Speaker 1: Welcome and everybody to Fantasy Pros. This is out of bounds.
Speaker 1: It is me, Joey P joe Pisipa. I'm here with
Speaker 1: my two best friends, Bogwin and Welsh, and all of
Speaker 1: our folks over on our Discord fanspros dot Com slash chat.
Speaker 1: Talk about the week that was in week Well, see
Speaker 1: it's twelve now, it's over and gone and done and dusted.
Speaker 2: We got the hardball tonight, Jim John two brothers going
Speaker 2: at it.
Speaker 1: We'll see what comes of that. A little Super Bowl
Speaker 1: rematch from yesteryear, a simpler time when Welsh's forty nine
Speaker 1: ers were actually good.
Speaker 2: Uh, that was quite a time. Look ahead.
Speaker 3: They're not my niners anymore, not my team.
Speaker 2: What a terrible thing have You're the worst whatever? Not missing.
Speaker 1: You'll never hear me or Bogman do that. You know,
Speaker 1: all three of us are so lucky. We are spoiled brats.
Speaker 1: Our franchises have been relevant for most of our lives
Speaker 1: more often than not. Could you imagine that people who
Speaker 1: are Jaguars fans and Carolina Panthers fans and all.
Speaker 3: These you don't know one Jaguars A Jaguars fan.
Speaker 2: I know a Jaguars fan. I do, I do.
Speaker 3: I don't name them publicly.
Speaker 4: Everybody's Jack. Yeah, Jaguars fan.
Speaker 3: Is a name. You guys are just saying names. Name
Speaker 3: a Jaguars fan.
Speaker 1: Dave Smith, Mike Dempsey. Mike Dempsey is a Jaguars guy
Speaker 1: because he works with the right.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna league with Mike Dempsey.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, they're better people than I am. The
Speaker 3: Niners are done to me for twenty twenty four. They've died.
Speaker 3: They're done, They're dead oiled.
Speaker 5: I mean, just imagine that, Joe, Like, imagine your team
Speaker 5: being two and eight winning an awesome game. The snow
Speaker 5: Miles Garrett goes crazy. He talked about how he's the
Speaker 5: best defensive player in the year and your team's still
Speaker 5: three and eight and you still have to live in Cleveland.
Speaker 5: So you know, it's you got to celebrate the things
Speaker 5: you can celebrate.
Speaker 4: You do you do.
Speaker 1: But I mean, look, well, look, sometimes you win, sometimes
Speaker 1: you lose. And you lost last week, and I still
Speaker 1: stand by if party was healthy, might be a different.
Speaker 3: Than your wallet doing with your bet of the center.
Speaker 3: I told you the Niners were going to get demolished
Speaker 3: in this game, and.
Speaker 2: They did well. Look the pretty injury.
Speaker 1: I got rid of it when I had the pretty injury,
Speaker 1: but then I took half of it and put it
Speaker 1: anyway on the bigger number, just to see, just in case,
Speaker 1: so I could.
Speaker 2: Round trip it. Victory Lappet today.
Speaker 1: But I want to talk here to start with Saquon Barkley,
Speaker 1: because my god, what an incredible performance last night. Twenty
Speaker 1: six carries for him, two hundred and fifty five rushing yards,
Speaker 1: two touchdowns. You know, incredible moment. I know all the
Speaker 1: MVP talk is happening. Now you'll see him in the
Speaker 1: MVP odds. Now, all of a sudden, he has grown exponentially,
Speaker 1: and you know he's never going to get it.
Speaker 2: He's now third on the board at plus six.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine taking a running back, like betting your
Speaker 3: hard earned money on a running back to win MVP. No,
Speaker 3: absolutely no.
Speaker 2: Well it's not going to happen. But I mean I
Speaker 2: get it.
Speaker 1: I think he I think, you know, in a year
Speaker 1: where nobody's really standing out of me and Lamar and
Speaker 1: Josh Allen are kind of standing out together. But again,
Speaker 1: he can have that conversation back and forth about them.
Speaker 1: You know, we should start opening it up more. Maybe
Speaker 1: there is a conversation that we had about the way
Speaker 1: we used to do this award and from a fantasy
Speaker 1: perspective too, just to kind of turn it around. I mean,
Speaker 1: bogs were you and a lot of drafts for Saquon
Speaker 1: went in the first round.
Speaker 5: When I was taking him, besides when you were taking no,
Speaker 5: not many. I mean he fell to the second and
Speaker 5: a lot people are afraid of the injuries with Saquon.
Speaker 5: That's what it's been since he's had a couple of injuries.
Speaker 5: So I just I can't imagine not liking Saquon going
Speaker 5: to Philly, and I can't imagine not liking Derek Henry
Speaker 5: going to Baltimore.
Speaker 2: Just blew mind.
Speaker 1: I think the only thing holding me back with Saquon
Speaker 1: from the first round for me personally, it was just,
Speaker 1: you know, living in New York with all the injuries
Speaker 1: and all the you know, just the negative feelings around
Speaker 1: those injuries. Because Welsh that was a real thing. I mean,
Speaker 1: he missed significant chunks of seasons, and I guess a
Speaker 1: certain point with guys where they keep missing time where
Speaker 1: no matter how great the talent is, you're frustrating. Now
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry for the most part in his career has
Speaker 1: you know, been in that backfit where Saquan hasn't always been.
Speaker 1: So I get that, But Saquon's going to turn out
Speaker 1: to be, you know, one of the great league winners
Speaker 1: in the last ten years, a guy that you know
Speaker 1: probably wasn't drafted in then a ton of first rounds,
Speaker 1: but you know ended up being a guy probably early
Speaker 1: second that is just crushing for you.
Speaker 3: This year I had and you know it's killer too,
Speaker 3: is I had him, I guess technically as RB four
Speaker 3: because I had McCaffrey, Bejon and Bresse I had, and
Speaker 3: I wanted to move him higher. I was because I'm
Speaker 3: kind of injury agnostic, so like that's my fault, that's
Speaker 3: my plus and my fault is I'm just like injury whatever.
Speaker 3: I had him at four, and then I think I
Speaker 3: had like Jonathan Taylor, Jamier Gibbs and then Henry. So
Speaker 3: I was high on Henry and Barkley over consensus, but
Speaker 3: I didn't have a ton of like wheel picks. And
Speaker 3: that was the general range of where you would take
Speaker 3: Saquon Barkley. If you want to take him in the first,
Speaker 3: you take him around like eleven ten to eleven. You
Speaker 3: could drop him in at twelve. I just didn't draft
Speaker 3: there a whole lot. And I'm talking like across the board.
