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Speaker 1: Happy Tuesday before Turkey Day people, Kevin Polar is back

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Speaker 1: see you, man. We're excited for the next couple of days. Dude,

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Speaker 1: just before the show started, so let's get to it.

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Speaker 2: Let's charge it about.

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Speaker 1: Sonny Gray moving over from the Cardinals to the Red Sox,

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Speaker 1: and the Cardinals are going to cover about half of

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Speaker 1: what he's due for twenty twenty six. That's twenty million dollars.

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Speaker 1: They're also going to receive Brandon Clark, who is a

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Speaker 1: left handed pitching prospect from the Sox system, and Richard

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Speaker 1: Fitz who made some starts last year for Boston. They

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Speaker 1: both go over to Saint Louis. The Red Sox are

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Speaker 1: on the hook for twenty one million dollars for twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty six. There's some complications with how the salary works

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Speaker 1: for twenty six and the buyouts and all that, But

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Speaker 1: all you need to know is that this is a

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Speaker 1: starter Cratz that the Red Sox will have for one

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Speaker 1: year and twenty one million dollars. They were looking for

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Speaker 1: someone that can be a playoff starter. Do you feel

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Speaker 1: like that was accomplished?

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Speaker 2: Man, he is right on that fringe. I mean he didn't. Honestly,

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Speaker 2: they said they're looking for ones and twos. They're looking

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Speaker 2: for somebody to slot in behind Crochet. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I can say he's a playoff starter.

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Speaker 2: I just feel like, can he start games in the playoffs?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: His track record of not going past the fifth inning

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Speaker 2: makes me leary, makes me feel like, man, you got

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Speaker 2: to have an absolutely banger bullpen. What's the Red Sox

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Speaker 2: do to say? Yes, we trust him to be a

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Speaker 2: playoff starter. But I think I think he's I think

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Speaker 2: he's got the ability to. I don't know that that

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Speaker 2: length is going to necessarily bode well for the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: but maybe, Hey, nobody goes over five innings, you know,

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Speaker 2: you go right to your garret windlocks, your Eromus Chatman's

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Speaker 2: and the game's over.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Sonny, I think the name may be

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Speaker 3: a little sexier than the guy. But I think you

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Speaker 3: got to believe in Andrew Bailey over there and what

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Speaker 3: he's been able to do with some some pitchers. And

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Speaker 3: I don't think they're going out and spending this much

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Speaker 3: money if they don't believe that he is a number two.

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Speaker 3: I think you got to believe in the process, the

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Speaker 3: people that they have in place, you know, what they

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Speaker 3: believe Sonny can kind of, you know, either turn back

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Speaker 3: to or turn into I mean I was looking at

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Speaker 3: his numbers today. They're not overly impressive, but he did

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Speaker 3: strike out over two hundred guys. You know, maybe changing

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Speaker 3: the pitch our arsenal a little bit, you know, pitching

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Speaker 3: behind a Garrett Crow may help him.

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Speaker 2: I just like that.

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Speaker 3: It's two Tennessee boys at the top of the food

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I like that. I like Vanderbilt. You know,

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Speaker 2: you have Sonny Gray has something that not a lot

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Speaker 2: I don't know how this even works for pitchers later

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Speaker 2: in the career. He's really athletic. He is super that

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Speaker 2: We're talking about it in our production meeting, Like this

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Speaker 2: dude can sling the football and then people will be like, oh,

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Speaker 2: what does that matter. You have to be able to change,

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Speaker 2: You have to be able to make adjustments. And if

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Speaker 2: small market type of picture, But his pitch usage has

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Speaker 2: changed significantly throughout his career, and I think it's him

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Speaker 2: to be. He used to be like almost equal sinker slider.

