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Speaker 1: What's Good command Is Family.

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Speaker 2: Brian Coble Junior here and this is the Next Man

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Speaker 2: Up Podcasts. We talk to your favorite commanders and players,

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Speaker 2: not so much about x's and o's, more.

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Speaker 1: About the man behind the help mat.

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Speaker 2: And our next man up is no other than our

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Speaker 2: defensive end, our rookie k j Henry kJ talks about.

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Speaker 1: Being from North Carolina, having.

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Speaker 2: His family support him all the way from high school

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Speaker 2: to college to the pros, saving his father's life, and

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Speaker 2: also being the best hooper the Commanders have. All that

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Speaker 2: and more. Starts right now. What's Good Commanders Family? I'm

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Speaker 2: Brian Coble Jr. And this is the Next Man Up Podcast.

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Speaker 2: We talk to your favorite Commanders players, not so much

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Speaker 2: about XS and o's, more about the player behind the helmet.

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Speaker 2: And our next man up is no other than kJ

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Speaker 2: Henry kJ. How you doing today, brother, bless Hey man,

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Speaker 2: I'm blessed too because I'm here with you.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: I know how busy a rookie season can be, and brother,

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Speaker 2: you have been busy. But we're not gonna talk about

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Speaker 2: football just yet. We'll get into that a little bit

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Speaker 2: later because you had yourself a big game as Sunday

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Speaker 2: Man I want to talk about the start, North Carolina,

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Speaker 2: Winston Salem.

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Speaker 1: What is being from there mean to you? Man?

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Speaker 4: It means the world? The three three six, I still

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Speaker 4: wear them to you know, to this day. My hometown,

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Speaker 4: my city. Man, I think Chris Paul did a did

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Speaker 4: a great job of setting the footstones. You know, what

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Speaker 4: it means to come from there, from Winston Salem. And

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Speaker 4: we you know, guys who come out the city, you know,

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Speaker 4: just try and follow his footsteps. But just to be

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Speaker 4: from the tried area and really you know, put on

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Speaker 4: you know for my people. Man, it's it's always a blessing.

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Speaker 1: You said Chris Paul.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, set what it means to be from there in

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Speaker 2: your own words?

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Speaker 1: What does it mean to be for them?

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Speaker 4: Just to be resilient? Uh, you know, I think we're

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Speaker 4: not a big city or anything like that. You know,

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Speaker 4: regular people just trying to you know, get get theirs right.

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Speaker 4: And so that's that's really what I've been trying to

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Speaker 4: do as I've come up, you know, through this whole process,

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Speaker 4: through through this sport, is just try and get mine

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Speaker 4: you know the best way I know how and do

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Speaker 4: it in a way that obviously, more than anything, makes

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Speaker 4: my family proude as well. So just like I said,

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Speaker 4: to be from Winston Salem is it's special to me.

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Speaker 1: So how did you find football?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 2: What about Winston Saving or your childhood and your upbringing

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Speaker 2: made you find the game of football?

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Speaker 4: Man? Football found me. I wasn't looking for football, if

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Speaker 4: I'm being completely honest. Baseball was the first love. Basketball

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Speaker 4: was my longest love, love hooping, man, and tried to

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Speaker 4: tried to really orchestrate my high school career to getting

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Speaker 4: you know, college hoops, I mean college offers. But you know,

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Speaker 3: And that's what I was in high school. I was

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Speaker 4: So basketball found me, you know, just the aggressiveness but

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Speaker 4: those things just you know, catered well on my talents.

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Speaker 4: So my dad, being a football coach that he is,

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Speaker 4: I'll never forget it. My sophomore year, I had an

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Speaker 4: After the game, my dad was like, bro, you about

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Speaker 4: to get some offers.

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Speaker 4: I was like, well, that's that's interesting because I never,

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Speaker 2: I'm glad it found you too, because now we got

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Speaker 4: You know, I used to pitch, so my shoulder can't

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Speaker 4: This could probably not till you know, a couple of

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Speaker 4: in that moment is when I knew, like, okay, I

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Speaker 4: mean when I got to Clemson, it was just kind

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Speaker 1: And you mentioned Clemson, Yeah, stay pretty close to home.

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Speaker 2: Was it important for you to stay close to home

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Speaker 4: You know, early in the process, it wasn't on the

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Speaker 2: And that support is so important because, as you mentioned,

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Speaker 2: did you, guys, a conversation change once you became a

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Speaker 1: Out of those conversations, chaps, I.

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Speaker 4: Just honestly, it wasn't even a button heads. I just

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Speaker 4: my life, so really just leaned in, you know, to

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Speaker 4: and that just you know, helped me get better and

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Speaker 1: That's so awesome to hear.

