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<v Speaker 1>to be a part of the program. You know, um.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing always stands out in the midst of tragedy, horror, death, terrorism,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it happens to be. The school shooting evil on display,

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<v Speaker 1>it just is you. You see and always see another

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<v Speaker 1>side of the human experience and the human soul. And

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<v Speaker 1>it was captured with this football coach. And here you

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<v Speaker 1>have a guy reportedly one of the most like guys.

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<v Speaker 1>He was literally shielding students yesterday during this massacre at

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<v Speaker 1>Marjorie Stoneman Douglas High School. His name is Aaron Faces.

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<v Speaker 1>His name once a security guard at the school, apparently

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<v Speaker 1>went to the school himself. And this guy gives his

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<v Speaker 1>life protecting these kids that he loved under the most

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<v Speaker 1>unbelievable circumstances, and m everybody apparently loved this guy, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's so sad and it's so tragic, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we we've gotten a lot of information in

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<v Speaker 1>just the last you know, twenty four hours. And so

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<v Speaker 1>we got off the air literally we were on the

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<v Speaker 1>air yesterday and it was reported up until we ended

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<v Speaker 1>the show about fifty eight minutes after the our fifty

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<v Speaker 1>seven minutes after the hour, that only two people have died.

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<v Speaker 1>We're off the air four minutes and it was seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>deaths in the shooting yesterday. It is now the third

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<v Speaker 1>largest shooting, worst U S school shootings ever. Um, And

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<v Speaker 1>I know that, you know, when we get this information.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody was saying on TV last night and today that

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<v Speaker 1>I've watched if you see something, you gotta say something. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to play for you an interview of a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that saw something and it was online and it

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<v Speaker 1>was on YouTube, and it was from this guy, Nicholas Cruz,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's saying, I'm going to be a professional school shooter.

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<v Speaker 1>And he actually said something, and he said it to

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI, and the FBI followed up the next day

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<v Speaker 1>and then we see all his social media fingerprints, and

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<v Speaker 1>all we see on those social media fingerprints, want you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we see this guy is the guy more than a

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<v Speaker 1>number of these kids has said. Quote the headline and

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<v Speaker 1>on the New York Post today is gun Craze Florida

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<v Speaker 1>team joked that he'd shoot up the school. But more importantly,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not a joke. Everybody was saying, this is the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's thrown out of school and for disciplinary issues, he

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<v Speaker 1>sent to another school, which that never makes sense to me. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll throw you out of this school, but we'll keep

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<v Speaker 1>you in the district, and we'll show you to another

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<v Speaker 1>We'll send you to another school that never made sense either.

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<v Speaker 1>And the stuff happens, and you know, I'm gonna play

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<v Speaker 1>this for you, and it's not see something, say something,

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<v Speaker 1>because people saw it and said it, and he posted it.

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<v Speaker 1>And more often than not, be it a shooting like

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<v Speaker 1>this or a terrorism event, we're finding that these people

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<v Speaker 1>are telegraphing what is in their sick, ugly, twisted, evil

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<v Speaker 1>mins and we're not capturing it soon enough. Anyway, here

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<v Speaker 1>is the guy that had picked up this comment on

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube September two thousand, seventeen, I sent a a screenshot

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<v Speaker 1>of a comment on one of my videos. Now people

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<v Speaker 1>keep asking me which video was it. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember what video it was. When I saw

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<v Speaker 1>the comment come through on my UH studio app on

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<v Speaker 1>my iPhone, I screenshot of the comment, I hit the

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<v Speaker 1>report button, reported to YouTube. Of course, they removed the comment,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I tried to email it to that b

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<v Speaker 1>I UM. I found an email address tips at FBI

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<v Speaker 1>dot gov. Sent it to that email address. I immediately

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<v Speaker 1>got back a m domain air. Basically that email address

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<v Speaker 1>didn't exist. So I looked up the number for UH,

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<v Speaker 1>our local field office, and I called and I left

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<v Speaker 1>a message. Well, the next day I had two FBI

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<v Speaker 1>agents standing in my office, UM and taking down the information,

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<v Speaker 1>taking down the UH, taking copies of the screenshot, and

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<v Speaker 1>asking me questions that of course I couldn't answer. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>all it was and my channel was a a comment.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, people leave pretty famous comments on a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>regular basis on this channel, UM, and I really didn't

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<v Speaker 1>think anything of it. But what I did think was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this comment said I'm going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>professional school shooter. And I knew that I couldn't just

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<v Speaker 1>ignore that the red flags were all over the place

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<v Speaker 1>here in this particular case. You know, here you have

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<v Speaker 1>a kid I lost his mother apparently three months earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>is living with some family. I don't know why the

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<v Speaker 1>family allowed this kid, who's obviously troubled to go out

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<v Speaker 1>and buy the A R fifteen. And but this is

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<v Speaker 1>not a gun debate, and I'll explain why in a second.

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<v Speaker 1>He's expelled from school. He has all of the the

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<v Speaker 1>social imprint of somebody that would do something like this,

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<v Speaker 1>and nobody after he's expelled that anybody follow up that

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<v Speaker 1>he was he offered at any point any any help

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<v Speaker 1>from anybody that knew that this guy, you know, had

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<v Speaker 1>these obvious problems. Every kid that I saw interview, for

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<v Speaker 1>the most part, that knew this kid said nobody's surprised

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<v Speaker 1>that he would do something like this. Then you have

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<v Speaker 1>what this guy's explaining here. The FBI is notified, and

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<v Speaker 1>that he's saying, well, I'm I'm gonna be a professional

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<v Speaker 1>school shooter. He's involved in apparently incidents of animal cruelty.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know that's always a bad indicator. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>any any kid that's hurting an animal at some point,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's something wrong at at any point, there's something

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<v Speaker 1>wrong there. But I want to be a professional school shoot.

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<v Speaker 1>We had the red flags that we all say we want,

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<v Speaker 1>and this guy, this was premeditated, This was planned, this

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<v Speaker 1>was orchestrated. This was just he wanted and planned for

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<v Speaker 1>a massacre, and that's what he got yesterday. Now, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you what I'm not gonna do. And I talked

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about this yesterday. I'm not this is

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<v Speaker 1>not I'm not interested. If you want to call the

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<v Speaker 1>show today in any predictable talking points about guns, I

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<v Speaker 1>have a five minute montage I can play and just

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<v Speaker 1>snippets one right after the other, and we'll get to it,

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<v Speaker 1>probably some of it later in the program today. Of

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<v Speaker 1>within hours, we don't even know what actually happened, and

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<v Speaker 1>people go out with their talking points and literally this

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<v Speaker 1>is the tragic. Let's go right back to the same

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<v Speaker 1>old arguments we have heard time after time after time

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<v Speaker 1>now that the attack is against Okay, are fifteen's Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to know what the number one the

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<v Speaker 1>worst school shooting was, if you remember, this was at

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia Tech in two thousand and seven, and I covered

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<v Speaker 1>that shooting, and you had a loaner who suffered from

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<v Speaker 1>mental health problems, and he shot a student and a

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<v Speaker 1>resident assistant in a dormitory and then he headed into

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<v Speaker 1>a classroom building where he chained and locked several doors,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he opened fired with handguns. So those people

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<v Speaker 1>that are gonna make the argument in that particular case,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty two people were killed with handguns. So okay, if

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<v Speaker 1>the argument is we're gonna get rid of are fifteens

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<v Speaker 1>all right? Then the next shooting is that going to

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<v Speaker 1>be with handguns, and we're gonna get rid of all handguns.

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<v Speaker 1>And at the end, there are people, I think in

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<v Speaker 1>this country that don't believe in the Second Amendment. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom line, though, in my thirty years of doing

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<v Speaker 1>radio and my twenty three years on TV now I

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<v Speaker 1>can tell you I don't think anybody's mind is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be changed on the issue. So the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>something happens again and we go back to the same

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<v Speaker 1>predictable talking points, to me, is a waste of time.

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<v Speaker 1>If we really really really care about security at our schools,

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<v Speaker 1>as the President said yesterday, no kids should have to

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<v Speaker 1>worry going into a school. Every kid in every school

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<v Speaker 1>in every town and every city in this country should

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<v Speaker 1>feel free and safe. There's a way to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't involve a discussion about the Second Amendment

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<v Speaker 1>at all. And here's my solution, and feel free to

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<v Speaker 1>weigh in on it if you think it's got flaws

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<v Speaker 1>and you can add to it, or you've got a

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<v Speaker 1>better solution. I mean, at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't want this to happen again. I mean we

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<v Speaker 1>can go to the Virginia Tech We had people killed there.

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<v Speaker 1>You had Adam Lanza, he shot his mother to death

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<v Speaker 1>and her bad driving a sandy hook. Remember that in Newtown, Connecticut,

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<v Speaker 1>that particular case gunned down twenty children in addition to

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<v Speaker 1>six staff members that was in This doesn't just how

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<v Speaker 1>it happened. It happened in in Clinton's administration, Columbine George W. Bush's, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it happened in Barack Obama's and now in Donald Trump's.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not about politics, and you get the same old debates.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's pretty simple. Every school now in the

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<v Speaker 1>country should have a comprehensive security threat assessment by professionals.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you're saying, well, where are you gonna get the

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<v Speaker 1>money for that? Probably the local police would be more

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<v Speaker 1>than glad too, and they're already getting paid to go

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<v Speaker 1>to the local school district, spend the time, make the

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<v Speaker 1>proper threat assessment and come up with a a comprehensive

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<v Speaker 1>plan and on how to keep the kids in the

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<v Speaker 1>school's safe. Now, I guess the most controversial part of

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<v Speaker 1>my solution is going to be this. Every school is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to hire enough retired former trained military, retired

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<v Speaker 1>former UH trained police officers, and you're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>secure a the perimeter. You're gonna have to have every

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<v Speaker 1>entry point secured. You're gonna have to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>every kid that gets in that building belongs in that building.

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell you what it's like in New York

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<v Speaker 1>City Post nine eleven, the building that I am broadcasting from,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't get in without an I D that has

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<v Speaker 1>my picture on it. And similarly, if if somebody's coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be a guest on the program. Same thing

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<v Speaker 1>with Fox, you can't get in the building. There is

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<v Speaker 1>security literally everywhere. Well, if we really want to secure

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<v Speaker 1>our schools, there's nobody that's gonna be able to convince

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<v Speaker 1>me that that is mission impossible or a task we

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<v Speaker 1>cannot accomplish because we're too smart. We've been able to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. If you've got, you know, hundred story buildings

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<v Speaker 1>in New York that you can secure and similarly, and

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<v Speaker 1>in some cases maybe maybe that's going to include metal detectors.

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<v Speaker 1>But the bottom line is this, it is something that

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<v Speaker 1>could be accomplished without going to the same old, tired,

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<v Speaker 1>predictable talking points that each side is gonna have. Because

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<v Speaker 1>in the thirty years I've been doing this, I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 1>convinced that I have carried a weapon my entire adult life.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been trained in the use of a firearm since

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<v Speaker 1>I am eleven. I've been in marksman since I'm twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>In terms of pistol marksman um, I have carried in

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<v Speaker 1>New York, Rhode Island, California, Alabama, and Georgia. I've had

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<v Speaker 1>car permits. You know, I was adding up the years.

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<v Speaker 1>I have carried more than half my life a firearm.

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<v Speaker 1>And I believe in the safety security responsibility in being

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<v Speaker 1>a gun owner with a concealed carry permit. And I'd say,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think everybody has to be trained. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think teachers. The teachers want to teach they

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to be. If they do want to, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's great. Another person on the front lines. Now, can

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<v Speaker 1>it prevent every school shooting? Probably it's not. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>such thing as perfect security, but I think it could

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<v Speaker 1>stop a lot of it. Number one. And then you

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<v Speaker 1>have people there on the ground that can minimize the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to hurt, injure and kill other people. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>called a solution to a problem, rather than you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the same points that people make after every shooting and

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<v Speaker 1>then nothing happens. If the idea is we don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to see what we witness yesterday, Seventeen dead kids, fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>or so others, injured, families devastated, broken, I mean, the

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<v Speaker 1>worst thing you can imagine. Do we want? Arguing the

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<v Speaker 1>same points that has gotten us nowhere isn't gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>a thing. I think if you can secure anyone building,

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<v Speaker 1>then you should secure every building. A complete, thorough, comprehensive

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<v Speaker 1>security threat assessment at every school, and then the manpower

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<v Speaker 1>in place. I know it was well, there was an

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<v Speaker 1>arm guard, okay, but the school had multiple buildings and kids.

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<v Speaker 1>We needed more people. And that would be to me,

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<v Speaker 1>be the best. That's the best idea that I can

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<v Speaker 1>think of. You have a better one for one shot.

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<v Speaker 1>So all day I've been hearing, oh, there's been eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>mass school shootings this year. Am I what? I follow

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<v Speaker 1>the news every day? Way eighteen? All the Washington examiners

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<v Speaker 1>now debunked all of this. Uh of the eighteen school

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<v Speaker 1>shootings listed in the by apparently this some gun control

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<v Speaker 1>group to put this out. Uh, every town for a

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<v Speaker 1>gun safety support fund is what they call it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>A full thirteen of the eighteen did not result in

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<v Speaker 1>even a single student death. And the one death that

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<v Speaker 1>did result from one of those third team was a

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<v Speaker 1>suicide death. I can give you the whole list here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's neither here nor there. All of you know, this

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<v Speaker 1>to me becomes the noise. And if none of us

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<v Speaker 1>you can't watch, if you have a heart, mind and

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<v Speaker 1>soul and not be impacted by what happened yesterday, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't watch these kids one after another. I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I finally at some point said to Linda, how big

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<v Speaker 1>is this school? Turns out there's thirty kids that go

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<v Speaker 1>to that school, and you'll say, well, they had a

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<v Speaker 1>security guard, arms security guard. It's not enough if you

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<v Speaker 1>give every singles solitary school, a full comprehensive security threat

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<v Speaker 1>assessment by professionals. You implement all of the changes in

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<v Speaker 1>accordance with the fire Marshal. I know there's certain complications

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<v Speaker 1>that you're gonna have to work out. You can't tell

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<v Speaker 1>me that we can't do a hell of a lot

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<v Speaker 1>better very quickly, especially by hiring former military, retired military,

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<v Speaker 1>retired police, former police officers, trained officials, trained officers, and

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<v Speaker 1>enough of them. So and and of course you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to control anybody that gets into any of these buildings.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know schools. There are schools that I know

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<v Speaker 1>that literally don't even let parents in until they show

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<v Speaker 1>I d S. So it can be done. It is

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<v Speaker 1>being done. It's being done successfully. There are models, paradigms

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<v Speaker 1>that we can follow. And we'll get your thoughts next Shawn,

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<v Speaker 1>as we continue, all right. The President's folk today to

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<v Speaker 1>the top of the are um, saying he plans to

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<v Speaker 1>head on down to Parkland and addressing obviously the school shooting,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said he's gonna push for action on mental

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<v Speaker 1>health issues making schools more secure. He said it's not

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<v Speaker 1>enough to simply take actions that make us feel like

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<v Speaker 1>we're making a difference. He said, We've got to actually

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<v Speaker 1>make that difference. I don't think I've ever seen the

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<v Speaker 1>president's somber tone, emotional at moments I felt and saying

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<v Speaker 1>the nation's praying for the victims and the families of

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<v Speaker 1>this terrible violence, hatred and evil. He lamented the deaths

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<v Speaker 1>of all these young people that were full of lives

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<v Speaker 1>in front of them, declaring that no child, no teacher,

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<v Speaker 1>no uh, nobody should ever be endanger in an American school.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that's gonna be I look, I am

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<v Speaker 1>just convinced we can fix the problem and solve the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>And solutions I think should be everybody's motivation here, not

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<v Speaker 1>political points, not political arguments, not talk points. I think

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<v Speaker 1>one of the saddest things that I saw today, the

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<v Speaker 1>school's football team's Twitter account confirmed the death of this hero.