Speaker 3: I did f FBC, I did best Balls, DraftKings, I
Speaker 3: have sleeper League, GOHO. I did a little bit of
Speaker 3: everything this year. I just didn't have a whole lot
Speaker 3: of investment because I wasn't drafting around that area. Luckily,
Speaker 3: I don't have a ton of CMC either. My highest
Speaker 3: invested of the first round players is probably Beijon this season.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean this is gonna make people rethink
Speaker 3: and recalibrate like how they work with injuries and aging players,
Speaker 3: because Henry's defied it and Barkley is the most laughable
Speaker 3: miss everybody's gonna have had. And they're just like, well,
Speaker 3: you know he could get hurt. You know he has
Speaker 3: You're going with the team. Jalen Hurt's probably gonna take
Speaker 3: some value off because he didn't take those touchdowns. Like
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter. Saquan's a freaking beast on that team.
Speaker 1: Well, I had a ton of wheel picks, and I
Speaker 1: had way too much Marvin Harrison, AJ Brown, Pucatakua combinations
Speaker 1: because I like to build early wide receiver, And my
Speaker 1: biggest regard is I didn't I wasn't as aggressive on
Speaker 1: Nico as I should have been, like as my mind
Speaker 1: really was pressing for like, you know, he really should
Speaker 1: be up in this tier, and I don't know why
Speaker 1: he's not up in this tier.
Speaker 3: You asked, do you think you're gonna like have a
Speaker 3: heart to heart with yourself into next year's drafts of
Speaker 3: maybe not being so like I have to only take
Speaker 3: wide receivers in the first three rounds? Like, do you
Speaker 3: think you're going to open up with how the running
Speaker 3: back position has gone this year from the top end, value,
Speaker 3: depth and everything like that, you might be a tiny
Speaker 3: bit more aggressive on rbs next year.
Speaker 1: No, because it'll be another year older for Saquon and
Speaker 1: for Derek Henry, so then I'll have all that concern
Speaker 1: about repeats and all that stuff. I mean, it's it's
Speaker 1: hard to tell what that first round is going to
Speaker 1: look like. Now. I'm still probably gonna be very heavy
Speaker 1: wide receiver regardless, but look, it's you knew after a
Speaker 1: game like that last night he was going to jump
Speaker 1: in the MVP race, and he did some highs and
Speaker 1: lows of these special teams What a crazy finish for
Speaker 1: the Washington Dallas game. I mean, it's amazing, hardly any points,
Speaker 1: and then the fourth quarter comes around and this game
Speaker 1: explodes in like the last five minutes.
Speaker 5: My favorite, my favorite like social media thing was imagine
Speaker 5: having the under going into the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2: Thank well, I can't just fitting. We talked about it.
Speaker 1: If it's had it, he was like, well, lock this up,
Speaker 1: this is grehand, just explain. It was like watching you know,
Speaker 1: something to sintegrade right in front of you.
Speaker 2: I mean, just stunning.
Speaker 1: Let's let's give credit first to Jadon Daniels again, who
Speaker 1: continues to give us these moments bogs where he just
Speaker 1: sort of defies logic and these big plays and these
Speaker 1: big end of moments, which is shows up in these
Speaker 1: in these moments where he's like again in time time again.
Speaker 2: He did say something in.
Speaker 1: The press conference I thought was very telling, which is
Speaker 1: that he thinks they become too predictable. And I think
Speaker 1: he's right. I think everyone's you know, called on to
Speaker 1: what they're doing. So here's a question for you. I
Speaker 1: know it's the NFC. In the NFC is a little
Speaker 1: light right now. Do you see the commanders falling out
Speaker 1: of this altogether bogs just out of curiosity.
Speaker 4: I kind of do.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I do think they have they have some weaknesses here, right,
Speaker 5: especially with the injuries mounting up. I think the offensive
Speaker 5: line is an issue. I think the secondary has been
Speaker 5: an issue. So I in just the way Jayden Daniels
Speaker 5: is playing, I mean it's almost like he's trying to
Speaker 5: give the Rookie of the Year to Bonix, right, So
Speaker 5: he was awesome late in this game and really you know,
Speaker 5: helped them get back in it, but ultimately couldn't make
Speaker 5: it happen. They lose to the Cowboys. So it does
Speaker 5: seem like this is a team that's in danger of
Speaker 5: kind of fading away.
Speaker 2: Let's get to another one, which is definitely a high.
Speaker 6: So.
Speaker 2: I know Welsh was very.
Speaker 1: Unhappy about his forty nine ers, but you had to
Speaker 1: love the Jalen waddle. I mean, one forty four and
Speaker 1: a toddy eight catches he kills the Patriots. Welsh, please
Speaker 1: tell me you ladder this time.
Speaker 3: I didn't ladder. I did not ladder, but I did
Speaker 3: bet it. And you know, I gotta also point out
Speaker 3: it's very funny that like for better or for worse,
Speaker 3: I feel like when Wattle does good, everybody is like
Speaker 3: Andrew Erickson. When Wattle does bad, Everyone's like man, Ericson
Speaker 3: and Welsh are not really smart, And I'm like, can
Speaker 3: I get some of I was the one on our
Speaker 3: show sheet that said, let's squad ride Wattle. I was
Speaker 3: the one that went harder onto the ladder. I'm with
Speaker 3: Ericson one thousand percent on the Wattle stuff. I just
Speaker 3: want to little bit of the highs with it as well.
Speaker 3: But yeah, but I will say our boy Worm did
Speaker 3: put a nice betting pros meme of somewhere Welsh and Ericson,
Speaker 3: and it was just celebrating. Yeah, a little pissed. I
Speaker 3: didn't ladder it for sure. I put it into two
Speaker 3: different things. A fifty yard up and then I took
Speaker 3: the over. Wattle was the first absolute smash of the
Speaker 3: props this week. And I like the process being right.
Speaker 3: That's actually the big thing too, Like even when I
Speaker 3: get something wrong, like I just want to make sure
Speaker 3: my process is in toe Like this week on the
Speaker 3: Prop show, I had Chuba under process was right. He
Speaker 3: had nothing in the first half and then he got it. Okay,
Speaker 3: chalk it up to the game. I had my touchdown.
Speaker 3: Call I said, hey, stupid Panthers have given up a
Speaker 3: ton of was it five touchdowns to tight ends of
Speaker 3: the last three weeks. Well, my process was right. They
Speaker 3: just went to Noah Gray instead of Travis Kelsey. So
Speaker 3: I want my process to be right. I've been toe
Speaker 3: and toe with ericson on the wattle front for better
Speaker 3: or for worse, and it has been a lot more worse.
Speaker 3: But we celebrate in week twelve.
Speaker 2: Joe, Yes, we celebrate in week twelve.
