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Speaker 2: It is me Joey P joe P Zapia and this

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Speaker 2: money this NFL season. Let's start off with the recap

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Speaker 2: of the off season here, and let's start with the

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Speaker 2: forty nine ers parties back, Kittles, warners back. Everybody got extended,

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Speaker 2: well maybe everybody for the forty nine ers, but they

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Speaker 2: did get a little pillaged in free agency. They lost

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Speaker 2: sixteen players. They traded Deebo, Samuel Terrell, Firman Junior. Is

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Speaker 2: a lot of turnover in San fran after a disappointing

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl loss and even more disappointing twenty twenty four seasons.

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Speaker 2: So can the forty nine ers regroup with all of

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Speaker 2: this turnover?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I hate to throw you a question

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Speaker 3: to you, but you tell me, I feel like we

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Speaker 3: would only be doing our listeners a disservice if we

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Speaker 3: didn't let the number one forty nine ers hater go first.

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Speaker 4: In this preview.

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Speaker 3: So you tell me, Joe, matter of fact, I wish

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Speaker 3: like if I could control the boxes and everything, I

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Speaker 3: just moved me over into your spot and move you

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Speaker 3: into my spot. Joe, what do you think about the

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Speaker 3: forty nine ers get just completely rifled at free agency

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Speaker 3: this year?

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Speaker 1: I don't love it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, football is a game of continuity, right, I

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Speaker 2: think football football is a game of continuity, and the

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Speaker 2: teams that have continuity with coach and personnel tend to

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Speaker 2: succeed more often than not. Kyle Shanahan's always been a

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Speaker 2: coach that I think is a little too cute for

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Speaker 2: his own good. Sometimes that's just a fact, you know.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes some simple, bs boring ass football would win you

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Speaker 2: more playoff games. I think if you go back and

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Speaker 2: look at some of the tape, I think a healthy

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Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey is really what this team either becomes or

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Speaker 2: doesn't become. And my problem is the same problem Bogman

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Speaker 2: has when the forty nine ers, which is I don't

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Speaker 2: find it very difficult to invest in them. I like

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Speaker 2: some of the individual talents. I like Kittle, I'm curious

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Speaker 2: about Pearsol Juwan Jennings had a really good season.

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Speaker 1: I'm concerned about Ayuk a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I think brock Purty is a system quarterback, and sometimes

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Speaker 2: that term gets thrown around a little too much for

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Speaker 2: my taste. But I think if the shoe fits here,

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Speaker 2: brock Purty's definitely wearing the system quarterback Nike shoes here today,

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Speaker 2: and I think that overall there's potential here for the

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Speaker 2: forty nine ers to get back on track and win

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Speaker 2: possible team. My problem is, Andrew, in your opinion, do

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Speaker 5: think that was one of the things where because it

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Speaker 5: long as they can at least be healthier than last year. Again,

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Speaker 5: And last year the forty nine ers, I mean it

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Speaker 5: because there is no there is no debo. Samuel Brandon

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Speaker 5: the defensive line in the NFL draft. Added Bryce Huff.

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Speaker 5: I think that one of the things is from a

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Speaker 5: Their win total is already really really high. People are

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Speaker 5: expecting it to be a bounce back. So I agree

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Speaker 5: that they will bounce back, but is there a value

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Speaker 5: proposition even though they have like the easiest schedule in

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Speaker 1: That's a good point. The schedule helps, Terrell. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: put to you this way.

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Speaker 2: I think Christian McCaffrey is good for a three to

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Speaker 2: four game swing. Would you agree with that. If he's

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Speaker 2: healthy and he plays every game, you're looking at a

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Speaker 2: twelve ish win team. If he doesn't, you're looking at

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Speaker 2: a potentially eight or nine win team.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that's too much of a hotache.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't. You might be not selling it enough, honest.

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Speaker 3: I think Christian McCaffrey in tandem with the fact of

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Speaker 3: digit win team despite all the turnover that you have. Now,

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Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey will help that go up as far as

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Speaker 3: he may, because it's going to make the offense so

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Speaker 3: much easier, like it's going to look a lot better

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Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey is a big part of this for me.

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Speaker 3: But it's also what Ericson just said. They do have

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Speaker 3: an easy schedule, and if the team's in front of

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Speaker 3: you, you can't do anything with the football, then does it

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Speaker 3: really matter if you've lost this much.

