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Speaker 1: Your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez, and Kyle Yeomans.
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Speaker 4: We've got Patrick Nocy Walker, We've got Josh Rodriguez Hi,
Speaker 4: We've got Tommy Yarish filling in for Isaiah Standback who's
Speaker 4: halfway across the globe right now. And we've got Chris
Speaker 4: Bean in the back. As always, I'm Kyle Yeoman's glad
Speaker 4: you're with us. Lots to talk about this week because
Speaker 4: it's the final week going into what is going to
Speaker 4: be either a very interesting or very non interesting. I mean,
Speaker 4: I guess that's pretty much how anything is in life.
Speaker 4: But you get what I'm talking about. It's free agency madness.
Speaker 4: In the middle of March.
Speaker 6: Oh, I thought we're gonna talk about John Cena turning heel.
Speaker 4: We okay, not ready for we can talk about that.
Speaker 4: I saw like the Rock was involved in there.
Speaker 6: It's a big deal.
Speaker 5: It's like a whole thing.
Speaker 6: Arguably bigger than anything going on in this place, you.
Speaker 4: Know, as I just skipped the whole No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 4: We're gonna talk cowboys, all right. Listen, there's two people here,
Speaker 4: maybe two and a half that gets talk wrestling. I
Speaker 4: don't know how much are you thought of ut on
Speaker 4: the wrestling.
Speaker 7: I was more in the the meme aspect of it
Speaker 7: because I sent Patrick a couple the other day where
Speaker 7: I have no idea what's going on, which is really funny.
Speaker 4: You and I are cut from the same cloth because
Speaker 4: whenever we do see something.
Speaker 8: That the other one foundation is there. We just got
Speaker 8: to get you guys to build upon them.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: I've been the Wrestledmania like that was a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: That's huge.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was awesome.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It was the one where stone Cold Steve Austin came
Speaker 4: back from from retirement and made things happen.
Speaker 5: It was awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which might happen at this WrestleMania as well.
Speaker 6: Who knows who knows. I like it wrestling talk in
Speaker 6: the off season at the.
Speaker 5: Diversity of North Texas.
Speaker 10: Baby, So he retired and unretired like eight times.
Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 10: That's how wrestled wrestling twice it's like sixty five.
Speaker 5: It looks like we wrestling.
Speaker 4: So, uh, there's one guy that has retired and he
Speaker 4: will stay retired.
Speaker 5: I think Zach Martin.
Speaker 4: His whole announcement and celebration is scheduled for tomorrow, So
Speaker 4: we'll have some more on that next week as he
Speaker 4: kind of wraps up and ties the bow on what
Speaker 4: was a phenomenal career. That's one news and note to
Speaker 4: get to. But that's not the only one.
Speaker 8: It's not because Daredevil comes out today.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, just honoring Frank Castle Daredevil. There you go. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that whole situation. So let's talk osa Odiggie Zua.
Speaker 5: Okay, So talk about or Mail.
Speaker 3: Yeah, talk about rumor mail.
Speaker 8: It's been hot and it's been heavy, and uh the
Speaker 8: Cowboys have been fighting tooth and nail to try to
Speaker 8: get a long term extension done with Osodiggie Zula for
Speaker 8: the better part of a week now. They started up
Speaker 8: in Indianapolis early last week where Tommy began kicking some
Speaker 8: major ass up there and I love it. I was
Speaker 8: able to join Nick Eatman and I were able to
Speaker 8: join Tommy on Wednesday, and we you know, boots on
Speaker 8: the ground there with Tommy really got to dig into
Speaker 8: what was going on with the situation with OSA, and
Speaker 8: every single day they got more and more traction toward
Speaker 8: getting a potential long term deal done. I actually believe
Speaker 8: and I know Tommy is with me as well on this. Uh,
Speaker 8: there was a good, a strong feeling that the deal
Speaker 8: would have been done by the end of next week.
Speaker 8: That's how much progress they were making on a daily
Speaker 8: basis end of last week last week.
Speaker 3: So we've still got time here, wish well maybe kind
Speaker 3: of kind of, which goes to the next point. Yeah, Okay, So.
Speaker 8: Today being Tuesday, March fourth, this is the deadline day
Speaker 8: four franchise tags to be a plot by the to
Speaker 8: the NFL. They have to be filed by four pm
Speaker 8: Eastern time. So they're up against it right now. Make
Speaker 8: some more leeway on yesterday, or headway on yesterday, I
Speaker 8: should say, but the franchise tag still looms. The Cowboys
Speaker 8: are not and I repeat not going to let Osodiggie
Speaker 8: Zoo Wu hit the open market.
Speaker 3: They're not going to do it either way. Either way
Speaker 3: he will be in a deal or there will be
Speaker 3: a tag.
Speaker 8: There will be a deal or there will be a tag. Now,
Speaker 8: in the event, and right now, for those that like
Speaker 8: to play the.
Speaker 5: Eyes, you got about five hours until that day.
Speaker 3: And it is still as we woke up this morning,
Speaker 3: it is still fifty to fifty. It could go either way.
Speaker 8: A deal could land while we're sitting here having this
Speaker 8: conversation about a deal.
Speaker 6: And that's been the case since Friday.
Speaker 8: That's what I mean, like, it's that's how close this
Speaker 8: has been. It is imminent, but nothing is agreed as
Speaker 8: of yet. So in the event the franchise tag is applied,
Speaker 8: I'm told it will be the exclusive franchise tag to
Speaker 8: the tune of twenty five point one million dollars before
Speaker 8: Cowboys fans twenty five point one million, the ones the
Speaker 8: one year fully guaranteed for the one, the one, the one.
Speaker 6: Year, one year.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 8: Cowboys hope that if it comes to that that it
Speaker 8: will result in it being simply a placeholder and nothing more.
Speaker 8: Cowboys will still be able to negotiate a long term
Speaker 8: deal all the way up and through the next deadline,
Speaker 8: which will be July fifteenth. If the Cowboys don't get
Speaker 8: a deal done at that point, then the franchise tag
Speaker 8: will lock in and OLSA will hit the open market
Speaker 8: again next year. That being said, there's evidence towards that
Speaker 8: because DeMarcus Lawrence, granted, was the second franchise tag. DeMarcus
Speaker 8: Lawrence was tagged a month later they got a five
Speaker 8: year deal done. Dak Prescott his second franchise tag, they
Speaker 8: tagged him four hours later, four year deal, one hundred
Speaker 8: and sixty million dollars. So there's a bit of a
Speaker 8: precedent there. And I say that to say Cowboys will
Speaker 8: continue to work toward a deal even if the franchise
Speaker 8: tag lands because they need the cap space. They cannot
Speaker 8: allow that twenty five point one million dollars to sit
Speaker 8: there against them going into free agency.
Speaker 5: Now, just clarify for those that might be new to this.
Speaker 4: Whenever it comes to Osa, he doesn't want the tag either,
Speaker 4: even though it's guaranteed money and it's something upfront that
Speaker 4: he would get the twenty five million, which is probably
Speaker 4: more than he would get on average per year in
Speaker 4: the long term deal. Because on his market values more
Speaker 4: so around twenty to twenty three million, and I've seen
Speaker 4: numbers kind of all the.
Speaker 5: Way across the board.
Speaker 4: I would probably say it's closer to the twenty than
Speaker 4: the twenty three be correct, And so if you're talking
Speaker 4: about market value and where he stands, average per year
Speaker 4: would be lower than what the tag would be.