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Speaker 2: I told you before we started, like how much it

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Speaker 1: Mom's get love all the time, my MoMA's boy.

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Speaker 2: I much shout out my mom all the time, but

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Speaker 2: dads are also very very crucial. And you do, man,

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Speaker 2: you're really doing. Your dad has a really good son.

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Speaker 2: Because you guys had a moment through college. You know,

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Speaker 2: you know, when you get to college there's you know, school,

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Speaker 2: that we think about college, right, we don't think about

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Speaker 2: the trials and tribulations that come while you're becoming a man.

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Speaker 2: While you're going through these things and your father during

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Speaker 2: your college tenure, you're the kidney transplant. Talk to us

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Speaker 2: about that, what all went into that, because that's a

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Speaker 2: very very in depth story, and I'd rather you tell

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Speaker 2: us about that and what that was kind of like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nah, I appreciate it. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So you know, this past few years has been all

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Speaker 4: about that my dad need a kidney transplant. And as

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Speaker 4: you spoke to how great he is, he kind of

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Speaker 4: found out, you know, right before my last season at

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Speaker 4: want it to be a distraction to me, and so

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Speaker 4: he told me a little bit after the season. I

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Speaker 4: told him, don't ever do that again. I don't care

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Speaker 4: about it distraction. You tell me so, But nah, I

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Speaker 4: just you know, our belief and our trust in God

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Speaker 4: to be completely honest with you, I just he was calm,

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Speaker 2: Who was that man? To see your fop so elated

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Speaker 2: And then you get to Virginia, right because a practice

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Speaker 2: So you're out here, man, you're going through preseason, you're

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Speaker 2: you not had that moment?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: No, I don't. I still don't think I've had it.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 4: I think that was the moment where I was like, wow,

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Speaker 4: he's like living his dream. He didn't get to plan

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Speaker 4: the league, but like I said, he's been Washington fan

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Speaker 4: all his life. So just seeing Doug Williams walking around

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Speaker 4: fail like all these legends that were around in the preseason.

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Speaker 4: We had a dinner with them, you know, the rookies did,

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Speaker 4: and they invited my dad to the dinner. Like that

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Speaker 4: was a dream country for him. I know, it was

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Speaker 4: so just to be in this facility, to be around here,

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Speaker 4: all the coaches be you know, acting like he got

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Speaker 4: full access.

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Speaker 3: He done met and the president.

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Speaker 4: So he's fancy bro y'all. I'm just saying, y'all getting dangerous. Y'all.

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Speaker 4: Can't give too much access now. It's gonna be freaking

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Speaker 4: using the locker room.

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Speaker 3: He's all. He needs a one day contractor over. So

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Speaker 3: he had a great time.

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Speaker 4: But nah, I just like you know, all my other

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Speaker 4: long parts of my journey to Clemson everything, I probably

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Speaker 4: won't be able to just sit back and really think

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Speaker 4: I made it or I done something till it's over,

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Speaker 4: to be completely honest with you. So I'm just kind

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Speaker 4: of enjoying the route right now.

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Speaker 2: That is so interesting, man, because you're coming off of

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Speaker 2: a career game right like it was a huge game.

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Speaker 2: You came and stepped up this defensive line doesn't look

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Speaker 2: how it looked when the season started. You were patient,

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Speaker 2: waited for your chance, and then you balled out. So

468
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Speaker 2: that right there, doing that, getting those sex, getting those TFLs.

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Speaker 2: That didn't make you feel like dang, I'm here, you're

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Speaker 2: still not having felt it yet.

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Speaker 4: It made me feel like, dang, I just made a

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Speaker 4: good play. I mean, especially after a week like this.

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Speaker 4: We on to the next one. It's it's a quick

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Speaker 4: you know, we got a game Thursday, so nah, I

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Speaker 4: just got the congratulations from the fam. Thank you, thank you,

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Speaker 4: thank you. Yeah, on to the next Yeah, and as

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Speaker 4: you mentioned, we got a quick game coming up. We

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Speaker 4: got Thanksgiving coming up. You get to plan on Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 4: which is really really cool. We're passed halfway through the season.

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Speaker 4: We're in week twelve. Yeah, your first year, Man, has

481
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Speaker 4: it been everything you expected.

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Speaker 1: It to be.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, what I've learned is I don't really have expectations.

