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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to About Your Happy Hour. I'm

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Speaker 1: Joe and I'm Serena, and we are here to recap

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Speaker 1: episode five.

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Speaker 2: I'm nervous to pronounce the name of the city that

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Speaker 2: they were in Spain.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's a city in Spain.

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Speaker 2: Andalusia, Spain is what we'll go with. Yeah, but before

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Speaker 2: we get to Spain in the other episode, before we

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Speaker 2: get to southern Spain. In this episode, we begin the

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Speaker 2: episode kicking off where we left off in Malta at

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Speaker 2: the Concho party before the roast ceremony, because there's a

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Speaker 2: whole bunch of drama unfolding.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about it last episode, but all the

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Speaker 1: the Leyah is now inserted herself in the center of

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Speaker 1: the drama with Maria, and Maria wants to kind of

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Speaker 1: over it. But we get to the roast ceremony.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we left the last episode on Maria saying,

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Speaker 2: you know, she wants to leave, she's over it. But

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Speaker 2: starting this episode, you know, she's talked to Lexi, she's

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Speaker 2: talked to Medina, and I think she's kind of calmed

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Speaker 2: down and be like been like, no, I'm not leaving.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think she was really gonna leave. I think

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Speaker 2: she was just kind of pushed to a breaking point

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Speaker 2: when it came to the drama. I can't imagine the

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Speaker 2: girls in the house are like, oh my god, can

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Speaker 2: everyone just let this go? Like Sydney's gone, Leah, can

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Speaker 2: you please just let this go?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like I said, we talked about it, but

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Speaker 1: it's just ridiculous, Like it's so ridiculous. This was like,

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Speaker 1: this is so fucking stupid, Like why why would you

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Speaker 1: do this? Like, just let it go, Like you can

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Speaker 1: be upset that your friend that you met five days

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Speaker 1: ago is going home, like fine, but like the lead

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Speaker 1: likes her, like he likes her, he wants her to stay.

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Speaker 1: That's his decision, not yours, not Maria's, not the rest

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Speaker 1: of the girls in the house, like, respect his decision.

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Speaker 1: And if you don't send yourself home right period, I

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Speaker 1: mean Jesus, So, then who ends up going home? Who

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Speaker 1: doesn't get a rose?

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Speaker 2: The two people that gets at home are Edwina and

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Speaker 2: Alis said like them both too, like them both. Dwena

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Speaker 2: actually got like a little one on one extra time

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Speaker 2: at the beginning of the seasons, but I guess the

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Speaker 2: relationship did not unfold and then Alison, our twin sister

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Speaker 2: or not twin, just sister, is also gone. We're really

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Speaker 2: dwindling down. Eh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it always happens. It happens quicker than you know it.

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Speaker 2: We have fourteen fifteen now fourteen girls left? I think, no, yeah,

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Speaker 2: twelve twelve girls left. It happened so.

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Speaker 1: Fast, does it does?

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Speaker 2: All right? Well, then they take off, fly all the

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Speaker 2: way to Spain and they start off with a one

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Speaker 2: on one date. I feel like it always sucks. I

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Speaker 2: actually don't think I ever had this happen. I think

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Speaker 2: every date on our season was given through a date card,

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Speaker 2: but when they're traveling once in a while to have

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Speaker 2: the lead like come meet all the girls and be like,

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Speaker 2: guess what, I'm taking one ago on a date. And

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Speaker 2: I feel like that sucks for the other girls.

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Speaker 1: And I think you always want to want you always

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Speaker 1: want a one on one date, of course, but to

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Speaker 1: get the first one on one date in Spain when

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Speaker 1: you first get there, that's a good one to get.

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Speaker 2: Oh definitely, this was I was.

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Speaker 1: Like, this is the if you want? This is the

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Speaker 1: first one. You're like, this is this is the one

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Speaker 1: I want?

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Speaker 2: Why you didn't want it? In Malta.

