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Speaker 1: The Zoom.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Ozone Podcast with Jaguars senior writer John Oser.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome into this week's ozone podcast. I'm excited

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Speaker 2: about this one. I've been hoping to talk to Jaguars

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Speaker 2: defensive greenader Ryan Nilsen I since he got here. First

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Speaker 2: of all, Ryan, I appreciate you doing this and thanks

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Speaker 2: for taking the time right now.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Why Jacksonville?

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Speaker 1: Why not?

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Speaker 3: So many good things about the place. Let's start at

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Speaker 3: the top of the owner. It's been fantastic. You hear

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Speaker 3: all the good things about everything that he's doing here

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Speaker 3: in the city, what he's done with the building, the direction.

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Speaker 1: Of the team.

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Speaker 3: You go to the head coach, what a great person.

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Speaker 3: Coach Peterson is a phenomenal, phenomenal man to myself, my family,

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Speaker 3: He's been awesome. And then Trent general manager is uh.

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Speaker 3: Love being around them, his knowledge, you know, all those things,

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Speaker 3: and so just a combination of you know, those three

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Speaker 3: people at the top, uh. And then you get into

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Speaker 3: the building. Uh, the players. Right, We've got great people

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Speaker 3: here the building in terms of the people that work

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Speaker 3: inside the building in all departments, and so it's a

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Speaker 3: it's well run and everything every every part of the

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Speaker 3: building that you go into, you feel that, you know,

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Speaker 3: we got knowledgeable people or who want to help and

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Speaker 3: be a part of a winner.

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Speaker 1: And so it's it is a great combination.

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Speaker 3: And we're just you know, we just want to do

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Speaker 3: our partner and help help continue that and and uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, make this team.

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Speaker 2: Win, gotcha. Obviously, when you are researching a job, you

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Speaker 2: look at the talent, you look at the personnel. Since

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Speaker 2: you've gotten here and sort of gotten to know the guys, uh,

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Speaker 2: good fits. I feel like the personnel matches up to

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Speaker 2: what you want to do. And obviously there's some on

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Speaker 2: you to put them in the right position.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so it's a combination.

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Speaker 3: But look when you walk in here and you look

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Speaker 3: at the defensive personnel that we have from upfront in

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Speaker 3: the back end, and we've got some good players and

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Speaker 3: so you know, our whole thing is is help those

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Speaker 3: to ten year, fifteen year vets if improvement, you know,

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Speaker 3: we want to develop. You know, we're in a profession

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Speaker 3: of development, helping these guys achieve the next step. And

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Speaker 3: so that's what that's been the main focus this offseason.

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Speaker 3: I think we've got a great defensive staff. You've got

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Speaker 3: Chris Rashard, Corey Robinson just to name a couple of

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Speaker 3: our guys, Matt House. You know, guys who've coached at

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Speaker 3: in Super Bowls and won championships and things like that,

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Speaker 3: and Bill Shuey and been part of great defenses. And

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Speaker 3: so we've got a bunch of great teachers on their

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Speaker 3: defensive staff and to help these guys, you know, take

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Speaker 3: the next step. And you know, all we're trying to

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Speaker 3: do is build the best group of players and defense

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Speaker 3: that we possibly can and win a ton of football

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Speaker 3: games along the way.

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Speaker 2: They're all important. But you mentioned Richard played with him,

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Speaker 2: which I didn't realize. Uh did you sort of know

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Speaker 2: at all when you were playing with him this guy

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Speaker 2: sort of thing. And they just tell me how important

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Speaker 2: he is to what you're going to be doing.

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Speaker 3: Sure now, at that time, you know, we thought we

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Speaker 3: and you know, and that's just how it was going

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Speaker 1: You know, that's what you wanted to do. But how

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Speaker 1: important is he? I mean, he is.

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Speaker 3: Let's let's start with this. I mean, he's a phenomenal man.

