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Speaker 1: One thing always stands out in the midst of tragedy, horror, death, terrorism,

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Speaker 1: whatever it happens to be. The school shooting evil on display,

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Speaker 1: it was captured with this football coach. And here you

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Speaker 1: He was literally shielding students yesterday during this massacre at

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Speaker 1: Marjorie Stoneman Douglas High School. His name is Aaron Faces.

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Speaker 1: His name once a security guard at the school, apparently

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Speaker 1: you know, we we've gotten a lot of information in

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Speaker 1: we got off the air literally we were on the

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Speaker 1: air yesterday and it was reported up until we ended

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Speaker 1: the show about fifty eight minutes after the our fifty

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Speaker 1: We're off the air four minutes and it was seventeen

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Speaker 1: largest shooting, worst U S school shootings ever. Um, And

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Speaker 1: Everybody was saying on TV last night and today that

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Speaker 1: We had the red flags that we all say we want,

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Speaker 1: If we really really really care about security at our schools,

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Speaker 1: and it doesn't involve a discussion about the Second Amendment

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Speaker 1: wanted to tell you about our school's program to keep

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Speaker 1: our students and teachers safe. And it's a national program

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Speaker 1: based on the ALICE program. Are you familiar with that?

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Speaker 1: I am not. No. It's an acronym for alert, lockdown, inform,

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Speaker 1: counter and evacuate. And essentially what it is is that

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Speaker 1: we as teachers and administrators, we all have each other's

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Speaker 1: cell phone numbers. And if there there's only one unlocked

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Speaker 1: entrance to our school building once all the students are in,

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Speaker 1: so there's only one entry point from that point all

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Speaker 1: over the building, they try they have cameras to isolate

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Speaker 1: where the shooter is. They will isolate the people that

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Speaker 1: are in the direct line of content. You know, obviously

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Speaker 1: we're not going to evacuate those, but they're going to

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Speaker 1: evacuate everybody else around the building. While so, you've had

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Speaker 1: a full assessment, you've had a full threat assessment, a

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Speaker 1: comprehensive security assessment, and you're you're saying that this works.

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Speaker 1: You're saying that based on on your knowledge of all

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Speaker 1: these other shootings, if if these plans were put in

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Speaker 1: place else where, you believe it would have worked. Yes,

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Speaker 1: But I am amazed at the size of the campus

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Speaker 1: in Florida. It was huge campus. It was huge, and

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Speaker 1: it's bigger than the small towns that I live in

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Speaker 1: around here. Well, that means you're gonna have to hire

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Speaker 1: more people look securing the perimeter. I mean, if every

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Speaker 1: kid that goes into the school and every teacher that

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Speaker 1: goes into the school, I have an idea to get

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Speaker 1: into both buildings that I work at here in New

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Speaker 1: York City. Um, it doesn't bother me. I just pull

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Speaker 1: it out of my pocket. I hit the security. Literally

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Speaker 1: have to walk through a secure gate every day to

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Speaker 1: get into the buildings I work at. And it doesn't

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Speaker 1: bother me. Why couldn't every student have that? There were

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Speaker 1: more than people that work in the buildings that I'm in.

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Speaker 1: These buildings are massive, so I I think that's very doable.

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Speaker 1: And then you have, you know, once the kids are in,

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Speaker 1: then you have to have some perimeter monitoring of some kind.

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Speaker 1: And I don't care if it's done via you know,

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Speaker 1: some type of security cameras with somebody actually watching or

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Speaker 1: actually having people at at key points around the perimeter

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Speaker 1: of the school, then strategically placed within the school. And

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Speaker 1: you know, I would bet over time that the kids

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Speaker 1: would get to love the police officers that they met.

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Speaker 1: I bet they love the former military guys that they met.

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Speaker 1: I bet it would be great for relations. They begin

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Speaker 1: to understand them, they can talk to the kids. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I remember when I was in school,

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Speaker 1: I was best friends with the janitor. I'm gonna be

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Speaker 1: smoking in the bathroom every chance I got, and he

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Speaker 1: never ratted me out. Um. But you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: Laurie and I, Uh, that's a great example. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's go go ahead. Last word. The last word is

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Speaker 1: I think if those types of people are available to school,

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Speaker 1: would welcome them. Agreed, they are available, and I guarantee

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Speaker 1: if we asked for volunteers, we'd have probably thousands. Joe

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Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. Thank you so much, Laurie. What's up, Joe?

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Speaker 1: How are you Sean? It's a pleasure. Nice to talk

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Speaker 1: to you. What can I do for you, sir? Nice

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Speaker 1: to talk to you. First of all, ALICE training is

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Speaker 1: just uh, you sit through us a hundred and fifty dollars,

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Speaker 1: sit through a seminar, and then you're certified to go

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Speaker 1: teach that training and buy the materials from the company

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Speaker 1: that does ALICE training. So you have someone who sits

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Speaker 1: through an hour and a half about threat assessments and

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Speaker 1: mitigating threats, and then they're supposed to go back to

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Speaker 1: their schools and teach them. That doesn't work. What you

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Speaker 1: need is a version of school security like Sasha and

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Speaker 1: Malia had and now Baron has. Of course, the schools

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Speaker 1: that the President's children go to are a much higher

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Speaker 1: threat level, so as other schools were, of course looked

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Speaker 1: at by security professionals. You mitigate the threats, and then

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Speaker 1: there are investments in good cameras that can monitor. Good

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Speaker 1: cameras with the right software can monitor a door and

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Speaker 1: if any pixel in that changes, it can alert someone. I've, yes,

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Speaker 1: I've I'm a disabled American. I've volunteered with a veteran

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Speaker 1: owned company. I'm not going to mention their name, and

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Speaker 1: they came out of the d D space and have

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Speaker 1: tried to help schools with their comprehensive security an enterprise

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Speaker 1: system plugging in all their security assets and running it autonomously.

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Speaker 1: Listen without giving a lot of details away. I have

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Speaker 1: probably one of the most sophisticated home security systems you

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Speaker 1: can ever have. After a threat assessment and a security assessment,

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Speaker 1: after you know, over the years being in the public,

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Speaker 1: I may shock you some people don't like me a

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Speaker 1: lot and they made it known they don't like me

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Speaker 1: a lot. Um. So I know from firsthand experience what

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Speaker 1: these guys can do and how good they are. And

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Speaker 1: the equipment is so inexpensive. Now, I mean, to get

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Speaker 1: cameras in your home. It's it's so I mean, it

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Speaker 1: is just doable for everybody. The cost isn't the issue here,

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Speaker 1: the resolve, the desire to fix the problem and solve

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Speaker 1: the problem. And um, it's just how many more times

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Speaker 1: do we have to go down the same road. It

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Speaker 1: happens we have the same boring, typical talking points, nothing

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Speaker 1: gets done. How about this time we put real solutions

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Speaker 1: in place. And I'm saying to everybody, just transcend your

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Speaker 1: political argue. You're not gonna change anybody's mind. Abortion guns,

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna change anybody's mind. So let's put the

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Speaker 1: security assessment threat assessment every school in the country, even

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Speaker 1: nursery school, every school, and then go from there, and

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Speaker 1: then every school needs to have that comprehensive plan implemented.

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Speaker 1: I just I just don't believe that would not be

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Speaker 1: an overwhelmingly successful program. You can't compare ourselves to every

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Speaker 1: other countries because we say we're exceptional. The reason I

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Speaker 1: raised that is it in this case, we're gonna say

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Speaker 1: we're exceptional country. If you look at other pure countries,

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Speaker 1: in places like Japan or Western Europe, they do not

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Speaker 1: have the incidents of violence against children that we have

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Speaker 1: in this country. We we cannot in education and health

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Speaker 1: and death by guns, look in the mirror and say, actually,

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Speaker 1: if we're gonna be exceptional, we need to know we're

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Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna improve Washington if you match it against

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Speaker 1: public opinion polls of their constituents. Lawmakers in that city

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Speaker 1: are failing American people every day. Thank you so much, Brian.

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Speaker 1: And that, of course is the question. So much about

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Speaker 1: American exceptionalism is wonderful. How different we are from the

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Speaker 1: rest of the world is wonderful. The country of opportunity

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Speaker 1: and true freedom, and this part of the American exceptional

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Speaker 1: story isn't so easy to sell to the rest of

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Speaker 1: the world. For President Trump, there's been a theme in

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Speaker 1: many of his remarks. After that church shooting in Texas,

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Speaker 1: President Trump said it would be a little too soon

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Speaker 1: to talk about gun laws. After the massacre in Las Vegas,

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Speaker 1: he said, we'll be talking quote, we will talk about

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Speaker 1: gun laws as time goes on. David, there has not

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Speaker 1: been a very serious public policy conversation about gun control

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Speaker 1: here at this administration, in this White House. The President

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Speaker 1: tweeted today, no child, teacher, or anyone else should ever

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Speaker 1: feel unsafe in an American school. We will see if

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Speaker 1: this is the one that forces that policy conversation. Yet again.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you just you cannot have these conversations with

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Speaker 1: at least saying um every time. We are the only

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Speaker 1: nation that has this kind of violence, and presumably gun

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Speaker 1: violence obviously UH in particular focused on our children. It

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Speaker 1: is just ridiculous. My daughter is coming home from an

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Speaker 1: urban high school in the next twenty minutes. It's UM.

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Speaker 1: It's like no other country UH lives or allows themselves

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Speaker 1: to live. And here we are another time having a

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Speaker 1: discussion about guns as being a security issue for our children.

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Speaker 1: I know. I was just talking to a seven year

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Speaker 1: old on my show this week who lost her six

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Speaker 1: year old friend at a school shooting in in South Carolina.

