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Speaker 1: Jeff Warris, did you do Jeck Jack Morris, did you

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Speaker 1: Jack Uarrens? Drive Time? Ryan Sex texted Joy Actually, Jeff

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Speaker 1: Warres Drive Time starts right now. It was a tough

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Speaker 1: day today. I mean, it's a tough day and all

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Speaker 1: of that's how this business is. I mean, it's tough

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Speaker 1: and then a quarterback that I have a lot of

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Speaker 1: respect for his toughness. And like I told both those guys,

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Speaker 1: it's not one coach or one person that's on all

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Speaker 1: of us. Starts with me, but I've got to make

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Speaker 1: Good morning, and welcome to Jack's Drive Time. Ryan Sexton,

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Speaker 1: Ashlyn Sullivan, Joe Fortune, not outstilling cold, Jeff logging me around.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, touch is pretty way, pretty good way to

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Speaker 1: describe it. Uh Sunday afternoon was pretty tough too, And

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Speaker 1: because he wasn't going over there to be a peacemaker. Right. Um.

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Speaker 1: From that moment forward, a really tough two months became

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Speaker 1: almost impossibly difficult. And so yesterday morning we finished drive

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Speaker 1: going to change offensive coordinators, and then a little later

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Speaker 1: the quarterback, and you just thought, how much worse can

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Speaker 1: this thing get? He thought, oh boy, here it comes.

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Speaker 1: Well and so and then that's why they made the change,

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Speaker 1: right Um. And let's be clear, Nate Hackett is a

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Speaker 1: good football coach. When they elevated him after they fired

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Speaker 1: Greg Olsen, if you remember that, here it comes Nate,

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Speaker 1: and they were in the middle of a two game

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Speaker 1: two in a row. Uh. They went on to lose

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Speaker 1: the ballgame here against Tennessee on Christmas Eve. So this,

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Speaker 1: by no means solves the problem. It's an attempt to

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Speaker 1: So Scott Milanovitch takes over as the play caller, and

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure how much he was on the sideline

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if he wasn't calling some plays on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: He was that animated, that active. They kept that very quiet,

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Speaker 1: so here's the move, and some people applauded it. I

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Speaker 1: a a new starting quarterback. He's without the best player

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Speaker 1: I guess Tom Coffin was on the Jaguars radio partner

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Speaker 1: But you know, Ronnie Harrison is a guy who has

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Speaker 1: Our big thing three is hope today and two of

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Speaker 1: but how they can retool it. Well, let's start with

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Speaker 1: big things. Big thing one is change, and there was

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Speaker 1: he's been in UM where he's not really prepared that week,

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Speaker 1: the right reasons. Number one, he cost his team a win.

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Speaker 1: He's out. They're gonna throw him my of this game.

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Speaker 1: And then obviously it became clear that they were going

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Speaker 1: clear what he did wrong, so appeal and all, but

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Speaker 1: it's clearly noted. What was I want to see this

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Speaker 1: Because he's a young player and a guy who you know,

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Speaker 1: can build a range, right, you get Brandon Linder back.

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Speaker 1: Eric Flowers looks to me and I had a coach

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Speaker 1: tell me on Sunday, the guy's got incredible athletic potential.

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Speaker 1: Work with him. Right, You've got Cam Robinson coming back.

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Speaker 1: You've got some guys that you can build around on

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Speaker 1: that offensive line. You need to draft. Right. You're not

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Speaker 1: gonna go out and spend big money in free agency,

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Speaker 1: but you've got some guys on the offensive line that

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Speaker 1: you can bring back and build around. I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: You've got Leonard for Nette. I love the combination of

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Speaker 1: Leonard and Carlos last week in the first half, right again,

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Speaker 1: a reason to believe that you can create a running

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Speaker 1: game the quarterback in the passing game. Well, you've got

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Speaker 1: Chark indeed Westbrook both have have looked like guys that

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Speaker 1: you can count on. On the defensive side of the ball,

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Speaker 1: there's a guy at every level, right, two guys up front,

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Speaker 1: I think that you look absolutely going forward. You've got

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Speaker 1: Unique and gon Way um Um and Marcel Darius. I

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Speaker 1: think Tavin Bryant is a young guy that can slide inside.

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Speaker 1: He made some plays on Sunday afternoon. People see that, right.

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Speaker 1: But a guy who has a lot of upside um

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Speaker 1: Miles Jack Leon Jacobs, who has as a strong side backer.

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Speaker 1: You haven't seen a lot of him because the league

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Speaker 1: doesn't use that very well. But Jitlyn and a J

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Speaker 1: boy played and I asked him yesterday, I said that

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Speaker 1: your best game and he just kind of smiled. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Didn't want to take credit. Beat on his chest on

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Speaker 1: a day that everything was going down. No but he

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Speaker 1: was running the routes for the receivers in front of

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Speaker 1: him and then Ronnie Harrison. Um, there are plenty of

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Speaker 1: young players on this team that you can build around.

