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Speaker 1: using enough. You're listening to soft A Gradio Special Operations,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to this week's edition of Software Radio with your host,

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Speaker 1: Big Phild Campum from across the Pond. I've actually a

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Speaker 1: start by saying we're on time and we're on target

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Speaker 1: with Software Radio. Okay, cool, let's crack on with what

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about this week. Well, we're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about the Remembrance rum More. We're also going to

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Speaker 1: talk about some celebrity security, and we're gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: plain disturbances, all topical, all subjects of stuff that's going

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Speaker 1: on right now and around us. So let's kick things

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Speaker 1: right off then with the Remembrance Rumble. Okay, for those

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Speaker 1: of you who don't know, then the Remembrance Rumble is

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Speaker 1: a boxing man and it's not just any boxing match.

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Speaker 1: It's UK Special Forces versus US Special Forces and it

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Speaker 1: happens every year. Okay, so this has been going now

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Speaker 1: for four years. The concept was drawn up by myself

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Speaker 1: like I said, now for the last four years. Why

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Speaker 1: of a history lessons behind the rememberance rumbles. Shall I've

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Speaker 1: always liked boxing. I've always liked combat sports full stop,

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Speaker 1: And there was no malice in it. It was done

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Speaker 1: Now it's not a huge but it's been there for years.

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Speaker 1: agree with. So that's another thing. Another thing straight away,

428
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 1: a little bit from from the crowds, the crowds, over

429
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 1: zealous crowds. And the other thing with the over zealous

430
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 1: crowds is like if I had a diplomat in cardball

431
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 1: and I was trying to get them through a crowd,

432
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,680
Speaker 1: I really would start pushing people back, shout and screaming

433
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,119
Speaker 1: and all the rest of it. But these people have

434
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 1: got an image. These are their fans. These are people

435
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 1: that have paid possibly a lot of money to come

436
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 1: and see them. They don't always swatted like a fly

437
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,879
Speaker 1: by bodyguard. They don't want to be knocked into the

438
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 1: dirt and trampled on by the whole entourage as it

439
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 1: goes by. That's not what it's about some of these

440
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,440
Speaker 1: poople of kids. So you have to be very careful

441
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,439
Speaker 1: with your approach and how you deal with things. And like,

442
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,760
Speaker 1: for instance, I'd say that my boss when I was

443
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,160
Speaker 1: in Cardball, they will take the back door to day boss,

444
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,439
Speaker 1: there's less chance that they're being some papers there and

445
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 1: some pressing, some paperaps and all that sort of stuff.

446
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 1: You try telling Kasabian to go to back door to

447
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,959
Speaker 1: avoid the press. They want the press, that's what they're about.

448
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 1: It's like shares, all that sort of stuff. That's what

449
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 1: they want. And I said, by the guard, that's what

450
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 1: you're going to have to deal with, you know, as

451
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 1: a bodyguard to the stars, that is that's all stuff

452
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 1: that you're gonna have to deal with, all stuff that

453
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to manage. It's people trying to get

454
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 1: on the stage. Like to say, it's just it's nine

455
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 1: times out of ten it's over zealous. It's a who

456
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 1: do I look after I went to Lebanon and I

457
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,880
Speaker 1: looked after someone there and I can't remember his name now,

458
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 1: but he was from Lebanon, and the crowd got really

459
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 1: really excited and they were all throwing pillows. But it

460
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 1: all got a bit much for him and he wanted

461
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 1: to come off the stage, and he did at one

462
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 1: point come off the stage and I had to talk

463
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 1: to him, say, look, it's only pillows son, it's all right,

464
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 1: we'll be there, And I ended up a lot of

465
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 1: them didn't want you there, but this guy actually ended

466
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: up siding with me and going or Phil, please look

467
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 1: after me, and all that sort of stuff. So yeah,

468
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 1: that was that was a strange one. So, like they say,

469
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,399
Speaker 1: some of its non hostile behavior, but it can be

470
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,360
Speaker 1: intimidating and it can scare him. I went to Glastonbury,

471
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 1: which is a famous festival in the UK, and I

472
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 1: looked after a guy called Dizzy Rascal I've mentioned earlier,

473
00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 1: very nice guy, a rapper and a good rapper, and

474
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 1: he spent some time in Miami as well, so he

475
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 1: might have come across him in the States. And I

476
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 1: took him to the Glastonbury and we were on stage

477
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 1: and he did his act and all that sort of stuff.

