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Speaker 1: Welcome to Pod Meets Tworld, the podcast that once chronicled

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Speaker 1: two guys who had never seen Dancing with the Stars,

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Speaker 1: but watched a season and somehow walked away experts. From there,

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Speaker 1: we've entered into Traders, a show I'd never seen, but

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Speaker 1: Will swore he could win.

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Speaker 2: And now we turn.

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Speaker 1: To Survivor season fifty, the big One. This time the

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Speaker 1: roles are reversed. Will has seen exactly one season, the

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Speaker 1: first one. Meanwhile, I've watched for years. We are Wilfred Ell,

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Speaker 1: who prefers his wilderness with room service, and Ryder Strong,

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Speaker 1: who will hike any mountain but hates the beach. Two

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Speaker 1: best friends, one devoted to the comforts of civilization, one

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Speaker 1: who would never leave the woods if he could. Both

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Speaker 1: reality competition scholars join us as we dive into alliances,

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Speaker 1: blind sides, fire making, sand related misery, and twenty five

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Speaker 1: years of television history culminating in a single massive season.

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Speaker 2: This is Pod Meets Twirled Seeking immunity.

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Speaker 1: What what? What?

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Speaker 2: What was your impression of the Morning Zoo show that.

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Speaker 3: We would starting dingle in the dank.

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Speaker 2: It's ding in the morning.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna crank call puppets today. Yeah, I mean, maybe

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Speaker 1: we should just give up our Survivor recaps and just

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Speaker 1: go straight Morning Zoo radio show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I feel like we need like three more people,

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, yeah, and we need a soundboard.

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Speaker 1: And then like we have somebody that we always annoy

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Speaker 1: by calling, like your mom, you know, Criticle Will's mom

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Speaker 1: for her opinion, what she gotta say about this Will?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we got it, and oh I love it. Which

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Speaker 3: one's dingle and which one's the dank is the question.

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Speaker 3: We'll figure, we'll work.

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Speaker 2: We'll work shopping later. It's got to be your dingle

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Speaker 2: dingle And with me coming into you with Morning Wood.

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Speaker 1: Well, I know we annoyed a lot of our listeners

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Speaker 1: last week by our severe lack of Survivor knowledge.

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Speaker 2: That is the point of the show.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna remind you I have watched some Survivor.

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Speaker 1: I obviously haven't watched enough.

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Speaker 3: Did people not like it?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Just because yeah, I get.

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Speaker 1: It, Like, I'm sure if you actually keep up with

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Speaker 1: Survivor history and these contestants in particular, but we I'm yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've liked Survivor, but I've been a very casual watcher.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't keep track of all the rule changes,

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Speaker 1: it turns out that the New Era is actually just

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Speaker 1: that it's a shorter a shorter period of time there

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Speaker 1: on the island, Like they used to stay longer and

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Speaker 1: the game was slower to start, so like you didn't form,

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Speaker 1: like people just didn't play as aggressively. But in the

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Speaker 1: New Era, the game got condensed and there's just it's

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Speaker 2: So I'd like, I did read.

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Speaker 3: A couple of things where people said you were spot on

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Speaker 3: about certain things though, like the fact that apparently in

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Speaker 3: the early seasons they really concentrated on building the shelters

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Speaker 3: and getting food and the actual survivor aspect, right, this

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Speaker 3: is nothing to do with that, No, Well, in so.

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Speaker 1: They cut into a little bit about Raizo Bee and

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Speaker 1: lazy Yah, right, so they are doing stuff, they're just

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Speaker 1: not like editing my own you know, like yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: only editing those moments in if they play into the

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Speaker 1: social game strategy, right, Like they're not including because I

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Speaker 1: think people just got bored of like every season being

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm so hungry or I'm so cold.

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Speaker 1: But I also think maybe people stopped complaining because they

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Speaker 1: the survival aspect is so low priority nowadays.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. I mean I'm not fully in yet.

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Speaker 1: I'll be telling you because you prefer like Alan, where

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Speaker 1: it's really about what they're actually doing.

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Speaker 2: Make it what it's about.

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Speaker 3: If it's called survivor, then give them no food, give

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Speaker 3: work together as a community. We've got to do this

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Speaker 3: should we vote off?

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Speaker 2: Let's vote her off? No, I don't want to vote

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Speaker 3: Well, now we've got to go and do a challenge, okay,

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Speaker 3: And and the whole and I'm kind of going.

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Speaker 2: Like, is this it is?

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Speaker 2: Is this all they do? Yeah, it's it's more like

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Speaker 1: If you if you hear Jeff Probes especially talk about it,

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Speaker 1: it's he's always cause it a social experiment, right.

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Speaker 2: And that is.

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Speaker 1: It's it's more about like I think, yeah, they just

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Speaker 2: It's it's basically a game show with the with the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but the game show the game is very row physically,

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Speaker 3: I don't understand how people are not getting hurt.

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Speaker 2: Basically every episode.

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Speaker 3: I know, because they do a lot of stuff where

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Speaker 2: I mean, the people that like Cob Coby this is.

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Speaker 1: You know, my wife has talked about doing Survivor, and

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Speaker 1: But she's also can be machiavellian in the best way.

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Speaker 3: Though they've changed it to where like there's some some

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Speaker 1: She just doesn't want to, and she's like having to

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Speaker 2: She's like, she's just not this person. I think that

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Speaker 1: Like I just like I when I go into the woods,

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Speaker 1: he's like we're gonna be mountain biking this day. Then

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Speaker 1: plan smart now, No, I'm just I'm gonna try. But

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Speaker 2: Good. Where are you going near Santa Cruz? Okay?

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Speaker 3: Nice?

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Speaker 2: Nice? So out in the rare inviting me. I am

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Speaker 3: I'll do the drinking part, but I can do that here.

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Speaker 3: Are camping if there's if you don't have every streaming

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, So to be clear, we're gonna know

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Speaker 1: some survivor stuff. I cannot keep up with these characters.

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Speaker 1: I've definitely seen a lot of the seasons that these

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Speaker 2: Actually that's not true.

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Speaker 1: There was there was one period where I was in

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Speaker 2: Like, oh, you go to join so and so's league.

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Speaker 2: But the whole point was that you picked.

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Speaker 2: So those like three seasons I watched live.

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Speaker 1: Otherwise everything has been completely out of order, me and

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Speaker 3: I'm hoping most of our listeners are dear, dear listeners,

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Speaker 3: as Danielle would say, understand that when we say experts,

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Speaker 3: are actual experts survivor. We're experts in that you've watched

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Speaker 3: the show and I've heard of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So I think all right, so let's get

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Speaker 1: into this episode two. You overall thoughts, you are still

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Speaker 1: you're not on board with the show. You're not okay,

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Speaker 1: It's okay again.

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Speaker 3: If they're going to be people backstabbing and backbiting, which

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Speaker 3: is what they did in Traders, do it with.

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Speaker 2: Fabulous costumes in a castle.

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Speaker 3: Wow, you know, I will say I very much like

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Speaker 3: the challenges, yeah, because I think those are really cool.

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Speaker 3: I think they're physical, but man, it really is also

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Speaker 2: This isn't super easy stuff.

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Speaker 3: So it's this isn't running through the woods trying to

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Speaker 3: lay Hey, there's gonna be bags of gold somewhere, like Traders.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, They're insane. They're it's insane. Like I don't think

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Speaker 1: So yeah, the episode begins with Kyle, you know, getting

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Speaker 2: But this isn't new.

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Speaker 1: Like I think what ended up happening was that the

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, no, this is and I was

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Speaker 1: challenges in this.

443
00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:41,879
Speaker 2: Okay, never showed you what the reward was.

444
00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,439
Speaker 3: Well, they said it it's a tarp. Yeah, they get like,

445
00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,200
Speaker 3: oh I thought he just said it was an upgrade.

446
00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,040
Speaker 3: You're getting a camp upgrade. But he did just say

447
00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:49,280
Speaker 3: what it was. Did they say tarp?

448
00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:50,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he says it.

449
00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,399
Speaker 1: He says, Okay, it's like it's like a big tarp.

450
00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,879
Speaker 1: I think like blankets and pillows, Like, oh, maybe I

451
00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:56,760
Speaker 1: must have.

452
00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:57,240
Speaker 2: I didn't.

