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Speaker 2: You want to be happy for a day?

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Speaker 1: Edo state? Is that? Woo woof and them and Tye,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the Saliburbo boys and girls. My name

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Speaker 1: is ty Hildenbrandt. That fine gentleman over there, as always

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Speaker 1: my compadre in Chicago, Dan Ruberstein, sir, how are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm terrific.

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Speaker 2: We had a long Memorial Day weekend. I went up

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Speaker 2: and finding a small to medium to large body of water,

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Speaker 2: went on a boat. Shout out my brother in law, Blake,

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Speaker 2: a little boat over there in a little lake.

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Speaker 1: Would you fulfill your boat goals this Memorial Day weekend.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you this. I had a pop.

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Speaker 2: I had a cold can of beer on a boat.

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Speaker 2: I was not driving, so I think that's okay. I

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Speaker 1: As long as you weren't driving the boat, you're good.

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Speaker 2: I was very much not driving. There was a nice breeze,

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Speaker 2: it was warm. We we went quickly. We sped that

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Speaker 1: Of course. I'm watching TV. I'm watching a movie.

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Speaker 2: I think to myself, Oh, is there a sound drop

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking about this schedule preview show we're doing. I'm

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Speaker 2: seeing clear skies, I'm seeing moving along at pace, full

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Speaker 1: Button, You have just made a serious mistake, my friend.

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Speaker 1: I had never heard of lake snakes tie oh and oh.

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Speaker 2: Probably not venomous, Probably probably not venomous. But I thought

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Speaker 2: to myself. We have sandwiches, we have letdowns, we have

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Speaker 1: Are you a snake guy? You and the snake not

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Speaker 2: And then Blake brother in law, Captain Skipper, saw the

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Speaker 1: Dan mentioned, we are starting to do a scheduled previews,

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Speaker 1: Can I have that cake sent just one more time? Maybe?

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Speaker 1: Buffer zone? You need that buffer zone, Dan, Yeah, or

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about USC for a second, because USC is

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Speaker 1: tough game. Doesn't matter if it's home or on the road.

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Speaker 1: But sandwiched in the middle, and I actually found a

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Speaker 1: double decker sandwich that I'm gonna call out a little

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Speaker 1: bit later. We talked about the Big ten, but sandwiched

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Speaker 1: in the middle is a game that doesn't look like

435
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Speaker 1: it should be that big of a deal. But if

436
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Speaker 1: you apply the context of the tough game in front

437
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Speaker 1: of and then the tough game afterwards, that sandwich game.

438
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Speaker 1: That's oftentimes when you see your trap games, yep, it

439
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Speaker 1: just sort of sneak in there. Oh it's playing again.

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Speaker 1: Oh I love it. Double there's your double decker. Within

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Speaker 1: the context again of the PAC twelve, where are these

442
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Speaker 1: sandwich games, because recall a couple of weeks ago, we

443
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Speaker 1: did early betting lines, correct talked about early betting lines.

444
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Speaker 1: Not every game, but it was a bunch of big games. Yep.

445
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Speaker 1: So perhaps if you are ever so inclined, go back

446
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Speaker 1: and listen to that show and then cross reference with

447
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Speaker 1: some of these sandwich games that we're going to talk

448
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Speaker 1: about for the PAC twelve as well as the Big Ten.

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Speaker 1: Where are some of these matchups for you in twenty twelve?

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Speaker 2: So you're looking for a menu, is what you're looking at?

451
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Speaker 2: What the menu of sandwich of sandwiches? Yeah, the sandwich board. Okay,

452
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Speaker 2: So Arizona, excuse me. Arizona has North Dakota State between

453
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Speaker 2: Mississippi State and the start of the PAC twelve conference season. Now,

454
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Speaker 2: North Dakota State is a good program, if not a great,

455
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Speaker 2: if not a terrific program, and it doesn't matter that

456
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Speaker 2: Arizona is down, because even a down Power five team

457
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 2: losing to an FCS team is embarrassing, So that's tricky.

458
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Speaker 2: Oregon State has Stanford after USC and Utah back to back,

459
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Speaker 2: though Stanford has Washington and or both on the road

460
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Speaker 2: back to back before that, so it's kind of like

461
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Speaker 2: a nice double sandwich. So I guess it's your double decker.

462
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Speaker 2: UCLA has a nice sandwich, and I mean that in

463
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Speaker 2: a good way. They've got a bye week between Oregon

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Speaker 2: and Utah, and that's Oregon on the road. SC I

465
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Speaker 2: mentioned has Wazoo before Arizona State and before they go

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Speaker 2: to Utah. Also they have that Friday look ahead spot

467
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Speaker 2: I mentioned. Utah has a road tilt at UCLA as

468
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Speaker 2: mentioned before SC. Also they've got the look ahead Stanford

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Speaker 2: game before they're at Oregon. And Stanford is always happy

470
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Speaker 2: to play spoiler, even at down Stanford, as we've learned,

471
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Speaker 2: always happy to play spoiler. Washington has Stanford, as I mentioned,

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Speaker 2: between Michigan State and at UCLA. That's going to be

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Speaker 2: a kind of a fascinating matchup. Washington on that Michigan

474
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Speaker 2: tour getting blown out last year by Michigan. Maybe better

475
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Speaker 2: again State who knows. Wazoo has Colorado State between Wisconsin

476
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Speaker 2: and Oregon. The beginning of Wazoo's schedule is rough, TI

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Speaker 2: hold on, thank you, it's brutal. So this is so

478
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Speaker 2: they have the Vandals of Idaho, excuse me, Wisconsin on

479
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Speaker 2: the road, Colorado State with a first year coach, Oregon Cal,

480
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Speaker 2: and Cal's gonna have a good defense probably at USC

481
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Speaker 2: at Oregon State. If I have a dark horse pack

482
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Speaker 2: twelve North champ, it's probably Oregon State at this moment.

