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Speaker 1: Because what they want to do is a couple of things. One,

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Speaker 1: That's the process. There's actually no new studio at all.

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Speaker 1: Battle of the Bands and lose, and then have to

424
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,280
Speaker 1: drive my band back through the night to get back

425
00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,600
Speaker 1: in town. There's a lot of moments that um helped

426
00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:25,440
Speaker 1: make me and helped me kind of really appreciate when

427
00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,720
Speaker 1: you show up to a place and like there's an

428
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,560
Speaker 1: on site person showing you around backstage to everything, and

429
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,800
Speaker 1: there's catering. Oh god, bless catering. You know. I'm used

430
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 1: to play in places that I had to sell my

431
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,920
Speaker 1: own merch, had to get the merch there myself, and

432
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,959
Speaker 1: then play a four hour set, find the bar manager

433
00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 1: before he gets too drunk to make sure that we

434
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,719
Speaker 1: settle and I can pay all my guys, and then

435
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,760
Speaker 1: drove them back. So now it's just I'm really grateful

436
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:52,919
Speaker 1: for all those times I've played and gigged around Georgia,

437
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 1: especially because it makes all of this just kind of

438
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,560
Speaker 1: feel like a fairy tale. So you're nineteen and you

439
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,719
Speaker 1: just said, okay, I gotta make the move. By the way,

440
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,000
Speaker 1: why would you have such a bad day? Is it

441
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 1: a boy thing? I don't know. I just remember like

442
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,720
Speaker 1: when Luke calls, I automatically go, well, I know fifty

443
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,200
Speaker 1: eight Lukes, What Luke are you? And I was like,

444
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,880
Speaker 1: why did I say that? Where did that even come from?

445
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 1: Sassy Kaylee like, gosh, you move up your nineteen ish

446
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:24,120
Speaker 1: you moved to Nashville, And what kind of car again? Oh,

447
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 1: I have an O five land Rover. So it was.

448
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,160
Speaker 1: It was a little beat up, but I just thought

449
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 1: it was so fancy and it was cheaper than a

450
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 1: newer Honda, so it still looked good. It looked really good.

451
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 1: It was like seven years old when I got it. Um,

452
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 1: but the owner before me had kept it up and

453
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 1: I was like, this looks like a Star's car. That's

454
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 1: why I Like my parents were like, you can either

455
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 1: get an old, like a newer, nicer car that's still used,

456
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 1: or you can get this way older land Rover. And

457
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 1: I was like it looks cool. Yeah, that no one

458
00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,119
Speaker 1: else had. So that was why I was like I

459
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 1: wanted and um, thank god I got it because I

460
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,920
Speaker 1: could blow up an air mattress halfway and push it

461
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 1: into the back and it became a little apartment for

462
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:13,160
Speaker 1: a while. Help. Yeah, so what so you move here?

463
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 1: And did you go I'm gonna find a place to rent.

464
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna like, what was the mindset? You're gonna stay

465
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 1: in the back of your car for a couple of weeks?

466
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 1: A few days, no, I had I was going to

467
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 1: stay in a motel and um, I had told the boyfriend,

468
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,159
Speaker 1: the guy that I was dating at the time, in

469
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,439
Speaker 1: November back home because I had been commuting for a year. Um,

470
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 1: eighteen and nineteen, I've been commuting. Um. I'd drive up

471
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,120
Speaker 1: every Sunday night and then I would write Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,

472
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,200
Speaker 1: maybe Thursday if I could book it, and then I

473
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,199
Speaker 1: would drive back home so that I could have been

474
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 1: the weekend with him in my family and be up there.

475
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,400
Speaker 1: And anyways, I'm hopeless romantic, I especially at the time,

476
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,160
Speaker 1: and I was like, it'll work. Love knows no bounds. Um,

477
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 1: So I was making that work. But it finally just

478
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: got to the point I was like, I have to go, Like,

479
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 1: I've let one man tell me that he needed me

480
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 1: so badly and then hurt me. I I need to

481
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 1: actually bet on the one thing that's never hurt me,

482
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 1: and that was the dream versus love. And I was like,

483
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:11,439
Speaker 1: I need to go, and um, anyways, my boyfriend there

484
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 1: was like, well, I'm not doing long distance and I

485
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, this sucks, but all right, So I

486
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 1: moved up. It was December one, two thousandt Um. I

487
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 1: was heartbroken. I didn't know anyone. And when I got

488
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: to the motel, the sun was going down and it

489
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,640
Speaker 1: was a thirty dollar at night motel over an Antioch,

490
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 1: and um, it was what I could afford. And it

491
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: just it just wasn't where a young girl needs to

492
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 1: stay by herself. Um it was just not good. It

493
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 1: didn't seem safe. I don't know how else to say it.

494
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,199
Speaker 1: And um, I just I remember laying in that bed

495
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 1: and I was like, I can't do this. I can't

496
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 1: stay here. So I got up in the middle of

497
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 1: the night, got my dog, got my bag and we

498
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 1: just went and slept in the Target parking lot in

499
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: Britwood because I knew that there was a security guy

500
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 1: that went all the way around at night, and I

501
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 1: knew I wouldn't get messed with, and so I did

502
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 1: that and then did you like give him my head's up. Hey,

503
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: I'll be sleeping in my car because the security guy,

504
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: because it seems like they'd kick you out of the

505
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: parking lot if they knew you were sleeping there. No

506
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: one messed with me like that was the thing. I'm like,

507
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 1: praise God for target. Um, no one messed with me.

508
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 1: So you would where would you shower? I go back

509
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 1: to the motel, So whenever I needed a shower, it

510
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: was only for a few weeks, and then, um, whenever

511
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 1: I needed a shower, I'd just go back. So you

512
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 1: would stay in your car and then occasionally go and

513
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 1: pay the nights, Yeah, pay and clean yourself up. Yeah.

514
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: It wasn't. It wasn't very glorious. Um, not very fancy,

515
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 1: but it it got me in Nashville, and that was

516
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 1: literally just all I wanted. I was like, if I'm here,

517
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 1: I can do this. You're telling your parents you're living

518
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 1: in the car. No, I was staying in a motel

519
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: and it was nice. And they didn't need to know

520
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 1: anything else because they're amazing human beings and I just

521
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: they worry. Man, That's one of our love languages is worry.

522
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 1: I think when I love someone I worry about them,

523
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: and that's what they do, you know, especially I'm the

524
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 1: baby of the family and I just got broken up

525
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: with moved seven hours away, and I'm staying in a

526
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 1: motel Like that was already bad enough. I felt like

527
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: for them to know. So I, uh, I was staying

528
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 1: in that car. And then my dad came up to

529
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: visit me. Um, there was a well driller's convention in Nashville,

530
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: so I had to go back to the motel and

531
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:29,959
Speaker 1: I just got another night pictures of yourself up vacuum

532
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: a little. Um. So yeah, so we're staying there and

533
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: I had the blow up mattress. I was like, oh'll

534
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 1: sleep on here and you can sleep in the bed.

535
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: And anyways, that night was the first time that we

536
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: snuck into Honkytown Central. My dad some of his friends

537
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 1: were going to go there, and I was like, well,

538
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 1: if I get there before six, they won't. I d

539
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 1: me and um, I had a fake I d that

540
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: a girl I played basketball with in high school had

541
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,199
Speaker 1: ordered me one on line that said I was from Pincacola, Florida,

542
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 1: I think, And UM, like the dark Web, like, where

543
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: do you order? Oh man, I don't even know this girl.

