1
00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,760
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

2
00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:10,440
Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Ertors

3
00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,319
Speaker 2: Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live from the Tirec dot

4
00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,279
Speaker 2: Com studios. Tyreck dot com will help you get there

5
00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,400
Speaker 2: in unmatched selection, fast free shipping. Free road has a

6
00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:24,439
Speaker 2: protection in over ten thousand recommended installers. Tirec dot com

7
00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,319
Speaker 2: The way tire buying should be Er Torres in the

8
00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,680
Speaker 2: La Fox Sports Radio, Tirec dot Com Studios. Jason Martin

9
00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,680
Speaker 2: in our Nashville Fox Sports Radio, Tirec dot Com Studios,

10
00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:37,680
Speaker 2: Jason Martin, what's going on?

11
00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:37,919
Speaker 3: Man?

12
00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:39,360
Speaker 2: How are you doing well?

13
00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:39,960
Speaker 4: Doing well?

14
00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,440
Speaker 5: Even though my boys just found a way to lose.

15
00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,400
Speaker 5: They were up three to nothing. Are they won?

16
00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,440
Speaker 2: Weren't they on like a seventy two game winning streak

17
00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:48,160
Speaker 2: like a week ago?

18
00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, look, it's this week hasn't been great. It hasn't

19
00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,600
Speaker 5: been but baseball is a long season. Everybody goes through lulls.

20
00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,480
Speaker 5: It's all right, but you got the bases loaded the

21
00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,920
Speaker 5: top of the ninth with Ozzy Alby's up, and you're

22
00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,720
Speaker 5: you can't finish that, and all of a sudden, the

23
00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,080
Speaker 5: Brewers and the Reds becomes a real interesting race in

24
00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,280
Speaker 5: the Central So there's actually some fun things going on

25
00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:13,080
Speaker 5: in baseball as well as overseas with the Open Championship,

26
00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,840
Speaker 5: and I don't know, you know what, Like there's still

27
00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:17,720
Speaker 5: not a ton of football to get to, although we've

28
00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,040
Speaker 5: kind of been in the center of it here in

29
00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,080
Speaker 5: Nashville with SEC media days this week, and you could

30
00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,959
Speaker 5: just feel it coming. You're starting to get those stories

31
00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,479
Speaker 5: here and there from different places. It's just like, Yep,

32
00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,480
Speaker 5: this is the calm before the storm. But we're just

33
00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,800
Speaker 5: getting those few little seeds being planted that are going

34
00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,000
Speaker 5: to become redwood for us here in the next couple

35
00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,480
Speaker 5: of weeks and certainly over the next handful of months.

36
00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like this was the week. There's been

37
00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,000
Speaker 2: times this summer and spring obviously where you know, like

38
00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,840
Speaker 2: you get an NFL story and you feel like you

39
00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,600
Speaker 2: got to turn it into like a four day thing

40
00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,760
Speaker 2: to milk it, Like, Oh, Josh Allen responding to the haters. Uh,

41
00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,800
Speaker 2: you know, Sean McDermott, Stefan Diggs, he left training, he

42
00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:02,040
Speaker 2: left OTAs. What does it mean, Oh, Josh Allen responds

43
00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,360
Speaker 2: a month later, let's talk about that for a whole week.

44
00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,800
Speaker 2: So this week, I do feel like we got a

45
00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,960
Speaker 2: bunch of stuff. Obviously on the college level, you know,

46
00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,840
Speaker 2: SEC media Days took over, and we'll talk about the

47
00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,880
Speaker 2: PAC twelve at some point as well today. But I

48
00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:16,839
Speaker 2: do want to start in the NFL because it does

49
00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,280
Speaker 2: feel like there are three four things going on at once,

50
00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:25,600
Speaker 2: but nothing bigger than what has become America's next great

51
00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,920
Speaker 2: football rivalry, that is running backs versus the NFL and

52
00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,920
Speaker 2: the NFL establishment. So you know, this is a story,

53
00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:34,840
Speaker 2: So Jason, you know this is one. Like I said,

54
00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,120
Speaker 2: there were certain stories throughout the summer or in the

55
00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,800
Speaker 2: spring that felt like they were narratives that we kind

56
00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,520
Speaker 2: of dragged along. This one, I don't feel like we're

57
00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,480
Speaker 2: dragging along though, because there's new layers to it every

58
00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,000
Speaker 2: single day. So I think everybody kind of knows. But

59
00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,680
Speaker 2: but obviously, say Kwon Barkley, you know, the franchise tag

60
00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,240
Speaker 2: deadline was on Monday. He did not get a deal

61
00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,639
Speaker 2: beyond the franchise tag and certainly not one that he's

62
00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,800
Speaker 2: happy with. Then you have the audio coming out of

63
00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:03,880
Speaker 2: him going on a podcast saying I may have to

64
00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,160
Speaker 2: sit out. We found out on Monday that Austin Eckler

65
00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,600
Speaker 2: from the San Diego San Diego the LA Chargers. They

66
00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,600
Speaker 2: haven't been the San Diego charge for about four years now,

67
00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:17,160
Speaker 2: but the LA Chargers had put together a group text

68
00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:21,160
Speaker 2: and now the latest twist. Earlier today there is a

69
00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,200
Speaker 2: report from PFT Pro Football Talk that there is now

70
00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:28,480
Speaker 2: a zoom meeting between the top running backs in the

71
00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,680
Speaker 2: NFL and their representation trying to figure out is there

72
00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,840
Speaker 2: something that we can do to get more money? So,

73
00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,840
Speaker 2: you know, just it's a fascinating story, Jason, I have

74
00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,200
Speaker 2: a lot of different thoughts. We can get to Barkley

75
00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,360
Speaker 2: individually in a minute, but overall, what has your reaction

76
00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,400
Speaker 2: been all week to this story as NFL running backs

77
00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,160
Speaker 2: feel like they're getting squeezed out, that.

78
00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,440
Speaker 5: We've been building to this for a while, that this

79
00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,720
Speaker 5: is not any anything new in terms of it's not

80
00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,680
Speaker 5: like we learned anything new. This was not revelative. This

81
00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:07,240
Speaker 5: has grown over the years. You go back to Melvin

82
00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,800
Speaker 5: Gordon and what happened with that same Chargers organization several

83
00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,280
Speaker 5: years ago, betting on himself and then it not working

84
00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,240
Speaker 5: out for him, and just kind of the way it's

85
00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,280
Speaker 5: played out. I think I even told you over the

86
00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,039
Speaker 5: last few years on this program, that I felt like

87
00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:26,200
Speaker 5: wide receivers had become almost as valuable as anything else

88
00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,680
Speaker 5: in sports outside of the quarterback. That it was no

89
00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,640
Speaker 5: longer the running back, it was no longer you know,

90
00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,680
Speaker 5: three yards in a cloud of dust or anything like that.

91
00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,000
Speaker 5: That the game had changed, and that the rules had

92
00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,279
Speaker 5: changed to favor passing the football and going high octane

93
00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,600
Speaker 5: down the field to protect the quarterbacks as well as

94
00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,440
Speaker 5: to protect the wide receivers. But I think this is

95
00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,200
Speaker 5: my initial point, and then I want to hear some

96
00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:48,600
Speaker 5: of what you have to say and that I can

97
00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:53,560
Speaker 5: react to. That is, I don't think that the running

98
00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:58,520
Speaker 5: back position, meaning the job that they do, is less important.

99
00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:03,960
Speaker 5: I think that any individual name that does that job

100
00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:05,760
Speaker 5: is less important.

101
00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:07,039
Speaker 4: There are very few.

102
00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,400
Speaker 5: I mean, like Derrick Henry right here with the Titans

103
00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,880
Speaker 5: is one of the only ones. Because the offense is

104
00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:17,320
Speaker 5: still in many ways backwards compared to what's changed in.

105
00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,200
Speaker 4: Football, and it's worked very well for them.

106
00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,040
Speaker 5: I'm not suggesting backwards in a negative way, but that's

107
00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,520
Speaker 5: just not how most people and most offenses a run

108
00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,479
Speaker 5: in the NFL, So he's kind of a bit different.

109
00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,640
Speaker 5: But unless you're a hybrid guy like a Christian McCaffrey

110
00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,720
Speaker 5: type or something like that. I just feel like generally

111
00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,000
Speaker 5: that is a position that is viewed as, oh, we'll

112
00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,440
Speaker 5: go find somebody else that can do that, as opposed

113
00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,400
Speaker 5: to that's where we're going to commit a ton of

114
00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,400
Speaker 5: money and we're going to commit a ton of resources.

115
00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,360
Speaker 2: So that is actually, you know, in general, just kind

116
00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,920
Speaker 2: of my takeaway as well is two things. Is one,

117
00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,600
Speaker 2: I was a little surprised at the initial wave earlier

118
00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,120
Speaker 2: this week of you know, the these poor running backs,

119
00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,680
Speaker 2: and it's like, listen, I don't want anybody not to

120
00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,200
Speaker 2: get paid. First of all, By the way, Sakuon Barkley

121
00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,680
Speaker 2: is going to clear close to fifty million dollars in

122
00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,279
Speaker 2: his career by the end of this year, even with

123
00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,200
Speaker 2: the franchise tag, assuming he shows up. So you know,

124
00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,720
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that everybody is getting his money. And

125
00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,320
Speaker 2: I do think there is an element of exactly what

126
00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,640
Speaker 2: you just said with Derrick Henry is that I do

127
00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,440
Speaker 2: think Derek Henry is kind of the extreme outlier one

128
00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,520
Speaker 2: because he's just so physically intimidating and so physically imposing

129
00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,560
Speaker 2: that he is the guy that can probably play into

130
00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,320
Speaker 2: his late twenties early thirties and still have great value

131
00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,960
Speaker 2: also with a team that doesn't have great quarterback play

132
00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:38,479
Speaker 2: and a team that is very much in a super

133
00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,880
Speaker 2: Bowl window right now. So I do think Derek Henry

134
00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,719
Speaker 2: is kind of the outlier. And you obviously, look, you

135
00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,920
Speaker 2: do feel bad for the other guys. I'm not here

136
00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,839
Speaker 2: to say that you don't, but I guess my first

137
00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,960
Speaker 2: reaction earlier this week is exactly that is, like, I

138
00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,760
Speaker 2: do feel bad. I do wish it was different, but

139
00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,279
Speaker 2: to think that it should be or will be different,

140
00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,479
Speaker 2: like you said, we've been on this narrative for a

141
00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,640
Speaker 2: decade plus now. I remember when Todd Gurley got drafted

142
00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,960
Speaker 2: a million years ago. It was literally a decade ago,

143
00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,400
Speaker 2: and it was like, oh my goodness, they took Todd

144
00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,880
Speaker 2: Gurley in the top ten. Can't believe that they actually

145
00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,480
Speaker 2: did that. It's like that was the two thousand and

146
00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,640
Speaker 2: fourteen NFL Draft, twenty fifteen NFL Draft, Like that's eight

147
00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,880
Speaker 2: years ago that we were talking about that with Todd Gurley.

148
00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:29,280
Speaker 2: So the idea that this is somehow a new thing

149
00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,520
Speaker 2: I just don't get. And I guess you know, and

150
00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,080
Speaker 2: I'll toss it back to you with that is like

151
00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:36,720
Speaker 2: I feel bad for these guys.

152
00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:37,400
Speaker 4: I do.

153
00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,360
Speaker 2: I want everybody to get paid. But at the same time,

154
00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,920
Speaker 2: it's also like, you know, this is this is where

155
00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:45,960
Speaker 2: we are, This is where the sport is the analogy

156
00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:47,920
Speaker 2: that I used earlier in the week, Like you and

157
00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,280
Speaker 2: I are in the media business, right and and you know,

158
00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:56,000
Speaker 2: it's always unfortunate when some newspaper somewhere in the country

159
00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,520
Speaker 2: like has layoffs, Like you never see anybody lose a

160
00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,760
Speaker 2: job or not get what they believe value is their value.

161
00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,920
Speaker 2: But it's like if you're still a newspaper writer trying

162
00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,840
Speaker 2: to figure out why you can't keep your job even

163
00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,760
Speaker 2: when you are good at your it's like the industry

164
00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,680
Speaker 2: has changed. Everything has changed, the job has changed. And

165
00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,280
Speaker 2: so it's not that I don't feel bad for running backs.

166
00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,240
Speaker 2: It's that this is the reality and I don't see

167
00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,400
Speaker 2: anything changing, Jason, if that makes.

168
00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,320
Speaker 5: Sense, Yeah, no, I agree. I mean I think this

169
00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,360
Speaker 5: is just again, this is something that we have seen

170
00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,920
Speaker 5: kind of become more and more of a thing the

171
00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,520
Speaker 5: more years that have passed and the more bad deals

172
00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,160
Speaker 5: that have been signed as well, the kind of buyers

173
00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,560
Speaker 5: are morse on. A lot of these guys why was

174
00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,160
Speaker 5: the Jamir Gibbs selection for the Lions criticized the way

175
00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,679
Speaker 5: that it was. It wasn't because Gibbs can't play as

176
00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,960
Speaker 5: much as it was when he was taken. Because at

177
00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,000
Speaker 5: this point, if you take a running back high, it's

178
00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,280
Speaker 5: going to be talked about. When the Giants took Sakuon Barkley,

179
00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,640
Speaker 5: I said, well, they just took a luxury car, but

180
00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,640
Speaker 5: they don't have anything that can get them to work.

181
00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:58,760
Speaker 5: Like they didn't have a quarterback, so they didn't have

182
00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,040
Speaker 5: the luxury of taking a running back. But there are

183
00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:05,200
Speaker 5: so few guys that you even talk about in the

184
00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:09,320
Speaker 5: mix that way. It's just the job itself has changed,

185
00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,520
Speaker 5: And you're right, I think it's a good comparison to

186
00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,360
Speaker 5: the old school kind of shoe leather journalists and that

187
00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:19,520
Speaker 5: kind of thing, especially on sportsbeed. Everything has shifted, and

188
00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,440
Speaker 5: if you're an editor for a newspaper you might want

189
00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,520
Speaker 5: to polish up the resume at some point because they're

190
00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,040
Speaker 5: now going down to we're not doing saturdays anymore, We're

191
00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,360
Speaker 5: only doing one on the weekends. We're only delivering three

192
00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:34,160
Speaker 5: days a week. Stuff has changed. The job is still important,

193
00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,199
Speaker 5: but no one's going to get that kind of money

194
00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,120
Speaker 5: anymore to do that job, because again I just think

195
00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:44,880
Speaker 5: that I feel like the position is viewed as interchangeable

196
00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:49,120
Speaker 5: at this point by most Again Tennessee, I think values

197
00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,000
Speaker 5: it differently. But even there, I think at the very

198
00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,040
Speaker 5: at the very least, they were looking around to see

199
00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,200
Speaker 5: if anybody wanted the Dereck Henry experience for the right

200
00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,640
Speaker 5: offer on their side. But then you look at like

201
00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,320
Speaker 5: a McCaffrey, and that works really well for San Francisco.

202
00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,560
Speaker 5: The other thing we haven't talked about it is running

203
00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:10,400
Speaker 5: backs get hit basically every play they don't score, and

204
00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,839
Speaker 5: as such, with the amount of touches that they get,

205
00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,839
Speaker 5: they get hit a lot. Derrick Henry carry in the

206
00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:18,880
Speaker 5: ball thirty times a game is gonna get hit, you know,

207
00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,600
Speaker 5: twenty seven of them and score the other three if

208
00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,360
Speaker 5: he's not going out of bounds. The injury risk and

209
00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:28,520
Speaker 5: the fact that the average running back career is less

210
00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,160
Speaker 5: than you know, it's like right at three years or

211
00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,439
Speaker 5: a little bit less. And that's not because they're not good.

212
00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,000
Speaker 5: It's just because again it's an interchangeable position, and they

213
00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,000
Speaker 5: wear you out, or they used to. So I just

214
00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,600
Speaker 5: think that you still got to have a running back

215
00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,040
Speaker 5: to win in this league. But you don't have to

216
00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,360
Speaker 5: have a first ballot Hall of Fame running back to

217
00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:48,560
Speaker 5: win in this league anymore.

218
00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:49,800
Speaker 4: And I think that's the shift.

219
00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the stat that Colin Cowhard brought up

220
00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,040
Speaker 2: the last guy to lead the NFL in rushing and

221
00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,800
Speaker 2: also make the playoffs, maybe that's not exactly right. Shot

222
00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:02,160
Speaker 2: up Alexander. Basically, it was like, you know, great running

223
00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,320
Speaker 2: back and this is going back now decades, and so

224
00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,240
Speaker 2: you look at the guys who lead the league. Maybe

225
00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,240
Speaker 2: it's not make I think it was make the super Bowl,

226
00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:09,640
Speaker 2: but you get the.

227
00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,839
Speaker 5: Point playoffs because that would have been Dereck Henry two

228
00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:12,920
Speaker 5: years ago exactly.

229
00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,320
Speaker 2: So the point is, though, is that these are not

230
00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,440
Speaker 2: guy These are guys that are very val This is

231
00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,640
Speaker 2: exactly what you said, and I was gonna say it incorrectly.

232
00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,439
Speaker 2: It is a position that is still very valuable, yet

233
00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,719
Speaker 2: the individual playing it becomes less and less valuable. I'd

234
00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,520
Speaker 2: add this too. I thought our buddy Dan Byer, who

235
00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,520
Speaker 2: obviously everyone will probably hear I think he's in tomorrow,

236
00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,000
Speaker 2: brought up this point to me earlier this week. I

237
00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,400
Speaker 2: thought it was an interesting point. You know, Austin Eckler,

238
00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:42,560
Speaker 2: who's obviously leading this charge, you know, is a guy

239
00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,600
Speaker 2: that very much benefited from the current system, right. I mean,

240
00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,320
Speaker 2: you look at how he entered this league, you know,

241
00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,800
Speaker 2: and you know, he entered as a guy that was

242
00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,040
Speaker 2: not drafted and then, oh, by the way, is able

243
00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:59,000
Speaker 2: to have an opportunity with the with the Chargers. Melvin

244
00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,840
Speaker 2: Gordon gets pushed out out and this is where his

245
00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,520
Speaker 2: opportunity presents stuff. So it's not to say that we're

246
00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,600
Speaker 2: rooting against the running back position, but it is to

247
00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,880
Speaker 2: say that it is an evolving position. And as you said, Jason,

248
00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,800
Speaker 2: the position is still important, but the individual playing it

249
00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,400
Speaker 2: is less and less as time goes. On Fox Sports

250
00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,319
Speaker 2: Radio Erontors Jason Martin broadcasting live from the tire rack

251
00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:24,280
Speaker 2: dot Com studios. Speaking of which, we are one week

252
00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,880
Speaker 2: into our Summer of tire Racksweepstakes. That means that Fox

253
00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,680
Speaker 2: Sports Radio and tire rack dot Com are giving away

254
00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,800
Speaker 2: a set of four brand new tires valued it up

255
00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,640
Speaker 2: to fifteen one hundred dollars this week. A winner will

256
00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,440
Speaker 2: be picked on Sunday to win a set of four

257
00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:44,080
Speaker 2: tires plus installation taxes and fees valued at up to

258
00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:48,280
Speaker 2: fifteen hundred dollars. As I just said, enter daily, which

259
00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,240
Speaker 2: gets you a new entry into the contest every single

260
00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,360
Speaker 2: day at Fox Sports Radio dot Com to boost your chances.

261
00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,840
Speaker 2: After this week, two more winners will have a chance

262
00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,960
Speaker 2: to win through August twenty seventh for again a set

263
00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,840
Speaker 2: of four brand new tires. To enter and get the rules,

264
00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:07,520
Speaker 2: visit Foxsports Radio dot com sponsored by tire rack dot Com.

265
00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,400
Speaker 2: The Way Tire Buying should be coming up, Jason, we

266
00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,920
Speaker 2: just talked a little bit about that running back conundrum

267
00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,520
Speaker 2: from this week. I do want to dive specifically into

268
00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,760
Speaker 2: Saquon Bark because I have an interesting question I want

269
00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,840
Speaker 2: to post to you if maybe Saquon is different and

270
00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,000
Speaker 2: maybe if he has a legitimate gripe to pick. We'll

271
00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,600
Speaker 2: discuss that next erin Torres, Jason Martin, Fox Sports Radio.

272
00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:29,160
Speaker 4: Hey, what's up everybody.

273
00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,800
Speaker 6: It's me three time pro bowler LeVar Arrington and I

274
00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,480
Speaker 6: couldn't be more excited to announce a podcast called Up

275
00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:36,080
Speaker 6: on Game?

276
00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,760
Speaker 2: What is up on Game? You asked, along with my

277
00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:43,200
Speaker 2: fellow pro bowler TJ. Huschman Zada and Super Bowl champion.

278
00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,640
Speaker 6: Yep, that's right, Plexico Burris, you can only name a

279
00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,760
Speaker 6: show with that type of talent on it. Up on Game,

280
00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,400
Speaker 6: We're going to be sharing our real life experiences loaded

281
00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,280
Speaker 6: with teachable moments. Listen to Up on Game with me

282
00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,560
Speaker 6: LeVar Arrington, TJ. Huschman Zada and that's what to Coe

283
00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:05,560
Speaker 6: Burrs on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you

284
00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,240
Speaker 6: get your podcast from.

285
00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,640
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

286
00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,000
Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio

287
00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:19,240
Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

288
00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:20,040
Speaker 1: listen live.

289
00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:27,640
Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Aeron Torres Jason Martin

290
00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:32,520
Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the Tireck dot com studios for people

291
00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,400
Speaker 2: who do not know what this is, uh stepping out?

292
00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:40,960
Speaker 4: Yes late, great, right there.

293
00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,920
Speaker 2: Yes, Tony Bennett did passed away yesterday, a music icon

294
00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:49,160
Speaker 2: at the age of ninety six. Uh, like you said,

295
00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:53,200
Speaker 2: an icon, a legend. Just wanted Jason. I know you're

296
00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,640
Speaker 2: a little bit more into music and pop culture than

297
00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,640
Speaker 2: I am, but even I'm smart enough to know the

298
00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,520
Speaker 2: legend of Tony Bennett, who he was, what he meant

299
00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,880
Speaker 2: to music, Frank Sinatra's favorite singer. So I just wanted

300
00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,640
Speaker 2: to very quickly honor him to lead this segment, Jason.

301
00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,800
Speaker 2: But Tony Bennett again passed away yesterday at ninety six.

302
00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,000
Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, there's not much say other than what

303
00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,240
Speaker 5: you did. He is an absolute legend. He inspired a

304
00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,600
Speaker 5: lot of folks and always good to hear a little

305
00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:22,160
Speaker 5: krooner Yeah here and there, Like you don't get it.

306
00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,800
Speaker 5: There's some times, Siria, my wife and I will we'll

307
00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,840
Speaker 5: pull out Frank, We'll pull out Dean Martin, We'll pull

308
00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,920
Speaker 5: out some of that kind of stuff from the past

309
00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,040
Speaker 5: and just kind of put it on underneath some good

310
00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,800
Speaker 5: There's a lot of really good, kind of timeless feeling

311
00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,320
Speaker 5: music and like stepping out perfect thing to clean your house,

312
00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:41,600
Speaker 5: to sure I need if you need an excuse, you know,

313
00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,280
Speaker 5: pick up a broom or something like that and put

314
00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:44,800
Speaker 5: on some good kroon and you'll be all right.

315
00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right? Did Tony Bennett again, passing away at

316
00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,480
Speaker 2: ninety six years old. We'll mix some Tony Bennett in

317
00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,080
Speaker 2: throughout the night for our audience. Here, let's get back

318
00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,800
Speaker 2: to football, Jason. So, Jason, you know I told you

319
00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:00,840
Speaker 2: before the show you and I were just talking, is

320
00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,480
Speaker 2: I've actually switched my opinion on this not only the

321
00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,880
Speaker 2: running back conversation, but the Saquon Barkley conversation probably two

322
00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:11,680
Speaker 2: or three times over the last couple of days. And

323
00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,480
Speaker 2: my main belief is still exactly what I just told

324
00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:19,640
Speaker 2: you a minute ago. Is that is that listen. It's

325
00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,200
Speaker 2: it's a position that listen. The money's just not there,

326
00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,200
Speaker 2: and we can complain about it, we can cry about it,

327
00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,320
Speaker 2: we can be sad about it. It's just a reality

328
00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,800
Speaker 2: of the situation. But I was thinking about it from

329
00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:36,400
Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley's perspective specifically, Okay, and why I think Saquon

330
00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,800
Speaker 2: maybe uniquely has a reason to be frustrated. I was

331
00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,240
Speaker 2: thinking about this yesterday, and by the way, this is just,

332
00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,120
Speaker 2: you know, a thought. I'm not convinced of it, and

333
00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,880
Speaker 2: tell me if I'm wrong. I think there is an

334
00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,960
Speaker 2: element to listen, There's only so much money to go around.

335
00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,800
Speaker 2: It's a salary cap league. That's how it works. So

336
00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,440
Speaker 2: if for it's somebody like Austin Eckler, where clearly the

337
00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,000
Speaker 2: organization is built around Justin Herbert and everything that he does,

338
00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,080
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert's gonna get paid, gotta pay the offensive. You know,

339
00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,200
Speaker 2: there's a lot of pieces you know, Joey Bosa is

340
00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,160
Speaker 2: on an expensive contract. Whatever. What I was thinking about

341
00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:13,000
Speaker 2: with Saquon Barkley though, is this, is there any element

342
00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:18,879
Speaker 2: to him specifically having an argument, Hey, I am underpaid,

343
00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,680
Speaker 2: I am not the typical running back because of the

344
00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:27,199
Speaker 2: fact that Daniel Jones at his best is probably you know,

345
00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,040
Speaker 2: like a C plus quarterback, and Sequon would never say that.

346
00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,480
Speaker 2: And I don't think it's anything personal against Saquon but

347
00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,240
Speaker 2: against Daniel Jones. But I was thinking about this is that,

348
00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,240
Speaker 2: you know, Daniel Jones gets that extension a few months back.

349
00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:44,400
Speaker 2: Eighty two million dollars guaranteed for a quarterback that needs

350
00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,080
Speaker 2: everything around him to go right, the right play caller,

351
00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,680
Speaker 2: a healthy Saquon Barkley, a good offensive line, a good defense, whatever.

352
00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,000
Speaker 2: Eighty two million guaranteed, thirty six million dollars signing bonus.

353
00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,920
Speaker 2: And I guess I just wanted from Saquon's perspective, if

354
00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,960
Speaker 2: he was even with the Cowboys, right, Like, you know,

355
00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:03,600
Speaker 2: Tony Poller is going through this and it's like, well,

356
00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,080
Speaker 2: the Cowboys, you know, you pay dak a ton of money.

357
00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,760
Speaker 2: Michael Parsons is coming up. Whatever, is there an argument

358
00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:14,639
Speaker 2: from Saquan's perspective of like, look, I get that my

359
00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:20,320
Speaker 2: position's value isn't what it once was, but also that

360
00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:26,080
Speaker 2: I also, disproportionately to this specific team, have more value

361
00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,280
Speaker 2: than the average individual running back does. Again, not to

362
00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,440
Speaker 2: say he doesn't like Daniel Jones, not to say that

363
00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,960
Speaker 2: he thinks he should get quarterback money, but do you

364
00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,400
Speaker 2: think that he is thinking or should be thinking, Hey,

365
00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,600
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm not just a really good running

366
00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,719
Speaker 2: back on a really good team. I'm a really good

367
00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,000
Speaker 2: running back on a team that actually needs me, and

368
00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,040
Speaker 2: because of it, I should be compensated as such.

369
00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,200
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna understand the argument, and you certainly would

370
00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,400
Speaker 5: try to make that behind closed doors. That's not something

371
00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,760
Speaker 5: you'd say publicly, but it's definitely something you would use

372
00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,160
Speaker 5: in negotiations to say, what.

373
00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:56,960
Speaker 4: Are you without me?

374
00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,280
Speaker 5: And that's that's the leverage that you have when you

375
00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,960
Speaker 5: have a quarterback that I think both of us, Aaron

376
00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,080
Speaker 5: are a little skeptical that Daniel Jones has more to

377
00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:10,000
Speaker 5: show than we've seen. If he's able to play to

378
00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,760
Speaker 5: the level that he played last season for the next

379
00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,240
Speaker 5: five years, that's gonna be a win. I think I

380
00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,359
Speaker 5: don't think that's a super Bowl winning quarterback or a

381
00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,480
Speaker 5: Super Bowl winning message as everything else goes right around him.

382
00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:26,560
Speaker 5: But as long as he does that repress, he'll be okay.

383
00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,199
Speaker 5: But nobody's putting him in the Patrick Mahomes category or

384
00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,080
Speaker 5: the Joe Burrow category or anything like that. So yeah,

385
00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,240
Speaker 5: I mean having a running back in that scenario is

386
00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,880
Speaker 5: certainly going to help you. Now here's what you say

387
00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,159
Speaker 5: back to sa Kwan Barkley when he makes the argument

388
00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,879
Speaker 5: that you just made, which I think was a solid argument.

389
00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,680
Speaker 5: Twenty four running backs two hundred plus carries this per

390
00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:50,840
Speaker 5: Pro Football Focus.

391
00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,320
Speaker 4: Then I'll give you football Outsiders.

392
00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:56,040
Speaker 5: He was seventh in rushing grade, twenty first in elusive rating,

393
00:19:56,119 --> 00:20:00,679
Speaker 5: nineteenth in yards after contact according to Football Outside. He

394
00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:05,400
Speaker 5: was thirtieth at the position in success rate, twenty first

395
00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:09,840
Speaker 5: in rushing DVOA, and inconsistent as a receiver five point

396
00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,360
Speaker 5: nine yards per catch, no touchdowns on fifty seven receptions.

397
00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,040
Speaker 5: He had a career low point nine to four yards

398
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 5: per route run. So again, I don't know how much

399
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,880
Speaker 5: of that's a function of Daniel Jones or the lack

400
00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,800
Speaker 5: of receiving talent or whatever it was. And the offensive

401
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,159
Speaker 5: line there is at best middling so you can include that,

402
00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:30,800
Speaker 5: but how much better are they going to be this

403
00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,560
Speaker 5: year at that position than they were last year? So

404
00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,560
Speaker 5: you look at it and you say, all right, Sae Kwon,

405
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,040
Speaker 5: you're right, you are important to what we do, but

406
00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 5: we're gonna need more than this. If we're gonna commit

407
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,359
Speaker 5: more than one year, we want to. It's like we

408
00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,119
Speaker 5: want to tag you because we want to keep you

409
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 5: here a little while longer, but we want to see

410
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,800
Speaker 5: a little bit more. And again, you don't want to

411
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,840
Speaker 5: be the team. You don't want to be the executive

412
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,000
Speaker 5: that inks a second or third deal for a running

413
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 5: back that is fairly lengthy because so many of them

414
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 5: do not work.

415
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that last point is the important one.

416
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 2: You know, Ezekiel Elliott, who you know has been as

417
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 2: synonymous with his team as anybody over the last probably

418
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 2: seven eight years, obviously no longer with his team, Dalvin Cook,

419
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 2: obviously a key part of a division division title last year,

420
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:24,199
Speaker 2: no longer with the with the Minnesota Vikings. Todd Gurley

421
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 2: we brought up earlier, you took you gave him a

422
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,920
Speaker 2: huge contract a few years ago, and I don't know

423
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:32,920
Speaker 2: if it was because McVay was sort of new there

424
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 2: or whatever, but felt obligated and it didn't age well.

425
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,920
Speaker 2: So it was just a thought I had with Barkley.

426
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 2: And I'll just kind of wrap this part of the

427
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 2: conversation by saying this is that, like, at the end

428
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,399
Speaker 2: of the day, as I said, you know, if my

429
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 2: numbers are right, this is a guy that will still

430
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:53,160
Speaker 2: even with the ten point nine million dollar franchise tag

431
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 2: if he takes it, if he shows up, if he plays,

432
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 2: this is still a guy that's gonna be closing in

433
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 2: on fifty million dollars earned since he became an NFL player.

434
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 5: Do you call his bluff? Let's ask that before we

435
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 5: get to Schiz Singer. Do you call his bluff if

436
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 5: you are the Giants organization, to see if he's actually

437
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 5: willing to back up the kind of veiled threat to

438
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,119
Speaker 5: sit out from the podcast.

439
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what we will discuss if I would

440
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 2: call Saquon Barkley's bluff coming up. Before we do that,

441
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,159
Speaker 2: let's toss it over the news desk, the saga, what's up, buddy,

442
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 2: what's trending?

443
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 7: Hello, gentlemen, we had quite a ballgame on Fox TV

444
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 7: for most of the country tonight.

445
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 5: I don't need to hear this.

446
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 7: They came in it in Milwaukee, where the Atlanta Braves,

447
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 7: with a record of sixty three and thirty three, had

448
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 7: the early lead. Austin Riley homered for the fifth straight game,

449
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 7: three run shot in the third, in fact, that ties

450
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,679
Speaker 7: for the longest set streak in the history of the

451
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,640
Speaker 7: Braves franchise. Milwaukee comes back for a four to three victory.

452
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 7: The Brewers are first in the NL Central game and

453
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 7: a half over the Reds. Cincinnati was a winner earlier

454
00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 7: today over Arizona four to two. Arizona and San Francisco

455
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 7: tied for second in the NL West. San Francisco lost

456
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 7: its game ten to one at Washington. Diamondbacks and Giants

457
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 7: are four games back of the first place Dodgers in

458
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 7: the NL West. Dodgers hit five home runs and won

459
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 7: at Texas sixteen to three. Ranger shortstop Corey Seeger, the

460
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 7: ex Dodger, goes on the injured list with a spraying thumb.

461
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 7: Baltimore's alone and first in the AL East a game

462
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 7: over the Rays after winning at Tampa Bay six to five.

