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Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray.

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Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff you Should Know

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Speaker 1: from house Stuff Works dot Com. Hey, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant,

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Speaker 1: and that makes this stuff you should know the podcast

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Speaker 1: as I just welcome you to. Yeah, yeah, henceforth. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not quite a sick Chuck. That's good. You've recouped. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I've been on this sum orange lemon, grapefruit juice clans

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Speaker 1: and it's helped quite a bit, helped heal you. You think,

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Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah. I mean it's just like a

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Speaker 1: jam pack dose of vitamin C every day, something on

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Speaker 1: the order of like nine nine thousand milligrams. I think,

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Speaker 1: really it could be up there event drinking a lot

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Speaker 1: Good Ardent's Garden. I take a lot of vitamins anyway, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the recommended amount. He's awesome too. Do you know Margaret

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Speaker 1: Thatcher took a B twelve shot to her bomb every day? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's popular. Yeah. Do you want to talk family crests? Okay,

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Speaker 1: have you just been waiting for me to ask that.

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Speaker 1: Typically you intro the show somehow, so just stare at me.

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Speaker 1: Have you do you have a family crest? Uh? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I've got a you know, they're all different,

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Speaker 1: but there is a Bryant Shield and I looked up

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Speaker 1: a bunch of them and they're pretty similar. So okay,

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Speaker 1: it's probably something like that, as do you. So if

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Speaker 1: you contacted a service, they would probably be like, here

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Speaker 1: you go, give us a hundred and fifty dollars, here's

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Speaker 1: your family crest. Go do whatever you want with it.

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Speaker 1: And now that we've researched this article, Chuck, we could

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Speaker 1: be like, Huck, sir, scammers. Yeah, I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to say that these services are all scams, but

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Speaker 1: there's a very high degree of potential that these services

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Speaker 1: are all scams. Do you want to know why? Let

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Speaker 1: me tell you why. Whether you want to hear it

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Speaker 1: or not, Chuck, I'm gonna give you the straight facts.

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Speaker 1: The family crest is so individualized and has been so

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Speaker 1: personalized over the last eight centuries that there's virtually no

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Speaker 1: way for you to find the family crest that you

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Speaker 1: um rightfully owned. So anybody at the mall or whatever

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Speaker 1: they have people at the mall? They really do. I've

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Speaker 1: never seen that they have kiosks at the mall that

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Speaker 1: you know. I'm sure you ran across the online. It's lousy,

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Speaker 1: like it's a kind of a sub service of genealogy

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Speaker 1: sites like find your Family Crest or whatever. Maybe I

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Speaker 1: don't go to malls. That's a problem. Um, that is

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Speaker 1: see a mal chi ask. This is why the the

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Speaker 1: economic stimulus didn't work. You don't go to malls, chuck.

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Speaker 1: I buy things online, so chuck there. This is not

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Speaker 1: to say that there is no way to possibly find

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Speaker 1: a family crest that you're linked to, or that it

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Speaker 1: just simply doesn't exist. It's just that most likely the

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Speaker 1: one you're gonna get back for a hundred bucks online

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Speaker 1: is not necessarily legitimate. There are bona fide sources, the

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Speaker 1: very people who keep authority over these things, um, that

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Speaker 1: can help you, and we'll talk about them in a minute.

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Speaker 1: But this is kind of this article turned out to

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Speaker 1: be cooler than I expected. Yeah, I'm nothing about this

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Speaker 1: same here, and now I know a lot about it

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Speaker 1: same here, and that's kind of how well, let's talk

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Speaker 1: talk about the difference. On Twitter last night, I asked

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Speaker 1: a family crest and a coat of arms? Yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: really no difference these days. I these days, yes, pretty interchangeable,

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Speaker 1: um to keep your armor from heating up in the sun. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's that's one. Another one was that the the crest

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Speaker 1: your page would announce you, your herald would announce you. Sorry. Yeah, heraldry.

