 --> 01:48:04,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, he was just a. 2560 01:48:04,680 --> 01:48:07,320 Speaker 1: Really stout Yeah, he would Yeah, he would have been perfect. 2561 01:48:07,400 --> 01:48:09,400 Speaker 1: He probably could have lied. I mean still played for 2562 01:48:09,520 --> 01:48:12,240 Speaker 1: several years, but he probably you know that rate, you know, 2563 01:48:12,600 --> 01:48:15,880 Speaker 1: late nineties early two thousand generation of inside linebackers who 2564 01:48:15,920 --> 01:48:19,720 Speaker 1: just needed to run downhill? Yeah that man, that that 2565 01:48:19,960 --> 01:48:21,920 Speaker 1: h u s. The U c l A highlight that 2566 01:48:22,040 --> 01:48:25,360 Speaker 1: just popped up right there right now is yeah, we 2567 01:48:25,479 --> 01:48:27,000 Speaker 1: ended up I think losing this game. We would have 2568 01:48:27,000 --> 01:48:28,120 Speaker 1: gone to the National Championship. 2569 01:48:28,240 --> 01:48:31,040 Speaker 5: But that quarterbacks in real estate, he reached out all 2570 01:48:31,160 --> 01:48:35,960 Speaker 5: the time. I think his murdering. So his name is 2571 01:48:36,040 --> 01:48:37,800 Speaker 5: Patrick Cowan. I think he's done well in real estate, 2572 01:48:37,840 --> 01:48:39,720 Speaker 5: so well reach out and it's like, man, how's your head? 2573 01:48:40,080 --> 01:48:40,240 Speaker 4: You know? 2574 01:48:43,400 --> 01:48:46,559 Speaker 2: Sage Killer? Is that that running back? Three bar face 2575 01:48:46,640 --> 01:48:47,080 Speaker 2: mass too? 2576 01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:49,880 Speaker 4: That Robal? Is that true hate Week? 2577 01:48:51,680 --> 01:48:56,040 Speaker 1: Honestly, they haven't been that unlike Michigan Ohio State. You guys, 2578 01:48:56,240 --> 01:48:58,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, you like have had so much sustained 2579 01:48:58,240 --> 01:49:00,760 Speaker 1: success that U c l A has kind of. At 2580 01:49:00,840 --> 01:49:02,799 Speaker 1: least when I was there, they had fallen off completely. 2581 01:49:02,880 --> 01:49:04,280 Speaker 1: They weren't even a top twenty five I think my 2582 01:49:04,320 --> 01:49:05,760 Speaker 1: first year two thousand and four, they were like a 2583 01:49:05,920 --> 01:49:08,960 Speaker 1: like a teen's team, maybe top ten but I think 2584 01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:11,320 Speaker 1: we beat on like seventy to something that was like 2585 01:49:11,360 --> 01:49:14,560 Speaker 1: Reggie Bushes I had secured his heisman, but it was 2586 01:49:14,680 --> 01:49:17,040 Speaker 1: it was fun, but it always felt like the second 2587 01:49:17,160 --> 01:49:19,800 Speaker 1: tier of of like a bath went to U c. 2588 01:49:20,040 --> 01:49:20,200 Speaker 9: L A. 2589 01:49:20,439 --> 01:49:22,720 Speaker 1: Now that's obviously changed because they're both kind of right 2590 01:49:23,240 --> 01:49:26,080 Speaker 1: at least at this point that mediocrity, but at the time, 2591 01:49:26,200 --> 01:49:29,240 Speaker 1: like it was more Notre Dame, and to be honest, 2592 01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:31,240 Speaker 1: was so good. At the time, it was whatever the 2593 01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:32,479 Speaker 1: best team wants national team. 2594 01:49:32,680 --> 01:49:34,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was the best team was like we can't 2595 01:49:34,200 --> 01:49:35,160 Speaker 4: wait Sahoma. 2596 01:49:35,240 --> 01:49:37,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, brutal before instant replayed Vince Young. 2597 01:49:40,400 --> 01:49:42,080 Speaker 1: You you you were in I was. I was in 2598 01:49:42,160 --> 01:49:42,840 Speaker 1: the Vince Young one. 2599 01:49:43,000 --> 01:49:44,400 Speaker 2: You were in the Vince Young one? Oh yeah, because 2600 01:49:44,400 --> 01:49:45,640 Speaker 2: that was that was like it. 2601 01:49:45,680 --> 01:49:50,360 Speaker 1: Was five seasons. Yeah, it's just it's tough. Yeah, but 2602 01:49:50,400 --> 01:49:53,040 Speaker 1: I wouldn't like, yeah, it wasn't that difficult for maybe 2603 01:49:53,120 --> 01:49:55,000 Speaker 1: because I was just on like two special teams. Just 2604 01:49:55,040 --> 01:49:58,240 Speaker 1: to I may be completely candid, it sucked. But the 2605 01:49:58,400 --> 01:50:02,280 Speaker 1: next year we played Michigan. Michigan was I just go aheading. 2606 01:50:02,320 --> 01:50:04,840 Speaker 1: The story Michigan was was rolled like they had a 2607 01:50:05,840 --> 01:50:10,840 Speaker 1: man blanket on the left long heart Manningham Henny, Yeah, 2608 01:50:10,920 --> 01:50:14,680 Speaker 1: and uh beat them up pretty good. And then the 2609 01:50:14,760 --> 01:50:17,720 Speaker 1: next year we're up pretty good. Illinois, we got after them. 2610 01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:19,519 Speaker 1: And then last year was Joe Paterno's Penn Stay we 2611 01:50:19,560 --> 01:50:19,920 Speaker 1: played in. 2612 01:50:19,960 --> 01:50:23,479 Speaker 2: For Illinois was at the Rose. You guys crushed a 2613 01:50:23,520 --> 01:50:24,439 Speaker 2: big game on that one too. 2614 01:50:24,520 --> 01:50:24,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 2615 01:50:25,040 --> 01:50:27,559 Speaker 5: Yeah, there was a period. Yeah, there's a period there 2616 01:50:27,720 --> 01:50:31,080 Speaker 5: against the Big ten and the sec where and in 2617 01:50:31,200 --> 01:50:32,680 Speaker 5: fact checked me, I don't think we lost for like 2618 01:50:32,760 --> 01:50:35,760 Speaker 5: six seven years, you know, outside of Texas and the 2619 01:50:35,800 --> 01:50:38,400 Speaker 5: Big twelve. Like I know, my senior year we went. 2620 01:50:38,320 --> 01:50:40,680 Speaker 1: Down to Auburn and rolled in the Habraska. 2621 01:50:40,320 --> 01:50:41,759 Speaker 5: To Auburn had Cadillac Williams. 2622 01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:44,200 Speaker 1: N uh. 2623 01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:47,960 Speaker 2: My official visit to Nebraska is when you guys, you 2624 01:50:48,080 --> 01:50:50,960 Speaker 2: guys came to Nebraska, it's like forty eight to I 2625 01:50:51,040 --> 01:50:51,799 Speaker 2: remember seeing. 2626 01:50:51,600 --> 01:50:55,080 Speaker 1: It was that two eight. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I 2627 01:50:55,160 --> 01:50:57,240 Speaker 1: started that game. I broke my thumb and had to 2628 01:50:57,280 --> 01:50:57,960 Speaker 1: come out. Dude. 2629 01:50:57,960 --> 01:51:03,439 Speaker 2: It was down there, Nebraska. Yeah, they killed us. Obviously 2630 01:51:03,520 --> 01:51:05,479 Speaker 2: we had thirty one, but forty twenty one of them 2631 01:51:05,520 --> 01:51:07,600 Speaker 2: were in the fourth quarter, so that the guys, like 2632 01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:10,519 Speaker 2: I remember seeing Taylor Mays pre game, Taylor Mays just 2633 01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:10,880 Speaker 2: staying in. 2634 01:51:10,960 --> 01:51:14,880 Speaker 5: Taylor game, just a SC won half their games before 2635 01:51:14,960 --> 01:51:16,120 Speaker 5: the games just because of Taylor. 2636 01:51:16,360 --> 01:51:19,280 Speaker 1: Is like what Ron ron Zuck was the head coach 2637 01:51:19,280 --> 01:51:22,160 Speaker 1: of Illinois at the time. He was our special teams 2638 01:51:22,200 --> 01:51:23,880 Speaker 1: coach for a few years in Green Bays. And we 2639 01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:25,639 Speaker 1: when we when we took the field and you guys 2640 01:51:25,680 --> 01:51:26,479 Speaker 1: are out there, it was over. 2641 01:51:27,120 --> 01:51:27,479 Speaker 2: It was over. 2642 01:51:27,560 --> 01:51:29,439 Speaker 1: It was over. Like we we were just in awe, 2643 01:51:29,680 --> 01:51:30,560 Speaker 1: you know, and that was it. 2644 01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:35,599 Speaker 4: God, the unis like dude, I can't imagine walking off 2645 01:51:35,600 --> 01:51:37,240 Speaker 4: the bus and just feeling like that, like we just 2646 01:51:37,320 --> 01:51:40,000 Speaker 4: look better, we are better. We're going to destroy everything. 2647 01:51:40,400 --> 01:51:41,360 Speaker 7: But that was that was that. 2648 01:51:41,560 --> 01:51:43,759 Speaker 5: That was that swag at s C for a period 2649 01:51:43,840 --> 01:51:47,200 Speaker 5: of seven eight years and like respectfully, like it's been 2650 01:51:47,280 --> 01:51:48,840 Speaker 5: such a long time, Like I'm just like I'm tired 2651 01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:50,240 Speaker 5: of talking, like, hey, when we did this. 2652 01:51:50,240 --> 01:51:53,200 Speaker 4: Because because well, what's what's missing now at SC? Do 2653 01:51:53,280 --> 01:51:55,000 Speaker 4: you think, Carol? 2654 01:51:55,200 --> 01:51:58,760 Speaker 5: I think no, all right, I'm going to answer this question. 2655 01:51:58,920 --> 01:52:02,320 Speaker 5: So in my opinion, and I'm not the most educated. 2656 01:52:02,439 --> 01:52:04,160 Speaker 5: I you know, I'm connected to the program. I try 2657 01:52:04,200 --> 01:52:06,639 Speaker 5: and help them in terms of given athletes advice post 2658 01:52:06,680 --> 01:52:10,360 Speaker 5: playing days and you know, how to make sure you 2659 01:52:10,439 --> 01:52:14,200 Speaker 5: set yourself up, not just financially and hire good financial advisor, 2660 01:52:14,240 --> 01:52:19,439 Speaker 5: but actually, you know, be articulate and ideally fluent in 2661 01:52:19,840 --> 01:52:21,920 Speaker 5: the financial language. You know, it's not just about hiring 2662 01:52:21,920 --> 01:52:23,360 Speaker 5: good people to manag your money, it's being able to 2663 01:52:23,400 --> 01:52:28,559 Speaker 5: manage those managers. I think the game of college football, 2664 01:52:28,640 --> 01:52:32,840 Speaker 5: the dynamic, especially with NIL, has changed so fast, and 2665 01:52:32,920 --> 01:52:36,160 Speaker 5: there's some programs like Oregon or Ohio State. Again I'm 2666 01:52:36,200 --> 01:52:40,120 Speaker 5: not I think Michigan. Is Michigan a great NIL like 2667 01:52:40,160 --> 01:52:43,880 Speaker 5: because because I understand Michigan, like they really did a 2668 01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:46,880 Speaker 5: great job with Harbaugh developing three four five year guys. 2669 01:52:47,160 --> 01:52:48,240 Speaker 5: Now they're NIL. 2670 01:52:48,479 --> 01:52:50,720 Speaker 4: I think it's like like this year and last year, 2671 01:52:50,760 --> 01:52:53,599 Speaker 4: like the first like two years were really feeling like real, 2672 01:52:53,800 --> 01:52:55,320 Speaker 4: real money going into Okay. 2673 01:52:55,439 --> 01:52:57,320 Speaker 5: But you guys didn't win the Natty. Last year. I 2674 01:52:57,360 --> 01:53:00,559 Speaker 5: felt like it was mostly homegrown players. But the game 2675 01:53:00,600 --> 01:53:03,160 Speaker 5: has shifted so much, and I think there are programs 2676 01:53:03,200 --> 01:53:06,000 Speaker 5: that have really like stayed ahead of that, and I 2677 01:53:06,040 --> 01:53:08,760 Speaker 5: don't think SE is that And I blame if I'm 2678 01:53:08,760 --> 01:53:11,719 Speaker 5: gonna blame it, I blame the culture of the school 2679 01:53:11,720 --> 01:53:14,639 Speaker 5: because there's still PTSD from the sanctions, and I think 2680 01:53:14,680 --> 01:53:17,120 Speaker 5: they're very like it's scared of your own shadow. They 2681 01:53:17,160 --> 01:53:19,920 Speaker 5: don't want to do anything without the NCAA saying you 2682 01:53:20,040 --> 01:53:22,920 Speaker 5: can do this, which is like formal opinion letter submit 2683 01:53:23,040 --> 01:53:26,160 Speaker 5: can we do this? While other schools it's not that 2684 01:53:26,200 --> 01:53:28,760 Speaker 5: they're breaking the rules and maybe not even playing by 2685 01:53:28,800 --> 01:53:30,720 Speaker 5: the rules. There are no rules right now, and so 2686 01:53:30,920 --> 01:53:33,400 Speaker 5: there's other schools like we're just gonna do this and 2687 01:53:33,560 --> 01:53:35,960 Speaker 5: like it's better to beg for forgiveness than ask for permission. 2688 01:53:36,120 --> 01:53:38,800 Speaker 5: Sc UP until recently has been like no, we need 2689 01:53:38,840 --> 01:53:40,759 Speaker 5: to make sure we ask for permission, so we're always 2690 01:53:40,760 --> 01:53:42,880 Speaker 5: a year or two behind. My hope is that the 2691 01:53:42,920 --> 01:53:46,920 Speaker 5: administration is being more aggressive with NIL and all that. 2692 01:53:47,120 --> 01:53:49,920 Speaker 5: I don't I can't say state put that as a 2693 01:53:49,960 --> 01:53:52,040 Speaker 5: statement of fact. That's just like from what I can tell, 2694 01:53:52,160 --> 01:53:54,160 Speaker 5: like quasi connected to the program? 2695 01:53:54,280 --> 01:53:54,840 Speaker 2: Does that make sense? 2696 01:53:54,960 --> 01:53:57,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Ye, it makes a lot of sense. 2697 01:53:57,920 --> 01:53:59,400 Speaker 1: We have my opinion now. I just I think, like 2698 01:54:00,160 --> 01:54:04,360 Speaker 1: I mean strictly from a football standpoint, like x'es and o's. 2699 01:54:05,880 --> 01:54:07,960 Speaker 1: I think it's like a mentality thing. I mean, obviously 2700 01:54:08,040 --> 01:54:10,000 Speaker 1: there's some there was weaknesses in the O line and 2701 01:54:10,320 --> 01:54:12,679 Speaker 1: D line last year. When you've seen you know, Miller 2702 01:54:12,760 --> 01:54:14,720 Speaker 1: Moss getting sacked so much. I don't think he was 2703 01:54:14,840 --> 01:54:17,040 Speaker 1: the problem. They ended up benching him like three quarters 2704 01:54:17,040 --> 01:54:19,000 Speaker 1: of the way through the season. But I think they 2705 01:54:19,080 --> 01:54:22,679 Speaker 1: need some more athletes. But you know, these guys are great. 2706 01:54:22,760 --> 01:54:25,439 Speaker 1: You know that they've been bringing in and you know 2707 01:54:25,520 --> 01:54:28,960 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley and offensively what Caleb Williams was able to 2708 01:54:29,000 --> 01:54:31,120 Speaker 1: do the last I guess the previous two years. 2709 01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:32,400 Speaker 5: They got a really good decordinator. 2710 01:54:32,480 --> 01:54:36,000 Speaker 1: Now, yeah, it's truly remarkable your top three, but you 2711 01:54:36,040 --> 01:54:38,400 Speaker 1: know that year where they lost to it was a 2712 01:54:38,600 --> 01:54:40,640 Speaker 1: Utah when they should have gone to the playoffs at 2713 01:54:40,680 --> 01:54:42,200 Speaker 1: that time. I don't know if it's just like a 2714 01:54:42,440 --> 01:54:44,600 Speaker 1: because Pete had that that culture, you know, that that 2715 01:54:45,040 --> 01:54:46,840 Speaker 1: hard ass culture, And I don't know if it's just 2716 01:54:46,920 --> 01:54:48,960 Speaker 1: all x's and o's and putting up fifty every game 2717 01:54:49,000 --> 01:54:51,320 Speaker 1: as opposed to you know, do you want a defensive 2718 01:54:51,320 --> 01:54:53,440 Speaker 1: minded head coach or do you want offensive mind a 2719 01:54:53,480 --> 01:54:53,880 Speaker 1: head coach? 2720 01:54:54,080 --> 01:54:54,280 Speaker 4: Yeah? 2721 01:54:54,440 --> 01:54:56,720 Speaker 2: And I think you guys are closer because even though 2722 01:54:56,760 --> 01:54:59,240 Speaker 2: you guys lost what five games this year, they weren't 2723 01:54:59,240 --> 01:55:01,680 Speaker 2: you guys were like one score games most of the time. Yeah, 2724 01:55:01,720 --> 01:55:01,960 Speaker 2: we did. 2725 01:55:02,080 --> 01:55:04,800 Speaker 5: I think they're close. Like again, Dan tunneln is the 2726 01:55:04,880 --> 01:55:07,480 Speaker 5: decoordinator came from the Ravens. Like if you just look 2727 01:55:07,520 --> 01:55:11,000 Speaker 5: at the statistical improvement, and respectfully, like me, Clay, my dad, 2728 01:55:11,080 --> 01:55:13,160 Speaker 5: we're on a text chain like sometimes when ST's playing, like. 2729 01:55:13,160 --> 01:55:14,240 Speaker 4: We'll be like this defense. 