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Speaker 2: No, it's certainly something to discuss, and we'll discuss how

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Speaker 2: The rams big offseason acquisition was clearly DeVante Adams, which

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Speaker 2: I absolutely love. Adams says a lot left in the tank.

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Speaker 2: Clearly he's an ageless wonder. We saw that last year

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Speaker 2: I think when you talk out Jared Verst and some

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Speaker 2: of the other pieces and that defense last year Andrew,

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Speaker 2: to me, you're looking at a Rams team that really

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Speaker 2: started to figure things out last year kind of got caught,

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Speaker 2: you know, in the bad weather, in the snow in Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: It's like the.

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Speaker 2: Last place and situation a team from LA wants to

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Speaker 2: people like me have high expectations for the Rams this year.

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Speaker 2: What did you think of their offseason and what do

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Speaker 5: I still wish that they invested more into their defensive secondary,

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Speaker 5: but I said the same thing last year and it

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Speaker 5: didn't make a difference because they have one of the

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Speaker 5: and that's something that they continue to invest in. We

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Speaker 5: into shootouts, we'll get into shootouts and win those games.

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Speaker 5: I think just comes down to, you know, Stafford and

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Speaker 5: Sehn McCay, are those guys hitting on all cylinders, because

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Speaker 5: when they are on, I mean, this team can go

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Speaker 5: I understand why you want to be bullish, especially we

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Speaker 5: add a guy like Devontae Adams who is a double

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and insurance policy.

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Speaker 2: I think that's really the key because last year when

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Speaker 2: Puka went down, Cooper Cup could no longer pick up

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Speaker 2: the slack like that was very clear Terrell.

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Speaker 1: So this is a team that has a lot of

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Speaker 1: continuity year over year.

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Speaker 2: This is a team that all of a sudden turned

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Speaker 2: what's your take on the Rams offseason into the regular season.

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Speaker 3: I think that I'm very excited, especially on the offensive

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Speaker 3: how that's going to go, and that can be better

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Speaker 3: and they're going to look solid. But the defensive side

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Speaker 3: of the ball here, I'm ready to see what does this

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Speaker 3: is Jared Versus and Kobe Turner really the real thing?

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Speaker 4: Like they've been really, really good really for.

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Speaker 3: Like the past couple of seasons, honestly, and now you

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Speaker 3: are starting to build an identity here. So I'm interested

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Speaker 3: if they get better throughout the year, they figure it out,

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Speaker 3: if it all comes together, Because if it all comes together,

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Speaker 3: then yes, the Rams could be one of the best

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Speaker 3: same question mark on defense that I have for the

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Speaker 1: Right now, all right, let's take a look at the

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Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: A roster on offense. To me, Terrell that resembles the

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Speaker 2: team that gets auto picked in your fantasy football draft.

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Speaker 2: It's just not very exciting. You kind of looking at

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Speaker 2: it and go, oh, this is kind of gross. JSN

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Speaker 2: has potential, but obviously Sam Donald now the new quarterback.

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Speaker 2: They also drafted Jalen Milrow to be hopefully their future quarterback.

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Speaker 2: We'll see how much we see him this year in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, perhaps in some packages, or if Sam

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Speaker 2: Donald looks like the Sam Donald of the very end

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Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty four slash twenty twenty five season,

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Speaker 2: perhaps we see Jalen Milroe a little sooner.

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Speaker 1: A time will tell.

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Speaker 2: Tory Horton and I have some expectations for long term,

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Speaker 2: but I don't know how much he's gonna work this year.

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Speaker 2: Cooper Cup obviously coming over, as well as Marquez Valdez Scantling, Terrell.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm interested to see if this was too

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Speaker 3: And so with that, I think we're maybe not at

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Speaker 2: Okay, he's out. Andrew Erickson, are you willing to make

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Speaker 5: I am not, and I think we're just going to

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Speaker 5: their offensive line. This was terrible last season. Now some

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Speaker 5: of that was due to injuries. I did invest in

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Speaker 2: Klayas Campbell is almost enough to be Walter Nolan's dad,

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Speaker 2: I mean, just looking at the age numbers there, all right,

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Speaker 4: I think I did.

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Speaker 3: I think they do. Like I think that this Cardinals

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Speaker 4: And that's Will Johnson.

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Speaker 3: It coming over from Michigan, he's a guy that was

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Speaker 4: I'm not, but they told.

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Speaker 3: Me that he's a really, really good cornerback and if

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Speaker 2: Let's look at the Arizona win totals here four and

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Speaker 2: a half, six and a half, eight and a half.