453
00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,800
Speaker 1: Yeah that I think that's one team. Remember if you

454
00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,120
Speaker 1: know at the end of the episode they have a hammock.

455
00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:03,920
Speaker 1: I think that's like, that's part of the kits.

456
00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,120
Speaker 3: You missed it too, because we were both like where

457
00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:07,040
Speaker 3: they get hammocks?

458
00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:11,239
Speaker 1: Like, okay, so there's there, there's two degrees. There's like

459
00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,200
Speaker 1: the you know, the luxury and then the less version.

460
00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's having a tarp, which becomes a big

461
00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,200
Speaker 1: deal for you know when it's rained.

462
00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,840
Speaker 3: Hell yes, absolutely, and hammocks would be huge because you're

463
00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,479
Speaker 3: not lying on the ground the whole time, like right,

464
00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,760
Speaker 3: being being above the nastiness and the sand and all

465
00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,880
Speaker 3: that stuff would feel like you were in a water.

466
00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,880
Speaker 2: Bed at that. Oh my god. Yeah alaxation. Yeah, be amazing.

467
00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,040
Speaker 1: So everyone finds out that Jenna was the one voted

468
00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,280
Speaker 1: out and Kyle was pulled from the game.

469
00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,040
Speaker 3: And way more They were way more upset about Kyle

470
00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:55,479
Speaker 3: being pulled than Jenna being voted out.

471
00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,400
Speaker 2: You notice that so true. So everyone was like, oh,

472
00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,720
Speaker 2: Jenna's gone. Then they were like Kyle, I know, Well,

473
00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:04,359
Speaker 2: it turns out Camilla played.

474
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,440
Speaker 1: They were Kyle and Camilla were like total allies in

475
00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,600
Speaker 1: season forty eight, so she really like starts, you know,

476
00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,080
Speaker 1: which is true because it's so interesting when you have

477
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,800
Speaker 1: those kinds of historical alliances in a game, like you know,

478
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,159
Speaker 1: or this early in the game. That's really part of

479
00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,639
Speaker 1: your plan is that eventually you might end up on

480
00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,959
Speaker 1: the same tribe together. So you really hope that like

481
00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 1: somebody you're aligned with is on another tribe working their

482
00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,160
Speaker 1: own game, and then you can merge your alliances when

483
00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:32,679
Speaker 1: the tribes merged.

484
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,640
Speaker 2: So you can see Camilla's you know, really bummed and understand.

485
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,960
Speaker 3: I also think there's a psychological aspect to it as well,

486
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:42,040
Speaker 3: where it's okay, there's things I can do to kind

487
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,480
Speaker 3: of stave off the possibility of being voted off of

488
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,359
Speaker 3: the island. I can win challenges, I can do whatever.

489
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,240
Speaker 3: Injuries can hit us anytime. Yeah, And it's like that

490
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,840
Speaker 3: could have been me so easily, And it's the worst

491
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,880
Speaker 3: way to go out because he's been there for three

492
00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,080
Speaker 3: days at that point, and he did something where he

493
00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,359
Speaker 3: needed surgery like two days later, so it was it

494
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,959
Speaker 3: was a significant injury. And I think there's something psychological

495
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 3: to that as.

496
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 1: Well, totally, And this is you know, going back to

497
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 1: your point about this season too.

498
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,200
Speaker 2: This season is a lot of older.

499
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,120
Speaker 1: People, Yeah, because of the returning champions and they've been around

500
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:12,920
Speaker 1: for I mean, you know, Jenna was twenty years ago

501
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 1: or whatever, twenty five years ago, so like that, because

502
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,680
Speaker 1: usually the game is mostly populated by like twenty somethings

503
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 1: and of course injuries people.

504
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh that's like that.

505
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 1: It's predominantly you like, there's always like a couple older people,

506
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,640
Speaker 1: like maybe in their forties and fifties, but like this

507
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,680
Speaker 1: seems like because you know, because they're bringing people back,

508
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,359
Speaker 1: it's like a majority. So even Ozzy, who's like, you know,

509
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,360
Speaker 1: physically in like great shape, he talks about how he

510
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 1: was like backspastmating after the supplies challenge, which then opens

511
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 1: the door for Coach to uh set the record straight.

512
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 1: Did he Well, I don't understand, Like it's city weird.

513
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 2: That's the thing.

514
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 1: It's like he describes exactly what he did, which is

515
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 1: pretty much as far as I can know, what is

516
00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 1: how Ozzi represented it.

517
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:00,920
Speaker 2: Too, right, Yeah, yeah, right in life.

518
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:05,159
Speaker 1: So it's really just that Coach assumed Ozzie was talking

519
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 1: shit about him, when actually Ozzie just described it exactly. Yeah,

520
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 1: as it happened, but for some reason, Coach saw that

521
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 1: as a dent to his you know, his honor, yeah,

522
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 1: which is hysterical because it's like, dude, the only dent

523
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,919
Speaker 1: you did it like you did the thing, which is

524
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 1: why I love Ozzie's response. It's like, I think he's

525
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 1: going to play the game exactly how he has.

526
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,919
Speaker 3: Always an like, I wish I knew then their relationship

527
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 3: because I know that because everyone was like.

528
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,640
Speaker 2: Oh, they're cutting to people going like oh, and.

529
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 3: I was like what what's Oh what what happened? So, yeah,

530
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 3: they have a history.

531
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 1: The thing about Coach, and I think what you know,

532
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 1: I find annoying ultimately is not so much like it's

533
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 1: not so much the way he plays, it's the way

534
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 1: he talks about himself, the way he plays like he

535
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 1: presents it as if he's this like honorable and lightened. Yes,

536
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 1: he's like the White Knight, and it's like, you're not, dude,

537
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 1: You're you're a manipulative.

538
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 2: Selfish, you know player, just like you.

539
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 1: Know, like you listen to the way that Devn's you know,

540
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 1: Rick Devans talks about, yeah, playing the game and it's

541
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 1: a realistic way to play, right, and like you may

542
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: not always agree with it, but it is realistic to

543
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to lie.

544
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 2: At some point to somebody's face. You're gonna have to

545
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 2: say that.

546
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 3: People were like, oh, wow, you lied on survivor Oh,

547
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 3: what are the chances of that? It's like part of

548
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 3: the game and so right, And I think Coach has

549
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 3: a tendency to minimize his own manipulation and make it

550
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 3: seem like he's an honorable player and that he's this

551
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 3: sort of and that's just it's douche twat behavior. Yes,

552
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 3: tp GtC, DTV, DTV is what it is.

553
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 2: Yes, DTV.

554
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 1: All right, so we've after this you know, weird moment

555
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,360
Speaker 1: where Coach decides to like toot his own horn and

556
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 1: say exactly what everyone kind of already knew. They get

557
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 1: into this challenge, which is opens with like one of

558
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 1: my favorite things like this smash this, Like doesn't it

559
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 1: look so satisfying? Does?

560
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,360
Speaker 3: And you smash it then you land in the water afterwards, yes,

561
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 3: oh yeah.

562
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 1: And it was like it was just like so much

563
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 1: fun until I saw Aubrey miss it and then I

564
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 1: was like that would be me, and I must feel

565
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 1: like such shit.

566
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 2: He was the only one who's sportsball.

567
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 3: He was also the only one who did this is where.

568
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 4: We need the Oh no, yeah, it's also but the

569
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 4: thing they plan these things really well, because I was thinking,

570
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 4: if you do miss it like she did, all your

571
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 4: momentums going forward and you are full.

572
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 3: Belly flop yep, which is exactly what happened to her.

573
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 1: So I was in an acting class in Berkeley when

574
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: I was a teenager like Wright, right when Boy Meets

575
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: World started, and then I would go back and visit

576
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 1: every once.

577
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:38,640
Speaker 2: In a while.

578
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 1: And there was a guy in that class who was

579
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: one of His name is Miles, and he was hysterical

580
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 1: and a very good improviser, and he reached out to

581
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 1: me through Facebook, I want to say, in two thousand.

582
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 2: And eight or nine whenever, the last time I was.

583
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: On Facebook, and he was working with a company. He

584
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: had a company where they designed the games for some

585
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 1: cool challenges.

586
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 2: I know that would be fun. I want to reach

587
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 2: out to him.

588
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: I want to try and find him because I'm pretty

589
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: sure I remember his last name where I can figure

590
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: it out and if he's still doing that, or even

591
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: if not, we should have him on to just talk

592
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: about it, because.