Speaker 1: That's so kind of worse is continues the Chiefs as
Speaker 1: they really just escaped Carolina with a win.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's the best way to put it.
Speaker 1: So on top of Noah Great catching all the touchdowns,
Speaker 1: we're just super annoying for my couple of Travis Kelsey shares,
Speaker 1: one of which is tied with Patrick Mahomes. So that
Speaker 1: was just infuriating. But on top of which, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know, is it the weight of like what
Speaker 1: we saw with the Patriots, where you know, sometimes the
Speaker 1: weight of the dynasty, the three peats, the perfect season,
Speaker 1: all this stuff just sort of wears on a team mentally.
Speaker 1: Do you think that's what we're seeing? Well, when it
Speaker 1: comes to Kansas City or is there some other hole
Speaker 1: because it's it's not that different of a roster year
Speaker 1: over year. I mean, I know Russia Rice isn't there
Speaker 1: right now, and Pachecko's coming back, but I mean it's
Speaker 1: not grossly different. Yet the results seem to be a
Speaker 1: less a far less dominant Kansas City Chiefs team this
Speaker 1: year than we've seen in some other years past.
Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on?
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess last year they weren't super dominant anyway,
Speaker 1: you know, but that we all chalked up to the
Speaker 1: lack of wide receiver talent and that was just the problem.
Speaker 2: So where do we go from here?
Speaker 1: Or is it just a matter of, Hey, the Chiefs
Speaker 1: need to get in the wide receiver market for somebody
Speaker 1: and make a big splash in that market next year.
Speaker 3: It'sn't like they had that with Rashi Rice and thenjury
Speaker 3: injuries have killed this team. The offensive line doesn't look
Speaker 3: as good. Kelsey looks I don't know, man like us.
Speaker 3: Someone has investment in Kelsey this year and bets he
Speaker 3: looks so old. He just doesn't move. He that touchdown
Speaker 3: to DeAndre Hopkins. I'm sitting there, I'm like, well, you
Speaker 3: got a stupid touchdown and he doesn't get the touch
Speaker 3: and I'm looking and he just like gets in front
Speaker 3: of a guy. And then Patrick Mahomes is running around
Speaker 3: and he just didn't move like he could have, like
Speaker 3: get open. He doesn't know how to get open anymore.
Speaker 3: The injuries, the team trying to adjust it. They don't
Speaker 3: have the guys that they can depend on when things
Speaker 3: get rough. Rashi Rice out, Pachecko out. I'm actually curious.
Speaker 3: I mean, we I know we're gonna get into guests,
Speaker 3: but like, you know, what do you do? We think
Speaker 3: that Pacheco can come in and actually make an impact
Speaker 3: because he's going to be active this week. We are
Speaker 3: actually going to see him. Is he something that can
Speaker 3: help fix this team? It's only right.
Speaker 1: Away, but I think what Pacheco does bring is a
Speaker 1: little bit of energy that I think they need a
Speaker 1: little bit because they are juice the juice.
Speaker 2: You like it a juice? Bryce Sarah Toops is on
Speaker 2: with this, Bryce Sarah Tops, you like it a juice? Right?
Speaker 3: I always like the juice.
Speaker 2: You always liked the jew.
Speaker 7: Here you go.
Speaker 2: What's up, buddy? What do you got for us today?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 8: Well, I'm uh, you know, I was both feeling pretty
Speaker 8: confident I was being my opponent by twenty five points.
Speaker 9: He had one guy left and it was.
Speaker 7: Yeah, no one.
Speaker 2: Though, here's the thing, at least you got destroyed. What
Speaker 2: I hate.
Speaker 1: There's nothing I hate more than losing by a tenth
Speaker 1: of a point or a point.
Speaker 3: Or some great point.
Speaker 2: The worse I would rather.
Speaker 1: I'd rather go into a matchup against Bogman, Welsh, anybody
Speaker 1: ill and just get.
Speaker 3: Distri I'd rather get my ass handed to me than
Speaker 3: have to lose by a quarter of a point.
Speaker 1: For sure, because you second guessed yourself about what I
Speaker 1: should have done. If I only put Michael Pittman over
Speaker 1: Cedric Tillman, I would have had the.
Speaker 3: Starting Jordan Madison this week, said me.
Speaker 1: So, I think that's the anything else Bryce, besides that
Speaker 1: lovely shared that you had for us.
Speaker 2: Here, Bryce, are you with us?
Speaker 3: He's on the juice, he's not too much.
Speaker 1: Of the Waltman is up next with us?
Speaker 2: Waltman, what you got going on? No, it's Waltman.
Speaker 7: Hey, guys, Hello, So I'm a Panthers fans.
Speaker 3: Fan exists, they collect them all made by the government.
Speaker 7: I had such high hopes because we were coming off
Speaker 7: of BI week. Bryce is playing well, the Chiefs had
Speaker 7: just been coming off a loss. For honess, you came
Speaker 7: winning streak and then to lose on a final drive
Speaker 7: as he gave.
Speaker 2: But dude, you took the reigning, defending two times Super
Speaker 2: Bowl champions of the brink and you're the freaking Panthers.
Speaker 1: Walt, you gotta have a little I mean, you don't
Speaker 1: want to win the games, actually you want you don't
Speaker 1: want to win any games.
Speaker 3: You want the highest exactly how you.
Speaker 2: Know this is exactly what you want.
Speaker 5: I mean, if you're gonna in one THO against the
Speaker 5: Chiefs would be fun, right, that's the one you want
Speaker 5: to win.
Speaker 1: It would, but it costs you a higher draft spot
Speaker 1: because of it, because this is a.
Speaker 2: Bottleneck to the bottom here.
Speaker 1: Like you got a bunch of two and three win
Speaker 1: teams right now, so I mean that would put you
Speaker 1: as a four win team and that puts you kind
Speaker 1: of out of the mix a little bit. I think
Speaker 1: this is exactly what you wanted, Walved. You wanted to
Speaker 1: dance as long as you could with the champs, show
Speaker 1: them that you're not a doormat, and then take the
Speaker 1: l and continue to try to get better. I think
Speaker 1: you have a good coach. I think I think things
Speaker 1: are going to turn around for you. Do you believe
Speaker 1: in in Bryce young Walt?
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 7: I do.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 7: I'm very glad we let him sit behind Andy Dalton
Speaker 7: for a few weeks.
Speaker 2: You think that cured everything, all the ills?
Speaker 7: Maybe not everything. He is still pretty short. I do
Speaker 7: want it helped him a lot developmentally.
Speaker 2: Well, let's hope.