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Speaker 2: He'd mix that slider into a cutter, and then he

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Speaker 2: is one of his more predominant pitches. Like, it's something

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Speaker 2: he can spin the ball, but he can really manipulate

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Speaker 2: it and change it. And I think that's just it's

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Speaker 2: a testament to his athleticism. So if there's something and

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Speaker 2: Andrew Bailey says, hey, you know what, try this, Hey,

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Speaker 2: you know what, do this physically, he's a guy that

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Speaker 1: This is a much higher floor than the same price

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Speaker 1: they paid for Walker Buehler last year on a one

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Speaker 1: year deal around the same number, right, This is a

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Speaker 1: much higher floor. I think the floor for Sonny Gray

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Speaker 1: is what a number three maybe a number four starting

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Speaker 1: pitcher if you do think he's going to decline. This

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Speaker 1: past season of four to eighty RA, he made thirty

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Speaker 1: two starts, very healthy year for him. Fielding independent pitching

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Speaker 1: was much lower expected RA lower, right, so some of

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Speaker 1: the results maybe didn't go his way. Maybe look at

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Speaker 1: the defense, not that it's necessarily going to be better

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Speaker 1: over in Boston, the work to do to improve that.

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Speaker 1: But the strikeout to walk ratio was literally the best

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Speaker 1: mean he's still getting elite results on some of those pitches,

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Speaker 1: curveball and sweeper in particular. So there's a lot to

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Speaker 1: like here and KP it's only for one year. Sonny

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Speaker 1: does have a little bit of a track record of

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Speaker 1: struggle in a big market. That is a factor. That

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Speaker 1: was the one part where I looked initially and said, oh, really,

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Speaker 1: he's waving his no trade clause for Boston. But he

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Speaker 1: wanted to be on the East Coast to be close

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Speaker 1: to pitch for a contender, and he probably learned from

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Speaker 1: his teammate now former team in Nolan Arnato that if

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Speaker 1: you're too picky and you say no early on, you

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Speaker 1: might end up in Saint Louis next year on a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I love the durability aspect at the

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Speaker 3: very least. Like you said, if the floor is getting

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Speaker 3: thirty two starts at a four ear ra, it's a

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Speaker 3: very valuable pitcher to have. And you weren't here last time.

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Speaker 3: I was on Scott But me and Cratsey went back

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Speaker 3: and forth about there's no such thing as a one bad,

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Speaker 3: one year deal. There is a price you teams are

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Speaker 3: willing to go to, and apparently for the Red Sox,

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Speaker 3: twenty one million is not too much for them to

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Speaker 3: go to for a one year deal. So hopefully Sonny

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Speaker 3: Crassey mentioned, the athleticism, They can, you know, manipulate some

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Speaker 3: things with him a little bit, you know, maybe get

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's chance Chapman. Chapman lives. Chapman lives

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Speaker 2: because he's got that country accent. That's just a narrative.

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Speaker 2: I was there, I saw it. It was a contradiction

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Speaker 2: of pitch usage. Larry Rothschild was the pitching coach and

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Speaker 2: I've said his on before and it's definitely been something

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Speaker 2: of what was considered as slider registers more as a curveball.

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Speaker 2: catch Sonny Gray in Oakland. He's like, it was it

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Speaker 2: was a guessing game, because there would be times where

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Speaker 2: And so when he goes over to New York, they

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Speaker 2: kind of took away some of that, like, hey, I

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Speaker 2: I want to throw the way I want to throw,

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Speaker 2: and it was more of like a strict like this

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Speaker 2: And if you go look at his usage while he

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Speaker 2: quick to play the narrative of ooh, big market. The

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Speaker 1: Hey, we did get more information on that film Aton

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know much about their pitching development and department,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what he said.

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Speaker 1: That's what he said.

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Speaker 2: That's what he said.

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Speaker 1: That's what he said. We just love how we get

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Speaker 1: I don't know, O KP. If the Yankees don't know

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Speaker 3: If that's truly the case, prove it. Just open the books,

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Speaker 3: you know, and then I think players would have maybe

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Speaker 3: I don't want to say players would act a little

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Speaker 3: bit differently, but I think maybe there would be a

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Speaker 3: little bit empathy or sympathy when a player is like

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Speaker 3: trying to demand X amount in a contract and they're like, man,

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Speaker 3: these teams actually are losing money every year. Like you,

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Speaker 3: maybe you would have a little bit of a you

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Speaker 3: have a little bit of better feel for it. But

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Speaker 3: right now, all we know is the evaluation of a franchise,

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Speaker 3: and we know the Yankees are the only sports franchise

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Speaker 3: valued over eight billion dollars and that increases every year.