593
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 2: How cool would that be?

594
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: As a job like to just you get your friends

595
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,439
Speaker 1: together and you have to and you know, and obviously

596
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: they have to run it and figure out, like, you know,

597
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: how to dial in the difficulty, because like it seems

598
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: pretty fair, right, Like yes, the way that these challenges

599
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 1: are worked out, You're like, yeah, like even if you

600
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 1: suck at one aspect of it, you can make it

601
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: up with another.

602
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,360
Speaker 2: Like they do such a good job with these challenges.

603
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 3: I just well, when you got I mean, the second

604
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 3: challenge is the perfect example when you go, you know,

605
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 3: which we'll get to. But when you go from having

606
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 3: to carry something really heavy hue then having to be

607
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 3: delicate with these strings to do something else, it's too

608
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 3: completely different skill sets. So yeah, it's I think they

609
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 3: do their keeping it fair.

610
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 2: Yep.

611
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 1: So they got to smash the tiles to get the

612
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 1: key and walk across this like balance being without falling,

613
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: and then uh into the water right dive back into

614
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 1: the water to like release the rings square hikes, and

615
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: they got to go deep.

616
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 2: You see how deep they have to go? Yeah?

617
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, And dude, there have been people on previous seasons

618
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,439
Speaker 1: who like aren't great swimmers, and I'm.

619
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 2: Like, why are you doing well? That's what I was thinking.

620
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 3: I was thinking to myself, I'm like, I wear one

621
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 3: glass contact lens. I cannot open my eyes underwater or

622
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 3: it's sucked out of my eye.

623
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 2: Have done him? Yeah, so what do I do?

624
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: I've wondered about that, like with the with the context thing,

625
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: like I'm not because there was one season where they

626
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 1: actually they eliminated a guy if I'm remembering quickly, because

627
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: he had decided to go off his antidepressants and they.

628
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 2: Were like, that's too big of a risk for us.

629
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can see that. Yeah, And they talk about

630
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,479
Speaker 3: that like in the in the in the like as

631
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 3: in the Tribal Council, it's like, we're getting rid of

632
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 3: you because you went off of your men.

633
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 2: The show got rid of him.

634
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 1: Oh, the show came in and said, hey, we've because

635
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: he had updated his medical like you know it's intake

636
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: or whatever, and said, no, I decided to go off

637
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: my medication the course that I'm on this, And they

638
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 1: were like, that's kind of too big of a deal

639
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 1: because if you become depressed or suicidal or like if

640
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,199
Speaker 1: they're your brain chemistry is not what you've represented it as, Like,

641
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: that's a risk for us. As a hell show. Yeah,

642
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: like super interesting and so I'm always so. But what

643
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 1: that revealed to me is like the questions of like, yeah,

644
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: like because you see some people wearing glasses, right, I'm like,

645
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 1: could you wear contacts? Like I have monthly contacts, but

646
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: I still have to take them out every night. Yeah,

647
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 1: and so I would have to just wear glass.

648
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 3: And then it's like I can't wear glasses because I

649
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 3: have it's a medical reason that I have my one

650
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 3: eye and like glass eye, as you and Daniel like

651
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 3: to point out.

652
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 2: So it's like that's what I thought about.

653
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 3: It's like, well, I couldn't be the one to dive

654
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 3: under the water to get something because I can't see underwater.

655
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: And I wonder, like, you know, one of my good

656
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: friends has diabetes and he's like super physical, right, you

657
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: know he needs an injection every day.

658
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so could he do survivor would they allow him to?

659
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 3: Like probably maybe if they have the medical because I

660
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 3: mean we showed they showed in this episode specifically, which

661
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 3: I found was really interesting, which I'm sure which we're

662
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 3: definitely gonna get to that medical or somebody's there to

663
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,719
Speaker 3: save you instantly, yeah, right, like they're right there so

664
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 3: I imagine, you know, you could get an insolent shot

665
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 3: a day kind of thing.

666
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: It's right, that's what I would I would assume that

667
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: like it to the level of playing field to a

668
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: certain degree, right, Like, they're not gonna let people starve,

669
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 1: but those who shouldn't let somebody. But then again, if

670
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: you're not capable of surviving on a beach, right like,

671
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 1: you know, somebody who can't walk, let's say, right, like, that.

672
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 2: Would be just too hard. So or even smaller, somebody

673
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 2: who has asthma.

674
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like, if you have you have a

675
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 3: bad asthma attacker, you're inhaler.

676
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: This is probably one of those moments where everyone's gonna

677
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 1: be like, what are you Yes, they know exactly exactly

678
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: what the rules are.

679
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 2: And uh, we're not going to look them up. We're

680
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 2: just gonna pretend like we know everything exactly.

681
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: Challenge starts, they get the It's fun to watch everyone

682
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: does pretty well.

683
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. The one thing I do like.

684
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,719
Speaker 3: About this is that it seems like they are all

685
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 3: pretty close. Yeah, you know, It's it's never like, okay,

686
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 3: well they vatsu, which is not going to kiss one.

687
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: These You really know, there are times when people are like,

688
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: I did not realize this show would be so hard.

689
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: Like there was a season I think it was forty

690
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: seven or forty eight where for like, I think the

691
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: first time, two different people just dropped out. Really they

692
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: were just like, this is too hard. I don't want

693
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: to do this. You guys can vote me out.

694
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: And everyone's like, okay, I'm telling you. It's generational.

695
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: It is at that time, it was very generational. They

696
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: were definitely younger like, and they were just like and

697
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: We're like.

698
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 2: What did you expect?

699
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, they expected a TikTok real and to get famous.

700
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 2: That's what they expected. That's what they expected.

701
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 3: And then it's like, oh, wait, you need me to

702
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 3: be Sandy and grab firewood.

703
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 2: I can't do that. I've never lifted anything in my

704
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 2: life but my phone.

705
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

706
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it was hard to watch, man.

707
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: It was, you know, because I felt sorry for them

708
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: a little bit. But then you're also like, what did

709
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: you expect?

710
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 2: Like this is kind of and I.

711
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 3: Also I always look at it like this because they

712
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 3: do this in the UFC too, where and it's one

713
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 3: of the things that president of the UFC hates the

714
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 3: most is you have to make weight and it's like,

715
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 3: if you don't make weight, you can't fight. And the

716
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 3: thing that pisses them off so much is like, do

717
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 3: you realize you just took the place of somebody that

718
00:29:59,280 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 3: would have worked there?

719
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 2: Ass off right here.

720
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 3: So it's like you came here, you you made it

721
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 3: on Survivor, and now you're going to tap out because

722
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 3: it's a little hard. You know how many thousands of

723
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 3: people would love to take your place. Yeah, and so

724
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 3: it's like, dude, that's just not cool.

725
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, I guess that's worse than pooping your

726
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: pants on Survivor.

727
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 3: Dude, if you can't poop your pants on National Provision.

728
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: Oh but you just know that for the rest of

729
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: his life, everyone's going to be like, which one was Christian?

730
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the guy who shoot his pants.

731
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,959
Speaker 1: Oh wait, that's why he just knows. It's like, no

732
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: matter what he does the rest of the season. Oh,

733
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: he's smart guy, poopy pants, smart guy. He started a

734
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: fire with glasses for the first time. No one's gonna

735
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: remember that. I already forgot that he would only call

736
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: him Christian poopy pans.

737
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, he's Piggy from Lord of the Rings.

738
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: Oh, I love him all right, I love come on,

739
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: he's my favorite.

740
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 3: I want poopy pants.

741
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 2: Cela wins uh and uh Kalo win second.

742
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: So over Vatu Genevieve is drinking this sour coconut water

743
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: and trying to convince.

744
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 3: Them like coconut comes in different flavors. That just sounds

745
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 3: like that's a bad coconut.

746
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I totally. And this is where Aubrey has

747
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: this moment. She's like, I'm surrounded by lunatics, which is

748
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: super interesting because I really did like Aubrey from her season.

749
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: You know, as I've talked about her last she was

750
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: very much like the underdog in that situation, and she win.

751
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 2: She was in the top three. I don't know if

752
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 2: I can't honestly, I see this is the thing. I

753
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: can't remember, shit, man.