463
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 7: Victories today for Colorado and the Cubs. Wins for San

464
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 7: Diego and Seattle the Yankees were tied with Kansas City

465
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 7: two to two, and the seventh Yanks won the game

466
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 7: five too, gen Carlos Stanton with a two run shot

467
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 7: in the eighth. The Mets in Boston split a pair.

468
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 7: Cleveland a won nothing winner over Philadelphia. The Phills offense

469
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 7: held the two hits, and Minnesota has won its game.

470
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 7: In fact, that's the first place Minnesota Twins we're talking about,

471
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 7: still two games out of Cleveland and the Al Central

472
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 7: Twins three to two beating the White Sox. So Minnesota's

473
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 7: record is up to a robust fifty two to forty eight.

474
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 7: There are two late games in Major League Baseball. Pirates

475
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 7: lead the Angels one nothing at Anaheim, top of the

476
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 7: fifth inning, D eight sho hey Otani zero for two

477
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 7: with two strikeouts, and the A's and Astros are scoreless

478
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 7: in the bottom of the fifth. I'll go ahead and

479
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 7: say out loud, the Oakland A's don't have a hit yet.

480
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,479
Speaker 7: Four walks, but they don't have a hit yet. Midway

481
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 7: through this game, and the A's have a record of

482
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 7: twenty seven and seventy three. Just for the record. Kansas

483
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 7: City Chiefs defensive lineman Chris Jones missed the start of

484
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:32,199
Speaker 7: training camp today wanting a contract extension. American Brian Harmon

485
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 7: leads the open by five strokes. He'll tee off at

486
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 7: nine to fifteen a m. Eastern time on Sunday. At

487
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 7: the Women's World Cup victories for England, Denmark, and Japan,

488
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 7: which won five nothing against Zambia FS one, We'll have

489
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 7: a doubleheader starting late tonight. The Americans next game is

490
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 7: Wednesday night against Netherlands on Fox TV.

491
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve Saga, Fox

492
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Er Tours. Jason Martin broadcasting

493
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,199
Speaker 2: live from thee tyreck dot Com studios. So before we

494
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 2: got to Disager, Jason asked me a very simple question.

495
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley earlier this week in a podcast interview did

496
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 2: say ef itt I just might not show up for

497
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 2: training camp. And so to answer your question, Jason, would

498
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 2: I call Saquon Barkley's bluff? I mean, I think I would.

499
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 2: I think I would, And I'll tell you why now.

500
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 2: I think the counter to why you wantn't is because

501
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 2: a topic that we'll discuss plenty here over the next

502
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 2: month to six weeks. The NFC is wide open and

503
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 2: I know the Eagles are in your division. I know

504
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 2: the Cowboys are in your division. But like you know,

505
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 2: the window might be right now in the NFC. You know,

506
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 2: something weird happens with Philly whatever, San Francisco. We don't

507
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 2: know what's going on with the quarterback position. Is brock

508
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 2: Purty healthy? All of a sudden, you know, you could

509
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 2: be in a very good situation if you're the New

510
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 2: York Giants and the Giants have you know, a somewhat

511
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 2: manageable schedule early in the season. You know, Cardinals, early

512
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 2: forty nine ers. We'll see what happens with with perty.

513
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 2: As I said, why I don't think I would though,

514
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 2: Why I think I would call his bluff is a

515
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 2: few reasons is we are still talking about eleven million

516
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 2: dollars that would be on the table, essentially a little

517
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 2: under eleven million dollars for a running back that will

518
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,959
Speaker 2: be twenty seven years old by the end of this season.

519
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 2: And we're also talking about a guy that is a

520
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 2: player that is very, very very talented, a great not

521
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 2: only running back but wide receiver, but also a guy

522
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 2: that missed an entire season, has missed multiple games in

523
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty one and twenty nineteen seasons, So I

524
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 2: get bye. By the way, credit to Saquon for trying

525
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 2: to strike while the irons Hot team played well. He

526
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 2: was a big part of it. They beat Minnesota in

527
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 2: the divisional round. They go to the second round of

528
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 2: the playoffs. At this or the wildcard weekend into the

529
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 2: second round. I bring it up to say, there's also

530
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 2: a track record that you may have just gotten the

531
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 2: best version of Saquon Barkley, and as weird as it

532
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 2: sounds at twenty six years old, going on twenty seven,

533
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 2: that you are paying for past production as much as

534
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 2: you would be few production, if that makes sense.

535
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, that's right. So you've got what Matt Brida,

536
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 5: Eric Gray, the rookie originally in Tennessee then went to Oklahoma,

537
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 5: Gary Brightwell, that's who I think their backfield is. If

538
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 5: Barkley is going to sit out, I am curious to see,

539
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 5: and I think I would call his bluff two just

540
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 5: because everything that he has always said has been very

541
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 5: team oriented. He's always been a pretty good dude. I

542
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 5: remember we interviewed him the morning of the NFL Draft

543
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 5: the year he went number two on Fox Sports. Actually,

544
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 5: when Klay was still there and I was the EP

545
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 5: and he couldn't have been a nicer guy.

546
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 4: And I don't think that that's really changed.

547
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 5: I think that generally speaking, it's now a business and

548
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 5: now he has to do business. I don't think that

549
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 5: he's lost any love for the organization or anything else.

550
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 5: He just wants to be paid. And here's the other thing.

551
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 5: This whole thing is about guaranteed money for say Kwon Barkley,

552
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 5: and it's gonna be about guaranteed money, particularly for running

553
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 5: backs pretty much forever. It's always gonna be about get

554
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 5: the money now, because we know we play in a

555
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 5: sport in a position where we get hurt a lot

556
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 5: and sake. One's out of torn acl a torn MCL.

557
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 5: He's missed significant time throughout his career, and last year

558
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 5: I think he led the league in touches from the

559
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 5: running back position. If not, he's right near the top.

560
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 5: So he had a high usage rate last year with

561
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 5: Brian Dable and year one again with a middling offensive line.

562
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 5: So that's the other thing is I want to get

563
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 5: paid now, and I want to make sure that that

564
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 5: money is guaranteed against what could happen to me, because

565
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 5: you're one injury away at that position from not.

566
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 4: Being yourself again.

567
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 5: Even if you come back from it, even if it

568
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 5: doesn't seem like it's career threatening, you come back, you're

569
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 5: not quite as fast anymore. That can affect it as well.

570
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 5: So a lot of this and he even said on

571
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 5: that podcast to read between the lines. In general, what

572
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 5: he's saying is I want the money up front. I

573
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 5: want this money to be guaranteed no matter what, And

574
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 5: that I think is where the impasse is.

575
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 2: I just I also think too, is that. Listen, if

576
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 2: you're the Giants, you don't want to take this approach.

577
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 2: But I'll also say, like, did you just get like

578
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 2: did everything break right last year? First year head coach?

579
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 2: You know, they kind of take the league by storm.

580
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones looks like a new guy, Saquon plays healthy.

581
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 2: And here's the other part that needs to be considered.

582
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 2: They played against the last play schedule last year, which

583
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 2: allowed them to have the nine seven in one. By

584
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 2: the way, after all that, they went nine to seven

585
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 2: and one, and look at the wins now. Admittedly at

586
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 2: Tennessee good good start this season. Carolina stunk, Chicago stunk

587
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 2: beat Green Bay. When Rogers was kind of going through

588
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 2: the weird stuff and whatever Jacksonville before Jacksonville really figured

589
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 2: it out. Houston a tie against the Washington Commanders, win

590
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 2: against Washington, win against Indianapolis. I mean, we're talking about

591
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 2: the bottom of the bear. So again, I don't think

592
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 2: the Giants want to go in like, wow, we really

593
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 2: kind of overachieved last year and we're not gonna be

594
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 2: as good next year. But I guess that's my big

595
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 2: concern is as weird as it's like again, like you

596
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: want to capitalize because this is probably the window, especially

597
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 2: with Saquan as a key piece to what you're doing.

598
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 2: The NFC is down, I get all that. I also

599
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 2: think you can realistically say, as the Giants, like we

600
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 2: kind of had everything break right last year and still

601
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 2: ended up nine to seven and one and eking into

602
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 2: the playoffs.

603
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 5: You know, yeah, no, that's right, and that's certainly gonna

604
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 5: change this year. And they also are not going to

605
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 5: have the benefit of catching people off guard who don't

606
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 5: think they're gonna be good. Not that they're gonna be

607
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 5: some world beater, but they're gonna be taken more seriously

608
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 5: from the first quarter on. And I'm not saying that

609
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 5: any NFL teams takes takes team lightly, but they know

610
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 5: now they're gonna be in for a fight, so they're

611
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 5: gonna be even more dialed in, potentially more focused. Everything's

612
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 5: gonna be harder, And I do think that there are

613
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 5: gonna be some some defenders out there that want to

614
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 5: show that last year's Daniel Jones is not indicative of

615
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 5: what he's gonna be for the rest of his career.

616
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 5: They want to kind of, you know, bring that thing back,

617
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 5: and they've had another year to watch him, and of

618
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 5: course he's had a year with Brian Dabeles, so we're

619
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 5: gonna find out whether or not Dabill really has been

620
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 5: able to develop him to a degree where the best

621
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 5: is yet to come. You also see and I saw

622
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 5: this on one of the gambling websites as a matter

623
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 5: of fact, saying that the expectation for Barkley is not

624
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 5: a massive decline this year, but that he's already peaked

625
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 5: in his career based on history of running backs, the injuries,

626
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 5: the usage rate, all of the factors that the analytics

627
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 5: guys you know, go nuts over that he's already probably

628
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 5: played his best season and now he's going to be

629
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 5: on a very slow decline that then might become.

630
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 4: More and more.

631
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 5: And I think that's always going to be the leverage

632
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 5: for an organization against that position. Particularly is it generally

633
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 5: just is very short lived where you're that good because

634
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 5: we're just not in the mid nineties anymore or even

635
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 5: the late nineties where it just it was a totally

636
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 5: different game than it is now.

637
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 2: With anything you said, obviously, we will see what happens

638
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 2: with Saquan. It's gonna be fascinating to follow. As again,

639
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 2: the Giants sort of have an open window, but sort

640
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 2: of don't. Fox Sports Radio ertors Jason Martin, broadcasting live

641
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 2: from the TIREC dot Com Studios. Coming up overseas, Golf

642
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 2: British Open. Tell you this, I got a thought on

643
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 2: the British Open. Something something struck me about the British

644
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 2: Open today really kind of blew my mind. We'll discuss

645
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 2: that next. Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports

646
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 2: Radio er Tors Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the TIREC

647
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 2: dot Com Studios. We got to reuse this for the intro,

648
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 2: and we talk Lane Kiffin because all Lane Kiffin did

649
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 2: was talk about money at SEC Media Days this week.

650
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 2: We will discuss that early in hour two. Of course,

651
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 2: Jason Martin eron Torres broadcasting live from the TIREC dot

652
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 2: com studios. We will be on till two am Eastern time,

653
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: and next hour we will talk a little bit about

654
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 2: both PAC twelve and SEC media days. Jason, I want

655
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 2: to I want to just go very quickly to golf.

656
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 2: I know you are much more of the golf officionado

657
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 2: than I am, and I you know, I want your

658
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 2: analysis on what's actually going out on the course. But

659
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 2: something struck me today while I was watching a little

660
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 2: bit of the Open Championship. I call it the British Open,

661
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 2: but they don't like it being called the British Show.

662
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 2: I want to be called the Open Championship whatever. What

663
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 2: I realized is I think it's my favorite random sporting event.

664
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: Now when I say random, you know, listen, there's nothing

665
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 2: like you know, the first day of March Madness. There's

666
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 2: nothing like Opening Day Major League Baseball, you know, Sunday

667
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: at Augusta like like those are the mainstream whatever. But

668
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 2: there's something about the British Open. The early early tea times,

669
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: especially for us here on the West Coast, you wake

670
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 2: up and it's going the fact that you know, golf

671
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 2: is this pristine game that's supposed to be played under

672
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 2: perfect conditions, and you go over there and you got

673
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 2: the it's always cold and damp and rainy and windy,

674
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 2: and it feels like it's the one.

675
00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 5: You know.

676
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 2: I know, the US Open is his story the toughest courses,

677
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 2: but it feels like the British Open is the one

678
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 2: where you're battling the elements the most. The courses just

679
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 2: look different. They have cool names, Royal Saint Andrew's and

680
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 2: you know, uh, Royal Troon whatever. I just love everything

681
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: about the British Shop. I just it's it's cool, it's fun.

682
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 2: It's totally different than anything else in golf, at least

683
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 2: mainstream golf. Such I'm a British Open guy. Jason's what

684
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 2: I realized today.

685
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,919
Speaker 5: Look, I like all of the argument that you just made.

686
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 5: I also like the fact that if you watch it

687
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 5: today or you watched it twenty five years ago, it

688
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 5: looks like it was shot.

689
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 4: With the same camera.

690
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 5: Sure, and that's because of the wind and the rain

691
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 5: and the elements and all of those kinds of things.

692
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 5: It just feels it feels kind of timeless. It feels

693
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 5: like you were watching something that I don't know. There's

694
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,240
Speaker 5: there's just a different quality to the Open Championship. Everything

695
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 5: else feels much more modern, but it's it's not necessarily

696
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 5: that one is better than the other, but there is

697
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 5: like a vintage feel to the Open Championship, which makes sense,

698
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 5: you know, if you know the history of golf and

699
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 5: the importance of that championship and certainly that country to

700
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 5: everything that's going on in the game of golf.

701
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 4: I just kind of look at all of it, and

702
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 4: it is very cool to wake up and the leaders

703
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 4: are like thirty minutes away from teeing off.

704
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 5: Sure it's not like you're waiting until three pm four

705
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 5: pm Eastern for the leaders to finally get off in

706
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 5: the US Open or whatever like that, depending on where

707
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 5: they're playing. I always used to like Thursday and Friday

708
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 5: the US Open because especially if ESPN had the coverage,

709
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 5: or once NBC got it and they were running it

710
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 5: on the Golf Channel as well, because they would start

711
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 5: around nine am and you get it all day. The

712
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 5: same thing when T and T had the PGA Championship

713
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 5: and they had the Open Championship for a while, and

714
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 5: you would see absolutely everything, and it would be early

715
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 5: in the morning and it would be played all day

716
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 5: and these are weekdays before you even get to the weekend,

717
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 5: but they're I was trying to think if if I

718
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 5: had one that's different than that, not necessarily, like I

719
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 5: kind of agree. I mean, you there are certain things

720
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 5: that can happen weird, weird turn of events, but a

721
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 5: lot of them are because of things like rain delays

722
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 5: and stuff that you end up with crazy games being

723
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 5: played at one or two in the morning, So it's

724
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 5: not something that you get all that off. The Australian

725
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,959
Speaker 5: Open sure would be another example because that's French played

726
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 5: in the middle of the night.

727
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 2: The French is kind of cool too, just because it's clay,

728
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 2: and it's like it's the only events where they're like clay,

729
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 2: you know.

730
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's true.

731
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 5: I mean, and Wimbledon's on grass and that's not something

732
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 5: that's played generally throughout the year. Uh and most people

733
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 5: listening here have probably never.

734
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 4: Played on a grass court.

735
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 5: So I mean, there are there are those kinds of

736
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 5: things that feel a little gimmicky or just kind of original,

737
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 5: But the Open Championship what it means and just the

738
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 5: prestige involved in it and the history involved in it,

739
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 5: and a lot of the stories that you get during

740
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 5: open coverage, like when they go back historically and tell

741
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 5: you about the greats and the moments that have happened

742
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 5: and the Jean van Develt moment and all that. I

743
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 5: think that that right there just kind of plays to

744
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 5: like a storybook feel to everything that goes on there.

745
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 5: If there's a certain dignity to it as well, it's

746
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 5: just kind of it kind of feels different. It's like

747
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 5: for men, that's our royal family. Like people getting up

748
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 5: to watch Charles, people getting up to watch the coronation.

749
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,919
Speaker 5: A few months ago, my wife went with a couple

750
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 5: of friends. They got together and had a party for

751
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 5: the coronation. Oh and good for them, I mean, like,

752
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 5: I'm glad they enjoyed it. I slept and then I

753
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 5: woke up and took care of my daughter. But for men,

754
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 5: for guys, I think the British Open kind of qualifies,

755
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,479
Speaker 5: Like I'll set an alarm and get up and watch

756
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 5: some of the open if I had to, especially if

757
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 5: I was on the West Coast and it was early

758
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 5: and I had the ability to do it.

759
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 4: On Thursday, and Friday, because it is it's always.

760
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 5: Cool, and it just seems like everybody that goes over there,

761
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 5: actually the Americans that go over there really become very

762
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 5: reverent towards that, towards the group, towards the RNA, towards

763
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 5: the courses, towards the fans. There's a certain level of

764
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 5: respect that gets earned there, and it's fun to watch Carnousti.

765
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 2: By the way, another really cool guest course name. Do

766
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 2: you have a sporting event that like is sort of

767
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 2: random but you just totally dig it.

768
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know about random.

769
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 5: I mean I like curling, Okay, I dug curling in

770
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 5: the Winter Olympics, and I was a big time poker guy.

771
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 5: Like poker on TV is something I got very into.

772
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 5: I guess the biggest problem now is most of the

773
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 5: pros that I enjoyed watching and learning from, they're not

774
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 5: the ones making final tables anymore. They a lot of

775
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 5: them have moved on now they're analysts, and so you

776
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 5: have guys you've never heard of playing cards and that's

777
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 5: not to me quite as interesting, maybe not quite as entertaining.

778
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 4: There.

779
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 5: So there's I don't know, there's there's some things there

780
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 5: I'll tell you one weird thing that you're starting to

781
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 5: notice is NBC's running this like Game of the Week

782
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 5: for baseball at ten am Eastern Time on Sunday mornings

783
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 5: really or like eleven am or something like that. Yeah,

784
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 5: the Braves did it like a month ago or something.

785
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 5: It's like the America's Game of the Week or something.

786
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 2: That's interesting to me.

787
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 5: That's that's because it's earlier than any baseball games are

788
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 5: generally played, and it's just it's like a made for

789
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,240
Speaker 5: television kind of deal. And so I would say maybe

790
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,720
Speaker 5: something like that. Of course, ESPN just brought back slam

791
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 5: Ball yesterday, it sure did, so there you go.

792
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to think there's uh I think, uh yeah,

793
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 2: I'm looking right now. Looks like the NBNBC will have

794
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 2: a game at noon tomorrow San Diego at Detroit. So yeah, no,

795
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 2: I will say, I dig the British Open, and I

796
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 2: think we brought up a couple other go ones to Wimbledon,

797
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 2: French Open. Things like that. Just totally different than than

798
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 2: everything else that that is normally gets played. Now that

799
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about it, you could you could equate it

800
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 2: to like college basketball, like the Maui invitation wal just

801
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: totally different, which now that we're talking about that's obviously

802
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 2: a very cool event as well. So Fox Sports Radio

803
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 2: erin Tors Jason Martin. Coming up, we mentioned College Football

804
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 2: PAC twelve Media Days. You will not believe what the

805
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 2: commissioner said. That's next Fox Sports Radio.

806
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

807
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

808
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to

809
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 1: listen live.

810
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, our two Torres and Martin, Fox Sports Radio.

811
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from the Tirec dot Com studios

812
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 2: tyre dot com. We'll help you get there in unmatched selection,

813
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 2: fast free shipping, free road hazard protection, and over ten

814
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 2: thousand recommended installers Tirec dot com the way tire buying

815
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 2: should be. Again, Aaron Torres and Jason Martin, we are

816
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 2: taking you up until two am Eastern time. It is

817
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 2: our two for us. If you missed our one. We

818
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 2: talked a lot of NFL. We will get back to

819
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 2: NFL momentary Jason, but as you said to lead the show,

820
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,720
Speaker 2: a lot of college football. This week. SEC Media Days

821
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 2: was Monday through Thursday, Lane Kiffin had a lot to say.

822
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 2: We'll get to that in about twenty minutes from now.

823
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 2: I actually want to start with the much less covered

824
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 2: but you would argue maybe much more significant media day

825
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 2: this week, which was the PAC twelve. By the way,

826
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: it probably says a little something about the PAC twelve

827
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 2: that the SEC took four days. The PAC twelve squeezed

828
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 2: it all into one day yesterday in Las Vegas. But Jason,

829
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 2: you know, this has been a topic if people love

830
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 2: college sports, it's been a topic for like a year now,

831
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 2: is what is the future of the PAC twelve. USC

832
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 2: and UCLA announce they're leaving for the Big Ten about

833
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 2: a little over a year ago. Now, it was June thirtieth,

834
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, so they leave a little bit over

835
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 2: a year ago. The PAC twelve at that point immediately

836
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,959
Speaker 2: reopens its negotiating window to try and get a TV

837
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 2: deal done. Unfortunately, to this point there is no TV deal.

838
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 2: You know, for people who don't follow this stuff on

839
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 2: a day to day basis, the PAC twelve's current TV

840
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 2: deal expires after this coming athletics calendar, so basically through

841
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 2: the spring of twenty twenty four, there is no TV deal,

842
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 2: and so this is a conference that appears to be

843
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 2: very much on the brink. We've heard for months that

844
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 2: some schools may be flirting with the Big twelve. We

845
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 2: know that some schools have officially talked to them. Maybe

846
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 2: Oregon and Washington still trying to figure out a way

847
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 2: to get into the Big ten. But it's a conference

848
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 2: that appears somewhat on the brink, but also a conference

849
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 2: where the commissioner is adamant that things are moving in

850
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 2: the right direction, even though nothing is official yet. George Kliovkov,

851
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 2: the commissioner of the PAC twelve, spoke at Media Days yesterday.

852
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 2: Here's what he had to say about a new TV

853
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 2: rights deal.

854
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 8: I know there's been never ending speculation about the timing

855
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 8: of our media deals, but in the end, we're on

856
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 8: track to announce our deals had about the same time

857
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,760
Speaker 8: as everyone would have anticipated and predicted before the news

858
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 8: of conference realignment. I don't want the opportunity to be

859
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 8: missed today to talk about football. It's we're not announcing

860
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 8: NBA deal on purpose today because I want the focus

861
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 8: to be on football.

862
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 2: Jason, So I have two quick thoughts to that. On

863
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 2: the one hand, I get the idea that you can't

864
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 2: say anything until something becomes official. I get that until

865
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 2: the ink is dry, you can't name dollar amounts, you

866
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 2: can't name TV networks, you can't really share too much.

867
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 2: I will also say, as good as the Pac twelve

868
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 2: football product is, and it could be really good this year,

869
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 2: all anybody wants to know is what this TV deal is,

870
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 2: and so the idea that we're somehow keeping the focus

871
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 2: on football yesterday. I don't think that I am upset

872
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 2: with the commissioner because I don't know what else he

873
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,479
Speaker 2: was supposed to say. But I also think it's weird

874
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 2: to say, yeah, yeah, we're just totally focused on football,

875
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 2: that thing that all of you want answers on. That's

876
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 2: not what we're here for today. What did you make

877
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 2: of George klofcaus comments yesterday, Jason, I.

878
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 5: Mean, I understand why he said it. I also can

879
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 5: understand and I imagine he can why no one believes

880
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 5: it's that's sort of the issue.

881
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 4: Like he also said, was he upset?

882
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 5: Was he concerned about anybody maybe then leaving for the

883
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 5: Big twelve? He said, I'm not losing any sleepover it.

884
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 5: And one thing that he also has said about the

885
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 5: TV deal was getting the right deal has always been

886
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 5: more important to our board and to the conference than

887
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 5: getting the expeditious one. So getting the right deal over

888
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 5: getting the fast deal. Okay, well you better get the

889
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 5: right deal then, because you certainly aren't getting the fast deal.

890
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 5: Stuart Mandel the athletic rights until there's an actual signed

891
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 5: deal to announce with an actual dollar figure comparable to

892
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,439
Speaker 5: the Big twelves thirty one point seven million average. There's

893
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 5: a little evidence for anyone outside the league's boardrooms to

894
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 5: believe Cleivkov's assertion that I just quoted to you about

895
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 5: getting the right deal being more important than getting expeditious deal. Yeah,

896
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 5: you're right, Yeah, you do want to get the right deal.

897
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 5: But we are very curious about this because it does

898
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 5: kind of feel like the PAC twelve is sort of

899
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 5: the full crim on a seesaw. But I'm not sure

900
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 5: we're on level ground anymore. Like if you're the full

901
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 5: crim on a seesaw but you're on like the down

902
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 5: slope of a mountain, it doesn't really matter. It does

903
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 5: feel like this thing's kind of teetering. There's some good

904
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 5: things here for the PAC twelve. They opened media day

905
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 5: with this video showing the quarterbacks that they have in

906
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 5: the conference. They've got Pennix Junior coming back. Of course

907
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 5: at Washington, they've got Bo Nicks, and then they've got

908
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 5: Caleb Williams, So they've got the football side of it.

909
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 5: Like the football, as you mentioned, Aaron should be really good.

910
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 5: But we're talking about the future of a conference where

911
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 5: we're looking around and if you're not the SEC or

912
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 5: the Big Ten, we're trying to figure out what your

913
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 5: strategy is. And we talked a couple of months ago

914
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 5: about how the Big twelve making their decision, Hey, we're

915
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,439
Speaker 5: gonna focus a little bit more on basketball. We both

916
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 5: thought was a brilliant play, a really really smart play

917
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 5: to go try and do something a little bit different

918
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 5: and own that which you're capable of with that.

919
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 4: Conference, with the way that it is now constructed. Everybody else.

920
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 5: We're looking at ACC We know you guys are caught

921
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 5: in a really bad television rights deal, and we're looking

922
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 5: at the Pac twelve and it's like, if this deal

923
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 5: comes back and it's garbage or it's not what the

924
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:37,720
Speaker 5: universities want, you'd better get real concern, real fast about

925
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 5: teams trying to find their way out of this thing

926
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 5: and trying to bolt.

927
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 2: That's my biggest concern is that the longer this goes,

928
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 2: the more you know, it's it's common sense. It's the

929
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 2: longer it goes, the more likely it is that somebody

930
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 2: just gets tired of waiting. And I think, you know,

931
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 2: everybody's saying all the right things, and listen, to be clear,

932
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 2: not everybody has options, right Like, you know, there's probably

933
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 2: a probably a you know, if there's ten teams left,

934
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 2: probably five or six of them don't really have an

935
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 2: option on the table right now. Maybe even more. You know,

936
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 2: Oregon State's hoping upon hope that this thing holds together,

937
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 2: Washington State is I think cal is, which obviously wouldn't

938
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 2: have a ton of options seemingly. But you know there

939
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 2: are teams that do have options. And I know it's

940
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 2: been reported, and you know, I've heard myself like Colorado

941
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 2: in part because of that Deon Sanders connection. Deon Sanders

942
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 2: obviously spent most of his adult life in Texas, played

943
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 2: for the Cowboys, live there. He wants into the Big twelve.

944
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 2: The Big Twelve seemingly would be interested in him. I

945
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 2: know that's counter to you know what you just said,

946
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 2: about basketball, but there is some football elements of this

947
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 2: as well. And so the only point I'm trying to

948
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 2: bring up, whether it is Colorado, whether it is Arizona

949
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 2: as more of a basketball school, whether it is Oregon

950
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 2: or Washington, somehow, you know, finding some opportunity. We don't

951
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 2: necessarily know who has what offers on the table, but

952
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 2: we know the Big twelve wants to expand. The commissioner.

953
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 2: They had their media days a week ago and their commissioner,

954
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 2: Bretty Ormark, said that he wants to go go to fourteen.

955
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,479
Speaker 2: They're gonna be after Texas and Oklahoma leave, They're gonna

956
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 2: be at twelve going forward. They add BYU Houston, Cincinnati

957
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 2: and UCF this year. They want at least two more.

958
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 2: And so we know that, whether whether we know the

959
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,280
Speaker 2: school specifically or not, we do know that other people

960
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 2: have offers, and that that's my only thing is that

961
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 2: I do think that I don't think I know. The

962
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:28,240
Speaker 2: longer this goes, the longer you keep promising us something,

963
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 2: the more time that these teams have to bail and

964
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 2: to go somewhere else. And oh, by the way, whether

965
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 2: it's because the deal's better, or whether it's just because

966
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 2: they they're they're tired of waiting and want to stabilize

967
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 2: their future. That would be my biggest concern.

968
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, and the other thing not I mean, I think

969
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 5: we've kind of hit on everything there. But the other

970
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 5: thing on the football side, in addition to your quarterbacks

971
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 5: and the fact that you have multiple playoff contenders potentially

972
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,240
Speaker 5: coming out of that conference, is you also have don

973
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 5: and you're gonna have the interest this year if your

974
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 5: product is good. That's I think the most important thing

975
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 5: for the PAC.

976
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 4: Twelve this year is to be really good.

977
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 5: Just be really good and not just be all USC.

978
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 5: You know, like if it's all USC, they're losing USC,

979
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 5: so that's not gonna help them. Also, read this idea

980
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 5: that if your Fox, if you're ESPN, if you're one

981
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 5: of the networks that could potentially bid on the PAC twelve,

982
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 5: maybe you want to sit back because you would rather

983
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 5: see some of the schools in the PAC twelve that

984
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 5: you really like or really see as valuable properties go

985
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 5: to one of these other conferences as opposed to bidding

986
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 5: for a conference that's gonna be viewed secondarily, especially once

987
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 5: the two California Schools league.

988
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 2: That's been my argument from day one, and I've said

989
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 2: this consistently, is you know, not to get super nerdy

990
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 2: in the weeds. But again, this is important stuff relative to,

991
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 2: you know, the college sports landscape is you know, I

992
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 2: think most people know going forward, but the Big ten

993
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 2: is going to be part of a Fox is going

994
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 2: to be, you know, kind of the signature thing that

995
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 2: Fox does. And on top of that, obviously NBC and

996
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 2: CBS as well the ESPN will have the SEC going forward.

997
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 2: There's only one conference that both Fox and ESPN, the

998
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 2: two big players in this space. There's only one conference

999
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 2: that has both that has There's only one conference that

1000
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 2: will have affiliations with both of those networks going forward.

1001
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 2: That's the Big Twelve. And that's what I've been saying

1002
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 2: is if your Fox and ESPN, I know, this is

1003
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 2: kind of a hat Fields and McCoy's thing. And by

1004
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 2: the way, I know we work for Fox Sports Radio. Jason.

1005
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 2: I don't want to speak for you, but I have

1006
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 2: no insight into what the biggest bosses at this company

1007
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,399
Speaker 2: are doing. I'm just conversating right now, so I don't

1008
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 2: want to make it sound like anything other than that

1009
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 2: we're not talking.

1010
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 4: With any kind of inside information.

1011
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 5: Here. We're just talking based on what we've observed, just

1012
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 5: like any of you.

1013
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 2: Have observed exactly. And so the Big twelve is the

1014
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 2: only one that has a deal going forward with ESPN

1015
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 2: and Fox, and so it benefits the two biggest players

1016
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 2: in this space for the Big Twelve to be as

1017
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 2: strong as possible. So I don't know who those schools

1018
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 2: would be. I don't know if Fox would prefer certain

1019
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 2: schools and ESPN would prefer others. Those are things that

1020
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 2: the biggest bosses at this company are having. But I

1021
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 2: just bring it up to say, I think that's an

1022
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 2: important point. It benefits both the big both Fox and

1023
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 2: ESPN to have the Big twelve as strong as it

1024
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 2: possibly can. And oh, by the way, if you're already

1025
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 2: paying for the Big twelve, and I'm sure they would

1026
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 2: have to restructure the contract if they add more teams,

1027
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 2: why not take, whether you deem it to be one, two,

1028
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 2: four teams from the Pac twelve that you deem to

1029
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 2: be valuable to the next set of TV deals or

1030
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 2: to the next TV contract, get those teams in the

1031
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 2: Big twelve and then go from there. Again, don't know

1032
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 2: who has an offer or whatever, but that's something I've

1033
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 2: always thought about when.

1034
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 5: It came to this, Jason, one other thing, does this

1035
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 5: hurt recruiting? If you're a PAC twelve university right now,

1036
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 5: you're not USC and you're not UCLA. In this argument

1037
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:56,280
Speaker 5: at least, does hurt recruiting because what are you selling

1038
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 5: to those families and to those young men they could

1039
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 5: dentially come to your university when you're under this kind

1040
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 5: of a cloud of uncertainty about the future of your conference,

1041
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,399
Speaker 5: about where your school's going to be, and if it's

1042
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 5: not an Oregon or somebody that might be an asset

1043
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 5: somewhere else. What if you're you know, in Arizona State

1044
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 5: or something like that, like a school like that, Like

1045
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 5: doesn't that potentially hurt your recruiting. For this to continue

1046
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 5: dangling out there longer and longer, and kind of reflecting

1047
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 5: more that the PAC twelve is not a hot enough

1048
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 5: product where people are just crawling over broken glass to

1049
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 5: bid on them.

1050
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 2: Well, it'll be interesting to follow because again, that uncertainty

1051
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 2: you would think has an impact on recruiting. There's some

1052
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 2: schools that listen organ always is been recruited at a

1053
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 2: high level. But I just think it's tough and you

1054
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 2: don't have answers, and there's a lot of great things

1055
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 2: at all of these universities to sell, but stability is

1056
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 2: obviously something and kids want to know. Parents want to

1057
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 2: know who you're going to be playing, what the schedule

1058
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 2: is going to look like, geographically, where the road games.

1059
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 2: I mean, these are things that matter to parents, matter

1060
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 2: to players, and so it's monitoring. But the PAC twelve,

1061
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 2: the commissioner seems to be confident that everything is trending

1062
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 2: in the right direction. I'll be honest, I'm not so sure.

