WEBVTT - Pod Meets Twirl'd: Survivor 5002 0:00:09.600 --> 0:00:13.119 Welcome to Pod Meets Tworld, the podcast that once chronicled 0:00:13.119 --> 0:00:15.040 two guys who had never seen Dancing with the Stars, 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:18.480 but watched a season and somehow walked away experts. From there, 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:21.560 we've entered into Traders, a show I'd never seen, but 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:22.840 Will swore he could win. 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:24.680 And now we turn. 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:28.840 To Survivor season fifty, the big One. This time the 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:31.960 roles are reversed. Will has seen exactly one season, the 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:35.239 first one. Meanwhile, I've watched for years. We are Wilfred Ell, 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:38.320 who prefers his wilderness with room service, and Ryder Strong, 0:00:38.320 --> 0:00:41.000 who will hike any mountain but hates the beach. Two 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:44.360 best friends, one devoted to the comforts of civilization, one 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:46.600 who would never leave the woods if he could. Both 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:52.040 reality competition scholars join us as we dive into alliances, 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:55.840 blind sides, fire making, sand related misery, and twenty five 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:59.160 years of television history culminating in a single massive season. 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:02.360 This is Pod Meets Twirled Seeking immunity. 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:07.440 What what? What? 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:09.840 What was your impression of the Morning Zoo show that. 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:12.640 We would starting dingle in the dank. 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:14.600 It's ding in the morning. 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:25.839 We're gonna crank call puppets today. Yeah, I mean, maybe 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:29.200 we should just give up our Survivor recaps and just 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:32.320 go straight Morning Zoo radio show. 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:34.880 Yeah, and I feel like we need like three more people, 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:37.840 oh yeah, yeah, and we need a soundboard. 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:40.600 And then like we have somebody that we always annoy 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:45.119 by calling, like your mom, you know, Criticle Will's mom 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:47.800 for her opinion, what she gotta say about this Will? 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:51.200 Yeah, we got it, and oh I love it. Which 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:53.400 one's dingle and which one's the dank is the question. 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:56.560 We'll figure, we'll work. 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:01.480 We'll work shopping later. It's got to be your dingle 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:11.959 dingle And with me coming into you with Morning Wood. 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:18.080 Well, I know we annoyed a lot of our listeners 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:22.160 last week by our severe lack of Survivor knowledge. 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:24.040 That is the point of the show. 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:27.480 I'm just gonna remind you I have watched some Survivor. 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:29.720 I obviously haven't watched enough. 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:31.000 Did people not like it? 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:31.160 Like? 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:31.440 What? 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:32.079 Yeah? 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:34.600 Just because yeah, I get. 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:37.200 It, Like, I'm sure if you actually keep up with 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:43.920 Survivor history and these contestants in particular, but we I'm yeah, 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:47.680 I've liked Survivor, but I've been a very casual watcher. 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:51.160 You know, I don't keep track of all the rule changes, 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:55.000 it turns out that the New Era is actually just 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:58.760 that it's a shorter a shorter period of time there 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:01.440 on the island, Like they used to stay longer and 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:04.240 the game was slower to start, so like you didn't form, 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:07.120 like people just didn't play as aggressively. But in the 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:11.480 New Era, the game got condensed and there's just it's 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:12.359 a quicker pace. 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:14.120 So I'd like, I did read. 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:15.520 A couple of things where people said you were spot on 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:18.240 about certain things though, like the fact that apparently in 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:21.040 the early seasons they really concentrated on building the shelters 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:24.120 and getting food and the actual survivor aspect, right, this 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:26.880 is nothing to do with that, No, Well, in so. 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:29.079 They cut into a little bit about Raizo Bee and 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:32.680 lazy Yah, right, so they are doing stuff, they're just 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:35.160 not like editing my own you know, like yeah, they're 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:38.720 only editing those moments in if they play into the 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:41.720 social game strategy, right, Like they're not including because I 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:44.839 think people just got bored of like every season being 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:45.360 about like. 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:47.760 Oh my god, I'm so hungry or I'm so cold. 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:51.120 But I also think maybe people stopped complaining because they 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:53.840 kind of knew what they were getting into. So that's 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:57.400 the survival aspect is so low priority nowadays. 0:03:57.440 --> 0:04:01.080 Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. I mean I'm not fully in yet. 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:04.000 I'll be telling you because you prefer like Alan, where 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:06.000 it's really about what they're actually doing. 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:07.240 Make it what it's about. 