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Speaker 1: umbrella name. Yeah, it's all heraldry. It's the crest, it's

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Speaker 1: the design of them, it's the registry of them. It's

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Speaker 1: the way you announced it. Like, um, when you were

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Speaker 1: And that's called blazoning. Yeah, well well we'll get into

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Speaker 1: But yeah, well, I like it basically became like your

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Speaker 1: little uh brands for your barbecue to see her into

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Speaker 1: steak with like your initials. Now, that's stupid. It's very cool.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing cool about that there, it is. There's a

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Speaker 1: I'll bet those are big sellers in Texas. Um, so

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Speaker 1: coat of Arms, and we're going to use these interchangeably agreed. Okay?

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Speaker 1: Um from what I saw, the College of Arms uh

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Speaker 1: where in the UK, UM it's the College of Arms.

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Speaker 1: And those are the best sources on the Internet for

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Speaker 1: stuff like this, by the way, Yeah, but you know

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Speaker 1: good info period. And I think it's the legit info.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of other stuff floating around out there, UM,

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Speaker 1: so check the College of Arms. UM. These heralds, they

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Speaker 1: royal families, UM. And they all banded together and formed

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Speaker 1: a corporation and was actually granted a charter in fourteen

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Speaker 1: eighty four, I think by Richard the Third UM who said,

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Speaker 1: um too. You know people who are alive today um.

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Speaker 1: And they've been doing it NonStop since fourteen eighty four. Three.

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Speaker 1: They open on Christmas, No, they have. They're open eleven

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Speaker 1: a m. To four pm. I think Monday through Thursday

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Speaker 1: is what it's called. But it's self sufficient. They they

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Speaker 1: they subsist on funds they charged for this research. Um.

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Speaker 1: They don't. They don't exist on public minds. They say, yes,

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Speaker 1: And uh, cadency you talked about every like individual like

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Speaker 1: You're gonna add an amulet to it, which is a ring.

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Speaker 1: An annulet is a ring? Yeah, annulet, that's what I

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Speaker 1: That's what I find. What is an amulet? An amulet

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Speaker 1: your you're lying back to you know where this crest

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Speaker 1: will do the research for you. Yeah. And the rules

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Speaker 1: which is a diamond shape or an oval, because shields

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Speaker 1: Scandinavian Registry, which is like all these Nordic countries except

422
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,680
Speaker 1: for the Netherlands by the way they do, but they

423
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 1: have they have, in my opinion, the coolest ones. UM.

424
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 1: You can go check it out. It's the Socitias Heraldica

425
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 1: Scana Navca is going to take you to this registry

426
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 1: UM and a lot of them were created in the seventies.

427
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 1: I guess there was a resurgence in interest in heraldry

428
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: in Scandinavia in the nineteen seventies, in Scandinavia periods in Scandinavia. UM,

429
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: if you're Irish, you want to contact the Office of

430
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 1: the Chief Herald of Ireland. Uh. Scotland again. UM the

431
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 1: lord lyon King of Arms. That guy is in charge

432
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 1: of not just registering us but also tartans um and

433
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: you have to trace your lineage back to claim a tartan.

434
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: Tart it's your you know, like um plaid, I've never

435
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: heard that one. Well, yeah, it's like kilts are different

436
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: types of plaid, like like Malcolm and black Watts and

437
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,919
Speaker 1: all that stuff. Those are clan just like a crest.

438
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 1: That pattern is um. It's associated with a specific plan.

439
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: And like you or I can't just go put on

440
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,719
Speaker 1: some kilt. We shouldn't be doing that anyway. But if

441
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: we did and we went to Scotland, they'd be like, oh,

442
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 1: you're a Malcolm, and I'd be like, well, it's my

443
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: middle name, but I don't think that's my and then

444
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 1: they just start beating me up and I wouldn't understand

445
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 1: what they were saying, but they would be beating me

446
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 1: up at the time. You just can't you just like

447
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: we can't wear a T shirt. That's like, check out

448
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 1: my family crest, even if we haven't made an official

449
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: claim to it. In the US, it's kind of willy nilling.