544
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: This girl hooked me up and I got two of them.

545
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: So when the first one got caught, I had a

546
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: purse rolling out in my car like sev eighteen, and

547
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: the of course the police officers in my hometown found it,

548
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: and they were like, so, ma'am, we found a lot

549
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: of your stuff. Actually a lot of it made it.

550
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: But um, there's two I d s. And I was like,

551
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 1: I can explain, I can explain. Oh yeah, that was

552
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: that was a weird conversation. But um, in the back

553
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: of my head, I was like, thank god they gave

554
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: me two when I ordered these. Um but anyways, okay, sorry,

555
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 1: back to Nashville, staying in my car. Um, my dad

556
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: came up. We went to Hockey Talk Central and which

557
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: is a big Broadway bar for those it's like a

558
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 1: big bar in the middle of like tourist y Nashville. Yeah,

559
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 1: it's three floors. It's one of the louder ones and

560
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: um yeah. So I went up to the main stage

561
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: and I asked the bass player if I could sing,

562
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: and um he said forty dollars to sing with the band. Wait,

563
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: oh yeah. Because the thing is, people come up all

564
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 1: the time and they're like, I can sing so oh good,

565
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: like if you just give me the migraphone, you know,

566
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: and you're just like, um, I you know, because you're like,

567
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: you're going to run off the other people if I

568
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: let you up. But for forty dollars, I'll let you

569
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: up and you can see Britney spears for three minutes.

570
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 1: Come on. You know. It was another way for us

571
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: to make money because we get um tips there. We

572
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: don't usually get a very big base pay. Base pay

573
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: was like the bar would give you twenty five dollars

574
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 1: for a four hour set and the rest is tips.

575
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: So um. Anyways, when he says that to me, I

576
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: automatically was just like what And he's like, he's forty dollars,

577
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 1: don't you want to do it? And I turned back

578
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: around and I was like, look, I I get paid

579
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: to sing. I don't pay to sing anymore. Thanks, And

580
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 1: I just turned around and walked off. And of course

581
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: as I turned around, I bumped into this older man

582
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: with a teenage mutant into turtle shirt on, a flannel

583
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 1: shirt over that, a big white beard and beanie on,

584
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: and he's like, well, where do you get paid to sing?

585
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: And it was Greg Humphrey. Um. He was the bar

586
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: or the band manager down there for years. He used

587
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: to play with Willie and Charlie Pridde and all of

588
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: them at the Palmino over in um l A. And anyways,

589
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 1: he's just a wonderful bass player. He was a wonderful

590
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: human being. And he was like, okay, like where do

591
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: you play? And I told him and he turned around

592
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: and he said a Jeb like, Jeff, don't be a

593
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: beep whole. I don't know if we can tuss, like Jeb,

594
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: don't be an asshole, like let the girls sing, and

595
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: I did, and I brought my harmonica with me like

596
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: I was ready. You know, um, I think I started

597
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: with Gunpowder Lead and then I did Copperhead Road and

598
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: I did the dance to it as well. Yeah, well,

599
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: I was like, well, what can get people dancing? That's

600
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: what it is is. Commercial music is whatever it takes

601
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: for someone to take money out of their wallet and

602
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: put it in that bucket in my hand. So I

603
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: was like, okay, like I'll just give you that, and

604
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: then did like Mary Jane, our last dance of Mary

605
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: Jane and played the harmonica on it, and um, they're

606
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: like holy. Well after that, I kept looking out there

607
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: and Greg kept spinning his finger and that's like one more,

608
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: one more, one more. Got to about seven songs and

609
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: then Um came down and he's like, you want a job,

610
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: and I was like yes, sir, and he's like, well,

611
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: be here tomorrow. So I did it. The next day.

612
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: He made me rund the tip jug and it was

613
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: it was like a scene out of a movie Bobby.

614
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: It was he got the tip jug from It was

615
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: the first time I've ever had to ask someone for money,

616
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: you know, and asked them, how much do you think

617
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: my talent is worthy? Put it in this bucket? And um, yeah.

618
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: He looked down in the bucket and he looked at me,

619
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: and he looked down on the bucket again and shook

620
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: it some and he said he's seen good and he

621
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: talked slow people like that. You still need a job,

622
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: and I was like yes her, and Um He's like,

623
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: all right, be back at eleven. And I was like, Humphrey, actually,

624
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,479
Speaker 1: I'm I'm under age, Like I'm nineteen. Do you think

625
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: I can get in? And he goes, if you come

626
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: in with me once, they'll never ask for your idea again.

627
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: And I was like okay, And they didn't like I,

628
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: I went back and forth, and when I finally turned

629
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: twenty one and they thought I was turning twenty five,

630
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: that was when I finally told everyone that's funny. So

631
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: and that kind of became your place for a bit. Yeah,

632
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: it was. Um it was where the creators and the

633
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: singers and the musicians that needed to pay their bills

634
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: but didn't nowhere else to do that, you know, doing

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668
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,800
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669
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: slips there. Yeah, I'm giving you a second here to

670
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: have some coffee while I tell like a slow story.

671
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: I'll go down to Broadway sometimes and you see all

672
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: the people that are playing, and it's a lot of

673
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674
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,960
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675
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: type story and be on a major stage. You go, look,

676
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: this is this is kind of the path that I took.

677
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: And I always come in. It's always cool to see

678
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: because there are a couple of a couple of Christiansen's

679
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: one of them too. I know who. I saw him

680
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: for the first time down there. Yeah, and so did

681
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: you ever see the always wonder did you ever were

682
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: ever playing and like an artist would come in or

683
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: somebody the kind of famous would come in and you

684
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: would go, oh man, or a record guy and they

685
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: weren't really looking. They just happened to be in that bar.

686
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: Oh man. There. Every now and then there be someone

687
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: like a publisher or something that I knew, and I

688
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, my god, don't judge me,

689
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,959
Speaker 1: like I can I can write real sincere songs. All right,

690
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: here's redneck woman. So you were like, oh, don't judge

691
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: me instead of like, oh, I have time a second

692
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: to shine in front of these people. Yeah, because the

693
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: whole time, what I was, the reason I thought they

694
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: would judge me, was I wanted to be a songwriter.

695
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: You know. It wasn't really about being the artist. It

696
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: was about I want to tell this story. And what

697
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: I realized after signing it Universal Publishing was a lot

698
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: of my songs and things I say, no one wants

699
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: to say that that way, you know. Um, So I

700
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: knew that I had to be the artist to put

701
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: it out just to get those stories where I wanted them,

702
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: and that was in the public. So I don't know,

703
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: I just I would have rather been at a right

704
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: around and just been me and a guitar and go on, okay,

705
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: let me take you down a memory lane, you know,

706
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: instead of like, here's one more song about drinking. He

707
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: and Yeah, your accents are funny too. She has a

708
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: different accent for every story. Sometimes she's a left and

709
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: I've been wondering when you pick it up, Yeah, that's

710
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: I'm assuming that's Irish. I don't scartularly, it's really bad.

711
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: Once you pointed out what's your living situation turned into?

712
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: Because you're for a bet, you're sleeping a target. But

713
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: then you get a job and you're actually able to

714
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 1: make money. Do you find an apartment? Yep? I found

715
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: a little um sublet apartment that I leased. It was

716
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: a basement apartment in Bellevue, and I killed every single

717
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 1: house plant I ever bought because there wasn't enough sunlight basement. Yes,

718
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: but the thing is, actually, looking back on it now,

719
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: if there was one thing I could say to that girl,

720
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: like just enjoy it, because I cannot tell you the

721
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: last time I just had a day off to myself

722
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: with a good friend there and absolutely nothing to do,

723
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: because there is a sense of freedom and this pureness

724
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 1: of happiness there that you can find in that kind

725
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,479
Speaker 1: of dark basement apartment if you have a good friend

726
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: with you. And um, I feel like now life is

727
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: just so busy that you don't get time to really overthink.

