Speaker 1: Welcome to Pod Meets Tworld, the podcast that once chronicled
Speaker 1: two guys who had never seen Dancing with the Stars,
Speaker 1: but watched a season and somehow walked away experts. From there,
Speaker 1: we've entered into Traders, a show I'd never seen, but
Speaker 1: Will swore he could win.
Speaker 2: And now we turn.
Speaker 1: To Survivor season fifty, the big One. This time the
Speaker 1: roles are reversed. Will has seen exactly one season, the
Speaker 1: first one. Meanwhile, I've watched for years. We are Wilfred Ell,
Speaker 1: who prefers his wilderness with room service, and Ryder Strong,
Speaker 1: who will hike any mountain but hates the beach. Two
Speaker 1: best friends, one devoted to the comforts of civilization, one
Speaker 1: who would never leave the woods if he could. Both
Speaker 1: reality competition scholars join us as we dive into alliances,
Speaker 1: blind sides, fire making, sand related misery, and twenty five
Speaker 1: years of television history culminating in a single massive season.
Speaker 2: This is Pod Meets Twirled Seeking immunity.
Speaker 1: What what? What?
Speaker 2: What was your impression of the Morning Zoo show that.
Speaker 3: We would starting dingle in the dank.
Speaker 2: It's ding in the morning.
Speaker 1: We're gonna crank call puppets today. Yeah, I mean, maybe
Speaker 1: we should just give up our Survivor recaps and just
Speaker 1: go straight Morning Zoo radio show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I feel like we need like three more people,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, yeah, and we need a soundboard.
Speaker 1: And then like we have somebody that we always annoy
Speaker 1: by calling, like your mom, you know, Criticle Will's mom
Speaker 1: for her opinion, what she gotta say about this Will?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got it, and oh I love it. Which
Speaker 3: one's dingle and which one's the dank is the question.
Speaker 3: We'll figure, we'll work.
Speaker 2: We'll work shopping later. It's got to be your dingle
Speaker 2: dingle And with me coming into you with Morning Wood.
Speaker 1: Well, I know we annoyed a lot of our listeners
Speaker 1: last week by our severe lack of Survivor knowledge.
Speaker 2: That is the point of the show.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna remind you I have watched some Survivor.
Speaker 1: I obviously haven't watched enough.
Speaker 3: Did people not like it?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Just because yeah, I get.
Speaker 1: It, Like, I'm sure if you actually keep up with
Speaker 1: Survivor history and these contestants in particular, but we I'm yeah,
Speaker 1: I've liked Survivor, but I've been a very casual watcher.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't keep track of all the rule changes,
Speaker 1: it turns out that the New Era is actually just
Speaker 1: that it's a shorter a shorter period of time there
Speaker 1: on the island, Like they used to stay longer and
Speaker 1: the game was slower to start, so like you didn't form,
Speaker 1: like people just didn't play as aggressively. But in the
Speaker 1: New Era, the game got condensed and there's just it's
Speaker 1: a quicker pace.
Speaker 2: So I'd like, I did read.
Speaker 3: A couple of things where people said you were spot on
Speaker 3: about certain things though, like the fact that apparently in
Speaker 3: the early seasons they really concentrated on building the shelters
Speaker 3: and getting food and the actual survivor aspect, right, this
Speaker 3: is nothing to do with that, No, Well, in so.
Speaker 1: They cut into a little bit about Raizo Bee and
Speaker 1: lazy Yah, right, so they are doing stuff, they're just
Speaker 1: not like editing my own you know, like yeah, they're
Speaker 1: only editing those moments in if they play into the
Speaker 1: social game strategy, right, Like they're not including because I
Speaker 1: think people just got bored of like every season being
Speaker 1: about like.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm so hungry or I'm so cold.
Speaker 1: But I also think maybe people stopped complaining because they
Speaker 1: kind of knew what they were getting into. So that's
Speaker 1: the survival aspect is so low priority nowadays.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. I mean I'm not fully in yet.
Speaker 1: I'll be telling you because you prefer like Alan, where
Speaker 1: it's really about what they're actually doing.
Speaker 2: Make it what it's about.
Speaker 3: If it's called survivor, then give them no food, give
Speaker 3: them no fire, and let them win stuff or whatever
Speaker 3: it's going to be, and then make it about we've
Speaker 3: got to build a shelter. We've got to work together
Speaker 3: as kind it's almost Lord of Flies. We've got to
Speaker 3: work together as a community. We've got to do this
Speaker 3: kind of stuff. But this is it seriously seems to
Speaker 3: me like a bunch of people sitting around going who
Speaker 3: should we vote off?
Speaker 2: Let's vote her off? No, I don't want to vote
Speaker 2: her off. Okay, let's vote somebody else off.
Speaker 3: Well, now we've got to go and do a challenge, okay,
Speaker 3: And and the whole and I'm kind of going.
Speaker 2: Like, is this it is?
Speaker 3: This?
Speaker 2: Is this all they do? Yeah, it's it's more like
Speaker 2: you know, I think.
Speaker 1: If you if you hear Jeff Probes especially talk about it,
Speaker 1: it's he's always cause it a social experiment, right.
Speaker 2: And that is.
Speaker 1: It's it's more about like I think, yeah, they just
Speaker 1: they've decided to play into the drama and the interpersonal
Speaker 1: stuff as the strategy, you know, as the game.
Speaker 2: It's it's basically a game show with the with the
Speaker 2: backdrop of the island.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the game show the game is very row physically,
Speaker 1: you know, like these challenges are no joke, you know, like.
Speaker 3: I don't understand how people are not getting hurt.
Speaker 2: Basically every episode.
Speaker 3: I know, because they do a lot of stuff where
Speaker 3: you're jumping and landing in the water the wrong way
Speaker 3: of it, and a lot of these people are not
Speaker 3: in their twenties.
Speaker 2: I mean, the people that like Cob Coby this is.
Speaker 1: You know, my wife has talked about doing Survivor, and
Speaker 1: my son has been pushing her to do it, and
Speaker 1: she's always said, like she would kill at the strategy,
Speaker 1: like she loves the social strategies. She would be great
Speaker 1: at all and she would she would be genuinely because
Speaker 1: she's so good at socializing, Like she's good at like
Speaker 1: being friendly to people and getting them on her side.
Speaker 1: But she's also can be machiavellian in the best way.
Speaker 1: But her biggest thing is the physical challenges and she's
Speaker 1: in good shape, she's just not in that kind of
Speaker 1: shape and she doesn't love like working out. You know,
Speaker 1: you have to like be like a person willing to
Speaker 1: really push, you said to yourself.
Speaker 3: Though they've changed it to where like there's some some
Speaker 3: people that are not on the island that aren't in
Speaker 3: the greatest of shape, so there are more kind of
Speaker 3: like positions for those. Yeah, exactly like it, like the
Speaker 3: whole team needs to do this, so she could take
Speaker 3: and she.
Speaker 1: She just doesn't want to, and she's like having to
Speaker 1: jump and swim and climb and do all that.
Speaker 2: She's like, she's just not this person. I think that
Speaker 2: would be the fun. I couldn't do whatever. I'm such
Speaker 2: a whimp, you know.
Speaker 1: Like I just like I when I go into the woods,
Speaker 1: I'm usually backpacking, like walking very little, you know. I'm
Speaker 1: the whole experience for me is just the the the
Speaker 1: nature stuff. It's not pushing myself physically. Like I'm going
Speaker 1: into the woods this weekend with a group of friends
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm really nervous because one of my friends
Speaker 1: is on a big physical fitness kick right now, so
Speaker 1: he's like we're gonna be mountain biking this day. Then
Speaker 1: we're gonna be surfing in the morning, and then we're
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, okay, I'll be I'll take care
Speaker 1: of the meals and I'm just trying to like make
Speaker 1: really lavish meals with lots of alcohol. So we're too
Speaker 1: hung over to do half of his ex my whole
Speaker 1: plan smart now, No, I'm just I'm gonna try. But
Speaker 1: you know, I'm like, can we do e mountain biking?
Speaker 1: Like we got electric mountain bikes and we can, so
Speaker 1: we will.
Speaker 2: Good. Where are you going near Santa Cruz? Okay?
Speaker 3: Nice?
Speaker 2: Nice? So out in the rare inviting me. I am
Speaker 2: busy this weekend and can't go with you. Oh you would?
Speaker 3: You?
Speaker 2: Would you really come into the woods? It's not a chance,
Speaker 2: exactly a chance.
Speaker 3: I'll do the drinking part, but I can do that here.
Speaker 1: You could just hang out at the house and be
Speaker 1: at the cabin when we come back after or.
Speaker 3: Are camping if there's if you don't have every streaming
Speaker 3: service camping.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, So to be clear, we're gonna know
Speaker 1: some survivor stuff. I cannot keep up with these characters.
Speaker 1: I've definitely seen a lot of the seasons that these
Speaker 1: people played in. I don't have the memory to keep
Speaker 1: track of them anymore. And the problem is I never
Speaker 1: watched any season live, Like I never.
Speaker 2: Actually that's not true.
Speaker 1: There was there was one period where I was in
Speaker 1: a Survivor league, like a fantasy football league for Survivor
Speaker 1: and yeah, and it was, but it was all email based.
Speaker 1: We never met in person. It was it was like
Speaker 1: a friend of a friend one when they found out
Speaker 1: that I was into Survivor, They're.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, you go to join so and so's league.
Speaker 1: And he ran very like had a whole point system.
Speaker 1: So there were maybe like twenty of us and I
Speaker 1: never did very well.
Speaker 2: But the whole point was that you picked.
Speaker 1: Your your person, you know, your team the first episodes.
Speaker 2: You can only after the first episode.
Speaker 1: You had to pick three people that you thought we're
Speaker 1: going to go to the end or at least one
Speaker 1: of them would you know, win, And then there was
Speaker 1: a point system based on if that person, if you're
Speaker 1: one of your teammates, got eliminated, you lost, like if
Speaker 1: they if they did well on an immunity challenge, you
Speaker 1: got points, you know, so you would get points based
Speaker 1: on like the different aspects of the game.
