Speaker 1: Misspelling with Tori Spelling and iHeartRadio Podcast.
Speaker 2: Hi, what's up? How are you? I'm well?
Speaker 1: Wow, silver Fox.
Speaker 2: It's been a few decades of that, I know, but
Speaker 2: you wear it well. Thanks. I can't believe we've never met.
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you had we ever met? Nope,
Speaker 1: I feel like I've seen you before. But I was
Speaker 1: intimidated of you.
Speaker 2: Intimidated Why you knows? Isn't that we weird? It's weird.
Speaker 2: It's been purfost Chris Smith. You're intimidating. I guess. I
Speaker 2: don't think. Proved me wrong. Regular guy, super easy. You'll
Speaker 2: see you fish a little bit. Yeah, it's a little
Speaker 2: tough here in California. Didn't see that question. I did
Speaker 2: not see that. That's actually the first where'd you get that?
Speaker 2: I was stalking your Instagram? Oh yeah, I went way back.
Speaker 2: I did a lot of fishing with my dad back
Speaker 2: in the day, but not too much anymore. I did
Speaker 2: have a place in Park City, which I sold a
Speaker 2: few years back, so I did a lot of fishing
Speaker 2: out there. But you know, California, I'm on the central
Speaker 2: coast and there's not a ton of fishing. I've been
Speaker 2: doing a lot of clamming. Actually, I want to clam
Speaker 2: It is really fun.
Speaker 1: I've always wanted to do that. Yeah, and throw a
Speaker 1: big clam bake.
Speaker 2: We got because you know Pismo Beaches. I'm in that area.
Speaker 2: Pismo Beach clams are like like bit. You can't even
Speaker 2: take it off the beach if it's for under four
Speaker 2: and a half inches point to point, which is a huge.
Speaker 1: A four and a half inch clam.
Speaker 2: Huge, And you can take ten of them a day.
Speaker 2: It's like that, baby's up. You make some chowder, you
Speaker 2: make whatever, some linguini clam sauce.
Speaker 1: What now you're speaking my language?
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, Tori. I got this. I bought this.
Speaker 2: It's a Winnebeg of Solace. It's a van, but it's
Speaker 2: it's an RV and I drive it right out onto
Speaker 2: the sand on Pismo Beach because you can drive your
Speaker 2: cars there. I set up my RV. I got my
Speaker 2: home on the beach. I walk right out the front
Speaker 2: door into the water and I'm clamming and it's fantastic.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: Are you trying to turn me on?
Speaker 2: Kind of? Okay?
Speaker 1: Done? Wow? So my kids just my flushing. My kids
Speaker 1: recently just got into fishing, and I used to fish
Speaker 1: with my dad when I was young, but I'm very rusty.
Speaker 1: I'm a single mom, so I decided to go on
Speaker 1: this adventure of fishing with them, and I suck.
Speaker 2: So I was hoping you give me some tips.
Speaker 1: But is it regular fishing or is it fun anymore?
Speaker 1: Not fly fishing? You do fly fishing? Yeah, yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I think the problem is we've been trying to fish
Speaker 1: off the shore.
Speaker 2: Okay, well that's surfishing is completely different. Oh man, that's
Speaker 2: really tough. But that's also something to do right out
Speaker 2: of the van at the van.
Speaker 1: I saw pictures of you in your van. You were
Speaker 1: vanped Wow. So we've never met, so I feel like
Speaker 1: in the early two thousands, like I saw you across
Speaker 1: the room, but I was always.
Speaker 2: Like, I don't know. I think you're right, and I
Speaker 2: do remember that we just have never actually mad. But yeah,
Speaker 2: we've been in the same room.
Speaker 1: Before, definitely, And I know everybody else in Dawson's Creek
Speaker 1: except you. But today's the day.
Speaker 2: Today's the day, and here we are better late than never.
Speaker 1: I know. Oh my gosh. So I feel like we
Speaker 1: have a lot in common.
Speaker 2: Talk to me, what do you No, that was just
Speaker 2: my segue into Dawson's Creek.
Speaker 1: Did I do well?
Speaker 2: Okaye?
Speaker 1: So you came on second season?
Speaker 2: Yeah, episode two oh two or three somewhere around there.
Speaker 1: Wow, good memory.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Did you feel like it was intimidating to walk onto
Speaker 1: that set?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean yeah it was. I mean they had
Speaker 2: done you remember it. It was a the first season
Speaker 2: was a mid season replacement, so they had only really
Speaker 2: done thirteen episodes, which is, you know, half the season.
Speaker 1: I didn't remember that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what did they replace? I don't remember, and not
Speaker 2: nobody can remember, really everybody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you should ask chat gept they know everything.
Speaker 2: Actually, that's not a bad idea. I should do that.
Speaker 2: So you know, they had done these thirteen episodes and
Speaker 2: then you took the summer off, and you know, between
Speaker 2: that last episode and the summer, those four became absolutely
Speaker 2: ridiculously popular. In fact, I remember my first day meeting Josh.
Speaker 2: He goes, hey, Josh Jackson, your life is about to change,
Speaker 2: all right, great, and it was. He was right. A
Speaker 2: couple of months later, it was complete chaos. You couldn't
Speaker 2: even do anything, as you you know, are familiar with.
Speaker 2: But it was intimidating. I mean those four were already
Speaker 2: you know, friends and had things gone and Meredith Monroe
Speaker 2: and I came in at the same time as the McPhee's,
Speaker 2: and but they were super, super friendly. I mean, it
Speaker 2: was just so easy. I don't know I've ever been
Speaker 2: to Wilmington, North Carolina, where we shot. I have it is.
Speaker 2: I have literally been trying to recreate that experience my
Speaker 2: entire career and have not been able to do it.
Speaker 2: We would play every weekend out on the boats, barbecuing,
Speaker 2: drinking beers, you know, boating and jet skis and it
Speaker 2: was just it's just a magical time. It was like
Speaker 2: because you know you guys, you guys shot in like
Speaker 2: you were in.