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Speaker 2: That's where we can live here. Over eight and a

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna take the over over eight and a half

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Speaker 5: wins at minus one twenty. Furman hit on it with

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Speaker 5: Kyler Murray. For his NFL career, He's been around eight

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Speaker 5: But the thing with the Cardinals that I like the

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Speaker 1: Like this is a team that.

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Speaker 5: Usually starts fast and then they fall off a cliff

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Speaker 5: and that's what happened last year because I bet the

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Speaker 5: I already talked about the improvements they've made. I think

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Speaker 5: Combine that with an offense that's going to take some

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Speaker 5: I like taking the over and what you can always do,

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Speaker 1: Call of duty.

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Speaker 5: Black Ops seven drops.

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Speaker 1: Well, we don't have the release date on that yet,

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Speaker 2: After Thanksgiving, they play Tampa, they play the Rams, they

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Speaker 1: But what say.

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Speaker 4: You, No, I like the over.

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Speaker 3: to be a little bit improved and maybe they steal

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00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:47,639
Speaker 3: a game or two, I think that they're still going

437
00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,919
Speaker 3: to farewell and I like their chances in eight games

438
00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,840
Speaker 3: just against them. And then they have their division which

439
00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:54,520
Speaker 3: is going to be wonky, and I think that they'll

440
00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,480
Speaker 3: win some, they'll lose some there. Like everything just says, man,

441
00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,399
Speaker 3: this is like a nine win team, And I'll go

442
00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,359
Speaker 3: a little bit over here, but I think it's really

443
00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:07,080
Speaker 3: the what Ericson said about the where they play these games.

444
00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,760
Speaker 3: They have one cold weather game this entire season, and

445
00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,960
Speaker 3: that's a broad trip to the Bengals on a Saturday.

446
00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:17,120
Speaker 3: But like, other than that, everything else is either indoors

447
00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:21,359
Speaker 3: or you're in Florida in November in November playing against

448
00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:22,080
Speaker 3: the Buccaneers.

449
00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:22,480
Speaker 4: So like.

450
00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,240
Speaker 3: I I think that they just got the schedule bug

451
00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,199
Speaker 3: where we're gonna see this team either fighting for a

452
00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,720
Speaker 3: playoff spot at the end of the year, or maybe

453
00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,160
Speaker 3: they actually do it and make it to the playoffs.

454
00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:36,879
Speaker 3: But we're gonna be sitting there talking about him like,

455
00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,840
Speaker 3: but are they still really good? But yet they go

456
00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:41,879
Speaker 3: over the win total. But we'll still be questioning if the.

457
00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,919
Speaker 1: Answer the question they're probably not. They're probably not.

458
00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:47,680
Speaker 4: They still get over the win total.

459
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Speaker 2: If Marvin Harrison Junior breaks out, great, I just, I

460
00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,200
Speaker 2: guess said. My problem is Collimory the end of the day,

461
00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:58,119
Speaker 2: Like I said, his demeanor on the field, his demeanor

462
00:19:58,119 --> 00:19:59,600
Speaker 2: in the hoddle, he just looks like a guy doesn't

463
00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,040
Speaker 2: want to be It's just very uninspiring to me as

464
00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,800
Speaker 2: an NFL quarterback, Like I want guys that like you

465
00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:06,720
Speaker 2: see them in the huddle, they have control of everything.

466
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,200
Speaker 2: They look like they're, you know, just ready to go.

467
00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,080
Speaker 2: I mean, he has the same look in the huddle

468
00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:12,840
Speaker 2: like my daughters do when I asked them to empty

469
00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,800
Speaker 2: the dishwasher. It's the same look on his face. And

470
00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:15,840
Speaker 2: it's just it's not good.

471
00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:16,760
Speaker 1: It's not good.

472
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 2: The Rams win total, look, nine and a half is

473
00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,080
Speaker 2: right here where it is over minus one forty five,

474
00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,520
Speaker 2: under plus one twenty five. I would even push this

475
00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,600
Speaker 2: to ten and a half personally, because I'm very confident

476
00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,480
Speaker 2: in the Rams getting over ten wins this year.

477
00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:31,560
Speaker 1: I'm buying the Rams.

478
00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,280
Speaker 2: I was buying the Rams last year as well, and

479
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,120
Speaker 2: it paid off because I thought they were undervalued. Now

480
00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 2: I think they're much stronger cohesive unit year over year.