Speaker 5: However, he's more interested than the long term.
Speaker 3: Correct.
Speaker 4: He wants it's a twenty year or twenty per year
Speaker 4: over the next three or four years down the line,
Speaker 4: as opposed to just the twenty five years.
Speaker 6: And on the franchise side, really quickly, you're saying OsO
Speaker 6: would not want that, but I think that goes to
Speaker 6: any player, like the having a franchise house park is
Speaker 6: not an ideal situation for most plays.
Speaker 5: It's betting on themselves.
Speaker 8: Tell me and I had a great conversation about this
Speaker 8: whole thing yesterday as far as pros and cons for
Speaker 8: both the tag versus the multi year contract franchise tag. Yes,
Speaker 8: there's a situation where you have a fully guaranteed lump
Speaker 8: sum twenty five point one million dollars.
Speaker 3: Bang right in your account. Got it? Okay, here's the problem.
Speaker 3: Knock on Wood.
Speaker 8: What if you get injured, your your free market value
Speaker 8: in the following off season season tanks because now all
Speaker 8: these questions about will he be the same player? How
Speaker 8: long will it take for him to get back on
Speaker 8: the field. There is an inherent risk in the franchise tag,
Speaker 8: which is why players don't like it, even though the
Speaker 8: guaranteed money is steering you in the face. Also, if
Speaker 8: you take into account if you sign a multi year deal,
Speaker 8: presumably especially for Osa, the fully guaranteed money on the
Speaker 8: new deal will be multiplied.
Speaker 3: Over this twenty five.
Speaker 8: So let's say, let's assume it's fifty million, just hypothetical,
Speaker 8: Let's assume it's fifty million guaranteed on the new deal.
Speaker 8: Wouldn't you rather fifty million guaranteed plus stability on a
Speaker 8: four year contract versus a one year contract?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 8: So to Kyle's point, Osa and no player Hey as
Speaker 8: T Higgins, how he feels about a franchise tag. Not
Speaker 8: all women fuzzy about it. So again, Osa doesn't want
Speaker 8: it to doesn't want to be tagged. The Cowboys don't
Speaker 8: want to tag him. Both sides want the deal to
Speaker 8: get done, which is why there's been so much traction
Speaker 8: in progress. Yeah, progress in toward getting that. But when
Speaker 8: you're talking about a deal of this magnitude, you know,
Speaker 8: sometimes you know, it takes a little longer to tweak
Speaker 8: and fine tune it to get it exactly where it
Speaker 8: needs to be. I still have confidence that gets done,
Speaker 8: that gets done today before the deadline. But fifty to fifty,
Speaker 8: I say, as we have this conversation, and if it
Speaker 8: is a tag situation again, I say to Cowboys fans,
Speaker 8: I would be absolutely stunned if we're having this conversation
Speaker 8: and training camp and he's still on the tag.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'd agree with that sentiment. I think that, you know,
Speaker 7: when you look at this, you mentioned at the top
Speaker 7: of the show, there's five hours to get an extension done.
Speaker 10: I don't think there needs to be any rush here.
Speaker 7: I don't think either side is in any side of
Speaker 7: any kind of hurry to get this done because playing also,
Speaker 7: Digizu is going to be wearing a star on his
Speaker 7: helmet next year, So it's just a matter of Okay,
Speaker 7: how many more years is he going to be wearing
Speaker 7: that star on his helmet and how much is he
Speaker 7: going to get paid?
Speaker 10: Look like you said, guys, the Cowboys.
Speaker 7: Don't want to pay twenty five point one million dollars.
Speaker 7: I also Diggy Zoo is a hell of a player,
Speaker 7: But if they want to be selectively aggressive and free agency,
Speaker 7: they're going to have to have a pool of money
Speaker 7: to where they can go out and get guys that
Speaker 7: fit that mold. So I would guess, and this is
Speaker 7: just a guess, that franchise tag gets applied today, and
Speaker 7: we're in a Dak Prescott kind of situation where twenty
Speaker 7: four hours from now we could be looking at an extinction.
Speaker 10: The good news is they've gotten until mid July.
Speaker 7: I think it's July fifteenth, at four pm Eastern time
Speaker 7: to finalize an extension before that franchise tag officially goes
Speaker 7: into place. So I don't think there's any hurry here.
Speaker 7: I don't think either side wants to rush into a
Speaker 7: deal and make any kind of rash decisions. So I
Speaker 7: would expect today the franchise tag gets placed on Odigiezu
Speaker 7: and they get an extension.
Speaker 8: I think, really, I think the bigger thing is for
Speaker 8: the Cowboys. They they're trying to get this done for
Speaker 8: a couple of reasons. One, obviously, they want os in
Speaker 8: the building for a long term but from an accounting standpoint,
Speaker 8: legal tampering starts on March tenth. You want to know
Speaker 8: what your accounting looks like going into March tenth. You
Speaker 8: need to know what your actual money is. Not Okay, well,
Speaker 8: we got this twenty five million against us, and maybe
Speaker 8: that won't be the case come March thirteenth or March fourteenth.
Speaker 8: You don't want to have to play it that way.
Speaker 8: You want to clean accounting going into March tenth, saying
Speaker 8: this is what we have, this is what we have
Speaker 8: to work with.
Speaker 6: Simply put, it buys you more time to get the
Speaker 6: extension done and it takes the guess work out of
Speaker 6: him being on a different team next season. It's not
Speaker 6: going to have he will have a star in assignment,
Speaker 6: like you said. And I don't think anybody wants an
Speaker 6: Anthony Spencer situation where he's on a franchise tag for
Speaker 6: the next two years.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, because you could tag him again next year,
Speaker 4: but that number is only going to go up exactly,
Speaker 4: And kind of going back to what Tommy was saying,
Speaker 4: deadlines make deals.
Speaker 5: We hear that all the time.
Speaker 4: The deal right here is he's he's back playing and
Speaker 4: simple like you said, keep it simple. There, he's going
Speaker 4: to be a Dallas Cowboys defensive tackle next year. But
Speaker 4: because there's so much motion, just because they do place
Speaker 4: the tag and because that is the placeholder, doesn't mean
Speaker 4: we have to wait until July. It could happen, absolutely,
Speaker 4: and I.
Speaker 7: Think that I think, you know, we talk about the
Speaker 7: deadline today for the franchise tag.
Speaker 10: I think the deadline for an extension is what.
Speaker 7: Patrick was talking about legal tampering, because you have got
Speaker 7: to have a visual of what you have to work
Speaker 7: with from a money perspective going into free agency, because
Speaker 7: when you look at this team, there's only so many
Speaker 7: spots you can fill in the draft. And this is
Speaker 7: a draft class that you know, when you look at
Speaker 7: players from fifteen through maybe fifty, from what we're hearing
Speaker 7: that you're kind of getting more or less the same guy.
Speaker 7: And even Will McLay told us at the Senior Bowl
Speaker 7: that this is a class that is full of depth
Speaker 7: pieces in terms of what these guys can provide to
Speaker 7: a team. And the good news is that's exactly what
Speaker 7: the Cowboys know they need to build around their stars.
Speaker 7: And Odicky Zoo I would consider to be one of
Speaker 7: their better players and you could say he's a star
Speaker 7: on the defensive side of the ball. So you've got
Speaker 7: to get him in the boat before that legal tampering period,
Speaker 7: so you can know how to mash the draft and
Speaker 7: free agency.
