1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: This is what happens when the fourth Turning meets fifth 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: generation warfare. 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran. 4 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: This is Human Events with your host Jack Posovic. 5 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 3: Christ is King making a good profit. Fair, There's something 6 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 3: out there. 7 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: Don't be afraid. 8 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 4: This was a miracle to some, but a threat to others. 9 00:00:54,920 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 1: Trust in God, trusting media. So you know the way. 10 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 3: Okay, the Father. 11 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 4: They don't know what they do. 12 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 1: Ladies don't And welcome aboard today's special edition of Human 13 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: Events Daily. Today is April eighteenth, twenty twenty five, Anno domine. 14 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: It is Good Friday, the most solemn day of the year, 15 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: and it is the day that brings us towards Easter. 16 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: And this Easter special today is going to be called 17 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: War for Heaven, the King versus the Damned. You see, 18 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: Christ's resurrection on Easter is not just a celebration. It's 19 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: about picking a side in the battle for the soul 20 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: of the world. Think about it. Two thousand years ago 21 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 1: a king walked among us, not a politician, not a 22 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: war lord, but the son of God. He didn't come 23 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: with a sword or a manifesto. He came with the truth. 24 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: The raw, unfiltered, eternal, divine truth. And what did the 25 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: world do. The elites, the bureaucrats, the mob of his time. 26 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: They spit in his face. They crowned him with thorns, 27 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: and they nailed him to a cross. And they thought 28 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,679 Speaker 1: they'd won. Satan thought that he'd won. They thought they'd 29 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: buried the light. But Christ himself, on the third day, 30 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: rolled back the stone of the tomb. The king rose, 31 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: and the gates of Hell trembled after Christ stormed through 32 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: them on Holy Saturday. That's the story they don't want 33 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: you to hear. I'm not talking about pastel legs or 34 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: bunny rabbits. That's the water down version they feed you 35 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: to keep you docile. The real Easter is a rebellion, 36 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 1: the ultimate red pill. It's Christ kicking over the tables 37 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: of the money changers, staring down the Pharisees, breaking the 38 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: chains of death himself. And we're going to talk about 39 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: Holy Saturday because not a lot of people talk about 40 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: the harrowing of Hell. This is a reminder that no empire, 41 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: no ideology, no lie, no demon, not even Satan himself 42 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: can stand against the King of kings. But look around, 43 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: the damned, the restless, and they're not hiding anymore. They're 44 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: in the streets, they're in the boardrooms, they're in the algorithms. 45 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: They're the ones telling you that the truth is relative, 46 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: that good is evil, the cross is just a symbol. 47 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: Yet they're building their own kingdom, a godless, soulless machine 48 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: where you're nothing but a cog. They want you to 49 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: kneel as well, but not to the Savior, to their dogma. 50 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: Cancel culture, woke ideology. This isn't new stuff. This is 51 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: the same old serpent whispering. Did God really say that? 52 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 3: No? 53 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: No, this is a spiritual war, not just for heaven, 54 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: but for earth, for your family, for your freedoms, for 55 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: your soul. And the damned think that they've got the 56 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: upper hand. They've got the megaphones, the platforms, the power, 57 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: But they forgot one thing. The King already wan Easter 58 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: isn't just a memory, it's a promise. The light shines 59 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: in the darkness, and the darkness cannot overcome it. So 60 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: today we're going to ask whose side are you on, 61 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: the kings or the damned. You can't see this one out. 62 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: Neutrality is surrender. The war is raging, and it's not 63 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: just spiritual. It's cultural. Yes, it is political, but it's personal. 64 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: They call you names, they'll try to silence you, they'll 65 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,239 Speaker 1: try to mock your faith. But let me tell you something. 66 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: Every time they stand, every time they push, you push back. 67 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: Every time they lie, you speak the truth. Every time 68 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: they try to bury the truth, you dig it up. 69 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: Because the King didn't stay in the grave, and neither 70 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: will we this Easter. Don't just celebrate. Fight, Fight for 71 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: the cross, for the empty tomb, for the world he 72 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: died to save. The King is risen and the damned 73 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: are on notice. Choose your side, arm yourself with the 74 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: truth and the sword of Saint Michael, and let's take 75 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: back the heavens. Let's take back the earth, one soul, 76 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 1: one battle, one victory at a time. For he is risen. 77 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,559 Speaker 5: Nothing will stand in our way, and our Golden Age 78 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 5: has just begun. 