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<v Speaker 1>Football coach said it's with great sadness that our football

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<v Speaker 1>family has learned about the death of Iron Feiss. It

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<v Speaker 1>said he was an assistant football coach and a security guard.

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<v Speaker 1>He selflessly shielded students from the shooter when he was shot.

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<v Speaker 1>He died a hero. He will forever be in our

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<v Speaker 1>hearts and our memories. Just every time something happens, you

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<v Speaker 1>always just stopped. You think, all these heroes come out

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<v Speaker 1>of nowhere. Although every apparently this was in this guy's DNA.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently everybody loved this guy. He passed around midnight tonight

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<v Speaker 1>last night. And uh, just as a hero. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at the police swat sheriff, the superintendent,

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<v Speaker 1>the governor, the Attorney general, rold the president, everybody. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you watch these first responders. Everybody did their job phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 1>But I argue that the only way every school needs

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<v Speaker 1>a comprehensive security threat assessment. We did learn a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more about the shooter. Miami Herald printed today. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and it goes on to say friends said he spoke

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<v Speaker 1>little of his relatives. He and his brother were adopted

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<v Speaker 1>when they were young by a couple named Linda and

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<v Speaker 1>Roger Cruz. They lived in Long Island, and apparently they

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<v Speaker 1>raised the boys right there in Parkland, Florida. Roger Cruz

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<v Speaker 1>died over a decade ago. His wife, Linda struggled with

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<v Speaker 1>the boy, said a former sister in law. She did

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<v Speaker 1>the best she could. They were adopted. They did have

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<v Speaker 1>some emotional issues, she said. The sister in law said

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<v Speaker 1>that she believed the Cruise was on medication to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with his emotional fragility, adding that his adopted mother was

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<v Speaker 1>struggling with Nicholas the last couple of years. His mom

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<v Speaker 1>died a few months ago, and Cruz moved in with

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<v Speaker 1>the friend, whose family lives in Broward County. They took

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<v Speaker 1>him in, gave him his own bedroom. He worked at

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<v Speaker 1>apparently a dollar store, went to school for at risk youth,

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<v Speaker 1>according to the Fort Lauderdale attorney who was representing the family,

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<v Speaker 1>and apparently he had the A R. Fifteen. The gun

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<v Speaker 1>was to remain locked up, and I guess apparently either

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<v Speaker 1>broke in or he had another key for it. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>the morning yesterday morning said it's Valentine's Day. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>go to school on Valentine's Day. The family had no

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<v Speaker 1>idea obviously this was gonna happen. It looks like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people saw a troubled kid and did was

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<v Speaker 1>trying hard to to to help this kid in whatever

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<v Speaker 1>capacity they can. Look it's not easy. If you're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>an intact family, They all of a sudden, you're bringing

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<v Speaker 1>somebody into your home. You just that that's difficult. Katherine

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<v Speaker 1>Herridge was just on with Chep Smith, and she asked

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI if they tried to identify the I P

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<v Speaker 1>address of the computer used to post the men message

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be a professional school shooter. And Herridge

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<v Speaker 1>noted that the IP address should have been easily obtainable

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<v Speaker 1>and it would have been easy to track down Nicholas

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<v Speaker 1>Cruise once they had the IP address. So far, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a response. You know, there were Look, there

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<v Speaker 1>were a lot of red flags here. People did say something,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the right thing to do, although I know

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes you know, people are afraid to say stuff. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>what other news do we have here? All right? You

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<v Speaker 1>know what? Let me get to some phone calls. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of you want to weigh in on this, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>let's start with Travis and Twin Falls, Idaho. He disagrees

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<v Speaker 1>with me, apparently. What's up, Travis? How are you? Hello?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing well, sir? Do you I'm good, sir? What

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<v Speaker 1>can I do for you? I really enjoy your show.

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<v Speaker 1>I always listened to it. I'm a school bus driver,

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<v Speaker 1>so I put on one taking the kids home. I

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<v Speaker 1>need to enjoy it. They get to hear a different viewpoint.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that your heart is in the right place,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that a lot of what you have

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<v Speaker 1>would be very good things to do. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>the problem is that if we if we put this

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<v Speaker 1>idea that it's all on the outside security, that gives

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<v Speaker 1>kids a false sense of security. If we teaches them that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they are either helpless victims or criminals in waiting,

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<v Speaker 1>and it teaches them they need to rely on the

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<v Speaker 1>government outside of them to to you know, keep them

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<v Speaker 1>safe and protect them from themselves and from each other.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say that, well, what's what's the alternative. How

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<v Speaker 1>are you going to guarantee that these kids are safer

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<v Speaker 1>in their schools? Give me an idea. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>we should all be treated, we shall be trained to

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<v Speaker 1>be our own first responders. You have Jonathan, come on

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the book. Listen, listen, let me let me tell

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<v Speaker 1>you something. I know this for a fact. Um as somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, that has been trained in the use of firearms.

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell you right now my kids. I've taken

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<v Speaker 1>them to the range, I've taught them gun safety. They

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<v Speaker 1>know everything. They could care less Like I was passionate

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<v Speaker 1>at eleven years of age, um that I wanted a

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<v Speaker 1>bi a good marksman. Everybody has their own individual interest.

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<v Speaker 1>My kids are like, ad that, Okay, that was fun,

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<v Speaker 1>Can we go to eat now? That's about how much

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<v Speaker 1>interest they show. Um. Same with self defense. I trained

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<v Speaker 1>five days a week because I love it. It's something

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<v Speaker 1>that's a passion of mine. But it's also a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of hard work, and it takes a lot of dedication

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of commitment and a lot of time.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta you gotta really run a discipline life to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. Uh. The idea that we're gonna ask kids

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<v Speaker 1>that are teenagers to be the front line of their defense,

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<v Speaker 1>I think is a bit much. I think the answer,

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<v Speaker 1>the solution is we have professionals that secure every building

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<v Speaker 1>in New York City, every big building in New York City,

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<v Speaker 1>every office building in New York City, and most department

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<v Speaker 1>buildings have doorman. And it's near, if not impossible, to

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<v Speaker 1>get into any of these buildings without past sing security.

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<v Speaker 1>So the idea, you know, after all these incidents, that

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<v Speaker 1>that we're just gonna say, all right, you kids, you'd

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<v Speaker 1>be self reliant. I don't see that working. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a big believer in individual um responsibility and self reliance

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<v Speaker 1>and all of that. But you know, when you're in

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<v Speaker 1>a controlled environment like this, I don't see that you

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<v Speaker 1>can get out there and start defending yourself if somebody

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<v Speaker 1>comes in unbeknownst to you. Again, you know, what are

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<v Speaker 1>we gonna do. We're gonna arm teenagers. That's not gonna happen,

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<v Speaker 1>nor should it happen. So I just disagree, um, And

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<v Speaker 1>you know you gotta ask yourself this question. Forget again.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm I'm asking everybody to put away their

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<v Speaker 1>talking points. If you start giving me talking points, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>moving on. But if you're in any administrative building, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care where you are, court building, any administrative building,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's an active shooter, would you want to know

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<v Speaker 1>it there were trained professional, armed retired military, trained professional armed,

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<v Speaker 1>retired trained police answers yes, And if you answer no

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<v Speaker 1>to that, I I it makes no sense to me

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<v Speaker 1>at all. It just doesn't. And I think we have

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<v Speaker 1>the capacity, if we have the will, to really put

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<v Speaker 1>security of these kids first, to get the job done. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go, let's say hi to Laurie is in Minnesota. Hi, Laurie,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you glad you called? Thank you? Sean. I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to tell you about our school's program to keep

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<v Speaker 1>our students and teachers safe. And it's a national program

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<v Speaker 1>based on the ALICE program. Are you familiar with that?

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<v Speaker 1>I am not. No. It's an acronym for alert, lockdown, inform,

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<v Speaker 1>counter and evacuate. And essentially what it is is that

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<v Speaker 1>we as teachers and administrators, we all have each other's

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<v Speaker 1>cell phone numbers. And if there there's only one unlocked

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<v Speaker 1>entrance to our school building once all the students are in,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's only one entry point from that point all

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<v Speaker 1>over the building, they try they have cameras to isolate

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<v Speaker 1>where the shooter is. They will isolate the people that

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<v Speaker 1>are in the direct line of content. You know, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>we're not going to evacuate those, but they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>evacuate everybody else around the building. While so, you've had

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<v Speaker 1>a full assessment, you've had a full threat assessment, a

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<v Speaker 1>comprehensive security assessment, and you're you're saying that this works.

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<v Speaker 1>You're saying that based on on your knowledge of all

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<v Speaker 1>these other shootings, if if these plans were put in

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<v Speaker 1>place else where, you believe it would have worked. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>But I am amazed at the size of the campus

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<v Speaker 1>in Florida. It was huge campus. It was huge, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's bigger than the small towns that I live in

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<v Speaker 1>around here. Well, that means you're gonna have to hire

0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:05.080
<v Speaker 1>more people look securing the perimeter. I mean, if every

0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:07.480
<v Speaker 1>kid that goes into the school and every teacher that

0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:10.600
<v Speaker 1>goes into the school, I have an idea to get

0:27:10.600 --> 0:27:13.359
<v Speaker 1>into both buildings that I work at here in New

0:27:13.440 --> 0:27:16.399
<v Speaker 1>York City. Um, it doesn't bother me. I just pull

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<v Speaker 1>it out of my pocket. I hit the security. Literally

0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:22.080
<v Speaker 1>have to walk through a secure gate every day to

0:27:22.119 --> 0:27:25.480
<v Speaker 1>get into the buildings I work at. And it doesn't

0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 1>bother me. Why couldn't every student have that? There were

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<v Speaker 1>more than people that work in the buildings that I'm in.

0:27:30.080 --> 0:27:34.920
<v Speaker 1>These buildings are massive, so I I think that's very doable.

0:27:35.000 --> 0:27:37.080
<v Speaker 1>And then you have, you know, once the kids are in,

0:27:37.119 --> 0:27:40.720
<v Speaker 1>then you have to have some perimeter monitoring of some kind.

0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:44.119
<v Speaker 1>And I don't care if it's done via you know,

0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 1>some type of security cameras with somebody actually watching or

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:52.000
<v Speaker 1>actually having people at at key points around the perimeter

0:27:52.040 --> 0:27:56.359
<v Speaker 1>of the school, then strategically placed within the school. And

0:27:56.440 --> 0:27:58.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, I would bet over time that the kids

0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:01.200
<v Speaker 1>would get to love the police officers that they met.

0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:04.359
<v Speaker 1>I bet they love the former military guys that they met.

0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:07.320
<v Speaker 1>I bet it would be great for relations. They begin

0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:10.480
<v Speaker 1>to understand them, they can talk to the kids. I

0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:12.480
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I mean, I remember when I was in school,

0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:15.240
<v Speaker 1>I was best friends with the janitor. I'm gonna be

0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 1>smoking in the bathroom every chance I got, and he

0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:22.000
<v Speaker 1>never ratted me out. Um. But you know what I'm saying,

0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:25.679
<v Speaker 1>Laurie and I, Uh, that's a great example. All right,

0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 1>let's go go ahead. Last word. The last word is

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<v Speaker 1>I think if those types of people are available to school,

0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:39.000
<v Speaker 1>would welcome them. Agreed, they are available, and I guarantee

0:28:39.040 --> 0:28:43.520
<v Speaker 1>if we asked for volunteers, we'd have probably thousands. Joe

0:28:43.560 --> 0:28:45.800
<v Speaker 1>in Pittsburgh. Thank you so much, Laurie. What's up, Joe?

0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:49.320
<v Speaker 1>How are you Sean? It's a pleasure. Nice to talk

0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:51.880
<v Speaker 1>to you. What can I do for you, sir? Nice

0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:55.360
<v Speaker 1>to talk to you. First of all, ALICE training is

0:28:55.480 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>just uh, you sit through us a hundred and fifty dollars,

0:28:59.040 --> 0:29:01.760
<v Speaker 1>sit through a seminar, and then you're certified to go

0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 1>teach that training and buy the materials from the company

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 1>that does ALICE training. So you have someone who sits

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 1>through an hour and a half about threat assessments and

0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:14.080
<v Speaker 1>mitigating threats, and then they're supposed to go back to

0:29:14.120 --> 0:29:17.880
<v Speaker 1>their schools and teach them. That doesn't work. What you

0:29:17.960 --> 0:29:22.200
<v Speaker 1>need is a version of school security like Sasha and

0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Malia had and now Baron has. Of course, the schools

0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:30.400
<v Speaker 1>that the President's children go to are a much higher

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:35.120
<v Speaker 1>threat level, so as other schools were, of course looked

0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 1>at by security professionals. You mitigate the threats, and then

0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:43.400
<v Speaker 1>there are investments in good cameras that can monitor. Good

0:29:43.440 --> 0:29:46.680
<v Speaker 1>cameras with the right software can monitor a door and

0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:52.960
<v Speaker 1>if any pixel in that changes, it can alert someone. I've, yes,

0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:57.719
<v Speaker 1>I've I'm a disabled American. I've volunteered with a veteran

0:29:57.800 --> 0:29:59.760
<v Speaker 1>owned company. I'm not going to mention their name, and

0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:02.120
<v Speaker 1>they came out of the d D space and have

0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:07.400
<v Speaker 1>tried to help schools with their comprehensive security an enterprise

0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:11.680
<v Speaker 1>system plugging in all their security assets and running it autonomously.

0:30:12.600 --> 0:30:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Listen without giving a lot of details away. I have

0:30:15.600 --> 0:30:18.720
<v Speaker 1>probably one of the most sophisticated home security systems you

0:30:18.760 --> 0:30:23.080
<v Speaker 1>can ever have. After a threat assessment and a security assessment,

0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 1>after you know, over the years being in the public,

0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:28.520
<v Speaker 1>I may shock you some people don't like me a

0:30:28.600 --> 0:30:30.960
<v Speaker 1>lot and they made it known they don't like me

0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:35.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot. Um. So I know from firsthand experience what

0:30:35.680 --> 0:30:38.440
<v Speaker 1>these guys can do and how good they are. And

0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:43.000
<v Speaker 1>the equipment is so inexpensive. Now, I mean, to get

0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:46.880
<v Speaker 1>cameras in your home. It's it's so I mean, it

0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:52.080
<v Speaker 1>is just doable for everybody. The cost isn't the issue here,

0:30:52.520 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 1>the resolve, the desire to fix the problem and solve

0:30:56.520 --> 0:31:02.560
<v Speaker 1>the problem. And um, it's just how many more times

0:31:02.560 --> 0:31:04.800
<v Speaker 1>do we have to go down the same road. It

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:09.719
<v Speaker 1>happens we have the same boring, typical talking points, nothing

0:31:09.760 --> 0:31:13.480
<v Speaker 1>gets done. How about this time we put real solutions

0:31:13.480 --> 0:31:17.880
<v Speaker 1>in place. And I'm saying to everybody, just transcend your

0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 1>political argue. You're not gonna change anybody's mind. Abortion guns,

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:26.840
<v Speaker 1>You're not gonna change anybody's mind. So let's put the

0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:31.520
<v Speaker 1>security assessment threat assessment every school in the country, even

0:31:31.600 --> 0:31:35.240
<v Speaker 1>nursery school, every school, and then go from there, and

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:38.240
<v Speaker 1>then every school needs to have that comprehensive plan implemented.

