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Speaker 2: So the fifteen of the ten, He's gonna score touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Play into the ground by Puda Baker like a torpedo.

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Speaker 2: He came flying into the backfield Connor to the ten,

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Speaker 2: Here we go one hand to catch it a touchdown?

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Speaker 3: Oh baby, how's that film?

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Speaker 1: Here's Craig Griolu, Paul Calvic, and three time pro bowler

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Speaker 4: So there will be no math on today's show. Per

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Speaker 4: Paul's weekly request. Here on the Cardinals Red Sea Report,

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Speaker 4: I do, though, gentlemen, want to throw out a couple

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Speaker 4: of numbers, and seventy five four as in four weeks

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Speaker 4: until training camp and seventy five Paul, as in seventy

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Speaker 4: five days until you make your first road trip. Week

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Speaker 4: one at Washington and knock on wood here the weather

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Speaker 4: will be nice in our nation's capital.

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Speaker 5: Hey, it's never too early to talk about your Week

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Speaker 5: one opponent. Don't think that the Cardinals' new coaching staff

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Speaker 5: isn't breaking down Washington Commander's film and probably wondering what

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Speaker 5: is Eric B Enemy's offense gonna look like? Exactly, because

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Speaker 5: nothing vexes and frustrates a coaching staff more in the

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Speaker 5: NFL than the unknown. And I was just reading about

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Speaker 5: Eric Enemy and what he's been doing in Washington. Everyone's

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Speaker 5: wondering what's he got in store. And he's gonna try

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Speaker 5: and get the most out of Terry McLaurin and John

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Speaker 5: Dotson and Curtis Samuel and then that run game and

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Speaker 5: the old line might be better than they think. So, Paul,

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Speaker 5: and you think there's gonna be a new owner in place, yep,

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Speaker 5: because they're gonna meet later in July and probably finalize

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Speaker 5: that that vibe will be lit in DC.

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Speaker 4: And the question on who might be the quarterback for

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Speaker 4: that Week one game not only for the Cardinals but

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Speaker 4: for the Commanders as well. But here we are in

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Speaker 4: late June, Kyle and Paul's already talking about Week one.

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Speaker 4: As a player, when did you first focus on Week one?

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Speaker 4: I'm guessing it was nuts in late June.

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Speaker 6: No, it's typically you know, through the summer, through the workouts,

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Speaker 6: through OTA's mini camps, your day to day you're just

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Speaker 6: trying to digest everything they're throwing at you. You're trying

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Speaker 6: to make sure you do everything you can to prepare

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Speaker 6: your body for the rigors of not only you know,

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Speaker 6: the June camps and the workouts here, but you've got

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Speaker 6: I just remember it seems like every single coach at

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Speaker 6: the end of June, when they're saying, you know, they're goodbyes,

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Speaker 6: and after all of your offseason work is completed, you know,

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Speaker 6: their points of emphasis are, don't get too far away

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Speaker 6: time with your family, get everything in order so that

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Speaker 6: you don't have to worry about it when training camp starts,

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Speaker 6: because when we go, it's time to go. You know,

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Speaker 6: make sure that you're in shape. Don't use training camp

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Speaker 6: in the back of your mind, keep coming back to it.

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Speaker 6: Keep thinking about what we've installed, the things that we've

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Speaker 6: not you don't. You know, it's like summer vacation from school.

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Speaker 6: Like you leave school, you don't think about school until

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Speaker 6: it starts up again. You can't do that in football.

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Speaker 6: You've got to stay on top of your game. It

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Speaker 6: use this opportunity to take care of any bumps and bruises,

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Speaker 5: What a teachers call it the summer brain drain among students.

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Speaker 4: So you can't have that.

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Speaker 5: You can't have those mental mistakes going in if you're

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Speaker 5: competing for a job. By the way, since you guys

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Speaker 5: Do you know if Jacoby Brissett beats out Sam Howell,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a problem. Reminds us of the I wouldn't

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Speaker 4: the offseason. Players need to get away, the front office

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Speaker 4: and looking at what might still be available. There are

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Speaker 4: do know this though, that building depth on this roster

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Speaker 4: is priority number one. Is something that's where Austin fort

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Speaker 4: was previously the Tennessee Titans. Mike Keith, Titans play by

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Speaker 4: play voice, a guest of The Big Red Rage, talked

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Speaker 4: about what he the leaves Austin Ford will do with

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Speaker 3: I think that's what Mani has helped do well here

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Speaker 3: be a much deeper team in terms of players that

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Speaker 4: Three open roster spots, not all three will be filled

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Speaker 4: also subtracts. But Kyle, as you look at this roster

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Speaker 6: So to me, I think that's the most important position

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Speaker 6: no continuity. Look, you need depth. You need depth on

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Speaker 6: You certainly need depth at cornerback. And also montiasa Ford