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Speaker 1: You have to figure out passing attack, and I guess

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Speaker 1: Tom Goughlin said this morning that that's what fans want,

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Speaker 1: that's what the league is becoming. Let's let's leave this

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Speaker 1: a block which has gone a little long this morning

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Speaker 1: with this thought, and that is is that when you

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Speaker 1: look at Kansas City, you look like you're playing in

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Speaker 1: a different league. You can't. You can't do that anymore.

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Speaker 1: You can't. It worked last year, We thought it would

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Speaker 1: work this year. You must start moving in that direction.

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Speaker 1: Whether I like it or not. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: see forty five to forty in games. Um. I'd seven

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Speaker 1: games with the Jaguars up in front. But they're not

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Speaker 1: calling us, well, no, and that's not what the fans want.

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Speaker 1: That's not apparently what the league wants. So if that's it,

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Speaker 1: and I go back to that feeling that I said

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Speaker 1: earlier that it just feels like this is the end,

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Speaker 1: four number five in Jacksonville. Um, if that's the story,

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Speaker 1: if that's what the league is now, you've got to

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Speaker 1: get caught up with it. So with all of that said,

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Speaker 1: let's take a break. We'll come back. Jeff log Him

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Speaker 1: Don't forget our Twitter poll. We're asking you who you

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Speaker 1: want to see more of in December. The first one

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Speaker 1: we start focusing on where this team is headed. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars are focused on Sunday and the Indianapolis Colts

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Speaker 1: in a one o'clock kickoff here at ever Bank Field.

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Speaker 1: It will be Cody Kestler's first start in a Jaguars uniform. Um.

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Speaker 1: That's what Ashley's analysis is about, is the Cody Kestler story,

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Speaker 1: and it's been quite the story. Obviously, he was not

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Speaker 1: given a great chance but the Browns NFL games. Eight

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Speaker 1: games as a rookie for the brown six touchdowns and

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Speaker 1: two interceptions during that time. And then you come to

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Speaker 1: this time here when he went in for the game

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Speaker 1: for Blake Bortles in Houston, one of thirty passes for

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Speaker 1: a hundred and fifties six yards a touchdown, excited the crowd,

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Speaker 1: excited the bench at times. Now he's getting another new chance.

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Speaker 1: You go back to his time with Cleveland where he

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Speaker 1: was beat out for Kaiser in the depth chart. Kaiser

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Speaker 1: went oh and fifteen as a starter. Kessler never got

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Speaker 1: the chance to see the field and Brian, we go

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Speaker 1: back to our time in August in the preseason when

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Speaker 1: we were doing the TV broadcast, and Cody Kessler was

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Speaker 1: brought into our production meeting, and you could tell all

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Speaker 1: he really wanted was a chance, a chance to prove himself.

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Speaker 1: Now he's going to get it as a starter in

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Speaker 1: a Jaguars uniform. Well, and I asked him the question.

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Speaker 1: It was, you know, it was a leadoff, just sort

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Speaker 1: of a big broad question. How different is it for

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Speaker 1: you here as the back up in Jacksonville, then it

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Speaker 1: was in Cleveland, and I expected him to go to,

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Speaker 1: you know, better team, higher expectations. And what he went

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Speaker 1: to is he thought this was a better place for

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Speaker 1: him because last year in Cleveland, as they kept losing,

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Speaker 1: he thought he deserved a chance. That John Kaiser was

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Speaker 1: struggling mightily. Um Kessard started eight games the year before

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Speaker 1: for the Browns, and he thought, I'm going to get

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Speaker 1: my chance. I'm going to get my chance. Monday after Monday,

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Speaker 1: he thought it was coming in. It never did one thing.

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Speaker 1: He believed that he would get here was a fair

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Speaker 1: shot to be his best, his best, he hoped. And

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Speaker 1: he told us this. He hoped that that didn't mean

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Speaker 1: that they were benching Blake because he wanted to win

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Speaker 1: after an o N sixteen season, he wanted to be

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Speaker 1: on a winning team. But no doubt that he now

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Speaker 1: feels like he's being given a chance to prove himself.

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Speaker 1: And you play in this league because you want a

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Speaker 1: chance to prove yourself. Third round pick or not Cleveland

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Speaker 1: or Jacksonville, you want to play. I thought it was

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Speaker 1: a very telling answer. It's about a five minute answer.

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Speaker 1: I mean he just sort of gave us the entire

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Speaker 1: background that day. Yeah, expunged, but neither one of us.

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Speaker 1: I thought we'd see it this year. No, and we

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Speaker 1: didn't think we'd be seeing it almost in December that

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Speaker 1: August where we were talking to you know, he's got

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Speaker 1: a nice arm. Uh. He is a smart kid. He

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Speaker 1: understands the offense. There have been third round picks that

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Speaker 1: have come out of nowhere. There have been second round

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Speaker 1: picks that have risen UH into starting rules. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to put a cap on this and say, well,

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Speaker 1: he's just to fill in, right. I expect that the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars will draft a quarterback next year. I think you

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Speaker 1: have to for the reasons that we just talked about

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Speaker 1: you have to get with the modern era, the moment

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Let's leave it at that where it's

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Speaker 1: throw throw, throw, it's score score score. Um, so I

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Speaker 1: think they do that. But Casler has got a five

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Speaker 1: game audition here to show us what he's got in stature.