0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:42.080
<v Speaker 1>I just I just don't believe that would not be

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<v Speaker 1>an overwhelmingly successful program. You can't compare ourselves to every

0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 1>other countries because we say we're exceptional. The reason I

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:54.200
<v Speaker 1>raised that is it in this case, we're gonna say

0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 1>we're exceptional country. If you look at other pure countries,

0:31:57.920 --> 0:32:00.880
<v Speaker 1>in places like Japan or Western Europe, they do not

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<v Speaker 1>have the incidents of violence against children that we have

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<v Speaker 1>in this country. We we cannot in education and health

0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:10.400
<v Speaker 1>and death by guns, look in the mirror and say, actually,

0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:13.480
<v Speaker 1>if we're gonna be exceptional, we need to know we're

0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:16.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna we're gonna improve Washington if you match it against

0:32:17.360 --> 0:32:21.560
<v Speaker 1>public opinion polls of their constituents. Lawmakers in that city

0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 1>are failing American people every day. Thank you so much, Brian.

0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:27.120
<v Speaker 1>And that, of course is the question. So much about

0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:30.920
<v Speaker 1>American exceptionalism is wonderful. How different we are from the

0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:33.560
<v Speaker 1>rest of the world is wonderful. The country of opportunity

0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:36.959
<v Speaker 1>and true freedom, and this part of the American exceptional

0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:39.840
<v Speaker 1>story isn't so easy to sell to the rest of

0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:42.000
<v Speaker 1>the world. For President Trump, there's been a theme in

0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:44.600
<v Speaker 1>many of his remarks. After that church shooting in Texas,

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:47.120
<v Speaker 1>President Trump said it would be a little too soon

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 1>to talk about gun laws. After the massacre in Las Vegas,

0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:53.040
<v Speaker 1>he said, we'll be talking quote, we will talk about

0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:55.600
<v Speaker 1>gun laws as time goes on. David, there has not

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<v Speaker 1>been a very serious public policy conversation about gun control

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:02.920
<v Speaker 1>here at this administration, in this White House. The President

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<v Speaker 1>tweeted today, no child, teacher, or anyone else should ever

0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:09.080
<v Speaker 1>feel unsafe in an American school. We will see if

0:33:09.120 --> 0:33:12.480
<v Speaker 1>this is the one that forces that policy conversation. Yet again.

0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:15.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you just you cannot have these conversations with

0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:20.240
<v Speaker 1>at least saying um every time. We are the only

0:33:20.560 --> 0:33:24.320
<v Speaker 1>nation that has this kind of violence, and presumably gun

0:33:24.400 --> 0:33:27.960
<v Speaker 1>violence obviously UH in particular focused on our children. It

0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:30.520
<v Speaker 1>is just ridiculous. My daughter is coming home from an

0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:33.840
<v Speaker 1>urban high school in the next twenty minutes. It's UM.

0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:39.040
<v Speaker 1>It's like no other country UH lives or allows themselves

0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 1>to live. And here we are another time having a

0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:45.280
<v Speaker 1>discussion about guns as being a security issue for our children.

0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:48.280
<v Speaker 1>I know. I was just talking to a seven year

0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:50.440
<v Speaker 1>old on my show this week who lost her six

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:53.760
<v Speaker 1>year old friend at a school shooting in in South Carolina.

0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:55.640
<v Speaker 1>She wrote as she wrote a letter to the president,

0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:56.920
<v Speaker 1>and I couldn't have put it better, you know. The

0:33:56.920 --> 0:33:58.880
<v Speaker 1>seven year old said, Mr President, how are you going

0:33:58.920 --> 0:34:01.880
<v Speaker 1>to keep children safe in this country? I have ten

0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:05.480
<v Speaker 1>nieces and nephews. We're talking about bump stocks, We're talking

0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:09.880
<v Speaker 1>about legislation. A child of God is dead. Cannot we

0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:14.200
<v Speaker 1>acknowledge in this country that we can't we cannot accept this.

0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:17.440
<v Speaker 1>I can't do a wolf, so we can't do it.

0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:21.239
<v Speaker 1>All right, We're gonna get back to you. But you're you're, you're, you're.

0:34:21.320 --> 0:34:26.360
<v Speaker 1>Obviously this is so emotional. Unfortunately it happens all too often,

0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:28.520
<v Speaker 1>and as a result, people say, we've got to learn

0:34:28.520 --> 0:34:33.680
<v Speaker 1>some lessons. Unfortunately, lessons are never never learned. This, according

0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:37.160
<v Speaker 1>to Bill Bratton, the former NYPD commissioner, is yet another

0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:40.000
<v Speaker 1>example of how this country seems to have the sick

0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:45.600
<v Speaker 1>preoccupation with guns and it manifests itself into these really

0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:50.160
<v Speaker 1>terrible mass shootings. This is a sickness that has infected

0:34:50.400 --> 0:34:54.600
<v Speaker 1>the country unchecked and unfettered gun violence. But with every

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:57.799
<v Speaker 1>deadly shooting in this country, the odds get worse and

0:34:57.880 --> 0:35:00.560
<v Speaker 1>worse and worse. This is who we are right now,

0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:02.480
<v Speaker 1>But is this really who we want to be a

0:35:02.480 --> 0:35:06.880
<v Speaker 1>country where anybody at any time could be shot to death,

0:35:07.120 --> 0:35:08.960
<v Speaker 1>and then when a bunch of people are killed and

0:35:09.040 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 1>lives are shattered, we are sad and maybe angry, and

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:15.439
<v Speaker 1>then we forget and we move on until the next time.

0:35:15.600 --> 0:35:18.840
<v Speaker 1>All right, all the predictable arguments that we hear after

0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 1>every shooting, and you know this is sadly. I mean,

0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:25.560
<v Speaker 1>it happens literally within the hour before we even have

0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:30.200
<v Speaker 1>the details of what happens coming in. You just it

0:35:30.280 --> 0:35:33.239
<v Speaker 1>just goes right there and it's going to end the

0:35:33.360 --> 0:35:36.640
<v Speaker 1>same predictable result. And I've said there's many times I've

0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:40.160
<v Speaker 1>been in radio, thirty years, I've been on TV. Now

0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:43.040
<v Speaker 1>this is my twenty three year. In all these years,

0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:46.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I've convinced anybody about my position on

0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:50.080
<v Speaker 1>the Second Amendment. The it's not going to change, nor

0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:53.239
<v Speaker 1>is it the answer. So okay, so let's think out

0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:57.880
<v Speaker 1>of the box. Putting those predictable debates aside. Why shouldn't

0:35:57.920 --> 0:36:00.880
<v Speaker 1>the debate in the country be how do we keep

0:36:01.120 --> 0:36:04.239
<v Speaker 1>in this instance, our kids safe in school? Do we

0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:08.520
<v Speaker 1>have the ability to secure every school in America? And

0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:10.480
<v Speaker 1>I think the answer is yes. And I think the

0:36:10.520 --> 0:36:15.480
<v Speaker 1>answer is also would be tied into retired military, retired police, officers,

0:36:15.719 --> 0:36:20.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, fundamental security um of of that we do

0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:24.160
<v Speaker 1>every single day. In every building that I walk into

0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:27.000
<v Speaker 1>in New York, you have to be cleared. You you

0:36:27.080 --> 0:36:29.440
<v Speaker 1>don't get to just oh, let me run to the elevator.

0:36:29.480 --> 0:36:32.200
<v Speaker 1>It never happens, and if anybody attempts to do so,

0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:35.000
<v Speaker 1>it's a big deal. And and that's pretty much every

0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:37.440
<v Speaker 1>building in New York. That's a post nine eleven world,

0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:40.400
<v Speaker 1>although many places had a lot of these systems in

0:36:40.440 --> 0:36:42.839
<v Speaker 1>place even prior to nine eleven. You just don't get

0:36:42.880 --> 0:36:45.239
<v Speaker 1>to walk into any office building in New York and

0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:49.160
<v Speaker 1>it's secure and it works. And I think at the

0:36:49.360 --> 0:36:51.840
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, if we decide just

0:36:51.920 --> 0:36:54.640
<v Speaker 1>pick any one school wherever you happen to live, and

0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:57.160
<v Speaker 1>if we decide we're going to keep that school safe,

0:36:57.360 --> 0:36:59.879
<v Speaker 1>absolutely it can be done anyway. So I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>the predict the predictable arguments of productive number one, nor

0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:06.400
<v Speaker 1>do I think they apply number two. Nor do I

0:37:06.440 --> 0:37:10.000
<v Speaker 1>think the facts bear out what everybody seems to you know, say,

0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:14.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, uh, reflexively after something tragic like this happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Eaton is with US program director of Faster's I'm

0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 1>sorry Faster Saves Lives dot org. John Lott, he's with

0:37:22.160 --> 0:37:25.160
<v Speaker 1>the he's the president of the Crime Prevention Research More Guns,

0:37:25.239 --> 0:37:28.680
<v Speaker 1>Less Crime, his best selling book, multiple additions out there.

0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:32.120
<v Speaker 1>Welcome both of you to the program. Look, John, I

0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:37.080
<v Speaker 1>mean every single shooting, this is where the media goes,

0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:39.960
<v Speaker 1>this is where people on the left go, and it

0:37:40.400 --> 0:37:44.120
<v Speaker 1>just it becomes, you know, groundhog Day all over again.

0:37:44.360 --> 0:37:47.640
<v Speaker 1>Nothing changes, nothing gets better. I think there is an answer.

0:37:47.680 --> 0:37:50.600
<v Speaker 1>If we decide to secure school we can do it.

0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:53.320
<v Speaker 1>And we've got the manpower. We have enough retired military

0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:56.560
<v Speaker 1>police officers I'm sure would love jobs inside of schools.

0:37:56.600 --> 0:37:59.560
<v Speaker 1>And if you have the proper security measures put in place,

0:37:59.640 --> 0:38:02.440
<v Speaker 1>I think this a lot of this can be prevented,

0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:05.720
<v Speaker 1>or at the very minimum, if something begins to happen,

0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:09.239
<v Speaker 1>it could be minimized. Does that makes sense, I mean,

0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:11.920
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you. Look, I'm very frustrated by this.

0:38:12.120 --> 0:38:17.239
<v Speaker 1>I've been making similar arguments since and uh, you know,

0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:21.839
<v Speaker 1>I listening to the politicians on TV yesterday coming out

0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:25.960
<v Speaker 1>with different types of proposals like background checks on private transfers.

0:38:26.040 --> 0:38:29.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean President Obama after each of the man's public

0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:32.120
<v Speaker 1>shootings that he's talked about, that was the one type

0:38:32.120 --> 0:38:34.880
<v Speaker 1>of legislation he put forward. I just wish during one

0:38:34.920 --> 0:38:38.120
<v Speaker 1>of his press conferences somebody would have asked him, Miss President,

0:38:38.280 --> 0:38:41.480
<v Speaker 1>can you point to one single mass public shooting that

0:38:41.600 --> 0:38:44.080
<v Speaker 1>if this law had been in effect it would have stopped,

0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:47.240
<v Speaker 1>because at least any of the attacks during this century

0:38:47.360 --> 0:38:49.600
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have been stopped as a result of having that

0:38:49.719 --> 0:38:51.400
<v Speaker 1>law on effect. You know, you look at some of

0:38:51.400 --> 0:38:55.120
<v Speaker 1>the other things. I was listening to uh Senator Nelson

0:38:55.239 --> 0:39:00.520
<v Speaker 1>from Florida talk about the terror watch list yesterday. All

0:39:00.560 --> 0:39:04.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, one, I think he completely mischaracterized what the

0:39:04.120 --> 0:39:08.080
<v Speaker 1>debate was between the Republicans and the Democrats. But beyond that,

0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:10.960
<v Speaker 1>how is that relevant to this? I think there's a

0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:13.920
<v Speaker 1>simple thing that can be done, and that is allowing

0:39:14.120 --> 0:39:16.640
<v Speaker 1>people in the schools to be able to go and

0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:19.319
<v Speaker 1>protect themselves, to get rid of these gun free zones.

0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:22.560
<v Speaker 1>The one thing that we see happen virtually every time

0:39:22.640 --> 0:39:27.440
<v Speaker 1>over of these mass public shootings have occurred in places

0:39:27.480 --> 0:39:30.200
<v Speaker 1>where we don't allow general citizens to be able to

0:39:30.200 --> 0:39:33.000
<v Speaker 1>go and defend themselves. But you know, I'm not sure though.

0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:36.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, and I have no problem I've carried

0:39:36.560 --> 0:39:39.759
<v Speaker 1>a weapon all of my adult life so UM, And

0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:42.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm a big supporter of the Second Amendment. I just am.

0:39:42.400 --> 0:39:45.000
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not going to change my mind. And I've

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<v Speaker 1>looked at your book and the many editions of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I actually think the the idea that teachers in

0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:54.040
<v Speaker 1>a classroom, um are the answer. I'm not so sure.

0:39:54.080 --> 0:39:56.120
<v Speaker 1>I think it's got to be. I think it's it's

0:39:56.120 --> 0:39:59.040
<v Speaker 1>got to be more systematic than that. I think you've

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<v Speaker 1>got to we now have to say we really want

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<v Speaker 1>to protect schools. These are the security measures that will work.

0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:09.160
<v Speaker 1>These doors must be closed. People are outside the perimeter

0:40:09.239 --> 0:40:12.239
<v Speaker 1>of schools. Uh, then you have people on the inside,

0:40:12.280 --> 0:40:15.200
<v Speaker 1>there's one entering point, etcetera, etcetera. I mean, those are

0:40:15.280 --> 0:40:17.920
<v Speaker 1>basic fundamental things. If we want to secure a white house,

0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:20.360
<v Speaker 1>obviously you know you're gonna have a lot more security.

0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:21.920
<v Speaker 1>But if we want to secure a school, I think

0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:25.760
<v Speaker 1>we can do it. Retired military, retired police. Yeah, they're armed,

0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Uh they don't. They can conceal it. It's not like

0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:31.080
<v Speaker 1>they have to walk around with machine guns or or whatever.

0:40:31.320 --> 0:40:33.480
<v Speaker 1>And I just think everybody will have the peace of

0:40:33.520 --> 0:40:35.840
<v Speaker 1>mind then that they know that they have a front

0:40:35.840 --> 0:40:38.319
<v Speaker 1>line of defense right there on the ground. I mean,

0:40:38.320 --> 0:40:42.160
<v Speaker 1>I believe that having a few staff or a couple

0:40:42.239 --> 0:40:46.000
<v Speaker 1>teachers someplace who are unknown to the attacker would dramatically

0:40:46.040 --> 0:40:49.080
<v Speaker 1>alter the equations that we're talking about in terms of

0:40:49.120 --> 0:40:51.799
<v Speaker 1>their incentives to go and do the attack. No, I'm

0:40:51.800 --> 0:40:55.000
<v Speaker 1>not against it, all right, Joe, Now I understood, But

0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:58.040
<v Speaker 1>what I would say is, so much of this discussion

0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:01.200
<v Speaker 1>is about having kind of uniform arm guards or armed

0:41:01.200 --> 0:41:05.319
<v Speaker 1>guards or people that are identified. Is uh, it is

0:41:05.360 --> 0:41:07.840
<v Speaker 1>providing the protection there. If you had somebody who is

0:41:07.960 --> 0:41:11.120
<v Speaker 1>ex milk, you know, law enforcement there and he wasn't

0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:14.600
<v Speaker 1>a teacher, and the students realized that he was there

0:41:14.640 --> 0:41:18.800
<v Speaker 1>in order to do the guarding, that dramatically reduces his effecting.