1063
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Erintoris Jason Martin broadcasting live from the

1064
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 2: Tirec dot Com studios, and we are brought to you

1065
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 2: by Progressive Insurance. Progressive makes bundling easy and affordable. Get

1066
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 2: a multi policy discount by combining your motorcycle, RV, boat,

1067
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 2: ATV and more all your protection in one place. Bundle

1068
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 2: and save at Progressive dot Com. Coming up, we go

1069
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 2: from the PAC twelve to the SEC Ain't Kiffin, boy,

1070
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 2: oh boy, did he have a lot to say about

1071
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 2: the present and future of college football. That's next. Fox

1072
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 2: Sports Radio Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports Radio erin Torris

1073
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 2: Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tirec dot com studios.

1074
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 2: We are brought to you by Discover the end of

1075
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 2: your first year. Discover credit cards automatically double all the

1076
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 2: cashback you've earned. That's right, everything you've earned doubled. Seriously

1077
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 2: see terms of check it out for yourself at Discover

1078
00:53:56,040 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 2: dot com slash match. All right, Jason, So college football's coming,

1079
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 2: by the way, six Saturdays from week one, five saturdays

1080
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 2: from week zero, and as you said to lead the show,

1081
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 2: as we just discussed, you know, this feels like the

1082
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 2: week both NFL too. I mean, obviously the Jets reported,

1083
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 2: I assume Hard Knocks probably starts this week. It feels

1084
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 2: like football is in the air. And obviously from the

1085
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 2: college perspective, there is no better indicator of the fact

1086
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 2: that college football is coming than when we get SEC

1087
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 2: Media Day, which media days, excuse me, which obviously happened

1088
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 2: this week four days Monday through Thursday, with everybody from

1089
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 2: Nick Saban, Kirby Smart whoever, Josh Heipel, you know whatever,

1090
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 2: Billion Apier all speaking. Usually SEC Media Days, and I'm

1091
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:48,280
Speaker 2: sure you've covered a few, Jason. Not a lot comes

1092
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 2: out of media Days. But it took till Thursday before

1093
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 2: the fireworks went off, Lane Kiffin took the podium old

1094
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 2: miss head coach, and I'll say this he we had

1095
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 2: a lot to say about a two to two and

1096
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 2: a half three minute rant to open things up. We

1097
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 2: had to condense it otherwise I don't know if we'd

1098
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 2: be off air in time by the time Lane Kiffin

1099
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 2: was done. Here is some of what lane Kiffin had

1100
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 2: to say.

1101
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 5: Glenn.

1102
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 9: Everybody was like, oh, we got this in il it's great,

1103
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 9: and you know in this portal it's great. I whoa,

1104
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 9: And I'm not saying I was the only one saying.

1105
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: I'm like, whoa.

1106
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 9: This is a disaster coming because you just legalize cheating

1107
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,439
Speaker 9: and you just told them but donors they can pay

1108
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 9: the players.

1109
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 10: That's what you did.

1110
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 9: And then you know it's supposed to be set up, well,

1111
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 9: it's really for your name, image, likeness, for your marketing.

1112
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 9: That's not what's happening. They're getting paid to go to school,

1113
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 9: so it's paid for play. A poor system that isn't

1114
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 9: getting better now is going to get worse with this

1115
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 9: because now we just look at recruiting rankings and you're

1116
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 9: going to see that they usually are going to follow

1117
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,720
Speaker 9: this donor base and what schools are going to decide

1118
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 9: to give the most money to the players.

1119
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 2: That was Lane Kiffin at SEC media Days. Jason, I'll

1120
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 2: tell you what you take it from here. I see

1121
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 2: both sides. I I think the public thinks Lane Kiffin

1122
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 2: is a hypocrite. I believe he does want what is

1123
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,879
Speaker 2: best for college football. And by the way, last thing,

1124
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 2: and I'll tell us it over you. I never blame anybody,

1125
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 2: even if I disagree with the opinions. We want our

1126
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 2: athletes and our coaches to speak out and say what

1127
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 2: they really believe. He did that. I have no problem

1128
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:22,760
Speaker 2: with what he said. I know a lot of people

1129
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 2: disagreed with what he said. What did you mean? And

1130
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 2: by the way, that was just part of Lane Kiffin's

1131
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 2: comments on the state of college football and I owned

1132
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 2: the portal. What did you make of it, Chase?

1133
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 4: I mean, it's kind of what he has said. He's

1134
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:36,280
Speaker 4: done this before.

1135
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 5: Again, it's not anything revelatory. We were talking about that

1136
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 5: with the running back position and the situation with Eckler

1137
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 5: and Barklay and those guys to open the show, and

1138
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 5: I think we're right back to that same idea of

1139
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 5: Kiffen has kind of always lamented this even while taking

1140
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 5: advantage of it where he can. But he talks about

1141
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 5: the players like their free agents. He talked about, you know,

1142
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 5: we've got to at some way come up with some

1143
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 5: kind of rules of the road here where there's certain times,

1144
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 5: certain windows, all this kind of things. But look him

1145
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 5: saying that the athletes.

1146
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 4: Can leverage their.

1147
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 5: Free agency, so to speak, first before they get to college,

1148
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 5: then if they wanted to do transfer as a first

1149
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 5: timer and then a grad transfer, and he wants that

1150
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 5: to kind of he wants to find a way to

1151
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 5: bring that back down to earth a little bit. But

1152
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 5: at the same time, like what he's saying, I guess

1153
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 5: it's just kind of you end up shrugging your shoulders

1154
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 5: to it because it's just what it is. It's it's

1155
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 5: where we're going. It's not going to change at this

1156
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 5: point in time. Him saying this is a disaster coming

1157
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 5: because you just legalized cheating. I think more than legalizing cheating,

1158
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 5: what you did is you took cheating under the table

1159
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 5: and you put a camera on it. I was referencing

1160
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 5: poker earlier and how television changed it when they showed

1161
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 5: the cards. Well that's basically what we have now. We're

1162
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 5: just seeing the whole cards. We're seeing these collectives in Gainesville,

1163
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 5: in Knoxville, in College Station, all across the country that

1164
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 5: are loosely affiliated to some degree with the universities, but

1165
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 5: separate enough to whether they or not gonna cause too

1166
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 5: many issues. We assume you tell me, Aaron, but I

1167
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 5: assume there's things going on there that you would deem

1168
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 5: to be things they would want to try and legislate out.

1169
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 5: But at this stage, it just feels like they never

1170
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 5: had a hold of it. When they first opened the gates,

1171
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 5: all the horses and cows and livestock ran out of

1172
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 5: the farm. There's nothing left now. You can't now go

1173
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 5: run and round them all up and then throw them

1174
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 5: back into some kind of a very strict structure. You

1175
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 5: could try to limit it to some degree, but it

1176
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 5: just feels like it's grown past you at this point

1177
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 5: in time. And I think that you're gonna hear more

1178
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 5: laments from schools that can't put together the NIL deals

1179
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 5: and don't have have the collectives and things like that

1180
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 5: that some other universities do as kind of an excuse

1181
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 5: in advance for not being able to recruit, which, by

1182
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 5: the way, if you're Lane Kiffin. You have really done

1183
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 5: well with the transfer portal. You have really not done

1184
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 5: well recruiting. That's just never been a strength, Which is

1185
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 5: interesting because of the way he has utilized social media

1186
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 5: and he's always out there and he's willing to talk

1187
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 5: and he's interesting and all this kinds of thing, but

1188
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 5: he's never really brought in the talent that way. He's

1189
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 5: gone through the transfer portal, which is part of all

1190
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 5: of the nil stuff that he's talking about.

1191
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple thoughts on what he on what he

1192
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 2: said and what you said. First of all, you know

1193
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 2: the back end of that audio that we played, he

1194
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 2: said something to the effect of, well, it's the schools

1195
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 2: that are gonna have the most money that get the

1196
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 2: best players and something you just reference. Well, I'm gonna

1197
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 2: go ahead and read you the top five recruiting classes

1198
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 2: from last year. Alabama, Georgia, Texas, Oklahoma, Ohio state by

1199
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 2: the way, for people who care, LSU seven, Miami eight,

1200
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 2: USC nine, Oregon or USC eight, Oregon nine, Tennessee ten.

1201
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 2: You know what that sounds like to me, Jason. A

1202
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 2: lot of good teams, the same teams that were recruiting

1203
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 2: really well before at il and so you know what

1204
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 2: I I do think happens. And listen, I think Kiffen

1205
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 2: is coming at this from the right place, and I

1206
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 2: think there by the way, there are issues with the

1207
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 2: current structure that are more than just oh, you know, okay,

1208
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 2: well the players are getting a cut now like da

1209
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 2: da da. But beyond that, the schools that have always

1210
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 2: had the most money have always been good. And I

1211
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 2: don't think it's it's because they were all paying players

1212
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 2: under the table. But what I do think it is

1213
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 2: is essentially this, Jason, is the idea that you know,

1214
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 2: is that basically Alabama they just care more about football

1215
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 2: than I don't know, Texas Tech. And I'm not trying

1216
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 2: to disrespect Texas Tech. If we have an affiliate in Lubbock,

1217
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 2: I love all of you. Uh GEORGIAJA cares more than

1218
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 2: Kansas State. And so why I bring it up is

1219
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 2: because ten years ago, let's say everybody was playing legally,

1220
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 2: they weren't cheating, and they weren't paying players. That same

1221
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 2: money that is now going to players, it just went

1222
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 2: to facilities. It just went to paying coaches. It just

1223
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 2: went to having a bigger recruiting staff, you know. So

1224
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 2: it's like you know, Alabama has always recruited well because

1225
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 2: they just care more and the money has always been there.

1226
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 2: Same with Texas, same with Ohio State, same with Georgia.

1227
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 2: Now some of those schools have had more success on

1228
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 2: the field than others. But I guess that's my point,

1229
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 2: is that all miss for whatever reason. And I'm sure

1230
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 2: some of it is demographics. I don't know if it's

1231
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 2: the alumni base, whatever, it's always it's always gonna be

1232
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 2: in a disadvantage, whether the money is going to NIL

1233
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 2: or coaching salaries or assistant salaries or facilities or whatever.

1234
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 2: And so it's not that I think, like Lane Kiffin

1235
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 2: is this terrible person because he wants he wants the

1236
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 2: sport to get its arms around around this. But I

1237
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 2: also do think like the idea that this is somehow

1238
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 2: different than it has been, I just don't buy it.

1239
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 2: And I'll just say it really quick and I'll toss

1240
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 2: it back to you. Like even the year that Texas

1241
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 2: A and M had the number one recruiting class, I

1242
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 2: get it, it was an outlier. Everybody thinks NIL played

1243
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 2: a large role, whether the numbers we got were accurate

1244
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 2: or not. But Texas A and M even pre nil

1245
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 2: had had multiple top five classes under Jimbo Fisher. And

1246
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 2: we've talked enough about what Jimbo Fisher actually does once

1247
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 2: that talent gets to campus. But it's not as though

1248
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 2: it was Washington State that went from seventy eighth in

1249
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 2: recruiting to number one. It was Texas A and M,

1250
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 2: which always has a top ten class and usually under

1251
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 2: Jimbo Fisher had a top five class. So it's not

1252
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 2: that it's kind of like the running back situation. I like,

1253
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 2: I feel bad that Saquon Barkley isn't getting the money

1254
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 2: that he wants, but that's just the reality of the situation.

1255
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 2: And I think whether it's Lane Kiffin, whether it's the

1256
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 2: next guy, whether it's the last guy that was at

1257
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 2: Old Miss, they're always gonna be at a disadvantage to a

1258
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 2: Georgia and LSU in Oklahoma whomever.

1259
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 5: Jason, Yeah, And I think I mean to that point,

1260
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 5: and the list of teams that you referenced in how

1261
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 5: they were recruiting prior and how they're recruiting now, I

1262
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 5: think it all sort of rolls downhill, and it makes

1263
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 5: sense because those teams are still giving a ton of

1264
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 5: exposure to these guys and getting them to the pros,

1265
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 5: preparing them for the pros, preparing them for the NFL Draft.

1266
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 5: And at the same time, most of them already have

1267
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 5: alumni that really care, They have wealthy, wealthy donors, they

1268
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 5: have all of those kinds of advantages. So you would

1269
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 5: imagine that in Alabama at Tennessee or schools like that

1270
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 5: in Ohio State and Oklahoma are going to fund the

1271
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 5: money anyway if they have to. They've already got it.

1272
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 5: They have the success, it's already been built around. What

1273
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 5: you're not seeing so far is a school that was

1274
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 5: absolutely nothing just become something truly special. There are a

1275
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 5: few examples of teams that were sort of middle of

1276
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 5: the road that have pretty quickly, but a lot of

1277
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 5: that's not Most of the NIL stuff hadn't even happened yet.

1278
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 5: Like most of the guys that you've acquired via NIL

1279
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 5: are dudes that are coming in this year or next

1280
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 5: year or whatever. Like you've been able to get some

1281
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 5: guys that you already had, But generally speaking, we haven't

1282
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 5: really seen this kind of take off as of yet

1283
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 5: in a lot of these places. So I think that

1284
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 5: I think it all sort of works in concert that

1285
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 5: if you were good, then you already had a good

1286
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 5: football apparatus and probably a huge fan base, and as such,

1287
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 5: it's going to continue. It's not like you're going to

1288
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,439
Speaker 5: drop off a cliff because of that. There might be

1289
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 5: some danger schools where it's okay, well, this might be

1290
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 5: a little bit different in this circumstance, but generally it's

1291
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 5: not like Georgia and Alabama aren't going to be able

1292
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 5: to dominate nil. I think the issue right now is

1293
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 5: trying to figure out if you are a Nick Saban

1294
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 5: or if you're one of the older guard coaches, you

1295
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 5: have played with an advantage for a long long time,

1296
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 5: and now the advantage has changed changed and you've got

1297
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 5: to figure out how this system works and how you

1298
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 5: can use that to your advantage. And I think that's

1299
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 5: what it is, is you're trying to get to that

1300
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 5: point and there's a bit of a delayed process in

1301
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 5: learning all of that and making it work for.

1302
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 2: You one hundred percent. And it goes back to what

1303
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 2: I said is that you know Alabama's advantages were you know,

1304
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 2: they obviously had a Hall of Fame coach in all

1305
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 2: time great but again they poured more money into their athletes,

1306
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 2: you know, not from a pay for play standpoint, but

1307
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 2: from a facility standpoint, from a strength and conditioning standpoint,

1308
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 2: from a meal standpoint, from a whatever. And now the

1309
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 2: game has just changed. And so I think the good

1310
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 2: ones like Nick Saban are going to figure it out.

1311
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 2: As I said, Alabama finished with the number one recruiting

1312
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 2: class last year, by the way, as great as A

1313
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 2: and M's class was two years ago, Alabama's was essentially

1314
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 2: about the same. Right now. The top five in college

1315
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 2: football for the next recruiting class twenty twenty four Georgia,

1316
01:05:55,880 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 2: Ohio State, Florida, Michigan, Alabama. So again, the best schools

1317
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 2: are getting the best players, just like it's always been.

1318
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 2: And again, to be clear, I know a lot of

1319
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 2: people were upset by lang Kiffin's comments. I think he

1320
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:10,919
Speaker 2: wants what's best for college football. I think he wants

1321
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 2: it to be equitable. But this has always been a

1322
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 2: sport of have and have nots, and I don't think

1323
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 2: that's gonna change. Fox Sports Radio, Eric Torres, Jason Martin.

1324
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from the tire rack dot Com studios.

1325
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 2: Coming up, we go back to the NFL. Before we do, though,

1326
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 2: News desk to sega, what's trending?

1327
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 7: Hello again, gentlemen. You guys talked about this earlier in

1328
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 7: the show. There's a Sunday TV package with Major League Baseball.

1329
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 7: It is streaming only tomorrow. For example, Padres at Detroit.

1330
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 7: If you don't have the streaming package, you're not gonna

1331
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 7: see it. The one time the Braves were on, they

1332
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 7: put it on NBC as well to publicize the streaming patches.

1333
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 7: That's correct, But NBC itself will have IndyCar tomorrow. And

1334
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 7: this is just kind of like Thursday Night football. It's

1335
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 7: just another option, another stream of revenue. Unlike the Apple TV.

1336
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 7: I was gonna say, is it any Knights? You know you're

1337
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 7: you can't see your team sometimes?

1338
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, isn't Oh so so you

1339
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 2: can still see your team locally, there's just an option

1340
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 2: to watch it. Okay. No, So that's been a big

1341
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 2: complaint with baseball people right as there's too many place.

1342
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 7: Because the NFL has the rule that if your team

1343
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 7: is on, say the Thursday night, it still has to

1344
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 7: be on a regular local channel in your town, and

1345
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 7: that rule doesn't exist in Major League Baseball or any

1346
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 7: other sport that I'm aware of, but Detroit was hosting

1347
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 7: the Padres today and there was a rain delay in

1348
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 7: the second inning about an hour and a half. When

1349
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:37,479
Speaker 7: they resumed, the Padres hammered the Tigers fourteen to three,

1350
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 7: Manny Machado with a three run homer. There are two

1351
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 7: late games in Anaheim. D h shohe Otani is now

1352
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 7: zero for four with three strikeouts, and the Angels are

1353
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 7: getting shut out by Pittsburgh three to nothing in the

1354
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 7: bottom of the eighth. They've just ended the eighth inning. Meanwhile,

1355
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:55,439
Speaker 7: precious little offense at Oakland for the A's, but they've

1356
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 7: taken the lead on the Houston Astros three to one

1357
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 7: in the top of the eighth. A's got a run

1358
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 7: single in the sixth, solo homer in the seventh. Three runs,

1359
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 7: three hits, two airs. That's enough for the lead. They

1360
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 7: were getting no hit through five. The Houston starting pitcher

1361
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 7: Christian Javier went five and two thirds, one hit allowed.

1362
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 7: He did walk six A's again, leading one of the

1363
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 7: late games. And then there was the game that was

1364
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 7: on Fox TV for most of the country tonight. Milwaukee

1365
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,759
Speaker 7: came back and beat Atlanta four to three. The Braves

1366
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 7: left bases loaded in the top of the ninth, save

1367
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:30,560
Speaker 7: to Devin Williams, who threw twenty nine pitches in the

1368
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 7: ninth inning. Minnesota and Cleveland each one. Twins are first

1369
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 7: in the AL Central, still two games ahead of Cleveland.

1370
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 2: In the AL East.

1371
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 7: The Orioles are back alone in first a game over

1372
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:43,719
Speaker 7: the Rays after winning at Tampa Bay six to five.

1373
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:45,719
Speaker 7: Baltimore got a run in the top of the ninth

1374
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:49,600
Speaker 7: after blowing at early five zero lead Dodgers sixteen to

1375
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 7: three winners at Texas. I mentioned the San Diego blowout

1376
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 7: win at Detroit. Meanwhile, the Giants lost ten to one

1377
01:08:56,640 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 7: at San Francisco. Losing pitcher Logan Webb allowed six runs

1378
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 7: in the second inning. This was a ten to one

1379
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 7: final in DC time of the game two hours and

1380
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:08,679
Speaker 7: twenty four minutes. Kansas City Chiefs defensive lineman Chris Jones

1381
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 7: missed the start of training camp today, has one year

1382
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:14,719
Speaker 7: left on his contract and wants an extension. Titan second

1383
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 7: round quarterback Will Levis signed his rookie contract. Most NFL

1384
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 7: veterans report to camp on Tuesday. American Brian Harmon leads

1385
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 7: the open by five strokes. He will tee off at

1386
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 7: nine to fifteen am Eastern Time on Sunday, and at

1387
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:30,919
Speaker 7: the Women's World Cup FS one, we'll have a doubleheader

1388
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 7: starting late tonight, not too far off one am Eastern time.

1389
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 7: Number three Sweden against South Africa and then it's Netherlands

1390
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:40,840
Speaker 7: against Portugal. US next game is against the Netherlands on

1391
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 7: Wednesday night. That'll be on Fox TV Wednesday.

1392
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve Saga, Fox

1393
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday. Tell you what Jason want

1394
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:52,759
Speaker 2: to come back? I want to ask you a question.

1395
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 2: One NFL team, One NFL dynasty. It's been dead, but

1396
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 2: is it even wor talking about anymore? We discussed that

1397
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 2: next Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio,

1398
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 2: Aaron Tords, Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tireck dot

1399
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 2: Com studios. Appreciate Chris Prefet playing some Tony Bennett coming

1400
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:21,639
Speaker 2: out of a couple of these breaks here. Tony Bennett,

1401
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 2: of course, music icon passed away yesterday at ninety six

1402
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 2: Fly to the Moon? Is this one again just a

1403
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 2: music legend? Sometimes there's stories, Jason that cross beyond sports

1404
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 2: into just you know, real world, and it's like, you know,

1405
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 2: you lose an icon, like Tony Bennett. We want to

1406
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 2: honor him throughout the show. So thank you again to

1407
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:47,599
Speaker 2: Chris for dropping this one. Jason, I want to switch

1408
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,599
Speaker 2: back to the NFL. By the way, like I said,

1409
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 2: tell you the show, it's awesome. It doesn't feel like

1410
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 2: we're like forcing topics like we were. You know, we

1411
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 2: love what we do, and I don't want to say

1412
01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 2: forcing topics as a negative, but they're just isn't much

1413
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 2: going on in the NFL. But but obviously now the

1414
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 2: Jets have reported, everybody's pretty much reporting this week. And

1415
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 2: I bring it up because I do want to hit

1416
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 2: on another topic. And I'm just gonna give you the

1417
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 2: floor because I know it's something you've been really chewing

1418
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 2: on over the last couple of days. But the New

1419
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 2: England Patriots, you know, listen, we know what it's been

1420
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 2: post Brady. It hasn't been good last year. Obviously, the

1421
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:29,759
Speaker 2: team struggled again going eight and nine, made some coordinator changes,

1422
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 2: all that stuff. But there's there's clearly been friction between

1423
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:36,679
Speaker 2: Mac Jones and Bill Belichick. There's clearly been friction between

1424
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 2: some of Belichick's former players who are now calling him out.

1425
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 2: And it just feels like you know, I get that

1426
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 2: you can't really force out Bill Belichick, or maybe you can.

1427
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:48,639
Speaker 2: We'll discuss this, you know, over the next couple of minutes,

1428
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 2: but it just feels like this thing is coming to

1429
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 2: a head.

1430
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 11: Man.

1431
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 2: You know again, Brady left. Now this will be the

1432
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 2: fourth season without him. You know, you finish seven and nine,

1433
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 2: ten and seven, get to destroyed by the Bills in

1434
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 2: the playoffs that year, eight and nine last year, and

1435
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 2: they're frankly the fourth best team on paper in their

1436
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:07,720
Speaker 2: own division this year. Not to say that that's how

1437
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 2: they'll finish, but certainly it's how they could finish. And

1438
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 2: I just want your perspective on the Patriots because you know,

1439
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 2: this was a team that when you and I got

1440
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:19,560
Speaker 2: started in this business, Jason, they were a daily conversation

1441
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 2: during the NFL season, and now they're largely an afterthought

1442
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:23,680
Speaker 2: across the NFL.

1443
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:31,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's really interesting because they're like the most boring

1444
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:36,679
Speaker 5: story yep, imaginable after being the exact opposite for such

1445
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 5: a long period of time. We're seeing kind of in

1446
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:42,879
Speaker 5: the NBA right now, you're seeing the Spurs become interesting

1447
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 5: again because.

1448
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 4: Of a draft pick.

1449
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 5: What you saw this week felt like another nail in

1450
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 5: the coffin of the Patriots relevancy narrative, because I think

1451
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 5: we've about come to the end of this.

1452
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 4: It's not a thing anymore. They're not a thing.

1453
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:00,559
Speaker 5: Mac Jones and I don't know who was it said

1454
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:02,720
Speaker 5: this this week, but I did see the quotes from

1455
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 5: it that generally speaking, it was somebody on Fox, so

1456
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 5: correct me if you guys know who it is, but

1457
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:11,600
Speaker 5: basically suggests it's just like, look, DeAndre Hopkins went to

1458
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 5: the Titans for money back in the day, you would

1459
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 5: have gone to New England regardless, you would have taken

1460
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 5: a little bit less to go there for a chance

1461
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 5: to win. Now you're not because there's no chance to win.

1462
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 5: And if you're mac Jones, you have to feel pretty

1463
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 5: terrible right now because they just have not been able

1464
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 5: to do anything around.

1465
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 4: You to give you a chance to succeed.

1466
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 5: And the same host made the point that if he

1467
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 5: had been if he was in Miami right now, if

1468
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 5: mac Jones was in Miami and Tua was in New England,

1469
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:44,719
Speaker 5: mac Jones probably be looking at a pretty solid career

1470
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 5: because of what's around to it. Let's not say two

1471
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:49,599
Speaker 5: is not good. It's just to say that he's better

1472
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 5: with what's around him. Look at Josh Allen. Look at

1473
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 5: what Allen was his emergence. I've always kind of looked

1474
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:57,839
Speaker 5: at this, and this is why I said, Stefan Diggs,

1475
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 5: If indeed you know he wanted more input in the offense,

1476
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 5: you give it to him. If he wants more targets,

1477
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 5: you give it to him, because he's earned it. Is this, Yes,

1478
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 5: Josh Allen took a giant lead between year two and

1479
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 5: year three in his career. It was no doubt about it.

1480
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:12,679
Speaker 5: We all saw it. It was phenomenal. He worked hard

1481
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 5: and deserves a ton of credit. So do the Bills

1482
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:17,680
Speaker 5: because they brought in Stefan Diggs between year two and

1483
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 5: year three. You brought in a target and guess what

1484
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 5: we just saw in Philadelphia. You brought in AJ Brown

1485
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 5: and guess what, you went to a super Bowl. These

1486
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 5: things do work together. Mac Joe's I mean, Mac Joe's

1487
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:35,680
Speaker 5: got nothing. There's nothing in New England. And further than that,

1488
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:40,719
Speaker 5: the Belichick apologists are now silent, like they're all gone.

1489
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 5: Belichick may still be the greatest coach that's ever been

1490
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 5: in the NFL, or certainly one of the top two

1491
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:48,680
Speaker 5: or three. Regardless of who you are, you probably have

1492
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 5: to admit that. But right now, even his biggest fans,

1493
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 5: even the guys that came on the airwaves day after

1494
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 5: day and did nothing but talk about how he was

1495
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:03,320
Speaker 5: heaven see, basically are saying nothing about him, and they're

1496
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 5: all giving credit to Tom Brady for everything that he did.

1497
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 5: You want to talk about winning the breakup, it ain't Tom,

1498
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 5: and just sell it's Tom winning the breakup over Bill

1499
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 5: Belichick and that that puppy feels over.

1500
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:18,839
Speaker 4: And speaking of over, I think Belichick's career is about done.

1501
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 5: So I'm not saying because nobody else would hire him.

1502
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 5: I just believe he's about step away.

1503
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 2: So you literally just took the next question out of

1504
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 2: my mouth. I had this conversation with Dan Bayer earlier

1505
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:32,519
Speaker 2: this week, so I'm with you from the perspective that

1506
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:36,599
Speaker 2: I do think if if they missed the playoffs this year,

1507
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 2: it's not only missed the playoffs, like if they look

1508
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:42,720
Speaker 2: the way that we think they're gonna look, boring, uninteresting,

1509
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 2: not dynamic, like you know, I think it's probably I

1510
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 2: think he probably gets forced out, whether he wants to

1511
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 2: or not. And my question for Dan Byer was. If

1512
01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 2: he does get forced out and he doesn't want to leave,

1513
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:00,719
Speaker 2: I'm curious, like, like, do you think there's a market

1514
01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 2: for Bill Belichick? Let me let me play devil. I'll

1515
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 2: give you both sides really quick. On the one hand,

1516
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 2: all those Super Bowls whatever. On the other hand, he'll

1517
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 2: be seventy two years old before the start of next

1518
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:17,639
Speaker 2: football season and clearly has not been very good post

1519
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:22,759
Speaker 2: Brady has not evolved. Is stubborn obviously, look at New England.

1520
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 2: He has a big say in player personnel. We'll see

1521
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 2: if that would be. Like, I guess what I'm saying is,

1522
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:29,680
Speaker 2: if Bill Belichick essentially gets forced out after this year,

1523
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:31,680
Speaker 2: do you believe that there would be a market for him? Like,

1524
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 2: do you believe there would be teams lining up? Because

1525
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:34,640
Speaker 2: on the one hand, he might be the greatest to

1526
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 2: ever do it. On the other hand, I don't know

1527
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 2: in the league that we have right now, if that's

1528
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 2: the guy that you want to hire, even if he

1529
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 2: somehow became available.

1530
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's a fair question to ask. I

1531
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 5: do think there would be a market for The question

1532
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 5: is how deep that market would be, Considering there is

1533
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 5: a certain stubbornness to what you're seeing in New England

1534
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 5: right now. That would bother me if I'm an organization

1535
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 5: taking a look at the larger land escape of professional

1536
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 5: football in the NFL, like looking at what teams are

1537
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:09,799
Speaker 5: doing that are winning. They're not really following the Belichick

1538
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 5: model the way maybe they once were. Things have shifted,

1539
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 5: especially on offense, and we just haven't seen the change.

1540
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 5: I mean, last year they had Patricia Yeah, I mean,

1541
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 5: I don't even know what to say about that, but

1542
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 5: I feel like, look, if Josh McDaniels had not left

1543
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 5: and gone to the Raiders, we don't know if that's

1544
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 5: gonna work, but we do know what it meant to

1545
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 5: the Patriots when he left, and what it meant to

1546
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 5: mac Jones when he left, and what it meant to

1547
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 5: just kind of the structure of them being able to

1548
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 5: move the football and put it in the end zone consistently.

1549
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 5: And that to me is I don't see a light

1550
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 5: at the end of that tunnel right now. For New England,

1551
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 5: Belichick would have to he would have to alter the

1552
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:57,680
Speaker 5: plan when it comes to offense. He would need the

1553
01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 5: right kind of coordinator at this point, as great as

1554
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 5: he is, as great as a defensive mind, as he

1555
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 5: is the way he won for so long. You gotta

1556
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 5: have a Tom Brady with that, and Tom Brady helps

1557
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 5: you score a whole lot of points. You do have

1558
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:12,840
Speaker 5: to have some skill talent, even if it's not the

1559
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:15,400
Speaker 5: best in the league. You've got to have something.

1560
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 4: And that organization and that offense is just wanting. I

1561
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:21,800
Speaker 4: mean that division. We know what Miami is.

1562
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 5: The Jets are fascinating, The Bills were last year's favorites,

1563
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:27,880
Speaker 5: and they're gonna come in still riding a wave of that.

1564
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:30,720
Speaker 5: And then there's the Patriots, and it's not even that

1565
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 5: they're an afterthought. There are no thought. Like the only

1566
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 5: thing to say about them is they're not going to

1567
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 5: be very good and they're not going to be heard

1568
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 5: from this year. It's gonna be a storyline all year,

1569
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 5: and it's Belichick related. It's just gonna be about his

1570
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:48,760
Speaker 5: future and maybe about is Mac Jones a bust?

1571
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 4: Which is gonna be completely unfair when you look at

1572
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 4: what's around him.

1573
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with any of that, and you know,

1574
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 2: and I think Mac Jones is obviously. The interesting element

1575
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 2: of this as well, is because I don't think we

1576
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:00,719
Speaker 2: I only we know what Mac Jones. Is it point?

1577
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:02,679
Speaker 2: I think we know he's limited in all that stuff,

1578
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:06,760
Speaker 2: but really no, you know, nothing you know has been

1579
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 2: given to him as far as you know, tools and

1580
01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:11,759
Speaker 2: weapons and stuff like that goes back to the final.

1581
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 2: You know, Arnie and I were on air during Tom

1582
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 2: Brady's last game against Tennessee. We thought he was washed up.

1583
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:18,640
Speaker 2: It just turned out he didn't have any help around him,

1584
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 2: which is obviously something we're seeing with Mac Jones, Fox

1585
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:23,600
Speaker 2: Sports Radio eron Torris, Jason Martin broadcasting live from the

1586
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 2: Tireck dot Com studios. And I'll tell you this, Jason,

1587
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 2: we just went from one quarterback who obviously is switched gears,

1588
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 2: Brady to Brady out in New England. Want to switch

1589
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 2: gears to the other one? Aaron Rodgers is a jet

1590
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:42,639
Speaker 2: Interesting comments yesterday Fox Sports Radio. Welcome in everybody, our

1591
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 2: three Torres and Martin Fox Sports Radio taking you up

1592
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 2: until two a m. Eastern time, and we are broadcasting

1593
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 2: live from the Tireck dot Com studios tyreck dot Com.

1594
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 2: We'll help you get there an unmatched selection, fast, free shipping,

1595
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 2: free road hazard protection and over ten thousand recommended in

1596
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 2: stas tyrec dot Com. The way tire buying should be

1597
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 2: should mentioned by the way. We are also brought to

1598
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 2: you by Discover. At the end of your first year,

1599
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 2: Discover credit cards automatically double all the cash back you've earned.

1600
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 2: That's right, everything you've earned doubled. Seriously see terms and

1601
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 2: check it out for yourself at discover dot com slash match.

1602
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 2: All right, Jason, so we've talked about NFL today.

1603
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:22,719
Speaker 5: It's good.

1604
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 2: It feels great to just have the NFL back in

1605
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 2: the news, and you know, not just like one topic

1606
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:31,559
Speaker 2: every two weeks, and you know, kind of we milk

1607
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 2: it for all it's worth. There's multiple things going on

1608
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 2: with different teams, different times, things like that. However, obviously

1609
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:40,680
Speaker 2: there may be no more interesting story, at least at

1610
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 2: this particular moment than the New York Jets, who did

1611
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 2: report to trading camp earlier this week. But then also

1612
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:51,639
Speaker 2: on top of that, you know, they're on hard knocks.