478
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 1: Withever a few days and there was a VIP area

479
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 1: and we used to hang about in the VIP area afterwards.

480
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 1: And it's one time, he says, Phil, he says, I

481
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 1: wish I was a normal person, I says, looking with

482
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,479
Speaker 1: a normal person. Dizzy, well, we are about, he says, well,

483
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 1: feel he goes, I'd love to I'd like to go

484
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 1: in the crowd. I'd love to go in the mosh pit.

485
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 1: I'd love to go and see how it's from the

486
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 1: other side, from the person looking up, he says, because

487
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 1: I've been a star since a young person, and I've

488
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 1: never really been to a festival. I've never really seen

489
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: what it's like to be in that crowd, to walk

490
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 1: around with a beer in your hand, and you know

491
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: all the stuff that you and I that you know

492
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 1: frequent festivals. If you do, that's what you get from

493
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 1: the festival, the enjoyment, the spectacle. They're watching the band,

494
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 1: and I says, Dizzy, I said, do the other favor,

495
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,360
Speaker 1: I says, go out there your caravan at the back.

496
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 1: I says, and can get yourself a large tower and

497
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 1: put over your head, and then go and get to

498
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 1: too counts and larker two cans of beer from the

499
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 1: v I p area. So he turns up with his

500
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: two cons of beer and tow all over his head

501
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 1: and myself. So I joined him under the town and

502
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 1: we held the beer out in front of us, and

503
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: we left the area like we were just two drunks

504
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 1: having a bit of a laugh under a towel. Just

505
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: sort of behavior you see all day at festivals, people

506
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 1: being stupid and stupid things. And I walked with Dizzy

507
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: all the way into the center of the crowd, and

508
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 1: it was rocking, and I can't remember what the hanmer

509
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: was on now, but we were jumping up and down

510
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 1: and dance. We kept this town on our heads. We

511
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 1: were jumping up and down and dancing about and having

512
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: a really good laugh, and he was really enjoying it

513
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: was out there. We did about three or four the records,

514
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,959
Speaker 1: and anyway, we jumped up and I remember, I remember

515
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: my beer getting knocked out of my hand. And I

516
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 1: hadn't been drinking anyway, but my beer got knocked out

517
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: my hand and I dropped it and went to grabbed

518
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 1: the towel, and somebody else grabbed the towel. He dropped

519
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 1: his beer? Did he dropped his beer before we knew

520
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:58,919
Speaker 1: at the time of him ripped off? Now that's not

521
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: I'm nothing. Nobody knew who was under the tail, so

522
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: it was just you know, people in the first story

523
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 1: is a towel bullet, you know what I mean. Anyway,

524
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: this towel come off his head and someone went Dizzy

525
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 1: ra school and someone else went right mate, I had

526
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 1: to pick Dizzy up. I've stuffed him on my shoulders

527
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: and I ran with him like a pro football player

528
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: or a rugby player on my shoulder, just bashing into people.

529
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: And I had to get all the way through this crowd.

530
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: I managed it just about and we got back to

531
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 1: the VIP area and they let us in for a while. Yeah,

532
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 1: we just had to get out. And I say, there

533
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 1: was nobody in the crowd at all, in any way

534
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 1: shape with form that would have wanted to hurt Dizzy.