0:41:18.920 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about, though, John, a full comprehensive security assessment,

0:41:24.040 --> 0:41:26.400
<v Speaker 1>and a full comprehensive that would mean, okay, where are

0:41:26.440 --> 0:41:29.680
<v Speaker 1>the areas of vulnerability? How does somebody that shouldn't be

0:41:29.719 --> 0:41:32.439
<v Speaker 1>on the property get on the property? That would mean

0:41:32.480 --> 0:41:34.680
<v Speaker 1>that you know, kids have like, for example, I have

0:41:34.760 --> 0:41:36.840
<v Speaker 1>ideas to get into the buildings that I get into,

0:41:37.080 --> 0:41:39.799
<v Speaker 1>and that you know over time that very quickly in

0:41:39.840 --> 0:41:41.879
<v Speaker 1>the course of a year, that they're gonna know who

0:41:42.000 --> 0:41:43.960
<v Speaker 1>belongs in that school. Who doesn't belong in that school.

0:41:43.960 --> 0:41:45.680
<v Speaker 1>I can even tell you as a parent, you know,

0:41:45.760 --> 0:41:48.200
<v Speaker 1>going to schools sometimes I have to sign in, I

0:41:48.239 --> 0:41:50.480
<v Speaker 1>have to show by license. I mean, uh. And I'm

0:41:50.480 --> 0:41:52.239
<v Speaker 1>not against it at all. I don't think it's just

0:41:52.440 --> 0:41:54.880
<v Speaker 1>it's not any different if we really want to stop it.

0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:57.359
<v Speaker 1>I think there's a solution. Joe, let me bring it

0:41:57.440 --> 0:41:59.760
<v Speaker 1>into this equation. Do you like any of these ideas

0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:02.880
<v Speaker 1>and specifically what you work on? Well, I can certainly

0:42:02.880 --> 0:42:04.960
<v Speaker 1>say I agree with just about everything that both you

0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:07.960
<v Speaker 1>and Mr Lott have said, and actually with quite a bit,

0:42:08.239 --> 0:42:10.520
<v Speaker 1>even the absurd comments that you ran in the promo.

0:42:10.840 --> 0:42:14.000
<v Speaker 1>And that's exactly what the Faster Saves Lives program has

0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:17.640
<v Speaker 1>been doing, is giving schools an option with the realities

0:42:17.680 --> 0:42:19.520
<v Speaker 1>they deal with today. I think all of us can

0:42:19.560 --> 0:42:21.480
<v Speaker 1>agree we would love to wake up tomorrow in a

0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:24.320
<v Speaker 1>world where we don't have to worry about violence impacting

0:42:24.320 --> 0:42:27.359
<v Speaker 1>our families or our communities. But the reality is every

0:42:27.400 --> 0:42:30.120
<v Speaker 1>day these school administrators have to wake up wondering if

0:42:30.200 --> 0:42:31.960
<v Speaker 1>violence is going to be a part of their school

0:42:31.960 --> 0:42:34.239
<v Speaker 1>that day. And a lot of these schools are realizing

0:42:34.280 --> 0:42:37.360
<v Speaker 1>that they have the ability to change the outcome of

0:42:37.400 --> 0:42:40.319
<v Speaker 1>these scenarios of looking at everything that has happened. Our

0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:43.640
<v Speaker 1>foundation has been providing this training to schools for over

0:42:43.640 --> 0:42:46.799
<v Speaker 1>five years now. We've worked with over thirteen hundred school

0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:50.000
<v Speaker 1>staff from two twenty five different districts across I think

0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:52.319
<v Speaker 1>it's twelve states at this point. And what we do

0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:55.640
<v Speaker 1>is provide them number one, the ability when this violence

0:42:55.640 --> 0:42:58.080
<v Speaker 1>occurs in their school is the first stop the killing

0:42:58.120 --> 0:43:00.719
<v Speaker 1>as soon as possible, and in fact, lee start the

0:43:00.800 --> 0:43:03.040
<v Speaker 1>medical aid as soon as possible. And then when the

0:43:03.040 --> 0:43:06.600
<v Speaker 1>professionals show up, they actually have live, viable patients they

0:43:06.600 --> 0:43:09.200
<v Speaker 1>can transfer to them instead of victims that we see

0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:11.759
<v Speaker 1>in so many of these situations. The extent, what what

0:43:11.880 --> 0:43:14.200
<v Speaker 1>about the first step is the first step doesn't have

0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:17.279
<v Speaker 1>to be a comprehensive security assessment of every school, But

0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:20.319
<v Speaker 1>you're exactly right. And what I find is by the

0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:23.560
<v Speaker 1>time a school staff looks at the option of having

0:43:23.880 --> 0:43:26.279
<v Speaker 1>firearms as part of their safety plan, either with arms,

0:43:26.280 --> 0:43:29.520
<v Speaker 1>school resource officers or other arms staff in the building,

0:43:29.800 --> 0:43:33.319
<v Speaker 1>these schools already have layer upon layer upon layer of

0:43:33.400 --> 0:43:36.040
<v Speaker 1>protection in the schools, and if a threat is internal

0:43:36.080 --> 0:43:38.040
<v Speaker 1>to their schools, such as from one of their students,

0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:39.880
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of good they can do with setting

0:43:39.920 --> 0:43:42.759
<v Speaker 1>up chip lines, with monitoring social media, with having a

0:43:42.840 --> 0:43:44.640
<v Speaker 1>good run by the way that that all happened here,

0:43:44.680 --> 0:43:47.640
<v Speaker 1>every sign, every bit of evidence that we ever needed.

0:43:48.000 --> 0:43:51.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, if you quote everybody, I know, I'll use

0:43:51.000 --> 0:43:53.640
<v Speaker 1>the quote they joke that he'd shoot up the school.

0:43:54.280 --> 0:43:56.160
<v Speaker 1>It's not wasn't a joke, and it's not a joke.

0:43:56.320 --> 0:43:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Everybody knew. You know, this kid was thrown out of school.

0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:02.000
<v Speaker 1>The FBI was told about this kid. He's he wants

0:44:02.040 --> 0:44:05.360
<v Speaker 1>to be known as a school shooter. So, in other words,

0:44:05.600 --> 0:44:07.840
<v Speaker 1>we we had the signs and said nobody seemed to

0:44:07.840 --> 0:44:10.040
<v Speaker 1>follow up. Is the problem here? But stay right there.

0:44:10.080 --> 0:44:12.760
<v Speaker 1>We'll take a break. We'll come back right as we continue.

0:44:12.760 --> 0:44:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Sean Hannity Show one, Shawn, if you want to be

0:44:16.280 --> 0:44:19.400
<v Speaker 1>a part of this extravaganza anyway. Joe Eaton is with

0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:22.960
<v Speaker 1>US program director faster U Saves Lives dot org as

0:44:23.040 --> 0:44:26.320
<v Speaker 1>his website. John Lott, the president of the Crime Prevention

0:44:26.400 --> 0:44:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Research Center and also the author of More Guns, Less Crime. Uh,

0:44:30.880 --> 0:44:34.000
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people here they go, this is outrageous.

0:44:34.080 --> 0:44:37.320
<v Speaker 1>You went and looked at this on a statistical basis

0:44:37.680 --> 0:44:41.880
<v Speaker 1>that those cities those towns, those countries that have the

0:44:41.920 --> 0:44:44.800
<v Speaker 1>most severe the toughest gun control laws. It doesn't work.

0:44:45.080 --> 0:44:48.000
<v Speaker 1>So then why does everybody always race to a solution

0:44:48.080 --> 0:44:50.520
<v Speaker 1>that you can prove doesn't work. Well. I think a

0:44:50.560 --> 0:44:53.839
<v Speaker 1>lot of what happens is that people, uh, you know,

0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:56.960
<v Speaker 1>get affected by the news coverage here. They hear about

0:44:57.040 --> 0:45:00.600
<v Speaker 1>bad things that happened with guns. They rarely hear about benefits,

0:45:00.680 --> 0:45:03.480
<v Speaker 1>and so it affects their perceptions about the costs and

0:45:03.560 --> 0:45:07.839
<v Speaker 1>benefits of people having guns to all. And I think,

0:45:07.960 --> 0:45:10.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, you look at these mass public shootings. My

0:45:10.239 --> 0:45:12.879
<v Speaker 1>guess is the entire debate that we have right now

0:45:12.880 --> 0:45:15.960
<v Speaker 1>would be dramatically different if the media just reported a

0:45:16.000 --> 0:45:18.600
<v Speaker 1>few things a little bit differently, if they mentioned once

0:45:18.680 --> 0:45:22.680
<v Speaker 1>in a while that these another attack occurred in a

0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:26.560
<v Speaker 1>place where general citizens were banned from having guns. You know,

0:45:26.640 --> 0:45:29.120
<v Speaker 1>at some point they would realize, jeez, it seems like

0:45:29.120 --> 0:45:32.279
<v Speaker 1>almost every time this is happening, you know, percent of

0:45:32.320 --> 0:45:35.439
<v Speaker 1>these attacks are occurring in places where people aren't able

0:45:35.480 --> 0:45:37.960
<v Speaker 1>to go and defend themselves. Yeah, I mean that that

0:45:38.080 --> 0:45:40.560
<v Speaker 1>is a big problem, you know, And I always ask everybody,

0:45:40.800 --> 0:45:42.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, and jil this goes back to maybe the

0:45:42.360 --> 0:45:44.399
<v Speaker 1>program that you're doing here. But you know, if you're

0:45:44.440 --> 0:45:47.200
<v Speaker 1>in any administrative building, here's a question that I think

0:45:47.320 --> 0:45:50.560
<v Speaker 1>is very simple, and God forbid, you are in a

0:45:50.640 --> 0:45:54.040
<v Speaker 1>situation where there's an active shooter, would you prefer to

0:45:54.120 --> 0:45:58.600
<v Speaker 1>have trained retired military that are armed there, trained retired

0:45:58.600 --> 0:46:01.960
<v Speaker 1>police that are armed there at least offering some help,

0:46:02.040 --> 0:46:04.719
<v Speaker 1>some assist in some line of defense. And for me,

0:46:04.800 --> 0:46:07.400
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, regardless of where you stand on

0:46:07.440 --> 0:46:09.520
<v Speaker 1>the gun issue, I gotta believe the answer would be yes,

0:46:10.080 --> 0:46:11.719
<v Speaker 1>You're right, And that's what we see. We can all

0:46:11.760 --> 0:46:13.800
<v Speaker 1>agree that if they're going to be guns in the schools,

0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:16.920
<v Speaker 1>they cannot be in the hands of criminals or untrained people.

0:46:16.960 --> 0:46:19.600
<v Speaker 1>And that's what the Faster Saves Lives program does is

0:46:19.680 --> 0:46:22.240
<v Speaker 1>give the school staff who are in the school buildings

0:46:22.360 --> 0:46:25.760
<v Speaker 1>this training. What we see in every situation is every

0:46:25.760 --> 0:46:28.320
<v Speaker 1>time one of these events happens, there are certain staff,

0:46:28.360 --> 0:46:30.520
<v Speaker 1>and they're in every school building in the United States.

0:46:30.680 --> 0:46:33.160
<v Speaker 1>When a killer comes into that building, they're going to

0:46:33.200 --> 0:46:36.360
<v Speaker 1>go willingly stand between these murders and these innocent kids,

0:46:36.360 --> 0:46:38.319
<v Speaker 1>and they're going to give up their life to buy

0:46:38.400 --> 0:46:41.279
<v Speaker 1>these kids a few extra seconds of life. As a

0:46:41.360 --> 0:46:44.400
<v Speaker 1>school and as a community, as a nation. If you

0:46:44.480 --> 0:46:47.360
<v Speaker 1>have staff they're willing to go stand between these murders

0:46:47.400 --> 0:46:49.440
<v Speaker 1>and these kids, we owe it to them to say

0:46:49.480 --> 0:46:52.640
<v Speaker 1>you're going there anyway, show up with any tool or

0:46:52.680 --> 0:46:56.160
<v Speaker 1>any training you're comfortable with, so you have some chance

0:46:56.200 --> 0:46:58.320
<v Speaker 1>of going home to your family at the end of

0:46:58.320 --> 0:47:00.880
<v Speaker 1>the night. And that's what the Fastest Eight Lives program

0:47:00.920 --> 0:47:03.520
<v Speaker 1>help schools do. They identify the staff. We trained them

0:47:03.520 --> 0:47:05.719
<v Speaker 1>to a level higher than what we require our law

0:47:05.840 --> 0:47:09.640
<v Speaker 1>enforcement between two. Yeah, just just to me is common sense,

0:47:09.920 --> 0:47:14.160
<v Speaker 1>and that is comprehensive security assessments. Everybody all hands on

0:47:14.239 --> 0:47:17.200
<v Speaker 1>deck and and we do have professionals that are look

0:47:17.239 --> 0:47:19.880
<v Speaker 1>at this coach that you know was shot and killed

0:47:19.960 --> 0:47:24.040
<v Speaker 1>protecting his students. Unbelievable, unbelievable heroism. All right, thank you

0:47:24.040 --> 0:47:26.280
<v Speaker 1>both for being with us. Appreciate your insight, your input.

0:47:26.320 --> 0:47:28.239
<v Speaker 1>Eight nine one, Shawn, if you want to be a

0:47:28.280 --> 0:47:30.239
<v Speaker 1>part of the program, will shift gears a little bit

0:47:30.600 --> 0:47:32.719
<v Speaker 1>in the bottom half hour, we'll check in with Mark

0:47:32.760 --> 0:47:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Meadows and Jim Jordan's this immigration bill that's being pushed

0:47:35.680 --> 0:47:37.920
<v Speaker 1>as a disaster straight ahead. It was very important to

0:47:37.920 --> 0:47:40.839
<v Speaker 1>me with respect to the budget, was Dacca. I did

0:47:40.880 --> 0:47:44.400
<v Speaker 1>not want DOCTA in the budget. I wanted DOCTA separate

0:47:44.640 --> 0:47:46.799
<v Speaker 1>so that we could talk about it and make a deal.

0:47:47.600 --> 0:47:49.600
<v Speaker 1>And I hope to be able to make a deal.

0:47:49.640 --> 0:47:51.600
<v Speaker 1>I hope the Democrats are not going to use it

0:47:52.040 --> 0:47:54.160
<v Speaker 1>just as a campaign. You know, they've been talking about

0:47:54.200 --> 0:47:58.200
<v Speaker 1>data for many years and they haven't produced We started

0:47:58.239 --> 0:48:00.400
<v Speaker 1>talking about DOCTA, and I think we'll produce is. But

0:48:00.640 --> 0:48:03.240
<v Speaker 1>if the Democrats want to make a deal, it's really

0:48:03.320 --> 0:48:08.600
<v Speaker 1>up to them, because we want really tremendous border security.

