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Speaker 1: Ridiculous crime. It's a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth Dutton's Saren Burnette. I got a question for you,

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Speaker 2: my friend.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, this is such a wild one. Do you

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Speaker 2: know what's ridiculous?

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, yeah, I do know what's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: I thought you might.

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Speaker 3: I have a question for you, though part of it

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Speaker 3: right back around. Huh yeah, reverse, sir. How much of

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Speaker 3: your beans?

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Speaker 2: My beans?

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Speaker 3: How much are your beans? That's a question you're going

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Speaker 3: to be asking this spring. And you out of the store. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and you see something in the jelly bean You like

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Speaker 3: jelly beans?

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Speaker 2: Not so much? I mean, I'll eat some of them.

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Speaker 2: I grew up near a jelly belly country, so like, yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, they have lots of crazy flavors.

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Speaker 2: So that's what I like, is the crazy jelly beans.

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Speaker 3: I don't like the traditional like, oh, Lime, do you

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Speaker 3: like crazy jelly beans? Oh no?

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Speaker 2: Did I step in it.

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Speaker 3: To quote you? Buckle up, buttercup. This is one hundred

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Speaker 3: percent real. One of the press releases said in twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty six, so there's time this time, I'm ahead of it. Wow,

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Speaker 3: And we got this from a lot of different people there.

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Speaker 3: KFC is releasing jelly beers, and it's coming in three flavors,

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Speaker 3: fried chicken naturally, sweetcorn, sure, and gravy so fried chicken

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Speaker 3: jelly beans.

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Speaker 2: I guess if you eat them all together, you get

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Speaker 2: like a meal.

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Speaker 3: You throw up, throw up.

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Speaker 2: The gravy ones though.

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Speaker 3: Ew, You're like, I'm on a special diet, gravy jelly beans.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to have people over for dinner and just

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Speaker 3: have three bowls. Would you like more sweet corn gravy?

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Speaker 3: A little bit of gravy on that? Thank you so much. Anyway, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, it's really hot out today, Jesus. If it's

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Speaker 3: hot outside, it's hotter inside. You're at headquarters and I'm

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Speaker 3: feeling just woozy, and I'm looking at this and I'm like,

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Speaker 3: did I invent this? Is it real? Anyway, it's going

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Speaker 3: to happen before April. I'm guessing for Easter twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: Oh, there you go for the kids.

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Speaker 3: He has risen, Yeah, to get some KFC jelly brae with.

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Speaker 2: Some gravy jelly beans.

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Speaker 3: So there you go. It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Well you got a second. I got one for you.

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Speaker 3: But they don't here's the thing they don't say how

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Speaker 3: much they're going to be. That's why I was asking.

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Speaker 2: They probably haven't decided because of tariffs, sir, It's true,

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll be like it's five dollars a bag, and

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Speaker 3: then you show up and it's like it's twenty seven

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Speaker 3: dollars a bag. So how much are your beans?

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Speaker 2: Interesting? This story may or may not have beans in

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Speaker 2: it that I was about to tell.

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Speaker 3: You beans, but you have to say it like that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how to say it like beans beans. See,

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Speaker 2: I can't do it only you, Elizabeth Special. Imagine, for

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Speaker 2: whatever reason do you become a fugitive from the law.

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Speaker 2: I can see that happening, right, And so you're living

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Speaker 2: on the lamb, Yeah, for years, living on his prayer.

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Speaker 2: You're good at it. But the whole time you're still

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Speaker 2: using the name your mama gave you, just walking around

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Speaker 2: chilling you in the same name you've always used, living

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Speaker 2: on the line. Thus, as we would say, that would

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Speaker 2: be ridiculous. And that's the story I want to tell

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Speaker 2: you today.

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Speaker 4: Nice.

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Speaker 2: This is Ridiculous Crime a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers,

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Speaker 2: heist and cons. It's always ninety nine percent murder free.

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Speaker 2: And one hundred percent ridiculous. Hooray, Elizabeth. I got to

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Speaker 2: say I really like this guy what I'm about to

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Speaker 2: tell you about, because, for one, he didn't hurt anyone,

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Speaker 2: which I know is important to you. Also, he means

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Speaker 2: well when it comes to his motivation for doing crimes,

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Speaker 2: which is important to both of us. My man's name

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Speaker 2: is Patrick.

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Speaker 3: Critton or Crichton, Patrick Crichton.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll say crittin and get this. Patrick Critton was

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Speaker 2: the first person ever in the history of Canada to

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Speaker 2: successfully hijack that an aircraft.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, congratulations.

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Speaker 2: Not only that, Elizabeth, my man Patrick did this while

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Speaker 2: being black.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what the odds are of you being

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Speaker 2: a black man in Canada? The odds are low, Elizabeth,

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Speaker 2: for me especially, trust me, it's low. It's nil, very

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Speaker 2: nil for you. And if you're not in Toronto with

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Speaker 2: all them West Indian brothers, it's even much lower. And

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Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy, when this story takes place, the population

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Speaker 2: of black folks in Canada was estimated to be between

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Speaker 2: seventy five thousand and one hundred thousand.

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Speaker 3: In all of Canada, all of Canada.

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Speaker 2: While the whole population in Canada at that time was

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Speaker 2: estimated to be twenty one million. Now, if you go

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Speaker 2: to be about zero point zero zero four percent of

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Speaker 3: Wow, I know there's a a big Jamaican community.

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Speaker 2: In Yeah, yes, a bunch of from a bunch of

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Speaker 2: the islands, actually not just Jamaica. But basically, what I'm

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Speaker 2: saying is the odds were stacked against my man Patrick

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Speaker 2: Critton to be the first person to successfully hijack an

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: However, that said, he did have one advantage. He was

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Speaker 2: not Canadian. Oh yeah, okay, he imported himself to commit

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Speaker 3: To really blend in exactly.

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Speaker 2: Now, just because he was the first person to successfully

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Speaker 2: hijack a plane in Canadian history doesn't mean he had

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Speaker 2: to be Canadian in this case. So he wasn't. He

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Speaker 2: was an American, Elizabeth. Do you know what else my

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Speaker 2: man Patrick Critton was. Stop guessing. I'll tell you, crime exporter.

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Speaker 2: He was a revolutionary. He was a radical. He was

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Speaker 2: a courageous warrior for social justice. You see, my man

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Speaker 2: Patrick Critton was a black panther and back in the

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Speaker 2: early seventies. This is the era when criminals and revolutionaries

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Speaker 2: hijacked plane.

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Speaker 3: It's true.

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Speaker 2: So who was this cat?

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Speaker 3: Patrick cru who was this cat?