728
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: You don't get time to wonder anymore. You know, it's

729
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: just go, go go. I bet you're like that, um,

730
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: but yeah, there's something about that little basement apartment. Though

731
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: it killed all my house plants, they had good moments.

732
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: You know, we were poor, so we'd go to Sonic Wednesdays,

733
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: there's fifty cent corn dogs. Uh. We'd spend our nights

734
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: off at McKay's, the used bookstore, and if I was lonely,

735
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: I would just go up there on a Friday night.

736
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: I went almost every single Friday night, and I would

737
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: find a book that I wanted to read, and then

738
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: I just sit down in an aisle and watch people,

739
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: and like, you can't imagine how many people come to

740
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: a used bookstore on a Friday night, and I um,

741
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: i'd start writing songs about them or just basking in

742
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: the company of knowing the world still spinning around me.

743
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: Though I feel like I'm, you know, isolated in that

744
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: basement apartment, but then I go to work and at

745
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: see a plethora of people and personalities, and then I'd

746
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: go hide away in my little basement dungeon apartment and

747
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: write songs about it. It's funny you mentioned, because I

748
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 1: think back to it when I was in college living

749
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: in this really rotten apartment, and how much fun that

750
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: I had because the whole world was still kind of

751
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: in front of me. When the whole world is still

752
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 1: out there even though you're super broke, you go eventually,

753
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to figure this out and there's a sense of, yeah,

754
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 1: it's a struggle now, but I have so much space,

755
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: have so much it's just such an empty canvas for

756
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: me to create over the years that it is fun.

757
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: I struggle with that if I could just tell that

758
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,720
Speaker 1: person to just have fun because I was having trouble

759
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: getting lunch meat. It's hard to have fun whenever you

760
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: can't really get bologny and cheese, and you just gotta

761
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: get bologny. So it's kind of it's a weird mix.

762
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: It's a weird mix of struggle. But when I look back,

763
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: it was super pure like that. That the the amount

764
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: of man, I'm eventually going to figure this out that

765
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: was inside of me was I was full of it

766
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: and not like I'm full of crap now, but I

767
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: just knew it was gonna I know how it's gonna

768
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 1: work out. But if I didn't think it's gonna work out,

769
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: I wouldn't stay doing it. Like if I ever thought

770
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it, I would have just I

771
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: would have done something else. And I'm assuming that's the

772
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 1: same with you. As much of a struggle as it was,

773
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: you had to believe in yourself so much because there's

774
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: an ego involved in what we do. Any time you

775
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: create something and you go I think what I'm doing

776
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: is good enough that people will either pay for it

777
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: or they'll sit through it and listen to an advertisement

778
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 1: because I'm worth it. On the other side of it,

779
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: there is an ego, sometimes healthy, sometimes not. And with

780
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: that being said, like you had to be in this

781
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: basement going will not just get my shot, or when

782
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: I take these couple more steps, like people are gonna

783
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: love what I have to say. I mean that was

784
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: the thing, right, Yeah, I had. Um, I've realized for me,

785
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: like I get intense in the and I used to think, Um,

786
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: I do you know what your angiogram is? Eight? Defy,

787
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: I an't one beat and the broken one whatever the

788
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 1: second one is? Yeah, wow, Okay, I was thinking for

789
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: some reason, I was thinking three with a four wing.

790
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,439
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I'm I've taken that test. Listen.

791
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: I'm not a big belief. Sure, it's okay. You don't

792
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: have to believe. I don't not believe. I won't start

793
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: talking about horoscope. You can, you can't. I don't not believe.

794
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 1: I just don't believe. I get it. Meaning if you believe.

795
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: I mean, it's awesome for you and I'm not gonna

796
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: hate on you for it because there's no way I

797
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: can prove you wrong. Well what I've I didn't really

798
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: believe it until I read this book called Sacred Inngiogram

799
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: and it goes in depth, like with the numbers, and

800
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: all it did was it showed a little clarity for

801
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 1: me and I got something out of it. But um,

802
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 1: it talked about how the four the individualist my number.

803
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: It said that my weakness was envy, and I was like, no,

804
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: I don't really like, I don't get envious of I'm

805
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: single as it come, but I don't get envious of relationships.

806
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: I I'm not the skinny tan beauty, you know. I

807
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: was like, but I don't get envious to that. Like

808
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: there's moments and I was like, I don't get envious

809
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: of other people in their situations. But then I went

810
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: to an Eric Church concert and I was sick the

811
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: entire time, just sick to my stomach watching someone else

812
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: do what I wanted to do so badly. And I

813
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 1: wasn't able to so um for years. I am finally

814
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: to the point now that I can watch music documentaries

815
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: so now it's like all I watch um because I

816
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: couldn't for years watch that and listen to artists and

817
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: musicians and writers talk about how they crafted their skill

818
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: and stuff because I felt so unworthy of even knowing

819
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: anything about it, and I felt so small, and I

820
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: was envious of they're really doing it, you know, they're

821
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: getting to create something put it out into the world.

822
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: And uh, now I can finally go to a concert

823
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: and enjoy myself because I get to be on a

824
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: stage and I have that. I literally have that little

825
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 1: soapbox to put my word out on. And for a while, though, yeah,

826
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 1: it was very envious of anyone living their dream because

827
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: I was dark. I didn't have anything to kind of

828
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: feel that void. I was still trying to figure out

829
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: who I was, and I had to go through that.

830
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: It's funny how we look at other people and they

831
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 1: give us different inspirations, and by the people on individual

832
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 1: people give us different feelings. But for you, you mentioned envy.

833
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: For me, it's all it's competition. Like I see people

834
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: and I go, oh, well, they had it easier than

835
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: I did, and I'm about to be better than they are.

836
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: And and I think a lot a lot of It's

837
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: how I grew up and I was always the small,

838
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: poor kid who got picked on. So every everything in

839
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: life with a competition to me had to prove myself

840
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: all that you feel that you have to prove yourself

841
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: and unhealthily to like, you know, I get it. I

842
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: totally get it. I feel little snippets of that. I'm

843
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: not proud of it, so that's not going. But you know,

844
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: I think a lot of how we were wired ends

845
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: up being on how we treat ourselves and treat others,

846
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 1: you know, later in life. And I wonder where that

847
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: comes from with you where you where you said, the

848
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: people and you're just still because for me it's not

849
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: healthy sometimes where I'm just like, oh, okay, you want

850
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: to do you think you're good, I'm about to be

851
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: the best radio personal in the history of the world

852
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: and give me a minute, and never I'm jealous of

853
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 1: where you are, but it's about to be I'm about

854
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: to beat you at where are you? I could. I'm

855
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: telling for the first ten years of my career, and

856
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: I started when I was seventeen, every show I was

857
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: up against, I hated them, didn't you meet them? Hated

858
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: their guts. I didn't. If the Pope was on one

859
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: to one point three Pope FM starring the Pope, I

860
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: was like, I hate him. It's gonna be dope. Now

861
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: it's different. Now I have a platform where there really

862
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: isn't anyone who is based on who I'm talking to

863
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: a contemporary, So I'm not really competing with people now,

864
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: and I'm competing with YouTube. I'm competing with just the world.