535
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 1: It's just that when you get this crowd mentality, you

536
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 1: can cause a stampede. And when he caused a stampede,

537
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: it can just go absolutely mad, straight off the bat

538
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: type mad like you know what I mean. So yeah,

539
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: really really scary stuff. Not that scary. I mean it

540
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 1: could have been once. We could have been doing the

541
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 1: same thing in mood this year with you and Jackets

542
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: on compy. So it's not that bad. And it was

543
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: a one was as and I but Dizzy when we

544
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 1: got back to the pen and I said, hey, come on,

545
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: I said, you know you wanted to go out there, son,

546
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 1: and that's what we did. So we did do that.

547
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: But like I said, the hobby guarding as I call it,

548
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: the body guarding as they call it, it's different. It's

549
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: like I say, you don't have the same restraint. So

550
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: I don't remember a team of lad to actually hobby

551
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: guarding a celebrity in London and one of them tried

552
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: to stop the principal and I'm not going to say

553
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: it was because I don't want to embarrass her, but

554
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 1: one of them trying to stop the girl from getting

555
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: out of the car because there was a group of

556
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: lads that with unsavory character and she wouldn't haven't got

557
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: out and actually sacked the guy from trying to stop her,

558
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: and she did, getting a bit of a wrap with

559
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: these guys, and it did say something and it was

560
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: a bit unpleasant and she got spat out and all

561
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 1: that sort of stuff. And even though so you shouldn't

562
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: have stopped me from getting out of the car. Really,

563
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 1: So that's what you're up again. So it's not it's

564
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: not a career path I say that people don't do.

565
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: But for me, they say I'd only ever take a

566
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: celebrity that I want to take. There's been plenty that

567
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 1: I didn't want to take. I've been asked a few

568
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: times and what they say, one of my claims to

569
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: one of my big clothes to fame is I refuse

570
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: to take Amy Winehouse to rehab. I said, no, no, no,

571
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 1: So there you go. There you go a little bit,

572
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: and I hope a god that that that's given a

573
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: little bit of an insight into the differences of what

574
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: the job entails. But the main thing is that the

575
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 1: shoe is on there for there, the paying customer. There's

576
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: no diplomatic protection, there's no privilege as afforded you other

577
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 1: than a VI I P pass into areas backstage and

578
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: that sort of stuff. So it's a very very different

579
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: world thought you might be used to if you're a

580
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 1: steely i'd operator, you know, working in one of the

581
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: top tier units around the globe, and now you find

582
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: yourself still next to somebody who plays your guitar for

583
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: a living. There you go, right, Okay, cooler, let's crack

584
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: on the one last thing to talk about this week

585
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: in London and plane disturbance. This week in London or

586
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: last week in London. Should I say a guy decides

587
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 1: that he's gonna he's gonna climb on top of a

588
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: plane at London City Airport and cause all sorts of disruption.

589
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 1: He glued his hand that a plane in the end

590
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,959
Speaker 1: got all very scared, and I think leaforities got him

591
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 1: off eventually. It was an absolute pain for everybody and

592
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: all concerned. But disturbances on planes are not completely uncommon.

593
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: And what they say, if it happens on the ground,

594
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: that's one thing, and the authorities will deal with it

595
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: extremely swiftly, extremely quickly and extremely efficiently. They'll be on

596
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: it bang and they'll want to quash it straight away.

597
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: Once the things in the air, all right, it could

598
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: be a different deal. So let's just talk and let's

599
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: just think about, you know, the sorts of things that

600
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: could happen once the plane takes off. And I'm going

601
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: to tell you now, nine times out of ten one

602
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: an instant happens in the sky. From my experience, it

603
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: will be down to too much alcohol. Okay, So drinking

604
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: on planes it there's a fault fear from straight away.