79 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: This is Human Events with Jack Psovic. Now it's time 80 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,119 Speaker 1: for everyone to understand what America First truly means. 81 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 3: Welcome to the Second American. 82 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: Revolution, all right now on this Easter special I wanted 83 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: to bring on writing. Co pilot today is going to 84 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: be Joshua Lysek, the co author of Unhumans, the secret 85 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: history of Communist revolutions and how to crush them, and 86 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: bulletproof the truth about the assassination attempts on President Trump. Joshua, 87 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: how are you happy Easter Man? Have you seed it 88 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: to you? 89 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 4: To Jack? Thanks having me on. 90 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: So one interesting thing that I've noticed about On Humans 91 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: is that people are starting to refer to it more 92 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: and more as a Christian book, which is interesting because 93 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: we didn't really write it to be a religious book 94 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: in any way, but it does kind of work out 95 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: that so many of the victims of communism did tend 96 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: to be Christians, and that was something that came up 97 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: in the research again and again, whether it be France, 98 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: whether it be Russia, or whether it be Spain, and 99 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: of course what we see going on today. This is 100 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: something where when we did the Tucker Carlson interview, even 101 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: he asked, he said, is there a demonic aspect to 102 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: all of this? And I said, you know, Tucker, we 103 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: weren't writing a spiritual book, but personally, yes, that's exactly 104 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: what I believe. I do believe this is demonic influence 105 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: that pushes people to these horrific evils in society. And 106 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: one of the things that I always like to talk 107 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: about on the program, and I wanted to get into 108 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: in this special is people talk about Jesus spending the 109 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: three days that he was dead, and they say, well, 110 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: he was in the tomb, and they say that he 111 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,119 Speaker 1: was there. But the modern Church has kind of gotten 112 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: away from the teaching of the harrowing of Hell. And 113 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: this is the idea of what happened on Holy Saturday, 114 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: what happened in between the tomb being shut and the 115 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: stone being rolled forth. And this is something mel Gibson 116 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: was talking about this on Rogan recently, how the passion 117 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: of the Christ too is going to go into this 118 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: ancient Christian which was a widespread belief at the time 119 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: of the harrowing of Hell, something the early Church talked about. 120 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 1: It's in the Apostles Creed, which dates back to the 121 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,599 Speaker 1: fourth century. He goes back even further. Saint Ignatius was 122 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: talking about this in one hundred a d. Of course, 123 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: it's referenced in the Bible itself, in Ephesians and in 124 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: Peter again and again about Christ leading a host out 125 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: of out of captivity, in Christ preaching to those in prison. 126 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: And yet it's interesting so Joshua, I want to We 127 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: were chatting last night and even you mentioned that this 128 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: was something that as you were growing up that you'd 129 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: never really heard about. 130 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 4: Yes, so that's right. I grew up in a number 131 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 4: of evangelical Christian conservative communities, and while they certainly have 132 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 4: their upsides, like the memorization of the epistles, memorization of 133 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 4: the Gospels, and being able to recite this or that 134 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 4: Bible verse for everything, one of the things that was 135 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 4: lacking is an investigation of these most ancient teachings and 136 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 4: stories from the Bible, the Bible itself, and of course 137 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 4: one of those is the herowing of Hell. Now, if 138 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 4: we look at what the word herowing means, it comes 139 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 4: from an old English word that means to pillage or 140 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 4: to plunder, and we go what pillage or plunder? And 141 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 4: then if we look at what we considered to be 142 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 4: non Christian, to think about that for a second, the 143 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 4: most ancient Catholic teachings we considered to be non Christian. 