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Speaker 2: Fantastic question A listen on it. Bring in your a

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Speaker 2: game today. Patrick was born in Harlem, New York. He

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Speaker 2: and I. But he saw our rougher side of that

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Speaker 3: He was that Stevie Wonder living for the city exactly.

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Speaker 2: You can. You can relate it through song.

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent. And I know everything now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because if he was a kid running in the

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Speaker 2: then that makes him a teen in the early sixties

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Speaker 2: when he was living in the Bronx. That's where he

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Speaker 3: Go Tigers totally.

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Speaker 2: Patrick saw firsthand the world changed. Is America desegregated, which

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Speaker 2: schools and drugstore counters and restaurants are being desegregated. But

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Speaker 2: that was also happening in the Northeast, where black folks

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a great example of Boston, exactly.

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Speaker 2: There you go. And this is all thanks to the

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Speaker 2: strides made by the civil rights heroes and workers, those

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Speaker 2: But even in New York, the pace of change wasn't

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Speaker 2: happening fast enough. And that was due to one huge factor, Elizabeth,

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Speaker 2: of course, I'm talking about the NYPD.

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Speaker 3: New York City cups.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the same way they oppressed black jazz musicians in

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Speaker 2: the forties and fifties, they did the same thing pretty

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Speaker 2: much everyone else. It was brown and black in mid

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Speaker 2: experiences of life in mid Central America as a young

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Speaker 2: black man, the NYPD were the pigs who worked for

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Speaker 3: They've done a lot to rehab their image, their image,

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Speaker 3: and you know, yeah, but they were back then the

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Speaker 2: That's why Patrick joined a militant group called the Republic

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Speaker 2: of New Africa. He was in his early twenties at

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Speaker 2: But who or what rather is the Republic of New Africa?

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Speaker 2: Great question? Like, I don't know about you, but I

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Speaker 2: certainly don't remember ever seeing that country on the world map,

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Speaker 2: the Republic of New Africa. I mean, they ain't part

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Speaker 3: He didn't have cool maps.

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Speaker 2: Well, if like me, you're unfamiliar with the Republic of

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Speaker 2: New Africa. As I learned, it was not a nation.

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Speaker 2: It was a radical group that was a spur, an offshoot,

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Speaker 2: a splinter group from the Black Panthers. Now I know

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Speaker 2: that you know about the Black Panther Party being raised

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Speaker 2: When you're growing up, you have like people like, you

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Speaker 2: know what, my sister was in the Panthers.

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Speaker 3: My friends in high school, their parents, okay, and same

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Speaker 3: with my brothers friends. Their parents were Black Panthers. My

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Speaker 3: grandma donated the snick.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, a student Non Violent Coordinating Committee. Nice. So

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Speaker 2: do me a solid and pretend like you don't know

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Speaker 2: about the Panthers so I can tell you more them.

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Speaker 3: I don't know anything. I've seen the film Black Panther

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Speaker 3: and Black Panther Two, not that story.

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Speaker 2: So as the Panthers might say, let me let this

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Speaker 2: wrap on you, sista.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 2: The Black Panther Party for Self Defense was a black

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Speaker 2: power group started by two Oakland locals, Huey P. Newton

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Speaker 2: and Bobby Seal. They met at where Merrit Coule, There

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Speaker 2: you go, and they started talking about what they could

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Speaker 2: do to push forward the civil rights movement. By the

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Speaker 2: time the Panthers got started, Malcolm X had already been

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Speaker 2: assassinated in Harlem, which changes their perspective on how they

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Speaker 2: can get their people free. And they definitely weren't down

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Speaker 2: for mlka's spiritually informed, nonviolent approach. In fact, quite the opposite.

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Speaker 2: Huey Newton and Bobby Seele believed liberation started at the

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Speaker 2: end of a gun, and so in nineteen sixty six,

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Speaker 2: these two young black men start. The Panthers as a

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Speaker 2: militant group meant to provide protection and safety to black

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Speaker 2: communities these days. Are known for a few things. One

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Speaker 2: predominantly is their look, because the Panthers look cool. That's

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Speaker 2: why Beyonce had her dancers dress up like them for

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl performing because it's iconic, right. They wore

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Speaker 2: as you know, black leather jackets. They wore their hair natural,

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Speaker 2: and they topped that off their afros with the black berets. Now,

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Speaker 2: the Panthers were also known for another thing that everybody remembers. Guns, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: namely shotguns. You see, the Panthers took advantage of America's

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Speaker 2: So in nineteen sixty nine, the most powerful law man

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Speaker 3: Well, and if you hobble a populace, you have a

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Speaker 3: They weren't like black Star line, like back to Africa.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, they're cheap to make, well, I know, but.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, you're in a violent world, you know, as a

440
00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:24,240
Speaker 2: young revolutionary.

441
00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:29,080
Speaker 3: Do this in the early seventies, yes, exactly today.

442
00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,280
Speaker 2: Today with the next cartels. No, no, no, no no, because

443
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,320
Speaker 2: if you rob the pimps and the drug dealers, the

444
00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,520
Speaker 2: community would have your back. You'd be like Robinhood figures.

445
00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,000
Speaker 2: The community would they be grateful for you dealing a

446
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,080
Speaker 2: blow to the sorts of crimes that destroyed the community.

447
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 3: If you wore like a cape in the costume while

448
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,720
Speaker 3: you did it, oh my god, Saren.

449
00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,440
Speaker 2: You'd be a hero to the kids there. It is

450
00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,280
Speaker 2: so obviously they chose not to do this because you know,

451
00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,720
Speaker 2: they were at war with the society and they wanted

452
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,360
Speaker 2: to make a bigger stance, so they wanted to take

453
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:56,240
Speaker 2: money from the man.

454
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, you're sticking it to the institutionem hmm.

455
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 2: Now a man Patrick Critton is revolutionary homies. Obviously they

456
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,639
Speaker 2: go the other way. They rob banks, and as you

457
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,360
Speaker 2: might imagine, being amateurs at that as well, it did

458
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 2: not go well. So I mean, sure they did get

459
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,879
Speaker 2: away with some bank robberies. They one hundred percent did

460
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,640
Speaker 2: that up on the Upper East Side in New York

461
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 2: where the rich swells lived. But eventually things went sour

462
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 2: one day and the police came into play. On July

463
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,879
Speaker 2: twenty ninth, nineteen seventy one, Patrick was the lookout for

464
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 2: a bank robbery at Broadway in ninety fourth Street in Manhattan.

465
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,399
Speaker 2: It spiraled out of control. Hostages ended up getting taken.

466
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,400
Speaker 2: Police arrive in time to stop them. There's a shootout

467
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 2: with the NYPD. Two people get hit by gunfire, another

468
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,199
Speaker 2: man gets killed. It was bad. And now I've definitely

469
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,439
Speaker 2: used up our one percent guarantee with this story.