865
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: You're just trying to get anybody's attention to It's impossible,

866
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 1: like anyone's attention anymore because there are so many things.

867
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 1: But for me, that's where mine comes from. Where do

868
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: you think gears comes from? I don't really know. I

869
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: think it's because as a kid. As a kid, I

870
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: had two older siblings that we had already kind of

871
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: moved on and went to high school or college by

872
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: the time I came about my mom and went back

873
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: to school, and my dad just worked really hard, so

874
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: I had a lot of time to myself. Um, I

875
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: was alone a lot. I felt like, um, but I

876
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: feel like that's exactly what made me me and it's

877
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: where my imagination came from. You know, I had to

878
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: be alone. I had to be lonely and board for

879
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: my brain to create what it needed to create UM,

880
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 1: so that I can create what I create now. But

881
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: there was moments of like I just remember, like watching

882
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: like Stevie Nicks. There'd be a rerun of her and

883
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: some concert with Fleetwood Mac and I'd just be like, God,

884
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,439
Speaker 1: I just want that, I just want that. I would

885
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: watch UM. One of the first things I ever bought.

886
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: Did you ever buy anything from the TV in your life?

887
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 1: Like that? You call in and it's like three orders

888
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: of twenty five shipping and handling. That's a funny impression, Amy,

889
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: my friend, my co host, did all the time. I

890
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 1: never buy I take that back. I bought the ab

891
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: shocker once. It was like a torture, like you put

892
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: it on. Apparently it shocked the six pack. I gotta

893
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 1: tell you, the only thing I had a little burn

894
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: marks on. He turned it out. I was going to

895
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: say no and beat Mr. Cool guy. Don't ever be cool.

896
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I really was just feeling like I hadn't

897
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 1: and I was like, no, of course, why would have buy.

898
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, I'm smart. Then I go, you

899
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: know what, I bought the absolute lamest thing you could buy.

900
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: I had it too. Yeah, no shame here. What else

901
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 1: would you buy? Mine? Was? I think I was like

902
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: twelve years old, and um, it was this disc collection.

903
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: It was like I still have the tin and everything,

904
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: but it was the golden classics of country music. It

905
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: was the gown Yes, And that was literally all I

906
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: wanted was to be in that little title track of

907
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: like and I didn't want to be just in the

908
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: title track that's going down. I want to be the

909
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: one that's highlighted and then they're going to have the

910
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: karaoke words with a little bouncing ball and it's gonna

911
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: be a like a picture of me on Porter Wagner's show.

912
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: That was what I wanted. Um. I would just sit

913
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: there and listen to that over and over and over

914
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: again and be like a ten minute INFO commercial and

915
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: be like, Mom, Canna please get it please, and she's like,

916
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: we don't buy things off the TV. I'm like And finally,

917
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: after I complained enough and begged enough, my dad was like,

918
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: just buy the freaking CD set, just do it, and

919
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: we did, and I just wore it out. Old Country

920
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: Classic Country was like, oh I listened to when I

921
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: was a kid. It felt like but yeah, I just

922
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: I wanted that. I wanted to be lauret ale In.

923
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: I wanted to beat Patsy Klein. What were your parents? Musically?

924
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: My mom she introduced me to Jim Crochy and um

925
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: by the way that like bad badly Roy Brown, like

926
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: like Jim like seven Jim him in places seventies soul

927
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: country almost is what Jim Croch. People don't know Jim

928
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: Croach is. Um like you could probably play a little

929
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: little Jim Croach you can keep probably. I just want

930
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: to make sure that people kind of falling because I

931
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: love Jim Croach Message a Bottle Time and this is

932
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 1: actually this is one of my two all time favorite songs.

933
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: He was able to tell a story with just a

934
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: guitar in his voice, with my bes friend right right here. Gosh,

935
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: she said, you new women sometimes like, uh, just I

936
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: just I feel like he was one of those in

937
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 1: depth lyricists that you'd listen over and over and then

938
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: you'd pick up some little way that he'd say something

939
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: and you're like, that's what he did by it. He

940
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 1: was one of those that I could die into and

941
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: listen to over and over and over again and get

942
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: something just a little different or a little humor, let

943
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 1: some tongue in cheek in there, um, I discovered something

944
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: so nuanced you'd always hear a little because I also

945
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: listen to a lot of My mom is a big

946
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: Jim Crowchy fan, and she was the funny I wrote

947
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: on my first book. Whenever my mom died, I was

948
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: at a funeral. I was speaking at her funeral. I

949
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: was struggling with talking. I had to talk to my

950
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: mom's funeral and she died in her forties. And so

951
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: but I remember as she was as I was talking,

952
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: I was crying my face off. Somebody's cell phone rings.

953
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: It's a freaking Jim Crowchy ring tone. That was her smell,

954
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 1: and it I don't know what it was, but so, yeah,

955
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: and this came by, and so I think about this

956
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: man around bat Man in the whole damn town men. Yeah,

957
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,479
Speaker 1: I love he was one of those like who else

958
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: can write about a fight a bar fight, and it's

959
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 1: three minutes of like this end depth story where I'm

960
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: just sitting there like, okay, well what happened to him?

961
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: You know, Like there's one line that he says, uh,

962
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: he came up from the ground looking like a jigsaw

963
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 1: puzzle with a couple of pieces gone, and I'm like,

964
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Like his way of describing things is beautiful.

965
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: My mom loved James Taylor. Um. She loves anything like

966
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 1: the coffee House Channel. Now, that's kind of her vibe.

967
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: She loves songwriters and storytellers. It's kind of my vibe too.

968
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: If I have to pick a vibe, that's probably my

969
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 1: vibe too. It's just mellow and nice, easy going. I

970
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: like sad songs. I guess it's probably I really like sad.

971
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 1: Do you feel like to bring yourself to Catharsis or

972
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: what do you get out of it? You know, I

973
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: don't feel happiness often, but I can feel sadness. You

974
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: like the feeling of it. Then I like to feel anything, dude,

975
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. I just like to feel something because

976
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: I struggle with with that. And I don't do well

977
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 1: with happiness because I feel like it's always going to

978
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: go away. It's so fleeting that it's gone, so I

979
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: don't feel I don't feel there's a vulnerability and feeling

980
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: happy that I don't do well with sadness. Okay, it's

981
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,439
Speaker 1: like a warm blanket. I totally get it. I seem

982
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 1: to kind of be drawn towards the melancholy um side

983
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: of life. I don't know why, but that's where I

984
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: felt good. And I realized the older I got that

985
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 1: I either want to be up or I want to

986
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 1: be down. I don't hate the middle, you know. Um

987
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 1: there's actually a girl I went to high school with that. Um.

988
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: She was one of those people that every single day

989
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: she felt the exact same like whether she was happy,

990
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 1: whether she was sad, whether her boyfriend broke up, whether

991
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 1: she was the exact same person every single day. And

992
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,760
Speaker 1: I am the opposite. I'm normally like a little chipmunk

993
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: on crack most days. And then when I'm sad, it's

994
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: like you may not be able to get me out

995
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 1: of the house. And it's like a few days a

996
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: year that it's like that bad, and I just have

997
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: to respect myself and let myself kind of just dive

998
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 1: into my pity party, you know, and I'm fine the

999
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: next day normally. And uh what I kind of realized

1000
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,720
Speaker 1: because I always wondered, like, how is Lindsay so happy?