0:48:08.640 --> 0:48:13.360
<v Speaker 1>But we have to have Democrats support for DOCCA, and

0:48:13.640 --> 0:48:16.440
<v Speaker 1>they are starting that process today. We didn't want to

0:48:16.440 --> 0:48:18.840
<v Speaker 1>have it in the big budget because if we have

0:48:18.920 --> 0:48:20.799
<v Speaker 1>it in the big budget, it's going to get mixed

0:48:20.840 --> 0:48:22.560
<v Speaker 1>up with all of the other things. So now we

0:48:22.600 --> 0:48:25.480
<v Speaker 1>have our military taken care of, and now we start

0:48:26.000 --> 0:48:30.200
<v Speaker 1>very serious DOCCTA talks today, and we are I can

0:48:30.239 --> 0:48:32.640
<v Speaker 1>tell you speaking for the Republican Party, we would love

0:48:32.680 --> 0:48:34.640
<v Speaker 1>to do DOCCA. We would love to get it done.

0:48:34.680 --> 0:48:37.440
<v Speaker 1>We want border security and the other elements that you

0:48:37.480 --> 0:48:40.680
<v Speaker 1>know about chain migration, you know about the visa lottery,

0:48:40.719 --> 0:48:44.040
<v Speaker 1>you know about But we think there's a good chance

0:48:44.040 --> 0:48:46.759
<v Speaker 1>of getting DOCTA done if the Democrats are serious and

0:48:46.760 --> 0:48:49.080
<v Speaker 1>they actually want to do it all right to the

0:48:49.080 --> 0:48:52.840
<v Speaker 1>top of the one sean that was the President talking

0:48:52.840 --> 0:48:55.760
<v Speaker 1>about the ongoing battle right now in the US Senate

0:48:55.840 --> 0:48:59.040
<v Speaker 1>over the immigration Billy said, I'm asking all senators and

0:48:59.120 --> 0:49:02.319
<v Speaker 1>both parties to support the grass Lee bill and to

0:49:02.400 --> 0:49:07.200
<v Speaker 1>oppose any legislation that fails to fulfill these four pillars

0:49:07.200 --> 0:49:09.800
<v Speaker 1>that he talked about during his State of the Union address,

0:49:09.800 --> 0:49:13.279
<v Speaker 1>including opposing any short term band aid approach. Said, the

0:49:13.320 --> 0:49:16.800
<v Speaker 1>overwhelming majority of American voters support a plan that fulfills

0:49:16.840 --> 0:49:20.120
<v Speaker 1>the frameworks for pillars, which moves us toward the safe,

0:49:20.239 --> 0:49:25.080
<v Speaker 1>modern and lawful immigration system that people deserve. Now, this

0:49:25.160 --> 0:49:28.040
<v Speaker 1>is the bill that was put out by Senator Chuck Grassley.

0:49:28.120 --> 0:49:31.400
<v Speaker 1>It pretty much talks about It does give on DACA

0:49:31.640 --> 0:49:35.080
<v Speaker 1>for about one point eight million illegal immigrants and twenty

0:49:35.080 --> 0:49:37.799
<v Speaker 1>five million for border security. I assume that's being paid

0:49:37.880 --> 0:49:39.480
<v Speaker 1>up front or else I wouldn't do any deal that

0:49:39.520 --> 0:49:42.160
<v Speaker 1>doesn't give you the money up front to build the wall,

0:49:42.600 --> 0:49:47.040
<v Speaker 1>to end the diversity visa lottery, and phase out jay migration. Uh.

0:49:47.239 --> 0:49:49.640
<v Speaker 1>The bill that seems to be getting the most traction

0:49:49.800 --> 0:49:52.360
<v Speaker 1>is this so called middle of the Road bill. But

0:49:52.400 --> 0:49:55.520
<v Speaker 1>when you have Jeff Flake and Susan Collins authoring this thing,

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<v Speaker 1>I guarantee you it's not going to be anything like

0:49:57.960 --> 0:49:59.640
<v Speaker 1>what the president wants. As a matter of fact, we

0:49:59.680 --> 0:50:01.920
<v Speaker 1>already no, it doesn't look like what the president wants.

0:50:02.160 --> 0:50:06.720
<v Speaker 1>Jim Jordan's Mark Meadows, Ohio, North Carolina Freedom Caucus Members,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome both of you back to the program to be

0:50:08.920 --> 0:50:12.080
<v Speaker 1>with Sean. Thanks so much. Where are both of you

0:50:12.360 --> 0:50:17.280
<v Speaker 1>on the grass Lee bill? Although obviously the Collins Bill

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<v Speaker 1>and this whatever group of people seem to be uh,

0:50:21.320 --> 0:50:23.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, pushing more towards an amnesty bill and not

0:50:23.640 --> 0:50:26.200
<v Speaker 1>the president's priorities. That's what we're calling it selling. This

0:50:26.280 --> 0:50:28.520
<v Speaker 1>is Jim here, we're calling it the amnesty eight bill. Right,

0:50:28.520 --> 0:50:31.319
<v Speaker 1>you got eight Republicans, eight Democrats in the center. That's

0:50:31.360 --> 0:50:34.560
<v Speaker 1>that's just an amnesty bill, not in any way consistent

0:50:34.680 --> 0:50:36.600
<v Speaker 1>with what the President has talked about and what the

0:50:36.600 --> 0:50:39.600
<v Speaker 1>American people demanded when they put us all in power

0:50:40.120 --> 0:50:43.360
<v Speaker 1>in office in the election. So the best bill is

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<v Speaker 1>the good lab Bill. The second best one is the

0:50:45.440 --> 0:50:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Grassley Bill, But the one that needs to pass in

0:50:47.000 --> 0:50:49.319
<v Speaker 1>the House is Chairman good Laps Bill because it does

0:50:49.360 --> 0:50:51.279
<v Speaker 1>all the things the President talked about, plus thanks to

0:50:51.280 --> 0:50:54.200
<v Speaker 1>where City, plus e verify, plus Kate's Law, all those

0:50:54.239 --> 0:50:57.360
<v Speaker 1>things that make sense. Uh that that those are elements

0:50:57.360 --> 0:51:00.239
<v Speaker 1>that are contained in Chairman good lads legislation. What do

0:51:00.280 --> 0:51:03.560
<v Speaker 1>you think, Congressman Congressman Medows, you know, I'm looking at

0:51:03.560 --> 0:51:05.040
<v Speaker 1>this and I'm like, here, we go back to the

0:51:05.080 --> 0:51:08.640
<v Speaker 1>same thing every time, and that's capitulating to the Democrats

0:51:08.680 --> 0:51:11.279
<v Speaker 1>on every single bill. I don't think the Democrats want

0:51:11.280 --> 0:51:13.719
<v Speaker 1>to bill. I think that at least up to now,

0:51:14.000 --> 0:51:16.919
<v Speaker 1>now that the polls have been changing, the President's popularities

0:51:16.920 --> 0:51:20.160
<v Speaker 1>now at a high. You look at the generic ballot numbers,

0:51:20.239 --> 0:51:23.520
<v Speaker 1>they have moved very heavily in Republican direction. I think

0:51:23.640 --> 0:51:26.360
<v Speaker 1>the certainly the economic bill passed at the end of

0:51:26.360 --> 0:51:28.000
<v Speaker 1>the year had a big the tax bill had a

0:51:28.040 --> 0:51:30.440
<v Speaker 1>big part to play in it um And I think, actually,

0:51:30.440 --> 0:51:32.640
<v Speaker 1>if this comes down to a debate, the winning issue

0:51:32.680 --> 0:51:35.600
<v Speaker 1>is securing the borders and securing him first. Well, it is,

0:51:35.680 --> 0:51:38.320
<v Speaker 1>and and this is an issue that obviously the President

0:51:38.400 --> 0:51:42.320
<v Speaker 1>defined himself different than all the candidates that he ran against,

0:51:42.480 --> 0:51:45.560
<v Speaker 1>and and the American people spoke in November they said,

0:51:45.640 --> 0:51:49.000
<v Speaker 1>what we want is someone who will actually address this problem.

0:51:49.120 --> 0:51:51.480
<v Speaker 1>The President has been consistent with that, and yet we

0:51:51.560 --> 0:51:54.600
<v Speaker 1>see over in the Senate right now, this whole debate

0:51:54.680 --> 0:51:59.200
<v Speaker 1>with a few moderate Republicans teaming up with the Democrats

0:51:59.480 --> 0:52:03.200
<v Speaker 1>trying to support a bill that honestly, the President didn't

0:52:03.239 --> 0:52:07.040
<v Speaker 1>campaign on Jim Jordan and I didn't campaign on. And

0:52:07.040 --> 0:52:09.880
<v Speaker 1>and I'm pleased to hear that the White House has

0:52:09.960 --> 0:52:13.120
<v Speaker 1>offered a veto threat UH if that happened to get

0:52:13.120 --> 0:52:16.279
<v Speaker 1>out of the Senate, bravo. I applaud the President for

0:52:16.360 --> 0:52:19.080
<v Speaker 1>doing that, But I can I can tell you that Jim,

0:52:19.360 --> 0:52:22.880
<v Speaker 1>my good friend Jim Jordan, is right. We need to

0:52:22.960 --> 0:52:26.040
<v Speaker 1>put forth the most conservative bill out of the House.

0:52:26.320 --> 0:52:30.600
<v Speaker 1>Let that uh set the debate. And if we do that,

0:52:30.719 --> 0:52:32.880
<v Speaker 1>I think that we'll get a bill that supports the

0:52:32.960 --> 0:52:36.440
<v Speaker 1>four pillars that the President has outlined. Okay, what about that?

0:52:36.560 --> 0:52:38.920
<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of people We always get these

0:52:39.080 --> 0:52:42.440
<v Speaker 1>tax increase, the spending increase, and we never get the

0:52:42.480 --> 0:52:44.759
<v Speaker 1>spending cuts. That's always ten years down the line, and

0:52:44.800 --> 0:52:47.520
<v Speaker 1>it never never happens. You always get the amnesty going

0:52:47.560 --> 0:52:51.799
<v Speaker 1>back to two thousand and six. You always get some

0:52:51.920 --> 0:52:54.879
<v Speaker 1>type of concession from people that didn't respect our laws

0:52:54.880 --> 0:52:58.000
<v Speaker 1>and sovereignty, but you never end up getting the walls

0:52:58.120 --> 0:53:00.759
<v Speaker 1>built and the border secure. How do we ensure that,

0:53:01.040 --> 0:53:03.560
<v Speaker 1>regardless of how this all turns out, that that wall

0:53:03.640 --> 0:53:05.880
<v Speaker 1>gets built. I think number one, it's good for the

0:53:05.880 --> 0:53:08.200
<v Speaker 1>country and are it makes sense for the country. And

0:53:08.320 --> 0:53:10.840
<v Speaker 1>number two, it's good politically because it will be the

0:53:10.880 --> 0:53:13.160
<v Speaker 1>first time we ever got done what we said we

0:53:13.160 --> 0:53:15.719
<v Speaker 1>were going to get done. Yeah, so you're exactly right.

0:53:15.719 --> 0:53:17.920
<v Speaker 1>The American people are not going to tolerate that once again,

0:53:17.960 --> 0:53:21.080
<v Speaker 1>that that they won't buy that that whole line. Oh,

0:53:21.280 --> 0:53:23.720
<v Speaker 1>it will do the amnesty now, but we promise, promise, promise,

0:53:23.760 --> 0:53:25.600
<v Speaker 1>will eventually get to border security. That is not going

0:53:25.640 --> 0:53:27.200
<v Speaker 1>to fly. And the one person they trust on this

0:53:27.320 --> 0:53:29.799
<v Speaker 1>issue is the President United States. So that's why I

0:53:29.840 --> 0:53:33.000
<v Speaker 1>mentioned Chairman good Left legislation, Sean, because it does it

0:53:33.080 --> 0:53:35.560
<v Speaker 1>in the prioritizing way that the American people know it

0:53:35.600 --> 0:53:37.359
<v Speaker 1>has to get done, and the way you've talked about

0:53:37.360 --> 0:53:40.360
<v Speaker 1>it getting done, which is border security wall first, to

0:53:40.560 --> 0:53:44.240
<v Speaker 1>enchain migration, get rid of this crazy sanctuary city policy,

0:53:44.440 --> 0:53:46.239
<v Speaker 1>deal with Kate's Law, get rid of the visa lot

0:53:46.239 --> 0:53:49.160
<v Speaker 1>of all those that that legislation has, like twenty two

0:53:49.200 --> 0:53:52.719
<v Speaker 1>different key policy areas. The first twenty one or everything

0:53:52.760 --> 0:53:54.920
<v Speaker 1>that is common sense in the American people spoke loudly

0:53:54.920 --> 0:53:57.399
<v Speaker 1>and clearly about. And then the last one says, and oh,

0:53:57.440 --> 0:53:59.840
<v Speaker 1>by the way, we're also going to address the doctor situation.

0:54:00.200 --> 0:54:03.000
<v Speaker 1>That's done in the prioritizing fashion and manner that is

0:54:03.040 --> 0:54:05.640
<v Speaker 1>consistent with what we were elected to do. So that's

0:54:05.680 --> 0:54:07.640
<v Speaker 1>why Mark and I for the last several weeks we've

0:54:07.680 --> 0:54:09.840
<v Speaker 1>been pushing the good that legislation. We we tried to

0:54:09.920 --> 0:54:12.319
<v Speaker 1>ramp up to talk about that because that's the one

0:54:12.360 --> 0:54:13.799
<v Speaker 1>that we need to get done in As Mark said,

0:54:13.880 --> 0:54:16.879
<v Speaker 1>where's the leadership on this? Though? Where is Paul Ryan?

0:54:17.000 --> 0:54:19.520
<v Speaker 1>They finally whipped it. They finally whipped it. But let's

0:54:19.600 --> 0:54:22.000
<v Speaker 1>let's let's hope they put the full strength of the

0:54:22.080 --> 0:54:24.520
<v Speaker 1>leadership behind the whip and start persuading people this is

0:54:24.560 --> 0:54:27.000
<v Speaker 1>the right thing to put down first, because it's consistent

0:54:27.040 --> 0:54:29.520
<v Speaker 1>with the American people believe. Why would you let Susan

0:54:29.560 --> 0:54:33.040
<v Speaker 1>Collins and a bill, would you know, Senator Flake go

0:54:33.200 --> 0:54:36.080
<v Speaker 1>through with only Democrats and say somehow, this is what

0:54:36.080 --> 0:54:38.600
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna passed on. Their plan is okay, they're gonna

0:54:38.600 --> 0:54:42.480
<v Speaker 1>pass Stacca they're gonna provide billion, they say a border security,

0:54:42.520 --> 0:54:44.719
<v Speaker 1>but only give you two point five billion. This is

0:54:44.800 --> 0:54:48.239
<v Speaker 1>over ten years. That sounds to be like John McCain's proposal. Well,

0:54:48.280 --> 0:54:51.279
<v Speaker 1>let's study it, uh in the year. Well, that's just

0:54:51.360 --> 0:54:53.719
<v Speaker 1>the way of punting the problem down the road like

0:54:53.760 --> 0:54:56.800
<v Speaker 1>they always do. That's the same old Washington swamp. Well

0:54:56.840 --> 0:54:58.680
<v Speaker 1>it is the same old swamp. And if you want

0:54:58.719 --> 0:55:02.120
<v Speaker 1>to make sure that the Publican party is in the minority,

0:55:02.400 --> 0:55:06.360
<v Speaker 1>become this November in the House and that we lose

0:55:06.440 --> 0:55:10.479
<v Speaker 1>seats in the Senate. Uh, let's just continue down that road.