450
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that. In Great Britain, you can get

451
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 1: in trouble. It's basically like miss miss using a copyrighted

452
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: piece of material or trademark or something like that. Yeah,

453
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: there's laws to it. It's called bearing arms. You have

454
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: to register to bear these arms. The coat of arms.

455
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: I did not know that in America means you can

456
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 1: wave a gun around exactly. Uh so where are we

457
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: can we talk about? Where are we Pistians all over

458
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: the map? It really was this Uh this thing had

459
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 1: strange flow. I guess you would say it, Um, well,

460
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: you want to keep talking about, um, how you can

461
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 1: will them to people? In some countries you can't. I

462
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: didn't know that you can will them to people. UM. So,

463
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: let's say you were an American and you want your register.

464
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 1: You're a new family crest in England? Can you do that?

465
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:51,479
Speaker 1: I couldn't get a definitive answer. Possibly if you're a

466
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: fairly recent British descent, But your best bet is to

467
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 1: go to the American College of Heraldry, which is founded

468
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy two, so then went on in the

469
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: seventies UM in New Orleans, UM. And it's now a

470
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: registered corporation in Alabama somehow. But at any rate, this

471
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: is the official organization for registering in America. And all

472
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: of them are new. All the the ones that they

473
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 1: register are new. Yeah, they don't. They don't track back

474
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 1: because that's just not how it's done in America. There's

475
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: no nobility, there's nothing like that. UM. So it's like

476
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: you create your own and register it and started there.

477
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: Oh that sounds like something that's worthwhile. Yeah, if you're

478
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: into that, I'm into it. Now are you gonna do it?

479
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 1: I think so good. All right, let's talk about blazoning,

480
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:47,719
Speaker 1: which we mentioned earlier. Blazing is the description of the

481
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: coat of arms UM. And it's really specific and it's

482
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: got its own language and syntax and which is all

483
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,719
Speaker 1: over the map. Well not really, it's actually really like

484
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 1: if you can read it, then it's that's the point

485
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 1: is it's not all over the map. Because what you

486
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: want to do is you want to be able to

487
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 1: hand your blazon over to an artist and not say

488
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: what I'm looking for is this. You just hand it

489
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: over and they look at that and they know exactly

490
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: where everything goes. So it is the description of what

491
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 1: it looks like without having to put I'd like this

492
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: lion to be this color, and move him over here

493
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: a little bit and put him on the left and

494
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 1: him on the right, dexter and sinister exactly. So, Um,

495
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 1: the rules are sort of an overview. Um, you begin

496
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: by describing the field, which he said was the background.

497
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: It's usually just a color that you're gonna say, and

498
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: this is of the shield, right, Uh, this is of

499
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: the whole coat of arms. So you begin by describing

500
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: the field which is of the shield. And um, if

501
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: it's a complex field, though, you know, you've got to

502
00:28:55,720 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: describe the variation after the color, like red, checker or

503
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: checkered red and white. Uh. And you can't just say

504
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: that it's like in a different language to which will

505
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: go over. Um. If the shield is divided, you gotta

506
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: describe how it's divided with its quartered or halved. And

507
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: if it's horizontal or vertical, you gotta describe the colors

508
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: of each sub field and use words like dexter and

509
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,239
Speaker 1: chief which means the top, and sinister and they know

510
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: what all this means because they're really smart. Uh. The

511
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: principal charge, which is anything you see on your coat

512
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: of arms, like a tree or a flower, is a charge. Uh.

513
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: Basically any emblem, you gotta describe that next, and the

514
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: color h then the charge. Anything that's around the charge,

515
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: like if you're lion is holding a thing of arrows

516
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: or a thing of daisies, you've gotta describe that or

517
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: spitting those errors out of his mouth exactly. Um, then

518
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: you have to describe. You do the panels one panel

519
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: at a time. If your shield has many panels, you

520
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: gotta go from left, top to bottom and left to

521
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: right as if you're reading. And all this is done

522
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: basically so they know exactly what to do, and you

523
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: have license after that to draw it however you want.