1001
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,720
Speaker 1: Why was she so happy? Like just always so mellow,

1002
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:56,720
Speaker 1: you know, And I was almost envious of that because

1003
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: I couldn't feel that just a normal like it was

1004
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: either I was super super happy or was really really sad.

1005
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: And I feel like a lot of creative people are

1006
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: this way. But um, there was a see saw in

1007
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: our backyard that finally I remember one day sitting out

1008
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: in the backyard and looking at it, and I realized

1009
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: kind of what it was. It was like if if

1010
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: we were standing on that seesaw. Lindsay was somewhere in

1011
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: the middle, so the up and down wasn't really much,

1012
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: and I am some little overweight ten year old flinging

1013
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: her body on the farthest reaches of it, you know.

1014
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: So I was either like just rocketed into the sky

1015
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 1: emotionally or I was flat on my butt in the dirt.

1016
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: And um, I think the minute I kind of learned

1017
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: how to embrace that and just, I don't know, be

1018
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: okay with that, be okay with crying and being statically

1019
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: happy to that's what you are. And I know, and

1020
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: I've done a lot of work on myself, and I said,

1021
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: I don't I far fewer times am I sitting in

1022
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: my room listening to If I Can Only Fly from

1023
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: Merle Haggard. I do still some and a m everybody

1024
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,919
Speaker 1: hurts like those those are the want. Oh, that one's

1025
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: such a good lay down and cross song at like

1026
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: you're in a movie. It's far fewer, but I know

1027
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: that that's where I go. And I was talking to

1028
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: a friend pretty recently and she's a comedian, and she

1029
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: was she's editing her special, She's with She's with the

1030
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: other she just did a Netflix special and she was like,

1031
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: I know that I'm going to break down four or

1032
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 1: five times. I'm gonna hate myself as I'm breaking down

1033
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: every single time. And I'm like, well, if you know

1034
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: that you're gonna break down four or five times, why

1035
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: don't you give yourself four or five coupons to break

1036
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: down and know that as you're doing it each time,

1037
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: this is you and you're okay with you, and this

1038
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: is the expectation you have of yourself. Now, if there's

1039
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: nine times there's there's something that's a bit wrong and

1040
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: you kind of need to address that. But if you

1041
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 1: can actually understand how you react the situations, you can

1042
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 1: prepare better. And you know I with me, I have

1043
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: to do that a lot, and I've gotten to be

1044
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: a bit happier. It's kind of because you're just you're

1045
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: loving on yourself more by allowing yourself to be you

1046
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 1: I do. I finally understand what loving yourself means for

1047
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: the first time too, because if I used to think

1048
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: people say that, but like when dudes, I gotta learn

1049
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 1: to love, you're just trying to break up with me.

1050
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: I know what this means now. What it means to

1051
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: me is sometimes if you love, if there someone in

1052
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: your lives that you love like you're close to them

1053
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: as a friend or even romantic or family member, that

1054
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: if you love them, you have to sometimes make hard

1055
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 1: decisions for them, even if it's not if it's not fun,

1056
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: but you have for yourself. Sometimes to like to love

1057
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: yourself means to make good decisions for yourself, even if

1058
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: it's like I love to eat lots of candy and

1059
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: sweets and desserts, and but that's not Sometimes I have

1060
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: to love myself enough to go yo chill, or to

1061
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: get enough sleep, because I will go days just because

1062
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: with my schedule, I will go days. I don't know

1063
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: how when you sleep, because I struggle to get enough sleep,

1064
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: and I'm doing like a fifth of what you do,

1065
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 1: and you're not doing a fifth of one I do.

1066
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 1: And that's that's nice. Of you to say, we're all

1067
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: working hard, but I have to make I don't have

1068
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: like fifteen shows. I have to go a pure all

1069
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: that job. I don't you know, I don't get to

1070
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: do such a good anything. You know that. I but

1071
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: but I do feel like me loving myself. It's going

1072
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: all right. You know, you want to keep writing tonight

1073
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: for for this next book or whatever, but you have

1074
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: to actually love and respect yourself enough to get some sleep.

1075
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: And I finally started to understand what and I do,

1076
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: so I do love myself a little bit more now.

1077
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: I think it's healthier for me. It's interesting that you

1078
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 1: bring that up and that you say that are you

1079
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 1: doing that with you? Like are you? Oh? Yeah? Sleep

1080
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: as something I feel like as a vocalist, you've got

1081
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: to get eight or not hours, like just for my

1082
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 1: voice to be where I want it to be. Because

1083
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: I hate A big pet peeve of mine is I

1084
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 1: don't like half passing when someone gets on stage and like, oh,

1085
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 1: I gotta pull off of this note. I'm like, I

1086
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: don't want to do that, but I know that we

1087
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 1: have to play so much sometimes you have to and

1088
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 1: you have to work off two hours of sleep, you know,

1089
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: but I try to just yeah, keep myself in check,

1090
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: like keep my mental and physical health in check, because

1091
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: I have to be sparkly a lot. You know, you

1092
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: have to be sparkly a lot. The most exhausting thing

1093
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: about what I do is what you call be sparkly.

1094
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 1: Is I gotta be on all the time. It just

1095
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 1: it takes so much more energy, I think than people know.

1096
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: And it's not that we don't enjoy it. Like I

1097
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: love when I'm able to make connections and I can

1098
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: go to bed knowing that I made someone smile today,

1099
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: Like sometimes that is what I need. I struggle with

1100
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: darkness in my life, and that is something that I

1101
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: clean to is to know that I have helped someone

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00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: or done good by someone. Um, even if it's just

1103
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 1: someone singing along to one song, you know, and smiling

1104
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 1: in the crowd. But it's it's really tiring. I have

1105
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 1: become a nap master. I feel like I can nap anywhere.

1106
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 1: If I have my bows, headphones on, and I have

1107
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: my neck pillow and a little blanket, I can just

1108
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 1: post up anywhere in the corner and just knock out

1109
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,439
Speaker 1: for twenty minutes. Not good for you, because I can't

1110
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: and I need it. You know, you talk about your

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00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 1: term is sparkly, Um, what's what's a good term? Well

1112
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: being on? Because I my thing is I'm not an

1113
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: outgoing person. I'm just not that's not in me. That

1114
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 1: being said, I'll go on stage a new stand up

1115
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 1: for an hour, I'll do a by the our radio show,

1116
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: I'll go up and do comedy music, I'll do let

1117
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: I have jobs where I'm super on, and then when

1118
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: i'm not, I'm so off that people will see me

1119
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: sometimes and if I'm not like they're like, oh, what

1120
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: a dick? And so that being and and and listen,

1121
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: my stepdad, my mom remarried once I was like thirteen

1122
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: and fourteen. My stepdad worked at the mill. So I'm

1123
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 1: not comparing my job to his. But I'm saying, for

1124
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 1: what I do I have, I have to stay on

1125
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: all the time because if I don't, I don't want

1126
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 1: people think Dad, I'm not a dick. But if I'm

1127
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: at the airport and I got my head down and

1128
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: I'm tired or I don't know that I'm not feeling well,

1129
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: I get on Instagram, Well come on, we listen to

1130
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: to you every morning, and you're gonna be addck to us,

1131
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't even see you didn't say

1132
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 1: it's one of those things. Now, I just put my

1133
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 1: headphones on and I'm just like shoot, like I it

1134
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: is kind of revert into myself like a little hermit.