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Speaker 6: They set an NFL record for number of players, different

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Speaker 4: To that point, Kyle, last season the Cardinals used a

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Speaker 4: franchise record eighty three different players. They had eighteen players

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Speaker 4: on ire, eleven of were starters. So you talk about depth, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you need depth, depth at every single position. GM Manti

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Speaker 4: Austin for talking about looking to improve the depth on

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Speaker 8: I think adding competition to everywhere on the roster always

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Speaker 8: makes sense. We're going to always look to improve the

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Speaker 8: that's just going to push all all of our players

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Speaker 4: And O Paul, you've focused more on the defensive side

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Speaker 4: when you talk about where this team probably needs some help.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's great numbers on the D line, ten

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Speaker 4: twelve cornerbacks, but it's not the numbers, it's the quality.

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Speaker 4: And do you know what you have within those ten

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Speaker 4: And obviously Kaisier White appears to be a heck of

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Speaker 4: an addition. Veteran free agency yell to Froholt, But my

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Speaker 4: rushed last year's draft class, got two starting offensive tackles.

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Speaker 4: then they put together a heck of a draft class.

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Speaker 4: From all appearances this year. That's exactly what Manti asin

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Speaker 4: That's your quickest path, in my opinion, to turn around

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Speaker 4: Paris Johnson Junior. We expect him to be the starting

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's going to be a huge And to piggyback

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Speaker 6: off of what Paul was talking about, I completely agree.

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Speaker 6: I think look, one of the failures of the previous

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Speaker 9: Murray and Shotgun takes the snap drops back to past

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Speaker 6: got an opportunity very often early last season, but they

434
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Speaker 6: really showed that they belong in this league and they

435
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Speaker 6: can be contributors and be playmakers in the back half

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Speaker 6: of the season.

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Speaker 5: Cameron Thomas told us that by the end of last

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Speaker 5: season he was two fifty five and then from there

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Speaker 5: he started building back up to around two seventy. But

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Speaker 5: he said he feels every bit as quick as he

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Speaker 5: did at two fifty five because he put on the

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Speaker 5: weight the right way. He also had a body scan

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Speaker 5: analysis some sort of deal, and they said he could

444
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Speaker 5: he could carry three hundred pounds. So what does that

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Speaker 5: mean for his future? His brother is a three hundred

446
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Speaker 5: pound defensive lineman. His dad was a three hundred pound lineman,

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Speaker 5: so I'm curious what that means. I'm also curious, Kyle,

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Speaker 5: because you played the position. When Jonathan Gannon says the

449
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Speaker 5: defensive end and outside linebacker is essentially the same position

450
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Speaker 5: in our system, what does that say about the system

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Speaker 5: and what's coming because they're all wondering what exactly he's

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Speaker 5: going to run.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think most defenses are multiple fronts. I mean,

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Speaker 6: you're not just married to one front. But I think,

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Speaker 6: you know, an outside linebacker, a stand up outside linebackers

456
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Speaker 6: essentially the same as a four to three defensive end.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you're playing in space a little bit, but

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Speaker 6: you're playing the offensive tackle, you're reading his block. You

459
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Speaker 6: you know, you're not using coverage as much as a

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Speaker 6: defensive end, but you you're doing You're lining up essentially

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Speaker 6: in the same position, doing the same things, playing the

462
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Speaker 6: run the same way. So you know, that's what I expect. Again,

463
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Speaker 6: it appears that this defense isn't going to be married

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Speaker 6: to one front, even though you know, my guess at

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Speaker 6: this point is probably not front with some outside linebackers.

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Speaker 6: But you get in and out of different fronts based

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Speaker 6: on game plan, based on down a distance, based on

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Speaker 6: game situations. So you know, and he has shown he

469
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Speaker 6: showed this at San Diego State that he is a

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Speaker 6: versatile athlete. I mean, he played stand up, he played

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Speaker 6: three techniques. He even played nose tackle at time, so

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Speaker 6: he has done it before and has the ability to

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Speaker 6: play multiple positions across the defensive front.

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Speaker 4: If Cameron Thomas is closer to two seventy, then yeah,

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Speaker 4: we might see him in a three point stance as

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Speaker 4: a defensive end.

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Speaker 3: Now. My J.

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Speaker 4: Sanders is the complete opposite. He looks more like that

479
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Speaker 4: prototypical outside edge rusher six five, two forty eight, maybe

480
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Speaker 4: a little bit quicker off the line of scrimmage to

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Speaker 4: get around those tackles.

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Speaker 5: You know, the comp that I got from a number

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Speaker 5: of the assistant coaches last year, Leonard Floyd, my J.