Speaker 2: So those like three seasons I watched live.
Speaker 1: Otherwise everything has been completely out of order, me and
Speaker 1: my wife and my son just being like we haven't
Speaker 1: seen this season. We just click on it. So it's
Speaker 1: very hard to like keep together in my hand.
Speaker 3: I'm hoping most of our listeners are dear, dear listeners,
Speaker 3: as Danielle would say, understand that when we say experts,
Speaker 3: we're joking. What we really mean is we have no
Speaker 3: idea what we were, And hopefully they understand the correlation between
Speaker 3: the other than dancing and and Traders, of which we
Speaker 3: are actual experts survivor. We're experts in that you've watched
Speaker 3: the show and I've heard of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So I think all right, so let's get
Speaker 1: into this episode two. You overall thoughts, you are still
Speaker 1: you're not on board with the show. You're not okay,
Speaker 1: It's okay again.
Speaker 3: If they're going to be people backstabbing and backbiting, which
Speaker 3: is what they did in Traders, do it with.
Speaker 2: Fabulous costumes in a castle.
Speaker 3: Wow, you know, I will say I very much like
Speaker 3: the challenges, yeah, because I think those are really cool.
Speaker 3: I think they're physical, but man, it really is also
Speaker 3: showing you how it's like you need a big strong
Speaker 3: person guy or girl on your team because when they're
Speaker 3: luging the snake or doing that stuff, that's not for
Speaker 3: the faint of heart.
Speaker 2: This isn't super easy stuff.
Speaker 3: So it's this isn't running through the woods trying to
Speaker 3: lay Hey, there's gonna be bags of gold somewhere, like Traders.
Speaker 2: This is like, that's why I just pale in comparison
Speaker 2: to the Yah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so, and I think Traders needs that that needs
Speaker 3: to be upgraded, and then the rest of the kind
Speaker 3: of show of survivor a little bit and easy, Like
Speaker 3: I'm wondering if I would have liked the earlier seasons
Speaker 3: a little better.
Speaker 2: I think so.
Speaker 1: I think you're just yeah, I think you kind of
Speaker 1: had this idea in your mind about like that Lord
Speaker 1: of the Flies aspect, which just yeah.
Speaker 3: It's not it's it's people kind of walking around and
Speaker 3: just going.
Speaker 2: Like we should be it.
Speaker 1: I'm really interested to see how you feel though, because
Speaker 1: you know, I think the while the pageantry of Traders
Speaker 1: is like super fun, it also it also removes an
Speaker 1: emotional element, you know, of the experience, like it's where's
Speaker 1: this like by the end of the season, these people
Speaker 1: have really been through it.
Speaker 2: I mean you can.
Speaker 1: I mean we can even talk about in our recap
Speaker 1: right now, because you know the way that Genevieve is
Speaker 1: just crying about Kyle, you know, and she says it,
Speaker 1: She's like, it seems ridiculous that I'm crying about somebody
Speaker 1: I just barely knew. But Survivor is so intense emotionally
Speaker 1: and physically that they bond and they feel this like
Speaker 1: you know, real connection with each other or hatred of
Speaker 1: each other.
Speaker 2: Fifth that's the case.
Speaker 1: And so I think it's I think there's a level
Speaker 1: of intensity to just Survivor that I you know, in
Speaker 1: the in the sort of parlor game like aspect, like
Speaker 1: the fun of Traders was just like okay, yeah whatever,
Speaker 1: like really actually even staying in this castle right Like,
Speaker 1: So I don't know for me, I kind of like,
Speaker 1: has there ever been like a fistfight on Survivor?
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: Actually the only time I remember there was one challenge
Speaker 1: and I think they only did it once, where they
Speaker 1: basically created a game that was sort of like basketball
Speaker 1: in the water where they just you know, one person
Speaker 1: had to like carry a ball to a.
Speaker 2: Net, you know, a net and sink it, and there was.
Speaker 1: No other real rules, and it got so intense because
Speaker 1: people were literally like trying to drown one another, you know,
Speaker 1: like they were.
Speaker 2: Like there was like no like it was such physical contact.
Speaker 1: It basically became like ultimate fighter and it was like
Speaker 1: hold on, you know, and I think they had they
Speaker 1: knew that they couldn't do it like it it's just
Speaker 1: too dangerous. And and these people cared so much that
Speaker 1: it did. It basically became like a fistfight or you know,
Speaker 1: like I'm just going to take you out. And that
Speaker 1: was like I think they clearly realized like no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: we can't. Like that has to be more sort of teamwork.
Speaker 1: And then when the individual challenges are much more just
Speaker 1: like can you hold onto a pole? Like that's my favorite.
Speaker 1: There's one that says literally it's a like a telephone
Speaker 1: pole and they just you just there's like little slots
Speaker 1: on it, like little ridges, and just hold on. You
Speaker 1: just hold on, And the whole thing is like how
Speaker 1: do you hold on? And like some people like hug it,
Speaker 1: some people are like holding them by the fingertips and
Speaker 1: like that was one that like Ozzie did incredibly well,
Speaker 1: like he just was comfortable just sitting up there.
Speaker 2: And you just watch these people.
Speaker 1: But it's so funny because everyone will be like fine, fine, fine, fine,
Speaker 1: and then like at minute forty, everybody just falls apart.
Speaker 1: It's like party, Yes, dude, they stayed up there for
Speaker 1: like over a half an hour, no joke, just holding
Speaker 1: onto a pole.
Speaker 2: That's the individual challenges to get.
Speaker 1: Really, it's it's so impressive what these people do and
Speaker 1: what they put themselves through.
Speaker 2: They really pushed them.
Speaker 3: So I started with a new personal trainer and sometimes
Speaker 3: so go all right, just hold up your body weight,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, thirty seconds in, I'm like there we go. Oh.
Speaker 2: I think about like how I used to be able
Speaker 2: to just do pull ups. Have you tried to pull up?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, They're insane. They're it's insane. Like I don't think
Speaker 3: I could do one anymore.
Speaker 1: I used to be able to do like twelve, like
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, teenager, just be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know pull ups.
Speaker 2: Now, I'm like, are you kidding me? It's insane? Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's insane. All right.
Speaker 1: So yeah, the episode begins with Kyle, you know, getting
Speaker 1: pulled on day four and Genevieve crying, and then Q,
Speaker 1: you know, talks about the fact that there his whole
Speaker 1: plan is kind of wrecked because he's lost his vote.
Speaker 2: Now Kyle, who is part of his alliance, is out Kobe.
Speaker 1: Kobe couldn't vote. Yeah, Colby can't vote because he's lost,
Speaker 1: can't vote right, and Q can't vote right, and so
Speaker 1: you can't vote.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're really.
Speaker 1: Not much sure of power alliance anymore. But anyway, they
Speaker 1: decide to bring Rizzo in, which is interesting, Like Rizzo's
Speaker 1: comes so, you know, and he admits he's like I
Speaker 1: came into hyper and now I had to tone myself down.
Speaker 1: I think it's working, and it is like Colby's on
Speaker 1: his side, which is super interesting.
Speaker 2: But this isn't new.
Speaker 3: This is also a generational thing because I'm guessing this
Speaker 3: younger generation where they're like none of them are collecting sticks,
Speaker 3: none of them are doing anything. They're just sitting around.
Speaker 3: I bet you they wouldn't have lasted on the original
Speaker 3: Survivor never That's what I mean. That's what I mean.
Speaker 3: It's like, so you can just sit there and not
Speaker 3: do anything, and it's just about like I got a
Speaker 3: social game. And then I got to vote somebody off
Speaker 3: and maybe I got to carry some stuff and that's
Speaker 3: kind of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's more surviving the social aspect than it
Speaker 3: is see it. To me, it should be like an
Speaker 3: actual survivor thing at some point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm curious how you feel it by the end, though,
Speaker 2: like do you go through?
Speaker 1: Like I think what ended up happening was that the
Speaker 1: survivor stuff overtook the show to a degree that it
Speaker 1: wasn't even fun to watch anymore. It was like watching
Speaker 1: people literally starve to death and be tortured alone and
Speaker 1: it was like, I you know, like that's a lot,
Speaker 1: it's heavy.
Speaker 2: That's alone.
Speaker 3: That's yeah, that's what it is. It's like it's more
Speaker 3: endurance than it is social.
Speaker 1: And I think there's a reason Alone is on a
Speaker 1: much smaller network. Yeah, you know, like Survivors like one
Speaker 1: of the biggest hit shows of all time. And I
Speaker 1: think it's because they figuregured out that like being able
Speaker 1: to project and put yourself in there.
Speaker 3: That exactly you know, which you can you can watch
Speaker 3: it from your couch and go like I might be
Speaker 3: able to do this, you might be able to do this,
Speaker 3: and that is that's important in gaining an audience. It
Speaker 3: truly is.
Speaker 2: Over at Cela. There's his hysterical moment with Joan Christian
Speaker 2: at the fire.
Speaker 3: Oh and I knew this, did you. I saw his
Speaker 3: face the second I thought he was.
Speaker 2: Going to go throw up.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, no, this is and I was
Speaker 1: worried because of course, if you start throwing up, like
Speaker 1: if you know, that could be like dehydration.
Speaker 2: I mean, even booping your pants is dehydration. But he
Speaker 2: just himself. I was like, I know that. Look he
Speaker 2: just shit himself. And he's like, are you okay? He's like,
Speaker 2: I might be. I just need I need a second.
Speaker 2: And then they blur his pants a blur hish like yeah.
Speaker 1: And Alex was watching. She's like, that's why I won't
Speaker 1: go and survivor because that would be me. That's what
Speaker 1: would happen to me. And I couldn't live with myself.
Speaker 1: And I just love that He finally just starts the camery.
Speaker 1: He's like, my life is going to divorce me.
Speaker 3: You're not gonna want to see this, I promise you.
Speaker 2: I can't want to see this. I mean it sucks.
Speaker 2: I do love him, though, I really like a lot
Speaker 2: of people this.
Speaker 1: Season, I genuinely enjoy these people, Like even Rizzo for
Speaker 1: all of his like sort of self congratulatory and.
