1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sam, this is John, and we are 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: the founding hosts of Okay Storytime podcasts. 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 2: And we have some foundational stories coming up for you. 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: But the thing is this foundation needs a little support 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: from these sponsors. So stick around two minutes and we'll 6 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: get into the episode. 7 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 2: I feel funny about my boyfriend hanging out with my 8 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 2: roommate alone. They called me controlling. 9 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 3: Oh, we're not doing anything in here, We're just playing 10 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 3: with worms. 11 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 2: So first of all, I want to give a disclaimer 12 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: that I know this is a matter of whose needs 13 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 2: will be put first mine versus roommate in X. I 14 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 2: also know that I cannot control who people hang out with, 15 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: nor do I want to. I just need some help 16 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: processing the situation and help setting boundaries. By the way, 17 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: this comes from user mks ninety three, and if you 18 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: want to submit your own stories, go to the r 19 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: slash Okay Storytime subrended. So here is the situation. My 20 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: ex boyfriend we dated for ten months, roommate seven months 21 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: of living together, and myself have been hanging out together 22 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: a lot lately. We all enjoy similar activities like hiking, running, 23 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 2: and skiing. A lot of our free time was spent together. 24 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 2: Two weeks ago, the three of us went on an 25 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: overnight trip with two days of skiing and some sight seeing. 26 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 2: Sometimes my roommate and my boyfriend would do things just 27 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: the two of them, especially since they were the most 28 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: skilled at athletic activities compared to me. This past Sunday, 29 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 2: he came over to my apartment to hang out with 30 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 2: my roommate and only told me after he organized things 31 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 2: with her. I had no issues with this because I 32 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: trusted both of them. Two days ago, my ex somewhat 33 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: blind sides me and broke up with me. Interesting, and 34 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 2: I know, I think I know why. Yeah, he realized 35 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: you couldn't hang on the slopes babe. 36 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 3: On cloud nine. 37 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 2: He's like, I need someone who can shred the. 38 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 3: Nar dude, someone that can go up on cloud nine 39 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 3: with me. 40 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: It's me, ooh, I need someone who can hit the 41 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: double black diamonds now. 42 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 3: Or maybe maybe no, maybe he preferred the master bedroom 43 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 3: rather than whatever room you were in. 44 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 2: That. I wouldn't say it was a mutual decision, but 45 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 2: in hindsight it makes sense. I'm obviously very hurt and sad. 46 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: I'm losing a huge part of my life and someone 47 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: I cared about deeply. Apparently, he had been thinking about 48 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: it for the past week and a half and had 49 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 2: even talked to my roommate about it. So when my 50 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 2: boyfriend and I broke up, I told him that I 51 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: was uncomfortable with him still hanging out with my roommate. 52 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 2: To me, it felt like something I couldn't have, both 53 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 2: him and the activities they're doing together that I would 54 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: have loved to do was being dangled in front of 55 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: my face. I told him that it would really hurt 56 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 2: my feelings to have reminders of him and the family 57 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 2: like bond I had with them. He accused me of 58 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 2: being controlling, which I do agree with to some extent. 59 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: I also feel that my argument is fair, especially since 60 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 2: they met through me and he was the dumper. Losing 61 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 2: friends slash roommates of your ex seems like a consequence 62 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 2: of breaking up. I talked to my roommate for two 63 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: hours last night and expressed all my concerns there we go. 64 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 2: Even told her that I was concerned they would start 65 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: liking each other and potentially date. Oh that's gonna blow 66 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: your mind in about I'm gonna say seven to eight minutes, Opie. 67 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 2: I always saw chemistry between them, but I wasn't worried 68 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 2: at the time. If they were to start dating, I 69 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 2: don't think I could live with her anymore. She was 70 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 2: very understanding, but she said that she needs some time 71 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,399 Speaker 2: to think about what she is going to do. I'm 72 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: just really upset and confused about this whole thing. I 73 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: feel like if I were in her shoes, I would 74 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 2: stop talking to the X of my roommate simply to 75 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 2: be kind and help her heal. I also understand that 76 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: they are friends and value each other outside of any 77 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 2: relationship they have or had with me. I'm asking for 78 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 2: help and navigating the situation and whether I'm asking for 79 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 2: something that's too much thank you. Now, the comments are 80 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 2: gonna nail this right. Before we get into the comments, 81 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say that your roommate is going to 82 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: get with your ex and they are going to be 83 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: extreme sports buddies yep, and they're gonna enjoy it and 84 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: they're not gonna care how it makes you feel. 85 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 4: No red flag, red flag. 86 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: I'm asking for help in navigating this situation and whether 87 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 2: I'm asking for something that is too much thank you. 88 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 2: Here's the comments. I think a starting point would be 89 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 2: to ask your roommate not to have him over to 90 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: the apartment. Realistically, I don't think you can keep them 91 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 2: from hanging out and being friends, but asking for them 92 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 2: not to be in your living space while you're trying 93 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 2: to get over the relationship as a request, I don't 94 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 2: think that that's something anyone would find unreasonable. Long term, 95 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: I'd see how things play out, and if she is 96 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 2: still close friends with him as you're nearing the end 97 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: of your lease, it may be a healthier choice for 98 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 2: you to find a new roommate and move out. Correct. 99 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 2: I'm just going to skip this to the update, yeah, 100 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 2: because that's every comment's going to be exactly what we 101 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: just said. So, the past week has been really hard 102 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 2: for me. I'm thankful that my boss is giving me 103 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: two days off to recover and get back on my feet. 104 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: W Boss, that's crazy. Forty eight hours after the breakup, 105 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: I talked to my roommate and she said that while 106 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 2: she understands how I feel, she will continue hanging out 107 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: with him. I also talked to my ex and told 108 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 2: him how uncomfortable I feel about the whole thing. He 109 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 2: also said he understand but thinks it's controlling of me 110 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 2: to ask them not to hang out. Last week, they 111 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 2: hung out for five days for hours on end. They 112 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 2: did respect my request not to come inside the house 113 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: when together, which I appreciate. Many posters suggested that they 114 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 2: were having an affair. My ex claims that he did 115 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 2: not break up with me to get with her. I 116 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 2: did believe him at first, and maybe it was somewhat true, 117 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 2: but I now think that something is going on and 118 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: was going on. I found out that my roommate had 119 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 2: a crush on my ax while we were dating, yet 120 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 2: still continued to hang out with him alone while we 121 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: were dating. All right, yeah they were Now okay, now's 122 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 2: there was an affair. There is an affair. Your roommate 123 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: was singing with your ex, all right, say eve. 124 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 4: Evel wasn't a physical it was emotional, and you don't 125 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 4: have to be cool about that. 126 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: So this person is what Riley, that's gone back? Not 127 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 2: your boy? 128 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 3: Not your boy. 129 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 2: This is not your boy, absolutely not. We got to 130 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 2: start making that other thing. Yep, not your boy? What 131 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 2: are they? Not your boy? You could have been a 132 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: little more enthusiastic about that, but I'll let it go. Okay. 133 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 2: I asked my ex while we were still dating, if 134 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 2: we could hang out just the two of us a 135 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 2: little bit more, and I was accused then of being 136 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 2: jealous and controlling. Turns out I was onto something. I 137 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 2: suspect they are now trying to hide their relationship from me, 138 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 2: though I cannot be sure. I mean, of course they are. 139 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 2: You literally told them they can't hang out in front 140 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 2: of you, so of course they're gonna hide it from you. 141 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 2: Two days ago, I told my roommate that I no 142 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 2: longer think it's healthy for me to live with her. 143 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 2: She was fine with this and is asking around for 144 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 2: places to stay. I will also consider leaving if she 145 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: cannot leave. The most crushing thing about all this is 146 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: that the two of them were people I considered best friends. 147 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: This is also happening less than two weeks after the breakup. 148 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 2: It feels weird and rude to me. Of course, they 149 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 2: are within their rights to do whatever, but I feel 150 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 2: like I was betrayed even before the relationship ended. Maybe 151 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 2: in time I'll be happy for them, so we do 152 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 2: have a little bit of story left. Honestly, cheaters aren't cool. 153 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 2: Cheating is not cool. Although I don't think you have 154 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 2: the leverage to stand and say like, hey, you can't 155 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: do this, and I think you've realized that, and yeah, 156 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 2: I think you need to just move on from these people. 157 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: I know it sucks. There sucks, man, it does like, 158 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 2: don't let my don't let my flippancy, don't confuse you 159 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 2: any thinking. I don't actually feel for this at all. 160 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 2: I do, but it's like you gotta get you gotta 161 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 2: move on to And the longer you hold on to this, like, 162 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 2: the more of a detriment it's going to be to you, 163 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 2: Like the faster you can just let this go and 164 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 2: let this might honestly just be occasionally to people who 165 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: are better fits for each other. It's still ex but 166 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: they excuse the affair. But at the end of the day, 167 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 2: like these are two people who might be more compatible 168 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: than you even were with your eggs. So it's like, 169 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: who knows, we're gonna finish up the store here. So edit, 170 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: you all are so kind. Thanks for the words of encouragement, 171 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 2: tough love, and shared experiences. I'm staying with a friend tonight, 172 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 2: and I am hoping that the move out situation goes smoothly. 