1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Let's get to our guest. Raki Prashad is with US 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: investment manager at Older Capital who joins from Mumbai. Rakied, 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: A Happy New Year to you, Thanks for being with us. 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: We've been talking so much on the program about the 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: weakness in the China economy as a result of the 6 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: COVID zero policy. There's been an enormous push and pull 7 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: on the part of the government. We've talked in the 8 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: last year about the number of lockdowns that have been 9 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: imposed and then the significant pivot away from from COVID zero. 10 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: But there is so much concern about the reliability of 11 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: the government now and a reconfiguration of supply chains is 12 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: part of the conversation. I'm wondering, from your point of 13 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: view in Mumbai, does India necessarily become the big, big beneficiary. 14 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: Good morning and happy New Year to all of you too. 15 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: So India, So China has been having these issues over 16 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: the past one year, and how what we've been seeing 17 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: in India, how businesses are navigating through those supply chain issues, uh, 18 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: have been remarkable. Actually, so investors have been watching this 19 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: over the past one year and going into this coming year, 20 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: I think China will probably be in a better situation 21 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: than it was last year. In fact, so the concern 22 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: around supply chain disruptions may probably ease out during the 23 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: second half of the year. Burrying that there's no other 24 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: global major upset that happens. But I believe India will 25 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: probably navigate through this situation UM better than last year. 26 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: Your inflation appears to have peaked in in the ear. 27 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: The RBA also seems rb I is near the end 28 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: of its tightening cycle. What are your expectations around this? Yeah, 29 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: I agree with you. Maybe rb I might do one 30 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: more just to be in sync with what the FED 31 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: might keep on during during the next few three or 32 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: four months. But uh, in general, people in India are 33 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: seeing that the rates have peaked for India. UM. Inflation 34 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: is also probably going to be more stabilized and slowly 35 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: come off as well during the year in India. So 36 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: from a from a rates perspective and an inflation perspective, 37 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: I think this year will not see too much of 38 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: a disruption UM. And that's all christon And so do 39 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: your clients. And as I understand, they are mostly high 40 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: net worth individuals and family office and private foundation clients 41 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: are they more apt to keep capital focused domestically right now, 42 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: given everything that we're describing, I agree with you on 43 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: that as well. And that's what domestic investors also also 44 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: are UH rotating towards in terms of investing in businesses 45 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: that are more domestic oriented. UM, whether it's manufacturing or 46 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: consumer related businesses. UH this year will probably be a 47 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: little bit more focused on UH inward UH businesses for investments, 48 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: be it especially in the equity markets. We will see 49 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: that sector rotation continue to happen towards these consumption led 50 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: businesses in India. Yeah, one of the key risks facing 51 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: markets and and yea that there is a lot of 52 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: geopolitical uncertainty obviously, so quantitative tightening will probably be one 53 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: of the things that might be talked about more this year, 54 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: especially which it will impact the rates and the flows 55 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: to equity and emerging markets considering that UH interest rates 56 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: have peaked, but debt products will probably compete a lot 57 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: more with equity products, especially from high network individuals where 58 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: they may feel the risk adjested returns are better in 59 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:59,559 Speaker 1: debt products, so that may impact equity flows as well. UM. 60 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: The lag effect of increase and interest rates will impact 61 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: earnings for Leeward companies, so one would have to be 62 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: cognizant of over leveraged businesses. What about the relationship between 63 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: India and Russia right now, particularly as it relates to 64 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 1: energy very quickly, Rocky, is there something that we should 65 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: be alert to, something maybe we should be concerned about 66 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: in this relationship. No, I don't think so. I mean 67 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,559 Speaker 1: it's played out during the past one year. In terms 68 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: of India has always stated the fact that we need 69 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: to keep our supplies um are those are oil supplies 70 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: are important for India to ensure that our inflation doesn't 71 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: go out of hand. So the policies will probably continue 72 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: as as they were continuing last years. Rocky Prisha, thank 73 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: you so much for being with us and again happy 74 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: new to New Year to you. Thanks for joining us 75 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: here on daybreak. Asia rack Key Purshot, investment manager at 76 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: Alder Capital