Speaker 2: His laziness, I kind of find him entertaining. Tobody.
Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody makes it a little bad about this being
Speaker 3: the first season I've watched in season one because I
Speaker 3: feel like part of this season, the character of the
Speaker 3: show this season is the personalities coming in that you've
Speaker 3: already watched doing this and the relationship they have to
Speaker 3: one another, and so not knowing that, I feel like
Speaker 3: I'm at a bit of a disadvantage. I was like
Speaker 3: trying to explain to Sue last night what you were saying,
Speaker 3: where I was like, Okay, so that's Coach and I
Speaker 3: thought we liked him, but we don't.
Speaker 2: He's apparently kind of a villain.
Speaker 3: And that's c who we thought was the drummer from
Speaker 3: from Toto, but it turns out he's actually a really
Speaker 3: good player who keeps everybody alive. So it's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: but so not knowing like any other year where it's
Speaker 3: just a whole bunch of randoms, it's just kind of
Speaker 3: like art will learn the game, but this was specifically
Speaker 3: like ooh, what happened on their.
Speaker 1: Like they talk about how much baggage they're coming in with,
Speaker 1: and it's like, yeah, so it's a very normally at
Speaker 1: this point in the game, you're just still getting to
Speaker 1: know people, and they're getting to know each other, and
Speaker 1: there's this real sense of like can I trust this person?
Speaker 2: Can I not?
Speaker 1: This is the game They almost have already decided whether
Speaker 1: they can trust each other or not, and.
Speaker 2: So they just jump right into playing. That's the thing.
Speaker 3: So there's no explanation kind of no, hey, I've never
Speaker 3: seen that. This season is not built for somebody who's
Speaker 3: never watched Survivor. No, and so it is one of
Speaker 3: those things where it's kind of like I'm I'm picking
Speaker 3: it up and I'm getting there, but you know you,
Speaker 3: I wish I kind of knew because they get in,
Speaker 3: they know how they're going to play, and there it's
Speaker 3: like they're pros.
Speaker 2: They've started to play.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's the same thing with what you said with Traders,
Speaker 3: where you're like, I want to watch one where they're
Speaker 3: not celebrities and aren't so polished and all that kind
Speaker 3: of stuff.
Speaker 2: It's that same kind of vibe with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think I think you would enjoy the
Speaker 1: discovery of other seasons a lot, you know, and and
Speaker 1: also when they do the sort of social experiments that
Speaker 1: they've done, like remember I told you they divide them
Speaker 1: by generation or by race, or there was one season
Speaker 1: where they divided them by class, like literally they had
Speaker 1: a blue collar team, working class team, and then like
Speaker 1: you know, a white collar. Yeah, they they did, like
Speaker 1: and it was so weird, you know, for these people
Speaker 1: to have to confront like which category they had been
Speaker 1: put in based on their basically their job, like if
Speaker 1: they were a lawyer or if they were a plumber,
Speaker 1: different teams, you know, it was really interesting. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: so we got our first reward challenge, which is you know,
Speaker 1: so sometimes there's immunity challenges and then there's just reward
Speaker 1: challenges in this.
Speaker 2: Okay, never showed you what the reward was.
Speaker 3: Well, they said it it's a tarp. Yeah, they get like,
Speaker 3: oh I thought he just said it was an upgrade.
Speaker 3: You're getting a camp upgrade. But he did just say
Speaker 3: what it was. Did they say tarp?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he says it.
Speaker 1: He says, Okay, it's like it's like a big tarp.
Speaker 1: I think like blankets and pillows, Like, oh, maybe I
Speaker 1: must have.
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah that I think that's one team. Remember if you
Speaker 1: know at the end of the episode they have a hammock.
Speaker 1: I think that's like, that's part of the kits.
Speaker 3: You missed it too, because we were both like where
Speaker 3: they get hammocks?
Speaker 1: Like, okay, so there's there, there's two degrees. There's like
Speaker 1: the you know, the luxury and then the less version.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's having a tarp, which becomes a big
Speaker 1: deal for you know when it's rained.
Speaker 3: Hell yes, absolutely, and hammocks would be huge because you're
Speaker 3: not lying on the ground the whole time, like right,
Speaker 3: being being above the nastiness and the sand and all
Speaker 3: that stuff would feel like you were in a water.
Speaker 2: Bed at that. Oh my god. Yeah alaxation. Yeah, be amazing.
Speaker 1: So everyone finds out that Jenna was the one voted
Speaker 1: out and Kyle was pulled from the game.
Speaker 3: And way more They were way more upset about Kyle
Speaker 3: being pulled than Jenna being voted out.
Speaker 2: You notice that so true. So everyone was like, oh,
Speaker 2: Jenna's gone. Then they were like Kyle, I know, Well,
Speaker 2: it turns out Camilla played.
Speaker 1: They were Kyle and Camilla were like total allies in
Speaker 1: season forty eight, so she really like starts, you know,
Speaker 1: which is true because it's so interesting when you have
Speaker 1: those kinds of historical alliances in a game, like you know,
Speaker 1: or this early in the game. That's really part of
Speaker 1: your plan is that eventually you might end up on
Speaker 1: the same tribe together. So you really hope that like
Speaker 1: somebody you're aligned with is on another tribe working their
Speaker 1: own game, and then you can merge your alliances when
Speaker 1: the tribes merged.
Speaker 2: So you can see Camilla's you know, really bummed and understand.
Speaker 3: I also think there's a psychological aspect to it as well,
Speaker 3: where it's okay, there's things I can do to kind
Speaker 3: of stave off the possibility of being voted off of
Speaker 3: the island. I can win challenges, I can do whatever.
Speaker 3: Injuries can hit us anytime. Yeah, And it's like that
Speaker 3: could have been me so easily, And it's the worst
Speaker 3: way to go out because he's been there for three
Speaker 3: days at that point, and he did something where he
Speaker 3: needed surgery like two days later, so it was it
Speaker 3: was a significant injury. And I think there's something psychological
Speaker 3: to that as.
Speaker 1: Well, totally, And this is you know, going back to
Speaker 1: your point about this season too.
Speaker 2: This season is a lot of older.
Speaker 1: People, Yeah, because of the returning champions and they've been around
Speaker 1: for I mean, you know, Jenna was twenty years ago
Speaker 1: or whatever, twenty five years ago, so like that, because
Speaker 1: usually the game is mostly populated by like twenty somethings
Speaker 1: and of course injuries people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh that's like that.
Speaker 1: It's predominantly you like, there's always like a couple older people,
Speaker 1: like maybe in their forties and fifties, but like this
Speaker 1: seems like because you know, because they're bringing people back,
Speaker 1: it's like a majority. So even Ozzy, who's like, you know,
Speaker 1: physically in like great shape, he talks about how he
Speaker 1: was like backspastmating after the supplies challenge, which then opens
Speaker 1: the door for Coach to uh set the record straight.
Speaker 1: Did he Well, I don't understand, Like it's city weird.
Speaker 2: That's the thing.
Speaker 1: It's like he describes exactly what he did, which is
Speaker 1: pretty much as far as I can know, what is
Speaker 1: how Ozzi represented it.
Speaker 2: Too, right, Yeah, yeah, right in life.
Speaker 1: So it's really just that Coach assumed Ozzie was talking
Speaker 1: shit about him, when actually Ozzie just described it exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: as it happened, but for some reason, Coach saw that
Speaker 1: as a dent to his you know, his honor, yeah,
Speaker 1: which is hysterical because it's like, dude, the only dent
Speaker 1: you did it like you did the thing, which is
Speaker 1: why I love Ozzie's response. It's like, I think he's
Speaker 1: going to play the game exactly how he has.
Speaker 3: Always an like, I wish I knew then their relationship
Speaker 3: because I know that because everyone was like.
Speaker 2: Oh, they're cutting to people going like oh, and.
Speaker 3: I was like what what's Oh what what happened? So, yeah,
Speaker 3: they have a history.
Speaker 1: The thing about Coach, and I think what you know,
Speaker 1: I find annoying ultimately is not so much like it's
Speaker 1: not so much the way he plays, it's the way
Speaker 1: he talks about himself, the way he plays like he
Speaker 1: presents it as if he's this like honorable and lightened. Yes,
Speaker 1: he's like the White Knight, and it's like, you're not, dude,
Speaker 1: You're you're a manipulative.
Speaker 2: Selfish, you know player, just like you.
Speaker 1: Know, like you listen to the way that Devn's you know,
Speaker 1: Rick Devans talks about, yeah, playing the game and it's
Speaker 1: a realistic way to play, right, and like you may
Speaker 1: not always agree with it, but it is realistic to
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to lie.
Speaker 2: At some point to somebody's face. You're gonna have to
Speaker 2: say that.
Speaker 3: People were like, oh, wow, you lied on survivor Oh,
Speaker 3: what are the chances of that? It's like part of
Speaker 3: the game and so right, And I think Coach has
Speaker 3: a tendency to minimize his own manipulation and make it
Speaker 3: seem like he's an honorable player and that he's this
Speaker 3: sort of and that's just it's douche twat behavior. Yes,
Speaker 3: tp GtC, DTV, DTV is what it is.
Speaker 2: Yes, DTV.
Speaker 1: All right, so we've after this you know, weird moment
Speaker 1: where Coach decides to like toot his own horn and
Speaker 1: say exactly what everyone kind of already knew. They get
Speaker 1: into this challenge, which is opens with like one of
Speaker 1: my favorite things like this smash this, Like doesn't it
Speaker 1: look so satisfying? Does?
Speaker 3: And you smash it then you land in the water afterwards, yes,
Speaker 3: oh yeah.
Speaker 1: And it was like it was just like so much
Speaker 1: fun until I saw Aubrey miss it and then I
Speaker 1: was like that would be me, and I must feel
Speaker 1: like such shit.
Speaker 2: He was the only one who's sportsball.
Speaker 3: He was also the only one who did this is where.
Speaker 4: We need the Oh no, yeah, it's also but the
Speaker 4: thing they plan these things really well, because I was thinking,
Speaker 4: if you do miss it like she did, all your
Speaker 4: momentums going forward and you are full.