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:10.120 If it's called survivor, then give them no food, give 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:12.520 them no fire, and let them win stuff or whatever 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:14.920 it's going to be, and then make it about we've 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:16.360 got to build a shelter. We've got to work together 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:18.040 as kind it's almost Lord of Flies. We've got to 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:19.560 work together as a community. We've got to do this 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:22.279 kind of stuff. But this is it seriously seems to 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:24.600 me like a bunch of people sitting around going who 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:25.320 should we vote off? 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:26.880 Let's vote her off? No, I don't want to vote 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:28.480 her off. Okay, let's vote somebody else off. 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:30.400 Well, now we've got to go and do a challenge, okay, 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:32.159 And and the whole and I'm kind of going. 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:32.839 Like, is this it is? 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:32.960 This? 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:37.040 Is this all they do? Yeah, it's it's more like 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:37.920 you know, I think. 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:40.320 If you if you hear Jeff Probes especially talk about it, 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:43.239 it's he's always cause it a social experiment, right. 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:43.960 And that is. 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:47.560 It's it's more about like I think, yeah, they just 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:51.000 they've decided to play into the drama and the interpersonal 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:54.200 stuff as the strategy, you know, as the game. 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:56.080 It's it's basically a game show with the with the 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:57.080 backdrop of the island. 0:04:57.200 --> 0:05:00.839 Yeah, but the game show the game is very row physically, 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:04.080 you know, like these challenges are no joke, you know, like. 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:06.239 I don't understand how people are not getting hurt. 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:07.320 Basically every episode. 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:09.240 I know, because they do a lot of stuff where 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:11.960 you're jumping and landing in the water the wrong way 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:13.279 of it, and a lot of these people are not 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:13.880 in their twenties. 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:16.200 I mean, the people that like Cob Coby this is. 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:19.640 You know, my wife has talked about doing Survivor, and 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:22.520 my son has been pushing her to do it, and 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:25.839 she's always said, like she would kill at the strategy, 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:28.400 like she loves the social strategies. She would be great 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:30.560 at all and she would she would be genuinely because 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:33.040 she's so good at socializing, Like she's good at like 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:36.039 being friendly to people and getting them on her side. 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:38.640 But she's also can be machiavellian in the best way. 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:41.200 But her biggest thing is the physical challenges and she's 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:43.600 in good shape, she's just not in that kind of 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:46.240 shape and she doesn't love like working out. You know, 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:48.359 you have to like be like a person willing to 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:49.800 really push, you said to yourself. 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:51.760 Though they've changed it to where like there's some some 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:53.520 people that are not on the island that aren't in 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:55.560 the greatest of shape, so there are more kind of 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:58.480 like positions for those. Yeah, exactly like it, like the 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:00.000 whole team needs to do this, so she could take 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:00.479 and she. 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:04.640 She just doesn't want to, and she's like having to 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:06.520 jump and swim and climb and do all that. 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:09.440 She's like, she's just not this person. I think that 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:12.040 would be the fun. I couldn't do whatever. I'm such 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:12.880 a whimp, you know. 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:17.160 Like I just like I when I go into the woods, 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:20.120 I'm usually backpacking, like walking very little, you know. I'm 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:23.919 the whole experience for me is just the the the 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:27.320 nature stuff. It's not pushing myself physically. Like I'm going 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:29.159 into the woods this weekend with a group of friends 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:32.400 and I'm I'm really nervous because one of my friends 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:35.240 is on a big physical fitness kick right now, so 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:37.919 he's like we're gonna be mountain biking this day. Then 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:39.800 we're gonna be surfing in the morning, and then we're 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:42.240 and I'm like, yeah, okay, I'll be I'll take care 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:43.760 of the meals and I'm just trying to like make 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:46.080 really lavish meals with lots of alcohol. So we're too 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:48.920 hung over to do half of his ex my whole 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:52.440 plan smart now, No, I'm just I'm gonna try. But 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:54.920 you know, I'm like, can we do e mountain biking? 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:57.719 Like we got electric mountain bikes and we can, so 0:06:57.760 --> 0:06:58.200 we will. 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:01.920 Good. Where are you going near Santa Cruz? Okay? 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:02.279 Nice? 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:05.120 Nice? So out in the rare inviting me. I am 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:07.719 busy this weekend and can't go with you. Oh you would? 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:07.839 You? 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:10.160 Would you really come into the woods? It's not a chance, 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:11.680 exactly a chance. 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:14.000 I'll do the drinking part, but I can do that here. 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:15.720 You could just hang out at the house and be 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:17.720 at the cabin when we come back after or. 