Speaker 8: And to a point that you made yesterday when we
Speaker 8: were speaking about the whole Osa situations, as well as
Speaker 8: Osa has played for this Dallas Cowboys defense, regardless of
Speaker 8: who the coordinator has been, there's a very real chance
Speaker 8: that when you go back and you look, like, tell
Speaker 8: me you told me yesterday, when you go back and
Speaker 8: look at how Eberflus runs his schemes, there is a
Speaker 8: really good chance that Osa explodes onto the scene in
Speaker 8: twenty twenty five under met Ebraflu.
Speaker 3: So keep that in mind.
Speaker 8: The Cowboys are looking at the potential with him with
Speaker 8: ebra flues as well as his contributions are.
Speaker 4: He's going to make twenty million a year, He's going
Speaker 4: to have to produce. So as that's plain and simple
Speaker 4: right now, you think of it, and you look at
Speaker 4: him on the rookie contract as a third round pick,
Speaker 4: you say Osa overachieved. He did everything he needed to.
Speaker 4: He was a productive player. He did some things well,
Speaker 4: he did not do some things as well as across
Speaker 4: the board. If you're getting paid twenty million dollars Osa Digizua,
Speaker 4: the pressure is going to go out.
Speaker 6: And I kind of want to figure it out, and
Speaker 6: you want to know where his ceiling is.
Speaker 4: Yes, right, and good thing is I agree with Patrick here.
Speaker 4: I think Matt Iberflus already has it in his head
Speaker 4: that Osa is a key part of this defense.
Speaker 3: I could see he's already talked about pushing hands behind
Speaker 3: getting this deep.
Speaker 7: He absolutely is, because in the past he has said
Speaker 7: that the three technique defensive alignment is quote the engine
Speaker 7: unquote of his defense. And so when you look back,
Speaker 7: when you look back at his last three tech in Chicago,
Speaker 7: Javon Dexter, there's a difference between the two. Dexter comes
Speaker 7: in at six six three h twelve O Digi Zoo
Speaker 7: is significantly smaller at six two to eighty. But when
Speaker 7: you look at the name of the game for three techniques,
Speaker 7: it is quickness and explosiveness, and I think Odigi Zua
Speaker 7: gives you a little bit more in that.
Speaker 10: Department, albeit his smaller stature.
Speaker 7: I think Dexter was, you know, maybe just not on
Speaker 7: the right spot there in Chicago and they're thinking about
Speaker 7: moving him around now. So if that's what you need
Speaker 7: for this defense, and we know how good Mattyberflus's defense
Speaker 7: when they're playing at their best, are at stopping the
Speaker 7: run and taking the ball away, it starts up front,
Speaker 7: and I think if you've got your three technique, and
Speaker 7: it seems like they will, then you're looking at at
Speaker 7: a year where OsO Dicky Zua can potentially be more
Speaker 7: than what he's valued at.
Speaker 4: I'm excited for Osa.
Speaker 5: He's going to get the bag.
Speaker 4: He's earned the bag. He's been around. He's been as consistent.
Speaker 4: I know he's had flashes of greatness, but he's had
Speaker 4: a consistent floor. When you look at the film, he's effective.
Speaker 4: It may not end up in sacks and pressures, but
Speaker 4: he clogs the middle better than anybody else that's done
Speaker 4: it for Dallas in the last six or seven years.
Speaker 5: So really excited for him.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 5: I want to play a game with you guys, real fast.
Speaker 3: We like games.
Speaker 4: You've been studying up on the tag Cowboys have used
Speaker 4: eleven franchise tags. Can you name all eleven of them
Speaker 4: and what year they were knowing they were named? Okay, well,
Speaker 4: the year is bonus points.
Speaker 3: I want to try to work backwards.
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, so you're working backwards, I'm gonna turn.
Speaker 11: My No, it wouldn't be fun if I cheated. Yeah,
Speaker 11: and all right. The last one I'll give you a
Speaker 11: HND is in twenty twenty three. Well, Tony, there's one.
Speaker 11: Dolton Shots got it? Deak Prescott? Okay, so when I
Speaker 11: say dek Prescott will kind of him as one.
Speaker 4: That's one.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yes, even though he was tagged twice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think it's either yeah, yeah, let me,
Speaker 4: I'll double check double okay, but yes, he was tagged twice.
Speaker 3: Okay. So Pollard, Shots, Prescott, DeMarcus Lawrence.
Speaker 4: There you go.
Speaker 3: There's four. Oh, now you are one. Anthony Spencer.
Speaker 5: Got that one out of the way. Was he tagged once.
Speaker 3: Or twice Spencer or twice? Okay?
Speaker 6: Trying to help you back to back?
Speaker 5: Yeah, trying.
Speaker 3: We didn't tag them? Are cool? No? No?
Speaker 4: No tag of DeMarco. If you're in the YouTube chat,
Speaker 4: go and play along.
Speaker 3: I mean along.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you don't look at Let's see if they keep going.
Speaker 3: Didn't tag I've got it. We didn't tag this? Did we?
Speaker 3: Did we tag it? Did we?
Speaker 12: We?
Speaker 3: Tagged it, we tagged, we tagged it, gave it away. Sorry,
Speaker 3: I was processing. Okay, you're missing how many two? Okay,
Speaker 3: so there are it's eleven times use the tag. Yeah
Speaker 3: I'm missing too.
Speaker 9: Well.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, these are the two toughest one mm hmm.
Speaker 5: If you know it in the YouTube these gears, do
Speaker 5: you know it?
Speaker 10: No, Ida, you.
Speaker 4: Don't know it.
Speaker 3: But didn't tag Tony. I know that they were proactive
Speaker 3: and signing to position linebacker and safety safety safety.
Speaker 5: That was the first time.
Speaker 3: Actually, I think he tagged us safety.
Speaker 5: That's the first one. Do you know you have it
Speaker 5: in front of you.
Speaker 3: No, okay, I'm going to pass on safety.
Speaker 4: Kay Hamilton in two thousand, I would not have I
Speaker 4: don't remember ham Hamlin or sorry Ken Hamblin.
Speaker 3: I don't know that I ran as a player. I
Speaker 3: did not remember they tag He.
Speaker 6: Said, did we not tag Flos Adams?
Speaker 4: I thought he already said flows though, oh no, so sorry,
Speaker 4: there's two. No, that's the offensive tackle. But yeah, there's
Speaker 4: still a linebacker that I thought you said.
Speaker 3: Flows a linebacker. I wasn't shown, not Laton. Oh just
Speaker 3: do me. Oh it's Anthony Hitchins.
Speaker 5: Different Anthony.
Speaker 8: One second I thought it was Bruce Carter, but then
Speaker 8: I was about to say Bruce and you that start
Speaker 8: with a.
Speaker 4: Ah, yeah, no Anthony Spencer twice. Oh, okay, got him twice. Okay,
Speaker 4: that's just a fun game. I just thought it was interesting.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of those. It's across the board. It's
Speaker 4: either it's worked out great for Dallas or hasn't necessarily
Speaker 4: worked out.
Speaker 8: I would have I could have stayed for twenty four
Speaker 8: straight hours, I wouldn't have gotten Ken Hamlin.
Speaker 6: It also depends on what the hit was, because I
Speaker 6: wonder what it was for King Hamlin.
Speaker 4: I'm sure it wasn't much even this. I mean, what's
Speaker 4: the safety position now?