1135
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: You're such a bold You're such a bold like physical

1136
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 1: presence though, like you with your big red hair, like

1137
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: you can't walk buy and people not go I know,

1138
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: which is amazing. And I'm so grateful when someone recognizes me,

1139
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: like it's a rare thing for me, Bobby. But the

1140
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 1: thing is, like I still sometimes like when I have

1141
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: no makeup on, I look, I'm either Kaylee Hammock or

1142
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: raccoon with the dark circles unnath my eyes and it's

1143
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: a five am fly you know, to Detroit or something,

1144
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, I can totally talk to you.

1145
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 1: Just please don't ask for a picture because I really

1146
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: don't want this one Instagram. You know what's funny about

1147
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: that is where where was I recently? Where people? And

1148
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: I when you come up to me, the only time

1149
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: I say, don't approach people if they're what they're eating,

1150
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: if they're eating, don't go to people and there to

1151
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 1: kids otherwise we signed up. We love what we do,

1152
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: like I wouldn't be able to have I want to

1153
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,919
Speaker 1: do this podcast if warm people listening. But some people

1154
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: now will just walk up and I forget where I

1155
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: was at the airport here that they don't even ask

1156
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 1: me for a picture. They just come up and just

1157
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: start snapping, And I'm like, at least let me see

1158
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 1: my own. I know you're gonna post it. At least

1159
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 1: let me like take this sleep out of my eyes

1160
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 1: and let me smile. I'll take any picture you ever want.

1161
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 1: I think it's so funny when people people are so kind,

1162
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 1: you know, but like like someone will come up to

1163
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: and be like, you're so pretty. I'm like, trust me,

1164
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: like right now with all my make go on and

1165
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 1: me smiling directly at the camera. But it's so funny

1166
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 1: when people go to take like a burst and it's

1167
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: me talking in between. I look like a cartoon character

1168
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: the way my face moves. I'm like, I look so stupid.

1169
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: You do a bit look like a country Jessica rabbit.

1170
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: I was trying to you and you haven't heard that

1171
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: before because your hair is so red? Is now is

1172
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: the red all? Like? How red? Or do you make

1173
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: it Oh, I love to make it real Red. I

1174
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: like to go to the ziggy look. I I love

1175
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: David Bowie. So it kind of just gives me like,

1176
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's kind of a little self confidence

1177
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: boots boost. I can't talk. Um. Maybe I've drank too

1178
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: much coffee. Now. My tongue is moving faster than I

1179
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 1: very is. It's funny to hear you talk about a

1180
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: lot of these older artists because I was listening to

1181
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: a lot of classic rock when I was a kid too,

1182
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: and I have a lot of um music that I

1183
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: loved was before when I was born, right, And you're

1184
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: you're bringing up all these artists too, and some Mike

1185
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: Wu was in recently we were talking about old music. Yeah,

1186
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: because we talked. She talked about old artists in cocon Ol,

1187
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: and I was like, preach, girl, preach. I think part

1188
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: of where we come from being the South, that there's

1189
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: there's so many classic rock radio stations and classic country

1190
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: stations that we grow up and that's just more of

1191
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 1: a part of us than in other parts of the

1192
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: United States. Even like I knew every CCR song that

1193
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: you could buy it, Like, I love Credence. I loved

1194
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: all these I loved Zeppelin, I loved David Bowie, I

1195
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: love Jim crow Chick. All this stuff was because of

1196
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: all the classic rock radio that was everywhere. There were

1197
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: like three classic rock stations in the Rock and Hotspurring

1198
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: and so. And it's funny whenever you, guys, because as

1199
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: you grew up in Texas and you grew up in Georgia,

1200
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: and I think that's a big part of why we

1201
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: have all these years and years of musical influence. Also

1202
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 1: because where we grew up, we weren't the most technologically advanced. Either.

1203
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 1: It was burnt CDs passed down for me, and cassettes

1204
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 1: even and yeah, and even pause play record cassettes, or

1205
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: you would tape off the radio. Yeah for becase, guy,

1206
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 1: I don't let the DJ talk over the front of

1207
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: the song because then I gotta listen to that every

1208
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 1: time I want to hear Baby Got Back. You know

1209
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: that would happen. So, yeah, it's funny to hear you talk.

1210
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: Let's do this, and let's do and this is not

1211
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 1: you're not married to this, but if you were going

1212
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: to have a mount rushmore of your five favorite artists

1213
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: of all time, and I can go I'll do it

1214
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: along with you. So it's your time to think so,

1215
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: because I haven't done Amount Rushmore either, but five favorite

1216
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 1: artists and if you pick a band, that's fine. The

1217
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: lead singer the band just goes up and represents the

1218
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: whole band. Okay, So this is a mount Rushmore for

1219
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: just me personally, or do I have to pick it

1220
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: for like just you? It's only you, your heart, your life,

1221
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 1: you Okay. The mount Rushmore of my heart Bowie would

1222
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: be Washington. Okay, you don't have to instart them for anybody.

1223
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: You can just pick five. What if I went, because

1224
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna because I'm just gonna put them up

1225
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: in see. I feel like Tom Waits would probably be

1226
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: the Roosevelt, the little little tiny head looking over looking

1227
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: over their shoulder. I love Tom Waights, Tom Waits, I'm

1228
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 1: obsessed with them. I would listen to Tom Waits and

1229
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 1: take that would be my nap artist because he just

1230
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 1: he just wait what record? Because some of them is like, like,

1231
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: it comes in really aggressive. I don't think I can

1232
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: nap through that. It definitely wasn't the weights harder stuff.

1233
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: It was the weights. The more Mike we play some

1234
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 1: Tom Waits' play like Lulla By or something, but I

1235
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 1: would I would snap in college or clap hands or

1236
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: jockey full of bourbon. What's your favorite? Like Waights record?

1237
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 1: Look at you over here? No one, Tom Wait, no one?

1238
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 1: I love years old. So my dad told me that

1239
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: I was thirty five when I was born and of

1240
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: age progressively ever since. But it's like an odd Benjamin

1241
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: Button's Okay, so one at a time, your first one? Okay, Bowie, wait,

1242
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 1: hold on one of the time. Okay, all the rules Okay,

1243
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 1: I'm a rule breaker. Oh okay, we'll talk over this. Ah,

1244
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: this is nice to talk over. Hello everyone, and welcome

1245
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: to our central reading of our podcast. Welcome to NPR Today.

1246
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the organic b issue as a

1247
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 1: south central Alabama and Nora Robert's newest hit book. I

1248
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: don't know why, but that's what made me think of that. Boys. Okay,

1249
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 1: who'd you put on first? David Boy, David Bowie. I'm

1250
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 1: gonna put on John May go ahead, okay, yeah, alright,

1251
01:00:52,560 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 1: uh wait, um, I'll put on Garth Loretta. Yeah, I'm

1252
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 1: gonna put on Ben Folds, Johnny Cash. It's tough. You've

1253
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 1: got a lot of influences here, I'm gonna put on

1254
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 1: pound for pound, I'm probably gonna put on Willie. We

1255
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 1: got one more, I know, I know. I thought about

1256
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 1: saying Frank Zapp would be funny, but I was like,

1257
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 1: actually enjoy him, Ben Harper on the last one, I

1258
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 1: didn't always have to steal Mack keeps from you. I

1259
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 1: love that song that was on a burnt Seatie. My

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01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: sister handed down to me, Um, okay, I think my

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Speaker 1: last one gotta be Cake Wow, good pick. Like I

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Speaker 1: almost almost did it, but I was like, no, I'm

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01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: a bigger Cake fan. I think weird you would. I

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01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 1: love Kake. I want to watch it. Their musical interpretation

1265
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 1: of everything ever, just which loose. That's a tough one

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01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 1: to say. Oh my god, no no, no, no, no no.