754
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: But I do know that she did very well and

755
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: was sort of one of these people that you didn't

756
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: expect because she physically wasn't like really aggressive and didn't

757
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: feel comfortable on the beach and all these ways, and

758
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: very similar to the way she's acting in this one.

759
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: But but you know her, she's sort of just an

760
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: odd person, you know, like she's just a little like

761
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: and you can see that like Genevieve is already like, uh,

762
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: you know, not trusting her, and then they decide to

763
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: go through her bad.

764
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 3: It seems like, I just know, man, super invasive to.

765
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 2: Me, and I love that.

766
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: They even say, this makes you a dirty, rotten you

767
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: know whatever, but we're doing it anyway.

768
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

769
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 3: Well, they're like, if you do this on the street,

770
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 3: you're the worst person in the world. But here on Survivor,

771
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 3: you kind of gotta do what you gotta do. Do people,

772
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 3: can you steal other people's shit and destroy their stuff? Then,

773
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 3: I mean, is that all legal?

774
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 2: Kind of?

775
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's sort of like you know, I mean,

776
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: you had people be like get caught going through other

777
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: people's stuff, using other people' stuff and getting very upset

778
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:28,959
Speaker 1: about it.

779
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 2: They're being confrontations, I.

780
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: Mean, you know, but it just really is up to

781
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: the tribe to how they want to manage these kinds

782
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: of things.

783
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 2: I find it interesting that.

784
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: Everybody's against Aubrey, Like I couldn't believe that no one

785
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: person was like, well, she's on my you know, like

786
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: she and I have an alliance and defending her, and no,

787
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: they're all like the whole rest of the tribe is

788
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: like coordinating, who's going to look out, who's going to distract?

789
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 2: Well, we like go through her crap. I was like, yeah, man,

790
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 2: that's not a good sign.

791
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: You know, like if you don't have somebody having your back,

792
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: she's going to be very alone. Turns out to be,

793
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: you know, not that big of a as big of

794
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: a deal because she gets that boomerang. Yeah, billy idol,

795
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: Billy idol. But we'll get we'll get to that, all right.

796
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 2: So Jonathan the Beast, the he man, super Jesus.

797
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 3: I mean just every time I look at him, I

798
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 3: feel less and less like a man, every single month.

799
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 3: God and again, another forty five minutes trying to find

800
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 3: those pants and I can't find him. I don't I

801
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 3: almost I just how do I do a Google image search?

802
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 3: Because I don't know how to do that. So I

803
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 3: took a snapshot of him because you can't find just like, no, it'smatched,

804
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 3: not those I want to find those. You find patchwork pants,

805
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 3: but I can't find those. I need someone to find

806
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 3: those specific pants for me, and then I get them

807
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 3: in little boy sizes which would fit me. But that's

808
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 3: what that's that's what I.

809
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 2: Was so huge, it's huge and just a beast too.

810
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: I mean, just that's the guy.

811
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 3: He'd be my first pick. That's the guy you want.

812
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: On your team.

813
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 3: Yep.

814
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: So he's out fishing and coach goes with them and

815
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: gets this crazy cramp and it's legs, which is just like, dude.

816
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 3: Have you ever had one? You ever had a cramp

817
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 3: in doing something where you literally can't walk? No, they

818
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 3: incapacitate you. You have one is bad enough where your

819
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 3: whole muscle is twitching and you can't put any weight

820
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 3: on it. So while you're swimming. Was it was not hyperbole?

821
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 3: You get that when you're by yourself, you could.

822
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 2: Easily drown and die.

823
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 3: He'sa because you can't move your legs.

824
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 2: It's horrible.

825
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 3: So that's when I was like, oh, smart, they've got

826
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 3: there's a boat like ten seconds away, which makes total

827
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 3: sense of.

828
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I mean, you're in the ocean, man, somebody yeah,

829
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 1: just it only takes like thirty seconds and somebody's gone.

830
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

831
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: It's just so intense to see like nothing happening. You know,

832
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 1: it looks like nothing's wrong.

833
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 2: The poor guy could yeah. Yeah, awful.

834
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: All right Over at Cela, aussye uh pitches an alliance

835
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: to Devon's and Savannah and says he wants Joe to

836
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: be a part of it as well. And then there's

837
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: this moment with Devon's and uh and Joe because like

838
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: Devon's whispers to Savannah or Savannah whispers to Devon's and

839
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: then Joe is like, you right, Devon's lies pretty poorly.

840
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: It's oh he's terrible.

841
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, my god, he lies as bad as Candice did

842
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 3: on on Traders.

843
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then it gets into this whole interesting thing.

844
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: And this is where you know, I think you asked,

845
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 1: can you play honorably? And you can see how actually

846
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 1: playing honorably makes it harder sometimes a total detriment.

847
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 2: Everyone's like, I can't, I can't take his honorable Well,

848
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 2: you can see it's annoying.

849
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: Joe's like he's like basically not accepting the terms of

850
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 1: the game, you know. And this is what I felt

851
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: this a little bit with Traders sometimes when people are

852
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 1: like you're a snake and you're like that literally is

853
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,439
Speaker 1: the name of the game. Like it's yeah, so it's

854
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: sort of the same thing. But I just love what

855
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: Christian is like, we need we need a jotation to

856
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: keep an eye on.

857
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 3: So it was like, I love when Devon's was just

858
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 3: like I think it was. Devon's was just like, yeah, uh,

859
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 3: it's Survivor. You don't go up to somebody and ask

860
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 3: what they're whispering about. You just assume that somebody's gonna

861
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 3: whisper to somebody else. We're playing Survivor, like.

862
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: It compares it to football, right, And he's like, you

863
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: don't say, like, don't touch anybody.

864
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 2: We don't want to hurt anybody. That's what you mean,

865
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 2: it's what you do. I love that it's so true.

866
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: It's yeah, you know, and you can see like it's yeah,

867
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: I hope Joe adjusts because he's a really good guy.

868
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 2: You know, it's a firefighter.

869
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: Yes, but it's that like straightforward. I mean, that's kind

870
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: of the way I feel like I would end up

871
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: being like.

872
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 3: Yes, But I mean the difference is it seems like

873
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 3: he's that guy who talks like that and really lives that,

874
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 3: where coach talks like that but doesn't actually live that way.

875
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: It perfectly, but I totally agree, you know, but it's

876
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: interesting because it's probably gonna hurt more than coach. My

877
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: coach's strategy is actually gonna probably work and keep him

878
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: in the game.

879
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 2: I know, guys do finish. Last Man's terrible.

880
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: And that's what he says because he really did get

881
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: screwed over by Colin Camilla in his season so references.

882
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 3: I wish I knew what that meant, but it sounds

883
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 3: like he was in an alliance with two people that

884
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 3: he trusted you just screwed.

885
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: But you can just see he puts his heart out

886
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: there right like he is. He is so like if

887
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: I trust you, I trust you.

888
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 2: It's you know, it reminds me.

889
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: There have been a couple cops and firefighters over the

890
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: years and it always it's so interesting because it really

891
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: does remind me my father. My father has this this way.

892
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: It's something that I think comes with the territory of

893
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: being a cop or a firefighter where you're dealing with

894
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: people in really high stressed situations like all the time, right,

895
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: and you have to be the voice of authority to

896
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: like calm them down or to give them horrible news,

897
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: you know, like we lost you your partner in the

898
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: fire or somebody. This person's not coming back. We try

899
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: to resuscitate them. And so like my dad has this

900
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: way of speaking that is like very clear it's very forthright,

901
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: and I've always really appreciated that, you know, like it's

902
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: it's a it's a powerful thing to be able to say, like, hey,

903
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: I'm not lying to you, I am being straight with you,

904
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm not going to sugarcoat things. And I

905
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: can see Joe doing that and I do really like it.

906
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 2: But you can see, man, it's going to drive they might.

907
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 3: They consider voting him out because of it, because I

908
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 3: know it's awesome. But what exactly what you're talking about

909
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 3: when it comes to the trust thing with police officers

910
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 3: and firefighters too, Like the people that you're with are

911
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 3: could save your life.

912
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 2: Yes, I need to trust you.

913
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 3: I'm going to run into a burning building and I

914
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 3: need to know that you're right behind me. Yes, And

915
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 3: I don't I'm not going to look back. I just

916
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 3: know you're there.

917
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: Right.

918
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 2: It's military too, right, Military is too very similar.