Speaker 6: It's not yod. I wouldn't even be bad now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't blink it.
Speaker 10: I don't think it's too mean.
Speaker 3: What's the dollar for the Yeah, it's.
Speaker 4: Eighteen point six now for the exclusive free agent.
Speaker 3: I'll consider that's not that now.
Speaker 5: Any other news and notes before we move on.
Speaker 8: Cowboys are also in active contract talks with the Marcus Lawrence.
Speaker 8: Those have begun. DeMarcus Lawrence and his agent, David Canter.
Speaker 8: They've had some comments to one oh five three the
Speaker 8: Fan and you know they're playing the game. David Canter
Speaker 8: is no rookie, he knows how it goes, so that
Speaker 8: those talks have begun as well. Jordan Lewis, those talks
Speaker 8: have begun. No offer has been made quite yet, but
Speaker 8: then that's because they're trying to get the OSA situation
Speaker 8: nailed down before they really get traction with Jordan's But
Speaker 8: speaking with Stephen Jones, as Tommy did speaking with Brian Schottenheimer,
Speaker 8: Jordan Lewis is a top priority and being bringing both back.
Speaker 6: And then going back to a few weeks ago when
Speaker 6: we were talking about the free agents that from this
Speaker 6: team that we need to keep.
Speaker 3: We're talking about we're talking about Ordan and.
Speaker 7: It's almost like and we had mentioned Krolso Diggi Zua
Speaker 7: at three Tech was an important piece of Matty Eberflu's
Speaker 7: defense that nickel corner, Kenny Moore in Indianapolis, Kyler Gordon
Speaker 7: in Chicago. If you get Jordan Lewis back in Dallas,
Speaker 7: I think he might be one of the better of
Speaker 7: those three.
Speaker 8: Absolutely, And one of the bigger tidbits from News and
Speaker 8: Notes is that contract Hawks have officially begun with Michael Parsons.
Speaker 8: Officially the Love had some feelers back and forth over
Speaker 8: the past several months, all the way up to me
Speaker 8: speaking with Michael Parsons when he was doing the Great
Speaker 8: Make a Wish the Great Thing with the Maker Wish
Speaker 8: Kids at Great Wolf, but as recently Lee as last
Speaker 8: week in the Combine Cowboys launched official contract, talked with
Speaker 8: Michael Parson. So a lot of things they're juggling in
Speaker 8: the air, and they really need that OCD deal to
Speaker 8: land as quickly as possible.
Speaker 6: Just a deal, any deal, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: If they if they have my contract for the next three.
Speaker 8: Years, Olsa, Jordan, Michah, bang, bang bang, let's just get
Speaker 8: all three of those.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, get it done.
Speaker 3: Have you seen him blog? You got to keep that
Speaker 3: guy either.
Speaker 10: I mean, this is Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4: So this is one of my favorite parts about the
Speaker 4: YouTube comments section is one they they they missed on
Speaker 4: Spencer too, and once they we named it, there's.
Speaker 3: Like a yeah, somebody WoT Kile. I ironically, someone named Kyle.
Speaker 5: I mean, of course we know everything.
Speaker 4: That's great.
Speaker 5: Brandon as.
Speaker 4: Hamblin, Somebody's just asked Melvin asked, He said, how do
Speaker 4: you how do people expect to improve this team, but
Speaker 4: want everything to be the same. Speaking on Osa and
Speaker 4: Jordan Lewis, may be very clear. Not everything was bad
Speaker 4: with that defense last year, and couple of the good
Speaker 4: things you want to keep the same.
Speaker 6: People are soon to forget. Yeah, they're quick to forget.
Speaker 4: Jordan Lewis had a hell of a season and Szu
Speaker 4: is an impactful player on your defensive line.
Speaker 6: Jordan Lewis was the most consistent player on your team,
Speaker 6: all of in your locker room. So here's details.
Speaker 10: Here's my question.
Speaker 3: For the group here.
Speaker 7: When you look at this the amount of free agents
Speaker 7: that Dallas has, You've got Osa and Jordan Lewis and
Speaker 7: Rico Daddle. I would say, or your your three guys
Speaker 7: there at the top that you know you probably want
Speaker 7: to keep around.
Speaker 3: No one's arguing on that one.
Speaker 7: Aside from that, is there really anybody that you've got
Speaker 7: a you really like?
Speaker 10: Oh man, we've got to have this guy back a.
Speaker 3: House in house. Those have none that you would stand
Speaker 3: on the table for.
Speaker 8: There are a couple I would like Eric Kendricks, for example,
Speaker 8: I am like Eric Kendricks to return.
Speaker 3: But I'm not going to stand on the table.
Speaker 4: We'll see and right, Rico is dependent on Bobby Wegg
Speaker 4: happens running back, and I'm not I'm standing on the
Speaker 4: table for Jordan Lewis and O City. Absolutely, I might
Speaker 4: go to the table for a couple more guys, but
Speaker 4: I'm not getting up on the table.
Speaker 3: So that's the thing is I would like Carl.
Speaker 10: Right, but I'm not staying it's all things that you
Speaker 10: it's all things that you would like.
Speaker 7: But in terms of things being the same in terms
Speaker 7: of a personnel standpoint, I don't think they are going
Speaker 7: to be the same because you look at some of
Speaker 7: these guys in free agency where I don't know how
Speaker 7: interested Dallas is going to be, like, oh, we've got
Speaker 7: to have this guy back, because yes, at points last
Speaker 7: year the Dallas defense was very good, but I think
Speaker 7: that they can be better. And I think that that's
Speaker 7: where look at this draft class. You know, it's a
Speaker 7: lot of defensive tackles that are very good. It's a
Speaker 7: class where you can go find a corner in the
Speaker 7: early rounds or later rounds, and I think you can
Speaker 7: get some value there. You know, you look at the linebacker,
Speaker 7: maybe maybe that's the spot you take earlier because of
Speaker 7: the injury to marveon overshown and we'll see what happens
Speaker 7: with Eric Kendricks.
Speaker 10: So I don't know how much of the same it's
Speaker 10: going to be.
Speaker 7: I think that this is going to be a new
Speaker 7: look defense with some of the same cornerstone parts that
Speaker 7: we saw last year that made it go. I don't
Speaker 7: know how how much of an emphasis there's going to
Speaker 7: be on keeping more things the same, because if you
Speaker 7: stay the same after a seven and ten season, then yeah,
Speaker 7: I think Melvin's got a point that you're not going
Speaker 7: to see much improvement.
Speaker 10: But I think this team has a lot shout out
Speaker 10: to Melvin.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that this team has a lot of
Speaker 7: things that they can do to improve, and I think
Speaker 7: they're going to take the steps in the right direction.
Speaker 7: But it starts with keeping your guys in the boat.
Speaker 7: If you're going to be a draft and develop franchise,
Speaker 7: you have to take the developed guys that you draft
Speaker 7: and keep them in house. And that's why you need
Speaker 7: to sign o. So Digizuo Jordan Lewis to both.
Speaker 8: Of those points, I will say this, The Cowboys have
Speaker 8: twenty two unrestricted free agents in total.
Speaker 3: Okay, thirteen of those are on defense.