173 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: Living apart from my current roommate is the only viable 174 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 2: option for me moving forward will also be cutting contact 175 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: from both of them as soon as the living situation 176 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: is settled. Yes, thank you. Op. Also, oh, I am 177 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 2: going to therapy tomorrow. Yes, what I was just about 178 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: to say. And went last week, so I'm hoping that helps. 179 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 2: I'm so thankful I have off from work. It's been 180 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 2: nice to just be able to rest and to roommate 181 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: confirmed in a convo today that they are more than friends. 182 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,239 Speaker 2: And there's some comments here. Let's see how the comments 183 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 2: are going to go of them. I think so, yes. 184 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 2: Comment one. Everyone likes to think of their selves as 185 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 2: the hero of their story. Currently, your roommate and X 186 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 2: are playing out their fantasy of being lovers against all odds. 187 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 2: You're now the villain in their epic love story, merely 188 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 2: by advocating for your own needs. Also, that's extra. I 189 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 2: don't know if that's the case, but it's definitely probably 190 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 2: a case of like, oh my god, I can't wet 191 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 2: we met in these crazy circumstances. That's what it is. 192 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 2: At the very least, moving out and leaving them behind 193 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 2: is your best move. 194 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 4: Do that? 195 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 5: Yep? 196 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 2: Reply yep. Without a villain, the relationship will probably founder 197 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 2: very quickly. It was fun because it was secret and 198 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 2: behind your back, low key facts. Maybe he breaks up 199 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: with you, then he uses the controlling defense to frame 200 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 2: you as a villain. You break a contact and move on. Well, 201 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 2: they lose all of the fun of sneaking around at 202 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 2: first and then having a crazy X being the bad guy. Okay, 203 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah blah blah. Okay, never mind, Oh 204 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: he did not just fun. So yeah, I think it's 205 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: a good point. My final take is gonna be if 206 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 2: there was no cheating here and they just like were 207 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 2: friends that then developed feelings over time outside of y'all's relationship, 208 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: that would be a completely different thing. But the fact 209 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 2: that there was infidelity while you guys were together, yeah, 210 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 2: makes them really suck. Honestly, they do. They suck. They 211 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: suck in. It's a bad situation and the best thing 212 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 2: that you can do is just put it behind you, 213 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 2: put it in the rear view mirror, work on yourself, 214 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: go to therapy, sort it out, go. 215 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 3: To the gym, some snowboarding, go to the gym, shred 216 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 3: professional snowboarding gal and then get in the Olympics and 217 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 3: show them what's wrong. 218 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 2: Hey, you and don't fall for the trap of thinking 219 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 2: that you did something wrong. You didn't do something wrong. 220 00:09:56,040 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 2: These people just saw an opportunity to be with each 221 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 2: other and they took it. Yep, And you know, yeah, 222 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 2: it has nothing to do with you. The fact that 223 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 2: you maybe can't ski or snowboard very well, it's like 224 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 2: they're just trash, a little bit a little trashy. So yeah, 225 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 2: don't let it get to you. You're on the upswing, 226 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 2: you're up and up. Don't worry about it. But that 227 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 2: right there, that is the end of that story. 228 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 3: I told my parents that my grandmother dislikes me, but 229 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 3: they knew all along. I nineteen female, have recently told 230 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 3: my mom for you're on female and dad fifty two male, 231 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 3: that my grandmother seventy five female on my dad's side 232 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 3: never treated me the same way she would treat my 233 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 3: sixteen year old sister. By the way, this comes from 234 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 3: Glittering Candy ninety five. If you want to spit your 235 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 3: old stories, go to the R side Showcase story time. 236 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 3: So I reread it for context. Me and my sister 237 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 3: since we were twelve and nine, respectfully, wou'd spend Fridays 238 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 3: after school with my granny and my mom and dad 239 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 3: at this point were on speaking terms with my granny, 240 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 3: unless me and my sister were involved. They would drop 241 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 3: us off at my granny's and wait in the car 242 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 3: and my granny and parents would acknowledge each other with 243 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 3: the wave and that was it. This they never really 244 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 3: saw what it was like when we were at her house. 245 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 3: I went to preface that there was no physical abuse 246 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 3: or anything like that. Now onto the issue. Over the years, 247 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 3: I have noticedable differences in my treatment from my granny 248 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,719 Speaker 3: compared to my sister, such ass if I didn't like 249 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 3: a dinner she made, she would scoff and tell me 250 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 3: to eat or don't. I wasn't getting something else. My sister, 251 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 3: on the other hand, if she was not to like 252 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 3: a dinner, my granny would offer her something else or 253 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 3: give her biscuits or something to eat instead. There were 254 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 3: other interests where like telling her like her telling me 255 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,599 Speaker 3: it was unladylike to sit with my legs uncrossed or 256 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 3: put my elbows open the table, she would scoff at 257 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 3: me for it would just sigh when my sister did 258 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 3: the same. There were also the times where her and 259 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 3: my sister were able to watch TV together well. I 260 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 3: was told to tidy up the house and God. And 261 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 3: there were more times when I noticed the difference in treatment, 262 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 3: like our birthdays or general events, but I'm not sure 263 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 3: of My post is too long already, so I won't 264 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 3: write them all out anyway. With all this, I also 265 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 3: just had the feeling that she didn't love me or 266 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 3: even like me, the same as my sister. I write 267 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,599 Speaker 3: everything I could, from not complaining about dinner I didn't like, 268 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 3: to tidying up without being told, et cetera, and the 269 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 3: hopes that by doing this I could make her like 270 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 3: me or even love me, and whatever I had done 271 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 3: wrong could be fixed. Safe to say that that hasn't happened, 272 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 3: and I haven't given up on trying since I was sixteen, 273 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 3: and I just have to say that I've accepted that 274 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 3: my granny doesn't love or like me. I don't remember 275 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 3: how it came up, but I was just out with 276 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 3: my parents, and I think we were talking about my 277 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 3: granny on my mother's side when I blurted out, do 278 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 3: you guys know why granny on dad's side doesn't like me? 279 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 3: And they both kind of froze and dumbfounded. My mom 280 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 3: asked me what I was talking about, and I explained 281 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 3: the above. My mom and dad looked at each other, 282 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 3: then me quietly said, you know, said yeah, I've had 283 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 3: a feeling since I was ten, but I didn't fully really. 284 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 3: My mom and dad went to say that they had 285 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 3: told her not to treat me and my sister differently, 286 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 3: and that I should have told them sooner, and they 287 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 3: had no idea I knew. They said that they'd known sooner, 288 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,719 Speaker 3: they wouldn't make me go to her house. I used 289 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,719 Speaker 3: to not want to go for that reason, but I 290 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 3: was told to go anyways if they all knew that 291 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 3: was happening. They also said that she does love me, 292 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 3: but I don't believe them. My dad was quieter on 293 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 3: the topic, but he clearly wasn't happy. I both said 294 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 3: they feel kind of awful that I knew about her 295 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 3: preference for my sister and that I should have told 296 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 3: them sooner, and why I had told them now when 297 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 3: I had known for years. They've both been a little 298 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 3: quieter and a bit withdrawn since then, and I feel 299 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 3: bad for making them feel like this, but I don't 300 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 3: know what to do. So am I the eel for 301 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 3: not telling them sooner that I know my granny prefers 302 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 3: my sister over me. I think Opie is like onto something, 303 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 3: but she doesn't know she's onto it, if that makes sense. 304 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think you're right about that. 305 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 5: I think she's like almost uncovered all the clues, but 306 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 5: everyone else is like keeping the rest of it a secret. 307 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 3: Like she lost her glasses, but now she's accidentally solving 308 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 3: a murder. That's kind of the vibes I'm getting here. 309 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 2: Update. I want to start with how grateful I am 310 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: for everyone's thoughts. 311 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 3: I don't care. My heart goes out to you. I 312 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 3: want to close some things up. Aha, my dad's bio daughter. 313 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 3: I've mentioned in the comments that both of my parents 314 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 3: have suffered from being adopted. They are both very transparent 315 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 3: about it and struggles they face. So if I was adopted, 316 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 3: they would say. My wee sister had no idea if 317 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 3: any of this has been happening, and she tried to 318 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 3: hit here and there, and there's no preferential treatment from 319 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 3: our parents or other family members by Granny. The only 320 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 3: reason I told her this is because I don't want 321 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 3: her to blame herself for the difference in treatment, and 322 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 3: I don't want her to think I blame her when 323 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't believe my parents' intention of keeping 324 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 3: this from me was out of malice. It seems like 325 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 3: they'd done it out of misplaced sense of protection. My 326 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 3: parents aren't married, but they have engagement rings and I 327 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 3: have been together for more than twenty years. They didn't 328 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 3: get married due to certain family members passing away and 329 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 3: not feeling it right to do without them. For the update, 330 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 3: I was finally able to get my parents along today 331 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 3: and ask them point blank why my grandmother didn't like me. 332 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 3: I was while emotional, so I don't remember things word 333 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 3: for word, but I'll give it the most important notes, 334 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 3: some contexts that's important. My parents grew up here in 335 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 3: Ireland during the troubles, and my dad is a Protestant 336 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 3: and my mom is a Catholic, so they got together 337 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 3: in the mid to late nineties and they were sometimes 338 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 3: still are considered a mixed relationship. While my mom's side 339 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 3: of the family didn't have a problem with my dad's side, 340 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 3: really just my granny wasn't happy about it. Apparently my 341 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 3: granny treated my dad and his younger brother the same 342 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 3: way she treats me and my little sister. My dad 343 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 3: was always treated as second best to my uncle, and 344 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 3: it was obvious on holidays and birthdays and general treatment. 