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Speaker 1: She wrote as she wrote a letter to the president,

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Speaker 1: and I couldn't have put it better, you know. The

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Speaker 1: seven year old said, Mr President, how are you going

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Speaker 1: to keep children safe in this country? I have ten

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Speaker 1: nieces and nephews. We're talking about bump stocks, We're talking

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Speaker 1: about legislation. A child of God is dead. Cannot we

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Speaker 1: acknowledge in this country that we can't we cannot accept this.

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Speaker 1: I can't do a wolf, so we can't do it.

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Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna get back to you. But you're you're, you're, you're.

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Speaker 1: Obviously this is so emotional. Unfortunately it happens all too often,

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Speaker 1: and as a result, people say, we've got to learn

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Speaker 1: some lessons. Unfortunately, lessons are never never learned. This, according

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Speaker 1: to Bill Bratton, the former NYPD commissioner, is yet another

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Speaker 1: example of how this country seems to have the sick

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Speaker 1: preoccupation with guns and it manifests itself into these really

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Speaker 1: terrible mass shootings. This is a sickness that has infected

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Speaker 1: the country unchecked and unfettered gun violence. But with every

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Speaker 1: deadly shooting in this country, the odds get worse and

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Speaker 1: worse and worse. This is who we are right now,

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Speaker 1: But is this really who we want to be a

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Speaker 1: country where anybody at any time could be shot to death,

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Speaker 1: and then when a bunch of people are killed and

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Speaker 1: lives are shattered, we are sad and maybe angry, and

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Speaker 1: then we forget and we move on until the next time.

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Speaker 1: All right, all the predictable arguments that we hear after

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Speaker 1: every shooting, and you know this is sadly. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it happens literally within the hour before we even have

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Speaker 1: the details of what happens coming in. You just it

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Speaker 1: just goes right there and it's going to end the

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Speaker 1: same predictable result. And I've said there's many times I've

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Speaker 1: been in radio, thirty years, I've been on TV. Now

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Speaker 1: this is my twenty three year. In all these years,

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Speaker 1: I don't think I've convinced anybody about my position on

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Speaker 1: the Second Amendment. The it's not going to change, nor

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Speaker 1: is it the answer. So okay, so let's think out

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Speaker 1: of the box. Putting those predictable debates aside. Why shouldn't

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Speaker 1: the debate in the country be how do we keep

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Speaker 1: in this instance, our kids safe in school? Do we

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Speaker 1: have the ability to secure every school in America? And

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Speaker 1: I think the answer is yes. And I think the

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Speaker 1: answer is also would be tied into retired military, retired police, officers,

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Speaker 1: you know, fundamental security um of of that we do

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Speaker 1: every single day. In every building that I walk into

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Speaker 1: in New York, you have to be cleared. You you

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Speaker 1: don't get to just oh, let me run to the elevator.

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Speaker 1: It never happens, and if anybody attempts to do so,

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Speaker 1: it's a big deal. And and that's pretty much every

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Speaker 1: building in New York. That's a post nine eleven world,

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Speaker 1: although many places had a lot of these systems in

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Speaker 1: place even prior to nine eleven. You just don't get

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Speaker 1: to walk into any office building in New York and

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Speaker 1: it's secure and it works. And I think at the

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, if we decide just

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Speaker 1: pick any one school wherever you happen to live, and

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Speaker 1: if we decide we're going to keep that school safe,

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Speaker 1: absolutely it can be done anyway. So I don't think

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Speaker 1: the predict the predictable arguments of productive number one, nor

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Speaker 1: do I think they apply number two. Nor do I

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Speaker 1: think the facts bear out what everybody seems to you know, say,

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Speaker 1: you know, uh, reflexively after something tragic like this happens.

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Speaker 1: Joe Eaton is with US program director of Faster's I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry Faster Saves Lives dot org. John Lott, he's with

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Speaker 1: the he's the president of the Crime Prevention Research More Guns,

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Speaker 1: Less Crime, his best selling book, multiple additions out there.

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Speaker 1: Welcome both of you to the program. Look, John, I

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Speaker 1: mean every single shooting, this is where the media goes,

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Speaker 1: this is where people on the left go, and it

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Speaker 1: just it becomes, you know, groundhog Day all over again.

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Speaker 1: Nothing changes, nothing gets better. I think there is an answer.

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Speaker 1: If we decide to secure school we can do it.

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Speaker 1: And we've got the manpower. We have enough retired military

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Speaker 1: police officers I'm sure would love jobs inside of schools.

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Speaker 1: And if you have the proper security measures put in place,

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Speaker 1: I think this a lot of this can be prevented,

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Speaker 1: or at the very minimum, if something begins to happen,

643
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Speaker 1: it could be minimized. Does that makes sense, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. Look, I'm very frustrated by this.

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Speaker 1: I've been making similar arguments since and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: I listening to the politicians on TV yesterday coming out

647
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: with different types of proposals like background checks on private transfers.

648
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Speaker 1: I mean President Obama after each of the man's public

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Speaker 1: shootings that he's talked about, that was the one type

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Speaker 1: of legislation he put forward. I just wish during one

651
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Speaker 1: of his press conferences somebody would have asked him, Miss President,

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Speaker 1: can you point to one single mass public shooting that

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Speaker 1: if this law had been in effect it would have stopped,

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Speaker 1: because at least any of the attacks during this century

655
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Speaker 1: wouldn't have been stopped as a result of having that

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Speaker 1: law on effect. You know, you look at some of

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Speaker 1: the other things. I was listening to uh Senator Nelson

658
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Speaker 1: from Florida talk about the terror watch list yesterday. All

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Speaker 1: you know, one, I think he completely mischaracterized what the

660
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Speaker 1: debate was between the Republicans and the Democrats. But beyond that,

661
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: how is that relevant to this? I think there's a

662
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Speaker 1: simple thing that can be done, and that is allowing

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Speaker 1: people in the schools to be able to go and

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Speaker 1: protect themselves, to get rid of these gun free zones.

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Speaker 1: The one thing that we see happen virtually every time

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Speaker 1: over of these mass public shootings have occurred in places

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Speaker 1: where we don't allow general citizens to be able to

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Speaker 1: go and defend themselves. But you know, I'm not sure though.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, and I have no problem I've carried

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Speaker 1: a weapon all of my adult life so UM, And

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00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 1: I'm a big supporter of the Second Amendment. I just am.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not going to change my mind. And I've

673
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Speaker 1: looked at your book and the many editions of it.

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Speaker 1: But I actually think the the idea that teachers in

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Speaker 1: a classroom, um are the answer. I'm not so sure.

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Speaker 1: I think it's got to be. I think it's it's

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00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: got to be more systematic than that. I think you've

678
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Speaker 1: got to we now have to say we really want

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Speaker 1: to protect schools. These are the security measures that will work.

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00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: These doors must be closed. People are outside the perimeter

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Speaker 1: of schools. Uh, then you have people on the inside,

682
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Speaker 1: there's one entering point, etcetera, etcetera. I mean, those are

683
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Speaker 1: basic fundamental things. If we want to secure a white house,

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Speaker 1: obviously you know you're gonna have a lot more security.

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Speaker 1: But if we want to secure a school, I think

686
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Speaker 1: we can do it. Retired military, retired police. Yeah, they're armed,

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Speaker 1: Uh they don't. They can conceal it. It's not like

688
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Speaker 1: they have to walk around with machine guns or or whatever.

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Speaker 1: And I just think everybody will have the peace of

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Speaker 1: mind then that they know that they have a front

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Speaker 1: line of defense right there on the ground. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I believe that having a few staff or a couple

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Speaker 1: teachers someplace who are unknown to the attacker would dramatically

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Speaker 1: alter the equations that we're talking about in terms of

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Speaker 1: their incentives to go and do the attack. No, I'm

696
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Speaker 1: not against it, all right, Joe, Now I understood, But

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Speaker 1: what I would say is, so much of this discussion

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Speaker 1: is about having kind of uniform arm guards or armed

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Speaker 1: guards or people that are identified. Is uh, it is

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Speaker 1: providing the protection there. If you had somebody who is

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Speaker 1: ex milk, you know, law enforcement there and he wasn't

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Speaker 1: a teacher, and the students realized that he was there

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Speaker 1: in order to do the guarding, that dramatically reduces his effecting.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about, though, John, a full comprehensive security assessment,

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Speaker 1: and a full comprehensive that would mean, okay, where are

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Speaker 1: the areas of vulnerability? How does somebody that shouldn't be

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Speaker 1: on the property get on the property? That would mean

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Speaker 1: that you know, kids have like, for example, I have

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Speaker 1: ideas to get into the buildings that I get into,

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Speaker 1: and that you know over time that very quickly in

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Speaker 1: the course of a year, that they're gonna know who

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Speaker 1: belongs in that school. Who doesn't belong in that school.

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Speaker 1: I can even tell you as a parent, you know,

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Speaker 1: going to schools sometimes I have to sign in, I

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Speaker 1: have to show by license. I mean, uh. And I'm

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Speaker 1: not against it at all. I don't think it's just

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Speaker 1: it's not any different if we really want to stop it.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a solution. Joe, let me bring it

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Speaker 1: into this equation. Do you like any of these ideas

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Speaker 1: and specifically what you work on? Well, I can certainly

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Speaker 1: say I agree with just about everything that both you

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Speaker 1: and Mr Lott have said, and actually with quite a bit,

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Speaker 1: even the absurd comments that you ran in the promo.