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Speaker 1: No, I would. I feel like Spain's more romantic. It's

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Speaker 1: given like Vicky Christina Barcelona vibe. It's that we you

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Speaker 1: could kind of like, yeah, we started out. Our love

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Speaker 1: I really when I felt the first connection was when

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Speaker 1: we were in Spain listening to the Spanish guitar, drinking

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Speaker 1: Spanish wine. That's yeah, and I feel like yeah. And

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Speaker 1: then like Joey pulls up in the vest but and

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Speaker 1: you're like, this is the date I want to be on.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it sounds like it is the date.

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Speaker 2: Give it to who wants this date this week? Rachel

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Speaker 2: or Joe, And he gives it to kelsey A your girl.

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Speaker 1: Of course he gives it the Kelsey because he's thinking

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Speaker 1: the way I'm thinking. Or in Spain it's romantic and

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Speaker 1: who do I feel the biggest romantic connection with ke

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Speaker 1: kelsey A.

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Speaker 2: I felt bad for Kelsey T because they have the

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Speaker 1: Rachel said that. I think it was Rachel's like, oh

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Speaker 2: That sucks. So then you're waiting for the last initial

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Speaker 2: and you know, okay, it's between me and her, but no,

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Speaker 2: alas it was not. She had a moment, she stepped away,

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Speaker 2: She had a few tears. It's it only gets harder,

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Speaker 2: you know, every week just gets harder. I feel like

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Speaker 2: at this point, especially like feelings are really picking up speed.

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Speaker 2: But Joey is obsessed with kelsey A. I feel like

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Speaker 2: I've not seen him this into someone yet, not even

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Speaker 2: close truly. Yeah, Like I was shocked. I was like,

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Speaker 2: not expected. I knew they were into each other, Like

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Speaker 2: so much more of their time together, Like he was

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Speaker 2: They were always like kissing and flirting, and like he

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Speaker 2: literally just seemed so giddy.

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Speaker 1: Spanish vibes.

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Speaker 2: It's the Spanish vibes.

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Speaker 1: Eddie seems really comfortable.

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Speaker 2: Super comfortable. Yeah, Which it's you know that mid season

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Speaker 2: I feel like he's like I think he might be

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Speaker 2: it's like kind of matched up, but she almost seems

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think that's kind of I think that's a.

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Speaker 2: Given because there's so many other women.

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Speaker 1: There so many other women. There's there's a part of

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Speaker 1: you that like unless you're completely like you're overly confident

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Speaker 1: it's almost impossible to talk that away, Like there's a

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Speaker 1: part of you that always has to be like okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like he's into me, but like there's so many

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Speaker 2: other women. Yeah, like he's into me, but what is

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Speaker 2: he saying to everyone else?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: But I think he really reassured her. I think they're

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Speaker 2: super freaking cute together. Like when they were sitting in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they really think. I think he's really

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Speaker 1: don't think I Like, right now watching it, I'm like

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Speaker 2: The end, like she's definitely fine.

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Speaker 1: Before I would be really shocked. And then we go

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Speaker 1: to the night portion.

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Speaker 2: The night portion. Okay, I feel like there's always one

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Speaker 2: thing every season that makes me cry. You cried one

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Speaker 2: she was saying it just you know, for our listeners

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Speaker 2: that maybe didn't watch the episode, Kelsey opens up to

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Speaker 2: Joey about, you know, her parents were in the military

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Speaker 2: together and her mom passed away ten years ago of

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Speaker 2: breast cancer. She was diagnosed, they said she had about

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Speaker 2: And just watching her tell it and the way she

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Speaker 2: especially that suddenly and then just her talking about you know,

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Speaker 2: she was young totally. It's yeah, because she said it

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Speaker 2: and you know, seeing butterflies as a symbol of her mom.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna cry now, you are going to cry now, No,

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Speaker 1: it was, it was, It's okay, it was, I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just it's really really sad, and yeah, like you

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Speaker 1: seems like a lovely person. Yeah, like she's really nice.