483
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Speaker 2: So that first that that stretch of seven games without

484
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Speaker 2: a buye, and then there's the bye game before Utah woof,

485
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Speaker 2: woof starting the FCS. It's Cameron Ward at quarterback the

486
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Speaker 2: transfer oh boy in word Yeah, So that's that's your

487
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Speaker 2: Olivia Rodrigo stretch to open the season. Probably Oregon has

488
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Speaker 2: the look ahead against Arizona on the road before it's

489
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Speaker 2: bie weeks. That's the open face look ahead situation, and

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Speaker 2: Oregon fans are not a fan of any sort of

491
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Speaker 2: trappiness with the desert and Tucson. Oregon State has their

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Speaker 2: open face look ahead versus Colorado before the late week

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Speaker 2: bye for the late bye week nine. Washington has that

494
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Speaker 2: look ahead before the bye week at Cal. The open

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Speaker 2: face look Ahead. Wazoo again mentioned the look ahead by

496
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Speaker 2: Sandwich at Oregon State, after that at Olivia Rodrigo Brutal

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Speaker 2: Olivia Rodrigo Brutal center right here, Dan, Yeah, and I

498
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Speaker 2: mentioned the stand for ten straight weeks of football thing

499
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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 1: One other thing that you and I have been kicking

501
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Speaker 1: around here is other weird scheduling quirks. So yes, we

502
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Speaker 1: have a couple types of situations that also creep into

503
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Speaker 1: college football and seemingly have some effect. I've not run

504
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Speaker 1: the numbers on this. I'm making this up, so humor me,

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Speaker 1: do it. Please? Buys before biggies, M buyes before biggies.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we want to workshop that nickname

507
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Speaker 1: a little bit more, but it's okay. You get the

508
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Speaker 1: droll bye week before a big game, got a bunch

509
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Speaker 1: in the Big ten. I can make the argument that

510
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Speaker 1: they didn't do it at random, like the sort of

511
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Speaker 1: time that out so it works for everybody. But within

512
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Speaker 1: the PAC twelve, what does that look like?

513
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Speaker 2: So your buys before biggies. You have Arizona before hosting

514
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Speaker 2: USC on Halloween in the desert. USC is also off

515
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Speaker 2: the week before that game. You have a Oregon I

516
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Speaker 2: can please please, something of a bone to pick here.

517
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Speaker 1: I'm ready. Should we really be counting Arizona in this conversation?

518
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Speaker 1: Arizona is probably going to be terrible again, aren't they?

519
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 1: They're probably going to be terrible, But again, like, why

520
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: do I care If Arizona has a buye before USC?

521
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Speaker 1: They're gonna get drilled by USC.

522
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Speaker 2: Arizona is at the point where they've been active enough

523
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Speaker 2: in the portal and they have a competent quarterback, which

524
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Speaker 2: they didn't last year with a quarterback focused head coach

525
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 2: and Jed Fish former quarterbacks coach. Number of places Jane

526
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Speaker 2: Dolaura likely the starter at quarterback, where they're just going

527
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Speaker 2: to be Nats. That would be gnat. They're just going

528
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 2: to be buzzing in the face of everybody. And I

529
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Speaker 2: think they only beat Cal last year in the Pac

530
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Speaker 2: twelve schedule something like ten to three. But with some

531
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Speaker 2: upgrades at skill positions, there's still a lot of work

532
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 2: to be done on the line and on defense. I

533
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 2: just think they're a kitchen sink team. I just think

534
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Speaker 2: they're going to be a team that goes four and eight,

535
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 2: gives a bunch of teams or three and I something

536
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Speaker 2: like that. They give a bunch of teams everything they

537
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Speaker 2: can handle. They lose twenty eight to twenty one, or

538
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Speaker 2: they win twenty to seventeen because they're in a look

539
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 2: ahead spot. They're in like an advantageous bye week spot.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, Arizona not good, but are squarely in

541
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Speaker 2: your frisky, feisty zone that you love to occupy.

542
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Speaker 1: I don't have a kitchen sink. I do have a

543
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Speaker 1: kitchen junk drawer.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I just think there's something like when you

545
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Speaker 2: watch them lose games last year, you saw the development.

546
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Speaker 2: Now they lose Don Brown, he's now the head coach

547
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 2: at UMAs, So there was something about like the just

548
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: let's blitz the hell out of everybody that worked sometimes

549
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 2: last year, but especially on offense, a sub standard quarterback

550
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 2: would roll out and hit a tight end as intended

551
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 2: on third and seven for nine yards, where you're just like, okay,

552
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 2: the blueprint is coming together, and now they're more talented,

553
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 2: especially on offense than they were last year. So I'm

554
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Speaker 2: just saying they are a team that will be overlooked

555
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 2: and will be a snake in the toilet. That's all

556
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Speaker 2: I'm saying.

557
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Speaker 1: I was, Okay, just made a serious mistake.

558
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Speaker 2: And the fact that they're in the desert where snakes

559
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Speaker 2: live tie. It's true in more than a coincidence.

560
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Speaker 1: That's all. Are there any short week type situations like

561
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Speaker 1: NFL team plays on Sunday than has to.

562
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Speaker 2: Play on Thursday. Yeah, by the way, I came today game,

563
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Speaker 2: I didn't put you. We had buys before biggies. I

564
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Speaker 2: did have nose before goes. That's no game before go time,

565
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Speaker 2: nose before goes. I didn't like it because I had

566
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Speaker 2: to explain it.

567
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Speaker 1: But it does sound fun, all right, works, I love

568
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Speaker 1: the ol ways.

569
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Speaker 2: I got my whiteboard of just terrible, terrible phrasings. So

570
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Speaker 2: the short week before a road game on a Friday,

571
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Speaker 2: so that would be Arizona State traveling in Arizona in

572
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Speaker 2: the Territorial Cup Colorado at USC, and that's right after

573
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Speaker 2: USC has Oregon. Excuse me, right after Colorado has Oregon.

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Speaker 2: I believe Oregon is at Oregon State. And the short

575
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Speaker 2: week for the Platypus Cup or whatever we're calling that,

576
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Speaker 2: UCLA is at cal right after USC. Right after Ucla,

577
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Speaker 2: excuse me, has USC defending champ Utah. No fridays. Also,

578
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Speaker 2: no fridays for Washington, Washington State, and Stanford. So I'm

579
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Speaker 2: sure it rotates every year who's playing these Friday games,

580
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 2: especially who has the Friday short week road matchups. But

581
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Speaker 2: should also mention on the subject made a serious steak,

582
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Speaker 2: my friend. So I have week nine as Snake in

583
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 2: the Toilet Saturday for the PAC twelve. Obviously this is

584
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 2: subject to change after we see who is and isn't good,

585
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Speaker 2: But that's USC at Arizona, Oregon at Cal which always

586
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Speaker 2: always I mean they lost what two years ago Mario

587
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Speaker 2: and Oregon did at Cal in the COVID year, Oregon

588
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 2: at Cal and then Utah at Wazoo all that week

589
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 2: going to pull them and going to the polue. I'm

590
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 2: just saying that is my snaky Saturday, Snake and the

591
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 2: toilet Saturday. As soon as you just feel like you're

592
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 2: taking care of business, right, nothing could go wrong. Now

593
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 2: comes that copperhead, out comes that cotton mouth.