144 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 4: These are the spiritual grand children of the Apostles, and 145 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 4: we totally and completely ignored them because they had the 146 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 4: word saint in front of their name. This is a 147 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 4: I think a bizarre experience that probably tens of millions 148 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 4: of people in America can relate to. But when we 149 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 4: go back and look at these traditions, we see that 150 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 4: the story is that on Holy Saturday, while Jesus was dead, 151 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 4: he visited the underworld in Greek Hades in Hebrew schol 152 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 4: and that is where the righteous and the unrighteous were 153 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 4: together in the underworld, and he pillaged and plundered this 154 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 4: level of hell, meaning he preached the Gospel, which is 155 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 4: in Firs Peter. By the way, he preached the Gospel, 156 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 4: declared his victory over Satan, over evil, over death itself, 157 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,599 Speaker 4: and he brought the righteous with him now, and that 158 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 4: of course is what the plundering is. It's a removal 159 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 4: of the righteous souls during this judgment period, and the 160 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 4: story goes. If we look at the oldest sources of 161 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 4: this story, the first two souls he liberated were Adam 162 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 4: and Eve. 163 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: That's right, by the way, you'll find that motif particularly 164 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: common in the Eastern Church. So people know, my wife, 165 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 1: Tanya Tay is Orthodox, and funny enough, Orthodox Easter and 166 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: Western Easter are actually on the same time frame for once. 167 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: It actually lines up this year, so I think it's 168 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: incredible where you know where I always joked that with 169 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: in our marriage, we're mending the schism. And this year, 170 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 1: of course, the Easter and Pasca have aligned, and I 171 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: think this is absolutely perfect and well I've also called, 172 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: by the way, on all the Ortho Bros to join in. 173 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 1: We're doing a three day fast. So I'm on like 174 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: day two of the three day fast of many two hours, 175 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: just when as Jesus was in the tomb for three days, 176 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 1: we are fasting for three days from Holy Thursday until 177 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 1: of course our Easter Easter meal. But you know, it 178 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: really is something, and people go, I'll go to Ephesians 179 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: for people who are saying, what is this? I didn't 180 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: hear about this. Oh, and by the way, just to 181 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: you know, when you go to the Orthodox churches, you'll 182 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: see the icons of Christ breaking the gates of Hell 183 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: and then bringing Adam and Eve out of their tombs, 184 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: and then you know, sometimes you'll also see a procession 185 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: up into Heaven. You see this in a lot of 186 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: Byzantine artwork. You'll see it in Eastern churches and anyone. 187 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: Do you walk into any Orthodox church, you'll probably find 188 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: one anywhere in the United States or certainly in the cathedrals, 189 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: and so the you know, to a west, the Western 190 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: Christian audience, it's like, wait, what is that one? Don't 191 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 1: I don't recognize that one. We'll hear it is in 192 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 1: Ephesians Thesians chapter four, Versus eight to ten. When he 193 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:55,719 Speaker 1: ascended on high he led a host of captives. He 194 00:12:55,960 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 1: who is descended is the one who also ascended far 195 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: above all the heavens Matthew twelve forty. For just as 196 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 1: Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly 197 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: of the great fish, so will the Son of Man 198 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 1: be three days and three nights in the heart of earth. 199 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: And there's quotations from Saint Augustine. He descended into hell, 200 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 1: broke the gates of darkness, brought forth the souls of 201 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: the righteous who were held in the bonds of death. 202 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: Saint Ignatius, how shall we be able to live apart 203 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: from him? Seeing that the prophets, being his disciples and 204 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 1: the spirit were expecting him as their teacher. And for 205 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: this he whom they rightly awaited when he came, raised 206 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 1: them from the dead. So there's this. It also kind 207 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: of serves illogical. I think it serves a logical work 208 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,599 Speaker 1: as well, because what to make of all of the 209 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: righteous are Moses, Elijah, the prophets Isaiah? Were they in 210 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 1: hell because they hadn't gone to heaven yet? Where were 211 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: Adam and Eve this whole time? Well, Saint Thomas Quinas 212 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 1: tells us that this area of Siol or Hades was 213 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: referred to as limbo. So we're breaking down the truth 214 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: of Christ's descent into Hell, the war for Heaven, the 215 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: King versus the damned. This Easter Special Human Events Daily, 216 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: Jack Pasovic, Joshua Leisac will be right back. 217 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 3: Today. 218 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 4: You know that you talk about influences, These are influences 219 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 4: and their friends of mine. 220 00:14:52,640 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: Jack, break down, all right, Jack, bes we are back. 221 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:06,359 Speaker 1: This is Human Events Daily are Easter Special. We're discussing 222 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: all things Easter, specifically, by the way, for Holy Week 223 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: Holy Saturday, which is a day that, look, everyone remembers 224 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: Good Friday, everyone remembers Easter Sunday. But somewhere along the way, 225 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: it seems as though we've lost our connection to Holy 226 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: Saturday and the importance that this plays in the passion 227 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: of the Christ, because people think that the passion of 228 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: the Christ ends with Christ's death. Not so there was 229 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: actually a mission, a mission, believe it or not, to 230 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: the gates of Hades itself where Christ descended low to 231 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: bring forward the souls that were left in Limbo, and 232 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: also for what's called the harrowing of Hell, where he 233 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: tormented the devil, tormented the demons. And we're speaking with 234 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: author Joshua Leisac Joshua. There's a line in a Quinas 235 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: where he is in the Summitite Lokica where he's discussing 236 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: this eight hundred years ago, and he says that this 237 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: would have been a cosmic event because Christ's light was 238 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: able to the light of Christ's soul itself, the King's 239 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: presence actually coming down into Hades, into the land of 240 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: the dead, the underworld would have illuminated every single dark 241 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: corner all the way into the lowest depth of Hell itself. 242 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: Because the demons, Satan himself Lucifer would of course all 243 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: be required to obey direct commands from the king. He is, 244 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: of course the king of the demons as well. Despite 245 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: their constant attempts to disobey and wage war on the throne, 246 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: they simply they simply were required to. So for me, 247 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: Holy Saturday, I think one of its most important keys 248 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: here is that when we have Christ at our back, 249 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: that he actually does have power over the demons and 250 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: over even death itself. And I feel like a lot 251 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: of that gets lost when we don't talk about Holy Saturday. 252 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 4: Yes, that's right, and it is a continual inversion of 253 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 4: what we like to think of in terms of a hierarchy. 254 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 4: And this is one of the most profound aspects of 255 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 4: the story of Jesus Christ as the King of kings, 256 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 4: is that when we think of a king in a 257 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 4: traditional sense, it's the top dog, it's the chief, it's 258 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 4: the leader, it's the boss of all the bosses. It's 259 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 4: the person who thumbs up or thumbs down like a 260 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 4: Roman emperor, can decide the fate and can take great 261 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 4: pleasure from immense suffering. This is sort of traditional king, 262 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 4: sort of a character, a humility free zone. But when 263 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 4: we look at Jesus Christ, we have his willing execution 264 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 4: like a common criminal, like a citizen. We have the 265 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 4: crown of thorns. 266 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 3: We have the. 267 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 4: Inversion of what pillaging means to take and to steal. 268 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 4: It is rather a restoration or it's a returning. So 269 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 4: many of the events that happened during Holy Week and 270 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 4: then leading up to the crucifixion and the resurrection, so 271 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 4: on and so forth. Is Jesus doing the opposite of 272 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 4: what a king is supposed to do. It is a 273 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 4: king being instead of the chief. It is Jesus Christ, 274 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 4: the King of kings, being the chief servant to his 275 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 4: followers and to his apostles. And this is why I 276 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 4: believe the image of the crucifix in the Catholic tradition 277 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 4: and the icons of the Eastern Orthodox tradition are so essential. 278 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 4: And I grieve for all of the Protestants and all 279 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 4: Evangelicals across this country and across the world, who, in 280 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 4: their worship and in their daily meditations and practices, simply 281 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 4: have the image of let's say, a plane and generic 282 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 4: cross symbol. Verse is that which is the crucifix, which 283 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 4: is the image of the King of kings, willingly humbling 284 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 4: himself to the most radical extent that the highest could 285 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 4: possibly do, which is becoming the lowest, and then going 286 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 4: even lower than death into the underworld itself. As this 287 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 4: is this King of these, king of the damned, in 288 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 4: a way, and bringing those souls with him, pillaging out 289 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 4: of that place. Those who are righteous, those who lived 290 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 4: a righteous life, and this, let's say underworld theology answer 291 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 4: so many questions, encloses so many loops that children have, 292 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 4: like well, what about righteous people who died before you know, 293 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 4: like Jesus came? 294 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 3: What about that? 295 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: Exactly when I was a kid, I was, I was, 296 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: I was talking about this with producer Fiz. You're leading 297 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: up to this. He said, that's a question that I 298 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: thought about when I was a kid. It's a question 299 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: that I personally thought about. What happened to them? Where 300 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 1: were they? Were they just in some cosmic you know, 301 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: waiting room and kind of Yeah. Actually, so these are questions, 302 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: by the way, that go back to the earliest days 303 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 1: of the Church. And Aquinas was extrapolating on this eight 304 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: hundred years, eight centuries ago. He wrote this up. But 305 