Speaker 1: The valley right in Van Eyes in a warehouses.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been this magical. I've been to that studio.
Speaker 2: So in Wilmington, it's like you're you're on a you're
Speaker 2: in camp. It's like you're in this little bubble. You're
Speaker 2: outside of Hollywood. You don't have no idea what's going
Speaker 2: on outside of your little universe there. And it's awesome.
Speaker 2: Just I can't say no, it's awesome.
Speaker 1: When you got cast in Dawson's, where were you living.
Speaker 2: I had just moved. I was in New York actor
Speaker 2: for a few years, and then I had moved out
Speaker 2: to Los Angeles in the summer of early summer of
Speaker 2: ninety eight. I'm going to tell you this story. The
Speaker 2: short answer to your question is the Venice Beach, where
Speaker 2: I spent decades. But this is a great story. So
Speaker 2: I'm in New York. I have nothing I may have.
Speaker 2: I was a contract player on a soap for a while,
Speaker 2: a couple of independents, nobody, and I'm in my U
Speaker 2: haul with my entire life packed up, four day journey
Speaker 2: across the across the country, and I spent that time
Speaker 2: thinking about what if I had my pick right now
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety eight, what would I want to do?
Speaker 2: And I was watching Party five, so I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: that would be a great show to be on. But
Speaker 2: they were kind of, you know, towards the end of
Speaker 2: their run, but it was still a good pick. And
Speaker 2: then there was this other show that I'd seen the pilot,
Speaker 2: where this cute girl's climbing up this ladder into this
Speaker 2: dude's room, and I'm like, when I watched it, I said,
Speaker 2: this thing's going to be an absolute hit. Turned out
Speaker 2: that it ended up being a hit, and so it
Speaker 2: was Party five in Dawson's Creek. Those are the two
Speaker 2: that I obsessed about on that four day drive I
Speaker 2: get to I pull onto Venice Beach. My very first
Speaker 2: audition is with Party five. No, it wasn't a bit role.
Speaker 2: It was to play Neb's boyfriend. I think one of
Speaker 2: the London's ended up. Yeah, I totally screwed that other up.
Speaker 2: In fact, the casting director has been interviewed about it
Speaker 2: and he's like, it wasn't good. It's just one of
Speaker 2: those you know. It was my first really big in
Speaker 2: Los Angeles, so yeah, you know I was nervous.
Speaker 1: That's actress called that shit in the bed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I shipped the bed. Okay, we're doing that here,
Speaker 2: we're shitting the yeah. Oh yeah, anything here, okay, good.
Speaker 2: So I bucked that one up. Yeah. So basically, a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks later, I have just for your audience
Speaker 2: what everybody calls a general where you just go and
Speaker 2: you just say, hey, I'm Kerr, this is who I am.
Speaker 2: I'm new to town, blah blah blah. And it was
Speaker 2: with Kathleen Ledery, who was the head casting director of
Speaker 2: the WB back in the late nineties, and we didn't
Speaker 2: talk about anything other than, yeah, I'm living in Venice Beach.
Speaker 2: I bought this crappy car. You know, I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: see if I can make do. And thirty minutes go
Speaker 2: by and she goes, Okay, well thanks, and I'm walking
Speaker 2: out waiting for the door to hit me on the ass,
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking I'm never going to hear from her again.
Speaker 2: She goes kerr. She stops him. She goes, Kurt, I
Speaker 2: don't know what it is, but I'm going to find
Speaker 2: a place for you on our network. And I went,
Speaker 2: oh my god. Cut to five auditions later, in like
Speaker 2: a month, I'm on Dawson's my first. I mean, think
Speaker 2: about that for a second today. Those two things that
Speaker 2: I obsessed about for four days are the first two
Speaker 2: things that happen.
Speaker 1: Literally manifested it.
Speaker 2: It's insane. Every time I tell that story, I'm just like,
Speaker 2: I just can't I can't actually believe it.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, literally wow. Most Hollywood stories don't go
Speaker 1: that way, like this Golden Child. But when you talk
Speaker 1: about that magical time and something you've been trying to
Speaker 1: recreate your whole career, I got chills when you said that,
Speaker 1: because I feel the same about nine O two and zero,
Speaker 1: and it's it's magic, and it's something you can't recreate, right, Like,
Speaker 1: it's just that one place in time with the right people.
Speaker 1: I mean, I wish that we had been out of
Speaker 1: LA and had the experience that you guys had. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, we bond and did all that, but we
Speaker 1: had like the outside world seething in on us in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. So it I wonder if your experience would
Speaker 1: have been different if you guys all weren't transplanted to
Speaker 1: North Carolina.
Speaker 2: I think so. I think we probably would have gotten
Speaker 2: in more trouble than we did in LA because we
Speaker 2: were kind of under a tight leash there, and you know,
Speaker 2: everybody took care of us. We were all pretty young too, well.
Speaker 2: I was twenty seven, twenty eight, but everybody else was,
Speaker 2: you know, no more than twenty. Michelle was fifteen when
Speaker 2: she started.
Speaker 1: And you guys didn't get into any trouble. Well, I
Speaker 1: feel like like we're the like the salacious cast, and
Speaker 1: you guys are like the conservative, like do good cast.
Speaker 2: We we all got along, we didn't get into too
Speaker 2: much trouble. Trouble. There were a couple of issues that
Speaker 2: we definitely don't need to talk about. But you know,
Speaker 2: it was yeah, it wasn't. There wasn't a lot of
Speaker 2: drama on Dawson's Creek.
Speaker 1: Is the romance behind the scenes.
Speaker 2: There was a little bit of romance before I got there.
Speaker 1: But before you got there, oh right, the one we
Speaker 1: all knew about it.
Speaker 2: Okay, but it's about that's it.
Speaker 1: It stops there.
Speaker 2: I know it caught. You know, that little romance cast
Speaker 2: some ripples over the years. But other than that, that's
Speaker 2: that was it.