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Speaker 4: I don't have it because when I did, I was

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Speaker 4: there was either way higher way lower. Like I just

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Speaker 4: I was always off right. And you know, what God

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Speaker 4: has had planned for me is just been so different

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Speaker 4: than what I've ever had planned for myself. Like I said, I,

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Speaker 4: if it's up to me, I'd be playing overseason basketball

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Speaker 4: probably right now. With the talent I have. God, you know,

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Speaker 4: I was able to shift my love and passion, you know,

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Speaker 4: for this game and I'm here today. So yeah, I

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Speaker 4: really don't even put expectations on my journey.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: I just really focus on being intentional every single day

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Speaker 4: and making sure that I have no regrets on the

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Speaker 4: effort that I give, and up to this point has

498
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Speaker 4: been a pretty good formula. So I'm probably gonna stick

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Speaker 4: with it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I love when you guys talk about playing basketball because

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Speaker 2: we had Jamison Crowder, he like beat Kyrie for the

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Speaker 2: zero Dude.

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Speaker 1: We had kwalm Martin.

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Speaker 2: He swear he the best, and all of them have

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Speaker 2: said they are the best. Hooper that where's the Commanders, Jersey?

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Speaker 2: Are you the best?

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Speaker 3: It is me? It really is me, So let's talk

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Speaker 3: about it.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean I had college offers, played for teams CP three,

513
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Speaker 4: like that was my AU team. Really, I'm going to

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Speaker 4: see one of my old teammates, Harry Johns when the

515
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Speaker 4: Nets come play. I have multiple teammates that play in

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Speaker 4: the league right now. Wind up more with the Timberwolves,

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Speaker 4: Kobe White with the Bulls. So I've just played with

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Speaker 4: a higher caliber basketball player than anybody on this football team.

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Speaker 4: And I know, like I scored a thousand points in

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Speaker 4: high school. Apparently that was surprise John and all the

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Speaker 4: d line. I'm like, I could have kept going and

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Speaker 4: he played my senior year. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, day, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: like it was.

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Speaker 3: I'm the best on the team.

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Speaker 2: Do y'all have those conversations though, Like, have y'all sat

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Speaker 2: and like talked about Yo, I was a hooper back

527
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Speaker 2: in the day.

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Speaker 3: I'm from North Carolina. Who state? Like, first off, I'm

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Speaker 3: not from my state.

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Speaker 4: I'm not trying to hear none OF's like, so you

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Speaker 4: got to give me worked over you already see.

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Speaker 3: Like I love it.

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Speaker 1: We got to get y'all hooping one of these days.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing. Here's the difference.

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Speaker 4: Like they they talk about hooping, but they're like, I

536
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Speaker 4: don't want to tweet this and like we can hoop today.

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Speaker 4: I don't care in the middle of the season. Let's

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Speaker 4: go just y and C where is it at?

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Speaker 1: I'm ready, man, I love the competitive energy.

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Speaker 2: Just promised me if y'all end up hooping y'all let

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Speaker 2: me be there and let me do man. I gotta

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Speaker 2: watch y'all do y'all thy now back to football maybe

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Speaker 2: before I let you go, because man, I really appreciate

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Speaker 2: your time. Should io camera right here for any fans

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Speaker 2: that aren't familiar with who kJ Henry is, looking at

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Speaker 2: IO camera right there and tell them who K is?

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Speaker 3: I say.

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Speaker 4: kJ Henry is first and foremost a man of faith,

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Speaker 4: you know, who's allowed God to just carry his footsteps

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Speaker 4: through through his journey of life and doing so, he

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Speaker 4: tries to, you know, make his family proud and just

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Speaker 4: make sure that he does, you know, everything to the

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Speaker 4: best of his ability and everything that he does. And

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Speaker 4: also he's gonna have fun while he's doing it.

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Speaker 1: Kjamin, I have no doubt you're making your parents proud. Man.

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Speaker 1: I have no doubt you're making the Commander's family proud. Man.

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Speaker 2: It's been so much fun seeing you develop. It's fun

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Speaker 2: seeing you get off Sunday.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 1: We hope we see more for that for Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: Commander's Family, This is next man of I'm Brian cople

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Speaker 2: Junior here with kJ Henry Man his family.

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Speaker 1: Until next time, Love Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Commanders Family where We have a lot more for you

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Speaker 2: on the Commander's Podcast Network. We have the Command Center

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Speaker 2: Podcast with Logan Paulson, Fresh New and Santana Mass. It's

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Speaker 2: talking Commander's football. We have the Players Club with legends

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Speaker 2: London Fletcher and Santana Mass and they sit with your

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Speaker 2: favorite Commander's player.

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Speaker 1: It's like talking football in a way that only those

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Speaker 1: who played the game can't.

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Speaker 2: And we have to Get Loud podcast of Mike Jenkins

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Speaker 2: and Fred Smooth doing what they do best, getting Loud.

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Speaker 2: That show has a ton of fun. You don't want

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Speaker 2: to miss it. And then of course we have the

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Speaker 2: Next Man Up podcasts. We will be back next Tuesday

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Speaker 2: with another one of your favorite Commander's players. All that

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