345 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 3: An example my mom gave us was that my granny, 346 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 3: when talking to others about how many children do you have, 347 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 3: she would say nine out of ten times, she only 348 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 3: mentions my uncle safe to say, she didn't hide her favoritism. 349 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 3: My dad and mom think that it was because she 350 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 3: had my dad out of wedlock, which at the time 351 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 3: in Ireland was less than ideal, putting it to putting 352 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 3: it mildly. My mom told me how Granny would interfere 353 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 3: in her and Dad's relationship when they were beginning to date. 354 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 3: My Granny would make side remarks and when visiting my 355 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 3: mom my dad's how she would rearrange everything to her liking, 356 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 3: and then criticize my mom for not cooking for my 357 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 3: dad after he came home from work, even when she 358 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 3: was also working. My dad also had memories of my 359 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 3: grandma intercepting phone calls and visiting from my mom before 360 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 3: they started living together. My grandma was excited when my 361 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 3: mom announced her pregnancy and was invested in being included. 362 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 3: I don't want to go I went to detail, but 363 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 3: I was born severely prematurely and health compulations from it 364 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 3: due to this. My parents were very protective and insistent 365 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 3: on how many people that they wanted to care for me. 366 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 3: I had to follow what the doctor said. Yeah, I 367 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 3: had to change my nap. They had to change my 368 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 3: nappy a certain way per doctor's order. My grandma didn't 369 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 3: see the point in this and would ignore them, and 370 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 3: my dad would put his foot down, telling her she's 371 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 3: either gonna follow what the doctor says, or she will 372 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 3: be left alone with me, or she wouldn't be left 373 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 3: alone with me. She blamed my mom for this. I 374 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 3: also wasn't a very openly affectionate child. I wouldn't awfully 375 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 3: freely offer hugs or kisses the family, and my mom 376 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 3: and dad never forced me to. You can guess my 377 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 3: granny didn't take that well and try to make me 378 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 3: hug her, and my mom and dad would stop her. 379 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 3: And then she blamed my mom, saying she stopped her 380 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 3: from bonding with me when I was born, and now 381 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 3: I'm acting like this. However, I remember I would run 382 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 3: up and hug, kiss, or cuddle with everyone on my 383 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 3: mind's side of the family, especially my granny on my 384 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 3: mom's side, and never felt forced with them, but my 385 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 3: granny on my dad's side. I always felt like it 386 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 3: was transactional to hug her. Wee's sister comes along and 387 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 3: she's my complete opposite, extroverted, openly, affectionate, and more. My 388 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 3: granny got all the hugs and kisses and codal from 389 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 3: her that she didn't get from me, and because my 390 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 3: sister didn't have any health complications, they were able to 391 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 3: bond unlike me and her. The ditch between my parents 392 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 3: and granny built over the years. My parents would have 393 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 3: both my grannies and granddads not for ei their family. 394 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 3: They were long standing parental frignurs to my dad, so 395 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 3: he and my mom asked them to be are Granddad's 396 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 3: and me and my sister for Christmas Day and dinner 397 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 3: every year. Now here's where they stopped talking to one another. 398 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 3: My mom and dad wanted to have one Christmas to 399 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 3: just be the four of us. My granny took this 400 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 3: as a personal attack and wanted to come anyway, and 401 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 3: my parents said no. Later after Boxing Day, I think 402 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 3: Mom and Dad go to Granny's house where they were 403 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 3: confronted her on her behavior, but especially for the obvious 404 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 3: difference in her treatment of me and my sister. My 405 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 3: uncle was there as well. What happened, apparently is that 406 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 3: my granny fiinged ignorance, and my dad exploded on her, 407 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 3: saying she wasn't going to let her pull the same 408 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 3: thing she did with him and his brother, and that 409 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 3: he won't let her make me feel less than because 410 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 3: of her own messed up mindset. My mom was arguing 411 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 3: with my uncle, he lives with my granny. My uncle 412 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 3: tried to physically put my dad and mom out of 413 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 3: the house, but my mom, all five to four of her, 414 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 3: was used to fighting her older brothers and dropped him 415 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 3: like a sack of crap. Aha, So she gonna say sacotators. 416 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 2: That's what I thought too, especially since they're Irish. 417 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 5: Well there would be no potatoes yep. Well, actually the 418 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 5: Potato Fami they only could eat potatoes. 419 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 3: Well yeah, right, do you know how many potatoes it 420 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 3: takes to kill an irishman? None? 421 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 2: One to treat for five none. No, but they have potatoes. 422 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 5: They had potatoes and the Potato family that's all they 423 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 5: could eat. Well, that's not they just didn't really have 424 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 5: any ship. 425 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 3: Said, sound like they were gonna eat people, what remember that? 426 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 5: No, just there was no shipments going in because the 427 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 5: British were blocking it all. 428 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 3: But remember they were like, we're gonna eat her own 429 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 3: cond here's how we're gonna do it. Remember that, I 430 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 3: don't really. 431 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 2: I wasn't there satire. I never heard anyone say that 432 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 2: it was. I had to read that in seventh grade. 433 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 5: Oh you had to read this side. Oh you read 434 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 5: the satirical piece about Yeah, I know what you're talking about. 435 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 3: Yep, yep changed my life. Anyways, from there, they said 436 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 3: she had promised to change, and they let her come 437 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 3: over it would make sure there was no favoritism. Now, 438 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 3: this and the fact that around this time one of 439 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 3: my granddad's passed and my mom's mother was declining in 440 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 3: her health, and I think some other family stuff was 441 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 3: happening as well as my dad's mom was worsening health, 442 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 3: and they didn't want to take our granny and that 443 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 3: relationship away from us at a young age, especially everything 444 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 3: that's happening. They generally believed that she had changed and 445 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 3: didn't want their problems with one another to affect me 446 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 3: and my sister's relationship with her only granny. I also 447 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 3: got them to explain to me what they meant with 448 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 3: me telling them sooner and what they meant was they 449 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 3: had known earlier, they would have fully cut her out 450 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 3: of her lives and made sure I knew it had 451 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 3: nothing to do about me, and it was her own 452 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 3: miscontract thoughts that she acts the way she does. They 453 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 3: apologized and over and over. I've seen my dad that 454 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 3: upset before. Man, that's very upsetting. 455 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 2: Well, that just very upsetting. Yeah, they just got to 456 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 2: block her off. 457 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like with someone like this, you can't 458 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 5: really just convince them to just like, hey, can you 459 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:34,479 Speaker 5: like be nice now? 460 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? You know she's it's she's not gonna get it. 461 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 2: She's not gonna know how to do that. 462 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I don't know. I'm like, where why is 463 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 3: she like copying and pasting these relationships? 464 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 4: You know? 465 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? I I totally know so much. 466 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 3: Short, they generally thought my granny had changed due to 467 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 3: past experiences, and they never knew she was treating me 468 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 3: and my sister differently. I love my mom and my dad. 469 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 3: I don't blame I've never blamed him because I always 470 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 3: thought something was wrong with me, but that I was effective. 471 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 3: The only thing I wish I could do is tell 472 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 3: my younger self I wasn't the problem. I wasn't crazy 473 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 3: for believing that Granny didn't like or love me. I 474 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 3: just wish I could tell her she was a I 475 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 3: just wish she I just wish I could tell her 476 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 3: she wasn't defective. 477 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 2: He was a child. 478 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 3: Thank you all again for the comments. I really appreciate it. 479 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,719 Speaker 3: More than you know what to do. Her health has 480 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 3: been declining and I don't know what to do. 481 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 2: Yay, that was story. Yes, I overheard my mother calling 482 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 2: me lame. It made me curious your mom's lame? Yeah. 483 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 2: So last year my mom, thirty eight female, left my 484 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 2: dad for her old boyfriend Mike. Oh yeah, he got 485 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 2: out of jail. Yeah. Mom and dad were arguing a lot, 486 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 2: and she left to be with him. I wonder if 487 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 2: they had been arguing about Mike getting out of jail 488 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 2: a rough start. I've met Mike a few times, but 489 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 2: generally when I'm with Mom or at her place, it's 490 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 2: just her and me, because she says she doesn't want 491 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 2: to share her time with me with anyone else. By 492 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 2: the way, this country user is Zesty close Claw And 493 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 2: if you want to submit your own stories, go to 494 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 2: the r slash Shokay storytime subbured it so u except 495 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 2: since they've got together, my mom has changed a lot. 496 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 2: For one, she dresses different and is way more affectionate. 