2730 01:55:14,280 --> 01:55:16,640 Speaker 5: But this was the first year where like the text 2731 01:55:16,680 --> 01:55:19,520 Speaker 5: messages weren't about the defense, right, So I think the 2732 01:55:19,600 --> 01:55:22,720 Speaker 5: defense is getting better. To Clay's point, they really need bodies, 2733 01:55:22,840 --> 01:55:25,440 Speaker 5: They need the big guys. They always have athletes. Look 2734 01:55:25,440 --> 01:55:26,960 Speaker 5: at the receivers in the NFL. 2735 01:55:26,840 --> 01:55:29,480 Speaker 1: Like you know, that's why whenever they play like an 2736 01:55:29,600 --> 01:55:31,880 Speaker 1: SEC team or Big ten, they always get bullied to 2737 01:55:31,920 --> 01:55:33,760 Speaker 1: look at in the trenches, you know, but they'll put 2738 01:55:33,880 --> 01:55:35,760 Speaker 1: up like I said, thirty five, forty two point whatever 2739 01:55:35,800 --> 01:55:37,840 Speaker 1: it is. But it's just that you know, they'll they'll 2740 01:55:38,240 --> 01:55:39,640 Speaker 1: those those teams will run it down. 2741 01:55:39,680 --> 01:55:41,960 Speaker 5: And if you look at the old SC teams, like 2742 01:55:42,040 --> 01:55:43,680 Speaker 5: back when Clay and I played, that were that were 2743 01:55:43,760 --> 01:55:47,080 Speaker 5: winning every game. The Reggie's, the lineups, all those guys 2744 01:55:47,160 --> 01:55:48,640 Speaker 5: got the hype. But actually if you look at the 2745 01:55:48,680 --> 01:55:50,400 Speaker 5: guys they put in the league, it was O lineman, 2746 01:55:50,440 --> 01:55:54,240 Speaker 5: D linman linebackers, right, And so I think I'm very 2747 01:55:54,280 --> 01:55:57,400 Speaker 5: optimistic about Lincoln. I think he gets he knows what 2748 01:55:57,440 --> 01:56:00,280 Speaker 5: he has to do. There is a reality in college ball, 2749 01:56:00,320 --> 01:56:01,360 Speaker 5: like you can know what you have to do. You 2750 01:56:01,400 --> 01:56:02,840 Speaker 5: could say, hey, I'm going to go out and do it. 2751 01:56:02,920 --> 01:56:05,280 Speaker 5: But nowadays it's it's money, right, And if you don't 2752 01:56:05,320 --> 01:56:07,800 Speaker 5: have an nil war chest, like you're just not going 2753 01:56:07,880 --> 01:56:10,800 Speaker 5: to be competitive. Like kids don't. Most kids don't sign 2754 01:56:10,880 --> 01:56:12,080 Speaker 5: up for the uniform anymore. 2755 01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:12,360 Speaker 2: Right. 2756 01:56:12,560 --> 01:56:14,400 Speaker 5: It's like, even if they grew up an SC fan, 2757 01:56:14,880 --> 01:56:17,880 Speaker 5: if they have a big freshman year, they're going to 2758 01:56:17,920 --> 01:56:19,960 Speaker 5: get a phone call from Ohio State saying hey, or 2759 01:56:20,040 --> 01:56:22,280 Speaker 5: Georgia saying like, hey, why don't you come here and 2760 01:56:22,320 --> 01:56:24,160 Speaker 5: I'll pay you a million bucks a year. They're not like, sorry, 2761 01:56:24,200 --> 01:56:26,360 Speaker 5: I'm an SC guy. They're like, they go to SC, 2762 01:56:26,680 --> 01:56:28,400 Speaker 5: how much you're gonna pay? I think I think nil? 2763 01:56:28,480 --> 01:56:31,640 Speaker 5: Well nil. Wise they've figured it out. But like, I 2764 01:56:31,680 --> 01:56:34,040 Speaker 5: don't know, Yeah, college football is better when when SC 2765 01:56:34,240 --> 01:56:36,760 Speaker 5: the Notre Dames, the Michigan's Nebraska. 2766 01:56:36,800 --> 01:56:39,520 Speaker 1: Nebraska is in the top twenty two. 2767 01:56:39,600 --> 01:56:44,360 Speaker 5: Nebraska speaking in that top twenty five NCAA football is 2768 01:56:44,440 --> 01:56:46,880 Speaker 5: better when Nebraska's you know, nine to four, not six 2769 01:56:46,960 --> 01:56:47,280 Speaker 5: and six. 2770 01:56:48,320 --> 01:56:50,600 Speaker 4: Well, every year they've gotten one one game better. 2771 01:56:50,720 --> 01:56:52,560 Speaker 2: You guys only beat it because of a passer in 2772 01:56:52,560 --> 01:56:53,480 Speaker 2: appearance call at the end. 2773 01:56:54,400 --> 01:56:55,760 Speaker 1: I don't think I watched that. That was a twelve 2774 01:56:55,760 --> 01:56:56,360 Speaker 1: o'clock game. 2775 01:56:59,000 --> 01:57:02,280 Speaker 2: You're only probably feel for the propriety. I'm screaming at 2776 01:57:02,280 --> 01:57:04,720 Speaker 2: the TV over BI calls. You guys keep up with. 2777 01:57:05,040 --> 01:57:07,680 Speaker 4: College or NFL more like, as far as just enjoying it. 2778 01:57:08,240 --> 01:57:11,560 Speaker 2: For me, NFL, yeah, yeah, you're not a big sc guy. 2779 01:57:11,960 --> 01:57:13,400 Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm a huge SEE guy. But I'm 2780 01:57:13,440 --> 01:57:15,760 Speaker 1: just saying, like it's it's hard to you know, with 2781 01:57:15,880 --> 01:57:18,360 Speaker 1: the success I guess the lack of success or what 2782 01:57:18,400 --> 01:57:20,560 Speaker 1: we're accustomed to see in But no, I sit down. 2783 01:57:20,720 --> 01:57:23,480 Speaker 1: My wife knows like Sundays are are my day. Like 2784 01:57:23,560 --> 01:57:25,800 Speaker 1: I worked to about twelve o'clock and around the house 2785 01:57:25,880 --> 01:57:27,880 Speaker 1: cleaning up, you know, making banana red, and then I'm 2786 01:57:27,920 --> 01:57:32,480 Speaker 1: then I sit down clock. Yes, sure, and but no, 2787 01:57:32,600 --> 01:57:34,840 Speaker 1: I really enjoy the NFL as far as watching it, 2788 01:57:34,920 --> 01:57:36,800 Speaker 1: and because I felt like I don't know how it 2789 01:57:36,880 --> 01:57:38,800 Speaker 1: is for you at Lineman you as well, Like I 2790 01:57:38,920 --> 01:57:40,760 Speaker 1: felt like my mind at the end of my career 2791 01:57:40,920 --> 01:57:42,920 Speaker 1: was just so tuned in and natural. They always tell 2792 01:57:42,920 --> 01:57:44,680 Speaker 1: you this, like I was just and I was like, 2793 01:57:44,840 --> 01:57:47,720 Speaker 1: when I went to the Rams, Chris Shulo, who's now 2794 01:57:47,760 --> 01:57:50,720 Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator, he was my linebackers coach, but we 2795 01:57:50,840 --> 01:57:52,680 Speaker 1: might as well have been the same as far as uh, 2796 01:57:53,240 --> 01:57:56,240 Speaker 1: you know, on the same page and being peers and whatnot. 2797 01:57:56,320 --> 01:57:59,120 Speaker 1: And so I just felt like the way I was 2798 01:57:59,160 --> 01:58:01,520 Speaker 1: able to give back teach these guys who were playing 2799 01:58:01,600 --> 01:58:03,440 Speaker 1: behind me at the time, like my mind was just 2800 01:58:03,600 --> 01:58:05,520 Speaker 1: so far advanced. And of course that's the time I'm 2801 01:58:05,720 --> 01:58:08,200 Speaker 1: pulling the plug on you. Now, all I gotta do 2802 01:58:08,240 --> 01:58:09,680 Speaker 1: is sit at the TV and be like, I guys 2803 01:58:09,720 --> 01:58:12,839 Speaker 1: got to do this. But I enjoy the NFL still. 2804 01:58:12,840 --> 01:58:15,000 Speaker 4: Dude, I hear what you're saying. With watching the games, 2805 01:58:15,040 --> 01:58:16,720 Speaker 4: that's kind of turns me away from the NFL a 2806 01:58:16,760 --> 01:58:18,600 Speaker 4: little bit more because I'll watch the games and I'll 2807 01:58:18,640 --> 01:58:20,480 Speaker 4: get so caught in the offensive line of what they're 2808 01:58:20,520 --> 01:58:22,840 Speaker 4: doing that I'm not really enjoying it as opposed to 2809 01:58:22,880 --> 01:58:25,040 Speaker 4: I'll watch like college football, whether it be Michigan or 2810 01:58:25,040 --> 01:58:28,040 Speaker 4: any other team. It's like the offices are so different 2811 01:58:28,280 --> 01:58:32,000 Speaker 4: and the talent levels so different, and the mistakes are 2812 01:58:32,040 --> 01:58:34,120 Speaker 4: so much more often, so it's kind of more fun 2813 01:58:34,160 --> 01:58:36,920 Speaker 4: to see these massive, explosive plays, guys being out of 2814 01:58:36,960 --> 01:58:39,120 Speaker 4: their gaps. It's like I enjoy that more. I enjoy 2815 01:58:39,240 --> 01:58:40,040 Speaker 4: watching the mistakes. 2816 01:58:40,200 --> 01:58:42,680 Speaker 1: I will say though, like the Who, I don't know 2817 01:58:42,720 --> 01:58:46,400 Speaker 1: if it was like Chargers Texan. That was just to me, 2818 01:58:46,720 --> 01:58:48,520 Speaker 1: that was a background noise game. But like when La 2819 01:58:48,560 --> 01:58:51,000 Speaker 1: Mar comes on and sa Quon, I feel like I 2820 01:58:51,120 --> 01:58:53,920 Speaker 1: tune into the superstar like Jamar Chase Burrow, Like there's 2821 01:58:53,960 --> 01:58:57,360 Speaker 1: guys mahomes who I will watch the whole game start 2822 01:58:57,400 --> 01:58:59,720 Speaker 1: to finish, But I feel like that's just a select 2823 01:58:59,760 --> 01:59:01,560 Speaker 1: maybe you know, eight ten teams there. 2824 01:59:01,720 --> 01:59:03,000 Speaker 4: How bad did you want the Bengals to get? 2825 01:59:03,040 --> 01:59:07,200 Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, absolutely, the Bengals are so yeah, they're super 2826 01:59:07,400 --> 01:59:10,120 Speaker 1: every year. They're dangerous. They obviously gave away too many 2827 01:59:10,160 --> 01:59:12,360 Speaker 1: games early on, but the way Burrow played at the 2828 01:59:12,440 --> 01:59:14,360 Speaker 1: end obviously, I mean he won't win MVP, but he, 2829 01:59:14,720 --> 01:59:17,400 Speaker 1: based on his stats very well could and Jamar Chase 2830 01:59:17,440 --> 01:59:18,200 Speaker 1: it was fun to watch. 2831 01:59:18,400 --> 01:59:20,440 Speaker 5: I was gonna, yeah, he watches more football than I 2832 01:59:20,720 --> 01:59:23,280 Speaker 5: just obviously close to the game. But I was gonna 2833 01:59:23,280 --> 01:59:24,640 Speaker 5: say most of the most of the sports we get 2834 01:59:24,680 --> 01:59:27,320 Speaker 5: together and watch the UFC, Like yeah, because again with 2835 01:59:27,440 --> 01:59:29,920 Speaker 5: the four kids, the three kids, and then I got 2836 01:59:30,000 --> 01:59:32,160 Speaker 5: my work life. During the week, there's not as much time. 2837 01:59:32,240 --> 01:59:34,600 Speaker 5: So for me to take a Saturday Sunday and park 2838 01:59:34,680 --> 01:59:36,800 Speaker 5: it and say like, hey, you know it's not my job. 2839 01:59:36,880 --> 01:59:38,320 Speaker 5: It wasn't my career the way it is his. So 2840 01:59:38,400 --> 01:59:40,720 Speaker 5: I get that for him. But for me, you know, 2841 01:59:41,520 --> 01:59:43,000 Speaker 5: the deal I have is like, hey, you get the 2842 01:59:43,040 --> 01:59:45,120 Speaker 5: kids to bed on a Saturday night at a thirty, 2843 01:59:45,280 --> 01:59:47,960 Speaker 5: like that's when the UFC comes on. So nor I 2844 01:59:48,000 --> 01:59:50,160 Speaker 5: normally will get together with my brother Casey. 2845 01:59:49,920 --> 01:59:52,240 Speaker 1: And like we'll we'll talk about what we would have 2846 01:59:52,280 --> 01:59:56,600 Speaker 1: done differently, how should have defeated You know, I told 2847 01:59:56,640 --> 01:59:58,400 Speaker 1: Taylor when when I first saw Taylor, because I was 2848 01:59:58,480 --> 02:00:01,600 Speaker 1: so like I just, I guess envious of like how 2849 02:00:01,720 --> 02:00:03,720 Speaker 1: close you were to Dana and how you were there. 2850 02:00:03,760 --> 02:00:06,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, because in twenty nineteen, when I stayed 2851 02:00:06,040 --> 02:00:08,200 Speaker 1: in Green Bay with my contract up in the air, 2852 02:00:08,480 --> 02:00:11,080 Speaker 1: there was no sports on it this time, and the 2853 02:00:11,200 --> 02:00:13,480 Speaker 1: UFC was this only thing that came on pretty much 2854 02:00:13,600 --> 02:00:15,600 Speaker 1: every week. So I started tuning in and all of 2855 02:00:15,600 --> 02:00:17,160 Speaker 1: a sudden, I see a fighter. I saw a fight 2856 02:00:17,720 --> 02:00:19,920 Speaker 1: three months ago fighting. Oh okay, I remember that guy, 2857 02:00:19,920 --> 02:00:23,160 Speaker 1: and so I probably haven't missed a fight night, a 2858 02:00:23,240 --> 02:00:26,200 Speaker 1: pay per view, you name it, and since twenty nineteen, do. 2859 02:00:26,240 --> 02:00:29,240 Speaker 4: You watch this past weekend since he durn Yeah, I 2860 02:00:29,320 --> 02:00:32,080 Speaker 4: watched it. Yeah, dude, maybe the best slate of fights 2861 02:00:32,120 --> 02:00:34,040 Speaker 4: in a long time. There are like three knockouts. 2862 02:00:34,280 --> 02:00:35,920 Speaker 1: Well it was. I didn't watch it all. I watched it. 2863 02:00:36,040 --> 02:00:36,440 Speaker 2: I watched it. 2864 02:00:37,120 --> 02:00:40,600 Speaker 5: I usually I used it six years except wow. 2865 02:00:42,120 --> 02:00:44,160 Speaker 1: When I saw when I saw like, oh the main 2866 02:00:44,240 --> 02:00:45,800 Speaker 1: card was, I was like, all right, But then you 2867 02:00:45,880 --> 02:00:47,560 Speaker 1: know there was there was there were some good there 2868 02:00:47,560 --> 02:00:49,160 Speaker 1: were some good fights on it. But I'm looking forward 2869 02:00:49,160 --> 02:00:50,240 Speaker 1: to this weekend coming up here. 2870 02:00:50,360 --> 02:00:52,520 Speaker 4: There was this one dude who was just getting pumbled 2871 02:00:52,560 --> 02:00:53,720 Speaker 4: on for a minute, and you thought he was about 2872 02:00:53,720 --> 02:00:55,640 Speaker 4: to get knocked out, and he just threw a straight 2873 02:00:55,760 --> 02:00:57,440 Speaker 4: right in the chain. Dude was out for like a minute. 2874 02:00:57,520 --> 02:00:57,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 2875 02:00:57,720 --> 02:00:59,360 Speaker 4: I saw that to the point where like everyone's like 2876 02:00:59,560 --> 02:01:04,000 Speaker 4: clapping here and there was like what's going on here? 2877 02:01:04,560 --> 02:01:05,240 Speaker 2: It was nuts. 2878 02:01:05,440 --> 02:01:06,960 Speaker 5: We're like that meme you sent me to mean the 2879 02:01:07,000 --> 02:01:08,560 Speaker 5: other day, like that fat guy on a couch with 2880 02:01:08,600 --> 02:01:11,040 Speaker 5: the bob, why did he shoot the single la? 2881 02:01:11,320 --> 02:01:13,240 Speaker 2: It makes no sense, dude. 2882 02:01:13,280 --> 02:01:16,360 Speaker 4: Those are just fucking like Michael Chandler, He's just what 2883 02:01:16,640 --> 02:01:19,440 Speaker 4: five six just built like a pit bull, and he 2884 02:01:19,560 --> 02:01:21,520 Speaker 4: is terrifying. We had we had a beer Olympics and 2885 02:01:22,560 --> 02:01:25,160 Speaker 4: me and Will are wrestling Shane and Burt and they 2886 02:01:25,280 --> 02:01:27,560 Speaker 4: call for Mike and Mike gets a hold of my 2887 02:01:27,640 --> 02:01:30,200 Speaker 4: heel and I'm like borderline drowning in the pool, Like 2888 02:01:30,280 --> 02:01:32,560 Speaker 4: I'm like praying to God, like please let me up, 2889 02:01:32,560 --> 02:01:34,000 Speaker 4: because it's about to be over for me. He's just 2890 02:01:34,520 --> 02:01:35,840 Speaker 4: they're just different breaths of humans. 2891 02:01:36,040 --> 02:01:37,840 Speaker 1: Mike's fun to watch ever since he came on the scene. 2892 02:01:37,840 --> 02:01:40,240 Speaker 1: I remember because just a yeah, I remember him talking. 2893 02:01:40,240 --> 02:01:42,200 Speaker 1: He did like a he backed up one of these fights. 2894 02:01:42,280 --> 02:01:43,680 Speaker 1: I don't know who it was. He was ready to go, 2895 02:01:43,760 --> 02:01:45,880 Speaker 1: and then he fought Dan Hooker and I was like, man, 2896 02:01:45,920 --> 02:01:50,000 Speaker 1: it's good looking, he's articulated, he's champion from whatever it was, 2897 02:01:50,080 --> 02:01:52,680 Speaker 1: and he came over here, had immediate success. But even 2898 02:01:52,720 --> 02:01:54,240 Speaker 1: in his losses, he's fun to watch. 2899 02:01:54,720 --> 02:01:55,960 Speaker 2: This is Mike. 2900 02:01:57,320 --> 02:01:59,360 Speaker 4: He gets my heel here, watched my head of the 2901 02:02:01,000 --> 02:02:05,160 Speaker 4: setting in. I was freaking out. 2902 02:02:05,280 --> 02:02:05,480 Speaker 1: Dude. 2903 02:02:06,160 --> 02:02:08,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, even when he loses, he seems to come out 2904 02:02:08,040 --> 02:02:08,280 Speaker 2: on top. 2905 02:02:08,440 --> 02:02:08,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 2906 02:02:08,680 --> 02:02:10,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, He's the only guy who can cut a promo after, 2907 02:02:11,040 --> 02:02:12,120 Speaker 1: you know, losing. 2908 02:02:14,000 --> 02:02:15,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, fight. 2909 02:02:15,800 --> 02:02:17,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was phenomenal that fifth round. 2910 02:02:17,360 --> 02:02:20,680 Speaker 2: I'm like, crazy, you almost got him almost. 2911 02:02:20,800 --> 02:02:23,280 Speaker 5: I mean it as a compliment. He's like a WWE guy, 2912 02:02:23,400 --> 02:02:25,000 Speaker 5: like in terms of a hype man, and I think 2913 02:02:25,160 --> 02:02:29,760 Speaker 5: other wrestlers, you know, are taking because like, ultimately, what 2914 02:02:29,880 --> 02:02:31,360 Speaker 5: are they there for. They want to win fights, and 2915 02:02:31,400 --> 02:02:33,000 Speaker 5: obviously they have a passion for that. 2916 02:02:33,080 --> 02:02:35,640 Speaker 2: It is to make money, right, it's marketability. 