470
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 3: I'm looking at the at the dial on the wall,

471
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,679
Speaker 3: the needle. It's a hard one percent.

472
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have anywhere glass to go.

473
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 3: You keep it up. I'm gonna just cut your mic.

474
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 2: Luckily, this is it. This is all I got for

475
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 2: you anyway. Again, Patrick Critton manages to escape unharmed after

476
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 2: he and his fellow young fearless revolutionaries used the hostages

477
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,919
Speaker 2: as human shields to cover their attempt to flee. Now

478
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 2: he's officially a wanted man.

479
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 3: See that's the thing is that you say, I'm doing

480
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 3: this like for the people to stick it to the man.

481
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 3: No you're not. You're you're traumatizing regular people.

482
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 2: This is why you got to rob Himpson drug dealers.

483
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,880
Speaker 3: Him talking about you need to do a Ted talk.

484
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 2: I really should.

485
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 5: So.

486
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 2: At this point, Patrick is twenty four years old, He's

487
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 2: facing serious charges. So what does he do? Well, just

488
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,359
Speaker 2: like Rick James fleeing from the Vietnam Draft, he takes

489
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 2: off and crosses the border to Canada.

490
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 3: Nice.

491
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 2: It's so nice there, Oh you better believe it, eh.

492
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 2: Unlike Rick James, though, he doesn't move in with a

493
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 2: young Neil Young and start a band I know. Instead,

494
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 2: he starts planning for his next revolutionary action. He's an

495
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 2: armed wanted man kicking around Canada and at some point, now,

496
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 2: at some point though, he gets his hands on a grenade,

497
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 2: like you know, like one of those like pineapple grenades.

498
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that just happens upon one Well.

499
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 2: I think he knew some revolutionaries. You're like, man, you

500
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 2: need to get some protection. There.

501
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,919
Speaker 3: Here's a grenade they're retiring and they like, will it

502
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 3: you know what, take box of stuff, like you already

503
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 3: have a copy of The Anarchistic Cook. Okay, fine, Oh

504
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 3: but this grenade.

505
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 2: Oh, pineapple grenade, that will be handy.

506
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

507
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 2: He also gets a thirty eight pistol, because you know,

508
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 2: it's a small pistol, something you can secret on your person. Yeah.

509
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 2: So with that, he decides, I am now armed enough

510
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 2: to put my new plan into action.

511
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

512
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 2: It's the day after Christmas nineteen seventy one, Boxing day

513
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 2: exactly in Canada, the day it's a holiday boxing day,

514
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 2: and that's the day he decides will be the date

515
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,679
Speaker 2: of his next revolutionary action. So he heads out to

516
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,880
Speaker 2: the airport at thunder Bay, Ontario, which, if you're unfamiliar

517
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 2: Canadian geography, it's in northwestern Ontario. It's a it's a

518
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 2: city located on the banks of Lake Superior. Yeah, and

519
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 2: that's where this young radical boards in air Canada flight

520
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 2: to Toronto. He has with him his little snub nose

521
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 2: thirty eight and the aforementioned grenade. One grenade please one.

522
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 2: And back then there weren't all the metal detectors, so

523
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,479
Speaker 2: he is easily able to sneak his gun and his

524
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 2: grenade onto the flight. The flight takes off, it's airborne.

525
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,439
Speaker 2: Once the seat belt light goes off, the flight tendants

526
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 2: begin drink service. Patrick Critton orders and as he's like,

527
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 2: you know, up there enjoying the flight, he bides his

528
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 2: time and then he decides like, Okay, I'm gonna go

529
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 2: for it. But rather than me tell you about him

530
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 2: going forward, Elizabeth, I'd like you to close your eyes

531
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:26,439
Speaker 2: as a close and I'd like you to picture it. Elizabeth,

532
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 2: you are happily situated in a jump seat on an

533
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,439
Speaker 2: Air Canada flight from thunder Bay headed to Toronto. The

534
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 2: takeoff was uneventful, the flight starts out quite smoothly. You

535
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 2: pass up through the clouds and then you're there in

536
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 2: the wild blue yonder, high above the Earth, looking down

537
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 2: on the green expanses far below. That's your signal to

538
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 2: get up, because you are a flight attendant working this flight,

539
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 2: which means it's time for you to offer the passengers

540
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 2: a refreshment, perhaps a snack of peanuts. At one row,

541
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 2: you greet an older lady and her seat mate, a

542
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 2: young black man with a resplendent and wellcroif daffro. He

543
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 2: looks up at you, and the lady is busy reading

544
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 2: from a copy of Life magazine. You ask if either

545
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,360
Speaker 2: of them would care for drinks or snacks. They both

546
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 2: say yes to the drinks, no to the snacks. The

547
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 2: lady asks for an orange juice on ice, the young

548
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 2: man asked for ginger ale in the can. You pour

549
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 2: the drinks and then hand them over to the passenger.

550
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 2: Both begin to enjoy their tasty cold beverages while you

551
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 2: attend to other rows. The young man pulls out a

552
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 2: pen and he scribbles a note on the napkin he

553
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 2: received with his can of ginger ale. Half hour or

554
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 2: so later, when you come back around to collect the

555
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 2: empty glasses, the young black man hands back his empty

556
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 2: can of ginger ale. He also hands you his handwritten note. Curious,

557
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 2: you take the note. It's not the first time someone

558
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 2: has slipped you a note. You read it, and then

559
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 2: you gasp. Turns out the handwritten note is not a

560
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 2: love note. Instead, it reads think we have fragmentation grenades

561
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 2: and a thirty eight caliber revolver take me to the captain,

562
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 2: we are going to Havana. This is no joke. That's

563
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 2: how the skyjacking begins. You think, man, he looked like

564
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 2: such a nice young man. I would have never suspected

565
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 2: he was a political terrorist. You've heard this happens, but

566
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 2: you've never expected it to happen to you. As instructed,

567
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 2: you take the terrorists to meet the captain. Meanwhile, the

568
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 2: young man from seat seventeen A with the grenade and

569
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 2: handgun is a most considerate terrorist because even though he

570
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 2: hijacks the plane, he tells the pilot that the plane

571
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 2: is allowed to continue on to Toronto, And so when

572
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 2: the plane touches down in Toronto, the young man allows

573
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 2: everyone else who's not part of the flight crew to

574
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 2: leave the plane. Then, once the plane is evacuated, he

575
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 2: calmly orders the pilot to take off again. For the

576
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 2: next few hours, you nervously watch the ground far below

577
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 2: as the plane diverts south across the United States. First

578
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 2: you see the farmlands of the Midwest, the rivers and

579
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 2: patchworks of fields that gives way to the mountains of Appalachia,

580
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 2: which then once again turns back to the patchwork quilled

581
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 2: of farmland of southern Georgia and northern Florida. That eventually

582
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 2: becomes the swampy expanses of the Everglades, which finally gives

583
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 2: way to the Miami area, soon followed by the string

584
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 2: of aisles of the Florida Keys connected by a ribbon

585
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 2: of low Bridge Roads. What's strange is that the whole

586
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 2: time the terrorist who hijack your flight isn't being mean

587
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 2: and scary, quite the opposite. He keeps making jokes. He's

588
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 2: showing you pictures of his family and children. You even

589
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 2: find yourself laughing often. You never expect a terrorist to

590
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 2: have a lively sense of humor. Then you see the

591
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 2: bright blue of the Caribbean waters and finally your new destination,

592
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 2: the port city of Havana, Cuba. You wonder if you're

593
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 2: going to have to become a pawn in his political intrigue.