481
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,359
Speaker 2: The defense feels, I think confident going into the season.

482
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:44,960
Speaker 2: There are a lot of questions, what are we gonna

483
00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,800
Speaker 2: do without Aaron Donald? They answered those questions last year

484
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,720
Speaker 2: they added some more help at wide receiver. So to me,

485
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,040
Speaker 2: I think this wheels up for the Rams. I like

486
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,280
Speaker 2: them not only nine and a half. I would push

487
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,520
Speaker 2: it and put it over to ten and a half. Drell,

488
00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 2: where do you stand with the Rams win total?

489
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 4: How much you I like over on the Rams as well?

490
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,080
Speaker 3: I think the Rams are very much live to win

491
00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,240
Speaker 3: this division, and it just seems like that's kind of

492
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,119
Speaker 3: where they find themselves. Like they they were the team

493
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,680
Speaker 3: that was in the NFC that they had a chance

494
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 3: to beat the Eagles, and they could have did it

495
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 3: last year, and now there's just another year, another year better.

496
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 3: I think that's going to play in part into the

497
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 3: revenge factor as well. How that season ended and they

498
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 3: made the moves. They brought in a Devonte Adams, which

499
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,160
Speaker 3: I think is an upgrade over Cooper Cup. They went

500
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 3: and attacked the defense they have a new defensive coordinator

501
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 3: and that could be something really really special to them,

502
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,199
Speaker 3: because if that defense pushes up to one of the

503
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 3: top defenses in the league, this RAMS team is really

504
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 3: really scary, and you're talking about a ten win team,

505
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,439
Speaker 3: they might be closer to a thirteen win team. That

506
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,119
Speaker 3: defense is really nasty. So yeah, I like the RAMS

507
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 3: go over.

508
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,439
Speaker 2: If that game was in LA last year against the Eagles,

509
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 2: you think it would have turned out a little different.

510
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do do.

511
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 2: I think we did a much much different story. All right,

512
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 2: Andrew Erkson Rams win total?

513
00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 1: Where do you stand?

514
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 5: I'm also on the over, so I like the over

515
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 5: at nine and a half. I don't like the minus

516
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 5: one forty five and so, so I think I agree

517
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 5: with you. I'd rather push it up to over ten

518
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 5: and a half to get a bigger pay because when

519
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 5: I was doing projections for a lot of these teams,

520
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 5: because this division is playing the AFC South. So yes,

521
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 5: we talked about the forty niners having a very favorable schedule.

522
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,439
Speaker 5: Most of these teams have favorable schedules because when you

523
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 5: face the AFC South, you're gonna be favorite and often

524
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 5: and not you're gonna get some ws, So yeah, I

525
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 5: think that the Rams are a team where it's going

526
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 5: to be probably more round twelve thirteen wins or five

527
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 5: wins if Stafford gets hurt, because we know when that

528
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 5: happens usually things just completely bottom out. But hey, Jimmy

529
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 5: Garoppolo is the backup, so maybe maybe.

530
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,360
Speaker 1: And Stetson Bennett still there too, isn't he? I'm pretty sure?

531
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,159
Speaker 2: All right, San Francisco, forty nine or is the win

532
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 2: totals eight and a half ten and a half. That's

533
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 2: kind of where we're living here. It feels like the

534
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 2: smart bet is just to take the ten and a

535
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 2: half at minus one oh five and not push things.

536
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 2: But I find this really hard to invest in. Again,

537
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 2: I wish I didn't, But to me, the forty nine

538
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 2: ers totals to stay away because I think there's so

539
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 2: many variables in it where it could be a fourteen

540
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 2: win team or they could completely bottom out McCaffrey gets

541
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 2: hurt and the wheels come off here. I think that's

542
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 2: we're at that fork in the road here at the

543
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 2: forty nine ers, and I don't know which way it's going. Therefore,

544
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 2: I am just going to stay away from it, and

545
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna invest in the Rams instead. Erickson, how

546
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 2: are you investing in the forty nine ers and are

547
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 2: you investing in the forty nine ers?

548
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, I kind of tease this early when we were

549
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 5: talking about them. I just don't think there's a lot

550
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 5: of value here with the forty nine ers. I think

551
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 5: it's better to because it's all baked in right the schedule,

552
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 5: it's the easiest that they have. And when I look

553
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 5: at this compared to the Cardinal's win total eight and

554
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 5: a half, the Rams win total nine and a half,

555
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 5: I think that all three of these teams could be

556
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 5: live to win this division around get eleven wins. So

557
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 5: the forty nine ers one, the way that it's set

558
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 5: it up here at ten and a half, I just

559
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 5: don't see a lot of value. So for me, it's

560
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 5: probably just a shy away.