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 1: because we've been so disconnected from Christian history, it's something 306 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: that even even good teachers today, you know, good Sunday 307 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: school teachers, they're not bringing this up. But this belief 308 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,959 Speaker 1: was understood and widespread in the early Church. And that's 309 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: why I think it's so important do what we can 310 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 1: to bring back the early Church history. On this Holy Week, 311 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: we write back human events daily. Jack PHISOBC and author 312 00:20:43,840 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: Joshua Isaac. Hey, Jack, Where's Jack? 313 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 3: Where's Jack? Whererising Jack? 314 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 5: I want to see you. 315 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 3: Great job, Jack, Thank you, what the job you do? 316 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:20,959 Speaker 5: You know, we have an incredible thing. 317 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 3: We're always talking about. 318 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: The fake news and demand, but we have guys and 319 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: these are the guys for forgetting Bush. 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We are talking about this 355 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: war for heaven, this idea that we are locked in, 356 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 1: and as C. S. Lewis talks about the spiritual war 357 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: and the screw tape letters, it's demons, temptations, sin, and 358 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: we see so much of it lately when we see 359 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: rank criminality defended at the highest levels, CNN running puff 360 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: pieces on Luigi Maggioni, an accused assassin on video Carmelo Anthony, 361 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: and the response to that, the stabbing of a young 362 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: boy at a track meet. Illegal aliens and criminals. MS 363 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: thirteen members are suddenly treated as if they're you know, 364 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: they're kissed by an angel, and we're supposed to go 365 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 1: and help them, as opposed to the victims of these 366 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: gangs who don't get any mention whatsoever. So I wanted 367 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: to bring Joshua Isaac back because Joshua we mentioned before, 368 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: when we wrote the book on Humans and we did 369 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: our exhaustive examination of communism, we really found that when 370 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: communists take power, they tend to target one group above 371 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: all others, and one group first. Can you tell us 372 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: who that group is and maybe your analysis on why, Yes, Jack, 373 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: and that. 374 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 4: Group that the unhumans always target first and foremost is 375 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 4: Christians in Spain, China, Russia, everywhere that the left, the 376 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 4: far left particularly takes power or infiltrates and then takes over. 377 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 4: That's who they target first. And one of the reasons 378 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 4: that we believe why, of course, is because of the 379 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 4: anti Christian influence. The what we've discussed with Charlie Kirk, 380 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 4: Tucker Carlos and others is, of course the demonic influence, 381 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 4: the hate of perfect love, and perfect love casts out 382 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 4: what the Bible says casts out fear, and what we 383 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 4: observe from the far left, the radical left is using 384 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 4: fear as a weapon. And so one of the reasons 385 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 4: why literal murderers, domestic violence, committers, those who enjoy causing suffering, 386 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 4: those are the heroes of the far left, and now 387 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 4: it's even the mainstream left. At this point, Luigi Mangioni 388 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 4: has received something like sixty thousand love letters and fan 389 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 4: mail and whatnot. And when we observe why this is 390 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:55,719 Speaker 4: the case, The enemy, as Jesus said, comes only to steal, 391 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 4: kill and destroy, and we use that exact line in 392 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 4: Unhuman to describe the agenda of the radical left. And 393 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 4: what we observe, of course, is that the left as 394 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 4: a group allows their radical far left fringe to set 395 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 4: the agenda. On the right, we cast out the fringe element, 396 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 4: but on the left they take their fringe and grant 397 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 4: them absolute power to engage in whatever they want to 398 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 4: engage in. And so those who terrorize, those who cause fear, 399 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 4: those who keep kids from being able to go safely 400 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 4: out riding their bikes, those who keep moms of young 401 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 4: children from wanting to go out to the local playground 402 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 4: for fear that they're going to find a Camalo Anthony 403 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 4: with a knife lurking about eluis Gi Mangioni, prowling about 404 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 4: for their husband who's a successful business owner, entrepreneur or CEO. 405 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 4: They thrive on fear. It is the exact opposite of love. 406 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 4: Let me point this out on humans that if they 407 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 4: can cause us to feel fear, then what happens afterwards 408 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 4: is they win. And of course we saw this during 409 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 4: the COVID nineteen pandemic. Is the use of fear as 410 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 4: a weapon to squash dissent and to keep hidden minority 411 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 4: reports and this is how free speech, freedom of religion, 412 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 4: freedom of association, they die because well, I don't want 413 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 4: to speak up. Look at what they're doing to people 414 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 4: like me. Don't just keep my mouth shut, keep my 415 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 4: head down. And this of course, as Alexander Sultzanitzen writing 416 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 4: about the Bolshevik Revolution of October nineteen seventeen, he pointed 417 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 4: out that this is how the secret police, going door 418 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 4: to door were able to keep an entire population of 419 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 4: that time the Russian Empire, but Moscow and other places specifically, 420 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 4: how they were able to keep a mass population effectively 421 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 4: in a giant, open air prison with just a few guards. 