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Speaker 1: Go in the distance, the distance, Yeah that's I used

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01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 1: to run to the and it's at the starting. Yeah,

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01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 1: there you go, jo and time the green light flashes,

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01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 1: the flags go journey. They definitely and muscleful, rain felt

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01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 1: and empty stake. So the reason I love these guys

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01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 1: is their sound is just so unique. I mean, who

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01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 1: else sounds like them? Yeah? Yeah nobody. And I haven't

1274
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 1: heard this song forever turned up. That was another one.

1275
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 1: And all color covers look the same. It's a different

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01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 1: color in the shape on the on the front of

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01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 1: all the all the right strip didn't turn it up.

1278
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 1: But let's get burn He's going in the distance. He's

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01:02:53,520 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 1: going for speed, She's all and then it kind of

1280
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 1: sitting out was never there like that was their big poppet. Yeah,

1281
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 1: I need your arms around me. I need to fill

1282
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 1: Also the bass riffs. I'm a secret like bass lover.

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01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: I got my little Bronco base at my house that

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01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 1: I never play bass in front of people, but I

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01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 1: loved to just sit and yeah, just make up little

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01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: riffs and then all I gotta do is get four

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01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 1: bars of it, throw it on the logic, and then

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01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 1: the next ride I go into I'm like, okay, there's

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01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 1: this like it's just fun. But if someone handed me

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01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 1: a bass was like, go ahead and play it, I

1291
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 1: would just completely fall apart. It's one of those liked

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01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 1: in that accident, I'd be like, where are you from?

1293
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 1: I don't, Turkey, are you from that accident? And what's

1294
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 1: in this bass? I don't. I don't know why my

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01:03:52,040 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 1: voice does the things it does. You I um, oh, man,

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01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 1: I just that's something. Actually, you know what. This may

1297
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:16,479
Speaker 1: not work, but this is a big dream of mine.

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01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 1: One day, whenever I have a headlining tour, I want

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01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 1: to bring bands. I don't care what I gotta pay them.

1300
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 1: That's not it's fun to say right now, but let

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01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 1: me tell you. I know, I know, I know, but

1302
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 1: I know how much opening acts get. I'm like, they

1303
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 1: would never do it, and I would pay them something

1304
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: just to have a big show, like bring I want

1305
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: Cake to play with me. I want ever Clear to

1306
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 1: play with me. I want Weezer to play with me.

1307
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 1: And if they would be willing to do it, talk

1308
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 1: about my favorite bands on purpose? Did you study Bobby's

1309
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 1: favorite music? No? I didn't study you. Um, but yeah no.

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01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 1: I just I want them to play with me because

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01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 1: they kind of raised me, you know, And I'm like,

1312
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 1: how cool would it be to go these are the

1313
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 1: people that make me who I am. Please enjoy them.

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01:04:56,840 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 1: Thank you. Whenever it was like three weeks ago, Oh,

1315
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a good one because I can

1316
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 1: actually turn it into a story about you. Um. About

1317
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 1: three weeks ago, I go to City Winery because Art

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01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: alexis lever of ever Claier was playing, and he was

1319
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 1: playing with the leads lead singer of Eve six and

1320
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 1: the lead singer of Fountains of Wayne and the lead

1321
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 1: singer of Marcy Playground. What was this four? No, there

1322
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 1: was their tour. It was these four lead singers and

1323
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 1: they would each go up and play, and Art Alexis

1324
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 1: because I was a big Ever Claire fan, and they

1325
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 1: eached the thirty minutes twenty to thirty minutes and Art

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01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 1: Alexis goes on and I've seen him with with this

1327
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 1: full band ever Clip before a few times and it

1328
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 1: wasn't that great because he was trying to sing over

1329
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 1: the band. It was fantastic when he's by himself because

1330
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 1: he could hear it is because he can sing quieter.

1331
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 1: And my favorite every clip song is Strawberry. And I

1332
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I don't know if he's gonna if

1333
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 1: he's gonna play Strawberry because it wasn't one of their

1334
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 1: bigger hits. And he goes on and he freaking play

1335
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 1: Strawberry and I was like, well, this is fantastic. And

1336
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 1: and he's telling these stories like a songwriter around but

1337
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 1: with these big um nineties alternative guys, and he was

1338
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 1: like in art Alexas he has MS. I had no idea.

1339
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 1: I didn't know that either, and he's he maybe sixty

1340
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 1: years old now or close to it, but that that

1341
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 1: was here's my the story here. And you could play

1342
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 1: a strawberry from every clar Mike do if you have

1343
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 1: it over there. It was the same stage that I

1344
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 1: first saw you play. It's City Winery. Because I was

1345
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 1: only told your manager, who I just love so much,

1346
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 1: Mary Hilliar. If you're listening to this, you probably are.

1347
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 1: I just love her. She's probably listening to make sure

1348
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 1: I don't talk about like anything bad. Listen. I just,

1349
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 1: I just and I trust. She's one of the few

1350
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:42,479
Speaker 1: people that I will if she says hey, because sometimes

1351
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 1: it will be people not even she's not involved in Hey,

1352
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 1: this person is good listen to them. And only have

1353
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 1: a couple people in my life at all trust and good.

1354
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 1: And she was like, I got this girl. She was like,

1355
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 1: she's real good. And this is before you had anything

1356
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 1: anything out, is way before you had anything out or

1357
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 1: before you were started to be whispered about. She was like, man,

1358
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 1: she's gonna be so good, like she's already good. And

1359
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I believe you, and when there's

1360
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 1: an appropriate time, I'm gonna go watch you had Nothing

1361
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 1: Out And I go to the Girls of Nashville show

1362
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 1: because I'm friends with Caitlin and Heather Morgan. Yeah, and

1363
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 1: so um, I think some Caitlin lyrics where she wrote

1364
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 1: and didn't you have a thing. So I'm just big

1365
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 1: fans of them. And you were playing too, and I've

1366
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 1: had forgotten and I was sitting with Mary Hilliard and

1367
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 1: I'd forgotten initially upon going and think telling Heather I

1368
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 1: was gonna come that you were playing, and I was like, oh, well,

1369
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 1: let's just see with this girl about come on, here

1370
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 1: she is and you went up and you crushed it. Yeah,

1371
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 1: oh god, I didn't know you were going to be there.

1372
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 1: I don't because I sing my pop stuff. But I

1373
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 1: never got to play it. I don't announce that here comments.

1374
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 1: They don't. They just go and try to chill and

1375
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 1: just sit with the presence is required. So but it

1376
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 1: was so good and I was and I after you played,

1377
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 1: I left and I was like, well good enough for me,

1378
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 1: Like that was awesome, Like I'm a fan, and I

1379
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 1: watched it and then when I was picking my class

1380
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 1: of nineteen which just means, you know, the ways of

1381
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 1: supporting other than just like because I can't play songs

1382
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 1: all day on the radio, but I can do things

1383
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 1: like put you on a morning show, put you on

1384
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 1: the podcast I can. I can play play your songs

1385
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 1: on the female show. Songs aren't your single, you know,

1386
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 1: like when I was talking about just friends, there are

1387
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,640
Speaker 1: different ways. Um, we have a show in town, I

1388
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 1: can tweet about you. I can like the video that

1389
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 1: we did here. You know. There are a lot of

1390
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:33,600
Speaker 1: ways that I feel like I can help out with

1391
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 1: the exposure. And before you ever had a song out,

1392
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna put you in the first

1393
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 1: person I've ever done that with who didn't have a

1394
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 1: song out. And I was like, I'm gonna put you

1395
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 1: in the class because I've done it for five or

1396
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 1: six years now, and so I was such a big fan.