Speaker 5: Let's hope, Michael, where you can insult short people and
Speaker 5: get with the battle.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not like five feet tall, but I'm
Speaker 1: not tall either, Michael. Oh, yeah, like five age five.
Speaker 1: I think I'm well you can use together Welsh many times.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know how tall I am?
Speaker 3: I don't you. I've looked down like, hey.
Speaker 2: Hey about me. You're very tall, Michael.
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Are you tall or short?
Speaker 4: Michael? I am right in the middle of I like
Speaker 4: five night average, So you're.
Speaker 2: A little taller than me. So what do you got
Speaker 2: going on?
Speaker 4: I want to I want I was playing what's going
Speaker 4: on now?
Speaker 8: I was just hoping that, like I feel like I
Speaker 8: don't have any like difference makers for the playoffs for
Speaker 8: one team So I was just seeing if you guys
Speaker 8: had any glaring like Bilos as far as wide receivers
Speaker 8: that you guys like for the playoffs.
Speaker 3: Are you still going to laugh? You still have trades
Speaker 3: in your league?
Speaker 4: Yeah, up until Wednesday, that's it.
Speaker 2: I don't know about Bilow trades, Welsh bogs. Do you
Speaker 2: have any?
Speaker 1: But I have one sneaky one I might want to
Speaker 1: put through as a waiver claim. But you're gonna laugh,
Speaker 1: but you want to start there, all right. So the
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks on the Waiver Show, Pat and
Speaker 1: Deebro keep giving me crap because I keep saying, so
Speaker 1: we pick up Nick Westbrook a Kenyan because he catching
Speaker 1: touchdowns every week and again he's caught twenty percent of
Speaker 1: the passes you've got have gone for touchdowns or something
Speaker 1: ridiculous like that, And I get it. It's fine, but
Speaker 1: he keeps catching touchdowns. And his schedule for the rest
Speaker 1: of the season is this Washington, Jacksonville, Cincinnati, Indianapolis, and
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Gain. So I think there might be another couple
Speaker 1: of touchdowns in this mix. I'm just saying, like, if
Speaker 1: you're in a deeper league at something to consider in
Speaker 1: terms of like trying to buy low. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know if that last game being done Bogs, you
Speaker 1: could buy low on Wattle.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's possible still after this week,
Speaker 2: that's probably not.
Speaker 5: Done in dusted right, that's all right, I think that's
Speaker 5: probably over.
Speaker 3: I think it's still right in play. You think people
Speaker 3: are like full price Wattle now and it hasn't been
Speaker 3: all season now, I think.
Speaker 1: I would start with Wattle another one that I would
Speaker 1: throw out there just for s's and g's because I
Speaker 1: don't know how much longer Tommy DeVito's gonna play. But
Speaker 1: if Drew Locke takes over Molikue, Neighbors might be okay
Speaker 1: for you know, because they get in the playoff Baltimore, Atlanta, Indianapolis.
Speaker 3: And I like that schedule, you know, I like, I
Speaker 3: like Courtland Sutton. Courtland Sutton is just bo Nix is
Speaker 3: just such a monster. He freaking loves Sutton. Sutton's getting
Speaker 3: open and Sutton has got on the strength of schedule
Speaker 3: over on Fantasy pros if you check out the remaining
Speaker 3: I think it is actually this might still be adding
Speaker 3: Week twelve in here, which was a really good matchup.
Speaker 3: But regardless of the point four star rest of season
Speaker 3: rating seventh best, seventh best of any wide receiver. And
Speaker 3: Nix has been a monster.
Speaker 4: Super cheap.
Speaker 5: I think you could get Jerry Judy and he's been
Speaker 5: getting a ton of targets since that.
Speaker 3: I like that one. Actually, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: I think that.
Speaker 5: And by the way, it's seven touchdowns in eleven games
Speaker 5: and touchdowns and six of his last seven for.
Speaker 3: What you want, Yeah, dude, Pat did the US Pat
Speaker 3: did the live stream with me on right after you.
Speaker 3: Joe and Tom did the first hour on Sunday morning.
Speaker 3: Pat and I did the second one, and we had
Speaker 3: a couple uh Nick Westbrook ones. I could tell Pat
Speaker 3: was like nope. I luckily did suggest to two different
Speaker 3: people Nick Westbrook and Paw was not with me on it,
Speaker 3: so I could tell his kind of discision.
Speaker 1: I had to fight strap on the Wattle over and
Speaker 1: over again an hour one. I'm like, dude, it's the Patriot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, dude, I don't know. I heard that. I
Speaker 3: came up.
Speaker 2: I dude.
Speaker 3: I talked about it on the second hour. I said,
Speaker 3: Tom and Joe we're fighting about it. I said, but
Speaker 3: you know, I'm pro Wattle, very pro.
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Speaker 2: All right, So here we are. Well still continues to
Speaker 2: crush the three one one. He's at fifteen points. I'm
Speaker 2: at eight.
Speaker 1: Boggs as pathetic at five. I'm going for week thirteen
Speaker 1: with Gino writing that, Oh my god, I'm I'm guys,
Speaker 1: I'm so excited for the Jets game. I'm gonna watch
Speaker 1: Geno Smith with the red hot Seattle Seahawks come into
Speaker 1: New York and play the New York Jets. Oh oh baby,
Speaker 1: this is this is I mean talk about this is
Speaker 1: the worst nightmare for Jeff And forget Darnold. I think
Speaker 1: the Geno one might even be worse. So give me
Speaker 1: Gino for three hundred yards, give me JSN for one
Speaker 1: hundred yards receiving, and give me Alvin Kamara off the
Speaker 1: by against the Rams that gave up five million yards
Speaker 1: to Saquon Boggs. We gotta work our way up the
Speaker 1: ladder here. Where are you going for your three one one?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just you know what I'm doing now, as
Speaker 5: I'm taking some darts and I just have a big
Speaker 5: border players, I'm just throwing them. So we're gonna go
Speaker 5: with Donald versus the Cardinals, just they passed more than
Speaker 5: any other team, so let's stick with that. Jonathan Taylor
Speaker 5: against New England because I just don't like your Patriots defense,
Speaker 5: and Mike Evans versus Carolina because Carolina is going to
Speaker 5: turn back into a pumpkin. So That's what I'm gonna
Speaker 5: go with this week. So you guys know, exactly who
Speaker 5: to fade moving forward?
Speaker 2: King Welch, where are you going this week?
Speaker 3: Buddy man, I got a lead. This is a dominant lead.
Speaker 3: I hit aj Brown this week as one hundred yard receiver,
Speaker 3: did not hit my quarterback or running back box. You
Speaker 3: still have Henry tonight, so you could get a point
Speaker 3: in here. Joe, you smashed with Sea almost get two
Speaker 3: points for that with Saquon.