919
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: It's like a hundred and it's like you have to

920
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 1: have this value system of like absolute clarity and reliance

921
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: on one another that you know most of us don't have.

922
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 1: And in survivor it seems like it's actually a weirdly

923
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: a liability, which is you know, it's different from seasons.

924
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: There have been other seasons where I'm sure that people

925
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: do want to play that way, but in this case, man,

926
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 1: you're dealing with a lot of really really smart game players,

927
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: so they're gonna they're gonna, yeah, all right over at

928
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,919
Speaker 1: Vatu Riza and Angelina.

929
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 2: Me and Lazy.

930
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 3: It just really upset just sitting around like they're not

931
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 3: doing anything.

932
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that would drive me crazy.

933
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 3: I can be I can be lazy as the next

934
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 3: guy unless there's people around me.

935
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 2: Counting on me, and then I'm gonna find something to do, right. Yeah.

936
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: And it's funny because like this actually hasn't happened that much,

937
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: Like they don't talk about like I feel like most seasons,

938
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: everybody's pretty much pulled their weight. Like there have been

939
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: whole seasons where like an entire tribe just doesn't even

940
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: build their shelter and they screw yeah, like they're just

941
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: like late, like the whole tribe is later. They just

942
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: want to like swim and hang out. But I feel

943
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 1: like that's happened less and less. It seems like mostly

944
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: people know, like they come on, they got to take

945
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: care of their crap, keep everybody else happy, provide something

946
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: to the tribe. But in this case it's it's I

947
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: was shocked to see that the younger people were not

948
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: doing anything.

949
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 2: It's like, guys do something. Well, yeah, the younger generation.

950
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: Sorry, all right now, the immunity challenge taking place in

951
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: the jungle, this two hundred pounds survivor snake bringing it

952
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 1: back through a set of obstacles that just looked miserable. Yes, yeah, dude,

953
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: when you have to crawl through the sand like that,

954
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: I'm always just like noth.

955
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 3: Thanks through the sand through a net. Yeah, that's the

956
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 3: a weighted net. And that was the first thing you

957
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 3: had to do with this giant snake. I mean that

958
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 3: looked that was crazy to me.

959
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 2: Crazy.

960
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,919
Speaker 1: Then they have to do this crazy ball challenge thing

961
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: with three of them. Basically it's sort of like a

962
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: human video game, right, like like like how do we

963
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: keep this ball from you know, but having to like

964
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: learn to control it together.

965
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 3: Well, don't you remember the game at the where you

966
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 3: might you might have been too young, but I doubt it.

967
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 2: We were close enough in age.

968
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 3: It's you had the metal ball at the top, and

969
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 3: you had the two metal long metal things and you.

970
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 2: Had to kind of I don't even know how to describe.

971
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 3: You have to manipulate the ball around the around the

972
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 3: thing that then drop it in the hole. No, if

973
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 3: there's two long metal pipes like this and then a

974
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 3: ball at the top and you can't let the ball drop,

975
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 3: you have to like manipulate the things down and then

976
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 3: move it over and drop it in a hole.

977
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 2: So it was like the adult version of that essentially. Yeah, yeah, yeah, super.

978
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: Cool, super cool because they have to work together. Yes,

979
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: it's like it's not an individual puzzle. It's like, yeah,

980
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: we have to like all be and it's I love that.

981
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 2: I love that. It was all about communication.

982
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 3: But it's also not only is about communication, but the

983
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 3: way you win this game is somebody needs to take

984
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 3: charge and everybody else needs to shut.

985
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 2: Their mouth and listen to that one person. Yeah, because

986
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 2: it's like.

987
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 3: I need you to be all right, listen, you need

988
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 3: to go here, you need to go. If you're going

989
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go here, No I'm gonna go it's never

990
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 3: gonna work. Yeah, So you gotta almost instantly select the

991
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 3: leader and then listen to that person.

992
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: Really interesting And but wasn't it interesting how much like

993
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: Rizzo came through in this part of the game.

994
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 2: He was great, you know, it was like great, yeah. Yeah.

995
00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: So when they get to the snakes by the way,

996
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: did you notice that to untie them? Yes, Okay, So

997
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 1: this is something that Alex that I've always said, there's

998
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: a lot of knots in Survivor, and we've always said

999
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 1: since we first started watching, is like the first thing

1000
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: I would do to trade for Survivor is sit around

1001
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: untied knots all the day because they have to. And

1002
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: and like there were there have been seasons where it's

1003
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: like literally the whole challenge is just like ten minutes

1004
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 1: of not untied. And there have been like I think

1005
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 1: Charlie was the one I was talking about who who

1006
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: who worked up certain muscles like he also there have

1007
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: been people who have like built just not mazes in

1008
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: their house to like work their way through to.

1009
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 2: Like get good at it.

1010
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 3: So I mean certain knots that if you recognize them,

1011
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 3: you tug them a certain way and they instantly unfold,

1012
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 3: like totally.

1013
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: But I think the way these are is just literally

1014
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: like it's just a time consuming thing to slow you down.

1015
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 2: So just you have to get a lot of keys.

1016
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:48,919
Speaker 3: I noticed that too, Like now you got to open

1017
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 3: the lock, and do this because it's like, okay, little

1018
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 3: little pitoy things that can take a lot of time.

1019
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 2: Exactly, and we screw you up, you know, on top

1020
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 2: of you know.

1021
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: All the physical Yeah, so uh, Colby really makes up

1022
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: for Rizzo having a slow start. Beast Jonathan does a

1023
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 1: dive bomb roll with the snake.

1024
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 2: Did you notice the thing like outside the ropes?

1025
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: I like this guy literally looks like the Hulk if

1026
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: he had green skin. He has the Hulk's body, just like.

1027
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: He reminds me of Jason Momoa, like an actual mom Yeah.

1028
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like, dude, first say.

1029
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,919
Speaker 3: I want that guy, then I want somebody who's really

1030
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 3: good with strategy.

1031
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 2: Those two people are my first twopics. Yeah, and well

1032
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 2: he and Rizz are on the same team.

1033
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, so Sila loses this challenge, I guess really

1034
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: bumps me out.

1035
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 3: Man.

1036
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: Again, that's two in a row.

1037
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: You know, and I love everybody on that team, Yeah,

1038
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 1: I really do.

1039
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 2: So this is a bummer for me.

1040
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: I mean I in general, like I said, in general,

1041
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: I really like a lot of people this season, but

1042
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: Silla is like kind of all of my favorites.

1043
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 2: I really like that Syrian Ozzie have.

1044
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: Each other's back, because that's like a combom Like it's

1045
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: a magical combo.

1046
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 2: That's really cool. The two of them together too.

1047
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 3: She you know again, I'm getting to learn all these characters.

1048
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 3: She works a room so freaking well, dude, she just

1049
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 3: drops one or two nuggets and she walks perfectly.

1050
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: She's like, I let them come up with the strategy.

1051
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: That really I basically Jedi mind tricked them into.

1052
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 3: Y it's she's so you know, you don't need to

1053
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 3: see my identification, these aren't.

1054
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 2: She's amazing.

1055
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 1: Look, but then she's even more amazing to me? Was

1056
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: that Emily and who who was supposed to? Like Savannah

1057
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: and Emily figure that out. They're like, oh, series protecting Aussie,

1058
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 1: so like they're also like four dimensional chess playing.

1059
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 3: Everybody's getting it all the time. It must just be

1060
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 3: because you're just heightened. It's like traders, the anxiety and

1061
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 3: paranoia you must feel every freaking day. What did that

1062
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 3: look mean? What did that person say? Why are they

1063
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 3: walking and getting sticks together? Where's my bag? My bag

1064
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 3: wasn't over there? It must be insane.

1065
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I'm I really just felt sorry for

1066
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: them having to vote somebody out. It sucks, you know

1067
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: because I like everybody partners where it's like like like partners,

1068
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 1: where you're going on to survivor knowing for a fact

1069
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: that there's one person that has your back. Like it's like,

1070
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,919
Speaker 1: well there was a mother daughter team where the daughter

1071
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: voted her mom out. No, yeah, yeah, it's like a

1072
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: legendary moment. Yeah, they have brought people in, Like I'm

1073
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: not sure if they did it as overall as a

1074
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: whole season. I think that maybe had been the case,

1075
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: but certainly, Yeah, there have been those kinds of things.