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Speaker 1: M A right, yeah, shall we move over to the

595
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Speaker 1: big ten. Let's let's do it. Dan, can you give

596
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Speaker 1: me that cake sound just one more time? Maybe Minnesota

597
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: Golden Gophers, Dan, New Mexico State, Western Illinois, Colorado to

598
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Speaker 1: start off their season. Not too bad No, They've got

599
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Speaker 1: a road game at Michigan State and Purdue before a

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Speaker 1: buye Purdues at home before the bye, back to back

601
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Speaker 1: road games at Illinois at Penn State after the bye,

602
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: They've got Rutgers at home, Nebraska on the road, Northwestern

603
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: at home, and then they close out their season with

604
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Speaker 1: a home tilt against Iowa and a road game against Wisconsin.

605
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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily have the Minnesota Golden Gophers pegged for

606
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Speaker 1: like ten wins, maybe not even more than eight, but

607
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Speaker 1: that's about as good a schedule as you're going to

608
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Speaker 1: get in the Big Ten. I think they fared pretty

609
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Speaker 1: well from the schedule makers. They did not, though, please

610
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Speaker 1: fare quite as well as play. That's just one more time,

611
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: if I could get that one more time, thank you.

612
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: That's all you get. Purdue boiler Makers. Purdue boiler Makers

613
00:33:54,320 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: have a really nice schedule this year. Great buffers, buffers,

614
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: great buffers.

615
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 2: Have fun editing all of these sounds together and sinking

616
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 2: them up with our voices and maybe just.

617
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Speaker 1: A little bit more complicated than it needed to be.

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Speaker 1: That's okay. After that Week one game against Penn State,

619
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Speaker 1: it's home. We talked about it before. Right now, They're

620
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Speaker 1: a three point favorite after that game. Indiana State on

621
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Speaker 1: the road at Syracuse home against Florida Atlantic Woo Sandwich.

622
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Speaker 1: I don't think you think between Syracuse and Minnesota. Sure

623
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Speaker 1: it's fau. Come on, oh man, here he knows how

624
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Speaker 1: to coach football, Come on, work with me.

625
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jeff brom knows how to start seasons out disappointing

626
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 2: and then beat somebody huge.

627
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Speaker 1: Yeah. At Minnesota at Maryland home against Nebraska. Their only

628
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: road game that really frightens me. On the road at Wisconsin.

629
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Speaker 1: Then there's a bye before Iowa, which is at home

630
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Speaker 1: at Illinois home against Northwestern at India. There's no back

631
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: to back concerns here at all. The good buffers I'm

632
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: not going to play George again. Only road tilt that

633
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: really frightens me is Wisconsin. I think Perdue is in

634
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: a great spot. I don't know to play spoiler maker because,

635
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: oh buddy, the schedule isn't as loaded as it was

636
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,720
Speaker 1: a year ago. They're not playing like you know, Ohio State.

637
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: But there's plenty of opportunity here for Jeff Brahm to

638
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: get his and it sets up really well for Purdue.

639
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Speaker 2: Can I fully disagree with you? Please, Can I full

640
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 2: on disagree with your your Purdue schedule appraisal. Yeah, because

641
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 2: here's what I'm saying. I'm seeing whatever it is they

642
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 2: call the Carrier Dome against a team who's going to

643
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 2: run the hell out of the ball with with Robert

644
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 2: Ana from Virginia is now the new offensive coordinator at Syracuse.

645
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 2: I mean it's eleven coordinators in eleven years or whatever.

646
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 2: It's Fortino papers.

647
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: So there's that.

648
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 2: But still, Seawn Tucker, real deal, we like Minnesota road.

649
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 2: Maryland is another one of those frisky kitchen sink teams

650
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 2: to me that that's on the road, and I don't

651
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 2: love Purdue's defense. I think it's fine. I don't love

652
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 2: them especially on the road, especially after Minnesota, especially second

653
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 2: straight road game. Right, that's a double dip on the

654
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 2: road after Minnesota. And I like Minnesota's defense, So there's

655
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 2: bodyblow issues there as well. You have Wisconsin and you

656
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 2: have Illinois, who had a full on decent defense last

657
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 2: year a week after Iowa. Okay, so that's not ideal.

658
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 2: And then I don't love Indiana, but rivalry game on

659
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 2: the road before that though, I'm just saying the road

660
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 2: home splits to me, with Purdue. If we're talking about

661
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 2: Purdue and appraising their the spoiler maker potential, I think

662
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 2: it's secretly pretty pretty difficult.

663
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: Nah, come on, I'm.

664
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 2: Just telling you, no, I don't love I think there's

665
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 2: some turbulence going on.

666
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 1: Listen, Well, we need to put this in the proper context. Perdue.

667
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: I think will be a decent team. I don't know

668
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: how good. Okay, I don't know. If they're as good

669
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: as they were a year ago. They will be a

670
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: decent team. Jeff brom has done well mm hmm for

671
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 1: a decent team, a mid tier team in the Big Ten.

672
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: To get a schedule like this where you don't have

673
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 1: the back to backs, where the road games aren't suffocating,

674
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: where you've got stretches where your biggest worry is Indiana State,

675
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,919
Speaker 1: Syracuse and FAU, I'd say you're coming out on top

676
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: in that situation, Dan, I'm willing to take that. There

677
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: are other teams here. I could talk about Illinois in

678
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: a minute. I could talk about Iowa's December in a minute.

679
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: We could talk about Northwestern, all right, we could talk

680
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: about some of those schedules if you'd like to. Right,

681
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 1: all things considered, Purdue is coming out ahead with this schedule.

682
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: The Big Ten well plenty obviously a plenty of land mines.

683
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: But all things considered, I think Purdue's doing Okay.

684
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 2: What did I say about I mean, it's not called

685
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 2: a carrier dome, but we have a sound. I'm having

686
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 2: trouble finding it, right. Isn't that where teams go to?

687
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: No more soon? And I have that last year. You've

688
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: got enough sounds ready for me to edit. I know

689
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: that's true. Have that.

690
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 2: I'm worried about Purdue schedule. I'm just telling you right now,

691
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 2: I am. I'm planting my flag on May the thirty first,

692
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 2: the year of Our Lord, twenty twenty two. Just planning

693
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 2: that flag.

694
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: So here's the deal with the Big Ten as a whole.

695
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: Outside of whatever you think about Minnesota and Purdue and

696
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: their schedules, I feel like they kind of sync this

697
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: up to benefit Ohio State, and why shouldn't they? And

698
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 1: Michigan and Penn State and to some extent, Wisconsin. It

699
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: seems like it works out pretty well for those teams.