484
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Speaker 5: Sanders reminded a lot of players, a lot of assistant

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Speaker 5: coaches of a Leonard Floyd back in his heyday with

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Speaker 5: the Rams a couple of years ago. That would be

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Speaker 5: a look if you can recapture some of that production

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Speaker 5: that he had for a few years as sort of

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Speaker 5: the wingman for Aaron Donald. Yeah, that would be great.

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Speaker 5: And I tell you and look, they don't have pads

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Speaker 5: on and they're not going full contact, full padded football

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Speaker 5: against an offensive lineman.

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Speaker 3: But my J.

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Speaker 5: Sanders and a lot of those drills looked really dynamic,

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Speaker 5: and I'm curious, just sort of like, Okay, they moved

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Speaker 5: Zave and Kalm, so hopefully maximize his skill set. What

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Speaker 5: are they going to do with the my J. Sanders,

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Speaker 5: who has a lot of length and a lot of explosion.

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Speaker 4: Two other players to pass along when you talk about

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Speaker 4: breakout players specifically on defense, and two players that are

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Speaker 4: in contract years Lucky fot two and Rashard Lawrence. They've

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Speaker 4: been available, Lucky fotwo has, Rashard Lawrence has not draft picks,

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Speaker 4: both fourth round selections. This team is waiting for those

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Speaker 4: two players, Paul to step up and say, yeah, we

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Speaker 4: want to be here.

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Speaker 5: It's completely on those two players. Honestly, it's so wide

507
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Speaker 5: open in the defensive line room. There's no excuse for

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Speaker 5: those guys going into a contract year with their football

509
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Speaker 5: future hanging in the balance to not be huge difference makers.

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Speaker 5: I mean, Lucky fotwo in the size and they need

511
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Speaker 5: his run stuffing obviously, and Rashard Lawrence and Kyle and

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Speaker 5: the guys who have played in that defensive front when

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Speaker 5: they watch his get off as an ability to penetrate

514
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Speaker 5: right on the snap of the ball. Those two guys

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Speaker 5: should be dynamic parts of this defense.

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Speaker 4: But we'll see it is the Cardinals red zea report

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Speaker 4: presented by Seek. It's the Great Seats. This is the

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Speaker 9: Hurry and the gun, waiting for the snap, snap to Murray,

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Speaker 9: drops back to pass, pasttime, fires left side, a touchdown.

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Speaker 9: Zach Ertz the Cardinals with an excellent drive that started

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Speaker 9: deeping their own end.

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Speaker 3: Breathe in and breathe olts Baby Wow.

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Speaker 4: Zach Ertz last season forty seven catches, four hundred and

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Speaker 4: six yards and a team best four touchdowns. As you

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Speaker 4: heard Dave past Ron woofully describe one, a two yard

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Speaker 4: touchdown catch at Carolina. Question is when will we see

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Speaker 4: zach Ertz on the field here in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 4: Greg Realu, Paul Calvic and Kyle Van and Bosch and

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Speaker 4: looking at the tight end position one, we just don't

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Speaker 4: know about Ertz's availability. He says his goal is week one.

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Speaker 4: He had that surgery to repair a torn ACL in November,

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Speaker 4: so September would be ten months. Is it possibility? I

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Speaker 4: think it is, But again, every player recovers on their

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Speaker 4: own timeline. Although I say this, Kyle, we did see

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Speaker 4: Ertz during OTA's and mini camp on the side working

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Speaker 4: doing some light running more like a jog. So he

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Speaker 4: is progressing just how quickly to be available training camp

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Speaker 4: for week one because we do think that this tight

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Speaker 4: end position is going to be a major focal point

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Speaker 4: of the Drew Petsing offense.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so you two are smarter than me throughout stats,

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Speaker 6: and so I got some stats for you. So Drew

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Speaker 6: Petsing came from the Browns. Well, they were number they

547
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Speaker 6: were top five in twelve personnel last year and over

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Speaker 6: the last three years they were number one and thirteen personnel,

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Speaker 6: which is three tight ends on the field, and it

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Speaker 6: wasn't just go line like most teams will do. It's

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Speaker 6: not just a jumbo package. It's they used it out

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Speaker 6: in the field in just about anywhere. So and on

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Speaker 6: top of that, you know, we know Drew Petsing is

554
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Speaker 6: being the quarterbacks coach with Cleveland the two years prior

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Speaker 6: he was a tight ends coach, so he was coaching

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Speaker 6: that group and obviously he understands the importance of the

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Speaker 6: tight end in the offense. And one more little nugget

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Speaker 6: is the Eagles were number one in the NFL in

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Speaker 6: twelve personnel last year, so they used the tight ends

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Speaker 6: more than anybody else also in the NFL. So you

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Speaker 6: can expect this position group to be used a lot,

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Speaker 6: to be featured, and not just in the passing game,

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Speaker 6: but a huge part of the run game. And you know,