Speaker 8: We're only talking about two guys standing on the table
Speaker 8: for two the top two two of those thirteen guys. Okay,
Speaker 8: careful not to throw the baby out with the bathwater here,
Speaker 8: because if you assume that the other eleven are going
Speaker 8: to walk Will Melvin, that achieves the mission of not
Speaker 8: simply repeating what you had last year. You keep the
Speaker 8: top two performers who are also your culture leaders. Okay
Speaker 8: in the locker room, Yeah, and everybody else is a discussion.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look at and I know Philadelphia is
Speaker 4: where everybody's looking right now because they lifted the Lombardi Trophy,
Speaker 4: But look at what they did from their last Super
Speaker 4: Bowl run to their current Super Bowl but run. Yes,
Speaker 4: nine of their eleven starters on defense were different from there.
Speaker 4: But the two guys that they kept were some of
Speaker 4: the top two guys in the league at what they do. Actually,
Speaker 4: I think it was eight out of the eleven, and
Speaker 4: they had three guys that returned as starters, and those
Speaker 4: three guys are at the best of what they do.
Speaker 4: I think that's what you're looking at trying to do.
Speaker 4: You can mix and match the pieces as is to
Speaker 4: try and make it all fit under the one umbrella.
Speaker 4: Of the salary cap and make your team as best
Speaker 4: as possible. But if you've got something good and you
Speaker 4: have a chance to keep them, do it. And that's
Speaker 4: what they're doing with Osa and then possibly with Jordan
Speaker 4: Lewis down the line.
Speaker 5: Don't fumble the bag there, don't do it all right?
Speaker 4: When we come back, I want to talk about some
Speaker 4: of the other possibilities. We've got a list of free
Speaker 4: agents in the NFL and they're ranked top to bottom.
Speaker 4: We're gonna go through and we're gonna play a little
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Speaker 4: Is it a need and we're gonna go get it?
Speaker 4: Or is this a pass?
Speaker 5: We're gonna play that game when we come back with
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Speaker 3: Sick.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna try something here, Tommy.
Speaker 4: If you were to make it a hand motion to
Speaker 4: say you were going to give someone a call, what
Speaker 4: would it look like like if you were like to
Speaker 4: hold it up?
Speaker 5: Okay, so you still do this?
Speaker 4: Do you know that there's like a whole generation of
Speaker 4: people that do this, that like have it with like
Speaker 4: the phone, hold the phone like that?
Speaker 3: Really?
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's like a whole generation of people that how do.
Speaker 6: You roll down the window in a car?
Speaker 3: Ah? What do you mean?
Speaker 6: I saw the trap?
Speaker 4: I saw that they were both a trap?
Speaker 3: What why not this? I don't know, because I mean
Speaker 3: you get well, they're not holding it like this, they're
Speaker 3: holding their holding it like that. Yeah, who holds their
Speaker 3: phone like this?
Speaker 5: I mean it's me who holds this?
Speaker 4: Who?
Speaker 3: You know what? That's like rotary?
Speaker 6: And yeah?
Speaker 4: But yeah, this this.
Speaker 3: Is this is universal. Let's just keep it.
Speaker 10: You just take a fist like like this, what's going on?
Speaker 3: How do you hold your cell? Phone because mine is
Speaker 3: all fingers. It's like this right, not like you don't
Speaker 3: don't palm your phone. That was kind of weird. Okay,
Speaker 3: let me still all right, we're gonna play a game.
Speaker 4: This is want, need, pass, want, but can't have, and
Speaker 4: that just is in terms of the sary cap, how
Speaker 4: things are gonna play out. And then we've got need,
Speaker 4: which is, let's go get this guy. Let's make it happen,
Speaker 4: Go get them, Let's go get him. He's gonna make
Speaker 4: our football team better and we could probably try and
Speaker 4: find a way to make it work. And then the
Speaker 4: other one is passed. We don't really care, like, don't
Speaker 4: worry about.
Speaker 5: It the first.
Speaker 6: So the first one is get and then the last one.
Speaker 3: Is get get Get out of the I T. Yeah,
Speaker 3: first one, this is U G I T.
Speaker 4: This dot GET based on Greg Rosenthal's list of top
Speaker 4: one hundred and one NFL free agents of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4: It's on NFL dot com uh and he updates it
Speaker 4: pretty regularly. So we're gonna pass the ones that are
Speaker 4: gonna get franchise tack across the board, so those are
Speaker 4: off the table. Starting with the third ranked free agent,
Speaker 4: Milton Williams, defensive tackle from Philadelphia.
Speaker 7: I would say passed because you're gonna get Also, Diggie
Speaker 7: Zoo back in the.
Speaker 4: And that's fair pass pass pass on that. Get Ronnie
Speaker 4: Stanley offensive tackle for the or from the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 3: Pass for me.
Speaker 4: Okay, thirty one years old. Yeah, he's number four on
Speaker 4: this list, but I think.
Speaker 5: I would say passed.
Speaker 4: You want to say pass, You've got to spend your
Speaker 4: money elsewhere.
Speaker 5: There's there's other places to go.
Speaker 4: Zach Bond, linebacker from the Philadelphia.
Speaker 5: Wow, so this is the quickness. Can you pay him?
Speaker 3: Get that ball?
Speaker 4: It's the one year thing. He was a guy of
Speaker 4: course that was kind of off written off initially after
Speaker 4: his first team, Philadelphia found lightning in a bottle with him.
Speaker 4: He fit perfectly into that system. They're not expected to
Speaker 4: tag him. I don't see how they even try and
Speaker 4: let him.
Speaker 6: He ended the Super Bowl his game winning interception. In
Speaker 6: my opinion, I think that was.
Speaker 3: That was it.
Speaker 5: I would probably classify that as a want.
Speaker 10: But yeah, but can't get I'm with you, call yea.
Speaker 5: I think that's worth I think it would be sick.
Speaker 5: Go get him.
Speaker 8: Here's why I'm with it and not to spoil, not
Speaker 8: to provide spoiler for my open market series which has
Speaker 8: been going on since last Monday on Cowboy Daily position
Speaker 8: addressing as far as what candidates the Cowboy should have
Speaker 8: liket realistically, my linebacker's piece drops defensive end drop today.
Speaker 8: By the way linebacker's piece drops on Thursday, I.
Speaker 5: Like to the running back piece.
Speaker 3: Thank you, sir.
Speaker 8: I appreciate that Zach Bond is in fact going to
Speaker 8: be on my list. And the reason Zach Bond is
Speaker 8: on my list for all the reasons that we're talking about.
Speaker 8: He's got the measurables, He's performed, He's performed at a
Speaker 8: high level with the brightest of the spotlights on him
Speaker 8: in the Super Bowl, helped the Eagles get the job done.
Speaker 8: But also when you look at the projected market value,
Speaker 8: and I'd like to use Spoe Track for this because
Speaker 8: they typically are pretty they track, they're pretty on track
Speaker 8: with that. So their projected market value for Eric Kendricks,
Speaker 8: whom we would like to see back in the building
Speaker 8: is around seven million dollars. The projected market value for
Speaker 8: Zach Bond is nine point seven. Giver take a couple
Speaker 8: million more dollars, So then the question comes Eric Kendricks
Speaker 8: or Zach Bond. I could make the argument to keep
Speaker 8: Eric Kendricks over Zach Bond. But if you lose Eric Hendricks,
Speaker 8: I'd say throw a couple million on the extra on
Speaker 8: the table and get Zack Bond in the building.
Speaker 4: That that's where you really think that that number is
Speaker 4: gonna stick around.
Speaker 5: That keep Philadelphia.