422 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 4: The radical Bolshevik troublemakers who were going door to door. 423 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 4: Like I said, this secret police is because the people 424 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 4: were afraid that they would hear a knock on the door. 425 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: And of course this is a system that we refer 426 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: to as anarcho tyranny, and it almost sounds like a misnomber. 427 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 1: How could something be anarchism and tyranny at the same time. Well, 428 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: the anarchism is the fear being turned up. That's the 429 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: violent criminals being let out of jail. And people say, Jack, 430 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: why do you and Joshua talk about these you know, 431 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: one hundred year old revolutions and two hundred years old 432 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: you know, French Revolution and stuff even before that. And 433 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: I say, because it's exactly what we see going on 434 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: today every single day when you see, you know, just 435 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: this week, right Democrat politicians flew all the way to 436 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: El Salvador to demand the release of an MS thirteen 437 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: international narco terror gang member, and yet will not spend 438 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: one minute discussing the actual victims of that gang. And 439 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: it's it's very clear they flip this over. The anarchy 440 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: is the point, The fear is the point. They will 441 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: be let out into the populace. Why to keep you docile, 442 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: And they will turn around, by the way and say, 443 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: if you have a problem with that, you're a racist, 444 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: or you're a bigot, or you're hateful. Meanwhile, they're able 445 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: to use that to do what to install their tyranny. 446 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: And we saw this of course with COVID. Remember if 447 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: you went outside your house, oh you were, You're gonna 448 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: kill grandma, You're gonna kill everyone at the school. You're 449 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: gonna kill nurses, you're gonna kill doctors. If you if 450 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: you go out a house or if that that mask 451 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: comes comes down below your nose while you're eating on 452 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: an airplane. Oh, you're gonna kill everyone on this plane 453 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: if you do that. We all remember what it was 454 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: like it was done. If they use fear to install tyranny. 455 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: One other piece, by the way, that I would just 456 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: add to your fantastic description there was that they actually 457 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: turn the populace against one another. Why because they offer 458 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: you little bits of power, They offer you little bits 459 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: of tyranny that you can use yourself. Well, let us know, 460 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: let us know if you hear anything, let us know 461 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: what's going on around the village. Let us know who's 462 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: talking out of turn, who's saying things that shouldn't be done. 463 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: And we all remember this during COVID, it's a perfect example. 464 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: Let us know who's not wearing their mask, let us 465 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: know who's not being socially distant. And you saw how 466 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: it activated member in our own society, America. We're so 467 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: advanced and we're so progressive, and we're so developed, and 468 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: we all did it too. Why Because human nature is immutable, 469 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: and that is what you learn from reading the Bible. 470 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: It's certainly what I always reflected on leading the Bible. 471 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: In addition to the theology. I said, man, the same 472 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: stuff that people were dealing with back then is the 473 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: exact same way that people are now two thousand years later, 474 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: and has not changed one iota. Human nature doesn't change. Actually, Josha, 475 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: you have a great tweet about human nature. 476 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 4: Do you not, Yes, I do. One of them, of course, 477 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 4: is bad reviews from bad people are good reviews. And this, 478 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 4: of course is based on the scripture. My paraphrase of 479 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 4: it is a woe to you if all men speak 480 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 4: well of you, and so if if the secret police 481 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 4: are gossiping and saying awful things about you, those are 482 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 4: in fact good reviews. That is, that is what you 483 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 4: ought to strive for and aim for. And this, of 484 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 4: course is why we are proud, for example, that Unhumans 485 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 4: has been totally, incompletely condemned by the literal Communist Party USA. 486 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: And well, yeah, and the tree of Years I was 487 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: thinking of as well, was when you said that this 488 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: is sort of the difference