2917 02:02:35,720 --> 02:02:37,840 Speaker 4: And yeah, he's great in the game of the story 2918 02:02:37,880 --> 02:02:40,240 Speaker 4: that's suddenly I think UFC does better than anybody else. 2919 02:02:40,360 --> 02:02:42,680 Speaker 4: Is like playing into the storylines of the beef between 2920 02:02:42,680 --> 02:02:45,440 Speaker 4: the two individuals. I think that is so money. We 2921 02:02:45,600 --> 02:02:48,280 Speaker 4: had to take on Michigan Ohouse State after Michigan planning 2922 02:02:48,360 --> 02:02:51,040 Speaker 4: the flag, and then the postgame press, the post game 2923 02:02:51,160 --> 02:02:52,760 Speaker 4: like show, they're talking about how there's no place for 2924 02:02:52,840 --> 02:02:55,200 Speaker 4: that in football, and it's like, don't say that, because 2925 02:02:55,200 --> 02:02:56,720 Speaker 4: you know next year going to the game, you're going 2926 02:02:56,800 --> 02:02:59,000 Speaker 4: to show that to get everybody to go watch the game, 2927 02:02:59,080 --> 02:03:01,840 Speaker 4: Like you want these storylines to like, you know, make 2928 02:03:01,880 --> 02:03:04,000 Speaker 4: everybody kind of tune in. The's a couple of guys 2929 02:03:04,040 --> 02:03:05,360 Speaker 4: from s C. You're like, you're not gonna be like, 2930 02:03:05,680 --> 02:03:07,880 Speaker 4: let me go watch Michigan, Ohiose State today you'll probably 2931 02:03:07,880 --> 02:03:08,440 Speaker 4: go turn on you. 2932 02:03:09,080 --> 02:03:10,720 Speaker 5: Ohio State wins and plants the flag. 2933 02:03:11,160 --> 02:03:12,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you want to see that. 2934 02:03:12,880 --> 02:03:14,440 Speaker 4: And I'm thinking to myself, we got to get five 2935 02:03:14,480 --> 02:03:14,840 Speaker 4: in a row. 2936 02:03:14,960 --> 02:03:17,200 Speaker 5: And so now like Diamond and like, I don't know, 2937 02:03:17,320 --> 02:03:19,840 Speaker 5: maybe I'm different. Like if you don't want them to 2938 02:03:19,880 --> 02:03:22,120 Speaker 5: plant the flag, don't lose. Yeah, Like that's how I 2939 02:03:22,440 --> 02:03:22,680 Speaker 5: love that. 2940 02:03:23,360 --> 02:03:23,840 Speaker 7: I love that. 2941 02:03:24,040 --> 02:03:25,440 Speaker 4: Who do you think I won the national championship? 2942 02:03:26,200 --> 02:03:27,760 Speaker 5: Not Ohio State, Ohio State? 2943 02:03:27,840 --> 02:03:29,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I Ohio State's rolling around. 2944 02:03:29,320 --> 02:03:32,360 Speaker 5: I think it's tell you I don't like Notre Dame 2945 02:03:32,520 --> 02:03:35,000 Speaker 5: being an sc guy generally speaking, but like, man, I 2946 02:03:35,160 --> 02:03:37,480 Speaker 5: like that coach Marcus Freeman, Like he's. 2947 02:03:37,480 --> 02:03:39,080 Speaker 2: It seems like the Bears are gonna interview him. 2948 02:03:40,080 --> 02:03:42,840 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, that's probably just that's probably just to create 2949 02:03:43,240 --> 02:03:45,680 Speaker 5: but again that that's probably to create leverage to get 2950 02:03:45,720 --> 02:03:46,600 Speaker 5: a better deal with Pete. 2951 02:03:47,880 --> 02:03:48,280 Speaker 1: That's right. 2952 02:03:49,680 --> 02:03:51,280 Speaker 5: Like if you if you like, if you're thinking like 2953 02:03:51,400 --> 02:03:53,440 Speaker 5: and you're like, we like Pete. He has success, he 2954 02:03:53,520 --> 02:03:57,360 Speaker 5: brings energy, We have a good young quarterback. You don't 2955 02:03:57,480 --> 02:04:00,280 Speaker 5: just interview Pete and like, again, Pete's got a great agent. 2956 02:04:00,360 --> 02:04:03,320 Speaker 5: You you bring in some hot candidates. You don't tell 2957 02:04:03,400 --> 02:04:06,240 Speaker 5: him this, but you're just creating leverage to negotiate with peace. 2958 02:04:06,080 --> 02:04:08,560 Speaker 2: Business and he's got it. He had to pick up 2959 02:04:08,560 --> 02:04:09,120 Speaker 2: books early. 2960 02:04:12,360 --> 02:04:12,480 Speaker 4: Man. 2961 02:04:14,120 --> 02:04:16,040 Speaker 5: No, I remember I got to my my work. The 2962 02:04:16,080 --> 02:04:18,080 Speaker 5: first day I had to YouTube. This is when YouTube 2963 02:04:18,080 --> 02:04:20,280 Speaker 5: like how to tie a tie the night before. My 2964 02:04:20,480 --> 02:04:22,200 Speaker 5: dad was the best dad in the world, but he 2965 02:04:22,320 --> 02:04:25,600 Speaker 5: never had a traditional job. He was an NFL football 2966 02:04:25,640 --> 02:04:28,920 Speaker 5: player straight to being a you know, our youth football coach, 2967 02:04:28,960 --> 02:04:32,280 Speaker 5: and so that transition was very painful. 2968 02:04:32,400 --> 02:04:32,600 Speaker 8: Man. 2969 02:04:32,680 --> 02:04:34,920 Speaker 5: It took it took years for me to catch up 2970 02:04:35,520 --> 02:04:39,680 Speaker 5: to the you know, I want to you know stereotype 2971 02:04:39,720 --> 02:04:43,240 Speaker 5: the frat boys, Like, who's not just in college? I 2972 02:04:43,360 --> 02:04:45,720 Speaker 5: never I didn't think that I should be preparing for 2973 02:04:45,800 --> 02:04:48,200 Speaker 5: life after football. That was something like after my last 2974 02:04:48,240 --> 02:04:49,600 Speaker 5: game was like a crap, Like what do I do? 2975 02:04:50,320 --> 02:04:53,560 Speaker 5: And on top of that, you know, they just had more. 2976 02:04:53,680 --> 02:04:55,480 Speaker 5: It took me a long time to catch up. That 2977 02:04:55,880 --> 02:04:56,800 Speaker 5: was that was pretty painful. 2978 02:04:57,040 --> 02:04:58,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, should we hit our tier talk. 2979 02:04:58,880 --> 02:05:00,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's hit your talk here. 2980 02:05:00,280 --> 02:05:04,720 Speaker 2: Talk this week is gonna be best brother athletic families. 2981 02:05:04,800 --> 02:05:05,480 Speaker 5: Of all times. 2982 02:05:05,560 --> 02:05:07,800 Speaker 2: Math talk explain them how tier talk works. So tier 2983 02:05:07,880 --> 02:05:10,000 Speaker 2: talk is basically your top three. You'll start a tier three. 2984 02:05:10,520 --> 02:05:12,440 Speaker 2: You give a reason. Why are you give a little? 2985 02:05:13,600 --> 02:05:15,360 Speaker 2: You give a few words? Why tier two? 2986 02:05:15,520 --> 02:05:16,640 Speaker 1: Tier brothers? 2987 02:05:16,680 --> 02:05:18,360 Speaker 2: If you want to give an honorable mention, that's on 2988 02:05:18,440 --> 02:05:19,000 Speaker 2: the table as well. 2989 02:05:19,080 --> 02:05:19,840 Speaker 1: Brothers are family. 2990 02:05:20,120 --> 02:05:21,360 Speaker 2: Family, We'll go family. 2991 02:05:21,400 --> 02:05:23,600 Speaker 1: Will just pla say, I'll do brothers. You guys, brothers. 2992 02:05:23,600 --> 02:05:25,240 Speaker 1: I want to do brothers. So you obviously got paid 2993 02:05:25,320 --> 02:05:25,960 Speaker 1: payt and eli. 2994 02:05:27,080 --> 02:05:28,840 Speaker 2: You gotta start at three. Now you gotta start. So 2995 02:05:28,920 --> 02:05:29,200 Speaker 2: here's it. 2996 02:05:29,280 --> 02:05:31,280 Speaker 4: You gotta start three, and then you go. You can 2997 02:05:31,320 --> 02:05:33,760 Speaker 4: give an honorable mention if you want, you go honorable 2998 02:05:33,800 --> 02:05:36,560 Speaker 4: mention three two one, and then everyone's gonna be silent. 2999 02:05:36,640 --> 02:05:38,760 Speaker 4: After we're gonna go around the room. Everyone's gonna say 3000 02:05:38,800 --> 02:05:41,240 Speaker 4: one word to describe how they feel about your tier talk. 3001 02:05:41,880 --> 02:05:44,240 Speaker 1: So okay, so I'm going three two one three two? Okay? 3002 02:05:44,320 --> 02:05:48,040 Speaker 4: So we are we each giving our own opinion, collaborat No, 3003 02:05:48,200 --> 02:05:49,240 Speaker 4: everyone's given their own opinion. 3004 02:05:49,360 --> 02:05:52,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Sorry real quick time out, dude. Is 3005 02:05:52,480 --> 02:05:54,920 Speaker 5: there a list of like or I have to think 3006 02:05:54,960 --> 02:05:56,000 Speaker 5: about off the top of my own. 3007 02:05:56,080 --> 02:05:59,720 Speaker 1: Manning, I would go Manning's one, we can work the 3008 02:05:59,760 --> 02:06:03,520 Speaker 1: other way. Manning's one. I would say, the Watts two 3009 02:06:05,360 --> 02:06:05,880 Speaker 1: and then. 3010 02:06:08,400 --> 02:06:09,200 Speaker 2: Any sport too. 3011 02:06:09,840 --> 02:06:14,120 Speaker 1: Oh now we're doing that? No, no, no, no, I 3012 02:06:14,560 --> 02:06:16,240 Speaker 1: I can't think of many other I mean, I know 3013 02:06:16,320 --> 02:06:22,200 Speaker 1: the Longs had success, the Bosas are obviously Nick's playing well. 3014 02:06:23,800 --> 02:06:26,160 Speaker 2: Phil's families. I think Mayweather's got to be in there. 3015 02:06:26,320 --> 02:06:29,760 Speaker 2: But it's brothers or siblings, the Williams sisters. 3016 02:06:30,640 --> 02:06:34,400 Speaker 1: Okay, wait are we going l We're doing NFL? Come 3017 02:06:34,440 --> 02:06:35,000 Speaker 1: on you brought. 3018 02:06:37,720 --> 02:06:42,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? Sorry, well JP back there any sport? Who'd you 3019 02:06:42,320 --> 02:06:42,680 Speaker 2: just tell me? 3020 02:06:42,720 --> 02:06:46,640 Speaker 1: You were asking chat? GPT gave a good one? 3021 02:06:48,000 --> 02:06:51,400 Speaker 2: What do you give you? Kyle? All right? So a 3022 02:06:51,520 --> 02:06:53,600 Speaker 2: couple because I agree with you. I think one and 3023 02:06:53,640 --> 02:06:56,760 Speaker 2: two is Mannings and then Watts, so three trying to 3024 02:06:56,760 --> 02:06:57,520 Speaker 2: figure out you're one. 3025 02:06:57,480 --> 02:06:57,840 Speaker 5: Of the best. 3026 02:06:57,920 --> 02:07:03,720 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, we're doing a whole different way. Yeah, this 3027 02:07:03,920 --> 02:07:05,880 Speaker 2: we'll just do it, all right, I got it, I 3028 02:07:05,960 --> 02:07:06,240 Speaker 2: got it. 3029 02:07:06,520 --> 02:07:07,960 Speaker 4: Well I don't. I don't agree with your tier two. 3030 02:07:07,960 --> 02:07:13,240 Speaker 5: All right, here we go. You want honorable mention that 3031 02:07:15,120 --> 02:07:20,080 Speaker 5: the Jones family, Arthur Jones, Jones, John j Yeah, okay, 3032 02:07:20,080 --> 02:07:24,440 Speaker 5: I guess, okay, the Jones and and number they're they're 3033 02:07:24,480 --> 02:07:27,120 Speaker 5: tier one in terms of who I don't want to fight, right, 3034 02:07:27,600 --> 02:07:32,800 Speaker 5: all right? Also honorable mention the Gronks. The gronkowskis okay, 3035 02:07:33,320 --> 02:07:38,440 Speaker 5: like they're they had players, But I would say tier 3036 02:07:38,560 --> 02:07:42,080 Speaker 5: three like beyond honor mentioned higher than I would say 3037 02:07:42,080 --> 02:07:45,080 Speaker 5: the Watt family JJ and T JM at their studs, right, 3038 02:07:46,320 --> 02:07:48,920 Speaker 5: But there's no butt to that. It's just if you 3039 02:07:49,000 --> 02:07:51,120 Speaker 5: want a Tier one tier two, I think you got 3040 02:07:51,240 --> 02:07:54,040 Speaker 5: to start talking generationally, like did their dad's play their 3041 02:07:54,200 --> 02:07:57,320 Speaker 5: their grandfathers, like you see what I'm saying. Like, and 3042 02:07:57,440 --> 02:08:01,040 Speaker 5: so tier two is the main because you had Peyton 3043 02:08:01,080 --> 02:08:06,120 Speaker 5: and Eli who are incredible, and Archie and then arch 3044 02:08:06,200 --> 02:08:08,720 Speaker 5: coming up. Tier one is I mean, it's one hundred 3045 02:08:08,720 --> 02:08:14,480 Speaker 5: percent of Matthews most games in NFL history across three generations, 3046 02:08:15,520 --> 02:08:18,480 Speaker 5: like and and what eleven different football players who who 3047 02:08:18,600 --> 02:08:19,840 Speaker 5: played a game in the NFL. 3048 02:08:20,080 --> 02:08:23,640 Speaker 1: Some one's still playing for the Jakes. Jakes had one 3049 02:08:23,720 --> 02:08:26,160 Speaker 1: hundred and I think he was drafted before you. Uh, 3050 02:08:30,520 --> 02:08:31,200 Speaker 1: yes he was. 3051 02:08:31,760 --> 02:08:33,200 Speaker 4: I remember the show. 3052 02:08:34,680 --> 02:08:38,480 Speaker 1: I remember you posted something a long time ago. Yeah, 3053 02:08:38,560 --> 02:08:40,160 Speaker 1: you went down to Atlanta. I don't know. You posted 3054 02:08:40,200 --> 02:08:42,440 Speaker 1: something and then it was funny because my my cousin, 3055 02:08:42,560 --> 02:08:46,440 Speaker 1: Jake's brother had re posted on Instagram. I was a 3056 02:08:46,480 --> 02:08:47,680 Speaker 1: funny little bit, right, there. 3057 02:08:47,880 --> 02:08:50,840 Speaker 4: But yeah, well, I mean I thought I was a Falcon, 3058 02:08:50,960 --> 02:08:54,120 Speaker 4: and I remember taking to Jake. We were we were 3059 02:08:54,160 --> 02:08:56,480 Speaker 4: like doing something during draft week, and I was like, Hey, 3060 02:08:56,520 --> 02:08:58,880 Speaker 4: where do you want to go? And I'm thinking, I 3061 02:08:58,880 --> 02:09:00,520 Speaker 4: don't know what I'm thinking. He's like with the Falcons. 3062 02:09:00,560 --> 02:09:01,920 Speaker 4: I was like, I want to to other Falcons too. 3063 02:09:02,040 --> 02:09:03,600 Speaker 4: We kind of kind of looked at each other and 3064 02:09:03,640 --> 02:09:06,000 Speaker 4: then we were cordial, nice. I liked a law He's awesome, 3065 02:09:06,120 --> 02:09:10,440 Speaker 4: great guy. But when that phone rang at six and 3066 02:09:10,600 --> 02:09:13,000 Speaker 4: he was two tables away from me, I was fucking sick. 3067 02:09:13,640 --> 02:09:16,600 Speaker 5: I got a question. Yeah, looking back at the careers, 3068 02:09:16,600 --> 02:09:18,960 Speaker 5: if you're at the gym, how would you draft that today? 3069 02:09:19,400 --> 02:09:21,960 Speaker 4: Probably take Jake before me. Still, I mean, he's had 3070 02:09:22,000 --> 02:09:26,440 Speaker 4: the longevity. He's eleven years in now. I think I 3071 02:09:26,720 --> 02:09:29,320 Speaker 4: had a higher ceiling. But you can't beat long, Like 3072 02:09:30,120 --> 02:09:31,360 Speaker 4: the best ability is durability. 3073 02:09:31,360 --> 02:09:34,520 Speaker 1: He's gonna play another He's gonna play a long Don't 3074 02:09:34,640 --> 02:09:37,240 Speaker 1: you want that? Like the number? I think he's he's 3075 02:09:37,320 --> 02:09:38,800 Speaker 1: right now, he's got the streak for longest. 3076 02:09:39,720 --> 02:09:40,240 Speaker 2: He's a Matthew. 3077 02:09:40,320 --> 02:09:41,880 Speaker 1: He isn't he hasn't missed the game of things. 3078 02:09:42,040 --> 02:09:43,720 Speaker 5: Which gets back to the first question. 3079 02:09:44,000 --> 02:09:45,320 Speaker 2: But you would take if you go back to that, 3080 02:09:45,480 --> 02:09:46,320 Speaker 2: it was brothers. 3081 02:09:46,880 --> 02:09:47,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, well. 3082 02:09:49,640 --> 02:09:51,240 Speaker 2: You're the one who even said brothers too, and then 3083 02:09:51,280 --> 02:09:53,000 Speaker 2: your brother brings in the entire family. 3084 02:09:54,320 --> 02:09:54,840 Speaker 7: Sounds good. 3085 02:09:55,640 --> 02:09:57,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, to go back to that, because I am 3086 02:09:57,960 --> 02:10:01,320 Speaker 4: you guys fourteen, You take Jake second or second or 3087 02:10:01,320 --> 02:10:04,680 Speaker 4: third overall over the Rams, picked over Greg Robinson, and 3088 02:10:04,720 --> 02:10:08,280 Speaker 4: then I probably go six. Actually, probably take Zach Martin 3089 02:10:08,800 --> 02:10:10,240 Speaker 4: because he's in that draft class as well. 3090 02:10:10,280 --> 02:10:12,040 Speaker 5: He went to the Cowboys with the Cowboys. 3091 02:10:12,240 --> 02:10:14,240 Speaker 4: He's a Hall of Fame. He probably actually goes before Jake. 3092 02:10:15,040 --> 02:10:17,760 Speaker 4: So be like Jake or sorry Zach, Jake than me 3093 02:10:18,800 --> 02:10:21,280 Speaker 4: because I'm obviously I had like a more splash and 3094 02:10:21,320 --> 02:10:23,480 Speaker 4: there's still more time on Jake's career to do that. 3095 02:10:23,560 --> 02:10:25,680 Speaker 4: I mean, I think Bruce didn't make a Pro Bowl 3096 02:10:25,720 --> 02:10:32,520 Speaker 4: till his eleventh year. Bruce he made fourteen, but he 3097 02:10:32,800 --> 02:10:34,680 Speaker 4: like he didn't make it for the like he made 3098 02:10:34,760 --> 02:10:38,280 Speaker 4: the back half square. So yeah, I think, I mean, 3099 02:10:38,320 --> 02:10:40,960 Speaker 4: obviously you take Jake before me for sure? For sure, 3100 02:10:40,960 --> 02:10:43,280 Speaker 4: it makes me six. In it out loud, We'll delete that. 3101 02:10:44,000 --> 02:10:44,640 Speaker 4: Let that out. 3102 02:10:45,480 --> 02:10:47,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like how throws it in there. Let's think 3103 02:10:47,560 --> 02:10:47,880 Speaker 2: about this. 3104 02:10:48,120 --> 02:10:50,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, let me ask you this question that we 3105 02:10:50,120 --> 02:10:50,760 Speaker 4: know it's gonna hurt. 3106 02:10:51,120 --> 02:10:57,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we kind of spun this. Yeah. That family. 