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Speaker 6: we again get this feeling and Paul doing interviews with players,

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Speaker 6: this team is going to run the ball. It's going

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Speaker 6: to be a run first offense to set up the

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Speaker 6: play action pass and and so you know, a huge

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Speaker 6: part of your run game and a huge part of

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Speaker 6: play action passing game is the usage of your tight ends. Okay, now,

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Speaker 6: circling back to Zach Ertz. Well, I mean, to me,

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Speaker 6: there is maybe he's in a handful of tight ends

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Speaker 6: in the NFL as top receiving tight ends. I mean,

573
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Speaker 6: tremendous hands, tremendous route runner. You know, he was, and

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Speaker 6: he showed with Kyler Murray. They have a great relationship

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Speaker 6: on the football field. Kyler trusts zach Ertz and he

576
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Speaker 6: was a bit of his you know, not just a

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Speaker 6: checkdown guy, but when he was in trouble, he would

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Speaker 6: find zach Ertz, and zach Ertz would always find a

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Speaker 6: void in his zone. He would find a way to

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Speaker 6: get separation versus man coverage. So I think getting him back,

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Speaker 6: getting him back healthy will be huge for this team,

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Speaker 6: and I think he will have once he does return

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Speaker 6: to the football field, he will have a lot of

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Speaker 6: production in this offense.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 6: To me, the big bigger question is is you know,

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Speaker 6: again this the second year, the sophomore year. Will Trey

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Speaker 6: McBride take that hugely because he also, like the rookies,

589
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Speaker 6: the outside linebackers we talked about, really ramped it up

590
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Speaker 6: toward the end of the season, made some great catches,

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Speaker 6: ran some good routes, showed some tough running after the catch,

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Speaker 6: I mean, he really looked like he had arrived late

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Speaker 6: in the season last year. So I'm excited to see

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Speaker 6: what he has to this offense. And then you know

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Speaker 6: who else will be on the football field, because again,

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Speaker 6: it's not even when zach Ertz is healthy, it's not

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Speaker 6: just going to be using two tight ends throughout the

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Speaker 6: course of a ballgame. I get the feeling they're gonna

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Speaker 6: use three, sometimes use a fourth who was also a

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Speaker 6: special teams player.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 4: Zach Ertz when he met with the media this offseason,

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Speaker 4: did bring up a little bit of a detail, maybe

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Speaker 4: open the door a little bit to what we can

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Speaker 4: expect from the offense here is tight end. Zach Ertz

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Speaker 4: on what he says will be a dramatically drastically different offense.

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Speaker 11: I mean, it could be more different, Cliff. Obviously we

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Speaker 11: were in the gun every play. We're gonna be a

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Speaker 11: lot more under center, I would assume. And so for me,

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Speaker 11: I've never been in an offense like this, so I'm

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Speaker 11: learning a lot. The opportunity to i've explosive plays is

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Speaker 11: gonna go up for me in particular, and the tight

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Speaker 11: ends as a whole. I'm really excited about just coming

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Speaker 11: back and being healthy because I think I can be

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Speaker 11: a difference maker for this team, especially staying the way

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Speaker 11: they're installid players.

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Speaker 4: Ertz will be thirty three on November tenth. He's entering

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Speaker 4: his eleventh season, but almost you would think, Paul, he's

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Speaker 4: I want to say, a chip on his shoulder, but

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Speaker 4: something to prove, maybe to himself than anyone else, as

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Speaker 4: far as yeah, I can still play this game even

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Speaker 4: though I am entering my eleventh season.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if he's healthy, he's gonna be plug and play.

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Speaker 5: I don't care how much a camp he really gets

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Speaker 5: coming off the knee injury. He has a decade in

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Speaker 5: the league. He'll know that the scheme, he'll be reliable

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Speaker 5: from the mental side. Can they rely on the knee?

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Speaker 5: Is he gonna have his confidence to be a playmaker again,

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Speaker 5: that's not really my question. Trey McBride. Can he go

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Speaker 5: from year one year two and making that proverbial jump.

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Speaker 5: Zach Ertz also had to say about Trey McBride, he's

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Speaker 5: not nearly as anxious as trying to do as well

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Speaker 5: as he did his rookie year. Maybe he's a little

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Speaker 5: too hard on himself his rookie year. We'll see, But

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Speaker 5: there's wanting to run a lot of tight ends out there,

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Speaker 5: and then there's the ability to feel that sort offense.

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Speaker 5: You know, Kyle knocked it out of the park here.

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Speaker 5: I mean, we thought he was mailing in this summer show.