1076
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: I think they end up separating them early on and

1077
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 1: then you know, you find you get back together.

1078
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 3: But I vote for your mom, dude.

1079
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 2: It's hardcore.

1080
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 3: Is an uncomfortable Thanksgiving.

1081
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,919
Speaker 1: Or you know, you just know that, like she would

1082
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: do the same to you if it meant, you know,

1083
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: winning a million dollars.

1084
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 3: Or not.

1085
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:56,919
Speaker 2: Before.

1086
00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 3: If you've got to vote me out, vote me out,

1087
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 3: we split the money whatever, one of us.

1088
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 2: Yes, you have to understand the game. That's that's what

1089
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 2: they didn't like about.

1090
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: That Trader scenario where it was like, well, we know

1091
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: each other, we would never let's say, but then you

1092
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: would be playing the game horribly.

1093
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you're right, you be breaking the rules of

1094
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 2: the game.

1095
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 3: So we kind of saw that with H with Tara

1096
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 3: and uh yeah, Johnny.

1097
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, so Joe, Uh you know is H. I

1098
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: love him, but he's got a problem, like he's struggling

1099
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: like getting people to like him, or if people just

1100
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: want to deal with his like yeah, aggressive honor, like

1101
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: you go to be this way. Sirie really does like

1102
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: manage to get everybody off of Ozzy, which is so cool.

1103
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 3: I don't know if they edit it this way or

1104
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 3: if she just dropped two or three quick things, quick

1105
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 3: nuggets and everyone was like, she's right, yeah, because it

1106
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 3: seemed instantaneous.

1107
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: Well, I don't think anybody really wanted to vote out

1108
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 1: Azzy because they want to. They they need to win

1109
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: challenges in order to to not be in the situation.

1110
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: So you don't want to vote out somebody who's physically

1111
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: giving you a huge leg up like he is, and

1112
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: he's also feeding them you.

1113
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 3: Know, hey Fishes, he's a monster in these challenges too.

1114
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 2: That's the thing.

1115
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: You just don't You don't want to vote him out

1116
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: except that he might win the game. So it's like

1117
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: that weird thing of like at what point do we

1118
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: blindside Ozzie. It's kind of the question, like, and this

1119
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: is what.

1120
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 3: Ben was telling us, where he's like the but the

1121
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 3: way you're supposed to play traders is you figure out

1122
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 3: who you know the trader is going to be, then

1123
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 3: keep them there till the end.

1124
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 2: Exactly, So exactly that same kind of thing.

1125
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ozzie decides to give Suri his extra vote as

1126
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: a thank you, which I thought was so sweet.

1127
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 2: I love this partner. So, man, okay, this is this

1128
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 2: was I'm trying to figure out the rules.

1129
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 3: He has an idol, yes, that was, so he can't

1130
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 3: be voted out. He's got the boat the boomerang if

1131
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 3: he can't be voted out if he ras yes, And

1132
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:49,959
Speaker 3: and he had an extra vote, so he had two

1133
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 3: things yes, and he decided to give one to si yep, gotcha.

1134
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: And Soria has played Survivor five times and has never

1135
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: had her own advantage, which is amazing, Which is amazing,

1136
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: Like that's yeah, yeah.

1137
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 3: So did we talk about how poopy Pants found an

1138
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 3: idol to get it?

1139
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 2: Okay, I gotcha? Cutover, cut over to the Christian.

1140
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 1: Well, actually sorry, it's at the same tribe where he's

1141
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: he's I just love that he's like literally rocking Joe

1142
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: in the hammock to like.

1143
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,399
Speaker 2: Calm him down, and you'd be like.

1144
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: Well, maybe we're playing the game correctly, and you could

1145
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: just see like he's basically like rock Joe.

1146
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 2: That's so good. That's what I mean.

1147
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: I love everybody on this drive because you know, when

1148
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: they're like actually having to be against each other, they're

1149
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: still trying to be so nice about it, and they're

1150
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: all like, uh god, but yeah. But then poopy Pants

1151
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: uh finds an idol, which.

1152
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 3: Is just find an idol. Their faces when they light up.

1153
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's amazing.

1154
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 2: It's so fun to watch.

1155
00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,959
Speaker 3: It's a meme every time they find an idea.

1156
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1157
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: So he finds another Billie Eilish boomerang idol, which we

1158
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:09,240
Speaker 1: were affectionately referring to as the Billy idol, the Billy idols,

1159
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 1: the Billy idol, and he decides to give it to Aubrey,

1160
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: which is super interesting that he into it's basically from

1161
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: Aubrey's previous gameplay that she is a strategist who could

1162
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: probably use it because and she really could use it.

1163
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: And I think it's hysterical that they searched her back

1164
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: for an idol, and if it had happened after she

1165
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,720
Speaker 1: could have potentially they could have potentially found her idol

1166
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: before she did, because they actually hid the idol in

1167
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: her bag. Yeah, so she just opened her bag and

1168
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, there's an idol in here.

1169
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 2: So it's so interesting that that question.

1170
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you if they, let's say, for the sake

1171
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 3: of argument, they opened her bag and they found the idol,

1172
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 3: can they take it or is it her idol?

1173
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 2: It's she has to train for.

1174
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: It has to Okay, then somebody can feel it from you, gotcha, gotcha? No,

1175
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: but you can transfer Sometimes you can't transfers. I think

1176
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: in this case you can't. I think they might have

1177
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: said that you can't give it to anybody else.

1178
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 3: No, you had you had to give it to somebody

1179
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 3: that wasn't in your tribe, and then it comes back

1180
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 3: to you if they're voted off with it in their pocket.

1181
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 2: But I also think there's a rule that they can't

1182
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 2: give it to anybody else. No, they can't. It's it's

1183
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 2: it's there because normally if.

1184
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: You just find like a full idol on your beach,

1185
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: like there have been seasons where all there are is

1186
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: just like you know, an idol, and you find it,

1187
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:30,959
Speaker 1: you can hand that to somebody.

1188
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 2: Else, gotcha.

1189
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: There have also been instances, and this is my favorite,

1190
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 1: where people make fake idols.

1191
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 3: Well they did it this week.

1192
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, Well we haven't seen exact I didn't understand

1193
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: what was going on, and I'm still very curious what

1194
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: they're doing. But yeah, but there have been times when

1195
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: somebody's made a fake idol, told somebody that they have it,

1196
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: and given it to them and said you can use this,

1197
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: and then that poor person has gone to play it

1198
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: and been told, like Jeff Probe's like hands is this

1199
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: is not a real immunity idol, and then the poor

1200
00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: person gets voted out.

1201
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 2: It's so much, Oh my god. So he tells them

1202
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 2: after they.

1203
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: Because they play it, they like announce I'm gonna play

1204
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: my idol and then they have to.

1205
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 2: Give it to Jeff. And Jeff knows because he's you know,

1206
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:12,439
Speaker 2: on the producer oriel side.

1207
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: He's kept track of what is a real idol and not,

1208
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: and he's been able to like look at some beaded

1209
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: thing that somebody's put together by collecting rocks and stuff

1210
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 1: they've made idols, and he'll just be like, that's not

1211
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: a real idol, and then that poor person doesn't you know, they'll.

1212
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 3: Just go It seems like they should be They should

1213
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 3: tell them when they go to play it, not after

1214
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 3: they've been voted out.

1215
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 2: Oh that's so mean. Why wouldn't you.

1216
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 3: Just do that all the time, Like, hey, dude, you're

1217
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 3: you're you're immune.

1218
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 2: Here's an idol.

1219
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 1: Right?

1220
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 2: Oh yikes, Oh that's awful. All right.

1221
00:51:54,960 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: The scramble before tribal is pretty intense, turn out to

1222
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: not actually be then intense. It's kind of like what

1223
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: Syria and Ozzie said in motion plays out, but there

1224
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 1: is this moment where it's like, it does feel like

1225
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 1: the tension shifts back to Ozzie because everyone's like, you know,

1226
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,879
Speaker 1: Soria's just doing this for Ozzy and everyone can see

1227
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: their relationship developing.

1228
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 3: Did you think he was going to play his idol?

1229
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: No, but I was worried that they because they could have,

1230
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: you know, just because they don't know that he has

1231
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 1: an idol.

1232
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 2: Right, No, yeah, she does.