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Speaker 1: You look at the guy and you said, well, he's

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Speaker 1: not very big, is not He's not big like Blake

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Speaker 1: is big like the modern quarterback. But then Drew Brees

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Speaker 1: isn't very big either if you've ever seen him. And

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Speaker 1: he got it done and he found a way to

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Speaker 1: get it done. So let's see what Cody Kessler has. Um. Again,

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Speaker 1: he's not He doesn't have Leonard for net so he

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Speaker 1: doesn't have the best offensive player on the field. Um,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't have the starting offensive line. He's got a

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Speaker 1: pieced together offensive line. I don't know whether Chris Redal

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Speaker 1: start at left guard or if Josh Walker, who's more

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Speaker 1: of a guard than a tackle, but who was starting

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Speaker 1: at left tackle before he injured his foot, might step in.

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Speaker 1: Who knows what they're stuff Their process will be here

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Speaker 1: for the offensive line, but who knows what Scott Milanovic

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Speaker 1: has planned. Uh My guess is they're working hard at

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Speaker 1: it today though. Yeah, I think he's gonna have a

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Speaker 1: busy week. And you talked about not putting the cap

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Speaker 1: on it. This is all on him. You talk about

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Speaker 1: getting these opportunities in the NFL, and as a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: you hope one day that you will get this opportunity

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Speaker 1: next five weeks. It's all what he can do. Maybe

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Speaker 1: he can get something done. Uh, expectations, temper them, don't

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Speaker 1: happen right for them, and let it see. Don't see

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Speaker 1: what he might have So nice analysis, Thank you. Let's

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Speaker 1: go ahead. We're still waiting Jeff Logoman, who were told's

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Speaker 1: gonna be in a little bit early today. We'll find

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Speaker 1: out when he rolls in, we'll put him right on.

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Speaker 1: How about to take a deep breath Tuesday? That this

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Speaker 1: will be an unprecedented take a deep break, say that

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Speaker 1: every week, that this couldn't be more of a take

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Speaker 1: a deep breath Tuesday. But oh, after last yesterday's news,

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Speaker 1: I hope next week we're not saying that. Yeah, we'll

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Speaker 1: see first, take an eat breath Tuesday. Replying to the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars news from yesterday, you finally make the right decision

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Speaker 1: on getting rid of the offensive Cordiner and you bench

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Speaker 1: Bortals only through the job. He was told maybe you

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Speaker 1: could find some a lineman and give him time to

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Speaker 1: throw the ball. Well, if that's the logic, if that's

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Speaker 1: the rationale that he needs more time because the offensive

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Speaker 1: How is that? How's that on him? We go back

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Speaker 1: and we talked about it last week with Jeff that

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Speaker 1: the play call where Blake dropped and had the slant

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Speaker 1: in the second quarter to Ante Moncrief. There completely, he's

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Speaker 1: entirely open, it's a first down, plus he runs for

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Speaker 1: it gives you a chance maybe to score a touchdown. Um,

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Speaker 1: that's not his fault. Leonard for that third and five

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Speaker 1: So if you think that Bordles didn't have enough time,

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Speaker 1: then neither did the offensive coordinator. This was an all

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Speaker 1: or nothing sort of thing, and it tells you it

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Speaker 1: wasn't all the play calling. They just needed to do

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Speaker 1: something different. Maron said it was a package Jill, He's

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Speaker 1: number two. Well, I think it's a case of little,

639
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: too little, too late. The season is over, so evaluate

640
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: the young talent, see what veterans you walk one off

641
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: defense to return, get ready for the two thousand nineteen draft,

642
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: and get your wish lists fulfilled. Well, I mean that

643
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: is obvious, and we've been talking about it. I mean, now,

644
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: it's about finding who your core players are so that

645
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: next offseason you can go in and retool. I don't

646
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: think this is a rebuild, although when you bring a

647
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: quarterback on it certainly feels that way. Uh. And and

648
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: we're assuming at this point, because that's what you're doing,

649
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: we're assuming that that's what the case is going to be. Um. Yeah,

650
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: But they can't think that way. They have to think

651
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: about winning and and the idea and we'll just say

652
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: it right now. The idea that players and coaches care

653
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: at all about what you'll do next offseason in the

654
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: draft is set it to the side. They don't care.