Speaker 1: You guys were just with each other, nobody else under
Speaker 1: tight leash. There was no one else to date.
Speaker 2: Well, there was an entire town to date. Oh how
Speaker 2: did that go? Because all right, I had a girlfriend.
Speaker 2: So when I moved across the country, I had my
Speaker 2: girlfriend in the van with me.
Speaker 1: And uh, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: So for the first couple of years, yeah, I was,
Speaker 2: I was tied down in Dawson's and I found what
Speaker 2: in the hell am I doing? So then I became
Speaker 2: untied and uh, you know.
Speaker 1: And then and then North Carolina was your clam.
Speaker 2: I got yeah, all right, sure, sure, what is your name?
Speaker 2: Like on a plaque somewhere there. God, I hope not. Bench.
Speaker 2: I hope not. That's a deaf possibility. Yeah, never been back.
Speaker 2: I really really want to what I've never had a reason.
Speaker 2: I've come close a couple of times, but yeah, I
Speaker 2: really want to get back. I keep telling Kevin Williamson
Speaker 2: I want to do his new show Waterfront, because they're
Speaker 2: filming there. You know, I worked watched the first couple
Speaker 2: episodes and I'm like, oh, yeah, that's that. Oh I
Speaker 2: remember that. I remember that. It's just so does it
Speaker 2: look different? I don't go back? So fun?
Speaker 1: Oh my wa uh that's a reality show. By the way,
Speaker 1: what that going back? You've never been back?
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, I would rather lose you to nonscripted. I would.
Speaker 2: I would rather do that without a camera following me around.
Speaker 1: What's the point then with you? I think that would
Speaker 1: be so fun. Okay, do you do it first without
Speaker 1: the cameras and then for fans to be able to see.
Speaker 2: Man, it's an idea. Okay, I'm a person. Weren't you
Speaker 2: supposed to be in? Yes? Roleig Miami. Maybe one of
Speaker 2: those cons. I'm jumping the gun here. Most of you
Speaker 2: canceled or something didn't you forget there.
Speaker 1: Was a work conflict and I had to cancel it
Speaker 1: was Raley Nolly.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, these conventions are wild.
Speaker 2: I'm really just getting into them, like the last year. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I've only been doing it for like three years, and
Speaker 2: i fought it for a while and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know what, I'll give it, ah. And it's actually
Speaker 2: pretty fun. I've gotten to know like a lot of people,
Speaker 2: like you know, I got to know Brian a little bit,
Speaker 2: and uh, I mean just a ton of people that
Speaker 2: I've never met before that I should have.
Speaker 1: Same And I mean I love the experience with the fans.
Speaker 1: Of course, I am grateful for my fans, and it's
Speaker 1: so nice to see them all. It is exhausting, yeah,
Speaker 1: the whole experience because I I'm sure you as well
Speaker 1: want to give your everything to your fans and then
Speaker 1: like at the end of the day, there's nothing left
Speaker 1: except all the celebrities go back to their hotel and
Speaker 1: there's a bar and so we always like get together
Speaker 1: at the bar. And I am going through this whole
Speaker 1: thing too, where I'm meeting people that I never met
Speaker 1: in the late nineties and early two thousands, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, and we all have like similar stories
Speaker 1: and a connection in a way that others can't connect to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty cool. It's pretty cool to walk back
Speaker 2: into the green room and it's like, oh, there's the
Speaker 2: nine O two one oh table sitting at the Boston's
Speaker 2: Streek Table and it's just it's crazy. Okay. What's even
Speaker 2: wilder than the cons that you guys do are the
Speaker 2: because I do some of the horror ones as well
Speaker 2: from you for Final Destination and my Bloody Valentine. Those
Speaker 2: are crazy because every third person is walking around in
Speaker 2: full blown cosplay and it's gross, really well done, but
Speaker 2: it just looks it's just free. It's free well because
Speaker 2: you know, it's like Freddy or Jason or you know,
Speaker 2: just to give some of the obvious examples, but some
Speaker 2: people come up with some really nice costumes, which is
Speaker 2: blowing the door and skin's hanging off and they're walking
Speaker 2: up to your table asking for an autograph, and I'm going,
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. The clowns. Clowns scare the hell
Speaker 2: out of me, especially Bloody and stuff. There's a lot
Speaker 2: of plans then I'm a big fan of I can't
Speaker 2: remember his name now, he's a sweet guy. But no,
Speaker 2: I had not seen Terrifier.
Speaker 1: Who's the lead, David David?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm going to interview him. I'm so psyched.
Speaker 2: Oh it's great. He's such a nice guy.
Speaker 1: Wait, so do you not like horror films?
Speaker 2: I do like horror films. I'm like old school, you know,
Speaker 2: like The Thing and the Beast Within and Love. Iathon
Speaker 2: if that's a horror film, but old school stuff, eighty stuff.
Speaker 1: Some talking yes, wow, beating myself. No, those are classics.
Speaker 1: Those are great, a very specific horror genre. Okay, so
Speaker 1: I mean you brought it up.
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 1: So I've been controlling myself because I'm huge horror fanatic.
Speaker 1: And while people adored you as Jack McPhee on Dawson's Creek,
Speaker 1: I'm a Carter fan. So yeah, Final Destination was my everything.
Speaker 1: So see now I'm like gonna start to turn into
Speaker 1: a fan girl here.
Speaker 2: Sorry. Did you see the new one? Yeah? Be there.
Speaker 1: So on my birthday, that's all I wanted to do
Speaker 1: was watch the new Final Destination. So I went with
Speaker 1: my kids because I'm a super dork and have no
Speaker 1: plans on my birthday, but very excited and they liked it.
Speaker 1: Of course for me, there were some nice Easter eggs
Speaker 1: in there, so I appreciated that.
Speaker 2: I liked it. Yeah, just liked it. I haven't seen
Speaker 2: it yet, but I've been hearing really good things. It
Speaker 2: doesn't It goes back in time a little bit and
Speaker 2: it kind of explains the whole scenario as to why
Speaker 2: it is and what it is. Kind of don't don't
Speaker 2: blow it for me, but something along those lines.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, it's the type of thing
Speaker 1: you could watch it.