Speaker 2: A good question. If somebody gets two hundred yards, say.
Speaker 4: That to Joe Welsh because we're not doing it now.
Speaker 3: We're not doing it now. We still by the way,
Speaker 3: I want to point out in this game, if you
Speaker 3: guys have been following along, we still have not had
Speaker 3: someone hit all three. I came the closest last week
Speaker 3: five yards with Matthew Stafford. Did not hit it this week,
Speaker 3: I'm hoping or this past week, I'm hoping to hit
Speaker 3: it this week. I'm going with Justin Herbert versus Atlanta.
Speaker 3: Been incredible, big play, Joe Mixon versus the Jags. I
Speaker 3: feel super good about that one. And Justin Jefferson versus
Speaker 3: Arizona three hundred yard passer, one hundred yard rusher, one
Speaker 3: hundred yard receiver. I have triple the points of Bogman,
Speaker 3: which is insane and double the almost double the points
Speaker 3: of Joe. But the problem here is is as dominant
Speaker 3: as I am in this game, I'm so bad on
Speaker 3: the touch I'm last place here in the touchdown calls.
Speaker 1: I say, if one sweep though one, three, three to
Speaker 1: one one, all of a sudden, Bogman, we either be
Speaker 1: tied with me or I'd only be four behind you.
Speaker 3: If you get a swee I mean for being right here.
Speaker 2: I'm at eleven and you get zero on you're fifteen.
Speaker 2: I'm right on your own.
Speaker 3: Now you could get in it. But it's gonna take
Speaker 3: some incredible weeks for Bogman to be competitive in this game.
Speaker 3: But to his credit, Bogman owns the touchdown call. So
Speaker 3: Bogman is a touchdown call leader. I am the I
Speaker 3: am handily the three to one one leader, but we
Speaker 3: only do one touchdown call, so it's gonna be tough
Speaker 3: for me to make any headway here.
Speaker 1: Well, before we get to that too, you mentioned something
Speaker 1: Bogs kind of in passing. How about the Patriots defense
Speaker 1: is drawn. Mayo is supposed to be a defensive guy,
Speaker 1: right defense has been oop is drown Mao gonna be
Speaker 1: a one and done head coach.
Speaker 5: I don't think he's one and done, but I can
Speaker 5: see it being like two to three years and then
Speaker 5: he's gone. So but I don't think he's one and done.
Speaker 5: You can't give a coach this personnel and say, all right,
Speaker 5: go out and win and look impressive. No, you have
Speaker 5: garbage on your team right now. You have to sweep
Speaker 5: the garbage out the Bill Belichick did leave a bit
Speaker 5: of a mess, right so you have to clean up
Speaker 5: the mess. And then you have to see what he
Speaker 5: can do with viable players. He just does not have
Speaker 5: the players here. I don't think that would be fair.
Speaker 5: I don't know that he's a good coach, but I
Speaker 5: know that not many coaches would win with this personnel.
Speaker 4: That was a very, very thoughtful response to that question.
Speaker 2: Who are you again?
Speaker 4: And what have you done with Scott Bok.
Speaker 1: Let's get to the more fire fire.
Speaker 2: Here's the one thing.
Speaker 1: Vrabel is still lurking out there, and I know Kraft
Speaker 1: is in there going, Oh, if I don't hire Vrabel
Speaker 1: this year, he'll be somewhere else for three years or
Speaker 1: four years or the rest of his career.
Speaker 2: Uh dreddis what's going on dred.
Speaker 6: Good afternoon, guys.
Speaker 2: Are you doing well?
Speaker 6: What you got before I ask my question? I have too,
Speaker 6: sadly one up. Waltman born in Florida, live in North Carolina.
Speaker 6: I am both a Jaguars and Panthers fan.
Speaker 2: And she said jaguars, which made it all the better.
Speaker 6: Is thats not jaguars or whatever the other pronunciation is.
Speaker 2: I don't say jaguar. I never say jaguar.
Speaker 1: That is the British pronunciation Joe did on on television
Speaker 1: commercials of Jackie Wars.
Speaker 6: I can't take your word when you didn't even spell
Speaker 6: Jawan Jennings correctly after making fun of Chat for not
Speaker 6: doing it either.
Speaker 2: Well, you know it's not like dredas.
Speaker 3: Are you backing me up on my my my Yeggy
Speaker 3: Wars pronunciation?
Speaker 6: No, it's jaguars.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's jack Jaguars. That's what I say, Jack.
Speaker 2: Jaguarars, w goons dread.
Speaker 1: Did you have anything actually productive that shows is very productive?
Speaker 4: Actually I do.
Speaker 6: Is it too early to ask us like a start
Speaker 6: question for week thirteen or no?
Speaker 2: Because we have Thursday games? But it's hard because you
Speaker 2: don't have any reports coming out.
Speaker 6: Right. I thought maybe with you know everything that's going on.
Speaker 6: Tilman with the concussion, Jennings with Purty maybe not playing, Pollard,
Speaker 6: Taj Spears will come back, Coleman with his wrist. I've
Speaker 6: got injuries all over the place without.
Speaker 4: Having injury what I heard so far?
Speaker 6: Can you do like it? Maybe a priority list just prediction,
Speaker 6: while prediction it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: Sure who are they again?
Speaker 3: Of all those guys, it was.
Speaker 6: What Tillman, Tilman, Jennings, Pollard, Coleman, d Hop.
Speaker 1: All right, uh, right off the bat, I mean the
Speaker 1: safest one is definitely getting Pollared in there for the touches.
Speaker 2: I think we can agree on that.
Speaker 3: Yes, what do you need? By the way, dress, what
Speaker 3: do you need? You need like two white out and
Speaker 3: a flex?
Speaker 6: Like, oh yeah, I'm sorry, it's full PPR. I need
Speaker 6: one wide receiver one flex?
Speaker 3: Okay, perfect?
Speaker 2: All right, Well Paulward is getting a flex?
Speaker 3: How can you not start d Hop against the Raiders?
Speaker 1: Though, yep, that's me and that's like that's that's we're
Speaker 1: three for three.
Speaker 5: And got banged up. Let's see if brock Berty comes
Speaker 5: back for Jennings. It's not a great matchup either way.
Speaker 5: We're not going with key on uh, Kevin Coleman here,
Speaker 5: Keon Coleman here. So yeah, de Hop and Pollard, I
Speaker 5: think is what I like to all.
Speaker 2: Right, worth your up? What's going on?
Speaker 8: Tell us?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 9: There there, I have a grievance and a question. So
Speaker 9: I'm in a keeper league and I kept McCaffrey and
Speaker 9: Kuka and then I drafted Rushie, Rice, Stefon Diggs and
Speaker 9: Mark Andrews. So about five weeks into the season, wasn't
Speaker 9: feeling too hot.