655
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: They care about free agency because that impacts them. They

656
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: do not care about the draft. Do not even say

657
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: the word draft. Don't there's a line, there's a delineation, right,

658
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: Uh And I say this every I've said a lot

659
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: in the last ten years. Um, go out and play

660
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: and play to win. But if they don't win, you

661
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: the fans, you can see. The bright side is is

662
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: that you're in a position to get the players that

663
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: you need. There is a bright side to that. But

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00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: for the coaches, the players, for Tom, for Dave, that

665
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: whole crew, it's all about winning. They don't care about

666
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: the draft. Now, Tom and Tom and Dave, they do

667
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: care about the draft, but they would rather win games

668
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: than have a higher draft pick. I don't care about

669
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: the draft of this. They don't care about it at all.

670
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: They just want to win. So you, the fans, us

671
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: in a media role, can have the conversation about draft

672
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: picks and where you are and who you might take.

673
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: They're not doing it. Oh, the scouts are because they're

674
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: getting their board ready. But but just no, they aren't.

675
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: They aren't the players. Don't you know the old suck

676
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: for luck thing, right, I mean, that's no way they

677
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: know how Okay, last, take a deep breath. Tuesday. Marone

678
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: needs to go to He's always been mediocre and coaches

679
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: with his style and approached are a dying breed. We're

680
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: loaded on defense. Let's find a younger offensive minded coach. Um. Yeah,

681
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: So Doug Moron knows this stuff is coming. He's been

682
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: around the league long enough. He says it every Tuesday

683
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: in his press conference. Uh, he understands what this is about.

684
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: And so Ryan, who is rum Here's the thing I

685
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: would say. He coached with Sean Payton and coached with

686
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: Drew Brees. He knows what high octane offense looks like.

687
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: He also understood the situation when he took over here.

688
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: He had a stacked defense. They had the opportunity to

689
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: win games with a specific style and win now, because

690
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: let's face it, all the years of losing had worn

691
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: down this fan base and worn down this franchise, and

692
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: what really needed to happen was win. They need to

693
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: win with what they had at that moment, right, That's

694
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: why they made and get ready for this. Should have

695
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: drafted Watson, should have drafted Mahomes. That's what happens now.

696
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: No one was saying it last year when you're in

697
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: the a f C Championship game, and no one was

698
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: really saying it this year before this thing fell apart.

699
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: But now, obviously with hindsight, that will come to pass.

700
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: I'll just say this, Doug Morone knows how to play

701
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: high octane offense. He has seen it in his career.

702
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 1: They will, obviously, Tom often alluded to it on the

703
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: radio this morning. They will obviously go about finding a

704
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: way to compete with the Kansas Cities, Houston all of

705
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: a sudden, New Orleans of this world Rams. They can't

706
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: afford not to. They have to go forward. Their style

707
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: now has to change somewhat, right, But you look at

708
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: the past and when dun Brown became head coach, he

709
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: was using the tools he had, the tools that he

710
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: knew would be successful. But it brings us back to

711
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: something that I've been saying. If you go watch the Rams,

712
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: I mean really watch the Rams. And I'm not sure

713
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: how many of our folks here have have watched a

714
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: full RAMS game. Everything goes through the running back there.

715
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: It's just that they have Jared Goff and Todd Gurley

716
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,919
Speaker 1: and Brandon Cooks who are all playing at an insanely

717
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: high level this year. But it's all built on play

718
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: action in the running game out there, So it's not

719
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: as if they went back to the Stone Ages. It

720
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 1: just feels that way when you watch Patrick Mahomes and

721
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: Drew Brees. But if this offense functioned the way that

722
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,439
Speaker 1: they expected to, it would look a whole lot more

723
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: like the Los Angeles Rams than it does. That's that's

724
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: what you're moving towards. That's the track that you're on.

725
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: It just doesn't look anything like that because you don't

726
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: have Jared Goff handing off to Todd Gurley and throwing

727
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: down the field of Brandon Cooks. You're lacking weapons. Yeah,

728
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 1: you don't have the weapons Robert Woods, that whole crew.

729
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: So uh to say that Doug Marron has to go

730
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: because he's got a stone age offensive mind, Um, it

731
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: lacks perspective, it lacks broadness. Um, just remember, take a

732
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,720
Speaker 1: really deep breath. Okay. Jeff Laghaman just walked into studio.

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Speaker 1: Will spend a couple of minutes with him. When we

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Speaker 1: we are back on Jack's drive toime. Jeff Loghuman joins us. Now, um,

766
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: it's your thoughts on on yesterday now a day removed

767
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: from it. How have you digested it mentally? Which part? Yeah,

768
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: we have. We have a lot of elements. Let's start

769
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: with Nathaniel Hackett because that was the first time that

770
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: surprised me for two reasons. One, Nathaniel Hackett and Dug

771
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: have a history. And and look, if you're the head

772
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: coach and you're an offensive mind and your executive vice

773
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: president football Operations is an offensive mind, haven't they contributed

774
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: to the game plans so far? And so I think

775
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: everybody probably has to take a little bit of a

776
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: hand of responsibility in that. And uh so to to

777
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,919
Speaker 1: pinpoint one guy, it doesn't seem fair, but I also

778
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: understand why they did it, that they're trying to do

779
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 1: anything to stop what is a seven game losing streak.