1613
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 2: You know, they play in the they play Hall of

1614
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 2: Fame game, all that good stuff. And so I just

1615
01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 2: bring it up because this is an organization that is fascinating.

1616
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 2: They have a tough sk schedule to start. They open

1617
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:03,760
Speaker 2: on Monday Night football against the Buffalo Bills. They played

1618
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:06,519
Speaker 2: the Chiefs early, the Eagles early, etc. Point being this

1619
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 2: is gonna be a fun team to follow, a fun team,

1620
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 2: a monitor and it is, of course because of one man,

1621
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers. Of course, over the last couple

1622
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 2: of years, it's it's kind of been a year by

1623
01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:19,719
Speaker 2: year thing. When he was in Green Bay, but Aaron

1624
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 2: Rodgers was kind of asked about his future with the Jets.

1625
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 2: Is it just a one year thing? Is it a

1626
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 2: multi year thing? How long could Aaron Rodgers be with

1627
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 2: the New York Jets. Here is what he had to say.

1628
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 10: Jets gave up a lot for me, so, you know,

1629
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:38,840
Speaker 10: to just play one year I think would be a disservice. Now,

1630
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 10: if that one year turns out to be a magical year,

1631
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 10: who knows. But it's more than that. It's how my

1632
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 10: body feels.

1633
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 2: That was Aaron Rodgers on the DiPietro and Rothenberg Show

1634
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 2: on ESPN New York. Jason, you know, let me start

1635
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 2: by saying this. I don't know that I'm really surprised

1636
01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:58,840
Speaker 2: by it. I know that again, it's been an on again,

1637
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 2: off again every off time season the last two three years.

1638
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:04,400
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers has kind of had the thinly veiled threat

1639
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 2: to retire. But I think the combination of you know

1640
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 2: what he said, the Jets giving up a lot to

1641
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 2: get him, but also beyond that, the fact that it's

1642
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 2: a really young roster, really dynamic talent, with a lot

1643
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:21,679
Speaker 2: of it on rookie contracts Like this became a story

1644
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 2: over the last couple of days, and I guess I

1645
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:26,599
Speaker 2: sort of get it. But I also think, like, if

1646
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 2: you're a Rodgers, you're thirty eight, thirty nine years old,

1647
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 2: whatever you are, you're about to be forty. If you're

1648
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 2: still playing at a high level, as he said, if

1649
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 2: his body holds up, why wouldn't this be a multi

1650
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 2: year commitment? Jason?

1651
01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 5: I mean, there's no reason why it wouldn't be. If

1652
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 5: he's having fun and he's enjoyed, and that's it, right.

1653
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:44,800
Speaker 5: If he's having fun, he probably does stick around. Now

1654
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:49,240
Speaker 5: the second part of his statement there is the Lway clause. Basically,

1655
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 5: it is hey, one year, that would be a disservice.

1656
01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:56,680
Speaker 5: Now if it's a magical year, meaning if we go

1657
01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 5: win a super Bowl, that might be a rap. And

1658
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:01,519
Speaker 5: I think every Jets fan would take that right now

1659
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:03,639
Speaker 5: and run with it. They win a super Bowl. They're

1660
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 5: not gonna care if he only plays one year. But

1661
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:07,840
Speaker 5: that's sort of the caveat is just if this is

1662
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 5: a magical year, it might be it might be easy

1663
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:12,800
Speaker 5: to walk away then, although you would think that Tom

1664
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 5: Brady might have had that same option and chose, you know,

1665
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 5: to come.

1666
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 4: Back for a couple of seasons after that Super Bowl.

1667
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 5: So you look at it and you say, what is

1668
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers playing for if he gets that second super Bowl,

1669
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 5: especially if he does it for that organization in year one.

1670
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 4: I don't know how.

1671
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 5: Much does he love the game at that point, But

1672
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 5: it does come down to health, right if at his age,

1673
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 5: if he goes and he has to remember the collarbone

1674
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 5: injury he had of course years and years ago, where

1675
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 5: he missed pretty much the entire year.

1676
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 4: If he doesn't has that and he misses a big

1677
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:45,440
Speaker 4: chunk of the season.

1678
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:48,720
Speaker 5: Even if they're good. Right, Let's let's say they're nine

1679
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 5: to two and then he misses the rest of the

1680
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:54,080
Speaker 5: year with something. Hopefully that won't happen, but it's certainly possible.

1681
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 5: In the NFL, maybe he doesn't come back from that

1682
01:23:57,280 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 5: because maybe that's just dejecting enough where it's just you

1683
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 5: know what, let's just move on.

1684
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 4: I got other stuff I can do. There's no point

1685
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:03,559
Speaker 4: in this.

1686
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 5: I don't know. I mean, you never know what's running

1687
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 5: through his head. I don't see any reason why he

1688
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:12,920
Speaker 5: wouldn't be back for a couple of seasons if indeed

1689
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 5: they are competitive and the mixture's good, the chemistry's good,

1690
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 5: and he likes the situation. I've kind of believed this

1691
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:22,200
Speaker 5: whole time it would probably be a two year deal.

1692
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:25,840
Speaker 5: Could I think he's out after two years and I

1693
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 5: haven't changed that now. If they win the super Bowl,

1694
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 5: I think that could be it, because I just don't

1695
01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:33,400
Speaker 5: know that you want to come back and risk not

1696
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 5: having the chance to end your career by winning a

1697
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 5: super Bowl. But I also don't think they're winning the

1698
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 5: super Bowl, which is why I think that's two year deo.

1699
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 2: That was given me. My next question, let me ask

1700
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 2: you this really quick before we get to kind of

1701
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 2: the Jets and just the season ahead. Do you think

1702
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 2: any of this is a reflection because I do think

1703
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 2: so of the relationship, the frosty relationship that he had

1704
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 2: with the Green Bay Packers, where for the last minimum

1705
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:00,479
Speaker 2: two offseasons, Well, you know what, I mean, you've really

1706
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 2: got to see and you know go, you know, disappointing

1707
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 2: playoff losses. You know, we were on air for one

1708
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 2: of them against San Francisco a few years ago, and

1709
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:10,559
Speaker 2: I vividly remember him going to the podium and he

1710
01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:12,599
Speaker 2: kind of pulled what Lebron James just pulled a few

1711
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 2: months ago after the Western Conference finals and said, yeah,

1712
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 2: you know, I really gotta gotta evaluate everything this and that.

1713
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 2: And then this past offseason, obviously he does the Darkness

1714
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 2: Retreat and he says, you know, he claims that going

1715
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:27,439
Speaker 2: into the Darkness Retreat, he was whatever percentage sure that

1716
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 2: he was going to retire, decides to come back. Do

1717
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:32,640
Speaker 2: you believe that this is all a kind of a

1718
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 2: middle finger to the Green Bay Packers in other words,

1719
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 2: or at least maybe a reflection of the relationship. Where

1720
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 2: with Green Bay it was a year to year it

1721
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 2: was I don't know if you want me, but I

1722
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:43,639
Speaker 2: don't know if I want to be back. I don't

1723
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:45,639
Speaker 2: know if I want to put on this jersey anymore.

1724
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:48,519
Speaker 2: Whereas with the New York Jets, it's not only a

1725
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 2: young roster, but it's something new, it's something fun, It's

1726
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 2: big city he's kind of a you know, he's a

1727
01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:57,599
Speaker 2: single guy, metropolitan city guy as it is. Anyway, do

1728
01:25:57,640 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 2: you think any of this has to do with the

1729
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:02,160
Speaker 2: fact that, you know, some of it is at least

1730
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:03,800
Speaker 2: a part kind of a middle finger to the Green

1731
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:04,400
Speaker 2: Bay Packers.

1732
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 5: Yeah. Maybe. I also think maybe he learned a little

1733
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 5: bit that that situation, being as frosty as it was.

1734
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:15,559
Speaker 5: I do think that he is smart enough to know

1735
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 5: that there was some blame on his side for how

1736
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:20,439
Speaker 5: it played out, and maybe there was spite involved and

1737
01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 5: he knew it all along. But there's no reason to

1738
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:27,120
Speaker 5: start a new relationship the same way the last one ended.

1739
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:30,080
Speaker 5: Usually you go into a new relationship, you're gonna change

1740
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 5: something unless it was just all their fault, and I

1741
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:35,519
Speaker 5: don't think that in any way either one of them

1742
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 5: would say, you know, it was all on us or

1743
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:40,800
Speaker 5: it was all him. I think there's blame enough to

1744
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:43,760
Speaker 5: go around. Aaron Rodgers wants to start this thing off

1745
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 5: on the right foot, I think, and he has just

1746
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:49,200
Speaker 5: a way he's kind of conducted himself for the past

1747
01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 5: few months, and just a few things that you have

1748
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:54,400
Speaker 5: heard from him, he seems to be kind of playing

1749
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:57,680
Speaker 5: this up that he's happy, he's positive, he's ready, he

1750
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 5: likes the mixture, all of that kind of thing. So

1751
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:03,200
Speaker 5: this just sort of plays into that. But if it

1752
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:06,680
Speaker 5: also happens to, you know, drive a screwdriver through the

1753
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 5: elbow socket into the Green Bay Packers to see this

1754
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 5: sort of new version Aaron Rodgers, I don't think he

1755
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 5: has any problem with that, and I also think he

1756
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:17,519
Speaker 5: is very aware that they see the way he is

1757
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 5: acting now and they're wondering where that guy was.

1758
01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:23,599
Speaker 2: Last thought on the packers or the packers, not the packers.

1759
01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 2: We'll talk about the Packers at some point here in

1760
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 2: the next month, but I want to stick with the Jets.

1761
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 2: What do you what do you think of him? I mean,

1762
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 2: because I just sit there and say, I think you know,

1763
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:36,920
Speaker 2: my take is kind of the most lukewarm take ever is.

1764
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 2: I do think they'll obviously be better, and I do

1765
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 2: like the young talent, but I also I also do

1766
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 2: think that you look at the schedule early at Buffalo

1767
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:49,120
Speaker 2: at home in week one, at Dallas in week two,

1768
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:53,800
Speaker 2: KC in week four, at Denver in week five, Philadelphia

1769
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:56,680
Speaker 2: in week six, so you know, in the first six

1770
01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 2: weeks you're gonna be playing the two teams that played

1771
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:01,320
Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl, as well as you know, the

1772
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:03,840
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills, who I think we all agree if it clicks,

1773
01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:07,000
Speaker 2: if it works, if whatever. You know, they're pretty much

1774
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:09,960
Speaker 2: maybe not quite Casey or Philadelphia. But in the next

1775
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:13,599
Speaker 2: tier below. What do you make of this team, because

1776
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 2: my take is kind of the most lukewarm thing ever.

1777
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 2: I think they'll be very good. I think they'll make

1778
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 2: the playoffs. I don't know that they have enough to

1779
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:29,680
Speaker 2: get through Mahomes, Burrow, Lawrence, maybe Herbert. There's just so

1780
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 2: many good teams in that conference that while I think

1781
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:35,320
Speaker 2: the team has improved well, I think they're fun. I

1782
01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:37,000
Speaker 2: think it's hard for me to see them making that

1783
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:39,080
Speaker 2: ultimate run to the super Bowl, as you said, which

1784
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:41,200
Speaker 2: would obviously make it very interesting. As far as what

1785
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers future would be.

1786
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's a bridge too far. I think

1787
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:49,800
Speaker 5: that they're going to be a player. I think they're

1788
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 5: going to be relevant. I think they're going to be

1789
01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:54,960
Speaker 5: a tough out weekend and week out. But I mean

1790
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:56,760
Speaker 5: they kind of were last year except for the fact

1791
01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:58,280
Speaker 5: that they have a quarterback, and now you bring in

1792
01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:01,320
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers, who I think does maybe want to prove

1793
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:03,559
Speaker 5: a little something on his way out of the NFL,

1794
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:06,840
Speaker 5: and he's got the golden opportunity with an organization that

1795
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:09,680
Speaker 5: has never been able to do anything. It puts you

1796
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:11,840
Speaker 5: in all kinds of rarefied air if you're able to

1797
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 5: actually pull this thing off. I just think it's a

1798
01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:16,599
Speaker 5: big ask. It's a big ass to win that division,

1799
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 5: which I won't pick them to do either, but making

1800
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:23,160
Speaker 5: the playoffs and taking another step in the right direction.

1801
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:24,040
Speaker 4: Absolutely I do.

1802
01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:28,160
Speaker 5: Since that I think that the team, it's fair to

1803
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:30,439
Speaker 5: say they can win ten eleven games, but it's gonna

1804
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:33,680
Speaker 5: be difficult and it's gonna again be dependent upon the

1805
01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 5: thing that none of us can predict, which is health.

1806
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:38,360
Speaker 4: Are they going to be healthy with all these.

1807
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:40,240
Speaker 5: Young guys that are on these rookie contracts that you

1808
01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 5: really like, You're Garrett Wilson's and the guys that you've

1809
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 5: re signed and brought in and the ones that you've

1810
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:47,200
Speaker 5: paid and Brice Hall coming off the injury, is he

1811
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:49,680
Speaker 5: going to be able to stay you know where he

1812
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:51,640
Speaker 5: needs to be that defense and the guys that you

1813
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:53,320
Speaker 5: like there, is Sauce going to be healthy?

1814
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:54,439
Speaker 4: You can't.

1815
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:57,040
Speaker 5: That's not a thing that you can predict, so it's

1816
01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:59,679
Speaker 5: very hard to then say, oh, yeah, this team's definitely

1817
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:01,759
Speaker 5: on the of a super Bowl. Teams that are healthy

1818
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:04,760
Speaker 5: that look like Super Bowl favorites sometimes don't make it

1819
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:07,080
Speaker 5: to the super Bowl, including in your own division last year,

1820
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 5: Jets fan, that being the Bills. So would I be

1821
01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:13,960
Speaker 5: shocked if they made it? I'd be mildly surprised. But

1822
01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:16,920
Speaker 5: they do have what you like. They've got a solid

1823
01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:19,840
Speaker 5: defense and a defensive head coach, but they have a

1824
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:24,639
Speaker 5: good offensive mind at quarterback with young, skill talent guys

1825
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:27,200
Speaker 5: that are out to prove something, and a team that

1826
01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:29,760
Speaker 5: hadn't won in a while, but not one where they're

1827
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:32,280
Speaker 5: going to have the stink all over them because they're

1828
01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:34,960
Speaker 5: unfamiliar with it. The reason why you can't pick them

1829
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:36,840
Speaker 5: is because the AFC is just too good, which is

1830
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:40,040
Speaker 5: what you said. I mean, that's that hasn't changed. You're

1831
01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:42,520
Speaker 5: not better than Kansas City, You're not better than Cincinnati.

1832
01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 5: There'll be somebody else, I'm sure that will emerge that

1833
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:48,920
Speaker 5: we're not talking about. But I think that the Jets

1834
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:54,240
Speaker 5: right now are on the Jacksonville kind of ideal where

1835
01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:57,280
Speaker 5: I'm not so sure about the Jags just yet. I

1836
01:30:57,320 --> 01:30:59,000
Speaker 5: want to see if there's too much hype for them

1837
01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:01,720
Speaker 5: going into the season. And I liked what they did

1838
01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:04,840
Speaker 5: last year, but building upon that and just being able

1839
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:07,120
Speaker 5: to come back and be consistent with it can be difficult.

1840
01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:09,960
Speaker 5: I think that the Jets are going to run into

1841
01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:12,920
Speaker 5: a wall at some point, but you're gonna see.

1842
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:13,960
Speaker 4: Signs of progress.

1843
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:17,240
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with any of that. And the last

1844
01:31:17,240 --> 01:31:19,439
Speaker 2: thing I would say with the Jets is, you know, listen,

1845
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:20,840
Speaker 2: you and I have talked a lot over the last

1846
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:23,559
Speaker 2: couple of weeks about something weird going on in Buffalo

1847
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:27,160
Speaker 2: last you know, last season, last last end of last year,

1848
01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:30,719
Speaker 2: into the offseason. Miami. The two a thing is always

1849
01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:32,400
Speaker 2: going to be a thing until he proves he can

1850
01:31:32,439 --> 01:31:34,439
Speaker 2: stay healthy, and we're all hoping that he can. And

1851
01:31:34,439 --> 01:31:36,759
Speaker 2: we just talked about the Patriots, So maybe this division

1852
01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:39,519
Speaker 2: is a little bit more wide open than we think.

1853
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 2: The good news is we're gonna start to get answers

1854
01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:43,719
Speaker 2: soon again. We're about six weeks out from the start

1855
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:47,519
Speaker 2: of the season. Jets have reported to training camp this week.

1856
01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:51,320
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Erra Torres, Jason Martin. We are broadcasting

1857
01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:53,840
Speaker 2: live from the Tireck dot Com studios and I need

1858
01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:57,360
Speaker 2: to tell you about our tire Racks Sweepstakes. We are

1859
01:31:57,400 --> 01:32:00,960
Speaker 2: one week into the summer of tire Racks stakes. That

1860
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:03,120
Speaker 2: means that Fox Sports Radio and tirec dot Com are

1861
01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:05,439
Speaker 2: giving away a set of four brand new tires valued

1862
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:09,000
Speaker 2: up to fifteen hundred dollars. This week. A winner will

1863
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:11,080
Speaker 2: be picked on Sunday to win a set of four

1864
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 2: tires plus installation taxes and fees, again valued at fifteen

1865
01:32:16,040 --> 01:32:19,920
Speaker 2: hundred dollars. You can enter daily, which gets you a

1866
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:23,240
Speaker 2: new entry into the contest every single day at Foxsports

1867
01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:26,280
Speaker 2: Radio dot Com to boost your chances to win after

1868
01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:29,200
Speaker 2: this week again, first drawing is tomorrow Sunday, so go

1869
01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:32,320
Speaker 2: to Foxsports Radio dot com right now to enter. After

1870
01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:34,680
Speaker 2: this week, two more winners will have a chance to

1871
01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:38,000
Speaker 2: win through August twenty seventh for a set of four

1872
01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:41,879
Speaker 2: brand new tires. To enter and get rules, visit Foxsports

1873
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:45,519
Speaker 2: Radio dot com sponsored by Tirec dot Com. The way

1874
01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:50,120
Speaker 2: tire buying should be coming up. We got some sound

1875
01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:55,599
Speaker 2: from one NFL star. You have got to hear yo,

1876
01:32:55,720 --> 01:33:00,640
Speaker 2: won't believe it. That's next Fox Sports thirty Welcome back everybody,

1877
01:33:01,040 --> 01:33:05,000
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio ra Torris Jason Martin broadcasting live from

1878
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:09,480
Speaker 2: the Tireck dot com studios. It is almost September. Football

1879
01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:12,400
Speaker 2: is coming. Should mention by the way, we are brought

1880
01:33:12,439 --> 01:33:13,880
Speaker 2: to you by Discover. At the end of your first year,

1881
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:17,320
Speaker 2: Discover credit cards automatically double all the cash back you've earned.

1882
01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:20,200
Speaker 2: That's right, everything you've earned doubled. Seriously see terms of

1883
01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:22,960
Speaker 2: check it out for yourself at Discover dot com. Slash match.

1884
01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:26,960
Speaker 2: As I said, it is almost September and with it

1885
01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:30,799
Speaker 2: comes football, But we may not get a more interesting plot,

1886
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:34,320
Speaker 2: twist and storyline on the field as opposed to what

1887
01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:38,040
Speaker 2: we got off the field just a few days ago.

1888
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:43,599
Speaker 2: That was because dk Metcalf joined Kevin Garnet on Kevin

1889
01:33:43,680 --> 01:33:48,200
Speaker 2: Garnett's podcast and Listen. Dk Metcalf has talked about his weird,

1890
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:52,719
Speaker 2: uh you know, eating habits before, but he joined Kevin

1891
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:58,600
Speaker 2: Garnett on kg's showtime program called KG Certified and I

1892
01:33:58,600 --> 01:34:01,599
Speaker 2: think KG. I don't know if his producer was purposely

1893
01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:04,919
Speaker 2: screwing with him, but here here was Kevin Garnett asking

1894
01:34:05,360 --> 01:34:09,519
Speaker 2: uh dk Metcalf about his dietary habits.

1895
01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:12,760
Speaker 12: I eat one meal a day, drink one coffee, and

1896
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:14,200
Speaker 12: eat like three faux bags of.

1897
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:18,559
Speaker 3: Candy man, the fine bags of candy man, jelly beans.

1898
01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:21,360
Speaker 12: No see, I'm a gummy, gummy gummy type of guy,

1899
01:34:21,400 --> 01:34:23,519
Speaker 12: So you get your Life Savers.

1900
01:34:23,640 --> 01:34:26,280
Speaker 3: Come on, man, stop stop, man, come on, hold on,

1901
01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:26,760
Speaker 3: hold on.

1902
01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:29,759
Speaker 12: Man's so all right, I'm just taking through yesterday. So yesterday,

1903
01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:34,000
Speaker 12: I woke up, worked out, worked out again, came home, showered.

1904
01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:37,240
Speaker 12: I'm hungry. Run the star bus, get a quick coffee.

1905
01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:39,719
Speaker 12: That's gonna hold me to like four five o'clock around

1906
01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:42,680
Speaker 12: full thirty. I'll order some candy and the water. So

1907
01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:46,479
Speaker 12: I got what did I get yesterday? Got the Skittles gummies.

1908
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:50,120
Speaker 12: Then I got the Life Saver creations. They the same

1909
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:51,760
Speaker 12: size bag, so I just mix them.

1910
01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:52,320
Speaker 11: Eat that.

1911
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:54,479
Speaker 12: That's gonna hold me to like eight o'clock where I'm

1912
01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:57,040
Speaker 12: having dinner eight nine, and then I eat dinner, go

1913
01:34:57,120 --> 01:34:57,519
Speaker 12: to sleep.

1914
01:34:57,800 --> 01:35:00,000
Speaker 3: That's an everyday thing. That's the money through Friday, month

1915
01:35:00,160 --> 01:35:02,960
Speaker 3: through Sunday, money through Monday. You know not you eat

1916
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:03,640
Speaker 3: candy like that?

1917
01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:08,960
Speaker 2: Huh Yeah, that was dk Metcalf on Kevin Garnett's CAG

1918
01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:12,920
Speaker 2: Certified podcast. Jason, let me ask you a good question.

1919
01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:17,519
Speaker 2: How many bags of candy you eat yesterday? Buddy U zero.

1920
01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:20,559
Speaker 5: If you know me, you would be stunned.

1921
01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:21,640
Speaker 4: Not at all.

1922
01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:24,800
Speaker 5: As a matter of fact, find that out, without going

1923
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:28,960
Speaker 5: into detail. Used to be incredibly overweight, like three hundred

1924
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:31,840
Speaker 5: and sixty five pounds, and now I'm sitting here at

1925
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:34,760
Speaker 5: one eighty two, and so I don't eat anything like

1926
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:37,280
Speaker 5: that generally at all. I'm afraid to put in like

1927
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:41,720
Speaker 5: one sugar free where there's original into my mouth at night,

1928
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:44,519
Speaker 5: much less bags of candy back in the day.

1929
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:47,599
Speaker 4: A whole whole, whole, whole whole lot.

1930
01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:50,680
Speaker 5: But yeah, we've heard this from DK Metcalf before. I

1931
01:35:50,680 --> 01:35:52,720
Speaker 5: remember when I first started. I'm like, I don't believe it,

1932
01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:56,200
Speaker 5: but you know, there are freaks to have crazy metabolism

1933
01:35:56,240 --> 01:35:58,160
Speaker 5: and when you're working out super hard and all this,

1934
01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:00,280
Speaker 5: I will say that the one part of his diet

1935
01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 5: that I'm all with is the coffee because that was

1936
01:36:03,160 --> 01:36:05,000
Speaker 5: my secret weapon. Early on, I didn't even know it

1937
01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:06,920
Speaker 5: because I wasn't a big coffee drinker. And now it's

1938
01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:09,639
Speaker 5: the thing for me. It's like my hobby. Everybody knows me.

1939
01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:11,519
Speaker 4: By it, all that kind of stuff.

1940
01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:13,800
Speaker 5: But I wake up and I make a couple of

1941
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:19,760
Speaker 5: pour over coffees or you know something that morning, and

1942
01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:21,120
Speaker 5: that's that's usually.

1943
01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:21,240
Speaker 4: Kind of it.

1944
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:24,920
Speaker 5: Like instead of me eating dessert after dinner tonight, I

1945
01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:28,200
Speaker 5: made coffee. I do that pretty pretty much every single day.

1946
01:36:28,240 --> 01:36:29,799
Speaker 5: I start an end the day with coffee.

1947
01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:31,799
Speaker 4: I'll drink it. I'll drink it before.

1948
01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:33,160
Speaker 5: The end of this show, and I know what time

1949
01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:35,200
Speaker 5: it is, and I know that I've got to be

1950
01:36:35,320 --> 01:36:37,720
Speaker 5: up early in the morning. It doesn't matter, like I'll

1951
01:36:37,760 --> 01:36:40,880
Speaker 5: still drink it. The caffeine isn't even the deal for me.

1952
01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:42,640
Speaker 5: But I will say that I also used to know

1953
01:36:42,720 --> 01:36:45,280
Speaker 5: people in professional wrestling when I worked in that industry.

1954
01:36:45,360 --> 01:36:48,519
Speaker 5: My roommates, as a matter of fact, drank coffee at

1955
01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:52,280
Speaker 5: the gym, would get coffee before they went to the gym,

1956
01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:56,320
Speaker 5: and would get coffee before they worked a match. So

1957
01:36:56,960 --> 01:36:59,880
Speaker 5: it gave them energy, it helped them through it, you know.

1958
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:02,000
Speaker 5: And now I'll use like a Celsius or something like

1959
01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:04,120
Speaker 5: that right before I get on a bike or do

1960
01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:06,519
Speaker 5: some kind of a run or something like that. So

1961
01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:09,840
Speaker 5: I can understand the coffee side of that a million percent.

1962
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:14,200
Speaker 5: Quite frankly, the candy side is just man, God bless

1963
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:18,599
Speaker 5: dk Metcalf. You know, we are all given different gifts

1964
01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:21,280
Speaker 5: by our Lord, and clearly he was given something special

1965
01:37:21,320 --> 01:37:23,840
Speaker 5: because if I could eat skittles all day and look

1966
01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:27,760
Speaker 5: like DK Metcalf, I might be the happiest man on

1967
01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:28,559
Speaker 5: planet Earth.

1968
01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:30,599
Speaker 4: But I can't, and so I don't.

1969
01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:32,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we call a lot of athletes one

1970
01:37:32,960 --> 01:37:36,840
Speaker 2: of one. Yeah, you know, DK Metcalf is definitely one

1971
01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:38,920
Speaker 2: of one. And you know I love about that too,

1972
01:37:39,160 --> 01:37:41,960
Speaker 2: is that it was very like like, you know, there's

1973
01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:44,040
Speaker 2: got you could say, oh yeah, I eat a lot

1974
01:37:44,080 --> 01:37:46,320
Speaker 2: of candy. It's like when he starts going into the

1975
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:49,679
Speaker 2: the life savers this and the jelly bean that, whatever

1976
01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:51,760
Speaker 2: it was. We'll listen to the sound again here momentarily,

1977
01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:54,800
Speaker 2: but when you get into the very nitty gritty specifics,

1978
01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:56,400
Speaker 2: it is clear that that is a man that is

1979
01:37:56,400 --> 01:37:59,320
Speaker 2: not yanking our chain. That is how he has decided

1980
01:37:59,320 --> 01:38:02,120
Speaker 2: to eat and live his life. You know, I don't

1981
01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:04,400
Speaker 2: know what's gonna happen post career when he's not working

1982
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:06,200
Speaker 2: out two, three, four times a day, but it works

1983
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:08,400
Speaker 2: for him. Right now, I'll tell you what, Jason, I

1984
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:11,479
Speaker 2: do want to come back, and I want to bring

1985
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:14,200
Speaker 2: in the crew because this got me thinking, well, we'll

1986
01:38:14,200 --> 01:38:17,720
Speaker 2: play the DK Metcalf sound again, it is insanity, and

1987
01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:21,400
Speaker 2: I want to hear what everybody else's crazy food diet

1988
01:38:21,439 --> 01:38:23,320
Speaker 2: habits are, because I bet there's a lot out there.

1989
01:38:23,320 --> 01:38:26,040
Speaker 2: Obviously people can tweet in as well. But we're going

1990
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:29,240
Speaker 2: to react more to the DK metcalf sound here momentarily.

1991
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:32,520
Speaker 2: Before we do, let's toss it over the news desk, desager,

1992
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:37,920
Speaker 2: hold your favorite random food choice for momentarily. I know

1993
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:39,760
Speaker 2: you were going to lead the update with that, but

1994
01:38:39,800 --> 01:38:41,200
Speaker 2: we'll get back to that momentarily.

1995
01:38:41,240 --> 01:38:44,920
Speaker 7: Okay, okay, certainly everything's final in Major League Baseball, by

1996
01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:47,640
Speaker 7: the way, because the Oakland A's are victorious ladies and

1997
01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:51,080
Speaker 7: gentlemen beat the Houston Astros four to one. A's had

1998
01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:53,360
Speaker 7: no hits until the sixth inning, still won the game.

1999
01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:57,200
Speaker 7: Pittsburgh shout out the Angels three nothing. Minnesota and Cleveland

2000
01:38:57,280 --> 01:38:59,920
Speaker 7: each one. The Twins first in the AL Central, still

2001
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:02,880
Speaker 7: two games out of Cleveland. Milwaukee came back to beat

2002
01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:05,519
Speaker 7: Atlanta four to three. The Braves left bases loaded in

2003
01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:08,719
Speaker 7: the top of the ninth. San Diego fourteen to three

2004
01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:12,479
Speaker 7: winners at Detroit, Dodgers won sixteen to three at Texas,

2005
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:14,559
Speaker 7: and Colorado a four to three.

2006
01:39:14,400 --> 01:39:15,120
Speaker 2: Win at Miami.

2007
01:39:15,200 --> 01:39:18,240
Speaker 7: The Marlins have lost eight in a row. Most NFL

2008
01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:21,320
Speaker 7: veterans report to camp on Tuesday. For CAC It was

2009
01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:24,360
Speaker 7: this weekend and Chiefs defensive lineman Chris Jones missed the

2010
01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:26,800
Speaker 7: start of their camp today. He has one year left

2011
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:30,439
Speaker 7: on his contract and wants an extension. Titan's second round

2012
01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:34,639
Speaker 7: quarterback Will Levis signed his rookie contract. American Brian Harmon

2013
01:39:34,760 --> 01:39:37,599
Speaker 7: leads the open by five strokes. He'll tee off at

2014
01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:41,160
Speaker 7: nine to fifteen am Eastern Time on Sunday. The final

2015
01:39:41,240 --> 01:39:45,320
Speaker 7: round begins at two forty five am Eastern. Cameron Young

2016
01:39:45,400 --> 01:39:48,639
Speaker 7: of the US is in second place. John ramshot sixty

2017
01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:51,879
Speaker 7: three to move up to third six shots back. England's

2018
01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:54,360
Speaker 7: Tommy Fleetwood fell to a tie for fourth place with

2019
01:39:54,479 --> 01:39:57,639
Speaker 7: Jason Day seven back. They are in Liverpool this weekend

2020
01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:00,439
Speaker 7: and at the Women's World Cup FS one. We'll have

2021
01:40:00,479 --> 01:40:03,080
Speaker 7: a doubleheader starting late tonight. It's not too far off,

2022
01:40:03,120 --> 01:40:06,120
Speaker 7: about a half hour away. Number three ranks Sweden against

2023
01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:09,600
Speaker 7: South Africa and then after that Netherlands against Portugal. The

2024
01:40:09,640 --> 01:40:12,800
Speaker 7: Americans next game is against the Netherlands Wednesday night on

2025
01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:16,080
Speaker 7: Fox TV. The US won its opener last night three

2026
01:40:16,200 --> 01:40:18,680
Speaker 7: nothing over Vietnam. The US will play all three of

2027
01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:21,840
Speaker 7: its group matches in this tournament in New Zealand. The

2028
01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:25,040
Speaker 7: first opponent, Vietnam had never been in a World Cup before,

2029
01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:27,839
Speaker 7: was not ranked in the top twenty five. The final

2030
01:40:27,880 --> 01:40:30,320
Speaker 7: of the three opponents, Portugal is not ranked in the

2031
01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:33,360
Speaker 7: top twenty, but Netherlands certainly is a fellow top ten team.

2032
01:40:33,400 --> 01:40:36,200
Speaker 7: In fact, that was the final four years ago at

2033
01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:36,800
Speaker 7: the World Cup.

2034
01:40:36,960 --> 01:40:39,519
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you very much, Steve the Sega, Fox

2035
01:40:39,560 --> 01:40:43,840
Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday erators, Jason Martin broadcasting live

2036
01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:46,599
Speaker 2: from the Tirereck dot Com studios. So what I want

2037
01:40:46,600 --> 01:40:49,240
Speaker 2: to do now? So we just heard from DK Metcalf.

2038
01:40:49,280 --> 01:40:51,479
Speaker 2: I have Chris play the sound again momentarily, but DK

2039
01:40:51,640 --> 01:40:57,519
Speaker 2: Metcalf went through his absurd dietary habits, and what we're

2040
01:40:57,520 --> 01:40:59,000
Speaker 2: gonna do is go around the round. I'm just curious

2041
01:40:59,040 --> 01:41:02,639
Speaker 2: for everybody else's crazy dietary stuff. If there's anything everybody

2042
01:41:02,680 --> 01:41:04,759
Speaker 2: else has, you can obviously tweet us if there's anything

2043
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:09,160
Speaker 2: you do funny at Aaron Underscore torres at j mart Radio.

2044
01:41:09,479 --> 01:41:12,280
Speaker 2: But Chris go ahead and play DK Metcalf talking about

2045
01:41:12,280 --> 01:41:14,800
Speaker 2: his daily eating routine again.