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:22.600 Are camping if there's if you don't have every streaming 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:23.920 service camping. 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:27.560 All right, Well, So to be clear, we're gonna know 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:30.920 some survivor stuff. I cannot keep up with these characters. 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:33.240 I've definitely seen a lot of the seasons that these 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:35.560 people played in. I don't have the memory to keep 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:37.840 track of them anymore. And the problem is I never 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:41.040 watched any season live, Like I never. 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:42.920 Actually that's not true. 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:45.080 There was there was one period where I was in 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:48.360 a Survivor league, like a fantasy football league for Survivor 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:51.360 and yeah, and it was, but it was all email based. 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:53.840 We never met in person. It was it was like 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:56.200 a friend of a friend one when they found out 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:57.360 that I was into Survivor, They're. 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:59.280 Like, oh, you go to join so and so's league. 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:03.040 And he ran very like had a whole point system. 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:06.120 So there were maybe like twenty of us and I 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:06.960 never did very well. 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:08.480 But the whole point was that you picked. 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:12.040 Your your person, you know, your team the first episodes. 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:13.640 You can only after the first episode. 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.320 You had to pick three people that you thought we're 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:18.160 going to go to the end or at least one 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:20.080 of them would you know, win, And then there was 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:22.160 a point system based on if that person, if you're 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:24.800 one of your teammates, got eliminated, you lost, like if 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:27.520 they if they did well on an immunity challenge, you 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:30.000 got points, you know, so you would get points based 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:32.079 on like the different aspects of the game. 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:35.360 So those like three seasons I watched live. 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:38.840 Otherwise everything has been completely out of order, me and 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:40.760 my wife and my son just being like we haven't 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:43.400 seen this season. We just click on it. So it's 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:45.720 very hard to like keep together in my hand. 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:48.720 I'm hoping most of our listeners are dear, dear listeners, 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:52.680 as Danielle would say, understand that when we say experts, 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:54.839 we're joking. What we really mean is we have no 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:59.800 idea what we were, And hopefully they understand the correlation between 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:02.760 the other than dancing and and Traders, of which we 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:07.480 are actual experts survivor. We're experts in that you've watched 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:08.560 the show and I've heard of it. 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:11.079 Yeah, yeah, So I think all right, so let's get 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:14.440 into this episode two. You overall thoughts, you are still 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:16.800 you're not on board with the show. You're not okay, 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:18.079 It's okay again. 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:20.640 If they're going to be people backstabbing and backbiting, which 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:22.000 is what they did in Traders, do it with. 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:23.360 Fabulous costumes in a castle. 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:27.360 Wow, you know, I will say I very much like 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:30.520 the challenges, yeah, because I think those are really cool. 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:33.480 I think they're physical, but man, it really is also 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:37.440 showing you how it's like you need a big strong 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:41.240 person guy or girl on your team because when they're 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:43.440 luging the snake or doing that stuff, that's not for 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:44.120 the faint of heart. 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:45.640 This isn't super easy stuff. 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:48.600 So it's this isn't running through the woods trying to 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:52.680 lay Hey, there's gonna be bags of gold somewhere, like Traders. 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:56.320 This is like, that's why I just pale in comparison 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:56.800 to the Yah. 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:58.880 Yeah, so, and I think Traders needs that that needs 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:01.439 to be upgraded, and then the rest of the kind 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:03.439 of show of survivor a little bit and easy, Like 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:05.320 I'm wondering if I would have liked the earlier seasons 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:05.920 a little better. 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:07.040 I think so. 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:09.240 I think you're just yeah, I think you kind of 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:11.320 had this idea in your mind about like that Lord 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:14.760 of the Flies aspect, which just yeah. 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:17.000 It's not it's it's people kind of walking around and 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:17.840 just going. 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:18.559 Like we should be it. 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:20.640 I'm really interested to see how you feel though, because 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:24.760 you know, I think the while the pageantry of Traders 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:28.560 is like super fun, it also it also removes an 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:31.400 emotional element, you know, of the experience, like it's where's 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:34.240 this like by the end of the season, these people 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:35.360 have really been through it. 