700
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: Ohio State is in a really advantageous spot because if

701
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: you look at Ohio State's schedule, they don't really have

702
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 1: a circumstance with a ton of back to back killers.

703
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: They do have Iowa followed by a road game at

704
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: Penn State, which will not be easy by any stretch,

705
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: but beyond that, all of their games are spaced out

706
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: pretty well. I'm not gonna play buffer zone again, but

707
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 1: Ohio State's got buffers. Yeah, they've got Notre Dame early

708
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 1: week one, but then it's Arkansas State and then Toledo

709
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: and then the home game against Wisconsin. Then there's a

710
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: road game coming up against Michigan State two weeks after Wisconsin.

711
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: But you've got the nice little buffer with Rutgers. I'm

712
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 1: not gonna put Rutgers as a sandwich spot. I don't

713
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: think it's a sandwich spot. Then there's a bye, then

714
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 1: there's the Iowa Penn State thing, but then you've got

715
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:43,919
Speaker 1: more buffer with Northwestern in Indiana. Maybe there's some trappiness

716
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: to the road game against Maryland before Michigan. I don't know.

717
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't feel that way. So

718
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: I feel like this is spaced out really well for

719
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: Ohio State. If you are an Ohio State believer, as

720
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,479
Speaker 1: I am going into twenty twenty two, the schedule should

721
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: not scare you. This sets up a as well as

722
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: it could.

723
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 2: So I'm not especially worried about Ohio State, but I

724
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 2: think it's fair to say when you look at Ohio

725
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 2: State's actual schedule that they could have five of the

726
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 2: country's best fifteen to twenty defenses on this schedule.

727
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: Right sure.

728
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 2: Between again, not especially worried about how they'll perform, but

729
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 2: it also says, okay, if they go undefeed it, they're

730
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 2: definitely gonna earn it. Between Notre Dame, Wisconsin, Iowa, Penn State,

731
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 2: and Michigan there is I have a little bit of

732
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 2: trepidation about Ohio State and being able to dominate all

733
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 2: five of those teams, but it's again, it's in a

734
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 2: good place because the new coordinators involved with some of

735
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 2: those teams and changes with some of those teams. I

736
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: get all of that, but I don't think it's cake.

737
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 2: I don't think Ohio schedule is cake.

738
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: No no, no, no road tilt until Michigan State in October.

739
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: So that's nice.

740
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 2: They open the season with five straight games at home,

741
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 2: and they get that buy before that back to back

742
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 2: as you mentioned Iowa and Penn State, Penn State on

743
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 2: the road. I think the road splits all in all

744
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,479
Speaker 2: are decent enough. Getting Northwestern and Maryland on the road

745
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 2: in addition to Penn State in that back half pretty great.

746
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 2: Michigan as a home split.

747
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: That's great.

748
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 2: So I think Ohio State all in all, is coming

749
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 2: out ahead. But it should be said, this is not

750
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 2: Minnesota's schedule, this is not Arizona State schedule, just because

751
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 2: of those five defensive ceilings of those teams, oh for sure,

752
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 2: for sure, And it's what you want as an Ohio

753
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 2: State fan. Yeah, if you've got to go up against

754
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 2: a good defense, great, They've got an awesome, incredible offense

755
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 2: that I think it will be a good test for

756
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 2: that offense to see what they can do against some

757
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 2: of those teams. On the Michigan side, it's a little

758
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 2: bit more tenuous to me, Okay, a bit more tenuous.

759
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 2: I don't think the highs are quite as high as

760
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 2: with Ohio State. You mentioned all the heavy hitters, especially

761
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 2: on defense, that are on that Ohio State schedule. Michigan

762
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 2: doesn't quite have that. But Michigan also has a few

763
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 2: more land mines and the schedule does not set up

764
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 2: as favorably. So again, a situation where they start off

765
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 2: with what four straight home games through the month of September,

766
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 2: Colorado State, Hawaii, Yukon, Maryland. They should win all those games, yep.

767
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: They go through an interesting stretch though, as we get

768
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: at a little bit deeper into the season to like

769
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: Week five on the road at Iowa, followed by on

770
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 1: the road at Indiana, which I'm not a huge Indiana believer,

771
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 1: but that game is one of our sandwich matchups that

772
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: we can mention because of elite loser Indiana. Elite loser Indiana.

773
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: It occurs before Michigan comes back home against Penn State.

774
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what to make of that game. I

775
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 1: think Michigan will be just fine against Indiana, but there

776
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: is a sandwich play there that you could look at

777
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: if you're interested. After the bye Michigan State again, that

778
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 1: game's at home. Later in the year, before the Ohio

779
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: State game, They've got Illinois at home, which is interesting,

780
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: trappy look ahead type yeah scenario, But I think this

781
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: sets up pretty well for Michigan, and it should also

782
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 1: be said it sets up pretty well for Penn State

783
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: as well. Again, like probably your three best teams on

784
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: the eastern side of the Big Ten, I think are

785
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: in a pretty good position with their schedules, but I

786
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: did kind of order this accordingly. I think Ohio State's

787
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 1: is easiest, maybe because they're the best team. Even though

788
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: they've got better teams on their schedule, they'll be just fine.

789
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: It sets up well. I think Michigan's is a little harder,

790
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: and I think Penn States is harder still. Penn State's

791
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:33,439
Speaker 1: in an interesting scenario this year. They play Week one

792
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 1: early earlier in the week against Purdue. I keep coming

793
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: back to this Penn State Perdue game because I think

794
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: it's very meaningful. I think this game is almost everything

795
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: for Penn State this year, almost everything. Penn State does

796
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 1: not have a whole lot of big runs on the schedule. Okay,

797
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: later on in the year, it's pretty easy. I think

798
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: Penn State posts by though Michigan on the road Minnesota,

799
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: Ohio State. That's a run. Later in the year, there's

800
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 1: no run. Early in the year. There's no run definitely

801
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: in the middle of that schedule run, which is why

802
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: this Perdue game is so damn important. On the road

803
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: at Purdue, Week one, I think is a must win

804
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 1: scenario for Penn State.

805
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 2: So a must win scenario for Penn State to win

806
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 2: how many total games?

807
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: Nine? Yeah, ten, to get back to nine, maybe even

808
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 1: to eight. We need to win that game at Perdue early, right, Yeah,

809
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 1: I'm using we here. I'm a grad. I like it.