497 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 2: When she picks me up from school, She's always wearing 498 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 2: Lululemon and will wait outside the car and hug and 499 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 2: kiss me in front of everyone before we can go, 500 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 2: and sometimes she hugs me in the morning until I 501 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 2: wake up. She's made me start going to the gym 502 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 2: with her, made me start taking my uncle's taekwondo classes, 503 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 2: and on Sunday makes me wake up at six unless 504 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 2: it's raining to go on run. Dude, crazy, she's on program. Dude, 505 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 2: She's like, we got a run, we got a run. 506 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 2: Let's up and at him. This is Mike, Dude, She's 507 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 2: on Mike's program. Apparently. She always makes me get so 508 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 2: tired in the gym, and my uncle is harder on 509 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 2: me than anyone else in his class, and the morning 510 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 2: runs ruined Sunday for me. Dude, what is she training 511 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 2: you for greatness? I've told her all this, but she 512 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 2: says it's for my own good and especially gets upset 513 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 2: when I complain about my uncle. Today's ago. I tried 514 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 2: phoning my mom about something I left at her place, 515 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 2: and she didn't pick up. She butt doabbed me after 516 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 2: and when I picked up, I could hear her, but 517 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 2: she couldn't hear me, and she was talking to Mike. 518 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 2: It was just small talk. But then Mike brought me 519 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 2: up and I heard her say to Mike straight up, 520 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 2: he's so lame, just like his dad. Ah, is that 521 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 2: why she's trying to like train you for the Olympics. 522 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 2: She's like, he's so lame. 523 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 5: I need a taping him mapa bet he's got to 524 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 5: be a truck star. I need him to be interesting. 525 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 2: It is weird. It's weird. This is weird. Your mom's 526 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 2: a weird, fundamentally weird position to have on your kid. Yeah, 527 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 2: maybe she wasn't talking about you. Yeah, who knows. She's 528 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 2: giving like a CrossFit mom. 529 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, just like he said, he's just not strong enough 530 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 5: for these six am morning runs. 531 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 2: He's got to be faster. He then asked if my 532 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 2: mom would choose him over me, and she said something 533 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 2: like obviously I'd choose my son, and that he needs 534 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 2: to start being active in my life so I end 535 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 2: up like him and not my dad. It made me 536 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 2: so mad, and I still feel that way, and yesterday 537 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 2: she surprised me by picking me up from my uncle's 538 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 2: class to take me to Dairy Queen, and I just 539 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 2: couldn't talk to her. She got really worried that something 540 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 2: was wrong with me, and when she dropped me off 541 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 2: at my dad's I know they got into an argument. 542 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 2: Am I the a hole for not telling her that 543 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 2: what that you knew? She called you lame? I why 544 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 2: would you be the a hole? Let's keep reading. I 545 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 2: need more information about this, Okay. Op On his uncle 546 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 2: and why Mike went to jail. My uncle would uh 547 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 2: uh his butt if they ever fought, and I'm pretty 548 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 2: sure Mike's afraid of him too, since we all had 549 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 2: a dinner and he was really quiet and polite to 550 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 2: him the whole time. I don't know why Mike went 551 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 2: to jail, and when I asked, my mom just said 552 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter because he was innocent. And I don't 553 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 2: know how she knows that, but she believes it. Uh 554 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 2: op On why his mom is with Mike, No, I 555 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 2: don't know, but she's happier with him than she ever 556 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 2: was with my dad. They used a date when they 557 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 2: were in high school, and I guess she's always wanted 558 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 2: to be with him. 559 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 5: Update, Man, I think you I guess you should talk 560 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 5: to your mom and figure out what she was talking about, because, like, 561 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 5: I don't know what's going on here, Like she's happy 562 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 5: with Mike. She said you were lame. That's all the 563 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 5: information we have here. All the answers to this are 564 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 5: also she's training you for the Olympics. Yeah, it's it's like, mom, 565 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 5: why are you doing this? Yeah, that's just like the question. 566 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 5: She'll be like doing what doing all of this? 567 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? Why do you need me to like join you 568 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 2: in all these things? Do you just like, do you 569 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 2: hate dad so much that like you can't stand that 570 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 2: I'm also half of him? Yeah, and so you're trying 571 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 2: to like program. I think they got half of him 572 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 2: that's in me, out of me. I think they have 573 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 2: to have some sort of conversation. They just got to talk, which, honestly, look, 574 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 2: being fitness and being into fitness culture is cool. It 575 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 2: does circle around, though, and become super lame at some point. 576 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 2: If it's just literally your entire life, that's true. You 577 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 2: could say that about pretty much anything. Yeah, anything in 578 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 2: access not great update. I'm not really sure what to type, 579 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 2: but I feel like I need to write about some 580 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 2: things that have happened. When I was writing my last post, 581 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 2: I was reading the Expanse books, and pretty much there's 582 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 2: stuff in the second one about moms not seeing their kids. 583 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 2: I know that's so different from my situation and it's 584 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 2: not real, but I think that it's what got me 585 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 2: really emotional and scared. And I didn't realize that until 586 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 2: I looked back at the comments. So my dad pretty 587 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: much told me that I needed to talk to my 588 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 2: mom because he didn't want to deal with her, and 589 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 2: she was going to pick me up from school so 590 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 2: we could work it out. Hate that that is dad's responsible. Yeah, 591 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 2: when she did, I just tried talking to her like 592 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 2: normal or lying, but she knew I was lying and 593 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 2: seemed really worried. So I told her everything and it 594 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 2: made her cry and I felt really awful. But then 595 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 2: she started apologizing to me, which was really weird. She 596 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 2: told me that she shouldn't have said that and she 597 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 2: was wrong to say it, and that I'm not laying. 598 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 2: But then why'd you say that? 599 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 5: Well, okay, I'm not excusing that. I think that's like 600 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 5: really really hurtful. But you know, parents are humans and 601 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 5: sometimes they get annoyed by their kids and then they 602 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 5: say mean things about their kids. She didn't say it 603 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 5: to him, he overheard it. Doesn't excuse it. I think 604 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 5: you think it's worse actually that she oh she said it? 605 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, I think it is. 606 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 5: I can be worse because he overhears it, and then 607 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 5: he's like, you're talking behind my back. 608 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 2: I think if you think your kid's lame, you should go, buddy, 609 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 2: you're laying I think we have changes that would help 610 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 2: you live a better, more fulfilled existence. 611 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 5: I don't think it's okay that she did it, but 612 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 5: I think that this they needed to talk about this, 613 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 5: and maybe maybe she'll come back around and be like, 614 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 5: I'm so sorry. 615 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 2: I shouldn't have said that. 616 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 5: I was dealing with things, But like she still still 617 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 5: is super and the wrong for doing it, but I'm 618 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 5: hopeful based off this reaction, we'll see. 619 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 2: She said that I'm her only chot and that sometimes 620 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 2: she gets jealous of how much I'm like my dad 621 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 2: and wishes I was more like her. She ranted about 622 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 2: how much she hates my dad and now he ruined 623 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 2: her life and it was his fall. Never mind, she 624 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 2: went back around. Dang. I had hope for her for 625 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 2: about a second. That sucks. Then she started saying she 626 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 2: would pass away without me and promised she was going 627 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 2: to make it up to me and never say something 628 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 2: like that again. And since then she really has tried, 629 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 2: Like she'll come to school randomly during lunch and drop 630 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 2: me off lunch, or make special dinner for me, or 631 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 2: even help out with my uncle's classes. She's not as 632 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 2: good as him, but knows the lessons talking about taekwondo. Yeah, 633 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 2: but literally the week after, she also forced me to 634 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 2: go to counseling with her and is making me go 635 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 2: with her every week. Now. All we do there is talk, 636 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 2: and we've talked so much now about what she said 637 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 2: and how I felt and that I'm kind of annoyed 638 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 2: by it. So yeah, I don't really like it, but 639 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 2: she seemed to think it's helping, and she even said 640 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 2: once she should have made us go to the moment 641 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 2: she left my dad. Besides that, Mike proposed to my 642 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 2: mom and she accepted, and she honestly seems happier than 643 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 2: she's ever been. She's been hanging out with his daughter 644 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 2: and his niece a lot too, to plan her wedding. 645 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 2: I'm still not close to him or anything but I 646 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 2: don't know. I don't feel like I can say anything 647 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 2: with how happy my mom is. I mean, she's calling 648 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 2: all of our relatives to tell them the news and 649 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 2: telling me to start writing my speech. There's a little 650 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 2: more story, but Sophia, do your final thoughts too tricky. 651 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 5: I think that it's good that they're going to counseling, 652 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 5: but also I think that the mom is trying to 653 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 5: like take off all responsibility from herself for what she 654 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 5: said and how she's been treating her kid. 655 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, she literally said it was your dad's fault that 656 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 2: I called you lamb, And I'm really hoping that, yeah, guy, Yeah, 657 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 2: I'm really hoping. 658 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 5: That she learns in counseling that that was not okay 659 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 5: and that she needs to like own up and take responsibility. 660 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 2: But right now, not seeing that, not seeing that, not particularly, 661 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 2: not particularly so Dad's been pissed off ever since he learned. 