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Speaker 3: So until they open up the books and improve it,

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Speaker 3: I don't want to hear about it.

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Speaker 1: And some people say, well, just because the team's worth

447
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Speaker 1: this doesn't mean that they have that money available now. Okay, fine, cool,

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Speaker 1: but again, they are still profitable when you own a

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Speaker 1: company or whatever, and they give out dividends like that's

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Speaker 1: a thing. Sure can they just dip into the eight

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Speaker 1: billion dollars at any point that they want that they're worth?

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Speaker 1: I mean kind of with loans but not completely get it.

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Speaker 1: But we don't think the Yankees are making money on

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Speaker 1: a year to year basis. Here's one note from the article,

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Speaker 1: how profitable are the Yankees of breakdown? Using publicly available data,

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Speaker 1: Their revenue in twenty twenty four per Forbes seven hundred

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Speaker 1: twenty eight million per CNBC, which does these kind of

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Speaker 1: figures as well, seven h five. So let's say they're

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Speaker 1: seven to seventeen. If we're averaging those two, their player

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Speaker 1: payroll in twenty twenty four was three hundred and sixteen

461
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Speaker 1: million dollars minus CBT tax sixty three million dollars. Hold on,

462
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Speaker 1: we're still missing hundreds of millions of dollars unaccounted for.

463
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Speaker 1: Kratz help me out here, I get it. Super nice facilities,

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Speaker 1: many employees, blah blah blah, they're not worth hundreds of

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Speaker 1: millions of dollars per year.

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Speaker 2: They pay one hundred million dollars every year to the

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Speaker 2: City of New York for the bond on the stadium,

468
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Speaker 2: so one hundred and more million comes off of that. Also,

469
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Speaker 2: like New York City loves the fact that the Yankees

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Speaker 2: are there, there's commerce that happens, but it's not a

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Speaker 2: little less than that.

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Speaker 1: By the way, it's I think it's in the eighties,

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Speaker 1: but okay, it's.

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Speaker 2: In the eighties. Okay, the number I had read was

475
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Speaker 2: one hundred million. But either way, that's every year. That's

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Speaker 2: their mortgage on the house that Aaron Judges built. But

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Speaker 2: I've seen the inside of Yankee Stadium, the organization, the facilities,

478
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Speaker 2: the coaches that they continue to add, the performance coaches

479
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Speaker 2: that they continue to add, and I know they get

480
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Speaker 2: the best that are out there. They went out and

481
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Speaker 2: they got Eric Cressey. I don't know that Eric, you know,

482
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Speaker 2: really says he's part of the Yankees, but he is

483
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Speaker 2: a consultant. He sets up a lot of what they do.

484
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Speaker 2: They have more strength coaches at each at each stop.

485
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Speaker 2: They have more video guys, they have more analysts, they

486
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Speaker 2: have all that stuff. Why do they have all that

487
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Speaker 2: because they want to be the best and they feel

488
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Speaker 2: like there's a value in that. I promise you that

489
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Speaker 2: number doesn't get all the way up to the seven

490
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Speaker 2: under and whatever million you think they made in revenue

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Speaker 2: last year. But we're showing we're looking at a picture

492
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Speaker 2: of how right now. How is not like George, don't

493
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Speaker 2: expect them to be like George George owned the Yankees.