Speaker 2: Like.
Speaker 1: My kids had never seen Final Destination, which I was like, what,
Speaker 1: And if you are a fan, I have seen all
Speaker 1: of them, you're like, oh my god and just waiting
Speaker 1: for things to happen and you're like, oh yeah.
Speaker 2: So it was nice.
Speaker 1: But we came home and I was like, I'm sorry
Speaker 1: I missed this phase in your life. How did I
Speaker 1: not show you Final Destination? So we came home and
Speaker 1: watched the original and they were hooked, and I was nervous.
Speaker 1: It was almost like it was my movie. I was
Speaker 1: showing it to them and like, is this going to
Speaker 1: stand up?
Speaker 2: You know? Kids are so like they want instant.
Speaker 1: Gratification, Like are they going to be able to keep
Speaker 1: up with it, and it's you know, is it dated?
Speaker 1: And it wasn't it? So holds up and the freak
Speaker 1: out that I interviewed you today. So I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: to take a selfie with you so you can start
Speaker 1: with personal pleasure later.
Speaker 2: You can start. Have you seen them all all? Six? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, you're a fan?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, such a huge fan. What was that experience?
Speaker 2: Like, I mean, you know, when we did ours, it
Speaker 2: wasn't a hit, so I mean it was like, we're
Speaker 2: just making a movie and it was actually called Flight
Speaker 2: one eighty at the time. And I remember talking to
Speaker 2: one of the producers when we were filming up on
Speaker 2: the Vancouver Airport. I was like, flight one eighty really
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, I know, we got we gotta figure
Speaker 2: that out. And then two weeks later he's like, kur,
Speaker 2: I got it final destination. Like oh my god. Yeah.
Speaker 2: That was the first time I was like, okay, this
Speaker 2: has potential now. And then there was a I remember
Speaker 2: one talk that I had with one of the producers
Speaker 2: and it was again at the Vancouver airport and he
Speaker 2: was saying, I don't know if you know this, but
Speaker 2: take a look at the jetway right, and I'm six
Speaker 2: feet tall, so I entered the jetway and it's like six'.
Speaker 2: Two there's plenty of. Headroom but as you walk down the,
Speaker 2: jetway they made this. Thing it's like an inch over
Speaker 2: my head at the at the other. End so they
Speaker 2: skewed sets for. You didn't tell, anybody just so your brain,
Speaker 2: goes something's gonna, happen something's off. Here it was THEN
Speaker 2: i realized that we're making something. Special these guys really
Speaker 2: put a lot of thought into. This Even Chad danella's.
Speaker 2: Death what's his character? NAME i can't. Remember alex's best. Friend,
Speaker 2: Sure i'm like you, anyway he's the one that dies
Speaker 2: in the bathroom with them the. Tiles if you look
Speaker 2: at the, tiles they're not they're not ninety. Degrees, again it's.
Speaker 2: Skewed so it's. Interesting stuff like like that that just
Speaker 2: kind of makes your brain, go, hmmm something's. Weird oh, my,
Speaker 2: GOSH i didn't.
Speaker 1: Know oh, my that makes me very very. Excited AND
Speaker 1: i feel, like you, know because horror through the decades in,
Speaker 1: there like it comes and goes, right ebbs and. Flows
Speaker 1: people are into, it horrors. Out even THOUGH i feel
Speaker 1: like now war is here to. Stay there was definitely
Speaker 1: a period in. Art you're probably younger.
Speaker 2: Than, me but, like are actually. Older you're.
Speaker 1: Older how do you? Know did you google?
Speaker 2: ME i love your? Hoop, Yeah i'm fifty. Three what
Speaker 2: were your?
Speaker 1: Thoughts we? Looking that's a fair, question.
Speaker 2: It's a fair. QUESTION i was just making sure THAT
Speaker 2: i was well versed in. You just just to do my.
Speaker 2: Homework oh, boy don't go too far. Back clean to. Google,
Speaker 2: great you know my? Age so we googled each? Other, Right,
Speaker 2: no BUT i went down your instagram.
Speaker 1: Hole oh, YEAH i like the raw all of Your.
Speaker 1: INSTAGRAM i am so bad at social.
Speaker 2: Media i'm never. ON i don't do. IT i just.
Speaker 2: REFUSE i do it every once in a while WHEN
Speaker 2: i have, to and it's just not my thing and it's,
Speaker 2: unfortunate but that is what it.
Speaker 1: Is so my kid was, helping my teenager was helping
Speaker 1: me set up and he came over AND i had
Speaker 1: everything up on my desk and my.
Speaker 2: PHONE i had on Your instagram and he goes sixty
Speaker 2: nine AND i was, LIKE i don't even know what
Speaker 2: you're talking.
Speaker 1: About AND i, realized you have like sixty nine point
Speaker 1: nine thousand folds.
Speaker 2: Oh that's funny, abtibation.
Speaker 1: Dude so we need to get you one more follower
Speaker 1: to get off that, number unless you like.
Speaker 2: ME i like that. Number actually like sixty.
Speaker 1: Nine, okay, WELL i, KNOW i feel like we got
Speaker 1: to pump up your.
Speaker 2: Followers we. DO i would like to have like nine sixty.
Speaker 2: Nine that would be. Sweet this is. Doable why don't
Speaker 2: you help me? Out do? It? Look, yeah help you
Speaker 2: help me?
Speaker 1: Out CAN i help? You I'm i've done all my
Speaker 1: social media from the beginning. Myself i'm proud of. IT
Speaker 1: i can't get off one point eight.
Speaker 2: Million oh oh, oh that's so.
Speaker 1: TERRIBLE i, know BUT i hear that two millions of
Speaker 1: the sweet.
Speaker 2: SPOT i wish nine thousands the sweet.
Speaker 1: SPOT i sure it, is but it's. YEAH i. KNOW
Speaker 1: i you're very adorable promoting the, conventions BUT i want
Speaker 1: to see more.