810
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: I like it. Perdue is a must win scenario because

811
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: if you don't beat Purdue, if you start zero to one,

812
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: you've got Auburn on the road two weeks later. I

813
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: don't know what to make Auburn. Boogy boy, boogy I

814
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: don't know what to make Auburn. But that's a tough

815
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: place to play. It is, it definitely is. Okay. There

816
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: are some other Cake opponents in there, Central Michigan, Northwestern

817
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: before the bye, but after the bye, You're right, it

818
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: gets interesting on the road at Michigan. Sandwich game coming

819
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,919
Speaker 1: back home against Minnesota can go all the way back

820
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: to the late nineties. There are still incubus attacks occurring

821
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 1: as a result of what happened in that Minnesota game.

822
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: Minnesota knocked off Penn State in State College and then

823
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: Ohio State after the Minnesota game. That run in particular

824
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: will define the season. But I do think it's games

825
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: early on, like the Purdue game, that are going to

826
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: ultimately determine you know to what heights this team eventually

827
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: makes it. So Yeah, I think i'd order the Big

828
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: Ten East schedules as Ohio State easiest, Michigan's second easiest,

829
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: Penn State third easiest, at least among the teams at

830
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: the top, Michigan State, Michigan State.

831
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 2: So you're already missing a team that's beaten two of

832
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 2: those teams last year in Michigan State. Yeah, and that

833
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 2: brings me to Michigan State, who I probably put next

834
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 2: if I'm ordering schedules accordingly in the Big Ten East,

835
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 2: because Michigan State has something that almost no other team

836
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 2: in the conference has, and that is just a crazy

837
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 2: run right in the middle of the schedule. Crazy run

838
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 2: right in the middle of the schedule. Road game at Washington,

839
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 2: all right, no one's really sounding the alarm bells for Washington,

840
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 2: new coach, no one place to play though, no one really.

841
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: Knows what they're going to get. But Washington is not

842
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: an easy place to play. Coming back home after that

843
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: against Minnesota, Minnesota, say what you will about Minnesota, they

844
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: bring a lot back.

845
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 2: Okay, they're good team, They're projected to be top twenty five,

846
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 2: top twenty ish.

847
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a sneaky opponent. Also Maryland speaking of

848
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: elite losers, but that's a road game. After Minnesota and

849
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: before Ohio State, there's real sandwich potential there with the

850
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: Terra Pins, and then Ohio State and Wisconsin back to

851
00:46:56,120 --> 00:47:01,439
Speaker 1: back at home before a bye week Chicken. Frankly, after

852
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 1: the bye week, you will know a lot about the

853
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: Michigan State Spartans by the time we get to December.

854
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: By the time we get to December, you're gonna know

855
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: exactly what you know about everybody by the time they don't. No, no,

856
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: you don't, because look, there are all sorts of games

857
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: here within the Big Ten, especially as you get on

858
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: the western side of the conference, where you're not going

859
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 1: to have any clue what these teams are until they

860
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: play their schedules in December. Michigan's and you know, the

861
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 1: same could even be true for you know, some of

862
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: the other better teams. Wisconsin I think falls into that category, right,

863
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: they're on the western side as well, but Iowa falls

864
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: into that category too. The better teams, you may not

865
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: fully know what they've got in the tank until they

866
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: get to the real ladder part of their schedules. Hold

867
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: on all of their schedules are done by December. So

868
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 1: if we don't know what these teams are after twelve games,

869
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 1: what are we even doing. I'm saying by December, not

870
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 1: by the end of December, but by December. Right week

871
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: is what week? It's the final week of the Okay,

872
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,439
Speaker 1: shut up for a second, Shut up for a second.

873
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: Let me talk.

874
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna have a good concept of how

875
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,399
Speaker 2: this team is by the end of the season. No,

876
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,439
Speaker 2: by December, December, the games are over.

877
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: I meant to say November. That's right, I'm playing my flag. Now,

878
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 1: after we've seen twelve games, we'll have a good concept.

879
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: Are you better leave this in? You better leave this in?

880
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: We can, we can leave all this in. I'm getting

881
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: my calendar mix up.

882
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 2: Man, It's okay, it happens. It's it's May. We're not

883
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 2: in mid season form yet. Oh my gosh, I thought

884
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 2: I was. I thought I was losing my mind. I

885
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 2: thought you were gaslighting me in a weird way. But okay,

886
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 2: by November.

887
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: There is another month in there, the month of my birth. November.

888
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 1: Great month. Yeah, uh, there are a lot of teams here.

889
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 1: You won't know what they are until November. Dan, there

890
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,760
Speaker 1: we go, you just won't be wonet of any idea.

891
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: Michigan State's one of them, Wisconsin's one of them. I

892
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: was one of them. If I'm ordering schedules again, in

893
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: the East, it's Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Michigan State

894
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: in that order.

895
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 2: Can I get your subterranean snake surprise Saturdays for each

896
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 2: of those four teams since you have decided to highlight

897
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 2: them from the East, And who are your like, who

898
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 2: is your juncture kitchen sync raised competence level team in

899
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 2: the way that Arizona is for me in the Pac

900
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 2: twelve that they just situationally are in a nice place.

901
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 2: They're just cozying up to strike. Who is that team

902
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 2: for those four teams? It could be you know, different

903
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 2: teams for those four teams situationally, But for the Michigan schools,

904
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 2: Ohio State, and Penn State. Who are you looking at

905
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 2: as sort of laying in the weeds ready to strike?

906
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: Well, Minnesota, right, we talked about Minnesota. They're too good,

907
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 1: They're too good for too good that team. Yeah, Minnesota

908
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,720
Speaker 1: is one that I that I highlighted as an interesting

909
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 1: sandwich game. But there are a couple others here. I

910
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 1: think Illinois really interesting. I called them out earlier. Illinois

911
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: got a couple games this year, not the least of

912
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,479
Speaker 1: which is Michigan the week before the Ohio State game.

913
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: But Illinois also has the good fortune of playing Wisconsin

914
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 1: the week after Wisconsin is on the road at Ohio State. Yep,

915
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: letdown spot. Illinois is also in a scenario where they

916
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: are squaring off against Iowa the week after Iowa plays Michigan.

917
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. So there are a couple games here that

918
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: are potentially interesting. Illinois also, for what it's worth, is

919
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: the first team that Minnesota plays after the Golden Gophers

920
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: have their bye week, and it's one week before the

921
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 1: Golden Gophers go to State College. A couple games here

922
00:50:55,320 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: that are quite trappy that are on Illinois schedule that

923
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: I think put them in an interesting scenario to maybe

924
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: be this year's Purdue where they're not winning nine games

925
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,720
Speaker 1: or I'm you know, I'm not saying that, but teams

926
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: that they could potentially knock off. Situationally, there's a sandwich game,

927
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: there's a look ahead spot, there's a letdown spot. And

928
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: we know from watching Illinois last year they certainly weren't

929
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: a great football team, but they played hard, they played

930
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: whistle to whistle, and they definitely were closer in a

931
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: lot of those games than we would have thought going in.