Speaker 3: Belly flop yep, which is exactly what happened to her.
Speaker 1: So I was in an acting class in Berkeley when
Speaker 1: I was a teenager like Wright, right when Boy Meets
Speaker 1: World started, and then I would go back and visit
Speaker 1: every once.
Speaker 2: In a while.
Speaker 1: And there was a guy in that class who was
Speaker 1: one of His name is Miles, and he was hysterical
Speaker 1: and a very good improviser, and he reached out to
Speaker 1: me through Facebook, I want to say, in two thousand.
Speaker 2: And eight or nine whenever, the last time I was.
Speaker 1: On Facebook, and he was working with a company. He
Speaker 1: had a company where they designed the games for some
Speaker 1: cool challenges.
Speaker 2: I know that would be fun. I want to reach
Speaker 2: out to him.
Speaker 1: I want to try and find him because I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure I remember his last name where I can figure
Speaker 1: it out and if he's still doing that, or even
Speaker 1: if not, we should have him on to just talk
Speaker 1: about it, because.
Speaker 2: How cool would that be?
Speaker 1: As a job like to just you get your friends
Speaker 1: together and you have to and you know, and obviously
Speaker 1: they have to run it and figure out, like, you know,
Speaker 1: how to dial in the difficulty, because like it seems
Speaker 1: pretty fair, right, Like yes, the way that these challenges
Speaker 1: are worked out, You're like, yeah, like even if you
Speaker 1: suck at one aspect of it, you can make it
Speaker 1: up with another.
Speaker 2: Like they do such a good job with these challenges.
Speaker 3: I just well, when you got I mean, the second
Speaker 3: challenge is the perfect example when you go, you know,
Speaker 3: which we'll get to. But when you go from having
Speaker 3: to carry something really heavy hue then having to be
Speaker 3: delicate with these strings to do something else, it's too
Speaker 3: completely different skill sets. So yeah, it's I think they
Speaker 3: do their keeping it fair.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: So they got to smash the tiles to get the
Speaker 1: key and walk across this like balance being without falling,
Speaker 1: and then uh into the water right dive back into
Speaker 1: the water to like release the rings square hikes, and
Speaker 1: they got to go deep.
Speaker 2: You see how deep they have to go? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And dude, there have been people on previous seasons
Speaker 1: who like aren't great swimmers, and I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, why are you doing well? That's what I was thinking.
Speaker 3: I was thinking to myself, I'm like, I wear one
Speaker 3: glass contact lens. I cannot open my eyes underwater or
Speaker 3: it's sucked out of my eye.
Speaker 2: Have done him? Yeah, so what do I do?
Speaker 1: I've wondered about that, like with the with the context thing,
Speaker 1: like I'm not because there was one season where they
Speaker 1: actually they eliminated a guy if I'm remembering quickly, because
Speaker 1: he had decided to go off his antidepressants and they.
Speaker 2: Were like, that's too big of a risk for us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can see that. Yeah, And they talk about
Speaker 3: that like in the in the in the like as
Speaker 3: in the Tribal Council, it's like, we're getting rid of
Speaker 3: you because you went off of your men.
Speaker 2: The show got rid of him.
Speaker 1: Oh, the show came in and said, hey, we've because
Speaker 1: he had updated his medical like you know it's intake
Speaker 1: or whatever, and said, no, I decided to go off
Speaker 1: my medication the course that I'm on this, And they
Speaker 1: were like, that's kind of too big of a deal
Speaker 1: because if you become depressed or suicidal or like if
Speaker 1: they're your brain chemistry is not what you've represented it as, Like,
Speaker 1: that's a risk for us. As a hell show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like super interesting and so I'm always so. But what
Speaker 1: that revealed to me is like the questions of like, yeah,
Speaker 1: like because you see some people wearing glasses, right, I'm like,
Speaker 1: could you wear contacts? Like I have monthly contacts, but
Speaker 1: I still have to take them out every night. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so I would have to just wear glass.
Speaker 3: And then it's like I can't wear glasses because I
Speaker 3: have it's a medical reason that I have my one
Speaker 3: eye and like glass eye, as you and Daniel like
Speaker 3: to point out.
Speaker 2: So it's like that's what I thought about.
Speaker 3: It's like, well, I couldn't be the one to dive
Speaker 3: under the water to get something because I can't see underwater.
Speaker 1: And I wonder, like, you know, one of my good
Speaker 1: friends has diabetes and he's like super physical, right, you
Speaker 1: know he needs an injection every day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so could he do survivor would they allow him to?
Speaker 3: Like probably maybe if they have the medical because I
Speaker 3: mean we showed they showed in this episode specifically, which
Speaker 3: I found was really interesting, which I'm sure which we're
Speaker 3: definitely gonna get to that medical or somebody's there to
Speaker 3: save you instantly, yeah, right, like they're right there so
Speaker 3: I imagine, you know, you could get an insolent shot
Speaker 3: a day kind of thing.
Speaker 1: It's right, that's what I would I would assume that
Speaker 1: like it to the level of playing field to a
Speaker 1: certain degree, right, Like, they're not gonna let people starve,
Speaker 1: but those who shouldn't let somebody. But then again, if
Speaker 1: you're not capable of surviving on a beach, right like,
Speaker 1: you know, somebody who can't walk, let's say, right, like, that.
Speaker 2: Would be just too hard. So or even smaller, somebody
Speaker 2: who has asthma.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like, if you have you have a
Speaker 3: bad asthma attacker, you're inhaler.
Speaker 1: This is probably one of those moments where everyone's gonna
Speaker 1: be like, what are you Yes, they know exactly exactly
Speaker 1: what the rules are.
Speaker 2: And uh, we're not going to look them up. We're
Speaker 2: just gonna pretend like we know everything exactly.
Speaker 1: Challenge starts, they get the It's fun to watch everyone
Speaker 1: does pretty well.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The one thing I do like.
Speaker 3: About this is that it seems like they are all
Speaker 3: pretty close. Yeah, you know, It's it's never like, okay,
Speaker 3: well they vatsu, which is not going to kiss one.
Speaker 1: These You really know, there are times when people are like,
Speaker 1: I did not realize this show would be so hard.
Speaker 1: Like there was a season I think it was forty
Speaker 1: seven or forty eight where for like, I think the
Speaker 1: first time, two different people just dropped out. Really they
Speaker 1: were just like, this is too hard. I don't want
Speaker 1: to do this. You guys can vote me out.
Speaker 2: And everyone's like, okay, I'm telling you. It's generational.
Speaker 1: It is at that time, it was very generational. They
Speaker 1: were definitely younger like, and they were just like and
Speaker 1: We're like.
Speaker 2: What did you expect?
Speaker 3: Yeah, they expected a TikTok real and to get famous.
Speaker 2: That's what they expected. That's what they expected.
Speaker 3: And then it's like, oh, wait, you need me to
Speaker 3: be Sandy and grab firewood.
Speaker 2: I can't do that. I've never lifted anything in my
Speaker 2: life but my phone.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it was hard to watch, man.
Speaker 1: It was, you know, because I felt sorry for them
Speaker 1: a little bit. But then you're also like, what did
Speaker 1: you expect?
Speaker 2: Like this is kind of and I.
Speaker 3: Also I always look at it like this because they
Speaker 3: do this in the UFC too, where and it's one
Speaker 3: of the things that president of the UFC hates the
Speaker 3: most is you have to make weight and it's like,
Speaker 3: if you don't make weight, you can't fight. And the
Speaker 3: thing that pisses them off so much is like, do
Speaker 3: you realize you just took the place of somebody that
Speaker 3: would have worked there?
Speaker 2: Ass off right here.
Speaker 3: So it's like you came here, you you made it
Speaker 3: on Survivor, and now you're going to tap out because
Speaker 3: it's a little hard. You know how many thousands of
Speaker 3: people would love to take your place. Yeah, and so
Speaker 3: it's like, dude, that's just not cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, I guess that's worse than pooping your
Speaker 1: pants on Survivor.
Speaker 3: Dude, if you can't poop your pants on National Provision.
Speaker 1: Oh but you just know that for the rest of
Speaker 1: his life, everyone's going to be like, which one was Christian?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the guy who shoot his pants.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, that's why he just knows. It's like, no
Speaker 1: matter what he does the rest of the season. Oh,
Speaker 1: he's smart guy, poopy pants, smart guy. He started a
Speaker 1: fire with glasses for the first time. No one's gonna
Speaker 1: remember that. I already forgot that he would only call
Speaker 1: him Christian poopy pans.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, he's Piggy from Lord of the Rings.
Speaker 1: Oh, I love him all right, I love come on,
Speaker 1: he's my favorite.
Speaker 3: I want poopy pants.
Speaker 2: Cela wins uh and uh Kalo win second.
Speaker 1: So over Vatu Genevieve is drinking this sour coconut water
Speaker 1: and trying to convince.
Speaker 3: Them like coconut comes in different flavors. That just sounds
Speaker 3: like that's a bad coconut.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I totally. And this is where Aubrey has
Speaker 1: this moment. She's like, I'm surrounded by lunatics, which is
Speaker 1: super interesting because I really did like Aubrey from her season.
Speaker 1: You know, as I've talked about her last she was
Speaker 1: very much like the underdog in that situation, and she win.
Speaker 2: She was in the top three. I don't know if
Speaker 2: I can't honestly, I see this is the thing. I
Speaker 2: can't remember, shit, man.
Speaker 1: But I do know that she did very well and
Speaker 1: was sort of one of these people that you didn't
Speaker 1: expect because she physically wasn't like really aggressive and didn't
Speaker 1: feel comfortable on the beach and all these ways, and
Speaker 1: very similar to the way she's acting in this one.
Speaker 1: But but you know her, she's sort of just an
Speaker 1: odd person, you know, like she's just a little like
Speaker 1: and you can see that like Genevieve is already like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, not trusting her, and then they decide to
Speaker 1: go through her bad.
Speaker 3: It seems like, I just know, man, super invasive to.
Speaker 2: Me, and I love that.