494
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Speaker 2: George answered to nobody how answers to a group of

495
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Speaker 2: ownership that Now, let's say they make one hundred million

496
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Speaker 2: dollars and there's x amount of people that's one hundred

497
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Speaker 2: million divided by x, and everyone's like, wait a minute,

498
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Speaker 2: I own part of the Yankees. Why am I not

499
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Speaker 2: getting more and more and more and more. Easiest way

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Speaker 2: to suffice and make those people happy, We'll try to

501
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Speaker 2: cut our spending. Well, what's the way that you cut

502
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Speaker 2: your spending payroll? Well, why do four of the nine

503
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Speaker 2: owners for the Yankees not want to increase payroll? Because

504
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Speaker 2: they don't care about winning as much as some of

505
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Speaker 2: the other owners. All they care about is what kind

506
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Speaker 2: of check they're getting in their wallet each year, each month, however,

507
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Speaker 2: they're paid out. So it's not not just how's the

508
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Speaker 2: forward facing person? And yes, the Yankees are profitable. All

509
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Speaker 2: of these teams are profitable. If they weren't, they would

510
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Speaker 2: be selling them.

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Speaker 1: David Ripkin, who's a big FT fan and often puts

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Speaker 1: things in cool perspective on Twitter, said, so, Hal Steinberner's

513
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Speaker 1: not one hundred percent or the Yankees, He's general partner,

514
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Speaker 1: he has other owners to answer for. He was summarizing

515
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Speaker 1: some of the other quotes from him during his public

516
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Speaker 1: outcry for more money. He said, the mistakes in summer

517
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Speaker 1: Swoon need to stop. He said last year's failure was

518
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Speaker 1: on the players. He said he'd like a lower payroll

519
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Speaker 1: to appease certain investors, but also it doesn't necessarily happen.

520
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Speaker 1: He said, payroll decisions can change quickly with proposals, and

521
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Speaker 1: of course mentioned the salary cap to appease his owner fraternity.

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Speaker 1: People forget, how is one of the owners who pushes

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Speaker 1: to avoid work stoppages. And I give him a lot

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Speaker 1: of credit for that, But you got to be in

525
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Speaker 1: the room and agree with your brethren. Anyway, it sounds

526
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Speaker 1: like from a payroll perspective, the team's going to be

527
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Speaker 1: in a similar range as usual. That's the demand of Yanks.

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Speaker 1: Krat you know about it, KP, you know about it.

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Speaker 1: Yankee fans want to see the team spend way more

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Speaker 1: than everyone else, and they're just not going to do

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Speaker 1: that anymore. And the thing I will give on house

532
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Speaker 1: side is they spend a lot. They put the team

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Speaker 1: in a position both player payroll and resources wise. In general,

534
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Speaker 1: with the organization to be able to compete, and right

535
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Speaker 1: now they're getting embarrassed in my mind by the Dodgers,

536
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Speaker 1: because I think they've become the Evil Empire, just a

537
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Speaker 1: more likable version, because it's hard to dislike some of

538
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Speaker 1: the players on that team. Admittedly, I did get a

539
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Speaker 1: little bit distracted in the chat the last couple of minutes.

540
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 1: Somebody was off the rails and got time out. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: bet MGF futures, n L Pennant, Phillies what oh? I

542
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: just left Phillies at plus five hundred currently that is

543
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Speaker 1: second best in the National League in terms of odds.

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Speaker 1: What do we think, gentlemen.

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Speaker 3: I don't see why not. I mean Phillies depending on

546
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Speaker 3: what they do this offseason. But the Phillies is a

547
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Speaker 3: pretty darn good team, you know, like Crassy mentioned, they

548
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Speaker 3: took the defending back to back World Series champs to

549
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Speaker 3: you know, a fourth game, and they were all really close.

550
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Speaker 3: They just the bullpen kind of crumbled at the end.

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Speaker 2: I don't think this number moves in the way of

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Speaker 2: I don't think it goes down at all based on

553
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Speaker 2: the moves that they make. I don't think the Phillies

554
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 2: are going to be in on Kyle Tucker and Bregman

555
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 2: and bring back Schwarbert. So I don't think this number

556
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 2: moves based on where they have the Dodgers at. I

557
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Speaker 2: think the Dodgers at like plus one sixty or plus

558
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Speaker 2: one ninety, So I wait to see where where their

559
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 2: off season goes. But if it's at plus five hundred

560
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Speaker 2: to start the season, I'm taking it.