0:55:10.640 --> 0:55:12.799
<v Speaker 1>You know, Jim Jordan's says it best. He says, it

0:55:12.840 --> 0:55:15.600
<v Speaker 1>never hurts to do what you promised the American people

0:55:15.680 --> 0:55:17.719
<v Speaker 1>you would do. We said that we were going to

0:55:17.760 --> 0:55:21.000
<v Speaker 1>be tough on uh immigration, making sure that we have

0:55:21.080 --> 0:55:24.160
<v Speaker 1>a secure boarder, making sure sanctuary cities and the like

0:55:24.640 --> 0:55:27.760
<v Speaker 1>are dealt with. And if we don't do that, uh,

0:55:27.840 --> 0:55:30.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, people are gonna either show up or not

0:55:30.719 --> 0:55:33.000
<v Speaker 1>show up in November. But it will not be good

0:55:33.160 --> 0:55:35.680
<v Speaker 1>news for anybody in our party. And so that's why

0:55:35.760 --> 0:55:38.400
<v Speaker 1>we've got to address this and make sure that we

0:55:38.440 --> 0:55:41.160
<v Speaker 1>actually build a wall. That we don't talk about it,

0:55:41.239 --> 0:55:45.040
<v Speaker 1>that we actually, uh, make sure that we address this

0:55:45.160 --> 0:55:48.840
<v Speaker 1>and don't provide amnesty without fixing the root cause of

0:55:48.840 --> 0:55:51.360
<v Speaker 1>the problem. You know, I'm looking at and this was

0:55:51.640 --> 0:55:53.600
<v Speaker 1>an article on one of the blogs I saw earlier

0:55:53.640 --> 0:55:56.200
<v Speaker 1>today that if you look at the latest numbers, that

0:55:56.360 --> 0:55:59.959
<v Speaker 1>Republicans are doing a lot better generically on the ballot,

0:56:00.040 --> 0:56:02.760
<v Speaker 1>and the President's doing very well at a number of polls,

0:56:02.800 --> 0:56:05.200
<v Speaker 1>better than he has done. And I would attribute a

0:56:05.239 --> 0:56:07.719
<v Speaker 1>lot of it to the economic fallout. Now that people

0:56:07.760 --> 0:56:11.440
<v Speaker 1>are seeing their their taxes cut fairly significantly on a

0:56:11.480 --> 0:56:14.319
<v Speaker 1>weekly basis starting in February, I think they're beginning to

0:56:14.360 --> 0:56:16.359
<v Speaker 1>get the message that, oh, wait a minute, I think

0:56:16.400 --> 0:56:19.200
<v Speaker 1>I've been paying way too much in taxes. Um. This

0:56:19.280 --> 0:56:21.480
<v Speaker 1>is one of the main reasons he won the election,

0:56:21.880 --> 0:56:25.359
<v Speaker 1>So why not. Why isn't the Republican leadership in both

0:56:25.360 --> 0:56:28.080
<v Speaker 1>the House and said it just embracing anything. You're you're

0:56:28.200 --> 0:56:29.960
<v Speaker 1>so rightel And the reason the numbers are up is

0:56:29.960 --> 0:56:32.160
<v Speaker 1>because the tax bill is something we said we would

0:56:32.200 --> 0:56:33.719
<v Speaker 1>do and we did it, and people are feeling the

0:56:33.760 --> 0:56:36.160
<v Speaker 1>impact of that. Right now. The President said he's gonna

0:56:36.200 --> 0:56:38.200
<v Speaker 1>put Neo Gorsets on the court in good conservative the

0:56:38.200 --> 0:56:40.040
<v Speaker 1>court and he did it. The President has said he's

0:56:40.040 --> 0:56:42.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna make Isis backpedal, and they're doing it. The President

0:56:42.480 --> 0:56:44.320
<v Speaker 1>said he was going to put the embassy in Jerusalem,

0:56:44.320 --> 0:56:46.040
<v Speaker 1>and he's doing it. So when the president, that's what

0:56:46.040 --> 0:56:48.279
<v Speaker 1>the American people love about this president. He does what

0:56:48.400 --> 0:56:51.000
<v Speaker 1>he says. And here we come to immigration and if

0:56:51.200 --> 0:56:53.160
<v Speaker 1>and if we can just help the president do what

0:56:53.239 --> 0:56:55.239
<v Speaker 1>he said he was going to do, his numbers are

0:56:55.239 --> 0:56:57.759
<v Speaker 1>going even higher. How many people when you talk to

0:56:57.800 --> 0:56:59.960
<v Speaker 1>when when remember when Nikki Haley said, if you don't

0:57:00.000 --> 0:57:02.080
<v Speaker 1>start voting with us at the United Nations, we were

0:57:02.080 --> 0:57:04.279
<v Speaker 1>going to remember that. The American people love that because

0:57:04.280 --> 0:57:06.680
<v Speaker 1>it's the respect and and focus that there should be

0:57:06.719 --> 0:57:10.040
<v Speaker 1>at places like that. So that's what they appreciate, appreciate

0:57:10.120 --> 0:57:12.560
<v Speaker 1>so much about this president. And if we can do

0:57:12.600 --> 0:57:15.040
<v Speaker 1>that on immigration, all that that that that will be

0:57:15.120 --> 0:57:17.920
<v Speaker 1>so good for his for his approbating, but more importantly

0:57:17.920 --> 0:57:19.720
<v Speaker 1>be good for the country. Both of you have been

0:57:19.760 --> 0:57:24.360
<v Speaker 1>following these stories and involving the abuse of FISA, and

0:57:24.640 --> 0:57:26.720
<v Speaker 1>we have no information today. This was put out by

0:57:26.760 --> 0:57:29.400
<v Speaker 1>the Daily Caller that Bruce or actually hit his wife's

0:57:29.440 --> 0:57:32.560
<v Speaker 1>fusion GPS payments. His wife Nellie actually did some of

0:57:32.600 --> 0:57:36.400
<v Speaker 1>the research for the phony, fake Russian dossier that Hillary

0:57:36.440 --> 0:57:39.600
<v Speaker 1>bought and paid for um and that in and of itself,

0:57:39.760 --> 0:57:41.640
<v Speaker 1>that a mission can be a crime. What are your

0:57:41.640 --> 0:57:44.520
<v Speaker 1>thoughts on that. Well, you know, Sean, you've been covering

0:57:44.560 --> 0:57:47.600
<v Speaker 1>this when no one else would cover it, and everybody

0:57:47.720 --> 0:57:51.080
<v Speaker 1>was criticizing you for bringing this to the attention of

0:57:51.120 --> 0:57:54.240
<v Speaker 1>the American voter. And yet now you've been vindicated. Here

0:57:54.280 --> 0:57:57.880
<v Speaker 1>here we are seeing that Bruce Or who actually worked

0:57:57.880 --> 0:58:01.520
<v Speaker 1>for the Department of Justice, his wife was employed by

0:58:01.520 --> 0:58:04.880
<v Speaker 1>the very group that was doing the opposition research. And

0:58:04.960 --> 0:58:07.840
<v Speaker 1>yet they didn't disclose that. Not only did they not

0:58:08.000 --> 0:58:10.640
<v Speaker 1>disclose it to the pis a cord, but now we're

0:58:10.680 --> 0:58:13.120
<v Speaker 1>finding out that they didn't disclose it in terms of

0:58:13.160 --> 0:58:16.200
<v Speaker 1>ethics forms. You know, there's collusion going on, and that

0:58:16.320 --> 0:58:19.560
<v Speaker 1>collusion is not between the President and the Russians. It's

0:58:19.600 --> 0:58:23.840
<v Speaker 1>between the Democrat Party, the Department of Justice, the FBI,

0:58:23.920 --> 0:58:26.880
<v Speaker 1>and really the whole narrative of the deep state trying

0:58:26.920 --> 0:58:30.480
<v Speaker 1>to make sure that they influenced an election. Gotta take

0:58:30.520 --> 0:58:32.440
<v Speaker 1>a break more with Jim Jordan Mark Meadows on the

0:58:32.480 --> 0:58:35.520
<v Speaker 1>other side of this. Right as we continue with Freedom

0:58:35.520 --> 0:58:39.280
<v Speaker 1>caucus members. Their chairman is Mark Meadows. He's from North Carolina.

0:58:39.360 --> 0:58:42.320
<v Speaker 1>Former chairman. He got dismissed from the job. Is actually

0:58:42.360 --> 0:58:46.400
<v Speaker 1>laid off and fired. Jim Jordan of Ohio. Do you

0:58:46.400 --> 0:58:48.520
<v Speaker 1>guys have term limits on this? How did that work out?

0:58:49.360 --> 0:58:53.360
<v Speaker 1>The term limits? Both of us are. Was there a

0:58:53.400 --> 0:58:57.280
<v Speaker 1>coup somehow in their uh Mark Meadows chakeing out his

0:58:57.280 --> 0:59:00.680
<v Speaker 1>his wrestling buddy, Jim Jordan. I don't know what happened. Listen,

0:59:00.720 --> 0:59:03.880
<v Speaker 1>I would end up pen on every single time going

0:59:03.960 --> 0:59:08.400
<v Speaker 1>up against the gentleman from no He's he's tough, good

0:59:08.400 --> 0:59:12.160
<v Speaker 1>thing that I know martial arts. I could hurt them. Um.

0:59:11.400 --> 0:59:16.360
<v Speaker 1>But besides that, Look, we have this terrible, terrible school shooting.

0:59:16.360 --> 0:59:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Another tragedy. We've had a lot of them, and I'm

0:59:19.560 --> 0:59:22.240
<v Speaker 1>watching and I almost I get a headache watching the

0:59:22.320 --> 0:59:27.560
<v Speaker 1>same predictable arguments and discussions going on. I'm not interested

0:59:27.560 --> 0:59:30.360
<v Speaker 1>in these predictable talking points anymore. And to me, I

0:59:30.400 --> 0:59:33.640
<v Speaker 1>think there's an answer, and that is every single school

0:59:33.640 --> 0:59:37.080
<v Speaker 1>in the country should have a comprehensive security assessment. After

0:59:37.120 --> 0:59:40.040
<v Speaker 1>that assessment, a plan has got to be organized, and

0:59:40.160 --> 0:59:42.920
<v Speaker 1>that means securing the perimeter of these schools. And that

0:59:42.960 --> 0:59:47.720
<v Speaker 1>would mean hiring former military, retired military retired police. Yeah,

0:59:47.720 --> 0:59:50.760
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be armed. Yes, it can be concealed, but

0:59:51.120 --> 0:59:54.560
<v Speaker 1>we've got there is a way to safe in the

0:59:54.680 --> 0:59:58.080
<v Speaker 1>environment in these schools and prevent some of these tragedies

0:59:58.200 --> 1:00:01.560
<v Speaker 1>and at least minimize them if God forbid they break out,

1:00:01.680 --> 1:00:05.400
<v Speaker 1>agree or disagree. Uh, Congressman Jordan's Yeah, I think you're right, son.

1:00:05.440 --> 1:00:07.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, there's so many, so many churches now are

1:00:07.760 --> 1:00:09.920
<v Speaker 1>doing the same thing. They have a plan in place,

1:00:10.040 --> 1:00:13.200
<v Speaker 1>and they have some of their some of their parishioners

1:00:13.240 --> 1:00:17.040
<v Speaker 1>who have their concealed carry license are actually coming to

1:00:17.120 --> 1:00:20.440
<v Speaker 1>church with their their you know, armed but obviously concealed

1:00:21.120 --> 1:00:24.360
<v Speaker 1>as a way to to hopefully if if something terrible

1:00:24.360 --> 1:00:27.040
<v Speaker 1>like this ever happens at those locations, they're better equipped

1:00:27.080 --> 1:00:29.040
<v Speaker 1>to deal with it. I think you're right. We may

1:00:29.080 --> 1:00:31.400
<v Speaker 1>have to step this up and figure out the safest

1:00:31.440 --> 1:00:33.800
<v Speaker 1>possible way to deal with evil when it when it

1:00:33.880 --> 1:00:36.680
<v Speaker 1>raises its ugly head, like like we saw again yesterday

1:00:36.680 --> 1:00:40.200
<v Speaker 1>in in Florida. Yeah, Congressman Medals, Yeah. I think the

1:00:40.640 --> 1:00:44.040
<v Speaker 1>other interesting aspect is when when we look and we

1:00:44.160 --> 1:00:48.840
<v Speaker 1>talk to law enforcement officers, they understand how to secure

1:00:49.000 --> 1:00:52.800
<v Speaker 1>our schools. And basically it's a it's a resource issue,

1:00:53.200 --> 1:00:57.640
<v Speaker 1>school resource officers, you know, metal detectors and the like. Obviously,

1:00:57.800 --> 1:00:59.920
<v Speaker 1>we we want to make sure that anybody who goes

1:01:00.080 --> 1:01:02.520
<v Speaker 1>school can do so in a safe environment. And so

1:01:02.600 --> 1:01:05.560
<v Speaker 1>I think that you'll see additional legislation coming from this

1:01:05.720 --> 1:01:08.919
<v Speaker 1>administration that says, let's make sure that we have enough

1:01:09.000 --> 1:01:13.640
<v Speaker 1>resources to protect those students that go Uh to default

1:01:13.680 --> 1:01:16.520
<v Speaker 1>to the normal talking points on both the Democrat and

1:01:16.560 --> 1:01:20.280
<v Speaker 1>Republican side of things is is not appropriate. But I

1:01:20.320 --> 1:01:23.080
<v Speaker 1>agree with you, let's do a real assessment, Sean, and

1:01:23.120 --> 1:01:25.760
<v Speaker 1>make sure that we can provide a safe environment for

1:01:25.800 --> 1:01:28.160
<v Speaker 1>our students. Now, one of the things that everybody said, well,

1:01:28.200 --> 1:01:30.040
<v Speaker 1>we can't afford this, We can't. I said, we can't

1:01:30.040 --> 1:01:32.600
<v Speaker 1>afford not to at this point. And I really believe

1:01:32.880 --> 1:01:35.920
<v Speaker 1>that people have served their whole lives and they're in retirement,

1:01:36.040 --> 1:01:37.560
<v Speaker 1>and I know I have friends of mine that have

1:01:37.600 --> 1:01:40.360
<v Speaker 1>retired five weeks later. I'm so bored. I can't take

1:01:40.400 --> 1:01:42.919
<v Speaker 1>it anymore. And people that have served their whole life

1:01:42.960 --> 1:01:46.360
<v Speaker 1>would probably look at it as an opportunity and a challenge,

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<v Speaker 1>and they'd have a desire, they'd feel an important role

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<v Speaker 1>that they're playing and keeping the local school system safe.

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<v Speaker 1>I guarantee you they'd be lining up to do these jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they would be lining up to do the jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think the other part of that is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we dispassed a budget that Jim and I were just

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<v Speaker 1>very troubled by the numbers. But we did a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and thirty one billion dollars as a billion with a B.

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<v Speaker 1>Why not take a lion share of that money and

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<v Speaker 1>let's start looking at our school resource officers. If we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to do something instead of growing the size of

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<v Speaker 1>government here in Washington, d C. Let's look at reallocating

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<v Speaker 1>some of those dollars and making sure it goes back

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<v Speaker 1>to our states and local counties to provide additional resources

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<v Speaker 1>for those schools. Let's make sure that there's some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of return. Yeah, I gotta let you both. Well, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not I'm not cutting your short here, but Jim Jordan's

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<v Speaker 1>and uh Mark Meadows two of the people that really

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<v Speaker 1>are fighting for the conservative values in this country. If

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<v Speaker 1>not for the Freedom Caucus, it would be a thousand

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<v Speaker 1>times worse than it is for the country and the

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<v Speaker 1>president right now. Thank you both for what you do.