605
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: Just band drinking on planes and he's probably lose. He

606
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: probably lose the majority of the trouble straight away, but

607
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: they don't. So there is drinking on planes the big

608
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: concerned obviously nowadays it's the fair from terrorism Okay, So

609
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: as we were staw nine eleven, you know, horrible disgusting day,

610
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: you know, not just for American history, but for the

611
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: history of this planet as a whole, disgusting thing happened, okay,

612
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: and we all witnessed it. But my attitude within my

613
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: own flights now has completely changed from that. Now, even

614
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: before that happened, there had always been a rumor that

615
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: it could happen one day. There's always been a four

616
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: of the back in mind that you know, somebody might

617
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: try and bring a plane down one day. I mean,

618
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: obviously it went the way it did. So I used

619
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: to always have a drink before I got on a plane. Always,

620
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: I very rarely do that. Now I need to be

621
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: in a position whereby I can see around me, and

622
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: whereby if it all goes wrong, I could be the

623
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: one that actually steps up it starts to recover the situation. Now,

624
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: I've seen a couple of incidents on planes, and not

625
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: to say in my experience it has been drunken behavior,

626
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: but it's say that one day you won't be in

627
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: a plane and it will get you know, somebody will

628
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: stand up with some real intention. Now they have changed

629
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: things up cockpits and more secure and all that sort

630
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: of thing. But you know, whenever somebody comes up of

631
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: a solution, somebody comes out of a counter solution. And

632
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: I'm sure people have looked at other ways around this

633
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: sort of stuff. So I try and get get myself

634
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: in the frame of mind whereby I am prepared. And

635
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: if I am prepared when I'm fly, then at least

636
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: in the back of my eye, my own mind, I'm

637
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: a little bit safer. And like I say, I'm looking

638
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: at what could potentially go wrong. Now. Money dictates to

639
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: me that I usually sit at the back end of

640
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: the plane. So if I can't afford to sit at

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Speaker 1: the back, that gives you a better view down the

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Speaker 1: plane as a whole. So if I had to pick

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Speaker 1: my seats on a plane, I'll pick them towards the

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Speaker 1: back end of the plane, where I can see what's

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Speaker 1: going on in front of me. I can see anything

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Speaker 1: that develops, and I can keep an eye out. I'm

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Speaker 1: certainly aware of my surroundings from the time I get

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Speaker 1: on the planet the end. As I walked through a plane,

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Speaker 1: I always try and board last, and as I walk

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Speaker 1: through the plane. I'll try and clock who's on there.

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Speaker 1: I'll try and look for any potential troublemakers before I've

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Speaker 1: even got to my seat. So I'm walking down a plane,

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking, you've had a bit too much to drink.

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Speaker 1: You'll probably fall asleep. You're not a bad guy, you

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Speaker 1: look okay, even though all that sort of stuff o case.

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Speaker 1: I'm weighing people up in my own mind. Now, I

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Speaker 1: know you can't guarantee where it's going to come from,

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Speaker 1: but sometimes you just get that prickly feeling on the

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Speaker 1: back of your neck or whatever that says yet there's

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Speaker 1: a wrong and on here. And if you don't do

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Speaker 1: it at all, then you're never gonna say that. Yees.

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Speaker 1: So if you just bundle on the plane with the

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Speaker 1: rest of the punters or try and get on their first,

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Speaker 1: you know you're not going to notice what's going on.

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Speaker 1: And this is the biggest thing I sad to people.

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Speaker 1: Be aware of your surroundings even before we get on

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Speaker 1: that plane. Behavior within the within the last queue to

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Speaker 1: get on it, is there anybody? Is anybody really nervous

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Speaker 1: about getting on there? Is anybody really sort of panicking

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Speaker 1: flapping it? You're looking around, weighing people up, looking for security.

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Speaker 1: Even though I've boarded a few planes that have had

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Speaker 1: security on them, and obviously I'm looking for who's do

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Speaker 1: I think the security details? But they could be looking

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Speaker 1: at me, looking at them thinking is he looking at

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Speaker 1: me because he wants to know why I am because

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Speaker 1: he wants to take me on? Think at all these permittations.

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Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is being aware of you surroundings.

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Speaker 1: Like to say, I always try to be the last

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Speaker 1: person on the planes. If I'm sat down the back

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Speaker 1: and I walk into the plane having to look around

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Speaker 1: when I sit down, I'm alert. And what you can't

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Speaker 1: sort of patrol around your whole life. You have to realistic.