3107 02:10:57,920 --> 02:11:00,560 Speaker 2: That's a veteran tiertalk moves. Veteran tiertalk. Oh, he's good. 3108 02:11:00,600 --> 02:11:02,280 Speaker 2: He's read a few books. He talks about leverage and 3109 02:11:02,320 --> 02:11:04,320 Speaker 2: everything else. He knew how to spend the entire conversation 3110 02:11:04,440 --> 02:11:04,760 Speaker 2: on us. 3111 02:11:05,800 --> 02:11:08,880 Speaker 5: I mostly chat the books and represent that I read them. 3112 02:11:11,040 --> 02:11:13,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think when it comes to brothers, though, it's 3113 02:11:13,440 --> 02:11:16,600 Speaker 2: hard to beat the Mannings of the Watts Jones for sure, 3114 02:11:16,720 --> 02:11:18,240 Speaker 2: like you had Chandler played a high level and then 3115 02:11:18,280 --> 02:11:21,120 Speaker 2: his brother John Jones in the UFC as far as 3116 02:11:21,160 --> 02:11:30,120 Speaker 2: the sport of football. But family lean, yeah, bris the 3117 02:11:30,240 --> 02:11:32,280 Speaker 2: Kelsey's l those. 3118 02:11:32,160 --> 02:11:34,320 Speaker 1: Guys they can be. I forgot about these. 3119 02:11:34,760 --> 02:11:37,160 Speaker 4: Those are both famous, they are both Hall of famers. 3120 02:11:38,720 --> 02:11:40,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, man, there's some good brothers. 3121 02:11:40,600 --> 02:11:40,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 3122 02:11:42,080 --> 02:11:45,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I put the I put the Kelsey's over the Watts. 3123 02:11:45,960 --> 02:11:49,800 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, mhm, impact. 3124 02:11:49,920 --> 02:11:55,000 Speaker 1: That what I'm saying, like Kelsey zuh. You know, I'm 3125 02:11:55,040 --> 02:11:55,920 Speaker 1: just saying both of them, like. 3126 02:11:58,960 --> 02:12:02,520 Speaker 4: Let me put you real quick, swifties, listen, no will 3127 02:12:02,520 --> 02:12:04,200 Speaker 4: be then I'm looking at for you. 3128 02:12:05,360 --> 02:12:08,160 Speaker 1: Remember Jason pulling from the center position on like a 3129 02:12:08,320 --> 02:12:10,440 Speaker 1: like a toss, you know, and I'm middle linebacker trying 3130 02:12:10,440 --> 02:12:12,360 Speaker 1: to get out there. That Holy this guy's running sixty 3131 02:12:12,440 --> 02:12:14,680 Speaker 1: yards downfield. Now, I'm saying there stes. But as far 3132 02:12:14,680 --> 02:12:19,160 Speaker 1: as impact every game, you know, like sack calls, fumbles 3133 02:12:19,160 --> 02:12:21,600 Speaker 1: which change the center can't do that, a tight. 3134 02:12:21,520 --> 02:12:23,240 Speaker 5: End which gets to the position you play. That's why 3135 02:12:23,280 --> 02:12:23,959 Speaker 5: it's quarterback. 3136 02:12:24,200 --> 02:12:25,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, quarterbacks gonna be first no matter. 3137 02:12:25,760 --> 02:12:28,280 Speaker 5: What offensive tackles and rush It's like quarterbacks number one. 3138 02:12:28,760 --> 02:12:32,160 Speaker 5: Tackles and rush players are two in terms of value 3139 02:12:32,200 --> 02:12:32,560 Speaker 5: to the game. 3140 02:12:32,640 --> 02:12:34,160 Speaker 4: I'm with you. I hear what you're saying. 3141 02:12:34,160 --> 02:12:36,400 Speaker 5: Safety dead, last last guy. 3142 02:12:36,400 --> 02:12:36,920 Speaker 4: It's down there. 3143 02:12:37,080 --> 02:12:37,280 Speaker 5: Yeah. 3144 02:12:37,520 --> 02:12:39,160 Speaker 4: Take the mccordy brothers out then they're gone. 3145 02:12:39,280 --> 02:12:40,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, unfortunately listen. 3146 02:12:40,760 --> 02:12:43,200 Speaker 4: Good brothers though, Yeah, good brothers. Yeah. And they're twins 3147 02:12:43,240 --> 02:12:44,720 Speaker 4: to which kind of gives them an extra little bump. 3148 02:12:44,840 --> 02:12:45,320 Speaker 1: It's nice. 3149 02:12:45,960 --> 02:12:48,200 Speaker 2: Now. I think the Kelsey's edge them out as far as. 3150 02:12:48,200 --> 02:12:51,080 Speaker 1: All pros, Yeah, but I'm talking about the impact. 3151 02:12:51,320 --> 02:12:54,920 Speaker 2: Just Jason and Travis both of like seven plus JJ 3152 02:12:55,080 --> 02:12:55,800 Speaker 2: had five. 3153 02:12:56,560 --> 02:12:58,400 Speaker 1: Three time defensive player that's yeah. 3154 02:12:58,560 --> 02:13:03,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, are we talk peak because his peak was pretty 3155 02:13:03,240 --> 02:13:07,720 Speaker 5: high up? Yea peak was Yeah, I could debate right 3156 02:13:07,760 --> 02:13:11,440 Speaker 5: there said you didn't say football athlete. If we're talking athletes, 3157 02:13:11,480 --> 02:13:14,400 Speaker 5: I wouldn't put the Mannings potentially in there. 3158 02:13:14,520 --> 02:13:16,680 Speaker 2: WHOA, they're they're playing their football players. 3159 02:13:17,240 --> 02:13:18,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, the quarterbacks. 3160 02:13:18,080 --> 02:13:20,280 Speaker 2: I see what you're saying. Yeah, I see what you're saying. 3161 02:13:20,280 --> 02:13:22,320 Speaker 1: It's like, what's your definition of athletes? 3162 02:13:22,400 --> 02:13:22,520 Speaker 2: Right? 3163 02:13:22,800 --> 02:13:24,720 Speaker 4: This is a this is gonna go. 3164 02:13:24,840 --> 02:13:28,040 Speaker 2: This has been such a conversational. Who wasn't Michael Phelps 3165 02:13:28,080 --> 02:13:30,080 Speaker 2: is the greatest athlete of our generation. It's like, all right, 3166 02:13:30,800 --> 02:13:30,960 Speaker 2: is he? 3167 02:13:33,520 --> 02:13:35,480 Speaker 5: I don't know something. Something tells me if the guy 3168 02:13:35,560 --> 02:13:37,160 Speaker 5: put his mind to it, Michael Jordan would be a 3169 02:13:37,160 --> 02:13:39,160 Speaker 5: good swimmer too. So I feel like I'm Jay. 3170 02:13:41,320 --> 02:13:47,200 Speaker 2: Lebron, Lebron and Jordan. I don't need to do what 3171 02:13:48,440 --> 02:13:50,320 Speaker 2: Yeah Sterling and Shannon Sharp. 3172 02:13:50,520 --> 02:13:53,240 Speaker 1: But the recentism right now we're gonna harballs. 3173 02:13:54,680 --> 02:13:58,040 Speaker 2: The harballs in the coaching realm was who is. 3174 02:13:58,040 --> 02:14:01,960 Speaker 4: Your biggest like rival in your mind from the defensive 3175 02:14:02,000 --> 02:14:03,600 Speaker 4: side of the ball, Like when you're rushing the edge, 3176 02:14:03,640 --> 02:14:04,720 Speaker 4: like you look at other guys and be like, I 3177 02:14:04,760 --> 02:14:06,000 Speaker 4: gotta fucking outdo this. 3178 02:14:06,080 --> 02:14:09,240 Speaker 1: Guy you're talking about, Like on the defense, like the 3179 02:14:09,320 --> 02:14:10,480 Speaker 1: defensive side where. 3180 02:14:10,320 --> 02:14:12,520 Speaker 4: You would watch other people's film and be like, hey, 3181 02:14:12,600 --> 02:14:14,760 Speaker 4: I'm I believe I'm the top edge rusher in the 3182 02:14:14,920 --> 02:14:17,720 Speaker 4: entire NFL. But some people might say this guy is Russian. 3183 02:14:17,880 --> 02:14:20,360 Speaker 1: Was man. It's like the All Pro Team shifted and 3184 02:14:20,440 --> 02:14:22,480 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl shifted, Pro Bow states same, but All Pro 3185 02:14:22,560 --> 02:14:24,640 Speaker 1: team shifted every year. You had justin Houston have twenty 3186 02:14:24,680 --> 02:14:26,760 Speaker 1: two sacks, you'd have Jared Allen you have twenty sacks. 3187 02:14:26,760 --> 02:14:28,760 Speaker 1: You'd have DeMarcus Ware with twenty. You know what I mean, 3188 02:14:28,800 --> 02:14:31,080 Speaker 1: It's a Von Miller eighteen. And so it was really 3189 02:14:31,120 --> 02:14:33,360 Speaker 1: difficult to be one of those first team All pros. 3190 02:14:33,480 --> 02:14:37,440 Speaker 1: But honestly, to answer that question, I watched their game 3191 02:14:37,480 --> 02:14:39,520 Speaker 1: and I was like, Okay, what can I take from them? 3192 02:14:39,560 --> 02:14:41,920 Speaker 1: And you just hoped that in bettering your game you 3193 02:14:41,960 --> 02:14:43,880 Speaker 1: would because it was all based on sacks. You know, 3194 02:14:43,920 --> 02:14:46,360 Speaker 1: if you could have right around fifteen sacks, you probably 3195 02:14:46,360 --> 02:14:48,240 Speaker 1: be a first you know, first team All Pro. 3196 02:14:49,320 --> 02:14:50,800 Speaker 4: But who is the guy that you were like, did 3197 02:14:50,840 --> 02:14:53,120 Speaker 4: you ever have a guy that you had like in 3198 02:14:53,240 --> 02:14:54,120 Speaker 4: your mind? Nothing like that. 3199 02:14:54,840 --> 02:14:57,480 Speaker 1: I just it was all about sacks. Yeah, and I realized, 3200 02:14:57,520 --> 02:14:59,080 Speaker 1: like it's ridiculous, you know, because I could hit a 3201 02:14:59,160 --> 02:15:01,800 Speaker 1: quarterback and and not get a sack all game. But 3202 02:15:01,920 --> 02:15:03,920 Speaker 1: the media, everybody wants to know your sacks. You get 3203 02:15:03,920 --> 02:15:05,480 Speaker 1: above ten sacks, you make a Pro Bowl, you get 3204 02:15:05,560 --> 02:15:07,240 Speaker 1: you know, you're the highest paid athletes. So for me, 3205 02:15:08,320 --> 02:15:10,080 Speaker 1: you know, I had to just embrace that it was 3206 02:15:10,080 --> 02:15:12,400 Speaker 1: all about sacks, you know. And to your point, when 3207 02:15:12,440 --> 02:15:14,680 Speaker 1: I had like forty fifty sixty tackles, like I'd get 3208 02:15:14,720 --> 02:15:16,920 Speaker 1: three tackles a game, you would hope that two would 3209 02:15:16,920 --> 02:15:19,120 Speaker 1: be TfL's wont be a sack, right, and you're all 3210 02:15:19,160 --> 02:15:21,400 Speaker 1: Pro at the end of the year. Oh yeah, and 3211 02:15:21,480 --> 02:15:24,400 Speaker 1: you got to shut down guys like us for sixty plays. Yeah, 3212 02:15:24,440 --> 02:15:27,160 Speaker 1: that's brutal bone, I get it. 3213 02:15:27,760 --> 02:15:28,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 3214 02:15:28,480 --> 02:15:31,040 Speaker 2: Who's your favorite defensive player you ever played with? 3215 02:15:31,840 --> 02:15:32,000 Speaker 9: Uh? 3216 02:15:33,280 --> 02:15:35,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, Pepper's Peppers Julius. Julius was a man. 3217 02:15:35,640 --> 02:15:37,120 Speaker 2: Is he the best you ever played with? Too? 3218 02:15:38,400 --> 02:15:39,440 Speaker 1: The best in what regard? 3219 02:15:40,040 --> 02:15:42,120 Speaker 2: Just the best, like in your brain looking back, like 3220 02:15:42,200 --> 02:15:43,920 Speaker 2: that's the best defensive player I ever played with. 3221 02:15:44,600 --> 02:15:47,240 Speaker 1: Well, I also played with Charles Woodson too. Charles was 3222 02:15:47,320 --> 02:15:53,080 Speaker 1: probably a greater playmaker, but Julius athletically physically could take 3223 02:15:53,120 --> 02:15:55,600 Speaker 1: over a game at his position because he's what we 3224 02:15:55,680 --> 02:15:58,080 Speaker 1: talked about pastors or he disrupts the quarterback every play. 3225 02:15:58,640 --> 02:15:59,560 Speaker 2: How about AJ Hawk? 3226 02:16:00,240 --> 02:16:04,240 Speaker 1: Just them? I remember when I first met AJ. I 3227 02:16:04,240 --> 02:16:05,840 Speaker 1: remember when I first met agent. I was doing like 3228 02:16:05,920 --> 02:16:07,360 Speaker 1: you know, I got draft and they brought us in 3229 02:16:07,480 --> 02:16:09,120 Speaker 1: and I saw him walking down the hallway. I always 3230 02:16:09,160 --> 02:16:11,240 Speaker 1: let his hair down too, and I walked up to 3231 02:16:11,280 --> 02:16:12,800 Speaker 1: him like such a nervese, like a J Hawk. Clay 3232 02:16:12,840 --> 02:16:15,040 Speaker 1: Matthews like shook his hand and knowing AJ now. 3233 02:16:19,040 --> 02:16:21,480 Speaker 5: Like hey, you're like, I'm like both long hair, like 3234 02:16:21,520 --> 02:16:25,360 Speaker 5: I think we're supposed to be friends exactly the best. 3235 02:16:25,400 --> 02:16:27,360 Speaker 1: Once, did you guys see the game where he gave 3236 02:16:27,480 --> 02:16:30,520 Speaker 1: double birds to his position coach, Winston mass So. 3237 02:16:30,600 --> 02:16:32,360 Speaker 5: He thought he was being cut or he thought he 3238 02:16:32,440 --> 02:16:34,200 Speaker 5: wasn't being re signed, right, No, no, no, he had 3239 02:16:34,240 --> 02:16:34,720 Speaker 5: a great year. 3240 02:16:34,920 --> 02:16:36,600 Speaker 1: Well I I yeah, I'm not sure what happened, but 3241 02:16:36,640 --> 02:16:38,800 Speaker 1: he gave he gave double middle fingers to his coach 3242 02:16:38,840 --> 02:16:40,440 Speaker 1: and then he got like a sack on like a blitz. 3243 02:16:40,480 --> 02:16:42,440 Speaker 1: And then like this is when I was still involved 3244 02:16:42,440 --> 02:16:46,280 Speaker 1: with Twitter and social media, and everyone's like, that's so disgraceful. Matthews, 3245 02:16:46,320 --> 02:16:49,440 Speaker 1: you should be fine people coming down on AJ. You 3246 02:16:49,520 --> 02:16:51,800 Speaker 1: got the sack, wasn't me? He is a man, though, I. 3247 02:16:52,000 --> 02:16:53,720 Speaker 2: See Clay just tweet Hey that wasn't me, that was 3248 02:16:53,760 --> 02:16:54,840 Speaker 2: a j Hawk tags him. 3249 02:16:54,920 --> 02:16:58,080 Speaker 1: Now, I just I just filmed another commercial, that's all. Hey, 3250 02:16:58,120 --> 02:17:00,840 Speaker 1: you go right there? Okay? It was a single single. 3251 02:17:00,600 --> 02:17:04,120 Speaker 4: Bird, single bird, God something about the middle finger dudeeah, 3252 02:17:04,160 --> 02:17:05,760 Speaker 4: I think so hard. 3253 02:17:05,800 --> 02:17:07,520 Speaker 5: I think he was upset because they were taking him 3254 02:17:07,520 --> 02:17:09,760 Speaker 5: off a third downs. It was his contract year and 3255 02:17:10,160 --> 02:17:12,240 Speaker 5: we were hanging in his house and he had made 3256 02:17:12,280 --> 02:17:13,800 Speaker 5: a comment like, yeah, I don't think they're gonna bring 3257 02:17:13,879 --> 02:17:15,640 Speaker 5: me back, and so he's like fucking them out. Well, 3258 02:17:15,640 --> 02:17:17,000 Speaker 5: guess what he had. He had a great year and 3259 02:17:17,120 --> 02:17:18,960 Speaker 5: they signed him to like another three year deal. 3260 02:17:19,879 --> 02:17:21,400 Speaker 2: That makes it even better. 3261 02:17:23,360 --> 02:17:24,840 Speaker 4: So where do you finish on tier talk? 3262 02:17:26,200 --> 02:17:27,680 Speaker 2: I think this could be one where we throw we 3263 02:17:27,760 --> 02:17:30,200 Speaker 2: clip out all the brother names that we said, We 3264 02:17:30,320 --> 02:17:32,160 Speaker 2: let the we let the fans aside, We let the 3265 02:17:32,200 --> 02:17:35,600 Speaker 2: crowd decide. Get everybody else in the picture. Yeah, yeah, 3266 02:17:35,640 --> 02:17:36,840 Speaker 2: we can roll with his for the clip because I 3267 02:17:36,879 --> 02:17:38,440 Speaker 2: thought he had a good one. I thought he had 3268 02:17:38,440 --> 02:17:38,840 Speaker 2: a good one. 3269 02:17:38,879 --> 02:17:39,560 Speaker 4: We can do uh. 3270 02:17:39,879 --> 02:17:42,039 Speaker 2: Our twisted questions, we have one for each of you guys. 3271 02:17:42,320 --> 02:17:44,240 Speaker 2: Our Twisted question is brought to you by Twisted Tea 3272 02:17:44,280 --> 02:17:46,120 Speaker 2: Twisted Tea is a refreshing hard ice tea maybe with 3273 02:17:46,120 --> 02:17:48,959 Speaker 2: the rupert tea and five percent five percent alcohol, full 3274 02:17:49,040 --> 02:17:52,959 Speaker 2: flavor and very refreshing twisted d go. 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I need the most psychotic Ray mal 3285 02:18:20,440 --> 02:18:24,160 Speaker 2: Luga story man psychotic. 3286 02:18:25,080 --> 02:18:27,040 Speaker 1: I mean, well, he was obviously all this highlights on 3287 02:18:27,240 --> 02:18:29,880 Speaker 1: his hits. You can see, man, we had this and 3288 02:18:30,440 --> 02:18:32,760 Speaker 1: we had this linebacker on our teams, a five star recruit. 3289 02:18:34,080 --> 02:18:35,720 Speaker 1: I think he came in the same year as Ray 3290 02:18:35,800 --> 02:18:39,160 Speaker 1: or after. His name was Luther Brown. Luth is awesome, 3291 02:18:40,360 --> 02:18:41,800 Speaker 1: and but Ray was on the team at the time, 3292 02:18:41,879 --> 02:18:45,360 Speaker 1: and something something popped off somewhere. You know, I wasn't 3293 02:18:45,400 --> 02:18:47,199 Speaker 1: privy to it. I was at home doing my homework. 3294 02:18:47,280 --> 02:18:50,560 Speaker 1: And uh so the next day at practice or meetings, 3295 02:18:50,600 --> 02:18:53,080 Speaker 1: this guy shows up, you know, Luther, and he's got 3296 02:18:53,160 --> 02:18:56,920 Speaker 1: glasses on in meetings and and Luther's jacked I'm talking. 3297 02:18:57,120 --> 02:18:58,720 Speaker 1: He's the guy who cut the frill on the bottom 3298 02:18:58,720 --> 02:19:00,600 Speaker 1: of his shirt. Abs always hang out like someone you 3299 02:19:00,600 --> 02:19:03,080 Speaker 1: would mess with. I think Pete might have made him 3300 02:19:03,080 --> 02:19:06,000 Speaker 1: take his last suffer. He had to just swollen eye 3301 02:19:06,200 --> 02:19:11,199 Speaker 1: like all black and blue. Like what happened Ray, Ray happened. 