662 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 2: And the worst part is that after she made me 663 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 2: admit this in counseling, she listens to the therapist and 664 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 2: wants me to start going to sessions by myself. She said, 665 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 2: my uncle will take me on the days that she's 666 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 2: going to book for me, so I won't feel any 667 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 2: pressure from her. I just hate it. I hate talking 668 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 2: about these things, and I wish I didn't have to 669 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 2: now I think you should. I think you do need 670 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 2: to talk about them. You have some comments here. Opie 671 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 2: on if his mom would let him stop therapy. I 672 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 2: have no choice but to continue therapy. She's not going 673 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 2: to let me stop. Maybe she'd let me stop the 674 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 2: one we do together, but not the one where I 675 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 2: go alone, which again, I think you will actually get 676 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 2: a lot out of that. Opie on why his mom 677 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 2: isn't going to let him stop. I've tried telling her 678 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 2: that I don't feel like it's helping me, but she 679 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 2: just said that therapy is a process, that maybe going 680 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 2: alone will make it better, and that she's not going 681 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,959 Speaker 2: to risk my mental health, and she should have had 682 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 2: me start going months ago. Opie on if his mom 683 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 2: cheated on his dad. She didn't cheat on him. I 684 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 2: know that while they were still together, they were both 685 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 2: arguing and yelling a lot about everything. I know she 686 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 2: wasn't happy back then. I just wish that she was. 687 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 2: MP on if he and his mom discussed her ranting 688 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 2: about his dad at therapy. I did tell him she 689 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 2: brought it up herself actually, and we talked so long 690 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 2: about it, and she agreed that she shouldn't have said that, 691 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 2: that it was wrong, and the therapist literally said, what 692 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 2: you said that it showed she's not taking accountability, and 693 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 2: then we wouldn't stop talking about it. It's just so exhausting. 694 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 2: Ope on how long his mom and Mike have been together, 695 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 2: and if they were, and if it was a fast engagement, 696 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 2: they didn't immediately get engaged. They've been together for about 697 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 2: a year now. I don't know why he went away, 698 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 2: but even if it was something bad, I just feel 699 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 2: it wouldn't break my mom and him up because she 700 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 2: already believes he didn't do anything wrong. Op On the 701 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 2: one useful part of therapy. My mom says that he 702 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 2: was joking about that, but I should focus on that. 703 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 2: She said she would choose me, But you're right that 704 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 2: it feels weird. That was probably the only useful thing 705 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 2: I feel we talked about in therapy, because I asked 706 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 2: if she'd still choose me when she and Mike have kids. 707 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 2: She told me she's not going to have anymore kids 708 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 2: because I'm all she needs. But besides that, it's just 709 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 2: talking on and on in circles and it's exhausting, and 710 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 2: that's the end of that story. 711 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think you'll probably find more success 712 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 5: in individual therapy than you will with your mother. 713 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, because you don't have to talk in circles at 714 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 2: that point. You can just talk about yourself what you 715 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 2: want to talk about. And because it sounds it does 716 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 2: kind of sound like your mom's kind of like a 717 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 2: everything is my way. Yeah, everything I do is the 718 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 2: right thing to do. Everything I think is the right 719 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 2: thing to think. 720 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 5: And tell your a therapist like, hey, I don't think 721 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 5: this is working really, I like, I'm exhausted. This is 722 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 5: like frustrating me, Like talk about those things too. 723 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 2: Also, she still can't make you go, brother, I just 724 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 2: want to let you know she can. 725 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 3: You can. 726 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 2: She can take you right to the therapist and you 727 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 2: can go. I'm not getting out of the car. I'm 728 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 2: not I'm not going to therapy. 729 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 3: I'm not. 730 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 2: I'm not going to do this anymore with you. I've 731 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 2: told you I want to do it. I'm not going 732 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 2: to do it. I'll do it alone. If she makes 733 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 2: you keep going with her, you do. You don't have 734 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 2: to short of a court order. I think there's no 735 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 2: way for that to be in forced. So she's putting 736 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 2: it out there, but that is the end of that story. John. Here, 737 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 2: we're gonna get back to this juicy story, but a 738 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 2: quick three minute of break of ads from our sponsors. 739 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 2: I refuse to speak with my father because he's still 740 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 2: friends with my ex. What a stinker. 741 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 5: This is from the r slash okay storytime sub reddit. 742 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 5: This is direct you don't speak to this man and 743 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 5: also trigger warning mentions of substances. It begins eleven years 744 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 5: ago when I called off my wedding six months out 745 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,280 Speaker 5: after an absolutely horrible night that only got worse and worse. 746 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 5: It started off when my fiance Mark crashed my high 747 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 5: school reunion and insulted my classmates with racial jokes. 748 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 2: Oh what a winner, yikes. 749 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 5: When I asked him to leave, he left and went 750 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 5: to the bar next door, and we didn't speak for 751 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 5: the rest of the night. By the way, this comes 752 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 5: from Throwaway. Cue the drama, and if you want to 753 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 5: submit your own stories, go to the r slash okay storytime. 754 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 2: Separate it. So when I got home at midnight, he 755 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 2: was a tome. 756 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 5: I went to bed angry with the sinking feeling in 757 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 5: my stomach, thinking that I'd like to call off this wedding. 758 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 5: When I woke up at am, Mark was not there 759 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 5: and I couldn't find my phone, my wallet, or my 760 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 5: car keys. I walked home from the bar, and I 761 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 5: could clearly remember everything from the night before. I started 762 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,240 Speaker 5: to second guess myself, thinking that maybe I left everything 763 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 5: at the bar. But then how would I have gotten 764 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 5: in the house without my keys. 765 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 2: It made no sense. I went outside to. 766 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 5: Look for Mark's car, and I could see it a 767 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 5: few cars down. When I approached, I could smell the liquor. 768 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 5: I found Mark passed out behind the wheel, the engine 769 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 5: still running, and a pill bottle in his right hand. 770 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 2: Uh. That's not the safest way to drive. No, yikes. 771 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 5: Something told me to check the trunk, where I found 772 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 5: Mark's suitcase and opened it. No clothing, nothing at all 773 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 5: except my phone, my wallet, every purse I owned, and 774 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 5: my car keys. Mark denied having a drinking or prescription 775 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 5: pill problem for months at this point, and this was 776 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:03,760 Speaker 5: my final straw. 777 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 2: This felt like controlling behavior and I was having none 778 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 2: of it. 779 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 5: This was one of the cusp of many other recent incidents, 780 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 5: including Mark ruining my bachelorette party, where I was with 781 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 5: my friends and two of his for several days in 782 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 5: a cabin. Mark called me incessantly, then sent me blasts 783 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 5: of angry texts when I didn't answer. When I called back, 784 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 5: he wanted to know what I wanted from the grocery store. 785 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 2: I kid you not. Yeah, sounds like you might be 786 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 2: a little unstable, given that he's also an active addiction. Yeah. 787 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 5: It would take me an hour to describe what else happened, 788 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 5: but it led me to realize that I was about 789 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 5: to marry a self absorbed person with serious issues which 790 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 5: he was in serious denial about. 791 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 2: His wrisk taking behaviors were out of control. 792 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 5: I gave Mark back the ring, moved out and changed 793 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 5: my number, leaving the dress in the closet and four 794 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 5: years of harmful relationship behind me. Whoo, I've learned the 795 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 5: hard way that when you're dealing with a self absorbed person, 796 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 5: if you embarrass them, you better be ready for payback. 797 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 5: Well Mark did anything and everything he could to embarrass 798 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 5: me back for calling off the wedding, including openly crying 799 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 5: in our small town barrows about oh I dumped him 800 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 5: for someone else? 801 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 2: Not true, which, by the way, that's actually the perfect 802 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 2: way to do that. See how he said dumped me. Yeah, 803 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 2: he's nothing, he need it on him. Yeah, I actually 804 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,399 Speaker 2: realized I like this guy. I probably shouldn't beata. Any 805 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,919 Speaker 2: guy doesn't even know how to man. Forget this guy dude. 806 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, Like, honestly, he can go cry and make a 807 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 5: fool of himself. You just need to, you know, if 808 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 5: someone brings him up to you can be like, yeah, 809 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 5: he I realized he was having a whole thing with 810 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 5: himself that he needed to deal with. 811 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 2: I'm not going to touch that. Yeah, but otherwise just 812 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,479 Speaker 2: let him let him, you know, go cry in the town. 813 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 5: Meanwhile, he lived with me, oh rent free for half 814 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 5: our relationship. 815 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,240 Speaker 2: I thought you were going to say he lived now currently. 816 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,280 Speaker 5: I was like, ah, well, you change companies and started 817 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 5: from the bottom up again. Mark and went so far 818 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 5: as to have cigars made up with our names and 819 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 5: wedding dates on them and pass them around at a 820 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 5: huge party in our town, joking that he may as 821 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 5: well use them if they're going to go to waste. 822 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,840 Speaker 2: Let me be clear, we never ordered these for our wedding. 823 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 5: Okay, Since he had no way to contact me, I 824 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 5: just ignored the antics and figured they'd pass away. 825 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 2: Eventually. 826 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,760 Speaker 5: I even got rid of social media so I wouldn't 827 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 5: have to hear any more small town tales, though I 828 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,839 Speaker 5: ruined Mark's life. About two years into my relationship with Mark, 829 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,320 Speaker 5: and just after we got engaged, things with my toxic 830 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 5: family got really out of hand. Mark told me that 831 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,719 Speaker 5: I should just cut off my talks of family, and 832 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 5: I agreed, and I did. Even when I called off 833 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,760 Speaker 5: the wedding to Mark, I stayed as strange for my family. 834 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 5: I actually ended up reaching out to my family years 835 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 5: later when I was getting engaged to someone new, and 836 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 5: within minutes of hanging out with my dad to tell 837 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 5: him I'd like to meet up, Mark texted me. Within 838 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 5: minutes of talking to your dad, Yeah, that's awfully suspicious. 839 00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, your dad gave him that number. Yep, yep on 840 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 2: my new number. Oh yikes, your. 841 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,839 Speaker 5: Dad, Well, we already know that you were cutting off 842 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 5: your family. Seems like you made the right decision, and 843 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 5: that when I asked him where he got the number, 844 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 5: he said, you're dad. 845 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 2: Well, at least he's honest. 