524
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: So oh like what like like this is what? Yeah,

525
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: exactly and as long as you get all the components right,

526
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: then that's legit. It can be drawn a number of

527
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: ways and it doesn't matter. What about like anime, you

528
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: could do anime, I guess uh. And a lot of

529
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: it's in French because um, a lot of the English

530
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: clerks wrote in French at the time that this was

531
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: was big, and we did mention the animals, and I said,

532
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: rampant means standing on their legs. Rampant garden because when

533
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: you're standing on your legs and facing the person or

534
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: whoever is looking at it. Passent means you're walking. Sagent

535
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: means you're sitting in couch. It means you're lying down.

536
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: I thought that was kind of funny. Gets you're on

537
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: the couch just hanging out. So here's one of example.

538
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: I'm looking at a shield that has a tree. It's

539
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: split down the middle green on one side, white on

540
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: the other, and then the against the white background. The

541
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: tree is green against the green background. The tree is white,

542
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: and it's uprooted. You see the roots of the tree.

543
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: So the way this is described, it's party per pale, argent, invert,

544
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: a tree, eradicated, counter changed. Yes, So whoever does this

545
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: reads that and they say, oh, I know that means

546
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: parted means it's divided, and half pale means it's split vertically, argent,

547
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: invert means silver and green, and an eradicated means the

548
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: tree is pulled up by the roots. And counter changed

549
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: is when it's you know, the white color on the

550
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: green and the green color on the white. Somehow that

551
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: makes sense. I mean, it's just like learning another language.

552
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: That's exactly what it is. And once you do, then yeah,

553
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: that's pretty cool. I tried to tre to speak in that,

554
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: like not speak. I was kind of hoping you're gonna

555
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: it in like a British accent. But once you know

556
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: enough of these words, if you see a sentence like that,

557
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: you can kind of suss it out a little bit.

558
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: So what you just did, like that's not just a

559
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: description for the artist, it's also blazoning. Is what the herald,

560
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: like Paul Bettany would have said, Is that what happens? Yeah,

561
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: I didn't see anything about that. Yeah, if that's that

562
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: was what they did, that's how they described. So if

563
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: the night pulls up with the lance, he would say party, propel,

564
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: argent and vert blah blah blah. Yes, wearing this basically,

565
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: it's almost like in this corner, wearing the black trunks

566
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: with the white trim is tyson. I wonder if they

567
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: followed it up the tree eradicated counter changed a K

568
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: A Ricky right, just to make it easier maker exactly

569
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: Ricky the widow maker? Um and uh do we say

570
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: where these came from. Where they started Europe? No, well Europe, yeah, no, Um,

571
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: it's it's either it's fully European, Western European. Either it

572
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: started in England in the the um, maybe the twelfth century,

573
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: early thirteenth century, or it came from northern Europe right

574
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: like Scandinavia and was brought down by William the Conqueror

575
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: in about the twelfth century and really took root in

576
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: England and then just kind of spread from there. But

577
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: you think of England as the heart of this, and

578
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: for good reason, and it started there, really started to

579
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: spread to the rest of Western Europe from England. Well,

580
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: and you can get beaten severely if you do it

581
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: wrong there by Scott's whereas we don't carrere by begbie Um.

582
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,959
Speaker 1: Governments a lot of times will have like uh, like

583
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: each state has a seal. The United States has the

584
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: Seal of the United States, the Great Seal of the

585
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: United States. Um, not quite the same, but sort of

586
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: the same as a coat of arms, like a lot

587
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: of states have them. I'm sorry, it's only a few

588
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: states have a coat of arms. They all have a seal,

589
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: but some have a you have them have both but

590
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: there's a difference. Yeah, a seal is what they use

591
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: on um documents, like the state seal. Uh, the heraldic device,

592
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: which is the coat of arms, represents the state itself.