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Speaker 1: And that's exactly what the Faster Saves Lives program has

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Speaker 1: been doing, is giving schools an option with the realities

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Speaker 1: they deal with today. I think all of us can

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Speaker 1: agree we would love to wake up tomorrow in a

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Speaker 1: world where we don't have to worry about violence impacting

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Speaker 1: our families or our communities. But the reality is every

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Speaker 1: day these school administrators have to wake up wondering if

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Speaker 1: violence is going to be a part of their school

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Speaker 1: that day. And a lot of these schools are realizing

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Speaker 1: that they have the ability to change the outcome of

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Speaker 1: these scenarios of looking at everything that has happened. Our

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Speaker 1: foundation has been providing this training to schools for over

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Speaker 1: five years now. We've worked with over thirteen hundred school

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Speaker 1: staff from two twenty five different districts across I think

738
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Speaker 1: it's twelve states at this point. And what we do

739
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Speaker 1: is provide them number one, the ability when this violence

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Speaker 1: occurs in their school is the first stop the killing

741
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Speaker 1: as soon as possible, and in fact, lee start the

742
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Speaker 1: medical aid as soon as possible. And then when the

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Speaker 1: professionals show up, they actually have live, viable patients they

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Speaker 1: can transfer to them instead of victims that we see

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00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: in so many of these situations. The extent, what what

746
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: about the first step is the first step doesn't have

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Speaker 1: to be a comprehensive security assessment of every school, But

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00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: you're exactly right. And what I find is by the

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Speaker 1: time a school staff looks at the option of having

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Speaker 1: firearms as part of their safety plan, either with arms,

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00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: school resource officers or other arms staff in the building,

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00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: these schools already have layer upon layer upon layer of

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00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: protection in the schools, and if a threat is internal

754
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: to their schools, such as from one of their students,

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00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: there's a lot of good they can do with setting

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00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: up chip lines, with monitoring social media, with having a

757
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: good run by the way that that all happened here,

758
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: every sign, every bit of evidence that we ever needed.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you quote everybody, I know, I'll use

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00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: the quote they joke that he'd shoot up the school.

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00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: It's not wasn't a joke, and it's not a joke.

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00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: Everybody knew. You know, this kid was thrown out of school.

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Speaker 1: The FBI was told about this kid. He's he wants

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Speaker 1: to be known as a school shooter. So, in other words,

765
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: we we had the signs and said nobody seemed to

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Speaker 1: follow up. Is the problem here? But stay right there.

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Speaker 1: We'll take a break. We'll come back right as we continue.

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Speaker 1: Sean Hannity Show one, Shawn, if you want to be

769
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Speaker 1: a part of this extravaganza anyway. Joe Eaton is with

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Speaker 1: US program director faster U Saves Lives dot org as

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Speaker 1: his website. John Lott, the president of the Crime Prevention

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Speaker 1: Research Center and also the author of More Guns, Less Crime. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of people here they go, this is outrageous.

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00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 1: You went and looked at this on a statistical basis

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00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: that those cities those towns, those countries that have the

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Speaker 1: most severe the toughest gun control laws. It doesn't work.

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00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: So then why does everybody always race to a solution

778
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: that you can prove doesn't work. Well. I think a

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00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 1: lot of what happens is that people, uh, you know,

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00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: get affected by the news coverage here. They hear about

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00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: bad things that happened with guns. They rarely hear about benefits,

782
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: and so it affects their perceptions about the costs and

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00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 1: benefits of people having guns to all. And I think,

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00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: you know, you look at these mass public shootings. My

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00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 1: guess is the entire debate that we have right now

786
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: would be dramatically different if the media just reported a

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Speaker 1: few things a little bit differently, if they mentioned once

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00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: in a while that these another attack occurred in a

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00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: place where general citizens were banned from having guns. You know,

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00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: at some point they would realize, jeez, it seems like

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00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: almost every time this is happening, you know, percent of

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00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,439
Speaker 1: these attacks are occurring in places where people aren't able

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00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: to go and defend themselves. Yeah, I mean that that

794
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: is a big problem, you know, And I always ask everybody,

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00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: you know, and jil this goes back to maybe the

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00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 1: program that you're doing here. But you know, if you're

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00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: in any administrative building, here's a question that I think

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00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: is very simple, and God forbid, you are in a

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Speaker 1: situation where there's an active shooter, would you prefer to

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Speaker 1: have trained retired military that are armed there, trained retired

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00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: police that are armed there at least offering some help,

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00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: some assist in some line of defense. And for me,

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00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 1: I think, you know, regardless of where you stand on

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00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: the gun issue, I gotta believe the answer would be yes,

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00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: You're right, And that's what we see. We can all

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00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 1: agree that if they're going to be guns in the schools,

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Speaker 1: they cannot be in the hands of criminals or untrained people.

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00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: And that's what the Faster Saves Lives program does is

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Speaker 1: give the school staff who are in the school buildings

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Speaker 1: this training. What we see in every situation is every

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Speaker 1: time one of these events happens, there are certain staff,

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Speaker 1: and they're in every school building in the United States.

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Speaker 1: When a killer comes into that building, they're going to

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Speaker 1: go willingly stand between these murders and these innocent kids,

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Speaker 1: and they're going to give up their life to buy

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00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: these kids a few extra seconds of life. As a

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00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: school and as a community, as a nation. If you

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Speaker 1: have staff they're willing to go stand between these murders

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Speaker 1: and these kids, we owe it to them to say

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Speaker 1: you're going there anyway, show up with any tool or

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Speaker 1: any training you're comfortable with, so you have some chance

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Speaker 1: of going home to your family at the end of

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Speaker 1: the night. And that's what the Fastest Eight Lives program

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Speaker 1: help schools do. They identify the staff. We trained them

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Speaker 1: to a level higher than what we require our law

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Speaker 1: enforcement between two. Yeah, just just to me is common sense,

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Speaker 1: and that is comprehensive security assessments. Everybody all hands on

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Speaker 1: deck and and we do have professionals that are look

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Speaker 1: at this coach that you know was shot and killed

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Speaker 1: protecting his students. Unbelievable, unbelievable heroism. All right, thank you

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Speaker 1: both for being with us. Appreciate your insight, your input.

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Speaker 1: Eight nine one, Shawn, if you want to be a

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00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: part of the program, will shift gears a little bit

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Speaker 1: in the bottom half hour, we'll check in with Mark

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Speaker 1: Meadows and Jim Jordan's this immigration bill that's being pushed

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Speaker 1: as a disaster straight ahead. It was very important to

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Speaker 1: me with respect to the budget, was Dacca. I did

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Speaker 1: not want DOCTA in the budget. I wanted DOCTA separate

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Speaker 1: so that we could talk about it and make a deal.

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Speaker 1: And I hope to be able to make a deal.

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Speaker 1: I hope the Democrats are not going to use it

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Speaker 1: just as a campaign. You know, they've been talking about

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00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: data for many years and they haven't produced We started

844
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: talking about DOCTA, and I think we'll produce is. But

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Speaker 1: if the Democrats want to make a deal, it's really

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Speaker 1: up to them, because we want really tremendous border security.

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Speaker 1: But we have to have Democrats support for DOCCA, and

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Speaker 1: they are starting that process today. We didn't want to

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Speaker 1: have it in the big budget because if we have

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Speaker 1: it in the big budget, it's going to get mixed

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00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: up with all of the other things. So now we

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Speaker 1: have our military taken care of, and now we start

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Speaker 1: very serious DOCCTA talks today, and we are I can

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Speaker 1: tell you speaking for the Republican Party, we would love

855
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Speaker 1: to do DOCCA. We would love to get it done.

856
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: We want border security and the other elements that you

857
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: know about chain migration, you know about the visa lottery,

858
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: you know about But we think there's a good chance

859
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: of getting DOCTA done if the Democrats are serious and

860
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: they actually want to do it all right to the

861
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 1: top of the one sean that was the President talking

862
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 1: about the ongoing battle right now in the US Senate

863
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: over the immigration Billy said, I'm asking all senators and

864
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: both parties to support the grass Lee bill and to

865
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: oppose any legislation that fails to fulfill these four pillars

866
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 1: that he talked about during his State of the Union address,

867
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Speaker 1: including opposing any short term band aid approach. Said, the

868
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Speaker 1: overwhelming majority of American voters support a plan that fulfills

869
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Speaker 1: the frameworks for pillars, which moves us toward the safe,

870
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: modern and lawful immigration system that people deserve. Now, this

871
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: is the bill that was put out by Senator Chuck Grassley.

872
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: It pretty much talks about It does give on DACA

873
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: for about one point eight million illegal immigrants and twenty

874
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 1: five million for border security. I assume that's being paid

875
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: up front or else I wouldn't do any deal that

876
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: doesn't give you the money up front to build the wall,

877
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: to end the diversity visa lottery, and phase out jay migration. Uh.

878
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: The bill that seems to be getting the most traction

879
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 1: is this so called middle of the Road bill. But

880
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: when you have Jeff Flake and Susan Collins authoring this thing,

881
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: I guarantee you it's not going to be anything like

882
00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: what the president wants. As a matter of fact, we

883
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: already no, it doesn't look like what the president wants.