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:37.000 I mean you can. 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.520 I mean we can even talk about in our recap 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:41.520 right now, because you know the way that Genevieve is 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:44.280 just crying about Kyle, you know, and she says it, 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:47.360 She's like, it seems ridiculous that I'm crying about somebody 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:51.959 I just barely knew. But Survivor is so intense emotionally 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:55.400 and physically that they bond and they feel this like 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:58.800 you know, real connection with each other or hatred of 0:10:58.800 --> 0:10:59.160 each other. 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:00.000 Fifth that's the case. 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:02.200 And so I think it's I think there's a level 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:05.840 of intensity to just Survivor that I you know, in 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:10.200 the in the sort of parlor game like aspect, like 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:13.200 the fun of Traders was just like okay, yeah whatever, 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:16.000 like really actually even staying in this castle right Like, 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:18.040 So I don't know for me, I kind of like, 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:20.920 has there ever been like a fistfight on Survivor? 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:23.600 You know, I'm not sure. 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:26.680 Actually the only time I remember there was one challenge 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:29.960 and I think they only did it once, where they 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:33.360 basically created a game that was sort of like basketball 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:36.880 in the water where they just you know, one person 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:38.760 had to like carry a ball to a. 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:43.559 Net, you know, a net and sink it, and there was. 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:47.120 No other real rules, and it got so intense because 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:49.840 people were literally like trying to drown one another, you know, 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:50.480 like they were. 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:54.040 Like there was like no like it was such physical contact. 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:56.600 It basically became like ultimate fighter and it was like 0:11:56.800 --> 0:11:58.360 hold on, you know, and I think they had they 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:00.320 knew that they couldn't do it like it it's just 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:03.320 too dangerous. And and these people cared so much that 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:06.360 it did. It basically became like a fistfight or you know, 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:08.160 like I'm just going to take you out. And that 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:10.600 was like I think they clearly realized like no, no, no, no, 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:13.880 we can't. Like that has to be more sort of teamwork. 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:16.360 And then when the individual challenges are much more just 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:18.920 like can you hold onto a pole? Like that's my favorite. 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:22.000 There's one that says literally it's a like a telephone 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:25.319 pole and they just you just there's like little slots 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:27.760 on it, like little ridges, and just hold on. You 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:29.240 just hold on, And the whole thing is like how 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:31.240 do you hold on? And like some people like hug it, 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:33.640 some people are like holding them by the fingertips and 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:36.559 like that was one that like Ozzie did incredibly well, 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:38.440 like he just was comfortable just sitting up there. 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:39.520 And you just watch these people. 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:42.120 But it's so funny because everyone will be like fine, fine, fine, fine, 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:44.880 and then like at minute forty, everybody just falls apart. 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:47.200 It's like party, Yes, dude, they stayed up there for 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:49.480 like over a half an hour, no joke, just holding 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:50.160 onto a pole. 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:52.160 That's the individual challenges to get. 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:55.360 Really, it's it's so impressive what these people do and 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:56.319 what they put themselves through. 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:57.240 They really pushed them. 0:12:57.280 --> 0:12:59.800 So I started with a new personal trainer and sometimes 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:01.439 so go all right, just hold up your body weight, 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:04.160 and I'm like, thirty seconds in, I'm like there we go. Oh. 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:06.839 I think about like how I used to be able 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:09.040 to just do pull ups. Have you tried to pull up? 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:09.360 Oh? 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:11.480 Yeah, They're insane. They're it's insane. Like I don't think 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:12.400 I could do one anymore. 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:13.960 I used to be able to do like twelve, like 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:16.040 when I was a kid, teenager, just be like, yeah, 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:16.840 you know pull ups. 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:19.600 Now, I'm like, are you kidding me? It's insane? Yeah, 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:20.960 it's insane. All right. 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:23.840 So yeah, the episode begins with Kyle, you know, getting 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:28.360 pulled on day four and Genevieve crying, and then Q, 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:31.400 you know, talks about the fact that there his whole 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:34.120 plan is kind of wrecked because he's lost his vote. 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:37.240 Now Kyle, who is part of his alliance, is out Kobe. 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:41.320 Kobe couldn't vote. Yeah, Colby can't vote because he's lost, 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:43.520 can't vote right, and Q can't vote right, and so 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:44.120 you can't vote. 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:45.359 Yeah, they're really. 