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Speaker 1: I think the Dodgers would have beat them anyway, but

562
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Speaker 1: it would have been nice to see a seven gamer.

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Speaker 3: It is what it is, and what if they had

564
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Speaker 3: a healthy What if they had a healthy Zach Wheeler? Though?

565
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Speaker 3: Does that change anything for you too?

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Speaker 2: Maybe in a seven game series, but not like not

567
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Speaker 2: in that series, Like you could not have gotten more

568
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Speaker 2: out of their starting pitching than what they did, like

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Speaker 2: Aaron Nola gave them one time through the lineup piggybacked

570
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Speaker 2: with Rangers Suarez, like they used the starting pitching to perfection.

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Speaker 1: Yep, that's why you got to figure out what the

572
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Speaker 1: problem is. Why is the core getting pitched you in

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584
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Speaker 1: about the Padres for a minute. Here they're hiring Randy

585
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Speaker 1: Nor and Steven Susan junior as bench coach and hitting coach.

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Speaker 1: This according to Dennis lenn who covers the Padres. He said,

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Speaker 1: both of them spend time with Craig Stammon in the

588
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Speaker 1: Nationals organization. So Stammond's bringing over some of his friends.

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Speaker 1: Did either of you either spend time with Nor or

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Speaker 1: play I mean against for sure SUSA, but not with.

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Speaker 3: No. I never never crossed paths with him, just played

592
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Speaker 3: against him. But I love the hire. I mean I

593
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Speaker 3: saw some people talking about, like why would you want

594
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Speaker 3: to learn hitting from Steven susan junior. Well, that guy

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Speaker 3: he has way more bats in the big leagues than

596
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Speaker 3: you whoever made that comment about him. Two, he's been

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Speaker 3: in the box. And three, a lot of people when

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Speaker 3: they get done playing, they spend their kind of second

599
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Speaker 3: life trying to understand why wasn't I a better hitter?

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Speaker 3: You know, I go through moments like that where I'm like, man,

601
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Speaker 3: I wish I would have done this, this, this, and

602
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 3: I go down the rabbit hole and I watch all

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Speaker 3: these hitting videos and I'm like, man, you know, but

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Speaker 3: you know, Steven SEUs is a guy who's been in

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Speaker 3: the box, he played at the big leagues. He's better

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Speaker 3: than one hundred percent of you people out there who

607
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Speaker 3: are making these comments that saying why would you want

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Speaker 3: to learn from him? And he's probably sent his second

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Speaker 3: act of his life studying the art of hitting.

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Speaker 1: Hey Over on Fangrafts, there was a late season conversation

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Speaker 1: with Bubba Chandler posted and David Larela said, what have

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Speaker 1: you learned since getting called up from Triple A. Bubba

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Speaker 1: Chandler's answer quote, I don't want to say the game

614
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Speaker 1: is harder, but it's definitely a lot more thinking. Pitch

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Speaker 1: to pitch thinking goes into it. Something I've learned is

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Speaker 1: that at each level you go up, the less and

617
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Speaker 1: less mistakes you can make up. Here, I've made a

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Speaker 1: couple of mistake pitches that were hit pretty hard, where

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Speaker 1: as in Triple A they might have gotten fouled off.

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Speaker 1: So it's kind of how many mistakes can I limit

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Speaker 1: myself to in a game. They're going to happen, but

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Speaker 1: when are they going to happen. Are they going to

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Speaker 1: happen with Kais on base? Are they going to happen

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Speaker 1: with no one on base? Stuff like that. This is

625
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Speaker 1: one of the best pitching prospects in the game who

626
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Speaker 1: came up late in the season for Pittsburgh. They dumbly

627
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Speaker 1: had him as a reliever for a starter to or

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Speaker 1: for an appearance or two, and then decided to be

629
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Speaker 1: like everyone else. But crats are thoughts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, every level presents its challenges, and to me, maybe

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Speaker 2: kp things differently, but there's no bigger a jump than

632
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Speaker 2: facing Triple A whatever Triple A hitters facing Triple A

633
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Speaker 2: pictures or Triple A pictures facing Triple A hitters to

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Speaker 2: big leagues, And it is really just the amount of

635
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Speaker 2: mistakes you get away with the fact that they don't

636
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Speaker 2: chase as far out of the zone and the fact

637
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Speaker 2: that you have to be able to get outs in

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Speaker 2: the zone. So I love that he said it. I

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Speaker 2: hate that the Pirates put him in the situation they

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Speaker 2: did when they called him up. That was so brutal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a J and Krats were freaking out KP when

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Speaker 1: we saw that.