3302 02:19:11,240 --> 02:19:13,880 Speaker 1: I don't know what happened, but he might have mixed 3303 02:19:13,959 --> 02:19:16,920 Speaker 1: you know, something in there. But something happened and Luther 3304 02:19:17,080 --> 02:19:17,640 Speaker 1: got popped. 3305 02:19:17,680 --> 02:19:19,760 Speaker 4: And but locker room, no, I. 3306 02:19:20,080 --> 02:19:22,320 Speaker 1: This was outside of the locker room. This wasn't at 3307 02:19:22,320 --> 02:19:23,840 Speaker 1: the locker room at the time. It just it just. 3308 02:19:25,480 --> 02:19:26,680 Speaker 2: I never you never did anything. 3309 02:19:27,320 --> 02:19:29,280 Speaker 1: He just didn't ask a questions, just carried on. 3310 02:19:29,879 --> 02:19:32,320 Speaker 4: Was y was pe reacts when he saw the glasses 3311 02:19:32,360 --> 02:19:32,680 Speaker 4: come off. 3312 02:19:33,959 --> 02:19:36,119 Speaker 2: I mean it was as usual. 3313 02:19:37,879 --> 02:19:38,879 Speaker 4: Corner getting jacked up. 3314 02:19:38,959 --> 02:19:39,160 Speaker 9: Yeah. 3315 02:19:39,560 --> 02:19:41,720 Speaker 5: I think they just let him fill and p He 3316 02:19:41,720 --> 02:19:43,199 Speaker 5: probably said, hey, you got a bob and weave? 3317 02:19:43,400 --> 02:19:45,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, Yeah, he took everything to stride. But yeah, 3318 02:19:45,360 --> 02:19:47,720 Speaker 1: that that was just like where it's your own teammate, 3319 02:19:47,760 --> 02:19:50,119 Speaker 1: your own linebacker, You're like, all right, man, this guy's crazy. 3320 02:19:50,280 --> 02:19:52,680 Speaker 2: He's crazy, and where nobody just says anything to him 3321 02:19:52,680 --> 02:19:54,120 Speaker 2: because you know how crazy he is. Yeah, it's like 3322 02:19:54,160 --> 02:19:56,800 Speaker 2: a Nebraskan Dominicancu. We had a practice Saturday morning and 3323 02:19:56,879 --> 02:19:59,240 Speaker 2: he knocks out an old lineman because I guess he 3324 02:19:59,320 --> 02:20:02,520 Speaker 2: was holding, and Dominicin just palm to the back of 3325 02:20:02,560 --> 02:20:04,400 Speaker 2: the head drops him right there in front of everybody. 3326 02:20:04,800 --> 02:20:07,360 Speaker 2: Nobody says a word to Sue. We just like move 3327 02:20:07,400 --> 02:20:09,400 Speaker 2: it up ten yards and continue. It was a scrimmage. 3328 02:20:10,400 --> 02:20:12,680 Speaker 4: No, she just moved up to while ambulance is coming 3329 02:20:12,720 --> 02:20:13,119 Speaker 4: on the field. 3330 02:20:13,200 --> 02:20:15,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're like sit in the back. Holy shit, gonna 3331 02:20:15,320 --> 02:20:16,160 Speaker 2: say a new guys in the back. 3332 02:20:20,280 --> 02:20:21,039 Speaker 4: That's crazy. 3333 02:20:21,240 --> 02:20:22,080 Speaker 1: Yeah wild. 3334 02:20:22,440 --> 02:20:23,960 Speaker 2: Did that linebacker stay at USC? 3335 02:20:24,240 --> 02:20:24,760 Speaker 1: Yeah he was there? 3336 02:20:24,840 --> 02:20:26,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, he says, I know there was a guy 3337 02:20:26,600 --> 02:20:28,120 Speaker 2: coming out named Arthur Brown. I didn't know if he 3338 02:20:28,240 --> 02:20:29,840 Speaker 2: was he stopped now. 3339 02:20:29,800 --> 02:20:31,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, Luther, Luther Brown was still on special teams 3340 02:20:31,840 --> 02:20:33,600 Speaker 1: and whatnot. I think he played a little bit. But yeah, 3341 02:20:33,640 --> 02:20:37,120 Speaker 1: when you nobody messed with lutheror nobody messed with Ray. 3342 02:20:37,240 --> 02:20:38,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody mess with Ray. 3343 02:20:38,640 --> 02:20:40,480 Speaker 4: I do I have like a sideways question. It's not 3344 02:20:40,600 --> 02:20:43,640 Speaker 4: necessarily towards the question, but like seeing Aaron Rodgers and 3345 02:20:43,800 --> 02:20:47,200 Speaker 4: obviously twenty twenty happens, he's on his eyewashing, Like, was 3346 02:20:47,280 --> 02:20:50,480 Speaker 4: he the same guy at the packers as you see 3347 02:20:50,520 --> 02:20:52,480 Speaker 4: him as now? Was he always like this level of 3348 02:20:52,640 --> 02:20:55,240 Speaker 4: like trying to be enlightened, trying to have more in 3349 02:20:55,360 --> 02:20:57,039 Speaker 4: depth conversations in depth. 3350 02:20:56,800 --> 02:20:59,800 Speaker 1: Thought, Uh, not as much as the time. I think 3351 02:20:59,840 --> 02:21:03,760 Speaker 1: he probably has embraced that more now than ever, probably 3352 02:21:03,840 --> 02:21:06,520 Speaker 1: around the COVID when it seemed like everybody was coming 3353 02:21:06,560 --> 02:21:09,040 Speaker 1: down on him. But he's always been, you know, a 3354 02:21:09,120 --> 02:21:12,240 Speaker 1: free spirit, free thinker, never went along with the norm. 3355 02:21:12,320 --> 02:21:14,360 Speaker 1: It's just that because he was the you know, the 3356 02:21:14,440 --> 02:21:17,680 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback, you got to be the Drew Brees, the 3357 02:21:18,120 --> 02:21:20,760 Speaker 1: you know, the the Peyton mannings like the raw raw guy. 3358 02:21:20,920 --> 02:21:24,160 Speaker 1: And you know, obviously Aaron kind of marches to the 3359 02:21:24,200 --> 02:21:25,760 Speaker 1: beat of his own drum. I've always said he's like 3360 02:21:25,840 --> 02:21:30,040 Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant. There's you know, whomever is the opposite of Kobe. 3361 02:21:30,120 --> 02:21:31,880 Speaker 1: Kobe was kind of like he was just a killer. 3362 02:21:32,240 --> 02:21:34,600 Speaker 1: But he's not going to help anybody who doesn't seek help. 3363 02:21:34,720 --> 02:21:36,560 Speaker 1: You know, he's not going to be that raw, raw guy. 3364 02:21:36,600 --> 02:21:39,280 Speaker 1: And so I've always equated that to him. He's like Kobe, like, 3365 02:21:39,320 --> 02:21:41,720 Speaker 1: if you you know, come to me if you want hell. 3366 02:21:41,760 --> 02:21:44,800 Speaker 1: That's why Davante Jordi, the James Jones, these guys, he's 3367 02:21:44,840 --> 02:21:47,560 Speaker 1: receivers who had so much success. It's because they bought in. 3368 02:21:47,760 --> 02:21:49,200 Speaker 1: They got close to him, and they were on the 3369 02:21:49,240 --> 02:21:51,720 Speaker 1: same page. So, man, I got nothing but love for 3370 02:21:51,840 --> 02:21:54,520 Speaker 1: Aaron and and you know, hopefully it's I don't know 3371 02:21:54,560 --> 02:21:57,720 Speaker 1: if he's coming back next year or what that out, Yeah, 3372 02:21:57,840 --> 02:21:59,880 Speaker 1: it would. I'd like to see him come back, just 3373 02:22:00,080 --> 02:22:02,720 Speaker 1: to end on a high note, just because twenty four. 3374 02:22:03,080 --> 02:22:04,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love to see him. Yeah, I'd love to 3375 02:22:04,760 --> 02:22:06,400 Speaker 2: see him get a little bit of the revenge. 3376 02:22:06,480 --> 02:22:10,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, come the Titans, Aaron, come here on the Titans 3377 02:22:10,320 --> 02:22:12,960 Speaker 4: for a little bit. Did you uh, you guys always 3378 02:22:12,959 --> 02:22:14,480 Speaker 4: get along? Did you guys ever butt heads at all? 3379 02:22:15,040 --> 02:22:17,240 Speaker 4: If it's a ship talking at all? Third down period? 3380 02:22:17,320 --> 02:22:20,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well we did all that, but now we 3381 02:22:20,600 --> 02:22:25,400 Speaker 1: never we never butted heads. Beating in that basketball oh man. Yeah, 3382 02:22:25,600 --> 02:22:29,920 Speaker 1: speaking of that, that that Florida that Florida Pro Bowl back. Now, 3383 02:22:30,120 --> 02:22:32,360 Speaker 1: we played a three on three. It was it was Kyle, 3384 02:22:32,600 --> 02:22:36,119 Speaker 1: my younger brother, Casey, and me Versu Aaron, I think 3385 02:22:36,240 --> 02:22:38,080 Speaker 1: one of his brothers and one of his buddies at 3386 02:22:38,080 --> 02:22:41,680 Speaker 1: the time, three on three at the down in Miami, 3387 02:22:41,920 --> 02:22:44,160 Speaker 1: Miami wherever it was. I got real physical, Yeah, I 3388 02:22:44,200 --> 02:22:47,120 Speaker 1: got real I fact, yeah, it got real physical, and 3389 02:22:47,360 --> 02:22:48,120 Speaker 1: we ended up winning. 3390 02:22:48,240 --> 02:22:52,000 Speaker 5: Well said a pick on one of his buddy. So 3391 02:22:52,120 --> 02:22:54,480 Speaker 5: it's kind of like a Matthew's brothers versus Rogers bros. 3392 02:22:54,520 --> 02:22:56,800 Speaker 5: Now the youngest is of Jordan. He wasn't there but 3393 02:22:56,920 --> 02:22:59,400 Speaker 5: Luke Aaron, and then they had a buddy who was 3394 02:22:59,520 --> 02:23:03,360 Speaker 5: filling in for Jordan's you you knocked him. 3395 02:23:05,400 --> 02:23:10,040 Speaker 2: It was screening. 3396 02:23:10,920 --> 02:23:15,680 Speaker 5: He was like like eyes like like you know that 3397 02:23:15,800 --> 02:23:20,800 Speaker 5: grunt sound. He finished the game. But it was a 3398 02:23:20,879 --> 02:23:24,199 Speaker 5: competitive game obviously, Like even though he's a quarterback, Aaron's 3399 02:23:24,200 --> 02:23:28,120 Speaker 5: a freakish athlete, you know, like you I guess, especially 3400 02:23:28,160 --> 02:23:29,840 Speaker 5: earlier on in his career, ran lot more. But he's 3401 02:23:29,840 --> 02:23:32,520 Speaker 5: a great athlete. His brother's great athlete. Obviously, we were 3402 02:23:32,560 --> 02:23:35,120 Speaker 5: we were doing okay, and it was like to eleven, 3403 02:23:35,160 --> 02:23:36,840 Speaker 5: but then like we got to eleven, but you have 3404 02:23:36,920 --> 02:23:38,560 Speaker 5: to win by two and then they got to twelve 3405 02:23:38,600 --> 02:23:42,720 Speaker 5: and it was it was heated and and finally, you know, 3406 02:23:42,800 --> 02:23:45,080 Speaker 5: we put him away with a little jump hook in 3407 02:23:45,160 --> 02:23:49,920 Speaker 5: the paint. And Aaron, uh, he doesn't take losses very well, 3408 02:23:49,959 --> 02:23:53,680 Speaker 5: it turns out. So he got grabbed the ball and 3409 02:23:53,959 --> 02:24:00,560 Speaker 5: like he kicked the ball, is still sailing and walks 3410 02:24:00,640 --> 02:24:04,520 Speaker 5: off and like, I don't think he's ever talked to. 3411 02:24:04,560 --> 02:24:05,320 Speaker 4: Me since. 3412 02:24:07,000 --> 02:24:09,280 Speaker 1: You saw him in New York on the streets. But yeah, 3413 02:24:10,520 --> 02:24:12,640 Speaker 1: like that's the competitor he is though. I mean, like 3414 02:24:13,440 --> 02:24:15,640 Speaker 1: that was a funny, fun anecdotal. 3415 02:24:15,800 --> 02:24:17,480 Speaker 5: So for me, I didn't have that career. So like 3416 02:24:17,760 --> 02:24:20,000 Speaker 5: beating Aaron in a game, like, I'm gonna remember that. 3417 02:24:20,120 --> 02:24:22,000 Speaker 5: It's cool. Like I don't go around telling people the story. 3418 02:24:22,040 --> 02:24:24,920 Speaker 5: But like you asked, but Aaron, like he's got a 3419 02:24:25,040 --> 02:24:27,480 Speaker 5: million bigger moments in his head he should be thinking about, 3420 02:24:27,480 --> 02:24:29,000 Speaker 5: like when he won the MVP of the Super Bowl. 3421 02:24:29,600 --> 02:24:31,840 Speaker 5: But I know he knows that, and I know he 3422 02:24:31,959 --> 02:24:32,600 Speaker 5: holds onto it. 3423 02:24:32,720 --> 02:24:36,800 Speaker 4: He'll have that forever, He'll always have his number. And 3424 02:24:36,879 --> 02:24:38,240 Speaker 4: I was like, hey, you guys were butt heads or 3425 02:24:38,240 --> 02:24:40,440 Speaker 4: anything like that? You did whisper that was that pickups 3426 02:24:41,920 --> 02:24:42,200 Speaker 4: part of. 3427 02:24:42,240 --> 02:24:45,280 Speaker 5: It is like when I see her and like it's cool. 3428 02:24:45,360 --> 02:24:47,080 Speaker 5: So like if I if we say this story, he's 3429 02:24:47,200 --> 02:24:48,920 Speaker 5: be like, hey man, I remember that time he went 3430 02:24:48,959 --> 02:24:50,560 Speaker 5: on busting and you talked ship. 3431 02:24:50,959 --> 02:24:52,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, he'll have it holstered. 3432 02:24:53,120 --> 02:24:54,560 Speaker 4: Literally if he ever sees this clip, we'll have a 3433 02:24:54,560 --> 02:24:57,679 Speaker 4: basketball in him at all times. Yeah, he'll. 3434 02:24:58,959 --> 02:25:00,560 Speaker 5: He's gonna hold against for sure. 3435 02:25:00,680 --> 02:25:03,520 Speaker 4: But like you got, you probably got the Achilles, like 3436 02:25:03,760 --> 02:25:05,800 Speaker 4: you get less mobile, you'll probably be able to handle 3437 02:25:05,879 --> 02:25:06,600 Speaker 4: them respectfully. 3438 02:25:06,600 --> 02:25:11,879 Speaker 5: I had him back then too. Now he's really. 3439 02:25:13,280 --> 02:25:16,160 Speaker 2: Where he's there. I love your dog. We have a 3440 02:25:16,280 --> 02:25:19,680 Speaker 2: harder twisted question for you have a business opportunity to 3441 02:25:19,800 --> 02:25:22,760 Speaker 2: buy and build a dream stadium for a destination Bowl 3442 02:25:22,879 --> 02:25:26,640 Speaker 2: game outside of the US. Where are you building and why? 3443 02:25:26,720 --> 02:25:27,480 Speaker 1: Which on college? 3444 02:25:28,400 --> 02:25:28,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? 3445 02:25:29,760 --> 02:25:33,200 Speaker 5: Well all right, so I got unpacked only one so 3446 02:25:33,320 --> 02:25:38,119 Speaker 5: I'm building. And then if I'm building a bowl games. 3447 02:25:37,480 --> 02:25:41,360 Speaker 1: You too, assholds, I'll get you best friends over there. 3448 02:25:46,000 --> 02:25:48,720 Speaker 1: You ask, like a destination Bowl game? Who wrote this question? 3449 02:25:49,360 --> 02:25:52,160 Speaker 9: First off, there's the Bahamas Balls, the Bahamas Bowl, there's 3450 02:25:52,200 --> 02:25:57,960 Speaker 9: the Pinstripe Bowl. Then just say yeah, yeah, you caught 3451 02:25:58,040 --> 02:26:09,200 Speaker 9: himself though, he's like god damn, it's. 3452 02:26:04,360 --> 02:26:05,879 Speaker 4: Already ascility right now. 3453 02:26:05,920 --> 02:26:09,040 Speaker 2: It's there for Kyle talking circles around us and we're 3454 02:26:09,040 --> 02:26:11,680 Speaker 2: talking college football. 3455 02:26:12,879 --> 02:26:15,800 Speaker 1: This is such a lame question, That's what I'm not 3456 02:26:15,879 --> 02:26:17,360 Speaker 1: going It's a lame question. 3457 02:26:20,840 --> 02:26:24,960 Speaker 5: Well, I I yeah, the same question. I saw the 3458 02:26:25,000 --> 02:26:26,879 Speaker 5: same question. I was like, well I don't really understand, 3459 02:26:27,240 --> 02:26:30,840 Speaker 5: all right, So I'll show you how I approached the question. 3460 02:26:30,959 --> 02:26:33,480 Speaker 5: So I go, Okay, a bowl game. But I'm building 3461 02:26:33,560 --> 02:26:36,879 Speaker 5: a stadium for a bowl game, So what's the motivation 3462 02:26:37,560 --> 02:26:40,480 Speaker 5: of building a probably to turn a profit? So now 3463 02:26:40,520 --> 02:26:43,320 Speaker 5: I have to think about, like, okay, what city has 3464 02:26:43,360 --> 02:26:46,000 Speaker 5: a built in fan base that likes football outside the country? 3465 02:26:46,320 --> 02:26:48,160 Speaker 5: So I got to do my due diligence. The NFL 3466 02:26:48,160 --> 02:26:49,800 Speaker 5: has probably already done it, and they tend to pick 3467 02:26:49,879 --> 02:26:52,160 Speaker 5: London in Mexico City. So now I'm already narrowing on 3468 02:26:52,240 --> 02:26:53,600 Speaker 5: those two. Is it going to be London? Is it 3469 02:26:53,600 --> 02:26:55,000 Speaker 5: going to be Mexico City? Those are two of the 3470 02:26:55,000 --> 02:26:58,240 Speaker 5: biggest m s as on the planet. They already have 3471 02:26:58,400 --> 02:27:00,640 Speaker 5: some built in fan base because the NFL has been 3472 02:27:00,879 --> 02:27:03,959 Speaker 5: laying the groundwork. And then I would have to look 3473 02:27:03,959 --> 02:27:06,280 Speaker 5: at the economics, like am I going to own this stadium? 3474 02:27:06,560 --> 02:27:08,480 Speaker 5: What can I lease it in addition to the Bowl game, 3475 02:27:08,520 --> 02:27:09,640 Speaker 5: can I lease it out to others? 3476 02:27:10,320 --> 02:27:11,360 Speaker 4: And so hell ya? 3477 02:27:11,879 --> 02:27:13,520 Speaker 5: And then so then I'm gonna get to safety and 3478 02:27:13,560 --> 02:27:16,280 Speaker 5: security because people won't travel unless they feel safe. Right, 3479 02:27:16,879 --> 02:27:19,160 Speaker 5: So I'm probably not being an expert because I've been 3480 02:27:19,200 --> 02:27:21,400 Speaker 5: to both those cities. I'm probably gonna go London. 