between conservatives and liberals, where 489 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: conservatives will say, wow, human nature tends towards you know, 490 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: a very very hobsyan outlook. And I can't I'm trying 491 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: to paraphrase it, but you know, human nature leads people 492 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: to sin. We should do something about this, and liberals 493 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: say people shouldn't sin. There shouldn't be sin. It was like, no, 494 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: we agree, but you know, we you know we we 495 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: know that this will happen, so we should probably set 496 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: up our society in such a way to deal with that. Liberals, 497 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: there shouldn't be sin. It's it's just over and over 498 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: because they believe in this sort of utopian version of 499 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: society and humanity, which is itself, by the way, a 500 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: form of fear. It's a form of fear of acknowledging 501 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: that there is a flaw, there is a and this, 502 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: by the way, if you're a believer, you acknowledge this. 503 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: We are all sinners. We are all the sons of 504 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: Adam and the daughters of Eve. 505 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 3: As C. S. 506 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: Lewis writes, that we are all imbued with that original sin, 507 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: and this is man's fallen nature. And of course the 508 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: overcoming of sin is the entire point of the experiment 509 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: they're in. But of course this is also what the 510 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: demonic play on. 511 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 4: Yes, exactly. And if you talk to any anyone that 512 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 4: I like to refer to as NPR Americans, these are 513 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 4: people who consume the news sources, the official sources, and 514 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 4: believe it's real news. So like they listen to NPR 515 00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 4: and then they read the New York Times and they 516 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 4: inform about what's going on in the world. Well, if 517 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 4: you talk to them, you understand that they don't believe 518 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 4: in good versus evil capital G capital e. They believe 519 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,959 Speaker 4: everybody's basically good. Everyone's just trying really hard. But there 520 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 4: are these mean people who put up fences and create 521 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 4: boundaries and make rules and laws. And they're straight white 522 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 4: Christians and they're mean, and they're racist and probably misogynistic 523 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 4: convicted as well. It's the oppressed ser versus oppressed frame 524 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 4: we write about. And if you actually talk to NPR 525 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 4: Americans about MS thirteen and the brutal torture that they 526 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 4: commit upon others, particularly upon women and children, they will 527 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 4: look at you with glazed eyes. They'll give you the 528 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 4: SSR eyes, as I like to say, and they will say, well, 529 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 4: it's just so sad that the person joined that gang 530 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 4: and felt like they had to do that. They must 531 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 4: be really oppressed by straight white Christians. They must be 532 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 4: really oppressed by the result of globalist, imperialist American policy 533 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 4: under republic looking presidents. It's just not fair. So we 534 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 4: need to let them into our country. We need to 535 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 4: give them citizenship, voting rights, and healthcare, car and a 536 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 4: house to make it fair and fairness. 537 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: Guess what, There's only one place where fairness exists, and 538 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 1: that's at the gate of Heaven itself. We'll be right back, 539 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: Jack Pasovic and Joshua Leisak, the author discussing the War 540 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 1: for Heaven on Human Events Daily Are Easter Special, Real 541 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: America's Voice and Salem Radio. So we're going to call 542 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: this the Jack Pisobic Appreciation Hour. I can say confidently 543 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: I believe I think Josh Shapiro would be the vice 544 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: presidential nomine if it wasn't for Jack Pisobic. And that 545 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: is I'm because So I went to this magic show 546 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 1: with Tanya Tay a couple of weeks ago, and a 547 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: really interesting thing happened. So the magician was able to 548 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: point at people in the audience and all of a sudden, 549 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: unbeknownst to them, was able to recite for them specific 550 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: information about where they lived, about their family, in some cases, 551 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 1: about their finances, where they had their money, what bank 552 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 1: they used, their email address, in other cases, their passwords, 553 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: even their social Security numbers. Now, of course he did 554 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: this in the context of a trick. It was in 555 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: the context of, you know, a magic trick. It was 556 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: part of the show. It wasn't used for nefarious purposes. 