Speaker 2: Of, you like in your. LIFE i.
Speaker 1: Know i'm giving you a social media course right.
Speaker 2: Now IT'S i appreciate. It it's just so hard to
Speaker 2: think that to do, that because you, know then you
Speaker 2: gotta you're actually taking pictures, yourself which AM i going
Speaker 2: to do? THAT i don't Think i'm going to do.
Speaker 2: THAT i don't. Know maybe one of these DAYS i
Speaker 2: will start to apply myself in the social media. Area.
Speaker 1: Maybe, Yeah, NO i feel. YOU i feel really awkward
Speaker 1: taking pictures in my self, too and THEN i have
Speaker 1: to ask my kids to do, it and then they
Speaker 1: don't want to do, it so THEN i don't, post
Speaker 1: and it's likely. Downfall it's like a domino.
Speaker 2: Effect will you post something and boost me? Up because
Speaker 2: if you post something and link me into, it, however
Speaker 2: whatever that, is that will.
Speaker 1: Help, Yes i'm going to post this episode And i'm
Speaker 1: going to ask you to collaborate with me on this.
Speaker 2: Episode, okay all, RIGHT i will do that.
Speaker 1: And you're going to accept that if you know how
Speaker 1: to do, that. Right do you know how to do?
Speaker 3: That?
Speaker 2: NO i, don't But i'll figure it. Out.
Speaker 1: Okay can we talk about The Dawson's creek class? Reunion?
Speaker 2: Yeah of. Course AM i supposed to say fuck? CANCER f.
Speaker 1: Cancer i've been going WITH F f cancer just.
Speaker 2: To keep A. Pc but it's up to. You, no
Speaker 2: not everybody wants THE f bomb on the. Show are
Speaker 2: you judging? Me not at? ALL i would HAVE f
Speaker 2: bombs it was my.
Speaker 1: SHOW i really like That ford And i'm a good.
Speaker 2: GIRL i JUST i don't. Know, yeah before.
Speaker 1: We get to, that do you think that your character
Speaker 1: On Dawson's creek and my character on NINE o two and,
Speaker 1: zero So jack And donna would have been? Friends?
Speaker 2: ABSOLUTELY i do, Too, yeah.
Speaker 1: DEFINITELY i feel like they would have been. Besties, yeah
Speaker 1: and that's an. Observation. OBVIOUSLY i watched your show LIKE
Speaker 1: i never came to until this point in. Life WHEN
Speaker 1: i was interviewing you AND i thought about it AND
Speaker 1: i was thinking about your, Character i'm, like we would
Speaker 1: have been.
Speaker 2: Friends, yeah we would have that's. Cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay so back To Dawson's creek class. Reunion, wait
Speaker 1: so the show Is september twenty, Second, monday and it's
Speaker 1: completely sold? Out is that? Correct In New?
Speaker 2: York it's sold out in twelve. Minutes twelve minutes. Minutes
Speaker 2: it's only a thirteen hundred seat, theater but, yeah twelve minutes.
Speaker 1: In support of your Friend James vanderbeek and F. CANCER
Speaker 1: i think it's so beautiful what you guys are doing
Speaker 1: and coming together doing, it and you weren't even in the,
Speaker 1: pilot but you're reading.
Speaker 2: Different, parts like three different Parts i'm going to.
Speaker 1: Read can you say your characters in THAT i don't.
Speaker 2: KNOW i don't even know the. CHARACTER i Know, body
Speaker 2: which Was joey's brother in, law but THAT i think
Speaker 2: he has like one, scene like a couple of. Lines
Speaker 2: and THEN i think there's two teachers That i'm. PLAYING
Speaker 2: i think the biggest role is the film teacher That
Speaker 2: dawson interacts with in the. PILOT i, GOTTA i gotta
Speaker 2: watch it. AGAIN i just watched it like the other
Speaker 2: week And i've already it's already lost my. Mind. OH
Speaker 2: i got to tell you about that project, too That
Speaker 2: i've been watching a lot Of Dawson's creek this year a. Lot?
Speaker 1: Gotcha and is there any way that fans can watch?
Speaker 1: This will it stream it all after the fact or?
Speaker 2: ANYTHING i inquired about that because people were asking on
Speaker 2: My instagram PAY i checked it, out and you, know
Speaker 2: why Haven't why can't you guys last? Stream apparently it's
Speaker 2: extremely expensive to do, so and it involves getting a
Speaker 2: lot of legalities out of the, way and just didn't
Speaker 2: have the time and because it's a fundraiser or the.
Speaker 2: Money so the answer is, no they might stream everything
Speaker 2: but the reading because there's a couple other things going.
Speaker 2: On that, night but the script, ITSELF i don't think they. Can, Unfortunately.
Speaker 1: Well hopefully it'll lead to more. Stuff and what were
Speaker 1: you just about to, say there's something?
Speaker 2: Else oh, Yeah, SAM i was Watching i've been watching
Speaker 2: a lot Of dawsons because you know all about, this
Speaker 2: But i'm in the middle of writing. Book it's basically
Speaker 2: my journey Through dawson's The Dawson's creek. Years so you,
Speaker 2: Know i've been watching a lot of. Episodes i've interviewed
Speaker 2: you know how it, goes like TWENTY i think over
Speaker 2: twenty five people, now everybody on the show behind in
Speaker 2: front the, camera and it's been it's brought up a
Speaker 2: lot of old memories and you, know things THAT i
Speaker 2: haven't even thought about in, decades and it's just been
Speaker 2: really really, fun really.
Speaker 1: Fun yet through the writing, process you haven't worked.
Speaker 2: Hurt, no you mean back To. Wilmington, yeah, no that.
Speaker 1: Was the air quotes for your.
Speaker 2: Air, quotes, okay in your fake life and. Yours it's
Speaker 2: on the. Docket, ACTUALLY i do want to get down.
Speaker 2: There it's just a question to.