3481 02:27:22,600 --> 02:27:26,480 Speaker 4: Okay, I like I like the answer. I think you 3482 02:27:26,560 --> 02:27:31,400 Speaker 4: missed a key spot though, Cobo saying Lucas. It's a 3483 02:27:31,480 --> 02:27:35,400 Speaker 4: genius destination spot not very far away. Everyone wants to 3484 02:27:35,480 --> 02:27:38,800 Speaker 4: vacation there. You're thinking about Bowl games, You're gonna get teams. 3485 02:27:39,240 --> 02:27:40,840 Speaker 4: Fans of those teams are going to want to travel 3486 02:27:40,840 --> 02:27:43,119 Speaker 4: with the bull games. Where you want to go? Beach location, 3487 02:27:43,480 --> 02:27:44,800 Speaker 4: want to do a little marlin fish and they will 3488 02:27:44,879 --> 02:27:46,760 Speaker 4: catch the boys. Put a couple points on the board. 3489 02:27:46,840 --> 02:27:48,400 Speaker 4: That's where That's where you want to go. Right there, 3490 02:27:48,520 --> 02:27:51,080 Speaker 4: head over to mango deck, see a what T shirt contests, 3491 02:27:51,080 --> 02:27:53,720 Speaker 4: push up competition, have a little fun, then being bamboom. 3492 02:27:53,760 --> 02:27:55,119 Speaker 4: You had a great time. I agree. 3493 02:27:55,160 --> 02:27:56,840 Speaker 5: I think I touched on that though. If it was 3494 02:27:57,000 --> 02:27:59,040 Speaker 5: just a Bowl game, fine, But the economics of building 3495 02:27:59,080 --> 02:28:01,320 Speaker 5: a stadium is so expensive that you actually have to 3496 02:28:01,400 --> 02:28:03,200 Speaker 5: lease the stadium out all year round. This is why 3497 02:28:03,240 --> 02:28:05,200 Speaker 5: the Titans are getting rid of the outdoor stadium and 3498 02:28:05,240 --> 02:28:07,960 Speaker 5: putting an indoor because just leasing it in the summer 3499 02:28:08,000 --> 02:28:11,000 Speaker 5: to Taylor Swift and the Titans, it doesn't make money. 3500 02:28:13,280 --> 02:28:15,760 Speaker 2: So how am I? 3501 02:28:16,320 --> 02:28:18,119 Speaker 5: How am I going to have an event in Cabo 3502 02:28:18,840 --> 02:28:20,959 Speaker 5: like four out of seven days a week the way 3503 02:28:21,000 --> 02:28:23,720 Speaker 5: I could in a city the population of London or 3504 02:28:23,760 --> 02:28:26,359 Speaker 5: Mexico City, London being fifteen million, Mexico City. 3505 02:28:28,000 --> 02:28:34,920 Speaker 2: So me and Claire soon, Oh yeah, Hurricane boom. 3506 02:28:35,959 --> 02:28:38,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, London definitely is the move, right. 3507 02:28:38,080 --> 02:28:42,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I'd love to change my answer. 3508 02:28:42,800 --> 02:28:43,560 Speaker 2: Doctor, Shall we. 3509 02:28:45,920 --> 02:28:46,320 Speaker 4: The beginning? 3510 02:28:47,120 --> 02:28:50,480 Speaker 7: What else? How are you guys as a little league 3511 02:28:50,720 --> 02:28:52,880 Speaker 7: youth coaches competitive? 3512 02:28:53,120 --> 02:28:53,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? 3513 02:28:56,800 --> 02:29:01,199 Speaker 5: So I'm I'm coaching now. I coached the eighth grade 3514 02:29:01,320 --> 02:29:06,400 Speaker 5: team on the street football, and I would say our 3515 02:29:06,520 --> 02:29:09,480 Speaker 5: kids are very disciplined, and they're running schemes that are 3516 02:29:10,200 --> 02:29:13,000 Speaker 5: that are probably more advanced than most most eighth grade kids. 3517 02:29:13,840 --> 02:29:16,480 Speaker 1: Clay, you're a little younger, Yeah, our five years old? 3518 02:29:16,560 --> 02:29:18,480 Speaker 2: Is he watching him? As a head coaches? He get 3519 02:29:18,520 --> 02:29:19,720 Speaker 2: after the parents as he get. 3520 02:29:19,600 --> 02:29:25,280 Speaker 5: After Let me all right, so my kids are old? No, 3521 02:29:25,440 --> 02:29:27,600 Speaker 5: got I got to serve it up because my kids 3522 02:29:27,640 --> 02:29:31,400 Speaker 5: are older and I. It runs in the family. There's 3523 02:29:31,400 --> 02:29:34,600 Speaker 5: a there's a there's a hot bloodedness. I would argue, 3524 02:29:34,600 --> 02:29:37,160 Speaker 5: we're not on the field, we're very quiet, very stoic, 3525 02:29:37,520 --> 02:29:42,520 Speaker 5: pretty reserved, like borderline social anxiety disorder, and so, but 3526 02:29:42,720 --> 02:29:44,480 Speaker 5: when you get on the field, it changes. And so 3527 02:29:45,000 --> 02:29:47,320 Speaker 5: as a coach, he's come to some of my kids 3528 02:29:47,440 --> 02:29:49,640 Speaker 5: games to support as a good uncle and and my 3529 02:29:49,720 --> 02:29:51,840 Speaker 5: brother Casey as well. And I get I get hot, 3530 02:29:51,920 --> 02:29:55,520 Speaker 5: I work, I work the refs right and occasionally threatened 3531 02:29:56,240 --> 02:29:59,360 Speaker 5: the other coaches with violence, and so there's been a 3532 02:29:59,400 --> 02:30:01,360 Speaker 5: lot of judgment from him to me over the years, 3533 02:30:01,400 --> 02:30:02,840 Speaker 5: like dude, you're embarrassing, Like. 3534 02:30:03,160 --> 02:30:07,200 Speaker 1: I can't get really embarrassing. I sat by him one 3535 02:30:07,240 --> 02:30:08,560 Speaker 1: time and I had to back up in the stands 3536 02:30:08,600 --> 02:30:11,520 Speaker 1: because I was embarrassed I was doing the ref The 3537 02:30:11,640 --> 02:30:14,880 Speaker 1: ref threatened to throw him out of a third or 3538 02:30:14,920 --> 02:30:18,120 Speaker 1: fourth grade girls basketball and I was like, it's like 3539 02:30:18,200 --> 02:30:21,360 Speaker 1: twelve to ten, one more outburst from you. I had 3540 02:30:21,400 --> 02:30:22,160 Speaker 1: to leave. I had to. 3541 02:30:25,720 --> 02:30:27,320 Speaker 5: Go hard to go home. So anyway, a lot of 3542 02:30:27,400 --> 02:30:28,920 Speaker 5: judgment to where I'm like, you know what, I really 3543 02:30:28,959 --> 02:30:30,720 Speaker 5: got to look at myself, like I got to get better, 3544 02:30:30,800 --> 02:30:32,200 Speaker 5: I got to be a better person, like I have 3545 02:30:32,360 --> 02:30:35,440 Speaker 5: to not you know, get that fired up. And I'm like, yeah, 3546 02:30:35,560 --> 02:30:37,200 Speaker 5: you know, he's right, Like I got I got to 3547 02:30:37,240 --> 02:30:41,080 Speaker 5: grow up. And then this guy I go to his kid, Colton, 3548 02:30:41,120 --> 02:30:43,680 Speaker 5: who's probably four at the time, his first game. I'm 3549 02:30:43,680 --> 02:30:46,400 Speaker 5: there to support and like, as soon as the game 3550 02:30:46,440 --> 02:30:48,640 Speaker 5: pops off, I see Clay start chirping at the other 3551 02:30:48,760 --> 02:30:52,160 Speaker 5: coaches start getting real like aggravated jerky motion and like 3552 02:30:52,280 --> 02:30:54,880 Speaker 5: kind of chippy, and I'm like, Okay, I feel better 3553 02:30:54,879 --> 02:30:55,480 Speaker 5: about myself. 3554 02:30:55,520 --> 02:30:56,240 Speaker 2: Did that not happen? 3555 02:30:56,480 --> 02:30:58,080 Speaker 1: That didn't Now. I was very cool about it, but 3556 02:30:58,160 --> 02:31:01,160 Speaker 1: I did throw some sarcasm in some remarks, some passive 3557 02:31:01,160 --> 02:31:03,120 Speaker 1: remarks because he had a kindergarten team. We're playing with 3558 02:31:03,120 --> 02:31:05,880 Speaker 1: a pre k and he's blitzing every play like that, 3559 02:31:06,160 --> 02:31:09,360 Speaker 1: have some sportsmanship. I know your team's better, you're going 3560 02:31:09,440 --> 02:31:12,360 Speaker 1: to win, but have some sportsmanship. I'm about sportsmanship and 3561 02:31:12,400 --> 02:31:14,200 Speaker 1: I didn't get that way. Yeah, so what do we 3562 02:31:14,280 --> 02:31:15,760 Speaker 1: do the next year? We just ran the table and 3563 02:31:15,800 --> 02:31:18,040 Speaker 1: one of the you know, the kindergarten championship. 3564 02:31:18,160 --> 02:31:20,920 Speaker 4: So this is just lessons. 3565 02:31:21,520 --> 02:31:24,440 Speaker 5: What was more satisfying the kindergarten championship of the Super Bowl. 3566 02:31:25,840 --> 02:31:29,240 Speaker 1: Well, I tell you what, No, I don't know. I 3567 02:31:29,280 --> 02:31:31,959 Speaker 1: don't know. You know how how old you guys kids are. 3568 02:31:32,080 --> 02:31:34,800 Speaker 1: But I finally felt that feeling that I was missing 3569 02:31:35,640 --> 02:31:37,200 Speaker 1: from the football field when I got to coach my 3570 02:31:37,280 --> 02:31:39,960 Speaker 1: kids again, kind of living through them. They talk about 3571 02:31:40,000 --> 02:31:42,040 Speaker 1: that because we won our first game like thirty four 3572 02:31:42,080 --> 02:31:44,160 Speaker 1: to thirty one, and I just my stomach like I was, 3573 02:31:44,320 --> 02:31:45,720 Speaker 1: I was just in k nots like I was, like 3574 02:31:46,040 --> 02:31:48,400 Speaker 1: I was with the I was with him. He's five 3575 02:31:48,480 --> 02:31:50,800 Speaker 1: years old, right, it shouldn't matter, but it does. I'm 3576 02:31:50,800 --> 02:31:55,280 Speaker 1: a competitive But the Super Bowl was cool too. That 3577 02:31:55,400 --> 02:31:57,040 Speaker 1: was actually a blur. That was my second year. I 3578 02:31:57,320 --> 02:31:59,360 Speaker 1: didn't I didn't Maximi, I didn't Kapali. I was like 3579 02:31:59,480 --> 02:32:02,680 Speaker 1: off the field, like, no picture, We're gonna win like five, 3580 02:32:02,800 --> 02:32:05,880 Speaker 1: oh yeah, fifteen and one. We got the lose to 3581 02:32:05,959 --> 02:32:08,920 Speaker 1: the Giants. Next year Kaepernick runs. It was just like, 3582 02:32:09,720 --> 02:32:11,040 Speaker 1: I mean, a super Bowl thing's hard to do. 3583 02:32:11,360 --> 02:32:11,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 3584 02:32:11,879 --> 02:32:15,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. Joe Tyreek Hill he said he didn't make the 3585 02:32:15,360 --> 02:32:16,840 Speaker 4: playoffs for the first time in his career. He's got 3586 02:32:16,879 --> 02:32:17,920 Speaker 4: a he's got to go a different team now. 3587 02:32:18,000 --> 02:32:18,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. 3588 02:32:19,040 --> 02:32:21,520 Speaker 5: That Jake was playing for the Falcons. They were at 3589 02:32:21,560 --> 02:32:23,440 Speaker 5: what twenty eight three in the fourth quarter to the 3590 02:32:23,520 --> 02:32:26,600 Speaker 5: Patriots and they had that collapse. It was heartbreaking, and 3591 02:32:26,720 --> 02:32:29,480 Speaker 5: I was talking to Clay and you know, we're chatting 3592 02:32:29,520 --> 02:32:31,000 Speaker 5: it and I was like, hey, you talk to Jake 3593 02:32:31,080 --> 02:32:32,560 Speaker 5: and he's like, yeah. You was like, I'm gonna give 3594 02:32:32,600 --> 02:32:34,160 Speaker 5: him some time. This was a couple of days after. 3595 02:32:34,280 --> 02:32:35,680 Speaker 5: I was like, what do you say. He's like, you know, 3596 02:32:35,760 --> 02:32:37,840 Speaker 5: he handled pretty well. He's like, you know, hey, it's 3597 02:32:37,879 --> 02:32:40,160 Speaker 5: tough loss. It breaks your eye, but like, listen, we're 3598 02:32:40,200 --> 02:32:42,000 Speaker 5: young team, got Matt Ryan, We're gonna be back. We're 3599 02:32:42,000 --> 02:32:44,080 Speaker 5: gonna be out this thing. Multiple times in Clay's like, no, 3600 02:32:44,240 --> 02:32:49,200 Speaker 5: we ain't. No. It spoke to just how hard it 3601 02:32:49,280 --> 02:32:50,720 Speaker 5: is to get back, even if you have the same 3602 02:32:50,800 --> 02:32:54,320 Speaker 5: exact team, and you know, which really leads into just 3603 02:32:54,360 --> 02:32:56,560 Speaker 5: how great the Mahomes and the Bradys are and all 3604 02:32:56,640 --> 02:32:58,240 Speaker 5: that two quarters. 3605 02:32:58,040 --> 02:33:01,680 Speaker 4: Away from go to the Super Bowl game nineteen Chiefs 3606 02:33:01,720 --> 02:33:04,440 Speaker 4: because we're taking it to the Chiefs taking and we 3607 02:33:04,480 --> 02:33:07,080 Speaker 4: beat him earlier that year too, and then Mahomes he 3608 02:33:07,160 --> 02:33:09,000 Speaker 4: don't have the same forty times he does like some 3609 02:33:09,160 --> 02:33:12,200 Speaker 4: little forty yards scamper on two minutes. We can't back, 3610 02:33:13,560 --> 02:33:17,000 Speaker 4: you can't what's going on? And he just scored. They 3611 02:33:17,040 --> 02:33:20,039 Speaker 4: end up going up at half never looked back. Brutal. 3612 02:33:20,840 --> 02:33:21,360 Speaker 4: I hate him. 3613 02:33:21,879 --> 02:33:22,960 Speaker 5: Yeah no, I'm just kidding. 3614 02:33:24,040 --> 02:33:26,080 Speaker 2: Since we have mom, should we do our pet peeves 3615 02:33:26,120 --> 02:33:26,400 Speaker 2: with them? 3616 02:33:26,800 --> 02:33:29,080 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I mean you guys got time, right, yeah, 3617 02:33:29,440 --> 02:33:30,160 Speaker 4: all time right? 3618 02:33:30,800 --> 02:33:32,440 Speaker 1: I mean, look at my I don't even know where 3619 02:33:32,440 --> 02:33:32,920 Speaker 1: my phone is. 3620 02:33:33,480 --> 02:33:35,680 Speaker 2: It's been a we say it every week, but I've 3621 02:33:35,720 --> 02:33:39,920 Speaker 2: had so much fun on this podcast. Let me pull 3622 02:33:40,000 --> 02:33:42,840 Speaker 2: this out, let me find it. Here we go our 3623 02:33:42,920 --> 02:33:46,880 Speaker 2: pet peeves brought to us by Dove Men's. As you 3624 02:33:47,000 --> 02:33:50,320 Speaker 2: prepare the host game day celebrations, what are some possible 3625 02:33:50,400 --> 02:33:54,000 Speaker 2: whole body odor related issues you may encounter that make 3626 02:33:54,080 --> 02:33:56,760 Speaker 2: you less confident in your hosting duties? Are you afraid 3627 02:33:56,800 --> 02:33:58,400 Speaker 2: to take off your shoes when you're in your friend's house? 3628 02:33:58,480 --> 02:34:01,040 Speaker 2: A little getting nervous? You're team is down at halftime? 3629 02:34:01,320 --> 02:34:04,440 Speaker 2: Tackle whole body odor with Dove Men Plus Care Whole 3630 02:34:04,480 --> 02:34:07,640 Speaker 2: Body do O this whole body. This whole body deal 3631 02:34:07,760 --> 02:34:11,080 Speaker 2: defends against all your odor zones from pits listen to 3632 02:34:11,120 --> 02:34:13,879 Speaker 2: this one Kyle, to private parts to feet, and it's 3633 02:34:13,920 --> 02:34:16,640 Speaker 2: so long lasting with seventy two hour odor protection. Fine 3634 02:34:16,920 --> 02:34:20,359 Speaker 2: Dove Men Whole Body do o at Walmart today. 3635 02:34:20,320 --> 02:34:21,760 Speaker 4: Sweat my ass off. I'm gonna need some of this 3636 02:34:21,879 --> 02:34:24,920 Speaker 4: after I'm a sweaty boy. Right now, this is. 3637 02:34:24,959 --> 02:34:27,680 Speaker 2: Ultimately just like a little complaint session. We just we 3638 02:34:27,800 --> 02:34:30,360 Speaker 2: talk about what a pet peevevar has been of ours 3639 02:34:30,400 --> 02:34:32,440 Speaker 2: has been recently. One that's off the top of my 3640 02:34:32,520 --> 02:34:34,400 Speaker 2: head is my wife always tells me to turn off 3641 02:34:34,440 --> 02:34:37,040 Speaker 2: the light in the pantry, and it just it triggers 3642 02:34:37,120 --> 02:34:39,680 Speaker 2: me because it's like, I'm fucking I'm gonna go back 3643 02:34:39,760 --> 02:34:41,520 Speaker 2: in there at some point and snack on something. Why 3644 02:34:41,560 --> 02:34:43,920 Speaker 2: do I have to turn the pantry light off every time? 3645 02:34:44,680 --> 02:34:46,720 Speaker 2: Nate Bargati has an incredible bit. He's like, what are 3646 02:34:46,760 --> 02:34:48,920 Speaker 2: we sending a we saving a nickel for? Like, how 3647 02:34:49,000 --> 02:34:50,760 Speaker 2: much are we actually saving? Turn it off lights in 3648 02:34:50,800 --> 02:34:51,120 Speaker 2: the house. 3649 02:34:51,440 --> 02:34:53,160 Speaker 1: You have a door on your pantry, Yeah, you can 3650 02:34:53,200 --> 02:34:54,880 Speaker 1: get one of those press button ones where you just 3651 02:34:54,959 --> 02:34:56,360 Speaker 1: open the door, it turns on, and close it and 3652 02:34:56,400 --> 02:34:57,000 Speaker 1: they'll turn it off. 3653 02:34:57,320 --> 02:34:59,760 Speaker 4: Holy shit, look at that? 3654 02:35:00,240 --> 02:35:01,360 Speaker 2: Can I just vent right now? 3655 02:35:02,160 --> 02:35:05,640 Speaker 1: Sorry, it's not like a woman. You're not looking for advice, 3656 02:35:05,640 --> 02:35:06,560 Speaker 1: You're just venting, all. 3657 02:35:06,520 --> 02:35:09,840 Speaker 4: Right, find a solution, will Yeah, it's a terrible pete 3658 02:35:09,959 --> 02:35:14,480 Speaker 4: all right, Who's gonna go next, did. 3659 02:35:14,520 --> 02:35:16,920 Speaker 5: You I got the opposite. I'll tell you my pet Beeve. 