Speaker 3: No, that's a little queasy. Yeah, that's a good grievance.
Speaker 3: There's something by the way, when someone comes on and
Speaker 3: they go, I've got a grievance, I just my heart
Speaker 3: just like grows like a size bigger. It's just something
Speaker 3: I get so happy about because I can relate to.
Speaker 4: You're like, whatever this is. It's the opposite of the Grinch.
Speaker 3: Well, it's like knowing you can like you, you feel
Speaker 3: related with people like it's like, oh.
Speaker 4: I can his heart turned two black?
Speaker 3: All right? So what was the question though, Well, thank
Speaker 3: you guys for relating.
Speaker 9: So I got a quarterback issue. I got Baker bow
Speaker 9: Nix and Kyler Murray and unfortunately I started Murray this week.
Speaker 9: But who do you guys like between those three rest
Speaker 9: of the season.
Speaker 5: It was Kyler and the old Nicks and Kyler, Kyler,
Speaker 5: Baker and Nix.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard not to say Nix at the top
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 3: It is strength to schedule. By the way, Nicks has
Speaker 3: the fourth best strength of schedule rest of season as well.
Speaker 1: I lost my mind about Kyler on the betting show
Speaker 1: today because I've just I mean, he looked so bad
Speaker 1: in that game is and he I mean he made
Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks look like I mean it was like
Speaker 1: the eighty five Bears back there. I mean, he did
Speaker 1: little running jump passes that he keeps throwing to the
Speaker 1: other team is just awful. I'm looking at the schedule
Speaker 1: right now for Baker.
Speaker 3: Actually, Baker's M two Baker is the second best.
Speaker 2: Drinker schedule twice, Kyler's third bro.
Speaker 3: Oh, Kyler one hundred percent. Kyler's out of that, Like
Speaker 3: the Bucks also are benefiting so much from I mean,
Speaker 3: if I had one thing right this weekend, big was
Speaker 3: Bucky irving every question. I was Bucky over I might
Speaker 3: help me in the ranks. To be honest, with the
Speaker 3: Ranks contest this week, no one was higher on Bucky
Speaker 3: than me. Perceivably, they're probably was somebody. But because he
Speaker 3: can move the ball. If you watch that game, you
Speaker 3: saw they'll go to a run here too. But then
Speaker 3: they can they can complete those short passes better, they
Speaker 3: can do better play action. Mike Evans is just a monster.
Speaker 3: They just look even without Chris Godwin, like a more
Speaker 3: complete team and a guy like Bucky, even though his
Speaker 3: running back makes it look better. I just think the
Speaker 3: floor is so good for Baker Mayfield. I would love
Speaker 3: to go in is. I would even hearing myself say
Speaker 3: this in the preseason, going into the playoffs with Baker
Speaker 3: Mayfield and Bo Nick's playing is incredible. I cannot believe
Speaker 3: I'm saying that, But I would take that over Kyler.
Speaker 1: I told everybody on the Sunday Show, is like, look,
Speaker 1: the Broncoes to make the playoffs is at minus one
Speaker 1: twenty right now, that's the last time we're going to
Speaker 1: see this number, because they're gonna win today and it's
Speaker 1: gonna go bananas into the minus. And sure enough it did,
Speaker 1: and and you know what, credit to them. I mean,
Speaker 1: everyone's making fun of Peyton and Knicks and everyone's making
Speaker 1: front of the draft pick and all these things, and
Speaker 1: you know what, who's laughing now because they're gonna be
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. I was gonna say this for later,
Speaker 1: but since we're talking about it, if there was a
Speaker 1: this is how I put it to Ericson, So I
Speaker 1: was gonna put it to you guys the same way
Speaker 1: because I.
Speaker 2: Know you'll get the context.
Speaker 1: We know, like the World Championship, right, you know, in
Speaker 1: pro wrestling terms, like that's the guy at the top.
Speaker 1: Then there's that worker title, that Intercontinental Championship, and I
Speaker 1: kind of wish it was a version of that of MVP.
Speaker 1: And it's not AP Player of the Year because that's
Speaker 1: just the best non quarterback player. But if you're talking
Speaker 1: about most valuable player, the job that Baker Mayfield has
Speaker 1: done for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, holding this team together
Speaker 1: with like glue and tape and just sheer will and
Speaker 1: and personality.
Speaker 4: Down the field to block for Bucky.
Speaker 5: I mean to make Baker endearing, right, like you know, he.
Speaker 1: Jumps into the end zone and he's given everybody the
Speaker 1: Italian hands of the end zone. I mean, it was
Speaker 1: just he was just incredible yesterday.
Speaker 4: He was he was good.
Speaker 5: He has great games and he's a good he's a
Speaker 5: good quarterback to lead what they're doing there, to throw
Speaker 5: the ball a ton, which is what makes him valuable
Speaker 5: in fantasy as well, especially when he has Godwin and Evans.
Speaker 4: Obviously god went out for the year, but here's.
Speaker 5: A heavy passing offense, and even like a lot of
Speaker 5: the run game works on the short passes as well,
Speaker 5: so he gets a big bonus for it. So yeah,
Speaker 5: I think I'm baker in that discussion as well. I
Speaker 5: just yeah, I don't hate Kyler nearly as much as
Speaker 5: you guys do, and I do think that I do
Speaker 5: think that the Seahawks defense has taken a huge step
Speaker 5: up here.
Speaker 4: I think they're a little dangerous.
Speaker 3: I'm actually I'm.
Speaker 2: Playing like, are are they are?
Speaker 1: They like just taking advantage of every stupid mistake that
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks of that they've faced recently have done, because
Speaker 1: I mean, there were some awful mistakes yesterday where Kyler
Speaker 1: just needs to eat the ball or throw the ball away,
Speaker 1: and he just these running jump passes which I know,
Speaker 1: like he like.
Speaker 3: Can't see line, It wasn't even behind the line.
Speaker 5: Just said we don't insult short people here, Welch, what
Speaker 5: is your problem?
Speaker 3: I love this idea. By the way, actually of like
Speaker 3: introducing belts to the league, like having like an intercontinental champ.
Speaker 3: I actually think that would be so much fun if
Speaker 3: they had like a good internet intercontinental champion, US Champion
Speaker 3: or something like that to football. I don't know how
Speaker 3: we would do it.
Speaker 5: Going to start the six foot one and over league,
Speaker 5: hardcore champion, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Court champion.
Speaker 10: There you go.
Speaker 2: All right, let's get to the touchdown. Calls Bogman.