Speaker 1: Win And wimill has come.
Speaker 2: Out it'll be about this time next. Year oh, Awesome, yeah,
Speaker 2: yep still writing, IT i hand it In, thanksgiving and
Speaker 2: THEN i guess we've got a year of whatever happens
Speaker 2: AFTER i hand it. In you know that, Process bear
Speaker 2: AND i do you got like half the? BOOKS i?
Speaker 2: DO i?
Speaker 1: Do, Yeah it's it's a, long arduous, process but the
Speaker 1: outcome is always so. Fulfilling, Okay so we have roughly
Speaker 1: a year to really work on your social because that's
Speaker 1: when you're going to really want to get the most. Exposure,
Speaker 1: right sixty nine thousand people can see you right.
Speaker 2: Now, Well Grand central's publishing, it so they're going to
Speaker 2: help me with that whole social marketing. Thing BUT i.
Speaker 2: Helped i'll take Some, uh Then i'll Need i'll need.
Speaker 2: YOU i need help big.
Speaker 1: TIME i know it's it's early in the process, still
Speaker 1: but do you ever foresee that turning into a?
Speaker 2: Documentary there is there's A, Yeah i've actually got a
Speaker 2: meeting tomorrow about.
Speaker 1: It oh my, Gosh i'm just intuitive To Churs.
Speaker 2: Smith you did you figured that one? Out, yeah we'll.
Speaker 2: See we'll see how that one. GOES i HAVEN'T i
Speaker 2: haven't talked to these guys.
Speaker 1: Yet, okay keep me, Posted. Pale do you eat sushi too?
Speaker 2: Much?
Speaker 1: Oh? My, gosh same too.
Speaker 2: Much we have a couple of really great places around
Speaker 2: here that my wife AND i love to. Hit all.
Speaker 1: That i'm sure you're in the good.
Speaker 2: Area it's either, sushi or It's, mexican or It's. Indian
Speaker 2: that's well. ROUNDED i, mean you, KNOW i liked.
Speaker 1: Both cooker you just.
Speaker 2: Cooked I'm i'm more of the COOK i really enjoy. It.
Speaker 2: Yeah does she?
Speaker 1: Bake she.
Speaker 2: Tries she's a. Much she's better bacon THAN i. AM
Speaker 2: i cannot. Bake, yeah she'll do The she'll do the
Speaker 2: chocolate chip cookie right.
Speaker 1: Now, okay that's.
Speaker 2: NICE i have a. Neighbor, yeah she just drops stuff
Speaker 2: off all week. Long it's. Fantastic so it's LIKE i
Speaker 2: have two. Wives it's it's it's really. Nice do you
Speaker 2: want a third social media? Wife?
Speaker 3: Okay oh my, gosh, wait can we talked about my Bloody?
Speaker 2: Valentine? Yeah my bloody balance? Too? Sorry, YEAH i mean
Speaker 2: did you see the? Original, yes that was one of my.
Speaker 1: FAVORITES i was way too young to be watching, it
Speaker 1: was it it came.
Speaker 2: Out it was around eighty.
Speaker 1: Four, YEAH i shouldn't have been watching, it BUT i
Speaker 1: was watching it and loved it so. Much SO i
Speaker 1: was super psyched for the reimagining of.
Speaker 2: It of, course it had, nothing no likeness whatsoever with the.
Speaker 2: Story that's WHY i, said. Reimagine, No my Bloody downtein
Speaker 2: was actually a lot of. Fun it was interesting because
Speaker 2: it was the first live action movie to use the
Speaker 2: new THREE d. Tech that's, Right so it was really
Speaker 2: fun to watch these camera guys figure out how to
Speaker 2: do this really. Time, yeah it was very. INTERESTING i
Speaker 2: mean the equipment that they had was just. Insane they
Speaker 2: had this WHOLE i figured what you call? It what is?
Speaker 2: It they called the dad, guy, now the digital, Guy
Speaker 2: like that was the first he was the first dat.
Speaker 2: Guy he had the cart that just had all the
Speaker 2: storage that kept off ones and zeros that we were
Speaker 2: shooting every. Day and now that's just a part of the.
Speaker 2: Crew now is the that? GUY i think you called
Speaker 2: it that.
Speaker 1: GUY i know nothing about.
Speaker 2: This, yeah the way we did, it this is. Cool
Speaker 2: this is. Cool so you know what a rad camera, is, Right,
Speaker 2: no it's ACTUALLY i think it's an EIGHT k. Camera
Speaker 2: we shot at FOUR k and it's just a really good.
Speaker 2: Camera so you have the one camera, shooting like if
Speaker 2: we're shooting at, you you got you, know the regular
Speaker 2: lens just pointed at, you and then there was a
Speaker 2: second camera at ninety degrees and it shot into a
Speaker 2: forty five degree mirror and it was offset just a
Speaker 2: little bit to give you that THREE d. Effect so
Speaker 2: there were two cameras rolling all the time in that.
Speaker 2: Formation so you can imagine the amounts of data that
Speaker 2: was accumulated during one take at you, know two cameras
Speaker 2: at FOUR. K that's gigs and gigs and. Gigs that
Speaker 2: would get all my.
Speaker 1: Batting oh my, God i've never done a movie in THREE. D,
Speaker 1: yeah you guys have to like do anything, special like
Speaker 1: hold hold for it because it's gonna something's gonna be coming.
Speaker 2: NEW I i didn't. SPECIFICALLY i think Probably tom did
Speaker 2: with the up for the Old Tom. ATKINS i think
Speaker 2: he had to stay, there you, know very be very.
Speaker 2: Still but for the most, part, no it was mostly.
Speaker 2: Technology it wasn't too much asked of the of the
Speaker 2: actor to do something.
Speaker 1: Weird oh my, gosh such a good. Movie they should redo.
Speaker 2: It, no with, you.
Speaker 1: Everything comes back in style like it's about, Time so.
Speaker 2: Why don't we do. Another we should do It Dawson's.
Speaker 2: Creek we should Do Toobson's.