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Speaker 2: She seems she just seems so genuine like telling the story,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and every season there's always a handful of people

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Speaker 1: And you feel much more connected to them. And that's

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Speaker 1: Joey just like yeah, like like yeah, it's honestly like

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Speaker 1: watching it, like, I'm like, Joey's falling in love with

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And then at the end of the date she

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Speaker 2: No, she says it in her interview. But yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: just very sweet and romantic. And I'm excited to see

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Now they could always look back and be like,

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Speaker 1: you remember our first date in Spain.

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Speaker 2: There you go, there you go, Joe's dream. Unfortunately we

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Speaker 2: do not have that.

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Speaker 1: No, well we did go to Spain.

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Speaker 2: We did go to Spain. Yeah, we did all the things. Okay,

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Speaker 2: moving on to the group date, they had like a

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Speaker 2: to where they are. Yeah, I guess you know the

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Speaker 2: describe the photo that went with it, and they had

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Speaker 2: photo meant? YadA YadA yadda, and then they said, like,

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Speaker 2: this is what my photo actually is. Yeah, I feel

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Speaker 2: like Maria was poking the bear a little bit, putting

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Speaker 2: her like two on one in her photo.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just a little bit, but like also.

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Speaker 2: Like she was like, that's Sydney, and I was like,

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Speaker 2: but also.

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Speaker 1: At this point, I feel like, like go for it,

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Speaker 2: With it seems like left right and center.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so like you might as well have fun with it.

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Speaker 2: stuf where it's like, hey, you can have five to

438
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Speaker 2: ten minutes with Joey or Joey wants to talk to

439
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 2: me or whatever it is. I'm not gonna say no, no, no,

440
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,679
Speaker 2: I am okay, thank you. I do not wish to

441
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,679
Speaker 2: speak to him tonight. He hasn't talked to Jess. You

442
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 2: should go grab her instead. Yeah, Like there's no way

443
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:46,919
Speaker 2: because at the end of the day, like you already

444
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 2: get so little time, and Maria and him just went

445
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:54,440
Speaker 2: through a big thing. Every minute counts like I would.

446
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,959
Speaker 2: I think Jess is in her own head about her

447
00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 2: relationship with Joey. I think she's kind of been on

448
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 2: this like roller coaster feeling good, feeling not good. We've

449
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 2: seen it like for a few weeks now a bit,

450
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 2: and I think she doesn't like Maria. It seems like

451
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 2: either there's quite a few girls in the tests that

452
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 2: don't like Mariett. It really looked like it was only

453
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 2: Sidney for a while there, but there's definitely a group

454
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 2: of them, and I think if it was someone else,

455
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 2: she might have let it slide. But I think she

456
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 2: doesn't like Maria. I think she's panicking about her relationship.

457
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 2: And I don't really fault Maria for talking to Joey

458
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,199
Speaker 2: at all, to be honest, Like, just because you have

459
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 2: a rose does not mean that you don't have a

460
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Speaker 2: right to speak to the lead until the following week.

461
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 2: It just doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And then yeah, yeah, I know we're on the

463
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: same page, and I don't. I don't. I just I don't.

464
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 2: And again, it's not like she had a one on one,

465
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 2: so it is different like if she even if she

466
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,199
Speaker 2: did have a one on one to win culture, I

467
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 2: faulter even less because it's like she got the same

468
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,239
Speaker 2: amount of time everyone else did on their group date

469
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 2: and Jess was on their group date, and Jess got

470
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 2: extra time because she got that special time with like

471
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 2: the painting thing.

472
00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 1: And then we see Jess confront Maria, which, like Maria

473
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 1: is definitely well equipped to take on a confrontation.

474
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 2: Definitely, Maria is has handled every confrontation very well and

475
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 2: this one is no different. I feel like she's someone

476
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 2: if you're gonna go at her, you're gonna go up

477
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 2: against her, like you better be prepared because she is

478
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 2: not someone that's going to back down.

479
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you see Jess kind of.

480
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 2: Like not she really snapped it Jess though, Yeah, and.

481
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 1: Then you see Jess kind of like that's That's what

482
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, if you're you have if you're going

483
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 1: to go up against Like I.