1397
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 1: And Smash cut yesterday. We're dancing outside of my backyard

1398
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 1: to this song right here. Okay, Loki, my legs are

1399
01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 1: sort of day. Yeah, I ride the bike so much

1400
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 1: at my legs are pretty good. Oh yeah, well you're

1401
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:05,560
Speaker 1: just like squatting the whole time. I feel like I'm like,

1402
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 1: I'm like I gotta get down there too, or it

1403
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 1: looks bad, but you have fluid in you. Like my

1404
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 1: struggle the whole time on the dance show was it

1405
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 1: took me two or three days to even I feel

1406
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 1: comfortable enough to really try, and so I gotta I

1407
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 1: practice all the moves in the hotel because I've been

1408
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 1: in New York all week until like I literally just

1409
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 1: got in whenever you know, Blanco and you and everybody

1410
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 1: in the backyard, and I was like, all right, I

1411
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:31,680
Speaker 1: can do this, and so but it took me four

1412
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 1: or five times even feel comfortable to try, and you

1413
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 1: over here just grinding it down, and I'm like, I

1414
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 1: wish I just had Kaylee's confidence. Well I knew I

1415
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 1: was gonna look stupid, so I was like, you just

1416
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 1: have to own it, you know what I mean? Like

1417
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 1: if Bill Murray walked around and did all the things

1418
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 1: he did and he's like, oh, I'm so sorry I

1419
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 1: did that, it wouldn't be funny or like cool. But

1420
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:54,480
Speaker 1: he just does all these weirdly awkward things so confidently.

1421
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 1: Have you seen the Bill Murray documentary' Oh you'd love it.

1422
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 1: It's I forget what it's you know, what's going I

1423
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 1: don't know. You haven't seen it. It's about all the

1424
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 1: weird things he does and people. It's on Netflix, and

1425
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 1: so it's a documentary this guy made. He's trying to

1426
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:11,600
Speaker 1: find him because you can't find Bill Murray. Yeah, he

1427
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 1: has one and he's always had and he sometimes doesn't answer.

1428
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 1: You have number, and even big directors. Everyone can only

1429
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,879
Speaker 1: call that phone. I think it's called finding Bill Murray Stories.

1430
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's so I'm gonna go get that

1431
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 1: from my flight tonight. Why are you gonna watch your phone?

1432
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 1: Can you watch you shows on your phone? Yeah? Like

1433
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 1: at you you don't. I can't see I am see.

1434
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 1: I'm so bad about I'll just pull my phone into

1435
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 1: bed and just curl up and just watch it like

1436
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,720
Speaker 1: right here. Yeah. A lot of my friends watched The

1437
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 1: Office on their phone, and I'm like, I'm so jealous.

1438
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 1: I can't see crap. And I was watching our video,

1439
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 1: our dance video because I was the guy who shot

1440
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 1: it at a great job. Yeah, and I had to

1441
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 1: take it off my phone on my computer because I

1442
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 1: just have never had good vision. I just I live

1443
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 1: with it. Well. I used to be that person that

1444
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 1: was like I have twenty at the teen vision, an

1445
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 1: extremely good vision. And now it's like I'll start reading.

1446
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 1: I love reading, but it's like the words are getting

1447
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 1: smaller every year the passes, and now I finally have

1448
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 1: reading glasses and I have to have them sometimes. Do

1449
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:16,680
Speaker 1: talk about your visions voice though? So I like that.

1450
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 1: It's good. I didn't even put it together. Dang it. Listen,

1451
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 1: we've been here and we've done that. We've gone an hour.

1452
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 1: I don't even look at the clock, Tory, and we've

1453
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 1: done an hour. It's the longest interview you've ever done

1454
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 1: at one hour on the on the nose? Are we

1455
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 1: done longer? Um? Yeah, I guess. Except the last interview, Um,

1456
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:40,600
Speaker 1: I had like five to thirty interviewers. Everyone asked me

1457
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:43,560
Speaker 1: one question on the show doesn't count. What what was

1458
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 1: that show? It was the A C. M. Lifting Lives

1459
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 1: at the Secret Studios. It was just all the kids

1460
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:51,599
Speaker 1: came up. So I did that too. Isn't that the greatest?

1461
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 1: That was? I mean, that was the perfect thing to

1462
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 1: do right before this too, because it just kind of

1463
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 1: just like it made me happy. It just looked at

1464
01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 1: my spirits and just kind of set me off to

1465
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:03,719
Speaker 1: have a good day. Hit me with some just Friends

1466
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:12,560
Speaker 1: from Kaylee Hammock please my jas. I was talking to

1467
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 1: the head of our format, same Rod Phillips. Were very

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Speaker 1: He was one of the ones that pushed me here

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Speaker 1: and then I helped him get He was working on

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Speaker 1: a national all format stage and I helped him become

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Speaker 1: the country. Guys. We definitely both put each other in

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Speaker 1: our places here in a good and bad way, mostly

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Speaker 1: a great ways, like the closest to me and I

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Speaker 1: was like, dude, you gotta hear just Friends. It's not

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Speaker 1: even a single, but you And so I made him

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Speaker 1: listen to it. You know the awkward thing when you

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Speaker 1: make him listen to a song in front of you

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Speaker 1: and you have and then you just sit there and

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Speaker 1: watch them the whole time. And I did that to him.

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Speaker 1: I was like, this is the like, this is what

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Speaker 1: we're looking for, like somebody one the hook the of

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Speaker 1: course it's super catchy. It's a bit of a risk,

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Speaker 1: which is what it should be. And you're just good.

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Speaker 1: You're good. And so that's this one. Here's family tree again.

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Speaker 1: So I encourage that about this stream it download at

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Speaker 1: whatever you do is you using these days? He just

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Speaker 1: won of y YouTube though I can't keep playing whenever

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Speaker 1: you get out of the app. Oh, it does if

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Speaker 1: you get premium. Who's going to get premium though? Well

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Speaker 1: there she goes from living in the back of a

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Speaker 1: car to getting premium YouTube. I've really, I've really grown

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Speaker 1: all right, Kaylee, listen, I'm on Instagram. Is it just

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Speaker 1: it's at Kaylee Hammon at c A Y L E

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Speaker 1: E h A M M A c K. And when

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Speaker 1: I looked a minute ago, because I it was just

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Speaker 1: looking at the preview clip of our dance video, it

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Speaker 1: was at a quarter of a million of views. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I saw that. You've got like a couple of thousand. Yeah, okay, Bobby,

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Speaker 1: Look I I don't have many followers on all my

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Speaker 1: Instagram and all of that. Um, I've just kind of

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Speaker 1: kept my blinders on them, like if I make good music,

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Speaker 1: they will come. If you build it, they will come.

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Speaker 1: So that's really exciting for me. So go follow Kaylee

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Speaker 1: to hear this, and um, so glad I have friends

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Speaker 1: with a million. You may have YouTube super YouTube alright,

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Speaker 1: follow Kaylee hammay check out her music. I'm so proud

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Speaker 1: of your proud for you. I am. I'm a fan

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Speaker 1: any of impression, like any acting like the leaves with

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Speaker 1: may the luck of the iters should be with you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. All right there, episode, Thank you