780
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: So I get it, but I just want to be

781
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: very clear that they're responsible for it as well. And

782
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: I think it would be nice to have somebody say

783
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: that from within the organization. I think so so uh

784
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: from that standpoint, and I feel for Scott Milanovitch and

785
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: whoever's got to try to do it for going forward.

786
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: You're your left tackle, fourth left tackle, You're on your

787
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 1: second left guard. This week you'll be you already are

788
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: on your second left or your center, and then you

789
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 1: on your third tight end and your fourth tight end.

790
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: Your right guard is limping with a hamstring. He's gotten

791
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: it out. So and you now you don't have Leonard

792
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: for that, who was suspended last night. You got the

793
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: news he deserves to get suspended. Yeah, you know, I

794
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: think I thought he should have got suspend in for

795
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: two games. I think the league needs to be take

796
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: a stronger stance on that kind of thing. I told

797
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:05,720
Speaker 1: the story a few minutes ago, but I was standing

798
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: there right next to Leonard Is. He raced off the

799
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: sideline and I turned to somebody said this one is over,

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00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: because I knew he wasn't going over there to play peacemaker.

801
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 1: He wasn't going over to separate it. He was going

802
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: over and I thought, he's gonna get fish and he

803
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: swung instantly. Was gonna get suspended. It is not a

804
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: stretch to say they win the game if he stays in,

805
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 1: because you're gonna score first of all, to get to

806
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: I'll get to the first and goal at the one

807
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 1: in just a second, because I tell straight to that

808
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: last night on Jaguars All Access. But to to leave

809
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: the bench area, I think part of that was precipitated

810
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: by for Net was somewhat of a verbal verbal target

811
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 1: in that ball game. And I'm sure that the Buffalo

812
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: Bills defenders or we're doing what I would have done

813
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: as a defender. And then I've watched the previous two

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00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: games and I see Leonard four Nette has turned down

815
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: some opportunities that being physical. So I want to find

816
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: out if emotionally in physical league, can he be a

817
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: tough guy in this game, knowing that he is the

818
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 1: most important component to the offense. So I'm gonna I'm

819
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: gonna test him. I'm gonna test him mentally. I'm gonna

820
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: test him physically, and I think that's what the Buffalo

821
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: players we're doing in that game, which led up to

822
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: a little frustration that he was having that led him

823
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: from maybe run across the field and do what he did,

824
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: which was inexcusable. So now he's ejected first in goal

825
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: from the one Carlos Hyde is in the game, and

826
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: Carlos Hyde is not the goal lineback. Leonard Fournette is

827
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 1: the goal lineback. Well, Carlos Hide runs the wrong way.

828
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: He goes to the left and following Tommy Bohn and

829
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: when it's a split dive where he's supposed to go

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00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: to the right and get behind Norawell, who's the pulling

831
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,479
Speaker 1: guard from the left side, going to the right side,

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00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: so it's an easy walk in score of Leonard Fournett

833
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: is available there, New Year up by seven. Well, that

834
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: doesn't happen, and then you have the penalties that miss

835
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: field goal. The next score by the Buffalo Bills, you're

836
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: talking about a fourteen point swing. Jeff, it felt like

837
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: the momentum was was physic call that it was cascading

838
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: out of the stands onto the field. When Josh Lambeau

839
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 1: walked out to kick the field goal. I thought, this

840
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: gonna be tough. This is going to be a miss.

841
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: I just and this is a guy that doesn't miss

842
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 1: very much. But there was so much. It was all

843
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: literally it felt like a breeze. And there was already

844
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: a win there, so the moment just swung against him.

845
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: Let's let's move on because we know what this is,

846
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: um Cody Kestler. Again, he doesn't have all these weapons?

847
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: What what? What? What are they gonna do with Cody

848
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 1: Kessler in the lineup that's different than they did with Blake?

849
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: Are they just gonna run the same thing you suppose

850
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: and hope that he runs it better. Okay, first of all,

851
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: we all understand that the components are weakendan Yeah, you're

852
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:49,919
Speaker 1: now left tackle, second left guard, second center, third tight end. Okay,

853
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 1: all those things with second running back. Okay, that's the deal.

854
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: But I think in this past game, because last night

855
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: I showed three of the six plays at Blake Bortles

856
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 1: had that were bad, and some of them are just

857
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 1: they're easy. I mean they're not hard. I mean they're

858
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: hard for me or you are actually you, I mean

859
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: we we can't throw the football twelve yards and do

860
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: it accurately sometimes right at all. An NFL quarterback, that's

861
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: what they do. That that's supposed to be easy. And

862
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: there's some things that are supposed to be easy for

863
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: Blake and they're not easy. A stick route, a simple

864
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: stick route. The interception at Milano had the linebacker for

865
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills that went off the hands of Keelan Cole.