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<v Speaker 1>We appreciate it. Eight nine for one, Shawn is a

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<v Speaker 1>toll free telephone number. We'll take a quick break, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>come back. We'll continue, all right, News rounds up, information

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<v Speaker 1>overload our Shawn Hannity Show eight d nine for one, Shawn,

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<v Speaker 1>I to play. This is from the Sun from earlier today.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the guy that said he alerted the FBI

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<v Speaker 1>to this YouTube comment about this this shooter Nicholas Cruz

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<v Speaker 1>that you know he wanted to be UH known as

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<v Speaker 1>a professional school shooter. That was literally posted on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>He told the FBI. The FBI came to visit him

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<v Speaker 1>the day after he alerted the FBI about all this,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I'm we're gonna play the FBI agent saying

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<v Speaker 1>in yeah, they had information about this comment. Listen to this.

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<v Speaker 1>September two thousand seventeen, I sent a a screenshot of

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<v Speaker 1>a comment on one of my videos. Now people keep

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<v Speaker 1>asking me which video was it. I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember what video it was. When I saw the

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<v Speaker 1>comment come through on my UH studio app on my iPhone,

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<v Speaker 1>I screenshot of the comment, I hit the report work button,

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<v Speaker 1>reported to YouTube. Of course, they removed the comment and

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<v Speaker 1>then I tried to email it to the FBI. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>I found an email address tips at FBI dot gov.

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<v Speaker 1>Sent it to that email address. I immediately got back

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<v Speaker 1>a m domain air. Basically that email address didn't exist.

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<v Speaker 1>So I looked up the number for UH, our local

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<v Speaker 1>field office, and I called it. I left a message. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the next day I had two FBI agents standing in

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<v Speaker 1>my office, UM and taking down the information, taking down

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<v Speaker 1>the UH, taking copies of the screenshot, and asking me

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<v Speaker 1>questions that of course I couldn't answer. You know, all

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<v Speaker 1>it was and my channel was a a comment. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>people leave pretty famous comments on a pretty regular basis

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<v Speaker 1>on this channel, UM, and I really didn't think anything

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<v Speaker 1>of it. But what I did think was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this comment said I'm going to be a professional school shooter.

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<v Speaker 1>And I knew that I couldn't just ignore that. In

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and seventeen, the FBI received information about a

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<v Speaker 1>comment made on a YouTube channel. The comments simply said

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be a professional school shooter. No other

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<v Speaker 1>information was included with that comment which would indicate a

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<v Speaker 1>time location for the true identity of the person who

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<v Speaker 1>made the comment. The FBI conducted database reviews checks what

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<v Speaker 1>was was unable to further identify the person who actually

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<v Speaker 1>made the comment. Again, as a native South Floridian, my

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<v Speaker 1>heart goes out to the victims, the families and friends,

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<v Speaker 1>and the entire community. Thank you. If I've heard one

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<v Speaker 1>time in the last twenty four hours, I've heard it

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand. If you see something, say some thing. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy saw something, reported it to the FBI, did

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<v Speaker 1>all of the right things, and apparently it was widely

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<v Speaker 1>known in the school that this kid was the kid.

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<v Speaker 1>And then of course we have all the social media

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<v Speaker 1>fingerprints of this guy, Nicholas Cruz. All the evidence that

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<v Speaker 1>we needed that this was the guy that would probably

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<v Speaker 1>do something like this was there. People were speaking out,

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<v Speaker 1>people knew what, people said it. Now the question is

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<v Speaker 1>how did we miss it? Because they missed it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not blaming anyone individual. I I I go back

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<v Speaker 1>to what I've been saying all day that every school

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<v Speaker 1>in this country at this point, all of these predictable

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<v Speaker 1>talking points are meaningless to all of us. The priority.

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<v Speaker 1>This isn't a gun debate at this point. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a security debate. And if we want to secure every

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<v Speaker 1>school in America, there's nobody that's gonna be able to

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<v Speaker 1>convince me we can't do it. We it's really a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of a comprehensive security assessment of every school in

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<v Speaker 1>the country and then implementing it with hired military and

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<v Speaker 1>retired police. If we really want to keep our kids safe,

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<v Speaker 1>they would be the front line of defense. Now you say, okay, well, Sean,

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<v Speaker 1>they had enough security guard at the school. The school

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<v Speaker 1>had multiple buildings and thirty kids. That's not enough security.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not what I'm talking about. Haraldo Rivera, my friend

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<v Speaker 1>and colleague from Fox News joins us and Jonathan Gillham

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<v Speaker 1>former Well, you have a former Navy seal, Navy seal

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<v Speaker 1>and Air marshal and all around good guy. He's with

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<v Speaker 1>us as well. Horaldo. A lot of people got pretty

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<v Speaker 1>piste off at you on the show last night because

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<v Speaker 1>you started talking about guns. I don't think the guns

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<v Speaker 1>are the issue here. I think if we want to

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<v Speaker 1>secure any building in this country, we have the ability

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<v Speaker 1>to do it, and let's do it. The President agreed, obviously, Sewan.

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<v Speaker 1>His remarks were totally I think in uh keeping with

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<v Speaker 1>the spirit of what you said last night, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to remind you, my dear brother, and the

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<v Speaker 1>audience that I agreed with you on that page. You did,

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<v Speaker 1>you did. But they were a hundreds of thousands of

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<v Speaker 1>A R fifteen type military style assault weapons out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say one percent of the people that own them

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<v Speaker 1>are freaks. One percent is one percent freaks in any

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<v Speaker 1>group of boy Scouts, of of nuns, you pick a group,

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<v Speaker 1>there's one percent of crazy people. So there are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of weapons that can do thirty some people killed

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<v Speaker 1>with handguns at another school shooting because the guy had

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<v Speaker 1>multiple handguns. Ultimately, you know, the only way that argument's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna worry. Let's say you get rid of a R

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen all right, then the next shooting is with the

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<v Speaker 1>guy that has five handguns and as quick at reloading them,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the next shooting is another type of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't buy that argument, just because I've been around

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<v Speaker 1>the military too often, and Jonathan far more than me. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's a reason they've developed the weapon as nifty,

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<v Speaker 1>as handy, as easy to reload as the A R fifteen.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not for shooting ducks. As they said last time.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care that people get angry at me. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not that's not my my thing. I would not have

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<v Speaker 1>lasted in this business all these decades if I cared

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<v Speaker 1>about people getting mad at me or not. But I

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<v Speaker 1>like your idea, and I have advocated your idea. There

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<v Speaker 1>should be one good guy with the gun at every

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<v Speaker 1>place where there are school children, and the school should

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<v Speaker 1>be as safe as places where we keep I think

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<v Speaker 1>it could be made totally safe. I mean, if you

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<v Speaker 1>do a complete, thorough, comprehensive security assessment on every individual school,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the threat assessment comes back, how many people

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<v Speaker 1>do you need retired police military that are armed, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in each building, surround the perimeter, make sure there's no

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<v Speaker 1>that nobody gets in that building that doesn't belong in

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<v Speaker 1>that building. We all live in New York. There's not

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<v Speaker 1>a building in New York you can get into Jonathan

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<v Speaker 1>Gillham that you don't have either an idea to get

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<v Speaker 1>him for or a pass from somebody that's in the

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<v Speaker 1>building allowing you up. That's absolutely right now. And you

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<v Speaker 1>know I watched your show last night. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>tell her all though, that I appreciate his passion. I

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<v Speaker 1>really do. And I've seen some fake passion on some

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<v Speaker 1>other networks. It was just ridiculous. He's the real deal.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why we love him, and I understand what he's

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<v Speaker 1>saying that here, here's what I want. Here's what I want.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't understand is from you know, he's been around the

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<v Speaker 1>military very enough to get this. So a military base,

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<v Speaker 1>am a federal building. You can't just go into those

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<v Speaker 1>buildings with an A R fifteen. In fact, if you

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<v Speaker 1>try to approach those facilities, you're you're going to probably

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<v Speaker 1>be shot or you'll be taking down pretty quick if

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<v Speaker 1>you show an aggressive move. That's because they have had

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<v Speaker 1>comprehensive threat assessments. They know the most likely locations that

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<v Speaker 1>people enter an exit. We just had it at the

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<v Speaker 1>n s A that earlier this week where it worked

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<v Speaker 1>effectively and ultimately UM Columbine was done with a was

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<v Speaker 1>not done with the A R fifteen. They had kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a mock up semi automatic weapon and a shotgun.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it doesn't really matter the style of gun.

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<v Speaker 1>A mass killing can be done. It could be done

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<v Speaker 1>with a knife. What we have to do is start

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<v Speaker 1>looking at this from as Shaun is saying, as we

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<v Speaker 1>said on the show yesterday, a security standpoint, but here

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<v Speaker 1>realizes the problem with that is that when as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as politics get involved and law enforcement gets involved, what

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<v Speaker 1>they start doing is they go overboard with these assessments

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<v Speaker 1>and they go into high budget areas when you don't

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<v Speaker 1>need that. You don't need that at all. And I

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<v Speaker 1>talked about the book that Sean wrote the forward for that,

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote Sheet No More, and it teaches people how

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<v Speaker 1>to think like an attacker and how to do a

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<v Speaker 1>threat assessment on their wife. This can be done by

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<v Speaker 1>the school administrators, by the staff, and by the parents,

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<v Speaker 1>by the local law enforcement. You don't need experts to

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<v Speaker 1>come in. You just determine this is the type of

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<v Speaker 1>attack could that could happen. This is the avenue of approach.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you get with the fire marshal. You lock

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<v Speaker 1>as many of the doors from the outside as you can,

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<v Speaker 1>you won't be able to walk them all. And then

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<v Speaker 1>that is where you determine the funnel is that these

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<v Speaker 1>bad guys can come in. And that's where you go

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<v Speaker 1>and you get these former not just necessarily retire but

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<v Speaker 1>former law enforcement veterans that can qualify with a weapon

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<v Speaker 1>and come out there and they can sit a post

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<v Speaker 1>and then you will know if anybody approaches they will

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<v Speaker 1>not be able to get in that building. That is

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately the thing that you want to stop. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter what the guy you know. Horal though, let me

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<v Speaker 1>let me go to what Jonathan's point is, and I

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<v Speaker 1>forget the exact words you use last night. You called

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<v Speaker 1>it a national emergency. I'm not disagreeing. But if we

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<v Speaker 1>look at what's happened on television, you know, almost in

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<v Speaker 1>the immediate aftermath of this, the same predictable talking points. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on radio thirty years, Horal though, I've carried a

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<v Speaker 1>firearm more than half my adult life, more than half

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<v Speaker 1>my life. I've been trained in the use of firearms

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<v Speaker 1>since I'm eleven, and You're never gonna convince me on

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<v Speaker 1>the gun side. I'm never gonna convince you either. But

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<v Speaker 1>if we do a comprehensive security threat assessment of every school,

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<v Speaker 1>and we get the manpower that's necessary, we implement the changes.

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<v Speaker 1>Number one, we minimize the ability of these people to

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<v Speaker 1>get in. And number two, if it happens, we've got

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<v Speaker 1>first responders right there on the ground with the capacity

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<v Speaker 1>to defend. And I think it makes it a whole lot.

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<v Speaker 1>It changes the entire equation. We have a program, No

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<v Speaker 1>Child Left Behind. We should now start a program in

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<v Speaker 1>the spirit of what you and Jonathan have just been saying,

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<v Speaker 1>and what the President said and his idol at heartfelt remarks,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a program where individual school districts can apply

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<v Speaker 1>to a federal grant to secure their school. Now, some

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<v Speaker 1>schools have more highly evolved security systems, they have higher budgets.

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<v Speaker 1>Some schools are you know, they're lucky if they have

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<v Speaker 1>textbooks with covers on them. But with this federal grant

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<v Speaker 1>money where you're not federalizing the problem particularly, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>creating a new bureaucracy. But you have a program where

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<v Speaker 1>any school can and as Jonathan says, in conjunction with

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<v Speaker 1>the fire marshal, because you don't want the next tragedy

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<v Speaker 1>to be the kids in science couldn't get out because

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<v Speaker 1>the door was chained from the outside to prevent intruders.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So there is some level of complication, But you

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<v Speaker 1>don't need a three hundred page, uh you know, memo

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<v Speaker 1>on it. It used common sense. I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Just think of children as our most valuable resource. We

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<v Speaker 1>always we always say that politicians always b s about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we get this topic. I just wanted one quickps.

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<v Speaker 1>You know Bernie Carrot, former police commissioner New York City.

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<v Speaker 1>Bernie Carrick wrote an excellent article on a news Max

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is today where he posits, is the

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<v Speaker 1>FBI too concerned about political investigations that the agents aren't

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<v Speaker 1>following up on the kind of tips and clues and

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<v Speaker 1>leads that you recited at the top of the segment.

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<v Speaker 1>We had Bernie on the program yesterday and I thought

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<v Speaker 1>he was amazing. And all right, we'll take a break here,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll come back, will continue more with Horaldo and Jonathan Gillum.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't forget Hannity tonight nineties turn the very latest on

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<v Speaker 1>this and much more on the Fox News Channel. Right

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<v Speaker 1>as we continue, Horaldo Rivera and Jonathan Gillimer with us. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a way to do this. I'll tell you one

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<v Speaker 1>way not to do it, though, and that is if

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<v Speaker 1>we do it the way that we've been doing it,

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<v Speaker 1>same predictable arguments, they go by the wayside, nothing happens.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I just think, I know you say that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just I don't know why our nation needs

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<v Speaker 1>Why do we need a million a archiveteam? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know why, I remember you know, I've been around

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<v Speaker 1>guns for I love guns. Guns. You know, guns, they

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<v Speaker 1>whether you're a hunter or you're you're you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>think you're Lawrence of Arabia, whatever it is. But I

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<v Speaker 1>bet you many of the people who own a R

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen type weapons own them because they think they have

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<v Speaker 1>lack of faith in the central government. The black helicopters

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<v Speaker 1>coming to take your weapons. The Second Amendment is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a race. A lot of it is paranoia,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just it's not Do you see how many

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<v Speaker 1>how would you call a paranoia? How do you call

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<v Speaker 1>a paranoia? Just look, just hang on, just look at

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<v Speaker 1>I've owned are are fifteen. You know a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>times nobody even knows what an ARE fifteen means. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the difference between an a R fifteen and and and

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<v Speaker 1>another rifle is often just cosmetic. There's there's it's just

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<v Speaker 1>words to most people. And I'm telling you that just

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<v Speaker 1>look at the average weekend statistics of carnage in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you telling me we've cleaned up New York under

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<v Speaker 1>Rudy Julietti, we couldn't clean up Chicago. And if we

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<v Speaker 1>we put our minds to it, I believe we could.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think you're going to solve this argument.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not this listen thirty years in radio. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna change anybody's mind, and and I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>change your mind, and you're not gonna change mine. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I believe in the Constitution, the Second Amendment, and because

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<v Speaker 1>some people abuse their freedoms should not impact the right

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<v Speaker 1>of other people's freedoms in my opinion. And it's also

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<v Speaker 1>a very evil, dangerous world. And I always ask everybody, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you gonna do if somebody breaks into your house.