932
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: So Illinois is very interesting to me, especially for some

933
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: of those teams, some of the better teams in the conference.

934
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 1: Another one that I highlighted here on the Michigan side

935
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 1: is the Indiana game. Indiana definitely elite loser territory.

936
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 2: They'll be probably better with the amount of turnover than

937
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 2: Connor Bayslack. We'll see, but there is a good amount

938
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 2: of roster turnover, which is probably for the best after

939
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 2: last year.

940
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: Michigan's got Indiana on the road a week after Iowa

941
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 1: and a week before Penn State. There's a Sandwich game, yeah,

942
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: that we could discuss there. Indiana is also in an

943
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 1: interesting spot for Penn State because Penn State's at home.

944
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: I believe that's a noon game against Ohio State now,

945
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,919
Speaker 1: so they'll get Anon wide out or whenever that's worth.

946
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,720
Speaker 1: And then the following week, Penn State's on the road

947
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: in Bloomington, Yeah, against the Indiana Hoosiers. That could be

948
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: an interesting spot as well. Also, by the way, Indiana

949
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: squaring off against Michigan State a week before the Spartans

950
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 1: go to State College and close out the season. Can

951
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: I give you some a junk option here, please? This

952
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 1: is my feeling.

953
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 2: Maryland feels a little bit gumpy to those teams that

954
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 2: they just keep finding themselves in the picture. And what

955
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 2: I mean by that is Maryland and I don't love

956
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 2: the terps. Maryland gets Michigan as a look ahead before

957
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 2: Michigan travels to Iowa City. Maryland gets Michigan State as

958
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 2: a sandwich spot at home. Maryland's at home against Michigan

959
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 2: State after Michigan State has Minnesota and before they have

960
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 2: Ohio State, and Maryland is the look ahead spot also

961
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 2: on the road for Ohio State ahead of Michigan. I

962
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 2: don't love Maryland. They looked pathetic at times last year.

963
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:19,919
Speaker 2: But the ceiling of t Leah to Rakim Jarrett, who

964
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,879
Speaker 2: I think is one of the four to six best

965
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 2: receivers in the Big Ten, maybe they had a defining

966
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 2: characterist to their defense. They got to the quarterback. They

967
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 2: blitzed the hell out of teams. There is something like

968
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 2: all or nothing ish about Maryland and they will put

969
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 2: up nothing some weeks for sure that Maryland is just

970
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 2: finding itself in kind of that lurky spot where again,

971
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 2: not high on them, but if there's that team that

972
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 2: is advantageous situationally, it just might be former producer of

973
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 2: the show, tailor of Redshell Radio his terps. Yeah, there

974
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 2: is somebody who is going to regret not fearing the turtle.

975
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: How about that? Somebody will probably regret it. And I

976
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 1: had a similar thought going through this real quick on

977
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: the eastern side before I move over to the west

978
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: and just give you a synopsis of what's going on.

979
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 1: I mentioned the biggies after the bye bye, before the

980
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,919
Speaker 1: biggie still workshopping the name he knows before it goes,

981
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: knows before it goes. Yeah, Big ten did a pretty

982
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: good job syncing these up right. So Ohio State Iowa

983
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: should be a pretty big matchup. Both Ohio State and

984
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: Iowa are on bye before that matchup, there's also a

985
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 1: big showdown between Michigan and Michigan State. That game occurs

986
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 1: back in week nine. Both those teams are on a

987
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 1: bye as well. Penn State's got Michigan off a bye.

988
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: That's a nice scenario for the Nitneylyons. Michigan. We talked

989
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: about their sandwich game against Indiana. That occurs again a

990
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,919
Speaker 1: week before the Penn State game. So Penn State coming

991
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: off of bye having to go on the road and

992
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: square off against Michigan's a nice spot for them. There's

993
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: also a nice spot a little bit later on in

994
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:18,760
Speaker 1: the year if you are the Illinois Aliini uh hm hmmm,

995
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: because they do have a bit of a murderer's row,

996
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: but there's plenty of opportunity in the back half of

997
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 1: their schedule to maybe pull an upset. Sure and coming

998
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: off of a bye week, getting an opportunity to go

999
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: to Nebraska maybe in place spoiler there, I think is

1000
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,479
Speaker 1: an interesting spot. They're all going to be big games

1001
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 1: for Illinois, but I think getting a team like a

1002
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 1: Nebraska off a bye Nebraska, by the way, in that circumstance,

1003
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 1: is also off a bye, so I don't know if

1004
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: they're going to It's not like Illinois sneak it up

1005
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 1: on anybody, but Nebraska going into the back half of

1006
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,919
Speaker 1: its schedule may not have Illinois on its mind because

1007
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: they're going to have to attend with the likes of

1008
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 1: Minnesota and Michigan and Wisconsin in Iowa. Throwing it out there,

1009
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: I am going to pose it something about the West.

1010
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: And you have not touched on this team yet.

1011
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 2: And I want your thoughts on a pretty decent Nebraska situations.

1012
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 1: It's going to be a November to remember, right, So,

1013
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 1: Nebraska's schedule, a Nebraska's situation, and Nebraska situationally with where

1014
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 1: everything sort of pops up is fascinating, is super duper fascinating.

1015
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: This year, they've hit the portal relatively hard, lost guys

1016
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: and gain guys. That if we have just the math

1017
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 1: and progressing improving to the mean, if we're to believe

1018
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 1: Nebraska's three to nine season was much closer to a

1019
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: six and six season and that math evens out the

1020
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: universe and math even out over time, that if Nebraska

1021
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: is playing in a bunch of close games this year,

1022
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,760
Speaker 1: that statistically they're going to be winning them after losing

1023
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: them last year. If that's what we're to believe, Nebraska's

1024
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: schedule is fascinating, And I want your thoughts on the

1025
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: Huskers potential. And did you called it? Maybe it was

1026
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: two years ago.

1027
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 2: It wasn't last year, I don't think, but two years

1028
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,399
Speaker 2: ago you were like, don't be surprised that Nebraska starts

1029
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 2: eight and oh something like that, it didn't happen. But

1030
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 2: the seven and oh thing this year with Nebraska, what

1031
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 2: is something there?