2046
01:41:14,960 --> 01:41:18,080
Speaker 12: I eat one meal a day drink one coffee and

2047
01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:19,720
Speaker 12: eat like three faux bags.

2048
01:41:19,439 --> 01:41:23,960
Speaker 3: Of candy man, the fine bags of candy man jelly beans.

2049
01:41:24,080 --> 01:41:26,680
Speaker 12: N See, I'm a gummy, gummy gummy type of guy,

2050
01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:28,839
Speaker 12: So you get your Life Savers.

2051
01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:31,640
Speaker 3: Come on, man, stop stop man, Come on, hold on,

2052
01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:32,479
Speaker 3: hold on man.

2053
01:41:32,439 --> 01:41:33,080
Speaker 11: That's so all right.

2054
01:41:33,080 --> 01:41:35,800
Speaker 12: I'm just taking through yesterday. So yesterday, I woke up,

2055
01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:40,360
Speaker 12: worked out, worked out again, came home, showered, I'm hungry.

2056
01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:43,280
Speaker 12: Run the star bus, get a quick coffee. That's gonna

2057
01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:45,719
Speaker 12: hold me to like four five o'clock around full thirty.

2058
01:41:46,040 --> 01:41:48,559
Speaker 12: I'll order some candy and the water. So I got

2059
01:41:49,120 --> 01:41:52,120
Speaker 12: what did I get yesterday? Got the Skittles gummies? Then

2060
01:41:52,200 --> 01:41:56,040
Speaker 12: I got the Life Saver creations. They the same size bag,

2061
01:41:56,160 --> 01:41:57,160
Speaker 12: so I just mix them.

2062
01:41:57,200 --> 01:41:57,639
Speaker 11: Eat that.

2063
01:41:57,640 --> 01:41:59,760
Speaker 12: That's gonna hold me to like eight o'clock where I'm

2064
01:41:59,760 --> 01:42:02,000
Speaker 12: having dinner. I ate nine and then I eat dinner,

2065
01:42:02,280 --> 01:42:04,040
Speaker 12: go to sleep. That's an everyday thing.

2066
01:42:04,120 --> 01:42:06,839
Speaker 3: That's a Monday through Friday, money through Sunday, money through Monday.

2067
01:42:07,320 --> 01:42:08,960
Speaker 3: You know, not you eat candy like that.

2068
01:42:09,120 --> 01:42:09,400
Speaker 11: Huh.

2069
01:42:09,479 --> 01:42:14,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was DK Metcalf again on the Kevin Garnett

2070
01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:19,599
Speaker 2: The Cage Showtime Show Cage Certified so if I got

2071
01:42:19,640 --> 01:42:22,559
Speaker 2: that correct, DK Metcalf's diet, and I know he said

2072
01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:27,000
Speaker 2: this stuff before, but coffee until four pm, then four

2073
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:29,080
Speaker 2: to eight, just you know, casual, two three bags of

2074
01:42:29,120 --> 01:42:31,639
Speaker 2: candy and then he eats a normal dinner before bed.

2075
01:42:32,240 --> 01:42:33,599
Speaker 2: So I don't want to do is go around the room.

2076
01:42:33,640 --> 01:42:36,960
Speaker 2: Now let's start with producer Pat Pat. You got any

2077
01:42:37,040 --> 01:42:40,080
Speaker 2: quirky food How many bags of candy you eat a day? Pat?

2078
01:42:41,040 --> 01:42:43,760
Speaker 13: Well, you know I would say zero. I'm more of

2079
01:42:43,800 --> 01:42:45,360
Speaker 13: a hard candy type of guy.

2080
01:42:45,479 --> 01:42:47,760
Speaker 2: Like, so you're one hundred and seven years old, you

2081
01:42:47,800 --> 01:42:49,519
Speaker 2: hand him out jolly ranchers.

2082
01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:52,160
Speaker 13: Okay, okay, okay, I go, But no, no, I do

2083
01:42:52,240 --> 01:42:54,559
Speaker 13: have a quirky food thing. It's certainly not to a

2084
01:42:54,600 --> 01:42:57,000
Speaker 13: candy thing. It's not even really like a weird food thing.

2085
01:42:57,080 --> 01:42:59,360
Speaker 13: It's just kind of what I do when I eat.

2086
01:42:59,400 --> 01:43:02,160
Speaker 13: So whenever i'm like at home or relaxing having a

2087
01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:06,280
Speaker 13: meal not at works type scenario, I'll always put on TV.

2088
01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:09,400
Speaker 13: Like as I'm eating or getting ready to eat my food,

2089
01:43:09,760 --> 01:43:12,880
Speaker 13: I'll put on like either a food eating challenge or

2090
01:43:12,920 --> 01:43:16,120
Speaker 13: like hot Ones for people that watch the YouTube show

2091
01:43:16,120 --> 01:43:20,080
Speaker 13: a Hot Ones the Chicken Hot Wings eating contest challenge,

2092
01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:22,519
Speaker 13: or I'll just find like a YouTuber that's doing all

2093
01:43:22,600 --> 01:43:25,879
Speaker 13: today We're gonna do like the big spaghetti bowl challenge

2094
01:43:25,880 --> 01:43:27,960
Speaker 13: and eat like ten pounds of it and they'll like

2095
01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:30,120
Speaker 13: do it. I'll eat while I'm watching that, and I

2096
01:43:30,360 --> 01:43:31,720
Speaker 13: like doing that when I eat.

2097
01:43:31,760 --> 01:43:33,240
Speaker 2: I don't know why. It's just kind of fun. So

2098
01:43:33,360 --> 01:43:35,439
Speaker 2: is this like someone that gets timid at the urinal

2099
01:43:35,560 --> 01:43:38,320
Speaker 2: you can't perform unless unless that you see the same

2100
01:43:38,360 --> 01:43:39,360
Speaker 2: thing going on or what.

2101
01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:41,680
Speaker 13: No, it's not really, it's just I don't know. I

2102
01:43:41,800 --> 01:43:44,639
Speaker 13: find it like really really entertaining. And it's like, hey,

2103
01:43:44,680 --> 01:43:46,680
Speaker 13: I'm not doing a food challenge, but I'm like, you

2104
01:43:46,720 --> 01:43:49,360
Speaker 13: know what I'm like, And honestly, it makes me hungry.

2105
01:43:49,400 --> 01:43:52,479
Speaker 13: You're watching someone take down ten pounds of like a

2106
01:43:52,520 --> 01:43:55,400
Speaker 13: big steak dinner, big like meatball sandwich, and I'm like,

2107
01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:57,640
Speaker 13: that looks really good and I'm just eating like a

2108
01:43:57,640 --> 01:43:59,080
Speaker 13: bowl like ramen or something.

2109
01:43:59,240 --> 01:43:59,840
Speaker 5: Just it's enter.

2110
01:44:00,280 --> 01:44:00,920
Speaker 2: It makes me ungry.

2111
01:44:00,920 --> 01:44:01,160
Speaker 4: Again.

2112
01:44:01,160 --> 01:44:03,400
Speaker 2: I will tell you two things. One, we have some

2113
01:44:03,520 --> 01:44:06,320
Speaker 2: incredible audio for the end of the show related to

2114
01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:09,840
Speaker 2: the Food Channel, which about an hour from now, about

2115
01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:11,559
Speaker 2: an hour twenty minutes from now, you do not want

2116
01:44:11,600 --> 01:44:14,040
Speaker 2: to maybe the most incredible audio, even more so than

2117
01:44:14,120 --> 01:44:14,919
Speaker 2: DK Metcalf.

2118
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:18,240
Speaker 7: But uh, it can't possibly be more incredible than that

2119
01:44:18,640 --> 01:44:22,479
Speaker 7: the seger DK Metcalf, that is an astounding sound bite

2120
01:44:22,520 --> 01:44:25,480
Speaker 7: when you consider the context that this is the weightlifter.

2121
01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:29,040
Speaker 2: He's also playing white wide receiver. Oh, shredded guy, he's

2122
01:44:29,040 --> 01:44:30,360
Speaker 2: not exactly.

2123
01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:33,479
Speaker 7: It's like six four forty. That's what you're eating. That's amazing.

2124
01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:36,160
Speaker 14: But just heared what Justin Verlander does before he has

2125
01:44:36,200 --> 01:44:38,320
Speaker 14: a baseball start. Uh Oh, I don't know if I

2126
01:44:38,400 --> 01:44:42,040
Speaker 14: want to know a taco bell. Oh okay, okay, well

2127
01:44:42,080 --> 01:44:43,559
Speaker 14: i'll tell you what. First of all, the saga, the

2128
01:44:43,600 --> 01:44:45,960
Speaker 14: sound at ten ten p. Fifty is more fascinating than

2129
01:44:46,000 --> 01:44:46,719
Speaker 14: DK Metcalf.

2130
01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:48,439
Speaker 7: But I'm sticking I'm sticking around.

2131
01:44:48,520 --> 01:44:49,599
Speaker 2: I'm with Aaron on this one.

2132
01:44:49,640 --> 01:44:51,519
Speaker 13: I agree, I know exactly what he's talking about.

2133
01:44:51,560 --> 01:44:52,720
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to you to Segre. Do you

2134
01:44:52,760 --> 01:44:53,879
Speaker 2: have any weird eating habits?

2135
01:44:53,960 --> 01:44:56,400
Speaker 7: Uh no, because you know when you get to forty

2136
01:44:56,400 --> 01:44:59,479
Speaker 7: and not twenty, you're just your body says Okay enough

2137
01:44:59,560 --> 01:45:02,920
Speaker 7: already you are not in college anymore. So yeah, sure,

2138
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:05,760
Speaker 7: I would like Smarties with a Slurpee or something, but

2139
01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:08,240
Speaker 7: I don't make a daily habit out of it like

2140
01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:10,120
Speaker 7: this guy. That's unsustainable.

2141
01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:12,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't either.

2142
01:45:12,200 --> 01:45:12,360
Speaker 11: You know.

2143
01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:14,439
Speaker 2: I thought about this and I was like, you know,

2144
01:45:14,520 --> 01:45:17,200
Speaker 2: do I have anything super interesting? I think, just like

2145
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:20,559
Speaker 2: Jason Martin, I just drink entirely too much coffee like that.

2146
01:45:20,680 --> 01:45:23,000
Speaker 2: That's kind of my thing, coffee to work.

2147
01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:23,760
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2148
01:45:24,240 --> 01:45:25,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, how did I not know this?

2149
01:45:26,040 --> 01:45:29,080
Speaker 4: We could have bonded many, many many times.

2150
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:31,400
Speaker 2: Coffee stuff again, Yes.

2151
01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:33,520
Speaker 7: It is a late night show after perfect.

2152
01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:37,400
Speaker 14: Yeah, me and Jason would talk about like single origin

2153
01:45:37,479 --> 01:45:39,080
Speaker 14: coffee beans on overnights.

2154
01:45:39,280 --> 01:45:42,280
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not a coffee snob by any stretch, and

2155
01:45:42,320 --> 01:45:44,000
Speaker 2: I'm not saying you guys are snobs. I'm just saying

2156
01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:46,599
Speaker 2: it's like sounds like it. Well, I think to that.

2157
01:45:46,680 --> 01:45:48,960
Speaker 14: To that credit, I think Jason knows what my weird

2158
01:45:49,000 --> 01:45:51,040
Speaker 14: eating habit is because I think I've told him about

2159
01:45:51,040 --> 01:45:51,759
Speaker 14: this in the past.

2160
01:45:51,920 --> 01:45:55,639
Speaker 2: Perfet just share it, I mean fortifying, but go ahead,

2161
01:45:55,720 --> 01:45:56,240
Speaker 2: I will.

2162
01:45:56,320 --> 01:45:57,840
Speaker 14: Well, first off, let me say on the site, I

2163
01:45:57,880 --> 01:45:59,920
Speaker 14: don't know if my other eating habit is weird, but

2164
01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:01,760
Speaker 14: I am one of those people who just like if

2165
01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:04,640
Speaker 14: I have a bag of shredded cheese, I get to

2166
01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:06,320
Speaker 14: use it for maybe one meal and then I eat

2167
01:46:06,320 --> 01:46:08,080
Speaker 14: the rest of that shredded cheese just straight out of

2168
01:46:08,080 --> 01:46:08,400
Speaker 14: the bag.

2169
01:46:08,520 --> 01:46:08,960
Speaker 5: Is snut.

2170
01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:11,960
Speaker 2: I won't I won't call you guilt. I won't take

2171
01:46:12,320 --> 01:46:14,200
Speaker 2: cheese is just good. Yeah, it's good.

2172
01:46:14,280 --> 01:46:16,120
Speaker 14: So the one So the thing is and I think

2173
01:46:16,200 --> 01:46:19,120
Speaker 14: Jason knows it, and I told Aaron in the break

2174
01:46:19,200 --> 01:46:21,400
Speaker 14: But as I said, as Jason knows, I like making

2175
01:46:21,439 --> 01:46:25,040
Speaker 14: cold brew coffee and I don't use sweetener. I don't

2176
01:46:25,080 --> 01:46:27,080
Speaker 14: need to use cream. What I will do, though, is

2177
01:46:27,120 --> 01:46:29,679
Speaker 14: I will take about put about half a cup filled

2178
01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:32,240
Speaker 14: with cold brew and the second half gets filled with

2179
01:46:32,240 --> 01:46:32,880
Speaker 14: Coca cola.

2180
01:46:34,640 --> 01:46:35,920
Speaker 2: I just don't even know what to make it. That

2181
01:46:36,240 --> 01:46:38,639
Speaker 2: is how I survived overnight shifts for four years.

2182
01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:41,679
Speaker 4: And I'll tell you my wife.

2183
01:46:41,720 --> 01:46:45,160
Speaker 5: The other day I ordered her an espresso soda that

2184
01:46:45,280 --> 01:46:48,519
Speaker 5: was like a cherry coke mixed with espresso from a

2185
01:46:48,560 --> 01:46:52,519
Speaker 5: third wave coffee shop, and she was a gigantic fan

2186
01:46:52,840 --> 01:46:57,280
Speaker 5: of said espresso cola. So what you're doing is not

2187
01:46:57,560 --> 01:46:59,200
Speaker 5: as out of bounds as you think it is. And

2188
01:46:59,240 --> 01:47:02,400
Speaker 5: of course Coke tried to release their like coke coffee.

2189
01:47:02,520 --> 01:47:04,599
Speaker 14: Yeah, but they used like instant coffee powder.

2190
01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:05,920
Speaker 4: It was like trash.

2191
01:47:06,320 --> 01:47:09,400
Speaker 5: It was not it was not what you should be doing,

2192
01:47:10,040 --> 01:47:12,240
Speaker 5: and it just artificial all the way through. But that's

2193
01:47:12,280 --> 01:47:14,920
Speaker 5: not that's not as weird as as it could be.

2194
01:47:15,120 --> 01:47:17,360
Speaker 5: Shredded cheese straight out of the bag on a regular

2195
01:47:17,400 --> 01:47:20,719
Speaker 5: basis is probably weirder than cole brew mixed with cola.

2196
01:47:21,360 --> 01:47:21,800
Speaker 2: That's fair.

2197
01:47:21,880 --> 01:47:24,240
Speaker 14: I like shredded cheese. I'm not gonna lie too, like

2198
01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:26,360
Speaker 14: just to have a bag of mozzarella around the house.

2199
01:47:29,640 --> 01:47:30,759
Speaker 2: What was I gonna say?

2200
01:47:30,920 --> 01:47:31,000
Speaker 12: So?

2201
01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:34,400
Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, that it sounds On the one hand, it

2202
01:47:34,439 --> 01:47:36,920
Speaker 2: sounds weird, but cole Brew, like like Jason said, like,

2203
01:47:37,000 --> 01:47:39,120
Speaker 2: it's not like there's not flavored cole brew, So I

2204
01:47:39,160 --> 01:47:42,840
Speaker 2: guess that's not unnormal like I was, like I was

2205
01:47:42,880 --> 01:47:45,080
Speaker 2: saying before. For me, I just drink a lot of coffee.

2206
01:47:45,080 --> 01:47:47,000
Speaker 2: Part of it is I get up really early during

2207
01:47:47,000 --> 01:47:48,400
Speaker 2: the week and then I get up you know, I'm

2208
01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:50,760
Speaker 2: obviously here really late at night, so my schedule gets

2209
01:47:50,760 --> 01:47:51,439
Speaker 2: all screwed up.

2210
01:47:51,840 --> 01:47:51,920
Speaker 5: Uh.

2211
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:54,400
Speaker 2: The other one, which Iowa Sam makes fun of me for,

2212
01:47:55,400 --> 01:47:57,799
Speaker 2: I don't really think it's weird. I do like cottage

2213
01:47:57,840 --> 01:48:00,800
Speaker 2: cheese though, and like I have it probably twice three

2214
01:48:00,840 --> 01:48:03,800
Speaker 2: times a week for lunch, and every time Iowa Sam

2215
01:48:03,840 --> 01:48:07,080
Speaker 2: sees me, He's like, that's disgusting. I can't believe that

2216
01:48:07,120 --> 01:48:09,479
Speaker 2: you eat that? Is that normal? I don't think that's weird,

2217
01:48:09,520 --> 01:48:12,040
Speaker 2: But Iowa Sam thinks he's it's mortified.

2218
01:48:12,080 --> 01:48:14,800
Speaker 5: He's like, that's what it's like, an old woman thing.

2219
01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:16,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, my grandma used to eat cottag cheese every day

2220
01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:17,320
Speaker 2: for lunch.

2221
01:48:17,320 --> 01:48:20,040
Speaker 5: I don't think I've ever had it, but my uh

2222
01:48:20,200 --> 01:48:23,200
Speaker 5: my mother in law has asked me numerous times because

2223
01:48:23,240 --> 01:48:25,920
Speaker 5: she'll be over here watching our daughter and I'll come

2224
01:48:25,920 --> 01:48:28,000
Speaker 5: home and she'll say, hey, would you like some cottage cheese?

2225
01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:31,080
Speaker 5: And I always say no because I'm a man in

2226
01:48:31,160 --> 01:48:33,799
Speaker 5: my forties. But who knows what I could be missing

2227
01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:37,280
Speaker 5: out on? Because she's an awesome cook, as our most

2228
01:48:37,840 --> 01:48:40,400
Speaker 5: you know, women that grew up that actually you know,

2229
01:48:40,520 --> 01:48:42,120
Speaker 5: learned from their mothers and all that.

2230
01:48:42,160 --> 01:48:45,080
Speaker 4: Kind of stuff. They're usually unbelievable baker's unbelievable cookers.

2231
01:48:45,280 --> 01:48:46,519
Speaker 5: So who knows what I could be.

2232
01:48:46,520 --> 01:48:48,719
Speaker 4: Missing by passing up cottage cheese.

2233
01:48:48,720 --> 01:48:50,400
Speaker 14: Oh, Aaron, do you have like any kind of fruit

2234
01:48:50,439 --> 01:48:53,479
Speaker 14: with the cottage cheese or like I usually eat them

2235
01:48:53,479 --> 01:48:53,960
Speaker 14: with crackers?

2236
01:48:54,040 --> 01:48:56,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. I used to put goldfish in, which people

2237
01:48:56,600 --> 01:48:59,320
Speaker 2: thought was weird too. It's just a flavored crack crackers. Yeah,

2238
01:49:01,400 --> 01:49:01,920
Speaker 2: pretty much.

2239
01:49:02,640 --> 01:49:04,840
Speaker 5: I don't know. Thanks for that, Thanks for that.

2240
01:49:05,360 --> 01:49:09,400
Speaker 7: Somebody is just tuning into this conversation and probably not. Yes,

2241
01:49:09,520 --> 01:49:13,000
Speaker 7: I I we were talking originally about DK Metcalf, who,

2242
01:49:13,000 --> 01:49:15,439
Speaker 7: by the way, is from Mississippi, and can we just

2243
01:49:15,479 --> 01:49:18,800
Speaker 7: put this in context, I know, line a month ago Mississippi.

2244
01:49:18,840 --> 01:49:23,799
Speaker 7: Today Mississippi ranks as the unhealthy estate in the entire country. Again.

2245
01:49:24,080 --> 01:49:27,320
Speaker 2: Well, the funny part about the KG sound was he

2246
01:49:27,479 --> 01:49:32,439
Speaker 2: opened with, like, you know, you're you're a high caliber athlete,

2247
01:49:32,760 --> 01:49:35,680
Speaker 2: but of country, so you must have something. And I

2248
01:49:35,720 --> 01:49:37,679
Speaker 2: think he thought it was gonna be you know, the

2249
01:49:37,680 --> 01:49:42,959
Speaker 2: the southern fried food, the collared greens whatever. No, no, no, no,

2250
01:49:43,160 --> 01:49:47,160
Speaker 2: I just like a lot of Starburst and no actual meals.

2251
01:49:47,640 --> 01:49:50,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, what is it about the Seattle Seahawks by the.

2252
01:49:50,439 --> 01:49:54,320
Speaker 2: Way, Yeah, Marshawn was the Skittles guy. Yeah, yeah, I

2253
01:49:54,360 --> 01:49:55,800
Speaker 2: don't know, it's women.

2254
01:49:55,920 --> 01:50:00,320
Speaker 5: And DK is. The first thing he said was Skittles, Gummies, Skittles. Yeah.

2255
01:50:00,439 --> 01:50:02,760
Speaker 2: I mean it was way too specific, as I said,

2256
01:50:02,800 --> 01:50:08,200
Speaker 2: to be making things up to be way too much,

2257
01:50:08,280 --> 01:50:10,519
Speaker 2: you know, like like it was way too specific for

2258
01:50:10,600 --> 01:50:12,320
Speaker 2: him to be making stuff up, by the way, Jason

2259
01:50:12,320 --> 01:50:13,920
Speaker 2: the Lifesaver subheading.

2260
01:50:14,120 --> 01:50:15,840
Speaker 4: That's where I was like, Okay, this dude knows what

2261
01:50:15,880 --> 01:50:16,519
Speaker 4: he's talking if.

2262
01:50:16,479 --> 01:50:19,000
Speaker 14: I can throw a real quick update about Justin Verlander.

2263
01:50:19,080 --> 01:50:22,720
Speaker 14: So I found out the order was three crunchy tacos supremes,

2264
01:50:22,800 --> 01:50:26,400
Speaker 14: no tomatoes, a Mexican pizza also no tomatoes, and a

2265
01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:29,280
Speaker 14: cheesy Gordida crunch. This is what he would chow down

2266
01:50:29,320 --> 01:50:33,479
Speaker 14: before the night before a pitching start. However, apparently he

2267
01:50:33,560 --> 01:50:37,280
Speaker 14: stopped doing that in twenty fourteen. Nah see getting older, Yeah,

2268
01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:39,200
Speaker 14: getting older, Jason, I assumed by.

2269
01:50:39,080 --> 01:50:40,760
Speaker 7: The k metcalf by the way, is not going to

2270
01:50:40,840 --> 01:50:44,160
Speaker 7: be chasing down guys who just had interceptions ten years

2271
01:50:44,160 --> 01:50:44,479
Speaker 7: from now.

2272
01:50:44,560 --> 01:50:48,679
Speaker 5: But anytime he gets chased down, the hot take needs

2273
01:50:48,720 --> 01:50:52,559
Speaker 5: to be too much candy Lifesavers holding him back.

2274
01:50:52,680 --> 01:50:54,759
Speaker 7: Maybe the sugar rush gets make the faster.

2275
01:50:55,040 --> 01:50:56,200
Speaker 2: That could be true too.

2276
01:50:56,120 --> 01:50:56,920
Speaker 4: That's a fair point.

2277
01:50:57,160 --> 01:50:59,760
Speaker 5: He might actually be a performance enhancing.

2278
01:50:59,560 --> 01:51:03,800
Speaker 2: Ooh, testing for sugar. Too much for sugar, Jason, I'm

2279
01:51:03,800 --> 01:51:06,880
Speaker 2: guessing you don't have any interesting things besides your coffee

2280
01:51:06,880 --> 01:51:07,240
Speaker 2: every day.

2281
01:51:07,280 --> 01:51:09,080
Speaker 5: Man, I got a lot because I'm kind of crazy.

2282
01:51:09,120 --> 01:51:11,400
Speaker 5: Like I said, I woke up one day with a

2283
01:51:11,439 --> 01:51:15,720
Speaker 5: sudden urge to lose a ton of weight, and a

2284
01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:17,559
Speaker 5: lot of it was just cutting out carbs and cutting

2285
01:51:17,560 --> 01:51:21,200
Speaker 5: out sugar and basically just doing keto without like really

2286
01:51:21,360 --> 01:51:24,040
Speaker 5: researching it or anything like that. So I still kind

2287
01:51:24,040 --> 01:51:27,960
Speaker 5: of adhere to that. I eat Magic Spoon cereal every morning,

2288
01:51:28,000 --> 01:51:30,800
Speaker 5: which is low carb cereal. It has alu locent it,

2289
01:51:31,479 --> 01:51:33,800
Speaker 5: and I measure it out. I actually pull out a

2290
01:51:33,800 --> 01:51:37,000
Speaker 5: measuring cup and I measured one cup of Magic Spoon,

2291
01:51:37,200 --> 01:51:39,240
Speaker 5: which means I get about six or seven bowls out

2292
01:51:39,280 --> 01:51:42,559
Speaker 5: of a box. And I use unsweetened vanilla almond milk

2293
01:51:42,640 --> 01:51:45,680
Speaker 5: all the time for everything for my for whatever like

2294
01:51:45,760 --> 01:51:49,040
Speaker 5: low carbs, smoothie, I make for any kind of cereal,

2295
01:51:49,600 --> 01:51:52,439
Speaker 5: for anything that I need milk for, it's always going

2296
01:51:52,520 --> 01:51:56,320
Speaker 5: to be unsweetened vanilla almond milk, like over and over

2297
01:51:56,439 --> 01:51:59,320
Speaker 5: and over again. So I mean there's there's little things

2298
01:51:59,439 --> 01:52:04,240
Speaker 5: like that. There are measuring or counting. Like I'll tell

2299
01:52:04,240 --> 01:52:07,160
Speaker 5: you here's a weird one. I eat from Trader Joe's.

2300
01:52:07,160 --> 01:52:12,040
Speaker 5: They have chocolate covered espresso beans and they're phenomenal. I

2301
01:52:12,160 --> 01:52:17,040
Speaker 5: eat two beans, two of them after dinner every single night.

2302
01:52:17,120 --> 01:52:18,440
Speaker 4: I go over to the cabinet.

2303
01:52:18,800 --> 01:52:21,519
Speaker 5: I get two beans out and I eat them, and

2304
01:52:21,560 --> 01:52:24,040
Speaker 5: my daughter goes meat chok, what and then I end

2305
01:52:24,120 --> 01:52:27,280
Speaker 5: up giving her a cookie espresso beans.

2306
01:52:27,280 --> 01:52:30,040
Speaker 14: The exact number of beans as I take gummy vitamins at.

2307
01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:37,280
Speaker 2: Night, are they They're definitely vitamins. Chris, just no, no, no,

2308
01:52:37,720 --> 01:52:42,160
Speaker 2: those gummies, say are vita those ones? Are those gummies?

2309
01:52:42,520 --> 01:52:45,080
Speaker 5: We got long disager segments. So maybe he eats a

2310
01:52:45,080 --> 01:52:47,360
Speaker 5: bag of I don't know, Skittles gummies or something, or

2311
01:52:47,400 --> 01:52:49,240
Speaker 5: some of your gummies and we come back to him.

2312
01:52:49,360 --> 01:52:51,200
Speaker 7: I guess I didn't know any of this. This was

2313
01:52:51,200 --> 01:52:52,160
Speaker 7: a very enlightening.

2314
01:52:52,960 --> 01:52:54,559
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I'm That's what I'm here for. I

2315
01:52:54,600 --> 01:52:56,880
Speaker 2: just figured, you know what, we're gonna get that sound,

2316
01:52:56,960 --> 01:52:59,160
Speaker 2: let's make something of it. By the way, Seashell Pipes

2317
01:52:59,479 --> 01:53:03,839
Speaker 2: tweets it in DK's food routine sounds like my food routine.

2318
01:53:03,880 --> 01:53:06,200
Speaker 2: So I don't know if CCL Pipes is working out

2319
01:53:06,200 --> 01:53:10,360
Speaker 2: twice a day. I hope you are, buddy, because you know, yeah, yeah,

2320
01:53:10,400 --> 01:53:13,519
Speaker 2: Because because DK can get away with it, I don't

2321
01:53:13,520 --> 01:53:15,680
Speaker 2: know if the average person can. Fox Sports radio erin

2322
01:53:15,720 --> 01:53:18,880
Speaker 2: Tors Jason Martin broadcasting live from the tirec dot com studios.

2323
01:53:19,000 --> 01:53:20,639
Speaker 2: By the way, you want to tweet in your weird

2324
01:53:20,640 --> 01:53:23,000
Speaker 2: food habit, We're more than welcome to take it at

2325
01:53:23,000 --> 01:53:27,120
Speaker 2: Aaron Underscore Tours at jmart Radio. But as as Jason said,

2326
01:53:27,160 --> 01:53:29,800
Speaker 2: Desager's got his extended update coming up. Don't want to

2327
01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:33,439
Speaker 2: waste any more time. That's next Fox Sports Radio, Welcome

2328
01:53:33,439 --> 01:53:36,720
Speaker 2: back everybody, Fox Sports Radio eron Torres, Jason Martin broadcasting

2329
01:53:36,720 --> 01:53:39,600
Speaker 2: at the Tireck dot com Studios. The end of your

2330
01:53:39,600 --> 01:53:42,320
Speaker 2: first year, Discover credit cards automatically double all the cash

2331
01:53:42,320 --> 01:53:46,000
Speaker 2: back you've earned. That's right, everything you've earned doubled. Seriously

2332
01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:47,679
Speaker 2: see terms of Check it out for yourself at Discover

2333
01:53:47,800 --> 01:53:51,799
Speaker 2: dot com. Slash Match as we do every early Sunday

2334
01:53:51,840 --> 01:53:55,200
Speaker 2: morning on the East Coast late Saturday night everywhere else

2335
01:53:55,680 --> 01:53:58,360
Speaker 2: News Desk, The Saga Extended Update, the Floor as years

2336
01:53:58,400 --> 01:53:58,959
Speaker 2: my friend.

2337
01:53:58,800 --> 01:54:00,800
Speaker 7: Well, I don't know what candy eats, but the star

2338
01:54:00,880 --> 01:54:03,240
Speaker 7: of Major League Baseball in tonight's games was a guy

2339
01:54:03,240 --> 01:54:06,080
Speaker 7: who had not played a single major league game in

2340
01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:09,200
Speaker 7: his life until this evening, a guy who helped Milwaukee

2341
01:54:09,240 --> 01:54:11,360
Speaker 7: come back and beat Atlanta four to three. It is

2342
01:54:11,479 --> 01:54:14,840
Speaker 7: sal Freelick. In his major league debut, went three for

2343
01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:19,080
Speaker 7: three at the plate, two RBIs on defense, two great

2344
01:54:19,120 --> 01:54:21,559
Speaker 7: catches in right field top of the sixth, and then

2345
01:54:21,640 --> 01:54:23,280
Speaker 7: in the bottom of the sixth inning at the plate

2346
01:54:23,360 --> 01:54:26,000
Speaker 7: he hit the tying RBI single, then in the bottom

2347
01:54:26,000 --> 01:54:29,320
Speaker 7: of the eighth the go ahead sacrifice fly four to three,

2348
01:54:29,400 --> 01:54:31,920
Speaker 7: the final as the Braves left bases loaded top of

2349
01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:34,200
Speaker 7: the ninth. This is such a superb Braves team this

2350
01:54:34,280 --> 01:54:37,120
Speaker 7: year record of sixty three and thirty three coming in

2351
01:54:37,680 --> 01:54:40,640
Speaker 7: and one. Sal Freelik is the hero of the game.

2352
01:54:40,720 --> 01:54:43,280
Speaker 7: Three hits in your major league debut that ties for

2353
01:54:43,320 --> 01:54:45,960
Speaker 7: the most. But a Brewers player. This is the guy

2354
01:54:46,040 --> 01:54:49,120
Speaker 7: that was just drafted mid first round two years ago

2355
01:54:49,160 --> 01:54:52,400
Speaker 7: out of Boston College. So Brewers fans certainly knew the name.

2356
01:54:52,440 --> 01:54:55,200
Speaker 7: They gave him warm ovations in this night, and it

2357
01:54:55,280 --> 01:54:57,880
Speaker 7: just got louder as the evening went along. A guy

2358
01:54:57,920 --> 01:55:00,560
Speaker 7: who was, needless to say, a great hitter at BC

2359
01:55:00,880 --> 01:55:04,880
Speaker 7: getting drafted first round, good hitter at Triple A last year,

2360
01:55:04,960 --> 01:55:07,360
Speaker 7: but not this year at Triple A. He still got

2361
01:55:07,360 --> 01:55:11,520
Speaker 7: the call up and starred Tonight tomorrow it's the Hall

2362
01:55:11,560 --> 01:55:14,840
Speaker 7: of Fame induction ceremonies in Cooperstown, New York. It's Hall

2363
01:55:14,840 --> 01:55:17,440
Speaker 7: of Fame weekend, but getting into the Hall Fred McGriff

2364
01:55:17,480 --> 01:55:20,200
Speaker 7: and Scott Roland tomorrow. Roland's going into the Hall of

2365
01:55:20,240 --> 01:55:23,040
Speaker 7: Fame as a Saint Louis Cardinal. He played his first

2366
01:55:23,080 --> 01:55:25,200
Speaker 7: six and a half years in the majors for the Phillies,

2367
01:55:25,200 --> 01:55:28,640
Speaker 7: who drafted him. Career batting average two eighty one. Roland

2368
01:55:28,680 --> 01:55:32,000
Speaker 7: with eight Gold gloves at third base in his career. Now,

2369
01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:34,680
Speaker 7: a player needs seventy five percent of the writer's vote

2370
01:55:34,680 --> 01:55:37,800
Speaker 7: to get in. Roland finally got seventy six percent of

2371
01:55:37,880 --> 01:55:41,920
Speaker 7: vote this past year. Now, Fred McGriff, he has a

2372
01:55:41,960 --> 01:55:44,320
Speaker 7: Hall of Fame plaque that will not feature any team's

2373
01:55:44,360 --> 01:55:47,680
Speaker 7: logo tomorrow. He played for six different teams, none for

2374
01:55:47,760 --> 01:55:50,800
Speaker 7: more than four full seasons, So the appropriate modern athlete

2375
01:55:50,800 --> 01:55:53,600
Speaker 7: getting into the Hall played for everybody.