594
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 2: You didn't bring clothes for the climate in Cuba. However,

595
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 2: once the plane lands, the young man with the grenade

596
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 2: and handgun thanks you and the rest of the flight

597
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 2: crew for being so cooperative. He then says he's goodbyes,

598
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 2: wishes you luck on your flight home, and he happily

599
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 2: deep planes. He seems he just needed a ride to Cuba.

600
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 2: After he steps off the plane, you see he is

601
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 2: met by Cuban military personnel. Meanwhile, the pilots do not

602
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 2: wait around. They tax you down the runway and head

603
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 2: for the safety of the sky. As the plane climbed

604
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 2: back up into the clouds, you think to yourself, Wow,

605
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 2: what a strange day. But now you have one hell

606
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 2: of a story for your next blind data at a

607
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 2: Toronto singles bar. So there you go. My man Patrick's

608
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 2: done it. He got himself to Havana.

609
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 3: If I'm a lady who orders the orange juice, I'd

610
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 3: be like I would have wanted to go to Havana, Like, give.

611
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 2: Me a chance. I've always wanted to go to Do

612
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 2: they still have the casinos?

613
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 3: NOA okay.

614
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 2: So, unlike his amateur bomb making career, his work as

615
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 2: a lookout for bank robberies, this time his career as

616
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 2: a radical criminal goes off without a hitch.

617
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 3: Well, and he's lucky that. I mean, he was on

618
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 3: a short haul flight and they had enough fuel to

619
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 3: get right to Havana and then hop up. I mean,

620
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 3: they're obviously going to go right.

621
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 2: To Miami Atlanta. But wow, I know I was struck

622
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 2: by that as well. I'm guessing he probably got some

623
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 2: fuel in Toronto, like topp her off.

624
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 3: I don't know, Oh yeah, I could see that maybe.

625
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it wasn't in the news stories. They didn't

626
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 2: have all the particulars of like and then he had

627
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 2: the gas.

628
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 3: Sharts come out logistics.

629
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. So now, my man Patrick Critten, he's in Havana, Cuba, which,

630
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 2: as you probably know, means he's safe from both American

631
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 2: and Canadian law enforcement since Cuba didn't have any sort

632
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 2: of extradition treaty with either country, which means even though

633
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 2: he showed up with a stolen airplane, Cuba wasn't going

634
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 2: to send him back to face justice. But being a

635
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 2: young revolutionary who looked up to what Fidel Castro and

636
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: che Guavara had done in Cuba with their successful revolution,

637
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 2: he expected he'd be received and welcomed as a fellow revolutionary.

638
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 2: What he didn't expect was that he'd have to face

639
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:20,479
Speaker 2: justice in Cuba.

640
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

641
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because Fidel don't play. He gets arrested in Cuba,

642
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 2: he's not welcomed as a fellow revolutionary. Instead, he's handing

643
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 2: an eight month long prison sentence.

644
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 3: Well, I mean think about it. You did the episode

645
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 3: about trying to kill.

646
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: Him, right, Yeah, six hundred and thirty eight ways to

647
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 2: try to kill you.

648
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 3: So he's gonna think like, is this one of the ways,

649
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 3: whether it's spot off you know this like Trojan Horse

650
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 3: of this guy who's in the like the regalia, he

651
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 3: looks like like the revolutionary costume totally and he's going

652
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 3: to come in and somehow he got a ride on

653
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 3: a Canadian jet and they just dumped him and left.

654
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 2: And he brings no people with him, No, just him

655
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: by himself.

656
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 3: All he's got is his gun and his grenade. He

657
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 3: one of his family. I'd be like, yes, son, like

658
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 3: this is I don't trust this?

659
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. What better way for the CIA to sneak

660
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 2: some guy in than just sent one guy hello.

661
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 3: Assault jaired hoover in front of him and if he's

662
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 3: like wait what oh no, never mind, Oh we caught

663
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 3: him slipped up. You messed up there, dude.

664
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 2: So he gets sent to a special prison that Fidel

665
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 2: has arranged. Four skyjackers. Wait, there were so many hijackers

666
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 2: coming into Cuba with diverted flights. They had a place

667
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 2: called Casa de Transitos, which translates to mean house of hijackers.

668
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 2: It was a prison just for hijackers.

669
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 3: That's the other thing. He's probably like, how do I

670
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 3: get it through their skulls? We don't want you guys here.

671
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, there were sixty of them in the house. Date

672
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 2: transitos sixty hijackers at the Yes. So because he couldn't

673
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 2: have your legit or not, so you had to, like,

674
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 2: you know, suss you out in prison. Yeah, And like

675
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 2: most Cuban prisons, it was not somewhere you wanted to be.

676
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 2: It was not a minimum security facility with pleasant amenities. No,

677
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 2: it was a tropical prison. Each hijacker had to sell.

678
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 2: That was four feet by four feet, your kids sixteen

679
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 2: square feet. Oh yeah, not enough to lie down. You're

680
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: sitting there in the fetal position if you want to sleep.

681
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 2: It was a rough eight month prison stay. Yeah, so

682
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,719
Speaker 2: much for the revolutionary solidarity. So after serving his eight

683
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 2: month sentence, the young revolutionary gets released. Now was he

684
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 2: embraced by Cuba and treated as a fellow revolutionary.

685
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 3: They put him on a raft.

686
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 2: No, But if you guessed hell no, you would be

687
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: right there. Because instead he was forced to work in

688
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 2: the backbreaking sugarcane fields, and if you know anything about

689
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 2: the history of Cuba, that's where the slaves used to work.

690
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: He's now doing the slave labor of early colonialism and

691
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 2: he's stuck working at these slave labor conditions for two years,

692
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 2: basically another form of outdoor prison. Oh man, I guess

693
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 2: he didn't see that coming when he was dreaming about

694
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 2: going to Cuba.