846 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 5: I can't even begin to tell you how my entire 847 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 5: world came crashing down in that moment. My dad confirmed 848 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,399 Speaker 5: that he had been in touch with Mark the entire time, 849 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 5: including the two years that I wasn't speaking with my 850 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 5: family while I was still engaged and wedding planning with Mark. 851 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 2: I explained, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait wait wait, 852 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 2: the guy who told you you should be cutting off 853 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 2: your whole family still talk to your dad and he's like, 854 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 2: you should get them cut him off. 855 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's like, you should cut them off. But I'm 856 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 5: I like him, so I'm going to stick around. Where 857 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,800 Speaker 5: do they build this guy the silly boy factory, This 858 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 5: silly boy nonsense factory. I explained to my dad that 859 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 5: this was deeply painful to me that they were in touch, 860 00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 5: and summarized all of the mental I had endured from Mark. 861 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 5: I explained to my dad that Mark was pills and 862 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 5: denying having a problem with it. My dad said that 863 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 5: he didn't believe me about the or the pills, that 864 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 5: he wouldn't stop being friends with. 865 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 2: Mark, and that they were now best friends. Are you 866 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,760 Speaker 2: sure there's no way? I said that at the same 867 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 2: moment that came. 868 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,280 Speaker 5: It's funny, so much so, in fact, that they regularly 869 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 5: go on vacations together. 870 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,320 Speaker 2: What the frick the dads are like? I found a 871 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 2: pal you're trying to take from me. Friendship comes in 872 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 2: all shapes and sizes, Buddy, you could be friends with 873 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 2: anyone else on everyone else you know. You could try 874 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,280 Speaker 2: to be friends with, like George Clooney or something. Please, 875 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 2: I would rather you bother George than be with this guy. 876 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 5: That last part really irks me. I carried a lot 877 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 5: of guilt about cutting off my toxic family, but in 878 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 5: that single moment of time, I knew that it was 879 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 5: the right decision for me. I did not include my 880 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 5: family at my wedding and just carried on with life 881 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 5: without them, as I had been doing. About two years 882 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 5: after my wedding to my husband, my siblings reached out 883 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 5: to me and told me that one of our siblings 884 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,879 Speaker 5: was severely ill and suggested that I come right away. 885 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 5: My husband and I drove back to my hometown to 886 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 5: meet up with my family for what I thought might 887 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 5: be the final time I would see my sibling. It 888 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 5: was a very uncomfortable drive down to see my family, 889 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 5: whom I hadn't seen in almost a decade. The whole 890 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 5: time I kept worrying that somehow Mark would be there, 891 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 5: but I didn't want to ask my family, if he 892 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 5: would be seeing my sibling felt like the most important priority. 893 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,320 Speaker 5: When the door opened at my dad's house again, my 894 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 5: entire world came crashing down. What I saw in front 895 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 5: of me was even worse than seeing Mark. There in 896 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 5: front of me was every single piece of furniture from 897 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 5: the house that I shared with Mark. Back when we 898 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 5: were splitting. I told Mark that I never wanted to 899 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 5: see any furniture or any memory from our time together, 900 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,359 Speaker 5: and that I was needing a fresh start and thus 901 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 5: leaving it all behind. Big mistake. Like a classic self 902 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,360 Speaker 5: absorbed person, he made sure that I would see that 903 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 5: furniture again when I least expected. 904 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 2: Oh no, he plotted. 905 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,320 Speaker 5: He was like, Oh, she's not gonna expect the furniture 906 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 5: to be in a parent's house. 907 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 2: I used in the bathroom at Great and Barrol. He 908 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:15,399 Speaker 2: just starts leaving. 909 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,360 Speaker 5: He goes to like all the places that she goes to, 910 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,800 Speaker 5: like all the restaurants and stuff, and leaves like a 911 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 5: vase that they had the saltshakers, just on a table, 912 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 5: and she's like that looks so familiar, and she's going crazy. 913 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,800 Speaker 2: She's like, why is the baby grand piano in Chipotle? 914 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 5: He gifted it all to my dad, including the bed 915 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 5: that we slept on crossis literally burn that. 916 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 2: Like, honestly, wtf. 917 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 5: I tried so hard to just ignore all of this 918 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 5: and focus on spending time with my siblings. Thankfully, my 919 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 5: siblings did pull through, and the joy of that led 920 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 5: me to want to try again with my family. Not 921 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,360 Speaker 5: too long after this for kindling with my siblings and 922 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 5: my dad, my family threw my dad a major milestone 923 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:03,320 Speaker 5: birthday party, but they didn't because Mark was invited and 924 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 5: they apparently didn't want to make him and his fiance uncomfortable. 925 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:11,399 Speaker 2: What what are we taught? Where are your family? Why 926 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 2: are your family actively insane? Which one is your kid? Dad? 927 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,720 Speaker 2: Which one is the child that is yours? 928 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 5: I found out that Mark had spent every holiday with 929 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,359 Speaker 5: my family for years at this point. Not too long 930 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 5: after that birthday party, Mark got married and my dad 931 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 5: was a groomsman in his wedding. 932 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 2: This is crazy, that's honestly, pathetically, that's oh my god. 933 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 5: Does anyone else think this is like really weird and 934 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 5: sort of bad luck for Mark's new marriage? 935 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:38,959 Speaker 2: Yeah? 936 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,239 Speaker 5: After about four years of family things happening which I 937 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,800 Speaker 5: wasn't invited to, and a few more failed attempts to 938 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 5: get my dad to understand why his friendship with Mark 939 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 5: was so painful for me. I came to the conclusion 940 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 5: that this was a losing battle. I stopped trying to 941 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 5: explain myself. I just stepped away slowly, again feeling betrayed 942 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 5: by my parent. Well, but here's where things get interesting. 943 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 5: My sibling told me that my dad and Mark's friendship 944 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,440 Speaker 5: came to an end when Mark's wife found substances in 945 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 5: his bag. Apparently Mark cold called my dad asking if 946 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 5: Mark could come by to get my dad back at 947 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 5: the substances that accidentally got in Mark's bag. Ooh while 948 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 5: visiting my dad, and my dad refused to lie for 949 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,920 Speaker 5: Mark and say that they were his. I mean, at 950 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,760 Speaker 5: least he draws the line at being, you know, accused 951 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 5: of taking. 952 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,240 Speaker 2: The fall for this, which I bet you he didn't 953 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 2: even know about that. 954 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 955 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 5: Apparently Mark's wife is filing for divorce. 956 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense. There is a little bit left 957 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,319 Speaker 2: to this story. Do you have any final thoughts? Oh? Yeah, 958 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,880 Speaker 2: addictions crazy, Yeah, I feel like we don't even know 959 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 2: what this guy really is. 960 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,920 Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely, And I think that it seems like, oh, 961 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 5: his dad is finally being like, oh, he is addicted 962 00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 5: because he originally said I like, oh, I don't believe you. 963 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 2: That's not true. That's not true. 964 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 5: So now he has proof coming from Mark that that's true, 965 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,799 Speaker 5: that Mark has a problem, and so I wonder how 966 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,359 Speaker 5: he'll react to this. But there's a little bit left 967 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 5: to the story. With Mark out of the picture, it 968 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,440 Speaker 5: felt like a good idea to get close to my 969 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 5: dad again, and I started to call him more. It 970 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,719 Speaker 5: didn't take long before I learned that my dad and 971 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 5: Mark made up and Mark is back in the picture. Wow, 972 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 5: that was easy, And now I feel myself backing away, 973 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 5: But it feels like for good. I think you need 974 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,480 Speaker 5: to Am I wrong for not wanting to stay connected 975 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,480 Speaker 5: to my dad and just stepping away for good now 976 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,280 Speaker 5: that Mark is again back of the picture. 977 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 2: Am I the AO for not just getting over it already? 978 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,839 Speaker 2: Leaving is how you get over this? Yeah, you need 979 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 2: to leave. 980 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 5: This isn't fixable because your dad doesn't want to fix it. 981 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 5: He wants to actively make it worse. He has no 982 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 5: desire to have a relationship with you because he cares 983 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 5: more about his relationship with Mark. But that, folks, is 984 00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,720 Speaker 5: the end of that story. You're not the ALP. Please 985 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,800 Speaker 5: don't continue to try and have a relationship with a 986 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 5: person who doesn't care about you. 987 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 2: Agreed. Hey, it's sam og host. We're gonnet back to 988 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:08,360 Speaker 2: these delectable stories. 989 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,400 Speaker 1: But here's three of bits of ads from our sponsors 990 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 1: to help support the show. 991 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,440 Speaker 2: I started growing gray hairs because of how difficult my 992 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 2: parents were being. You're making me age. My son's high 993 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 2: school graduation was earlier this week. I had invited my parents, 994 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,239 Speaker 2: both in their late seventies, at the beginning of the year. 995 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 2: They kept sea sawing oncoming or not coming. Eventually they 996 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:35,120 Speaker 2: agreed to come like three weeks before their graduation, which okay, 997 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 2: cool whatever. They had to drive in from out of state. 