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Speaker 5: But he's doing his research and he's talking about all

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Speaker 5: the tendencies of Drew Petsing in the affinity for the

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Speaker 5: tight end. That's great, But once you get past zach

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Speaker 5: Ertz and he's already a question mark. And then Trey McBride,

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Speaker 5: I mean, you got guys like Chris Pierce and Bernhard

644
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Speaker 5: Psychowitz and then the veteran Noah Tangi I I mean,

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Speaker 5: hello to a couple of undrafted rookie tight ends. And

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Speaker 5: Joel Huntingford and Blake Whiteheart both well. Hunting ferg in

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Speaker 5: particular former offensive Lemon he had won college catch his

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Speaker 5: entire career at Michigan, so he's a blocking tight end.

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Speaker 5: You want to go with twelve and thirteen personnel, can you?

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Speaker 5: That's my question?

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Speaker 4: You need one a healthy zach Ertz and Trey McBride

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Speaker 4: to take that leap. In year two, Cole McCoy, they'll

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Speaker 4: offer this up about the young tight end.

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Speaker 12: Trady's doing great. I mean, Trady's a guy that you know,

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Speaker 12: he's fast for a tight end, so you can line

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Speaker 12: him up outside, he can pull him back in the backfield.

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Speaker 12: I think he's a guy you can do a lot

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Speaker 12: with like he can he can handle a bunch. You know,

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Speaker 12: he's getting a lot of different looks right because Zach

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Speaker 12: is rehaving his knee and Trayson has had a good offseason.

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Speaker 5: Pull him into the backfield. Now that's interesting. Okay, what

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Speaker 5: does that mean?

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Speaker 4: Not a fullback but a tight end who blocks a

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Speaker 4: little bit or just gives the defense a different look.

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Speaker 5: But what if a tight ends in the I formation

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Speaker 5: behind the quarterback and in front of the running back.

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Speaker 5: Is he now playing fullback even though he's not listed

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Speaker 5: as a fullback. I'm just curious what this might look

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Speaker 5: like if you are putting the quarterback under center, especially

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Speaker 5: if Colt McCoy is your starting quarterback out of the gates,

671
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Speaker 5: then what does the run game look like? And how

672
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Speaker 5: traditional is it going to be? Back to Zach ertz comment,

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Speaker 5: it couldn't be any more different the one Cliff Kingsbury ran.

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Speaker 4: And we saw a lot last season. Kala the tight

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Speaker 4: end lined up as a wide receiver, whether in the

676
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Speaker 4: slot or deep on the left side or right side.

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Speaker 4: But this offense, I think you're going to see that

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Speaker 4: tight end more on the line of scrimmage next to

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Speaker 4: a tackle, and then the question is, Okay, do they

680
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Speaker 4: run out for a route or are they stay in

681
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Speaker 4: and block. Ertz and McBride right now, they're not blocking

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Speaker 4: tight ends. They're past catching tight ends.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I was gonna say, I think that's again we

684
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Speaker 6: talk about what does the back end of the tight

685
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Speaker 6: end room looks like. I think if there's one thing

686
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Speaker 6: that both of these tight ends still need to work

687
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Speaker 6: on in their game is blocking at the point of attack.

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Speaker 6: I think Trey McBride had a phenomenal rookie season, particularly

689
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Speaker 6: again at the end of the season, but at times

690
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Speaker 6: he was a liability at the point of attack. Zach

691
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Speaker 6: Ertz has never really been known as a point of

692
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Speaker 6: attack blocking tight end. He's more of a backside, cutoff

693
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Speaker 6: tight tight end and split out. So you know, I'm

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Speaker 6: sure it's something they're working on. But again, don't rule

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Speaker 6: out a tight end that's only had one career catching

696
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Speaker 6: college and is a converted offensive tackle, because that's what

697
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Speaker 6: again Cleveland did sometimes they'd bring in an extra offensive

698
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Speaker 6: tackle and use him as a tight end. So that

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Speaker 6: could happen on this roster too. We look at a

700
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Speaker 6: Josh Jones, who may or may not crack this starting lineup.

701
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Speaker 6: He could be a huge tight end and open up

702
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Speaker 6: big holes. I mean, that's a part of the reason

703
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Speaker 6: that Chubb had, you know, so much success on the

704
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Speaker 6: ground game was their offensive line was huge. They would

705
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Speaker 6: use an extra tackle at tight end. And that is tough,

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Speaker 6: particularly when we're talking about how small some of the

707
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Speaker 6: outside linebackers and defensive ends have gotten. Now all of a sudden,

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Speaker 6: you're lined head up on a three hundred and twenty

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Speaker 6: pounder or you're trying to play a nine techniquo a

710
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Speaker 6: three hundred and twenty pounder. That's a whole new ball game.

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Speaker 6: It's not the same as you look. You know, are

712
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Speaker 6: my defensive line coach at Tennessee always said, you cannot

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Speaker 6: get blocked by a tight end. He's a receiver, he's

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Speaker 6: not a blocker. And that's how a lot of defensive

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Speaker 6: linemen view tight ends. Look, if they're gonna try to

716
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Speaker 6: block me, they got no chance. But if you bring

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Speaker 6: in I remember playing against the San Francisco forty nine ers,

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Speaker 6: and then he was Leonard Davis as a big tight end.