695
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 3: You know, it's we had. There's the dream of the

696
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 3: revolution and then the reality we see that played out

697
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 3: over and over.

698
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 2: It completely because who would ever steal a plane in

699
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 2: order to become a slave in Cuba? You know, like

700
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 2: that chits is not in the cars.

701
00:31:58,840 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

702
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 2: Eventually he gets free of the sugarcane fields after two

703
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 2: years and he leaves Cuba. At this point he's like,

704
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,239
Speaker 2: I have enough of Cuba, so long feed out right?

705
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 5: Yeah?

706
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 2: You know? Is it viacn dios my Brosa. So since

707
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 2: he's an international fugitive now he's limited to where he

708
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 2: can relocate, so he picks Tanzania. He goes over to

709
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 2: Africa and that's where he becomes a school teacher. Now

710
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: finally his life begins to improve. At this point, he's

711
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: like twenty seven years old. Wow, he's had a rough

712
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 2: couple years now. Naturally, even though he's an international fugitive,

713
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 2: he still desires a normal life. So that's what he does.

714
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 2: He builds himself a normal life in Tanzania. He falls

715
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: in love, he gets married, he has two boys. He

716
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 2: works as a history teacher. Things must have been good

717
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 2: for him or at least passable, because he stays in

718
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: Tanzania for twenty years.

719
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 3: Wow.

720
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he becomes a prince productive, respective member of his community.

721
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 2: He volunteers at church. I mean, he's doing the whole bit,

722
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 2: school teacher. But I guess he missed America because in

723
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety one he applied for a new US passport.

724
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 2: What and this is my favorite part of his story. Sorry,

725
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 2: he applies for his US passport using his actual name.

726
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: The man is a wanted international fugitive from justice. Yeah,

727
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 2: and he's like, is Patrick Critton?

728
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I understand missing the US, but like, come on,

729
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 3: you've got like you've built a.

730
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 2: Life, Yeah, exactly, might as well stay in Tanzania or

731
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: if you're going to try to come back to America

732
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 2: pick another name.

733
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 3: Brother went to Tanzania totally.

734
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 2: And also, by the way, they never stopped trying to

735
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 2: bust international fugitives. Oh yeah, it's like a big deal.

736
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 2: So he's apparently far more optimistic than I would be,

737
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 2: because he's like, yes, I would like one US passport please.

738
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 2: My name is Patrick Crises. Yeah, like nineteen ninety one.

739
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 2: I guess whoever was at the State Department received his application.

740
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 2: They didn't cross check the list of international fugitives and

741
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 2: the FBI's most wanted list because his passport application gets approved. Way,

742
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: he gets a new US passport sent to him in Tanzania,

743
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 2: and I assume one for his wife and a couple

744
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 2: for his two boys. Yeah, now, my man, he doesn't

745
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 2: return to the US right away. He like lets his

746
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 2: cool off a little bit. He waits a few years,

747
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 2: and then in nineteen ninety four, he moves back to

748
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 2: the United States. He flies from Tanzandia into New York.

749
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 3: Wow.

750
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 2: There when he gets to customs, he presents his new

751
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 2: US passport. Elizabeth, what do you think happens when this

752
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 2: wanted fugitive lands in America? This brand new passage with

753
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 2: only one stand.

754
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 3: It's one thing to get the passport, it's another to

755
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 3: walk through customs.

756
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 2: Totally, So customs officials are all smiles, and they welcome

757
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 2: him back to the US.

758
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 3: Oh really.

759
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 2: After his warm welcome, he sets up in New York

760
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 2: and he goes to work as a school teacher and

761
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 2: you know that that takes fingerprinting and background checks and

762
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 2: it did back in nineteen ninety four. Wait what yes,

763
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: So keep in mind he's using the exact same name

764
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 2: for back when he's a revolutionary robbing banks, building bombs,

765
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 2: skyjacking planes, and he gets to become a school teacher.

766
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 2: He passes the background What background checks were they doing?

767
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,919
Speaker 3: Oh? Man? Yeah?

768
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 2: Right, So he also passes multiple background checks because he

769
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 2: also goes to work for the New York Board of

770
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 2: Education as an SAT Prep class teacher his well, not

771
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 2: just a substitute teacher, but like, oh okay, we really

772
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: want to check you. And then as his new but

773
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,720
Speaker 2: still same old self, he moves upstate to Mount Vernon,

774
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 2: New York, and he gets another school teacher job and

775
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 2: where he also works as the director of a youth

776
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 2: shelter in Westchester County.

777
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 3: So instead another district that should be they tested.

778
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 2: Him again, so he somehow stays under the radar for years. Wow,

779
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 2: but you know how they say no good d goes unpunished.

780
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 2: This is a perfect example of how that.

781
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 3: Saying came to be deed goes unpunished either.

782
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely know those, but no good d. Because back

783
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 2: in Canada, there was this one detective who was part

784
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 2: of a newly formed cold case unit. Yeah, and by

785
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 2: now it's two thousand and one and there's this new

786
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 2: investigative tool called the Internet. So one day, this one

787
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 2: Canadian detective, Donald Jorgensen, who was part of the newly

788
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 2: formed cold case unit, opts to use this wondrous new tool,

789
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 2: the Internet, to help him solve the backlog of cold cases.

790
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 2: As his boss, Superintendent Edward Toy tells it, he wanted

791
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 2: to know what was the oldest case we had and

792
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 2: this was it. Eh So, the first successful plane hijacking

793
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 2: in Canada, dating back to nineteen seventy one. So Detective

794
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 2: Jorgenson starts to investigate. He types the name Patrick Critton

795
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 2: into the search bar and boom up pops the name

796
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 2: of a humble schoolteacher working at Upstate New York. You see,

797
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 2: Patrick was featured in a news story about working at

798
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 2: a youth shelter.

799
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 3: Patrick.

800
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 2: The newspaper story was from March of two thousand and

801
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,720
Speaker 2: one from the Journal News of Westchester County. In the story,

802
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 2: a local school teacher named Patrick Critton is cited for

803
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 2: his work with disadvantage black youth at a local youth shelter.

804
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 2: It's a feel good story. The story talks about how

805
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 2: he's the director of the Community School Initiative in Mount

806
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 2: Vernon and how he spends his days mentoring kids, doing

807
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 2: all this good work in the community. The Canadian cop

808
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 2: reads this and he's like, I think that's our Skyjackery.