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<v Speaker 1>I know what you're gonna do, Haraldo, You're gonna grab

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<v Speaker 1>a gun. I got to grab a shotgun, which I have,

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<v Speaker 1>which is far more intimidating, but that the the only thing.

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<v Speaker 1>He's my lad better you better hope there's there's fewer

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<v Speaker 1>than two people there, and well it's it's a rossy

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<v Speaker 1>overland two shot and that's if it takes more than

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<v Speaker 1>two shots, and Johnson will tell you then you're screwed anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>But I want getting a powerful weapon like that to

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<v Speaker 1>be at least as hard as getting a commercial driver's

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<v Speaker 1>license for a semi truck. If you can, if you

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<v Speaker 1>can have the test to get a semi rig license,

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<v Speaker 1>then you could have That's how hard I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>be to get a powerful weapon. Well to give to

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<v Speaker 1>give Jonathan the last word, we gotta move on. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Hodo wants that you want to dry, you want to

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<v Speaker 1>to gun, you have to be able to drive an

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<v Speaker 1>a eteen wheeler. Okay, you know, I think listen again,

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<v Speaker 1>this is like not the world that we live in.

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<v Speaker 1>We we have to look at reality. We're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to get rid of the guns. You can take away

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<v Speaker 1>all the legal guns. You can make it much harder.

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<v Speaker 1>There will always be bad guys with guns always, and

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<v Speaker 1>so it's best if we start asking the right questions,

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<v Speaker 1>if we start looking at security, and if we can

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<v Speaker 1>eliminate the ability of these people to get into the schools,

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<v Speaker 1>there won't be these mass shootings. And then we can

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<v Speaker 1>have a discussion later on and you'll see that the

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<v Speaker 1>reality about these weapons is that there's very few people

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<v Speaker 1>that have them that are doing bad things. We're just

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<v Speaker 1>allowing them to get into places where they can do

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of harm and that needs to stop. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to thank you both of being with us,

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<v Speaker 1>say a hundred nine for one. Shawn is a toll

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<v Speaker 1>free telephone number. The President's very touching comments, some of

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<v Speaker 1>the other sounds from yesterday, Shaw and Hannity is on

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<v Speaker 1>and I said promised earlier, the President gave an address unbelievable,

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<v Speaker 1>emotional and passionate address at the White House today. We

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<v Speaker 1>also have witness accounts and Sheriff Israel of Broward County

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<v Speaker 1>and and a lot of the sounds from this attack.

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<v Speaker 1>And we put this together for you. This this can

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<v Speaker 1>be solved. This problem, Help us solve the problem. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, I had to go to victim. He's by

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<v Speaker 1>the by the entrance to West Glade on the west

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<v Speaker 1>side of the school for my actions being on the fide.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I hear is we don't know if we're

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<v Speaker 1>end the building in front of the thirteen building Building

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen seventeen can form our comper energy boiage by us.

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<v Speaker 1>The pain's the pain we have to the zame Moor.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we get a positive confirmation on Nicholas Cruise being

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<v Speaker 1>detained uniform one five, one three four confirmed Nicholas Cruises

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<v Speaker 1>and custody one co. I had a lot of gunshots

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<v Speaker 1>and then right after when the police like let us

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<v Speaker 1>out there was dead bodies everywhere, like there's two there,

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<v Speaker 1>and then when I kept walking down there was more.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just scary. We were just in class waiting

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<v Speaker 1>like do notes and talking about our projects. In the

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<v Speaker 1>fire alarm goes for the second time in the same day,

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<v Speaker 1>which is weird. So we all just go out into

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<v Speaker 1>the field like we're supposed to, and then I hear

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<v Speaker 1>like like gunshots, like you can tell, and then definitely gunshots.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually whenever firelarm goes off, it's usually just like culinary

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<v Speaker 1>and accent or nothing. But it was really odd to

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<v Speaker 1>have two firelarms in one day. Like it was the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the cool day, and the fire alarm went

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<v Speaker 1>off and we went to evacuate, you know, I just did.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a fire drill. And then we got meaning

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen honey steps up out of the classroom and we

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<v Speaker 1>were cool that we were on cold read and we

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<v Speaker 1>ran back inside to the classroom. They got down, crossed

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<v Speaker 1>down on the floor, and then we moved into the closet.

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<v Speaker 1>Friend of mine teaches on the front in the freshman building,

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<v Speaker 1>and she said that as she was leaving that there

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<v Speaker 1>were bodies on the floor, So I I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>who it is and I don't know why, but I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is the type of situation that we've

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<v Speaker 1>we just had a training about this, you know, not

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<v Speaker 1>maybe like six weeks ago, about how to deal up

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<v Speaker 1>the situation. And if we haven't had that training, it

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<v Speaker 1>could have been you know a lot words. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of us probably thought that this was with

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<v Speaker 1>drill that we were supposed to have, you know, this

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<v Speaker 1>semester to practice, and it wasn't. It was a thing

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<v Speaker 1>I managed to twitter nineteen caes in the closet with me.

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<v Speaker 1>How long have you have to be there? Um less

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<v Speaker 1>than a minute or less in a minute, then you're

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<v Speaker 1>cleared pretty quick. Foll No, we were in the closet

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<v Speaker 1>for probably forty minutes, Like we we were locked in

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<v Speaker 1>the closet until slog came and got us and took

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<v Speaker 1>us somewhere else and then took up the brails. And

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<v Speaker 1>now we're you know, standing out on the street and

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<v Speaker 1>kids are you know, very finding their parents. Wow, that

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<v Speaker 1>certainly paints a picture. So you just heard an interview

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<v Speaker 1>with a teacher who said that they just trained for

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<v Speaker 1>the six weeks ago when this mass shooting happened. A

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<v Speaker 1>few hours ago, She said, she put numerous students in

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<v Speaker 1>a in a closet and waited there for forty minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>For like dirty minutes, we were just like praying and

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<v Speaker 1>crying and and then the police came and we just

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<v Speaker 1>got out. I was praying to God, thinking that he

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<v Speaker 1>could save us all in that we could make it

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<v Speaker 1>a book. I called my parents and it's just all crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>and like all you could think about is, oh, my God,

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<v Speaker 1>my family, my friends, everything like pt you never think

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<v Speaker 1>of what happened to you, but it does. Kids were

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<v Speaker 1>freaking out, some kids frow some kids were on their phones.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of were on their phones just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>snapchat everything, saying that it was a joke. Again, it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't there's kids freaking out, students bringing out teachers. It

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<v Speaker 1>was the sucks. I was sitting in class the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>floor the freshman building, and all we heard was gunshots

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<v Speaker 1>were fifteen round shoot the ceiling. We all dove to

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<v Speaker 1>the left side where the windows were. Our teacher told

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<v Speaker 1>us to get to the side closest to the door,

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<v Speaker 1>so we all ran behind the desks. The shooter. The

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<v Speaker 1>good thing the doors locked. The shooter shot through the door,

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<v Speaker 1>poked in shaw a couple of people next to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I was sitting right behind a cabinet in the bullet

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<v Speaker 1>pass that you're gotta go next to me. We couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>help anybody in the time because we had to stay quiet.

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<v Speaker 1>Megan Hill, Megan, thank you for taking the time to

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<v Speaker 1>join us. You're a junior, as I understand it. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you're in a room, this door is locked. This guy shooting.

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<v Speaker 1>Take it from there. What happened from there? Megan, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>as the shooter was in the hallway, I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>I was the first room. He stopped through the glass window,

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<v Speaker 1>did not open our door, and he turned the gun

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<v Speaker 1>towards the side of the wall was the students were sitting.

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<v Speaker 1>He shot four people. One was dead. There are three

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<v Speaker 1>other injured. A girl was shot in her ribs. A

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<v Speaker 1>girl um a bullet clipped to the top of her kneecap.

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<v Speaker 1>I was told to stay calm. All I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>do was help, but I knew that could everybody's else

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<v Speaker 1>life in jeopardy. After ten minutes, I finally couldn't stand anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I took off my bean jacket. I threw it over

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<v Speaker 1>the desk and had someone trying to help the girl

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<v Speaker 1>front of me. I'm not sure if she was a

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<v Speaker 1>hold that been jacket, but I tried my hardest. Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to stay calm. I finally got a hold

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<v Speaker 1>of my sister Mackenzie. He was in the second four bathrooms,

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<v Speaker 1>got into a door safely and the teacher they're not

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to open the door for a policy on code red.

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<v Speaker 1>But he luckily been He saved her. She was put

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<v Speaker 1>into a room and survived, and it was a very traumatizing.

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<v Speaker 1>We were told to leave the building. They told it.

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<v Speaker 1>The one out left it, heads down and run straight

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<v Speaker 1>to Fine Islands. There are bodies on the floor. The

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<v Speaker 1>sun was shot tonight, shot arm, he said. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the local area hospitals. I'm being told he's being treated

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<v Speaker 1>with non life threatening injuries. Thank god. Um, if you

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<v Speaker 1>are on a website and you know something and you've

1:25:14.200 --> 1:25:17.519
<v Speaker 1>seen something, you see a person with rifles and weaponry,

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<v Speaker 1>and you see something that's not right, you owe it

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<v Speaker 1>to your family, you owe it to your community, and

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<v Speaker 1>you owe it to law enforcement to make this a

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<v Speaker 1>safer nation by calling up someone tonight, call up the FBI,

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<v Speaker 1>call it the browd. Shriff's office and call up someone

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<v Speaker 1>tonight and let them know that you have information or

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<v Speaker 1>something's not right. You could prevent a major tragedy like that,

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<v Speaker 1>like this devastation that happened in Parkland yesterday. A school

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<v Speaker 1>filled with innocent children and caring teachers became the scene

1:25:52.400 --> 1:25:59.760
<v Speaker 1>of terrible violence, hatred, and evil. Around two thirty he

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<v Speaker 1>has thurday afternoon, police responded to reports of gunfire at

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<v Speaker 1>Marjorie Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, a great

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<v Speaker 1>and safe community. They're a shooter who is now in custody,

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<v Speaker 1>open fire on defenseless students and teachers. He murdered seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>people and badly wounded at least fourteen others. Our entire nation,

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<v Speaker 1>with one heavy heart, is praying for the victims and

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<v Speaker 1>their families. To every parent, teacher, and child who was

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<v Speaker 1>hurting so badly, we are here for you, whatever you need,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever we can do to ease your pain. We are

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<v Speaker 1>We're all joined together as one American family, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>suffering is our burden. Also, no child, no teacher should

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<v Speaker 1>ever be in danger in an American school. No parents

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<v Speaker 1>should ever have to fear for their sons and daughters

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<v Speaker 1>when they kissed them goodbye in the morning. Each person

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<v Speaker 1>who was stolen from us yesterday had a full life

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of them, a life filled with wondrous beauty and

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<v Speaker 1>unlimited potential and promise. Each one had dreams to pursue,

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<v Speaker 1>love to give, and talents to share with the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And each one had a family to whom they meant

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<v Speaker 1>everything in the world. Today, we mourn for all of

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<v Speaker 1>those who lost their lives. We comfort the grieving and

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<v Speaker 1>the wounded, and we heard for the entire community of Parkland, Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>that is now in shock and pain and searching for

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<v Speaker 1>answers to law enforce, first responders and teachers who responded

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<v Speaker 1>so bravely in the face of danger. We thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for your courage. Soon after the shooter, I spoke with

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<v Speaker 1>Governor Scott to convey our deepest sympathies to the people

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<v Speaker 1>of Florida and our determination to assist in any way

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<v Speaker 1>that we can. I also spoke with Florida Attorney General

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<v Speaker 1>Pam Bondi and Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel. I'm making

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<v Speaker 1>plans to visit Parkland to meet with families and local officials,

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<v Speaker 1>and to continue coordinating the federal response. In these moments

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<v Speaker 1>of heartache and darkness, we hold onto God's word in Scripture.

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<v Speaker 1>I have heard your prayer and senior tears. I will

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<v Speaker 1>heal you. We trust in that promise, and we hold

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<v Speaker 1>fast to our fellow Americans and their time of sorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to speak now directly to America's children, especially

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<v Speaker 1>those who feel lost, alone, confused, or even scared. I

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<v Speaker 1>want you to know that you are never alone, and

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<v Speaker 1>you never will be. You have people who care about you,

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<v Speaker 1>who love you, and who will do anything at all

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<v Speaker 1>to protect you. If you need help, turned to a teacher,

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<v Speaker 1>a family member, a local police officer, or a faith leader.

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<v Speaker 1>Answer hate with love, answer cruelty with kindness. We must

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<v Speaker 1>also work together to create a culture in our country

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<v Speaker 1>that embraces the dignity of life, that creates deep and

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<v Speaker 1>meaningful human connections, and that turns classmates and colleagues into

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<v Speaker 1>friends and neighbors. Our administration is working closely with local

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<v Speaker 1>authorities to investigate the shooting and learn everything we can.

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<v Speaker 1>We are committed to working with state and local leaders

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<v Speaker 1>to help secure our schools and tackle the difficult issue

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<v Speaker 1>of mental health. Later this month, I will be meeting

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<v Speaker 1>with the nation's governors and attorney generals. We're making our

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<v Speaker 1>schools and our children safer will be our top priority.

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<v Speaker 1>It is not enough to simple we take actions that

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<v Speaker 1>make us feel like we are making a difference, we

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<v Speaker 1>must actually make that difference. In times of tragedy. The

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<v Speaker 1>bonds that sustain us are those of family, faith, community,

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<v Speaker 1>and country. These bonds are stronger than the forces of

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<v Speaker 1>hatred and evil, and these bonds grow even stronger in

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<v Speaker 1>the hours of our greatest need. And so always, but

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<v Speaker 1>especially today, let us hold our loved ones clothes, let

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<v Speaker 1>us pray for healing and for peace, and let us

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<v Speaker 1>come together as one nation to wipe away the tears

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<v Speaker 1>and strive for a much better tomorrow. Thank you and

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<v Speaker 1>God bless you all. Thank you very much. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what we're saying here is um You know you hear that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this has to be and can be the

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<v Speaker 1>last time this happens. You know, think of where you

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<v Speaker 1>were yesterday or whatever time, and you turn on your

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<v Speaker 1>television set and there you see the seemingly endless line

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<v Speaker 1>of kids coming out of a school, now, some of

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<v Speaker 1>them having witnessed, some bodies on the ground, some not

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<v Speaker 1>alive and and live shattered, and some losing their friends,

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<v Speaker 1>some of just losing people that were in the school

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<v Speaker 1>shooting in the school. And then you think of the

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen families now that have spent the day with a

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<v Speaker 1>corner probably a funeral director, and now have to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with the loss of a child, and you think of

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, how do we stop that without the predictable,

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<v Speaker 1>same old talking points debate to get nothing done. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll have more on this tonight. We hope you'll join us.

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<v Speaker 1>Full coverage of all of this, the latest, nine eastern

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<v Speaker 1>on Hannity on the Fox News Channel. All right, that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna wrap things up at today. We'll have the latest

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<v Speaker 1>on the shooting that took place yesterday, seventeen dead, unbelievable,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course we'll have the very latest on memo gate,

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<v Speaker 1>visor gate and everything else. Sarah Carter. Much more full

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<v Speaker 1>coverage tonight. We hope you'll join us a d v R.

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<v Speaker 1>Hannity nine Eastern on the Fox News Channel. Many prayers

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<v Speaker 1>to the community down in Florida. Our thoughts and prayers

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<v Speaker 1>with Parkland and all these families and what they're going through.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so tough of them, Thanks for being with us,

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<v Speaker 1>See you tonight. Back here tomorrow