998 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 2: And by the way, this comes from user cimarron gnome 999 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,440 Speaker 2: And if you want to submit your own stories, go 1000 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,840 Speaker 2: to the r slash okay storytime subreddit. So day of 1001 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,399 Speaker 2: the schedule was pretty clear to them. Ceremony starts at 1002 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 2: X doors open an hour beforehand. Be there fifteen minutes 1003 00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,320 Speaker 2: before that because that is when parking opens up. Parking 1004 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,840 Speaker 2: is going to fill up quickly because over two hundred 1005 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,920 Speaker 2: and fifty kids were graduating, and you know, some of 1006 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,000 Speaker 2: these kids had about seven generations of family showing up. 1007 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 2: Dang okay. I told them to meet me at the 1008 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 2: parking garage at the fifteen minutes before doors open mark. 1009 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 2: So what do they do leave their hotel located twenty 1010 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:27,280 Speaker 2: five minutes away one minute before that. I got witched 1011 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,560 Speaker 2: at for not waiting for them, even though fifteen minutes 1012 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 2: after the doors opened it was turning into standing room only. 1013 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 2: When we realized they weren't going to be here and 1014 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,319 Speaker 2: parked by the time the doors opened, my husband, other 1015 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,959 Speaker 2: kid and I went to go wait in the line, which, 1016 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 2: thank goodness we did, because about five minutes later, the 1017 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 2: line was down the street to the next block over. 1018 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 2: They wanted us to come back out to get them, 1019 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 2: which was impossible because the sea of people were all 1020 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,839 Speaker 2: pushing one way. Not about to battle an entire army 1021 00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,279 Speaker 2: of people to get back out. No other way out either. 1022 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,880 Speaker 2: We were lucky to get the seats we did, because 1023 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,239 Speaker 2: by the time my parents texted they had arrived, it 1024 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,960 Speaker 2: was turning into standing room being the only thing left. 1025 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 2: Is that normal? What kind of ceremony is this? I'm confused. 1026 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,279 Speaker 2: My mom then spent the entire first part of the 1027 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 2: ceremony people watching with a super judgy face on. She 1028 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,400 Speaker 2: kept telling my other kid that the lady with all 1029 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 2: the piercings and tattoos probably doesn't have a job going 1030 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 2: nowhere in life. Blah blah blah blah blah, what a 1031 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 2: fun person. I shushed her and got the look, which 1032 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,839 Speaker 2: no longer affects me since I just spent the last 1033 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,560 Speaker 2: eighteen years improving the look. Also, for some reason, my 1034 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,400 Speaker 2: son's full middle name didn't get read out. They just 1035 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,799 Speaker 2: said his initial instead. I don't know why or how 1036 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,920 Speaker 2: it got missed, but I nearly missed getting pictures of 1037 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 2: my son getting his diploma on stage because she was 1038 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 2: witching about it. Some pictures turned out blurry because she 1039 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,600 Speaker 2: kept smacking my arm. Luckily my husband got some pictures, 1040 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,320 Speaker 2: but like holy f I would have cried if we 1041 00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 2: didn't get some sort of decent picture. She snapped in 1042 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,680 Speaker 2: my other kid because we did the whole whoo. I mean, 1043 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,320 Speaker 2: his name was called compared to the other people in 1044 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,719 Speaker 2: the arena. I doubt he even heard us because it 1045 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 2: was just me and the other kid. Husband couldn't because 1046 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,920 Speaker 2: he was trying to line up shots around people walking 1047 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,200 Speaker 2: in front of us. And his brain couldn't do two 1048 00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:16,799 Speaker 2: things at once. 1049 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:17,320 Speaker 3: Lol. 1050 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,600 Speaker 2: I've always thought that's the dumbest thing ever. Did they 1051 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,160 Speaker 2: do that at your greg? Ho are you're not allowed 1052 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,400 Speaker 2: to cheer for each individual? I'm sorry you're gonna have 1053 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,279 Speaker 2: to like literally shut all the way up about that, dude. 1054 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't like that either. I understand that they're like, 1055 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,400 Speaker 5: we're trying to be quick and we'll cheer at the end, 1056 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,840 Speaker 5: but like, well, the parents are got to. 1057 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:34,800 Speaker 2: Cheer for two seconds. 1058 00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 5: The one problem I think it should just be like, 1059 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:38,759 Speaker 5: if it's not your kid, don't cheer for them. 1060 00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 2: It's just like, what, like, what are we supposed to 1061 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,440 Speaker 2: be just like lizard robot people? 1062 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's sally parents individual parents to like 1063 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 5: shout for their child. 1064 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,759 Speaker 2: Anyway, one of the kids speakers, who's I mean, maybe 1065 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 2: class president, I don't know, was talking about evolution and 1066 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:54,960 Speaker 2: how we got to the point we were at today. 1067 00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,520 Speaker 2: Classic speech. Yeah, my mom complained about. 1068 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:02,359 Speaker 5: That they should be thinking God, God, God them here. 1069 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,480 Speaker 2: Thanks mom, not even a Christian school mother, but anyway, 1070 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,200 Speaker 2: she also complained because some of the young ladies were 1071 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,320 Speaker 2: wearing head scarves. They let them in this school, like 1072 00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,240 Speaker 2: Jesus Christmas on a cracker. It's an effing public school. 1073 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:16,440 Speaker 5: Mom. 1074 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,400 Speaker 2: There's still people just like you, though probably less of 1075 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 2: a witch bag. Also got comments from her about the 1076 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,239 Speaker 2: kids with green hair, blue hair, purple hair, and one 1077 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:30,200 Speaker 2: girl with clothes. They're just going nowhere in life clown clothes. Dude, 1078 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,640 Speaker 2: wherever you are in life, Grandma, I don't want to 1079 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,000 Speaker 2: be there. I do not want to be going towards 1080 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,760 Speaker 2: your end of the life. I want to mark exactly 1081 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,479 Speaker 2: where you're at, so all the way around. 1082 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 4: I want to go to this high school graduation. Sorry, 1083 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,520 Speaker 4: someone had a clown clothes. That's kind of sick, said 1084 00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:51,200 Speaker 4: at the same time. So, Grandma, they just graduated, their 1085 00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,040 Speaker 4: life is just starting. Girl with the clown clothes was 1086 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,440 Speaker 4: wearing a bunch of the different graduation chords and had 1087 00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 4: her name on the program with several scholarships listed. Pointedly 1088 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,839 Speaker 4: told my other kid, and this is why we don't 1089 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:03,920 Speaker 4: judge people based on their looks. They have tried to 1090 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,360 Speaker 4: talk my son out of going to his choice of college. 1091 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 4: They think it's going to be too far away from me. 1092 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,360 Speaker 2: Once we drop them off, we have to move across 1093 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 2: the country because military orders, and that it is in 1094 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,920 Speaker 2: a bad part of town. They're trying to paint some 1095 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,320 Speaker 2: picture that my son is going to be, you know, 1096 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:24,400 Speaker 2: left for the vultures. The city the school is in 1097 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,280 Speaker 2: has some crime, obviously, but the college itself has released 1098 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,840 Speaker 2: their safety reports and haven't had much issues. Or I 1099 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,880 Speaker 2: used her favorite line when I voice a worry, I 1100 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,520 Speaker 2: think it's all left to God. It's funny. I'm not 1101 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,160 Speaker 2: even religious or Christian anymore, and honestly, that is some 1102 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 2: of the best advice you can get. Managed to get 1103 00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,800 Speaker 2: the look again when I said that they're here for 1104 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,880 Speaker 2: the rest of the weekend. We have another promotion ceremony 1105 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,600 Speaker 2: for other kid this weekend, eighth grade, so send help. 1106 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,040 Speaker 2: I think dealing with them has given me gray hairs. 1107 00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,280 Speaker 2: And there's an update. 1108 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,440 Speaker 5: I mean, Bay, I think honestly, Okay, the thing is, 1109 00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,560 Speaker 5: I think your mom sucks, but I think this is 1110 00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,040 Speaker 5: like very like someone said in the chat. They were like, 1111 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:10,000 Speaker 5: this is so like older mother daughter fight. Yeah that 1112 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,920 Speaker 5: is yeah, she's like this like super like, which does 1113 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,919 Speaker 5: not excuse it. But she's that annoying conservative family member 1114 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,440 Speaker 5: that you have that's always like yeah, and you have 1115 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,680 Speaker 5: to like stop and then like you kind of get 1116 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,759 Speaker 5: that little dig in or about the you know, it's 1117 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:25,319 Speaker 5: up to God. 1118 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,399 Speaker 4: And yeah, if you don't have anything nice to say 1119 00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:33,480 Speaker 4: anything at all, Yeah, just sit there and twiddle your thumbs. 1120 00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,839 Speaker 2: Yep. Update, I have gotten a few dms from people 1121 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,839 Speaker 2: wondering if I made it through my parents visit. Well 1122 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,880 Speaker 2: here I am. I did make it through, but my 1123 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:46,279 Speaker 2: relationship with my mother did not. Oo rough sounds like 1124 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:47,200 Speaker 2: it's probably for the best. 1125 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,279 Speaker 5: Honestly, she sounds like she's stuck in her ways. 1126 00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,239 Speaker 2: We are currently not on speaking terms. Well, to be 1127 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,880 Speaker 2: more specific, I'm not on speaking terms with her, and 1128 00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,520 Speaker 2: she has been refusing to accept that. The weekend after 1129 00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,879 Speaker 2: my post, we had made plans to meet at ten am. 1130 00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,920 Speaker 2: They showed up at eight am, ready to go with 1131 00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,920 Speaker 2: no place to go. They made plans to stay for 1132 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,439 Speaker 2: so long, but made zero plans to fill that time, 1133 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,560 Speaker 2: thinking I would magically come up with something to do 1134 00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,439 Speaker 2: at eight am on a Saturday morning, like I can't 1135 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,680 Speaker 2: even think straight due to lack of coffee at this hour. 1136 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,240 Speaker 2: I am not a morning person and have no idea 1137 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,040 Speaker 2: where my bra is, but sure I'll pull out something 1138 00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,479 Speaker 2: to do from my butt. They were just like, let's 1139 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,960 Speaker 2: just do what you would normally would do on a weekend, 1140 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,319 Speaker 2: which number one, it would be physically impossible for them 1141 00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,719 Speaker 2: to do, considering my mother probably needed a walker a 1142 00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,120 Speaker 2: decade ago, but refuses to use it because it ages her. 1143 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,440 Speaker 2: And two, they have no interest in video games or 1144 00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,120 Speaker 2: board games. I already tried getting them to play a 1145 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,200 Speaker 2: board game previously and my mom stuck her nose up 1146 00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,440 Speaker 2: at that. And three lots to do here, but ninety 1147 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,040 Speaker 2: five percent of the thing's worth doing are outdoors. My 1148 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,680 Speaker 2: mom cries her head off if it's over seventy one 1149 00:53:55,719 --> 00:54:01,560 Speaker 2: degrees outside. It's always I'm melting it's too hot, Like 1150 00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:06,399 Speaker 2: she's the wicked witch of the Midwest. It's funny. I like, Okay, 1151 00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,760 Speaker 2: you are cooking, right, cooking right now, man, you're cooking. Also, 1152 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,120 Speaker 2: my family and I don't really go out every weekend. 1153 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,719 Speaker 2: We like being home. We like being alone. I think 1154 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:20,200 Speaker 2: you just don't like people. So there, I was scouring 1155 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,560 Speaker 2: the internet for things to do with elderly people who 1156 00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,360 Speaker 2: can't walk in our area and still getting hit with 1157 00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:29,000 Speaker 2: go hike here are there all over there, while wondering 1158 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,719 Speaker 2: if parent daycare was a thing. Mom was chatting with 1159 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,040 Speaker 2: my husband when she decided to start talking about her 1160 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:40,120 Speaker 2: favorite subject, Ema Ima my stepsister slash her stepdaughter. But 1161 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,319 Speaker 2: the way she gushes about Emma makes you think Emma 1162 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:46,200 Speaker 2: craps gold nuggets and pukes diamonds, emeralds, and rubies, all 1163 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,239 Speaker 2: while having the cure to cancer in her head. While 1164 00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,120 Speaker 2: our parents got married, she kept asking me, why can't 1165 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,520 Speaker 2: you be more like Emma? Like, I don't know, Mom, 1166 00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:57,000 Speaker 2: maybe because I'm still a teenager while Emma is pushing thirty. 