809
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 2: Oh no, and he thinks to him, stuff, we can

810
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 2: get this, Holser, we know right where he is. However,

811
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 2: first to have to prove that this beloved school teacher

812
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 2: and youth mentor is the same guy as the wanted

813
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 2: international fugitive terrorist. Yeah, just because they have the same

814
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 2: name doesn't mean it's the same guy. Elizabeth. Okay, let's

815
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: take another break and after some ads, we'll see how

816
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 2: this tale of cops and robbers plays out. Elizabeth seven,

817
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 2: we're back, ready to hear how this one wraps up

818
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 2: very much So yes, okay, So we have our Canadian

819
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,439
Speaker 2: cold case detective detective Jorgenson who's found a lead by

820
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: using Google, but he's not certain it's the same man

821
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 2: as the wanted international fugitive terrorist. Yeah, Like, what are

822
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 2: the odds? And a wanted man would still be using

823
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 2: the same name and working in the same state where

824
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 2: he pulled off his crimes. Yeah, Plus he would be

825
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 2: highly embarrassing to be wrong and to harass an innocent

826
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 2: school teacher. So the detective knows he needs more confirmation

827
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: before they can spring into action. Yeah, So Detective Jorgenson

828
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 2: reaches out to the NYPD and the FBI. He contacts

829
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: the Joint Terrorist Task Force because hijacking a plane is

830
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 2: considered terrorism, and he tells them what he's found just

831
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 2: by using Google in. The FBI and the NYPD are like, wow,

832
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 2: why didn't we think of that.

833
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 3: Two thousand and one, oh, early.

834
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 2: Two thousand and one, mar that's what you just typed

835
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: his name into the search bar and you found him. Oh,

836
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 2: we got to start trying that anyway. The FBI and

837
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 2: the NYPD Joint Terrorist Task Force puts Patrick Critton under surveillance,

838
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 2: and they also compare Patrick Critton of two thousand and

839
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 2: one with what they know about the young revolutionary who

840
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 2: skyjacked a plane back in nineteen seventy one.

841
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 3: Yeah.

842
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 2: The two men turn out to be the same height,

843
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 2: about five foot four. They check his old employment records

844
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 2: and they find that Patrick Critton graduated from Hunter College

845
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 2: back in nineteen sixty nine and he worked as a

846
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 2: public school teacher briefly, which lines up with two thousand

847
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 2: and one Patrick Critton, who works as a school teacher

848
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 2: in the summer and he runs the youth shelter the

849
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 2: rest of the year. The NYPD detectives also find an

850
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 2: old fingerprint card from nineteen ninety four, patrick Critten first

851
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 2: returned to the US and started to work as a

852
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 2: substitute teacher in the Brooklyn School District. The detectives compared

853
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 2: that to a fingerprint card dating back to nineteen sixty

854
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 2: nine when he was a school teacher originally, and the

855
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 2: two fingerprints seem to match.

856
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

857
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 2: In order to avoid any lawsuits or bad publicity, NYPD

858
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 2: and FBI they want to get stronger evidence that this

859
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 2: is the same Patrick Critten, as these are not two

860
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 2: different men with very similar fingerprints, So they came up

861
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 2: with a plot to trick him into giving them a

862
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 2: more recent fingerprint, one that they can match to some

863
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 2: evidence that was taken from the plane hijack. Ye. Now

864
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 2: the FBI, they start staking his home. They stake out

865
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 2: his work, the school where he's teaching summer school, so

866
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 2: they were familiar with the route he took to and

867
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 2: from work. And they dream up the perfect trap to

868
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 2: snag a kind heart like Patrick, something he would fall for.

869
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 2: And they decide to use an imaginary missing kid. Oh MANPD. Yeah,

870
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 2: So on August fifteenth, two thousand and one, the investigators,

871
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 2: they post a bunch of flyers up the neighborhood around

872
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 2: Patrick Critton's home, then asked for help to find this

873
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 2: missing girl who's taken from the Bronx. And they also

874
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 2: have some detectives working as undercover on the route and

875
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 2: they're working as like volunteers, and the same route that

876
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 2: they know he walks each morning to work. And they

877
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,479
Speaker 2: have had these detectives out there asking passerbys for help

878
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 2: to find this missing child, just like they knew he would.

879
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 2: Patrick walks past them and one of the NYPD detectives

880
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 2: stops Him's like, hey, mister, have you seen this little girl?

881
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 2: They hand him a photo of the missing girl. Happy

882
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 2: to help, Patrick takes a look at it and he nope,

883
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 2: hands it back to the cops and he said he

884
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 2: had not you know, had not seen the girl, and boom,

885
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 2: here's your photo back, as Inspector Wells of the NYPD recalls,

886
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 2: he touched the photo and handed it back and that's it.

887
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 2: We got prints on him. Five days later they get

888
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 2: the results back from forensics. The prince on the photo

889
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 2: match Prince taken from a can of ginger rail from

890
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 2: the hijacked place.

891
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 3: See that's up until this point. I was like, he

892
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 3: could say that. When I was in New York, there

893
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 3: was a guy that I hung around with who was

894
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 3: like a cuckoo revolutionary and he must used to use

895
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 3: my identity, use my identity to do this, and that

896
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 3: wasn't me.

897
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: You know.

898
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 3: He stole a bunch of my stuff and my passport

899
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 3: was one thing. Mm hmm.

900
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 2: Now he's tied directly to the hijacking thanks to a

901
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 2: can of ginger ale. Oh Patrick, Yeah, So the n

902
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 2: YVD they call the cold case detective Detective Jorgenson up

903
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 2: in Canada and they tell him to pop on down

904
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 2: to the Stays because we found your man. To detect him.

905
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 2: Jorgensen gets on the first available flight that does not

906
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 2: get hijacked. This is two thousand and one, and things

907
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 2: are a little more kosher then for now.

908
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 3: Well, and it's it's August two thousand and one.

909
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 2: At this point, Elizabeth, it's September ninth. Stop it Saturday.

910
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 2: International joint task forts of Canadian detectives, FBI agents and

911
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,439
Speaker 2: NYPD detectives knock on the door of Patrick Critten's first

912
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 2: floor apartment in Mount Vernon. When he opens the door

913
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 2: and he sees all the law enforcement gathered from the

914
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 2: international task force created specifically to bust him, Patrick doesn't

915
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 2: start shooting, doesn't go for one grenade, He doesn't slam

916
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 2: the door in their face and try to flee out

917
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 2: the back. Instead, he calmly says, what took you so long?

918
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 2: I've been waiting for that knock on the door for

919
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 2: seven years direct quote.

920
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 3: Wow.

921
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 2: News of his arrest breaks a few days later, But

922
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: the news of his arrest after his thirty year life

923
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 2: on the LAMB as an international fugia dive from justice

924
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 2: is totally overshadowed because there's a much bigger terrorist news

925
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 2: that breaks on September eleventh, two thousand and one.