2376
01:55:53,160 --> 01:55:57,640
Speaker 2: Could have warn that Tom Emanski had Okay, everyone's using

2377
01:55:57,640 --> 01:55:58,680
Speaker 2: that joke. I'm sorry.

2378
01:55:58,680 --> 01:56:02,600
Speaker 7: It's appropriate though. That's the one thing he's most associated with,

2379
01:56:02,720 --> 01:56:06,640
Speaker 7: those VHS videos from maybe years.

2380
01:56:06,360 --> 01:56:08,320
Speaker 2: Back to back AU national championships.

2381
01:56:08,320 --> 01:56:12,120
Speaker 7: Maybe Fred McGriff with nearly five hundred career home runs

2382
01:56:12,160 --> 01:56:15,720
Speaker 7: four ninety three. He finished top five in MVP voting once.

2383
01:56:16,160 --> 01:56:19,200
Speaker 7: He never got more than forty percent of the writers vote,

2384
01:56:19,200 --> 01:56:22,880
Speaker 7: but this past offseason a committee put him in unanimously.

2385
01:56:23,400 --> 01:56:26,000
Speaker 7: Who's gonna get in next year? Where Todd Helton just

2386
01:56:26,080 --> 01:56:29,040
Speaker 7: missed out? This past year he got seventy two percent

2387
01:56:29,080 --> 01:56:32,120
Speaker 7: of the writers vote. Closer Billy Wagner was just under

2388
01:56:32,160 --> 01:56:35,880
Speaker 7: seventy percent. Andrew Jones was under sixty percent of the

2389
01:56:35,880 --> 01:56:38,240
Speaker 7: writers vote. So they'll be back on the ballot.

2390
01:56:38,280 --> 01:56:39,960
Speaker 2: How is Andrew Jones not a Hall of Famer?

2391
01:56:40,280 --> 01:56:42,560
Speaker 7: He was one of the great defensive center fielders of

2392
01:56:42,560 --> 01:56:43,200
Speaker 7: our lifetime?

2393
01:56:43,320 --> 01:56:46,240
Speaker 2: Thank me you that's you know, and say, I don't

2394
01:56:46,240 --> 01:56:48,240
Speaker 2: mean to cut off the segment. Maybe we could talk

2395
01:56:48,280 --> 01:56:50,200
Speaker 2: about this at some point in the next hour, but

2396
01:56:50,240 --> 01:56:53,280
Speaker 2: it's like he was literally the best at what he

2397
01:56:53,320 --> 01:56:56,400
Speaker 2: did for a decade plus. Like in this era where

2398
01:56:56,520 --> 01:56:59,160
Speaker 2: Scott Rowland's a Hall of Famer, we're arguing over Todd

2399
01:56:59,200 --> 01:57:01,800
Speaker 2: Helton that it just seems like an absolute no brainer

2400
01:57:01,840 --> 01:57:02,040
Speaker 2: to me.

2401
01:57:02,360 --> 01:57:05,520
Speaker 7: And he had so many postseason appearances and guys like

2402
01:57:05,560 --> 01:57:11,160
Speaker 7: Bill James, old school baseball stat guys have proven mathematically

2403
01:57:11,280 --> 01:57:14,400
Speaker 7: that you get exposure like that, it tends to help

2404
01:57:14,440 --> 01:57:17,480
Speaker 7: you in the voting. Andrew Jones, who of course had

2405
01:57:17,520 --> 01:57:20,560
Speaker 7: many years with the Braves and then plenty of other teams,

2406
01:57:20,600 --> 01:57:23,480
Speaker 7: even the Dodgers. I remember late in his career his

2407
01:57:23,600 --> 01:57:26,800
Speaker 7: batting average wound up about two fifty two fifty five

2408
01:57:26,880 --> 01:57:29,280
Speaker 7: by the end, but as you mentioned, for that decade,

2409
01:57:29,320 --> 01:57:33,360
Speaker 7: the defense was to say the least there. Adrian Beltra,

2410
01:57:33,520 --> 01:57:35,560
Speaker 7: by the way, is gonna be going into the Hall

2411
01:57:35,600 --> 01:57:38,200
Speaker 7: of Fame soon, maybe next year when he finally is

2412
01:57:38,280 --> 01:57:40,680
Speaker 7: on the ballot. Over three thousand career hits.

2413
01:57:41,000 --> 01:57:41,160
Speaker 5: Well.

2414
01:57:41,240 --> 01:57:44,000
Speaker 7: Last night was the opener for US women's soccer in

2415
01:57:44,040 --> 01:57:47,800
Speaker 7: their World Cup tournament down Under, and the TV ratings

2416
01:57:47,840 --> 01:57:50,560
Speaker 7: were great, even though the opponent was not three nothing.

2417
01:57:50,600 --> 01:57:53,360
Speaker 7: The final over Vietnam could have been four or five

2418
01:57:53,440 --> 01:57:56,440
Speaker 7: nothing easily. I believe they outshot them twenty eight nothing

2419
01:57:56,600 --> 01:57:58,920
Speaker 7: in the game, I kid you not. The opponent had

2420
01:57:59,040 --> 01:58:03,720
Speaker 7: zero shots in the ninety minutes the initial the Fast

2421
01:58:03,800 --> 01:58:06,560
Speaker 7: Nationals as they called them. The initial rating is over

2422
01:58:06,720 --> 01:58:10,320
Speaker 7: five point two five million viewers on Fox, which makes

2423
01:58:10,320 --> 01:58:13,440
Speaker 7: it one of the top ten highest rated Women's World

2424
01:58:13,520 --> 01:58:16,680
Speaker 7: Cup games ever. And this was not a semifinal or final.

2425
01:58:16,720 --> 01:58:20,400
Speaker 7: This was the Americans first game of the tournament last night,

2426
01:58:20,440 --> 01:58:23,360
Speaker 7: and they'll get another one in primetime nine pm Eastern

2427
01:58:23,400 --> 01:58:26,840
Speaker 7: Time Wednesday night in a better matchup against Netherlands on

2428
01:58:26,960 --> 01:58:29,960
Speaker 7: Fox and four years ago the World Cup final was

2429
01:58:30,040 --> 01:58:33,240
Speaker 7: the US against the Netherlands, and in fact, at the

2430
01:58:33,280 --> 01:58:36,440
Speaker 7: Olympics two years ago it was US Netherlands and a

2431
01:58:36,520 --> 01:58:39,440
Speaker 7: quarterfinal that went to penalty kicks before the Americans won.

2432
01:58:39,840 --> 01:58:42,120
Speaker 7: So a large rating, and that doesn't include in this

2433
01:58:42,200 --> 01:58:45,200
Speaker 7: country the Spanish language and the scream streaming which was

2434
01:58:45,280 --> 01:58:47,000
Speaker 7: another million viewers last night.

2435
01:58:47,600 --> 01:58:50,560
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Steve Desager, Fox Sports Radio, Fox

2436
01:58:50,600 --> 01:58:53,720
Speaker 2: Sports Saturday Air Tours, Jason Martin broadcasting live from the

2437
01:58:53,720 --> 01:58:56,200
Speaker 2: Tyrek dot Com studios. As the saga said, Hall of

2438
01:58:56,200 --> 01:58:59,200
Speaker 2: Famous Tomorrow. Maybe we talked a little Andrew Jones in

2439
01:58:59,280 --> 01:59:02,880
Speaker 2: hour four, but obviously on top of Andrew Jones, we

2440
01:59:02,960 --> 01:59:06,320
Speaker 2: do want to discuss the big story of the week

2441
01:59:06,360 --> 01:59:09,480
Speaker 2: of baseball show Hey Otani? Where does he go? Does

2442
01:59:09,560 --> 01:59:12,560
Speaker 2: he go anywhere? Jason Martin I discussed that. Next This

2443
01:59:12,720 --> 01:59:15,880
Speaker 2: is Fox Sports. Are you welcome man?

2444
01:59:15,960 --> 01:59:16,440
Speaker 4: Everybody?

2445
01:59:17,120 --> 01:59:21,160
Speaker 2: Hour four for Torres and Martin take you up until

2446
01:59:21,200 --> 01:59:24,280
Speaker 2: two am Eastern time. Top of the hour. Bernie Frado

2447
01:59:24,920 --> 01:59:28,520
Speaker 2: of The Bernie Frado Show follows us. Bernie Fratto will

2448
01:59:28,560 --> 01:59:32,680
Speaker 2: also join us about twenty minutes from now, but we

2449
01:59:32,760 --> 01:59:34,520
Speaker 2: are on, as I said, for another hour, and we

2450
01:59:34,560 --> 01:59:37,839
Speaker 2: are broadcasting live from the tyreck dot Com studios. Tyreck

2451
01:59:37,920 --> 01:59:40,120
Speaker 2: dot com will help you get there in unmatched selection,

2452
01:59:40,240 --> 01:59:43,000
Speaker 2: fast free shipping, free road has a protection in over

2453
01:59:43,040 --> 01:59:46,720
Speaker 2: ten thousand recommended installers. Tyrec dot com the way tire

2454
01:59:46,720 --> 01:59:49,360
Speaker 2: buying should be. Tell you what, Jason, it's pretty cool

2455
01:59:49,960 --> 01:59:53,480
Speaker 2: in this timeslot. You know, we generally don't get live

2456
01:59:53,600 --> 01:59:57,040
Speaker 2: sports of any sort of meaning, but as the Sacred

2457
01:59:57,040 --> 02:00:00,760
Speaker 2: has told you, Women's World Cup has kicked off in

2458
02:00:01,200 --> 02:00:06,040
Speaker 2: overseas as Sweden and the Republic of South Africa have

2459
02:00:06,360 --> 02:00:09,880
Speaker 2: just started on FS one, so it's nice to have

2460
02:00:09,920 --> 02:00:11,920
Speaker 2: some live programming on while we're on here for the

2461
02:00:11,960 --> 02:00:12,440
Speaker 2: final hour.

2462
02:00:12,520 --> 02:00:16,600
Speaker 5: Jason, Yeah, I mean we sometimes get the Pac twelve

2463
02:00:16,880 --> 02:00:20,360
Speaker 5: late game or something like that. Occasionally a basketball game

2464
02:00:20,400 --> 02:00:23,840
Speaker 5: from like the West Coast or something, but a lot

2465
02:00:23,840 --> 02:00:27,000
Speaker 5: of times you don't. Right now, I've got the replay

2466
02:00:27,000 --> 02:00:29,880
Speaker 5: of the Open Championship from yesterday on right now, which

2467
02:00:30,360 --> 02:00:32,440
Speaker 5: is only just a couple of hours from actually being

2468
02:00:32,480 --> 02:00:36,240
Speaker 5: live action. Because of course, as we talked about earlier,

2469
02:00:36,400 --> 02:00:39,000
Speaker 5: the Open Championship finds its way into our Hearts because

2470
02:00:39,000 --> 02:00:44,000
Speaker 5: it's on such a cool spot. It's like Sunday morning

2471
02:00:44,120 --> 02:00:48,680
Speaker 5: NFL in London. But good, that's sort of the difference.

2472
02:00:48,720 --> 02:00:52,440
Speaker 5: It's like, hey, there's football in England. Oh it's Jaguars,

2473
02:00:52,920 --> 02:00:54,720
Speaker 5: and now that's more interesting than it used to be.

2474
02:00:54,760 --> 02:00:56,880
Speaker 5: But it was Jaguars Broncos this past year and that

2475
02:00:56,960 --> 02:00:59,760
Speaker 5: was not even though that thing went down to the wire,

2476
02:01:00,080 --> 02:01:01,680
Speaker 5: and call that particularly good football.

2477
02:01:02,160 --> 02:01:04,040
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's cool to have the World Cup.

2478
02:01:03,880 --> 02:01:05,560
Speaker 5: Going on at the same time and just having a

2479
02:01:05,600 --> 02:01:07,440
Speaker 5: few things to kind of pallea around with now that

2480
02:01:07,480 --> 02:01:11,560
Speaker 5: the baseball's done for the evening and most people at

2481
02:01:11,560 --> 02:01:14,000
Speaker 5: this point you're kind of looking for the infomercials if

2482
02:01:14,000 --> 02:01:14,839
Speaker 5: you're not streaming.

2483
02:01:15,200 --> 02:01:17,280
Speaker 4: So it's good that there's something else out there.

2484
02:01:17,760 --> 02:01:21,760
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yes, So we have the Women's World Cup currently

2485
02:01:21,880 --> 02:01:25,880
Speaker 2: going on right now, a lot of good stuff going on.

2486
02:01:25,920 --> 02:01:29,080
Speaker 2: By the way, about thirty five forty minutes from now,

2487
02:01:29,760 --> 02:01:33,000
Speaker 2: we have some sound like it'll blow your mind. I

2488
02:01:33,000 --> 02:01:34,920
Speaker 2: have not told Jason what it is yet. I've not

2489
02:01:34,960 --> 02:01:37,440
Speaker 2: told Chris Purfette what it is yet. Disager is still

2490
02:01:37,480 --> 02:01:40,320
Speaker 2: in the booth wondering Pat knows what it is. It

2491
02:01:40,680 --> 02:01:42,400
Speaker 2: boggles my mind. But we will get to that about

2492
02:01:42,440 --> 02:01:44,800
Speaker 2: forty five minutes from now. Bernie Frattle will join us

2493
02:01:44,800 --> 02:01:47,600
Speaker 2: about twenty minutes from now. Jason, you know, I do

2494
02:01:47,880 --> 02:01:50,600
Speaker 2: think we'd be remiss if we did not talk about

2495
02:01:51,080 --> 02:01:53,240
Speaker 2: what I think you could argue right now this second

2496
02:01:53,400 --> 02:01:55,800
Speaker 2: is maybe the biggest story in sports, and that is

2497
02:01:56,160 --> 02:01:58,480
Speaker 2: the future of show. Heyo Tani. I know that that

2498
02:01:58,520 --> 02:02:00,560
Speaker 2: we're not going to be breaking any new round here

2499
02:02:00,640 --> 02:02:04,280
Speaker 2: at one am Eastern time on a Saturday, but we're

2500
02:02:04,400 --> 02:02:07,560
Speaker 2: a little over a little yeah, about a week or

2501
02:02:07,640 --> 02:02:11,680
Speaker 2: so from the MLB trade deadline, and Shoe Heyotani is

2502
02:02:11,800 --> 02:02:15,760
Speaker 2: a Los Angeles Angel. Obviously, it's a conversation that everybody

2503
02:02:15,760 --> 02:02:17,440
Speaker 2: on this network has had over the last four or

2504
02:02:17,440 --> 02:02:21,760
Speaker 2: five six days. But it's the topic that is going

2505
02:02:21,800 --> 02:02:23,960
Speaker 2: to take over sports, I believe for the next week

2506
02:02:24,120 --> 02:02:27,000
Speaker 2: or so. As we haven't gotten any clarification one way

2507
02:02:27,040 --> 02:02:29,400
Speaker 2: or the other. Show Heyotani said just the other day

2508
02:02:29,440 --> 02:02:32,400
Speaker 2: through his interpreter that he really hasn't had any sort

2509
02:02:32,440 --> 02:02:36,600
Speaker 2: of conversations with the Angels, either about a trade or

2510
02:02:36,680 --> 02:02:40,400
Speaker 2: even about resigning in this offseason, and so it just

2511
02:02:40,400 --> 02:02:43,800
Speaker 2: brings up this fascinating conversation about what the Angels are

2512
02:02:43,840 --> 02:02:46,280
Speaker 2: going to do here over the next six seven eight days.

2513
02:02:46,680 --> 02:02:50,440
Speaker 2: MLB trade deadline is August first, and the Angels, it

2514
02:02:50,480 --> 02:02:53,960
Speaker 2: is worth noting, entered today on a four game win streak.

2515
02:02:54,000 --> 02:02:57,160
Speaker 2: They did lose tonight, but are sort of back in

2516
02:02:57,200 --> 02:03:00,240
Speaker 2: that wildcard race. So as we get set again in

2517
02:03:00,280 --> 02:03:03,160
Speaker 2: about a week or so from this trade deadline, do

2518
02:03:03,200 --> 02:03:05,560
Speaker 2: you have any thoughts on what show Heyo Tani's future

2519
02:03:05,720 --> 02:03:08,440
Speaker 2: is with the Los Angeles Angeles Not really.

2520
02:03:08,480 --> 02:03:10,680
Speaker 5: I mean when we had John Morosi on a couple

2521
02:03:10,720 --> 02:03:14,280
Speaker 5: of weeks ago our MLB Insider, he said, you know,

2522
02:03:14,640 --> 02:03:15,680
Speaker 5: he's not going anywhere.

2523
02:03:15,760 --> 02:03:17,320
Speaker 4: He didn't feel like he was going anywhere.

2524
02:03:18,080 --> 02:03:20,960
Speaker 5: We'll have Bernie on next segment, Bernie Fretto, and he

2525
02:03:21,040 --> 02:03:23,040
Speaker 5: will have his opinion on this as well, and we've

2526
02:03:23,080 --> 02:03:25,680
Speaker 5: talked to him about it a few different times. This

2527
02:03:25,760 --> 02:03:27,440
Speaker 5: is what I've been thinking about all day since I

2528
02:03:27,480 --> 02:03:30,320
Speaker 5: knew we were coming to talking about this, as we

2529
02:03:30,360 --> 02:03:32,720
Speaker 5: could have talked about it every week for the last month,

2530
02:03:32,800 --> 02:03:35,400
Speaker 5: but we knew this was still going to be a story,

2531
02:03:35,440 --> 02:03:41,040
Speaker 5: and here it is. If you are a team, because

2532
02:03:41,200 --> 02:03:43,120
Speaker 5: I read one article where this will be the highest

2533
02:03:43,120 --> 02:03:45,480
Speaker 5: rental of all time, right, you bring in a mercenary

2534
02:03:45,520 --> 02:03:48,920
Speaker 5: for the rest of the year to go win a championship. Well,

2535
02:03:48,920 --> 02:03:50,880
Speaker 5: you better win the championship if you're not going to

2536
02:03:50,960 --> 02:03:53,200
Speaker 5: resign him, right, Like, if you're gonna if you're a

2537
02:03:53,240 --> 02:03:56,320
Speaker 5: team that's it's just hard to say. Like even if

2538
02:03:56,360 --> 02:03:58,320
Speaker 5: you think you're an Otani away and you bring in

2539
02:03:58,400 --> 02:04:01,040
Speaker 5: Otani and then don't win the champion ship, but it's

2540
02:04:01,080 --> 02:04:05,160
Speaker 5: not one of his preferred destinations. What exactly have you

2541
02:04:05,200 --> 02:04:06,520
Speaker 5: accomplished on that one.

2542
02:04:06,480 --> 02:04:10,120
Speaker 2: Well, he accomplished giving away a lot, Yeah, capital exactly,

2543
02:04:10,240 --> 02:04:12,200
Speaker 2: keep him yep, exactly.

2544
02:04:12,240 --> 02:04:16,520
Speaker 5: And Ardi Moreno, according to everything that I have read,

2545
02:04:17,240 --> 02:04:20,000
Speaker 5: if he thinks there's a shot that they can keep Otani,

2546
02:04:20,040 --> 02:04:22,160
Speaker 5: he's not going to move him because he wants that

2547
02:04:22,200 --> 02:04:24,920
Speaker 5: option still to be there. And the argument that we

2548
02:04:25,040 --> 02:04:28,240
Speaker 5: kind of posed in our discussions weeks ago about this

2549
02:04:28,520 --> 02:04:32,000
Speaker 5: was do you want to be the executive that let

2550
02:04:32,000 --> 02:04:34,400
Speaker 5: that guy out the door without trying to keep him.

2551
02:04:34,680 --> 02:04:36,840
Speaker 5: You trade him early? What are the fans going to do?

2552
02:04:36,840 --> 02:04:38,640
Speaker 5: Are they going to understand while he wasn't gonna stay

2553
02:04:38,640 --> 02:04:41,240
Speaker 5: here anyway, or do you just have to throw the

2554
02:04:41,240 --> 02:04:43,680
Speaker 5: most ridiculous contract that this guy may be in the

2555
02:04:43,720 --> 02:04:47,720
Speaker 5: history of sports. I mean, something just dumb money, something

2556
02:04:47,760 --> 02:04:51,120
Speaker 5: that would just make everybody stop on a dime, and

2557
02:04:51,240 --> 02:04:55,240
Speaker 5: dare him to say no to that and say, look, man,

2558
02:04:55,320 --> 02:04:57,560
Speaker 5: I offered him a billion dollars and he said no.

2559
02:04:57,560 --> 02:04:59,040
Speaker 4: Now, I'm just throwing that number out there.

2560
02:04:59,080 --> 02:05:03,320
Speaker 5: But I offered him two hundred million, clear of what

2561
02:05:03,560 --> 02:05:06,160
Speaker 5: the max contract in the history of this league was,

2562
02:05:06,560 --> 02:05:08,960
Speaker 5: and he still said no. I did everything I could.

2563
02:05:09,000 --> 02:05:09,760
Speaker 4: Guys, I'm sorry.

2564
02:05:10,560 --> 02:05:14,200
Speaker 5: I just there's so many things here. There's it does

2565
02:05:14,240 --> 02:05:18,680
Speaker 5: seem like the tide of baseball writers and baseball experts

2566
02:05:18,760 --> 02:05:22,600
Speaker 5: is moving towards trading. I still don't know that I

2567
02:05:22,640 --> 02:05:25,520
Speaker 5: agree with that, just because I don't know what kind

2568
02:05:25,520 --> 02:05:27,760
Speaker 5: of haul you're actually gonna be able to get at

2569
02:05:27,760 --> 02:05:29,800
Speaker 5: this point for a team. I mean, if the team's

2570
02:05:29,800 --> 02:05:31,360
Speaker 5: gonna make the deal, they have to think they have

2571
02:05:31,400 --> 02:05:33,240
Speaker 5: a really good shot to re sign him at that

2572
02:05:33,280 --> 02:05:35,480
Speaker 5: point in time. And I don't think that there's that

2573
02:05:35,720 --> 02:05:40,520
Speaker 5: many teams that would feel particularly comfortable in that spot.

2574
02:05:40,600 --> 02:05:42,160
Speaker 5: Like if he were to go to the Dodgers, that'd

2575
02:05:42,200 --> 02:05:43,680
Speaker 5: be one thing, But I don't think the Angels are

2576
02:05:43,680 --> 02:05:46,640
Speaker 5: trading him to the Dodgers. I don't think Moreno's dealing

2577
02:05:46,680 --> 02:05:50,240
Speaker 5: him to La So I just there's still a lot

2578
02:05:50,280 --> 02:05:52,200
Speaker 5: to be tried to figure out here. I tend to

2579
02:05:52,200 --> 02:05:53,760
Speaker 5: think he's he's gonna stay put.

2580
02:05:54,680 --> 02:05:58,360
Speaker 2: So I think I think they put to for the

2581
02:05:58,400 --> 02:06:00,920
Speaker 2: same reasons that we've discussed for the last three weeks,

2582
02:06:00,920 --> 02:06:05,120
Speaker 2: which is the combination of will a team give up

2583
02:06:05,640 --> 02:06:08,040
Speaker 2: something that is of will they give up the volume

2584
02:06:08,080 --> 02:06:11,120
Speaker 2: that will be needed to trade the most unique player

2585
02:06:11,160 --> 02:06:14,120
Speaker 2: in modern baseball history and make the Angels feel like

2586
02:06:14,160 --> 02:06:17,839
Speaker 2: they got something pseudo worthwhile even though nothing will match Otani.

2587
02:06:18,120 --> 02:06:20,040
Speaker 2: But then on the flip side, is a team going

2588
02:06:20,080 --> 02:06:22,520
Speaker 2: to be willing to do that knowing that they may

2589
02:06:22,560 --> 02:06:24,640
Speaker 2: not be able to keep them. I've been thinking about

2590
02:06:24,680 --> 02:06:27,080
Speaker 2: this a lot, Jason is first of all, I think

2591
02:06:27,120 --> 02:06:29,800
Speaker 2: the idea something that keeps kind of coming up with

2592
02:06:29,880 --> 02:06:33,480
Speaker 2: me is the idea that like, first of all, to

2593
02:06:33,600 --> 02:06:36,919
Speaker 2: keep Like let's say there's a conversation about keeping Otani

2594
02:06:37,000 --> 02:06:40,560
Speaker 2: with the Los Angeles Angels. Maybe you can't pay as

2595
02:06:40,640 --> 02:06:42,600
Speaker 2: much as some other teams, But what I would say is, like,

2596
02:06:42,800 --> 02:06:46,280
Speaker 2: first of all, I it's it's it's gonna be absurd money.

2597
02:06:46,800 --> 02:06:51,440
Speaker 2: But Otani has taken less money in the past over

2598
02:06:51,600 --> 02:06:54,360
Speaker 2: comfort taking comfort over the most money. He took it

2599
02:06:54,400 --> 02:06:56,120
Speaker 2: when he signed with the Angels in the first place.

2600
02:06:56,120 --> 02:06:58,680
Speaker 2: He wanted to be, you know, in a in a

2601
02:06:58,920 --> 02:07:01,520
Speaker 2: not a super crazy market. Obviously, there were a lot

2602
02:07:01,520 --> 02:07:03,760
Speaker 2: of variables that went in. So one, I don't know

2603
02:07:03,800 --> 02:07:06,480
Speaker 2: that you have to pay them the craziest contract you

2604
02:07:06,520 --> 02:07:09,160
Speaker 2: know that's ever been whatever. And I don't know that

2605
02:07:09,200 --> 02:07:11,400
Speaker 2: you got to go two hundred million over the asking price.

2606
02:07:11,400 --> 02:07:12,960
Speaker 2: And I know that was just a hypothetical that you

2607
02:07:12,960 --> 02:07:15,320
Speaker 2: threw out there. My other thought on this, though, Jason,

2608
02:07:15,360 --> 02:07:19,680
Speaker 2: is this, I understand that the Angels maybe don't feel

2609
02:07:19,720 --> 02:07:23,440
Speaker 2: like they're that close. Okay, one though, and I know

2610
02:07:23,520 --> 02:07:25,480
Speaker 2: this is a team that basically hasn't made the playoffs

2611
02:07:25,520 --> 02:07:29,040
Speaker 2: in a decade, but still it feels like baseball, just

2612
02:07:29,080 --> 02:07:32,840
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, because of how the sport is structured,

2613
02:07:33,600 --> 02:07:36,480
Speaker 2: the super teams aren't like what they once were, and

2614
02:07:36,760 --> 02:07:39,160
Speaker 2: it and there's more playoff spots too. It just feels

2615
02:07:39,200 --> 02:07:42,920
Speaker 2: like teams can flip it quicker than they have been

2616
02:07:42,960 --> 02:07:44,880
Speaker 2: in the past. I mean, the Baltimore Orioles right now

2617
02:07:44,960 --> 02:07:46,840
Speaker 2: are in first place in the Al East, you know,

2618
02:07:46,920 --> 02:07:50,120
Speaker 2: I mean you look back to this time last year

2619
02:07:50,160 --> 02:07:53,720
Speaker 2: they finished in fourth in that division. You know, last

2620
02:07:53,800 --> 02:07:57,000
Speaker 2: year the Minnesota Twins finished third in the AL Central.

2621
02:07:57,000 --> 02:07:59,000
Speaker 2: They're in first place right now. You go on and

2622
02:07:59,040 --> 02:08:02,080
Speaker 2: on down the list. You know, the New York Mets

2623
02:08:02,080 --> 02:08:05,280
Speaker 2: perfect example, where a team that won what one hundred

2624
02:08:05,360 --> 02:08:07,760
Speaker 2: plus games last year and now they're sitting at you

2625
02:08:07,760 --> 02:08:10,320
Speaker 2: know whatever, they are fourth place in the division. So

2626
02:08:10,360 --> 02:08:13,120
Speaker 2: I just bring it up because one, I know there's

2627
02:08:13,120 --> 02:08:15,920
Speaker 2: no reason to think that the Angels will flip it,

2628
02:08:16,520 --> 02:08:18,800
Speaker 2: but it feels like it can be done in baseball.

2629
02:08:19,120 --> 02:08:20,560
Speaker 2: The other thing that I keep going back to with

2630
02:08:20,600 --> 02:08:25,920
Speaker 2: a potential Otani trade is is like I don't get

2631
02:08:26,160 --> 02:08:29,160
Speaker 2: the notion. I mean, I get it because I know

2632
02:08:29,240 --> 02:08:32,240
Speaker 2: money doesn't it doesn't go in perpetuity and not everybody

2633
02:08:32,240 --> 02:08:36,200
Speaker 2: can afford everything. But just because the Rendoon contract hasn't

2634
02:08:36,200 --> 02:08:38,600
Speaker 2: worked out the way that you want it, just because

2635
02:08:38,720 --> 02:08:43,720
Speaker 2: Mike Trout, while a generational individual talent, hasn't equated to

2636
02:08:44,000 --> 02:08:48,560
Speaker 2: postseason success, Like, just because those things haven't worked out,

2637
02:08:49,320 --> 02:08:51,600
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean to me that you automatically have to

2638
02:08:51,880 --> 02:08:55,000
Speaker 2: or should let Otani walk at the end of the year.

2639
02:08:55,040 --> 02:08:57,160
Speaker 2: And I know that they plan on offering him a contract,

2640
02:08:57,240 --> 02:09:00,640
Speaker 2: but it just feels like you know, there's two steps questions,

2641
02:09:00,760 --> 02:09:04,160
Speaker 2: one about is he going to be traded? But it

2642
02:09:04,200 --> 02:09:07,240
Speaker 2: doesn't really seem like most people seem to think that

2643
02:09:07,280 --> 02:09:10,520
Speaker 2: the Angels are a realistic option in this offseason, and

2644
02:09:10,600 --> 02:09:12,800
Speaker 2: maybe that they're not. But I just think if you're

2645
02:09:12,800 --> 02:09:15,560
Speaker 2: the Angels man, like you struck gold with this guy,

2646
02:09:16,200 --> 02:09:18,120
Speaker 2: and you gotta do whatever you can to keep him.

2647
02:09:18,120 --> 02:09:20,000
Speaker 2: And I don't care that you overpay for Anthony Rendon,

2648
02:09:20,080 --> 02:09:21,960
Speaker 2: and I don't care that Mike Trout hasn't equated to

2649
02:09:22,000 --> 02:09:26,560
Speaker 2: postseason success, like you have just such a unique talent

2650
02:09:26,800 --> 02:09:29,800
Speaker 2: on your roster. You gotta figure out a way to

2651
02:09:29,840 --> 02:09:31,800
Speaker 2: try to keep them. That's just something that I keep

2652
02:09:31,840 --> 02:09:33,640
Speaker 2: coming back to. Just because the Anthony rend don't think

2653
02:09:33,920 --> 02:09:36,080
Speaker 2: hasn't worked out, Just because other contracts haven't worked out,

2654
02:09:36,280 --> 02:09:39,480
Speaker 2: doesn't mean you shouldn't offer sho Heyo TODDI just an

2655
02:09:39,520 --> 02:09:42,919
Speaker 2: absorb an exorbitant, absurd amount of money in the offseason,

2656
02:09:42,920 --> 02:09:43,520
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

2657
02:09:43,600 --> 02:09:47,760
Speaker 5: I mean, dare him to turn down something that's just preposterous,

2658
02:09:47,800 --> 02:09:52,480
Speaker 5: like Saudi level, like just something insane, and if he

2659
02:09:52,520 --> 02:09:55,160
Speaker 5: turns it down, fine, like you certainly couldn't have done

2660
02:09:55,200 --> 02:09:57,720
Speaker 5: more than offer that, and we will all understand it

2661
02:09:57,760 --> 02:09:59,240
Speaker 5: when we see that, and we're gonna be like, shit,

2662
02:09:59,280 --> 02:10:01,440
Speaker 5: he have taken the money. That'll become the story Sief

2663
02:10:01,440 --> 02:10:04,160
Speaker 5: taken it in state. Now. If you move him now,

2664
02:10:04,680 --> 02:10:07,240
Speaker 5: then you have the opportunity if you if you trade

2665
02:10:07,240 --> 02:10:09,840
Speaker 5: to probably get some young guys back, some prospects. You're

2666
02:10:09,880 --> 02:10:12,040
Speaker 5: trying to rebuild, you're trying to just start it over

2667
02:10:12,520 --> 02:10:15,440
Speaker 5: because what you have is not enough, and this gives

2668
02:10:15,480 --> 02:10:17,840
Speaker 5: you potentially a whole lot of new assets and you

2669
02:10:17,880 --> 02:10:19,520
Speaker 5: probably get a haul from somebody.

2670
02:10:19,640 --> 02:10:19,800
Speaker 11: Now.