484
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,239
Speaker 2: Think that's the maddest I've seen Maria. Yeah, like the

485
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 2: sharpest I've seen her with one of the other.

486
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: Girls, and you kind of have to be yeah, like

487
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: you have to be prepared. Then you see Jess caller

488
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 1: a bit as she's walking away, and it's kind of like, all.

489
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's definitely the most Sydney and Maria had

490
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 2: some like really long, like aggressive fight, but like that

491
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 2: was the most heated fight I've seen yet this season,

492
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 2: even though it was super short, Like the two of

493
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 2: them went at each other like hot for two seconds

494
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 2: and then like Jess walked away. Yeah, so that was

495
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 2: interesting to me.

496
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 1: And again it's it's the same like I feel like, yeah,

497
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 1: Leah and Jess, that's like the attitude of like, we

498
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 1: need Maria out of this house. But now, no, you're

499
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: never gonna You're never gonna be there at the end

500
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 1: because you're focusing on the wrong thing.

501
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, we see Lexi say that she thinks that Jess

502
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 2: is a little bit jealous of Maria. Yeah, and like

503
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 2: at the time she's getting with Joey, the reassurance she's

504
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 2: getting with Joey with these roses.

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00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 1: Well, we'll ask we'll ask Lexi that too, because she's

506
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 1: coming on the podcast, so we'll definitely get more into that. Nice.

507
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 2: Nice Okay, Well we oh the season. The episode did

508
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 2: end with the super tease, which we always get mid season,

509
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 2: like the big teaser for what's to come. Yeah, which

510
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,679
Speaker 2: it looks good, it looks juicy. It's funny because the

511
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 2: beginning of the season, I remember we said, like, it

512
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 2: doesn't look like there's that much drama, Like it looks

513
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 2: really romance heavy. There's been like a lot of drama

514
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 2: this season with like not really any end in sight,

515
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 2: because like I feel like as long as Leah, Jess,

516
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 2: and Maria are all still there, things aren't about to

517
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 2: calm down anytime soon.

518
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm curious. I think everyone now is just kind

519
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: of like, what what's gonna happen with Maria? Yeah, truly,

520
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 1: where's this gonna go? Where's this story going? Yeah? I

521
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 1: mean you know, I see, yeah, we'll see, we will see. Okay,

522
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 1: and then we have two people that do not get

523
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: roses and it's autumn. Who's you know, seems so sweet

524
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: and you just just probably didn't have a connection with

525
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 1: the lead. But I could see her being someone that

526
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: they cast for Paradise.

527
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's the first person in my top four predictions

528
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 2: that is now gone. But she seemed really sweet.

529
00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

530
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 2: I think there just wasn't a romantic connect with her

531
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 2: and Joey, but I wouldn't be surprised if she's in Paradise.

532
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 2: And then we also said goodbye to Medina. Yeah, who's

533
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 2: another person I could see in Paradise as well. Yeah,

534
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 2: because she seems like she's ready for commitment and a

535
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 2: relationship and she's really pretty.

536
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel like she Yeah, it was a

537
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,919
Speaker 1: little bit of a rough goal with all this, Like

538
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: she said, she said one thing that she probably regrets

539
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: saying in that and.

540
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 2: That one comment that she made.

541
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: Started like it was the beginning of all this drama.

542
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 2: Truly, and I just think she got the short end

543
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,199
Speaker 2: of the stick because, yeah, her one comment dragged her

544
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 2: into something she didn't want to be involved in. It

545
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 2: seemed like for like weeks. But I also think had

546
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 2: she not said that comment, the drama weveen Sydney and

547
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 2: Maria would have unfolded some other way.

548
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would have made probably made more sense too, hopefully.

549
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

550
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. So that's yeah, that's it.

551
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 2: Now we're down to ten people, dwindle.

552
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: Down, okay, Yeah, make sure you guys stay tuned because

553
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: we do have Lexi coming on later in the week.

554
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,560
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555
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556
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