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Speaker 6: And I mean a lot of times I was just

720
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Speaker 6: curled up in the fetal position waiting for him to

721
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Speaker 6: jump on me because it was nearly impossible to stand

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Speaker 6: up Leonard.

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Speaker 4: No matter how many tight ends this team keeps, you

724
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Speaker 4: know that Ertz and McBride are going to be there.

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Speaker 4: But if there are three, four and five tight ends

726
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Speaker 4: and you just don't recognize them or they don't have

727
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Speaker 4: much of stats, Paul, I don't care because they're in

728
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Speaker 4: there for one reason, and that's to block either for

729
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Speaker 4: James Connor or someone else. But they have one job.

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Speaker 4: And then just make sure that it's the outside linebacker

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Speaker 4: or the inside lineback. Not get into the backfield.

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Speaker 5: And if there's one position room that you might keep

733
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Speaker 5: your eye on after final cuts for another team's waiver claim,

734
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Speaker 5: might be tight end. Honestly, Cardinals have the number three

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Speaker 5: selection when it comes to waiver claims. But to Kyle's

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Speaker 5: point as well, if you keep three tight ends and

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Speaker 5: you stick with eleven or even twelve offensive lineman, there's

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Speaker 5: Josh Jones or even a John Gaines who's really Athletic

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Speaker 5: oh Wire. Six offensive linemen in the game because you're

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Speaker 5: running thirteen personnel.

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Speaker 9: Network, Dulton and the gun. Third down and eight from

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Speaker 9: the Arizona ten. Taysom Hill on the slot right back

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Speaker 9: to the throat. Dulton looking over the middle, throws back

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Speaker 9: of the.

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Speaker 2: End zone and it's pick up Antonio Hamilton of the

748
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Speaker 2: back of the end zone. With the interception, he takes

749
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Speaker 2: a knee an the Cardinals get a takeaway.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Antonio Hamilton, what a great break on the fall

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Speaker 9: underneath and he Dollon read his eyes and was there

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Speaker 9: for the pack.

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Speaker 4: The first career pick for one Antonio Hamilton, who was

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Speaker 4: re signed this offseason by the Cardinals and now one

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Speaker 4: of those twelve cornerbacks on the roster. As we say,

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Speaker 4: welcome back here to the Cardinals red seat were board

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Speaker 4: presented by seat Geek. Your ticket to great seats. You

758
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 4: got Antonio Hamilton back, Marco Wilson back, and then a

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00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 4: lot of question marks in that room because it is

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Speaker 4: a lot of numbers, just not so much as far

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Speaker 4: as depth of talent right.

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Speaker 5: Now, Craig, there are two types of players on this

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Speaker 5: Cardinals defense. You're either older than the Cardinals defensive coordinator

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Speaker 5: or you're younger than soon to be thirty year old

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Speaker 5: Nick Rolis. Okay, Antonio Hamilton happens to be older. In fact,

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Speaker 5: by my calculation, he happens to be the oldest guy

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Speaker 5: on the defense right now. Which was a sobering moment

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Speaker 5: when Antonio Hamilton showed up for mandatory mini camp and

769
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Speaker 5: he looked around and not only a lot of new

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Speaker 5: names and faces, but he realized he's the older statesman

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Speaker 5: in that room. So let's see if he can pick

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Speaker 5: up where he left off with that pick, which that

773
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Speaker 5: was the one where we all saw in Hard Knocks.

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Speaker 5: We came to the sideline and he came to the

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Speaker 5: rail and he was waiting for his wife because he

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Speaker 5: had the tragic cooking accident where he nearly lost his career,

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Speaker 5: and she really helped him get through that month at

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Speaker 5: least of rehab where he had come back from serious

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Speaker 5: burns on his feet. And let's not forget at the

780
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Speaker 5: end of camp last year and right before the accident,

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Speaker 5: he was the starting corner. He was ahead of Marco

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Speaker 5: Wilson when they broke camp last season, Cardinals signed four

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Speaker 5: free agent corners. They drafted too.

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Speaker 4: Don't know about the availability of Garrett Williams, who's still

785
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Speaker 4: recovering from an ACL injury. But Key Trell Clark in

786
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Speaker 4: the sixth round certainly has made a lot of noise

787
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Speaker 4: this offseason. But if you're not getting to the quarterback Kyle,

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Speaker 4: you need someone or several players on the back end

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Speaker 4: to cover those past catchers. And right now, the Cardinals

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Speaker 4: I think have a question mark as far as who

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Speaker 4: your top two, top three are.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the Cardinals have the questions. I have the questions.