Speaker 1: Creek i'm sure everybody asks you guys that it's never gonna.
Speaker 2: Happen we we actually Remember Dylan. Neil of, Course doug the,
Speaker 2: Sheriff pacy's. Brother he called me like five years ago Is.
Speaker 2: KUR i got an, Idea so we went out had a.
Speaker 2: Drink he's like my, wife AND i wrote this. Pilot
Speaker 2: it's Called Cape. Side it revolves around you and, me
Speaker 2: and it's real. Time so it's twenty years later After
Speaker 2: Dawson's jen's, daughter who were now. Married we have Raised jen's,
Speaker 2: DAUGHTER i forget the character, name and we have a
Speaker 2: couple of other foster. Kids we're living on the. Creek
Speaker 2: i'm the high school football. Coach he's now the, sheriff
Speaker 2: and it's, about you, know managing this household of. Kids
Speaker 2: it's very much like The foster's but with two, dudes
Speaker 2: but with The Cape side esthetic and background and, backstory
Speaker 2: and we could have Like dawson And joey and everybody
Speaker 2: pop in every now and then and do. CAMEOS i
Speaker 2: thought it was a great.
Speaker 1: Idea i'm obsessed with this. Idea what's what's the hold?
Speaker 2: Up the hold up Is sony at the time and
Speaker 2: didn't want. It doesn't want to do anything unless certain
Speaker 2: people are involved from the. Original what if that's what
Speaker 2: we're talking.
Speaker 1: About they want certain people involved on camera.
Speaker 2: Only no behind a camera doing the. Writing and is that?
Speaker 2: Possible do you? THINK i don't think, so Because i've
Speaker 2: we've talked about it and he doesn't want to do.
Speaker 2: It so, unfortunately because it's such a great.
Speaker 1: Idea who did you say doesn't want to do?
Speaker 2: It But Kevin. WILLIAMSON i think we would need at
Speaker 2: Least sony Unless sony has changed. Hands who's ron On? Sony?
Speaker 2: Now do you know it was a woman back when
Speaker 2: we pitched. It if somebody news in, there we should
Speaker 2: try it. Again actually, NO i believe it's.
Speaker 1: So But Kevin williamson created. It what does that? Mean
Speaker 1: but they have the rights to.
Speaker 2: It, Yeah sony has the rights to, it which is
Speaker 2: why we went, there, right you know we would we the.
Speaker 1: Cast what if the cast signed on and said the
Speaker 1: little ep, it they still won't do it Without Kevin.
Speaker 2: Williamson this isn't. FAIR i. Know it doesn't make any
Speaker 2: sense to, me especially with all the remakes and spin
Speaker 2: offs that are.
Speaker 1: HAPPENING i, mean like when we did the reboot of
Speaker 1: nine on two and. Zero we had to go in
Speaker 1: and LIKE Cbs productions had the rights to, it But
Speaker 1: Darren starr created, it we didn't HAVE i think it
Speaker 1: came aboard as, something but it wasn't contingent on.
Speaker 2: HIM i would really love to do, it and you,
Speaker 2: Know i'll tell you. Why it's because it would just
Speaker 2: be fun AND i would finally get to recreate that
Speaker 2: scenario In. Wilmington or you'll be able to go home,
Speaker 2: AGAIN i would.
Speaker 1: TAKE i, mean, yeah, well you're the master manifestor so
Speaker 1: you just you need to manifest this.
Speaker 2: Once twice before it do it. Again, YEAH i should
Speaker 2: put a little bit more thought into.
Speaker 1: IT i believe in, you Chur.
Speaker 2: Smith, well maybe maybe we'll pitch it again and see if.
Speaker 1: You have guest cast on it.
Speaker 2: Worse oh my, god, ABSOLUTELY i don't know.
Speaker 1: TO i just want you guys to get reed made.
Speaker 1: Nice where is your name come? FROM i know everyone's
Speaker 1: probably asked you, that But i'm actually very.
Speaker 2: Intrigued her is A scottish last. Name it's actually pronounced.
Speaker 2: CARE i understand that our clan is notorious for being
Speaker 2: late to, battle and it's my grandfather's maiden name On, no,
Speaker 2: sorry it's my grandmother's maid name on my dad's, Side
Speaker 2: so my father named, me wanted to name me after him.
Speaker 1: Her Both why is it pronounced her and not?
Speaker 2: CARE i just changed down the. Line at some point
Speaker 2: it changed or you changed. It the pronunciation In america.
Speaker 2: CHANGED i mean there is, uh there's A Kerr, street
Speaker 2: There's Kerr. GLASS i think they pronounced the class company like,
Speaker 2: ball like The Mason jars as a company. CALLED i
Speaker 2: think they pronounced It kerr, actually but down In wilmington
Speaker 2: they actually pronounced it car.
Speaker 1: Car, Wait, NO i think it is pronounced car in The.
Speaker 2: SOUTH i think that's how they pronounced. It, Anyway i'm A,
Speaker 2: kerr so it always annoyed. Me back In, wilmington there's
Speaker 2: an actual. INTERSECTION i don't think it's there anymore because
Speaker 2: it changed the name of the, streets but we Had.
Speaker 2: Kerr it's either boulevard or street or avenue that. Intersect
Speaker 2: this is Crazy Smith Creek, parkway AND i took a.
Speaker 2: PICTURE i got out of my car at the intersections
Speaker 2: of the major section. TOO i got out of A i
Speaker 2: managed to grab both the little signs that are above
Speaker 2: the intersection so it READ Kerr Smith Creek. Parkway BUT
Speaker 2: i can't be it was before, iPhone so that suckers. Lost.
Speaker 1: Gone, ooh that'd be worth a lot of money on.
Speaker 1: eBay damn it.
Speaker 2: Money and it's right by the stage. Too that's so.
Speaker 1: Crazy, yeah, well if anyone finds, it they, can let you,
Speaker 1: know slide into your. Dms you don't check them because
Speaker 1: you don't do Social.