557 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 1: But how was he able to do that? How was 558 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: he able to compile these dossiers on the audience? You ask, well, 559 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 1: I'll tell you how. It's because your information is out 560 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: there on data broker websites and people search websites. It 561 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 1: is out there. He was able to do this as 562 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: people were coming in, as they were buying tickets. His 563 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: team was able to look that up with ease. And 564 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: this was a huge wake up call to a ton 565 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: of people in the audience. But you know what, when 566 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: he went to look up my name, when he looked 567 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: up when to look up my wife's name, they couldn't 568 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: find a thing. So ask yourself, what defenses are there 569 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 1: against this? Well, as I know and the human Evans 570 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: audience knows, the defense is patriot Protect. Because patriot Protect 571 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: is the tool that will remove you from the system. 572 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: Patriot Protect delets your personal information from Google in over 573 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: two one hundred and forty data broker in people search sites. 574 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: The exact places that all of these sites and scammers 575 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,359 Speaker 1: and magicians apparently pull from. So once removed, the search 576 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,879 Speaker 1: and destroyed protocol keeps monitoring and wiping new exposures automatically. 577 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: So do not sit there and let these scammers and 578 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: con artists use this system to exploit and steal from 579 00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 1: you and your family. Use Patriot Protect and take your back, 580 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: take control of your personal information and reduce your exposure. 581 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 1: Use promo code POSO for fifteen percent off all Patriot 582 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: Protect plans. Go to Patriot dash Protect dot com slash 583 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,839 Speaker 1: posto and use promo code poso for fifteen percent off. 584 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: That's Patriot dash Protect dot com slash poso. Joshua Leisik, 585 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: talk to me a little bit about what it means. 586 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: Is Christianity back? 587 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 4: Yes, sin became so cringe. We have this army of 588 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 4: millions of Baron Karen's with gay pride pins on and 589 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 4: one thousand and one bumper stickers on their subarus. And 590 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 4: it's just not cool. And we look at what they do, well, 591 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,399 Speaker 4: they're atheists, are they're agnostic or they like to talk 592 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 4: about being x vangelicals is another thing that's being used, 593 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 4: and it's not cool. What's cool? Is what's beautiful. What's 594 00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 4: cool is traditional. What's cool to the young kings and 595 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 4: queens these days is what is based. That is that 596 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 4: which is lindy, meaning it is timeless. It is offensive 597 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 4: to these Karen characters. The millennials with the SSR eyes 598 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 4: popping out at you from the elon musk is running 599 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 4: a coup protests all over town, and we want the 600 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 4: opposite of that. And as a result, we are seeing. 601 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,439 Speaker 5: There was a statistic that was shared by the Barner 602 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 5: Group when I was younger, and it was so sort 603 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 5: of a wake up call to the American church, and 604 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 5: it was that eighty percent of millennials were leaving their 605 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 5: Christian faith. 606 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 4: Eighty percent. This is about fifteen to almost twenty years 607 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 4: ago that this was a statistic. And what has happened 608 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,280 Speaker 4: now is there are so many more people becoming Christian 609 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 4: who are joining the church, so many more that now 610 00:38:55,160 --> 00:39:00,840 Speaker 4: the numbers are break even. Christian been shrinking, but now 611 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 4: there's so many more people who are coming into the 612 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 4: faith that it's now break even. And of course I 613 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 4: expect to see more and more as gen Z grows up, 614 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 4: and we have gen Alpha, my children's generation coming up, 615 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 4: and when we see the type of Christianities that are 616 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 4: attracting attention. It's the Catholic, it is the Orthodox. When 617 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 4: I go to the mass over at Saint Bridget it 618 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 4: seems like either everybody is a grandmother or a great 619 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 4: grandparent age or they're under thirty, under thirty five. When 620 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 4: we look at the women who are wearing the veils, 621 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,439 Speaker 4: it's women over seventy and women under thirty, women under 622 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,800 Speaker 4: twenty five. It's a sort of skipping the generation of 623 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,360 Speaker 4: millennials who are all caught up in the new atheist 624 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 4: movement that eventually kind of transformed into me an anti 625 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 4: Trump movement, and we look at it that. 626 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:53,800 Speaker 1: In fact, it's the TLM, what we call in the 627 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: Catholic Church the Traditional Latin Mass. And you go to 628 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 1: one and there's so few of them. People are spilling 629 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: out of the pews at standing room only, babies crying 630 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 1: in the back. It's fantastic. Joshua, just out of time. 631 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: Where can people go to follow you? Brother? 632 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 4: I'm on x and YouTube elsewhere, at Joshua Lasak and 633 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 4: at Lysac ghostwriting dot com. 634 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,320 Speaker 1: Go and follow Joshua Isaac and to Joshua and everybody 635 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 1: else out there Happy Easter. He is risen Ali Lujah, 636 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 1: he is risen, Ladies and gentlemen, As always you have 637 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:32,879 Speaker 1: my permission, LEAs short