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Speaker 6: It'll be interesting to see how it shakes out. I

794
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Speaker 6: mean again, yeah, there's we've flooded the position group with numbers.

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Speaker 6: There's players that come from a lot of different places,

796
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Speaker 6: players with different ranges of experience. But you know, the

797
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Speaker 6: exciting thing is, you know Paulie keeps talking about, is

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Speaker 6: nobody is getting a preference because they were here last year.

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Speaker 6: Nobody's getting a preference because they made an interception in

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Speaker 6: game six two years ago. And the coaching staff remembers

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Speaker 6: that everybody's on the same footing right now, everybody's been

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Speaker 6: being given an opportunity to compete and to be on

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Speaker 6: the football field. And you know, without actually getting to

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Speaker 6: see much of the practice, we don't really know where

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Speaker 6: everybody stacks up on the depth chart. But you know,

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Speaker 6: there's certain players like Antonio Hamilton that you just love

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Speaker 6: the way he's wired. You love the fact that he's

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Speaker 6: gone through so much adversity. I mean, obviously, as a player,

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Speaker 6: you don't love adversity, but you grow from it, you

810
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Speaker 6: come out stronger on the back end of it, and

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Speaker 6: he really did. I mean, again, having it documented on

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Speaker 6: in season hard knocks the things he went through just

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Speaker 6: to get back out on the football field, and the

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Speaker 6: highs and lows of the NFL season. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 6: you talked about how he was like the starting quarterback

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Speaker 6: come out of training camp. He was the story. I mean,

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Speaker 6: he was playing really well and at a really high

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Speaker 6: level coming out of training camp prior to his unfortunate injuries.

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Speaker 6: So you know, you hope that that chip just kept growing,

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Speaker 6: and you know he's the kind of player that, look,

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Speaker 6: I don't think anybody has super high expectations from this

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Speaker 6: position group at this moment. He loves that type of

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Speaker 6: thing as a player that's been cutting this league and

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Speaker 6: a player that's been on different teams and a player

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Speaker 6: that struggled with injury and adversity. You know what, put

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Speaker 6: it on my plate. Doubt me, please doubt me. And

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Speaker 6: that's the way he's wired. And same with Marco Wilson. Look,

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Speaker 6: Marco Wilson came in as a rookie and played really

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Speaker 6: well from the beginning, but then kind of fell out

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Speaker 6: of favor with the coaches and had to earn that

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Speaker 6: trust back and he did, and you hope that he

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Speaker 6: can take that leap as well. And you know, I'm

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Speaker 6: I'm excited to see what comes out of this room.

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Speaker 6: It's it's a room of not very many household names

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Speaker 6: or any household names. You know, people sitting at home

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Speaker 6: don't know who these players are. So you know, let's

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Speaker 6: let them battle it out. Let's let them get this

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Speaker 6: coaching that Jonathan Gannon's staff is giving these players and

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Speaker 6: see who can help this team, because, like you said,

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Speaker 6: we don't know. You know, one of the big questions

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Speaker 6: is where is this pass rush going to come from.

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Speaker 6: Who's going to be the guy or the guys that

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Speaker 6: provide consistent pressure, and if it's not there, we're gonna

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Speaker 6: need a lot of help at the cornerback position.

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Speaker 4: And it is a position that the head coach, Jonathan

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Speaker 4: Gannon has special fondness for. He played the position in

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Speaker 4: college at Louisville, and he was asked earlier this offseason

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Speaker 4: what he wants to see out of his cornerbacks in

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Speaker 4: this defense.

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Speaker 7: So they got to be smart, know what's going on,

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Speaker 7: and know why calls are being called, where's the stress

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Speaker 7: and the strength of each call, and then be able

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Speaker 7: to line up and tonight the ball on the highway,

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Speaker 7: which that's a long world out there.

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Speaker 4: So a lot on the plate of these cornerbacks. And

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Speaker 4: again you look at who is returning and Marco Hamilton,

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Speaker 4: excuse Marco Wilson and Antonio Hamilton. And with Hamilton, yeah,

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Speaker 4: there is that urgency for him. He always plays as

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Speaker 4: if he's the last guy on the roster, the last

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Speaker 4: cornerback in the room. But he took a liking to

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Speaker 4: the coaching that they were getting this offseason.

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Speaker 13: It's a little different, but they have such a great

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Speaker 13: understanding of it and I think that they can tell

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Speaker 13: you what it is the reason why we're doing it

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Speaker 13: is just to give you that full fledged understanding of

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Speaker 13: just not running cover three like you understand the principles

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Speaker 13: of why we're running and doing it like this.