1233
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 3: I think Serrino's right.

1234
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if she does. I'm assuming because he

1235
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 2: gave her his extra vote. I don't know.

1236
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: If he actually has told her because he's been voted

1237
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 1: out with idol and idol know.

1238
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 3: Which is that Sometimes you think you'd be gunshine and

1239
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 3: be like I'm playing it.

1240
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 1: I'm playing it, I know, but you want to hold

1241
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 1: onto it because he knows he's going to get blindsided,

1242
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: you know, he and yeah, but anyway, they always heighten

1243
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 1: the drama. Like a lot of times you go into

1244
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: tribal and like they actually pretty much all know the

1245
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: plan and then you know, the producers just edit it

1246
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 1: to make it it.

1247
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 3: Sounds like they did this week. They knew, they knew

1248
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 3: when they all vote for the same person, you know,

1249
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:03,919
Speaker 3: the plans already set in motion.

1250
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 1: And before right before they go to tribal, Christian and

1251
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: Devon's had this conversation where they I didn't know what

1252
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: they were doing, where they're going to create a fake

1253
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 1: idol and like leave it. It turns out there they're

1254
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: going to wrap up a fake IDOL and leave it

1255
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: at the tribal council area for somebody in another tribe

1256
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: to find.

1257
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 2: Or maybe they're going to leave a clue for one

1258
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 2: of their own tribe. I don't know. It's a weird,

1259
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 2: weird choice I'm not sure how it's all going to

1260
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 2: play out. They weren't. We didn't get to see the

1261
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 2: idol that they faked.

1262
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 3: But it works so well together. No, we just know

1263
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 3: that he had the wrapping from the original one. They

1264
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 3: wrapped it up to look like the regular thing. They

1265
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 3: did the greatest sleight of hand essentially to get to

1266
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 3: tide it there. And I'm dying to know I was

1267
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 3: because I'm the same thing.

1268
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I'm like, okay, what is what

1269
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 2: does that do?

1270
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 3: But knowing that you can have a fake idol and

1271
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 3: then play it and be like I'm safe and it

1272
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 3: turns out you're not, is just oh god, it's harsh.

1273
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right.

1274
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,240
Speaker 1: So at the tribal council, Joe brings up his argument

1275
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 1: with Devons. I thought this was really nice, Like, you know,

1276
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: they kind of hash it out. Joe doesn't quite apologize,

1277
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: but you know, does admit his own stubbornness and his own,

1278
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: you know, in a like inability to to be the

1279
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 1: kind of player that Devon's is.

1280
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 3: And now you said these can get contentious, because I haven't.

1281
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 2: So far.

1282
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 3: It's been just like, I love playing with everybody. And

1283
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 3: here's why I want to apologize forever I did this

1284
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 3: week kind of.

1285
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, people are these are really good players, you know.

1286
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 1: It's they know that you don't reveal anything at tribal

1287
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: because the second you open your mouth and you start

1288
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: like letting beef come out in front of everybody a target, yeah,

1289
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: you become the target.

1290
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 2: Like it doesn't help you.

1291
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 1: That's why I like Coach talking about that Ozzy situation

1292
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 1: is like, dude, just stop, like just no one cares.

1293
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:51,439
Speaker 2: No one cares that much.

1294
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: You your ego got hurt, your ego got bruised, You're

1295
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 1: worried about your reputation in a game where literally everybody's

1296
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: voting everybody else out Like, yeah, nobody really care is

1297
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: that much? And I think Mike is Mike White is

1298
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 1: very aware that. I love the way he always has

1299
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 1: this slightly shitty and grin on his face when stuff

1300
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: like that happens.

1301
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 2: He's just like, I see what's going on here.

1302
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 3: And he's the kid who throws a cherry bomb in

1303
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 3: the toilet and then walks away when it explodes and

1304
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 3: looks around like who did that?

1305
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 2: Perfect exactly?

1306
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,399
Speaker 1: And I think that's why he's kind of beloved because

1307
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: everyone's like yeah, you know, like he's not like a villain,

1308
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: he's just a bit of fun.

1309
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:29,280
Speaker 2: Trickster.

1310
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 1: Trickster exactly totally. And then yeah, Savannah talks. She gets

1311
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,439
Speaker 1: emotional about how hard it is to be vulnerable, which

1312
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: I really appreciated, you know, like I can see this

1313
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: is like man, and it's unfortunate that she gives that

1314
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 1: speech right before.

1315
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 3: She's a voter and she's the one who won the

1316
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,280
Speaker 3: last season who they didn't know yet. Okay, so she's

1317
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 3: gone from like she's like I had a week off

1318
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 3: essentially a good A good part of her is probably

1319
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 3: really relieved to be off that damnite right.

1320
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 1: She's a really good player though, Yeah, like I was

1321
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 1: impressed to be able to keep up with these people,

1322
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: these this level of plane. And like I said, she

1323
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: was like she was hip to like what was going

1324
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: on in her tribe and like very sophisticated and like

1325
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: when she did her challenge, you know, by herself, like

1326
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 1: she's just she's played well.

1327
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 3: And she had an extra vote from the coalie thing,

1328
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 3: that's what it was, which wouldn't have helped her in

1329
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 3: any way, shape or from anyway.

1330
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: No, because it looks like, yeah, everybody just turned on her.

1331
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 1: But so my problem so far, like my going back

1332
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 1: to like when you you asked in the opening the

1333
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: first fan choice, which was that they you know, don't

1334
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:37,479
Speaker 1: get flint, they.

1335
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 2: Don't get scared. You know, this is that's what's happening.

1336
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: Where like the thing that I was I explained to

1337
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,240
Speaker 1: you that could happen, which is that the struggling tribe

1338
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: in this case, the tribe without fire, they don't have

1339
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: flint and they they got fired with their things, but

1340
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: they don't have any fishing gear, right they I guess

1341
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: they got there. They got the camp improvement this this

1342
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: time that's hard. But like you see that once one

1343
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,720
Speaker 1: tribe starts, sometimes they just keep losing. And I'm afraid

1344
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 1: that that's happening, like the snowball effect of like Sila,

1345
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: which is full of good people and good players, just

1346
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 1: because they're they're going down and they're losing morale and

1347
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: they're starting it sucks, man, be a time now, Yeah,

1348
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: this will happen where it just like literally comes down

1349
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: to two people on the tribe and they're like what

1350
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: do we do? And then they just have to merge

1351
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: them into other tribes And what sucks about that? Is

1352
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 1: they come into an established tribe on the bottom always because.

1353
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 3: That's the first person, great person to vote out here,

1354
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 3: good because we have no allegiance to this person exactly.

1355
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: I mean, what you ultimately want is your tribe to

1356
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: go merge with another tribe, hopefully with like four or

1357
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: five of you, or at least three of you, so

1358
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: you can go in with your alliance, you know. But

1359
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: the problem is you by the time it gets to that,

1360
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: you might hate half the people on your own tribe.

1361
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 2: It gets really complicated socially once once the merge happens.

1362
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, so I just hope that Cela can come

1363
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,439
Speaker 1: back just for the sake of the game play, because

1364
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: I just hate seeing one team get screwed.

1365
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 2: But also because you, like everybody is these are my people.

1366
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 2: I'm totally just I'm gonna put my heart on the line.

1367
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 2: I'm laying it out there. I care about them, I

1368
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 2: like them.

1369
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 3: I was team Colby. I am all in on poopy Pants,

1370
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 3: I'll be honest with you. Did you also notice his

1371
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 3: shirt with the robots?

1372
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, what does it say? Ten one?

1373
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 3: It's yeah, well it's it's zero one are a zero

1374
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 3: zero one zero one one, So it's binary code. There's

1375
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 3: a see different. Oh, I have no idea, but it's

1376
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 3: it's a cool binary shirt. I'm sure it means something.

1377
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 3: I'm sure I don't understand. But just the fact that

1378
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 3: it's three robots and it's binary code I thought was

1379
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 3: really cool.

1380
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 2: All right, Well, if somebody out there knows plea no

1381
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 2: binary code?

1382
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 3: Yeah zero one, well zero zeros one zero is one

1383
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 3: one I think it is, or whatever it is.

1384
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1385
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: Oh, so I have to tell you this because I

1386
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 1: thought about it when they they vote Savannah out. So

1387
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: if you notice when they you know, they lose their fire,

1388
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: that's how you get.