593
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: I don't know technically what the difference is, although they

594
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: you know, they look different. Well, yeah, I guess the

595
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: seal of Ohio that has a bunch of wheat with

596
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: a sun on some you know, farmland that doesn't follow

597
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: the heraldic um rules. Yes, but well some of them,

598
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: like Vermont has a seal and a coat of arms,

599
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: but both contain a pine tree, a cow, and cheese

600
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: of grain, so there can be similarities. I don't know.

601
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: And Ronald Reagan's you know, a lot of presidents, most

602
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: presidents have had their coat of arms done up nicely

603
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: because their presidents, well, yeah, it's a big deal for them.

604
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: And Ronald Reagan's has a stallion, a black stallion atop

605
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: his shield with an actor's mask, the little drama mask

606
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: on the horse's chest. You know what that kind of

607
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: looks like. It looks like the the logo that Rocky

608
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: Balboa war on the back of his totally does because

609
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 1: it's yellow and black. That's totally Rocky and then there's

610
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: his shield is divided. I wish I could speak it

611
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: in blazoning terms, but his shield is divided horizontally, black

612
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: on top, yellow in the bottom, with an eagle and

613
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: a bear representing I think California. Yeah, and then fact

614
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 1: a non verba is his motto, which is deeds not words. Uh,

615
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 1: the breaking bear? That bear. Did you notice his tongue

616
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: sticking out? Um? And he's holding what's called that's a mullet? Oh,

617
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: the star on the front or business in the front,

618
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 1: party in the rear. What else you got? Um? Oh?

619
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: Actually I could read Reagan's if you want um a

620
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 1: bear rampant sable armed in languid gills, holding between its

621
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: four palls a mullet argent silver star on a chief

622
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: sable standing on a ducal coronet, or a falcon argent

623
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: armed and languid ghul's wings displayed and inverted. It's pretty interesting,

624
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: it is we now know that a silver star is

625
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: a mullet argent. Yeah, exactly. Oh, tell them about the

626
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,919
Speaker 1: Japanese thing. That's kind of well. Japan um has its

627
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: own set of family christ and actually there's about ten

628
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: thousand of them, they estimate. Um. They don't have nearly

629
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: strict standards. I read that supposedly they were originally given

630
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: out to people of Samurai class are higher. Remember Samurai

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Speaker 1: apparently that has been relaxed and over time, lots of

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Speaker 1: families have a crest called a man show or a

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Speaker 1: car what is it? Man show? Or come on or

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Speaker 1: mon poor poor porter um And like a number of

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Speaker 1: different families can have the same crest, right, and they

637
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Speaker 1: use theirs on their tombstones too, right, Yeah, that's a

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Speaker 1: good way if you're of Japanese relatively recent Japanese descent. Um,

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Speaker 1: if you can get a picture of your grandparents tombstone,

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Speaker 1: or ask your grandparents, um, if they're still living, they

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Speaker 1: should be able to tell you what your family crest is.

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Speaker 1: But usually they're um circular, compact kind of geometrical representations

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Speaker 1: of things like flowers or leaves or bells or something

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Speaker 1: like that. And there's times, I mean I looked up

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Speaker 1: lists of coats of arms and it's like every country

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Speaker 1: and even cities and states and people, and I had

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Speaker 1: no idea what people with that into it? To be honest,

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Speaker 1: do you mean I are going to make ours. I

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Speaker 1: think Harold Harold R. Harold Harold E. Yeah, I wonder, Uh,

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Speaker 1: Emily's Sinabogan boy that be German, big time German or Dutch?

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Speaker 1: Sounds Dutch to me. I don't know she German, but

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. Maybe further back it was

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Speaker 1: duch he knows. Do you know who knows thee of heraldry? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Or the German version of it? What do you got

655
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Speaker 1: to plunk down for that? Any idea? I don't I know?

656
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Speaker 1: To find your families? Um uh mansho is a hundred bucks.