884
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 1: Jim Jordan's Mark Meadows, Ohio, North Carolina Freedom Caucus Members,

885
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: welcome both of you back to the program to be

886
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Speaker 1: with Sean. Thanks so much. Where are both of you

887
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:17,280
Speaker 1: on the grass Lee bill? Although obviously the Collins Bill

888
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: and this whatever group of people seem to be uh,

889
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: you know, pushing more towards an amnesty bill and not

890
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: the president's priorities. That's what we're calling it selling. This

891
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: is Jim here, we're calling it the amnesty eight bill. Right,

892
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 1: you got eight Republicans, eight Democrats in the center. That's

893
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: that's just an amnesty bill, not in any way consistent

894
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: with what the President has talked about and what the

895
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: American people demanded when they put us all in power

896
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 1: in office in the election. So the best bill is

897
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Speaker 1: the good lab Bill. The second best one is the

898
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: Grassley Bill, But the one that needs to pass in

899
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 1: the House is Chairman good Laps Bill because it does

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00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: all the things the President talked about, plus thanks to

901
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: where City, plus e verify, plus Kate's Law, all those

902
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 1: things that make sense. Uh that that those are elements

903
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: that are contained in Chairman good lads legislation. What do

904
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: you think, Congressman Congressman Medows, you know, I'm looking at

905
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: this and I'm like, here, we go back to the

906
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: same thing every time, and that's capitulating to the Democrats

907
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: on every single bill. I don't think the Democrats want

908
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: to bill. I think that at least up to now,

909
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,919
Speaker 1: now that the polls have been changing, the President's popularities

910
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: now at a high. You look at the generic ballot numbers,

911
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: they have moved very heavily in Republican direction. I think

912
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 1: the certainly the economic bill passed at the end of

913
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: the year had a big the tax bill had a

914
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: big part to play in it um And I think, actually,

915
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: if this comes down to a debate, the winning issue

916
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: is securing the borders and securing him first. Well, it is,

917
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 1: and and this is an issue that obviously the President

918
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 1: defined himself different than all the candidates that he ran against,

919
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: and and the American people spoke in November they said,

920
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: what we want is someone who will actually address this problem.

921
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: The President has been consistent with that, and yet we

922
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: see over in the Senate right now, this whole debate

923
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: with a few moderate Republicans teaming up with the Democrats

924
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: trying to support a bill that honestly, the President didn't

925
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: campaign on Jim Jordan and I didn't campaign on. And

926
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Speaker 1: and I'm pleased to hear that the White House has

927
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: offered a veto threat UH if that happened to get

928
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 1: out of the Senate, bravo. I applaud the President for

929
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: doing that, But I can I can tell you that Jim,

930
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 1: my good friend Jim Jordan, is right. We need to

931
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: put forth the most conservative bill out of the House.

932
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: Let that uh set the debate. And if we do that,

933
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: I think that we'll get a bill that supports the

934
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: four pillars that the President has outlined. Okay, what about that?

935
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: There are a lot of people We always get these

936
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: tax increase, the spending increase, and we never get the

937
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: spending cuts. That's always ten years down the line, and

938
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: it never never happens. You always get the amnesty going

939
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: back to two thousand and six. You always get some

940
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 1: type of concession from people that didn't respect our laws

941
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: and sovereignty, but you never end up getting the walls

942
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 1: built and the border secure. How do we ensure that,

943
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: regardless of how this all turns out, that that wall

944
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 1: gets built. I think number one, it's good for the

945
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: country and are it makes sense for the country. And

946
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Speaker 1: number two, it's good politically because it will be the

947
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: first time we ever got done what we said we

948
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: were going to get done. Yeah, so you're exactly right.

949
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: The American people are not going to tolerate that once again,

950
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: that that they won't buy that that whole line. Oh,

951
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,720
Speaker 1: it will do the amnesty now, but we promise, promise, promise,

952
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: will eventually get to border security. That is not going

953
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: to fly. And the one person they trust on this

954
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 1: issue is the President United States. So that's why I

955
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: mentioned Chairman good Left legislation, Sean, because it does it

956
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: in the prioritizing way that the American people know it

957
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 1: has to get done, and the way you've talked about

958
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 1: it getting done, which is border security wall first, to

959
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:44,240
Speaker 1: enchain migration, get rid of this crazy sanctuary city policy,

960
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 1: deal with Kate's Law, get rid of the visa lot

961
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: of all those that that legislation has, like twenty two

962
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 1: different key policy areas. The first twenty one or everything

963
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: that is common sense in the American people spoke loudly

964
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,399
Speaker 1: and clearly about. And then the last one says, and oh,

965
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 1: by the way, we're also going to address the doctor situation.

966
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Speaker 1: That's done in the prioritizing fashion and manner that is

967
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: consistent with what we were elected to do. So that's

968
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: why Mark and I for the last several weeks we've

969
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 1: been pushing the good that legislation. We we tried to

970
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: ramp up to talk about that because that's the one

971
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 1: that we need to get done in As Mark said,

972
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,879
Speaker 1: where's the leadership on this? Though? Where is Paul Ryan?

973
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: They finally whipped it. They finally whipped it. But let's

974
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: let's let's hope they put the full strength of the

975
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: leadership behind the whip and start persuading people this is

976
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: the right thing to put down first, because it's consistent

977
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: with the American people believe. Why would you let Susan

978
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: Collins and a bill, would you know, Senator Flake go

979
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: through with only Democrats and say somehow, this is what

980
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna passed on. Their plan is okay, they're gonna

981
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: pass Stacca they're gonna provide billion, they say a border security,

982
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 1: but only give you two point five billion. This is

983
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: over ten years. That sounds to be like John McCain's proposal. Well,

984
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 1: let's study it, uh in the year. Well, that's just

985
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 1: the way of punting the problem down the road like

986
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 1: they always do. That's the same old Washington swamp. Well

987
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: it is the same old swamp. And if you want

988
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: to make sure that the Publican party is in the minority,

989
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 1: become this November in the House and that we lose

990
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:10,479
Speaker 1: seats in the Senate. Uh, let's just continue down that road.

991
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 1: You know, Jim Jordan's says it best. He says, it

992
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: never hurts to do what you promised the American people

993
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: you would do. We said that we were going to

994
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: be tough on uh immigration, making sure that we have

995
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: a secure boarder, making sure sanctuary cities and the like

996
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,760
Speaker 1: are dealt with. And if we don't do that, uh,

997
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: you know, people are gonna either show up or not

998
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: show up in November. But it will not be good

999
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: news for anybody in our party. And so that's why

1000
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 1: we've got to address this and make sure that we

1001
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: actually build a wall. That we don't talk about it,

1002
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: that we actually, uh, make sure that we address this

1003
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 1: and don't provide amnesty without fixing the root cause of

1004
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 1: the problem. You know, I'm looking at and this was

1005
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: an article on one of the blogs I saw earlier

1006
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: today that if you look at the latest numbers, that

1007
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,959
Speaker 1: Republicans are doing a lot better generically on the ballot,

1008
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,760
Speaker 1: and the President's doing very well at a number of polls,

1009
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: better than he has done. And I would attribute a

1010
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 1: lot of it to the economic fallout. Now that people

1011
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 1: are seeing their their taxes cut fairly significantly on a

1012
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 1: weekly basis starting in February, I think they're beginning to

1013
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 1: get the message that, oh, wait a minute, I think

1014
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: I've been paying way too much in taxes. Um. This

1015
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: is one of the main reasons he won the election,

1016
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 1: So why not. Why isn't the Republican leadership in both

1017
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: the House and said it just embracing anything. You're you're

1018
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: so rightel And the reason the numbers are up is

1019
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 1: because the tax bill is something we said we would

1020
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 1: do and we did it, and people are feeling the

1021
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: impact of that. Right now. The President said he's gonna

1022
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: put Neo Gorsets on the court in good conservative the

1023
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: court and he did it. The President has said he's

1024
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: gonna make Isis backpedal, and they're doing it. The President

1025
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 1: said he was going to put the embassy in Jerusalem,

1026
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: and he's doing it. So when the president, that's what

1027
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: the American people love about this president. He does what

1028
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: he says. And here we come to immigration and if

1029
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: and if we can just help the president do what

1030
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 1: he said he was going to do, his numbers are

1031
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: going even higher. How many people when you talk to

1032
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: when when remember when Nikki Haley said, if you don't

1033
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: start voting with us at the United Nations, we were

1034
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 1: going to remember that. The American people love that because

1035
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: it's the respect and and focus that there should be

1036
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: at places like that. So that's what they appreciate, appreciate

1037
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: so much about this president. And if we can do

1038
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: that on immigration, all that that that that will be

1039
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 1: so good for his for his approbating, but more importantly

1040
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: be good for the country. Both of you have been

1041
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: following these stories and involving the abuse of FISA, and

1042
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: we have no information today. This was put out by

1043
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 1: the Daily Caller that Bruce or actually hit his wife's

1044
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: fusion GPS payments. His wife Nellie actually did some of

1045
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: the research for the phony, fake Russian dossier that Hillary

1046
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: bought and paid for um and that in and of itself,

1047
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 1: that a mission can be a crime. What are your

1048
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: thoughts on that. Well, you know, Sean, you've been covering

1049
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: this when no one else would cover it, and everybody

1050
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 1: was criticizing you for bringing this to the attention of

1051
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 1: the American voter. And yet now you've been vindicated. Here

1052
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: here we are seeing that Bruce Or who actually worked

1053
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: for the Department of Justice, his wife was employed by

1054
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: the very group that was doing the opposition research. And

1055
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: yet they didn't disclose that. Not only did they not

1056
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: disclose it to the pis a cord, but now we're

1057
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 1: finding out that they didn't disclose it in terms of

1058
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: ethics forms. You know, there's collusion going on, and that

1059
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: collusion is not between the President and the Russians. It's

1060
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: between the Democrat Party, the Department of Justice, the FBI,

1061
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: and really the whole narrative of the deep state trying

1062
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: to make sure that they influenced an election. Gotta take

1063
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 1: a break more with Jim Jordan Mark Meadows on the

1064
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: other side of this. Right as we continue with Freedom

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Speaker 1: caucus members. Their chairman is Mark Meadows. He's from North Carolina.

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Speaker 1: Former chairman. He got dismissed from the job. Is actually

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Speaker 1: laid off and fired. Jim Jordan of Ohio. Do you

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Speaker 1: guys have term limits on this? How did that work out?