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Speaker 3: No, he's stating the obvious. I mean, it's nice. It's

644
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Speaker 3: refreshing to hear someone pretend like the game isn't hard,

645
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 3: because the game is really hard. And like Kratzy said,

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Speaker 3: every love you go up, the game offers different challenges.

647
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 3: The game gets even more difficult the players get better.

648
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 3: The amount of mistakes that you get away with from

649
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 3: a pitcher become less, the amount of mistakes you see

650
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 3: as a hitter become less frequent. The ones that survive

651
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 3: this game are the ones that are able to not

652
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 3: miss those mistakes as a hitter and the ones that

653
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 3: are able to kind of eliminate those mistakes from a

654
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Speaker 3: pitching standpoint. The only argument I'd make the Crats is

655
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Speaker 3: I think the biggest adjustment I ever had to make

656
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 3: was going from D two Bowl to professional baseball and

657
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 3: you probably had a similar experience. That was the biggest

658
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Speaker 3: jump for me.

659
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Speaker 2: Yeah, D three to facing a Latin number three prospect

660
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 2: in medicine hat with wood, Yeah, you know what that was.

661
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 2: That was a bigger adjustment. You're right, you're right, but

662
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 2: I hit a danger first at Batkrats.

663
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Speaker 1: off matching holiday prints with your person. You can't beat that. First,

681
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Speaker 1: and most importantly, Shoho Tani is officially back in the

682
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: World Baseball Classic for Team Japan, the defending champs from

683
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: a few years ago. He made the announcement official on Instagram. Second,

684
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 1: and I think very important as well for some fans

685
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: that looked quickly at his initial post, he is not retiring.

686
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: When you post an image of yourself and thank you fans,

687
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: it could get confusing, especially for people who do not

688
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: like to read, and that is a large percentage of

689
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: the social media population. So whoever put this together via

690
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: post and is running show Hey's social media channel, you

691
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: did give everyone or some people a good scare and

692
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: it helped actually with engagement and activity. And it went

693
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: from normal viral KP with sho Hey making this announcement

694
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: to a little extra virality that I do not think

695
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: was planned. I think someone was just putting together some

696
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 1: really pretty pictures and they didn't know that it could

697
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: appear as if sho Hey was announcing something weird and

698
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: not expected, like WBC.

699
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 3: Or did they. I feel like whatever show Hay touches

700
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 3: kind of turns the gold. It wouldn't surprise me if

701
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 3: this was by design, because the obvious the WBC post great, Yeah,

702
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 3: we knew he was gonna play, like it's very great

703
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 3: for the WBC to have its best players, and obviously

704
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 3: players in other countries kind of salvate for the idea

705
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 3: of playing for their country, hoping the United players from

706
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 3: the United States and they are starting to get better

707
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 3: players Paul Skins, you know, Bobby with Junior Aaron Judge

708
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 3: committing is great for what the WBC is. But the

709
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 3: Dodgers post, Yeah, on first glance, it looks like, you know,

710
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 3: he's he retiring? Is he moving on?

711
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: Is he?

712
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 3: But I think everything Show Hey does turns the gold,

713
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 3: And it wouldn't surprise me if this was by design

714
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 3: to get just the most insane reactions and engagement on

715
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Speaker 3: you know, whatever social platforms he posted this on.