561
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 1: A shy away, all right?

562
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 2: Terrell, where do you think the win total lands here

563
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 2: for the forty nine ers come in?

564
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 3: Under think nine and a half is too much, all right.

565
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 3: I don't think they should be the favorite, and that's

566
00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 3: ultimately why I'm fading them. I don't think they should

567
00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 3: be your favorite for this division. I don't think they

568
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 3: should be the best win total. I think the Rams

569
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 3: as of right now, profile as a better team than

570
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 3: the forty nine ers, and they're not being respected like it,

571
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 3: like it, so I think the win total is gonna

572
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 3: come a little bit short. I wouldn't be surprised if

573
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 3: they're a ten win team. I wouldn't be even more

574
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 3: surprised if they're actually third place in this division and

575
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,120
Speaker 3: the Cardinals make a leap above them. I really wouldn't.

576
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,120
Speaker 3: And so I can't. I can't do anything with them

577
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 3: at ten and a half. And I can't bet the

578
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 3: forty nine ers at really any stage. I'd have to

579
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 3: see it to believe it. But Robert Salah coming back

580
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 3: in and looking at the defense that he has now

581
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 3: opposed to the defense that he left with, and he's like,

582
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 3: all right, let's see what we can do here. And

583
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 3: that's just enough for me to not be on the

584
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 3: forty nine ers at all. So give me an under

585
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 3: on the ten and a half wins.

586
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: Last win total here for this division.

587
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 2: The Seattle Seahawks, you've got four and a half, five

588
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 2: and a half, seven and a half.

589
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:48,880
Speaker 1: Torell, what are you interested in?

590
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 3: Hmm, what matter of fact? No, we'll say that for

591
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 3: the end. Just give me an okay, just give me

592
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 3: in under which, yeah, I have another one.

593
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 1: You want to take the under seven and a half.

594
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 1: You think that's the I think Colater, I think he latter.

595
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 4: I really do.

596
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 3: Sam Donald, when you give him full control of an offense,

597
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 3: could be really, really, really bad.

598
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 4: And I you're.

599
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 2: Getting plus three forty at under five and a half

600
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,880
Speaker 2: like that would be bottoming out. And when you're talking

601
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 2: about what division they're playing outside in the conference like that,

602
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 2: that does, I think make me a little nervous about

603
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 2: going that far.

604
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 3: I think Sam Donald is really bad and I'm gonna

605
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 3: send He's still had the turnover issue. He's still had

606
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 3: the turnover issues last year, and I think that can

607
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 3: only be multiplied times ten this year. So I just

608
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 3: I have to see it to believe it, to see

609
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 3: that leaven from Kevin McConnell is going to be anything

610
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 3: good for Sam Donald, because like the only time that

611
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 3: anybody has ever had any hope with Sam Donald is

612
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 3: when he was on the forty nine ers and when

613
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 3: he was on the Vikings, And this Seahawks team is

614
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 3: completely different than those two teams. So I want nothing

615
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 3: to do with it at all I would ladder it under.

616
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 3: It's just gonna be a bad year for the Seahawks.

617
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 2: I'll think the seven and a half minus one thirty

618
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,199
Speaker 2: five is just a really solid bet and put like

619
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 2: two units on ericson. I think that's that's just a

620
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 2: good solid, old timey football bet.

621
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 1: What do you think the under or the over? The under?

622
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 1: The unders? I thought, I'm sorry, the unders of plus money.

623
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: What am I saying, polity? That's what? Yes? The under

624
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: plus one fifteen? Yes all day? Sorry about that.

625
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 2: I mean, that's how confident I am. I'm willing to

626
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 2: take the jews. I misread it for a moment. Yes,

627
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 2: plus one fifteen, Yeah, under seven and a half perfection.

628
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 5: Yes, I'm slamming that as well. Like the plus money

629
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 5: under seven and a half, I projected them to glogy

630
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 5: six six wins. That's what I'm looking at. It's really

631
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 5: against the AFC South teams and maybe occasional home game

632
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 5: that they'll win. But Sam Donald before he went fourteen

633
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 5: and three last year in the best offensive environment you

634
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 5: could ask. For his record twenty one and thirty five

635
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 5: thirty eight percent win rate, that would equate to just

636
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 5: over six wins per year. Over a seventeen game sample size.