1167 00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,640 Speaker 5: That's totally insane to be, like, why get a sixteen 1168 00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:01,320 Speaker 5: year old, I'll be more like an adult. 1169 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:06,399 Speaker 2: It's ridiculous. And then the teenager's like, because she's she's 1170 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:10,960 Speaker 2: twice my age, she's thirty, she's my age times two. Naturally, 1171 00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,440 Speaker 2: Emma was going to be more ahead in life. But 1172 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,440 Speaker 2: from the day they married until now, I was constantly 1173 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,759 Speaker 2: compared to Emma, told to be like Emma, and occasionally 1174 00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,759 Speaker 2: called Emma. When I had a mental breakdown in my 1175 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,239 Speaker 2: early twenties and ended up in the psych word, I 1176 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,200 Speaker 2: was told to get over it or turn it over 1177 00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,920 Speaker 2: to God. But when Emma had a similar situation, it 1178 00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,399 Speaker 2: was all she needs all the help she can get. 1179 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,640 Speaker 2: Emma Mary's a crap stain of a man who mistreated her, 1180 00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,000 Speaker 2: and my mom is ready to scorch the world. But 1181 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:39,719 Speaker 2: when I was dating a guy who turned out to 1182 00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,160 Speaker 2: be harmful, it was my fault. You get the idea 1183 00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:46,439 Speaker 2: double standards. Yeah, I have no real issue with Emma, 1184 00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:48,279 Speaker 2: though it took me quite a bit in therapy to 1185 00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,359 Speaker 2: get to the point where I'm no longer resenting her. 1186 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,760 Speaker 2: These days, we're mainly Facebook friends, liking each other's random photos. 1187 00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,839 Speaker 2: So she's gushing to my husband about Emma. I'm only 1188 00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,359 Speaker 2: half listening until I hear her say, clear as effing day, 1189 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,759 Speaker 2: Emma is like the daughter I never had. Ooh ooh 1190 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,080 Speaker 2: you sure about that? That's tough, man, you have a daughter? Yeah, 1191 00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,399 Speaker 2: and I'd go I'd go knock, knock, knock, what's in there? 1192 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,840 Speaker 2: A bunch of rocks? We had to take you to 1193 00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,120 Speaker 2: the home. You don't even remember I'm your daughter. Let's 1194 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,080 Speaker 2: go get you a neurological profile. Yeah, that would actually, 1195 00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:24,200 Speaker 2: I think be the best way to do. Take it 1196 00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,320 Speaker 2: extremely seriously, because she definitely said this on purpose to 1197 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,959 Speaker 2: hurt you, So you not need to take this probably 1198 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,759 Speaker 2: really seriously like a doctor. This is the age that 1199 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,759 Speaker 2: it happens, you're probably exhibiting early signs of dementia. Let's 1200 00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,720 Speaker 2: get you to the hospital, right early onset Alzheimer's. I'm 1201 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,480 Speaker 2: getting Angry'd be like, nope, this is what happens to. 1202 00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:43,959 Speaker 2: People get mad when they develop Alzheimer's. They start getting 1203 00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:45,800 Speaker 2: angry at you. We're getting the car, I'm getting you 1204 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,400 Speaker 2: in the car, calling the police, calling the hospital, just 1205 00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,680 Speaker 2: to bother her because she deserves it. My husband and 1206 00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:55,040 Speaker 2: her husband went deer in the headlights, shocked. My son 1207 00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:59,160 Speaker 2: eighteen said, wtf. It took my daughter fourteen a few 1208 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,239 Speaker 2: seconds long, and it probably that's what she heard, but 1209 00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,799 Speaker 2: even she caught it. And she's not a morning person either. 1210 00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,800 Speaker 2: I basically just said, well, I guess that's that. You 1211 00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,320 Speaker 2: can get the f out now, dang saying all that business. 1212 00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,080 Speaker 2: That's also in a very appropriate respont but're like, oh, 1213 00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:14,600 Speaker 2: you don't have a daughter. I guess you can't be 1214 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,480 Speaker 2: in my house anymore. By yeah, of course, I was 1215 00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:21,800 Speaker 2: hit by the oh what what did I do? What happened? 1216 00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,400 Speaker 2: I was hit by that bit. My son repeated what 1217 00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,760 Speaker 2: she said, so she started her gaslighting. BS, you took 1218 00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,200 Speaker 2: it the wrong way. That's not what I meant. And 1219 00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,240 Speaker 2: then you say, what do you mean? What did you mean? 1220 00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,840 Speaker 2: The only thing that that means is no, no, no, 1221 00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:36,760 Speaker 2: not the daughter I never had. It's just I wish 1222 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:40,120 Speaker 2: that this person was like it. I wish you were 1223 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,280 Speaker 2: like this person instead of all the things that you 1224 00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:44,280 Speaker 2: are and the way that you be. I wish you 1225 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,840 Speaker 2: were a totally different person. That's what I meant. Yeah, yeah, 1226 00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:51,000 Speaker 2: I think with the help of those who commented on 1227 00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,560 Speaker 2: my last post, I shined up my backbone a little 1228 00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:55,480 Speaker 2: because I just told her to get the f out. 1229 00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,480 Speaker 2: My husband says, I told her, if you don't have 1230 00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,200 Speaker 2: a daughter, then why the f I have some crusty 1231 00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,720 Speaker 2: old farts in my house, and threatened to throw all 1232 00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,240 Speaker 2: of her crap out the window. I don't remember saying 1233 00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,680 Speaker 2: any of that, but my son backs it up. I 1234 00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,680 Speaker 2: don't remember a lot in a few minutes it took 1235 00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,040 Speaker 2: to get her tossed out. Oh, he's like, I blacked out. 1236 00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,600 Speaker 2: I just went full hulk on her. Yeah, she was gone. 1237 00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,440 Speaker 2: I mean makes sense after you put up with her 1238 00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:23,400 Speaker 2: antics like at the graduation, well, your whole life. She 1239 00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:28,520 Speaker 2: had literally from the geta fair After she finally left 1240 00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:32,880 Speaker 2: my house, I broke down crying and got sick. Yeah, 1241 00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,360 Speaker 2: I don't do confrontation very well. She keeps trying to call, text, 1242 00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,000 Speaker 2: and email me, and my husband managed to get her 1243 00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,720 Speaker 2: blocked on my phone, so at least I don't get 1244 00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:45,280 Speaker 2: bombarded with calls and text anymore. She was call and 1245 00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,360 Speaker 2: text boming me the first day before I blocked her, 1246 00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,800 Speaker 2: I had over fifty missed calls and forty text messages 1247 00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,160 Speaker 2: from her. She also managed to fill up my voicemail, 1248 00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,440 Speaker 2: not that I listened to any of it. Husband deleted 1249 00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,040 Speaker 2: all of them for me too. W husband. Yeah, she 1250 00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,400 Speaker 2: only has my old email account that I use for 1251 00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,400 Speaker 2: spam now, so I'm not really seeing those either. Though 1252 00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:04,960 Speaker 2: last I looked over a week ago, there were around 1253 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,320 Speaker 2: twenty emails just from her. I'm starting to get a 1254 00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,120 Speaker 2: few letters in the snail mail from her too, so 1255 00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,920 Speaker 2: little joy. I guess she told some sob story to 1256 00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,760 Speaker 2: Emma too, because she reached out to me. Luckily, she 1257 00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,320 Speaker 2: listened to my side and just told me good for you, 1258 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:22,840 Speaker 2: thanks Emma. Yeah. See, Emma's not so bad. She just 1259 00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,320 Speaker 2: is the favorite. It's not her fault. I was just 1260 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,320 Speaker 2: that victim of like, yeah, have you ever had that 1261 00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,160 Speaker 2: moment where someone's like, yeah, that person rocks and you're 1262 00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:31,560 Speaker 2: like no, no, no, don't like me person. 1263 00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:32,000 Speaker 4: Stop. 1264 00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:32,800 Speaker 2: Oh stop. 1265 00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:36,480 Speaker 5: It It's like when, yeah, like when someone's like who 1266 00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:38,200 Speaker 5: you hate loves a person and you're like, well, I 1267 00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,640 Speaker 5: gotta hate this person, and then you were like, oh wait, no, 1268 00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:42,920 Speaker 5: they're cool today. 1269 00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. So she also told me she has never been 1270 00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,000 Speaker 2: a huge fan of my mom for reasons like this, 1271 00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:54,960 Speaker 2: Emma's ema, but she only plays nice and stays civil 1272 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,120 Speaker 2: for her dad's sake. It made me feel a little 1273 00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,280 Speaker 2: better knowing that Saint Emma dislikes her too. I mean, 1274 01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,919 Speaker 2: we're almost at the end here. I gotta say, yeah, 1275 01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:08,120 Speaker 2: I think you can keep ignoring her. I yeah, I 1276 01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:09,240 Speaker 2: think that you're better off. 1277 01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:13,360 Speaker 5: I think there are certain situations where you have a 1278 01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,880 Speaker 5: frustrating family member and you can kind of just you know, 1279 01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,560 Speaker 5: not focus on them, but still have them in your life. 1280 01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,000 Speaker 5: In this case, I think it's gotten to a point 1281 01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,240 Speaker 5: where literally everything she does is just hurtful and mean 1282 01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:28,520 Speaker 5: and frustrating and annoying. And it's like I don't even 1283 01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,400 Speaker 5: want her. I don't like it's doing nothing for me 1284 01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,920 Speaker 5: or my kids to have her around. So until she 1285 01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,520 Speaker 5: learns how to not be a narcissist. She can go 1286 01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,320 Speaker 5: off and sit in a corner by herself. 1287 01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:40,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be really hard for do that. Yeah, 1288 01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:44,400 Speaker 2: let's finish this story. I was a mess for about 1289 01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,200 Speaker 2: a week after everything happened. I still am a mess, 1290 01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,040 Speaker 2: but less so. My husband and kids have been working 1291 01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,760 Speaker 2: hard to distract me, and I have been keeping up 1292 01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,120 Speaker 2: with my therapy sessions every week. She even got me 1293 01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:58,280 Speaker 2: in for an emergency session next Monday. Luckily, my summer 1294 01:00:58,400 --> 01:00:59,200 Speaker 2: is about to get busy. 1295 01:00:59,440 --> 01:00:59,640 Speaker 4: Oh. 1296 01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:03,000 Speaker 2: Husband is taking a month off, having a garage sale, 1297 01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,440 Speaker 2: preparing to move to a new state, getting my son 1298 01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:07,680 Speaker 2: ready for college, so I will have plenty to do 1299 01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,120 Speaker 2: to keep my mind off things. I did tell my 1300 01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,560 Speaker 2: kids they were allowed to have a relationship with either 1301 01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,120 Speaker 2: grandma or grandpa, but they were both like nah, they 1302 01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:19,400 Speaker 2: made my mom cry. Yeah, w kids, and then they 1303 01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:23,640 Speaker 2: just proceeded to kick my button Mario Kart, which they 1304 01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,720 Speaker 2: will do. The kids do that. Kids have a habit. 1305 01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:30,280 Speaker 2: The kids they yet But folks, that's the end of 1306 01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:33,760 Speaker 2: that story and the end of that episode. So if 1307 01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,320 Speaker 2: you love us, make sure to subscribe. We love you 1308 01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:38,280 Speaker 2: and Semamo