866
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: It's a stick route on the number. How hard is

867
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,919
Speaker 1: it for a quarterback in the NFL to drop back

868
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: and throw a ball at a location in a timely

869
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 1: fashion and accurately with an uninstructive pocket and an uninstructive

870
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: view that that should be easy, but for Blake it

871
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 1: hasn't been. And uh so you hope that Cody Kessler

872
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: can make that play the slant route two weeks ago

873
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: against the Pittsburgh Steeler where Blake than then uncorked. We

874
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: think that maybe Code Kesler can make that. So so

875
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Cody Keussler is going to be

876
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: dramatically better, but you hope, I think, and what their

877
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: hope is is that Cody Kessler can make some of

878
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: those easy plays and at least make it better and

879
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 1: give themselves a better opportunity at winning and uh and

880
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: hopefully he has components around him that don't start to

881
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: fall more by the wayside, because when you're losing and

882
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: you're not playing for quote unquote anything, sometimes injuries take

883
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: guys out of the lineup quicker than they should, Guys

884
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 1: who are nagging all of a sudden, if they don't

885
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: work too hard to get back, they end up on

886
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: the reserve. That's that is December for a team that's

887
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: not contending. Um, this just happened. So information decisions, it's

888
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: all outside of our purveyance, But gut reaction is Blake

889
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: boils done in Jacksonville. Yes, it feels that way to me.

890
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: For whatever a feeling is worth that they've got to

891
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: move on and they've got to You can't compete with

892
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: the young quarterbacks in this game and the way that

893
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: they're throwing the ball with him, that you must go

894
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: and get one of those guys. And it may feel

895
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: like a step back, but if you don't, you'll be

896
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: years behind the Patrick Mahomes and the Deshaun Watson's of

897
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: the world. Well, the young quarterbacks, they're slinging it all

898
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: over the field. Well with with Blake. Here's the thing.

899
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: You benched him one time in the preseason, which was

900
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: last year, and it worked. You pulled him out of

901
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: a game this year. You now have benched him this year.

902
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: You have your now on your fourth play caller with

903
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles. Okay, at some point you need to realize that, hey,

904
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: three offensive coordinations now on the fourth play caller, that

905
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: maybe it's not the play caller, or maybe it's not

906
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: the coaching, maybe it's the one that's being coached. So

907
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: I think that realization probably is hit. And I think

908
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: the disappointing thing is is that coming off of and

909
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: hindsight is always perfect here and we all understand that,

910
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: but at the end of only sixteen, with the opportunity

911
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 1: to evaluate this roster and evaluate blake portals, you had

912
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: an opportunity there to say, Okay, you know what, maybe

913
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 1: maybe we should take a look at improving that position,

914
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 1: but you kind of doubled down. I was just about

915
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: to use that very phrase and you dropped that fourth overall.

916
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: And then you've really doubled down again with the signing

917
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: of Norwell when you and and I'm like, I know

918
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: it's hindsight, but you could say, we could have Deshaun Watson,

919
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: we could have Patrick Mahomes, and so it's gonna be

920
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: a very popular refrain in the offseason. And and can

921
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: you pass on the next generation of those guys there there?

922
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: So you can't, you can't anymore. And you you missed

923
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: that opportunity one time. And I'm not saying that Deshaun

924
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: Watson and Patrick Mahomes are gonna be Hall of Fame

925
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: quarterbacks or generational quarterbacks or franchise type guys. But right

926
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: now it looks like they are winning. Yeah, they are.

927
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: Looks like they are. And we all have seen, you know,

928
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 1: people are looking at the draft next year and they're saying, well,

929
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: there's you know, there's only one guy and he's a

930
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: junior and has but there are more guys. And if

931
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: if you're studying and you talk to people, the guy Duke,

932
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 1: the guy at West Virginia and it's too early to

933
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: start analyzing this, but if those guys climbed like Carson

934
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: went Stead a few years ago coming out of North

935
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: Dakota State, if those guys start to climb and you're

936
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: in the top ten, you, in my way of thinking,

937
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 1: you have to be willing to take the opportunity to

938
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: move into a different era of footage. Yeah, and took

939
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: to kind of make the argument on the other side

940
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: because you know, I'm not saying that to criticize the

941
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: Jaguars organization as far as Dave Caldwell and Tom going forward,

942
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,720
Speaker 1: because I understand that. Look, they had a belief that, Okay,

943
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: we could put a lot of energy and resources on

944
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball, and we could surround Blake.