637
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,679
Speaker 5: So I just think it's going to be slapping the

638
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 5: face of reality with Sam Donald and it's just not

639
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 5: going to be pleasant. And if anything, this beats us

640
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 5: of Jalen Milroe, you know, potentially takes on snaps during

641
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 5: the end of the season and he's using his mobility

642
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 5: and they're doing crazy things, and that would concern me.

643
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean superflex managers and fantasy here to

644
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 2: excited to see jail Milroe though, that's for sure.

645
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 1: All right, Let's take a look at the division winners.

646
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 2: Here. The Rams of plus one seventy five the forty Niners,

647
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 2: a plus one sixty five the Cardinals is a plus

648
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 2: four to twenty five and plus five fifty on the Seahawks.

649
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 2: I can't believe it's only plus five to fifty. I'll

650
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 2: be honest with you, I thought that. I think that

651
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 2: number is just wrong. I think it's going to be

652
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 2: at least plus eight point fifty nine for them to

653
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 2: win this division.

654
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 1: But it's early.

655
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 2: Look, I like the Rams a plus one seventy five.

656
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 2: I'm just keeping it simple here. I think as long

657
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 2: as Matthew Stafford is upright, Sean McVay is the best coach.

658
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I said it. In that division.

659
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 2: I think the defense came a long way last year.

660
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 2: I really believe in what they did getting after the

661
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 2: quarterback last year, putting pressure on the quarterback. Davante Adams.

662
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 2: Pookinakua is a lot for any other secondary. And Karen Williams,

663
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 2: last time I checked, it's still getting the job done.

664
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 2: Everybody keeps wanting to replace Karen Williams, and Karen Williams

665
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 2: just keeps going out there and having good seasons. And

666
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 2: I'm sick and tire to hear about it. Andrew Rickson,

667
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 2: where are you putting your money on this division winner?

668
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 5: They're probably gonna go with the Rams. Do I like

669
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 5: the Cardinals, but you lay out the good case where

670
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 5: the second half of these Cardinals team, they just leave

671
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 5: you asking why why?

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00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: Why did I why in this Cardinals team? Why did

673
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 1: I not cash out? So I'll do.

674
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Speaker 5: I think that if you want to sprinkle it on

675
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 5: now for the division, and I think that these odds

676
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 5: are going to shift because the Cardinals are going to

677
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 5: start out with a winning record and then you can

678
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 5: cash out. But again, if I'm going to predict who's

679
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 5: gonna win this division. It's it's probably gonna be the Rams.

680
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 1: Terrell who wins the NFC West.

681
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 3: NFC West won by the Rams. Cardinals give them a scare,

682
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,479
Speaker 3: but I think it's won by the Rams.

683
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: So no forty nine to love at all here from anybody. No, well,

684
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: it's nice that you've all come to my side.

685
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 3: It's a horrible it's a horrible price, honestly, like for

686
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 3: the question marks and all that they've lost, and we

687
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 3: bring back Robert Sala, like we don't know, I Christian

688
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 3: McCaffrey's going to be one hundred percent of all season, Like,

689
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 3: it's just a lot of question marks to be laying

690
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 3: the least or getting the worst price, like I would.

691
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: Not what would be the enticing price, you know, Like

692
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 2: if I gave you the gave it a plus three

693
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 2: to fifty.

694
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 3: Oh well yeah of course, yeah, of course plus three fifty.

695
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 3: But if you saw me, it was two to one, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,

696
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 3: right like that.

697
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 5: That's the issue with the forty nine ers because we

698
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 5: talked about the positives with them, but it's all baked

699
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 5: into the market, Like I just don't see a lot of.

700
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 2: The first month of the season too Erics in Seattle,

701
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 2: New Orleans, Arizona, Jacksonville. I mean, if they don't, I

702
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 2: mean it's a very clear four and zero potentially when

703
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 2: you turn the page into October and then who's waiting

704
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 2: for him the Rams and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers right

705
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: after the slap them in the mouth. But I think

706
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 2: you could see this forty nine Ers get off to

707
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 2: a hot start this season for sure, Like that's not

708
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 2: impossible the way the schedules set up.

709
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: And that's gonna I think that's why.

710
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 2: You see the number where it is, and we'll see

711
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 2: how it goes. Now we're gonna get to everyone's favorite

712
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 2: bets here for this division, and I'll kick things off here.