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Speaker 1: The term limits? Both of us are. Was there a

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Speaker 1: coup somehow in their uh Mark Meadows chakeing out his

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Speaker 1: his wrestling buddy, Jim Jordan. I don't know what happened. Listen,

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Speaker 1: I would end up pen on every single time going

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Speaker 1: up against the gentleman from no He's he's tough, good

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Speaker 1: thing that I know martial arts. I could hurt them. Um.

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Speaker 1: But besides that, Look, we have this terrible, terrible school shooting.

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Speaker 1: Another tragedy. We've had a lot of them, and I'm

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Speaker 1: watching and I almost I get a headache watching the

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Speaker 1: same predictable arguments and discussions going on. I'm not interested

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Speaker 1: in these predictable talking points anymore. And to me, I

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Speaker 1: think there's an answer, and that is every single school

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Speaker 1: in the country should have a comprehensive security assessment. After

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Speaker 1: that assessment, a plan has got to be organized, and

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Speaker 1: that means securing the perimeter of these schools. And that

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Speaker 1: would mean hiring former military, retired military retired police. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be armed. Yes, it can be concealed, but

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Speaker 1: we've got there is a way to safe in the

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Speaker 1: environment in these schools and prevent some of these tragedies

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Speaker 1: and at least minimize them if God forbid they break out,

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Speaker 1: agree or disagree. Uh, Congressman Jordan's Yeah, I think you're right, son.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's so many, so many churches now are

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Speaker 1: doing the same thing. They have a plan in place,

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Speaker 1: and they have some of their some of their parishioners

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Speaker 1: who have their concealed carry license are actually coming to

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Speaker 1: church with their their you know, armed but obviously concealed

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Speaker 1: as a way to to hopefully if if something terrible

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Speaker 1: like this ever happens at those locations, they're better equipped

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Speaker 1: to deal with it. I think you're right. We may

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Speaker 1: have to step this up and figure out the safest

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Speaker 1: possible way to deal with evil when it when it

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Speaker 1: raises its ugly head, like like we saw again yesterday

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Speaker 1: in in Florida. Yeah, Congressman Medals, Yeah. I think the

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Speaker 1: other interesting aspect is when when we look and we

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Speaker 1: talk to law enforcement officers, they understand how to secure

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Speaker 1: our schools. And basically it's a it's a resource issue,

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Speaker 1: school resource officers, you know, metal detectors and the like. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: we we want to make sure that anybody who goes

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Speaker 1: school can do so in a safe environment. And so

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Speaker 1: I think that you'll see additional legislation coming from this

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Speaker 1: administration that says, let's make sure that we have enough

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Speaker 1: resources to protect those students that go Uh to default

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Speaker 1: to the normal talking points on both the Democrat and

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Speaker 1: Republican side of things is is not appropriate. But I

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Speaker 1: agree with you, let's do a real assessment, Sean, and

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Speaker 1: make sure that we can provide a safe environment for

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Speaker 1: our students. Now, one of the things that everybody said, well,

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Speaker 1: we can't afford this, We can't. I said, we can't

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Speaker 1: afford not to at this point. And I really believe

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Speaker 1: that people have served their whole lives and they're in retirement,

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Speaker 1: and I know I have friends of mine that have

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Speaker 1: retired five weeks later. I'm so bored. I can't take

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Speaker 1: it anymore. And people that have served their whole life

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Speaker 1: would probably look at it as an opportunity and a challenge,

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Speaker 1: and they'd have a desire, they'd feel an important role

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Speaker 1: that they're playing and keeping the local school system safe.

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Speaker 1: I guarantee you they'd be lining up to do these jobs.

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Speaker 1: I think they would be lining up to do the jobs.

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Speaker 1: But I think the other part of that is, you know,

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Speaker 1: we dispassed a budget that Jim and I were just

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Speaker 1: very troubled by the numbers. But we did a hundred

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Speaker 1: and thirty one billion dollars as a billion with a B.

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Speaker 1: Why not take a lion share of that money and

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Speaker 1: let's start looking at our school resource officers. If we're

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Speaker 1: going to do something instead of growing the size of

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Speaker 1: government here in Washington, d C. Let's look at reallocating

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Speaker 1: some of those dollars and making sure it goes back

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Speaker 1: to our states and local counties to provide additional resources

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Speaker 1: for those schools. Let's make sure that there's some kind

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Speaker 1: of return. Yeah, I gotta let you both. Well, I'm

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Speaker 1: not I'm not cutting your short here, but Jim Jordan's

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Speaker 1: and uh Mark Meadows two of the people that really

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Speaker 1: are fighting for the conservative values in this country. If

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Speaker 1: not for the Freedom Caucus, it would be a thousand

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Speaker 1: times worse than it is for the country and the

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Speaker 1: president right now. Thank you both for what you do.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Eight nine for one, Shawn is a

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Speaker 1: toll free telephone number. We'll take a quick break, we'll

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Speaker 1: come back. We'll continue, all right, News rounds up, information

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Speaker 1: overload our Shawn Hannity Show eight d nine for one, Shawn,

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Speaker 1: I to play. This is from the Sun from earlier today.

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Speaker 1: This is the guy that said he alerted the FBI

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Speaker 1: to this YouTube comment about this this shooter Nicholas Cruz

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Speaker 1: that you know he wanted to be UH known as

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Speaker 1: a professional school shooter. That was literally posted on YouTube.

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Speaker 1: He told the FBI. The FBI came to visit him

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Speaker 1: the day after he alerted the FBI about all this,

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Speaker 1: and then I'm we're gonna play the FBI agent saying

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Speaker 1: in yeah, they had information about this comment. Listen to this.

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Speaker 1: September two thousand seventeen, I sent a a screenshot of

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Speaker 1: a comment on one of my videos. Now people keep

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Speaker 1: asking me which video was it. I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: don't remember what video it was. When I saw the

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Speaker 1: comment come through on my UH studio app on my iPhone,

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Speaker 1: I screenshot of the comment, I hit the report work button,

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Speaker 1: reported to YouTube. Of course, they removed the comment and

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Speaker 1: then I tried to email it to the FBI. UM.

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Speaker 1: I found an email address tips at FBI dot gov.

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Speaker 1: Sent it to that email address. I immediately got back

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Speaker 1: a m domain air. Basically that email address didn't exist.

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Speaker 1: So I looked up the number for UH, our local

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Speaker 1: field office, and I called it. I left a message. Well,

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Speaker 1: the next day I had two FBI agents standing in

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Speaker 1: my office, UM and taking down the information, taking down

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Speaker 1: the UH, taking copies of the screenshot, and asking me

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Speaker 1: questions that of course I couldn't answer. You know, all

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Speaker 1: it was and my channel was a a comment. You know,

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Speaker 1: people leave pretty famous comments on a pretty regular basis

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Speaker 1: on this channel, UM, and I really didn't think anything

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Speaker 1: of it. But what I did think was, you know,

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Speaker 1: this comment said I'm going to be a professional school shooter.

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Speaker 1: And I knew that I couldn't just ignore that. In

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Speaker 1: two thousand and seventeen, the FBI received information about a

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Speaker 1: comment made on a YouTube channel. The comments simply said

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be a professional school shooter. No other

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Speaker 1: information was included with that comment which would indicate a

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Speaker 1: time location for the true identity of the person who

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Speaker 1: made the comment. The FBI conducted database reviews checks what

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Speaker 1: was was unable to further identify the person who actually

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Speaker 1: made the comment. Again, as a native South Floridian, my

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Speaker 1: heart goes out to the victims, the families and friends,

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Speaker 1: and the entire community. Thank you. If I've heard one

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Speaker 1: time in the last twenty four hours, I've heard it

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Speaker 1: a thousand. If you see something, say some thing. Okay,

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Speaker 1: the guy saw something, reported it to the FBI, did

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Speaker 1: all of the right things, and apparently it was widely

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Speaker 1: known in the school that this kid was the kid.

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Speaker 1: And then of course we have all the social media

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Speaker 1: fingerprints of this guy, Nicholas Cruz. All the evidence that

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Speaker 1: we needed that this was the guy that would probably

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Speaker 1: do something like this was there. People were speaking out,

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Speaker 1: people knew what, people said it. Now the question is

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Speaker 1: how did we miss it? Because they missed it. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not blaming anyone individual. I I I go back

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Speaker 1: to what I've been saying all day that every school

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Speaker 1: in this country at this point, all of these predictable

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Speaker 1: talking points are meaningless to all of us. The priority.

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Speaker 1: This isn't a gun debate at this point. This is

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Speaker 1: a security debate. And if we want to secure every

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Speaker 1: school in America, there's nobody that's gonna be able to

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Speaker 1: convince me we can't do it. We it's really a

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Speaker 1: matter of a comprehensive security assessment of every school in

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Speaker 1: the country and then implementing it with hired military and

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Speaker 1: retired police. If we really want to keep our kids safe,

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Speaker 1: they would be the front line of defense. Now you say, okay, well, Sean,

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Speaker 1: they had enough security guard at the school. The school

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Speaker 1: had multiple buildings and thirty kids. That's not enough security.

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Speaker 1: That's not what I'm talking about. Haraldo Rivera, my friend

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Speaker 1: and colleague from Fox News joins us and Jonathan Gillham

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Speaker 1: former Well, you have a former Navy seal, Navy seal

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Speaker 1: and Air marshal and all around good guy. He's with

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Speaker 1: us as well. Horaldo. A lot of people got pretty

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Speaker 1: piste off at you on the show last night because

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Speaker 1: you started talking about guns. I don't think the guns

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Speaker 1: are the issue here. I think if we want to

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Speaker 1: secure any building in this country, we have the ability

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Speaker 1: to do it, and let's do it. The President agreed, obviously, Sewan.