Speaker 1: They even say, this makes you a dirty, rotten you
Speaker 1: know whatever, but we're doing it anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, they're like, if you do this on the street,
Speaker 3: you're the worst person in the world. But here on Survivor,
Speaker 3: you kind of gotta do what you gotta do. Do people,
Speaker 3: can you steal other people's shit and destroy their stuff? Then,
Speaker 3: I mean, is that all legal?
Speaker 2: Kind of?
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's sort of like you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: you had people be like get caught going through other
Speaker 1: people's stuff, using other people' stuff and getting very upset
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 2: They're being confrontations, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, you know, but it just really is up to
Speaker 1: the tribe to how they want to manage these kinds
Speaker 1: of things.
Speaker 2: I find it interesting that.
Speaker 1: Everybody's against Aubrey, Like I couldn't believe that no one
Speaker 1: person was like, well, she's on my you know, like
Speaker 1: she and I have an alliance and defending her, and no,
Speaker 1: they're all like the whole rest of the tribe is
Speaker 1: like coordinating, who's going to look out, who's going to distract?
Speaker 2: Well, we like go through her crap. I was like, yeah, man,
Speaker 2: that's not a good sign.
Speaker 1: You know, like if you don't have somebody having your back,
Speaker 1: she's going to be very alone. Turns out to be,
Speaker 1: you know, not that big of a as big of
Speaker 1: a deal because she gets that boomerang. Yeah, billy idol,
Speaker 1: Billy idol. But we'll get we'll get to that, all right.
Speaker 2: So Jonathan the Beast, the he man, super Jesus.
Speaker 3: I mean just every time I look at him, I
Speaker 3: feel less and less like a man, every single month.
Speaker 3: God and again, another forty five minutes trying to find
Speaker 3: those pants and I can't find him. I don't I
Speaker 3: almost I just how do I do a Google image search?
Speaker 3: Because I don't know how to do that. So I
Speaker 3: took a snapshot of him because you can't find just like, no, it'smatched,
Speaker 3: not those I want to find those. You find patchwork pants,
Speaker 3: but I can't find those. I need someone to find
Speaker 3: those specific pants for me, and then I get them
Speaker 3: in little boy sizes which would fit me. But that's
Speaker 3: what that's that's what I.
Speaker 2: Was so huge, it's huge and just a beast too.
Speaker 2: I mean, just that's the guy.
Speaker 3: He'd be my first pick. That's the guy you want.
Speaker 2: On your team.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: So he's out fishing and coach goes with them and
Speaker 1: gets this crazy cramp and it's legs, which is just like, dude.
Speaker 3: Have you ever had one? You ever had a cramp
Speaker 3: in doing something where you literally can't walk? No, they
Speaker 3: incapacitate you. You have one is bad enough where your
Speaker 3: whole muscle is twitching and you can't put any weight
Speaker 3: on it. So while you're swimming. Was it was not hyperbole?
Speaker 3: You get that when you're by yourself, you could.
Speaker 2: Easily drown and die.
Speaker 3: He'sa because you can't move your legs.
Speaker 2: It's horrible.
Speaker 3: So that's when I was like, oh, smart, they've got
Speaker 3: there's a boat like ten seconds away, which makes total
Speaker 3: sense of.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I mean, you're in the ocean, man, somebody yeah,
Speaker 1: just it only takes like thirty seconds and somebody's gone.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's just so intense to see like nothing happening. You know,
Speaker 1: it looks like nothing's wrong.
Speaker 2: The poor guy could yeah. Yeah, awful.
Speaker 1: All right Over at Cela, aussye uh pitches an alliance
Speaker 1: to Devon's and Savannah and says he wants Joe to
Speaker 1: be a part of it as well. And then there's
Speaker 1: this moment with Devon's and uh and Joe because like
Speaker 1: Devon's whispers to Savannah or Savannah whispers to Devon's and
Speaker 1: then Joe is like, you right, Devon's lies pretty poorly.
Speaker 1: It's oh he's terrible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my god, he lies as bad as Candice did
Speaker 3: on on Traders.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then it gets into this whole interesting thing.
Speaker 1: And this is where you know, I think you asked,
Speaker 1: can you play honorably? And you can see how actually
Speaker 1: playing honorably makes it harder sometimes a total detriment.
Speaker 2: Everyone's like, I can't, I can't take his honorable Well,
Speaker 2: you can see it's annoying.
Speaker 1: Joe's like he's like basically not accepting the terms of
Speaker 1: the game, you know. And this is what I felt
Speaker 1: this a little bit with Traders sometimes when people are
Speaker 1: like you're a snake and you're like that literally is
Speaker 1: the name of the game. Like it's yeah, so it's
Speaker 1: sort of the same thing. But I just love what
Speaker 1: Christian is like, we need we need a jotation to
Speaker 1: keep an eye on.
Speaker 3: So it was like, I love when Devon's was just
Speaker 3: like I think it was. Devon's was just like, yeah, uh,
Speaker 3: it's Survivor. You don't go up to somebody and ask
Speaker 3: what they're whispering about. You just assume that somebody's gonna
Speaker 3: whisper to somebody else. We're playing Survivor, like.
Speaker 1: It compares it to football, right, And he's like, you
Speaker 1: don't say, like, don't touch anybody.
Speaker 2: We don't want to hurt anybody. That's what you mean,
Speaker 2: it's what you do. I love that it's so true.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, you know, and you can see like it's yeah,
Speaker 1: I hope Joe adjusts because he's a really good guy.
Speaker 2: You know, it's a firefighter.
Speaker 1: Yes, but it's that like straightforward. I mean, that's kind
Speaker 1: of the way I feel like I would end up
Speaker 1: being like.
Speaker 3: Yes, But I mean the difference is it seems like
Speaker 3: he's that guy who talks like that and really lives that,
Speaker 3: where coach talks like that but doesn't actually live that way.
Speaker 1: It perfectly, but I totally agree, you know, but it's
Speaker 1: interesting because it's probably gonna hurt more than coach. My
Speaker 1: coach's strategy is actually gonna probably work and keep him
Speaker 1: in the game.
Speaker 2: I know, guys do finish. Last Man's terrible.
Speaker 1: And that's what he says because he really did get
Speaker 1: screwed over by Colin Camilla in his season so references.
Speaker 3: I wish I knew what that meant, but it sounds
Speaker 3: like he was in an alliance with two people that
Speaker 3: he trusted you just screwed.
Speaker 1: But you can just see he puts his heart out
Speaker 1: there right like he is. He is so like if
Speaker 1: I trust you, I trust you.
Speaker 2: It's you know, it reminds me.
Speaker 1: There have been a couple cops and firefighters over the
Speaker 1: years and it always it's so interesting because it really
Speaker 1: does remind me my father. My father has this this way.
Speaker 1: It's something that I think comes with the territory of
Speaker 1: being a cop or a firefighter where you're dealing with
Speaker 1: people in really high stressed situations like all the time, right,
Speaker 1: and you have to be the voice of authority to
Speaker 1: like calm them down or to give them horrible news,
Speaker 1: you know, like we lost you your partner in the
Speaker 1: fire or somebody. This person's not coming back. We try
Speaker 1: to resuscitate them. And so like my dad has this
Speaker 1: way of speaking that is like very clear it's very forthright,
Speaker 1: and I've always really appreciated that, you know, like it's
Speaker 1: it's a it's a powerful thing to be able to say, like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm not lying to you, I am being straight with you,
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm not going to sugarcoat things. And I
Speaker 1: can see Joe doing that and I do really like it.
Speaker 2: But you can see, man, it's going to drive they might.
Speaker 3: They consider voting him out because of it, because I
Speaker 3: know it's awesome. But what exactly what you're talking about
Speaker 3: when it comes to the trust thing with police officers
Speaker 3: and firefighters too, Like the people that you're with are
Speaker 3: could save your life.
Speaker 2: Yes, I need to trust you.
Speaker 3: I'm going to run into a burning building and I
Speaker 3: need to know that you're right behind me. Yes, And
Speaker 3: I don't I'm not going to look back. I just
Speaker 3: know you're there.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: It's military too, right, Military is too very similar.
Speaker 1: It's like a hundred and it's like you have to
Speaker 1: have this value system of like absolute clarity and reliance
Speaker 1: on one another that you know most of us don't have.
Speaker 1: And in survivor it seems like it's actually a weirdly
Speaker 1: a liability, which is you know, it's different from seasons.
Speaker 1: There have been other seasons where I'm sure that people
Speaker 1: do want to play that way, but in this case, man,
Speaker 1: you're dealing with a lot of really really smart game players,
Speaker 1: so they're gonna they're gonna, yeah, all right over at
Speaker 1: Vatu Riza and Angelina.
Speaker 2: Me and Lazy.
Speaker 3: It just really upset just sitting around like they're not
Speaker 3: doing anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that would drive me crazy.
Speaker 3: I can be I can be lazy as the next
Speaker 3: guy unless there's people around me.
Speaker 2: Counting on me, and then I'm gonna find something to do, right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And it's funny because like this actually hasn't happened that much,
Speaker 1: Like they don't talk about like I feel like most seasons,
Speaker 1: everybody's pretty much pulled their weight. Like there have been
Speaker 1: whole seasons where like an entire tribe just doesn't even
Speaker 1: build their shelter and they screw yeah, like they're just
Speaker 1: like late, like the whole tribe is later. They just
Speaker 1: want to like swim and hang out. But I feel
Speaker 1: like that's happened less and less. It seems like mostly
Speaker 1: people know, like they come on, they got to take
Speaker 1: care of their crap, keep everybody else happy, provide something
Speaker 1: to the tribe. But in this case it's it's I
Speaker 1: was shocked to see that the younger people were not
Speaker 1: doing anything.
Speaker 2: It's like, guys do something. Well, yeah, the younger generation.
Speaker 1: Sorry, all right now, the immunity challenge taking place in
Speaker 1: the jungle, this two hundred pounds survivor snake bringing it
Speaker 1: back through a set of obstacles that just looked miserable. Yes, yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: when you have to crawl through the sand like that,
Speaker 1: I'm always just like noth.
Speaker 3: Thanks through the sand through a net. Yeah, that's the
Speaker 3: a weighted net. And that was the first thing you
Speaker 3: had to do with this giant snake. I mean that
Speaker 3: looked that was crazy to me.