3660 02:35:16,959 --> 02:35:19,160 Speaker 5: A second is my wife will leave the lights on, 3661 02:35:19,280 --> 02:35:21,200 Speaker 5: so instead of complaining, I just put in neutron lights 3662 02:35:21,200 --> 02:35:22,560 Speaker 5: in the house and you can just swipe from an 3663 02:35:22,600 --> 02:35:25,120 Speaker 5: app off off. So have your wife look into that. 3664 02:35:27,959 --> 02:35:32,400 Speaker 5: So I'll tell you my pet Peeve. I'll tell you 3665 02:35:32,480 --> 02:35:37,720 Speaker 5: my pet beeve is is political text messages, You guys 3666 02:35:37,760 --> 02:35:42,200 Speaker 5: get moved lots. So all right, So I got put 3667 02:35:42,280 --> 02:35:49,840 Speaker 5: on the Republicans, the Democrats, the Radical Bernies, like I'm 3668 02:35:49,879 --> 02:35:54,199 Speaker 5: getting fifteen to twenty text messages a day from every 3669 02:35:54,280 --> 02:35:56,200 Speaker 5: political party. I got put on some lists and I 3670 02:35:56,240 --> 02:35:58,440 Speaker 5: can't unsubscribe. It says like, first of all, it says 3671 02:35:59,360 --> 02:36:01,840 Speaker 5: put stop two end to take yourself off. Then it's 3672 02:36:01,920 --> 02:36:04,640 Speaker 5: like do you put your stop and then as the 3673 02:36:04,680 --> 02:36:05,879 Speaker 5: two in the end or do you have to spell 3674 02:36:05,920 --> 02:36:08,320 Speaker 5: it out? But no matter how many times I do that, 3675 02:36:08,959 --> 02:36:11,240 Speaker 5: I think when I actually reply like unsubscribed or stop 3676 02:36:11,320 --> 02:36:14,360 Speaker 5: to end, it just it just actually it just actually says, hey, 3677 02:36:14,440 --> 02:36:14,680 Speaker 5: this is. 3678 02:36:14,640 --> 02:36:15,640 Speaker 1: A real number, ladies. 3679 02:36:15,680 --> 02:36:18,920 Speaker 5: And I don't know whether it's AT and T or 3680 02:36:18,959 --> 02:36:20,959 Speaker 5: these parties. If anybody knows, could you help me out 3681 02:36:21,120 --> 02:36:25,400 Speaker 5: take me off these fucking lists. Man, you don't need 3682 02:36:25,400 --> 02:36:27,800 Speaker 5: the information, and I'm getting hit from every side. 3683 02:36:28,600 --> 02:36:31,320 Speaker 1: Mine's just toilet paper that's put on the roll upside down. 3684 02:36:31,400 --> 02:36:34,440 Speaker 1: I'm not a big fan of that. Like political messages suck, 3685 02:36:34,520 --> 02:36:37,160 Speaker 1: but like I hate when have it upside down because 3686 02:36:37,200 --> 02:36:39,400 Speaker 1: you gotta hold it and then rip it as opposed 3687 02:36:39,440 --> 02:36:44,240 Speaker 1: to just one quick swipe like that. It's very it's 3688 02:36:44,280 --> 02:36:45,080 Speaker 1: really good, you know what. 3689 02:36:45,200 --> 02:36:47,800 Speaker 5: I never and now moving forward, I will notice this 3690 02:36:47,879 --> 02:36:49,519 Speaker 5: the rest of my life and be more aggravated. 3691 02:36:49,640 --> 02:36:52,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, you should be thank you never wanted dangling. My 3692 02:36:52,360 --> 02:36:55,039 Speaker 4: pet peeve is to my children who want to take 3693 02:36:55,080 --> 02:36:58,440 Speaker 4: every word literally. Like if I tell them, hey, please 3694 02:36:58,480 --> 02:37:00,520 Speaker 4: don't do this, and then they don't, they do the 3695 02:37:00,600 --> 02:37:02,200 Speaker 4: thing I tell them not to do, and then I 3696 02:37:02,320 --> 02:37:05,040 Speaker 4: explain to them conversation they have they say they don't remember. 3697 02:37:05,200 --> 02:37:06,640 Speaker 4: But when I say the words that I said, and 3698 02:37:06,680 --> 02:37:08,720 Speaker 4: I add or subtracts when word, they'll actually be like no, no, no, 3699 02:37:08,959 --> 02:37:11,600 Speaker 4: you said this too. That pisses me the fuck off. 3700 02:37:11,800 --> 02:37:12,520 Speaker 1: I do not like that. 3701 02:37:13,160 --> 02:37:16,040 Speaker 4: So kids, you're not gonna see this clip. Tell your 3702 02:37:16,080 --> 02:37:16,800 Speaker 4: kids to stop doing that. 3703 02:37:17,600 --> 02:37:20,120 Speaker 1: That's how my kids are, guys. It's it's it's you know, 3704 02:37:20,280 --> 02:37:21,959 Speaker 1: eight o'clock, it's time to go upstairs. Garry for bet, 3705 02:37:22,000 --> 02:37:24,280 Speaker 1: I'll be like seven fifty Like Dad, it's seven fifty eight. 3706 02:37:24,320 --> 02:37:26,560 Speaker 1: We don't need to go up I'm like like drags 3707 02:37:26,560 --> 02:37:27,760 Speaker 1: from Guardians or the Galaxy. 3708 02:37:28,400 --> 02:37:30,520 Speaker 5: How about nothing? How about when you know your kids 3709 02:37:30,640 --> 02:37:33,720 Speaker 5: remember every one time you you commit to something, but 3710 02:37:33,760 --> 02:37:35,720 Speaker 5: they don't. Like they're like, Dad, if I do this, 3711 02:37:35,840 --> 02:37:37,480 Speaker 5: I'll clean up my room, I'll do my homework. But 3712 02:37:37,520 --> 02:37:39,560 Speaker 5: they never remember that. But if one time you say, hey, 3713 02:37:39,640 --> 02:37:42,080 Speaker 5: if you do this, you can you know, play games 3714 02:37:42,160 --> 02:37:44,120 Speaker 5: or get a cookie, They're like, you said this, you 3715 02:37:44,240 --> 02:37:46,440 Speaker 5: said this. They memorize it, but they never remember what 3716 02:37:46,920 --> 02:37:47,320 Speaker 5: they said. 3717 02:37:47,520 --> 02:37:48,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like dude. 3718 02:37:48,879 --> 02:37:51,080 Speaker 4: My kids will be like I'll tell my daughter, hey, 3719 02:37:51,160 --> 02:37:53,600 Speaker 4: make sure you do this today, and then at the 3720 02:37:53,680 --> 02:37:54,920 Speaker 4: end they I'm like, hey, did you do this? Like no, 3721 02:37:55,000 --> 02:37:56,640 Speaker 4: I forgot. I was like you need to remember, and 3722 02:37:56,760 --> 02:38:00,960 Speaker 4: she's like tell me how I remember. I don't fucking know. 3723 02:38:01,640 --> 02:38:04,200 Speaker 4: Just do it, Just do it because I don't know 3724 02:38:04,720 --> 02:38:06,600 Speaker 4: my daughter, I ask you to do this right. 3725 02:38:07,280 --> 02:38:10,400 Speaker 2: My daughters too. She'll leverage the thing and then not 3726 02:38:10,600 --> 02:38:12,800 Speaker 2: do not follow up with the deal, Like I'll have 3727 02:38:12,840 --> 02:38:14,160 Speaker 2: her shake my hand. I'll be all right, this is 3728 02:38:14,200 --> 02:38:16,280 Speaker 2: a deal. You gotta shake my hand to shake my hand. 3729 02:38:16,280 --> 02:38:17,600 Speaker 2: I might give her a piece of a cookie to 3730 02:38:17,640 --> 02:38:19,720 Speaker 2: finish your dinner. Then she won't finish the dinner. 3731 02:38:20,040 --> 02:38:23,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, because their emotions, it's chaos. They're emotional terrorists. 3732 02:38:24,160 --> 02:38:26,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta hold that cookie over their head till 3733 02:38:26,360 --> 02:38:28,600 Speaker 4: the dinner. What you gotta do, no question, dude. 3734 02:38:28,720 --> 02:38:30,440 Speaker 2: Now I said it. I'll just set it far enough 3735 02:38:30,480 --> 02:38:32,320 Speaker 2: away to where she can't get it. She can see 3736 02:38:32,320 --> 02:38:34,200 Speaker 2: it and be like, you will get this cookie, but 3737 02:38:34,280 --> 02:38:35,440 Speaker 2: you've got to eat five more bites. 3738 02:38:36,440 --> 02:38:41,360 Speaker 4: Another one. Another one, dude, is we will like every 3739 02:38:41,440 --> 02:38:43,280 Speaker 4: night before bet it's like, hey, five minutes before by 3740 02:38:43,320 --> 02:38:45,040 Speaker 4: the time I have to give them the notice that 3741 02:38:45,160 --> 02:38:47,520 Speaker 4: in five minutes we will be going to sleep. But 3742 02:38:47,680 --> 02:38:49,680 Speaker 4: once that five minutes is up, they also have like 3743 02:38:49,680 --> 02:38:51,680 Speaker 4: a routine of like having a nighttime snack or having 3744 02:38:51,760 --> 02:38:55,360 Speaker 4: this and they know when I say five minutes, you've 3745 02:38:55,400 --> 02:38:57,120 Speaker 4: got five minutes. However, when I get to the end 3746 02:38:57,120 --> 02:38:59,280 Speaker 4: of five minutes ago, okay, bedtime, then they want to 3747 02:38:59,320 --> 02:39:01,400 Speaker 4: put out the do nick time snack? You said we 3748 02:39:01,480 --> 02:39:02,960 Speaker 4: do this, You said we do that. It's like brother, 3749 02:39:04,240 --> 02:39:06,400 Speaker 4: you had five minutes, right, You remember when I said 3750 02:39:06,440 --> 02:39:08,920 Speaker 4: that we could have got that done and they don't 3751 02:39:08,959 --> 02:39:10,280 Speaker 4: and then I end up betting the knee. 3752 02:39:10,320 --> 02:39:11,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, what are the two times of the day 3753 02:39:11,840 --> 02:39:13,680 Speaker 5: where kids are the most difficult. It's like waking him 3754 02:39:13,760 --> 02:39:15,440 Speaker 5: up and putting him to bed, Like when you work 3755 02:39:16,640 --> 02:39:18,160 Speaker 5: that that's what you got. Like I see him in 3756 02:39:18,200 --> 02:39:19,640 Speaker 5: the morning, I see him at night, and like those 3757 02:39:19,680 --> 02:39:22,000 Speaker 5: are the two most aggravating times a week. And I'm like, man, 3758 02:39:22,040 --> 02:39:24,039 Speaker 5: who are these kids? They're so pleasant, they're so nice, 3759 02:39:24,120 --> 02:39:27,640 Speaker 5: but like during the week, I'm like, God, this is frustrated. 3760 02:39:27,680 --> 02:39:29,640 Speaker 2: You get to bed, it's prutal. 3761 02:39:29,840 --> 02:39:30,960 Speaker 5: It's a war of attrition. 3762 02:39:32,240 --> 02:39:34,240 Speaker 2: You either take that dress off or Daddy's gonna have 3763 02:39:34,280 --> 02:39:35,800 Speaker 2: to take that dress off. And I promise you right 3764 02:39:35,800 --> 02:39:37,520 Speaker 2: now you're going to be very frustrated. I know you've 3765 02:39:37,560 --> 02:39:40,320 Speaker 2: learned the one frustrated. You'll be very frustrated and sad 3766 02:39:40,480 --> 02:39:42,240 Speaker 2: and mad if dad has got to walk over there. 3767 02:39:42,360 --> 02:39:43,680 Speaker 5: Let me give you some elder advice. When you get 3768 02:39:43,680 --> 02:39:45,080 Speaker 5: to four kids, you let them sleep in that dress. 3769 02:39:45,080 --> 02:39:47,000 Speaker 5: You're like, Noah, yeah, whatever you want. Yeah, Like you 3770 02:39:47,120 --> 02:39:49,440 Speaker 5: realize you don't have unlimited energy and there's only so 3771 02:39:49,520 --> 02:39:51,640 Speaker 5: many battles, and like I gotta win the toothbrush battle. 3772 02:39:52,040 --> 02:39:53,600 Speaker 5: You know, I got to win the homework battle. 3773 02:39:53,680 --> 02:39:54,600 Speaker 4: So I let them. 3774 02:39:54,680 --> 02:39:57,200 Speaker 5: I give them the dress battle, like, no sleep in 3775 02:39:57,240 --> 02:39:57,560 Speaker 5: that dress. 3776 02:39:57,879 --> 02:39:58,520 Speaker 2: That's a small way. 3777 02:39:58,560 --> 02:40:01,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I feel right. Sometimes it gets ticky t. 3778 02:40:03,640 --> 02:40:05,039 Speaker 2: It's like, well, oh we got to worry about right 3779 02:40:05,040 --> 02:40:07,080 Speaker 2: now is toothbrush? Get your can close off. 3780 02:40:07,040 --> 02:40:07,800 Speaker 1: Put them in the laundry. 3781 02:40:07,959 --> 02:40:09,360 Speaker 5: That's a rookie. That's rookie ball, right. 3782 02:40:09,360 --> 02:40:11,320 Speaker 2: No, I gotta dance. I gotta spin and she'll start 3783 02:40:11,360 --> 02:40:14,200 Speaker 2: singing and just spinning and like all you gotta wait 3784 02:40:14,320 --> 02:40:15,320 Speaker 2: till the ceremony is over. 3785 02:40:15,959 --> 02:40:18,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, Taylor, I'll go back. One of the things in 3786 02:40:19,040 --> 02:40:20,480 Speaker 5: my line of work, you meet with a lot of 3787 02:40:20,800 --> 02:40:22,400 Speaker 5: In commercial real estate, you meet with a lot of 3788 02:40:22,440 --> 02:40:25,640 Speaker 5: older people, and part of their decision making as it 3789 02:40:25,680 --> 02:40:28,400 Speaker 5: relates to real estate is legacy, like do I want 3790 02:40:28,440 --> 02:40:30,520 Speaker 5: to leave these assets to my kids? Do I want 3791 02:40:30,560 --> 02:40:33,400 Speaker 5: to sell and do something different? And and why this 3792 02:40:33,560 --> 02:40:35,640 Speaker 5: is relevant to to we spoke about it early on, 3793 02:40:36,000 --> 02:40:39,680 Speaker 5: is is they end up like kind of reflecting on 3794 02:40:39,760 --> 02:40:41,760 Speaker 5: their life often is like gosh, like I you know, 3795 02:40:41,959 --> 02:40:44,320 Speaker 5: oftentimes real estate, I wish I bought a different building, 3796 02:40:44,320 --> 02:40:46,080 Speaker 5: I wish I bought more of these or whatever, and 3797 02:40:46,160 --> 02:40:50,200 Speaker 5: that conversation leads to I wish I did and or regrets. 3798 02:40:50,400 --> 02:40:53,640 Speaker 5: It's it's a weird dynamic in commercial real estate brokerage. 3799 02:40:54,200 --> 02:40:56,720 Speaker 5: And I'll tell you I have. I've been in living 3800 02:40:56,800 --> 02:41:01,200 Speaker 5: rooms and office buildings and conversations with people who are 3801 02:41:01,400 --> 02:41:04,280 Speaker 5: nearing the end of their life, and I hundreds thousands 3802 02:41:04,320 --> 02:41:05,600 Speaker 5: of times I say, you know, I wish I had 3803 02:41:05,680 --> 02:41:07,520 Speaker 5: more kids. I've never met someone who said I wish 3804 02:41:07,520 --> 02:41:09,800 Speaker 5: I had less. So if you're thinking about having three, 3805 02:41:10,520 --> 02:41:10,840 Speaker 5: just do it. 3806 02:41:10,920 --> 02:41:12,400 Speaker 2: Man, did you just want aid me? You? 3807 02:41:12,560 --> 02:41:12,920 Speaker 5: Just you? 3808 02:41:13,600 --> 02:41:18,000 Speaker 4: And the podcast the way it started that was incredible. 3809 02:41:19,160 --> 02:41:21,720 Speaker 5: This is just my experience. Just go for it. You're 3810 02:41:21,720 --> 02:41:24,360 Speaker 5: never going to regret the kids you have. Yeah, okay, 3811 02:41:24,440 --> 02:41:25,480 Speaker 5: unless they're really bad. 3812 02:41:27,480 --> 02:41:31,600 Speaker 4: In his face because you were like, it's so well worded. 3813 02:41:31,879 --> 02:41:39,760 Speaker 4: You speak good, you speak real good, you speak good. Yeah, top, 3814 02:41:40,720 --> 02:41:41,440 Speaker 4: I'll have another kid. 3815 02:41:43,959 --> 02:41:46,000 Speaker 5: If you really are the attraction, you're never going to 3816 02:41:46,040 --> 02:41:48,440 Speaker 5: be like man, like, you're right, I wish I had less, 3817 02:41:49,000 --> 02:41:49,720 Speaker 5: but I am. 3818 02:41:50,920 --> 02:41:53,120 Speaker 4: I'm so happy before my life's at right now. I 3819 02:41:53,320 --> 02:41:55,920 Speaker 4: enjoy it. I don't care for diapers. I don't care 3820 02:41:55,959 --> 02:41:59,000 Speaker 4: about that. I enjoy the beginning part, but the process, 3821 02:41:59,160 --> 02:42:00,640 Speaker 4: I'm not in love with the process. I need to 3822 02:42:00,680 --> 02:42:02,320 Speaker 4: get back in love with the process of having a kid. 3823 02:42:02,400 --> 02:42:04,360 Speaker 5: Look you, your family is like a business. You gotta scale, 3824 02:42:04,360 --> 02:42:06,600 Speaker 5: You gotta hire more, hire, hire someone to change. 3825 02:42:07,120 --> 02:42:09,959 Speaker 4: I got, I got land that needs working, goats, I. 3826 02:42:09,959 --> 02:42:12,039 Speaker 5: Got, I got fifty acres. You got like two hundred, man, 3827 02:42:12,280 --> 02:42:13,000 Speaker 5: trust me, it's cool. 3828 02:42:13,280 --> 02:42:14,720 Speaker 4: Thirteen. Yeah. 3829 02:42:15,160 --> 02:42:18,080 Speaker 5: No, I'm saying I get it like I I I 3830 02:42:18,400 --> 02:42:18,840 Speaker 5: got sick. 3831 02:42:18,879 --> 02:42:21,400 Speaker 4: Bro, Yeah, you gotta you got, you gotta orchard. I 3832 02:42:21,440 --> 02:42:26,320 Speaker 4: got a state. It sounds like that's sick. Two hundred acres, yeah, 3833 02:42:26,600 --> 02:42:27,640 Speaker 4: out there? And leapers, aren't you? 3834 02:42:27,800 --> 02:42:28,000 Speaker 9: Yeah? 3835 02:42:28,040 --> 02:42:28,600 Speaker 4: Bro boy? 3836 02:42:28,760 --> 02:42:28,960 Speaker 8: Yeah? 3837 02:42:29,400 --> 02:42:32,640 Speaker 4: Nice? Nice? What's with all packers guys moving to uh Nashville? 3838 02:42:33,600 --> 02:42:35,360 Speaker 4: What's the deal? It's coming out of territory. 3839 02:42:35,720 --> 02:42:37,360 Speaker 1: I just I think we were just close when we 3840 02:42:37,440 --> 02:42:40,480 Speaker 1: played while we had success. Now we're just just sticking together. Honest. 3841 02:42:40,520 --> 02:42:41,520 Speaker 1: I think that's why I love it. 3842 02:42:41,840 --> 02:42:42,560 Speaker 2: That is awesome. 