945
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: He can be serviceable. We can surround him. That allows

946
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: us to spend more money on defense, and then with

947
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: four netlas get a stronger run game. We can make

948
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: him Blake better because we're going back to fifteen. There

949
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,760
Speaker 1: were some things about Blake we loved, we love. We're like, wow,

950
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: you know how many touchdown passes do you throw? Like

951
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: Tom Brady asked so. And then again this year with

952
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: with the signing of Norwell. Look, he just came off

953
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: of an a FC championship game. Don't understand why they

954
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: did it. So I get it, I get it, But

955
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it didn't work, and

956
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: you can't focus on that anymore. You've got to find

957
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 1: a plan forward, and that's where they are right now,

958
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: it's time to move on. Just a couple of thoughts

959
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 1: before we let you go, because they know you're headed

960
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: to do radio defense. It sure seems is if you're

961
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: going to find a way to win a game here

962
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: in the last five weeks, you're gonna have to lean

963
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: on those. It's got to be the side of the

964
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: ball that that makes it happen. Do you have any

965
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: sense that that's coming based on what you've seen in reason,

966
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: they're capable. They're capable. Look there, that's that's a very

967
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: talented unit. I feel like we've said that so much

968
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: and they've let us it is. We're saying it a lot,

969
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: and we're saying it more than we're saying because you

970
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 1: know what we want to be saying. Boy, they're a

971
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: really good unit, and they're are pretty good. I mean,

972
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: don't get it, don't they're they're good, Ben Roethlisberger. In

973
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: the first three quarters, we would have said the exact

974
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: same thing. But the the explosive plays that they're giving up.

975
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 1: I think Doug made a great point yesterday when he

976
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: talked about the explosive plays and that the explosive plays,

977
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 1: if you look at it from a number standpoint, they're

978
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 1: not very high. In fact, one of the better teams

979
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 1: in the league a given up explosive plays. But the

980
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: problem is that the explosive plays the Jaguars are given

981
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,720
Speaker 1: up our seventy five yards and sixty yarders and whatever

982
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: else they've been. I mean, they're big ones. So that

983
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: has to stop. The mental errors have to stop, and

984
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: that's I think the disappointing thing is that a lot

985
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 1: of those explosive plays have been a result of of

986
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 1: a mental error. Which that's not winning football. Mental errors.

987
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: That's not the way you're supposed to win games. Get

988
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: physically beat fine, but not not a mill error. That's

989
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,399
Speaker 1: not the way. That's too easy for an opponent, way

990
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: too easy. Final thought, how do you create an air

991
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,399
Speaker 1: of accountability if you're Doug Marone in that locker room,

992
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: because we all know even I'll give you a great example.

993
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 1: Ronnie Harrison, young talented player. I know they think he's

994
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: got a very bright future. They pull him off every

995
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: once in a while and say, hey, you got to

996
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: settle down your way too out on the edge here,

997
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna find yourself with the fifteen yard penalty. You

998
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 1: gotta back off. He kind of follows the lead of

999
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: a unique or a televin to play right on the edge. Um,

1000
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: how do you how do you create the sense of

1001
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: we've gotta play more discipline, We've got to be more disciplined.

1002
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 1: If you're Doug, I think that is that is the

1003
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: number one priority in the off season is to re

1004
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: establish that. And it's not gonna be easy because here's

1005
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: the reality. Jalen Ramsey, he likes to talk a lot,

1006
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: and I think he disrespects the game when he does that.

1007
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 1: I think he disrespects certainly disrespects other players in the

1008
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: National Football League, and I think it it's it sends

1009
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: a bad message to the team when you do that,

1010
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: because he talks in the off season and you have

1011
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: players that talk on the field too much. I see

1012
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: Telvin Smith talking trash on the field much. Look, I

1013
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: understand that that that can be part of the game,

1014
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,760
Speaker 1: and it's part of the verbal gel steam that happens.

1015
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: But I just remember going back to the Kansas City

1016
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,720
Speaker 1: game and Jaguars are down by three scores and Telvin

1017
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: Smith is talking junk to the Kanna c Chief sideline,

1018
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 1: and I'm going, wait a minute, if you're on the

1019
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: Kansas City sideline here going to come back to the

1020
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: huddle because you know what, look at the scoreboard. Hey,

1021
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 1: how about two weeks later when when the Cowboys blow

1022
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: the doors off of this team and score forty points

1023
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: and Talvin comes in and says, y'all, cam panic, I'm

1024
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: not I know what this team is. I thought, whoa

1025
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: your leader? Team is on his way to losing seven

1026
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 1: in a row. You're a leader. You have to come

1027
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: in with a little more mental discipline than to stand there.

1028
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: And I think that's a problem, Brian. I mean we're

1029
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: talking about you know, Jalen Telvin, your leaders. You're highly

1030
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: paid ladies, you know, and those are the guys that

1031
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: you want them to be. Uh. I hate to keep

1032
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: saying this, but that's the that you want. Clay's Campbell's

1033
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the guy that is a pro and

1034
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 1: and he needs to do. You have to need to

1035
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: have more of those types. And Leonard Fournette suspended last

1036
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: year by the team, this year suspended by the league.

1037
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: I mean, come on here for net where's the sea.