Speaker 8: Projection is projection, right, so probably will because this is
Speaker 8: gonna change. This number is going to change upwards or
Speaker 8: downwards based upon the amount of demand that he gets
Speaker 8: on the open market. What are the negotiations looking like
Speaker 8: between he and the Eagles, so forth and so on.
Speaker 8: So if we just give it a good round, not
Speaker 8: this said nine and a half, and that could go
Speaker 8: between nine and ten.
Speaker 3: Maybe it goes as high as eleven. Maybe it comes
Speaker 3: down to the eighth.
Speaker 8: What I'm saying is it's not totally incomparable to what
Speaker 8: Eric Kendricks would probably come in on the open market.
Speaker 8: So if you are willing to bring Kendricks back, and
Speaker 8: I am, then Zach Bond for me for a couple
Speaker 8: million more has to be in the conversation. If we're
Speaker 8: talking eight or nine million, then yes, what's making and
Speaker 8: I'm gonna get if we're talking, you know.
Speaker 5: If you're weare in the double, don't get Sam Darnold.
Speaker 6: Ah, yeah, not as as he's I.
Speaker 4: Was expecting, Like I paused there because I thought everybody
Speaker 4: would be like, yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh I forgot that he had a great year. Yeah
Speaker 3: those as he had a great year.
Speaker 6: But I think he's he's built that culture for the
Speaker 6: Minnesota Viking.
Speaker 3: He's gonna be people back up.
Speaker 4: Now there is an eagle that is at least looking
Speaker 4: like he will be on his way down. Josh Wet
Speaker 4: twenty eight years old, edge rusher from Philadelphia.
Speaker 5: The number is still gonna be high.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna pass on this one.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna pass, not even not even a want, but
Speaker 4: can't have.
Speaker 6: I mean I would maybe it would be a one
Speaker 6: on one.
Speaker 3: Can't have that's a one.
Speaker 6: I think for me, it's more of a like realistic
Speaker 6: like yeah, just fat numbers. It's a sad going get
Speaker 6: you want to get.
Speaker 4: And he's leaving Philadelphia because he doesn't want to take
Speaker 4: a pay cut from twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a want, but it's not not going to happen.
Speaker 5: What's the do you know what the number would be
Speaker 5: around team million. Yep, Nope, that's a one.
Speaker 4: Chris Godwin wide receiver, twenty nine years old. Try and
Speaker 4: get you a veteran wide I'll tell you done.
Speaker 8: It before, and he's had although he's had some injury
Speaker 8: history here recently. I'm not here recently, but recently. You
Speaker 8: talk about a definitive w R.
Speaker 4: Two Chris, that would be Brandon Cooks.
Speaker 5: To me, that's what that would be. Lateral move and
Speaker 5: that it would Brandon Cooks. So I'm gonna say pass.
Speaker 5: I'd rather spend the first round pick on a receiver
Speaker 5: I would.
Speaker 3: Too, Okay, fair, And the more I think about the
Speaker 3: types of injury he's had a cling because then I
Speaker 3: get flashbacks of MG thirteen and we love Michael Gallup,
Speaker 3: but I get flashbacks of that. So pass.
Speaker 4: What about Carlton Davis corner from Detroit.
Speaker 7: Past, because I don't know if he fits in the
Speaker 7: scheme as well. Okay, I think plays a lot of zone.
Speaker 7: He's more of a man guy, So I would say pass.
Speaker 6: How money's he commanding?
Speaker 4: It would probably be closer to what Jay Lou's is
Speaker 4: gonna take?
Speaker 3: Need j Lou that number is, let's go Pat fourteen million.
Speaker 3: That's that's too rich for my that's too.
Speaker 4: That Does it change your mind if it's Travarious Ward,
Speaker 4: of course does change your mind. Yes, okay, he'd probably
Speaker 4: that'd probably be right around the same, right, probably fourteen fifteen.
Speaker 8: Fourteen, that's gonna be a four reference join Lewis projected
Speaker 8: market value is just around two and a half million dollars,
Speaker 8: so we're talking, oh, tens of millions more less so wow,
Speaker 8: So who were talking about Lou's only gonna get two? No, no,
Speaker 8: no again projection. Oh so it's projected. I don't think
Speaker 8: that's right at all. I think Jay Luke could come in.
Speaker 5: That might be updated like three years ago.
Speaker 3: I think you.
Speaker 8: I think Jay Lou ends up at five million, yeah,
Speaker 8: at least all right, So.
Speaker 4: Who am I looking at Travarious Ward to various Yeah,
Speaker 4: one of the best cornerbacks of in the league, at
Speaker 4: least up until this past year. Kind of had a
Speaker 4: down year and had some off the field stuff.
Speaker 3: Oh our Charvarius that we gave Yeah that guy, Okay,
Speaker 3: he actually I priced him out. So looking at my
Speaker 3: open market for defensive backs corners, I'm really trying not
Speaker 3: to spoil this and defensive backs piece will be out
Speaker 3: on Friday. Okay, Dallas dot com, Dallas Cowboys dot com,
Speaker 3: so make sure to check that out. I have tar
Speaker 3: Various Ward. They have him at eighteen million dollars.
Speaker 5: One wow, can have.
Speaker 9: Not have?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 8: You had him and then you sent him away because
Speaker 8: you're panicked because of offensive line injury, and then he
Speaker 8: became Charvarious Ward. That is now worth projected eighteen million
Speaker 8: dollars on the open market.
Speaker 3: That's you had him, you had him in the building.
Speaker 3: That's yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4: To be quicker than that, you gotta be quicker, all right.
Speaker 5: The next one is gonna make you laugh too.
Speaker 4: Amari Cooper, we'll pass.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna pass. I think best days are behind him.
Speaker 4: And uh DJ Reed.
Speaker 5: I skipped DJ Reid because he's.
Speaker 4: Also fifteen million Nord So yeah.
Speaker 15: Uh.
Speaker 4: Center Drew Dahlman, twenty six year old former fourth round pick,
Speaker 4: been one of the best centers in football recently with
Speaker 4: the Las Vegas Raiders. You just haven't heard of him.
Speaker 4: He's actually been pretty good. If you're moving Cooper.
Speaker 7: BB over, if you move bb to guard, then then
Speaker 7: I say sure, But it doesn't sound like that's gonna happen.
Speaker 10: So I say passed.
Speaker 4: His market value is right around let's say four point
Speaker 4: five going, get going and get yeah going and get
Speaker 4: for me?
Speaker 3: Okay, it just it really depends on what they're doing,
Speaker 3: Cooper BB. But I'm more like center, I'm going to say.
Speaker 5: Passed, what seven seven million?
Speaker 4: Get out of here?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: No, are there any other names out there that you
Speaker 4: want at this point, like just looking at the list
Speaker 4: and kind of going down. We can't.
Speaker 5: We don't have time to go through all one over
Speaker 5: the one.
Speaker 4: But I mean, I'll just name a couple of them.
Speaker 4: Stop me if you see one Byron Murphy, Drake Greenlaw,
Speaker 4: Javon Holland. The green Law green Law would be one
Speaker 4: you would love to go get. That's a linebacker. He
Speaker 4: had a torn achilles in the last Super Bowl.
Speaker 5: Remember he kind of.
Speaker 8: Was a freak accident. Why he was an impact player
Speaker 8: before and he was performing under guess who, Nick Sorenson,
Speaker 8: who is now the special teams coordinator for the Cowboys.
Speaker 8: So there's a relationship there. So Drake Greenlaw is one.