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Speaker 1: His remarks were totally I think in uh keeping with

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Speaker 1: the spirit of what you said last night, and I

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Speaker 1: just want to remind you, my dear brother, and the

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Speaker 1: audience that I agreed with you on that page. You did,

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Speaker 1: you did. But they were a hundreds of thousands of

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Speaker 1: A R fifteen type military style assault weapons out there.

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Speaker 1: Let's say one percent of the people that own them

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Speaker 1: are freaks. One percent is one percent freaks in any

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Speaker 1: group of boy Scouts, of of nuns, you pick a group,

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Speaker 1: there's one percent of crazy people. So there are a

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Speaker 1: lot of weapons that can do thirty some people killed

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Speaker 1: with handguns at another school shooting because the guy had

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Speaker 1: multiple handguns. Ultimately, you know, the only way that argument's

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Speaker 1: gonna worry. Let's say you get rid of a R

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Speaker 1: fifteen all right, then the next shooting is with the

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Speaker 1: guy that has five handguns and as quick at reloading them,

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Speaker 1: and then the next shooting is another type of thing.

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Speaker 1: I don't buy that argument, just because I've been around

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Speaker 1: the military too often, and Jonathan far more than me. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, there's a reason they've developed the weapon as nifty,

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Speaker 1: as handy, as easy to reload as the A R fifteen.

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Speaker 1: It's not for shooting ducks. As they said last time.

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Speaker 1: I don't care that people get angry at me. That's

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Speaker 1: not that's not my my thing. I would not have

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Speaker 1: lasted in this business all these decades if I cared

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Speaker 1: about people getting mad at me or not. But I

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Speaker 1: like your idea, and I have advocated your idea. There

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Speaker 1: should be one good guy with the gun at every

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Speaker 1: place where there are school children, and the school should

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Speaker 1: be as safe as places where we keep I think

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Speaker 1: it could be made totally safe. I mean, if you

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Speaker 1: do a complete, thorough, comprehensive security assessment on every individual school,

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Speaker 1: and then the threat assessment comes back, how many people

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Speaker 1: do you need retired police military that are armed, you know,

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Speaker 1: in each building, surround the perimeter, make sure there's no

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Speaker 1: that nobody gets in that building that doesn't belong in

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Speaker 1: that building. We all live in New York. There's not

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Speaker 1: a building in New York you can get into Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Gillham that you don't have either an idea to get

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Speaker 1: him for or a pass from somebody that's in the

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Speaker 1: building allowing you up. That's absolutely right now. And you

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Speaker 1: know I watched your show last night. I want to

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Speaker 1: tell her all though, that I appreciate his passion. I

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Speaker 1: really do. And I've seen some fake passion on some

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Speaker 1: other networks. It was just ridiculous. He's the real deal.

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Speaker 1: That's why we love him, and I understand what he's

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Speaker 1: saying that here, here's what I want. Here's what I want.

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Speaker 1: Don't understand is from you know, he's been around the

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Speaker 1: military very enough to get this. So a military base,

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Speaker 1: am a federal building. You can't just go into those

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Speaker 1: buildings with an A R fifteen. In fact, if you

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Speaker 1: try to approach those facilities, you're you're going to probably

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Speaker 1: be shot or you'll be taking down pretty quick if

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Speaker 1: you show an aggressive move. That's because they have had

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Speaker 1: comprehensive threat assessments. They know the most likely locations that

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Speaker 1: people enter an exit. We just had it at the

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Speaker 1: n s A that earlier this week where it worked

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Speaker 1: effectively and ultimately UM Columbine was done with a was

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Speaker 1: not done with the A R fifteen. They had kind

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Speaker 1: of a mock up semi automatic weapon and a shotgun.

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Speaker 1: And so it doesn't really matter the style of gun.

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Speaker 1: A mass killing can be done. It could be done

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Speaker 1: with a knife. What we have to do is start

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Speaker 1: looking at this from as Shaun is saying, as we

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Speaker 1: said on the show yesterday, a security standpoint, but here

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01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 1: realizes the problem with that is that when as soon

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Speaker 1: as politics get involved and law enforcement gets involved, what

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01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:12,680
Speaker 1: they start doing is they go overboard with these assessments

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Speaker 1: and they go into high budget areas when you don't

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Speaker 1: need that. You don't need that at all. And I

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Speaker 1: talked about the book that Sean wrote the forward for that,

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01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 1: I wrote Sheet No More, and it teaches people how

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Speaker 1: to think like an attacker and how to do a

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01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 1: threat assessment on their wife. This can be done by

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01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 1: the school administrators, by the staff, and by the parents,

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Speaker 1: by the local law enforcement. You don't need experts to

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Speaker 1: come in. You just determine this is the type of

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01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:43,879
Speaker 1: attack could that could happen. This is the avenue of approach.

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01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 1: And then you get with the fire marshal. You lock

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01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 1: as many of the doors from the outside as you can,

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01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 1: you won't be able to walk them all. And then

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01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 1: that is where you determine the funnel is that these

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01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 1: bad guys can come in. And that's where you go

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01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 1: and you get these former not just necessarily retire but

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01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 1: former law enforcement veterans that can qualify with a weapon

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01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 1: and come out there and they can sit a post

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01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 1: and then you will know if anybody approaches they will

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01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 1: not be able to get in that building. That is

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01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 1: ultimately the thing that you want to stop. It doesn't

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01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 1: matter what the guy you know. Horal though, let me

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01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 1: let me go to what Jonathan's point is, and I

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Speaker 1: forget the exact words you use last night. You called

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Speaker 1: it a national emergency. I'm not disagreeing. But if we

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01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:31,800
Speaker 1: look at what's happened on television, you know, almost in

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01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 1: the immediate aftermath of this, the same predictable talking points. Look,

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Speaker 1: I'm on radio thirty years, Horal though, I've carried a

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Speaker 1: firearm more than half my adult life, more than half

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Speaker 1: my life. I've been trained in the use of firearms

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Speaker 1: since I'm eleven, and You're never gonna convince me on

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01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 1: the gun side. I'm never gonna convince you either. But

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Speaker 1: if we do a comprehensive security threat assessment of every school,

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01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 1: and we get the manpower that's necessary, we implement the changes.

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Speaker 1: Number one, we minimize the ability of these people to

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Speaker 1: get in. And number two, if it happens, we've got

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Speaker 1: first responders right there on the ground with the capacity

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Speaker 1: to defend. And I think it makes it a whole lot.

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Speaker 1: It changes the entire equation. We have a program, No

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01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:21,640
Speaker 1: Child Left Behind. We should now start a program in

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Speaker 1: the spirit of what you and Jonathan have just been saying,

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Speaker 1: and what the President said and his idol at heartfelt remarks,

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Speaker 1: you have a program where individual school districts can apply

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Speaker 1: to a federal grant to secure their school. Now, some

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Speaker 1: schools have more highly evolved security systems, they have higher budgets.

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Speaker 1: Some schools are you know, they're lucky if they have

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01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 1: textbooks with covers on them. But with this federal grant

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01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:54,600
Speaker 1: money where you're not federalizing the problem particularly, you're not

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Speaker 1: creating a new bureaucracy. But you have a program where

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01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:02,600
Speaker 1: any school can and as Jonathan says, in conjunction with

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01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:04,879
Speaker 1: the fire marshal, because you don't want the next tragedy

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01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 1: to be the kids in science couldn't get out because

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01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 1: the door was chained from the outside to prevent intruders.

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01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,640
Speaker 1: Uh So there is some level of complication, But you

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01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:16,799
Speaker 1: don't need a three hundred page, uh you know, memo

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01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 1: on it. It used common sense. I agree with you.

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01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,600
Speaker 1: Just think of children as our most valuable resource. We

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01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 1: always we always say that politicians always b s about that.

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Speaker 1: Before we get this topic. I just wanted one quickps.

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Speaker 1: You know Bernie Carrot, former police commissioner New York City.

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01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 1: Bernie Carrick wrote an excellent article on a news Max

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01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 1: I think it is today where he posits, is the

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01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 1: FBI too concerned about political investigations that the agents aren't

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01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 1: following up on the kind of tips and clues and

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01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 1: leads that you recited at the top of the segment.

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Speaker 1: We had Bernie on the program yesterday and I thought

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Speaker 1: he was amazing. And all right, we'll take a break here,

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Speaker 1: we'll come back, will continue more with Horaldo and Jonathan Gillum.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget Hannity tonight nineties turn the very latest on

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Speaker 1: this and much more on the Fox News Channel. Right

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Speaker 1: as we continue, Horaldo Rivera and Jonathan Gillimer with us. Look,

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Speaker 1: there's a way to do this. I'll tell you one

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01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 1: way not to do it, though, and that is if

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01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 1: we do it the way that we've been doing it,

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01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 1: same predictable arguments, they go by the wayside, nothing happens.

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Speaker 1: You know, I just think, I know you say that,

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Speaker 1: but I just I don't know why our nation needs

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Speaker 1: Why do we need a million a archiveteam? I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know why, I remember you know, I've been around

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Speaker 1: guns for I love guns. Guns. You know, guns, they

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01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 1: whether you're a hunter or you're you're you know, you

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01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 1: think you're Lawrence of Arabia, whatever it is. But I

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01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:45,720
Speaker 1: bet you many of the people who own a R

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01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 1: fifteen type weapons own them because they think they have

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01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 1: lack of faith in the central government. The black helicopters

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01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 1: coming to take your weapons. The Second Amendment is going

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01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 1: to be a race. A lot of it is paranoia,

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Speaker 1: and I just it's not Do you see how many

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Speaker 1: how would you call a paranoia? How do you call

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Speaker 1: a paranoia? Just look, just hang on, just look at

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Speaker 1: I've owned are are fifteen. You know a lot of

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Speaker 1: times nobody even knows what an ARE fifteen means. You know,

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01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 1: the difference between an a R fifteen and and and

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01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 1: another rifle is often just cosmetic. There's there's it's just

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01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 1: words to most people. And I'm telling you that just

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01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 1: look at the average weekend statistics of carnage in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Are you telling me we've cleaned up New York under

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01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:34,480
Speaker 1: Rudy Julietti, we couldn't clean up Chicago. And if we

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01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 1: we put our minds to it, I believe we could.