713
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,479
Speaker 1: I like the Rams, not only in this division. I

714
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: like the Rams to win the NFC.

715
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 2: I know the Eagles are fun, they're building the dynasty,

716
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 2: do whatever, whatever whatever, But history is not kind to

717
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 2: guys who carry the football four hundred times of the year.

718
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 2: Go look at the data, Go follow me on social media,

719
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 2: Joe Pisaps seventeen. Go put in Joe Pisaps seventeen Saquon

720
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 2: Barkley and you'll see all the data. Or just by

721
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 2: yourself a Fantasy Black Book on Amazon because it's in

722
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 2: there too.

723
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: The data is not kind.

724
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Speaker 2: So if Saquon Barkley misses any significant period of time

725
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 2: with injuries or issues, I think that hurts this team

726
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 2: quite a bit, and it's gonna hurt them in the

727
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 2: playoffs and for me plus eight hundred to win the NFC.

728
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 2: I like Sean McVay, I like Matthew Stafford.

729
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: I like that duo.

730
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 2: I like the leadership that's there. I'm investing in the

731
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 2: Rams Comeback Player of the Year.

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Speaker 1: Look, this is make or.

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Speaker 2: Break, right, Christian McCaffrey. I told you it's all or

734
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 2: nothing here. If we get the all, we're gonna make

735
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 2: a ton of money on this because it's plus three

736
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 2: seventy for him to win come Back Player of the Year.

737
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 2: And it's the perfect award because if he's great, he's

738
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 2: not going to MVP because he's a running back. But

739
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: we can give him Comeback Player of the Year. We

740
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 2: don't even have to give him Offensive Player of the Year,

741
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,479
Speaker 2: just Comeback Player of the Year. There you go, Christian,

742
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 2: you could take your hardware and take it home with you.

743
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 2: Don't trip over, though, because you've got a lot of

744
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 2: lower leg issues, and I don't want you to get hurt. Also,

745
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 2: Davante Adams, this is my favorite one. This is a

746
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 2: smash over nine hundred and fifty and a half receiving

747
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 2: yards for him minus one fourteen. Smash this, and I'll

748
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 2: tell you why he's gone over this number every single

749
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 2: year since twenty eighteen. He is as right as rain.

750
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: You could set your clock to DeVante Adams. He's got

751
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford Drownham the football and Sean McVay offense.

752
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: Smash this. This is my favorite of all the bets.

753
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 2: The easiest money bet you're gonna find, is that the

754
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 2: best return on investment. No, but it's an easy way

755
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 2: to make some money in twenty twenty five. Andrew Erickson,

756
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 2: let's take a look at some of your favorites here

757
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 2: when we're looking ahead for bets, wild cards, crazy bets.

758
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: What do you have here for the NFC West?

759
00:31:58,800 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: Yep.

760
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 5: So I'm going to be locked in the Cardinals win

761
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 5: total over eight and a half at minus one twenty

762
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 5: and then I'm going to be following that up with

763
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 5: Seattle Seahawks to finish dead last in the NFC West

764
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 5: plus one seventy five. You get that on Draft.

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Speaker 1: Ls sports book. I love, Yes, it is excellent. Now

766
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: wait where rate that? I want to go?

767
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 5: Bett right on DraftKings, the Draft Gings Draftings Sportsbook, and

768
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 5: that comes straight from the Betting Crows discord. I was

769
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 5: chopping it up talking about the NFC West and someone, Hey,

770
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 5: if you're fading, if you like all these other teams

771
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 5: except the Seahawks, here you.

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Speaker 3: Go like dot Com slash chat there you go.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, so that's definitely one of my favorite ones.

774
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 5: Just bet on the Seahawks to finish last. And then

775
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 5: my last one here I think where I'm trying to

776
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 5: kind of angle the forty nine ers because I do

777
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 5: expect their offense to get back up to top ten.

778
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 5: I'm still kind of not sold about the defense. So

779
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 5: Brock Purty to lead the NFL in passing touchdowns plus

780
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 5: twenty eight hundred, so he was third in this category

781
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty three. He threw thirty one passing touchdowns

782
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 5: And did you guys recall that was also during the

783
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 5: CMC streep where he would score rushing touchdowns basically every

784
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 5: single week, and you still saw Purty go over thirty

785
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 5: passing touchdowns twenty twenty four. Last year was the first

786
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 5: year Purty posted a passing touchdown rate below seven percent,

787
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 5: at four point four percent. We've always seen in Kyle

788
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 5: Shannon offense the quarterback posts a high touchdown passing rate,

789
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 5: and last year we still saw Purdy be efficient outside

790
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 5: of touchdowns eight point five yards per ten that was

791
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 5: second best in the NFL fifth and passing yards per game.