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Speaker 1: I found a place called christia quistia q y s

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Speaker 1: would have a mancho Yeah. Interesting, yes, but again be

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Speaker 1: wary of There are legitimate authorities that you can that

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Speaker 1: will give you the real deal info and they may

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Speaker 1: say there is no crest that you have any kind

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Speaker 1: of claim to whatsoever. And if you're American, you can

666
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Speaker 1: turn to the American Registry and be like, all right,

667
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Speaker 1: I want to start and then start right yeah, and

668
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Speaker 1: then register your own it. Even says on the on

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Speaker 1: name your heir, because that through that document they legally

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Speaker 1: are entitled to the family crest. And then they can

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Speaker 1: create a document saying this is who I'm leaving it

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Speaker 1: too as much UM. So you can start if you're American,

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Speaker 1: if you're British you can start too. I believe all

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Speaker 1: of the different countries let you start registering your own

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Speaker 1: UM like Kate Middleton um. But they're also the places

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Speaker 1: where you want to go to find if there's one

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Speaker 1: already in existence that you can claim right or that

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Speaker 1: you could add a cadence to right. Yes, and patronatal

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Speaker 1: plasma screen t exactly. I think a lot of the

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Speaker 1: family pride thing is I don't know, it doesn't seem

682
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Speaker 1: to be as big of a thing these days. Yeah,

683
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Speaker 1: it's kind of sad. Um. Yeah, I guess it is.

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Speaker 1: It's the it's kids these days, it's the it's emblematic

685
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Speaker 1: of the breakdown of society. Agreed. Okay, so that's it

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Speaker 1: for family crests a k A coats of arms a

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Speaker 1: k A held. Yes, if you want to know more

688
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Speaker 1: about it, you can well just type in family crests

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Speaker 1: on how stuff works dot com and that will give

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Speaker 1: you some pretty good background and then do a lot

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Speaker 1: more research. Yeah, you should also UM if you want

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Speaker 1: to do if you want to look for your family

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Speaker 1: crest the real thing, look for like type in France

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Speaker 1: or registering family crest in France, or registering coat of

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Speaker 1: arms in France or Germany or whatever, and it's you

696
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Speaker 1: should be able to find like the official UM government

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Speaker 1: version for that country, and it's a good place to start. Cool.

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Speaker 1: So what else you got? You got ducks, you got geese,

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Speaker 1: I think, said, I said, well, at least you don't

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Speaker 1: have geese. That's how that's worse than nothing. I think

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Speaker 1: it's kind of point. When I saw that, I definitely

702
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Speaker 1: thought it was pretty funny. And also, my last name

703
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Speaker 1: Clark is a variation of clerk, which means I come

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Speaker 1: from a long line of pencil pushers and look at you.

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Speaker 1: I thrived My family thrives in cubicles. He probably had

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Speaker 1: an E on the end of that. At some point too,

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Speaker 1: write yes or it meant cleric, which I find doubtful,

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Speaker 1: you think. Yeah, Well, at some point in the last

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Speaker 1: like minute and a half, I said handy search bar,

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Speaker 1: which means it's time Chuck for a listener mail. That's right.

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Speaker 1: You know, my dad claims he traced our family back

712
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Speaker 1: to the Vikings. He told he told me that like

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Speaker 1: a month ago, because I remember he had traced our

714
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Speaker 1: family tree back pretty well. I said, how far did

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Speaker 1: you get he went to the Vikings? I went really?

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Speaker 1: He meant, like, um oh, I wish I knew some

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Speaker 1: Viking football players and Randy Moss. Yeah, sure, he traced Victory.

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Speaker 1: All right, listener mail today. This is actually Facebook gaming

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Speaker 1: the heart of the beautiful young teacher. So we got

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Speaker 1: That sounds almost like two moon junction or console trigger.

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Speaker 1: David Robinson Learning to Live. Chris Crawford gave us erecting hope.

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Speaker 1: Bryce four walls, one roof, endless hope. And then there

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Speaker 1: were some funny ones. Drew Chandler. His title is this

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Speaker 1: one room Schoolhouse, is a metaphor. Jimmy Raby Colford hers

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Speaker 1: was Smickey what sm like? That's the carpenter's name. I

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