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01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:40,479
Speaker 1: And I don't think you're going to solve this argument.

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01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:43,800
Speaker 1: It's not this listen thirty years in radio. I'm not

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01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:46,640
Speaker 1: gonna change anybody's mind, and and I'm not going to

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01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 1: change your mind, and you're not gonna change mine. I'm

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Speaker 1: I believe in the Constitution, the Second Amendment, and because

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01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 1: some people abuse their freedoms should not impact the right

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Speaker 1: of other people's freedoms in my opinion. And it's also

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Speaker 1: a very evil, dangerous world. And I always ask everybody, well,

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Speaker 1: what are you gonna do if somebody breaks into your house.

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01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:05,720
Speaker 1: I know what you're gonna do, Haraldo, You're gonna grab

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01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:07,880
Speaker 1: a gun. I got to grab a shotgun, which I have,

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01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 1: which is far more intimidating, but that the the only thing.

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Speaker 1: He's my lad better you better hope there's there's fewer

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Speaker 1: than two people there, and well it's it's a rossy

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Speaker 1: overland two shot and that's if it takes more than

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01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:23,599
Speaker 1: two shots, and Johnson will tell you then you're screwed anyway.

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01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 1: But I want getting a powerful weapon like that to

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01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:31,799
Speaker 1: be at least as hard as getting a commercial driver's

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Speaker 1: license for a semi truck. If you can, if you

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01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 1: can have the test to get a semi rig license,

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01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 1: then you could have That's how hard I wanted to

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01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 1: be to get a powerful weapon. Well to give to

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Speaker 1: give Jonathan the last word, we gotta move on. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Hodo wants that you want to dry, you want to

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Speaker 1: to gun, you have to be able to drive an

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Speaker 1: a eteen wheeler. Okay, you know, I think listen again,

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Speaker 1: this is like not the world that we live in.

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Speaker 1: We we have to look at reality. We're not going

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01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 1: to get rid of the guns. You can take away

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01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:03,839
Speaker 1: all the legal guns. You can make it much harder.

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01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 1: There will always be bad guys with guns always, and

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01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 1: so it's best if we start asking the right questions,

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01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 1: if we start looking at security, and if we can

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Speaker 1: eliminate the ability of these people to get into the schools,

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Speaker 1: there won't be these mass shootings. And then we can

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Speaker 1: have a discussion later on and you'll see that the

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Speaker 1: reality about these weapons is that there's very few people

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Speaker 1: that have them that are doing bad things. We're just

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Speaker 1: allowing them to get into places where they can do

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Speaker 1: a lot of harm and that needs to stop. All right.

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Speaker 1: I want to thank you both of being with us,

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01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:33,639
Speaker 1: say a hundred nine for one. Shawn is a toll

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Speaker 1: free telephone number. The President's very touching comments, some of

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Speaker 1: the other sounds from yesterday, Shaw and Hannity is on

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Speaker 1: and I said promised earlier, the President gave an address unbelievable,

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Speaker 1: emotional and passionate address at the White House today. We

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Speaker 1: also have witness accounts and Sheriff Israel of Broward County

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Speaker 1: and and a lot of the sounds from this attack.

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Speaker 1: And we put this together for you. This this can

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Speaker 1: be solved. This problem, Help us solve the problem. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, I had to go to victim. He's by

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Speaker 1: the by the entrance to West Glade on the west

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Speaker 1: side of the school for my actions being on the fide.

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Speaker 1: And what I hear is we don't know if we're

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Speaker 1: end the building in front of the thirteen building Building

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Speaker 1: thirteen seventeen can form our comper energy boiage by us.

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Speaker 1: The pain's the pain we have to the zame Moor.

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Speaker 1: Can we get a positive confirmation on Nicholas Cruise being

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Speaker 1: detained uniform one five, one three four confirmed Nicholas Cruises

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Speaker 1: and custody one co. I had a lot of gunshots

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Speaker 1: and then right after when the police like let us

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Speaker 1: out there was dead bodies everywhere, like there's two there,

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Speaker 1: and then when I kept walking down there was more.

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Speaker 1: It was just scary. We were just in class waiting

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Speaker 1: like do notes and talking about our projects. In the

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Speaker 1: fire alarm goes for the second time in the same day,

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Speaker 1: which is weird. So we all just go out into

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Speaker 1: the field like we're supposed to, and then I hear

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Speaker 1: like like gunshots, like you can tell, and then definitely gunshots.

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Speaker 1: Usually whenever firelarm goes off, it's usually just like culinary

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Speaker 1: and accent or nothing. But it was really odd to

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Speaker 1: have two firelarms in one day. Like it was the

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Speaker 1: end of the cool day, and the fire alarm went

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Speaker 1: off and we went to evacuate, you know, I just did.

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Speaker 1: It was a fire drill. And then we got meaning

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Speaker 1: fifteen honey steps up out of the classroom and we

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Speaker 1: were cool that we were on cold read and we

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Speaker 1: ran back inside to the classroom. They got down, crossed

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Speaker 1: down on the floor, and then we moved into the closet.

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Speaker 1: Friend of mine teaches on the front in the freshman building,

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Speaker 1: and she said that as she was leaving that there

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Speaker 1: were bodies on the floor, So I I don't know

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Speaker 1: who it is and I don't know why, but I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is this is the type of situation that we've

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Speaker 1: we just had a training about this, you know, not

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Speaker 1: maybe like six weeks ago, about how to deal up

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Speaker 1: the situation. And if we haven't had that training, it

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Speaker 1: could have been you know a lot words. In fact,

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Speaker 1: a lot of us probably thought that this was with

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Speaker 1: drill that we were supposed to have, you know, this

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01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 1: semester to practice, and it wasn't. It was a thing

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01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:40,800
Speaker 1: I managed to twitter nineteen caes in the closet with me.

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01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 1: How long have you have to be there? Um less

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01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 1: than a minute or less in a minute, then you're

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01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:49,839
Speaker 1: cleared pretty quick. Foll No, we were in the closet

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01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:53,560
Speaker 1: for probably forty minutes, Like we we were locked in

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01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:56,080
Speaker 1: the closet until slog came and got us and took

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01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 1: us somewhere else and then took up the brails. And

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01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 1: now we're you know, standing out on the street and

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01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:04,560
Speaker 1: kids are you know, very finding their parents. Wow, that

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01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 1: certainly paints a picture. So you just heard an interview

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01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:10,519
Speaker 1: with a teacher who said that they just trained for

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01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:14,880
Speaker 1: the six weeks ago when this mass shooting happened. A

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01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 1: few hours ago, She said, she put numerous students in

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01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 1: a in a closet and waited there for forty minutes.

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01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 1: For like dirty minutes, we were just like praying and

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01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 1: crying and and then the police came and we just

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01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 1: got out. I was praying to God, thinking that he

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01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 1: could save us all in that we could make it

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01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 1: a book. I called my parents and it's just all crazy,

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01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 1: and like all you could think about is, oh, my God,

1504
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 1: my family, my friends, everything like pt you never think

1505
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:52,720
Speaker 1: of what happened to you, but it does. Kids were

1506
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 1: freaking out, some kids frow some kids were on their phones.

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01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:58,600
Speaker 1: A lot of were on their phones just trying to

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01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 1: snapchat everything, saying that it was a joke. Again, it

1509
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 1: wasn't there's kids freaking out, students bringing out teachers. It

1510
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 1: was the sucks. I was sitting in class the bottom

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01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 1: floor the freshman building, and all we heard was gunshots

1512
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:13,560
Speaker 1: were fifteen round shoot the ceiling. We all dove to

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01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 1: the left side where the windows were. Our teacher told

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01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 1: us to get to the side closest to the door,

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01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 1: so we all ran behind the desks. The shooter. The

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01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 1: good thing the doors locked. The shooter shot through the door,

1517
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 1: poked in shaw a couple of people next to me.

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01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:27,719
Speaker 1: I was sitting right behind a cabinet in the bullet

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01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:30,759
Speaker 1: pass that you're gotta go next to me. We couldn't

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01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 1: help anybody in the time because we had to stay quiet.

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01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 1: Megan Hill, Megan, thank you for taking the time to

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01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 1: join us. You're a junior, as I understand it. Um,

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01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 1: you're in a room, this door is locked. This guy shooting.

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01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 1: Take it from there. What happened from there? Megan, Um,

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01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:52,720
Speaker 1: as the shooter was in the hallway, I'm not sure

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01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:55,960
Speaker 1: I was the first room. He stopped through the glass window,

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01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:58,559
Speaker 1: did not open our door, and he turned the gun

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01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:01,120
Speaker 1: towards the side of the wall was the students were sitting.

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01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:05,639
Speaker 1: He shot four people. One was dead. There are three

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01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:07,840
Speaker 1: other injured. A girl was shot in her ribs. A

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01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 1: girl um a bullet clipped to the top of her kneecap.

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01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:13,600
Speaker 1: I was told to stay calm. All I wanted to

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01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 1: do was help, but I knew that could everybody's else

1534
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:19,879
Speaker 1: life in jeopardy. After ten minutes, I finally couldn't stand anymore.