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Speaker 1: But certainly, if I hear a disturbance, pump headphones are

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Speaker 1: straight off, I'm I'm gonna look what is going on?

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Speaker 1: And then really, if you do ever get a disturbance

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Speaker 1: on the plane, Now I can't teach you what to do,

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Speaker 1: I how to react. All I have to state here

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Speaker 1: is you know you've got to utilize what is around

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Speaker 1: you at the time to try and quell whatever activity

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Speaker 1: is going on. But I can tell you now for

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Speaker 1: a fact, I'm not just gonna stand there and let

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Speaker 1: somebody pull my plane out the sky. I'm not just

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Speaker 1: gonna let somebody start kicking down that cockpit door and

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Speaker 1: not do anything about it. What's to have myself? Okay?

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Speaker 1: And as you know, there's various bits of equipment and

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Speaker 1: stuff being brought on a plane all the time, trolleys

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Speaker 1: and the like, you know, heavy pieces of equipment which

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Speaker 1: you could potentially defend yourself with. I'm not gonna I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to go right into the details of it now,

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Speaker 1: but I remember, you know, years ago I did through

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Speaker 1: a study on a British Airways planning to say how

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Speaker 1: many things I could turn into the lethal objects. And

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you now, if I told you, you'd be

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Speaker 1: shocked how many things I found on an empty plane,

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Speaker 1: let alone. When you're talking people who've got handbags. Now

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Speaker 1: people have got laptop cases, computer bags, There's that and

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Speaker 1: the other. I've never been stopped getting on a plane

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Speaker 1: with a caribbean or on my bag, as I've never

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Speaker 1: been stopped getting on a plane carrying a torch in

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Speaker 1: my bag either, these sorts of things. Think about it,

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Speaker 1: Think about what you know, Think about how you've learned

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Speaker 1: your life you know, I've always got a first aid

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Speaker 1: kit in my back. I've always got some trauma stuff

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Speaker 1: in my back. This is my d C. I'm e

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Speaker 1: d C thinking around carrying on what I can can

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Speaker 1: and can't carry on a plane. My e d C

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Speaker 1: on a plane includes a tornic cat. It's not illegal,

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Speaker 1: it can be carried. But if somebody does get gashed

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Speaker 1: up on a plane, like you say, a bleed out

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Speaker 1: can occur in very very minutes few Okay, So you

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Speaker 1: need to be applying pressure, you know, and doing stuff

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Speaker 1: that you've been taught at a very early hour, identifying

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Speaker 1: who the doctors are on the plane, and sorting stuff out.

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Speaker 1: Because forty thous and feet there's not a plane on

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Speaker 1: this planet unless it falls can get to the ground

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Speaker 1: in four minutes. You're dead before that plane. It's the

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Speaker 1: ground anyway, all right. So what I'm saying is work

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Speaker 1: out what you can, what you can't carry, what's the

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Speaker 1: use to here. What you can't have in your hand

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Speaker 1: glove is what you can't have an your hand luggage,

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Speaker 1: and what you really want and what the threat is

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Speaker 1: likely to be. That's the way I'm thinking your awareness

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Speaker 1: around your own travel should be at a hepe where

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Speaker 1: you're taken on board what other people are doing around

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Speaker 1: you all the time. All Right, I can't stress it

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Speaker 1: enough how important it is. Okay, not going to go

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Speaker 1: massively and do anymore with this today that I say

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Speaker 1: Software are developing their stuff. Let's say that I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to make any now forms, but you will see

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Speaker 1: quite a bit more of me if you keep tuning

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Speaker 1: stuff around them to help them in their everyday life

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Speaker 1: with their everyday carries. Okay, brilliant stuff. I will see

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Speaker 1: you all again very soon. This is my last show

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Speaker 1: for this month, but next month, believe you me, you're

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Speaker 1: going to see quite a bit of me. So until then,

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Speaker 1: until next time, who Dares Wins And I'll see you

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Speaker 1: all later on us Them Listening to self red Radio.

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