3843 02:42:42,640 --> 02:42:44,120 Speaker 1: But at the end, you know, you want to wrap 3844 02:42:44,160 --> 02:42:45,760 Speaker 1: this up. I can see you taking those deep breaths 3845 02:42:45,760 --> 02:42:46,000 Speaker 1: a lot. 3846 02:42:46,080 --> 02:42:49,440 Speaker 4: But like the culture, well, I'm sweating because it's hot. 3847 02:42:49,959 --> 02:42:52,040 Speaker 1: But but this is what was so and I guesaid, 3848 02:42:52,640 --> 02:42:54,039 Speaker 1: this is what was so great about our team while 3849 02:42:54,040 --> 02:42:56,080 Speaker 1: we had so much success, is that draft and developed 3850 02:42:56,160 --> 02:42:59,760 Speaker 1: guys played seven, eight, nine, ten years there. It wasn't 3851 02:42:59,840 --> 02:43:01,320 Speaker 1: like you were you know, some of these teams where 3852 02:43:01,360 --> 02:43:03,080 Speaker 1: they're bringing in free age. We hardly ever brought in 3853 02:43:03,160 --> 02:43:05,200 Speaker 1: free age. Maybe we did need to do that to 3854 02:43:05,240 --> 02:43:07,640 Speaker 1: get over the hum but ultimately we had such success 3855 02:43:07,800 --> 02:43:10,840 Speaker 1: because we had that core nucleus of guys and draft 3856 02:43:10,920 --> 02:43:12,880 Speaker 1: and development. Yeah, and I think that's why you see, 3857 02:43:12,959 --> 02:43:15,040 Speaker 1: you know, you got Mason Crosby and his family out here, 3858 02:43:15,200 --> 02:43:20,200 Speaker 1: Randall Cobb, Baktiari. Obviously we moved out here, got some land, 3859 02:43:20,240 --> 02:43:22,280 Speaker 1: but he's got he's got land all over the world, 3860 02:43:22,400 --> 02:43:24,960 Speaker 1: so who knows where he's gonna, you know, cultivate. But yeah, 3861 02:43:24,959 --> 02:43:26,640 Speaker 1: I mean it's I think we just all like being 3862 02:43:26,680 --> 02:43:28,320 Speaker 1: close to each other and our families are so connected. 3863 02:43:28,320 --> 02:43:29,520 Speaker 1: From the time we spent in Green Bay. 3864 02:43:29,720 --> 02:43:31,640 Speaker 4: Dude, you brought up a guy. We love him, David 3865 02:43:31,680 --> 02:43:33,880 Speaker 4: bat Just by the way, let's give a run a 3866 02:43:33,920 --> 02:43:35,720 Speaker 4: plus for Dave. Just had a new kid. Actually, yeah, 3867 02:43:37,320 --> 02:43:41,280 Speaker 4: I saw that, Desmond. Yeah, Yeah, how's uh do what 3868 02:43:41,400 --> 02:43:42,840 Speaker 4: I was like the ultimate locker room guy. 3869 02:43:44,440 --> 02:43:47,240 Speaker 1: Dave was like from the moment he got there to 3870 02:43:47,320 --> 02:43:51,080 Speaker 1: where he finished, I mean, just complete one aid. He 3871 02:43:51,160 --> 02:43:54,080 Speaker 1: talks to Corey Linsley about this, Like, Dave when he 3872 02:43:54,160 --> 02:43:56,400 Speaker 1: got there, had his head down and whatnot. Then he 3873 02:43:56,480 --> 02:43:59,199 Speaker 1: got he got a little taste of success and whatnot, 3874 02:43:59,280 --> 02:44:03,280 Speaker 1: and then he just be came boch tr d boch. 3875 02:44:03,400 --> 02:44:07,960 Speaker 1: You know, just like just as you know sixty nine 3876 02:44:08,080 --> 02:44:11,199 Speaker 1: King Dinner for two. You know, like he became a character. 3877 02:44:11,360 --> 02:44:13,240 Speaker 1: But I love him. I just text him yesterday obviously 3878 02:44:13,240 --> 02:44:15,880 Speaker 1: when he had his uh, his boy and whatnot. But 3879 02:44:15,959 --> 02:44:19,119 Speaker 1: we stay in touch. Our parents are close with his parents, 3880 02:44:19,200 --> 02:44:22,080 Speaker 1: and I know his siblings and whatnot. I love him. 3881 02:44:22,080 --> 02:44:25,600 Speaker 1: He was a amazing player. It's such a shame that 3882 02:44:25,760 --> 02:44:28,800 Speaker 1: his uh time there and potentially in the league came 3883 02:44:28,840 --> 02:44:32,760 Speaker 1: to an end with uh good right there with his 3884 02:44:32,879 --> 02:44:35,960 Speaker 1: knee injury. Because I told im, I text him one 3885 02:44:36,000 --> 02:44:37,840 Speaker 1: year he had gotten his second or third All Pro 3886 02:44:38,040 --> 02:44:39,400 Speaker 1: so you're on your way to the Hall of Fame 3887 02:44:40,120 --> 02:44:43,240 Speaker 1: and you know, but listen, that's a that's a separate 3888 02:44:43,280 --> 02:44:46,120 Speaker 1: conversation about you know, financial security and getting your money, 3889 02:44:46,160 --> 02:44:48,000 Speaker 1: and fans don't agree with that. But he's a stud 3890 02:44:48,200 --> 02:44:50,720 Speaker 1: loved him, still love him. But he's ridiculous. 3891 02:44:50,720 --> 02:44:52,560 Speaker 5: Remember we had him at my house before the draft. 3892 02:44:52,600 --> 02:44:54,560 Speaker 5: He was coming out of Colorado and he wasn't a 3893 02:44:55,080 --> 02:44:58,880 Speaker 5: big it's not a recruit, a big prospect in terms 3894 02:44:58,920 --> 02:44:59,879 Speaker 5: of like a first round guy. 3895 02:45:00,400 --> 02:45:00,960 Speaker 2: We had him down. 3896 02:45:01,000 --> 02:45:02,360 Speaker 5: You guys came down the beach and I was just 3897 02:45:03,040 --> 02:45:04,360 Speaker 5: chatting with him. I was like, Hey, what are you thinking? 3898 02:45:04,440 --> 02:45:05,560 Speaker 5: Like how's it going. He's like, you know, I'm just 3899 02:45:05,680 --> 02:45:07,440 Speaker 5: really eager to get an opportunity. I hope to get 3900 02:45:07,520 --> 02:45:10,359 Speaker 5: drafted mid round, like you know, make a team. Improved myself, 3901 02:45:10,520 --> 02:45:13,480 Speaker 5: like it wasn't a first round pick where it's like 3902 02:45:13,600 --> 02:45:15,840 Speaker 5: if you're not going number six, you're pit you're pissed 3903 02:45:15,959 --> 02:45:19,320 Speaker 5: right and and an incredible career I meant, But I 3904 02:45:19,480 --> 02:45:21,560 Speaker 5: I got to spend more time with his brother Eric. 3905 02:45:21,600 --> 02:45:23,920 Speaker 5: You guys hung out with Eric. I think we've been 3906 02:45:23,959 --> 02:45:27,200 Speaker 5: around hung out with Eric. That's a different level of energy, 3907 02:45:27,920 --> 02:45:29,120 Speaker 5: like just just. 3908 02:45:29,240 --> 02:45:34,160 Speaker 1: Eye contact, like uninterrupted eye contact, you know. Yeah, his 3909 02:45:34,320 --> 02:45:39,320 Speaker 1: dad car CYR. Yeah, dude, Dave is so awesome. 3910 02:45:39,440 --> 02:45:43,120 Speaker 4: And Frankie too. Frankie is all time. 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Let's get back to this episode. 3946 02:47:23,800 --> 02:47:28,440 Speaker 4: A yah, babyfaceby what how did that come about? 3947 02:47:29,280 --> 02:47:29,320 Speaker 6: So? 3948 02:47:29,879 --> 02:47:34,280 Speaker 1: So Josh, Josh sitting in TJ Lang and obviously David 3949 02:47:34,360 --> 02:47:36,520 Speaker 1: were huge Pitch Perfect fans, and I have to admit 3950 02:47:36,560 --> 02:47:38,160 Speaker 1: I hadn't watched it at the time, or maybe I had. 3951 02:47:38,240 --> 02:47:40,039 Speaker 1: It was just you know, just just logged it away, 3952 02:47:40,440 --> 02:47:42,600 Speaker 1: and so they were always reaching out. They were dming 3953 02:47:43,920 --> 02:47:46,879 Speaker 1: the actors in it and the director and I'm forgetting 3954 02:47:46,879 --> 02:47:49,920 Speaker 1: their names right, still trying to dat or possibly, but 3955 02:47:50,920 --> 02:47:52,680 Speaker 1: so no, they I think one of them said like, hey, 3956 02:47:52,680 --> 02:47:54,960 Speaker 1: if you ever need you know, what do they call 3957 02:47:55,080 --> 02:47:58,520 Speaker 1: the background people? And so Elizabeth Banks is her name. 3958 02:47:58,600 --> 02:48:00,240 Speaker 1: She had reached out and said, hey, you know, my 3959 02:48:00,360 --> 02:48:03,200 Speaker 1: husband's a huge NFL fan. He's you know, the director 3960 02:48:03,240 --> 02:48:05,640 Speaker 1: of this and our co director, and we want to 3961 02:48:05,680 --> 02:48:07,680 Speaker 1: get you guys in. So Dave can He's like, oh, 3962 02:48:07,760 --> 02:48:10,400 Speaker 1: she responded, bullshit, Like they're going to send over the script. 3963 02:48:10,440 --> 02:48:11,920 Speaker 1: So it's remember the script, thinking we might have like 3964 02:48:12,000 --> 02:48:14,320 Speaker 1: one or two It was like four to six pages 3965 02:48:14,360 --> 02:48:18,280 Speaker 1: of like lines, dances, choreography and whatnot. So I think 3966 02:48:18,320 --> 02:48:20,080 Speaker 1: we went down to Baton Rouge or one of these 3967 02:48:20,120 --> 02:48:23,000 Speaker 1: Louisiana cities and filmed it over like two or three days. 3968 02:48:23,040 --> 02:48:25,400 Speaker 1: And I'm telling you it was it was so nerve 3969 02:48:25,440 --> 02:48:27,120 Speaker 1: wracking just do it because it was it's so out 3970 02:48:27,120 --> 02:48:28,760 Speaker 1: of our element. You know, we played with a helmet 3971 02:48:28,879 --> 02:48:30,760 Speaker 1: on and you're one of a team, but you know, 3972 02:48:30,840 --> 02:48:32,560 Speaker 1: having a dance, we really had to embrace it. 3973 02:48:32,720 --> 02:48:34,680 Speaker 5: Did a great job. I swear, like more people know 3974 02:48:34,720 --> 02:48:35,760 Speaker 5: you from that than Yeah. 3975 02:48:35,800 --> 02:48:37,760 Speaker 1: Well nowadays it used to be football. Now there's like 3976 02:48:37,800 --> 02:48:39,160 Speaker 1: pitch perfect. I'll take it. 3977 02:48:39,320 --> 02:48:42,160 Speaker 5: I'll tell you like Clay Clay Clay had gotten big, 3978 02:48:42,360 --> 02:48:44,040 Speaker 5: you know, he was all especially in the NFL. But 3979 02:48:44,120 --> 02:48:46,000 Speaker 5: when he did, I was like, damn, that guy looks big. 3980 02:48:46,120 --> 02:48:47,720 Speaker 5: Like I was like, I can go and do some curls. 3981 02:48:48,000 --> 02:48:49,920 Speaker 5: I was like doing curlsy and and cheeseburg. 3982 02:48:49,520 --> 02:48:51,240 Speaker 4: When you want when you go into wardrobe, did you 3983 02:48:51,320 --> 02:48:52,840 Speaker 4: make the decision to figure sleeves off? 3984 02:48:52,920 --> 02:48:55,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was me. So they had me and it's 3985 02:48:55,040 --> 02:48:56,080 Speaker 1: in fact, I got a lot. 3986 02:48:58,959 --> 02:48:59,760 Speaker 5: Now question day. 3987 02:49:00,040 --> 02:49:00,440 Speaker 4: That's nuts. 3988 02:49:00,959 --> 02:49:06,800 Speaker 1: That's that's like June July, like like yeah, a couple 3989 02:49:06,800 --> 02:49:09,920 Speaker 1: of push ups before absolutely. Yeah. So so I looked 3990 02:49:09,920 --> 02:49:11,360 Speaker 1: at the script and they had me in there, and 3991 02:49:11,400 --> 02:49:13,840 Speaker 1: I go, what if we what if we cut off 3992 02:49:13,959 --> 02:49:17,280 Speaker 1: my sleeves and like, what if we can rip them off? 3993 02:49:17,320 --> 02:49:19,320 Speaker 1: And I went and they were they were receptive to it. 3994 02:49:19,480 --> 02:49:21,760 Speaker 1: So I I haven't cut it off and they had 3995 02:49:21,800 --> 02:49:24,039 Speaker 1: little magnets on it and I was wearing a washer. 3996 02:49:24,120 --> 02:49:25,160 Speaker 1: They had me take it off and we did a 3997 02:49:25,200 --> 02:49:26,800 Speaker 1: couple of things, and they just they just they ripped 3998 02:49:26,840 --> 02:49:27,240 Speaker 1: it off, and. 3999 02:49:27,480 --> 02:49:30,560 Speaker 5: How many how many roles did you do before that was? 4000 02:49:30,720 --> 02:49:31,880 Speaker 1: This is the end of the off season, so I 4001 02:49:31,959 --> 02:49:35,600 Speaker 1: was peak. So I pulled my all. 4002 02:49:36,280 --> 02:49:41,960 Speaker 4: The July body compared to the January body. Her hands gone, yeah, 4003 02:49:42,400 --> 02:49:43,400 Speaker 4: this is brutal July. 4004 02:49:43,640 --> 02:49:47,320 Speaker 1: That's all the thirst picks for my wife were in there. Now, 4005 02:49:47,879 --> 02:49:49,280 Speaker 1: now I put a sleep with a shirt on. 4006 02:49:49,480 --> 02:49:54,600 Speaker 4: You do you want to tell me your Delanney story? 4007 02:49:56,160 --> 02:49:59,800 Speaker 2: Delanny Walker? Yeah, So Delaney had broke his leg. Delanney 4008 02:49:59,840 --> 02:50:02,080 Speaker 2: was out all year long. We're going on, you know, 4009 02:50:02,160 --> 02:50:04,240 Speaker 2: we're at the end of the season and it's December 4010 02:50:04,400 --> 02:50:08,320 Speaker 2: and Delaney's in the hot tub fixing the rehab, and 4011 02:50:08,440 --> 02:50:11,400 Speaker 2: we go in, you know, to warm up for practice. 4012 02:50:11,959 --> 02:50:14,119 Speaker 2: So I get in there and Delaney's like, damn, come 4013 02:50:14,760 --> 02:50:16,720 Speaker 2: you let yourself go. You stop working I was like, what, damn? 4014 02:50:16,720 --> 02:50:18,080 Speaker 2: Why you gotta say you got the tight you got 4015 02:50:18,120 --> 02:50:19,600 Speaker 2: the tight tights on, I got the muffin top. 4016 02:50:21,120 --> 02:50:21,480 Speaker 1: You said you. 4017 02:50:21,560 --> 02:50:23,160 Speaker 2: Stopped working out. I was like, all right, I guess 4018 02:50:23,200 --> 02:50:24,920 Speaker 2: I'll just join you guys in this hot tub and 4019 02:50:25,240 --> 02:50:26,920 Speaker 2: have some good advicees before I go out to practice. 4020 02:50:27,000 --> 02:50:28,920 Speaker 2: Just thinking that I just wanted to kill myself in 4021 02:50:28,959 --> 02:50:29,360 Speaker 2: that moment. 4022 02:50:29,879 --> 02:50:31,920 Speaker 1: Well, there's nothing worse. I we brought in like a 4023 02:50:31,959 --> 02:50:35,760 Speaker 1: freeze halfway through the season. One time, its like forgive me. 4024 02:50:35,800 --> 02:50:37,440 Speaker 1: It was like a nobody you know, and he comes up. 4025 02:50:37,440 --> 02:50:39,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, Claire, I thought you were a lot bigger. 4026 02:50:39,480 --> 02:50:41,880 Speaker 1: I was like, I am, it's just like week eight 4027 02:50:42,000 --> 02:50:43,560 Speaker 1: and I can't work out like I was. I just 4028 02:50:43,600 --> 02:50:45,400 Speaker 1: like went home, like because that's the one thing if 4029 02:50:45,440 --> 02:50:46,800 Speaker 1: you talk to like for me, I don't know how 4030 02:50:46,840 --> 02:50:48,240 Speaker 1: this is with you guys, but somebody says like, man, 4031 02:50:48,280 --> 02:50:51,120 Speaker 1: you're looking like trim or skinny or something when they're 4032 02:50:51,120 --> 02:50:53,360 Speaker 1: trying to give you a compliment, that would just mess 4033 02:50:53,400 --> 02:50:55,520 Speaker 1: with my head. I'm like, no, I look good, Like 4034 02:50:55,920 --> 02:50:56,720 Speaker 1: what are you talking about? 4035 02:50:56,720 --> 02:50:58,680 Speaker 2: I would mess with them to people say damn cud 4036 02:50:58,720 --> 02:50:59,680 Speaker 2: it is holiday season. 4037 02:51:01,680 --> 02:51:03,480 Speaker 5: I'll mess with them in the office like if somehow 4038 02:51:03,520 --> 02:51:05,520 Speaker 5: we're you know, just button has to be like hey, man, 4039 02:51:05,520 --> 02:51:07,320 Speaker 5: you're looking good like you cutting weight, like you're looking 4040 02:51:07,360 --> 02:51:10,880 Speaker 5: real thin, and like, Wiries, what do you mean? 4041 02:51:11,240 --> 02:51:11,640 Speaker 7: What do you mean? 4042 02:51:12,640 --> 02:51:18,360 Speaker 2: You know? I wish I didn't wiry? Oh ship, oh ship, Yeah, 4043 02:51:18,440 --> 02:51:21,879 Speaker 2: yeah's got it. He's prepped hearing him talk. 4044 02:51:22,080 --> 02:51:24,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a little text. 4045 02:51:25,320 --> 02:51:27,960 Speaker 5: I have a Nashville business journal. And then I have 4046 02:51:28,120 --> 02:51:31,879 Speaker 5: another interview with a designer from New York. What's your name, 4047 02:51:32,640 --> 02:51:34,160 Speaker 5: Rebecca Nice? 4048 02:51:35,800 --> 02:51:39,640 Speaker 2: Hey, guys, this has been so much fun, really a 4049 02:51:39,680 --> 02:51:40,120 Speaker 2: lot of fun. 4050 02:51:40,280 --> 02:51:42,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, did you get some time come to UFC fight. 4051 02:51:43,200 --> 02:51:47,560 Speaker 2: Let's get out there like this one UFC fight. Get 4052 02:51:47,600 --> 02:51:48,360 Speaker 2: the boys together. 4053 02:51:48,600 --> 02:51:51,800 Speaker 4: Yea, what I'm saying some fun, But you're. 4054 02:51:51,680 --> 02:51:53,959 Speaker 2: Saying my fault. I thought you meant like go out 4055 02:51:54,000 --> 02:51:55,959 Speaker 2: to Vegas, That's what I'm saying. Oh, I was thinking, 4056 02:51:56,080 --> 02:51:58,120 Speaker 2: like we're here in Nashville, like we just get ye 4057 02:51:58,720 --> 02:51:59,320 Speaker 2: lit UFC. 4058 02:51:59,800 --> 02:52:00,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can do that as well. 4059 02:52:01,000 --> 02:52:03,240 Speaker 4: Able to go over to you guys as five thousand acres. Well, 4060 02:52:03,520 --> 02:52:06,080 Speaker 4: we'll all sit in different spots, your shirt. 4061 02:52:07,480 --> 02:52:10,280 Speaker 5: Shirts space, and we'll all have our own couch because 4062 02:52:10,320 --> 02:52:13,400 Speaker 5: this is like super close. This time we had some 4063 02:52:13,440 --> 02:52:13,879 Speaker 5: bigger ones. 4064 02:52:13,879 --> 02:52:14,480 Speaker 4: We'll figure it all. 4065 02:52:15,280 --> 02:52:18,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be fun, all right, boys, Hey, big huns, 4066 02:52:18,480 --> 02:52:20,840 Speaker 2: Donny kiss the subscribe, make sure you are leaving comments. 4067 02:52:21,800 --> 02:52:22,080 Speaker 4: See you. 4068 02:52:22,400 --> 02:52:23,120 Speaker 2: Hey, that was fun. 4069 02:52:23,160 --> 02:52:23,320 Speaker 9: That was