1032
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: There is something there. The schedule is about as cake

1033
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: as you're going to get for other than Oklahoma to

1034
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: start other than Oklahoma first half of the season. So

1035
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: there's a real possibility here that we're talking about November,

1036
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: we're talking about a Nebraska team that seven and one.

1037
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: It's possible. By the way that Oklahoma game the point

1038
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: spread the early line is only four and a half.

1039
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: So Vegas isn't looking past Nebraska at all, even in

1040
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 1: that game. And they've gotten Oklahoma at home. It's competitive

1041
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, the toughest game on this schedule outside

1042
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: of Oklahoma before they get into the real meat of

1043
00:57:55,520 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 1: their schedule in November is probably a road tilt against Purdue,

1044
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: and that ain't bad. After that bye week, it's the

1045
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: Illinois game that I called out earlier, it's Minnesota. Both

1046
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 1: those games are at home. The big tell for the

1047
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: corn Huskers is going to be late last three games

1048
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: of the year at Michigan home against Wisconsin, on the

1049
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: road at Iowa Heros Trophy game. Mm hm. You win

1050
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: one of those three, it's a huge success this season.

1051
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: Because they should be in pretty good shape the rest

1052
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: of the way. But agree, but we'll see. We thought

1053
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: that last year, right. It was a brutal schedule last year,

1054
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: much more difficult last year. This sets up, I think

1055
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: much more favorably for the Huskers, So we'll see how

1056
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: things shake out for them. Just looking again more broadly

1057
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: other teams in the West real quick before we bring

1058
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: this thing home, Wisconsin. Wisconsin's in an interesting spot. Wisconsin

1059
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: has that double decker sandwich spot that I mentioned earlier.

1060
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: I'm not too concerned about the month of the bulk

1061
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: of September for Wisconsin how they start off, but there

1062
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 1: is a game in there against Ohio State on the

1063
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 1: road before games against both Illinois and Northwestern. I don't

1064
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: think much of Northwestern this year, but you could definitely,

1065
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 1: you could definitely build a case that Ohio State, followed

1066
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: by Illinois and Northwestern before a road game against Michigan

1067
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: State has some look ahead potential in there. Okay, I

1068
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Speaker 1: don't know if I believe that to my core, but

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Speaker 1: you can mount that case. I could see it. There's

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Speaker 1: also a Purdue home game in there, and then a

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Speaker 1: murderer's row towards the end. Of the season at Iowa

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Speaker 1: at Nebraska home against Minnesota. I'm not necessarily afraid of

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Speaker 1: the schedule from the Wisconsin standpoint, but I think there's

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Speaker 1: a pretty good chance we're talking about a six and

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Speaker 1: two Badger squad as we go into the month of November. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so I think there's a possibility we could be talking

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Speaker 1: about eight and four Wisconsin. Yeah, after I mean, after

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Speaker 1: all the dust settles. I think that's that's very much

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Speaker 1: on the table.

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Speaker 2: By the way, something as it relates to Wisconsin and

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Speaker 2: the previous team we spoke about Nebraska, Nebraska being pretty

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Speaker 2: decent is almost a hockey assist to other teams. I'm

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Speaker 2: probably misusing that term that like, if Nebraska's pretty decent,

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Speaker 2: that that seriously turns Illinois into a letdown look ahead

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Speaker 2: sandwich from Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: No, if Nebraska, which is I think it's in ann

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Speaker 2: arbor against Michigan, if they're pretty decent, if they are

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Speaker 2: you know whatever that is seven and one, you know,

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Speaker 2: five and three, six and two somewhere in there, that

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Speaker 2: you have to take them seriously, then the Illinois game

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Speaker 2: four Michigan becomes a little trappier and trickier. If Nebraska

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Speaker 2: is decent there suddenly that Sandwich game themselves after Iowa

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Speaker 2: on the road, before Minnesota in the Ax game for Wisconsin.

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Speaker 2: So they're the reverberations. If Wisconsin has its act together,

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Speaker 2: especially Casey Thompson at quarterback, if he is, you know,

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Speaker 2: relatively careful with the ball and responsible for some explosive

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Speaker 2: plays downfield, then the reverberations are pretty interesting for the Huskers.

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Speaker 2: I think Wisconsin is going to be good, but you're right,

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Speaker 2: that is the stretch of getting Ohio State on the road,

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Speaker 2: getting Michigan State on the road, it's tricky. And then

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Speaker 2: that final stretch of Iowa and Nebraska Minnesota is pretty basic.

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Speaker 1: And for what it's worth, Iowa is looking at a

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Speaker 1: really tough schedule in my view this year. Yeah, it's not.

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Speaker 1: You don't have a situation for any of these top

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Speaker 1: teams really where you've got a murderer's row back to

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Speaker 1: back to back to back. You've got a couple where

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Speaker 1: it lines up that way in November. Notice I say November,

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Speaker 1: not December this time around. Thank you for that. Of course,

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Speaker 1: Iowa's got a decent buffer situation, but really tough draw

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Speaker 1: both Michigan and Ohio State from the East, and all

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Speaker 1: of those games tend to stack up outside of September.

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Speaker 1: Once you get through September, that's when the rubber meets

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Speaker 1: the road for the iowah Hawk guys. There's a Michigan game,

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Speaker 1: There's a road game against Ohio State. Then as you

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Speaker 1: get into November, you've got games at Purdue which could

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Speaker 1: be tricky, Wisconsin at Minnesota, close out the year against Nebraska,

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Speaker 1: a team we just discussed as potentially having a lot

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Speaker 1: of upward mobility this year. It's not going to be

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Speaker 1: a walk in the park for Iowa by any stretch.

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Speaker 1: They need to get that offense figured out otherwise it's

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Speaker 1: going to be problematic for them.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, they're also, yeah, they're playing the schedule without

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Speaker 2: a quarterback. That's the issue for Iowa. That even Look,

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying Iowa is losing to the Jacks of

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Speaker 2: South Dakota State, but this was an FCS semi final

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Speaker 2: team last year. This is a team that moved the

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Speaker 2: ball on I mean again, they were a very good

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Speaker 2: FCS team. And does Iowa have a somewhat shaky history

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Speaker 2: against Dakota schools early on? Sure, they absolutely do. I

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Speaker 2: don't know why we're lumping Dakota schools together, but it

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Speaker 2: is a It's a look ahead spot in week one

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Speaker 2: before a rivalry game for Iowa without a quarterback, without

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Speaker 2: what we believe to be a downfield passing game unless

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Speaker 2: something dramatically changes. I know you're looking past Ken Wilson

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Speaker 2: in the fight in Nevada Wolfpack, and that's fine, that's fine.