2671
02:10:19,840 --> 02:10:23,960
Speaker 5: It's probably not your marquee level players today, but it's

2672
02:10:24,200 --> 02:10:28,640
Speaker 5: very young guys with a whole lot of upside. I

2673
02:10:28,680 --> 02:10:31,880
Speaker 5: still just look at it and I say, because it's

2674
02:10:31,960 --> 02:10:36,720
Speaker 5: this guy who's once in a history of the sport, Yeah,

2675
02:10:36,840 --> 02:10:40,760
Speaker 5: like exactly one of one. If I think there is

2676
02:10:40,800 --> 02:10:45,440
Speaker 5: a one percent chance I can keep him there, that's

2677
02:10:45,600 --> 02:10:48,200
Speaker 5: still maybe a good enough argument for me to keep

2678
02:10:48,280 --> 02:10:51,080
Speaker 5: him there and to try and turn that one into

2679
02:10:51,120 --> 02:10:53,240
Speaker 5: five before the end of the year, turn that five

2680
02:10:53,280 --> 02:10:56,840
Speaker 5: into fifteen. I just don't see him back with the

2681
02:10:56,880 --> 02:10:59,720
Speaker 5: Angels next year. But it's easy for me to say, yeah,

2682
02:10:59,720 --> 02:11:01,400
Speaker 5: get right to him because he's not gonna be back.

2683
02:11:01,560 --> 02:11:04,040
Speaker 5: I don't know it for sure, and boy, it would

2684
02:11:04,040 --> 02:11:06,080
Speaker 5: be so easy for me to try and talk myself

2685
02:11:06,120 --> 02:11:08,360
Speaker 5: into I can pull this off. I can keep him

2686
02:11:08,360 --> 02:11:11,800
Speaker 5: here because he's so special. If you let him out

2687
02:11:11,840 --> 02:11:14,360
Speaker 5: the door with the season that he's having, which is

2688
02:11:14,520 --> 02:11:17,040
Speaker 5: we've never seen anything quite like it. If you let

2689
02:11:17,120 --> 02:11:19,720
Speaker 5: him out the door and he goes and he finishes

2690
02:11:19,760 --> 02:11:23,640
Speaker 5: that somewhere else, and then he's gone forever, and he

2691
02:11:23,680 --> 02:11:25,800
Speaker 5: goes and has this career that we're gonna be watching

2692
02:11:25,840 --> 02:11:30,200
Speaker 5: for the next decade and just marveling at You're gonna

2693
02:11:30,240 --> 02:11:33,680
Speaker 5: go down as the guy who missed. You're gonna be

2694
02:11:33,720 --> 02:11:36,400
Speaker 5: the team that drafted Sam Bouie instead of Michael Jordan.

2695
02:11:36,640 --> 02:11:39,320
Speaker 5: And I just I don't know that I could look

2696
02:11:39,360 --> 02:11:42,040
Speaker 5: myself in the mirror if I didn't do absolutely everything

2697
02:11:42,200 --> 02:11:46,680
Speaker 5: under the sun to convince him that where he is

2698
02:11:46,680 --> 02:11:48,320
Speaker 5: is where he should be and that we're gonna do

2699
02:11:48,400 --> 02:11:52,640
Speaker 5: everything around him and pay him to try and make

2700
02:11:52,680 --> 02:11:53,920
Speaker 5: ourselves a winner out there.

2701
02:11:54,520 --> 02:11:56,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that one hundred percent. Is if

2702
02:11:56,840 --> 02:11:59,800
Speaker 2: if it just so happens that your team hasn't been

2703
02:11:59,840 --> 02:12:02,760
Speaker 2: going and he doesn't want to be there, that's fine,

2704
02:12:03,360 --> 02:12:05,120
Speaker 2: But you can't you gotta go down swinging, man, you

2705
02:12:05,120 --> 02:12:07,040
Speaker 2: gotta go down swinging. And I think the last thought

2706
02:12:07,040 --> 02:12:08,280
Speaker 2: on a tonny because I do want to get to

2707
02:12:08,280 --> 02:12:11,240
Speaker 2: Bernie Fratto, the last thought is, like I said, this

2708
02:12:11,360 --> 02:12:14,800
Speaker 2: is a guy that has sacrificed money, that seems to

2709
02:12:15,120 --> 02:12:19,880
Speaker 2: value comfort and privacy. And you know, it's not just

2710
02:12:20,040 --> 02:12:22,960
Speaker 2: about the biggest paycheck. It's about a lot of variables. Now,

2711
02:12:23,000 --> 02:12:25,800
Speaker 2: some of them are out of the Angels control, like winning.

2712
02:12:25,840 --> 02:12:27,840
Speaker 2: Maybe it's not either their control, but they're not doing

2713
02:12:27,960 --> 02:12:30,240
Speaker 2: enough of it, so that is a big part of it.

2714
02:12:30,280 --> 02:12:32,960
Speaker 2: But also again, this is a guy that again chose

2715
02:12:33,000 --> 02:12:36,000
Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Angels because of where they are, because

2716
02:12:36,040 --> 02:12:38,440
Speaker 2: of the fact that it isn't a crazy media market,

2717
02:12:38,480 --> 02:12:41,560
Speaker 2: because of the fact that it isn't whatever. You get

2718
02:12:41,560 --> 02:12:45,160
Speaker 2: the point. I'll say this, this is as fast the

2719
02:12:45,200 --> 02:12:47,840
Speaker 2: next six to seven months. This is as fascinating of

2720
02:12:47,840 --> 02:12:49,880
Speaker 2: a topic as we've had in baseball for a long time.

2721
02:12:49,880 --> 02:12:53,960
Speaker 2: Whether he gets traded or not, what happens in free

2722
02:12:53,960 --> 02:12:57,200
Speaker 2: agency and then what that final number is remains to

2723
02:12:57,240 --> 02:12:58,920
Speaker 2: be seen, and it is going to be fascinating to

2724
02:12:58,920 --> 02:13:01,720
Speaker 2: watch Fox Sports Radio ertors Jason Martin broadcasting live from

2725
02:13:01,760 --> 02:13:03,840
Speaker 2: the Tirec dot Com studios, and we are brought to

2726
02:13:03,880 --> 02:13:06,760
Speaker 2: you by Progressive Insurance. Progressing makes bundling easy and affordable.

2727
02:13:07,040 --> 02:13:10,320
Speaker 2: Get a multi policy discount by combining your motorcycle, RV, boat,

2728
02:13:10,360 --> 02:13:13,200
Speaker 2: ATV and more all your protection in one place. Bundle

2729
02:13:13,280 --> 02:13:17,320
Speaker 2: and save at Progressive dot Com. Coming up, head out

2730
02:13:17,360 --> 02:13:19,880
Speaker 2: to Vegas Bernie Fraddo with the Bernie Fraddle Show. He

2731
02:13:19,960 --> 02:13:22,680
Speaker 2: joins us. We'll ask him about Otani as well as

2732
02:13:22,720 --> 02:13:25,200
Speaker 2: everything else going on in the world of sports. Bernie

2733
02:13:25,240 --> 02:13:32,720
Speaker 2: Frado joins us. Next, Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody.

2734
02:13:32,720 --> 02:13:36,320
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio ertors Chason Martin broadcasting live from thee

2735
02:13:36,400 --> 02:13:39,240
Speaker 2: Tireck dot Com studios, and we are brought to you

2736
02:13:39,320 --> 02:13:41,640
Speaker 2: by Discover. The end of your first year Discover credit

2737
02:13:41,640 --> 02:13:45,240
Speaker 2: cards automatically double all the cash back you've earned. That's right,

2738
02:13:45,280 --> 02:13:47,760
Speaker 2: everything you've earned doubled. Seriously see terms and check it

2739
02:13:47,760 --> 02:13:51,800
Speaker 2: out for yourself at Discover dot com. Slash Match, by

2740
02:13:51,840 --> 02:13:56,880
Speaker 2: the way, ceashell Pipes asks, do we have a podcast

2741
02:13:56,880 --> 02:13:58,960
Speaker 2: for this show? Jason, Yes, we do. It will be

2742
02:13:59,000 --> 02:14:03,080
Speaker 2: available shortly after the show goes final at two a m.

2743
02:14:03,200 --> 02:14:08,000
Speaker 2: Eastern eleven Pacific. Speaking of which, the gentleman who follows us.

2744
02:14:08,040 --> 02:14:08,480
Speaker 5: That's right.

2745
02:14:08,520 --> 02:14:12,440
Speaker 2: When that music blares around one twenty Eastern time means

2746
02:14:12,480 --> 02:14:16,120
Speaker 2: we're headed out to Vegas. Bernie Fratto of the Bernie

2747
02:14:16,120 --> 02:14:18,879
Speaker 2: Fratto Show lives in Vegas. Got a lot of good stuff.

2748
02:14:19,040 --> 02:14:20,720
Speaker 2: He will be on at the top of the hour,

2749
02:14:20,760 --> 02:14:24,040
Speaker 2: but he joins us every week around this time. Bernie Fraddo,

2750
02:14:24,080 --> 02:14:25,800
Speaker 2: what's going on, my friend? How you doing well?

2751
02:14:25,840 --> 02:14:28,000
Speaker 11: Thanks for having me, guys. You know I've always wanted

2752
02:14:28,000 --> 02:14:29,040
Speaker 11: to be on the Food Channel.

2753
02:14:29,560 --> 02:14:34,360
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, all right, cho Tani.

2754
02:14:34,240 --> 02:14:36,160
Speaker 5: I know what's your weird food thing?

2755
02:14:36,280 --> 02:14:38,440
Speaker 11: Yeah okay, yeah, I'll make it quick.

2756
02:14:38,520 --> 02:14:41,360
Speaker 15: Look here, and you already know I'm pretty strict, Keto,

2757
02:14:41,800 --> 02:14:44,600
Speaker 15: but I can be a maniac because I'll have a

2758
02:14:44,640 --> 02:14:47,960
Speaker 15: cheap day now and then. And I'm a chocolateholic. And

2759
02:14:48,040 --> 02:14:51,560
Speaker 15: so there's a store here, Von's that has these chocolate

2760
02:14:51,600 --> 02:14:56,800
Speaker 15: brownies with icing that is a mind altering substance. And

2761
02:14:56,840 --> 02:14:59,640
Speaker 15: so I will buy that box of brownies on my

2762
02:14:59,760 --> 02:15:02,480
Speaker 15: cheek day. There's about nine in there, and I will

2763
02:15:02,520 --> 02:15:05,840
Speaker 15: eat them all. Whoa before I get to the checkout line.

2764
02:15:06,360 --> 02:15:08,600
Speaker 2: Oh boy, so you're stealing, is what you're saying.

2765
02:15:08,800 --> 02:15:10,800
Speaker 11: You break the Pat, No, no, no, not pay for it, dude.

2766
02:15:10,840 --> 02:15:12,640
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so you pay for empty box.

2767
02:15:14,600 --> 02:15:16,920
Speaker 15: Well, you know this is a matter of semantics. I

2768
02:15:17,720 --> 02:15:21,560
Speaker 15: find myself getting some odd ball conversations with the lady

2769
02:15:21,600 --> 02:15:24,120
Speaker 15: behind the counter, but it always ends up working out.

2770
02:15:24,160 --> 02:15:26,080
Speaker 15: You know, I've always got the law firm of Dewey

2771
02:15:26,160 --> 02:15:27,480
Speaker 15: cheated and how on retainers.

2772
02:15:27,520 --> 02:15:29,640
Speaker 11: So I'm ready to go. Okay, something breaks out?

2773
02:15:29,880 --> 02:15:30,320
Speaker 5: All right?

2774
02:15:30,320 --> 02:15:33,400
Speaker 2: Well, so Bernie Fratto's cheap day meal by the way,

2775
02:15:33,400 --> 02:15:36,040
Speaker 2: for people who missed it, DK metcalf claiming that he

2776
02:15:36,080 --> 02:15:40,520
Speaker 2: eats multiple bags of candy a week. Jason myself, the

2777
02:15:40,600 --> 02:15:44,560
Speaker 2: seger prefet and producer Pat went through our weird eating habits.

2778
02:15:44,880 --> 02:15:49,240
Speaker 2: Bernie likes the chocolate chip brownies from Chocolate Brownies, chocolate

2779
02:15:49,240 --> 02:15:51,800
Speaker 2: brownies from box. All right, so Burne, let's let's let's

2780
02:15:51,800 --> 02:15:53,200
Speaker 2: get to some of the stuff that I know you'll

2781
02:15:53,240 --> 02:15:55,200
Speaker 2: be talking about the top of the hour. Jason and

2782
02:15:55,240 --> 02:15:57,680
Speaker 2: I just did an extended conversation on show. Hey, o, Tani,

2783
02:15:58,000 --> 02:16:00,720
Speaker 2: we know you have sources and moles all over, so

2784
02:16:01,320 --> 02:16:04,280
Speaker 2: just curious on your perspective as we're now about seven

2785
02:16:04,320 --> 02:16:06,240
Speaker 2: eight days away from the MLB trade deadline.

2786
02:16:06,600 --> 02:16:09,720
Speaker 11: Yeah, so let me just start at the top.

2787
02:16:09,960 --> 02:16:12,640
Speaker 15: I will say it's about an eighty five percent chance

2788
02:16:12,720 --> 02:16:16,600
Speaker 15: Otani is not traded. It could happen, but I doubt it,

2789
02:16:16,640 --> 02:16:20,120
Speaker 15: and which with every passing day the chance is diminished.

2790
02:16:20,120 --> 02:16:22,560
Speaker 15: You heard my impassioned plea two weeks ago about hey,

2791
02:16:22,600 --> 02:16:25,440
Speaker 15: this is show business. And I drew the parallel with

2792
02:16:25,480 --> 02:16:29,240
Speaker 15: Harry Frazy selling Babe Ruth to the Red Sox to finance. No,

2793
02:16:29,240 --> 02:16:31,680
Speaker 15: Nonnette never lived it down. The curse of the Banbino

2794
02:16:31,760 --> 02:16:35,040
Speaker 15: was created. And then you'll hear Jeff pass and a guy,

2795
02:16:35,160 --> 02:16:41,000
Speaker 15: respect certainly with his very cogent laid out, you know,

2796
02:16:41,120 --> 02:16:43,760
Speaker 15: oratory about how you've got to trade him get a haul,

2797
02:16:44,000 --> 02:16:46,800
Speaker 15: and I just don't agree. Respectfully, I don't agree. I

2798
02:16:46,879 --> 02:16:48,800
Speaker 15: debate him on national TV. I respect Jeff, but I

2799
02:16:48,840 --> 02:16:51,920
Speaker 15: don't agree. I'm gonna draw a parallel. Let's go back

2800
02:16:51,959 --> 02:16:54,600
Speaker 15: to twenty sixteen, and by the way, before I get

2801
02:16:54,600 --> 02:16:58,560
Speaker 15: there ever so quickly, these trades are always theoretical, especially

2802
02:16:58,600 --> 02:17:01,800
Speaker 15: in baseball. You don't compare this to the herschel Walker trade,

2803
02:17:01,800 --> 02:17:04,000
Speaker 15: because when you make a trade of the National Football League,

2804
02:17:04,000 --> 02:17:04,320
Speaker 15: there were.

2805
02:17:04,200 --> 02:17:05,000
Speaker 11: No minor leagues.

2806
02:17:05,480 --> 02:17:05,680
Speaker 5: Right.

2807
02:17:06,080 --> 02:17:08,119
Speaker 11: If you get some first round draft choices.

2808
02:17:08,120 --> 02:17:10,200
Speaker 15: There's about a seventy five percent chance they're gonna have

2809
02:17:10,240 --> 02:17:12,600
Speaker 15: a five year career in the NFL and they're going

2810
02:17:12,640 --> 02:17:16,280
Speaker 15: to be all pro. But you have minor leagues in baseball,

2811
02:17:16,640 --> 02:17:19,040
Speaker 15: and so you can't equate the two. It's a false equivalent. Sees,

2812
02:17:19,120 --> 02:17:22,360
Speaker 15: let's go back to twenty sixteen. The Yankees actually found

2813
02:17:22,360 --> 02:17:25,439
Speaker 15: themselves in a very similar situation. They had three stars.

2814
02:17:25,760 --> 02:17:29,240
Speaker 15: They were all As Chapman, Andrew Miller and Carlos Beltrand,

2815
02:17:29,560 --> 02:17:32,440
Speaker 15: and there was pressure to these guys are free agents.

2816
02:17:32,720 --> 02:17:35,160
Speaker 15: You gotta do something, get yourself a hall in the Yankees.

2817
02:17:35,160 --> 02:17:37,760
Speaker 15: We're not sellers. We're not sellers, we're not sellers. Well,

2818
02:17:37,800 --> 02:17:41,800
Speaker 15: Brian Kapschman went nuts at the trade deadline, and he

2819
02:17:41,959 --> 02:17:45,320
Speaker 15: was given rare reviews. The Yankees now the best farm

2820
02:17:45,360 --> 02:17:48,279
Speaker 15: system in baseball because they traded Chapman to the Cubs,

2821
02:17:48,360 --> 02:17:51,480
Speaker 15: Andrew Miller of the Indians, and Carlos Beltrand to Texas

2822
02:17:51,520 --> 02:17:53,920
Speaker 15: in exchange for eleven players.

2823
02:17:54,680 --> 02:17:56,080
Speaker 11: Ten of them were minor leaguers.

2824
02:17:56,800 --> 02:18:00,800
Speaker 15: Of those eleven, you can only name one that's doing

2825
02:18:00,840 --> 02:18:03,480
Speaker 15: anything for the Yankees right now, and that's Glaber Taurus.

2826
02:18:03,520 --> 02:18:06,440
Speaker 15: And oh, by the way, yes, the Yankees got what

2827
02:18:06,480 --> 02:18:10,080
Speaker 15: will be considered six of the top sixteen prospects according

2828
02:18:10,120 --> 02:18:12,279
Speaker 15: to Major League Pipeline back in twenty sixteen.

2829
02:18:13,080 --> 02:18:15,080
Speaker 11: How many World Series are the Yankees won in the

2830
02:18:15,120 --> 02:18:16,039
Speaker 11: last seven years.

2831
02:18:16,400 --> 02:18:21,160
Speaker 15: So these things are always theoretical. I also believe I'm

2832
02:18:21,160 --> 02:18:24,560
Speaker 15: hearing that Atani likes living in southern California. He likes

2833
02:18:24,600 --> 02:18:27,360
Speaker 15: the vibe of the Angel organization. There's not a hell

2834
02:18:27,400 --> 02:18:29,600
Speaker 15: of a lot of pressure there, and I don't think

2835
02:18:29,600 --> 02:18:32,000
Speaker 15: he wants to live outside of the state of California.

2836
02:18:32,120 --> 02:18:33,840
Speaker 15: So when you start to read the tea leaves, my

2837
02:18:33,959 --> 02:18:36,600
Speaker 15: gut tells me they have a very good chance of

2838
02:18:36,680 --> 02:18:39,240
Speaker 15: coming to terms. And I haven't heard one person yet

2839
02:18:39,280 --> 02:18:42,720
Speaker 15: say that Atani is driven by money, So any way

2840
02:18:42,800 --> 02:18:45,280
Speaker 15: is sliced. He's going to have enough money for the

2841
02:18:45,320 --> 02:18:49,600
Speaker 15: next Otani lifetime, ten lifetimes, and so let's see what happens.

2842
02:18:50,000 --> 02:18:53,600
Speaker 15: Because to a degree, my narrative is theoretical. But I

2843
02:18:53,680 --> 02:18:54,480
Speaker 15: do bring receipts.

2844
02:18:55,879 --> 02:18:58,280
Speaker 5: That's really interesting, Bernie, and I basically said in the

2845
02:18:58,360 --> 02:19:00,840
Speaker 5: last segment, if if I was already and I thought

2846
02:19:00,879 --> 02:19:02,920
Speaker 5: there was a one percent chance that might be enough

2847
02:19:02,920 --> 02:19:05,800
Speaker 5: for me, that might be enough for me, because I just.

2848
02:19:05,840 --> 02:19:07,040
Speaker 4: See the value here.

2849
02:19:07,640 --> 02:19:10,400
Speaker 5: If money is not the thing for him, if he

2850
02:19:10,560 --> 02:19:14,000
Speaker 5: is in a comfort zone and he and you think

2851
02:19:14,040 --> 02:19:16,240
Speaker 5: that there is actually a legit chance that they could

2852
02:19:16,280 --> 02:19:19,279
Speaker 5: come to terms, yeah, then you don't even answer the phone.

2853
02:19:20,240 --> 02:19:22,600
Speaker 5: In my opinion, because this guy is just he's such

2854
02:19:22,640 --> 02:19:26,240
Speaker 5: a unicorn. He's such a once in a eighteen generation

2855
02:19:26,440 --> 02:19:29,600
Speaker 5: kind of player that you just have to you have

2856
02:19:29,640 --> 02:19:32,240
Speaker 5: to overturn every stone, and you have to know, beyond

2857
02:19:32,240 --> 02:19:34,560
Speaker 5: the shadow of a doubt, he hates your organization. He

2858
02:19:34,600 --> 02:19:37,520
Speaker 5: doesn't want to be there before I am willing to

2859
02:19:37,520 --> 02:19:40,480
Speaker 5: completely cut the cord and think that bartering him off

2860
02:19:40,480 --> 02:19:43,560
Speaker 5: for a bunch of young prospects that might never develop

2861
02:19:43,640 --> 02:19:44,600
Speaker 5: would be a good move.

2862
02:19:44,720 --> 02:19:46,480
Speaker 11: I think he's once in a century player.

2863
02:19:46,560 --> 02:19:50,200
Speaker 15: He's leasing, and he's hitting, and I gave some stats

2864
02:19:50,280 --> 02:19:53,039
Speaker 15: last night on my show. It's interesting when you compare

2865
02:19:53,080 --> 02:19:56,119
Speaker 15: o Tany to Ruth after the same number of it bats,

2866
02:19:56,879 --> 02:19:58,920
Speaker 15: Ruth that hit one hundred and fifty nine home runs

2867
02:19:58,920 --> 02:20:01,560
Speaker 15: a tiny one hundred and six. After their first four

2868
02:20:01,640 --> 02:20:04,240
Speaker 15: hundred and fifty five innings pitched in Major League Baseball,

2869
02:20:04,480 --> 02:20:06,760
Speaker 15: Otani had a record of thirty five and nineteen on

2870
02:20:06,800 --> 02:20:09,880
Speaker 15: the mound, Ruth was thirty five and eighteen, and it

2871
02:20:10,080 --> 02:20:13,720
Speaker 15: just doesn't stop. Monday night, Otani became the fifth player

2872
02:20:13,760 --> 02:20:15,880
Speaker 15: since two thousand with thirty five home runs in her

2873
02:20:15,879 --> 02:20:18,760
Speaker 15: team's first ninety five games. We can give a tany

2874
02:20:18,959 --> 02:20:21,600
Speaker 15: Ruth stats all night long. So why do I compare

2875
02:20:21,640 --> 02:20:24,560
Speaker 15: him to Babe Ruth Because this is show business, baby,

2876
02:20:24,959 --> 02:20:27,080
Speaker 15: and you don't trade a showman like Otani. Now this

2877
02:20:27,200 --> 02:20:29,680
Speaker 15: is only my opinion, but I think they will rue

2878
02:20:29,680 --> 02:20:31,199
Speaker 15: the day if they trade him.

2879
02:20:31,600 --> 02:20:33,800
Speaker 2: So no, Burne, I agree, And I think what you

2880
02:20:33,840 --> 02:20:36,280
Speaker 2: said is something that's going a little bit understated, is

2881
02:20:36,320 --> 02:20:40,560
Speaker 2: that he has taken less money in previous instances, including

2882
02:20:40,560 --> 02:20:44,280
Speaker 2: when he got to Anaheim. I want to switch gears. Obviously.

2883
02:20:44,720 --> 02:20:46,440
Speaker 2: You know, Hard Knocks has set the debut here in

2884
02:20:46,480 --> 02:20:49,200
Speaker 2: the coming days. The Jets have already reported to training camp,

2885
02:20:49,320 --> 02:20:50,720
Speaker 2: and I know you've got some good stuff on that.

2886
02:20:51,480 --> 02:20:51,720
Speaker 16: Yeah.

2887
02:20:51,840 --> 02:20:56,320
Speaker 15: You know, guys, there's been this narrative floating around the group.

2888
02:20:56,360 --> 02:20:58,680
Speaker 15: Think Echo Chamber at it again that one of the

2889
02:20:58,720 --> 02:21:02,440
Speaker 15: reasons teams aren't really that interested in being on Hard

2890
02:21:02,480 --> 02:21:06,800
Speaker 15: Knocks is because there's allegedly this Hard Knocks curse. Because

2891
02:21:06,840 --> 02:21:10,080
Speaker 15: no Hard Knocks team has ever been to a Super Bowl,

2892
02:21:10,879 --> 02:21:13,080
Speaker 15: much less won a Super Bowl. As a matter of fact,

2893
02:21:13,080 --> 02:21:16,119
Speaker 15: since two thousand and one, the only team to get

2894
02:21:16,160 --> 02:21:20,200
Speaker 15: to the AFC Championship Game where the aforementioned New York Jets,

2895
02:21:20,240 --> 02:21:22,640
Speaker 15: who are on Hard Knocks this year. But the truth

2896
02:21:22,680 --> 02:21:24,600
Speaker 15: of the matter is, if you peel back the onion,

2897
02:21:25,200 --> 02:21:28,959
Speaker 15: the Hard Knocks curse is really sort of a false perception.

2898
02:21:29,120 --> 02:21:31,800
Speaker 15: It's a false narrative because when you look at the

2899
02:21:31,879 --> 02:21:34,200
Speaker 15: history of Hard Knocks, there have been eighteen teams that

2900
02:21:34,200 --> 02:21:38,160
Speaker 15: have participated in this TV show, as it were, but

2901
02:21:38,360 --> 02:21:40,720
Speaker 15: eight of those teams have gone on to not only

2902
02:21:40,760 --> 02:21:44,240
Speaker 15: post winning records, seven have actually gone on to make

2903
02:21:44,240 --> 02:21:44,920
Speaker 15: the playoffs.

2904
02:21:45,280 --> 02:21:46,840
Speaker 11: That's a pretty good percentage.

2905
02:21:47,120 --> 02:21:49,720
Speaker 15: And the cumulative one loss record is one for two

2906
02:21:49,760 --> 02:21:53,119
Speaker 15: and forty seven and they're four and seven in the postseason.

2907
02:21:53,400 --> 02:21:55,960
Speaker 15: Now you may say, well, that's those aren't necessarily great numbers,

2908
02:21:56,200 --> 02:21:59,200
Speaker 15: but you got to remember one of the premises of

2909
02:21:59,240 --> 02:22:02,200
Speaker 15: Hard Knox is they're only selecting teams that haven't been

2910
02:22:02,200 --> 02:22:05,440
Speaker 15: to the playoffs in the two years prior, so you're

2911
02:22:05,440 --> 02:22:06,840
Speaker 15: not always getting the best teams.

2912
02:22:06,879 --> 02:22:07,480
Speaker 11: Over the years.

2913
02:22:07,480 --> 02:22:09,800
Speaker 15: You've had some dogs, right, You've had the Dolphins when

2914
02:22:09,840 --> 02:22:12,000
Speaker 15: they were bad. You had the Falcons when they were

2915
02:22:12,040 --> 02:22:14,240
Speaker 15: six and ten, You had the Raiders when they were

2916
02:22:14,240 --> 02:22:15,840
Speaker 15: seven to nine, You had the Round when they were.

2917
02:22:15,720 --> 02:22:18,560
Speaker 11: Four and twelve. Absolutely, the Browns were in there.

2918
02:22:18,879 --> 02:22:20,840
Speaker 15: So the longest short that was twenty eighteen when they

2919
02:22:20,840 --> 02:22:23,120
Speaker 15: were seven eight and seven and eight. The longest short

2920
02:22:23,160 --> 02:22:26,199
Speaker 15: of it is there really is no hard knocks curse.

2921
02:22:26,400 --> 02:22:27,360
Speaker 11: It's a false narrative.

2922
02:22:27,520 --> 02:22:29,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I generally when it comes to that,

2923
02:22:30,120 --> 02:22:32,400
Speaker 5: as you were talking, I just thought, well, most of

2924
02:22:32,400 --> 02:22:34,720
Speaker 5: the team's on there sucked before.

2925
02:22:34,400 --> 02:22:36,360
Speaker 4: They were picked like that.

2926
02:22:36,360 --> 02:22:38,600
Speaker 5: That was the storyline going in was were they going

2927
02:22:38,640 --> 02:22:40,320
Speaker 5: to be able to turn it around? Was this a

2928
02:22:40,320 --> 02:22:42,880
Speaker 5: signal that the NFL was trying to tell you that

2929
02:22:42,879 --> 02:22:44,560
Speaker 5: they were going to turn it around? But it's not

2930
02:22:44,680 --> 02:22:49,119
Speaker 5: like you had defending Super Bowl champions or defending AFC

2931
02:22:49,280 --> 02:22:52,440
Speaker 5: Conference champions as you're hard knocks teams. Most of those

2932
02:22:52,440 --> 02:22:55,280
Speaker 5: teams wanted nothing to do with it and were able

2933
02:22:55,320 --> 02:22:55,760
Speaker 5: to say no.

2934
02:22:57,320 --> 02:23:00,480
Speaker 15: And again you spot on and again one of the

2935
02:23:00,480 --> 02:23:02,960
Speaker 15: stipulations is you can't have been to the playoffs the

2936
02:23:03,000 --> 02:23:05,720
Speaker 15: two years prior so, And again it's just one of

2937
02:23:05,760 --> 02:23:08,320
Speaker 15: those things floating out there in the ether that we have.

2938
02:23:08,280 --> 02:23:11,720
Speaker 2: To debunk, Bernie. Anything else to add for your show

2939
02:23:11,760 --> 02:23:13,200
Speaker 2: that's coming up here at the top of the hour.

2940
02:23:13,400 --> 02:23:15,560
Speaker 15: Well, I got a massive, jam packed show to night.

2941
02:23:15,600 --> 02:23:17,520
Speaker 15: I'm really going to analyze whether or not this Women's

2942
02:23:17,520 --> 02:23:20,000
Speaker 15: World Cup team can repeat. We are going to talk

2943
02:23:20,000 --> 02:23:22,840
Speaker 15: with Tany. I'm going to continue my NFL tour NFL

2944
02:23:22,920 --> 02:23:25,480
Speaker 15: West preview tonight. I'm gonna get into Greg Sanky what

2945
02:23:25,560 --> 02:23:28,800
Speaker 15: he said about nil brand new fool, what my name?

2946
02:23:28,840 --> 02:23:31,320
Speaker 15: We got Mark Medeine at midnight, and my buddy Joe

2947
02:23:31,320 --> 02:23:33,879
Speaker 15: Gibbs of NFL Stats, he's going to join us.

2948
02:23:33,760 --> 02:23:34,560
Speaker 11: At eleven fifteen.

2949
02:23:35,320 --> 02:23:37,520
Speaker 15: We introduced the concept a couple of years ago about

2950
02:23:37,520 --> 02:23:40,640
Speaker 15: which referees cost the most, call the most penalties and

2951
02:23:40,680 --> 02:23:43,520
Speaker 15: what kind of penalties they call, you know, versus holding

2952
02:23:43,600 --> 02:23:47,160
Speaker 15: and pass interference and such. Now Joe's taking the data

2953
02:23:47,440 --> 02:23:50,199
Speaker 15: a step further, and now we are analyzing the correlation

2954
02:23:50,280 --> 02:23:53,200
Speaker 15: between the number of penalties teams get per season and

2955
02:23:53,240 --> 02:23:55,440
Speaker 15: how that affects they're not only their win loss, but

2956
02:23:55,600 --> 02:23:57,080
Speaker 15: their ability against the spread.

2957
02:23:57,080 --> 02:23:58,240
Speaker 11: We're going to start to dive into that.

2958
02:23:58,480 --> 02:24:00,800
Speaker 2: As Arnie Spanier likes to say, the preseason is the

2959
02:24:00,840 --> 02:24:03,680
Speaker 2: preseason that's coming up so we will get some advice

2960
02:24:03,680 --> 02:24:05,720
Speaker 2: from you as we get closer to the preseason. But

2961
02:24:06,280 --> 02:24:08,680
Speaker 2: Bernie Fraddo of the Bernie Fratto Show, you can obviously

2962
02:24:08,720 --> 02:24:10,920
Speaker 2: hear him at the top of the hour and also

2963
02:24:10,920 --> 02:24:13,879
Speaker 2: make sure you're following Bernie on Twitter at Bernie Fraddo. Bernie,

2964
02:24:13,959 --> 02:24:16,360
Speaker 2: thank you and we will be listening again at two

2965
02:24:16,440 --> 02:24:17,560
Speaker 2: a m. Eastern time.

2966
02:24:18,240 --> 02:24:20,320
Speaker 15: You're the one. All right, guys, thanks for having me.

2967
02:24:20,360 --> 02:24:21,520
Speaker 15: Man appreciate it.

2968
02:24:21,800 --> 02:24:24,640
Speaker 2: That was Bertie Fraddo of the Bernie Fraddo Show. Come

2969
02:24:24,640 --> 02:24:26,800
Speaker 2: back react to some of the things that Bernie said

2970
02:24:26,800 --> 02:24:29,840
Speaker 2: in his hit with us. But before we do, final

2971
02:24:29,879 --> 02:24:31,520
Speaker 2: time news desk to Sega.