Speaker 2: Crazy.
Speaker 1: Then they have to do this crazy ball challenge thing
Speaker 1: with three of them. Basically it's sort of like a
Speaker 1: human video game, right, like like like how do we
Speaker 1: keep this ball from you know, but having to like
Speaker 1: learn to control it together.
Speaker 3: Well, don't you remember the game at the where you
Speaker 3: might you might have been too young, but I doubt it.
Speaker 2: We were close enough in age.
Speaker 3: It's you had the metal ball at the top, and
Speaker 3: you had the two metal long metal things and you.
Speaker 2: Had to kind of I don't even know how to describe.
Speaker 3: You have to manipulate the ball around the around the
Speaker 3: thing that then drop it in the hole. No, if
Speaker 3: there's two long metal pipes like this and then a
Speaker 3: ball at the top and you can't let the ball drop,
Speaker 3: you have to like manipulate the things down and then
Speaker 3: move it over and drop it in a hole.
Speaker 2: So it was like the adult version of that essentially. Yeah, yeah, yeah, super.
Speaker 1: Cool, super cool because they have to work together. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's like it's not an individual puzzle. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we have to like all be and it's I love that.
Speaker 2: I love that. It was all about communication.
Speaker 3: But it's also not only is about communication, but the
Speaker 3: way you win this game is somebody needs to take
Speaker 3: charge and everybody else needs to shut.
Speaker 2: Their mouth and listen to that one person. Yeah, because
Speaker 2: it's like.
Speaker 3: I need you to be all right, listen, you need
Speaker 3: to go here, you need to go. If you're going
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go here, No I'm gonna go it's never
Speaker 3: gonna work. Yeah, So you gotta almost instantly select the
Speaker 3: leader and then listen to that person.
Speaker 1: Really interesting And but wasn't it interesting how much like
Speaker 1: Rizzo came through in this part of the game.
Speaker 2: He was great, you know, it was like great, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So when they get to the snakes by the way,
Speaker 1: did you notice that to untie them? Yes, Okay, So
Speaker 1: this is something that Alex that I've always said, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of knots in Survivor, and we've always said
Speaker 1: since we first started watching, is like the first thing
Speaker 1: I would do to trade for Survivor is sit around
Speaker 1: untied knots all the day because they have to. And
Speaker 1: and like there were there have been seasons where it's
Speaker 1: like literally the whole challenge is just like ten minutes
Speaker 1: of not untied. And there have been like I think
Speaker 1: Charlie was the one I was talking about who who
Speaker 1: who worked up certain muscles like he also there have
Speaker 1: been people who have like built just not mazes in
Speaker 1: their house to like work their way through to.
Speaker 2: Like get good at it.
Speaker 3: So I mean certain knots that if you recognize them,
Speaker 3: you tug them a certain way and they instantly unfold,
Speaker 3: like totally.
Speaker 1: But I think the way these are is just literally
Speaker 1: like it's just a time consuming thing to slow you down.
Speaker 2: So just you have to get a lot of keys.
Speaker 3: I noticed that too, Like now you got to open
Speaker 3: the lock, and do this because it's like, okay, little
Speaker 3: little pitoy things that can take a lot of time.
Speaker 2: Exactly, and we screw you up, you know, on top
Speaker 2: of you know.
Speaker 1: All the physical Yeah, so uh, Colby really makes up
Speaker 1: for Rizzo having a slow start. Beast Jonathan does a
Speaker 1: dive bomb roll with the snake.
Speaker 2: Did you notice the thing like outside the ropes?
Speaker 1: I like this guy literally looks like the Hulk if
Speaker 1: he had green skin. He has the Hulk's body, just like.
Speaker 1: He reminds me of Jason Momoa, like an actual mom Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like, dude, first say.
Speaker 3: I want that guy, then I want somebody who's really
Speaker 3: good with strategy.
Speaker 2: Those two people are my first twopics. Yeah, and well
Speaker 2: he and Rizz are on the same team.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so Sila loses this challenge, I guess really
Speaker 1: bumps me out.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: Again, that's two in a row.
Speaker 1: You know, and I love everybody on that team, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I really do.
Speaker 2: So this is a bummer for me.
Speaker 1: I mean I in general, like I said, in general,
Speaker 1: I really like a lot of people this season, but
Speaker 1: Silla is like kind of all of my favorites.
Speaker 2: I really like that Syrian Ozzie have.
Speaker 1: Each other's back, because that's like a combom Like it's
Speaker 1: a magical combo.
Speaker 2: That's really cool. The two of them together too.
Speaker 3: She you know again, I'm getting to learn all these characters.
Speaker 3: She works a room so freaking well, dude, she just
Speaker 3: drops one or two nuggets and she walks perfectly.
Speaker 1: She's like, I let them come up with the strategy.
Speaker 1: That really I basically Jedi mind tricked them into.
Speaker 3: Y it's she's so you know, you don't need to
Speaker 3: see my identification, these aren't.
Speaker 2: She's amazing.
Speaker 1: Look, but then she's even more amazing to me? Was
Speaker 1: that Emily and who who was supposed to? Like Savannah
Speaker 1: and Emily figure that out. They're like, oh, series protecting Aussie,
Speaker 1: so like they're also like four dimensional chess playing.
Speaker 3: Everybody's getting it all the time. It must just be
Speaker 3: because you're just heightened. It's like traders, the anxiety and
Speaker 3: paranoia you must feel every freaking day. What did that
Speaker 3: look mean? What did that person say? Why are they
Speaker 3: walking and getting sticks together? Where's my bag? My bag
Speaker 3: wasn't over there? It must be insane.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I'm I really just felt sorry for
Speaker 1: them having to vote somebody out. It sucks, you know
Speaker 1: because I like everybody partners where it's like like like partners,
Speaker 1: where you're going on to survivor knowing for a fact
Speaker 1: that there's one person that has your back. Like it's like,
Speaker 1: well there was a mother daughter team where the daughter
Speaker 1: voted her mom out. No, yeah, yeah, it's like a
Speaker 1: legendary moment. Yeah, they have brought people in, Like I'm
Speaker 1: not sure if they did it as overall as a
Speaker 1: whole season. I think that maybe had been the case,
Speaker 1: but certainly, Yeah, there have been those kinds of things.
Speaker 1: I think they end up separating them early on and
Speaker 1: then you know, you find you get back together.
Speaker 3: But I vote for your mom, dude.
Speaker 2: It's hardcore.
Speaker 3: Is an uncomfortable Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: Or you know, you just know that, like she would
Speaker 1: do the same to you if it meant, you know,
Speaker 1: winning a million dollars.
Speaker 3: Or not.
Speaker 2: Before.
Speaker 3: If you've got to vote me out, vote me out,
Speaker 3: we split the money whatever, one of us.
Speaker 2: Yes, you have to understand the game. That's that's what
Speaker 2: they didn't like about.
Speaker 1: That Trader scenario where it was like, well, we know
Speaker 1: each other, we would never let's say, but then you
Speaker 1: would be playing the game horribly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you're right, you be breaking the rules of
Speaker 2: the game.
Speaker 3: So we kind of saw that with H with Tara
Speaker 3: and uh yeah, Johnny.
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, so Joe, Uh you know is H. I
Speaker 1: love him, but he's got a problem, like he's struggling
Speaker 1: like getting people to like him, or if people just
Speaker 1: want to deal with his like yeah, aggressive honor, like
Speaker 1: you go to be this way. Sirie really does like
Speaker 1: manage to get everybody off of Ozzy, which is so cool.
Speaker 3: I don't know if they edit it this way or
Speaker 3: if she just dropped two or three quick things, quick
Speaker 3: nuggets and everyone was like, she's right, yeah, because it
Speaker 3: seemed instantaneous.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't think anybody really wanted to vote out
Speaker 1: Azzy because they want to. They they need to win
Speaker 1: challenges in order to to not be in the situation.
Speaker 1: So you don't want to vote out somebody who's physically
Speaker 1: giving you a huge leg up like he is, and
Speaker 1: he's also feeding them you.
Speaker 3: Know, hey Fishes, he's a monster in these challenges too.
Speaker 2: That's the thing.
Speaker 1: You just don't You don't want to vote him out
Speaker 1: except that he might win the game. So it's like
Speaker 1: that weird thing of like at what point do we
Speaker 1: blindside Ozzie. It's kind of the question, like, and this
Speaker 1: is what.
Speaker 3: Ben was telling us, where he's like the but the
Speaker 3: way you're supposed to play traders is you figure out
Speaker 3: who you know the trader is going to be, then
Speaker 3: keep them there till the end.
Speaker 2: Exactly, So exactly that same kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ozzie decides to give Suri his extra vote as
Speaker 1: a thank you, which I thought was so sweet.
Speaker 2: I love this partner. So, man, okay, this is this
Speaker 2: was I'm trying to figure out the rules.
Speaker 3: He has an idol, yes, that was, so he can't
Speaker 3: be voted out. He's got the boat the boomerang if
Speaker 3: he can't be voted out if he ras yes, And
Speaker 3: and he had an extra vote, so he had two
Speaker 3: things yes, and he decided to give one to si yep, gotcha.
Speaker 1: And Soria has played Survivor five times and has never
Speaker 1: had her own advantage, which is amazing, Which is amazing,
Speaker 1: Like that's yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: So did we talk about how poopy Pants found an
Speaker 3: idol to get it?
Speaker 2: Okay, I gotcha? Cutover, cut over to the Christian.
Speaker 1: Well, actually sorry, it's at the same tribe where he's
Speaker 1: he's I just love that he's like literally rocking Joe
Speaker 1: in the hammock to like.
Speaker 2: Calm him down, and you'd be like.
Speaker 1: Well, maybe we're playing the game correctly, and you could
Speaker 1: just see like he's basically like rock Joe.
Speaker 2: That's so good. That's what I mean.
Speaker 1: I love everybody on this drive because you know, when
Speaker 1: they're like actually having to be against each other, they're
Speaker 1: still trying to be so nice about it, and they're
Speaker 1: all like, uh god, but yeah. But then poopy Pants
Speaker 1: uh finds an idol, which.