926
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 3: Wow.

927
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 2: Yes, that's why his story gets swept under history's right Yeah.

928
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 2: Turns out folks were far more focused on a different

929
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 2: news story of that day, Elizabeth.

930
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

931
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 2: However, the New York Times still covered his arrest in

932
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 2: the morning edition on nine to eleven. No way, the

933
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 2: New York Times news stary reported that quote, thirty years

934
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 2: after a Black Power revolutionary hijacked a jetliner from Ontario

935
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 2: to Cuba and disappeared, Canadian and federal authorities matched the

936
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 2: fingerprints he left on a can of ginger ale in

937
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 2: the airplane with those of a teacher in Westchester County

938
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 2: and charged the teacher with the crime yesterday.

939
00:42:58,320 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 3: That's incredible.

940
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 2: Now, the cops admit that the had to admit rather

941
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 2: that the statue of limitations for his bomb making and

942
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 2: the bank robbing had expired, so he was not going

943
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 2: to be charged for any of his crimes in the

944
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 2: United States. Okay, but there was still the skyjacking. The

945
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,720
Speaker 2: terrorist charges did not have a statute of limitations. Interesting

946
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 2: because yeah, they just don't expire. So he was taken

947
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,760
Speaker 2: into a Manhattan courtroom. He's charged with armed robbery, kidnapping,

948
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 2: an extortion from the skyjacking. The arresting officers described the

949
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 2: former revolutionaries being relieved that his life on the land

950
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 2: was finally over, and they said his personal demeanor was

951
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,720
Speaker 2: quote polite, helpful, and accommodating.

952
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 3: Wow.

953
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. So when the news of his arrest breaks, the

954
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 2: New York Times interviewed his current colleagues and co workers, like,

955
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 2: for instance, Ronald Ross, the superintendent of the Mount Vernon

956
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 2: City School District. He told The New York Times the

957
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 2: students were just devastated. He was one of the most

958
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 2: respected people in the school district. You couldn't have asked

959
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 2: for a more model citizen. If Mother Teresa had done

960
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 2: this or the Pope, I wouldn't have been more shocked.

961
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 3: Oh wow, he went all in.

962
00:43:58,560 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: On the Pope and Mother Teresa.

963
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, he put it on their names. Right.

964
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: So the principal where he taught summer school, doctor Judith Cronin, said, quote,

965
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 2: we really loved this man because he was a real

966
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: spark in the community and committed to our kids. He

967
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 2: was tops in our book. A lot of kids cried

968
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 2: when he left, but I told him that was his

969
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 2: former life. We can still honor him for the work

970
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 2: he did in our building and not abandon all the

971
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 2: trust and honor he brought here.

972
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 3: Oh that's really nice.

973
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 2: I thought so, I thought you liked that. So he

974
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 2: was so beloved that the principal had to hold a

975
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 2: special assembly at the school to tell them to inform

976
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 2: the students about the news of mister Critton being busted

977
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 2: by the FBI. And then hours later, maybe two hours,

978
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 2: they held a second assembly to tell the students about

979
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,720
Speaker 2: nine to eleven plane crashing into the World Trade Center buildings.

980
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 2: Because these their parents are probably you know.

981
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 3: Commuters, well, and it's it's close, it's mount Verb's not

982
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 3: that and even if they're not commuters, I mean, like

983
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 3: all the all of their law enforcement's going to have

984
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,240
Speaker 3: to go down to supplement.

985
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 2: To devastating moment.

986
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 3: The whole thing is just so the principle is like,

987
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 3: you know, she walks out of the first one, just drained.

988
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 2: That was a tough day for these kids. Are going

989
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 2: to have to have to take some adjustice time, and

990
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: what a shock for these young kids.

991
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 3: Yay, I just I can't you know. And then yeah,

992
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 3: now it's like okay plus some yes, a million.

993
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 2: Then the scope changes entirely. So at this point, Patrick

994
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 2: Critton gets extradited to Canada to stand trial for his skyjacking,

995
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 2: and when his case comes to trial in Canada. It

996
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 2: was a post nine to eleven world. So this complicates

997
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 2: the narrative because as a skyjacker, he typically would have

998
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,479
Speaker 2: been labeled as a terrorist. But what Patrick did, having

999
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 2: the pilots fly him to Cuba and allowing the plane

1000
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 2: to safely return to Canada after deplanning everybody in Toronto,

1001
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 2: and then also nobody gets harmed, and he's he's, you know,

1002
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 2: comparing him to the nine to eleven hijackers and what

1003
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 2: they did. You've got this Canadian prosecutor who's like, he's like, okay,

1004
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 2: let's just focus on the revolutionary bomb maker and the

1005
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 2: bank robbing and the kidnapping and talk about that instead

1006
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 2: of because otherwise you're like, he wasn't really dangerous. He

1007
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 2: was like joking with the people on the plane about that.

1008
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 3: If it's like, it's pretty hard the statute of limit

1009
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 3: Canadian country.

1010
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know Canadian law.

1011
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if they're allowed to introduce that information.

1012
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 2: If it was law and order, I could tell you no.

1013
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 2: But this is real. I don't know. So the prosecution

1014
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 2: doesn't have to. They aren't so hamstrung by the comparisons

1015
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: to the much more heinous flight hijackers because Patrick Critton

1016
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 2: he pleads guilty to the charges of extortion and kidnapping,

1017
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 2: so that means the judge doesn't seek the standard ten

1018
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 2: to twelve year sentence and instead gives them a more

1019
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 2: lenient five year sentence. To explain their choice of leniency,

1020
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 2: the judge for his case pointed out that he hadn't

1021
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 2: harmed anyone in the commission of his skyjacking, and that

1022
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 2: quote the crew said that he was joking with them

1023
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 2: and showing them pictures of his children.

1024
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1025
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 2: So Patrick Critton was locked up in Canadian prison and

1026
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 2: then he gets released early in June two thousand and

1027
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 2: three for good behavior. Upon his release, he's deported back

1028
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 2: to the US where he doesn't have to stand trial

1029
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 2: for the bank robbery and the bomb making revolutionary activity since,

1030
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 2: as I said, statute limitations have expired. So when the

1031
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 2: principal of the school where he taught summer school finds

1032
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 2: out that he's free, she's all excited. Doctor Croner reportedly

1033
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 2: told the press the sixties were some crazy times. People

1034
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 2: were passionate about things, and Patrick was committed to the

1035
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 2: panthers and to a cause. Now he's committed to helping

1036
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 2: people here, and we're happy he'll be back in the community.

1037
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 3: I love it.

1038
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 2: So there you go, Elizabeth is basically the happy ish ending.

1039
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 3: I think.