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Speaker 2: It's going to take a minute for Ken Wilson and Nevada,

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Speaker 2: but the Michigan Illinois twosome right there, as you mentioned that,

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Speaker 2: you got to get through September, and it's I'm still

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Speaker 2: not confident in Iowa or Iowa State. Even though Kirk

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Speaker 2: Ferrence owns that rivalry, it's still tricky without a passing game.

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Speaker 2: And then you're right that November with that that threesome

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Speaker 2: to end there or foursome to end the year for

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Speaker 2: Iowa is what, as you say, not a walk in

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Speaker 2: the park. No, you're right, but Iowa can be bad

1146
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Speaker 2: on one side of the ball and get to ten wits,

1147
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 2: which is just ridiculous, defending champs in the West without

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Speaker 2: a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I love the way that the Big Ten work, the scheduling.

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Speaker 1: I just I think it's really intriguing. It will be

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Speaker 1: awesome the full way through, and there will be plenty

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Speaker 1: of weeks within the Big Ten where we talk about

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Speaker 1: it frankly like we do the sec sure, where it

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Speaker 1: just it all feels like we're going to have this

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Speaker 1: aha moment and determine, Okay, Wisconsin's pretty good or Wisconsin's

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01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:28,959
Speaker 1: not or Iowa is really not good. Like we will

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Speaker 1: find all of that stuff out. I think on you know,

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Speaker 1: week eight or week nine, we will have these epiphanies

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Speaker 1: throughout the course of the season that are going to

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Speaker 1: make the Big Ten schedule really really interesting to follow.

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Speaker 1: For what it's worth. Of the teams that I didn't mention,

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Speaker 1: and I promise not not to go into too much

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Speaker 1: detail about Maryland or Rutgers or I talk Maryland, continue

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Speaker 1: with Western. These are teams that were almost given an

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Speaker 1: unfair draw. Maryland's schedule is brutal, rutgers schedule is brutal.

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Speaker 1: Part of that is because they're not great teams, but

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Speaker 1: also part of that is because they're just freaking brutal.

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Speaker 1: Northwestern's schedule look at Indiana's by the way, Indiana's schedule exactly.

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Speaker 1: These are not easy scheduled by any stretch of the imagination,

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Speaker 1: and so you feel for those teams. You know, in

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Speaker 1: the Indiana case, you gotta win Week one against Illinois,

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Speaker 1: otherwise there's almost no chance of going to a bowl game.

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Speaker 1: But I think what that also means, especially for a

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Speaker 1: team like Maryland that you rightfully called out, because there

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Speaker 1: is so much AMMO on the schedule, there's plenty of

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Speaker 1: opportunity to pull an upset and throw the whole conference

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Speaker 1: into a tizzy.

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Speaker 2: You left off one very important element, one important detail

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Speaker 2: that is tied to a shall I say, borderline erotic sound.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you have that at the ready.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry I should have I should have asked.

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Speaker 1: You talking about the Illinois Wisconsin game.

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Speaker 2: Ionic No, I am talking about Illinois and the return

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Speaker 2: of November to tie. Yeah, the return of November for

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Speaker 2: Illinois features the ALLIONI hosting Michigan State a week after

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Speaker 2: Michigan State has Michigan on the road. So there's that

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Speaker 2: double dip for Michigan State, two road games in a row,

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01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 2: opportunity for potential upset. Maybe Illinois just like pull on

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Speaker 2: good I don't know. It's probably too early to assume

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01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 2: that about Illinois. But in terms of doubting Illinois being

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01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 2: able to bash teams later on in the season, they

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Speaker 2: not only have Michigan State, they have Purdue a week

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Speaker 2: after Iowa. Okay, they have Michigan a week after Michigan

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Speaker 2: has what we might be seeing a pretty decent Nebraska.

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Speaker 2: So I'm just saying the electricity in the air that's

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Speaker 2: in Champagne is not palpable. But there's something there situationally

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Speaker 2: for Illinois to take advantage of novembert borderline erotic momentum.

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Speaker 2: They much of the way Maryland feels gumpy Illinois and

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Speaker 2: November feels pretty gumpy. All right, do you disagree?

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Speaker 1: Are you good? No? No, I'm I'm secretly very bullish

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Speaker 1: on Illinois this year. We've made so much hay on

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Speaker 1: the Drive for six. I think Drive for six is

1203
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Speaker 1: going to be fascinating to follow because the early part

1204
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Speaker 1: of Illinois schedule is much more workable. They've got a

1205
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Speaker 1: week one game against Wyoming. Wyoming a team a year ago.

1206
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Speaker 1: But we're talking about a squad that I think needs

1207
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 1: to get off on the right foot with its first

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Speaker 1: four games, and that's when it gets kind of crazy.

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Speaker 1: If we want to do the drive for six thing. Again,

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Speaker 1: it's not sure. There's nothing here. Not even the Northwestern

1211
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 1: game at the end of the year is going to

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Speaker 1: be easy for Illinois because of where Illinois has been

1213
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Speaker 1: at and hopefully with Northwestern also improved. But in between

1214
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Speaker 1: Chattanooga at like the end of September and Northwestern at

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Speaker 1: the end of November, you've got like eight games in there,

1216
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Speaker 1: seven games in there where nothing is going to be

1217
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Speaker 1: a picnic.

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Speaker 2: So do you have week six? I think it's week

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Speaker 2: six as your snake in the toilet Saturday for the

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Speaker 2: Big ten. So that would be Iowa, Illinois, that would

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Speaker 2: be Nebraska on the road at Rutgers. We'll see, we

1222
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Speaker 2: have Purdue on the road at Maryland. You have Northwestern

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Speaker 2: at home against Wisconsin, and that's a week after Wisconsin

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Speaker 2: has well it's Illinois. Whatever, you have, Michigan, Indiana, we

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Speaker 2: have I said Maryland Perdue, and I think that's it.

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Speaker 2: I think that's I mean, there's three interesting yeah situations.

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Speaker 1: I think it's week six, Yeah, week six, Okay, subterranean

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Speaker 1: snake surprise. All right, So we will link up as

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Speaker 1: part of this episode a place where you can go

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Speaker 2: I'm going to say by February we're gonna have a

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Speaker 2: good concept of where Purdue is. I'm going to say

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Speaker 2: by late Memorial Day weekend next year, twenty twenty three

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Speaker 2: will know where Indiana stands.

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Speaker 1: Two. What an idiot I am?

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Speaker 1: Two of our schedule preview, where we'll talk about the

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