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:48.440 Not much sure of power alliance anymore. But anyway, they 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:52.560 decide to bring Rizzo in, which is interesting, Like Rizzo's 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:54.520 comes so, you know, and he admits he's like I 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:57.480 came into hyper and now I had to tone myself down. 0:13:57.520 --> 0:13:59.560 I think it's working, and it is like Colby's on 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:01.480 his side, which is super interesting. 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:02.640 But this isn't new. 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:05.520 This is also a generational thing because I'm guessing this 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:07.920 younger generation where they're like none of them are collecting sticks, 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:09.679 none of them are doing anything. They're just sitting around. 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:12.000 I bet you they wouldn't have lasted on the original 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:14.400 Survivor never That's what I mean. That's what I mean. 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:15.840 It's like, so you can just sit there and not 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:18.280 do anything, and it's just about like I got a 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:20.360 social game. And then I got to vote somebody off 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:22.000 and maybe I got to carry some stuff and that's 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:22.640 kind of it. 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:23.200 Yeah. 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:25.720 So yeah, it's more surviving the social aspect than it 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:27.280 is see it. To me, it should be like an 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:29.480 actual survivor thing at some point. 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:31.640 Yeah, I'm curious how you feel it by the end, though, 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:33.240 like do you go through? 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:35.800 Like I think what ended up happening was that the 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:39.960 survivor stuff overtook the show to a degree that it 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:42.760 wasn't even fun to watch anymore. It was like watching 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:45.840 people literally starve to death and be tortured alone and 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:48.960 it was like, I you know, like that's a lot, 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:49.480 it's heavy. 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:50.080 That's alone. 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:51.640 That's yeah, that's what it is. It's like it's more 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:52.880 endurance than it is social. 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:54.320 And I think there's a reason Alone is on a 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:57.400 much smaller network. Yeah, you know, like Survivors like one 0:14:57.400 --> 0:14:59.040 of the biggest hit shows of all time. And I 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:01.760 think it's because they figuregured out that like being able 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:03.840 to project and put yourself in there. 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:06.960 That exactly you know, which you can you can watch 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:08.680 it from your couch and go like I might be 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:10.560 able to do this, you might be able to do this, 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:12.480 and that is that's important in gaining an audience. It 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:13.280 truly is. 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:19.720 Over at Cela. There's his hysterical moment with Joan Christian 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:20.160 at the fire. 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:23.680 Oh and I knew this, did you. I saw his 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:25.920 face the second I thought he was. 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:26.760 Going to go throw up. 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:28.360 I was like, oh, no, this is and I was 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:30.520 worried because of course, if you start throwing up, like 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:32.600 if you know, that could be like dehydration. 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:35.800 I mean, even booping your pants is dehydration. But he 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:37.760 just himself. I was like, I know that. Look he 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:40.400 just shit himself. And he's like, are you okay? He's like, 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:42.800 I might be. I just need I need a second. 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:50.160 And then they blur his pants a blur hish like yeah. 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:51.920 And Alex was watching. She's like, that's why I won't 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:54.280 go and survivor because that would be me. That's what 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:56.720 would happen to me. And I couldn't live with myself. 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:59.240 And I just love that He finally just starts the camery. 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:01.040 He's like, my life is going to divorce me. 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:03.680 You're not gonna want to see this, I promise you. 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:06.800 I can't want to see this. I mean it sucks. 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:09.920 I do love him, though, I really like a lot 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:10.480 of people this. 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:14.880 Season, I genuinely enjoy these people, Like even Rizzo for 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:17.560 all of his like sort of self congratulatory and. 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:20.640 His laziness, I kind of find him entertaining. Tobody. 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:24.160 Yeah, everybody makes it a little bad about this being 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:26.080 the first season I've watched in season one because I 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:29.960 feel like part of this season, the character of the 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:33.680 show this season is the personalities coming in that you've 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:36.840 already watched doing this and the relationship they have to 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:39.960 one another, and so not knowing that, I feel like 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:41.400 I'm at a bit of a disadvantage. I was like 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:43.120 trying to explain to Sue last night what you were saying, 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:46.240 where I was like, Okay, so that's Coach and I 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:47.640 thought we liked him, but we don't. 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:49.160 He's apparently kind of a villain. 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:52.080 And that's c who we thought was the drummer from 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:55.080 from Toto, but it turns out he's actually a really 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:57.440 good player who keeps everybody alive. So it's like, yeah, 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:00.160 but so not knowing like any other year where it's 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:02.520