1040
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 2: So the young revolutionary steels playing, flies to Cuba, becomes

1041
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 2: school teacher in Tanzania, and then, defying all logic for

1042
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 2: a man who's an international fuguitive, if he goes back

1043
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 2: to the US to return to being a school teacher.

1044
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 3: It's incredible. That is absolutely and I can't believe, like

1045
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 3: I'm thinking that the Canadian prison is a cake walk

1046
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 3: compared to the Cuban Jason.

1047
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 2: I think we can safely say that, yeah, yeahah. So

1048
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 2: perhaps it is like they used to tell me when

1049
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 2: I was a boy, honesty is the best policy, after all,

1050
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 2: It's true. But if I'm ever to become an international

1051
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,959
Speaker 2: fugitive from the law, I am not going by Zarren

1052
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 2: Burnett the third because I'm gonna have to change up

1053
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 2: my name. Maybe I'll go by like Dizzy maguire.

1054
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 3: Why don't you just you can use my passport?

1055
00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 2: There you go, Yeah, perfect, They'll buy it. So what's

1056
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 2: a ridiculous digaway?

1057
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 3: I think it's what's fascinating is the talking about revolutionaries

1058
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 3: and this notion of you know, this great grand vision

1059
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 3: you know that you have and I don't want to

1060
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 3: call it naive, but you know, you have this idea

1061
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 3: of how things can go and what you want to

1062
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 3: fight for. And then there's the reality of it. Like

1063
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,280
Speaker 3: I said, we've seen this over and over and over again,

1064
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 3: and I think you have to temper your desires to

1065
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 3: meet reality in terms of change. And I you know,

1066
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 3: I feel for him because he was in this situation

1067
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 3: that was for him growing up is basically untenable, you know,

1068
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 3: and living under a what was a police state, you know,

1069
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 3: and just fearing for his life and also wanting that,

1070
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 3: you know, that recognition of his own humanity, and that

1071
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,919
Speaker 3: was denied, you know, growing up in those in that era,

1072
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 3: and then you know, still gets denied to some today. Yeah,

1073
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 3: And so I feel for him, I really do. And

1074
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 3: especially the kindness of like dropping everyone off where they

1075
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 3: had to go. I know, you guys are like trying

1076
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,959
Speaker 3: to get to a business meeting to see a family member.

1077
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 3: You're gonna be just fine.

1078
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm going to take the plant.

1079
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 3: They should have made him an honorary Canadian.

1080
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 2: Ridiculous take Thank you for asking so thoughtful of you,

1081
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 2: I am so thoughtful. My ridiculous takeaway, Well, it comes

1082
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 2: to me from the show that I really love Black Sales.

1083
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 2: You often hear me watching it in the warm upset, Yeah,

1084
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 2: at headquarters. You know the theme song to that show. Well,

1085
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 2: there's a point late in this series where these are

1086
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 2: pirates trying to like basically fight the whole system of

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Speaker 2: the world. They're trying to get free of everything that's

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Speaker 2: going on in the early seventeen hundreds, right before basically

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Speaker 2: the founding of America. And there are interesting parallels between

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Speaker 2: them and the Founding Fathers. But the point that somebody

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Speaker 2: makes is, you know, one of the troubles is when

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Speaker 2: you try to fight the whole world, is you're going

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Speaker 2: up against the whole world. Yeah, and there's so many

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Speaker 2: more of them than there are of you. It's a paraphrase,

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Speaker 2: but that's essentially the argument, and I think revolutionaries forget that.

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Speaker 2: Is you've got to turn the world to your aims

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Speaker 2: as opposed to trying to force change on the world.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise the world's going to fight back. And because the

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Speaker 2: world hates change, world hates change, major loves change, but

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Speaker 2: the world of people.

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Speaker 3: Do not hate change, and people are defensive.

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Speaker 2: Fear it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and when when challenged, it's very rare that someone says, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know what, let me think about that or taken

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Speaker 3: into consideration, I might be wrong.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you do it violently, they definitely fear it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So there you go. Now you can move for a

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Speaker 2: talkback to watch this all down. Of course, I am

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Speaker 2: produce a d Can you favor us with a delicious

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Speaker 2: talk bag? Oh my god, I love.

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Speaker 5: Cheat Hey's Sarin. I wanted to let you know that

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Speaker 5: there is another option other than in ball cremation and

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Speaker 5: solving your body in half. You can donate your body

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Speaker 5: to the University of Tennessee Knoxville's Body Farm, which does exist,

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Speaker 5: and it will allow forensic anthropologists students to steady your

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Speaker 5: body and your family can can visit your bones after.

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Speaker 5: So there's another option for you.

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Speaker 2: Wow, in this place, I think a long time ago, I've.

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Speaker 3: Seen like a documentary about it. Really it's incredible. Like, so,

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Speaker 3: you donate your body and they put your body into

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Speaker 3: like a different they have different scenarios. Sure to watch

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Speaker 3: decomposition like outside or like shovey in a barrel. Really. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so I can really help forensics exactly so that they

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Speaker 3: can track like you know, the like decomposition and and

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Speaker 3: all these things. Yeah, it's pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's so much better than like the Chinese, like

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Speaker 2: they take off all your your scanning and they fill

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Speaker 2: you up with wax and they pose you in a

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Speaker 2: weird way like that Tour of the Bar. I don't

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Speaker 2: want to do that, and I definitely don't want to

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Speaker 2: do the donor bodies because I don't trust an.

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Speaker 3: Organ do You're just gonna have some like snot nosed

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Speaker 3: med students poking at your privates. Yeah this, yeah, she's

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Speaker 3: that's a good chip off there.

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Speaker 2: I'm so down. That's so much better than might cut

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Speaker 2: me in half and throw half in the woods.

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Speaker 3: I really like I like that.

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Speaker 2: Huh, thank you? Yes, well, uh obviously we love your talkbacks.

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Speaker 2: These are great. You guys are the best. So please

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Speaker 2: always enjoy that as well. You can go to uh

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Speaker 2: our account. We have our website Ridiculous Crime dot com, which,

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Speaker 2: by the way, big news Elizabeth. The website was just

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Speaker 2: Taco in the Bay Area.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's one of my favorite things.

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Speaker 2: I'm really hoping we win this one. So since we're

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Speaker 2: all about tacos here at HQ.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Also, you can go to Ridiculous Crime pod on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: of course, Ridiculous Crime at gmail dot com. You can

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Speaker 2: send us an email. We love to read those so

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Speaker 2: and we love to get your crime recommendations. We've been

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Speaker 2: working on a few that we recently came in, the

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Speaker 2: really good one. So thank you for those. And so

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Speaker 2: there you go. Thank you for listening, and we will

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