Speaker 3: Is just find an idol. Their faces when they light up.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's amazing.
Speaker 2: It's so fun to watch.
Speaker 3: It's a meme every time they find an idea.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So he finds another Billie Eilish boomerang idol, which we
Speaker 1: were affectionately referring to as the Billy idol, the Billy idols,
Speaker 1: the Billy idol, and he decides to give it to Aubrey,
Speaker 1: which is super interesting that he into it's basically from
Speaker 1: Aubrey's previous gameplay that she is a strategist who could
Speaker 1: probably use it because and she really could use it.
Speaker 1: And I think it's hysterical that they searched her back
Speaker 1: for an idol, and if it had happened after she
Speaker 1: could have potentially they could have potentially found her idol
Speaker 1: before she did, because they actually hid the idol in
Speaker 1: her bag. Yeah, so she just opened her bag and
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, there's an idol in here.
Speaker 2: So it's so interesting that that question.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you if they, let's say, for the sake
Speaker 3: of argument, they opened her bag and they found the idol,
Speaker 3: can they take it or is it her idol?
Speaker 2: It's she has to train for.
Speaker 1: It has to Okay, then somebody can feel it from you, gotcha, gotcha? No,
Speaker 1: but you can transfer Sometimes you can't transfers. I think
Speaker 1: in this case you can't. I think they might have
Speaker 1: said that you can't give it to anybody else.
Speaker 3: No, you had you had to give it to somebody
Speaker 3: that wasn't in your tribe, and then it comes back
Speaker 3: to you if they're voted off with it in their pocket.
Speaker 2: But I also think there's a rule that they can't
Speaker 2: give it to anybody else. No, they can't. It's it's
Speaker 2: it's there because normally if.
Speaker 1: You just find like a full idol on your beach,
Speaker 1: like there have been seasons where all there are is
Speaker 1: just like you know, an idol, and you find it,
Speaker 1: you can hand that to somebody.
Speaker 2: Else, gotcha.
Speaker 1: There have also been instances, and this is my favorite,
Speaker 1: where people make fake idols.
Speaker 3: Well they did it this week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, Well we haven't seen exact I didn't understand
Speaker 1: what was going on, and I'm still very curious what
Speaker 1: they're doing. But yeah, but there have been times when
Speaker 1: somebody's made a fake idol, told somebody that they have it,
Speaker 1: and given it to them and said you can use this,
Speaker 1: and then that poor person has gone to play it
Speaker 1: and been told, like Jeff Probe's like hands is this
Speaker 1: is not a real immunity idol, and then the poor
Speaker 1: person gets voted out.
Speaker 2: It's so much, Oh my god. So he tells them
Speaker 2: after they.
Speaker 1: Because they play it, they like announce I'm gonna play
Speaker 1: my idol and then they have to.
Speaker 2: Give it to Jeff. And Jeff knows because he's you know,
Speaker 2: on the producer oriel side.
Speaker 1: He's kept track of what is a real idol and not,
Speaker 1: and he's been able to like look at some beaded
Speaker 1: thing that somebody's put together by collecting rocks and stuff
Speaker 1: they've made idols, and he'll just be like, that's not
Speaker 1: a real idol, and then that poor person doesn't you know, they'll.
Speaker 3: Just go It seems like they should be They should
Speaker 3: tell them when they go to play it, not after
Speaker 3: they've been voted out.
Speaker 2: Oh that's so mean. Why wouldn't you.
Speaker 3: Just do that all the time, Like, hey, dude, you're
Speaker 3: you're you're immune.
Speaker 2: Here's an idol.
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Oh yikes, Oh that's awful. All right.
Speaker 1: The scramble before tribal is pretty intense, turn out to
Speaker 1: not actually be then intense. It's kind of like what
Speaker 1: Syria and Ozzie said in motion plays out, but there
Speaker 1: is this moment where it's like, it does feel like
Speaker 1: the tension shifts back to Ozzie because everyone's like, you know,
Speaker 1: Soria's just doing this for Ozzy and everyone can see
Speaker 1: their relationship developing.
Speaker 3: Did you think he was going to play his idol?
Speaker 1: No, but I was worried that they because they could have,
Speaker 1: you know, just because they don't know that he has
Speaker 1: an idol.
Speaker 2: Right, No, yeah, she does.
Speaker 3: I think Serrino's right.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if she does. I'm assuming because he
Speaker 2: gave her his extra vote. I don't know.
Speaker 1: If he actually has told her because he's been voted
Speaker 1: out with idol and idol know.
Speaker 3: Which is that Sometimes you think you'd be gunshine and
Speaker 3: be like I'm playing it.
Speaker 1: I'm playing it, I know, but you want to hold
Speaker 1: onto it because he knows he's going to get blindsided,
Speaker 1: you know, he and yeah, but anyway, they always heighten
Speaker 1: the drama. Like a lot of times you go into
Speaker 1: tribal and like they actually pretty much all know the
Speaker 1: plan and then you know, the producers just edit it
Speaker 1: to make it it.
Speaker 3: Sounds like they did this week. They knew, they knew
Speaker 3: when they all vote for the same person, you know,
Speaker 3: the plans already set in motion.
Speaker 1: And before right before they go to tribal, Christian and
Speaker 1: Devon's had this conversation where they I didn't know what
Speaker 1: they were doing, where they're going to create a fake
Speaker 1: idol and like leave it. It turns out there they're
Speaker 1: going to wrap up a fake IDOL and leave it
Speaker 1: at the tribal council area for somebody in another tribe
Speaker 1: to find.
Speaker 2: Or maybe they're going to leave a clue for one
Speaker 2: of their own tribe. I don't know. It's a weird,
Speaker 2: weird choice I'm not sure how it's all going to
Speaker 2: play out. They weren't. We didn't get to see the
Speaker 2: idol that they faked.
Speaker 3: But it works so well together. No, we just know
Speaker 3: that he had the wrapping from the original one. They
Speaker 3: wrapped it up to look like the regular thing. They
Speaker 3: did the greatest sleight of hand essentially to get to
Speaker 3: tide it there. And I'm dying to know I was
Speaker 3: because I'm the same thing.
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I'm like, okay, what is what
Speaker 2: does that do?
Speaker 3: But knowing that you can have a fake idol and
Speaker 3: then play it and be like I'm safe and it
Speaker 3: turns out you're not, is just oh god, it's harsh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1: So at the tribal council, Joe brings up his argument
Speaker 1: with Devons. I thought this was really nice, Like, you know,
Speaker 1: they kind of hash it out. Joe doesn't quite apologize,
Speaker 1: but you know, does admit his own stubbornness and his own,
Speaker 1: you know, in a like inability to to be the
Speaker 1: kind of player that Devon's is.
Speaker 3: And now you said these can get contentious, because I haven't.
Speaker 2: So far.
Speaker 3: It's been just like, I love playing with everybody. And
Speaker 3: here's why I want to apologize forever I did this
Speaker 3: week kind of.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, people are these are really good players, you know.
Speaker 1: It's they know that you don't reveal anything at tribal
Speaker 1: because the second you open your mouth and you start
Speaker 1: like letting beef come out in front of everybody a target, yeah,
Speaker 1: you become the target.
Speaker 2: Like it doesn't help you.
Speaker 1: That's why I like Coach talking about that Ozzy situation
Speaker 1: is like, dude, just stop, like just no one cares.
Speaker 2: No one cares that much.
Speaker 1: You your ego got hurt, your ego got bruised, You're
Speaker 1: worried about your reputation in a game where literally everybody's
Speaker 1: voting everybody else out Like, yeah, nobody really care is
Speaker 1: that much? And I think Mike is Mike White is
Speaker 1: very aware that. I love the way he always has
Speaker 1: this slightly shitty and grin on his face when stuff
Speaker 1: like that happens.
Speaker 2: He's just like, I see what's going on here.
Speaker 3: And he's the kid who throws a cherry bomb in
Speaker 3: the toilet and then walks away when it explodes and
Speaker 3: looks around like who did that?
Speaker 2: Perfect exactly?
Speaker 1: And I think that's why he's kind of beloved because
Speaker 1: everyone's like yeah, you know, like he's not like a villain,
Speaker 1: he's just a bit of fun.
Speaker 2: Trickster.
Speaker 1: Trickster exactly totally. And then yeah, Savannah talks. She gets
Speaker 1: emotional about how hard it is to be vulnerable, which
Speaker 1: I really appreciated, you know, like I can see this
Speaker 1: is like man, and it's unfortunate that she gives that
Speaker 1: speech right before.
Speaker 3: She's a voter and she's the one who won the
Speaker 3: last season who they didn't know yet. Okay, so she's
Speaker 3: gone from like she's like I had a week off
Speaker 3: essentially a good A good part of her is probably
Speaker 3: really relieved to be off that damnite right.
Speaker 1: She's a really good player though, Yeah, like I was
Speaker 1: impressed to be able to keep up with these people,
Speaker 1: these this level of plane. And like I said, she
Speaker 1: was like she was hip to like what was going
Speaker 1: on in her tribe and like very sophisticated and like
Speaker 1: when she did her challenge, you know, by herself, like
Speaker 1: she's just she's played well.
Speaker 3: And she had an extra vote from the coalie thing,
Speaker 3: that's what it was, which wouldn't have helped her in
Speaker 3: any way, shape or from anyway.
Speaker 1: No, because it looks like, yeah, everybody just turned on her.
Speaker 1: But so my problem so far, like my going back
Speaker 1: to like when you you asked in the opening the
Speaker 1: first fan choice, which was that they you know, don't
Speaker 1: get flint, they.
Speaker 2: Don't get scared. You know, this is that's what's happening.