2972
02:24:32,120 --> 02:24:36,279
Speaker 7: It is the five pm hour in Wellington, New Zealand

2973
02:24:36,400 --> 02:24:39,560
Speaker 7: on Sunday, So the Women's World Cup schedule for Sunday

2974
02:24:39,600 --> 02:24:42,720
Speaker 7: night is underway. FS one having a doubleheader of games

2975
02:24:42,800 --> 02:24:45,440
Speaker 7: right now. Number three ranked Sweden is scoreless after the

2976
02:24:45,480 --> 02:24:48,600
Speaker 7: first half hour against South Africa in the rain. After

2977
02:24:48,680 --> 02:24:52,359
Speaker 7: this Netherlands against Portugal. US next game is against Netherlands

2978
02:24:52,400 --> 02:24:55,400
Speaker 7: Wednesday night. Fox TV has a Sunday morning game our

2979
02:24:55,520 --> 02:24:59,200
Speaker 7: time six am Eastern time on Fox. Number five ranked

2980
02:24:59,200 --> 02:25:02,400
Speaker 7: France against Jamaica and by the way, this past day,

2981
02:25:02,480 --> 02:25:06,600
Speaker 7: England only beat Haiti one nothing. England had seventy five

2982
02:25:06,640 --> 02:25:09,080
Speaker 7: percent of the possession in the game, but could only

2983
02:25:09,120 --> 02:25:11,600
Speaker 7: score on a first half penalty kick. Haiti is not

2984
02:25:11,680 --> 02:25:13,640
Speaker 7: only not in the top twenty five, they're not ranked

2985
02:25:13,680 --> 02:25:16,360
Speaker 7: in the top fifty in the world. Denmark over China

2986
02:25:16,400 --> 02:25:18,760
Speaker 7: won nothing on a goal in the eighty ninth minute,

2987
02:25:18,920 --> 02:25:23,480
Speaker 7: and Japan dominated Zambia five nothing, out shooting him twenty

2988
02:25:23,600 --> 02:25:27,480
Speaker 7: five to nothing. American Brian Harmon leads the open by

2989
02:25:27,520 --> 02:25:30,360
Speaker 7: five strokes. He'll tee off at nine to fifteen am

2990
02:25:30,440 --> 02:25:33,600
Speaker 7: Eastern time Sunday. The final round begins at two forty

2991
02:25:33,600 --> 02:25:36,440
Speaker 7: five am Eastern. Cameron Young of the US is in

2992
02:25:36,520 --> 02:25:39,360
Speaker 7: second place. John romshot sixty three to move up to third,

2993
02:25:39,440 --> 02:25:43,120
Speaker 7: six shots back. Kansas City Chiefs defensive lineman Chris Jones

2994
02:25:43,200 --> 02:25:46,000
Speaker 7: missed the start of training camp on Saturday as one

2995
02:25:46,080 --> 02:25:49,080
Speaker 7: year left on his contract and wants an extension. In

2996
02:25:49,200 --> 02:25:52,440
Speaker 7: Major League Baseball's two late games, well we had Oakland

2997
02:25:52,480 --> 02:25:54,959
Speaker 7: winning over Houston four to one, even though the A's

2998
02:25:54,959 --> 02:25:57,040
Speaker 7: had no hits until the sixth inning, they were down

2999
02:25:57,080 --> 02:25:59,920
Speaker 7: one nothing. Houston, by the way, second in the AL,

3000
02:26:00,440 --> 02:26:04,039
Speaker 7: three games behind Texas, Texas lost at home sixteen to

3001
02:26:04,040 --> 02:26:07,440
Speaker 7: three to the Dodgers. LA hit five home runs, two

3002
02:26:07,560 --> 02:26:10,360
Speaker 7: by Freddie Freeman. He went four for five, Freeman batting

3003
02:26:10,400 --> 02:26:14,560
Speaker 7: three twenty eight. An ex Dodger shortstop Corey Seeger of

3004
02:26:14,600 --> 02:26:16,800
Speaker 7: the Rangers goes on the injured list with a spring

3005
02:26:16,920 --> 02:26:19,360
Speaker 7: thumb against La last night. He was injured on a

3006
02:26:19,400 --> 02:26:22,640
Speaker 7: head first slide into second trying for a double. Seeger

3007
02:26:22,720 --> 02:26:25,280
Speaker 7: is batting three to fifty. So the Rangers six game

3008
02:26:25,280 --> 02:26:28,520
Speaker 7: winning streak ended last night and the Dodgers pounded him today.

3009
02:26:29,160 --> 02:26:31,400
Speaker 7: How'd the Angels do well? As you mentioned, they had

3010
02:26:31,440 --> 02:26:34,199
Speaker 7: a four game winning streak going until the home loss

3011
02:26:34,240 --> 02:26:38,200
Speaker 7: tonight three to nothing Pittsburgh. The final DH Shohey Otani

3012
02:26:38,280 --> 02:26:41,039
Speaker 7: went zero for four with three strikeouts. In the last

3013
02:26:41,040 --> 02:26:44,240
Speaker 7: two and a half months, Otani's had ten different games

3014
02:26:44,240 --> 02:26:47,240
Speaker 7: where he failed to reach base safely, like tonight. The

3015
02:26:47,320 --> 02:26:49,880
Speaker 7: Angels are zero to ten in those games, and they've

3016
02:26:49,920 --> 02:26:53,800
Speaker 7: scored a total of seventeen runs in those ten losses

3017
02:26:53,840 --> 02:26:57,680
Speaker 7: according to Statze. So yeah, their overall record is fifty

3018
02:26:57,720 --> 02:27:01,680
Speaker 7: to forty nine. Now they are still with an extra

3019
02:27:01,760 --> 02:27:05,240
Speaker 7: wildcard as of last year. In the race for a

3020
02:27:05,360 --> 02:27:08,039
Speaker 7: wildcard spot, but they would have to pass three teams

3021
02:27:08,120 --> 02:27:11,879
Speaker 7: and catch Toronto, which currently holds that spot. Milwaukee came

3022
02:27:11,920 --> 02:27:14,039
Speaker 7: back and beat Atlanta four to three. The Braves left

3023
02:27:14,080 --> 02:27:16,280
Speaker 7: bases loaded in the top of the ninth wins for

3024
02:27:16,400 --> 02:27:19,640
Speaker 7: Minnesota and Cleveland. The Twins still first by two games

3025
02:27:19,640 --> 02:27:22,920
Speaker 7: over Cleveland and the AL Central. The Mets and Boston

3026
02:27:23,000 --> 02:27:26,279
Speaker 7: split a pair. San Diego won fourteen to three at Detroit.

3027
02:27:26,480 --> 02:27:30,480
Speaker 7: Washington ten to one over San Francisco. Baltimore's alone and

3028
02:27:30,520 --> 02:27:32,959
Speaker 7: first again in the AL East a game over the Rays.

3029
02:27:33,400 --> 02:27:35,200
Speaker 7: Baltimore got a run in the top of the ninth

3030
02:27:35,280 --> 02:27:38,520
Speaker 7: to win at Tampa Bay six to five. Cincinnati over

3031
02:27:38,600 --> 02:27:41,160
Speaker 7: Arizona four to three, as the Reds hit three straight

3032
02:27:41,280 --> 02:27:44,720
Speaker 7: solo homers in the sixth. Cincinnati has won four straight

3033
02:27:44,760 --> 02:27:47,600
Speaker 7: games Cubs in Colorado, each one today. In fact, that

3034
02:27:47,680 --> 02:27:50,200
Speaker 7: Colorado win was at Miami four to three with a

3035
02:27:50,280 --> 02:27:52,640
Speaker 7: run in the top of the ninth. Miami Marlins have

3036
02:27:52,720 --> 02:27:55,160
Speaker 7: lost eight in a row. The Yankees were tied with

3037
02:27:55,280 --> 02:27:57,520
Speaker 7: Kansas City two to two and the seventh five to

3038
02:27:57,680 --> 02:28:01,160
Speaker 7: New York. The final Jincarlo Stanton at run homer in

3039
02:28:01,240 --> 02:28:03,720
Speaker 7: the eighth. He's spatting two hundred Now back to you.

3040
02:28:04,320 --> 02:28:06,800
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Steve Disaga, Fox Sports Radio, Fox

3041
02:28:06,800 --> 02:28:09,440
Speaker 2: Sports Saturday eron Torris Jason Martin broadcasting live from the

3042
02:28:09,480 --> 02:28:11,920
Speaker 2: Tyreck dot Com studios. I just want to spend a

3043
02:28:11,920 --> 02:28:14,080
Speaker 2: minute on this, Jason, to say you can hang around

3044
02:28:14,080 --> 02:28:16,200
Speaker 2: for this too. I want to follow up on what

3045
02:28:16,280 --> 02:28:19,680
Speaker 2: we talked about about forty five minutes ago. So tomorrow

3046
02:28:20,040 --> 02:28:23,640
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame Fred McGriff among those entering, and you

3047
02:28:23,640 --> 02:28:26,200
Speaker 2: brought up the fact to Saga that Andrew Jones, I guess,

3048
02:28:26,280 --> 02:28:29,320
Speaker 2: is on the ballot the former again, Yeah, long time. Yeah,

3049
02:28:29,360 --> 02:28:30,360
Speaker 2: so he's gonna be.

3050
02:28:30,360 --> 02:28:32,400
Speaker 7: I think next year, the seventh year out of ten

3051
02:28:32,480 --> 02:28:34,200
Speaker 7: that you're allowed to be on the Writer's ballant.

3052
02:28:34,320 --> 02:28:37,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. So listen, you guys are both way more baseball

3053
02:28:37,320 --> 02:28:37,879
Speaker 2: guys than I am.

3054
02:28:37,959 --> 02:28:38,199
Speaker 5: Really.

3055
02:28:38,240 --> 02:28:40,240
Speaker 2: The last time that I was really into baseball was

3056
02:28:40,280 --> 02:28:43,240
Speaker 2: kind of in Andrew Jones's prime, you know, in the

3057
02:28:43,240 --> 02:28:46,320
Speaker 2: early to mid two thousands. But you know, it almost

3058
02:28:46,400 --> 02:28:49,040
Speaker 2: reminds me of the conversation that we had about Andrew

3059
02:28:49,080 --> 02:28:51,800
Speaker 2: Luck last week, which was, you know, if you are

3060
02:28:52,360 --> 02:28:56,400
Speaker 2: super elite for a small stretch of time, like, should

3061
02:28:56,400 --> 02:28:58,480
Speaker 2: that be considered This is a little bit different he

3062
02:28:58,680 --> 02:29:02,840
Speaker 2: wasn't you know, we think of home runs, RBI, slugging percentage, whatever.

3063
02:29:03,480 --> 02:29:07,160
Speaker 2: He was literally the best at what he did for

3064
02:29:07,280 --> 02:29:11,240
Speaker 2: a decade. Ten straight goal gloves. Jason, I'll start with you.

3065
02:29:11,240 --> 02:29:14,760
Speaker 2: You're the Braves guy. I feel like it's a no brainer,

3066
02:29:14,800 --> 02:29:16,440
Speaker 2: and I feel like this should have been done years ago.

3067
02:29:16,440 --> 02:29:17,000
Speaker 2: Am I crazy?

3068
02:29:18,160 --> 02:29:19,960
Speaker 5: I do think he's a Hall of Famer? I mean

3069
02:29:20,000 --> 02:29:22,560
Speaker 5: I think again, the metric for me is always the same.

3070
02:29:22,600 --> 02:29:24,440
Speaker 5: It's just if somebody says hall of Fame and they

3071
02:29:24,480 --> 02:29:27,640
Speaker 5: say your name, do I immediately nod? Or do I

3072
02:29:27,680 --> 02:29:29,280
Speaker 5: have to go look at a bunch of stats to

3073
02:29:29,320 --> 02:29:31,560
Speaker 5: try and prove it one way or the other. And

3074
02:29:31,640 --> 02:29:34,240
Speaker 5: maybe that will eliminate some guys that might have been worthy.

3075
02:29:34,560 --> 02:29:37,400
Speaker 5: And there's biases and closed in that, and I understand

3076
02:29:37,440 --> 02:29:38,360
Speaker 5: that can be a problem.

3077
02:29:38,360 --> 02:29:40,600
Speaker 4: But when you say Andrew Jones, I say hall of Famer.

3078
02:29:40,879 --> 02:29:41,560
Speaker 11: I had.

3079
02:29:42,879 --> 02:29:45,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yea. His peak was very, very lengthy.

3080
02:29:45,840 --> 02:29:47,959
Speaker 7: And it wasn't just the start early. I mean, he

3081
02:29:48,000 --> 02:29:50,440
Speaker 7: would always hit thirty homers and he could get you

3082
02:29:50,520 --> 02:29:54,720
Speaker 7: fifteen twenty steals and he was on some great, great teams.

3083
02:29:54,800 --> 02:29:58,960
Speaker 7: It's just as I mentioned earlier, he hung on highly paid,

3084
02:29:59,000 --> 02:30:02,080
Speaker 7: but he hung on the end of his career and

3085
02:30:02,200 --> 02:30:05,040
Speaker 7: so the team the batting average is down under two

3086
02:30:05,080 --> 02:30:06,400
Speaker 7: fifty five for his career.

3087
02:30:07,040 --> 02:30:09,000
Speaker 2: Is that the argument against him? I mean, what has

3088
02:30:09,040 --> 02:30:10,240
Speaker 2: been the I mean, that's the problem.

3089
02:30:10,240 --> 02:30:10,360
Speaker 8: Though.

3090
02:30:10,360 --> 02:30:13,240
Speaker 5: If that is, then you've devalued defense completely. I agree,

3091
02:30:13,360 --> 02:30:16,000
Speaker 5: if he doesn't go into Hall of Fame, then all right, well,

3092
02:30:16,040 --> 02:30:17,720
Speaker 5: if you don't mash.

3093
02:30:17,560 --> 02:30:18,840
Speaker 4: Then you're probably not gonna get in.

3094
02:30:18,920 --> 02:30:23,920
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm looking at this right now with the Yeah,

3095
02:30:23,959 --> 02:30:26,879
Speaker 5: it wasn't great. I mean it definitely was average at times,

3096
02:30:26,920 --> 02:30:29,080
Speaker 5: he was streaky. But he holds the record for most

3097
02:30:29,120 --> 02:30:32,600
Speaker 5: defensive wins above replacement among outfielders. That's more than six

3098
02:30:32,640 --> 02:30:36,279
Speaker 5: above this guy named Willie Mays. He's second in MLB

3099
02:30:36,480 --> 02:30:40,560
Speaker 5: history in total run saved, behind only Brooks Robinson, who

3100
02:30:40,560 --> 02:30:45,160
Speaker 5: won fifteen Gold Gloves. His defense was.

3101
02:30:45,640 --> 02:30:50,000
Speaker 4: Just preposterous, even from like his youngest, like at the

3102
02:30:50,080 --> 02:30:51,360
Speaker 4: very beginning of his career.

3103
02:30:51,760 --> 02:30:53,560
Speaker 5: And he wasn't bad. I mean, he hit four hundred

3104
02:30:53,560 --> 02:30:55,920
Speaker 5: and thirty four home runs. It's not like he couldn't hit.

3105
02:30:56,320 --> 02:30:59,760
Speaker 5: He was just a defensive first player. But I don't

3106
02:30:59,760 --> 02:31:03,040
Speaker 5: think that should be criteria that eliminates you from the

3107
02:31:03,080 --> 02:31:05,520
Speaker 5: Hall of Fame. That's a pretty strong case when you

3108
02:31:05,600 --> 02:31:06,560
Speaker 5: lay it out.

3109
02:31:06,720 --> 02:31:08,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, to me, I can't even think of it.

3110
02:31:08,720 --> 02:31:11,360
Speaker 2: And now, I mean, you know, if you're you know,

3111
02:31:11,720 --> 02:31:14,720
Speaker 2: if you're to Kembe Matumbo and you're just an elite

3112
02:31:14,720 --> 02:31:17,760
Speaker 2: shot blocker, that completely changes the game on one end

3113
02:31:17,760 --> 02:31:18,280
Speaker 2: of the court.

3114
02:31:18,400 --> 02:31:20,160
Speaker 7: Didn't Ben Wallace get in eventually?

3115
02:31:20,360 --> 02:31:22,920
Speaker 2: Great call, so great call. And again it goes back

3116
02:31:22,959 --> 02:31:25,280
Speaker 2: to part of what we discussed last week with Andrew

3117
02:31:25,320 --> 02:31:27,880
Speaker 2: Luck as well, which is that for many sports, maybe

3118
02:31:27,879 --> 02:31:29,640
Speaker 2: not so much the NFL and the Pro Football Hall

3119
02:31:29,680 --> 02:31:32,360
Speaker 2: of Fame, but we've devalued what a Hall of Famer is.

3120
02:31:32,400 --> 02:31:34,760
Speaker 2: I mean, respectfully, I'm not gonna lie and say that

3121
02:31:34,800 --> 02:31:38,519
Speaker 2: I've crunched the numbers on Scott Rowland's you know, candidacy

3122
02:31:38,640 --> 02:31:39,040
Speaker 2: or whatever.

3123
02:31:39,160 --> 02:31:40,080
Speaker 7: A lot of gold gloves.

3124
02:31:40,440 --> 02:31:42,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's like, I mean, Scott Rowland, when you

3125
02:31:42,720 --> 02:31:45,520
Speaker 2: say that name, does it scream hall of famer? Probably not.

3126
02:31:45,680 --> 02:31:48,200
Speaker 7: It was great center field defense from Tory Hunter, who

3127
02:31:48,200 --> 02:31:50,320
Speaker 7: would be in the All Star Game with the Twins

3128
02:31:50,440 --> 02:31:52,720
Speaker 7: and he couldn't sniff the Hall of Fame exactly.

3129
02:31:52,760 --> 02:31:55,039
Speaker 2: So I just think, to me, it feels like a

3130
02:31:55,040 --> 02:31:57,360
Speaker 2: no brainer. And as Jason said, I do think it

3131
02:31:57,520 --> 02:32:02,879
Speaker 2: kind of sort of devalues, you know, basically devalues, you know,

3132
02:32:03,400 --> 02:32:07,480
Speaker 2: in an essential element of Major League Baseball. Fox Sports

3133
02:32:07,560 --> 02:32:11,080
Speaker 2: Radio ertors Jason Martin, coming up, we got one segment left.

3134
02:32:11,680 --> 02:32:16,000
Speaker 2: I've told you that we have sound that will absolutely

3135
02:32:16,040 --> 02:32:18,800
Speaker 2: blow your mind from Fox Sports Radio earlier this week.

3136
02:32:19,000 --> 02:32:21,080
Speaker 2: We're gonna deliver that next Fox Sports.

3137
02:32:20,840 --> 02:32:23,960
Speaker 1: Radio in the two to one, Swinging a high drive

3138
02:32:24,240 --> 02:32:26,640
Speaker 1: in the center fields way.

3139
02:32:26,400 --> 02:32:31,480
Speaker 2: Back is dum.

3140
02:32:30,600 --> 02:32:33,920
Speaker 1: Tristan Cassas for the second time.

3141
02:32:34,040 --> 02:32:40,040
Speaker 2: Tonight takes Max Surezer deep Tristan Cassa's second home run.

3142
02:32:40,040 --> 02:32:42,160
Speaker 2: That was from Red Sox Radio Network, and that was

3143
02:32:42,200 --> 02:32:44,720
Speaker 2: the Progressive Play of the Day, brought to you by

3144
02:32:44,720 --> 02:32:48,160
Speaker 2: Progressive Insurance. Progressive makes bundling easy and affordable. Get a

3145
02:32:48,240 --> 02:32:51,760
Speaker 2: multi policy discount by combining your motorcycle, RV, boat, ATV

3146
02:32:51,840 --> 02:32:54,360
Speaker 2: and more all your protection in one place. Bundle and

3147
02:32:54,440 --> 02:32:59,520
Speaker 2: save at Progressive dot com. All right, Jason, So throughout

3148
02:32:59,520 --> 02:33:03,720
Speaker 2: the show, I've teased that there is sound that is

3149
02:33:03,760 --> 02:33:07,720
Speaker 2: going to absolutely blow your mind. And let me start

3150
02:33:07,720 --> 02:33:12,080
Speaker 2: by saying this a couple of things. One, I'm not

3151
02:33:12,120 --> 02:33:15,440
Speaker 2: here to criticize my coworkers at all. I love everybody

3152
02:33:15,480 --> 02:33:19,200
Speaker 2: that I work with, But Jason McIntyre on The Herd

3153
02:33:19,360 --> 02:33:25,720
Speaker 2: earlier this week said something that was so freaking absurd

3154
02:33:26,600 --> 02:33:28,640
Speaker 2: I could not believe it. As a little context, they

3155
02:33:28,640 --> 02:33:29,959
Speaker 2: were playing a game at the end of the show.

3156
02:33:30,000 --> 02:33:34,320
Speaker 2: They play games sometimes. It was Otani trivia, basically trivia

3157
02:33:34,400 --> 02:33:36,520
Speaker 2: questions about Otani. Colin had to figure out if it

3158
02:33:36,560 --> 02:33:40,480
Speaker 2: was true or false. Here was Jason McIntyre asking Colin.

3159
02:33:40,280 --> 02:33:45,520
Speaker 16: A question show Hay's favorite American TV show is Diners,

3160
02:33:45,600 --> 02:33:47,840
Speaker 16: Drive Ins and Dives.

3161
02:33:49,640 --> 02:33:51,199
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say that's real, that's true.

3162
02:33:51,320 --> 02:33:52,840
Speaker 5: That's not even a real show.

3163
02:33:52,760 --> 02:33:56,240
Speaker 16: Man Diners Drive In and that's a that's a show,

3164
02:33:56,640 --> 02:33:59,440
Speaker 16: that's a show with I just met him last week.

3165
02:33:59,560 --> 02:34:01,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, guy, I just met him two weeks ago at

3166
02:34:01,440 --> 02:34:03,600
Speaker 5: the UFC. Wow, he's a nice guy. It's weird.

3167
02:34:03,640 --> 02:34:05,040
Speaker 2: I have like five hundred channels.

3168
02:34:05,080 --> 02:34:06,560
Speaker 5: I've never heard I've never heard of that show.

3169
02:34:06,600 --> 02:34:07,480
Speaker 4: Which channel is that all?

3170
02:34:07,680 --> 02:34:11,600
Speaker 16: No, it's it's the Food Network. You never never seen

3171
02:34:11,640 --> 02:34:13,880
Speaker 16: that show. I don't ever want Who Got Eddie? What

3172
02:34:14,000 --> 02:34:16,279
Speaker 16: do I want to watch food? I'd rather eat food?

3173
02:34:17,000 --> 02:34:19,080
Speaker 2: What what you're not watching that food?

3174
02:34:19,360 --> 02:34:22,760
Speaker 16: I'm not watching a bagel I'm watching a brilliant chef,

3175
02:34:23,040 --> 02:34:23,760
Speaker 16: an artist.

3176
02:34:24,000 --> 02:34:25,879
Speaker 5: I want him putting the food on my plate.

3177
02:34:25,920 --> 02:34:28,480
Speaker 16: And if you never watched the Food Show, never I

3178
02:34:28,480 --> 02:34:31,600
Speaker 16: don't do any reality shows, bro, none.

3179
02:34:32,560 --> 02:34:33,359
Speaker 5: Is it not reality?

3180
02:34:33,520 --> 02:34:35,600
Speaker 16: Are you still watching that beauty pageant show with your

3181
02:34:35,680 --> 02:34:36,560
Speaker 16: daughter this summer?

3182
02:34:36,600 --> 02:34:43,520
Speaker 2: I turned pretty Yes, I am sadly, Jason. I heard

3183
02:34:43,520 --> 02:34:46,920
Speaker 2: this live and I was preparing, you know, I was

3184
02:34:46,959 --> 02:34:48,800
Speaker 2: I was doing I was feeling it for Doug Gottlieb.

3185
02:34:48,840 --> 02:34:50,320
Speaker 2: So I want to make sure, Hey, I make sure

3186
02:34:50,320 --> 02:34:55,240
Speaker 2: I'm not missing anything. I couldn't Jason, there are certain

3187
02:34:55,280 --> 02:34:58,920
Speaker 2: people in life. Maybe I'm totally crazy on this. How

3188
02:34:59,040 --> 02:35:01,560
Speaker 2: have you not I heard of Guy Fieri? They're on

3189
02:35:01,800 --> 02:35:05,520
Speaker 2: season like forty of Diners, drive ins, and Dives? Am

3190
02:35:05,520 --> 02:35:07,640
Speaker 2: I crazy to think that that is one of the

3191
02:35:07,640 --> 02:35:11,240
Speaker 2: most absurd things that I have ever heard, that you

3192
02:35:11,240 --> 02:35:13,680
Speaker 2: have not heard of Guy Fieri. I don't care if

3193
02:35:13,680 --> 02:35:17,600
Speaker 2: you're a Food Network fan or not. That was absurd

3194
02:35:17,720 --> 02:35:20,400
Speaker 2: to me. Everybody on Wednesday when I was filling in

3195
02:35:20,440 --> 02:35:21,360
Speaker 2: for Doug agreed with me.

3196
02:35:21,640 --> 02:35:22,039
Speaker 5: Is am I?

3197
02:35:22,360 --> 02:35:24,879
Speaker 2: By the way, I love Jason mctire. How can you

3198
02:35:24,959 --> 02:35:27,840
Speaker 2: not have heard of Guy Fieri? At this point in society?

3199
02:35:28,080 --> 02:35:29,800
Speaker 5: Did he say he hadn't heard of Guy Fieri or

3200
02:35:29,800 --> 02:35:30,879
Speaker 5: he didn't know the show.

3201
02:35:30,760 --> 02:35:31,959
Speaker 2: Diner's Driving and Dives.

3202
02:35:32,080 --> 02:35:34,000
Speaker 5: No, I mean, I mean if there is not like

3203
02:35:34,160 --> 02:35:35,800
Speaker 5: seven thousand shows.

3204
02:35:35,480 --> 02:35:38,360
Speaker 2: But they're synonymous though, I mean, he's obviously most known

3205
02:35:38,400 --> 02:35:39,840
Speaker 2: for Diners, Drivers and Dives.

3206
02:35:40,200 --> 02:35:42,520
Speaker 5: True. I mean, yeah, No, I don't disagree with you.

3207
02:35:42,560 --> 02:35:44,000
Speaker 5: I mean when I heard that, it was just like

3208
02:35:44,160 --> 02:35:46,240
Speaker 5: when he said it's not a real show. I was

3209
02:35:46,280 --> 02:35:49,920
Speaker 5: just like, wait, what, Yes, I understand being sort of

3210
02:35:49,959 --> 02:35:53,520
Speaker 5: you know, you got tunnel vision. There's a few things

3211
02:35:53,520 --> 02:35:56,600
Speaker 5: that you care about and some things you don't, and

3212
02:35:56,640 --> 02:35:59,080
Speaker 5: some things that you just totally like. I don't know

3213
02:35:59,080 --> 02:36:01,440
Speaker 5: a lot about Reality TV either. I've pretty much always

3214
02:36:01,480 --> 02:36:05,320
Speaker 5: hated it, except for like the original Real Worlds when

3215
02:36:05,560 --> 02:36:09,280
Speaker 5: when Reality TV first started, and I've got stories about

3216
02:36:09,320 --> 02:36:11,920
Speaker 5: Reality TV and their producers being in our locker rooms

3217
02:36:11,959 --> 02:36:14,240
Speaker 5: and wrestling shows, if that tells you anything. I got

3218
02:36:14,280 --> 02:36:18,120
Speaker 5: a lot of stories about that through the years. But no,

3219
02:36:18,280 --> 02:36:21,080
Speaker 5: that's insane. If he didn't know who Guy Fieri was,

3220
02:36:21,280 --> 02:36:23,840
Speaker 5: that's even more insane, just because even if it's just

3221
02:36:23,879 --> 02:36:26,240
Speaker 5: a lampoon him, because he's been on you know, SNL

3222
02:36:26,320 --> 02:36:29,680
Speaker 5: and people have kind of mocked sort of his way

3223
02:36:29,720 --> 02:36:30,360
Speaker 5: and things like that.

3224
02:36:30,480 --> 02:36:32,600
Speaker 4: But yeah, that's pretty out of touch.

3225
02:36:32,560 --> 02:36:35,680
Speaker 5: Not knowing not knowing that show and just the idea

3226
02:36:35,720 --> 02:36:38,960
Speaker 5: of the I don't know anybody anymore that hasn't watched

3227
02:36:38,959 --> 02:36:40,200
Speaker 5: some kind of a food show.

3228
02:36:40,959 --> 02:36:42,720
Speaker 4: I'm not like the biggest fan of them.

3229
02:36:42,760 --> 02:36:45,160
Speaker 5: But since I've gotten married, I've sat down and watched

3230
02:36:45,160 --> 02:36:47,000
Speaker 5: a good bit of it with my wife. I can

3231
02:36:47,000 --> 02:36:49,720
Speaker 5: see it like, I understand why you would get involved

3232
02:36:49,720 --> 02:36:51,080
Speaker 5: in it. And there's a couple of them now that

3233
02:36:51,160 --> 02:36:54,200
Speaker 5: I actually will watch and sort of enjoy. My parents

3234
02:36:54,320 --> 02:36:56,480
Speaker 5: used to watch the Food Network together all the time.

3235
02:36:56,560 --> 02:36:59,320
Speaker 5: They would go on dates in the house and just

3236
02:36:59,360 --> 02:37:03,280
Speaker 5: watch the Food Network. So Jason mcintsar may need to

3237
02:37:03,480 --> 02:37:05,320
Speaker 5: expand his scope a little bit.

3238
02:37:05,360 --> 02:37:07,480
Speaker 2: It's not even expanding your scope. It's like, I'll give

3239
02:37:07,480 --> 02:37:09,959
Speaker 2: you an example. I was lucky enough. I went on

3240
02:37:10,040 --> 02:37:13,680
Speaker 2: vacation to the Bahamas in May. I'm checking in. I'm

3241
02:37:13,680 --> 02:37:18,320
Speaker 2: wearing a USC T shirt. Okay, the girl checking me

3242
02:37:18,400 --> 02:37:21,680
Speaker 2: in twenty something girl in the Bahamas, she goes, oh,

3243
02:37:22,520 --> 02:37:25,760
Speaker 2: USC that's where Bronni James is going. And I bring

3244
02:37:25,800 --> 02:37:29,800
Speaker 2: it up because lebron James is so much bigger, like

3245
02:37:29,840 --> 02:37:31,840
Speaker 2: You don't have to be a basketball fan to know

3246
02:37:32,000 --> 02:37:33,520
Speaker 2: Lebron James, and I don't feel like you have to

3247
02:37:33,600 --> 02:37:36,160
Speaker 2: be a Food Network fan to know Guy.

3248
02:37:36,000 --> 02:37:37,519
Speaker 4: Fiery, this tea.

3249
02:37:37,600 --> 02:37:40,080
Speaker 2: This TV show is literally on basically twenty four hours

3250
02:37:40,120 --> 02:37:42,720
Speaker 2: a day. Chris Purfett, this watch out right now, we're

3251
02:37:42,800 --> 02:37:45,600
Speaker 2: watching it right now in studio. It's just I don't

3252
02:37:45,680 --> 02:37:47,920
Speaker 2: understand how you could have gone through the last fifteen

3253
02:37:48,000 --> 02:37:50,440
Speaker 2: to twenty years and have never heard of this show.

3254
02:37:50,480 --> 02:37:51,280
Speaker 2: It blows my.

3255
02:37:51,240 --> 02:37:54,200
Speaker 14: Face if I may, as both an Italian American and

3256
02:37:54,240 --> 02:37:57,960
Speaker 14: the former technical producer of Jason McIntyre solo radio show.

3257
02:37:59,440 --> 02:38:01,440
Speaker 14: I don't know how you go through five hundred channels

3258
02:38:01,440 --> 02:38:04,080
Speaker 14: and not hear about the fraud, even just alone to

3259
02:38:04,160 --> 02:38:07,400
Speaker 14: the man, the frosted tips, the flame shirts, the suns

3260
02:38:07,800 --> 02:38:10,960
Speaker 14: talking about he he is his biggest Christopher Columbus to

3261
02:38:11,040 --> 02:38:11,680
Speaker 14: US Italians.

3262
02:38:11,680 --> 02:38:13,840
Speaker 2: Well that that's the other thing is you know, if

3263
02:38:13,879 --> 02:38:17,080
Speaker 2: you remember, especially because he's a Bay Area guy, a

3264
02:38:17,080 --> 02:38:19,440
Speaker 2: lot of Warriors games. He would be at games and

3265
02:38:19,480 --> 02:38:22,039
Speaker 2: people say, oh, you know, Ayisha Curry just took a

3266
02:38:22,040 --> 02:38:24,160
Speaker 2: trip through Flavortown, you know what I mean. So it's

3267
02:38:24,160 --> 02:38:27,119
Speaker 2: like there's just so much Flavortown alone. Yeah, that's what

3268
02:38:27,160 --> 02:38:29,440
Speaker 2: I mean. And what you said is so true too.

3269
02:38:29,680 --> 02:38:31,320
Speaker 2: He said five hundred channels, like if he was one

3270
02:38:31,360 --> 02:38:33,320
Speaker 2: of Like if you're a cord cutter and you don't

3271
02:38:33,320 --> 02:38:36,360
Speaker 2: have any TV whatever, blah blah blah, that guy has fine.

3272
02:38:36,400 --> 02:38:38,720
Speaker 2: I just when I heard it live, I was like,

3273
02:38:38,920 --> 02:38:41,080
Speaker 2: that can't be real. He's he's screwing with us, and

3274
02:38:41,080 --> 02:38:43,800
Speaker 2: I think Colin felt the same way. Unbelievable. We gotta

3275
02:38:43,840 --> 02:38:46,280
Speaker 2: go thank the crew, everybody you know, Producer Pat Perfet,

3276
02:38:46,520 --> 02:38:49,240
Speaker 2: Steve de Sega for Jason Martin. I'm Maren Torres. Make

3277
02:38:49,280 --> 02:38:51,520
Speaker 2: sure to download the podcast Berdy Friern Next Fox Sports

3278
02:38:51,520 --> 02:38:51,800
Speaker 2: Trito