1535
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:22,400
Speaker 1: I took off my bean jacket. I threw it over

1536
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 1: the desk and had someone trying to help the girl

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01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 1: front of me. I'm not sure if she was a

1538
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:28,960
Speaker 1: hold that been jacket, but I tried my hardest. Everyone

1539
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 1: was trying to stay calm. I finally got a hold

1540
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 1: of my sister Mackenzie. He was in the second four bathrooms,

1541
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 1: got into a door safely and the teacher they're not

1542
01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:41,599
Speaker 1: allowed to open the door for a policy on code red.

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01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:44,479
Speaker 1: But he luckily been He saved her. She was put

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01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:48,520
Speaker 1: into a room and survived, and it was a very traumatizing.

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01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:50,560
Speaker 1: We were told to leave the building. They told it.

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01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 1: The one out left it, heads down and run straight

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01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 1: to Fine Islands. There are bodies on the floor. The

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01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 1: sun was shot tonight, shot arm, he said. One of

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01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 1: the local area hospitals. I'm being told he's being treated

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01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 1: with non life threatening injuries. Thank god. Um, if you

1551
01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 1: are on a website and you know something and you've

1552
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 1: seen something, you see a person with rifles and weaponry,

1553
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 1: and you see something that's not right, you owe it

1554
01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:22,680
Speaker 1: to your family, you owe it to your community, and

1555
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:24,600
Speaker 1: you owe it to law enforcement to make this a

1556
01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:29,439
Speaker 1: safer nation by calling up someone tonight, call up the FBI,

1557
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 1: call it the browd. Shriff's office and call up someone

1558
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 1: tonight and let them know that you have information or

1559
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 1: something's not right. You could prevent a major tragedy like that,

1560
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:45,479
Speaker 1: like this devastation that happened in Parkland yesterday. A school

1561
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:51,519
Speaker 1: filled with innocent children and caring teachers became the scene

1562
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:59,760
Speaker 1: of terrible violence, hatred, and evil. Around two thirty he

1563
01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 1: has thurday afternoon, police responded to reports of gunfire at

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01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 1: Marjorie Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, a great

1565
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 1: and safe community. They're a shooter who is now in custody,

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01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:27,480
Speaker 1: open fire on defenseless students and teachers. He murdered seventeen

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01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 1: people and badly wounded at least fourteen others. Our entire nation,

1568
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 1: with one heavy heart, is praying for the victims and

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01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:47,760
Speaker 1: their families. To every parent, teacher, and child who was

1570
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 1: hurting so badly, we are here for you, whatever you need,

1571
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 1: whatever we can do to ease your pain. We are

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01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:05,720
Speaker 1: We're all joined together as one American family, and you're

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01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 1: suffering is our burden. Also, no child, no teacher should

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01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:18,839
Speaker 1: ever be in danger in an American school. No parents

1575
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 1: should ever have to fear for their sons and daughters

1576
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 1: when they kissed them goodbye in the morning. Each person

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01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 1: who was stolen from us yesterday had a full life

1578
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:37,840
Speaker 1: ahead of them, a life filled with wondrous beauty and

1579
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:43,799
Speaker 1: unlimited potential and promise. Each one had dreams to pursue,

1580
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:47,559
Speaker 1: love to give, and talents to share with the world.

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01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 1: And each one had a family to whom they meant

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01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 1: everything in the world. Today, we mourn for all of

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01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:05,280
Speaker 1: those who lost their lives. We comfort the grieving and

1584
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:11,719
Speaker 1: the wounded, and we heard for the entire community of Parkland, Florida,

1585
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:16,439
Speaker 1: that is now in shock and pain and searching for

1586
01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:22,480
Speaker 1: answers to law enforce, first responders and teachers who responded

1587
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 1: so bravely in the face of danger. We thank you

1588
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:31,760
Speaker 1: for your courage. Soon after the shooter, I spoke with

1589
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:36,719
Speaker 1: Governor Scott to convey our deepest sympathies to the people

1590
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:42,360
Speaker 1: of Florida and our determination to assist in any way

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01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:47,479
Speaker 1: that we can. I also spoke with Florida Attorney General

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01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:54,599
Speaker 1: Pam Bondi and Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel. I'm making

1593
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:59,480
Speaker 1: plans to visit Parkland to meet with families and local officials,

1594
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 1: and to continue coordinating the federal response. In these moments

1595
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 1: of heartache and darkness, we hold onto God's word in Scripture.

1596
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:16,599
Speaker 1: I have heard your prayer and senior tears. I will

1597
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:21,439
Speaker 1: heal you. We trust in that promise, and we hold

1598
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:25,040
Speaker 1: fast to our fellow Americans and their time of sorrow.

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01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 1: I want to speak now directly to America's children, especially

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01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 1: those who feel lost, alone, confused, or even scared. I

1601
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:39,840
Speaker 1: want you to know that you are never alone, and

1602
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:45,920
Speaker 1: you never will be. You have people who care about you,

1603
01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 1: who love you, and who will do anything at all

1604
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:54,799
Speaker 1: to protect you. If you need help, turned to a teacher,

1605
01:29:55,520 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 1: a family member, a local police officer, or a faith leader.

1606
01:30:02,240 --> 01:30:07,720
Speaker 1: Answer hate with love, answer cruelty with kindness. We must

1607
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:12,519
Speaker 1: also work together to create a culture in our country

1608
01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 1: that embraces the dignity of life, that creates deep and

1609
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:23,360
Speaker 1: meaningful human connections, and that turns classmates and colleagues into

1610
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 1: friends and neighbors. Our administration is working closely with local

1611
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:33,599
Speaker 1: authorities to investigate the shooting and learn everything we can.

1612
01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:37,880
Speaker 1: We are committed to working with state and local leaders

1613
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:43,000
Speaker 1: to help secure our schools and tackle the difficult issue

1614
01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:47,439
Speaker 1: of mental health. Later this month, I will be meeting

1615
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:51,840
Speaker 1: with the nation's governors and attorney generals. We're making our

1616
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:57,680
Speaker 1: schools and our children safer will be our top priority.

1617
01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:01,120
Speaker 1: It is not enough to simple we take actions that

1618
01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:05,519
Speaker 1: make us feel like we are making a difference, we

1619
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:11,600
Speaker 1: must actually make that difference. In times of tragedy. The

1620
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:17,040
Speaker 1: bonds that sustain us are those of family, faith, community,

1621
01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:22,439
Speaker 1: and country. These bonds are stronger than the forces of

1622
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:26,800
Speaker 1: hatred and evil, and these bonds grow even stronger in

1623
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:33,240
Speaker 1: the hours of our greatest need. And so always, but

1624
01:31:33,439 --> 01:31:38,680
Speaker 1: especially today, let us hold our loved ones clothes, let

1625
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:42,479
Speaker 1: us pray for healing and for peace, and let us

1626
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:46,639
Speaker 1: come together as one nation to wipe away the tears

1627
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:54,439
Speaker 1: and strive for a much better tomorrow. Thank you and

1628
01:31:54,560 --> 01:32:00,800
Speaker 1: God bless you all. Thank you very much. You know

1629
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:03,760
Speaker 1: what we're saying here is um You know you hear that.

1630
01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:08,439
Speaker 1: I think this has to be and can be the

1631
01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:11,479
Speaker 1: last time this happens. You know, think of where you

1632
01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:14,559
Speaker 1: were yesterday or whatever time, and you turn on your

1633
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:20,160
Speaker 1: television set and there you see the seemingly endless line

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01:32:20,200 --> 01:32:23,280
Speaker 1: of kids coming out of a school, now, some of

1635
01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:27,240
Speaker 1: them having witnessed, some bodies on the ground, some not

1636
01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:32,920
Speaker 1: alive and and live shattered, and some losing their friends,

1637
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:35,240
Speaker 1: some of just losing people that were in the school

1638
01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:37,920
Speaker 1: shooting in the school. And then you think of the

1639
01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:42,400
Speaker 1: seventeen families now that have spent the day with a

1640
01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:46,120
Speaker 1: corner probably a funeral director, and now have to deal

1641
01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:49,760
Speaker 1: with the loss of a child, and you think of

1642
01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:55,400
Speaker 1: the you know, how do we stop that without the predictable,

1643
01:32:56,680 --> 01:33:00,679
Speaker 1: same old talking points debate to get nothing done. Anyway,

1644
01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:02,840
Speaker 1: we'll have more on this tonight. We hope you'll join us.

1645
01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:05,559
Speaker 1: Full coverage of all of this, the latest, nine eastern

1646
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:08,320
Speaker 1: on Hannity on the Fox News Channel. All right, that's

1647
01:33:08,360 --> 01:33:10,679
Speaker 1: gonna wrap things up at today. We'll have the latest

1648
01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:15,640
Speaker 1: on the shooting that took place yesterday, seventeen dead, unbelievable,

1649
01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:18,280
Speaker 1: and of course we'll have the very latest on memo gate,

1650
01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:21,599
Speaker 1: visor gate and everything else. Sarah Carter. Much more full

1651
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:23,920
Speaker 1: coverage tonight. We hope you'll join us a d v R.

1652
01:33:23,960 --> 01:33:27,200
Speaker 1: Hannity nine Eastern on the Fox News Channel. Many prayers

1653
01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:30,280
Speaker 1: to the community down in Florida. Our thoughts and prayers

1654
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:33,360
Speaker 1: with Parkland and all these families and what they're going through.

1655
01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:36,120
Speaker 1: It's so tough of them, Thanks for being with us,

1656
01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:37,320
Speaker 1: See you tonight. Back here tomorrow