Speaker 2: But how do YOU i, mean let me legitimately ask,
Speaker 2: you how do you check YOUR dm because you probably
Speaker 2: have one hundred thousand dms every? Day how does that work? Matter?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well because see Now i'm gonna show You i'm
Speaker 1: not very savvy. Savvy i'm just playing the part. Here
Speaker 1: so if you go to YOUR, dms you have, primary
Speaker 1: you have, requests and you have. General for some, reason
Speaker 1: it filters. It so you're, Right like IF i don't
Speaker 1: follow someone and they don't follow me or something like,
Speaker 1: THAT i don't see all those like.
Speaker 2: Okay gotcha billionaire. Primaries, basically somehow it knows who you talk.
Speaker 2: TO i guess because it knows. Everything they really.
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Speaker 1: saying hi to.
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Speaker 2: INSTAGRAM i guess it would have to be withn't. It,
Speaker 2: yeah no one Does facebook. Anymore you don't Do? Facebook, okay, wait.
Speaker 1: You have privacy On no one can slide into YOUR
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Speaker 2: turn that?
Speaker 1: Off oh, NO i just made that up to me.
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Speaker 1: you were like hard to get to. O, hey hold, on.
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Speaker 1: Seam just now.
Speaker 2: Seen hey. SPA i just thought of something really funny
Speaker 2: and terrifying me at the same. Time two thousand and,
Speaker 2: one two thousand and two something like. THAT i did
Speaker 2: a pilot called Silver leg for your. Dad how DO
Speaker 2: i don't remember that? ONE i want to tell you
Speaker 2: that auditioning or testing for your father and his executives
Speaker 2: in his office in front of that couch that holds
Speaker 2: thirty Five, well probably the most terrifying Things i've ever.
Speaker 1: Done it's, horrifying. RIGHT i felt so bad for.
Speaker 2: Actors oh my, God i'm, like you gotta be kidding.
Speaker 2: Me you walk in and it's JUST i think it
Speaker 2: was a pretty small coffee table considering the.
Speaker 1: Right, yes And.
Speaker 2: I'm standing there And i'm, gone i gotta. TALK i,
Speaker 2: mean it's like you down, there and you Down it's
Speaker 2: the biggest Couch i've ever seen in my. Life it's.
Speaker 1: Crazy, yeah my mom had that meat for his.
Speaker 2: Office.
Speaker 1: Yep, anyway Fish, wait so Silver. Lake I'M i have
Speaker 1: a good memory AND i, remember oh my dad SHOWS
Speaker 1: i do not remember that.
Speaker 2: One, yeah it. DIDN'T i mean it was just a pilot,
Speaker 2: obviously but it was the premise, was IF i remember,
Speaker 2: RIGHT i could see dead. People. Oh for some.
Speaker 1: Reason, OH i thought it was like on the Nine
Speaker 1: Melware's place. Trend and you were going to say it
Speaker 1: was like a group of kids like In Silver.
Speaker 2: Lake, no it was me AND i had a friend
Speaker 2: and we were living In Silver. Lake so it had
Speaker 2: that you, know cool hippie. Vibe not, hippie but. Whatever
Speaker 2: Silver Lake vive Is. Hitsterir thank you and, yeah and
Speaker 2: IT i can for some reason to see dead. PEOPLE
Speaker 2: i forget the reason. Why it was kind of. COOL
Speaker 2: i liked.
Speaker 1: It this is in two thousand and, one said one.
Speaker 2: Two somewhere in. There, yeah, no, wait, no, sorry we
Speaker 2: have to be after that because we were still on
Speaker 2: the show three, Four so it's probably like two thousand and,
Speaker 2: three two thousand and four somewhere in. There.
Speaker 1: Wow, Okay i'm gonna look this. Up i'm gonna find this.
Speaker 1: PILOT i mean it's you know that you speak.
Speaker 2: Of you know what? Network do you know what? NETWORK
Speaker 2: i THINK i think it was W. B i can't. Remember,
Speaker 2: okay that would make sense. Network what network was? It
Speaker 2: usually you guys know, what.
Speaker 1: We were A fox like back in the, day my
Speaker 1: dad was like OWNED abc basically he had every show.
Speaker 1: There but then it turned Into fox AND wb so.
Speaker 2: It was Probably fox and the.
Speaker 1: Hit the new. Networks you, know he was rolling with the.
Speaker 2: Times.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well thank you for talking to me. Today i'm
Speaker 1: glad we finally.
Speaker 2: Met, yeah.
Speaker 1: Finally it's All what is the next con you're? Doing?
Speaker 2: Seattle it's a horror. Con it's the end Of. October
Speaker 2: i'm doing it With Jamie.
Speaker 3: King.
Speaker 2: OH i think it's her first. Con so we're gonna
Speaker 2: do a little My Bloody valentine up.
Speaker 1: There that'll be.
Speaker 2: Cool brace her for. It, yeah she's, yeah she's has
Speaker 2: no idea what to. EXPECT i would talk to, you
Speaker 2: but you know it is your first. One you're, like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Newbies. YEAH i remember When Heather graham did her first.
Speaker 1: One we were doing From scream two and she was,
Speaker 1: LIKE i have never done. One i'm, Like, okay don't.
Speaker 2: Worry it's gonna be.
Speaker 1: Okay, well hopefully i'll see you at one of these
Speaker 1: cons and we'll get.
Speaker 2: Some yes we, Will, oh, perfect you, will and we'll
Speaker 2: hug like we've known each other our entire. Lives how about.
Speaker 2: That there we. Go i'm a.
Speaker 1: Hugger and then you'll take me. Clamming i'll take you.
Speaker 1: Clamming you and you your real, wife your baking, Wife
Speaker 1: i'll be your claiming.
Speaker 2: Wife will all go in your. Van so much. FUN
Speaker 2: i like a. Plan it's a.
Speaker 1: Plan, okay thank, You, curd nice. Story, okay, bye have
Speaker 1: a great day.
Speaker 2: Too. Bye