716
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Speaker 2: I mean, I might even use producers ladies' words. He

717
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: maybe show Hey knows what he's doing. Everybody, you know,

718
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 2: show he doesn't necessarily know, like, oh I didn't know

719
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 2: all the other stuff that was going on, And there's

720
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 2: a little bit of it's like, oh, maybe he's naive,

721
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 2: and so we don't think he actually trolls people. But

722
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 2: producer Lady pointed out that he kissed his dog when

723
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 2: he won the MVP and not his wife who was

724
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 2: sitting right next to him. He trolled. He trolled uh

725
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 2: Lordy Scouriel and after the home run when Lordi's put

726
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 2: his hands up like he did the exact troll. And

727
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 2: maybe right now he's trolling fans like him. Maybe him

728
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 2: and Tayo were like sitting back and he's like, you

729
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 2: know what, Tayo, I've seen retirement posts. I'm gonna make

730
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 2: it look like I'm retiring and see see if the

731
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 2: fans like he might like some sarcastic humor. So just

732
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 2: makes more it makes it makes show Hay more endearing

733
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 2: to me.

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Speaker 1: I agree, we love a little show Hey personality. So

735
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: if he was behind this, then I stand corrected, and

736
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 1: I thank you Show Hey for bringing us a little

737
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: spiciness to content that's usually pretty run of the mill.

738
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: We know that you love your country and you love competition,

739
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: and that he was going to be participating in the

740
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: World Baseball Classic, so we got it with a little

741
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 1: extra sauce to it. Okay, will shoe Otani be playing

742
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 1: with Tatsuya Ami, who I think is the top free

743
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: agent available coming over from Japan this offseason? Dice k

744
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: Mount Suzaka asked him whether he wants to join a

745
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: team like the Dodgers that can win the World Series

746
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: or a team that tries to beat them. The reply

747
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: from AMAI quote, I want to beat them, if I'm

748
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: being honest, Hey, let's go more from amay on wanting

749
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: to beat the Dodgers and sign elsewhere. Of course, playing

750
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: together with Atana Yamamoto and Rokie Suzaki sounds like it

751
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: could be fun. But winning the World Series by defeating

752
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: a team like that is something I feel would truly

753
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:57,760
Speaker 1: have value in my life. The Ultimate Underdog story starring

754
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: Tatsuya am I and I actually know I Seacrats picking

755
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: up his phone right now, and I know what the

756
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 1: call is KPE, So I'm not going to answer, and

757
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to pretend I promise you didn't script this.

758
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: I think that this is Tatsuya My's agent calling Tatsuya

759
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: and saying don't do that. Right now, you're kind of

760
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: ruling out a team. No, okay, are fine? I'll pick

761
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,280
Speaker 1: it up. Hello, it's.

762
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 2: This is Buster Posey. Could I speak to Tatsu.

763
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: My what's good? It's in my best hairstyle in the game,

764
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: and I'm not even in the game yet.

765
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 2: We hate the Dodgers too, so an offer will be

766
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 2: coming over shortly.

767
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: Okay, just make it, make it really nice, make it,

768
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: make it, you know, full of money. Because my agent

769
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: thinks that I'm kind of hurting my leverage with the Dodgers.

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00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: Can you do that for me? Buster, no messing around?

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00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: Oh heait, hold on, I'm gonna make this a three

772
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: way call.

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00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 3: Hey, this is Andrew Friedman. Whatever Buster is offering, we

774
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 3: have more, Mike.

775
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, Andrew, you lost Andrew Buster? Are you still there?

776
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: Did you hear that?

777
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 2: I heard it? But you've been spending for years and

778
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 2: my previous GM didn't go past one year with anybody.

779
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: So I have a ton of money in the chest

780
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:19,959
Speaker 2: and the ownership loves me. I control this city. We'll

781
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 2: take aim I thank you.

782
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: I love it. I want to see Tony Vaitello with

783
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 1: his intensity run through either a glass or brick wall.

784
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 1: If you send me that video plus match the offer

785
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: from Friedman, I'm in Okay.

786
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 2: Uh, buster hung up. He already said his last.

787
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 1: Bit done, beauty.

788
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, I just tell you what needs to be

789
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 3: said and that's it. You make the choice. Hey.