Speaker 8: I'll throw one out there for you were talking, we
Speaker 8: were talking defensive backs. A good veteran piece to look
Speaker 8: at adding that would not break the bank would be
Speaker 8: a Jonathan Jones right at a very very record setting
Speaker 8: level for the New England Patriots.
Speaker 5: I got Byron Jones.
Speaker 3: Jonathan Jones.
Speaker 4: Let's heard you know you did?
Speaker 8: Jonathan Jones looks like he's coming in projected around three
Speaker 8: million dollars. I think that's that's doable when you talk
Speaker 8: about Trayvon Diggs not being able to start the season
Speaker 8: likely and then then what's the future of Trayvon Digs
Speaker 8: as far as after that? So I would like the
Speaker 8: Jonathan Jones because you also don't know what Kaitlyn Carson
Speaker 8: is quite yet. He's coming off of a season ending
Speaker 8: shoulder surgery. So yes, Jonathan Jones is a cornerback name
Speaker 8: that I put out there. Okay, here's one that I
Speaker 8: think is a little too expensive and not as expensive
Speaker 8: as various ward but in the same breath as you
Speaker 8: had him in the building. Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson, former
Speaker 8: Cowboys cornerback.
Speaker 6: What a thriller that would be?
Speaker 3: Again, know right? But for seven million dollars? Beat it?
Speaker 3: Uh So? I mean there are several names.
Speaker 6: Who else you get my lover Man, the Man of
Speaker 6: the Mirror.
Speaker 4: What The chat is asking about Darius Slay, would you
Speaker 4: be interested in I would.
Speaker 6: Ask I would I got a name.
Speaker 8: I'm out on Slay because of film. He's too boom
Speaker 8: or bust on the field for me.
Speaker 5: You don't need that.
Speaker 6: This is directed towards my boy Tommy One quarterback Colt
Speaker 6: McCoy formerly of the Chicago Bears. Justin Fields, get him,
Speaker 6: get him Wow Station, you can get him Florida.
Speaker 10: He is better than Cooper Rush and Trey Lance.
Speaker 7: So if you're in house options, because that's what the
Speaker 7: Cowboys are gonna do first, I think Justin Fields gives
Speaker 7: you more.
Speaker 10: Justin Fields is.
Speaker 7: A guy that can develop under Dak Prescott, and he
Speaker 7: might be your quarterback of the future. I'm not saying
Speaker 7: he would be. I'm not saying he would be. I'm
Speaker 7: saying I think he has the talent to get there.
Speaker 7: The biggest knocks on Justin Fields, and rightfully so, are
Speaker 7: there points where he holds the ball way too long
Speaker 7: and he's trying to get something set up, but it's
Speaker 7: just not there downfield. I think part of that is
Speaker 7: a product of bad offensive lines that he's had in
Speaker 7: Chicago and somewhat in Pittsburgh. I think Pittsburgh was significantly better.
Speaker 7: But what he can do with his legs is what
Speaker 7: the Cowboys were hoping they could get with Trey Lance,
Speaker 7: and they just never got really the chance to get
Speaker 7: because he didn't play all that much. I think he
Speaker 7: can make all the throws. He's got a great deep ball.
Speaker 7: If Justin Fields is out there, for the right price,
Speaker 7: go get him.
Speaker 10: He can win you game. Your backup quarter to cut.
Speaker 5: You off the right price is significant.
Speaker 7: For the right price is absolutely significant if your backup
Speaker 7: quarterback is if you're tasking them with winning you games.
Speaker 7: If Dak Prescott goes down, Justin Fields has proven that
Speaker 7: he can win you football games, and with this roster,
Speaker 7: I think he can win you football games.
Speaker 4: It's a different conversation I think now than it would
Speaker 4: have been a couple of years ago around backup quarterback,
Speaker 4: because it used to be, oh, when when Dak goes down,
Speaker 4: it's a rarity, and we're kind of in a bad.
Speaker 5: Spot at that point.
Speaker 4: Anyways, Now it's gotten to the point where it's like, Okay,
Speaker 4: if that goes down, you're wasting the careers of Ceedee
Speaker 4: Lamb and Michael Parsons and some of these other players
Speaker 4: that are great at what they do right now, and
Speaker 4: it's been a little bit more prevalent for Dack to
Speaker 4: be hurt.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's playing it simple.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I would classify him as a
Speaker 4: hurt guy or a prone guy, but the track record
Speaker 4: is he has been off the field a whole lot
Speaker 4: more lately.
Speaker 5: Than he was at the beginning of his career.
Speaker 8: I think, not think, but I know after hearing Tommy
Speaker 8: yoaor state his case, I can unequivocally say that he
Speaker 8: and I are in full agree. Here's what I wrote
Speaker 8: on my quarterbacks portion of open market. Again, check that
Speaker 8: out on Dallas Cowboys dot com, and I quote what
Speaker 8: is fields exactly. See the version of himself that makes
Speaker 8: head coaches in the NFL give up on him, or
Speaker 8: the one that for a time convinces them to here
Speaker 8: to tie their franchise to him for all intents and purposes.
Speaker 8: He had Russell Wilson boxed out in Pittsburgh until he
Speaker 8: didn't and he couldn't get back on the field behind Wilson. Still,
Speaker 8: this is a twenty six year old who is exceptionally
Speaker 8: mobile and reminds me of Trey Lance. So maybe Schottenheimer
Speaker 8: can can turn fields until Will Lance maybe could have
Speaker 8: been in Dallas, but without coughing up a fourth round
Speaker 8: pick to do it.
Speaker 10: Justin Fields was better than Russell Wilson and Pittsburgh Fair.
Speaker 8: And for those that are wondering the price, this price
Speaker 8: is palatable. Spo Track has him projected at six point
Speaker 8: four million dollars.
Speaker 6: Do it for backup, and you're also getting more bad
Speaker 6: in the draft.
Speaker 3: Get them, and you're not giving up a draft pick
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Speaker 4: Yeoman's wrapping up this edition of Talking Cowboys. We don't
Speaker 4: have a ton of time, so I want to know
Speaker 4: how was the shrimp cocktail my friend's trip out to
Speaker 4: Indianapolis for the NFL Combine.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry for those unaware. What is the shrimp cocktail thing?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 5: I'm getting there.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, So this there's these two sister restaurants that
Speaker 4: started at a place that's world famous.
Speaker 5: It's called Saint Elmos. Saint Almos has this.
Speaker 4: Cocktail sauce that you know how it goes with the
Speaker 4: with shrimp cocktail. It's the red sauce with the horse
Speaker 4: radish and whatever they cake this thing with extra horse radish.
Speaker 4: It's basically just to clear your sign is and if
Speaker 4: you don't know what's happening, it's going to knock you
Speaker 4: off your seat and onto the floor. And a lot
Speaker 4: of the times, it's kind of tradition that when the
Speaker 4: NFL Combine goes there and there's all these new reporters
Speaker 4: or new staff members or whoever it ends up being
Speaker 4: making it out to Indianapolis, you sit down and you
Speaker 4: have your first bite of shrimp cocktail and then the
Speaker 4: reaction is what is the fun part? Like what just happened?
Speaker 5: So I want to hear Tommy's react.
Speaker 10: That was little old me.
Speaker 7: Last week in Indianapolis, we had dinner with a group
Speaker 7: of people and the shrimp cocktail gets brought out and
Speaker 7: they you've got crackers. They're sitting with you, and so
Speaker 7: you know, I take my streath to d I cut
Speaker 7: them in half.