1038
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: There's don see that's different. I think you need I

1039
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: think Cassie needs to be taken off me as if

1040
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: I'm a player in that locker room. Got to come

1041
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: from them, Doug said, And and I kind of don't

1042
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: know about that. I mean, because you know what, if

1043
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: you're the head coach and you're if you're leader of

1044
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: the football team, maybe you grab Calais and say lead

1045
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: this movement. I don't. I don't think you put it

1046
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: on another player. I think you do. I'll just I

1047
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,720
Speaker 1: want to say one thing for Jalen because the last

1048
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: since the the Cults game, he has stood and done

1049
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: for remarkable for him media conferences where he has owned it,

1050
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: explained it, and been willing to answer all the questions

1051
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: as opposed to the angry, sullen uh pouting Jalen that

1052
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: we have seen at times. I think maybe someone has

1053
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: gotten through to him in a small way. And I

1054
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: was impressed with him in the locker room in Indianapolis.

1055
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: Once again, let me say this about out jail. And

1056
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if he necessarily owned it the Indianapolis stuff, No,

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Speaker 1: not that. After that, yeah, I think he I think

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Speaker 1: then you have an opportunity at greatness. If you have

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Speaker 1: be the worst thing that you could have. You hope

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Speaker 1: for the first you hope. You gotta work for that

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Speaker 1: now and then they are so Jeff, thanks so much.

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Speaker 1: When you got radio to go, do we appreciate you

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Speaker 1: have a great Tuesday. Thank you. All right, that's Jeff Logerman.

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Speaker 1: to be a couple of headlines for you though, to

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Speaker 1: wrap up our show today, including a really good one

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Speaker 1: from Houston, where last night J J. Watt dedicated the

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Speaker 1: victory over the Tennessee Titans to Bob McNair, the owner

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Speaker 1: who passed earlier this week. I guess last week. Now

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Speaker 1: they played amazing grace. The city of Houston stood and

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Speaker 1: honored him. Afterwards. The Texans presented a game ball to

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Speaker 1: their chairman, who was his son Cal Now Um, Bob

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Speaker 1: McNary a well respected owner among owners and a guy

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Speaker 1: the people in Houston, Uh, well, they revere him because

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Speaker 1: he brought football back in a big, big way. And

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Speaker 1: you heard Sean Kan say very kind words about him

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Speaker 1: last week as well. Absolutely Moving to Cincinnati, where Andy Dalton,

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Speaker 1: the longtime starting quarterback, is on his way to injured

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Speaker 1: reserve with a thumb injury. He's a guy whose future

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Speaker 1: maybe in doubt and since um, he hasn't missed a

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Speaker 1: game since. But the Bengals started strong at four and

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Speaker 1: one and sent to fall into one in five. Jeff Driscoll,

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Speaker 1: the former Gator, is going to get the start. Um

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Speaker 1: Dalton might be one of those bridge quarterbacks for teams

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Speaker 1: looking for quarterbacks next year. Uh, he's got two years

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Speaker 1: left on a nineties six million dollar deal and they

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Speaker 1: may want to move on. In Cincinnati, h Dalton has

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Speaker 1: taken the Bengals to the playoffs but never won a

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Speaker 1: playoff game and final. We told you yesterday about Philip

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Speaker 1: Rivers record setting day passes twenty five in a row.

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Speaker 1: Last night on no Westwood One, on the radio broadcast

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Speaker 1: of Monday Night Football, Tom Brady does an interview every week,

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Speaker 1: and uh, he went on and on and on about

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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers. Uh said, he watches other games, but Philip

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Speaker 1: Rivers playing out in Los Angeles gets overlooked. The Chargers

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Speaker 1: are eight and three and he is playing at a

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Speaker 1: huge level. And I spend a lot of time last

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Speaker 1: night talking about Philip Rivers. Great to see those guys

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Speaker 1: watching each other. You remember, well, you might not remember,

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Speaker 1: but back in the middle part of two thousand, in

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Speaker 1: that decade, I don't know what you call it, Um,

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Speaker 1: you had Peyton and Tom Brady squaring off admiring each

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Speaker 1: other from a distance and squaring off in big games.

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Speaker 1: I got the feeling last night that he thinks that

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Speaker 1: that Chargers team is going to be still standing at

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Speaker 1: the end of this thing, and it could be Brady

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Speaker 1: versus Rivers And what a matchup that one sure talk

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Speaker 1: about earlier with Jeff about having those guys in the

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Speaker 1: locker room supporting other players in the league. That's what

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Speaker 1: you want, you guys like Clais Campbell and that absolutely

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Speaker 1: all right. Uh, interesting day yesterday, Yeah, tomorrow figures to

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Speaker 1: be as well. John Osier joins us tomorrow morning on

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Speaker 1: the show. We'll have big things for you. We'll have

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Speaker 1: agreed to disagree. We'll have ozone snapshot. Hey, Joe comes along,

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Speaker 1: as he does every Wednesday. He says, I might even

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Speaker 1: know the song this week. We'll find out. We'll find out.

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Speaker 1: So for Rashlyn and Jeff, for Joe and Stone Cold

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Speaker 1: in the other room. We'll sign off on a Tuesday morning.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us for Jacks Drive Time. Don't forget

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