1389
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 2: That's how you're extinguished from the game, is that they

1390
00:58:58,920 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 2: right Brett.

1391
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: And so every time he says the tribe has spoken,

1392
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: and he snuffs their their torch and then then they

1393
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: walk away. Indie for years thought that he was saying,

1394
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: trap you're smoking.

1395
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 2: As he snuff.

1396
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 3: It kind of works perfectly, perfectly.

1397
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 1: So every time we look at each other and we go, Savannah,

1398
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 1: trap your smoking, because it makes literal sense, right, we're

1399
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 1: gonna trap your smoking.

1400
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 3: Exactly, I thought, they take their bowl and they go,

1401
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 3: you're not token.

1402
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 2: Trapped smoking. So if we if we ever create tworld merch.

1403
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: I think our first thing should be a shirt that

1404
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 1: just says, trap your smoking.

1405
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 2: You're smoking. I like it.

1406
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 3: I tink you should trap your I tink you should.

1407
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 1: We gotta get dancing with the stars in there, somehow

1408
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 1: get one more one dancing to the stargar Is we

1409
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: have a perfect shirt.

1410
00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 2: Yes, we'll figure it out, all right, do you have

1411
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 2: a survivor?

1412
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 4: Wait?

1413
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 2: Well before that, don't forget.

1414
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 3: They then do the great misdirect where he where poopy

1415
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 3: pants pretends to fall.

1416
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna call him that anymore. Christian falls are

1417
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 2: acting Christian dude. But it works.

1418
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 1: It just makes you turn your head enough to where

1419
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 1: it's perfect. But I love their ways series, like are

1420
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:22,919
Speaker 1: you okay? Because he didn't know where to walk at them?

1421
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 2: It's over here. You got a little so he might

1422
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 2: have he might have handed it up a little too much.

1423
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 2: It was.

1424
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't understand what their strategy is, Like, Okay,

1425
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: they obviously edited out what you know, what they built,

1426
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: what they made, and how what their plan is Like yeah,

1427
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: it's it's it's bait for somebody. But I'm so curious

1428
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 1: what they wrote, if they wrote anything.

1429
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 2: Like my other question do they have access to pen

1430
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 2: and paper?

1431
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 3: Can they write stuff?

1432
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 2: You know, that's a very good question. I don't.

1433
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 1: I think you are allowed to bring like one personal item,

1434
01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 1: and I'm sure people do often bring a notebook to

1435
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 1: keep notes, to keep track of who's who and like,

1436
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 1: so I think they but I'm I'm not one hundred

1437
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 1: percent sure on that, okay, but I think they get

1438
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 1: to bring one personal item, you know, as long as

1439
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 1: it's not like.

1440
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 2: A hack saw, right exactly, it's.

1441
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 1: Just a whole bunch of food, like just a rations.

1442
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 2: It's awesome.

1443
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I wonder how far away they are

1444
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 3: from door dash, Like, what if it's just my My

1445
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 3: personal line is my phone and I'm on starlink and

1446
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 3: I'm just going to keep ordering food the entire time.

1447
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 2: Oh god, that'd be funny. All right, you got a

1448
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 2: survivor from history.

1449
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 1: I do.

1450
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 2: But then the tip of your tongue just from the

1451
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 2: top of your on the top of my head.

1452
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 3: But of course we're calling this famous from exactly, thank you.

1453
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 3: We've got a really cool one today. We've got Julianne

1454
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 3: Margaret Beatty Kopecky.

1455
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:56,439
Speaker 2: Oh, another female survivor.

1456
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 3: Oh, listen to this Kopeki is known for being the

1457
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 3: sole survivor of the nineteen seventy one Lance of Flight

1458
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 3: five oh eight crash Oh my God, when the plane

1459
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 3: was struck by lightning. She fell ten thousand feet no

1460
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 3: while strapped to her seat, and suffered numerous injuries, including ancussion,

1461
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 3: broken collarbone, and a torn knee ligament. She survived eleven

1462
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 3: days alone in the Peruvian Amazon rainforest until she located

1463
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 3: a lumberjack camp.

1464
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 2: Hold on, how do you survive a ten thousand foot fall? Yeah,

1465
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 2: it's a great questions.

1466
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 1: She must have like hit jungle and like giant trees

1467
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 1: that broke her fall like like full Avatar style, you know,

1468
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 1: or they.

1469
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 3: Like I imagine giant.

1470
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 2: Leaf to giant leaf and it just like cradles her death.

1471
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 2: That's how it was.

1472
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 3: She found herself falling, still strapped to her row of seats.

1473
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 2: In the Amazon rainforest.

1474
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 3: She ended up surviving the fall, but had a whole

1475
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 3: bunch of injuries. Eleven days in the rainforest, she dealt

1476
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 3: with severe insect bites and an infestation of botfly larvae

1477
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 3: into her injured arm. After nine days, they were disgusting.

1478
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that means that like they were planting eggs in

1479
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 1: her wound.

1480
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 3: Yep, oh so pretty awesome. Uh yeah, so that she

1481
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 3: literally they it.

1482
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 1: Was did you ever watch that one survival show where

1483
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 1: it was it was it was.

1484
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 2: It was like a loan before alone, where it was

1485
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 2: just the one guy. I'm blanking on his name, Oh

1486
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 2: Survivorman Survivorman.

1487
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, dude, that was That show is intense and

1488
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 1: he did want He did a couple in the rainforest

1489
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 1: and like rainforests are crazy. Oh, like there's just so

1490
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 1: many weird bugs and like plants that will kill you.

1491
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,919
Speaker 1: Oh dude, I would way rather be lost like where

1492
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 1: they are and alone, which is like the Arctic, which

1493
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 1: sounds worse, but at least like you can lay on

1494
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 1: the ground, like if I remember the Survivor man, he

1495
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 1: couldn't lay on the ground because he was so worried

1496
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 1: about snakes and spiders.

1497
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 3: And not just that they have they have certain places

1498
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 3: you go where they say like if you're in if

1499
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 3: you find yourself in waste deep water, don't pee because

1500
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 3: if you open up your urethra, things crawl up inside

1501
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 3: of you.

1502
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 2: And oh, yikes, too rain for it like real jungle

1503
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 2: like Peruvian.

1504
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 1: Nope, nope, nope, I get the creepy crawl is just

1505
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 1: thinking about it like.

1506
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 3: Okay, wait now say this is something you should understand too.

1507
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 3: Experts have said that she survived the fall because she

1508
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 3: was harnessed into her seat, the window seat, which was

1509
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 3: attached to the two seats to her left as part

1510
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 3: of a row of three that thought to have functioned

1511
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 3: almost as a parachute or.

1512
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 2: A helicopter, which slowed her fall.

1513
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 3: The impact may have also lessened by the updraft from

1514
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 3: a thunderstorm she fell through and went through thick foliage

1515
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 3: at the landing site. So I mean just and then

1516
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 3: and the crazy thing was as many as fourteen other

1517
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 3: passengers were later discovered to have survived the initial crash

1518
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 3: but died waiting to be rescued.

1519
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah that I don't know, like if I

1520
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 1: fell ten thousand feet, how do you have the like

1521
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 1: you don't faith in yourself to keep going?

1522
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 2: You don't or you just it's like.

1523
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 1: Okay, like you do. I have to survive because my God,

1524
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 1: like one of their dances.

1525
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 3: But so they think it helicoptered the seat helicopter down

1526
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 3: which slowed her, and then an uplift from the storm

1527
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 3: and then hitting the foliage. I mean, the confluence of

1528
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 3: events that needed to happen to keep this woman alive

1529
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 3: is mind boggling.

1530
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 2: Wow. So there's your survivor from history.

1531
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 3: To and then when she landed and the botflies were

1532
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 3: in her and they're climbing out of her, she had

1533
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 3: to dive into a river and get a key and

1534
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 3: then open up No, I'm kidding, that was it.

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01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 1: And then build a puzzle that said Survivor Season fifty

1536
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 1: for some reason, and that got her out.

1537
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, Colby was there. She found a

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01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 2: Billie eilish Idol and she was okay. So there you go.

1539
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 2: You've been listening to Podmeyt's twirled. The torches may be snuffed,

1540
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 2: but our questionable analysis burns on. We'll see you next

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01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 2: time at Tribal