Speaker 4: Wait.
Speaker 7: Wait, the first time I did cheat, I'll give you that,
Speaker 7: because I had it with the cracker and I was like, okay, this.
Speaker 10: Isn't half bad. And then the protests begin where oh,
Speaker 10: you can't do I was like, okay, fine, So I
Speaker 10: had the other piece.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, I mean I will never ever have
Speaker 7: a sinus issue again. Everything from here up just came out,
Speaker 7: and I've got tears rolling down my head.
Speaker 10: He's rolling We got tears is.
Speaker 7: Cracking up and and I'm just trying to hold it
Speaker 7: in as best I can, and I'm just saying in
Speaker 7: my head, don't throw up, don't throw It.
Speaker 10: Wasn't it wasn't. It didn't. I don't even know if
Speaker 10: I could have thrown up.
Speaker 7: It just felt like I was going to with how
Speaker 7: much everything was burning and I'm not a big spice guy.
Speaker 10: I don't like spicy food. I can't eat it. Oh
Speaker 10: my goodness. But it was really good.
Speaker 8: And I love hype of spice. Like I told you,
Speaker 8: in fact, it's not a spice that you can prepare fool.
Speaker 3: Nor it's like back your head on firefighter. So we
Speaker 3: look over and I look at Tommy and he's doing
Speaker 3: his best. I mean, he's like and it was equivalent
Speaker 3: to one of the like Looney Tonbes cartoons with a
Speaker 3: face turned. So everybody's like, He's like, like Steve comes
Speaker 3: out and tell me you're okay, and.
Speaker 8: He's like never better, no, no, he finally it just
Speaker 8: melts away and he just gives in to it.
Speaker 3: It was the funniest thing. I love it.
Speaker 4: That's awesome. The first time I had the shrimp cocktail
Speaker 4: was with It was with Nick emn and it was
Speaker 4: with David Hellman and we had like a group of
Speaker 4: people at Saint Elmo's and it was back in twenty twenty,
Speaker 4: right before COVID hit, and there was like a table
Speaker 4: next to me of the Jags front office, like kN
Speaker 4: was there and like I think, uh, I forgot who
Speaker 4: their coach was.
Speaker 5: At the time.
Speaker 4: It wasn't Peterson yet, I don't think, but it was.
Speaker 4: It was one of their head coaches over in that
Speaker 4: corner and I did the same thing. And as I
Speaker 4: was like struggling and sweating and looking around like is
Speaker 4: this supposed to feel like this, they were all laughing
Speaker 4: and like I remember Van Jefferson, who was meeting with
Speaker 4: the Jets at that point, like walked in and like
Speaker 4: was was in the like the table next to me,
Speaker 4: and I looked at him and he like was looking
Speaker 4: at me. He looked terrified, like I'm not getting whatever
Speaker 4: that guy's eating.
Speaker 5: Yeah he was.
Speaker 4: He saw me struggling, and I remember being like, yeah, Van,
Speaker 4: I love your tape at Florida, dude, Like it was fun.
Speaker 8: I remember the first time because like you said it
Speaker 8: so right off, pass it. Yeah, the first time I
Speaker 8: tried it. You go in and you're like, okay, it's shrimp,
Speaker 8: and you know horse radish can be spicy or whatever,
Speaker 8: so you're like okay, no, none, you're talking and then
Speaker 8: immediately I stopped talking, like there I and like you said,
Speaker 8: it feels like it's going to and it's just like
Speaker 8: I don't know what I'm experiencing, but I never want
Speaker 8: experience this again in my life. So if you noticed
Speaker 8: when we were at lunch, I did not eat the
Speaker 8: shrimp cut.
Speaker 5: Oh you didn't do it.
Speaker 3: I've already had it. Veterans move, I've already had it.
Speaker 4: The veteran move is not doing it whenever they bring
Speaker 4: it to you in the morning. And Radio Row there
Speaker 4: was one year as me and Alex, one of our
Speaker 4: producers and editors that's in the building, shoutouts Alex. He
Speaker 4: does the sounds of the sideline. Great job of doing.
Speaker 4: So we were there and they brought out like free
Speaker 4: samples of the shrimp cocktail at Radio Row at the
Speaker 4: convention Center, like heck, yeah, let's get some shrimp cocktail
Speaker 4: because I love spicy. I love it. Oh and I
Speaker 4: was like caking that horse radish. But it was like
Speaker 4: a thirty in the morning and by like nine, I
Speaker 4: was like, that.
Speaker 10: Was a bad eye, bad decision.
Speaker 3: Milk was a bad, bad idea.
Speaker 5: But that's part of it. That's the fun of the
Speaker 5: the NFL Combine. I'm glad you guys were able to go.
Speaker 5: You did great work.
Speaker 4: If you haven't looked at Combine Central on the website yet,
Speaker 4: it's just chuck full of information and rumors and interviews
Speaker 4: and all sorts of stuff. Josh put it all together.
Speaker 4: These two contributed to it. It was just tremendous.
Speaker 8: So go check it out real quick before we leave.
Speaker 8: We didn't get a chance. And I see a lot
Speaker 8: of people in the in the chat bringing up the
Speaker 8: position real quick. Let's run through the running backs free agents.
Speaker 3: Go for it real quick.
Speaker 4: Got a running back?
Speaker 3: I'm going to say a name. Just pass or get
Speaker 3: or get got it? Nick Chubb, pat no, no, get yes,
Speaker 3: Oh yes, go dogs. Aaron Jones.
Speaker 10: Okay, well that's why.
Speaker 3: No, that's not why. Aaron Jones get get yes, get yes, yes,
Speaker 3: get no. Yeah. If you can't beat them, sign them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, a couple more.
Speaker 8: Naja Harris, get Yoe.
Speaker 6: We need running backs, man, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3: If you're getting Harris, then you still need to draft
Speaker 3: a tandem.
Speaker 4: Give me a I think any of these guys that
Speaker 4: you probably draft, just maybe not at twelve, but I
Speaker 4: would draft somebody.
Speaker 6: Yeah, regardless, that's fair.
Speaker 8: Although you could argue that Aaron Jones could he could
Speaker 8: still could be last one.
Speaker 3: JK.
Speaker 8: Dobbins, get mm, what's the number one? Achilles in twenty
Speaker 8: twenty three. Uh JK.
Speaker 3: Dobbins number is drum roll please.
Speaker 8: Four million, go ahead and get yeah, get million, get them. Okay,
Speaker 8: so there you go. Everybody following, And what about ge all.
Speaker 4: Capital all caps, G E T E T. The chat
Speaker 4: was insane by the way today, Thanks guys, we appreciate.
Speaker 3: Some of those running back names.
Speaker 8: Jump in the chat and let us know if you
Speaker 8: would get any of those or if you would tell
Speaker 8: every single one of them to get.
Speaker 6: Love that segment we need to incorporate, get figure it out,
Speaker 6: get or.
Speaker 4: Get or get all Right, that does it for us
Speaker 4: here on Talking Cowboys. We've got to get because the
Speaker 4: draft shows coming up here and a little bit we've
Speaker 4: got Chrispyham in the back, Tommy Yuris, Josh Rodriguez, Patrick,
Speaker 4: No see Walker, I'm Kyle Yellmans. We'll see you next
Speaker 4: week Tuesday with more Talking Cowboys.
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