Speaker 1: Where like the thing that I was I explained to
Speaker 1: you that could happen, which is that the struggling tribe
Speaker 1: in this case, the tribe without fire, they don't have
Speaker 1: flint and they they got fired with their things, but
Speaker 1: they don't have any fishing gear, right they I guess
Speaker 1: they got there. They got the camp improvement this this
Speaker 1: time that's hard. But like you see that once one
Speaker 1: tribe starts, sometimes they just keep losing. And I'm afraid
Speaker 1: that that's happening, like the snowball effect of like Sila,
Speaker 1: which is full of good people and good players, just
Speaker 1: because they're they're going down and they're losing morale and
Speaker 1: they're starting it sucks, man, be a time now, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this will happen where it just like literally comes down
Speaker 1: to two people on the tribe and they're like what
Speaker 1: do we do? And then they just have to merge
Speaker 1: them into other tribes And what sucks about that? Is
Speaker 1: they come into an established tribe on the bottom always because.
Speaker 3: That's the first person, great person to vote out here,
Speaker 3: good because we have no allegiance to this person exactly.
Speaker 1: I mean, what you ultimately want is your tribe to
Speaker 1: go merge with another tribe, hopefully with like four or
Speaker 1: five of you, or at least three of you, so
Speaker 1: you can go in with your alliance, you know. But
Speaker 1: the problem is you by the time it gets to that,
Speaker 1: you might hate half the people on your own tribe.
Speaker 2: It gets really complicated socially once once the merge happens.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so I just hope that Cela can come
Speaker 1: back just for the sake of the game play, because
Speaker 1: I just hate seeing one team get screwed.
Speaker 2: But also because you, like everybody is these are my people.
Speaker 2: I'm totally just I'm gonna put my heart on the line.
Speaker 2: I'm laying it out there. I care about them, I
Speaker 2: like them.
Speaker 3: I was team Colby. I am all in on poopy Pants,
Speaker 3: I'll be honest with you. Did you also notice his
Speaker 3: shirt with the robots?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what does it say? Ten one?
Speaker 3: It's yeah, well it's it's zero one are a zero
Speaker 3: zero one zero one one, So it's binary code. There's
Speaker 3: a see different. Oh, I have no idea, but it's
Speaker 3: it's a cool binary shirt. I'm sure it means something.
Speaker 3: I'm sure I don't understand. But just the fact that
Speaker 3: it's three robots and it's binary code I thought was
Speaker 3: really cool.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, if somebody out there knows plea no
Speaker 2: binary code?
Speaker 3: Yeah zero one, well zero zeros one zero is one
Speaker 3: one I think it is, or whatever it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh, so I have to tell you this because I
Speaker 1: thought about it when they they vote Savannah out. So
Speaker 1: if you notice when they you know, they lose their fire,
Speaker 1: that's how you get.
Speaker 2: That's how you're extinguished from the game, is that they
Speaker 2: right Brett.
Speaker 1: And so every time he says the tribe has spoken,
Speaker 1: and he snuffs their their torch and then then they
Speaker 1: walk away. Indie for years thought that he was saying,
Speaker 1: trap you're smoking.
Speaker 2: As he snuff.
Speaker 3: It kind of works perfectly, perfectly.
Speaker 1: So every time we look at each other and we go, Savannah,
Speaker 1: trap your smoking, because it makes literal sense, right, we're
Speaker 1: gonna trap your smoking.
Speaker 3: Exactly, I thought, they take their bowl and they go,
Speaker 3: you're not token.
Speaker 2: Trapped smoking. So if we if we ever create tworld merch.
Speaker 1: I think our first thing should be a shirt that
Speaker 1: just says, trap your smoking.
Speaker 2: You're smoking. I like it.
Speaker 3: I tink you should trap your I tink you should.
Speaker 1: We gotta get dancing with the stars in there, somehow
Speaker 1: get one more one dancing to the stargar Is we
Speaker 1: have a perfect shirt.
Speaker 2: Yes, we'll figure it out, all right, do you have
Speaker 2: a survivor?
Speaker 4: Wait?
Speaker 2: Well before that, don't forget.
Speaker 3: They then do the great misdirect where he where poopy
Speaker 3: pants pretends to fall.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna call him that anymore. Christian falls are
Speaker 2: acting Christian dude. But it works.
Speaker 1: It just makes you turn your head enough to where
Speaker 1: it's perfect. But I love their ways series, like are
Speaker 1: you okay? Because he didn't know where to walk at them?
Speaker 2: It's over here. You got a little so he might
Speaker 2: have he might have handed it up a little too much.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't understand what their strategy is, Like, Okay,
Speaker 1: they obviously edited out what you know, what they built,
Speaker 1: what they made, and how what their plan is Like yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's bait for somebody. But I'm so curious
Speaker 1: what they wrote, if they wrote anything.
Speaker 2: Like my other question do they have access to pen
Speaker 2: and paper?
Speaker 3: Can they write stuff?
Speaker 2: You know, that's a very good question. I don't.
Speaker 1: I think you are allowed to bring like one personal item,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure people do often bring a notebook to
Speaker 1: keep notes, to keep track of who's who and like,
Speaker 1: so I think they but I'm I'm not one hundred
Speaker 1: percent sure on that, okay, but I think they get
Speaker 1: to bring one personal item, you know, as long as
Speaker 1: it's not like.
Speaker 2: A hack saw, right exactly, it's.
Speaker 1: Just a whole bunch of food, like just a rations.
Speaker 2: It's awesome.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I wonder how far away they are
Speaker 3: from door dash, Like, what if it's just my My
Speaker 3: personal line is my phone and I'm on starlink and
Speaker 3: I'm just going to keep ordering food the entire time.
Speaker 2: Oh god, that'd be funny. All right, you got a
Speaker 2: survivor from history.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: But then the tip of your tongue just from the
Speaker 2: top of your on the top of my head.
Speaker 3: But of course we're calling this famous from exactly, thank you.
Speaker 3: We've got a really cool one today. We've got Julianne
Speaker 3: Margaret Beatty Kopecky.
Speaker 2: Oh, another female survivor.
Speaker 3: Oh, listen to this Kopeki is known for being the
Speaker 3: sole survivor of the nineteen seventy one Lance of Flight
Speaker 3: five oh eight crash Oh my God, when the plane
Speaker 3: was struck by lightning. She fell ten thousand feet no
Speaker 3: while strapped to her seat, and suffered numerous injuries, including ancussion,
Speaker 3: broken collarbone, and a torn knee ligament. She survived eleven
Speaker 3: days alone in the Peruvian Amazon rainforest until she located
Speaker 3: a lumberjack camp.
Speaker 2: Hold on, how do you survive a ten thousand foot fall? Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a great questions.
Speaker 1: She must have like hit jungle and like giant trees
Speaker 1: that broke her fall like like full Avatar style, you know,
Speaker 1: or they.
Speaker 3: Like I imagine giant.
Speaker 2: Leaf to giant leaf and it just like cradles her death.
Speaker 2: That's how it was.
Speaker 3: She found herself falling, still strapped to her row of seats.
Speaker 2: In the Amazon rainforest.
Speaker 3: She ended up surviving the fall, but had a whole
Speaker 3: bunch of injuries. Eleven days in the rainforest, she dealt
Speaker 3: with severe insect bites and an infestation of botfly larvae
Speaker 3: into her injured arm. After nine days, they were disgusting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that means that like they were planting eggs in
Speaker 1: her wound.
Speaker 3: Yep, oh so pretty awesome. Uh yeah, so that she
Speaker 3: literally they it.
Speaker 1: Was did you ever watch that one survival show where
Speaker 1: it was it was it was.
Speaker 2: It was like a loan before alone, where it was
Speaker 2: just the one guy. I'm blanking on his name, Oh
Speaker 2: Survivorman Survivorman.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, dude, that was That show is intense and
Speaker 1: he did want He did a couple in the rainforest
Speaker 1: and like rainforests are crazy. Oh, like there's just so
Speaker 1: many weird bugs and like plants that will kill you.
Speaker 1: Oh dude, I would way rather be lost like where
Speaker 1: they are and alone, which is like the Arctic, which
Speaker 1: sounds worse, but at least like you can lay on
Speaker 1: the ground, like if I remember the Survivor man, he
Speaker 1: couldn't lay on the ground because he was so worried
Speaker 1: about snakes and spiders.
Speaker 3: And not just that they have they have certain places
Speaker 3: you go where they say like if you're in if
Speaker 3: you find yourself in waste deep water, don't pee because
Speaker 3: if you open up your urethra, things crawl up inside
Speaker 3: of you.
Speaker 2: And oh, yikes, too rain for it like real jungle
Speaker 2: like Peruvian.
Speaker 1: Nope, nope, nope, I get the creepy crawl is just
Speaker 1: thinking about it like.
Speaker 3: Okay, wait now say this is something you should understand too.
Speaker 3: Experts have said that she survived the fall because she
Speaker 3: was harnessed into her seat, the window seat, which was
Speaker 3: attached to the two seats to her left as part
Speaker 3: of a row of three that thought to have functioned
Speaker 3: almost as a parachute or.
Speaker 2: A helicopter, which slowed her fall.
Speaker 3: The impact may have also lessened by the updraft from
Speaker 3: a thunderstorm she fell through and went through thick foliage
Speaker 3: at the landing site. So I mean just and then
Speaker 3: and the crazy thing was as many as fourteen other
Speaker 3: passengers were later discovered to have survived the initial crash
Speaker 3: but died waiting to be rescued.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah that I don't know, like if I
Speaker 1: fell ten thousand feet, how do you have the like
Speaker 1: you don't faith in yourself to keep going?
Speaker 2: You don't or you just it's like.
Speaker 1: Okay, like you do. I have to survive because my God,
Speaker 1: like one of their dances.
Speaker 3: But so they think it helicoptered the seat helicopter down
Speaker 3: which slowed her, and then an uplift from the storm
Speaker 3: and then hitting the foliage. I mean, the confluence of
Speaker 3: events that needed to happen to keep this woman alive
Speaker 3: is mind boggling.
Speaker 2: Wow. So there's your survivor from history.
Speaker 3: To and then when she landed and the botflies were
Speaker 3: in her and they're climbing out of her, she had
Speaker 3: to dive into a river and get a key and
Speaker 3: then open up No, I'm kidding, that was it.
Speaker 1: And then build a puzzle that said Survivor Season fifty
Speaker 1: for some reason, and that got her out.
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, Colby was there. She found a
Speaker 2: Billie eilish Idol and she was okay. So there you go.
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