Speaker 1: You're at the top of the bar with seven. I'm
Speaker 1: right behind you with six. Uh my, Jalen Hurts calls him.
Speaker 1: Perpetuity have been going very well, but I got a
Speaker 1: new one this week. Welsh is behind with five. But
Speaker 1: you're right in there, Welsh. So bog since you're a
Speaker 1: king of the mountain in this one, wyn't you kick
Speaker 1: things off here?
Speaker 5: Iron give me Kyroen against New Orleans. I don't believe
Speaker 5: in them. I don't think they're a good team, and
Speaker 5: I think the Rams are pretty solid. They ran into
Speaker 5: a buzzsaw last night of the Eagles, but I think
Speaker 5: they take their frustrations out on the Saints next week.
Speaker 5: And I think Kyroen scores probably twice but at least once,
Speaker 5: so I'll take it.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: She had the right idea, a tight end for Kansas City,
Speaker 1: just the wrong one.
Speaker 2: Oh god, I was there.
Speaker 3: I was there, Kelsey. I mean it was just stupid. No,
Speaker 3: great went there. I'm gonna, unfortunately have to pick on
Speaker 3: our dear friend Drettis and her team the Jaguars, and
Speaker 3: go Joe Mixon. Joe Mixon is gonna score seven touchdowns
Speaker 3: in this game, So there you go.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Josh Allen against your forty nine
Speaker 1: ers on standalone primetime football.
Speaker 2: You're gonna be watching that, Welsh Are you gonna try
Speaker 2: to hide under?
Speaker 3: What day is that?
Speaker 4: It's it's a Sunday night game.
Speaker 3: I believe busy, right, I have to work. I got
Speaker 3: to do an extra live show.
Speaker 2: No, he works Sunday nights.
Speaker 3: Like life is. There's there's enough of life to pull
Speaker 3: you down. Why would I Like? I looked at myself like,
Speaker 3: why am I watching this game? Like I don't know
Speaker 3: why I'm watching this game at all? Why would I
Speaker 3: watch this torture unless I bet on it, which I
Speaker 3: bet on way too many forty nine ers in that game.
Speaker 3: I'm like, Oh, there's like some raine, there's gonna be
Speaker 3: a whole lot of Christian McCaffrey. Deebo is going to
Speaker 3: have a good game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought I thought CMC was going to be
Speaker 5: much better in this game. But Brandon Allen couldn't do anything.
Speaker 5: Why would they have him with a busted finger in there?
Speaker 4: Over Josh?
Speaker 2: You know, why wasn't he on the injury report?
Speaker 3: Why? Why was he not? Why did they not tell
Speaker 3: us I have been like not caring about the Shanahan
Speaker 3: lie thing? This is crazy on the broadcast by the way,
Speaker 3: broke his finger two weeks ago and implat why would
Speaker 3: Josh Joshua Dobbs not be the quarterback? Like it's crazy
Speaker 3: shanahans all picked up the ball and start being quarterback?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean if he could, he would. I mean
Speaker 1: I think we probably much know that. That's the truth. There,
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Speaker 1: help you get all the way to success. So what's
Speaker 1: trending this week, obviously is Thanksgiving. And no, we're not
Speaker 1: gonna do some stupid draft of sides like ever your.
Speaker 3: Number one Pickauce went to the fourth round?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I could believe that man Ham in
Speaker 2: the second What a steal? What a steal? No, we're
Speaker 2: not doing that. It's tired, it's old, it's stupid. I'm
Speaker 2: not doing it.
Speaker 1: I do want to talk about Thanksgiving games though, because
Speaker 1: you know now we have three of them. You know,
Speaker 1: back in our day, you know it's started off, you
Speaker 1: only had two, you know, But we've gone on this.
Speaker 1: We've we've always been We've had this conversation a million times.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to have it on this show, but
Speaker 1: the one where I was, why do we have to
Speaker 1: keep having the same teams on Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2: It gets stupid? We need it's traditionous, Shugician. I don't care.
Speaker 3: I never understood. There's the same with you, like why
Speaker 3: the lions always get things. Why did they own Thanksgiving?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's not even own, Like, why do they
Speaker 1: get the short end of the stick having to play
Speaker 1: a Thursday game their entire existence?
Speaker 2: Like that? That's terrible.
Speaker 1: I look, I don't know why we get rid of
Speaker 1: every other norm. Why can't we get rid of this one?
Speaker 1: But there have been some great Thanksgiving moments. Now I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give you a second to think about them while
Speaker 1: I talk about my two favorite Thanksgiving moments. The first
Speaker 1: one is I was watching the famous the Leon lepp
Speaker 1: game right, remember in the snow where they they you know, Miami, right?
Speaker 1: And And the fun part was I was actually watching
Speaker 1: it with a Cowboys fan. I was a kid and
Speaker 1: some of the adults. One of the adults was a
Speaker 1: Cowboys fan. And for those of you who don't know,
Speaker 1: you can go google this and watch it. The moment
Speaker 1: there where you know, the ball is rolling around and
Speaker 1: all they gotta do is it alone and Leon Lett
Speaker 1: goes and tries to be a hero. I don't know
Speaker 1: what he was trying to do, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: and he kicks the ball. Go, ball gets in the
Speaker 1: end zone. Next thing you know, dolphins whim And I
Speaker 1: remember as a child watching the adult's face and just
Speaker 1: like the complete and utter just like ruined Thanksgiving ruined,
Speaker 1: It ruined the entire holiday for this adult. It was
Speaker 1: magical because that adult I really didn't care for and
Speaker 1: he was like a cousin of somebody else's family, like
Speaker 1: I don't know, I barely knew the person, didn't like
Speaker 1: them anyway, he was like married into the family, ended
Speaker 1: up getting divorced anyway.
Speaker 4: So there you go.
Speaker 1: But the other one is the wrong coin toss. Do
Speaker 1: you remember that, Bogs?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I remember the steeler right as the first time
Speaker 5: I cursed in front of my grandmother. She wasn't happy
Speaker 5: about it. So the last definitely not the last. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I remember that, and you know we lost because of that.
Speaker 5: That was before the overtime rules of you know, you
Speaker 5: score a touchdown, you win, but if you kick a
Speaker 5: field goal, they get an extra shot.
Speaker 4: And he just ran down the field kicked a field
Speaker 4: goal on one.
Speaker 5: So yeah, one of the biggest blunders in NFL history.
Speaker 4: If you asked me, was there.
Speaker 1: Another famous like Turkey Day game like memory, the like
Speaker 1: the butt fumble was up there for me too, because
Speaker 1: everybody forgets the butt fumble was a Thanksgiving night game
Speaker 1: between the Patriots.