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Speaker 4: You can get coached up at any position, Paul. Yet

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Speaker 4: at the same time, you also need the knowledge and

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Speaker 4: the talents to go out there on the football field.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, even though you've got twelve corners on the roster,

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Speaker 4: maybe there is an addition before training camp. And to

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Speaker 4: your point about having the third waiver claim when roster

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Speaker 4: cuts are made at the end of August, yeah, a

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Speaker 4: cornerback may be added or two.

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Speaker 5: What about a Christian Matthew seventh round pick has really

877
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Speaker 5: good length and size. He got a lot of playing

878
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Speaker 5: time in the latter stages of last season. What sort

879
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Speaker 5: of leap is he made year one to year two?

880
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Speaker 5: We failed to name him. Nate Harriston, Rashad Fenton, these

881
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Speaker 5: are veteran free agents. I mean, if you're looking for

882
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Speaker 5: a roster to crack as a guy who's a fringe

883
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Speaker 5: fifty three player, then you know what this Cardinals cornerback

884
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Speaker 5: room appears to be it. I'll say this much. Key

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Speaker 5: Trell Clark is really he is really shy. Now it's

886
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Speaker 5: against Michael Wilson a lot, and those two in making

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Speaker 5: each other better. But I think Kee Trell Clark's gonna

888
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 5: get every opportunity to get playing time. And then an

889
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 5: undrafted rookie free agent, a smaller guy that has skills

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Speaker 5: Quavy and White keep an eye on him during training

891
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Speaker 5: camp as well. I think all these guys, and once again,

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Speaker 5: no allegiances, right, Bill Belichick, no days off, Jonathan Gannon

893
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Speaker 5: and Mantia Sippord, no allegiances. If you can play and

894
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 5: you're a young guy and you're part of the future,

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Speaker 5: I think you're gonna be more apt to stick and

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Speaker 5: stay than some veteran free agent off the street.

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Speaker 4: I believe White is one of the what or ten

898
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Speaker 4: different undrafted guys that you have brought up, as far

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Speaker 4: as I pay attention to, its.

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Speaker 5: Five I've identified at may or may not be half

901
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Speaker 5: of the undrafted rookie free agent class. But it just

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Speaker 5: it speaks to just how wide open this competition is.

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Speaker 6: Gentlemen.

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Speaker 4: It speaks to how you like.

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Speaker 6: To hedge and not ever go out on a limb

906
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Speaker 6: because you've been wrong so many times in the past.

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Speaker 4: But to that allegiance point, Kyle, it doesn't matter how

908
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 4: you got here, you're here and we're gonna take the

909
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 4: best fifty three, no matter your stature in the league,

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Speaker 4: how much you're making, or what your draft status is.

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Speaker 4: I love it. I love it.

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Speaker 6: Look woefully always talks about how football is a true meritocracy.

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Speaker 6: It's not always like that. I mean, that's that's kind

914
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 6: of pieing the guy thinking like there's sometimes better players

915
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 6: are on the bench and don't get an opportunity, or

916
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Speaker 6: young players don't get an opportunity because veterans are more trusted.

917
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Speaker 6: You get that feel. And again just from mantiasap Ford

918
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Speaker 6: to Jonathan Gannon talk about we want competition at every position.

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Speaker 6: And if you say that, then if you're playing better

920
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Speaker 6: at practice, if you're showing more in preseason games, if

921
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Speaker 6: you're playing better in regular season games, then you should

922
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Speaker 6: be a starter. Then you should get an opportunity and

923
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Speaker 6: you have earned that position. And I just want to

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Speaker 6: go back one more time to the Hamilton's quote there,

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Speaker 6: because we've heard this several times this season. They don't

926
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Speaker 6: just tell the players what to do, they tell them

927
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Speaker 6: why they're doing it, and to understand the strengths and

928
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 6: the weaknesses of each coverage and where a team is

929
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 6: trying to attack a certain coverage that is huge. That

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Speaker 6: is for a coaching staff to invest in players and

931
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Speaker 6: give them the power to understand why we're calling certain

932
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Speaker 6: things in certain situations. That pays huge dividends for this defense.

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Speaker 4: A great show as always, And because of that, I'm

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Speaker 4: going to reward the two of you with next week

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Speaker 4: off July fourth. Enjoy the holiday. So no Cardinals Red

936
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Speaker 4: Seat Report next week three. You're not the boss of us.

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Speaker 4: I'll just say you want one more number. How about

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Speaker 4: the fact that the Chiefs Dolphins game in Frankfurt, Germany

939
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Speaker 4: sold out in fifteen minutes today and there were a

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Speaker 4: million fans in Q online when the game sold out. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: the NFL is king special thanks behind the scenes, Jim Momhundro,

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Speaker 4: Cody Fincher for Kyle Van Debasch, Paul Kelvcon, Craig Riolu.

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Speaker 4: Will talk to you in two weeks time. You're on

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Speaker 4: the Arizona Cardinals radio network.

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