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00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: Brittany Gieroli put an article out that the Marlins and

791
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: Kyle Sowers had extension talks earlier this offseason, but that

792
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: the two sides were far apart. I read it, the

793
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: Marlins are thinking more along the lines of the Saddan

794
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 1: Rafaela eight year, fift fifty million. Of course, keeping in mind,

795
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: Rafaela didn't even have fifty days of service timest hours

796
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: definitely is way past that and was a four win

797
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: player for the Marlins this year twenty five homers. Oblique

798
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: strain ended, you know, his season about a month and

799
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: change early, but his camp is thinking more along the

800
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: lines of one hundred million dollars we can show. I

801
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: think we have one other tweet to show what one

802
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: MLB executive Burner account put out there. He said, projecting,

803
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: you know, some ARB seasons in the three years of

804
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: free agency thirty two to thirty Forks, he's older already

805
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: seven years, eighty seven million, So the burner said, even

806
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,720
Speaker 1: with aggressive our projections, camp asking for one hundred is aggressive,

807
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: eighty more logical. Actually, okay, Kratz fifty to one hundred.

808
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: The middle is seventy five eighty good done.

809
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 2: No, this is this is this guy's what he what

810
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 2: the adjustments he made playing every day in the big leagues.

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Speaker 2: I think he puts up another three and a half

812
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 2: war season. To me, I think I think that number.

813
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 2: I think that number grows. I would say, I would

814
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 2: say seventy five is too low. I think he's in

815
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 2: the eighty seven to ninety range. And I know the

816
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:16,720
Speaker 2: projections are not on there, but look, maybe all Star team,

817
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 2: he doesn't get hurt. All those numbers were only going

818
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 2: to be higher. I think he had a nine to

819
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 2: twelve ops, So I say a little higher. I'm glad

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00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 2: he's I'm glad he's holding now one hundreds. Probably too much,

821
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 2: but hey, you know what, shoot for the stars. He

822
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 2: hit the moon.

823
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 1: The Orioles weren't even finding a spot for HMKP. So

824
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: maybe I'm playing it a little bit safer here. But

825
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, if you think you're worth ninety to

826
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: one hundred and you can get them to this seventy

827
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: to eighty range, I would go for it.

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00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 3: I take your money. We can get your money. This

829
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 3: game's hard. You know, we were just on with you know,

830
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 3: one of the best to do it defensively. I thought

831
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 3: I was pretty good too. Year to year, so much changes.

832
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 3: This game's incredibly difficult. The difference between making seventy and

833
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 3: maybe eighty five million is not really going to change

834
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 3: your life. Go get your money when you can in

835
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 3: this game, because you're always one real injury away from

836
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 3: not making a lot of money in this game. You know,

837
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 3: I was never in that position. But this game's really hard,

838
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 3: so you know, maybe they find some middle ground there.

839
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Speaker 1: Have Again. On Wednesday, right before we get to the

840
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: big holiday break, KP will be on, Kratz will be on.

841
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: I'll be with you. We've got a big show planned.

842
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: Krats ats. What do you got a little read today?

843
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: Hopefully, hopefully these guys, because we had Ruben on, Hopefully

844
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 2: we can get these guys, you know, jumping into the

845
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 2: market here. I really feel like JT Realmuto will be

846
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 2: the first of all those of those like big time

847
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 2: guys that we talked about with the Phillies that will sign.

848
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 2: And I agree with Ruben, I think JT signs back.

849
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 2: I don't think they can, and I don't think they

850
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 2: can go without a starting pitcher on a world series content.

851
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 2: I mean starting catcher on a world series contending too.

852
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: Last words on the way out. For those of you

853
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: watching on TV, I'll remind you again tomorrow. Tomorrow is

854
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: your last chance on the current TV channels that you're

855
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: watching to see us. Otherwise, you can catch us for free, YouTube, podcast, etc.

856
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: Like we always do. And we'll have more announcements soon

857
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: on future TV streaming plans. We'll see everyone for a

858
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 1: live show on Wednesday.

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00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 2: Everybody's got YouTube, turn it on.