Speaker 4: And I was at the Life of that.
Speaker 5: I went to go see the Life of Pie at
Speaker 5: the movie theater, uh, and I came out.
Speaker 2: You think it was a Thanksgiving theme film. I did not.
Speaker 5: I just I just Pie Pie. But I remember coming out.
Speaker 5: It was one of these hoity toity movie theaters where
Speaker 5: they survey dinner and everything served drinks and stuff. So
Speaker 5: I came out and there's a bar and it was
Speaker 5: just like twenty televisions replaying the butt fumble and that
Speaker 5: that was pretty cool to see.
Speaker 2: I remember myself and I remember laughing out loud and rewinding.
Speaker 1: It was like when the whole you could rewind live
Speaker 1: TV had just started and I rewind it right. No,
Speaker 1: it was like it was on the d v rtist.
Speaker 1: It was like you could do and I just I
Speaker 1: just kept rewinding it and laughing and watching it over
Speaker 1: and over and over again from every angle is amazing.
Speaker 5: Randy Moss tearing up the Cowboys on Thanksgiving was a
Speaker 5: fun one because my uncle was a huge Cowboys fan.
Speaker 5: I remember him acting like he was asleep during the game.
Speaker 5: I'm like, you're not a sleeper watching this guy tear
Speaker 5: up your team and he started laughing with his eyes closed.
Speaker 4: It was pretty funny.
Speaker 2: Well, what's your one one side and what's your favorite
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving memory?
Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, maybe not a shock. I can't remember
Speaker 3: one thing about that, Like, there's not one thing in
Speaker 3: Thanksgiving of a game. I had to look it up
Speaker 3: and I saw the butt fumble, like I don't remember
Speaker 3: a moment like ooh, it's Thanksgiving. But I will tell
Speaker 3: you this is the one thing I do remember a
Speaker 3: football on Thanksgiving was John Madden bringing out that horrific
Speaker 3: abomination of nature, that turducan where they just shoved the
Speaker 3: duck up the turkey and they presented it as whatever,
Speaker 3: and he was just going.
Speaker 4: On about.
Speaker 1: Inside the turkey, you gotta go, you gotta get the
Speaker 1: birds get progressively bigger, hence why you can shove one
Speaker 1: up the other one.
Speaker 3: Well, listen, the cooks could what's the line from Jurassic Park.
Speaker 3: They didn't think if they should. They didn't. They didn't
Speaker 3: think if they should.
Speaker 4: We're so concerned if they could didn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's essentially what happened with the doc And I
Speaker 3: I can't remember movie lines, and there's not like.
Speaker 4: Hey, hey, hey, hey, life finds away. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 4: that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Jeff Goldblum, you know, talking about the ah.
Speaker 4: So, so we'll take the We'll take the dock. Yes, yes,
Speaker 4: the duck. And we're gonna put it inside inside the chicken.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, stay with me, stay with me, inside the turkey,
Speaker 1: think about it.
Speaker 4: Get back to me. Yes, very good.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about some other things here. Am O'Connell might
Speaker 1: be back to play quarterback because I don't think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be Desmond Ridder.
Speaker 2: Is it just me?
Speaker 1: Or when Desmond Ridder came in that game after Gardner
Speaker 1: Minshew came out, and obviously season ending injury for Minshew
Speaker 1: would suck, Well, did you get the feeling that Desmond
Speaker 1: Rider was going to immediately turn over the football?
Speaker 2: Because I got that feeling and it was like a play.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was one of those moments where you
Speaker 3: were just like why are they doing this? And then
Speaker 3: it was like doesn't matter, like of course they're doing this,
Speaker 3: Like it was a battle between that. Absolutely. Mincher's not good,
Speaker 3: Ridder's not good. There's nobody good there whatsoever. So yeah,
Speaker 3: it seemed ridiculously stupid, but I was happy because I
Speaker 3: had a teaser involved with the Broncos and I wanted
Speaker 3: the Raiders to get out of there. So yeah, it's
Speaker 3: a disaster. Daniel Jones, if he really wants playing time
Speaker 3: to go for next year, he should sign with.
Speaker 2: The Raiders this week.
Speaker 3: Probably won't going to go to a competitor and play
Speaker 3: behind and try to go into the playoffs or whatever,
Speaker 3: but that's what he should do.
Speaker 5: He should just go to Philly. I mean, wouldn't that
Speaker 5: be hilarious if they had Saquana Daniel Jones, they won
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl and both those guys get rings.
Speaker 4: It's too funny. He has to do it. My favorite
Speaker 4: meme that I also pissed off Kenny Pickett so much.
Speaker 4: I would love it.
Speaker 1: Oh, somebody posted this hilarious meme where it said, after
Speaker 1: Tommy DeVito's crushing loss today, the Giants are looking for
Speaker 1: a qui quarterback. Luckily a former first rounder was just released,
Speaker 1: and they're kicking the tires on Daniel Jones.
Speaker 2: I thought that was just so funny.
Speaker 3: What he do you think was hard? Did you guys
Speaker 3: see you saw the hit that Davito took, just absolute
Speaker 3: just to obliterate it. Do you think that was bad
Speaker 3: or well, I know technically it was it looked worse
Speaker 3: or do you think the Shahdar Sanders like it looked
Speaker 3: nasty because he.
Speaker 2: Got Sanders one.
Speaker 4: I thought, okay, flat out there, I'm a box. I
Speaker 4: don't know what did you think about it?
Speaker 3: I thought the yeah, it looked it looked but like
Speaker 3: Davito just got hit in the chest. And if it
Speaker 3: looked like a cartoon, he like flew backwards and stuff like.
Speaker 3: I thought that would like knock the wind out if
Speaker 3: Sedar Sanders' leg didn't get blown out. I actually didn't
Speaker 3: think it was that bad. It just looked nasty.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Max Crosby had a hit him on the quarterback. It
Speaker 2: was very funny where he.
Speaker 1: Just ran full speed and then pushed him as hard
Speaker 1: as he could and then threw his hands up in
Speaker 1: the air as if it was not a bit like
Speaker 1: roughing the passard and he didn't get called. And I
Speaker 1: was like, wow, that was that's an interesting technique. I mean,
Speaker 1: full speed as hard. I don't know if you saw that,
Speaker 1: but it was like full speed as hard as a
Speaker 1: good push him to the ground. Who was Oh my god,
Speaker 1: who was the Raiders play yesterday? The Broncos, so pushbow
Speaker 1: Nicks as hard as he could. There's a lion there
Speaker 1: and the last boy after he did it, that's what
Speaker 1: he Yeah, probably, probably that's what he did well. These
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Speaker 2: Good times for everybody. That'll do it for us, but
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