792
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 5: So if this defense isn't up snuff and they're playing

793
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 5: in more shootout games, well, I think that means Purdy's

794
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 5: gonna have to throw the ball a ton. I think

795
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 5: he's gonna throw a lot of passing touchdowns. So twenty

796
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 5: eight to one for a guy that has already thrown

797
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 5: thirty plus touchdowns in his career. They paid the man.

798
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 5: I think they're going to give them the ball, give

799
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 5: him opportunity. So I like Brock Purdy at these odds.

800
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: I think that my favorite one is that Seahawks have

801
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: finished last. That is fantastic.

802
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: I absolutely love that, Terrell, What are your favorite bets

803
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 2: for this division?

804
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Speaker 4: All right?

805
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 3: First off, let's con saye the Rams love over nine

806
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 3: and a half wins. I do feel really really good

807
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 3: about the Rams. I think that if they eliminate all

808
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 3: my defensive concerns. They probably could be the best team

809
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 3: in the NFC. Here's the big money play that I

810
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 3: just let's just end it with this because Ericson thought

811
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 3: too small, and I but Ericson thought way too small. Yeah,

812
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 3: you could make a bet for the Seahawks to be

813
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 3: last in the division at plus one seventy five.

814
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 4: Yes, you could, sure.

815
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 3: Or you can make a bet for the Seahawks to

816
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 3: have the fewest wins in the league for forty to one,

817
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 3: forty to one, for Sam Donald to lead a team

818
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 3: to the worst record in the league. And I went

819
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 3: and I looked through the schedule and I was just

820
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 3: going through, and I'm like, huh, okay, let's see how

821
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 3: many wins do I think they legitly can win with

822
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 3: Sam Darnald, Like, they're straight up gonna win this game.

823
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 3: They have a home game against the Saints, you could

824
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 3: get that one. They have a whole game against the Colts.

825
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 3: You might see Daniel Jones get that one too. Every

826
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 3: other game feels like either they lost or a coin

827
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 3: flip every other game, every single one. If Sam Donald

828
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 3: bottoms out, and then guess what if Sam Donald Barnoll's out.

829
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 3: When if Jlen Milroe comes and he doesn't look good

830
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 3: or he's not ready because they've been focusing the offense

831
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 3: on Sam Donald the whole season and not to what

832
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 3: Jaln Milroe does. So there's a situation where they're like, Okay,

833
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 3: no more Sam Donald and then Milroe gets put out

834
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 3: there and he's not ready because they didn't actively get

835
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 3: him ready. Oh what, this could be the last place

836
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 3: team in the league. This could be a three to

837
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 3: four win team. They could give me the Seahawks forty

838
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 3: to one to have the fewest wins in it in

839
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Speaker 3: the league.

840
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 4: The Holy.

841
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Speaker 1: I I gotta say, I can't see him having less

842
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: wins than the Saints. But stranger things have happened. I

843
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: had to head. I know, I know, and I was like,

844
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: oh man, the Saints a weird upset that is very

845
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,439
Speaker 1: much in play. Like it just it's.

846
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 3: Early in the season, now as early as a season,

847
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm free rolling a

848
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 3: forty to one worst record.

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00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 2: Hey man, you know what, what's the Dolphins of the

850
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 2: other team? I would put in that mix too. I

851
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 2: think this could be the year that Dolphins completely bottom out.

852
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 2: I think that organization is just completely bereft of any

853
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 2: sort of adult in the room, and I think that's

854
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 2: gonna be a big problem this year in that division,

855
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 2: just the way things are going.

856
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: But it's not crazy. Terrell's thinking big. I like it.

857
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 2: So there you have it, everybody. That's our take on

858
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Speaker 2: the NFC West. But what's yours? Drop your comments below?

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Speaker 2: Who wins the NFC West? Make your predictions drop them

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Speaker 2: in the comments, and subscribe to Betting Pros right now.

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Speaker 2: Trying to get to one hundred thousand this season, and

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Speaker 2: we could do it with your help on the YouTube channel.

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Speaker 2: That'll do for us, But the story of the game

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Speaker 2: goes on for Terrell and Andrew.

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