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Speaker 3: He's a great person. Uh, he cares so much, unbelievable

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Speaker 3: in terms of intelligence and the football coach. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he's he's the best, you know, and that was one

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Speaker 3: of the things, you know, bringing him here obviously our

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Speaker 2: Not that you don't have expertise there as well, but

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But I think it's it's all levels, you know,

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Speaker 3: so you know, coaching is teaching, and you want good

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Speaker 1: You know, our whole staff.

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Speaker 3: I think we've we've done a good job of bringing

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Speaker 3: we're showing that on the field right now.

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Speaker 2: Here's my million dollar question. I get so many questions

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Speaker 2: Everything I understand is that it's hard to describe your

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Speaker 1: Me, sure, I mean, look, we don't want to be

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Speaker 1: pigeonholed in terms of this is exactly what we are.

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Speaker 1: We aren't evolving, we won't be on the cutting.

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Speaker 2: Edd hard for anybody to do that this day and age, right, but.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of the goal of what we've set out

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Speaker 3: And even some things from last year are different than

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Speaker 3: at everything, and everybody had the input of of how

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Speaker 2: This is January February, March.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's the you know, and that was

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Speaker 3: We've kind of we've we've thrown it all in there,

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Speaker 2: What's the uh you know, I've gone to some players

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Speaker 2: in the last couple of weeks. The emphasis has been

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Speaker 2: on how simple you and your coaches make it seem.

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Speaker 2: What's the art of getting what's in your mind simply

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Speaker 3: Sure, it's you have to know what you're talking about, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean right, that's that's the big right right.

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Speaker 1: So uh yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: Think you know, you have to have an expertise and

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Speaker 1: And so that's a there's an art to that.

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Speaker 3: And again, you know, we've got a good group of

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Speaker 3: use these fundamentals in order to have help help them

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Speaker 3: it is it's not just hey, it's look, the scheme

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Speaker 3: And and so what we're doing is we're equipping them

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Speaker 2: I have two things written down here. One is philosophy,

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Speaker 3: Sort of philosophy. I mean, look, it's it's a you know,

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Speaker 3: you have to play shell, you have to manipulate uh

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Speaker 1: You have to be multiple in terms of pressure, to

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Speaker 3: And then you know the attacking aggressive is that's just

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Speaker 3: the you know, our you know, our aggressiveness of how

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Speaker 1: You know, we want our confidence. It's a confident thing and.

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Speaker 3: That's that has something to do to do with the knowledge.

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Speaker 3: And then in the meeting, you know, attack the meeting.

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Speaker 3: Don't just sit back and just listen, man, be active

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Speaker 3: the confidence and you you know you you you walk

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Speaker 3: goes together with the players. And but it's a constant.

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Speaker 3: It's an everyday thing. It's an everyday reminder. We don't

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Speaker 1: This is just who we are and what we believe.

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Speaker 2: So uh so much of defense is making sure players

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Speaker 2: understand it and can play fast. So there's some Hey,

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Speaker 2: we want to keep it simple when there's moving parts.

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Speaker 2: How do you keep it simple? Like I guess it's

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Speaker 2: what you said earlier. Just make sure they understand it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the knowledge, right, you don't here, align and adjust.

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Speaker 3: That's the game today. Aligning your initial alignment and then

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Speaker 3: what's our adjustment. And also when the offense moves once, twice,

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Speaker 3: three times, I mean you're getting a punch off shift

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: And so here's our initial alignment. If they do this,

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Speaker 3: here's our adjustment. And the faster and the better you

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Speaker 3: And then and then the other thing is your eyes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, people, this is audios. People can't see it, but

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, was it like? Was it sealed? Team six?

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Speaker 1: Morning should have been Cowboy with Toby Keith.

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Speaker 2: Here's the person that you wouldn't be.

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Speaker 1: Here without my father, got for sure.

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Speaker 2: Why.

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Speaker 3: A lot of life lessons, a lot of drive. There's

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Speaker 2: Got you. Now, this is the question. The entire interview

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Speaker 2: is built up. Everybody wants to know best mustache, Connor Nielsen.

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Speaker 1: Oh, no doubt, mister con not even close.

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Speaker 2: I enjoyed this so much. Thank you for joining the

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Speaker 1: Thank you for having me.

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